Time Nick Message 00:06 whtemple1959 ok I am back. I see est31 has left I will look into all of the advice and do my best. it will not be the first time I broke my system as I am teaching myself Linux, C++ and python in hopes of making a game for my son. VanessaE I see your comment, I would love to discuss my psycosis with you in private some time. 00:07 whtemple1959 I am off to compile...be back later. 00:21 * tim_flatus is writing a song fot paramat and hmmmm called "You b0rked ma mapgen (but it looks so good I may have to forgive you)" 00:21 hmmmm I stopped working on minetest 00:21 hmmmm more specifically I stopped working on the mapgen months ago 00:22 tim_flatus I know 00:22 tim_flatus But I thought you deserved a song 00:32 tim_flatus I'm trying to think of interesting things to do with box cliffs right now :p 00:38 Pulec just discoverd mmdb 00:38 Pulec #minetest-mmdb is almost empty though 00:46 tim_flatus /deleteblocks is having some very weird effects. Probably because it doesn't really delete it just overwrites. I could set each block to air first, but there is a point where you have to ask yourself "can I be arsed?" 00:47 VanessaE no, it actually deletes. 00:47 tim_flatus It'll give the players something to ask questions about 00:47 VanessaE but it invokes the mapgen too 00:47 tim_flatus Are you sure? 00:47 VanessaE which will affect the mapblocks surrounding the deleted block 00:47 VanessaE yep, I am sure 00:47 VanessaE I've played around with it in my test world 00:48 tim_flatus I have lots of half-buried trees, some of them inside new mountains. 00:48 VanessaE that's the mudflow code probably kicking in 00:48 tim_flatus Right 01:00 tim_flatus In which case I do have to fix my mapgen now. Durn. 01:03 ekem how much saturation is taking place to get this mud to flow in such extremes 01:03 ekem i just dont get it 01:03 ekem must be always raining with very little vegetation in these worlds 01:03 ekem sounds like unstable regolith. 01:15 tim_flatus Right, that's much cleaner - minetest.clear_registered_biomes() 01:16 Pulec well 256MB vps is unreal to use as a server 01:18 ekem yes 01:18 ekem for almost any setup other than simple web services with low traffic 01:18 ekem ie mail server, website that sort of thing 01:18 ekem you are going to need at least 512 for a couple player server, and 1 gig for > 5 most likely 01:18 ekem even then don't expect too great of results 01:19 Pulec well but it could work for few users 01:19 Pulec I guess its still better then with java 01:19 Pulec we have 32gigs on our community server 01:32 Pulec heh i broke minetestmapper 01:32 Pulec kept moving while it was rendering 04:18 Greycoat VanessaE: thought I'd let you know that your spawn-shop/travelnet exchange area protection on VE-S is slightly off. The result is nobody can place shops/travelnets. 04:19 VanessaE ok, I'll yell at cheapie. he maintains that building 04:19 cheapie Meeble? 04:19 cheapie I thought I had that right, but I'll take a look later tonight. 04:23 VanessaE haha 04:24 VanessaE that's one way to get his attention :) 04:24 cheapie HexChat plays a sound and pops up a notification when I'm highlighted or receive a PM. 04:26 cheapie That then makes for an interesting situation when my connection dies for no reason and ZNC tries to reconnect every 30 seconds, PMing me every time. 04:26 cheapie Ding!......Ding!.......Ding!.......Ding!..... 04:29 Greycoat VanessaE, cheapie (ding ding): nevermind about the area protection -- I didn't realize how precise it was. It's correct after all. Sorry! 04:29 cheapie Heh, that's what I thought. 04:29 cheapie I protected it *very* precisely after issues with people digging holes in the ceiling. 04:31 cheapie Also, by the way, the #minetest on InchraNet is where stuff about VE's servers is generally discussed. This one is more for the game in general, although it's probably fine here too. 04:33 * Greycoat wonders how to connect his client to both morgan and intranet at the same time. 04:34 Greycoat Because I can't get on #minetest-technic when on InchraNet, and I didn't realize thereare *two* #minetest's. 04:35 cheapie Blech, Quassel. 04:35 cheapie I don't have much experience with it, sorry. 