Time Nick Message 00:45 Yves Im building a village, my village of 500 souls. But we choose to electrify all our transports. My question : 00:47 Yves What should be a correct texture pack and how to find and install it properly plz? 00:47 Yves VanessaE textures for example :P 00:48 Yves VanessaE: ^ 00:49 VanessaE HDX is good if you wanna use it :) 00:49 Yves How? 00:49 VanessaE how? what/ 00:49 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Silence Clang warning 13adfcdc5 http://git.io/pz6F (152015-03-10T20:47:52-04:00) 00:49 Yves How to install? 00:50 Yves Very sorry im new here 00:51 Yves how to grab and install properly your HDX pack plz Vanessa? 00:51 Yves VanessaE: ^ 00:51 VanessaE Oh 00:52 VanessaE what resolution do you want? 00:52 Yves plz hold 00:52 Yves 1600x900 00:52 VanessaE I meant HDX resolution 00:53 VanessaE 512px? 256? 00:53 VanessaE there are several sizes 00:53 VanessaE what you can run depends on your hardware 00:54 Yves my clients should are able for 1240x920 or something like that 00:54 Yves you want i verify? 00:54 VanessaE nono 00:54 VanessaE HDX comes in several sizes. 00:54 VanessaE which size do you want? 00:54 Yves plz hold 00:55 VanessaE my guess is a smaller size like 64px is probably bext 00:55 VanessaE best* 00:55 VanessaE since you're planning to point your clients at it 00:55 VanessaE download this: https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-64/zipball/master 00:55 Yves 1024x768 00:56 Yves okkikkk i see 64 then 00:56 Yves on int 00:56 Yves on it* 00:56 VanessaE unzip it. move it to /textures/ and name it "server" 00:56 VanessaE e.g. /textures/server/ 00:57 Yves good 00:57 Yves on it 00:58 Yves do i create textures if i dont have it? 00:58 Yves and a server dir under it? 00:59 Yves VanessaE: ^ 00:59 VanessaE create /textures/ if it doesn't exist, but server/ will be the name you give to the HDX folder therein 00:59 Yves i mean in .minetest dir 00:59 Yves good 00:59 VanessaE mv ~/Downloads/hdx-64 ~/.minetest/textures/server/ 00:59 VanessaE or similar 00:59 VanessaE don't mkdir server first, you need to actually rename the HDX folder. 01:00 Yves in my new "textures" dir. I rename VanessaE-hdx-64-182c510 to server. 01:01 Yves Right? 01:01 VanessaE yep 01:01 Yves trying 01:02 Yves Cute enough 01:02 Yves Thx alot Vanessa :) 01:03 VanessaE it works? 01:04 VanessaE :D 01:18 Yves VanessaE: Is very long for my client to get in. Is that normal. I know few about his graphic card. 01:18 Yves Shall i try a 32 before? 01:19 Yves or just tell him wait? 01:19 VanessaE tell the client not to use preload item visuals 01:19 VanessaE or tell them to wait 01:19 Yves He will wait 01:19 VanessaE (HDX64 is still pretty large, though how much is sent depends on how many mods you are running) 01:19 Yves i can see 01:20 Yves will tell you informed if you want 01:20 Yves keep* 01:20 VanessaE yeah 01:39 Yves VanessaE: Should I desactivate some mods in order my client get it faster, or if it will be as long as soon i will reactivate those mods. 01:39 Yves Example : 01:40 Yves I get this error message on my server log : 01:40 Yves Irrlicht log: Could not open file of texture: animalmaterials_egg_ent_mesh.png 01:41 VanessaE your MOBF is outdated. 01:41 VanessaE animal materials was merged into MOBF ages ago 01:42 Yves what mod should i choose for animals? 01:42 Yves and monsters? 01:42 Yves btw great job Vanessa 01:43 VanessaE MOBF is fine, carbone_mobs is good too 01:43 VanessaE thanks 01:44 Yves i got mobf into the game in Online mods repository 01:45 Yves i suppose im better to choose another way to get it? 01:45 est31 Yves, yes mods repo is broken 01:45 Yves now i can understand 01:46 est31 there is nobody actually reviewing those huge mods 01:46 Yves so i shall change my mods 01:46 est31 but mods can be dangerous 01:46 Yves Where to go then? 01:46 est31 download it manually 01:46 Yves where? 