Time Nick Message 00:00 Birdy_ Hi frogle6 :) 00:00 frogle6 hi what is up with inchra.nety? 00:00 Birdy_ Exactly what I was thinking . 00:01 frogle6 I messaged vanessa to see no repense yet 00:01 Birdy_ Same here 00:02 Birdy_ I thought I was the only one experiencing that inchra isn't working . 00:07 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Make get_biome_list() error message more helpful 13522acf9 http://git.io/vkliy (152015-05-28T20:04:50-04:00) 01:10 zat wiki.minetest.com is telling me that I am the 1,000,000th visitor and that a reward is awaiting 01:10 zat !! 01:12 zat the reward is an Apple product OMFG!!!! thanks Minetest wiki!!!!!!!! 01:13 zat the banner also states "this is not a joke", whew that's a relief. 01:13 * Ep1cMaN waves hello to everyone 01:13 VanessaE zat: heh. 01:14 zat VanessaE: fuckyea 01:14 VanessaE Y U NO RUN an adblocker? 01:17 init ;-; 01:17 init I should change my nick 01:23 zat VanessaE: for it breaks sites 01:24 VanessaE not really 01:25 zat VanessaE: I have experienced breaks 01:26 VanessaE better a few broken sites than to be plastered with ads. 01:26 zat I am not that bumb to be tricked by ads though 01:26 zat bumb... dumb lol 01:26 VanessaE ... 01:26 zat bowb 05:52 air what would cause on_receive_fields not to be called when closing a formspec? 06:41 mccomase ?msg OldCoder can you get me a fish skin for new york server 06:47 OldCoder glub glub yes 07:46 CWz OldCoder: hello 08:25 lordawe hi guys 08:25 lordawe i have an OT question, can somebody help me with VPN issue? 08:40 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Learn About Composting Day! 😃 08:43 alket yeah, happy Friday 08:45 technomancy I have a formspec that closes when I hit enter, but I'd like it to keep open 08:45 technomancy what's the trick for this? 09:28 Thron what is that config line again to save world offline?? 09:29 CWz enable_local_map_saving = true 10:15 Megaf_ Thron: hi 10:16 Megaf_ Thron: enable_local_map_saving = true 10:16 Thron Thx Megaf!! 10:17 Megaf_ You're welcome 10:36 meldrian quick, is there a command to put out all the fires at once? 10:36 rubenwardy Disable fire mod 10:36 rubenwardy Actually, 1sec 10:37 rubenwardy /set -n disable_fire true 10:37 rubenwardy No need to restart 10:38 rubenwardy And you aren't left with unknown nodes 10:39 meldrian aaaaaaaaawesoooooooome.... you saved my forest rubenwardy 12:37 OldCoder CWz, moin 12:37 * OldCoder is still asleep 12:39 Zeno` It's rare to see sleep-typers; when you do you know the person is truly dedicated to IRC 12:44 Megaf_ Zeno`: so, I'm writing a SH that will send a text to a file 12:45 Zeno` yeah ok, so echo blah > test.txt 12:46 Megaf_ cat << EOF > Test.txt 12:46 Megaf_ This is a test 12:46 Megaf_ EOF 12:46 Megaf_ this doest what I want I think 12:46 Megaf_ does* 12:46 Zeno` echo blah2 >> test.txt 12:46 Megaf_ 12:46 Megaf_ cat << EOF > Test.txt 12:46 Megaf_ Line1 12:46 Megaf_ Line2 12:46 Megaf_ Line3 12:46 Megaf_ EOF 12:47 Megaf_ got it? 12:47 Megaf_ :) 12:47 Jordach i was expecting ShadowBAOT 12:47 Zeno` lol, not really 12:47 Jordach ShadowBot even 12:47 Zeno` maybe ask in ##bash :P 12:47 Megaf_ ShadowBoat 12:48 Megaf_ Zeno`: s/##bach/#bash 12:49 Megaf_ Hi est31 12:51 Megaf_ [13:49] correct 12:51 Megaf_ [13:49] looks correct 12:51 Megaf_ [From #bash] 12:51 est31 on #bash they have a bot that validates bash input 12:51 est31 rly cool 12:53 Megaf_ I've seen it once, really cool indeed 12:54 YvesLevier Greetings 12:58 YvesLevier EOF = ^Z? 12:59 est31 not on sane operating systems 12:59 est31 so yes for dos 12:59 init in this case, EOF is just a word 12:59 est31 but unix has ^D 13:00 Zeno` why do you need to append EOF? 13:00 init he could have used cat << DOG > test.wtf 13:00 Zeno` it should be done automatically 13:00 init it was a literal 13:00 est31 ah yea 13:00 init if he used ^D he didn't need to use that 13:00 est31 for heredocs you can use what you want 13:00 Zeno` yeah ^D is probably what I'd use, but I still don't understand the purpose of this :) 13:00 init it is for scripts or similar 13:00 init help() { 13:01 Zeno` I think windows requires two ^D though 13:01 Zeno` not sure 13:01 init cat << EOF 13:01 init program : ... blablabla 13:01 YvesLevier yes 13:01 init moar blah 13:01 init EOF 13:01 YvesLevier that was i was reading back 13:01 YvesLevier sometimes i scrool (scroll?) this chat 13:01 init this `EOF` is 4not ^D/^Z, it's just an arbitrary word 13:02 Zeno` init, you're correct 13:02 init I haven't read the scrollback, sorry then :p 13:02 Zeno` which is why I am confused lol 13:02 init cat << DOG 13:02 init wat 13:02 init DOG 13:02 YvesLevier Ô i see 13:02 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Zeno- -> 03minetest/minetest: (Android) Only simulate holding down fast key if fast_move is toggled to true 13addf3ee http://git.io/vkBXD (152015-05-29T22:59:21+10:00) 13:03 Zeno` hey, that's me! 13:03 Zeno` I'd better hide 13:03 init omg you broke everything Zeno` 13:03 YvesLevier Zeno`: Plz dont 13:04 Zeno` haha 13:04 init http://www.monzy.com/intro/drama_lyrics.html 13:05 init mfw my FX is like idk, insanely faster than my netbook 13:05 init >importing hour and half of audio 13:05 init >6 seconds 13:05 init I needed 2~ minutes on my laptop 13:06 Zeno` I think I have a major problem 13:07 Zeno` either I've broken Fedora or my internet sucks (or both) :( 13:10 init Zeno`: fedora breaks itself, don't worry 13:10 Zeno` phew 13:10 * Zeno` feels very relieved now 13:12 init amazing, audacity's noise removal is pretty good 13:43 Gael-de-Sailly Hi 13:43 Gael-de-Sailly What happens to inchranet ? 13:44 est31 wow, the dns expired?? 13:45 Gael-de-Sailly http://osiris.inchra.net/ : is it normal ? 13:46 est31 just connect to the ip addresses instead 13:46 Gael-de-Sailly er… yes but which IP ? 13:49 est31 176.9.29.178 13:50 Gael-de-Sailly Thank you 13:51 rubenwardy lol 13:56 technomancy is there any kind of convention or common patterns around the use of communicating over digilines? 13:57 technomancy or even some kind of listing of nodes/mods that use it? 14:36 est31 can somebody host a server that would otherwise go offline? 14:39 VanessaE est31: what server? 14:39 est31 trepca 14:40 est31 forum here (only established to have communication medium when the server goes down): https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=12245 14:40 est31 map here: http://alket.mooo.com/map 14:41 catninja If I would want the latest version of minetest on debian, what do I have to do? 14:41 catninja am I just missing something? 