Time Nick Message 00:02 Sur3 how do i kill the lava monster, do i need water to kill it? o.O 00:07 bleak_fire_ is a server automatically "public"? 00:16 everamzah bleak_fire_: no, only if server_announce = 1 in your minetest.conf 00:18 Johnsen2 LILLY-THE-TROLLER 00:18 Johnsen2 Huh, i got trolled by a person named LILLY. 00:19 Johnsen2 She granted me all privilages then revoked them all: bullying me though 00:31 kdmine hi, how is called the mod of the complete crafting guide? 00:34 bleak_fire_ after installing a bunch of mods moreblocks crashes 00:34 kdmine hi, how is called the mod of the complete crafting guide? 00:34 bleak_fire_ homedecor_modpack/building_blocks/init.lua:274: attempt to index global 'stairsplus' (a nil value) 00:35 bleak_fire_ and if i remove moreblocks it goes away 00:35 bleak_fire_ but i never had that problem before 00:35 bleak_fire_ is there a way to regenerate stuff? 00:36 kdmine hi, how is called the mod of the complete crafting guide? 00:37 everamzah i don't know what you mean by regenerate, but all i can guess is to make sure homedecor is up to date. 00:37 bleak_fire_ i was using the built-in repository one 00:37 bleak_fire_ maybe it's incompatible with the minetest-stable repository latest version 00:37 bleak_fire_ so will download from forum 00:41 bleak_fire_ dammit moreblocks is a tarbomb 00:43 fireglow hm? 01:34 bleak_fire_ how do you disable built-in mods (like tnt, etc( 01:34 bleak_fire_ the ones in /usr/share/minetest/games 01:34 everamzah tnt is disabled by default in multiplayer. you have to enter enable_tnt = true in minetest.conf to enable it 01:35 everamzah https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/minetest.conf.example shows some of these options 01:36 everamzah otherwise, if you want to disable minetest_game mods, AFAIK, you have to override them in a new custom mod. 01:39 bleak_fire_ even though it says in /mods? 01:40 everamzah i don't know that you can disable specific mods that are part of an encompassing sub-game like minetest_game. 01:40 everamzah whether* 01:43 bleak_fire_ well it's not in unified_inventory so i guess you're right 01:44 everamzah i misunderstood. tnt mod is loaded, but disabled by default somehow. 01:54 fireglow create a empty directory in world/worldmods/ 01:54 fireglow and an empty init.lua in the mod directory 01:56 everamzah so if i wanted to disable for example boats i'd make an empty world/worldmods/boat/init.lua ? 01:57 fireglow yip 01:58 fireglow looks like this in the log: 01:58 fireglow ACTION[main]: WARNING: Mod name conflict detected: "screwdriver" 01:58 fireglow ACTION[main]: Will not load: /srv/minetest/bin/../games/minetest_game/mods/screwdriver 01:58 fireglow ACTION[main]: Overridden by: /srv/minetest/world/worldmods/screwdriver 01:58 fireglow quite 01:58 everamzah excellent thanks 02:03 fireglow np :) 02:21 Tablet_One Grr 02:22 Tablet_One Dang laptop is less reliable than this tablet xD 02:23 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix endianness inconsistency with PcgRandom::bytes() 139fc2b93 http://git.io/hxX3 (152015-03-23T22:23:16-04:00) 02:23 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Schematics: Error if unable to open file 13a423202 http://git.io/hxXs (152015-03-23T22:22:14-04:00) 02:24 * orbea tries voxelands and quickly decides he prefers minetest 02:25 orbea minetest on a slow server with leveldb has a faster generating map than voxelands single player lol 02:25 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Add core.register_schematic() and cache schematics on use 13732d7b9 http://git.io/hxXV (152015-03-23T22:23:38-04:00) 02:25 hmmmm is voxellands the minetest-classic offshoot? 02:26 orbea its a minetest fork made by people that wanted minetest to be more ootb I think 02:26 hmmmm if they forked a revision before like 0.4.5 or 0.4.6, i can easily see how their map generation is so slow 02:27 hmmmm i optimized light spreading and perlin noise by factors of like 22x 02:27 orbea more info here http://wiki.minetest.net/Overview_of_Minetest_forks 02:27 orbea ah, that makes sense :) 02:27 hmmmm it's really easy to implement my faster algorithms into their code; they should try that out sometime 02:27 hmmmm it won't bite 02:28 * orbea hopes they notice, but sticks with minetest anyways 02:29 hmmmm well it all depends on what you're looking for 02:29 hmmmm voxelands to my understanding is trying to be more like a game 02:29 orbea I like the extensibility of minetest 02:30 hmmmm minetest is not... a game. people make games through combinations of various mods 02:30 orbea and also the commnunity seems better 02:30 exio4 minetest is an engine? 