Time Nick Message 00:15 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default: New obsidian brick texture. Add river water textures 1340e2b94 http://git.io/vkDFt (152015-06-02T01:13:34+01:00) 02:14 jordan4ibanez I think I just discovered something golden 02:35 jordan4ibanez Wow 02:35 jordan4ibanez Video incoming 03:12 jordan4ibanez This is the experiment I'm doing; water physics https://youtu.be/sZVrVdHMO2s 03:16 bobomb lua question: if I do "meta = minetest.get_meta(pos) 03:17 bobomb then pass meta to a function, and use meta's method's in the function, will it alter the metadata for the node it came from? 03:18 VanessaE it should 03:19 VanessaE meta is mostly position-dependent, not so much source 03:19 VanessaE so as long as you pass the meta around properly, and you set_meta() to the same position as before, it should be fine 03:21 bobomb what if i want the opposite behavior. I want to serialize the meta properties, then unserialize them and apply them to a new position 03:22 VanessaE that's a good question. I've never tried serializing metadata right-out. 03:25 bobomb oh wait, what's this, you ever use the meta:to_table, meta:from_table -- you know what those do? 03:26 VanessaE nope, but I'll guess they're exactly what you want 03:26 VanessaE meta:to_table --> serialize that 03:58 kaeza_ In fact, the nodemeta object is a Lua userdata object (more or less a void pointer) 03:59 kaeza_ Aaaaanyway... 04:12 bobomb so if i do type(minetest.get_meta(pos)) what would it be? NodeMetaRef ? 04:30 technomancy does type distinguish between different userdata types? 04:56 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Nicer time setting logging 13b8a8be9 http://git.io/vkyME (152015-06-02T06:49:05+02:00) 05:11 jordan4ibanez Woooooooooooo 05:11 jordan4ibanez Finally made an entity in water flow correctly 05:11 est31 nice :) 05:12 jordan4ibanez Now I can make it so items flow through water 05:12 jordan4ibanez And thanks! 06:32 kaeza_ bobomb, prolly "userdata", nut not sure 06:32 kaeza_ but* 06:33 kaeza_ ohai j4i 06:38 jordan4ibanez Hello kaeza_ 06:38 jordan4ibanez Also goodnight :P 07:10 kahrl uggghhh, 13 spam topics in general discussion 07:10 kahrl s/13/9 07:11 kahrl we desperately need some better captcha 07:11 VanessaE we have no captcha at all have we? 07:12 Darcidride +1, a captcha with letters/number/calculs isn't the solution, bot read it better than humans 07:12 kahrl there seems to be one 07:12 VanessaE hm 07:13 VanessaE someone (maybe Calinou?) suggested adding a blacklist of words, I figure that plus 1-2 weeks required before anything resembling a URL can be posted, would do. 07:13 VanessaE (said blacklist wouldn't apply after that 1-2 weeks) 07:14 kahrl could be worth a try 07:14 VanessaE and switch to recaptcha 07:14 VanessaE inb4 google hate 07:15 kahrl google already has way too much data about everyone, no need to feed it even more 07:15 CWz stopforumspam could work 07:15 VanessaE well considering there's zero personal info in a capthca, I don't see a problem there 07:15 Darcidride a blacklist words isn't a good solution(can open other problems...) in my point of view, a "special" captcha is a better solution 07:15 CWz or that oddly named Akismt 07:15 CWz or something like that 07:16 VanessaE https://akismet.com/ 07:16 kahrl VanessaE: the info that someone is interested in block sandbox games is worth gold to advertisers 07:16 VanessaE hm 07:16 VanessaE perhaps 07:16 VanessaE no way to anonymize the feed? 07:16 CWz not gold, diamonds 07:16 VanessaE CWz: MESE. :P 07:16 kahrl :) 07:17 Darcidride oh, i know Akismet, it can be a good beginning 07:17 VanessaE looks to be rather limited though for the free side of things. 