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Make indentation consistent 137a7614a http://git.io/eAo5dQ (152014-12-25T04:06:15+01:00) 03:34 hoodedice hello 03:34 acerspyro yo 03:35 hoodedice so yeah, new release tomorrow 03:35 acerspyro Will check it out when I'm home 03:35 hoodedice aight 03:35 acerspyro Well, how big would it be? 03:36 acerspyro in size 03:36 hoodedice 6 MB base game 03:36 acerspyro not bad 03:36 hoodedice there's nothing in it 03:36 acerspyro Aw 03:36 acerspyro That's why I didn't like it 03:36 hoodedice but if you get too involved, worlds can grow to over 5 GB in size 03:36 acerspyro I only got the base game :P 03:36 hoodedice you need to expand it with mods 03:36 hoodedice try hmm 03:37 hoodedice !g VanessaE dreambuilder 03:37 MinetestBot hoodedice: https://github.com/VanessaE/dreambuilder_game 03:37 acerspyro should have a mods installing interface built into it 03:37 VanessaE there is a mod-installer built in 03:37 hoodedice yes, try adding this subgame ^ to your /game/ directory 03:37 VanessaE but you don't actually need it 03:37 hoodedice gives you a ton of pritti blocks 03:37 VanessaE you can just copy your mods to /mods and name their folders properly, and enable them in your menu. 03:37 VanessaE there's not much to it 03:37 acerspyro how big is it? 03:38 VanessaE dreambuilder is about 56 MB (uncompressed) at present 03:38 acerspyro oh 03:38 acerspyro too big for atm 03:38 VanessaE with git history, rather larger :) 03:38 VanessaE wat? 03:38 acerspyro VanessaE, I can't download over 10 mb, 10 GB/month 03:38 hoodedice ow 03:38 acerspyro Cap blows VERY quickly, and it's expensive. 03:39 Sokomine the dreambuilder game is really recommendable. it does have a lot of mods and is really built to make builders happy :-) 03:39 hoodedice I can guess... 03:39 hoodedice oh hai there Sokomine, I was beginning to miss you 03:39 acerspyro At home, I have 60 gb/month, 50/10 connection 03:39 VanessaE well 56 MB ain't that much, even against a 10 GB cap 03:39 hoodedice how you been? 03:39 acerspyro I can go nuts, download 2 gb files. 03:39 acerspyro VanessaE, with everything else, it is 03:39 Sokomine acerspyro: it's mb, not gb :-) 03:39 VanessaE btw with git history it's 111 MB. 03:39 acerspyro I've used 75 mb by using IRC 2/3rd of my day 03:40 VanessaE acerspyro: 56 Megs, that's pretty small. 03:40 acerspyro Sokomine, I mean, I can download 2 gb files if I wanted to 03:40 acerspyro VanessaE, it is, not for here 03:40 VanessaE you need better internet :) 03:40 Sokomine hi hoodedice. i'm a bit busy with mg_villages. the single houses started to spawn on top of the villages, which is a very annoying bug 03:40 VanessaE anyway good luck then 03:40 acerspyro VanessaE, I have better internet at home 03:40 acerspyro I'm at my grandparents for xmas 03:40 hoodedice wish I had as much luck with minetest lua as I had with unity's C# 03:40 hoodedice Unity3D's C# came quite naturally to me 03:41 acerspyro They live somewhere lost, with only shitty satellite internet service. 03:41 Sokomine ok, on a mobile phone connection, 35 mb might ruin you under certain circumstances 03:41 hoodedice acerspyro: The dreambuilder sub_game is 23 MB 03:41 hoodedice on download 03:41 Sokomine acerspyro: that's pretty much for irc. how many channels did you join? 03:42 acerspyro Sokomine, This is kind of like a mobile phone connection, since it's 3G 03:42 VanessaE well yeah compressed it is somewhat smaller 03:42 acerspyro Sokomine, uhh, 9? 03:42 hoodedice not to forget, they might also be visiting links 03:42 Sokomine hoodedice: lua's not that bad. it's certainly annoying in some aspects, but there have been some nice debugging features beeing added recently. it now tells you when you accidently use a new global variable due to mistyping 03:42 acerspyro yeah 03:43 acerspyro I also navigate around 03:43 acerspyro But I don't do youtube or anything that would use a lot 03:43 Sokomine ah, ok, satellite internet may be very expensive 03:43 acerspyro Sokomine, very. 03:43 VanessaE actually, the tarball for dreambuilder is only about 20 MB 03:43 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/Dreambuilder_Game.tar.bz2 03:43 VanessaE (but that one lacks git history) 03:43 hoodedice Soko, I use it with a nice IDE, ZeroBrane Studio, but I don't find time to learn it when I can mess around with C# =D 03:43 acerspyro ty 03:44 Sokomine acerspyro: turn image loading in your browser off. that might help a bit already. and of course use the usual privacy protection tools like requestpolicy etc in your browser 03:45 Sokomine today, web pages tend to be quite big. i'm really astonished that you managed to get a significant amount of traffic on irc. even with 9 high-traffic channels :-) 03:45 acerspyro I use adblock, removes a lot of the bandwidth already 03:47 Sokomine that may help a bit already, yes, but it's not really sufficient. at least not for me. but then, for me, webpages that require javascript tend to be white, empty pages :-) 03:47 hoodedice I am sleepy, see ya'll tomorrow 03:48 acerspyro k 03:48 hoodedice Sokomine, here's to seeing you around *wink* 03:48 Sokomine on mobile connections, not loading images can help a lot. that's even valid for the minetest forum. just visit the screenshots thread...lots of big screenshots :-) 03:48 acerspyro wet dreams 03:48 acerspyro :) 03:48 Sokomine sleep well, hoodedice 03:48 hoodedice (inb4 hoodedice is a creep) 03:48 acerspyro hoodedice, I've seen worse 03:48 acerspyro *cough*myself*cough* 03:48 hoodedice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTENT9gQxCE&feature=youtu.be&t=2m31s 03:51 Sokomine creepy village with badly spawned house: https://mediacru.sh/bnd_BvalSVSe.png (don't load if you're on a mobile connection) 03:52 acerspyro Ok so where do I fuck the dreambuilder_game again? 