Time Nick Message 00:00 dacthenextlevel rendered? 00:03 VanessaE well like, a 3d model of some kind 00:03 VanessaE metal ingots used to be that way for example 00:04 VanessaE the table legs and chainlinks are, still 00:04 dacthenextlevel okay so 3d stuff 00:05 VanessaE yrah 00:06 dacthenextlevel dont they have mutpile things 00:07 dacthenextlevel like mutiple textures for the parts of them 00:07 dacthenextlevel like left_table_leg 00:07 dacthenextlevel im not sure if that is it but thats example 00:10 dacthenextlevel thanks i really apreciate it 00:12 VanessaE my stuff doesn't usually do that, no 00:12 VanessaE (maybe in a few places, but not normally) 00:12 dacthenextlevel i mean with the 3d stuff 00:12 VanessaE with mesh nodes, all the different parts are in one texture file. 00:13 VanessaE one poly for a leg here, a poly for the top of the foot over there, part of the bottom of a molding off in that corner, etc 00:13 VanessaE whatever's appropriate to the model 00:14 dacthenextlevel at the end inkscape is takeing a long time to fhish 00:19 VanessaE it always does 00:19 VanessaE that's part of why I don't use it much anymore 00:20 Acerspyro ? 00:20 Acerspyro What about inkscape? 00:22 VanessaE it's slow. 00:25 Acerspyro ik 00:25 Acerspyro Very 00:26 Acerspyro Open the about dialog 00:26 Acerspyro It shows :P 00:26 Acerspyro Image takes a fucking time to load. 00:29 VanessaE doesn't help that much of the program is written in python 00:30 VanessaE (as far as I understand) 00:30 VanessaE and uses no GPU accel at all 00:31 dacthenextlevel im looking at gimp now 00:32 dacthenextlevel just asking is it better to use blender then 00:32 dacthenextlevel blender 00:32 dacthenextlevel for the 3d images 00:32 VanessaE GIMP is for images 00:32 VanessaE Blender is for models 00:33 dacthenextlevel thats what i meant 00:36 dacthenextlevel so asking ist blender the thing to make models well then dont i put the images in the thing to make the models 00:36 dacthenextlevel or a copy of the images 00:36 VanessaE you use Blender to make the model, then use GIMP to make the images to put ON the model 00:37 dacthenextlevel oh 00:37 dacthenextlevel i see 00:37 twoelk don't mix a picture of a model for the inventory with the texture for a model 00:37 VanessaE and then if you need an inventory image for Minetest, set your camera and some lights in your Blender scene and tell Blender to render an image, then post-process that in GIMP (crop, cut the grey background, scale it down). 00:37 VanessaE that's how I do it now. 00:38 VanessaE right, exactly 00:38 VanessaE there's a difference between the picture of an ingot, and an ingot you can spin around and look at from all sides 00:38 VanessaE versus the images that are put on those sides 00:38 VanessaE all three of these are different 00:39 VanessaE homedecor's green and brown bottles are a better example actually 00:40 VanessaE they have decent models, around which a complex-ish texture is wrapped, and then I took a screenshot of that to get the inventory image. 00:40 dacthenextlevel so i could in thory if wanted to make most items 3d 00:40 VanessaE in theory yes 00:40 VanessaE in practice, probably not 00:40 VanessaE some stuff won't translate to 3d 00:40 * twoelk just recently updated his wine cellar with new homedecor goodies :-) 00:41 dacthenextlevel allright 00:41 dacthenextlevel how do i decide how small i need to make inventory sizes 00:41 VanessaE twoelk: I optimized that model just recently, are you up-to-date? how does it behave? 00:42 VanessaE (you'll know if you have the update if two of the bottles have a tiny hole in the neck or not) 00:42 twoelk what model? 00:42 VanessaE twoelk: the winerack model 00:42 twoelk the winerack thingie? 00:43 dacthenextlevel i cant get blendre to open 00:43 twoelk yeah added that, looks a bit out of scale with the rest but adds atmosphere 00:43 VanessaE twoelk: yeah, I had some trouble balancing the size of the winerack with its tileability 00:46 * twoelk decides to visit his winecellar 01:00 twoelk hm, just a few minutes ago I visited the french server and justtest, a little lag but playabble then I connect to VanessaE's Creative and connect, Windows complains about not eneogh RAM and the client crashes 01:00 VanessaE heh 01:00 twoelk what is different on that server? 01:01 twoelk had similar issues in the last days 01:01 VanessaE creative runs dreambuilder, so you need around 3GB of RAM to play it comfortably, because minetest is kind of a hug 01:01 VanessaE hog* 01:01 twoelk always with VEC-server 01:01 VanessaE wait 01:01 VanessaE update your client 01:01 VanessaE there's a bug in 0.4.11 01:01 VanessaE it'll crash in certain cases due to facedir bugs 01:02 VanessaE (it looks like a memory glitch) 01:03 twoelk running Krocks patched version less than three days old is not recent enough? 01:03 VanessaE actually it should be 01:03 VanessaE how much RAM you got? 01:04 twoelk oops, I keep forgeting what this machine has I switch too often 01:04 VanessaE so, how much? :) 01:05 * twoelk waits for sysinfo to open 01:06 twoelk hm sysinfo says none - something fishy is going on 01:07 Acerspyro Zombie computer 01:07 VanessaE damn, you got the machine to run without RAM? :D 01:07 Acerspyro VanessaE: Only relying on CPU cache and swap :D 01:07 VanessaE haha 01:08 twoelk eh? 2GB, that can't be true, I know I added 4 some years ago 01:08 twoelk oh dear it's dying 01:08 VanessaE twoelk: bad RAM? 01:09 Acerspyro No 01:09 Acerspyro lol 01:09 twoelk this needs investigation :-D 01:09 Acerspyro VanessaE: Bad RAM would still be detected 01:09 Acerspyro But would be prone to corruption 01:09 VanessaE Acerspyro: well a bad socket maybe? 01:09 Acerspyro Possibly a bad socket 01:09 Acerspyro Exactly 01:09 VanessaE ninja'd :) 01:09 Acerspyro I thought it before you 01:09 Acerspyro Mentally ninja'd 01:10 VanessaE heh 01:10 Acerspyro Yeah, this is common, dying sockets 01:10 VanessaE time to get the hot glue and a compressed air can 01:10 VanessaE (the former in case the latter fails ;) ) 01:11 Acerspyro why hot glue 01:11 VanessaE to block off the socket if he can't make it work 01:11 Acerspyro Are you gonna glue another DIMM slot in? :D 01:12 VanessaE as a reminder not to use it again 01:12 jojoa1997 >:D 01:12 * Acerspyro checks something 01:12 * jojoa1997 sucessfully installed ram into his linux tower 01:13 Acerspyro jojoa1997: Cuz it was hard? 01:13 jojoa1997 I have never seend the inside of a computer before :P 01:13 Acerspyro twoelk: if you're skilled, you could find yourself a new DDR3 socket and solder it in :D 01:13 Acerspyro jojoa1997: wut 01:13 Acerspyro How 01:13 Acerspyro Why 01:13 twoelk cool another tool claims to have found 1791MB worth of RAM 01:13 Acerspyro twoelk: lol 01:13 jojoa1997 and the wires were a mess. I never needed to. It is an old tower from my mom's work that I installed ubuntu on 01:14 Acerspyro ew buntu :P 01:14 jojoa1997 I am happy cause i can run linux and windows simultaniously. 01:14 VanessaE twoelk: better get the screwdriver out then, get things back into normal condition if you can 01:14 Acerspyro jojoa1997: You're not a real nerd! 01:14 jojoa1997 do i care what you think? 01:14 Acerspyro No, neither do I 01:14 Acerspyro Care what I think :D 01:15 twoelk jojoa1997: split personality? 01:15 jojoa1997 huh? 01:16 jojoa1997 Anyways I have elementary os and ubuntu on the first hardrive and debian and mint on the second drive 01:16 Acerspyro Not much variety 01:16 Acerspyro That's all Debian, isn't it? 01:17 * Acerspyro has a sudden crave for iced capp 01:18 Acerspyro (cappuccino slush) 01:18 chrisf that's not a real coffee 01:18 Acerspyro no 01:19 Acerspyro It's cappuccino 01:19 VanessaE a cappuccino SLUSH? 