Time Nick Message 00:00 Kenney http://puu.sh/i7Mvi/e20432d78f.png hard to believe this is still Minetest lol 00:00 rjs232323 OO 00:09 Creeper hi 00:10 rjs232323 hello 00:12 rjs232323 is it possible to attach custom property to a node? 00:12 rjs232323 Would that introduce server mod compability I wonder 00:12 rjs232323 incomplability* 00:12 VanessaE yes, you can do that 00:12 VanessaE either on a global basis (an ordinary table entry) or on a per-position basis (metadata) 00:13 rjs232323 ok 00:13 rjs232323 ah. 00:13 jordan4ibanez Hi Creeper 00:13 rjs232323 I see. Ok. 00:13 Creeper hi jordan 00:13 rjs232323 I'm making a block that acts like water mill that functions when there is water flow block under it just for fun 00:14 Kenney awesome! 00:15 VanessaE just FYI mesecons and technic have blocks like that 00:16 VanessaE might want to look at those for tips 00:17 rjs232323 ok 00:19 rjs232323 curious, have you made any mod too? 00:19 VanessaE hehe. have I made any mods. :D 00:19 rjs232323 Tell me! 00:19 VanessaE Homedecor is my main one 00:19 rjs232323 ^^ 00:19 rjs232323 ooh 00:20 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE?tab=repositories 00:24 rjs232323 OO, you have so many sub projects 00:25 VanessaE mmhmm 00:26 rjs232323 impressive 00:28 Kenney http://puu.sh/i7O2o/d9b41da355.jpg 00:28 Kenney added coins, hazards 00:28 exio4 have you seen/watch `kung fury`? 00:29 exio4 Kenney: that looks like a sega game with cuter graphics 00:29 Kenney hah yeah 00:29 exio4 (if the camera was fixed.. that's it) 00:30 Kenney here's what it looks like when riding a UFO; http://puu.sh/i7Oa7/e86e52d065.jpg 00:35 rjs232323 does flowing water have direction listed in itemstack ? West/north/south/easT? 00:35 VanessaE no 00:35 rjs232323 ouch, I see ok 00:40 jordan4ibanez So why doesn't this change the stack? 00:40 jordan4ibanez stack:take_item(1) 00:40 VanessaE because you have to return the itemstack also. 00:41 VanessaE itemstack:takeitem() ; return itemstack 00:41 VanessaE bbl 01:07 notsfan5 is there a reason to use t * t * t * instead of the pow() function here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/noise.h#L248 01:12 jordan4ibanez Trying to change a chest's list 01:12 jordan4ibanez local meta2 = minetest.get_meta({x=pos.x,y=pos.y-1,z=pos.z}); 01:12 jordan4ibanez local inv2 = meta2:get_inventory() 01:12 jordan4ibanez inv2:add_item("main", stack) 01:12 jordan4ibanez This does not work, I'm not sure why 01:18 rjs232323 notsfan, I think they do that instead of calling pow for performance reason. IT skips the overhead cost, thats only reason I can think of 01:36 ajaypay hey v 01:37 ajaypay hey all 01:37 dakota_gaming ~rainbow ProXavi 01:37 ShadowBot dakota_gaming: 05P04r07o08X09a03v11i 01:37 dakota_gaming hai 01:39 bobomb just made a mod if anyone likes weird things check it out: github.com/bobombolo/automata 01:46 ajaypay hey im back 01:48 ajaypay can bees mod be added to trepca? 01:48 ajaypay ? 01:50 ajaypay because the bees are preety bad there 01:51 * ajaypay is trying to be paitent 01:54 ajaypay so whats smeltin? 01:54 ajaypay mese? ;) 02:06 ajaypay yo tab 02:07 Wayward_Tab Ahoy thar, matey! 02:09 ajaypay hey :D 02:09 ajaypay how r u ? 02:10 ajaypay 02:10 Wayward_Tab I'm good, thanks. And you? 02:10 ajaypay srry 02:11 ajaypay oh 02:11 ajaypay im doin well 02:11 Wayward_Tab That's good :) 02:12 ajaypay yep ') 02:12 ajaypay .') 02:12 jordan4ibanez So how do I make changes to a chest inventory 02:13 jordan4ibanez I have inv2:add_item("main", stack) 02:13 jordan4ibanez But it's not making it write 02:13 ajaypay u playin mt? 02:33 AndroidKris Can I use a filter/injector with a mv furnace? 02:40 jordan4ibanez Whoops 02:40 jordan4ibanez http://i.imgur.com/CVlOSDG.png 03:02 rjs232323 mv furnace? 03:03 rjs232323 what mod are you using? 03:22 VanessaE rjs232323: that's from technic 03:22 VanessaE and I believe the answer is yes, but it's side-dependent 03:26 rjs232323 I see 03:27 rjs232323 welcome back vanessa :D 03:27 VanessaE hi 03:27 rjs232323 I beleive I may have another question for ya 03:27 rjs232323 am playing with node box editor, I dont suppose I can make a block that are 2 block height (but only take up 1 block height) 03:28 VanessaE yes, you can 03:28 rjs232323 I'm making a animation where it spins under a block 03:28 VanessaE but it's not recommended with nodeboxes 03:28 VanessaE use a meshnode instead 03:28 rjs232323 oh 03:28 VanessaE (Blender is your tool of choice there) 03:28 rjs232323 mesh node 03:28 rjs232323 interesting 03:28 rjs232323 ok 03:28 rjs232323 may I ask why? 03:28 rjs232323 performance issue? 03:28 VanessaE because textures always tile/repeat past the first meter of node space 03:28 VanessaE at least on nodeboxes they do 03:28 VanessaE on meshes, it's totally free-form 03:28 rjs232323 ah 03:29 rjs232323 then I need to do mesh node! 03:29 sofar plus you can animate mesh nodes 03:29 VanessaE any reasonable size, any reasonable texture layout 03:29 VanessaE you can animate the textures on nodeboxes too but that's useless in this case. 03:29 rjs232323 *goes to install blender* 03:30 rjs232323 Btw, vanessa 03:30 rjs232323 do you recall our earlier converstation about the flowing water direction? 03:30 VanessaE yes 03:30 rjs232323 I found out by accident 03:30 rjs232323 that there is a way to determine their facing direction 03:30 VanessaE sure, look for other water nodes nearby :) 03:30 rjs232323 and their flowing height 03:30 VanessaE flow height is param2 I think 03:31 rjs232323 yes! 03:31 rjs232323 flow height is param2, and direction facing is param 1 03:31 VanessaE it is?? 03:31 rjs232323 yes! 03:31 VanessaE O_o 03:31 VanessaE huh. didn't know that 03:31 rjs232323 thats why I'm spilling it now! 03:31 rjs232323 I Want to make animation work with that 03:31 VanessaE doesn't sound right though, param1 is supposed to be for light calculations 03:32 * VanessaE shrugs 03:32 VanessaE as long as it works :) 03:32 rjs232323 let me play around with it 03:32 rjs232323 just to be safe 03:33 rjs232323 correction: 03:33 rjs232323 param 2 is direction of flowing water, param1 is strength of water (the height of it) 03:33 rjs232323 I had it backward 03:34 VanessaE hm. been too long since I futzed around with liquids. 03:34 rjs232323 :P 03:37 rjs232323 Ok, apparently, I revisited it to double check the flowing water direction 03:38 rjs232323 I'm wrong >>, back to drawing board 03:39 VanessaE well I'm pretty sure you can read param2 for the water height 03:41 rjs232323 yes 03:51 jordan4ibanez I have good news 03:52 VanessaE ? 03:52 jordan4ibanez http://imgur.com/a/UPmNA 03:53 VanessaE what IS it? 03:53 jordan4ibanez Hoppers 03:53 VanessaE ah 03:53 VanessaE why not use a mesh node for the top part? 03:54 jordan4ibanez I like using the nodebox 03:56 VanessaE ok. 03:56 VanessaE a mesh would be a better choice here though. fewer faces 04:01 rjs232323 Question, since its my first time playing with mesh node 04:01 rjs232323 does it matter how I export it? 04:02 VanessaE rjs232323: not really 04:02 rjs232323 ok 04:02 VanessaE just export it as .obj and make sure it was sized righjt 04:02 VanessaE right* 04:02 rjs232323 using scale 04:02 rjs232323 ok 04:02 VanessaE one blender unit == one minetest cube 04:02 rjs232323 ok 04:02 VanessaE don't adjust the scale at export time 04:03 VanessaE rather, just size the model right as you make it 04:03 rjs232323 so just leave it as it is 04:03 rjs232323 ah 04:03 rjs232323 ok 04:03 rjs232323 when you say one blender unit, you're refering to a grid inside blender 04:03 VanessaE sorta 04:03 VanessaE here, I made this mod as sort of a tutorial: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10428 04:03 rjs232323 ah, what is your definition of one blender unit 04:03 rjs232323 oh 04:04 VanessaE the original .blends should be in there 04:04 rjs232323 you made that just for me! 04:04 VanessaE it also has examples that show you some VERY basic UV mapping 04:04 rjs232323 dandy! 