01:46 est31 there is a section in the forums for mods 01:46 Yves lemme look 01:46 Yves thx 01:47 est31 https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=11&sid=5fe7ecf27f3791ad798f7706c3bb3a60 02:12 Yves VanessaE: est31: All is looking good for now - im reinstalling mods as est31 said under Vanessa texture 02:12 Yves thx 02:12 Yves still on it 02:18 VanessaE Yves: ok 02:18 VanessaE bear in mind: some textures in HDX are out of date 02:19 VanessaE particularly stuff relating to mesh node models in pipeworks or homedecor 02:23 Yves VanessaE: thx 02:23 Yves will try to understand that 02:23 Yves ;) 02:24 VanessaE just look for objects that have bad images 02:24 VanessaE if the image is bad, just delete that image file from HDX and send me a forum pm or /msg me here 02:25 VanessaE bad doesn't mean no HDX image of course - but rather, looks like it was an HDX image but is all wrapped around wrong 02:29 Yves What mod will works good for carpets? You know? 02:29 Yves *work 02:30 VanessaE Jordach made one I think 02:30 Yves looking at 02:30 VanessaE or if you have moreblocks and gloopblocks, you can use the circular saw to cut wool into very thin slices to use as carpet 02:30 VanessaE (gloopblocks contains defs to add wool to the circular saw) 02:31 Yves also looking at this 02:35 Yves VanessaE: i found gloop (you made i think) but not moreblocks 02:36 VanessaE https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreblocks 02:36 VanessaE (forum thread: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=509 ) 02:36 VanessaE gloopblocks is, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4019 02:36 Yves thx 02:36 VanessaE (nekogloop made it originally, I maintain it now 02:36 VanessaE ) 02:44 Yves VanessaE: i see more things... but no carpet. What did i wrong? 02:44 Yves im playing in creative 02:45 VanessaE what did you install? 02:46 Yves moreblocks from calinou 02:46 Yves and gloop from you 02:46 VanessaE ok. find a circular/table saw in the inventory and place it 02:46 VanessaE find some wool, any color and put it in your inventory 02:47 VanessaE right click the saw and put some of that wool into the "input" slot 02:47 VanessaE in one of the lower rows, toward the right, take out the thinnest cut of "slab" that's offered. 02:48 Yves circular saw? 02:48 VanessaE yeah 02:49 VanessaE it's provided by moreblocks as part of its stairsplus component 02:49 VanessaE it's really a table saw :) 02:50 Yves i got a square table with a cube of wool on it 02:50 Yves i fear i made it wrong 02:51 VanessaE not ON it 02:51 VanessaE *in* it 02:51 VanessaE you have to right-click the table 02:51 VanessaE to bring up its inventory 02:51 VanessaE put the wool into the table saw's input slot 02:52 Yves VanessaE: Impressed 02:52 Yves Very 02:52 VanessaE works? 02:53 Yves very well 02:53 VanessaE good deal 02:53 Yves i fear this is enough for this nite 02:53 VanessaE there's always tomorrow :) 02:53 Yves thx again for all the work and help 02:53 Yves bye :) 02:53 VanessaE yw :) 02:53 VanessaE night 03:53 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: lua_api/l_mapgen: Fix overlapping areas of minetest.generate_ores/decorations 13b2b6bbf http://git.io/pgcJ (152015-03-11T03:36:39Z) 04:19 EndymionM Hi, I'm having a problem with MoreOres; I went to craft a gold pick, and it won't do it - and when I invoke giveme for moreores:pick_gold , it says that it doesn't exist. 04:22 VanessaE gold is part of the default engine now, but doesn't make tools anymore afaik. 04:22 VanessaE s/default engine/default game/ 04:22 VanessaE I guess it was decided that gold makes terrible tools :P 04:27 EndymionM Hrm, darn. But, would it break an existing world if I created a mod to add them back in, using the stats in the old_init.lua? 04:27 VanessaE you don't need to 04:27 VanessaE worst that'll happen is a few users will have some unknown items in their inventories. 04:28 VanessaE as far as I know, there are already aliases in the current game to handle the old item/node names for the ingots, lumps, blocks, and ores 04:28 VanessaE (copper was also moved into the default game) 04:30 EndymionM On the world in question, there are no other users. 