04:35 Greycoat Hey! 04:35 Greycoat Okay. 04:36 cheapie I use HexChat combined with ZNC, which does the same thing, only better. 04:44 Bluebird Okay, *that's* not working. 04:44 Greycoat Ya think? 04:44 Bluebird pffff 04:45 Greycoat Begone, clone! 05:05 paramat i'm attempting to improve the biome api by re-calculating the biome at every new surface within a column. my branch compiles but segfaults https://github.com/paramat/minetest/commit/f03d22094ef23f243ce7eaaf8d49cabca9ca4d46 can anyone check my code? hi hmmmm any help is appreciated but not expected =) 06:35 hmmmm paramat: i'm so glad you're taking initiative on that! it's great to know that the biome system will eventually be finished 06:35 hmmmm honestly that's something I wanted to do but I really can't stand minetest anymore 06:36 hmmmm first thing to look at is line 579. you have a shadow declaration of biome inside of that block 06:36 hmmmm that's an obvious mistake 06:37 hmmmm second, you don't need to look up the Biome * to get the id to look up the same Biome * again by id :-) 06:37 hmmmm third, you initialize biome to NULL at the top of that block. how can you be guaranteed that c != CONTENT_IGNORE, CONTENT_AIR, and have air? 06:38 hmmmm most likely that third issue is what's causing the segmentation fault 06:38 hmmmm you should rethink your loop logic 08:46 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Rename --do-unittests to --run-unittests as @Zeno- and @sfan5 requested 13b4acac7 http://git.io/A1oA (152015-02-24T08:56:52+01:00) 09:49 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Single Tasking Day! :-D 09:50 VanessaE heh, ironic it should be that. 09:50 VanessaE I just tweaked one of my scripts to increase its thread count from 2 to 6. 09:54 JamesTait Heh. :) 09:55 JamesTait You don't happen to have a script that will stay one step ahead of the weather, and bring the washing in just before it starts raining? :-P 10:01 VanessaE nope. 10:01 * VanessaE looks at the 7 cm of snow outside. don't suppose you have one that'll melt this? there's more coming. 10:02 VanessaE (for this locale, that's a significant amount, though hardly crippling) 10:18 OldCoder VanessaE, R U asleep 10:18 OldCoder U ought 2 B 10:18 OldCoder U 8 2 B 10:19 VanessaE I'm here 10:19 VanessaE can't sleep 13:21 Neolink5 hello 13:21 Neolink5 haw i can protect area? 13:26 Neolink5 anyone 13:30 VanessaE use Areas mod 13:30 VanessaE or Landrush mod 13:30 VanessaE or there are others 13:56 Neolink5 where i can read how to use the atea mod? 13:56 Neolink5 areas* 13:58 Neolink5 Here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7239&hilit=areas din't whrote about commands 15:17 shadowzone Hello, PilzAdam. 15:55 tim_flatus I need to decide whether to continue my v7 map cleanup or generate a new world on the same seed and attempt to copy the builds and player data over. Both options look like at least a couple of days work. 15:57 ElectronLibre Have you got the mg mod installed? 15:58 tim_flatus No, I'm using a modified version of paragenv7 15:59 tim_flatus And just upgraded a map begun on 0.4.10 to 0.4.12 15:59 ElectronLibre Ok, so there is no real way you can regenerate a part of the map. Are the builds big? 16:00 tim_flatus The game is about a month old. The builds don't tend to be big, just very scattered. 16:01 tim_flatus I'm basically fixing up the map using /deleteblocks, although I'm close to creating a customised version of it for this process 16:01 ElectronLibre Ok, maybe you can build a new map, and copy the buildings. If there aren't many, it should work. 16:02 domtron who is a forum moderator besides VanessaE (she doesn't seem to be on) 16:02 * ElectronLibre never tried deletblocks but will give it a try. 16:02 tim_flatus There are complications to do with my development schedule (lol) - this has basically brought up issues with my mapgen which I need to deal with. 16:03 tim_flatus Be careful, try it on a test map. 16:03 ElectronLibre I only have test maps. 16:03 tim_flatus :-) 16:03 ElectronLibre It's been a while since I really played. 16:04 tim_flatus I'm close to deciding to continue the patch up as a temporary measure. 16:05 tim_flatus And then build a new map once I've got the mapgen fixed. That way I can get back online within a couple of days. Most of my players don't explore that mush. 16:05 tim_flatus Much. Interesting typo 16:06 * ElectronLibre search what is mush. 16:06 * ElectronLibre found. 