07:18 VanessaE (though for minetest forums, looks to be enough) 07:19 CWz there is also this: http://www.stopforumspam.com/ 07:20 CWz used it in the past it is pretty good. if setup correctly 07:22 * VanessaE kills some spam... 07:23 Calinou we should not rely on external services 07:23 Calinou let's just add a honeypot to registration form 07:24 _Raiz Is there any texture packs that look similar to MC? 07:24 VanessaE how would that work? 07:24 Darcidride a honeypot is a solution, but just add a homemade captcha is a good beginning, without letters/numbers/calculs 07:24 _Raiz The default is terrible. 07:24 VanessaE _Raiz: there are, but "too similar" and you run into copyright problems 07:24 _Raiz Oh. 07:25 _Raiz A free one? 07:25 CWz we need more moderator. 07:25 _Raiz Yo Calinou! 07:25 Darcidride _Raiz, try the "Spamyak's Faithful Remix texture" pack 07:27 _Raiz Darcidride, Is that's copyrighted?, and what license they use? 07:27 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10111 07:27 _Raiz Wait, that's for minecraft O.o 07:28 Darcidride from the forum : License: WTFPL for any textures created by me, any other textures subject to Vattic's licensing restrictions 07:28 VanessaE no, it's for minetest too 07:28 Darcidride read here : https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10111&hilit=Faithful+Remix+texture 07:28 VanessaE Darcidride: ninja'd :) 07:29 CWz NinjaTron 07:29 CWz soon the spambots will flock over in numbers and will make up 90% of the posts on the forum 07:30 Darcidride @_Raiz It's not finished, but you can also use the Mineclone texture pack by devadevils, here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=11467&hilit=mineclone (licence LGPL v2.1) 07:32 _Raiz And BTW why minetest requires more lighting/torches? 07:32 CWz SO much skincare ads 07:32 VanessaE CWz: already killed 07:32 VanessaE _Raiz: just because the light doesn't propagate as far 07:32 VanessaE but that will be fixed some day 07:34 est31 haha 07:34 est31 it will break almost all buildings 07:34 VanessaE how so? 07:35 est31 ok its just lights 07:35 est31 still, many users will be against I guess 07:37 VanessaE still needs done 07:38 est31 yea 07:38 hmmmm does minetest need more lights than minecraft? 07:38 hmmmm can somebody show a comparison screenshot of our torch vs their torch? 07:38 _Raiz Yeah. 07:38 _Raiz hmmmm, Just play the game and you'll know what i mean. 07:39 VanessaE _Raiz: hmmmm doesn't play :P 07:39 VanessaE that said, _Raiz is not the first to say this 07:42 hmmmm :| 07:42 hmmmm a new lighting system is something i desperately want 07:42 hmmmm but it's so experimental and we have more urgent matters too 07:42 hmmmm i have a rough idea of how it should be done 07:42 CWz i can do torch vs minecraft torch 07:43 VanessaE CWz: please do? 07:43 VanessaE (I'd like to see as well) 07:43 hmmmm maybe i should start working on experimental things one day per week 07:47 hmmmm alright so how about this 07:47 hmmmm actually nevermind, i forgot, this is the open source world where you can't force people to do certain things at certain times 07:48 hmmmm if it were up to me, mondays we'd work on getting pull requests merged, and then fridays we'd work only on experimental features 07:48 hmmmm minetest is supposed to be fun, not a job, doh 07:48 _Raiz "Spamyak's Faithful Remix texture" should be the default mintest texture pack. 07:49 est31 minetest is more than a cheap copy of minecraft 07:50 hmmmm we have a lot of super part time developers who have a sudden burst of productivity and then fall off the face of the earth 07:50 hmmmm i wonder where minetest would be if everybody worked on it full time, 5 days a week 07:51 VanessaE as I told RBA earlier today, we need 50 more of him :) 07:54 hmmmm i'm gonna put the biome thing on hold for a while and work on client side modding 07:54 paramat our torches are light level 13, perhaps they should be max 14 07:54 VanessaE paramat: no, they're bright enough 07:54 hmmmm and hopefully get the framework there 07:54 paramat the new meselamps are 14 07:54 VanessaE they just don't extend far enough 07:54 hmmmm then other people can fill in the gaps 07:55 VanessaE hell the oil lamp in my closet probably has a longer range :P 07:55 paramat yeah torches are okay being slightly dimmer than max 07:55 _Raiz In what programming language minetest written? 