04:30 VanessaE ok, so there's no real worry then :) 04:31 VanessaE if you're really concerned, you could throw together a small mod to alias all the gold tools to something else that still exists, such as silver 04:32 VanessaE (that would be four aliases, trivial to do, and you could tack them onto the bottom of moreores' init.lua or something probably if you want) 04:35 EndymionM Honestly, since the mod still includes the gold tool textures, I'd want them to be their own items. But I think I'm following you. 04:35 VanessaE huh. kinda surprised Calinou never deleted them :) 04:37 EndymionM For me, pleasantly so. 04:44 EndymionM Wait... the tools are still defined in the init.lua, and the recipes refer to moreores:gold_ingot. How can I check the itemstring of an item in my inventory? 04:45 VanessaE I don't think you can in the default game 04:45 EndymionM Criminy. 04:45 VanessaE however, there were supposed to be aliases in place 04:45 VanessaE so the recipes should have worked 04:48 EndymionM Well, let me try disabling and re-enabling the mod (since that worked with the damage glitch I ran into before in the same world) 04:48 VanessaE huh. seems they were dropped some time ago 04:48 VanessaE there used to be an external_legacy mod. 04:49 VanessaE dropped at commit 8bf344e461b01ee8402a43053481141c21a3e51e 04:49 VanessaE April 16, 2014 04:49 VanessaE wow, that HAS been a while. 04:50 EndymionM Oh goody. 04:54 EndymionM So if we assume for the moment that the gold ingots in my inventory are in fact from default: and not moreores: (which is logical, as the game should override the mod)... I'd need to modify the crafts in moreores to use default:gold_ingot rather than moreores:""? 04:56 EndymionM Is it that simple and painless? Or is there something wonkier that will have to happen? 04:56 VanessaE yep 04:56 VanessaE it would be as obvious as it seems 04:58 VanessaE that said, I don't see defs in the current moreores for gold...anything 04:58 VanessaE though the textures still exist 04:58 EndymionM Has it been updated since 2/21? 04:59 VanessaE current commit is from march 2, 2015 04:59 VanessaE https://gitorious.org/calinou/moreores 05:00 EndymionM Ah, yep. I snagged it literally the Saturday before the gold tools went the way of the dodo. 05:01 VanessaE you musta got it from the old github repo then 05:01 VanessaE hm, no 05:01 VanessaE that's not right 05:02 VanessaE no commits from February (of any year) in the whole log, in my copy 05:03 EndymionM Well, I'm just telling you when I downloaded it, the commit was probably before that. 05:03 VanessaE no worries :) 05:03 EndymionM Yup. 05:04 VanessaE anyway better you should update to the latest one, and alias the gold tools -> silver ones or something 05:06 EndymionM Or, before I update just copy the stats either from the one I have, append it to the current one with the changes, and run with that. Then reinstall; and it shouldn't break my world. I have a house (and a toilet :-p) I'm rather proud of. And if I want to create tin tools, I can have moreores be a depend and create them similarly? 05:23 * EndymionM is trying to figure this out... 05:25 VanessaE or fetch the external_legacy mod from an old copy of minetest_game 05:25 VanessaE that would be easiest 05:27 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/tree/a32751800cefec68beb9d4fb3f99fee326b37475/mods/external_legacy 05:27 VanessaE this should get you pretty close 05:30 EndymionM Okay, I can't just get a zipball... how on Earth do I get this? 05:31 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/tree/a32751800cefec68beb9d4fb3f99fee326b37475/mods/external_legacy 05:31 VanessaE this is the very last commit available before it was removed btw 05:31 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/archive/a32751800cefec68beb9d4fb3f99fee326b37475.zip 05:31 VanessaE there's the zipball 05:31 VanessaE download that, copy mods/external_legacy out of it and put it in your current game, see if it works 05:32 VanessaE no guarantees :) 05:32 VanessaE should work though, it's just a bunch of register_alias() calls for the moreores and diamonds mods. 05:33 VanessaE it does not, however, do anything with the missing gold tools 05:33 VanessaE so you'll still need to add aliases for those to point to something suitable (this mod should suffice as a place to add them) 05:34 EndymionM Or just use the minetest register_craft function, since Calinou did before. 