04:04 VanessaE these models are exactly sized to fit one Minetest node 04:04 VanessaE (or two, in a couple of cases) 04:05 VanessaE one "blender unit" means the measurements blender uses in a model. hard to describe them exactly, but -0.5 in blender coordinates is one edge of a minetest cube, +0.5 is the other edge 04:05 rjs232323 Ah! 04:05 rjs232323 gotcha 04:06 rjs232323 totally makes sense 04:06 VanessaE the "back" side of a model in blender, i.e. Ctrl-keypad-1, is the front of a minetest node 04:07 VanessaE and thus, right and left are swapped. 04:07 VanessaE (or suffice to say, the whole thing's turned around :P ) 04:09 rjs232323 *plays with Vanessae's toys* 04:10 VanessaE hehe 04:25 rjs232323 can I animate some part of the mesh node using blender or is that something I need to try animate using inside minetest? 04:27 VanessaE no 04:27 VanessaE only entities can be animated 04:27 VanessaE nodes can't (meshes or otherwise) 04:27 VanessaE but you can at least animate the textures 04:29 rjs232323 I see, ok. To animate the texture, this is done in blender or Lua has to do that? 04:29 VanessaE partly in Lua 04:29 VanessaE the rest in the texture itself 04:29 VanessaE arrange your frames in a vertical strip, like a filmstrip 04:30 rjs232323 ok 04:30 VanessaE a few lines of Lua in your node def tells the engine how fast to animate it and what the aspect ratio is 04:30 rjs232323 gotcha 04:35 Pizza Hello? 04:35 VanessaE hi 04:35 Pizza Its boring everywhere 04:36 VanessaE so do something :) 04:36 Pizza Yeah but I have to be "pretend sleeping " 04:37 VanessaE heh 04:38 rjs232323 oh wow! it works 04:38 rjs232323 awesome 04:38 Pizza What works ? 04:38 rjs232323 Vanessae, you're a big help! 04:39 rjs232323 my very first mesh node 04:39 VanessaE :D 04:39 VanessaE cheers 04:40 Pizza :D 04:48 rjs232323 Not sure how to solve mesh node being all black 04:48 rjs232323 I must have miss something 04:49 VanessaE paramtype="light" 04:49 VanessaE add this to your node def. 04:51 rjs232323 No luck, it has to do with blender model. the block model when placed down shows al black, and my item version of that item shows all white in my inventory 04:52 rjs232323 I touch things I shouldn't have touch 04:59 VanessaE weird. did you texture it yet? 05:01 rjs232323 using doors_steel_a.png 05:01 kahrl was the black mesh node _placed_ before you added paramtype = "light"? 05:01 rjs232323 I'm redoing it 05:01 rjs232323 yes 05:01 rjs232323 before/after yes 05:01 kahrl you need to re-place it to update lighting 05:02 rjs232323 oh 05:02 rjs232323 interestin 05:02 rjs232323 now its all white! 05:02 kahrl progress :D 05:02 rjs232323 haha 05:02 rjs232323 yes! 05:04 rjs232323 ah ha! 05:04 rjs232323 i somehow deleted its UV 05:04 rjs232323 ok its all good now :D 05:38 ChuckNorris Hmmm? 05:46 melvin whos on 05:47 ChuckNorris Hello 05:47 ChuckNorris I am trying to regain my nick 05:47 ChuckNorris as Birdy 05:47 melvin oh has minetestgabo been on 05:47 ChuckNorris But apparently Someone is using my nick 05:47 melvin f it is how do i get in 05:48 ChuckNorris Um hold on 05:48 melvin and the interface looks different 05:48 ChuckNorris I am trying to regain control over my nick as Birdy 05:48 melvin k 05:48 melvin ldcoder 05:49 melvin old 05:49 ChuckNorris Oldcoder I need help 05:49 melvin its birdy 05:49 ChuckNorris Please 05:49 OldCoder Chuck Sure 05:49 OldCoder Free in a few minutes 05:50 melvin someone got he/she i forgots nick as birdy 05:50 ChuckNorris I need to gain control over my nickname . And register it 05:50 ChuckNorris It's weird 05:50 melvin ll be on minetestgabo 05:54 ChuckNorris I am soo stupid 05:54 melvin crap 05:54 melvin hy 05:55 melvin why 05:55 OldCoder Hi 05:55 OldCoder Which IRC networks? 05:55 OldCoder Freenode or Inchra? 05:55 OldCoder You are Birdy? 05:55 OldCoder How have you lost the nick? 05:55 ChuckNorris Freenode 05:55 melvin i want to know how to join minetest-gabo 05:55 ChuckNorris I registered it wrong 05:55 OldCoder At which network? 05:55 OldCoder Freenode? 05:56 ChuckNorris i used a fake email and forgot my nick 05:56 ChuckNorris Yes freenode 05:56 OldCoder Fake email is a problem 05:56 ChuckNorris Yeah ik now 05:56 melvin hhhhhuuuuuhhh 05:56 OldCoder Are you Arnaud Luqin? 05:56 ChuckNorris No. 05:56 OldCoder The nick is already registered 05:56 OldCoder You didn't have it anyway 05:56 OldCoder Do a /whois Birdy 05:56 OldCoder Review 05:57 ChuckNorris When was if registered 05:57 ChuckNorris *it 05:57 OldCoder This is what I see: 05:57 ChuckNorris Because I joined irc on February 05:57 ChuckNorris http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2015-02-08 05:57 ChuckNorris my first conversations 05:58 ChuckNorris I swear 05:58 OldCoder Copy paste is not working 05:58 OldCoder But 05:58 OldCoder try /whois Birdy yourself 05:58 OldCoder What do you see 05:58 ChuckNorris Look at the log 05:58 ChuckNorris i was Birdy 05:58 OldCoder Try it pls 05:58 ChuckNorris Okay then 05:58 OldCoder ChuckNorris, come with me to #freenode please 05:58 melvin i tried it arnaud liquin 05:59 ChuckNorris Weird ? 05:59 OldCoder ChuckNorris, come with me to #freenode please 05:59 OldCoder /join #freenode 06:11 jordan4ibanez Here's an early release of hoppers, goodnight 06:11 jordan4ibanez https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12379 06:16 melvin ahhhh 06:17 melvin pung? 06:17 melvin ping? 06:18 melvin stop spamming me 06:18 TheWild could someone lead me to the code where the calculations (ray hitting something) of the pointed thing are? 06:25 Guest20528 greetings 06:28 TheWild ok I found it. It's in game.cpp 08:15 kaeza greetings 08:17 cd2 hi 08:19 cd2 Is someone able to kick me out of minetest forums? the logout didnt work :( 08:57 ThatGraemeGuy someone remind me what exactly is a "block" in "active_block_range"? 08:58 ThatGraemeGuy i.e. how many nodes in size is that block 08:58 Calinou ThatGraemeGuy, 16³ 08:58 ThatGraemeGuy i was under the impression its 5x5x5 which would make it 25 nodes but then i see other things saying a block is 16 nodes, so I've got lost 08:59 ThatGraemeGuy oh 16^3, not just 16 nodes 08:59 ThatGraemeGuy thanks Calinou 09:03 BirdyMeows Meep? 09:03 Calinou hi 09:04 BirdyMeows :3 09:05 BirdyMeows Calinou: What have you been Doing ? 09:06 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Say Something Nice Day! 😃 09:06 BirdyMeows Aye :D 09:06 BirdyMeows It's so earlier atm for me . 09:08 BirdyMeows ....................... 09:09 BirdyMeows Everything is so quiet.... 09:09 kaeza it's 6 AM. what do you expect? 09:10 kaeza (here, at least :P) 09:10 BirdyMeows Well people like me don't care what the time is 09:10 BirdyMeows I am always awake :D 09:11 BirdyMeows It's 2 am here btw :3 09:11 BirdyMeows 2:11 to be exact . 09:12 BirdyMeows Think I am insomnia XD 09:12 BirdyMeows *have 09:13 BirdyMeows Gets lonely tbh though 09:14 * BirdyMeows might cry to sleep again . 09:15 * BirdyMeows rings doorbell ..., anyone home ? 09:16 BirdyMeows I need some sugar for my coffee ....... 09:17 * BirdyMeows sometimes spams too much .... 09:18 BirdyMeows Anyone not like spam ? 09:18 BirdyMeows Echoooooo 09:18 * BirdyMeows leaves now before called annoying 09:20 BirdyMeows Omg my life ...... 09:20 BirdyMeows I am practically taking to thin air 09:20 * BirdyMeows wants to play Charlie Charlie 09:21 * BirdyMeows goes to look for paper and pencils 09:21 BirdyMeows Anyone else want to play ? 09:22 BirdyMeows People it's fake so don't judge me 09:22 BirdyMeows Ugh 09:22 BirdyMeows Farewell then :3 09:24 kaeza !next 09:24 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 09:37 BirdyMeows ... 09:37 BirdyMeows I am am not a costumer . 