01:19 Acerspyro In slush format 01:19 VanessaE O_o 01:19 Acerspyro VanessaE: It's epic 01:19 * VanessaE faints 01:19 Acerspyro Iced cappuccino 01:19 Acerspyro You need to try it. 01:19 VanessaE damn hipsters ;) 01:19 Acerspyro It's NOT like cold coffee, I am serious 01:20 Acerspyro http://www.timhortons.com/ca/en/menu/iced-capp.php 01:20 VanessaE oh, Tim Horton's...isn't the the outfit that's joining with Burger King? 01:20 Acerspyro no 01:20 VanessaE oh good 01:21 Acerspyro wtf do you get that from xD 01:21 VanessaE um, because they are? 01:21 VanessaE http://www.wsj.com/articles/canada-approves-burger-kings-deal-to-buy-tim-hortons-1417728183 01:21 Acerspyro They're not 01:21 Acerspyro huh 01:21 Acerspyro Maybe, idc, still tims 01:21 Acerspyro :D 01:21 VanessaE I'm pretty sure the Wall Street Journal has their shit together :) 01:22 Acerspyro VanessaE: You know what Tims is? 01:22 VanessaE a donut chain afaik 01:22 Acerspyro Kind of like a Dunkin' donut, yes 01:22 VanessaE BK has been taking a ton of flak over this merger because they're doing it for tax reasons 01:24 VanessaE anyways 02:08 n4x VanessaE: which VPS provider would you recommend? 02:09 VanessaE I couldn't recommend any specific one 02:09 n4x ah, well 02:09 n4x good night, now :P 02:09 VanessaE night 02:36 dacthenextlevel ervey time i use blender and it finally works it just closes 02:40 jordan4ibanez Blender is bugged in the latest version for some reason 02:40 jordan4ibanez and goodnight 02:46 dacthenextlevel how do you get the older ones 02:46 VanessaE your distro probably has 2.69 available 02:47 VanessaE I installed 2.73 manually, haven't really put it through its paces yet 02:51 dacthenextlevel i have 2.72 02:53 dacthenextlevel well im getting 02:53 VanessaE 2.73 is current. 02:53 VanessaE http://www.blender.org/download/ 02:53 dacthenextlevel will it run 02:53 VanessaE idk 02:54 VanessaE works for me but you surely run a different OS/distro than me 02:54 dacthenextlevel i got 2.72 to work 02:56 dacthenextlevel i dont get blender 02:57 dacthenextlevel i know it's for models but i was just wanting to make textures for allreday made ones 02:59 VanessaE textures you can make in gimp. 02:59 VanessaE or any other paint program, 03:00 dacthenextlevel okaying 03:05 Acerspyro gimp plz 03:52 sofar Can I spawn a sheep easily with mobf? 03:52 sofar the documentation is... nonexistant 03:59 * ShadowNinja wrote a sqrt() function that compares well with the stdlib function (speed and accuracy wise) both take 1-4us for most numbers: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9791219/ 04:00 gregorycu Who do you think you are 04:00 gregorycu John Carmack? 04:01 gregorycu Use newtons method bro 04:01 gregorycu Faster convergance 04:05 ShadowNinja gregorycu: I just threw something together for fun. 0 research on computing sqrt. 04:06 gregorycu aahh ok 04:06 Zeno` have a look at glibc's implementation 04:06 gregorycu You know, if you're bored, there are a lot of bugs 04:06 gregorycu ;) 04:06 Zeno` doesn't sqrt use an x87 intrinsic instruction these days? 04:07 ShadowNinja gregorycu: Like? 04:07 gregorycu https://github.com/minetest/minetest/labels/bug 04:07 gregorycu Urgh, over 100 bugs 04:09 ShadowNinja gregorycu: Oh, I thought you meant in the code I posted... 04:09 gregorycu Nah, I wouldn't deflate your balloon like that 04:11 ShadowNinja gregorycu: I already wrote a fix for the latest (as of a few hours ago) bug and PR's it a few months ago. I can see future bugs! 04:11 gregorycu You're quite a ninja 04:11 ShadowNinja Yep, still latest. 04:11 ShadowNinja :-D 04:16 Zeno` ShadowNinja, I don't think your version is complicated enough 04:17 Zeno` https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=blob;f=sysdeps/ieee754/flt-32/e_sqrtf.c;h=c02206ac0154b7aac16005173a038a42eaf8a9c4;hb=HEAD 04:18 ShadowNinja Heh. 04:19 gregorycu Is there seriously not an instruction for sqrt? 04:20 Zeno` I think there is. that ieee754 stuff is there for machines without it (i *think*) 04:20 Zeno` I write these kind of functions every once in a while as well. I have a sqrt() somewhere 04:20 Zeno` and a sin() 04:20 Zeno` heh 04:20 Zeno` moments of boredome 04:20 Zeno` boredom* 04:21 Zeno` LOL https://github.com/Zeno-/snippets/blob/master/sine.c 04:21 Zeno` really, really, bored 04:21 * Zeno` hunts for sqrt 04:22 Zeno` I have a much faster sin() function as well 04:22 Zeno` can't find it :/ 04:22 VanessaE ask a pastor, he'll help y.... oh wait 04:23 Zeno` where is my fast sin()! 04:23 Zeno` VanessaE, did you take it? 04:23 VanessaE nope 04:24 * VanessaE digs through her box of spare functions 04:24 VanessaE wait, I think .... 04:24 VanessaE oh hey 04:24 VanessaE here's a spare cos() 04:24 chrisf gregorycu: there not only is a sqrt instruction, but it's about 1/10th the cost of a single LLC miss. 04:24 Zeno` I can't find all my Project Euler src code either :-o 04:26 Zeno` this is a disaster beyond comprehension 04:28 Zeno` I have a backup of glibc-2.18, though. That's handy :/ 04:36 * Zeno` has written a version of is_leap_year() that compares well with other methods. Speed-wise it's slower than almost any other implementation out there 04:36 Zeno` http://codepad.org/NfGrxYYW 04:36 Zeno` it's darn elegant though! 04:37 VanessaE I think I remember this code 04:38 VanessaE (you showed it once before I think) 04:39 Zeno` I will build it one day 04:39 Zeno` I mean build it with real cogs 04:40 VanessaE in LEGO! 04:40 TriBlade9 YUS 04:40 Zeno` I've also implemented: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_multiplication 04:40 VanessaE well wait, is there a 25-tooth gear in LEGO? 04:40 TriBlade9 Lego and chopsticks 04:40 Zeno` It compares well with other functions as well 04:41 Zeno` where is all my stupid code 04:41 TriBlade9 There's a 24 tooth gear 04:41 Zeno` might have to make a custom lego gear 04:41 VanessaE TriBlade9: yep, I know 04:42 VanessaE Zeno`: that method looks like what I do while translating decimal to binary by hand 04:42 Zeno` someone will have a 3d printer 04:42 Zeno` VanessaE, Ancient Egyptians didn't know binary. And you're not an Ancient Egyptian (are you?) 04:42 VanessaE Zeno`: nope 04:42 Zeno` maybe you are 04:43 TriBlade9 Moment of truth... 04:43 Zeno` and just don't know it 04:43 VanessaE but looking at the list of steps given at the start of the article, that's exactly what I do. 04:43 VanessaE weird. 04:43 VanessaE maybe they just didn't know that they knew binary? :) 04:44 Zeno` maybe you just didn't know that you're ancient pharaoh 04:44 VanessaE hah! 04:45 Zeno` I should collect all these old methods 04:45 Zeno` and make an ancientmath.h 04:45 VanessaE TriBlade9: moment of truth.......3d-printing a 25-tooth gear? :) 04:45 Zeno` I could petition the C Standard Committee to add it 04:46 TriBlade9 Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron? 04:46 Zeno` what? 04:46 TriBlade9 Well, I suppose not, you can know something before it's defined. 04:47 Zeno` These need to be standardised! 