05:34 VanessaE in that case, you need not do anything at all 05:34 VanessaE if you're gonna keep your outdated version of moreores 05:34 VanessaE just install that external_legacy mod 05:34 VanessaE and the moreores recipes should just work 05:35 EndymionM Well, I can just add them from old_init.lua, then throw external_legacy in, and poof, it all works like it did. 05:35 VanessaE you could try that, but it may not work - moreores got a huge rewrite not long ago 05:35 VanessaE worth a shot though 05:42 EndymionM I saw that. But as far as the engine cares, minetest.register_tool and minetest.register_craft still work, right? 05:44 EndymionM Okay. Golden Pickaxe worked. yay. 05:45 VanessaE yep, the standard functions will still work fine 05:46 VanessaE I was just thinking of the case where the old code might have relied on some moreores-specific function 05:46 VanessaE (or table, etc) 05:49 EndymionM Nope, just the textures, thankfully. 05:49 VanessaE ok 05:49 VanessaE sounds like you might want to send Calinou a pull request to reinstate those old tools then 05:50 VanessaE (and copy the aliases back into moreores to suit)( 05:55 EndymionM Wouldn't be a bad idea, frankly. 06:00 EndymionM But, thank you again for the help... because I tend to avoid programming or scripting whenever possible. I did BASIC back in the TRS-80 CoCo days, then HTML & CSS... but generally not my thing anymore. 06:01 VanessaE well Minetest has got you now ;) 06:01 VanessaE you've been sucked into the bottomless pit of modding ;) 06:02 EndymionM The scary thing about that... is that you're right :-P 06:03 VanessaE heh 06:11 EndymionM But I do need sleep now. Or else no money. No money, no internet... no way to upload any mods I write :-P 06:13 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Mgv6: Fix uninitialised heightmap used by cavegen 1329e46d6 http://git.io/pgPF (152015-03-11T06:04:07Z) 08:10 Samat hi! 09:59 JamesTait Good morning all; happy World Plumbing Day! :-D 10:00 * VanessaE tosses some pipeworks pipes into the channel 10:01 JamesTait \o/ 10:01 JamesTait Hey, VanessaE. How're you? 10:01 VanessaE tired and sleepless but otherwise ok :) 10:02 JamesTait Welcome to my Monday. ;) 10:25 srifqi does MESE block make signal (or pulse or power) in mesecons? 10:26 VanessaE it can transfer a signal like a wire 10:26 Dartmouth I think it only conducts 10:26 VanessaE but it does not itself make any signal. 10:26 srifqi only conducts? hmm... 10:26 srifqi okay rebuild 10:27 srifqi the circuit 10:28 srifqi wait, how about mesecons torch? does it? 10:28 VanessaE a mesecons torch is like an inverter 10:28 VanessaE works similar to a redstone torch 10:29 VanessaE when fed no signal, a mesecons torch will be "on" (since it interprets a no-signal as "off" and inverts it) 10:29 srifqi okay, got it 10:30 srifqi are MESE ores rare for you? 10:31 VanessaE mese is supposed to be somewhat uncommon, yeah 10:31 srifqi so, for you, is it MORE precious than diamond? 10:33 srifqi 17 test 10:33 srifqi  another test 10:34 srifqi ah, didn't works 10:34 srifqi sorry 10:36 VanessaE idk which one is more rare, I don't do much mining 10:36 VanessaE (I usually play creative) 10:37 ThatGraemeGuy mese starts being found around -64, whereas you only find diamond starting around -128 10:37 ThatGraemeGuy so from normal ground level until around -256 you would find more mese overall 10:37 srifqi ah, btw VanessaE, i was enjoying your creative server when accidentally i destroyed a button ans then lag and then crashed 10:38 srifqi still not go there till now 10:38 srifqi ThatGreameGuy: do you mean below y:-256? 10:38 ThatGraemeGuy below -256 mese is slightly more common than diamond, but not so significant that you'd notice 10:39 srifqi yes it is 10:39 srifqi but luckiness decidea 10:39 srifqi decides* 10:39 ThatGraemeGuy yes ores are not uniform like they used to be 10:40 srifqi not same as real life 10:40 ThatGraemeGuy used to be that in a 100x100x100 section you be likely to find more or less the same amount of mese and diamond 10:40 srifqi btw, is this channel is Minetest-related only? 10:40 ThatGraemeGuy but it was changed a few months ago so now in that same patch you might find no diamonds at all 10:41 srifqi ThatGraemeGuy, ^^ 10:42 sfan5 srifqi: this channel is minetest only, but off-topic discussions are not uncommon 10:43 srifqi sfan5: okay, btw, are you a cat? many users say that 10:43 sfan5 meow 10:44 srifqi meow meow, meow meow meow? 10:44 sfan5 meow, meow. 10:51 srifqi *just finished take a bath 10:52 srifqi cats don't like take a bath, right? 