02:30 hmmmm duh 02:30 exio4 hi, too :P 02:30 orbea better as in larger with more activity 02:30 hmmmm yeah, but that's beside the point 02:30 hmmmm there will always be more activity in the original project than there is the fork 02:31 orbea true 02:31 exio4 not always 02:31 exio4 what if the fork is a continuation of a dead project? :P 02:31 orbea yea, if the fork is just better 02:31 orbea like mpv and mplayer 03:13 Tablet_One I apologize for my laptop's behaviour 03:14 Tablet_One Rebooting momentarily, hopefully that will fix it 03:21 Tablet_One @$#! 03:26 Tablet_One That is quite frustrating 03:26 Tablet_One Might have to reinstall the whole friggen OS :/ 03:27 Tablet_One Hello Zeno`:) 03:28 Zeno` wassup :) 03:31 Sokomine hmm. i need better rotation code for rotation, considering mirroring where possible. doesn't anyone happen to have translation tables at hand? :-) 04:24 Sokomine hmm. or how about a we->mts converter? could use one right now. it'd make things a lot easier 04:56 orbea is there anything I need to do to get the default farming mod to work? Wheat grows to the first stage and then just does nothing 04:57 orbea or do I need one of the farming extension mods? 09:27 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Chocolate Covered Raisins Day! :-D 10:29 bleak_fire_ hi 10:29 bleak_fire_ i've been setting up a server tonight 10:30 bleak_fire_ but i dont see it in the public list 10:30 bleak_fire_ is there a delay or am i doing something wrong? 10:30 bleak_fire_ i have server_announce = 1 10:30 bleak_fire_ and the output on the terminal says it's announced itself 10:33 bleak_fire_ oh here it is i just had to add the ip and port to the minetest.conf 10:36 bleak_fire_ btw it's called "D R E A M" with IP 45.56.109.109 10:36 bleak_fire_ will post a forum soon 10:36 bleak_fire_ but i have to go to bed as it's almost 7 AM 10:37 Calinou bleak_fire_, you have cURL installed on the server? 10:37 Calinou and compiled with support for it 10:37 bleak_fire_ it's very similar to pizza server but with a few differences 10:37 bleak_fire_ it's linode 10:37 bleak_fire_ no problems anymore after i set the config right 10:40 bleak_fire_ refresh the public server list and try and connect 10:43 bleak_fire_ ok had a few connections who are playing now 10:44 bleak_fire_ goodnight 10:44 bleak_fire_ thank you everyone 10:44 bleak_fire_ for helping me out all night 12:15 luizrpgluiz hi 12:16 Zeno` greetings fellow IRCian 12:19 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Zeno- -> 03minetest/minetest: Slow down the "key repeat" touch speed for some Android controls 139fbc3a8 http://git.io/hhXU (152015-03-24T22:19:32+10:00) 12:24 Zeno` take me to your leader 12:24 deezl good morning Zeno` 12:24 Zeno` guten morgen deezl 12:24 Zeno` ! 12:24 Zeno` that's French for good morning 12:25 deezl er... 12:25 Zeno` or... Danish. I dunno, something 12:25 deezl Deutsch 12:25 Zeno` no swearing! 12:25 deezl o.O 12:25 deezl that was just a sneeze 12:25 Zeno` hehe 12:26 Zeno` How's things, deezl? 12:26 Zeno` All quiet on the home front? I'm so tired after today I haven't even looked (bad server admin!) 12:26 deezl not bad, hanging out on JD-Pub atm 12:27 Zeno` pub? Sounds good to me 12:27 deezl amen! 12:29 deezl Jordach's new server, it appears he is trying to supplant mtz as the pre-eminent server on #minetest 12:31 Zeno` oh :( 12:32 deezl fear not 12:32 deezl btw, if you didn't see him, Odin's been around a bit lately :D 12:33 Zeno` no :-o 12:34 Zeno` I need to get out of my bug fixing tunnel vision and be more sociable hehe 12:34 deezl we appreciate all your hard work sir 12:34 deezl though it would be nice for you to come play once in awhile :D 12:34 Zeno` I've become a hermit 12:35 Zeno` just like on Monty Python 12:35 Zeno` a hermit living in a community lol 12:35 deezl hehe 12:38 deezl oh, Zeno` there was a netsplit yesterday on Inchra, mtz is now speaking through osiris again 12:38 Zeno` hmm. I'll restart it 12:38 deezl oh its ok now 12:38 Zeno` oh :) 12:39 deezl it had been connecting through horus 12:39 Zeno` I didn't even know mtz could connect to that particular server 12:39 deezl I just moved it to osiris 12:39 Zeno` surprised it worked, but cool :) 12:40 deezl well, I pulled some tmux shenanigans and edited the .conf 12:40 deezl :D 12:41 Zeno` h4x0r! 12:41 deezl hehe, not really 12:41 Zeno` xD 12:44 deezl argh, gotta run, broken petrol stations all over the place 12:44 deezl cyas 14:26 zero-ghost hello evryone 14:26 zero-ghost can't believe i'm only just now hearing of the open source minecraft 14:26 coagen yep 14:26 coagen 5 years now 14:26 zero-ghost I wanna kick myself but goddamn thanks for making this if devs are listening 14:26 zero-ghost i got a little problem here 14:26 coagen what is the problem? 