04:47 Zeno` otherwise we'll have people reinventing the ancient methods 04:49 Zeno` 10^6 looks happy 04:49 Zeno` http://www.math.buffalo.edu/mad/Ancient-Africa/mad_ancient_egypt_arith.html 04:49 Zeno` 10^2 looks like debian 04:50 Zeno` 10^3 is... bizarre. I wonder if that's accurate 04:54 Zeno` I seem to have a habit of putting people to sleep 04:54 TriBlade9 ZzZZZZZzzzzz 04:55 TriBlade9 Oh, Zeno`, I did convert it to ints and fix the formatting. Is it good now? 04:56 Zeno` That looks more like what we were talking about yesterday, yeah 04:57 Zeno` I don't like the function name though :p 04:57 Zeno` (float)ratio/255.0f <--- you don't need that cast 04:57 VanessaE actually I'm quite awake 04:57 gregorycu or the 0 04:57 Zeno` but I guess it can't hurt being left there 04:58 Zeno` actually i prefer 255.0f over 255.f :P 04:58 Zeno` have you got any screenshots, TriBlade9? 04:58 TriBlade9 Screenshots of what Zeno`? 04:59 TriBlade9 My clothing mod which uses colorize? 04:59 Zeno` some "tinted" stuff 04:59 Zeno` I guess so. I just want to see what the results look like :) 04:59 TriBlade9 Sure, but I doubt it would be very noticable what changes were made x] 05:00 TriBlade9 gimme a sec 05:01 TriBlade9 https://lut.im/66Zy7DCO/LNYphHOD 05:01 TriBlade9 Dark red vest, red belt, yellow tie, light red headband (invisible) 05:01 TriBlade9 All from white/grey base images 05:02 Zeno` very nice 05:02 Zeno` I wanna see his headband 05:03 TriBlade9 Pfft 05:03 TriBlade9 It's like a belt, on his head 05:03 TriBlade9 Under the hair 05:03 Zeno` lol 05:03 Zeno` who puts a belt on their head? 05:03 Zeno` I suppose you would if you wanted to hold your feather in place 05:04 Zeno` Anyway, I'm ok with it if others are as well 05:04 Zeno` it's fully backwards compatible now, so I don't see any major issues/hurdles 05:13 gregorycu Zeno`: You should totally check out my PR bro 05:14 gregorycu It's "fully sick" 05:15 VanessaE gregorycu: that's not enough code - it's too simple for a 33% gain. it has to be more complex than that. :) 05:17 gregorycu You should see what I've got in the works 05:25 IAmHenryThe8th Where can I find the item strings for Mesecons? 05:25 Zeno` where is the awesome PR? :) 06:10 ssieb is there a way to change the logfile location/name from the config file or is it only possible as a command line parameter? 06:10 ssieb I'm referring to the debug.txt file 06:11 ssieb the problem is that I'm running two servers on the same computer so the output is mixed in the file 06:13 TriBlade9 Beginning a tad of work on a Java-based voxel engine again. 06:14 VanessaE ssieb: I use a command line param to do it. 06:27 ssieb VanessaE: I saw that option, but I was hoping it could be done in the config file... 06:27 ssieb otherwise, I have to modify the systemd service file 06:28 compunerd Is anyone interested in playing on a moontest server with technic? I'm working on one now and would like some feedback... 06:29 sofar ssieb: have you tried creating a minetest@.service that is instantiated? That way you can have 1 unit for multiple files, and put WorkingDirectory=/path/to/minetest/worlds/%I 06:29 sofar ssieb: that way the output debug log file sticks in each world's folder 06:31 ssieb sofar: I use Fedora and it's packaged like that. 06:31 ssieb the command in the service file is: /usr/bin/minetestserver --config /etc/minetest/%i.conf --port $PORT --map-dir /var/lib/minetest/%i/ 06:32 ssieb is WorkingDirectory different than map-dir? 06:32 sofar WorkingDirectory even present in there? 06:33 ssieb is that a config option or command line option? 06:33 ssieb I don't see it in the config file 06:33 sofar http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.exec.html 06:34 sofar WorkingDirectory= 06:34 sofar Takes an absolute directory path. Sets the working directory for executed processes. If not set, defaults to the root directory when systemd is running as a system instance and the respective user's home directory if run as user. 06:34 ssieb oh, the systemd one 06:34 VanessaE er, Minetest doesn't use systemd as far as I know? 06:35 sofar it doesn't need to 06:35 sofar systemd uses minetest 06:35 ssieb systemd is what starts the minetest server 06:35 VanessaE not on my systems 06:35 VanessaE I start it manually. 06:35 VanessaE fuck systemd. 06:35 ssieb sofar: I don't think the working directory affects where minetest puts the log 06:36 ssieb oh well, I guess I'll just modify the service file 06:38 sofar it does... 06:38 sofar ./../bin/minetestserver --config server.conf --world . 06:38 sofar debug log ends up in the world folder 06:38 sofar that's how I run it 06:39 ssieb hmm, ok, but either way I have to modify the file :-) 06:41 sofar cp it to /etc/systemd/system and edit it there 06:41 sofar that way fedora won't overwrite your files 06:41 sofar that way fedora won't overwrite your modified files 06:41 ssieb yes 06:44 TriBlade9 Looking at a reference implementation for greedy meshing, suddenly realize that the creator generated a new mesh and geometry for each face. Wat. 06:52 TriBlade9 because hail satan I suppose -_- 07:01 sofar is there a way to make 'mg' and 'moretrees' work together? 07:02 VanessaE they already do I thought? 07:02 sofar I only see mg generated terrain 07:02 sofar no moretrees anywhere 07:02 sofar uh 07:02 VanessaE got plants_lib installed? 07:02 sofar I guess there's some moretrees lag 07:02 sofar nah, it works 07:02 VanessaE oh ok 07:03 sofar just took 5 minutes before I saw anything 07:03 VanessaE strange, it must be generating the slow-growing saplings instead of instant-growing mode. 07:03 * VanessaE shrugs 07:03 sofar no, I have that turned off 07:03 sofar moretrees.spawn_saplings» » = false 07:04 VanessaE well that's a moretrees/plants_lib setting, I don't know if mg honors it 07:04 sofar I'm looking to a village and it just has default trees 07:04 sofar but I can see moretrees planting stuff around it now 07:04 sofar it's going very slow :) 07:05 VanessaE ok, then mg doesn't honor that setting :) 07:05 VanessaE it likely generated moretrees' saplings around the map 07:06 sofar string "plants_lib" not found in mg 07:06 sofar more work for you ;) 07:07 VanessaE nope.avi 07:07 VanessaE mg has its own biome api 07:07 VanessaE it doesn't need plants_lib :) 07:08 VanessaE if it's generating moretrees saplings, that just means it needs some minor adaptation is all 07:14 jordan4ibanez I hate programming while sick 07:14 gregorycu I know how ya feel 07:14 gregorycu I've been programming on 0 hours sleep 07:15 TriBlade9 I feel ya jordan4ibanez. 07:15 TriBlade9 What do you have? 07:16 sofar setting moretrees.spawn_saplings = true seems to have helped 07:17 jordan4ibanez I have no idea, but it's been keeping me in bed all day 07:18 gregorycu If I copy my minetest directory, will git work properly, and can I have two going at once? 07:19 VanessaE sofar: if it's set to true, *normally* it spawns a type of sapling that starts growing in 10-15 seconds 07:19 VanessaE I gotta wonder why mg is spawning the slow-growing kind instead of just directly spawning the trees in the 'false' case. 07:19 sofar it's just growing it's own trees 07:19 sofar is my bet 07:20 * VanessaE shrugs 07:20 sofar I don't see mg grow any saplings at all 07:20 VanessaE mg has some decent tree models anyway so it's not like moretrees adds all that much :) 07:20 sofar euh 07:20 sofar disagree :D 07:37 TriBlade9 Woot, greedy meshing system is working :D 07:39 gregorycu What is greedy meshing? 07:40 TriBlade9 It merges voxels of the same type into a single face, providing a smaller mesh 07:40 VanessaE OH 07:40 gregorycu I was going to implement exactly that... 07:40 VanessaE I believe hmmmm has been wanting that 07:40 TriBlade9 Oh, I'm not writing it for Minetest. x] 07:40 VanessaE oh. :( 07:41 TriBlade9 I couldn't do it in C++ if I wanted to, definately not performantly. 