09:40 Darcidride Hi everybody, please, some minetest_game devs can approve/check this PR ? https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/494#issuecomment-107233546 (thank you in advance :)) 09:41 Calinou #minetest-dev 09:56 CWz any idea why http://pastebin.com/tXEFK6bm this is working right. for some reason it still registers players as placing the nodes. also the register on dignode dignode give the player the item it digs 10:09 Pizza Im 10:10 Pizza bored 10:11 kaeza eh it's 7 AM... and must get to work at 8 :| 10:21 cd2 I cant login in minetest forums, bc after 2 secs I am logged out, does anyone know why? 11:02 Darcidride_ err... no sorry 11:25 LNJ hi 11:27 LNJ fhzdjk 11:27 Wayward_Tab Hello 11:27 JBB hi LNJ 11:28 LNJ i WAIT FOR jbb 11:28 LNJ HI 11:28 JBB bin schon da 11:28 LNJ ohh caps lock 11:28 JBB ohhaa 11:28 LNJ we are into school 11:28 LNJ we have IT now 11:30 JBB Feinde: Leute die mir mein en Computer wegnehmen wolen 11:31 LNJ xD 11:32 LNJ but you have to speak german 11:32 LNJ sry engliah 11:32 LNJ ohhh these kayboards are very shity 11:56 JBB bye 12:53 WSDguy2014 guys, i downloaded mod Nyan Cat's Heaven, i maded portal puching with stick and dosen't work, help me, here link: forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7689&hilit=heaven 12:54 WSDguy2014 Here link: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7689&hilit=heaven 12:58 Megaf WSDguy2014: That mod seems to be quite abandoned 12:58 WSDguy2014 but is reworked by Hybrid Dog 13:01 WSDguy2014 i created portal, punching a stick and nothing heppens, i will use modpack "Flight" https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11257&hilit=flight 13:01 WSDguy2014 to fly with Magic Carpet to going up, very very long to reach Nyan Cat Heaven 13:03 WSDguy2014 @Megaf Megaf, this mod Nyan Cat's Heaven is reworked by Hybrid Dog 13:04 Megaf WSDguy2014: Yep. Well, I don't know whats wrong, try revuilding your portal, perhaps you missed something. 13:04 Megaf or build it in another location 13:04 WSDguy2014 how about demostration video to build portal from nyan cat's Heaven? 13:05 WSDguy2014 *demonstration 13:06 WSDguy2014 Megaf: How about demonstration video to build portal from nyan cat's Heaven? 13:08 WSDguy2014 @Megaf How about demonstration video to build portal from nyan cat's Heaven? 13:09 Megaf what video? 13:11 WSDguy2014 Tutorial, how to build portal from "Nyan Cat's Heaven" mod 13:15 WSDguy2014 @Tutorial, how to build portal from "Nyan Cat's Heaven" mod 13:15 WSDguy2014 @Megaf Tutorial, how to build portal from "Nyan Cat's Heaven" mod 13:55 Wuzzy Hi, is there a way to make the tiny player names in multiplayer bigger? I would prefer a client-side solution. 13:57 VanessaE current minetest dev has normal-sized nametags 13:57 VanessaE I think they change with your font size setting 14:09 Wuzzy do you mean the names are equally sized than i.e. chat messages? 14:09 VanessaE yes 14:10 Kenney https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=12391 I made something 14:21 Calinou innovative 14:24 Kenney yup, got another idea I want to do next 14:25 Kenney well - two 14:25 Kenney One where players walk through a portal where they get transformed into ants where they can play a few minigames 14:25 Kenney and Minetest Kart 14:26 exio4 Minekart! :p 14:27 Kenney better name indeed, Minekart it is 14:28 Calinou Minekart sounds very close to Minecart… 14:28 Kenney Not a huge problem 14:50 Calinou https://agar-io-clone-d3vont3ch.c9.io/ 14:51 Calinou https://github.com/huytd/agar.io-clone for code 15:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Make split method static 13617a3d4 http://git.io/vkXEg (152015-06-01T17:04:21+02:00) 15:08 Amaz I think that the GMP security breaks the irc_commands mod... At least, I can't log in via irc when I've signed into the game with the latest git. 15:11 est31 btw, GMP security != lua sandboxing 15:11 est31 but yea, it might be that case 15:12 est31 Amaz, you are completely right, its broken 15:12 Amaz The server owner says that my password hash is much longer than anyone elses :P 15:12 est31 hehe, yea, it is 15:13 est31 I'll make a lua api function to check whether a password matches the one in the db 15:13 est31 and perhaps a PR to the irc_commands mod 15:14 Amaz Thanks :) 15:15 hoodedice Calinou, you have me sold on godot 15:16 hoodedice but only 26MB download -> why? 15:17 est31 In the short term, let you give yourself an old password by the admin with /setpassword 15:31 VanessaE est31: I have to wonder if he has as yet updated his IRC mods.. there was a patch added for the sandbox. 15:32 est31 yea but amaz meant my srp patch, and there its no big suprise 15:33 est31 because what I think the irc mod does is making a sha-1 hash of the sent password, and then comparing that to the database entry 15:34 est31 but in the case of srp, there is no sha-1 15:34 est31 or there is more than sha-1 15:34 VanessaE ah 15:34 VanessaE it's a good thing I haven't pulled recently :) 15:35 sfan5 hm 15:35 sfan5 using the IRC mod will defeat the whole security point of SRP 15:35 sfan5 unless you have a script that implements SRP over IRC 15:36 est31 yup 15:36 est31 thats part of the reasoning why I haven't implemented such a function yet 15:37 est31 it encourages server owners to request player's passwords outside of the srp protocol 15:38 Calinou hoodedice, the whole engine is a big executable, all resources are bundled 15:38 Calinou there is no installer 15:38 Calinou be sure to download and install export templates to export your games 15:41 hoodedice where do I get the linux builds from? 15:43 hoodedice or nvm, I'll find it out from their chan 15:43 Calinou hoodedice, build from source 15:43 Calinou it's fairly easy 15:43 Calinou you need scons (sudo apt-get install scons) 15:44 Calinou then do: scons platform=x11 inside the Godot directory once you cloned it 15:44 * marktraceur has laid about 20,000 cobblestone in the past two days 15:44 marktraceur It may be time to take a break 15:44 est31 don't forget to paste it in bold writing 15:44 est31 bash won't accept normal style 15:45 Calinou there's no preformatted marking on IRC, or a way to distinguish code 15:45 Calinou I could use a colour too 15:45 hoodedice no prebuilts? 15:45 hoodedice =( 15:45 Calinou https://godot.blob.core.windows.net/release/2015-05-21/godot_x11-1.1stable.64 15:45 Calinou https://godot.blob.core.windows.net/release/2015-05-21/godot_x11-1.1stable.32 15:45 Calinou 64-bit and 32-bit respectively 15:50 Calinou hoodedice, we have a subreddit, http://reddit.com/r/godot 16:38 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Localize inside whole misc_helpers.lua 136df6b2a http://git.io/vk1mW (152015-06-01T18:18:18+02:00) 16:55 RealBadAngel ooh, theres Jordach 16:55 hoodedice Calinou, reddit is kill (@ Jordach) 16:55 hoodedice heya RBA 16:55 RealBadAngel ive got something for ya 16:55 hoodedice ooooh *me excite* 16:57 hoodedice Jordach is playing Space Engies, RealBadAngel 16:57 hoodedice show it to me 16:57 RealBadAngel this is again bout shaders 16:57 hoodedice oooooh pls 16:57 RealBadAngel im about to make PR which will improve parallax occlusion mapping 16:57 Jordach WHAT 16:57 hoodedice ^there he is, I pulled him here =) 16:58 Jordach pics or gtfo 16:58 hoodedice RBA pls 16:58 RealBadAngel http://picpaste.com/pics/screenshot_20150601_152217-wzkAH38N.1433177870.png 16:58 RealBadAngel eat THAT :P 16:58 luizrpgluiz hi all 16:58 Jordach seems too smooth 16:58 hoodedice Hole E. Shit 16:58 RealBadAngel Jordach, up to settings 16:59 hoodedice we need work on lighting actually 16:59 hoodedice shaders look good tho RBA, another great job =) 16:59 RealBadAngel but you wont complain anymore bout that it works differently 16:59 RealBadAngel i do own now tangent space, all the methods are aviable 17:00 hoodedice so what exactly is different in this RBA? 17:00 hoodedice like, Changelog style difference 17:00 RealBadAngel previously we had faked tangent space, computed on the fly in shaders 17:00 RealBadAngel now, its real 17:01 RealBadAngel so, shaders are faster 17:01 hoodedice two questions: 1. Is this faster 17:01 RealBadAngel WAY faster 17:01 hoodedice okay, so that is solved 17:01 hoodedice 2. Is the computation offset to the GPU or is this CPU side? 17:01 RealBadAngel GPU 17:02 hoodedice yaay 17:02 RealBadAngel and lighter than before 17:02 RealBadAngel because we had to