07:56 VanessaE _Raiz: C++ for the engine 07:56 VanessaE Lua for the content 07:59 CWz http://s23.postimg.org/e1daqff97/screenshot_20150602_104537.png minetest 07:59 CWz http://s17.postimg.org/jah3qahjj/2015_06_02_10_55_36.png minecraft 07:59 _Raiz Lulz, and it runs faster than minecraft (which is Java) 08:00 VanessaE CWz: interesting. that implies exactly the opposite of _Raiz's contention 08:00 VanessaE so maybe it's that light extends far enough but doesn't multiply ? 08:01 _Raiz VanessaE, @ the caves it's soo dark in minetest. 08:01 _Raiz But in minecraft i can mine without torches sometimes... 08:02 paramat ah perhaps our dark is darker, i like that 08:04 thetafkguy hey im in the lord of the test server and need interact 08:04 thetafkguy the lotr server...am i in the right channel? 08:05 _Raiz Keep your heads up, i'll host a MT server! 08:05 _Raiz Soon! 08:05 thetafkguy which soon? 08:06 Calinou _Raiz, change your display gamma 08:06 Calinou display_gamma = 1.0 08:06 Calinou in minetest.conf 08:06 thetafkguy soon as in this...decade? 08:06 est31 wow minecraft really demands 10 € per month for their hosted servers 08:06 _Raiz Ok. 08:06 Calinou thetafkguy, you don't ask here, you ask on the forum topic 08:06 thetafkguy sorry i was just waiting 08:07 thetafkguy for interact on lotr server because theres a lotr admin on here.... 08:07 _Raiz est31, No, i will host it on a free VPS provided by a friend... 08:07 est31 _Raiz, no it was a comment about minecraft, not mine*test* 08:07 _Raiz Oh. 08:10 _Raiz Calinou, What next? 08:10 _Raiz gamma is set to 1.0 08:10 thetafkguy is oldcoder, lott, catninja or chanserv going to respond? ;-; 08:11 Calinou if you want to make everything brighter and you use shaders, you can edit shader code 08:11 _Raiz Maybe gamma 1.5 is better :P 08:11 rubenwardy Why would ChanServ respond? It's a bot 08:11 Calinou _Raiz, lower is brighter 08:11 Calinou higher is darker 08:11 _Raiz Oh. 08:11 rubenwardy thetafkguy, you should ask on the server's thread 08:11 thetafkguy idk it shows it in the /irc_names command 08:12 thetafkguy it says to ask here 08:12 rubenwardy Are you sure it's freenode? 08:17 OldCoder hi 08:17 OldCoder thetafkguy, what is up? 08:17 OldCoder The server thread is Inchra, not here 08:18 OldCoder Inchra #minetest-lott 08:20 thetafkguy oh well it does say in the /welcome help section to talk to you in te irc implicitly at elast 08:20 thetafkguy regardless, i do need interact 08:20 thetafkguy on the lotr server 08:22 rubenwardy Inchra is another IRC server 08:23 thetafkguy ... 08:25 VanessaE ThatGraemeGuy: try this link: webchat.digitalaudioconcepts.com/#minetest-lott 08:28 CWz #wronguser 08:28 VanessaE fek 08:28 VanessaE thetafkguy: ^^^^^ 08:29 thetafkguy i got it ty 08:29 thetafkguy not interact but i got to the irc 08:32 CWz i made mod with build privs. but it kaput 08:38 * ThatGraemeGuy blinks 09:08 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Leave the Office Earlier Day! 😃 09:59 Calinou leave the LibreOffice earlier day* 10:05 Megaf_ JamesTait: Im not going to the office today, sick a heck 10:05 JamesTait Megaf_, in that case, happy Rocky Road Day! 😉 10:19 Tekken happy overtime day 10:19 Tekken amirite? 11:59 est31 stupid linux drivers why do you leak memory at exit? /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/r600_dri.so 12:00 LNJ Hi 12:03 Ivcho hello ! I have Manjaro Linux . When I run Minetest all keys from the keyboard are messed up . Can't walk with W , A , S , D nor anything. Neither in any other game . Tried rebinding Forward to W but still does not work 12:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix uninitialized variable error 13ba3ff5e http://git.io/vk90e (152015-06-02T13:55:02+02:00) 13:14 rjs232323 hi guys, I'm back online! 