07:41 gregorycu Oh excellent, i can still write it then 07:41 TriBlade9 Oke :) 07:41 gregorycu Doesn't have to be that performant 07:41 VanessaE guess you have to borrow her algorithm then :P 07:41 gregorycu Mesh generation happens on a different thread 07:41 gregorycu TriBlade9 is a "her" then 07:41 TriBlade9 Use Mylkoselivkisnowretk or whatever's algorithm 07:41 TriBlade9 I'm not a her... 07:41 VanessaE oh sorry 07:41 VanessaE I remembered wrong 07:42 TriBlade9 Yeah... 07:42 TriBlade9 O-o 07:42 VanessaE meh 07:42 gregorycu Is Mylkoselivkisnowretk even close to correct spelling 07:42 TriBlade9 Not at all 07:42 VanessaE anyway, there'll be an algorithm to borrow it seems :) 07:42 TriBlade9 there's some M, y,s and o,s in there somewhere 07:42 TriBlade9 https://github.com/mikolalysenko/greedy-mesher 07:43 TriBlade9 http://0fps.wordpress.com/2012/07/07/meshing-minecraft-part-2/ 07:43 VanessaE HEY, that looks like HDX grass! 07:44 TriBlade9 All grass looks like HDX grass. (Trufax) 07:44 VanessaE heh 07:44 VanessaE it might be the same image but it's not tileable :) 07:45 gregorycu ... 07:45 gregorycu Remember when I said I'd lost my shit if someone fucked up these calculations 07:45 gregorycu lose 07:45 VanessaE yes? 07:45 gregorycu Well get ready 07:46 TriBlade9 Time to lost shit? 07:46 VanessaE uh oh 07:46 gregorycu FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 07:46 VanessaE wait 07:46 VanessaE to whom is it directed? 07:46 TriBlade9 *puts on shit-proof clothes* 07:46 TriBlade9 Somebody VanessaE, somebody. 07:46 * VanessaE grabs the hip-boots... 07:47 gregorycu This is my fault 07:47 gregorycu I should have just copied the existing algo 07:47 TriBlade9 What algorithm are you working on anyways? 07:48 gregorycu lol 07:48 gregorycu Strangely enough, the mesh generation algo 07:49 TriBlade9 Oh? What are you triing to do to it? (cwutididther) 07:49 gregorycu Make it faster by eliminating redundant calculations 07:50 jordan4ibanez Goodnight 07:50 gregorycu Goodnight 07:50 TriBlade9 Night jordy, get well soon 07:50 gregorycu It's just me and the girls now 07:50 TriBlade9 I am not a girl, I am a grill. Get it right. (A hot grill at that) 07:54 gregorycu What is a grill 07:57 * sfan5 puts an ice cube onto TriBlade9's head 08:03 TriBlade9 Nononono 08:03 TriBlade9 I only want meat on me. And maybe barbecue sauce. 08:04 VanessaE too late. you got ice. :) 08:04 air and grease 08:04 TriBlade9 gregorycu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Grilling.jpg/250px-Grilling.jpg 08:05 gregorycu Yeah, I got that 08:05 * sfan5 throws some 肉 in TriBlade9's direction 08:05 gregorycu So, you like to warm up sausages? 08:05 TriBlade9 Yeah, I like sausages. 08:06 air https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1508 <-- why is that not a bug? 08:08 TriBlade9 sfan5 wo yao wu ge xian rou (IDK the word for cut/slice) zai wo shang 08:08 TriBlade9 *wo de shang 08:08 sfan5 *puts into google translate* 08:09 TriBlade9 Wtf. The minetest forums have an adbot that just advertised Avast Antivirus? 08:09 sfan5 "I want no one on my first meat bold" 08:09 sfan5 sounds about right 08:09 TriBlade9 sfan5, the tones matter a lot 08:10 sfan5 i blame google 08:10 TriBlade9 "I want five pork (?) on my top (on top of me) 08:10 TriBlade9 " 08:10 sfan5 google suggested something with five 08:10 gregorycu So, looking at VoxelArea::index we appear to invert x and z 08:10 * sfan5 throws some more 肉 in TriBlade9's direction 08:11 * TriBlade9 pork bounces of my side and falls onto the grass. What a waste. 08:11 air sfan5: how come you removed the bug label on that? 08:11 sfan5 air: i added the "low-priority bug" label 08:11 sfan5 but ShadowNinja removed it 08:12 air it should be high priority 08:12 * sfan5 lightly places 5 pieces of 肉 on TriBlade9 08:12 sfan5 air: nobody of the core devs could reproduce this reliably 08:12 air do they run linux? 08:12 VanessaE sfan5: try installing jeija's trampolines 08:12 VanessaE that's one way to do it 08:13 TriBlade9 Oh yesh, I love the dripping liquids onto my hotness. Yes, cook my sweet juicy pieces of meat. 08:13 TriBlade9 Okay, enough of that, getting too weird. 08:13 sfan5 ^ 08:13 VanessaE TriBlade9: quite so. 08:13 air I was told it only happens on the linux client 08:14 sfan5 VanessaE: i might try that later 08:14 VanessaE sfan5: I don't know if the glitch still exists, but there was a way a long time ago to send a player off into nevernever land by bouncing them between two trampolines set to their highest "power" level (punch to set them) 08:19 ShadowNinja sfan5: I replaced "low-prio bug" with "low-prio" + "bug", but I apparently missed some. 08:20 air I get that bug a lot, and I know others who also get it, all running linux 08:21 TriBlade9 bbl 08:23 air an easy fix would be to check coordinates when setting player position and ignore them if any are infinite 08:23 VanessaE I'd personally prefer the values be capped. 08:24 VanessaE I don't usually care for silent errors 08:24 air but ignore if above cap 08:24 VanessaE of course WHY the player ended up at X+-inf in the first place is a different matter 08:24 VanessaE X=* 08:25 air it doesn't fix the collision issue that sets position to infinite, but players would no longer be teleported off the map 08:25 air capping the coordinates would still teleport the player somewhere they dont want to be 08:30 VanessaE thing is, what if the destination is say -240'000 ? 08:30 VanessaE (I've seen that before too) 08:30 VanessaE then the player is again off in neverland 08:30 VanessaE you could just ignore coordinates outside the normal range 08:31 VanessaE but that's a silent error imho 08:31 air log it 08:32 VanessaE I get the feeling that logging it would be insufficient, that's all 08:32 VanessaE and it STILL doesn't fix the problem of why the invalid position was called for 08:32 air you just walked 10000 nodes to find stuff, and suddenly get teleported to infinite position 08:33 VanessaE long walk just for some copper ;) 08:33 air would you rather the bug was silently ignored and didnt teleport you or would rather repeat the walk? 08:34 VanessaE fair enough I guess 08:34 air if on a server you can type /home or /spawn to get back on map 08:34 air but singleplayer might not have those 08:34 VanessaE singleplayer has /home :) 08:35 VanessaE but, point taken. 08:43 VanessaE hey rubenwardy. 08:43 VanessaE think I'll hit the sheets. night all 08:43 rubenwardy Hi all! 08:47 gregorycu I fear this has gotten the better of me 08:50 rubenwardy What has? 08:51 gregorycu I was trying to being some precalculation maps for meshes 08:51 gregorycu build 08:51 gregorycu Didn't work 08:51 gregorycu Well, it was working 08:51 hmmmm [02:37 AM] Woot, greedy meshing system is working :D 08:51 hmmmm how did you do that? 08:51 TriBlade9 "this" 08:51 gregorycu Until I realised that the engine stores the nodes in the reverse way that C++ does it 08:52 hmmmm (I know the answer, I just want to know how *you* did it) 08:52 gregorycu (Column major) 08:53 hmmmm I wonder why we need to regenerate the entire mesh when a single node gets modified 08:53 compunerd Anyone here want to try out a moontest world with working technic? Just set it up and need some testers... 08:54 hmmmm all we need to really do is modify, in the worst case, 12 entries in the index buffer 08:54 hmmmm erm, that was a stupid comment... textures 08:55 air compunerd: what server? 08:55 compunerd pc-solutions.dyndns-at-work.com port 30002 09:50 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Cheese Lovers Day! :-D 09:50 mazal It's cheese lovers day ? 09:50 rubenwardy Lol 10:02 alket just lost a bet on: is minetest infinite , i said it was 10:02 alket ugh, why did you write it one web saying that it is 10:05 rubenwardy Not even Minecraft is infinite. 