compute fake tangent space before 17:02 RealBadAngel now we dont have to 17:02 hoodedice yaay 17:02 hoodedice me excite 17:03 hoodedice RBA, can you point me to some resources (documentations) you used for this 17:03 RealBadAngel previously there was a limit, very touchy, after which textures were going mad 17:04 RealBadAngel now you can set the height (depth) of your wish 17:05 RealBadAngel that means we are compatible with all the papers around on occlusion mapping 17:06 RealBadAngel ive picked iterative parallax mapping with slope information (to avoid textures swimming) with some slight modifications of mine 17:06 RealBadAngel and it fuckin rocks the hous 17:06 RealBadAngel e 17:06 sfan5 17:06 VanessaE good, now push the code to your repo :) 17:07 RealBadAngel as usual, need to clean the mess first ;) 17:07 RealBadAngel im very messy coder ;) 17:07 RealBadAngel but this pearl is just a star 17:08 RealBadAngel perfect example on how to write minimal code and get maximal results 17:09 Calinou http://picpaste.com/pics/screenshot_20150601_152217-wzkAH38N.1433178541.png 17:09 est31 the universe is programmed using perl 17:09 Calinou woud be nice if we had a Minetest Ultra texture pack 17:09 Calinou would be a 256² pack, faithful to the originals :P 17:09 Calinou quite hard to do, but I'm sure it's possible 17:10 RealBadAngel Calinou, for that we would need very talented GFX man 17:11 RealBadAngel my textures are too 'technic' 17:17 hoodedice (request for docs were ignored) 17:18 RealBadAngel docs are not really needed 17:19 RealBadAngel just make maps using CrazyBump, gimp or InsaneBump 17:19 RealBadAngel whatever 17:19 RealBadAngel only thing you have to take care of is that height have to be in alpha channel 17:20 RealBadAngel so normal map combined with height in .a 17:20 Calinou AwesomeBump is the new thing :P 17:20 RealBadAngel but thats common 17:21 Calinou https://github.com/kmkolasinski/AwesomeBump 17:21 RealBadAngel Calinou, About heightmaps i found out that man always can do better ones 17:21 RealBadAngel we do have areas perception built in 17:22 RealBadAngel many algorithms get lost while trying to do so 17:23 RealBadAngel still, GFX is an art 17:25 Krock [off] http://imgur.com/gallery/gjYLOl2 17:27 Calinou lol 17:27 Calinou first comment has 2211 points 17:27 Krock 2212 17:37 rubenwardy I can't be bothered to do any more. Maybe another time :P http://dev.minetest.net/Modding_Book 17:40 Calinou anyone for a game of chess? 17:41 RealBadAngel Calinou, sadly i have no time today, but one day for sure 17:41 RealBadAngel i love that game 17:41 Calinou http://lichess.org/p47irHmi 17:41 Calinou first one to click plays 17:41 Calinou highlight me on IRC if I'm away 17:42 RealBadAngel its time limited? 17:42 RealBadAngel or? 17:42 Calinou yes, 10 mins per player 17:50 Yellowberry Ahoy 17:50 Calinou hi Yellowberry 17:50 Yellowberry Anything new with minetest? 17:50 Calinou long time no see 17:50 hoodedice RBA, I meant OpenGL docs 17:50 Yellowberry Yeah, indeed Calinou 17:50 Yellowberry Been busy with school and programming 17:51 Yellowberry I actually just finished my math finals 17:51 Yellowberry Hello bobomb 17:51 Calinou I have exams too… 17:51 bobomb hi 17:52 bobomb mod question: is there a way to register_abm with a list of nodes that uses a wildcard, or all nodes in a mod? instead of listing each one explicitly 17:53 Calinou okay, my opponent left, so http://lichess.org/iOaVTpTB 17:54 Krock bobomb, you can use "group:my_group" 17:56 bobomb so i can use neighbors = {group:mygroup} 17:57 bobomb or nodenames = {group:mygroup} 17:57 Krock both 17:58 bobomb how do i define or register a group? 17:59 RealBadAngel Calinou, theres time limit?? 17:59 Calinou it's automatic bobomb 17:59 Calinou RealBadAngel, yes, 10 minutes per player 17:59 Calinou (I can change it) 18:00 RealBadAngel shit, i had a visitor here, had to go away :( 18:00 Krock bobomb, it's defined in each node's definition in the table "groups" 18:02 rubenwardy If no nodes are a member of mygroup, then it just doesn't run (ABM doesn't) 18:02 rubenwardy Because there is nothing to run it on 18:03 rubenwardy Simples 18:03 rubenwardy :P 18:03 rubenwardy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl545RF6dXA 18:05 RealBadAngel anyway im back to preparing pull 18:05 RealBadAngel Calinou, we can play other day 18:05 bobomb ok so far, but when i try to do nodenames={group:mygroup} with no quotes it throws error expecting method, with quotes nothing happens. 18:05 Yellowberry hoodedwater: ha 18:05 hoodedwater related #godotengine 18:06 VanessaE Calinou: Awesomebump has got to be THE WORST user interface I've ever seen - confusing as fuck 18:06 Krock bobomb, how about nodenames = { "group:wood" } ? 18:06 Calinou heh 18:06 Calinou yeah, I agree 18:06 hoodedwater !g awesomebump 18:06 MinetestBot hoodedwater: https://github.com/kmkolasinski/AwesomeBump 18:08 Calinou hoofdecide 18:09 bobomb ok i got it, i was not doing mygroup=1 in the node def, just mygroup doesn't work, and mygroup = true threw error 18:09 bobomb well this is awesome. any warnings about registering nodes on the fly? haha 18:10 Yellowberry ha 18:10 Yellowberry people in #python are essentially calling me insane 18:10 Yellowberry looks like they don't know me 18:10 hoodedice ? 18:11 Yellowberry I am trying to make a web browser from scratch in python 18:12 hoodedice ahahahahahhaha 18:12 hoodedice GG m8 18:12 hoodedice gr8 b8 there 18:12 hoodedice okay okay, but why? 18:12 bobomb yellowberry, how about an ingame browser block for minetest 18:13 Yellowberry I hate my current browsers, they are either too slow or too clunky or they don't support shit 18:13 hoodedice pale moon on windows man 18:13 hoodedice you'll need to compile for linux 18:13 bobomb lynx 18:13 hoodedice the only thing it doesn't support are some deprecated security features 18:13 hoodedice which is a good thing 18:14 Yellowberry so it supports html5 and all that jazz? 18:14 hoodedice (but I have to switch for firefox to use my bank account) 18:14 hoodedice yes it does 18:14 hoodedice it is a firefox fork with support for some cpu features 18:14 hoodedice light on memory as well 18:14 hoodedice !g pale moon linux build 18:15 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pm4linux/ 18:15 hoodedice uh, let me get you something to read 18:15 Calinou pale moon is worthless 18:15 Yellowberry I just found the site 18:15 Yellowberry Also, it's just firecocks 18:15 hoodedice https://www.palemoon.org/sourcecode.shtml 18:15 Calinou watch your language :p 18:16 hoodedice firewhat? 18:16 Calinou hoodedice, https://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml 18:16 Yellowberry firefox under a different name, practically 18:16 hoodedice it is firefox with some really needed security overhauls and cpu features 18:16 Calinou it's 2015 and we lack a proper Firefox 18:17 Calinou IceCat is too slow and not maintained enough, and its extensions store is ugly 18:17 Calinou it's also 2015 and we lack a proper Chromium 18:17 hoodedice MPL allows for it cal, and I don't see a problem with that IMO 18:17 Calinou (one that doesn't phone home) 18:17 RealBadAngel Calinou, ive found out that makin good heightmaps is not so difficult 18:17 hoodedice as long as you do not have a rogue developer, free software should have protections from scamming 18:17 RealBadAngel i will write a guide on it 18:18 RealBadAngel effects are excellent 18:18 Calinou selling and commercial use are important freedoms, especially in developing countries 18:18 Calinou where Internet access is not as widespread 18:18 sfan5 Calinou: chromium phones home? 18:18 rjs232323 when I write a value of int to meta using set_string, it writes without any error reporting. But when I try to access its meta using get_string using {x=50,y=6, z 10}as the pos variable, it returns nil. Why? 18:18 bobomb you can compile elinks with js support http://elinks.or.cz/ 18:18 Calinou sfan5, there are tons of blog articles on this 18:18 Calinou it phones home less than Google Chrome, but still phones home 18:18 rjs232323 the position are the same (i just printed it out to test something out) 18:18 Calinou on top of that, it's not distributed as a ready-to-go binary that auto-updates 18:18 sfan5 Calinou: can i have a link? 18:19 Calinou I don't have any at hand, sorry 18:19 Yellowberry I am unfarmiliar with that expression 18:19 sfan5 on top of that, it's not distributed as a ready-to-go binary that auto-updates 18:19 sfan5 linux isn't either 18:19 sfan5 why do you use linux? 