14:42 VanessaE catninja: compile it :) 14:42 VanessaE est31: not a heavily-built map huh 14:44 est31 server is 3 months old 14:44 VanessaE oh that's a lot for 3 montha 14:44 VanessaE months* 14:44 VanessaE looks about like VE-Vanilla, but it took a year to get to its current state 14:45 catninja VanessaE: I was afraid of that *sigh* ok then. 14:45 VanessaE catninja: nah, compiling it easy 14:47 catninja VanessaE: and scary 14:48 VanessaE nope 14:48 rubenwardy Compiling on Linux is very easy 14:48 rubenwardy and is worth it overall 14:48 est31 especially if you have package management 14:48 Megaf_ catninja: i'm working on a shell script to download minetest, all dependencies and compile everything on its own 14:48 est31 compiling on LFS is a bit tricky 14:48 est31 but on debian, you can just type apt-get this and that 14:49 rubenwardy git clone http://github.com/minetest/minetest && cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DBUILD_SERVER=0 && make -j2 14:49 est31 so its very easy 14:49 rubenwardy oops 14:49 rubenwardy git clone http://github.com/minetest/minetest && cd minetest && cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DBUILD_SERVER=0 && make -j2 14:49 rubenwardy see 14:49 rubenwardy !g calinou 1 line install script 14:49 MinetestBot rubenwardy: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837 14:49 est31 try the "portable" installs part 14:50 rubenwardy In my C++ project I have this line: typedef unsigned char byte; 14:50 rubenwardy Do you hate me? XD 14:50 Megaf_ catninja: https://github.com/Megaf/Minetest4Debian 14:50 catninja rubenwardy: even if it is easy it feels wierd to run commands that makes no sense to me. 14:50 Megaf_ catninja: download the script, https://github.com/Megaf/Minetest4Debian/archive/master.zip 14:50 Megaf_ catninja: extract them, 14:51 Megaf_ then run InstallDependencies.sh as root 14:51 rubenwardy git clone downloads the source. cd moves to a folder. cmake configures the build. make builds it. 14:51 Megaf_ and InstallMinetest.sh as normal user 14:52 proller your license much longer than actual code 14:53 proller here much better version: https://github.com/freeminer/freeminer/blob/master/build/debian_ogles.sh 14:53 rubenwardy est Minetest source code and it's games. 14:53 rubenwardy * its 14:53 rubenwardy :P 14:53 est31 but that clones freeminer 14:54 est31 freeminer isnt minetest :p 14:54 proller luckily 15:16 algun !up 87.110.8.195 15:16 MinetestBot 87.110.8.195:30000 seems to be down 15:19 catninja followed the readme on github 15:19 catninja *githell 16:07 Megaf_ !server Megaf 16:07 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/11, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.12-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms 16:33 Krock Hello people! 16:34 ElectronLibre Hello Krock. 16:34 hoodedice !seen people 16:34 MinetestBot hoodedice: Sorry, I haven't seen people around. 16:35 Calinou I have 576 projects starred on GitHub \o/ 16:35 Calinou soon 600 16:35 hoodedice inb4 project update notification pings + email spam 16:35 hoodedice also, bootlooping phone yaay 16:36 Krock Calinou, give stars to my projects, they're geat :P 16:36 Krock *great 16:36 NekoGloop !seen MinetestBot 16:36 MinetestBot NekoGloop: minetestbot was last seen at 2014-12-20 16:51:58 UTC on #minetest-de 16:36 Krock !seen ShadowBot 16:36 MinetestBot Krock: shadowbot was last seen at 2014-11-08 00:35:55 UTC on #minetest 16:36 hoodedice ~seen MinetestBot 16:36 hoodedice ...where is shadowbot 16:36 ElectronLibre ShadowBot seems dead. 16:36 Krock That was the point of my !seen command :P 16:37 rubenwardy I like looking at what Clainou stars 16:37 rubenwardy * Calinou 16:37 ElectronLibre Since inchranet lost its domain name it was apparently disconnected. 16:37 Krock Username autocomplete ftw :P 16:37 hoodedice d'aw 16:37 hoodedice > Clainou 16:37 Clainou you made this? i made this 16:38 Calinou https://github.com/stars/Calinou/ 16:39 rubenwardy I have 28 starred 16:39 rubenwardy Soon to be 30! 16:39 Zeno` 90! 16:39 Clainou 2! 16:39 Clainou *me 2! 16:40 Clainou (missed a huge opportunity for puns) =( 16:45 hoodedice how to spam terminal. Step 1. Connect android phone to PC via USB with debugging. Step 2. adb logcat 16:46 rubenwardy Today I made a cpp file which included its self 16:46 rubenwardy Preprocessor stack overflow errors 16:47 rubenwardy Thousands of lines 16:47 hoodedice I once called a self calling method, what do you call that? 16:47 hoodedice stack overflow #java 16:47 rubenwardy recursion? 16:48 rubenwardy Basically, inside of writing #include "filename.hpp" I wrote #include "filename.cpp" 16:48 rubenwardy in filename.cpp 16:48 rubenwardy And there were thousands of lines like 16:48 hoodedice yes, recursion. 16:49 rubenwardy In /home/rubenwardy/dev/project/src/filename.cpp, 16:52 Zeno` mutually recursive is better 16:53 * Megaf_ is confused with the nick Clainou 16:53 Megaf_ Clainou and Calinou are very similar 16:54 twoelk don't know if Clainou has a meaning 16:58 Megaf_ [17:35] I have 576 projects starred on GitHub \o/ 16:58 Megaf_ heh, Today I deleted a lot of projests i had on GitHub 16:58 Megaf_ projects* 16:59 Megaf_ I'm goind to dedicate my time to a single thing now 16:59 Megaf_ going* 17:00 Megaf_ meh, I make typos a lot. 17:00 twoelk been there, tried that, didn't work 17:07 Megaf_ twoelk: multiple stuff at the same time for the win! 17:07 hoodedice [off] * You are now known as Clainou 17:08 hoodedice in other news, Segoe UI scales down really really bad. Wanted to use it as default font on android =/ 17:09 rubenwardy Do you guys approve of my macro? https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/56a8bacc26c09207172a 17:09 Megaf_ hoodedice: the droid font was specially designed to scale down 17:09 hoodedice I would suppose so, Megaf_ 17:10 Megaf_ so no need to try other fonts, I tried already 17:10 hoodedice but what with windows trying to be a mobile OS, I thought that segoe would play nice 17:10 hoodedice Arial. 17:10 hoodedice Arial always works 17:10 hoodedice Everywhere 17:11 * Megaf_ is attempting to use Shell Script functions 17:11 Megaf_ and I'm pretty sure I'm doing it wrong 17:11 hoodedice I don't get the "->" in C++ 17:11 hoodedice I tried googling it but hehehe, googling symbols amirite 17:11 Megaf_ lol 17:11 Megaf_ /Build.sh: EOF: not found 17:11 hoodedice > EOF not found 17:12 hoodedice > hell has no bottom 17:12 hoodedice > that file is hell confirmed 17:12 Megaf_ heh 17:12 Calinou hoodedice, Roboto! 