10:06 rubenwardy It says infinite-world voxel game, which describes the type of game, and then it says almost infinite in the feature list 10:07 rubenwardy It might as well be infinite 10:07 rubenwardy Except when doing OS 10:07 rubenwardy ordinate survey maps 10:26 alket rubenwardy: wish i knew that, before i lost 10 euro 10:31 rubenwardy Ouch 10:33 alket whats stoping it for being infinite ? 10:34 air the size of numbers 10:42 rubenwardy You would need infinite hard drive space, so we can only talk about being technically infinite. 10:42 alket oh i get it now 10:43 alket but i thought infnite as in hardware space 10:43 air the limit has more to do with the size of numbers, not hard drive space 10:43 alket not infinite on each atom of universe :p 10:46 air you could use larger number types but then it wastes memory and can slow down the game 10:48 est31 VanessaE: If you disable this line, 100% cpu goes to normal. Not the quarries caused that much lag, it were the sorting machine (or their bad lua impl): https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/7d610b7c80487cd7a6e66f55c9c3b1190e5dfc7f/technic/machines/HV/quarry.lua#L132 10:50 est31 s/were/was 10:50 rubenwardy Yes, air 10:50 est31 I admit quarries have an ugly impl. too 10:51 rubenwardy I was talking about an infinite map potentially 11:01 kaeza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lxdYVIpM6U 11:19 TriBlade9 Do you ever find yourself so neck deep in someone else's broken code that you want to rewrite it using your own code from a totally different language? 11:19 air :) 11:20 EnB :) 11:21 TriBlade9 Lol. I'm gonna do it 11:31 TriBlade9 Unfortunately my implementation is a tad more involved since it uses a flat array instead of a 3D array, though the lookup time is way faster 12:43 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ngosang -> 03minetest/minetest: Update Spanish language 13d4786d8 http://git.io/ETYVcA (152015-01-20T22:41:46+10:00) 12:49 MinetestBot 02[git] 04apoleon -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix hyphen used as minus sign 1360d7451 http://git.io/uarABQ (152015-01-20T22:47:45+10:00) 12:58 MinetestBot 02[git] 04TriBlade9 -> 03minetest/minetest: Added ratio argument to colorize, removed the weird alpha-based ratio. 13db481e7 http://git.io/XKPWgg (152015-01-20T22:56:20+10:00) 13:34 tim_flatus Is there any way to stop PvP apart from Disable Damage? 13:35 ThatGraemeGuy tim_flatus: "enable_pvp = false" 13:35 ThatGraemeGuy tim_flatus: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example 13:36 tim_flatus Thanks, so that's in minetest.conf rather than game.conf - or does it work either way. I guess I can find out. ;-) 13:38 tim_flatus I see the server section. :-) 13:43 Drangue any HD moD ? 13:50 ThatGraemeGuy eh? o_O 13:53 tim_flatus My first attempt at running a server was strangely successful. Must brush up on my spanish and russian so I can talk to the players :/ 14:02 EnB #moremobs 14:19 Zeno` spy! 14:22 * Zeno` jumps up and down frantically. There is a spy in out midsts! 14:23 Zeno` Probably trying to discover secrets 14:23 Wayward_One lol 14:23 Wayward_One off with his head! 14:23 Zeno` yeah! 14:23 Zeno` beheading! 14:23 tim_flatus aspy? aspy? who's aspy? 14:24 tim_flatus ;-) 14:24 ThatGraemeGuy there is asspie? 14:24 Wayward_One o.O 14:24 * Zeno` points desperately at the spy 14:24 ThatGraemeGuy :-o 14:24 Zeno` him! it is him! 14:24 Zeno` I see him! 14:24 Wayward_One someone must've forgotten to flush 14:25 Zeno` this desperado will stop at nothing! 14:25 * Zeno` sets up the rack 14:25 tim_flatus The weather prolly brought him in. I dunno. 14:25 Zeno` I will discover his secrets 14:26 Zeno` lol tim 14:26 * Zeno` looks at his iron maiden 14:26 Wayward_One hehe 14:26 Zeno` we shall get his secrets, my dear 14:26 Zeno` aww crap 14:26 Zeno` she is rusty 14:26 Zeno` brb, getting oil 14:27 tim_flatus Wouldn't wanna give him blood poisoning. Naughty Zeno 14:28 * Zeno` captures the spy and places him gently in the iron maiden 14:28 Zeno` speak! 14:28 Zeno` she seems to be shy :( 14:29 * Zeno` puts the iron maiden on the trebuchet 14:29 Zeno` launch! 14:30 Zeno` I just destroyed my front door 14:30 Zeno` but it doesn't matter 14:30 * Zeno` waits until the dust settles 14:31 Zeno` wow, this has been a controversial night for the channel 14:31 tim_flatus Tiles. My world needs tiles. 14:32 tim_flatus No it hasn't ;-) 14:32 est31 Zeno`: can you point me to a specific time? 14:32 tim_flatus It's been a controversial day, o.O 14:32 Zeno` the recent moments and the identification, capture and launching of the spy 14:33 Zeno` it's a more important moment in history than the first moon landing 14:33 tim_flatus Being the utter pedant I am, I have to point out controversy requires someone to actually argue with. 14:34 Zeno` You deny that ShadowBot is (was?) a spy? 14:34 tim_flatus So far the perp has remained silent. 14:34 Zeno` ShadowBot, what say you. Are you a spy? 14:34 Zeno` There we go 14:35 Zeno` if they don't say anything they must be trying to hide something 14:35 tim_flatus OK, fine. The ducking stool it is. 14:35 tim_flatus Burn the which? 14:35 Zeno` yeah! 14:35 Zeno` hung her at the steak! 14:36 * Zeno` cheers the crowd on 14:36 est31 German speakers online? 14:36 tim_flatus drawn and cubed 14:37 est31 #2105 14:37 est31 minetest#2105 14:37 est31 no bot? 14:37 est31 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/2105 14:40 Zeno` I think you made a mistake, tim_flatus 14:41 tim_flatus How? 14:41 Zeno` the term is "drawn and courted" 14:41 tim_flatus Not in my accent it isn't ;-) 14:42 Zeno` courted in the four corners of the town or country usually 14:42 Zeno` it's a terrible display 14:42 tim_flatus I know I just find the blood eagle so pretty. 14:42 Zeno` beagle? 14:43 tim_flatus Drooper? 14:43 Zeno` doppelgänger? 14:43 * Zeno` is exhausted now 14:44 Zeno` fine show, chaps 14:44 Zeno` we have driven the spy from the land 14:44 tim_flatus Not surprised. I used to suffer from lycanthropy but I'm alright nooowwwwwwww!!! 14:44 Zeno` I don't like anthony much 14:48 * Zeno` meows 14:49 Zeno` so is #2105 ok? 14:49 Zeno` I cannot read it 14:49 Zeno` (read the comments) 14:50 est31 sapier said "sieht gut aus" means "looks good" 14:50 est31 I've done everything the commentors demanded 14:53 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Update german translation 135bcfe7e http://git.io/gmWwqQ (152015-01-21T00:50:50+10:00) 14:53 est31 Zeno`: thanks 14:53 Zeno` np 14:54 twoelk wieso eigentlich Soundlautstärke und nicht einfach Lautstärke? 14:55 est31 oh ja das ist besser 14:56 Zeno` est31, thank *you* 14:56 est31 np 14:56 * Zeno` idles 14:57 twoelk vielleicht aktive Mitarbeiter für Active Contributors, obwohl contribute vielleicht besser anders übersetzt werden sollte 14:58 twoelk oops, Mitwirkende ist schon drin 15:26 * Zeno` jumps up and down frantically. There is a spy in our midst! 15:26 Zeno` help! 15:29 twoelk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY-zmJ1VCQI 15:40 shadowzone Hello Zeno` 15:49 VanessaE goood morning all 15:50 jojoa1997 mornin 15:51 shadowzone Good morning/afternoon/evening everyone/ 15:51 shadowzone *. 15:51 jojoa1997 hi shadowzone 15:51 shadowzone Hello 15:53 kaeza afternoons 15:53 jojoa1997 long time no see kaeza 15:53 kaeza hey jojo 15:54 Zeno` spy! 15:55 jojoa1997 for my college class this semester I am taking a java class. Hopefully I can do a C++ class during the summer and be able to work on minetest 15:55 Zeno` VanessaE is a spy! 15:55 Zeno` hi shadowzone 15:55 VanessaE yeah some spy :P 15:56 jojoa1997 Where is VanessaE I cant see her. All I see is a huge pile of cats 15:56 * jojoa1997 places another cat on the pile 15:58 VanessaE heh 15:59 shadowzone >.