16:06 ElectronLibre Yes, interesting. :) 16:06 tim_flatus Then I can find out what I can achieve with worldedit and the few remaining box-cliffs 16:07 tim_flatus So long as I can find an in-game justification for the anomalies, it's not a big problem ;-) 16:09 tim_flatus That was my initial interest in Minetest - I had long wanted to find a 3d visual equivalent of MUSH. Minetest is it. 16:10 tim_flatus potentially at least. 16:10 ElectronLibre Oh I thought you meant the real meaning of mush but ok. 16:10 tim_flatus No, the Lydia Leong sense. 16:11 tim_flatus IIR her name correctly. 16:12 ElectronLibre Oh my voxels. 16:12 ElectronLibre Deleteblocks regenerates the map? 16:13 tim_flatus Yes, it deletes the block from the database (I think) and so triggers mapgen. 16:14 tim_flatus So the map doesn't regenerate until someone goes there. 16:14 tim_flatus Plus I have mostly been using the 'here' switch because deleting large areas crashes the game. 16:15 tim_flatus In which case the area will almost immediately regen. 16:17 ElectronLibre Here just regenerates one node for me, and sometimes it's just air ._. 16:17 tim_flatus It does an entire 80x80x80 chunk for me. 16:19 tim_flatus I did modify my version to y = +/- 48 so it actually regens two vertical chunks at once. 16:20 ElectronLibre You're using 0.4.12 release? 16:20 tim_flatus yes 16:20 tim_flatus That's what caused the problem in the first place :D 16:21 ElectronLibre Ok let me retry, I tried to regenerate a lake and a jungle appeared so I'm gonna retry there and see if jungle glass grow. 16:22 tim_flatus If you're in v7 that sounds like what I'm experiencing. Is the new ground higher? 16:22 tim_flatus paramat tweaked the mountain code. 16:23 ElectronLibre Oh, I was using v6. 16:23 ElectronLibre Let me create a test world with v7. 16:23 * ElectronLibre thinks : "Wow. Another test world, but I have so many ._." 16:23 Neolink5 Is there a mesecon timer? 16:23 tim_flatus In a new world you won't see much difference 16:24 ElectronLibre A new world with v7. Maybe it's because of v7. 16:24 tim_flatus I mean, that's actually how it's supposed to work 16:25 tim_flatus Yes it's due to a change in the v7 mapgen 16:33 tim_flatus I have just had an important revelation. It's all about the story. Decision made. 16:34 * tim_flatus goes off to battle the forces of nature ... 17:27 xilef33 . 17:27 marktraceur ! 17:27 marktraceur ‽ 17:28 Calinou hi 17:28 xilef33 hi 17:29 xilef33 #minetest 18:55 Neolink5 is there a dooe that having opened by signal of mesecon? 18:55 Neolink5 door* 18:56 sfan5 i think you can use normal doors for that 18:57 Neolink5 a steel door? 18:57 sfan5 no, only wooden doors 18:57 rubenwardy !up home.rubenwardy.com 18:57 MinetestBot home.rubenwardy.com:30000 is up (547ms) 18:57 rubenwardy I'm testing my capture the flag game 18:57 Neolink5 Can other user open it? 18:57 rubenwardy Try and crash that server 18:58 sfan5 Neolink5: yes, everyone can use wooden doors 18:58 Neolink5 its bad 18:59 rubenwardy Server restarted with creative now enabled 18:59 rubenwardy Server restarted with creative now enabled 19:00 rubenwardy !up home.rubenwardy.com 19:00 MinetestBot home.rubenwardy.com:30000 is up (64ms) 19:00 shadowzone I'll try it out 19:02 rubenwardy Excellent 19:02 shadowzone stuck at connecting to server.. 19:02 Neolink5 can piston move up? 19:03 shadowzone Yep 19:03 VanessaE yes, just rotate it with a screwdriver 19:04 Neolink5 ok thanks you, i going to try 19:04 VanessaE (I think if you're looking sufficiently downward when you place one, it'll also point up) 19:06 justas2 Shadowzone? 19:06 shadowzone Yes? 19:07 justas2 My Inchranet cant load :( webchat 19:07 justas2 I used kiwi irc 19:07 shadowzone okay then write this down /server irc.inchra.net and then /join #minetest 19:08 shadowzone Easy, right? ;-) 19:08 justas2 Done 19:08 justas2 How to disconnect freenode 19:09 VanessaE just close the tab 19:09 VanessaE open a new one 19:09 justas2 Wait 19:09 justas2 Brb 19:14 Neolink5 i need help 19:14 Neolink5 wood wood wood 19:15 shadowzone rubenwardy: I'm stuck in connecting to server.. 