03:53 hoodedice you fuck it in minetest/game/ 03:53 VanessaE well don't fuck it here. 03:53 acerspyro lol 03:53 VanessaE I didn't design the game to be fucked. 03:53 VanessaE I designed it to be played. :) 03:53 acerspyro VanessaE, Who knows! 03:53 Sokomine wonder what might come out of that? perhaps acerspyro is software as well...a mod... 03:53 acerspyro I don't have a game folder 03:53 hoodedice ... 03:53 VanessaE make one. 03:53 hoodedice this turned dark quickly 03:54 acerspyro in .minetest? 03:54 VanessaE yep. /games/dreambuilder_game 03:54 Sokomine hoodedice: that bug's still annoying me :-) 03:54 VanessaE so just mkdir /games and put dreambuilder et al. there. 03:55 hoodedice you can put a checking loop... 03:57 Sokomine thought i had such a one. wonder why it's not working. must be some stupid error 03:57 acerspyro You will be able to call errors stupid the day they will have a mind of their own. 03:58 acerspyro I FOUND A ROCK! 03:58 acerspyro :D :D :D 03:58 acerspyro BSTDAYOFMYLIFE420 03:58 Sokomine i'm afraid the error will be even more stupid than that :) 03:59 acerspyro omg mobs are buggy 03:59 VanessaE can't be helped, minetest is glitchy when it comes to mobs 04:02 acerspyro Twigs? 04:02 VanessaE yep 04:02 acerspyro Such level of details 04:02 VanessaE there's lots of stuff on the map after all the mapgen stuff is run 04:02 VanessaE (I configured it to run in layers to avoid lagging too much) 04:02 acerspyro argh why can't you change graphics settings without leaving the game 04:04 VanessaE heh 04:05 acerspyro it's so slow to load 04:05 VanessaE turn off preload-item-visuals in your config 04:06 acerspyro this needs better images. 04:06 VanessaE I know 04:06 acerspyro I can help 04:07 VanessaE pull requests are welcome, but textures should be directed at their individual mods 04:07 acerspyro ok 04:07 acerspyro I guess this is your mod? 04:07 VanessaE plantlife stuff is more or less mine yeah 04:08 VanessaE (several components therein have been imported from elsewhere) 04:09 VanessaE be sure you're using a current development build of Minetest btw 04:09 VanessaE otherwise you'll see stuff looking weird, like apples 04:10 acerspyro I am 04:10 VanessaE ok 04:11 acerspyro 0.4.10? 04:11 VanessaE 0.4.10 is old 04:11 acerspyro hm 04:11 VanessaE 0.4.11 is about to be released, like today or tomorrow 04:11 VanessaE use a development build until then 04:12 acerspyro what VCS do you use 04:12 VanessaE git 04:12 VanessaE you can clone it from here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest 04:12 acerspyro once again 04:12 acerspyro how big 04:12 VanessaE right. 04:12 VanessaE um 04:12 acerspyro :P 04:12 VanessaE lemme check 04:13 VanessaE the zip of the sources is 9.5 MB at present 04:13 VanessaE I don't think that includes any git history though 04:13 VanessaE with git history, it's 537 MB 04:14 acerspyro lol 04:14 Sokomine at least that ought to be compressible 04:14 acerspyro I'd rather get the zip 04:14 VanessaE (well that's the uncompressed size on my disk) 04:14 acerspyro I got it uncompressed 04:14 Sokomine might be due to your improvements of the graphic files 04:16 acerspyro lol I got install deps 04:17 VanessaE yep 04:17 acerspyro YO FOOL'D ME 04:17 acerspyro jk 04:17 VanessaE :P 04:19 acerspyro building 04:23 acerspyro VanessaE, how many times have people asked how to build the game? 04:23 acerspyro I wonder how many of them can't read readme's. 04:24 VanessaE a number of times I guess 04:24 VanessaE enough so that Calinou has this "one-liner" on one of his forum topics to assist in that 04:27 acerspyro lol 04:27 acerspyro Calinou can be annoying at times. 04:27 acerspyro idk about here, but on other channels 04:27 acerspyro Anyways, gn 07:00 stormchaser3000 does anyone know what compiler compiles programs using .xml files? 07:01 VanessaE not familiar with such a thing; xml is just a markup language. 07:01 VanessaE Eclipse seems to use them though 07:03 VanessaE bbl 08:45 someguy_irc_ k 08:58 Krock Merry Christmas! 08:58 ElectronLibre Merry christmas to you too, Krock. 08:58 Krock Thanks :D 08:59 * Krock looks at the topic description: >Minetest 0.4.11 releases on the 24th. 08:59 ElectronLibre Yes, indeed :°... 