18:19 bobomb RealBadAngel, I'm interested in heightmaps 18:19 bobomb can you send me a link 18:19 sfan5 (hint: use packages managers) 18:19 est31 ^ 18:19 est31 self updating binaries are horrible windows bullshit 18:19 sfan5 ^ 18:20 est31 finally win 10 has a package manager 18:20 sfan5 it does? 18:20 bobomb RealBadAngel dp you know a mod that uses heightmaps in the mapgen? 18:20 Calinou oh, I found this btw http://chromium.woolyss.com/ 18:20 Calinou sfan5, yes, called OneGet 18:20 Calinou we had unofficial stuff like Chocolatey before 18:20 est31 sfan5, only for powershell https://github.com/OneGet/oneget 18:20 sfan5 that sounds nicwe 18:20 sfan5 -w 18:20 Calinou (Minetest is available through it) 18:20 est31 yes but outdated AFAIK 18:21 est31 yes, still 0.4.10 https://chocolatey.org/packages/minetest 18:21 Yellowberry they are also switching to branch develoopment, it appears 18:21 bobomb mod question: is there a way to list/find all nodes in the world by name or group? 18:21 sfan5 no 18:21 sfan5 doing that would take ages 18:21 est31 but inside a given area 18:21 sfan5 even in C++ 18:22 bobomb so if i create a node on the fly, then exit the game, then enter the game, the node will be unknown, so i would have to write it to a file or something 18:22 est31 bobomb, mods that need functionality like this, like the travelnet mod, use tables they serialize into extra files 18:22 bobomb and load it at -- right 18:22 bobomb thanks 18:22 est31 so when sb builds a node, it gets entered into the table 18:23 est31 you shouldn't register nodes on the fly 18:23 RealBadAngel bobomb, heightmaps im using are completely different thing than mapgen ones 18:23 RealBadAngel mine are about pixels of texture displacement 18:24 RealBadAngel it has nothing to do with mapgen 18:24 bobomb ah. ok 18:24 bobomb yeah i will find a better way to do this than registering nodes on the fly 18:24 bobomb like just using the metadata 18:25 bobomb however, i like to use worldedit //replace or //mix so i want the nodes defined 18:25 RealBadAngel bobomb, what is your area of interest? 18:25 bobomb at this time 18:25 bobomb RealBadAngel, I want a mapgen mod that loads heightmaps stored as publicly available DigitalElevationModels. 18:26 bobomb which are usually about 100mb in size per tile, and one pixel represents 30m square to 1m elevation accuracy 18:26 RealBadAngel prove me if im wrong, you want terrain to be generated based on heightmaps? 18:26 bobomb yes that's right 18:27 RealBadAngel possible but the person you should talk to is paramat or hmmm 18:27 RealBadAngel those guys do the mapgens 18:27 bobomb i know, i have. i'm working on a silly mod right now to get familiar with modding then i will take their advice 18:28 bobomb i just heard you mention heightmaps, and jumped to a conclusion 18:28 RealBadAngel even simple "plus" has many meanings 18:28 RealBadAngel im doing a bit different things than that 18:29 bobomb i gather 18:29 rjs232323 I'm stuck with the meta:get_string issue. Been trying to figure out whats wrong wtih this for hours now. Here's the logs: http://pastebin.com/qYn1WuLX 18:29 bobomb is there a way to apply an ABM to meta strings? 18:30 Yellowberry anyone know the current required minimum required specs to host a minetest server for 20 with little to no lag? 18:31 Yellowberry 20 people, that is 18:31 hoodedice IMO 4GB RAM, dual core proc 18:31 RealBadAngel rjs232323, please read technic tools code 18:31 hoodedice without a client session running 18:31 RealBadAngel theyre using meta to store any data 18:32 RealBadAngel in fact tables 18:32 Yellowberry hoodedice: how about net speed and the likes? 18:32 hoodedice net speed highly depends more on geographic location than speed IMO 18:32 luizrpgluiz hi 18:33 hoodedice no matter how fast your internets is, you are limited first by location 18:33 Yellowberry true. 18:33 hoodedice again, an IMO 18:33 Yellowberry All of the people connecting to the server are in the US 18:33 hoodedice also, I'm guessing vanilla mt_game 18:33 Yellowberry yes, vanilla 18:34 hoodedice I had a couple of people from europe and a couple from the states 18:34 RealBadAngel rjs232323, https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/tools/flashlight.lua 18:34 hoodedice the people fromt he states didn't complain 18:34 RealBadAngel its a good example 18:34 luizrpgluiz what do you think I use dynvpn on my server? 18:35 hoodedice the ones from europe got off and tried to make a minecrap server 18:35 Yellowberry well, I've got a 16GB quad core with 5gbps down and 3gbps up, 2TB of space, Arch Linux. Do you think I've got enough? 18:35 hoodedice ...show off 18:36 hoodedice get out 18:36 Yellowberry lol 18:36 Yellowberry If you want, after I get setted in, I can give you a sizable chunk of it 18:36 Yellowberry for free 18:36 hoodedice sure 18:36 Yellowberry Ok, i'll let you know 18:36 hoodedice I'll use ti to decompile apks and to compile my homework next semester 18:36 Yellowberry ha 18:37 Yellowberry so, is it enough? 18:37 Yellowberry is there anything I am missing? 18:37 Yellowberry Also, it's in Texas 18:37 hoodedice you're missing an OS that can do fancy stuff like... 18:38 Sinkidonk can anyone help me with this pieces of code http://pastebin.com/c7JPieaj I can't get post_effect_color to work the input, I get no error and I don't know how to troubleshot, the problem, it look like post_effect_color is treating the input as not existent, for the code in full view http://bit.ly/1BDAvVT an github link. 18:38 hoodedice ...play vidya 18:38 Yellowberry eh, Arch Linux is ok 18:39 hoodedice is that a xeon? 18:39 Yellowberry I don't remember off the top of my head, lemme go check 18:39 rjs232323 RealBadAngel, Am trying to do minetest.env:set_string that can store both string and int. Like here https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/supply_converter.lua 18:40 Yellowberry It is, not sure which one 18:40 rjs232323 I'm converting int to string and storing it via set_string. But accessing it from meta:get_string() with same location, it returns nill which is very odd result 18:40 RealBadAngel meta is a table 18:41 RealBadAngel treat it so 18:41 RealBadAngel better for you will be trying to understand the following code: 18:42 rjs232323 well, I'm afraid I don't understand. It's a table that acts like associative array but persists in HDD right? 18:42 Yellowberry hoodedice: ^ 18:42 hoodedice ? 18:42 Yellowberry "It is, not sure which one " 18:42 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/tools/mining_drill.lua#L241 18:42 hoodedice yeah, got that 18:42 hoodedice cool. 18:42 Yellowberry oh, ok 18:43 hoodedice currently running on a late 2006 mac mini with 1.8 GHz C2D 18:43 RealBadAngel here we read the meta (the root table) 18:43 hoodedice xubuntu, latest 18:43 RealBadAngel and then the fields in it 18:43 Yellowberry Xubuntu is good 18:43 hoodedice main laptop is a 1.9 dual core celery 6GB of RAM with windows 8.1 18:44 Krock Somehow I'm the only here sitting on a singlecore PC. 18:44 hoodedice I teamviewer into this mac book to compile/decompile stuff. It is a work mac so I can't exactly take it home 18:44 Yellowberry Well, my main PC isn't even close to that powerful 18:44 hoodedice lolwut 18:45 Yellowberry my main: Windows XP, 500GB HDD, 2GB DDR2 ram, x2 Pentiums 18:45 Yellowberry not the greatest 18:46 Krock ^ my hero 18:46 hoodedice well, I guess you have a stronk server, so you prolly don't care about the client machine 18:46 Yellowberry yeah 18:46 hoodedice but how did you get dem internets? 