> 15:59 shadowzone <.< 15:59 shadowzone >.> 15:59 shadowzone No sign of a spy 15:59 jojoa1997 Why is minetest so ... catty? 15:59 * jojoa1997 sneaks up behind shadowzone 15:59 VanessaE why not? 15:59 jojoa1997 why not squirly! 16:01 shadowzone Whoa! 16:01 shadowzone Hey jojoa1997! 16:02 jojoa1997 Boo! 16:02 shadowzone AHH! 16:02 jojoa1997 hehe 16:03 twoelk seems the ponys are fading while the cats are gaining again 16:03 * jojoa1997 is happily knitting a present for a girl he likes 16:06 shadowzone but, twoelk, that's good. right? 16:07 twoelk I'm all for cats, always have been 16:07 jojoa1997 Labradoodles are better :P 16:08 shadowzone I like dogs 16:08 shadowzone I'm severely allergic to cats. 16:50 Calinou hi 16:51 shadowzone Hi 16:51 * ElectronLibre wonders who we are welcoming 16:52 n4x no idea but, hi 16:53 ElectronLibre Yes, anyway, hi. 16:54 shadowzone Calinou. 16:58 Nytram Oh! Sorry, I seemed to have missed that nobody.. Hi anyway. o/ 17:00 Nytram I've looked on the minetest server lists and tried to join several of them, but they are painfully slow (I'm in UK on SKY 40mb fibre). I'm looking for a good, friendly, non griefing, non pvp server if one exists? 17:01 shadowzone try digitalaudioconcepts.com 30005 or mtzeno.com 30000 17:01 Nytram Still learning so would prefer a smoother journey until comfortable 17:01 Nytram Nice thanks shadowzone will do. 17:02 shadowzone pretty much any server with the address digitalaudioconcepts.com is what you're looking for. 17:02 Nytram Sweet. 17:03 shadowzone Those are VanessaE's servers. 17:04 Nytram Ah! Then I've tried them. I've also read some not so nice stuff about some of those servers. Stuff like a lot of vandalism? 17:04 VanessaE hardly. 17:04 Nytram Which I believe comnes under the catagory of griefing? 17:05 Nytram OK! I'll take another look, thanks. 17:05 VanessaE vandalism is griefing, happens on any server. mine are well-policed in that regard (except "FreeForAll") 17:06 VanessaE the two that shadowzone recommended are likely your two best bets, out of the set I run. 17:06 Nytram Okie dokie, thanks again. 17:06 VanessaE yw 17:07 VanessaE er, misread 17:07 VanessaE one of those is mine, one is zeno's :) 17:07 VanessaE try also port 30000 on mine, dreambuilder creative mode 17:07 Nytram K 17:23 Xack Calinou: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RG6ytZ95CkI/VL2oora7AqI/AAAAAAAACNo/gd49WGkBBnE/s1600/cube_craft_2.0.png 17:23 Xack also hi :) 17:24 Xack brb turning on printer 17:29 Calinou old news 17:30 Calinou Xack, check out 17:36 Jordach >clearly not a FOSS based reddit 17:37 Acerspyro lol 17:37 rubenwardy Hi all! 17:37 Acerspyro I like to use FOSS software because I don't like being lied to. And it's easy to lie when you can't verify the code yourself. 17:39 marktraceur Acerspyro: So obviously the next logical step is to not talk to people who aren't hooked up to a polygraph 17:39 marktraceur Or whose genetic code you can't obtain 17:39 Calinou free and open source software software, Acerspyro 17:39 rubenwardy freepo.st has a nice design 17:39 Calinou hi rubenwardy 17:39 Calinou chess? 17:39 rubenwardy No, I'm busy codin' 17:43 Xack huh 17:43 Xack very nice Calinou 17:45 Jordach oooho 17:45 Jordach rubenwardy, gettin chippy at 6:45 17:45 Acerspyro Everyone's excited just because it has a MT section :P 17:46 rubenwardy Awesome, Jordach. 17:46 Jordach yay 17:46 Jordach i can put irc on my second screen again while playing Space Engineers 17:46 Acerspyro how about automatically uploading MT screenshots to some site? 17:46 Acerspyro just a thought 17:48 Calinou you can automate that using scripts + API, Acerspyro 17:48 Calinou this isn't the game's territory 17:48 Acerspyro ok cool 17:48 Acerspyro MT has an API to upload to sites? 17:48 VanessaE it does not. 17:49 rubenwardy http://freepo.st/user/rubenwardy 17:49 rubenwardy Added comments to my Jekyll site, took ages. XD http://rubenwardy.com/ 17:50 Calinou why did you change the freepost icon :s 17:50 rubenwardy I thought I was changing my profile 17:50 Acerspyro http://freepo.st/user/acerspyro 17:51 Acerspyro site's a bit slow 17:52 Acerspyro Comments aren't very dynamic 17:52 Acerspyro Replies load a new page. 17:52 rubenwardy It has a nice clean UI though. It is fast for me, but I get 15Mbps 17:53 Acerspyro heh 17:53 Acerspyro I'm in a coffee shop 17:53 Calinou I will soon move and probably will have ~9 Mb/s down 17:53 Acerspyro but other pages are fast too 17:53 Calinou currently I have about 3 Mb/s down 17:53 Acerspyro lol 17:53 Acerspyro 50 mbps down at home 17:54 Calinou you should host servers and stuff :p 17:54 Acerspyro Website should be made more dynamic 17:54 Calinou seed torrents 17:54 Acerspyro Calinou: lol no 17:54 Acerspyro 10 mbps up 17:54 Calinou that's great 17:54 Acerspyro limited to 60 gb/month 17:54 Calinou oh 17:54 * ElectronLibre looks at his 5 Ko/s down >_> 17:55 * kaeza looks at his 5 G/mo cap <_< 17:55 Acerspyro ElectronLibre: Your contract says 5 kbps? 17:55 rubenwardy I would have 80 Mbps down if I used ethernet to the router. 17:55 Acerspyro Calinou: how much do you pay for that? 17:55 ElectronLibre Acerspyro: Actually my contract is a smart phone's wifi chip set up to provide access to the internet [VERY] slowly. 17:56 Acerspyro ElectronLibre: aah 17:56 Calinou 35 €/month 17:56 Calinou unlimited 17:56 Acerspyro that doesn't count then 17:56 Calinou no caps, but slow 17:56 Calinou I'm below average France speed, which is 7 Mb/s now 17:56 Calinou some people have 480 Mb/s down, 180 Mb/s up… 17:56 Acerspyro I think it's like 40-50 Canadian bucks by month for my connection 17:56 Calinou 43 €/month, unlimited 17:56 Acerspyro 50/10, capped @60 gb/month 17:57 Acerspyro Calinou: Most people here have 20 mbps down iirc 17:57 n4x those networks are expensive 17:57 ElectronLibre Back 6 months ago I had 3Mb/s down and less than 1 up.. 17:57 n4x that's still better than me 17:57 Acerspyro n4x: I don't have a bullshit ISP 17:58 Acerspyro ookla says 16 mbps 17:58 n4x still expensive 17:58 Acerspyro average for canada 17:58 Acerspyro n4x: where do you live 17:58 stormchaser3000 i am using mcdonalds internet so at&t 17:58 n4x argentina 17:58 stormchaser3000 !@#$ this is bad internet 17:58 Acerspyro n4x: lol 17:59 Acerspyro maybe connection's ass there 17:59 shadowzone "minecraft is my favorite game" "get the rope boys" <-- best forums post ever. 17:59 n4x the only way to have decent connection here is to live in buenos aires 17:59 stormchaser3000 minecraft is one of my least favorite games 17:59 Acerspyro muh, I thought EU had better internet than north america 17:59 n4x what 18:00 Acerspyro q66 gets a really high speed, uncapped connection for really low prices, he's greek iirc 18:00 Acerspyro But Videotron is the best you get in Canada, iirc 18:00 n4x well, I don't live in europe so I don't know ;_; 18:00 Acerspyro imo* 18:00 Calinou he lives in UK 18:00 Calinou he works for Samsung's open source division 18:01 Acerspyro guise 18:01 Acerspyro UK = Europe 18:01 Acerspyro uK is in europe 18:01 n4x no, not ≡ but ∈ 18:01 Calinou x ∈ [0; 666] 18:01 Acerspyro evil much 18:02 n4x x ∈ [-∞,+∞] 18:02 n4x there, ±∞ 18:02 Acerspyro Can't type dem symbols on my keyboard. 18:02 kaeza such unicode 18:02 * kaeza hugs n4x 18:02 shadowzone Acerspyro, hexchat? 