08:59 ElectronLibre (But don't worry it's compiling apparently) 09:26 * Krock builds a 0.4.11 win32 binary 09:26 stormchaser3000 krock: how in the universe do you build windows builds 09:26 stormchaser3000 i have attempted to 09:26 stormchaser3000 but failed a lot 09:27 Krock stormchaser3000, I only can build win32.. it took me two weeks to get it correctly 09:27 Krock when you've got all libraries, then you're on the right way 09:27 stormchaser3000 lol taking me a few years and i still can't figure it out but i think i can compile some other programs 09:28 stormchaser3000 such as manic digger 09:28 Krock that's c# 09:35 Krock Fastest build from scratch! 9:35.76 minutes 11:02 casimir Since the right click craft feature was changed I don't know how I am supposed to use it now. It does work with double click, but then I also place two items... 11:09 Krock casimir, one click in one field, an other click into the next. I hate this change too 11:18 * ElectronLibre compiled MT in 3 minutes with his new computer, great! 11:19 * mitrom played minetest in 2 minutes 11:22 Zeno` Any news on when MT will be released? 11:22 ElectronLibre Nothing new. 11:55 mitrom who here has the slowest internet? 11:55 * mitrom has 2mbits 11:58 Jordach ElectronLibre, compiled in 1 minute under a 2 CPU core VM 11:58 mitrom well sir 11:58 mitrom i compiled in 5 minutes on a 24 core amazon instance 11:59 mitrom also 11:59 mitrom merry christmas! 11:59 ElectronLibre You broke my dreams Jordach. At least it's good. 11:59 Krock merry xmas 4 u 2 11:59 ElectronLibre Merry christmas too mitrom. 11:59 mitrom Merry merry 12:00 mitrom let's make a christmas server 12:00 Krock *knock* *knock* - Who's there? - Merry - Merry who? - Merry Christmas! 12:00 mitrom krock krock 12:00 Krock wat wat 12:01 mitrom krock 12:01 mitrom krock who? 12:01 Krock krock christmas doesn't work 12:02 mitrom Krock Krock - Who's there? - Krock - Krock who? - Krock. 12:02 Krock omg wow. 12:03 Viper168 krockmas? 12:03 gregorycu Well well well 12:03 gregorycu Merry Christmas 12:06 gregorycu Someone should update the topic 12:15 EvergreenTree Merry christmas everyone! (well, at least in my time zone) 12:15 gregorycu Thanks bruf 12:16 * EvergreenTree givees a blender kitten to sfan5 12:17 Jordach EvergreenTree, :3 12:18 * Jordach made £20 12:18 EvergreenTree Recently I've been giving haskell a shot, as I think it would be good to learn functional programming 12:18 Jordach exio4, ^ 12:19 * Jordach wouldn't mind SLI GTX Titan Zs 12:19 exio4 Jordach, what! 12:19 EvergreenTree I wouldn't mind them either,but that seems a bit overkill 12:20 Jordach exio4, think of all that rendering power 12:20 EvergreenTree Jordach: You could easily get more than enough rendering power with a single gpu 12:20 exio4 Jordach, I'd go with all that money to hdds, ram, cpu... 12:20 Jordach exio4, my end all build is Quad Intel Xeons 12:21 exio4 lol intel xeons 12:21 EvergreenTree You know those aren't really made for desktops right? :P 12:21 exio4 so what 12:21 Jordach EvergreenTree, my infinite disposable income allows for this shit 12:21 EvergreenTree Well, if you want to do it, that's fine 12:22 exio4 the difference between "intel desktops cpus" and "intel server cpus" is the number of locked and unlocked features 12:22 exio4 you never get all of them 12:22 Jordach EvergreenTree, i might actually get a framerate in Assassins Creed Unity 12:22 exio4 only a subset, like VTx-d, overclocking, ECC ram, ... 12:23 EvergreenTree Has anyone else here had any experience with functional programming languages? I'm curious 12:23 exio4 \o EvergreenTree 12:24 EvergreenTree Would haskell be a good starting language for that, or would another language be prefferable? 12:24 Krock lua? 12:24 EvergreenTree Krock: That's not what I'm thinking 12:24 exio4 what are your previous skills in the programming world? 12:25 EvergreenTree Python, a bit of c/c++ and various other OOP languages 12:25 EvergreenTree like lua 12:25 exio4 yeah, I think it is good :P 12:26 EvergreenTree Thanks. I just thought it would be intereesting to try something new 12:27 exio4 Haskell is kind of new in the sense of development, the core language is really conservative, but there are lots of "standard" new extensions that are really powerful and mind blowing 12:29 * Jordach wonders what Valve has as the free game forever game on Steam 14:27 hoodedice Hello everyminer! 14:27 hoodedice http://i.imgur.com/CnKS5EM.png 14:29 hoodedice uh, sorry, wrong pic; http://imgur.com/gallery/Q8nDABi 14:37 Krock xD 14:40 ElectronLibre (hoodedice, everyone can, at least, be happy to celebrate christmas with their families (if they have..), no matter what they believe in.) 14:40 hoodedice but it is haraaaaaaaaaam 14:42 SylvieLorxu Happy whatever you celebrate :D 14:43 hoodedice ... I celebrate new minetest realease days 14:43 hoodedice but it seems we missed one 14:44 ElectronLibre The developpers themselves don't know if they are gonna release it today.. ._. 14:45 exio4 sounds like previous year 14:46 Jordach /msg #minetest-dev release 0.4.11!!!!111!! 14:48 Krock Jordach, see latest git commit 14:48 Jordach link pls 14:48 Krock !git 14:48 MinetestBot someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Git, please go to: http://git-scm.com/book/ 14:49 Krock no no, MinetestBot! 