18:46 Yellowberry But wait! 18:46 Yellowberry Fiber 18:46 Yellowberry :D 18:46 rjs232323 Ok, so what's the purpose of minecraft_env:set_string then? 18:47 rjs232323 I'm trying to understand the system 18:47 Krock >minecraft 18:47 hoodedice ^ 18:47 Yellowberry lol 18:47 Krock dude, it's meta:set_string 18:47 hoodedice fiber? google fiber? 18:47 Krock and don't use minetest.env:, switch to minetest. or core. 18:47 Yellowberry not sure if it's google fiber, it could be 18:47 rjs232323 meta = minetest_env* 18:48 Yellowberry also 18:48 Yellowberry getting an amazing deal on it 18:48 rjs232323 oh, elaborate on that? core? 18:48 Yellowberry 20$/year 18:48 Yellowberry anyway 18:48 hoodedice ... 18:48 Yellowberry I have nice friends, that's call I can say 18:49 Yellowberry *all 18:49 hoodedice "amazing" is an understatement? 18:49 Krock rjs232323, local meta = minetest.get_meta(pos) -> meta:set_string("key", "value"), that's how it's used 18:49 hoodedice *. 18:49 hoodedice also, I doubt you have nice friends. You prolly have an uncle at comcast =P 18:49 Yellowberry LOL 18:49 Yellowberry Nah 18:49 Yellowberry it's rubenwardy! 18:50 rubenwardy It's raining, so the internet is terrible 18:50 Yellowberry Ha, i've got 10 minutes to eat lunch before I have class again, I will be back 18:50 rubenwardy No idea why it happens 18:50 hoodedice > class 18:50 hoodedice tfw yellow is a student 18:50 * Yellowberry is in 9th grade 18:50 * hoodedice flips table 18:50 hoodedice I'm done 18:51 rjs232323 Krock, I understand. I'm using meta:set_string("motus_source","13") but when I use get_string with same key, it returns nil (using same pos) 18:51 jordan4ibanez what is the hotbar inventory called? 18:51 hoodedice "top line of the inventory" 18:52 Krock rjs232323, so is meta:get_string("motus_source") returning nil?? 18:52 Krock are you sure the node you called is loaded? 18:52 hoodedice suddenly, I don't believe that yellow has all that that he says he has *skeptic* 18:53 rjs232323 yes, I'm next to it right now so I'm pretty sure its loaded. HAven't left the area yet. Here's the log :https://codeload.github.com/minetest-technic/technic/zip/master 18:53 rjs232323 It writes here: 18:53 rjs232323 writing -48 6 -12 motus_source 13 18:53 rjs232323 at that pos, with key of motus_source with the value of 13 (13.."" to make sure its a string to see if nil is coming from mistype or something) 18:54 rjs232323 but using meta:get_string("motus_source") 18:54 rjs232323 getting motus_source -48 6 -12 -- this should be 13 but its returning nil? Why? 18:55 Krock strange 18:55 rjs232323 oh wow, I think i detected an extra space there. Double checking my script 18:57 rjs232323 nvm, I dont see any extra space 18:58 rjs232323 very puzzling 19:08 Yellowberry I have returned! now running Pale Moon! 19:08 Yellowberry It seems to be slightly less laggy 19:09 hoodedice suddenly, I don't believe that yellow has all that that he says he has *skeptic* 19:10 rubenwardy Implying you don't use a desktop client O_o 19:10 rubenwardy Oh, kiwiirc's decent 19:10 rubenwardy much better than webchat 19:10 rubenwardy OHHH 19:10 rubenwardy You're at school 19:10 rubenwardy When do I get kicked? 19:11 Yellowberry Kicked from here? 19:11 hoodedice what is even 19:11 rubenwardy is 19:11 rubenwardy it 19:11 rubenwardy time 19:11 rubenwardy based? 19:11 hoodedice what are runben even i cant 19:11 rubenwardy oh, shadowbot's away 19:11 hoodedice inchranet is kill 19:11 rubenwardy R.I.P 19:12 Yellowberry And this is why you don't walk into a channel and start talking 19:12 Yellowberry Rip in kill 19:12 hoodedice yello 19:12 hoodedice need into proof that you have a 16 gb with 5gbps down 19:12 rubenwardy this makes me sad: http://a.pomf.se/gcpydp.png 19:13 hoodedice > steam reviews 19:13 Yellowberry is not up yet. I will have access in mid july 19:13 Yellowberry LOL 19:13 hoodedice [skepticing intensifies] 19:14 Yellowberry [[intensifies] intensifies] 19:14 Yellowberry also, I am as skeptic as you are, hoodedice 19:14 hoodedice about what 19:14 rubenwardy this makes me cringe: http://a.pomf.se/cyvhze.png 19:15 Yellowberry sometimes my friends are rude, putting it lightly 19:15 hoodedice send him a hello world code in C++ 19:15 rubenwardy lol 19:16 rubenwardy Saying "anyone who says banter should be shot" 19:16 Yellowberry yes 19:16 rubenwardy Anyway, gtg. I'll read the log :P 19:24 rjs232323 Could reading meta:get_String from different file receive nil instead of its value? 19:26 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/Hoppers 19:27 jordan4ibanez Can a moderator move this into mod releases? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12379 19:31 CWz builtin init.lua seems to have bene broken 19:32 est31 in which way? 19:32 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: moved~ 20:14 Yellowberry It got really silent all of a suddent 20:14 hoodedice indeed 20:15 Creeper i know 20:15 jordan4ibanez sfan5: Thank you 20:22 rjs232323 correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't minetest:get_meta(pos) return a table from that position? 20:23 rjs232323 when I write using meta:set_string(pos) on different position, it overwrites previous meta:set_string on a different pos variable somehow. I double checked the pos and the cordinates are different yet it still overwrite it like pos didn't change 20:28 rjs232323 like if i write meta:set_set("_source","5") for {x=5, y=5, z=10} then write meta:set_string( "_source","15" ) for {x=6,y=6,z=10} and then call meta:set_string("_source") from {x=5, y=5, z=10}, it returns "15" instead of "5" 20:28 rjs232323 I don't understand why it's behaving that way 20:30 Yellowberry thank god from FreeDNS 20:30 Yellowberry *for 20:42 Creeper i need help with server 20:43 BirdyMeows hmm? 20:55 TheWild rjs232323 you mean meta:get_string("_source"), didn't you? 21:03 bobomb modding: if i try to use minetest.register_node from within another function, core.get_current_modname() fails any ideas? 21:04 est31 when do you call core.get_current_modname() ? 21:05 est31 first of all you should do minetest.get_current_modname 21:06 bobomb it is called by register_node 21:06 est31 ah 21:06 est31 yea, you shouldn't call register_node when not loading 21:07 * Creeper need help hosting server 21:07 bobomb but i want to register a node on the fly 21:07 est31 that isn't possible 21:07 est31 what is your usecase 21:07 est31 Creeper, what is your question 21:07 bobomb a programmable node 21:07 Creeper i cant get the server up. 21:07 est31 programmable in which way? 21:08 Creeper at all, no firewall, port forwarded on ip and port, 21:08 bobomb i have a node with a form, if the input validates, then the node is converted to another node type, if that node type is not yet registered, it needs to become registered. 21:08 est31 Creeper, what does it say when you try to start it? can you paste the output to gist.github.com and link here? 21:08 Creeper nothing........ 21:08 bobomb i also have a file that saves nodes registered in this way to the world 21:08 Creeper says absolute nothing 21:09 bobomb and loads them at startup, that loading won't work either until i solve this. 21:09 VanessaE bobomb: the best you can do is fake those nodes with entities, since you can define their models and textures after-the-fact. 21:09 est31 Creeper, how do you start it? 21:09 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Allow more characters in file names 13https:/ http://git.io/vkDfG (152015-06-01T17:08:43-04:00) 21:09 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Localize mkdir helper 13https:/ http://git.io/vkDfZ (152015-06-01T16:53:03-04:00) 21:10 bobomb entities huh? will read 21:10 VanessaE mmhm 21:10 Creeper Server: Login, and already port forwarded 21:10 Creeper but the server still not online... 21:10 est31 Creeper, yes but how do you start the server? 