19:15 rubenwardy !up home.rubenwardy.com 19:15 MinetestBot home.rubenwardy.com:30000 is up (1223ms) 19:15 rubenwardy Weird. What client version? 19:15 Neolink5 wood wood wood 19:15 Neolink5 brick steel brick 19:15 Neolink5 brick mesecon brick 19:15 Neolink5 Is this piston& 19:15 Neolink5 ? 19:16 VanessaE http://mesecons.net/items/piston_normal.php 19:16 rubenwardy I think I'm going to restart the world. Lol 19:16 justas2 150 USERS!!! 19:16 Neolink5 I can't craft it 19:16 justas2 Wait ill brb 19:16 VanessaE that's three wood, four cobblestone (or those may be stone bricks), one mesecon wire, and one steel ingot 19:17 VanessaE Neolink5: ^^^^ 19:17 sfan5 !server players:most 19:17 MinetestBot sfan5: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 48/78, 46/57 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 48ms 19:17 VanessaE the textures in the diagram are just old, those "brick" looking objects are old cobblestone from a long time ago 19:18 VanessaE sfan5: that's no surprise :P 19:18 Neolink5 its right 19:18 Neolink5 coblestone is right non stone brick 19:18 shadowzone rubenwardy: 0.4.12 19:19 Neolink5 8-) 19:20 sfan5 !op 19:22 sfan5 !deop 19:22 shadowzone what'd you change? 19:22 sfan5 the official channel of Minetest -> the official Minetest channel 19:22 sfan5 Version: -> Latest version: 19:23 shadowzone Oh 19:23 rubenwardy Back online 19:25 rubenwardy What happens when you give interact by default: http://a.pomf.se/liyapn.png 19:26 rubenwardy Is it possible to change the chat dialog using formspec? 19:28 * Jordach does some rendering 19:28 shadowzone haha 19:28 * Jordach figured out water for cycles 19:31 BlockMen rubenwardy, not with lua. they are somehwere defined in game.cpp 19:31 rubenwardy :( 19:31 rubenwardy I wanted to make a toggle button to pick whether the message is global or only to team members 19:32 BlockMen same for pause menu and death screen 19:33 Jordach rubenwardy, anytime someone chats send them a message and bring up the chatting formspec with the same message 19:33 Jordach OR have the default chat set to T and the inventory controls team chat 19:33 rubenwardy Interesting idea. 19:34 Jordach that way tablet users CAN use it 19:34 Jordach (although not reccomended) 19:39 rubenwardy http://a.pomf.se/wayeez.png 19:43 Jordach scrubs :P 19:43 * Jordach revisits old renders with new twists 19:45 Jordach http://a.pomf.se/nfltxp.png (improved water, new shading)] 19:45 Calinou rubenwardy, “WAYEEZ!” 19:45 Calinou sounds like a battle cry 19:46 shadowzone Jordach: very nice 19:46 rubenwardy Lel 19:47 justas2 Hey :) 19:53 Krock rubenwardy, interesting house protectio¨n 19:55 rubenwardy Hmmm. 19:57 guest30000000000 Im justas2 20:03 guest30000000000 Hi users on freenode 20:03 guest30000000000 :) 20:20 justas2 Hey :) 20:20 justas2 So many users 20:23 justas2 Hey electronlibre 20:23 justas2 :) 20:23 * ElectronLibre comes back. 20:24 ElectronLibre Hello justas2. 20:24 * justas2 waves at ElectronLibre 20:24 justas2 Hi 20:24 Selah Hello 20:24 MinetestBot 02[git] 04BlockMen -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Add beds 13edb02e9 http://git.io/A9X3 (152015-02-24T20:59:04+01:00) 20:24 justas2 Do /server inchra.net so you can see someone 20:25 ElectronLibre *irc.inchra.net 20:25 justas2 Just do inchra.net not irc.inchra.net 20:26 justas2 Bye freenode guys 20:26 ElectronLibre Oh yes indeed inchra.net:667 sends you to irc.inchra.net which send you on one of the servers. 20:28 justas2 Im on freenode 20:28 Selah o.O 20:28 ElectronLibre Yes indeed you are. 20:28 justas2 Selah 20:28 justas2 Do /server irc.freenode.net to join freenode 20:29 ElectronLibre Selah is on freenode too ._. 20:29 justas2 ???? 20:29 justas2 Theres 144 users!!! 20:29 justas2 Ive dissconnected inchra.nety 20:30 Selah ElectronLibre, how do you know? 20:30 justas2 Net* 20:30 ElectronLibre That's obvious, Selah is just there, on the same channel, you can see him/her, talk to him/her, because you're on the same network : freenode. 20:30 justas2 Joining Inchra.net ... 20:31 justas2 Am i in inchra.net now selah 20:31 Selah Nope 20:31 justas2 Now 20:31 justas2 ??? 20:31 CWz fail.... 20:31 * Selah starts giggling 20:31 ShadowNinja justas2: webchat.inchra.net 20:32 ElectronLibre Just a question to anyone in core-dev, is it normal that when you try to override an item with register_node("::" it doesn't allow you to do so? Why have not this feature been removed if it's now illegal? 