14:49 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/3f83ca 14:49 ElectronLibre Jordach: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/3f83ca29d3cbe9d283c11ab836cc24b2cb99539d 14:49 Krock ninja'd 14:50 Jordach ChanServ pls 14:51 Zeno` hang on... 0.4.11 has been released? 14:51 Jordach yesh 14:52 Zeno` where? :( 14:52 Jordach [14:49:15] https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/3f83ca 14:53 Zeno` there are no builds for that though 14:53 ElectronLibre Yet Jordach, there is nothing new on http://minetest.net/downloads, neither on http://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases 14:53 ElectronLibre (http://minetest.net/download sorry) 14:54 Jordach sfan5, Krock do yer thing 14:54 Zeno` there is no 0.4.11 branch 14:54 SylvieLorxu Hmm, updates 14:54 SylvieLorxu "git pull" :D 14:54 Jordach Zeno`, stable-0.4 14:54 ElectronLibre (I suppose he means "Create branch, tags, and compile." 14:55 exio4 ghost release 14:55 * ElectronLibre adds an ) 14:56 Zeno` hmmm made that commit in preparation for the release and then nothing happened 14:56 Zeno` AFAIK 14:57 * Krock slaps Jordach with his build 15:15 hoodedice I'm considering that 0.4.11 is NOT out 15:15 hoodedice yet 15:16 hoodedice so not updating twatter 15:18 hoodedice ohai proller 15:18 mitrom hi troller 15:18 mitrom proller even 15:18 proller hi 16:00 Jordach VanessaE, pls 16:01 hoodedice wat 16:02 VanessaE hi 16:02 VanessaE brb 16:36 * Jordach opens his 5th beer 16:39 shadowzone Jordach: must be Christmas 16:39 * Jordach adds more kittens to BFD 16:45 Jordach to pass out or not 17:01 acerspyro Dam shit motherfucker 17:01 acerspyro Compiled minetest, now it will only use /usr/local/ as its home dir. 17:02 acerspyro Is it a compile-time option or something? I want it to run from ~/.minetest 17:03 acerspyro Btw, I ultimately fail to see the point with texture filtering with low res texture packs. 17:03 ElectronLibre Have you tried with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1? 17:03 Jordach acerspyro, go check out HDX 17:04 acerspyro ElectronLibre, Yup 17:04 acerspyro That's what I used cmake with 17:04 acerspyro Jordach, HDX? 17:04 Jordach !g minetest HDXC 17:04 MinetestBot Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=19702 17:04 Jordach even better 17:04 * Jordach pets MinetestBot 17:04 acerspyro How many of you are french speakers? 17:05 Megaf Merry Christmas folks! 17:05 acerspyro You too 17:05 acerspyro :D 17:06 Megaf :D 17:06 ElectronLibre (You can go to #minetest-fr to speak french) 17:06 acerspyro Naw, no problem 17:06 acerspyro Was just asking, since I saw your name and I knew Calinou was french 17:06 Megaf This year is our first Christmas living together in our own (rented) apartment. 17:06 acerspyro I'm quebecois 17:07 * ElectronLibre wonders what is Calinou's idle time. 17:07 exio4 /whois 17:07 * ElectronLibre doesn't even see Calinou connected. 17:07 exio4 oh 17:07 acerspyro 12:07:11: ERROR[main]: Provided world path doesn't exist: /usr/local/bin/../worlds/world 17:07 acerspyro 12:07:11: ERROR[main]: Error writing configuration file: "/usr/local/bin/../minetest.conf" 17:07 acerspyro acerspyro@FORTH212:~/.minetest$ 17:07 acerspyro Calinou never heard of /quit, he always resets the connection. 17:07 ElectronLibre ^ exio4, whois is the first command I've learnt to use, after /me. And it's the one I use the most. 17:08 ElectronLibre I suppose he just closes the window / shutdowns his computer. 17:08 acerspyro lol 17:08 acerspyro In #redeclipse, he usually gives a shitty reply to something we tell him, then he rageuits. 17:08 exio4 sounds like a normal calinou 17:09 acerspyro lol 17:10 Jordach [off] i know certain things about Calinou that i managed with careful mind conditioning 17:14 Jordach [off] she's mostly introverted and struggles with direct confrontation 17:15 shadowzone Calinou is a girl? 17:15 Jordach yes. 17:15 shadowzone Look at that, you learn something new everyday. 17:16 ElectronLibre [off] I thought by listening his/her/whatever voice Calinou was a man, I've learnt something too. 17:17 * ElectronLibre discovered a new way to avoid loggingbot_ to register what he says. 17:17 shadowzone So, what's with the [off] thing? 17:17 exio4 [off] not logged by loggingbot_ 17:17 Jordach prepending messages with that turns loggingbot_ off for that message 17:18 shadowzone cool 17:19 exio4 Jordach, I don't trust you 17:20 * shadowzone meows at Jordach 17:20 ElectronLibre See : http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-12-25#i_4079117 17:20 shadowzone cool 17:21 Jordach exio4, hacking electronics is old hat, hacking people is new hat 17:25 acerspyro Calinou's a girl? 17:25 acerspyro Huh. 17:26 exio4 if Jordach removed the s I would say Jordach right, otherwise I am not sure ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:27 Jordach exio4, eh? 17:27 Jordach what "s" 17:27 exio4 she -> he 17:27 exio4 s/right/is right/ 17:28 hoodedice wat 17:28 hoodedice Calinou is a girl! 17:28 hoodedice ?! 