21:11 Creeper i dont get it 21:11 est31 from command line? 21:11 Creeper wat do you mean...... 21:11 Creeper np 21:11 Creeper o 21:11 Creeper *NO! 21:11 est31 how then? 21:11 Creeper i use the server tab in the minetest application 21:12 est31 ok 21:12 bobomb VanessaE i think i should have done this with entities from the very start. haha 21:12 est31 so you can join yourself? 21:12 Creeper yes. nobody else 21:12 VanessaE bobomb: entities are limited in usefulness - they're buggy and cost FPS 21:12 VanessaE so use them as little as possible 21:13 bobomb oh well that sucks. i might have to use metadata then. 21:13 Creeper is there a possible way to make nyancats spawn in the sky? just asking lol 21:13 est31 Creeper, yes there is even a mod 21:14 Creeper wow, lol 21:15 Creeper how do you start the server from command line? 21:15 est31 just open it and type minetest --server 21:15 bobomb minetestserver 21:15 est31 or minetestserver 21:15 Creeper I FORGOT TO DO THAT 21:15 est31 then it will ask you for the world 21:15 Creeper i even forgot the --worldname --sever whatever thingy! 21:17 Creeper what do you right click to open the command promt? 21:17 Creeper like what minetest file... i kniow i did it once 21:18 Yellowberry You on windows? 21:18 Creeper The Windows 8 version of KittyFishy 7 21:19 Creeper basicaly, yeah 21:19 Yellowberry Oh, ok 21:19 Yellowberry so 21:20 Yellowberry hold shift and right click on an empty space in the folder with the minetest executable in it and click open command window here 21:20 Yellowberry and there you go 21:30 blaise hello... 21:30 Yellowberry Hi 21:30 blaise :D 21:30 blaise how ya doin? 21:31 Yellowberry Oh, I'm doing ok. Just doing finals 21:31 Yellowberry Nothing too special 21:31 blaise cool.. 21:31 Yellowberry https://github.com/realtinymonster/grass 21:32 Yellowberry Do you guys think I should get back into making minetest mods? 21:33 Yellowberry brb 21:33 Creeper help 21:34 blaise Creeper: sup? 21:34 blaise yellowberry wrote a web browser in python?! 21:34 blaise cheese and rice! 21:34 Creeper need to config irc mod, dont know what to put! 21:34 blaise Creeper: I've done it with no troubles, I will be more than happy to answer your questions 21:35 blaise :D 21:35 blaise Creeper: you do have an ircd running, yes? 21:35 Creeper i need to see what i ned to put in order to configure it to join irc.inchra.net on channel #creeptest port 6667... 21:36 blaise Creeper: also, last time I messed with it, the irc mod for minetest didn't support ssl irc connections 21:36 Yellowberry 6667 isn't ssl.... 21:36 blaise 6697 is 21:37 blaise I was just making a statement to my own alement with the mod, the only one in fact.. :) 21:38 blaise Creeper: aight, all settings for the irc mod are stored in your minetest.conf 21:39 Creeper ok 21:40 blaise Creeper: so "irc.server irc.inchra.net" would be the first line to add 21:40 Creeper what about the =?? 21:41 Creeper DONE 21:41 blaise ehrm.. try it.. I didn't use one 21:41 Creeper I DID CHANNEL TOO 21:41 blaise cool 21:41 blaise they added sasl support.. interesting 21:41 blaise :D 21:41 blaise too bad it's not ssl enabled yet 21:43 blaise I can't get recent mesacons mod to work with 0.4.10 or with 0.4.12 21:43 blaise lol 21:43 blaise am I not supposed to be using git? 21:45 Yellowberry Anyone know what happened to 0gb.us? 21:45 Yellowberry He died, it appears 21:45 blaise maybe he's on vacation? 21:45 Yellowberry For like 2 years? 21:45 Yellowberry I think not 21:46 Yellowberry damn, has it really been that long? 21:46 blaise true.. 21:46 Yellowberry wow 21:47 blaise maybe he was commited to a mental facility, or landed in jail/prison? 21:47 Yellowberry Possible 21:48 Yellowberry unlikely, but possible, nevertheless 21:50 Amaz "When you have ruled out the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth" 21:52 blaise ;) 21:53 Creeper need help with irc mod, init.lua fail 21:56 blaise the actual error would be helpful in helping you 21:57 kaeza_ Greetings 21:58 Yellowberry hi kaeza_ 21:58 rjs232323 Thewild, yes I did 21:58 blaise kaeza_: o/ 21:58 rjs232323 I meant to say meta:get_string("_source") 21:59 blaise Yellowberry: I can't believe you wrote a web browser in python 21:59 blaise Yellowberry: was that your school project? 22:00 Yellowberry blaise: *am writing, it's nowhere near complete, and no, I was just bored 22:00 Creeper hello??? 22:01 Yellowberry Creeper: Please provide what the error says 22:01 Creeper the debug doesnt save!!! idk why?? 22:01 blaise it's in the log file 22:01 blaise the error 22:01 Creeper what log file? 22:02 blaise the minetest server log file 22:02 Creeper huh?? 22:02 Creeper OHHHH!!! 22:02 blaise it will tell you what line of the init.lua it had a problem with 22:02 blaise we need that error to help you 22:02 Creeper wait... what? 22:03 blaise I quit 22:03 * blaise walks away and lights up a cigarette 22:03 TheWild rjs232323, could you provide a script? 22:03 * Yellowberry slaps blaise and scolds them for smoking 22:03 Creeper what file is it??? 22:04 Creeper where? 22:04 Yellowberry I believe it is called minetest.log 22:04 Yellowberry not positive 22:04 Creeper HELP 22:05 Yellowberry USING ALL CAPS ISN'T CONSTRUCTIVE 22:05 Creeper ugh!! i ned to get used to this!!!! im getting frustrated 22:05 Amaz Yellowberry, it's debug.txt 22:05 Yellowberry Oh, ok 22:05 Creeper and it doesnt save there!! 22:05 Yellowberry I haven't used minetest in a long while 22:06 Yellowberry Ahaha 22:06 Yellowberry http://ismycomputeron.com/ 22:06 blaise Creeper: it will look similar to this one.. 21:51:48: ERROR[main]: ServerError: ....minetest/mods/plantlife_modpack/plants_lib/init.lua:430: attempt to call field 'get_us_time' (a nil value) 22:07 blaise lmao 22:07 blaise gdmf 22:07 Creeper and where is the file that its in???? 22:07 Creeper hi kaeza 22:07 kaeza o/ 22:07 Yellowberry \o 22:08 Creeper wat??? 22:10 Yellowberry http://www.webvalued.com/ismycomputeron.com.html 22:10 Yellowberry wow 22:10 Yellowberry ^k 22:10 Yellowberry *6k 22:10 Yellowberry nearly 7 22:10 Creeper can skmebody help me!?!?! 22:11 Creeper UGH 22:12 kahrl ismycomputeron.com is bugged 22:12 kahrl I shut all my computers off, sent a HTTP request over IPoAC, the response still said "YES" 22:15 Creeper thats because it is one of those, 'completely pontless sites' 22:15 jordan4ibanez Hi kahrl 22:15 kahrl hi jordan4ibanez 22:17 jordan4ibanez How goes it? 22:18 kahrl pretty well, hope you are fine too 22:19 kahrl haven't had much free time lately unfortunately, not much minetest devving for me 22:20 Creeper irc mod help PLEASE 22:21 kaeza hm? 22:21 kaeza Creeper, what's your issue? 22:21 Creeper init lua.... always 22:21 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix wrong replace from previous commit 13e479337 http://git.io/vkDBM (152015-06-02T00:20:12+02:00) 22:22 kaeza if you're trying to run it on Windows, I'll just say don't bother 22:22 Creeper GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 22:23 kaeza you only need it if you plan on hosting a server anyway 22:23 Creeper thats why i need it!!! 22:24 VanessaE laggity.. 22:24 kaeza hey V 22:24 VanessaE hi 22:24 * Creeper getting mad..... 22:26 kahrl stay calm, don't explode 22:26 Creeper i need help fixingj!!! 22:26 crazyR hi all 22:29 blaise Creeper: cat debug.txt |grep ERROR 22:29 blaise the lines that show up are what we need to know to help you fix 22:29 blaise comprende? 22:29 * Creeper is upsetnow 22:29 Yellowberry blaise, Creeper on Wandews 22:29 blaise fail 22:30 Creeper wut 22:31 blaise Creeper: what's your native language? 22:31 blaise because it's apparently not english. 22:31 Creeper lolcat, used in most memes 22:31 Yellowberry ha 22:31 blaise ah, so you're just a troll.. 