13:14 rjs232323 now, back to troubleshooting meta:get_string issue 13:32 Jack_ Hello everyone. I'm getting a "Access denied. Reason: Name contains unallowed characters." error message. Any help? 13:34 zetok isn't that error self-explanatory? 13:34 Jack_ Not much. I don't have a "Name" in the game 13:36 Jack_ Is it that I must create an account? 16:36 Yellowberry Hey! 16:43 rubenwardy New description for homepage of minetest.net: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/4619a74d168f022697b3 16:43 rubenwardy (Reviews please) 16:44 Yellowberry Looks good, rubenwardy 16:44 rubenwardy The clumsiness of "All the content in the game comes from mods" worries me, I don't want to imply that the game is blank by default 16:45 H-H-H you have also explained that the gamwes are a set of mods 16:45 rubenwardy " basic foundation set of mods" 16:45 H-H-H games* 16:45 Yellowberry You could say something like "All of the content in the game is a mod, meaning that you can change it however you wish" 16:45 Yellowberry or something like that 16:46 H-H-H i think its a nice short and explanatory text :) 16:46 Yellowberry rubenwardy: but remember, the next paragraph explains it 16:46 Yellowberry so i don't think its anything to be worried about 16:47 rubenwardy People are lazy. They usually only read the second line 16:47 rubenwardy [citation needed] 16:47 rubenwardy meh 16:47 H-H-H hmm does minetest ship with minetest_game now last time i d/l it was seperate repos 16:47 rubenwardy People won't read large blocks of text, anyway 16:47 rubenwardy Minetest does in packages 16:48 rubenwardy ie: downloads from downloads/ and package stores 16:48 H-H-H ahh ok i always d/l source from github :) 17:19 Krock meow 17:19 Yellowberry woof 17:20 * Krock hides 17:20 * sfan5 meows at Krock 17:21 * Krock taps sfan5 17:24 * Yellowberry slaps Krock around with an oversized trout 17:24 * Krock catches the trout and eats it >-++++°> 17:25 Yellowberry You ate my fish! 17:25 Yellowberry How dare you! 17:26 Krock >:) 17:29 Halamix2 Yellowberry: here, for you ><(((('> 17:29 Yellowberry Thanks Halamix2 17:29 Halamix2 Don't worry it's alive as you can see ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> 17:29 Yellowberry :D 17:48 kaeza_ Afternoons 18:14 Yellowberry Evenings 18:27 Yellowberry IRC isn't active enough for me 18:28 Calinou 4chan is, then 18:28 rom1504 if you get more chan, irc is active enough 18:28 Calinou 8chan is even more active, indeed 18:28 rom1504 :D 18:30 Yellowberry 8chan is? 18:30 Yellowberry The last time I checked 8chan it was quite dull 18:30 nolsen How to generate a v3 world through commandline? 18:31 Yellowberry I should totally write a HNI viewer for Minetest 18:32 Calinou a SourceForge viewer 18:32 Calinou puts ads in your world 18:33 Yellowberry haha 18:49 hoodedice =O 18:52 Krock LOL. sourceforge viewer... 18:56 LedInfrared 8chan is a bit slower then 4chan 19:03 LedInfrared I found that the posts on 8chan tend to be a bit better though 19:05 LedInfrared there still is usual shitposting though, can't avoid that. :P 19:06 LedInfrared I like how they have webms with sound 19:07 est31 (usually called "video") 19:08 LedInfrared 4chan doesn't have sound with webms 19:22 jordan4ibanez Wow now these boat things float really nicely 19:28 bobomb arrg formspecs. there are few examples of full formspec implementations... all the docs just show individual elements 19:30 Amaz bobomb, I suggest looking at this: http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/chapters/formspecs.html 19:30 Amaz It helped me out a lot! 19:38 melvin birdy creeper? 19:39 bobomb is the format for the formspec different between using show_formspec vs setting the meta string "formspec" it seems to be 19:42 bobomb here is the sample from rubenwardy: "field[1,1.5;3,1;name;Name;]" here is the code from sign_wall: "field[text;;${text}]") 19:43 bobomb and the wiki says it's a table: {"field", x=, y=, w=, h=, name="", label="