17:28 acerspyro General panic. 17:28 acerspyro :D 17:28 hoodedice ohai acerspyro 17:28 acerspyro hoodedice, hi 17:29 acerspyro I still didn't manage to get minetest to use ~/.minetest instead of /usr/local/ 17:29 * ElectronLibre imagines Calinou would turn very angry if he saw that. 17:29 acerspyro she* 17:30 hoodedice Calinou is a girl?! 17:30 hoodedice !g calinou 17:30 MinetestBot hoodedice: https://github.com/Calinou 17:30 ElectronLibre (For voxels' sake stop repeating that :x...) 17:30 Jordach Calinou has once posted her DA page by accident 17:30 ElectronLibre [off] DA? 17:30 acerspyro I never voice chatted with cal 17:30 Jordach ElectronLibre, deviantart 17:31 hoodedice " Neither of these organisms approved your “license”" -- Calinou 17:31 hoodedice > organisms 17:31 * ElectronLibre creates the customized command : off => [off] &2 17:31 hoodedice typo of the year, Calinou 17:31 acerspyro Comes from Calinours, it's carebear in french. 17:32 Jordach acerspyro, including "Hug" 17:32 hoodedice ew care bear 17:32 acerspyro Yeah 17:32 acerspyro Caliner 17:32 ElectronLibre [off] (How did they find that? ._.) 17:33 acerspyro [off] Find what? Its gender? 17:33 hoodedice what is [off]? 17:33 acerspyro it's mosquito spraty 17:33 acerspyro spray* 17:33 ElectronLibre [off] No a translation. But from you, who are french, it's not surprising. 17:33 hoodedice [off] does this work? 17:33 ElectronLibre off = not registered by loggingbot_. 17:33 hoodedice ooooooH 17:33 Jordach ElectronLibre, hyrbid data mining and personality analysis 17:33 hoodedice [off] best thing ever! 17:33 acerspyro [off] ElectronLibre, you mean me? 17:33 hoodedice [off] FUCK THE WORLD 17:33 ElectronLibre see => http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/today 17:33 hoodedice !irc 17:34 acerspyro [off] hoodedice, you'll get herpes if you do that 17:34 hoodedice [off] but I already herpes 17:34 ElectronLibre [off] I wonder if my customized off command works. 17:34 hoodedice [off] how does this even work? 17:34 ElectronLibre It disables loggingbot_ from registering the message in the logs. 17:35 acerspyro hoodedice, The IRC bot records the chat, with the off tag, it doesn't record 17:35 acerspyro Nothing magical 17:35 hoodedice why did I know of this before? 17:35 acerspyro I'd like it to be something like 17:35 hoodedice *didn't 17:35 acerspyro \\ Hi, hidden chat 17:35 acerspyro Quicker than typing [off] 17:35 hoodedice even better 17:35 hoodedice a seperate channel 17:35 ElectronLibre That's why I've created a customized command. 17:35 acerspyro no 17:36 ElectronLibre /off => msg [off] 17:37 Jordach [off] Calinou isn't a saint like we think, as she has told me that the reason why she lost her moderation rights on Minecraft Forums was due to griefing on a large server 17:37 Krock [off] /me does not care 17:37 hoodedice [off] whoever thought calinou was a saint? 17:38 ElectronLibre [off] Who do cares about those things anyway? 17:38 acerspyro [off] Non, c'est un sein :D 17:38 hoodedice [off] je ne parle pas francais 17:38 * ElectronLibre loves the way when he reads a off message he can hear whispers in his minds. 17:38 acerspyro [off] mon cul 17:38 hoodedice [off] nes? ne? 17:39 ElectronLibre [off] acerspyro Stay polite please :/ 17:39 acerspyro [off] It's not offensive so long as he doesn't understand it 17:39 ElectronLibre It's "ne" hoodedice. 17:39 acerspyro [off] :D 17:39 hoodedice [off] #Google Translate 17:39 hoodedice [off] my donkey? 17:39 acerspyro [off] LOL 17:39 acerspyro [off] "My ass" 17:39 hoodedice [off] jk, I know what it means 17:40 acerspyro [off] And you chose to offend yourself, so it's your problem from now on. :D 17:40 ElectronLibre [off] Ayway, there are french people on this channel too, even operators if I remember correctly, and they surely don't want you to swear in the channel, even in off, even in french :/ 17:40 hoodedice [off] nope, I just tend to take it on a lighter note 17:40 acerspyro [off] It's not in the rules 17:40 hoodedice [off] it is an unsaid rule 17:40 hoodedice [off] like "Do not dox" 17:41 hoodedice [off] *doxx 17:41 acerspyro [off] It's not in the rule. Lots of channels don't mind swearing. 17:41 acerspyro [off] Doxx? 17:41 hoodedice [off] this is a kid friendly channel 17:41 ElectronLibre [off] Do whatever you want, just face the consequences.. 17:41 acerspyro [off] It's not specified. 17:41 exio4 I'll kill acerspyro, hoodedice and ElectronLibre 17:41 ElectronLibre What did I do? ._. 17:41 acerspyro exio4, ty, I guess that solves the problem 17:41 exio4 just stop using [off] 17:42 hoodedice for using [off], I guess? 17:42 acerspyro ok 17:42 hoodedice ah yes 17:42 acerspyro [on] Hi 17:42 ElectronLibre Ok, we all stop. 17:42 acerspyro right 17:42 acerspyro So................. 17:42 acerspyro What about my issue where it will only run from /usr/local? 17:44 hoodedice something something windows 8.1 is better something 17:44 acerspyro something something yourself 17:44 hoodedice love yourself? 