22:31 Creeper what 22:31 Creeper huh?? 22:31 blaise tuche 22:32 sd1001 blaise: No need for that, you can just do `grep ERROR debug.txt` 22:32 blaise sd1001: yeah, but he runs windows anyway.. so there's no fixing anything 22:32 Creeper WUT 22:32 blaise it was broke before the machine even had minetest 22:33 blaise Creeper: you want help, we need the error to help you 22:33 blaise it's that simple 22:33 Yellowberry THE POWER OF LINUX COMPELS YOU 22:34 blaise there's no point in acting like a child.. and if you are a child, you need to get your parents to help you get help.. and you probably shouldn't be on the internet unsupervised anyway 22:34 Yellowberry heh 22:34 * Creeper is 30... 22:34 * blaise facepalms 22:34 blaise so, he is a troll 22:34 blaise moving on.... 22:34 Creeper how am i a troll??? 22:35 Yellowberry Learn to speak English properly. 22:35 blaise we told you to get the error from the debug.txt in the minetest directory. 22:35 Yellowberry Or speak in your native language 22:35 blaise without that we can't help you 22:35 Yellowberry And if your native language is English, I feel bad for you 22:36 Creeper derp... debug isnt saving 22:36 blaise it's not like it saves it.. 22:36 blaise it pipes the standard output from minetest.exe to that file 22:36 blaise there's no "alt-file, save" operation going on at all 22:36 Creeper then how do i find the error! 22:37 blaise so like, if you run cmd from the run prompt and cd to the minetest directory and run minetest.exe you will see the output we're talking about which is being sent to debut.txt 22:37 Yellowberry A few simple steps 22:37 blaise it's not an option.. it does it by default.. 22:37 Yellowberry 1. Speak properly 22:37 Yellowberry 2. Look in the minetest folder for a file called debug.txt 22:37 blaise the only way to stop it is to put a setting in minetest.conf to NOT log to file 22:38 Creeper i think i heard you say that! 22:38 Yellowberry 3. Post the contents of it on pastebin 22:38 Creeper and debug has NOTHING 22:38 Yellowberry That is abnormal 22:38 blaise then you never ran minetest 22:38 Creeper i have minetest running right here! 22:38 blaise becuase even if you never start singleplayer or connect to a host it will log something 22:39 blaise it'll show the irrlich output, and a number of other things 22:39 Yellowberry Somebody message me when the trolls leave 22:39 Creeper OH! found error 22:39 blaise Irrlicht log: Irrlicht Engine version 1.8.1 22:39 blaise like that 22:41 kahrl it might not be saving if minetest wants to write debug.txt to a location where the current user doesn't have write permission 22:41 kahrl but idk, I don't use windows 22:43 Creeper no fikle irc.lua, no irc.dll, no field package.preload ['irc'] i think.... the slaches are backards? no file ...\mods\irc/irc/init.lua no fuke loadall.dll 22:43 Creeper no file! not fuke! 22:45 kahrl Creeper: copy & paste the message into a pastebin like paste.debian.net instead of typing it 22:45 Creeper i cant 22:45 kahrl ? 22:45 Creeper cant select whats in minetest engine 22:45 kaeza Creeper, did you follow the instructions in the README? 22:45 kaeza but as I already said, it doesn't currently works under Windows 22:45 kaeza -s 22:46 kaeza hurr durr engrish 22:46 est31 dont use linux 4.0 :) 22:47 Creeper yes 22:47 kaeza well, the error suggests you did not install luasocket 22:47 Creeper can you send me da link? 22:48 kaeza or rather, you didn't install LuaIRC 22:48 Creeper didnt install any 22:48 kaeza well read the README again 22:49 Creeper i have to have the program things??? 22:49 blaise kaeza: hey, you know if there is a git repo for hunger ? 22:49 blaise I can't seem to find one 22:49 kaeza blaise, it's in default IIRC 22:50 kaeza oh wait, nope... that's drowning 22:51 blaise drowning? 22:51 kaeza blaise, try https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-survival_modpack 22:51 blaise ty 22:52 kaeza yw 22:59 jordan4ibanez I think it's time to rewrite the item entity 23:01 Yellowberry Is there a demand for python-based minetest modding? 23:01 est31 python is stinking 23:02 Yellowberry What, is /perl/ better? 23:03 kaeza bf pls 23:03 Yellowberry yes, totally 23:04 blaise kaeza: wow, uhrm 23:04 blaise kaeza: how do I drink and eat?! 23:04 blaise lmao 23:04 Yellowberry lol 23:04 kaeza blaise, should support some food-based mods, including default:apple 23:04 est31 minetest has lua 23:04 est31 everything one needs 23:05 kaeza for drinking, create a drinking glass and click water 23:06 kaeza if you have homedecor installed, you can also right-click the kitchen sink cabinet 23:07 blaise but, uhrm.. 23:07 blaise lol 23:07 blaise I gotta have a furnace to make glass, and sand 23:07 blaise lol 23:08 blaise I'm gonna die! 23:10 Yellowberry OH NO! 23:10 Yellowberry blaise is gonna die! 23:11 blaise lol 23:11 blaise I'll never find my stuff 23:11 blaise crap 23:11 blaise heheh 23:11 blaise I'll bbl 23:20 * Creeper will give people lots of gems if they help make housing on offline server 23:20 VanessaE what server? 23:21 Creeper what was supposed to be online... CreeperCity Testing Server 23:21 VanessaE oh 23:21 Creeper you can download my minetest and help build.. 23:21 Creeper but i cant seem to put server online! 23:21 VanessaE well I've got about 9 servers running on my machine, so that's out :P 23:21 Creeper even though i followed the directions 23:24 Creeper idk why i cant put a single server up 23:25 VanessaE I never saw the error message, but you mentioned IRC. did you install luasocket? 23:25 Creeper no, but ill try 23:25 Yellowberry they have Luasocket for Windows? 23:25 VanessaE you need that 23:25 Creeper mayby i can actually put it up for irc 23:25 VanessaE it'll be called luasocket51 or similar. 23:25 VanessaE no idea, Yellowberry 23:25 Yellowberry Well, Creeper is on Windows 23:26 Creeper yeah 23:27 VanessaE http://files.luaforge.net/releases/luasocket/luasocket/luasocket-2.0.2/luasocket-2.0.2-lua-5.1.2-Win32-vc8.zip 23:27 VanessaE this appears to be the official release for luasocket51 windows 23:27 Creeper thanks, just got back to irc 23:27 VanessaE other links are here: http://files.luaforge.net/releases/luasocket/luasocket 23:29 Creeper now what 23:29 VanessaE ...install it? 23:29 Creeper did 23:30 VanessaE first thing you should have been doing is trying to run your server with no mods at all, then add a few, try again, repeat. 23:30 Creeper y? 23:31 VanessaE because that's the proper way to test something 23:31 VanessaE normally you don't just load it all up all at once 23:31 VanessaE it helps you spot problems in your setup 23:31 Creeper how do i make the irc mod work now...... 23:31 VanessaE no. start by getting the REST of your server running 23:32 Creeper what do you mean the rest? 23:32 VanessaE the other mods 23:32 VanessaE the basics of the servr 23:32 VanessaE ettc 23:32 VanessaE damn I can't type 23:32 Creeper all my other mods have init problems 23:33 VanessaE then start with NO mods 23:33 Creeper opk 23:33 VanessaE if the server refuses to run with a particular mod, remove it and try another mod. 23:35 Creeper i cant remove them..... 23:35 VanessaE yes you can. 23:35 Creeper unless you mean another remove 23:35 VanessaE I mean delete the mod from the "mods" or "worldmods" dir (but not from minetest_game/mods or whatever) 23:36 VanessaE move it to somewhere minetest can't find it. 23:36 Creeper ok..... 23:36 VanessaE point is to make sure minetest can't even TRY to load it 23:36 VanessaE you want to start out with a bare minetest_game and NO added mods. 23:37 Creeper my world is made of unknown nodes 23:37 VanessaE doesn't matter. 23:37 VanessaE you can restore the missing mods one at a time and the unknown nodes will become defined again 23:37 Creeper ok 23:38 Creeper i think this may take awhile 23:41 Creeper dis taking forever 23:43 VanessaE welcome to the wonderful world of server hosting. 23:44 Yellowberry Aye. 23:44 Yellowberry all aboard the hype train 23:45 Yellowberry pppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp 23:45 Yellowberry oops 23:45 Yellowberry sorry 23:49 Creeper dobeee 23:51 Creeper hello? 23:51 VanessaE hi. 23:51 Creeper done 23:52 VanessaE and? 23:52 Creeper irc still has problem 23:53 VanessaE and the problem is.......? 23:53 VanessaE we need a copy&paste of the errors from the debug window