17:12 Calinou its source files were recently released 17:12 Calinou also consider Noto 17:13 Megaf_ Ok, I have no idea why my SH tried to actually run the EOF 17:15 Calinou https://github.com/ncb000gt/node.bcrypt.js/commit/183f8162e3973e8257334fc0db2290b22a0296c3 17:16 Calinou “Copyright (c) 2101” 17:16 Calinou even Warzone 2100 doesn't reach this level of copyright 17:17 hoodedice Noto looks beautiful 17:18 hoodedice if only I could keep the Segoe UI numbers... 17:19 Calinou is it just me, or should one pronounce “Segoe” like “Segway”? 17:19 Calinou in any case, hoodedice, http://github.com/google/fonts 17:19 Calinou 1700 free/libre fonts 17:20 hoodedice I say it as "Say-Go" 17:20 Megaf_ [18:19] .pr segoe 17:20 Megaf_ [18:19] Megaf_, Pronunciation of segoe in English: [sˈiːɡə͡ʊ — ] 17:20 Megaf_ Calinou: ^ 17:20 hoodedice help, don't know how to read gibberish =D 17:20 Calinou I'm now at 589 starred repos 17:20 hoodedice star some of mine 17:20 hoodedice hint: won't update any 17:21 Calinou also check out https://github.com/trending on a regular basis 17:21 Megaf_ segoe -> seegay? 17:21 Megaf_ segoe -> sˈiːɡə͡ʊ -> seegay? 17:22 hoodedice > seegay 17:22 hoodedice TIL fonts have sexuality 17:22 K-Dog WERNERWARD 17:23 Calinou cool site http://cssnext.io/ 17:23 rubenwardy "You can literally write future-proof CSS and forget old preprocessor specific syntax. " 17:24 rubenwardy "You can literally write future-proof CSS and forget old preprocessor specific syntax. " 17:24 rubenwardy "You can LITERALLY write future-proof CSS and forget old preprocessor specific syntax. " 17:24 rubenwardy :( 17:24 hoodedice idontgetit.jpg 17:24 Calinou lite-Stunt-Rally 17:24 rubenwardy The word is completely redundant in that sentence 17:25 Megaf_ [18:24] .w literally 17:25 Megaf_ [18:24] Megaf_, literally — adverb: 1. (speech act) word for word; not figuratively; not as an idiom or metaphor, 2. (degree, proscribed) used non-literally as an intensifier for figurative statements: virtually (often considered incorrect; see usage notes), 3. (colloquial) Used as a generic downtoner: just, merely — http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/literally 17:25 rubenwardy literally != basically 17:25 init rubenwardy: it is a hipster thing, what do you want? 17:25 rubenwardy literally != simply 17:25 init rubenwardy: something useful? sadly, you may be looking at the wrong place 17:26 hoodedice literally is what happens when you allow post modernism to get too much of a foothold on things in the real world 17:26 hoodedice bbl 17:27 * twoelk doesn't like litterbugs 17:27 rubenwardy 1. is the only real usage there, the others are slangish 17:38 Megaf_ does C has functions? Or that's C++ thingy? 17:38 rubenwardy it does 17:38 rubenwardy C++ adds classes (records which have member functions) 17:40 Megaf_ ok, I'm learning about functions now 17:40 Megaf_ I converted all my shell script in several funcions before figuring out how they work 17:40 Megaf_ functions* 17:41 rubenwardy It's not worth (IMO) learning C unless you want to work on OSs 17:41 Megaf_ rubenwardy: I don't want to :) 17:41 Krock ..or with microcontrollers 17:46 Calinou learn JavaScript, soon you'll be able to make operating systems in it :D 17:46 Krock <.< 17:46 catninja Evil buggy OS 17:50 catninja compiling stuff was neither fun or easy ;___; 17:51 catninja Megaf_, VanessaE + ruben thx for the help anyway 17:53 Megaf_ lol catninja 17:54 catninja I just needed the update to run one thing for fun. and ended up spending 2h on compiling and githell 17:55 catninja "why are you such a bitch this evening?" 17:56 catninja I'm just gonna sit here in my corner and be grumpy 17:57 Calinou compiling Node stuff is fun :3 17:58 catninja what do you mean? 17:59 catninja I just wanted too be able to run my testworld to show what I'm working on 18:02 bobomb is there an API method for reading an image pixel by pixel? 18:04 Krock how would you put those informations into a Lua table? It would use way too much RAM 18:04 Krock so: no, there is no API method yet 18:04 Krock But you can open bitmaps using binary file functions 18:04 bobomb no just to read the value of a pixel at x,y 18:05 bobomb these would just be lua functions? 18:05 init https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5P_LAqiVg 18:05 init Calinou: node.js is a fucking joke 18:05 init Calinou: it's just javascript with even more hacks on top of it 18:06 Krock yes, it has to be done with Lua only and there are no image reading functions 18:06 init Calinou: JS is pretty crappy too, and if someone calls it an easy language it is because they ignore 90% of javascript 18:06 Krock -> you'll have to write your own functions 18:06 init (which are the exceptions to rules and exceptions) 18:06 init just like there are exceptions to the rule, in JS there are rules for the exceptions and exceptions to those 18:10 zat init: what kind of hacks? 18:11 init zat: most of the idiomatic things in Javascript are just hacks, even silly things like !!which should be trivially identity 18:11 init the* 18:11 init zat: the weak typing makes up half the need of hacks 18:11 init zat: the other half is not using JS's good things and instead of ignoring them 18:11 init zat: JS's scoping is also a little bit.. broken 18:12 zat so, what hacks? 18:12 init !!, === 18:13 zat ? 18:13 init the `class` OOP done previous to ES6, and the classes added by ES6 18:13 zat there are no classes, the class keyword is syntactic sugar. 18:13 init using floats by default is also a silly thing, you basically made your operations non associative 18:13 init zat: yes, it's just syntatic sugar for people that ignore the few good parts of JS 18:14 zat its a scripting language isn't it? 18:14 init so? 18:14 init it doesn't need to suck because you can write scripts with it 18:14 zat its your opinion 18:14 init it's not just mine 18:15 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=180065#p180065 it'a actually a serious mod. 18:15 zat not just? then you must be 100% right. :) 18:15 zat no doubt 18:15 init zat: it's a little bit more than an opinion, you can ask anyone that learnt/knows a few languages on different paradigms 18:16 zat I have 18:16 init a few static type systems, a few strict and dynamic type systems 18:16 zat I have 18:16 zat but my opinion sure won't count for you because I think differently :P 18:16 init nah 18:17 init but you're the first one to say that 18:17 init what's your background? 