17:44 hoodedice k 17:45 acerspyro lol 17:45 hoodedice brb 17:46 harrison the sword that executeth the law is in it, and not above it -- james harrington 17:49 harrison 01,09memehopper 17:49 acerspyro Konversation? 17:50 acerspyro 11,07Konversation Rocks! 17:51 hoodedice ...je ne parle pas francais... 18:04 benoliver999 Merry Christmas Minetesters! http://b999.me/b 18:04 LittleJoe same to you XD 18:09 Krock benoliver999, your cerftivicate isn't valid 18:09 Krock *certificate 18:10 benoliver999 Ugh yeah I'm sorry, it's just a little site. I use a Gandi cert but it gets rejected on a few clients 18:10 benoliver999 It's just a crappy pixel art santa anyway 18:11 Krock k 18:11 * Jordach eats more alcoholic chocolate 18:12 * Krock doesn't want to see a drunk Jordach 18:12 Jordach you're not ma family 18:17 acerspyro acerspyro: Jordach is the Sam II in our screwed up family 18:20 Jordach Sokomine_, nice disconnect 18:20 mitrom yup 18:22 * Jordach programs in the spawning for the kittens 18:22 sfan5 !op 18:23 Jordach hai der sfan5 18:23 sfan5 !deop 18:23 sfan5 hi 18:24 hoodedice hai sfan 18:24 hoodedice did you report that bug? 18:24 sfan5 hoodedice: i did not quite understand the bug 18:25 hoodedice were the wielditem textures not messed up when shaders are on? 18:25 sfan5 yes 18:25 sfan5 thats already in the bugtracker 18:25 hoodedice oh okay thanks 18:26 hoodedice also 18:26 hoodedice *psst* 18:26 hoodedice Calinou is a girl 18:27 ElectronLibre And? 18:27 acerspyro He's got a problem with women. 18:27 acerspyro >:[ 18:27 sfan5 guys pls 18:29 Jordach acerspyro, hoodedice is from India :P 18:29 hoodedice I lived in the UAE 18:29 acerspyro and? 18:30 * ElectronLibre meows at sfan5 18:30 * sfan5 bites ElectronLibre 18:30 Jordach (that was my estimate by ~1000 miles) 18:30 * acerspyro licks everyone in the room 18:30 ElectronLibre Ouch, why? 18:30 acerspyro ElectronLibre, He thinks you're tasty 18:31 benoliver999 Krock: did you accept the cert? If not, would you mind giving it another go please? http://b999.me/b 18:31 benoliver999 I think I hadn't installed the intermediate cert properly 18:33 sfan5 benoliver999: the cert works for me 18:33 sfan5 !seen sapier 18:33 MinetestBot sfan5: sapier was last seen at 2014-08-25 05:57:29 UTC on #minetest 18:33 hoodedice dat link tho 18:33 benoliver999 Thanks man 18:33 benoliver999 hoodedice: ? 18:33 hoodedice nothing 18:33 benoliver999 Sorry it's christmas, my food coma is making me slow 18:34 Jordach ^ same here with alcohol 18:34 acerspyro Yall got too much to drink 18:34 benoliver999 Time for a top up 18:36 acerspyro I still have the same minetest problem 18:36 acerspyro :C 18:40 acerspyro got it 18:40 acerspyro was in ./bin 18:44 acerspyro ,lc 18:44 acerspyro Is the local server supposed to be laggy? 18:44 Jordach acerspyro, err nope 18:44 acerspyro Segmentation fault. 18:44 acerspyro :S 18:44 Jordach Minetest_Game has been like that for a while now 18:45 acerspyro This is dreambuilder 18:45 Jordach then most definitely 18:45 hoodedice Jordach: I told him minetest had improved 18:45 hoodedice *comparatively* 18:45 Jordach BFD on my quad core hasn't had any issues with speed on 64bi 18:45 Jordach bit 18:45 acerspyro Well, I have an acceptable FPS 18:45 Jordach despite having the worst fucking ABMs ever devised 18:45 acerspyro about 50-60 18:46 acerspyro But the server is slow 18:46 acerspyro I press q, item drops 2 seconds later 18:46 acerspyro segfaulted again 18:46 Jordach acerspyro, ./minetestserver then join it 18:46 acerspyro This world segfaults as soon as I join it 18:46 Jordach using 127.0.0.1 port 30000 18:49 acerspyro I get some LUA errors in the server console 18:50 Jordach there we go] 18:50 Jordach drop me a pastie 18:50 sfan5 acerspyro: Lua not LUA 18:50 acerspyro I tend to capitalize stuff 18:51 sfan5 YOU TEND TO CAPITITALIZE STUFF? 18:51 acerspyro lol 18:51 sfan5 LUA is still incorrect 18:51 hoodedice lUA is more correct, in fact 18:51 acerspyro http://pastie.org/9798702 18:51 acerspyro Jordach, ^ 18:51 sfan5 hoodedice: no, it's Lua 18:52 hoodedice sfan, jk 18:52 Jordach acerspyro, those aren't bugs 18:52 hoodedice y so sirius? 18:52 Jordach there small issues that could makes mods faster 18:52 acerspyro client segfaulted 18:52 acerspyro No error, no nothing, just segfault 18:53 sfan5 use gdb 18:53 acerspyro I am 18:54 Krock !LUA 18:54 Krock mhm there should be a command which returns a link to the LUA repo on github 18:55 hoodedice !pil 18:55 MinetestBot someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Lua, please go to: http://lua.org/pil/ 18:55 hoodedice I love MinetestBot's retorts 18:55 acerspyro 0x00000000006c70db in mapblock_mesh_generate_special(MeshMakeData*, MeshCollector&) () 18:55 Krock hoodedice, that's not LUA. 18:55 hoodedice !tell MinetestBot I love you 18:55 MinetestBot I'm not dumb, you know? 18:55 sfan5 acerspyro: use a debug build 18:55 acerspyro I am 18:55 hoodedice !g LUA git 18:55 MinetestBot hoodedice: https://github.com/LuaDist/lua 18:56 acerspyro It has debug symbols 18:56 Krock hmm quite hard to find LUA 18:56 acerspyro I'm being disturbed, what's the command to save a trace 18:56 Krock https://github.com/mniip/LUA 18:56 sfan5 hoodedice: https://github.com/mniip/LUA 18:56 hoodedice ahahahaha 18:56 hoodedice this is nice 18:56 Krock ninja'd 18:57 sfan5 acerspyro: do 'bt pull' and pastebin the outpud 18:57 sfan5 output* 18:57 acerspyro full*? 