10:53 gorilla srifqi: true. but most "cats" are intrigued by flowing water. 10:53 * gorilla throws the cat into the shower to find out. 10:53 srifqi flowing only? 10:53 srifqi XD 10:53 gorilla oops. I meant to put quotes around the word most. 10:54 srifqi okay, 10:55 srifqi if flowing only, then how if i throw cat to lake? 10:55 srifqi sfan5: are you male or female cat? 10:56 sfan5 uh 10:56 sfan5 i don't know 10:57 srifqi let me check 10:57 srifqi !gender sfan5 10:57 srifqi XD 10:58 srifqi hello MinetestBot 10:58 MinetestBot Hello srifqi 11:29 srifqi sfan5 aka meow 11:33 srifqi Wuzzy 11:33 Wuzzy Meow. 11:33 Wuzzy hi you 11:33 srifqi lol 11:33 srifqi hello 11:34 srifqi still not finished for Indonesian translation :( 11:34 srifqi argh.. where is my free time?! 11:36 srifqi Wuzzy: the idea for adding mapgem flags to create world dialog is nice! 11:36 srifqi mapgen* 11:36 Wuzzy I agree. 11:36 Wuzzy It is not a new idea, actually. 11:37 srifqi yes not a new idea 12:18 srifqi Wuzzy, how is your tutorial? 12:19 Wuzzy what do you mean? 12:19 Wuzzy its fine, I guess? lol 12:20 srifqi oh, hope i can continue translating it 12:20 srifqi to Indonesian 12:24 srifqi est31, how're you? 12:24 est31 good 12:24 est31 & u? 12:25 srifqi fine ty 12:25 srifqi can an irc user uses 2 client? 12:26 est31 I guess so 12:26 srifqi let me try 12:27 est31 with the same nick or different nicks? 12:27 est31 same nick needs znc 12:27 est31 different nicks work fine without that 12:27 est31 znc or smuxi or quassel or whatever 12:27 srifqi failed :( changing client 12:29 srifqi est31, it failed 12:29 srifqi using laptop now 12:30 srifqi est31? 12:30 est31 yes? 12:30 srifqi est31: ^ ^ ^ 12:31 est31 ok fine 12:31 srifqi Wuzzy, still there? 12:32 srifqi est31: got it? 12:32 est31 what 12:32 Wuzzy ?????????????????????? 12:32 srifqi est31: Wuzzy: nvm 12:32 srifqi just wondering what are you doing that always connected to irc 12:33 Wuzzy I am lurking, like on most other channels. 12:33 est31 you can use remote clients 12:33 Wuzzy but sometimes I talk 12:33 Wuzzy I am not always connected to IRC, however 12:35 srifqi oh, that's why sometimes i asking something, 12:35 srifqi no reply until more than 1 hour 12:35 srifqi :( 12:36 srifqi Wuzzy, what is "Verlassend"? 12:37 Wuzzy The German expression for “Leaving” 12:38 srifqi oh, *writing in notes 12:39 Wuzzy btw is an useful dictionary 12:39 srifqi *opening 12:39 srifqi ~source 12:39 ShadowBot My source is at https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria -- Custom plugins are at https://github.com/ShadowNinja/Limnoria-plugins 12:40 srifqi Wuzzy, what does "Deutsch-Englisch-Wörterbuch" means? 12:40 srifqi "Wörterbuch" 12:40 Wuzzy oops 12:40 Wuzzy forget it 12:41 srifqi what does it means? 12:42 FreeFull Word book 12:42 Wuzzy sorry, wrong URL 12:42 FreeFull Probably dictionary 12:42 Wuzzy http://www.dict.cc/?l=e 12:43 Wuzzy It means “dictionary” http://www.dict.cc/?s=W%C3%B6rterbuch 12:47 srifqi oh, so i opened a deustch site 12:49 srifqi btw, when will minetest has 0.4.12 official build in ALL OS? 12:50 srifqi est31: ^ 12:53 srifqi sfan5: ^^^ 13:15 sfan5 srifqi: no idea 13:15 sfan5 srifqi: currently only android is missing 13:15 sfan5 and the ppa for some reason 13:15 srifqi only android? 13:15 srifqi so, the ubuntu/debian has released? 13:19 srifqi sfan5: ^^^^ 13:19 sfan5 and the ppa for some reason 13:19 sfan5 that is also missing 13:19 srifqi also? :( 13:19 sfan5 we don't have control over the official debian/ubuntu repositories 13:19 srifqi then who control it? 13:20 srifqi then who control them (repos)? 