18:02 Acerspyro Btw, the other day I learned that UK keyboard is really close to the Canadian keyboard 18:02 * n4x hugs kaeza back :3 18:02 Acerspyro shadowzone: No 18:03 Acerspyro ctcp version me 18:03 Acerspyro Fuck hexchat 18:03 shadowzone Oh... 18:03 Acerspyro Heh 18:03 * ElectronLibre is quite curious. 18:03 Acerspyro I got something better than HexChat 18:04 Calinou HexChat is great! 18:04 Acerspyro shadowzone: Did you get your ctcp reply? 18:04 shadowzone Yep 18:04 n4x hexchat ain't great 18:04 Acerspyro 00,04Nei, Konversation's better 18:05 shadowzone Hexchat! IS BAWS! 18:05 Acerspyro Nei 18:06 Acerspyro Can you use background colors for chat? 18:06 shadowzone Nope 18:06 n4x you can 18:06 rubenwardy Yes in hexchat 18:06 shadowzone 04You can? 18:06 Acerspyro I can 18:06 kaeza 01,01Acerspyro, Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down 18:06 Acerspyro I just did 18:07 Acerspyro 00,04Nei, Konversation's better 18:07 shadowzone -_- 18:07 Acerspyro Saw that? 18:07 shadowzone Nope 18:07 Acerspyro lol 18:07 Acerspyro It doesn't even support background colors 18:07 Acerspyro What the fuck :D 18:07 shadowzone 05Does this look weird? 18:07 Acerspyro no 18:07 n4x 05,04y04,09e07,06s 08,07y03,08o09,12u 10,11c11,07a02,10n 18:07 Acerspyro It's colored, but it's not weird 18:08 Acerspyro anyways, gotta run back to school 18:08 Acerspyro bb 18:08 n4x 12,08b06,10y13,07e 05,13A04,11c07,13e08,07r03,12s09,06p10,03y11,10r02,07o 18:08 * Calinou knew this would happen 18:08 Acerspyro Baiiii 18:08 kaeza the party doesn't start until... 18:08 kaeza !rainbow colurz 18:08 MinetestBot 4co7lu8rz 18:09 kaeza you suck MinetestBot :( 18:09 ElectronLibre 09I see everyone is involved in a 01color battle08, great. 18:09 n4x 12d06o13n05'04t 07w08o03r09r10y 11k02a12e06z13a, 05i04t07'08s 03s09t10i11l02l 12c06o13o05l 18:09 rubenwardy https://mediacru.sh/neDux4ryOCc4 18:09 rubenwardy Acerspyro. 18:09 rubenwardy oh 18:09 ElectronLibre He is gone. 18:10 shadowzone 04R07A08I03N02B06O13W04! 18:11 rubenwardy !rainbow You are a rainbow noob, shadowzone 18:11 MinetestBot 4You 7are 8a ra3inbo12w no6ob, 13shad4owzo7ne 18:11 shadowzone I am? 18:12 ElectronLibre If MinetestBot says it, it's obviously true... :/ 18:12 shadowzone -_- 18:12 shadowzone :( 18:14 marktraceur !rainbow Hooray for abusing bots 18:14 MinetestBot 4Hoo7ray8 fo3r a12bus6ing13 bo4ts 18:16 jordan4ibanez Holy shit 18:17 jordan4ibanez 13,15R11,08A04,15I04,06N04,15B04,03O04,06W10,11S 18:18 jordan4ibanez WUT THE 01,01FUCK01,00 DID YOU JUST SAY M8? 18:19 everamzah weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeechat 18:19 jordan4ibanez Quassel chat is best chat 18:20 sfan5 hexchat best chat 18:20 sfan5 netcat best cat 18:20 rubenwardy http://freepo.st/community/Hexchat 18:21 Calinou name your communities properly :/ 18:21 Calinou should be HexChat 18:22 rubenwardy Corrected 18:22 Calinou thanks 18:22 Calinou what kind of stuff would you post there? 18:23 jordan4ibanez Bugs? 18:23 Calinou rubenwardy, do you have time for chess now? :P 18:23 rubenwardy \o/ 18:24 jordan4ibanez sfan5: What is netcat? 18:24 Calinou http://lichess.org/KeZuceqV 18:24 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: a program to make network connections 18:27 kaeza a cat on a network 18:27 kaeza sfan5, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lxdYVIpM6U 18:28 sfan5 kaeza: meow 18:30 Krock meow. 18:31 Polsaker !rainbow MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM 18:31 MinetestBot 4MMMM7MMMM8MMMM3MMMM12MMMM6MMMM13MMMM4MMMM7MMMM8MMMM3MMMM12MMMM6MMMM13MMMM4MMMM7MMMM 18:31 Polsaker Beautiful. 18:31 sfan5 http://youtu.be/uBzeHVdI3B0?t=1m9s so cute 18:31 rubenwardy Calinou, HexChat plugins? :S 18:33 kaeza d'aww 18:34 Polsaker Yeah. HexChat is awesome 18:34 Jordach holy shit its cold 18:38 Calinou http://lichess.org/if17ZGKf/black 18:38 Calinou http://lichess.org/KeZuceqV 18:40 marktraceur Calinou: Good job 18:41 marktraceur Calinou: Want to go? 18:41 marktraceur I could play a game. 18:43 Trixar_za Hmmm, shooter is crashing my server :\ 18:43 jordan4ibanez I don't think I've ever been this eager to find bugs in my code, yet angry that I can't find any 18:44 ShadowNinja sfan5: Not on my pi, nc seems to be just int main(){return0;} there. 18:44 sfan5 ShadowNinja: which distro? 18:44 ShadowNinja I have to use telnet or openssl s_client. 18:45 ShadowNinja sfan5: Arch Linux ARM 18:45 sfan5 same here 18:45 Calinou marktraceur, OK 18:45 Calinou how much time? 18:45 marktraceur Dunno, 8 minutes? 18:45 Calinou OK 18:45 * Calinou plays better as there is less time 18:45 Calinou I'm best in 2 minutes 18:45 marktraceur Ah. 18:45 Calinou http://lichess.org/iZUucVJB 18:45 Calinou here is 8 mins 18:45 marktraceur I'm sort of out of practice 18:52 Jordach meow 18:53 DaveTheModder Woof 18:53 * Jordach really wants to play around with Kenney's textures 18:56 Jordach brb somehow pirating the unrelased 18:57 marktraceur Calinou: Time out? What? 18:57 Calinou yep 18:57 marktraceur I had 5 minutes left I thought, weird 18:57 marktraceur Oh, you had 5 minutes. 18:57 marktraceur Crap. 18:57 * Calinou plays quick 18:57 marktraceur Yeah 19:02 Trixar_za Ok - if it's not allowed to destroy nodes, then shooter crashes the server when trying to get collisionbox 19:07 * Jordach signs I'm a Pirate 19:07 Jordach sings* 19:07 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/t/tIRRGAoCOGB_.png 19:07 Jordach gg no re 19:08 Trixar_za Oh for the love of... 19:09 Trixar_za It STILL crashes if you try shooting something that's NOT destructable 19:09 marktraceur Jordach: What's that now? 19:10 Jordach marktraceur, kenney's unrelased subgame 19:10 Calinou how did you do, Jordach? 19:10 Calinou perspective correction? 19:10 Jordach Calinou, dark fucking magic 19:12 shadowzone Jordach, Not as bad as pirating illegal stuff, 19:16 Jordach 2 legit 2 quit https://cdn.mediacru.sh/O/OTE6AA6PFaIc.png 19:26 Jordach gg no re kenney http://puu.sh/eBACB/413c4a012c.png 19:26 Jordach brb node choppin 19:31 Jordach "Jan 16 20:37:19 it'll carry the same license as Minetest." 19:31 Jordach i have no qualms about making early access textures :P 19:32 stormchaser3000 XD 19:32 stormchaser3000 http://tinyurl.com/nfxlek9 19:32 Jordach !title 19:32 MinetestBot No title found. 19:32 Jordach u wot m8 19:32 jordan4ibanez Jordach, plz 19:32 Jordach jordan4ibanez, wat 19:32 marktraceur stormchaser3000: Thanks for your valuable contribution to the channel 19:32 stormchaser3000 XD 19:33 * jordan4ibanez wats internally 19:33 stormchaser3000 sorry if that is now allowed 19:33 stormchaser3000 not* 19:33 * stormchaser3000 slaps self if that wasn't 19:33 marktraceur It's just a bit odd to start off your tenure in the channel that way 19:33 marktraceur Log in, rickroll 19:33 rubenwardy Hi all! 19:33 Xenoth o/ 19:33 stormchaser3000 well i am a wierd person 19:33 stormchaser3000 XD 19:33 stormchaser3000 hi rubenwardy 19:34 jordan4ibanez Hi rubenwardy! 19:38 rubenwardy !title https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11066 19:38 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [16x] Inverted Texture Pack - Minetest Forums 19:39 jordan4ibanez Linux format just mentioned Minetest on their fb page 19:41 jordan4ibanez "Enjoy this cut-out and keep Minetest/Cube Craft paper Richard Stallman. You're welcome. Now, can someone wire up a Pi and get it to bark GNU/Linux every time someone says Linux in the office..." 