18:19 zat about 20 years of profesionally developing software for desktop in BASIC,Pascal,C,C++ and now web servers PHP, Ruby, JS 18:19 Krock Kenney, congratulations! 7 pages and still no download link. I think we're all totally excited. 18:19 init zat: only those languages? any language that isn't imperative? 18:20 Kenney Hah well sorry about that, just want to answer everyones questions. Also, X month hiatus in between ;) 18:20 init zat: SML? OCaml? Scheme? Haskell? Prolog? Mercury? Coq? 18:20 zat init: no, sorry for being so mainstream, my lack of paradigm shiftness will now surely invalidate every opinion I might have. 18:20 init no, but it sure will change it 18:21 zat oh god those are no no-mainstream! 18:21 zat :P 18:21 init I thought the way you did til I learnt SML 18:21 zat so* 18:21 Kenney The new pixel artist is doing an excellent job however and I can concentrate on actual content now 18:21 zat init: what do you know of the way I think? 18:21 init I don't know anything 18:21 * twoelk was drawn to Voxus by the graphical style and now fears what change might come 18:21 Krock ^ 18:22 init I am talking about myself, though, I thought pretty much the same way until I started switching paradigms 18:22 Kenney Oh no worries, it'll still rock 18:22 zat ah you once suggested SML I remember and I had a look on it. 18:22 Kenney I've gotten him to remake the grass sprite 4 times now hah 18:22 zat I decided it was no useful for me 18:22 init https://www.coursera.org/course/proglang 18:23 Krock Kenney, for(remake same thing) do motivation--; end 18:23 zat I know the fad of functional programming 18:23 Kenney money, motivation++; 18:23 zat and the fad of paradigm shifts 18:23 Krock but voxus is non-profit... 18:23 init zat: those languages aren't useful because they are used, but because their concepts are useful! 18:23 init it's more using languages as a tool 18:23 Kenney Yep, paying with my own money 18:24 Kenney hoping it could return in donations some day 18:24 zat back in reality, software needs to do a job and do it in a way so others can contribute. 18:24 twoelk I actually like the cheery but not overlly candy brightness of the color scheme, the slight pastellic charme 18:24 Krock Well, it's kinda hard to get donations here, I wish you good luck with this try. 18:25 Kenney The public domain game assets I create however do fund the current development time 18:25 init zat: it's more like you can't miss what you don't know 18:25 Kenney so no worries 18:25 init (no, I am not saying you don't know the concepts I am practically selling) 18:26 zat init: actually its more like I cannot afford to become an amateur programmer in a neverending research of new stuff. 18:26 init zat: yeah, I'll give you that learning FP is pretty starting nearly from scratch when it comes to thought and problem solving 18:27 zat I know some that are all the day talking about non-mainstream languages and different paradigms, all are unemployed. 18:27 Calinou Yep, paying with my own money 18:27 * Calinou elects Kenney as the next Mark Shuttleworth 18:27 Calinou his motto: “Great, but not infinite pockets” 18:27 Calinou :) 18:27 init zat: most jobs looking for non-mainstream languages aim pretty high, I'll give you that one too 18:27 Kenney Hah oh well I struck a good deal with the artist which I feel okay with, I know it will benefit the quality of the graphics 18:28 init half of the places want someone with a PhD :p 18:28 twoelk does the artist feel ok also? 18:28 zat init: thats just the same propaganda of the Python people 18:28 Kenney he'll be doing 200 textures/items for now, that's the first batch 18:28 Kenney Yep absolutely, he made up the price 18:28 Kenney I just agreed :) 18:28 Calinou 200? :o 18:28 init zat: is it? 18:29 Kenney well, lots of tiles will be simple alternatives. Grass top tiles are 5 right now 18:29 Kenney Grass sprites are 8 18:29 Kenney here's me hoping random textures will ever be a thing, instead of having to create additional nodes 18:30 twoelk argh, that will clutter the texture folders even more with tiny texture files. I wish we could use some texture atlas at times 18:30 Kenney ^ would love that too man 18:30 zat "we do things differently but better, no doubt" (in their opinion) 18:30 zat "we do the things the right way" (in their opinion) 18:30 zat "our user base is not as big as X but we get better jobs" (lies) 18:31 twoelk maybe a textureatlas per node might allready help 18:31 Kenney http://puu.sh/i51Wf/1818b4cdd2.png clutter clutter clutter 18:31 Kenney Yeah, sorta like an animation texture but it would select a random frame 18:31 Kenney problem solved! 18:31 zat python developers I know of, about 20, 18 are unemployed. The two left are coding in something else. 18:32 zat php developers I know, all employed 18:32 Kenney btw I lied it seems 18:32 Calinou https://github.com/cjb/GitTorrent/blob/master/README.md 18:32 zat JS developers I know, all employed 18:32 init zat: being employed writing PHP isn't that hard 18:32 Kenney Grass top tiles are 7 and grass sprites are 11...geez 18:32 zat I haven't said otherwise 18:32 init zat: the same goes with JS 18:32 zat also, most of those languages are multi-paradigm. 18:33 rom1504 init: that's the point 18:33 init zat: I'd say most places looking for PHP/JS don't even look for quality but for quantity 18:33 zat thats because web developers sux 18:33 init most of the people I know working with PHP or JS, look forward for switching to something decent 18:33 twoelk hm, animation sequence chosen with a freeze in animation 18:34 zat I have seem (an FIXED) many switches to Ruby, Python or Microsoft things. 18:34 twoelk the freezing point chosen at random 18:34 zat newbie developers brainwash their employers and make them switch to messy platforms. 18:34 Kenney oh btw I will release the old Voxus tiles as public domain later on 18:34 twoelk great 18:35 Kenney probably also see to create an alternative default texture pack with them for Minetest\ 18:35 init zat: Ruby/Python/C# were languages known to don't change anything in the middle, and being half-solutions to the problems they solved 18:35 twoelk I was just preparing a List of Textures for the wiki as I have made for the games 18:36 zat init: normally the switches are not to solve anything 18:36 zat the only switch I would do from would be PHP 18:36 init because the problem is also that companies look quantity over quality 18:36 init switching from PHP to what? 18:36 zat no whatever not PHP 18:36 init Ruby, Python, C#, Java don't really improve anything at the long term 18:36 zat to* 18:37 zat Its not the language, it's how you use it. 18:37 rom1504 , c++ 18:37 twoelk havn't included Voxus in the List of Games yet as there is nothing to download - as of yet 18:37 zat It's a huge mistake to think that the language makes the quality of the product. 