20:32 justas2 ... 20:32 justas2 ._. 20:33 justas2 :'( all of you are laughing about me 20:33 Selah nope, only me. 20:34 ShadowNinja ... justas2: use just webchat.inchra.net 20:34 justas2 Disconnecting freenode (bye!) 20:34 justas2 ??? 20:34 * Selah thinks she should've kept her mouth shut 20:34 ElectronLibre I'm just smiling behind my computer but it's ok I've seen people most lost than you are now. 20:35 justas2 No i cant its unknown to my tablet :( it says try it later 20:35 Selah justas2, webchat.inchra.net/#minetest 20:35 justas2 Right now?? 20:35 ElectronLibre Oh my... https://webchat.inchra.net/#minetest should work. 20:36 justas2 Webpage unabled 20:36 ElectronLibre ... 20:36 ElectronLibre Let me fix that. 20:36 justas2 :( 20:36 Selah said that with me too 20:36 ShadowNinja ElectronLibre: Buy me a cert that doesn't turn the whole browser red when you connect yo a server using it. 20:36 justas2 123 RESTARTING THE WEB 20:37 justas2 Not available 20:37 ElectronLibre I never use webchat. I use my IRC client. But webchat.inchra.net doesn't seem right.. 20:37 ShadowNinja Oops, fixed webchat's DNS. 20:38 ElectronLibre Thanks. 20:39 ElectronLibre I think the adress to InchraNet should be written on minetest.net with freenode's channel's one because these times we get too many people who want to go on Inchra to see people on servers and go here instead ._. 20:39 justas2 https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/31Q3CQHjQeqKtc1e8EoJ hey CHECK IT OUT!!! 20:40 Selah ElectronLibre, that's why I added the link to it to my help_tab that didn't get merged because of someone's BS. *points at cg72* 20:40 ElectronLibre What's that? A crash? 20:41 justas2 https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/7928pXp6T5SmDCwuA8BA check my car that i made <-- 20:41 justas2 <3 20:41 justas2 ♠20:41 Selah ElectronLibre, it's crossy roads 20:41 justas2 XD 20:41 ElectronLibre Good work. 20:41 justas2 Check that pick 20:42 ElectronLibre (ShadowNinja, I'm glad you have a network for people using IRC but not interested in development, thank you very much.) 20:44 justas2 https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/IjLYzch5TxaAxbMUQXxf Also check captainsparklez's skin 20:44 ShadowNinja You're welcome. :-) Although it's not just me... 20:45 justas2 ®©®© 20:45 ElectronLibre Yes, it's VanessaE's too If I remember correctly. 20:45 justas2 XD 20:46 Selah I'd host one... but I do not have a capable PC 20:46 ShadowNinja ElectronLibre: VE's one of the Admins. The network's had about 5 admins over its 2-year-ish history. 20:47 ElectronLibre I didn't know that. 20:48 justas2 Dude what connection your using 20:48 justas2 ??? 20:49 ElectronLibre It's normal to get disconnected sometimes. (not quite, but we deal with it) 20:50 justas2 Opps 20:50 justas2 :() 20:50 justas2 XD 20:51 Selah letting you know, he's 9.. so don't try to explain stuff to him like you would me. 20:52 ElectronLibre (Dead voxels' god..) 20:52 ElectronLibre *dear 20:57 Johnsen2 WORK INCHRANET!!! 20:57 MinetestBot 02[git] 04BlockMen -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Use only red and white wool for beds 13ea7b04a http://git.io/A9Ab (152015-02-24T21:55:14+01:00) 20:57 shadowzone Johnsen2, what address? 20:57 Johnsen2 OH this is theh last time this lag bugs me im taking out da computerdestroyer 20:58 Johnsen2 selah. i typed /server isis.inchra.net 20:58 shadowzone try /server irc.inchra.net 20:58 Johnsen2 Thanks!!! 20:58 ElectronLibre What are you all doing here? Why can't you connect to inchra? ._. 20:59 * Johnsen2 throws the thor hammer at everyone CHAU!!! 20:59 shadowzone ElectronLibre, changing of servers. 20:59 ElectronLibre You were using isis? Haven't you seen there was a notice on the day's message to announce that isis was separating from the IRC network? 21:38 justas2 MTZ-Basic: cmd privs 21:38 justas2 Opps 21:38 ElectronLibre :fail: 21:38 justas2 XD 21:38 justas2 MTZ-Basic, cmd privs 21:39 justas2 Fail 2 21:39 justas2 Wtf 21:39 justas2 ?!? 21:39 justas2 Mtz basic is not in this channel 21:39 ElectronLibre It's not on this network at all.