13:20 sfan5 the respective maintainers 13:20 srifqi explain 13:22 sfan5 the minetest packages for ubuntu are not maintained by us but by someone else 13:25 srifqi have you contact them? 13:28 sfan5 no 13:30 srifqi but, do you know how to contact them? 13:33 srifqi sfan5: ^ 13:33 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Unescape tooltip texts 13140245a http://git.io/paiX (152015-03-11T14:33:07+01:00) 13:34 sfan5 srifqi: yes 13:34 srifqi good to know 13:35 srifqi meow: which script that does chat when there is a commit to minetest/minetest? 13:35 srifqi sfan5: ^ 13:43 sfan5 srifqi: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/rssnotify.py 13:43 srifqi ah, why I forget about rss? 13:43 srifqi thanks 13:57 srifqi Jordach: evening, hi 13:58 Jordach OW 13:59 Jordach i can't turn my neck right :( (it hurts like crazy) 14:01 srifqi wat? 14:02 Jordach srifqi, the muscle ij=n my neck hurts 14:02 srifqi oh, 15:41 luizrpgluiz hi all 15:44 ekem hello! 15:45 luizrpgluiz hello ekem 15:51 ekem hows it going luizrpgluiz 15:53 luizrpgluiz ekem: I was studying some mapgen, flatland 15:54 luizrpgluiz ekem: and you? 16:05 ekem finding minima and maxima to rational functions :\ 17:00 racam_ Hi, sometimes when i started a map, I got no texture. When I lookup the "--info" trace I found many RE-SENDING timed-out and finally : "INFO[ConnectionSend]: con(1216/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 3 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)" 17:00 racam_ does someone have an idea ? 18:25 nrzkt /msg MemoServ READ NEW 18:26 nrzkt opps sorry :) 18:26 nrzkt Krock i'm closing it. 18:26 Krock xD 18:26 Krock okay 18:27 nrzkt it's a pure troll. there is no proof, the only proof i see is Zeno` bug report and i fixed it. 18:29 Calinou https://notabug.org/mirror/minetest 18:29 Calinou heh 18:29 Calinou trying out organizations and migration 18:31 nrzkt what is the benefit ? 18:32 VanessaE greetz all. 18:32 Calinou hi 18:39 * Calinou installed Shumway, to make the copy button working on that page 19:16 Xack hey Calinou :) 19:17 Calinou hi Xack 19:51 kodmaster23 hey guys, I behind a HTTP proxy from my "work" here in huehuebrbr and I was just wondering, it's possible to connect to a server hosted with 8080 ports, is there a way to auth to a http proxy within the minetest client? 19:52 Krock minetest is not http 19:53 Warr1024 minetest runs over UDP, which can't be proxied over an HTTP proxy 19:53 Jordach if it filters UDP then no, you can't 19:53 kodmaster23 :cccccc 19:54 kodmaster23 thanks, so it's singleplayer all day haha 19:56 kodmaster23 I was thinking to use something like widecap with the option to traverse UDP proto, but WideCap doesn't recognises minetest.exe :/ 19:56 kodmaster23 But thanks guys :) 19:58 Warr1024 tunneling udp over tcp is actually something I've been meaning to find a solution for, in general... 19:59 Krock lovely. most tunneling services use UDP for their TCP packets :3 20:00 Krock JeDaYoshi, how do you invite someone in a room? 20:01 JeDaYoshi ? 20:01 Warr1024 TCP over UDP is usually not a bad thing, since TCP already provides reliable transport, and already runs over one datagram protocol (IP) 20:01 Warr1024 UDP over TCP is tricky, because TCP will cause performance issues if packets are lost 20:01 Krock - JeDaYoshi has invited you to #forumdreamz 20:02 JeDaYoshi ah 20:02 JeDaYoshi just /invite nick 20:02 Krock oh, didn't know about that :3 20:47 justas2 can someone help me??? create a server 20:50 justas2 cam someone help me please? 20:50 Builder123 Hi Justas just logged on irc 20:50 justas2 i know but i need help 20:51 Builder123 if its technical - Im not the guy 20:51 justas2 no its about the server (how to create an server) 20:51 Builder123 yes I created a server 20:52 justas2 how 20:53 Builder123 there are a couple of links I can give you - how? Simple: modify your minetest.conf file with the server information. To run just run minetestserver with the appropriate options (like which world to use) 20:54 Builder123 Let me get that bookmark - I promise you can get one running in less than an hour (But - I do not port forward - mine is private on my homes lan) 20:55 Builder123 brb 20:56 Builder123 http://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server 20:57 Builder123 thats one - Im trying to find the one I used - are you on windows? 