18:37 zat In some cases it affect certain things, no more. 18:38 init it doesn't, it sure helps in the long term if the costs of maintenance are lower, most languages aim for the short-term return, though 18:39 twoelk and yet a good song or poem makes use of the language it is writen in as much as possible 18:39 twoelk good programming should be similar 18:39 zat init: and a widely known language means less cost in maintenance. 18:39 init does it? 18:39 twoelk bah all them english songs :-( 18:40 zat yes, specially if I am able to find a developer of said language in time 18:40 init I won't deny you can hire 40 PHP developers and get them working within a week 18:41 zat Ruby developers are not many over here, an old employer was stuck with a software made in Ruby 18:41 init the problem is that it is still aiming too much for quantity not quality 18:41 zat he tried to find a single Ruby developer for months 18:41 zat in the end I fixed that mess and without even knowing Ruby. 18:42 zat He made me port the server to PHP, which I did not want to but had to do it anyway. 18:42 init learning new syntax is relatively easy 18:42 rom1504 I don't understand why people hire "X developper", surely people can learn new languages ? 18:42 est31 ^ 18:42 zat rom1504: not really 18:42 init learning a language is different to master it 18:42 init you can learn Ruby in a week if you know Python and PHP 18:42 zat languages with a low entry barrier normally result in incompetent coders. 18:43 init being able to write idiomatic code is a different thing 18:43 twoelk and learning costs time and thus money 18:43 zat about all php developers I know can't understand anything but php 18:43 zat same for people that learn python first thing ever 18:43 Calinou there are very competent Python developers 18:43 init really few 18:44 est31 but python is a language made for beginners 18:44 zat there are very competent PHP developers too 18:44 est31 not for masters 18:44 Calinou it's made for everyone 18:44 rom1504 if you know lot of stuff about algorithms, paradigms and techniques (network, concurrency,...) that's enough to write decent code in a new language in a reasonable amount of time 18:44 zat that includes beginners 18:44 init Python/Ruby/PHP/JS aim at "lower short-term cost, higher logn-term cost" 18:44 init rom1504: paradigms! 18:45 init rom1504: but those languages aren't mainstream duh! 18:45 zat Ruby is not a bad language, it is normally underestimated. 18:45 init Calinou: "Python"? http://bob.ippoli.to/python-haskell-ep2014/ 18:45 est31 js and php are very mainstream 18:45 zat JS is too complicated. 18:45 init I didn't say it wasn't, I actually like it (given that you can't use Smalltalk) for pedogical purposes 18:45 zat PHP has remains of being a templating language 18:46 Calinou Ruby isn't the easiest to read 18:46 zat and that's what has made it horribler every new version. 18:46 Krock btw, what's te state of the PHP-JIT project? I thought there was something active 18:46 Calinou there's literally a market of PHP accelerators 18:46 init Calinou: you shouldn't aim for being easier to read to someone who doesn't know the language, though 18:46 Calinou zat, did you give Laravel a try? 18:46 Calinou good languages are easy to read for everyone, init 18:46 Calinou this is why they favour “and” and “or” instead of && and || 18:47 zat Calinou: I am avoiding PHP at all costs. 18:47 zat I developed 3 frameworks for PHP by the way. 18:47 init Calinou: good languages are easy to mantain 18:47 init Calinou: not easy to read 18:47 rom1504 hire haskell programmers to be sure the people you hire can learn the language you actually need :p 18:47 init being easy to mantain means that you can reason locally about code 18:48 init the code _looking_ easy doesn't mean it is easy, either 18:48 init because programming, is sadly, hard 18:48 Calinou people should strive to make programming easier, this is how you actually get high-quality software, rather than being elitist 18:48 zat the worst are those that try to make a programming language look like plain english 18:48 Calinou Git made it easy for people to contribute, instead of having to give .patch files generated by hand 18:49 Calinou it lets people write higher-quality software 18:49 zat super wrong 18:49 est31 but its entry barrier is very high 18:49 init no, making programming `easier` at the cost of safety, correctness, performance, ... is basically wrong 18:49 rom1504 "you can reason locally about code" : yes, this is so true, when you got code that is interdependant with everything in the whole project, you'll have to understand everything in the project to fix just a small thing 18:49 Calinou est31, there are tons of “git cheat sheets” around that help demystify Git 18:49 est31 you get high quality software by standards and guidelines 18:49 Calinou init, computers are faster than ever 18:49 Calinou there are pretty safe languages like Rust, that are still modern 18:49 zat lowering the entry barrier yields a huge base of inexperienced programmers thinking they are experienced 18:50 Calinou est31, it's up to language developers to set them up 18:50 Calinou sadly most don't 18:50 init language developers? 18:50 Calinou (see GDScript, reduz has no intent to put official guidelines) 18:50 init you mean those who designed the language? 18:50 est31 language developers should design a language not what to do with it 18:50 init they shouldn't set those kinds of guidelines you are thinking about 18:50 init what est31 said 18:50 zat guidelines are language independent 18:50 init there's no `one-size-fits-all` guideline, it's up to the task 18:51 est31 thats true too 18:51 Calinou syntax guidelines are probably not language-independent 18:51 init Calinou: some languages were designed with flexibility in their syntax as one of the core things 18:51 zat thats a different matter and have little impact in the quality of the resulting software for the user 18:51 est31 they do have impact 18:51 init because syntax is the least of your problems, unless it's C++ 18:51 est31 but mostly destructive impact 18:52 zat I said little 18:52 Calinou init, it leads to inconsistency, and thus head-scartching 18:52 zat in compiled language it is little 18:52 init Calinou: it doesn't 18:52 Calinou like “why do they use “or” here, and || there?” 