14:27 zero-ghost I run everything in sandboxie on windows, because well trust-no-software, and because i just want to play by myself for now I tell the minetest sandbox it cant touch the internet 14:27 zero-ghost but then i go to start the game locally and get "socket error" 14:28 zero-ghost sry specifically: ERROR: Some exception: "Failed to create socket" 14:28 coagen zero-ghost: well the program may be using local sockets to connect to itself 14:28 coagen as it is designed to be a network game 14:29 zero-ghost yea i figured that 14:29 zero-ghost so is there a way to work around it without having to let the sandbox call out to the internet 14:29 coagen is it allowed to open/create tcp/ip sockets/ports to localhost? 14:29 coagen hmm, I don't know if the problem is it trying to connect to the internet, I'm guessing just localhost? 14:30 zero-ghost i dont exactly know what sandboxie does when you choose to "block all programs" within a sandbox from accessing the internet 14:30 zero-ghost it probably does include loopback 14:32 Karlton zero-ghost: Minetest is free/libre software, you can view the source and compile it if you want. No need for sandbox. 14:32 zero-ghost i know all good, i also cant program yet so thats a no go 14:32 Karlton if your that paranoid I wouldn't be using windows in the first place 14:32 zero-ghost besides sandboxie just keeps the system and registry all clean anyway 14:33 zero-ghost ^ this more-so 14:33 zero-ghost i have no problem giving it internet, i just dont think i should have to 14:33 zero-ghost for just messing around locally 14:37 Karlton yeah I think it needs localhost 14:37 Karlton because it runs as a server 14:37 zero-ghost yea 14:41 twoelk zero-ghost: actually this shouldn't happen. Have you tried another maybe older build 14:47 zero-ghost nope jsut tried the latest 14:51 coagen why not just run it on manjaro, or any other linux distro you like? 14:52 Karlton the problem is the sandbox 14:53 Karlton it needs to run the server locally 14:55 Karlton idk how the window build I done, but I know you can compile it as a mobile version. So everything would run inside the source directory and not install anything 14:55 Karlton windows build is done* 14:55 zero-ghost i have to keep windows as my main because of a crazy hardware defect that freezes the computer while doing certain things, it will freeze on any OS it just freezes the least on win7 14:55 zero-ghost but yea i did run it in one of my linux VMs but it had internet so it ran fine 14:55 zero-ghost i just allowed it internet and of coarse it started 14:57 Karlton it only needs lan because I can run it without being connected to the internet 14:57 zero-ghost yea im sure it would run fine if i just used a firewall to deny it any kind of network access 14:58 zero-ghost but im guessing sandboxie doesnt let programs even create sockets 14:58 zero-ghost or just blocks loopback as well as any other connection 14:58 Karlton can't allow it for 127.0.0.1? 14:59 zero-ghost nah sandboxie doesnt have firewall like options 14:59 zero-ghost allow all, none, or certain exe's 15:00 zero-ghost on a sidenote im sure i was able to run minecraft like that before 15:00 zero-ghost or i'll just install minecraft in a new sandbox right now and try it 15:01 twoelk I just run some run-in-place version, mostly Krock's or sfan5's and even if I dissallow internet it simply works 15:03 zero-ghost where would i get those versions 15:04 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=42 <- have a look there 15:05 twoelk just the link from unofficial builds from the main page under download 15:07 twoelk you should be able to choose between at least 3 builds for windows and about almost a dozen flavours there 15:15 zero-ghost someone is some other IRC told me about terasology 15:15 zero-ghost bitter rivals? or does minetest work together with them? is one a fork of the other 15:15 coagen zero-ghost: it requires java 15:16 coagen zero-ghost: go ahead and run java :| 15:16 coagen if you trust it :| 15:16 zero-ghost :-p 15:16 zero-ghost so bitter rivals then 15:16 coagen haha 15:16 coagen I think not 15:16 coagen I just hate java 15:16 coagen terasology is really neat tho 15:16 coagen I really like the concept, and the graphics are amazing 15:16 zero-ghost windows only tho? 15:16 coagen I just wish it wasn't java 15:16 coagen nope 15:16 coagen runs fine on osx and linux 15:17 coagen afaik 15:17 zero-ghost but does it download anything from the server? 