18:57 sfan5 yes 18:58 acerspyro http://pastie.org/9798707 18:59 sfan5 acerspyro: it does not have debug symbols 18:59 sfan5 (at least not minetest) 18:59 acerspyro What do you mean 18:59 acerspyro It would show stuff like (??) if it didn't 18:59 acerspyro oh 18:59 sfan5 wrong 18:59 sfan5 it says No symbol table info available. 18:59 acerspyro no symbol table info available 18:59 acerspyro How do I make a debug build 19:00 sfan5 recompile minetest with -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug 19:00 acerspyro this is the cmake 19:01 Jordach cmake . -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 19:01 Jordach try that in a folder on the desktop or whereever 19:01 acerspyro did 19:02 acerspyro building now 19:02 acerspyro I never used cmake to build before 19:09 harrison a shetland pony walks into a bar. 19:09 harrison the bartender says "Gee, I think there is a virus going around... 19:09 harrison because I am also a little hoarse!" 19:11 acerspyro ok here we go 19:11 hoodedice a horse walks into a bar. 19:13 acerspyro 27948 lines of debug info? 19:13 acerspyro really? 19:14 acerspyro 2.3 mb of debug info :D 19:15 acerspyro pastie only does up to 64kb 19:17 hoodedice later people 19:17 acerspyro Jordach, Is a debug trace supposed to be that big? 19:17 acerspyro https://www.dropbox.com/s/8zl1htx0jaa09g4/mt_gdb.txt?dl=0 19:18 sfan5 acerspyro: it usually isn't that big 19:18 acerspyro haha 19:18 sfan5 so 19:18 acerspyro This is epic huge 19:19 acerspyro oh 19:19 acerspyro It has info for each single loaded tile in the game 19:19 sfan5 collector=... 19:19 sfan5 p = 19:19 sfan5 how useful 19:19 acerspyro lol 19:20 acerspyro how would I compile without optimizing? 19:22 sfan5 acerspyro: -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS='-O0' 19:22 acerspyro you want useful info? 19:22 acerspyro It doesn't happen with default settings 19:23 acerspyro Default graphics settings 19:23 acerspyro ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 512 mb, FGLRX from repo, Ubuntu 14.10, KDE desktop 19:24 acerspyro let me try all the options 19:24 acerspyro wait 19:24 acerspyro Nevermind, it still crashed after a while 19:25 acerspyro *sigh* recompiling again 19:27 acerspyro sfan5, to use 4 cores, you use -j5, right? 19:35 acerspyro gnuh 19:36 acerspyro sfan5, still optimized out 19:37 acerspyro cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS='-O0' 19:37 acerspyro sudo make install -j5 19:37 acerspyro is this right? 19:37 mitrom -j200 19:38 acerspyro nei 19:38 mitrom Oh sorry 19:38 mitrom 247 19:39 acerspyro Where'd sfan5 go? 19:40 mitrom Rip 19:40 acerspyro I figured. 19:40 acerspyro Cat got squashed by a car. 19:41 acerspyro Here's a lame joke 19:42 acerspyro Q: What do you call someone who talks all the time when they get run over by a car? 19:42 acerspyro A: Buffer overrun 19:48 Jordach i should stop being masochistic in my programming http://paste.debian.net/138083 19:50 grendal_prime hey kids got asus tablets, will this run on them? 19:50 Krock Jordach, use group kitten=1 19:50 acerspyro grendal_prime, I think 19:50 Jordach Krock, too lazy to extend simple mobs 19:50 Krock grendal_prime, depends on the OS 19:50 Jordach grendal_prime, yes 19:50 acerspyro ^ 19:50 acerspyro what os 19:50 grendal_prime they are running somthing called multicraft it works good but will not connect to the mintest server 19:50 Jordach (Android has builds availible, but if it's Windows RT, there's no such luck) 19:51 grendal_prime jellybean android i believe 19:51 acerspyro Should work 19:51 grendal_prime how do the controls work? 19:51 Krock Yeah. Try to install an android minetest build 19:51 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=9389 19:51 Jordach grendal_prime, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/download/0.4.10/Minetest-0.4.10-android-armeabi.apk.zip 19:51 Krock always those ninjas.. 19:51 acerspyro In theory, it should be self-explaining, but I haven't tried it myself. 19:52 Jordach the easiest way to get minetest going is on Droid] 19:52 Jordach you install it and you're done 19:53 * Krock can't stop watching star trek episodes today... 20:01 grendal_prime Jordach, thats what im trying to do 20:01 grendal_prime i got the apk file. 20:01 grendal_prime i put it on the droid and execute it somehow? 20:02 luizrpgluiz hi 20:02 grendal_prime sorry guys other than the very consumerlevel methods on android im kinda clueless 20:02 grendal_prime i use it every day but i dont dink outside the interface. 20:09 Jordach i must be wasted 20:09 * Jordach notices HTML5 + Firefox going through his Virtual Audio Filter, but not normal media players 20:10 Sokomine Jordach: if you said anything before it probably got lost :-( my ssd went on vacation again.... 