18:52 zat that's code quality 18:52 zat no resulting software quality 18:53 init Calinou: about code quality, there are one hundred things I can argue about that most languages do wrong, one of those is trying to look exactly like english 18:53 zat I can compile from a blob of extremely obfuscated code and the resulting software will be still good 18:53 init english is a natural language, and isn't extremely precise 18:53 est31 but you can't build that kind of software zat 18:53 est31 noone is smart enough for that 18:54 zat init: that's the mistake of python fanboys, they argue that looking like english is precisely a strength 18:54 est31 ofc there are people who can demystify the largest goto spaghetti 18:54 zat est31: I cannot do what specificaly? 18:54 rom1504 english isn't context-free 18:54 est31 but if you want to add a certain feature 18:54 est31 then you will need to know how 18:54 est31 and for that you'll need to know exactly how the code behaves 18:54 init rom1504: you can still be context-sensitive in your grammar and not be ambiguous 18:55 init rom1504: (the layout rule is context-sensitive, as an example) 18:55 est31 the best way to do that is by having self-documenting code 18:55 rom1504 yeah but english's context is not really well defined 18:55 rom1504 it can be anything 18:55 init the code looking like english is the wrong kind of self-documenting code 18:56 init most clean code I found, is too `terse`, and could be considered unreadable by some people, not because it's hard to understand, but because you need to think when you read the code, and it is not because the code is clever, but because the code is a doing a lot 18:57 init if you have 2 lines with 40 characters each, that do the work of 2 big functions of 40 lines each 18:58 twoelk maybe code should look like Latin. Thats a rather precise language compared to modern ones ;-P 18:58 init I would have said lojban 18:59 techner hello, i need help with mesecons mod 18:59 techner I installed it 18:59 techner but, when loading the game 18:59 techner the next error code appears: 18:59 techner .minetest/mods/mesecons_main/mesecons_torch/init.lua:79: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'LIGHT_MAX' (a nil value) 19:00 techner I try to create a depends.txt with default 19:00 techner but it doesn't work 19:00 zat conclusion, JS is cool 19:01 init weak typing is insane from a debugging perspective though 19:01 init most bugs I have had in dynamic languages would have been caught with a stronger type system 19:02 twoelk maybe most js haters try to use it for jobs it was not designed for. 19:03 init I agree 19:03 init node.js is plain wrong 19:03 init green threads would be a nicer approach to concurrency 19:03 init *cough* erlang *cough* 19:05 init hahahah, kung fury is so good 19:05 est31 js has the problem that you have to write unit tests 19:05 est31 thats the advantage of strongly typed languages 19:06 zat isn't there a JS derived language that can be strong tped? 19:06 zat I forgot its name. 19:06 rom1504 you still have to write unit tests in strongly typed languages 19:06 rom1504 just not the "type checking" ones 19:06 init unit tests are still a thing 19:06 init you rule out pretty much 90% of the unit tests you would have to write though 19:07 init zat: Purescript is the only close to that thing 19:07 zat init: what is the problem with the callbacks system? 19:07 init zat: most languages (I know) that still use JS-ish syntax don't try to have sound typesystems 19:07 hoodedice /back 19:08 init zat: compared to green threads, they're too verbose, and wouldn't mind some syntatic sugar (do-syntax-like) 19:08 init verbose, and harder to reason about 19:08 init it's a nice hack though, using continuations for threading 19:08 init it's what compilers do :) 19:08 hoodedice init, I don't see a problem with languages having english words to write code with 19:09 init hoodedice: english words? no, I am talking about trying to look like english 19:09 hoodedice apart from the fact that you need to learn english to write code =P 19:09 init english is too complex and it isn't precise enough 19:09 hoodedice it can be both 19:09 init there's no natural language (also, not artificial) that is precise enough to be used for programming 19:09 zat I don't see the problem with callbacks though 19:10 zat it does its job fine 19:10 Hijiri artificial as in a preplanned language? 19:10 Hijiri like lojban etc 19:10 init Hijiri: yes 19:11 hoodedice !g lojban 19:11 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://mw.lojban.org/ 19:11 init zat: callbacks are not `wrong`, it's what a scheduler using continuations would use behind the layers, but having it as a main abstraction is pretty hardcore 19:11 rom1504 but then can human talk non natural languages ? 19:11 Calinou === solves most problems of weak typing 19:11 rom1504 (without checking with a computer) 19:11 Calinou and weak typing can sometimes solve headaches :p 19:11 init Calinou: you are kidding, right? 19:11 Calinou well, most developers use === exclusively 19:11 Hijiri === can't tell you what type you need 19:12 init Calinou: I would prefer JS over Java, but any decent strong & static type system would make most problems with weak typing a thing that gets catched at compile time 19:12 rom1504 what is "===" ? I guess not wiki markup :p 19:12 init Calinou: note that if you don't have sum types, a strong type system is painfully anoying 19:12 Hijiri super equality 19:12 Hijiri (I don't know its name) 19:12 rom1504 oh irght 19:12 zat init: there are threads for nodejs too 19:12 init rom1504: it's equality that returns false when the parameters aren't of the same type 19:13 Calinou == means “equals” 19:13 Calinou === means “equals and same type” 19:13 init === means "we fucked up equality, so we use this new thing" 19:13 Calinou eg: 2 == "2" is true but 2 === "2" is false 19:13 Hijiri I think "dynamic typing" is really just one type with a tag 19:13 init it can be seen that way, weak typing is worst though 19:14 init and you can be static and weak (C) or dynamic and weak (Javascript) 19:14 init (if you can call C's type system a type system) 19:15 hoodedice uh... java uses .equals() to compare actual objects; is that what === does? 19:15 Calinou https://github.com/okamstudio/godot/wiki/tutorial_gdscript_efficiently 19:15 Hijiri does weak typing mean you can break the typing abstraction? 