19:41 jordan4ibanez And it's for this lol http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RG6ytZ95CkI/VL2oora7AqI/AAAAAAAACNo/gd49WGkBBnE/s1600/cube_craft_2.0.png 19:43 jordan4ibanez Someone should make a mod where you can craft a statue, and every time someone mentions "linux" in the chat it emits a barking sound hahahaha 19:46 rubenwardy Jordach, it is rather rude to extract the textures 19:46 Jordach "Jan 16 20:37:19 it'll carry the same license as Minetest." 19:47 marktraceur Jordach: Promise of future licensing is not the same as licensing 19:47 Jordach marktraceur, but. do said textures exist elsewhere 19:47 marktraceur I don't know 19:48 marktraceur Jordach: What license was the screenshot released under? 19:48 Jordach marktraceur, Imgur.com's silly license :P 19:48 marktraceur Then not cool 19:48 Jordach (then not sure about puu.sh 19:51 rubenwardy ) 19:51 rubenwardy #OCD 20:09 Jordach WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 20:09 Jordach UK confirmed to have legal safeguards for Net Neutrality 20:15 Brains Jordach: Curiosity impels... Linkage? 20:15 Jordach http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/input_devices/uk_internet_providers_embrace_net_neutrality/1 20:15 Jordach (ish, but puts the US to shame) 20:19 Brains Jordach: Er, that is a voluntary industry code... And if you'd like to read it flexibly, Comcast/TWC would both claim to be following the spirit of that code. 20:21 Jordach Brains, my ass are they 20:21 Jordach (my torrents and steam have gone on since 2012 and BT haven't once slowed me down) 20:25 Brains Jordach: I'm not claiming they are nice neutral folks, I'm claiming that a slim fig leaf isn't a proper substitute for a hazmat suit.... (And you can find plenty of folks in the US in various spots that aren't running into torrent trouble either. Anecdotes, not data.) 20:26 Jordach Brains, mhm 20:26 Brains brb, kid taxi time 20:26 Jordach Brains, GMT+5 i see? 20:27 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Jeija -> 03Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #208 from MT-Modder/master 13aed4d39 http://git.io/ytt2Ng (152015-01-20T21:27:48+01:00) 20:28 MinetestBot 02[git] 04MT-Modder -> 03Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Use group:sapling for all recipes 131509510 http://git.io/tW526A (152015-01-20T13:28:44-05:00) 20:28 est31 VanessaE: If you disable this line, 100% cpu goes to normal. Not the quarries caused that much lag, its the sorting machine (or their bad lua impl): https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/7d610b7c80487cd7a6e66f55c9c3b1190e5dfc7f/technic/machines/HV/quarry.lua#L132 20:28 VanessaE G*d damn it jeija, I just updated that! :) 20:28 VanessaE est31: see #minetest-technic, T4im is looking into the root cause of the problems 20:28 est31 k thx 20:29 Jordach VanessaE, i'm enjoying Kenney's textures ;3 20:29 ElectronLibre Just two lines changed, good, nothing very complicated to update! :D 20:35 est31 cool didnt knew that this channel existed 20:35 est31 thx 21:21 jordan4ibanez Wow 21:22 jordan4ibanez I just saw a major flaw, I've been using self.position to calculate a lot of things in the trains mod, and I could have just swapped their in world position and direction onstead 21:22 jordan4ibanez Why 21:23 sofar am I bouncing IRC or is my bouncer freaking out? 21:55 jordan4ibanez VanessaE: Can we test my mod on your server? 22:01 Acerspyro I was thinking about making a mod that makes a lot of blocks and things in 3D 22:01 brontosaurusrex would a minetestserver default config location be .minetest/minetest.conf or what? (debian) 22:01 Acerspyro Like rails, ladders, doors, fruits, depth in some blocks like chests and furnaces 22:01 marktraceur > things in 3D 22:02 marktraceur CRAZY TALK 22:02 Acerspyro 3d models* 22:02 marktraceur :) 22:02 VanessaE jordan4ibanez: not right now, but maybe later 22:03 VanessaE my servers are ...overloaded :-/ 22:04 Acerspyro VanessaE: btw, for map backups, what about filesystem snapshots? 22:04 VanessaE ext4 doesn't support that afaik 22:04 sofar it doesn't 22:05 VanessaE so I just rsync to another dir for now 22:05 sofar the proper way to backup sqlite data is some sort of sqlite dump 22:05 est31 its not sqlite 22:05 VanessaE sofar: I shut the servers down, rsync the entire folder, restart the servers 22:05 VanessaE (and as est31 indicates, it ain't sqlite. it's leveldb) 22:05 sofar that works 22:05 Acerspyro VanessaE: You could always use another FS 22:06 VanessaE Acerspyro: maybe but I use what I know for now 22:06 Acerspyro It would remove the need to reboot 22:06 Acerspyro VanessaE: You can always learn more :) 22:06 sofar btrfs snapshots may work for you, at least you can make them often, but I don't know if your data is coherent when you snapshot (that depends on the way the DB writes) 22:07 sofar I never heard about leveldb, does minetest support it? 22:08 VanessaE yep 22:08 VanessaE natively it supports levelsb, sqlite, and redis 22:08 VanessaE leveldb* 22:08 * sofar reads the Database_Backends wiki page 22:08 VanessaE provided you compiled support in, of course. 22:10 sofar I should switch to leveldb... might do that tonight 22:10 * sofar at work atm 22:12 alket is there any installer for 4.11 win x64 ? 22:12 alket my friend is having problem installing from zip 22:13 VanessaE there is not. 22:13 VanessaE just unzip the file 22:13 VanessaE then go into the folder that is created, go into bin, and run minetest.exe 22:13 alket VanessaE: thanks 22:31 brontosaurusrex how do i give tnt to new users in creative world? 22:33 Acerspyro brontosaurusrex: /give 22:34 brontosaurusrex Acerspyro: Acerspyro in minetest.conf? 22:34 Acerspyro oh 22:34 Acerspyro I misread 22:34 Acerspyro "users in new creative world" 22:34 Acerspyro uhh, how about just asking someone else? :D 23:18 jordan4ibanez Hey guys, here's a new version https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11027&p=168388#p168388 Try to crash it lol 23:23 sofar if I run a -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 server, where do I put mods? 23:23 sofar VanessaE: you would know :) 23:24 VanessaE in the minetest dir, under mods :) 23:24 VanessaE er 23:24 VanessaE misread 23:24 VanessaE in ~/.minetest/mods 23:25 sofar ok 23:25 sofar can I put games under ~/.minetest/games as well? 23:25 VanessaE yep 23:25 sofar excellent 23:29 sofar hmm, I could git submodule make my entire server git uptadable 23:29 sofar up to date able can't type 23:31 sofar I should make sedimentology at least understand moretrees and mg additional ground content blocks 23:53 sofar hmm, I really don't like the fact that mods are "named" by the name of the folder 23:53 sofar and adding insult to injury, MT complains about "-" characters in them 23:53 VanessaE most everyone else dislikes that too 23:54 VanessaE there has been a proposal in the past to do away with that system, perhaps in favor of the mod name being explicitly specified in a file in the mod 23:54 sofar that's the only solution, really 23:54 VanessaE never went anywhere because we couldn't get anyone to agree to DO it. 23:54 sofar lol 23:54 sofar 15:54:34: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "adv_spawning" accessed at /home/minetest/.minetest/mods/adv_spawning/init.lua:13 23:55 sofar this mod attempts to address itself? 23:55 sofar is the force_load.txt file format documented somewhere? or is there a mod to administrate it? 23:55 VanessaE that's managed by technic 23:56 VanessaE but as far as I was able to tell, the numbers therein are mapblock hashes 23:57 VanessaE this might decode it, if I coded it right: http://pastebin.com/mtDiYAkw 23:58 VanessaE (I did this a while ago but I'm not 100% sure it's valid)