15:17 zero-ghost thats the problem with java is getting applets from some server and them running on your pc without knowing what theyre doing 15:18 zero-ghost if youre just running a client on your pc its the same as running c++ minetest without reviewing the source yourself 15:18 coagen zero-ghost: Don't think so... the package downloads a big jar, which "is" the client afaik 15:18 coagen err 15:18 coagen I mean 15:18 zero-ghost ah well yea in that case 15:18 coagen in the package is a big jar 15:18 zero-ghost however if you host your own server that problem also goes away 15:19 coagen each client can be a server, afaik 15:19 coagen same with mc,mt,etc 15:20 zero-ghost yea i guess i can see being cautious if your running a public server or something in that case 15:20 Karlton Does Fess provide the source for his build? what did he do to get Directx support? 15:20 zero-ghost but if its just you and your friends i dont think java makes any difference than c++ or anything else 15:22 twoelk java needs better hardware 15:22 twoelk mt runs well enough on older machines 15:23 zero-ghost anyone make any high deff packs for minetest? 15:24 zero-ghost for those of us for are graphics whores 15:24 twoelk try hdx from VanessaE iff you want to torture your pc 15:24 Karlton zero-ghost: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1583 15:27 twoelk afk 15:27 zero-ghost yikes 15:30 Megaf Folks, sometimes this happens a lot 15:30 Megaf 11:28:43: ACTION[ServerThread]: Player Zuruck tried to access [node under=10538,10574,10445 above=10539,10574,10445] from too far: d=599.346, max_d=140. ignoring. 15:30 Megaf What does it means? That the player has lag 15:30 Megaf ? 15:32 coagen they were too far away 15:32 coagen from the block? 15:32 coagen right? 15:33 Megaf I think the player had moved to somewhere 15:33 Megaf server is not aware of that, and when the player tries to interact, that happens 15:38 Zeno` it's a combination of lag and/or anti-cheat code 15:38 Zeno` (and the anti-cheat code is related to lag... so lag) 15:39 Zeno` well, unless they're really cheating :) 15:48 Megaf Zeno`: not cheating, and anti-cheat is disabled, or at least it should be 16:31 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Zeno- -> 03minetest/minetest: Update timestamp to include date 132641fcc http://git.io/jeEk (152015-03-25T02:30:17+10:00) 16:57 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Zeno- -> 03minetest/minetest: Change filename of screenshots to something more human readable 134fbcfac http://git.io/jeM3 (152015-03-25T02:55:28+10:00) 17:37 xenkey Hi 17:38 rubenwardy Hi all! 17:38 stormchaser3000 hi 18:24 Krock 04,12hello 18:24 Jordach hello m8 18:26 xenkey yo 18:54 Nihao Greetings, oh protectors of the cube! 18:54 Nihao Hope you are hungry :) 18:54 Nihao I have two more bugs to offer..... 18:54 Nihao a) Airtight Pipe entry/exit: attempt to place it causes server crash. 18:55 Nihao b) Spigot Outlet: Using screwdriver on it causes server crash. 18:55 Nihao Logs follow (thanks to -Kiba- we got this bug. He reproduced it systematically in singleplayer game) 18:55 Nihao http://pastebin.com/zvcVGJE3 18:56 rubenwardy VanessaE ^ 19:05 VanessaE Nihao: ok, will fix soon. 19:05 VanessaE G*d damned screwdriver mod is more trouble than it's worth >:-( 19:06 Jordach blame RBA for introducing multiaxis rotations 19:07 VanessaE Nihao: for now, for the airtight entry, uninstall pipeworks and go look at the coordinates where the failed place action occurred, remove all unknown nodes immediately adjacent, then reinstall pipeworks. 19:07 VanessaE (or just uninstall pipeworks and leave it out until I fix it) 19:08 VanessaE (or try the new_flow_logic branch, both of those bugs have already been fixed there) 19:12 Nihao VanessaE: Thanks for the fast reaction and advice. We chose solution 1. Had to kick 15 players.... 19:12 Nihao 2 is not an option: too many people use it 19:13 Nihao 3: I discuss that point with the admin. 19:13 Nihao Thanks a lot! 19:15 Nihao I am so sorry only coming here to talk about bugs :( actually, I like you guys :) 19:15 VanessaE Nihao: ok. reason for #1 is I'm guessing that the airtight fitting was probably placed next to an undefined node left over from some other mod 19:15 VanessaE oh it's no worry 19:19 Nihao VanessaE: I did not ask this question, but I know -Kiba-, the guy who was building what made the server crash. He would not have left a unknown item in his range :) 19:21 VanessaE odd. maybe a rotation glitch 19:21 VanessaE well anyway I'll fix it 23:54 * ipv6b adored the "Here is what I think about your password" comment :D (in a positive way)