19:15 zat I still see a case of "different to what I like? then it is bad" 19:15 Calinou read “Pros & Cons of Dynamic Typing” 19:16 init one of the things JS also does wrong is doing what most languages do pretty badly 19:16 rom1504 hoodedice: no 19:16 hoodedice Calinou, the godot shilling is real /s 19:16 rom1504 well not exactly 19:16 init x == y doesn't mean x and y are equal, they are the same object 19:16 Calinou hoodedice, now you are no longer Waiting for Godot! 19:16 Hijiri I don't know if "less code written" is unique to dynamic typing 19:16 Hijiri there are programs I could write more succinctly in haskell than ruby 19:16 Hijiri I am pretty bad at ruby though 19:17 * hoodedice (reference to some sick in-joke) 19:17 hoodedice ^(hint: I didn't get the joke) 19:17 init Calinou: you are confusing dynamic with weak typing 19:17 zat init: plz define equality in objects. 19:17 Calinou no, I'm not 19:17 Hijiri compilation is also not really a pro 19:17 Hijiri You can type-check without compiling 19:17 Calinou I'm just putting that link in case you are complaining about dynamic typing 19:17 init zat: there's no sane definition, equality isn't defined for everything 19:17 hoodedice nice question zat, what exactly makes two objects equal? 19:17 Hijiri so you can interpret a strong static typed language if you just typecheck it first 19:17 init Calinou: my main complaint is against weaktyping 19:18 hoodedice !g two objects equal programming 19:18 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13387742/compare-two-objects-with-equals-and-operator 19:18 init > Most code can be written and changed quickly and without hassle. 19:18 Hijiri also "less code written" isn't a big issue for a language with decent type inference 19:18 init liar, the more dynamic you go, the less mistakes you can catch at `static` time, and it means refactoring ends being harder 19:18 Hijiri less clutter 19:18 Hijiri I mean 19:19 init yes, I agree that most issues with strong type systems go away when you have type inference, algebraic data types, high order functions, and closures 19:19 est31 what are algebraic data types? 19:19 needhelp hi 19:20 init defining a new type in terms of other types, product types or sum types, product types are just tuples/structs 19:20 zat I would also like to add, that certain situations are solved differently in a language it doesn't mean it is wrong at all. First define wrong, and why would it apply in that specific language. 19:20 init sum types are tagged unions 19:21 init zat: can you give me a few reasons to dislike PHP? 19:21 est31 zat, so what does "product" and "sum" have properties? 19:21 zat est31: ????? 19:21 est31 do you have the distributive property? 19:21 init yes, they do 19:21 Hijiri I think algebraic data types are supposed to form a ring or something up to isomorphism? 19:21 Hijiri I'm not sure 19:21 needhelp someone has the craft guide mode? 19:21 zat init: PHP is full of remains of a templating language 19:21 init Hijiri: no, it's not ring, it's a semiring IIRC 19:22 needhelp someone has the craft guide mod? 19:22 Hijiri oh 19:22 init I am not sure, I haven't checked that pretty well 19:22 est31 semiring with or without 1 ? 19:22 Hijiri does addition in rings need to be a group 19:22 ElectronLibre needhelp, what do you need about the craft guide mod? 19:22 init est31: with identity 19:22 needhelp it doesnt work 19:22 needhelp I installed it 19:22 est31 and is it commutative? 19:22 init Hijiri: you need to add exponentials (functions) too 19:22 needhelp with its dependencies (domb) 19:22 ElectronLibre Does it crash? 19:22 needhelp but it doesn't appear 19:22 needhelp I create a game 19:23 init est31: the bottom type is the identity of the sum type, the unit type is the identity of the product type 19:23 init 0 and 1 19:23 ElectronLibre Don't forget to enable it in the world's settings. 19:23 needhelp and the craft guide workbench doesn't show 19:23 init 0 * x = 0 also holds 19:23 needhelp it's enabled ... 19:23 needhelp e.e 19:23 zat init: and it lacks a built in way to achieve parallelism. 19:23 est31 ok so you have identities, but what about x * y == y * x ? 19:23 ElectronLibre And what about domb? 19:23 needhelp cgmr is enabled 19:23 needhelp domb too 19:23 est31 does that hold or not? 19:23 ElectronLibre And its dependencies? 19:23 est31 (always) 19:24 needhelp cgmr depends on domb 19:24 needhelp and domb just depends on default 19:24 init est31: yes, up to isomorphism 19:24 ElectronLibre Look at the logs at start up and see if there is any error. 19:24 init zat: have you looked at Erlang? 19:25 init well, it's more aiming at concurrency than parallelism 19:25 zat I don't really like it 19:25 needhelp Undeclared global variable "unified_inventory" accessed at ...etest/mods/technic/technic/machines/register/recipes.lua:54 19:26 ElectronLibre That's not a problem. 19:26 init est31: note that the `arity` of a type, is how many "elements" you have on it 19:26 ElectronLibre ^ By the way, do whoever maintains this, if it's not already done, fix it please. 19:26 needhelp i will try installed the unified inventory mod... 19:26 needhelp i will try installing the unified inventory mod... 19:26 init est31: you can also be recursive, allowing you to define lists, as an example 19:27 init 1 is (), 2 is Bool (true / false), Maybe is (1+) 19:27 zat init: popularity of a language is the most important factor when considering to invest time in a language 19:27 est31 init this means that you are a halfgroup 19:27 est31 closed under + and * 19:28 init est31: yes, I don't remember the correct name of the algebraic structure 19:28 init zat: I disagree, but sure :P 19:28 zat init: what is the use of mastering a language so little used, I won't have any contributors 19:28 est31 and "is a ring up to isomorphism" means its automatically a ring 19:28 Hijiri I would say quality of the community is more important than the popularity 19:29 est31 but doesnt mean its commutative 19:29 init Hijiri: but quantity goes over quality 19:29 Hijiri there is probably some function on popularity and quality that gives optimalness values 19:29 init zat: there's no need to master a language 19:30 zat init: then say invest time 19:30 zat time is gold! 19:30 init zat: it'll give you better tools for your current projects! 19:30 init s/better/more 19:30 zat time is money 19:30 zat http://www.probabilityof.com/ICON/MATH.jpg 19:31 init you can't miss what you don't know 19:31 zat with that you can argue in favor of anything 19:32 est31 so its algebraically closed? 