20:58 justas2 dont know but this pc is Asus 20:59 Builder123 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8924 20:59 justas2 its windows brb 20:59 Builder123 this is the one I used 20:59 justas2 it is 20:59 justas2 windows 20:59 Builder123 ok use the last link and read it 20:59 Builder123 [Guide] Create and maintain a server on Windows 21:00 Builder123 The reason I cant go public is because I'm on dsl - there is no cable service - my TV comes in from satellite 21:00 justas2 cant make it its my mum's broken battery pc 21:01 Builder123 ow 21:01 justas2 it has an X on a battery so i have to charge it every day 21:01 justas2 it hasnt spilled yet 21:01 Builder123 needs replacing - that battery is exhausted 21:01 justas2 yea 21:02 justas2 Windows defender needs to scan my mum's computer 21:02 Builder123 I have a spare phone with that problem - runs only if its plugged in - replacement battery not worth the cost (the phone was a gift) 21:03 luizrpgluiz hi all 21:03 justas2 i wont scan it yet my dad will scan it little while 21:03 Builder123 OK defender is good to have 21:03 Builder123 ok 21:03 justas2 yea 21:03 Builder123 are u kicked or banned? I see you are not playing 21:03 justas2 Hi luizrpgluiz 21:04 Builder123 I was playing Ocean Experiment - but the server is down 21:04 Builder123 that is one tough server to get started on 21:04 luizrpgluiz justas2: hi 21:05 Builder123 Justas do you have this under control? 21:05 justas2 what do you mean under controll? 21:06 Builder123 I was going to sign off unless you need me to stick around 21:06 Builder123 Like you can read and follow the instructions 21:06 justas2 yea 21:07 Builder123 ok Ill leave this up and running and check it periodically 21:10 justas2 this is really hard 21:11 Builder123 ok - if you want to go public - I cant help you - routers are set up differently from model to model - but in at home server just follow the instructions forsetting up the server - not so hard 21:12 Builder123 let me look at that page 21:12 Builder123 Sokomine r u there? 21:13 justas2 hes here i think 21:13 Builder123 k 21:13 justas2 not away 21:13 Builder123 ok Skip to step 3 21:13 justas2 yep 21:14 Builder123 Step 3 will let you set up a server - this is not hard 21:16 Trixar_za It's harder on Linux with no GUI 21:16 Trixar_za :P 21:17 Builder123 Running the server is not hard. I got mine running and then I logged into the server on 2 different devices (a phone and my tablet - the Linux laptop was my server - it works - I had 3 players in my singleplayer world. 21:17 Builder123 Linux was a piece of cake without GUI 21:18 Builder123 MT is so simple - in fact you can use the windows instructions (I did) to set up a server. 21:18 Builder123 ...on linux 21:18 Trixar_za Really? Empty world with the addition of mods? I had to learn about which files to edit 21:18 justas2 when you done step 2 how im gonna do the code copy on that??? 21:18 est31 if you need to edit files in order to add mods, then you are using the hardest method 21:19 est31 just copy your mods into the worldmods dir and be happy 21:19 est31 hi builder :) 21:19 Trixar_za world's can have a mods directory? 21:20 Trixar_za I just modify the world.mt file after dropping the mods in the mods directory in the main folder 21:20 Builder123 Mods directory can be placed in the specific World that u want the mod to work in 21:20 Trixar_za And you guys are only telling me this NOW? 21:21 est31 I don't know why this isnt the default option 21:22 est31 perhaps with symlinks to the mods folder instead of stupid world.mt 21:22 Builder123 I can just drop mods into the singleplayer folder (andriod) or the specific subgame for windows or linx - they are automatically added to your game (of course as long as the mod is not corrupted) 21:23 devmarth hey 21:23 Builder123 Ok but then you lose control of which mods you want to work for a specific game 21:23 Builder123 est!!! 21:24 Builder123 The location of the mod can be global or specific - I have barebones games as well as one with mesecons and digiline, another with home decor 21:25 asie sometihng that might interest you: BuildCraft 7 is having all its textures redrawn, and the new ones will likely be under CC BY-SA or something similar 21:26 Builder123 Trixar - that mt modification is something that can be avoided - you're making it too hard 21:26 Trixar_za Nobody told me otherwise so that's how I figured out how to do it 21:26 Trixar_za :P 21:28 Builder123 Ok there is information for installing mods in the forum - but it shows you the directory structure - once you see the diagram, it will fall into place 21:28 twoelk http://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Mods 21:28 Calinou asie, which version of CC BY-SA? shouldn't be 2.0 (not DFSG-compliant) 21:28 Calinou at least 2.5 21:28 Builder123 Twoelk to the rescue! 