20:10 Jordach Sokomine, aye 20:11 Jordach Sokomine, i finally got kittens spawning and made a microAPI on top of simple mobs to make them easier to make 20:11 Sokomine it switches into read-only mode. logfiles and other files can no longer be written :-( 20:11 Jordach Sokomine, power saving is the highest cause 20:11 Sokomine kittens spawning sounds *very* good! where are they? 20:12 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/138083 20:12 Sokomine not in a desktop. a ssd should not go into read-only mode for no apparent reason 20:12 Jordach Sokomine, check power saving features just in case 20:13 Sokomine Jordach: can the kittens be seen on your server already? 20:13 Jordach yes 20:13 Jordach provided that buildings have those specific nodes 20:13 Sokomine they are kitten-spawners? 20:13 Sokomine do they keep looking for a potential cat-feeder when spawning? :) 20:14 Jordach Sokomine, those nodes you can find kittens on 20:14 Jordach they want somewhere warm and soft to nap on 20:15 * Jordach realises his storage basement will end up with kittens inside 20:16 Jordach Sokomine, they'll even sleep on furnaces if they're active 20:16 Sokomine *g* 20:17 Jordach except they're smart enough not to go in :) 20:18 grendal_prime ok installed works great on the android. Still does not want to connect to my server though. hmmm 20:18 grendal_prime looks like multicraft is basically a renamed version of mintest for android. 20:19 grendal_prime uses same config files from what i can tell. 20:22 Johnsen2 Hello sokomine 20:22 Johnsen2 (｡◕‿‿◕｡) MERRY CHRISTMAS HO HO HO 20:22 Johnsen2 Hi Jordach... (｡◕‿‿◕｡) MERRY CHRISTMAS HO HO HO 20:22 Johnsen2 And to everyone else 20:25 Johnsen2 bye gtg 20:25 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/commit/221e42cbd91971205373bfa5e3c89bff1849b3c2 20:26 Johnsen2 ill be back today 20:47 sfan5 acerspyro: maybe its a different cmake flag 20:48 acerspyro ah 20:48 acerspyro There you are 20:51 acerspyro I gotta go for the day, tho 20:51 acerspyro cya 21:20 Jordach dammit, this wasn't meant to happen! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=165857#p165857 21:29 kaeza greetings 21:31 Jordach grendal_prime, and they are illegal too 21:31 Krock Jordach, wut happen 21:31 Krock kaeza, merry xmas there! 21:31 Jordach Krock, BFD 0.5 RC2 21:32 Krock Jordach, Y not edit RC1? Doing that silent. 21:36 kaeza Merry Christmas Krock 21:36 kaeza Merry Christmas all 21:36 Krock ^^ 21:37 ElectronLibre Merry christmas kaeza. 21:48 Jordach https://mediacru.sh/f6a2a1dfc02b vs https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9036 (In that spoiler section) 21:53 Krock Jordach, why not glasslike drawtype? 21:54 Jordach Krock, where?! 21:54 * Krock points at the windos 21:54 Krock +w 21:54 Jordach which set of screenshots 21:55 Krock here: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/u/ue0bOfyaCC14.png 21:55 Krock wait. it's visible in all screenshots 21:55 Krock except of the latest 22:08 Jordach Krock, that is glasslike 22:13 grendal_prime Jordach, what are illegal? 22:13 Jordach Multicraft, Worldbuilder etc 22:13 grendal_prime damn it..something else is illegal? when will this ind. 22:13 Jordach while the client i linked you is built by the developers without ads :) 22:14 grendal_prime there is illegal stuff on the internet? 22:14 Jordach yes, sometimes even in Google Play 22:14 grendal_prime ya i get what you mean. Ya it seems the one you sent works fine its basically what we have installed on the ubuntu workstations here 22:15 Jordach grendal_prime, eventually i may make it so you can turn touchscreen mode on if you have a surface tablet by a settings tab setting 22:15 grendal_prime right so same build for all platforms....workstation and touch device.. makes sence 22:17 grendal_prime I wish i could get these memopads to mount an smb share..like acutally mount it so the kids could watch movies off of the movie share here. 22:18 grendal_prime anyway thanks for the link the boy is pointing and killing zombies. He was having some sort of issue with the module browser tool, but he aparently found some other way to get the stuff he wanted. 22:19 Jordach grendal_prime, /sdcard/minetest/mods/ 22:20 Jordach drop mods in there if need be, and you can always enable them via the configure world menu 22:20 grendal_prime k thanks. 22:21 grendal_prime you work allot with android os, is there an app that will actually mount a remote ciffs share onto the file system so the files can be accessed directly without download? 22:22 grendal_prime this little limitation is so frustrating im thinking about installing ubuntu touch on one of these devices just to see how well it works. 23:14 Jordach Sokomine! 23:25 carbust still no delivery 23:40 Johnsen2 Jordach, Lol he doesn't listen..... 23:48 T4im is there any way to "block" tablet/phone users? there seems to be some innofficial client out there thats digging randomly when people do stuff in formspecs or something other non-digging related.. :/ 23:48 Johnsen2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtuVP8Mj4o