19:32 Krock zat, amazing. 19:32 init est31: yes, AFAIK 19:32 est31 nice, but then women can have imaginary parts 19:32 init lol 19:32 init it's the absolute value of problems 19:32 est31 at least in C 19:32 init zat: learn the mathematics concepts behind those languages, then 19:33 init zat: it won't programming after all 19:33 zat I don't see the urgency of certain people to force others do what they like 19:33 zat :P 19:33 est31 there algebraically closed rings too which arent isomorpphic to C 19:33 est31 like the zero ring :) 19:57 init https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5P_LAqiVg it's amazing 19:57 Kenney watched that twice today, once at home and once at the office 19:57 Kenney amazing 20:00 init I am gonna watch it with family later 20:00 Kenney Oh dear 20:00 init ikr 20:01 hoodedice ... 20:02 * hoodedice doesn't get the hype about that movie 20:02 Kenney It's just so dang over the top 20:02 Kenney and the VHS effects do bring back some memories 20:02 hoodedice >_> 20:02 catninja and it is from my city! 20:03 hoodedice as a 90s kid, no memories are being brought back 20:03 hoodedice apart from maybe my parent's marriage vhs... 20:03 hoodedice but that didn't have so much... pink 20:03 init I am a 90s kid, I still love the movie 20:03 Kenney How far into 90s? 20:03 Kenney I'm from 1990 and boy did I watch some VHS tapes 20:03 hoodedice born in '95... 20:04 Kenney Ah right 20:04 hoodedice I did watch some vhs when I was younger, but mostly meh about it 20:04 hoodedice like, I don't even remember the CD age 20:04 Kenney I had this one tape which had 1 episode of (what I thought was) Transformers on it, watched it over and over and over 20:04 hoodedice I do distinctly remember the age of floppies tho 20:04 Kenney later on I discovered it was actually GoBots 20:04 Kenney it was missing the title sequence so I had no idea 20:05 hoodedice *suddenly* 20:06 * hoodedice flashbacks into when I was an 8 year old console peasant, gaming on a PSOne 20:06 hoodedice *he 20:08 init there are lots of funny puns on the movie 20:08 Kenney TANK YOU 20:08 init and also funny obvious references 20:08 init Hoff 9000 20:08 init not opening the doors of the car.. lol 20:09 hoodedice hmm well, since it so all over the internets I'll have to watch it 20:10 init I want a e = mc^2 converter now 20:10 init written in Java apparently 20:11 init before Java was a thing, that explains the time machine 20:11 Kenney Glad the movie is 30 minutes though, shouldn't have lasted longer 20:11 init yeah, I think it's perfect 20:11 init long enough to have lots of funny things 20:11 init but not too long to be boring 20:14 init I want a laser raptor as pet now 20:15 Kenney my girlfriend absolutely hated the movie btw 20:15 Kenney well my ex-girlfriend now, if you know what I mean 20:15 init lol 20:16 Kenney hah nah, she's just more intro realistic stuff - none of the over the top madness 20:16 Kenney although she did like Mad Max 20:16 Kenney I have no clue man, women... 20:16 init yeah, the madness is half the fun :P 20:16 Kenney Mad Max was absolutely great though 20:16 Kenney did you see it? 20:17 init I don't know the english name of most movies I watched 20:17 init lemme check 20:17 init oh, no :/ 20:18 init I think I have it downloaded though 20:18 Kenney It's been in cinemas for a week or two, don't think you can download it yet 20:18 Kenney the new one atleast 20:18 Kenney Fury Road 20:18 hoodedice I liked Video Game High School though 20:18 init oh, I am not talking about the last one 20:19 Kenney oh no VGHS was horrible 20:19 hoodedice ... 20:20 Kenney I've seen two episodes I believe, couldn't stand it anymore, too much cringe 20:20 catninja http://38.media.tumblr.com/0d5f4f4ece6f4d4bf6d40f555c2caa2a/tumblr_norf3cdeI11s2yegdo1_400.gif 20:20 catninja me coding 20:20 hoodedice cringe is okay-ish 20:21 hoodedice me coding http://p.pomf.se/7728 20:21 catninja ok more like this 20:21 catninja http://41.media.tumblr.com/26bab33549dac15b16af0e7531a08577/tumblr_noetxie4GV1qzeo2zo1_500.jpg 20:22 hoodedice out of memory, eh? 20:22 hoodedice or wrong address =P 20:22 catninja no very much correct 20:23 catninja I'm so tired of coding today but my dog is not in a cuddly mode 20:28 hoodedice > dog 20:28 hoodedice > cuddly 20:28 catninja maybe I can trick him 20:28 hoodedice no 20:29 catninja hoodedice: time to get some chikn then. 20:30 hoodedice chicken is very cuddly 20:30 hoodedice VERY 20:31 hoodedice so are bunnies https://d1u1p2xjjiahg3.cloudfront.net/4fdd6621-26d5-4991-9363-c8e8f559941d.jpg 20:31 hoodedice (NSFW- GORE ^) 20:31 catninja doge was possible to bribe 20:32 catninja chickens are cuddly 20:32 ElectronLibre Oh, this is from "The Holy Grail". 20:32 ElectronLibre This bunny was very cuddly indeed. 20:33 Kenney Should watch that someday 20:34 ElectronLibre It is funny, but a bit silly. 20:35 hoodedice someone told me "The Princess Bride" was a comedy 20:35 hoodedice I laughed once. 20:35 hoodedice like this "heh" 20:35 ElectronLibre Well, in fact, not just a bit. 20:35 Kenney I've watched Life of Brian which was okay, didn't really enjoy it so I'm a bit worried The Holy Grail is on the same level 20:35 Kenney The Princess Bride is really great though 20:35 Kenney Didn't find it very humerous, but it was a fun watch 20:39 Kenney btw ElectronLibre, you got me thinking a bit and I will release the first version of Voxus when the terrain generation is in and done - so a lot earlier 20:40 hoodedice = 20:40 hoodedice ) 20:40 ElectronLibre Do what you want to do, it's your project. 20:41 Kenney true, but it gives users a sneak peak and they can already hunch over the code to improve the world generation 20:41 Kenney while I get on with further features 21:38 dakotawolfy Uhm 22:59 JadenWolf Mtz-basic, players 23:05 YvesLevier Having a question (Technic) 23:11 YvesLevier What is the right way to ask a technical question? 23:11 YvesLevier *ask for 23:16 NekoGloop with a keyboard 23:25 Wayward_Tab Hehe 23:27 NekoGloop Wayward_Tab: I find your name funny because it can be typed as "Wayward_" then pressing Tab, because IRC ^^ 23:27 Wayward_Tab Haha, I never thought of it that way :P 23:28 VanessaE hell, W is enough even :) 23:29 Wayward_Tab Lol 23:29 NekoGloop yeah but I can type wayward_ then press Tab and it literally writes Tab 23:30 VanessaE heh 23:31 NekoGloop computer humor yay 23:56 Wayward_Tab There's a certain satisfaction in finally getting a Live USB to boot 23:57 Wayward_Tab Especially when it doubles as your new SSD