21:28 asie Calinou: probably 3.0 21:28 asie or 4.0 21:29 twoelk hi Builder123 21:29 asie another interesting idea to look into: write a new pipeworks 21:29 justas2 maybe ill do it tommorow 21:29 asie might do it if I need another break from MC modding 21:29 Builder123 Hi 2e whats up with Ocean Experiment? 21:29 luizrpgluiz I learned how to install mods on their own 21:29 twoelk dont know 21:30 Builder123 Justas Step 3 wasnt bad was it? 21:30 Builder123 I tried to log into O.E. and started at connecting to server..... 21:30 Builder123 stared... 21:30 * twoelk has just spent some time trying to rescue the family servermap from a fire out of control 21:31 Builder123 hehe 21:31 justas2 i as trying to do it but i dont know were to text the code 21:31 Builder123 I hate lava and fire 21:31 justas2 Huh? 21:32 Builder123 justas you must open the minetest.conf with notepad (preferred) or wordpad 21:32 justas2 oh 21:33 justas2 i dont have that 21:33 Builder123 What windows version r u running? 21:33 twoelk interesting when the meaning of consequenses dawn on the kids as there is no undo function (so I'm telling them) 21:33 justas2 i got Windows 7 21:34 devmarth hm 21:34 twoelk burnt server is burnt server 21:34 twoelk justas2 you have 21:34 Builder123 Try this - hit the windows key and the letter 'r' at the same time -- it will say 'Run' and enter notepad in the window then hit ok 21:35 Builder123 twoelk one spoon at a time 21:36 twoelk haven't offered any spoon yet 21:36 Builder123 I had to modify my tree room - glass and papyrus is too fragile when harvesting wood 21:37 Builder123 :) 21:37 twoelk :-) 21:37 justas2 :( i had to go 21:37 justas2 bye 21:37 Builder123 By Justas catch u on mtzeno 21:38 Builder123 twoelk - I guess computer experience I have - just helped my son clean up his cpu cabinet eariler today 21:39 Builder123 Nothing like fresh thermal compound to ensure stable cpu operation 21:40 Builder123 2e - I found the voxelgarden forum - the closest thing to O.E. do you know who can update on server status? 21:42 Builder123 OE still down... 21:49 Builder123 looks too quiet here.... 21:57 twoelk it's Casimir's server and he lives in Europe if I remember correctly, so he might be going to sleep soon 22:54 TheFox Hey all, I was wondering if someone in here knew anything about 0.4.12 coming out in the stable Ubuntu PPA? Much appreciated. 22:56 est31 sfan5: ^ 23:05 TheFox Judging from the logs, it looks like someone asked about that earlier today, and it was said that the PPA is separately maintained. It was asked if the maintainers were contacted yet at the time, and the answer then was no though the devs have the info to contact them. 23:07 est31 ShadowNinja, do you have control over the stable releases ppa? 23:07 est31 because you are listed as team member: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs 23:08 ShadowNinja est31: Yes, but I don't really know how to use LP. :-P 23:09 TheFox xD 23:09 est31 lol 23:16 TheFox If someone could maybe contact the other PPA team members about it, I'd be very grateful. :) 23:17 est31 told c55 and PilzAdam 23:18 TheFox Thank you, est31. :) 23:23 iio7 When compiling from 0.5.0-dev the server version still prints as 0.4.12, is this normal or have I compiled the wrong version? 23:24 iio7 I checked out 0.5.0-dev before compiling, at least I believe I did. 23:26 est31 it is possible 23:26 est31 I'm not sure 23:35 est31 http://pastebin.com/XpR3mKM0 23:35 est31 got this when I did //load schem 23:36 est31 why is it happening? 23:36 est31 I can only reproduce it on a production server 23:36 est31 it makes the situation more delicate