Time Nick Message 00:09 STHGOM how do you put water in a drinking glass? 00:11 marktraceur STHGOM: Well, you pour it. 00:11 marktraceur Oh, in the game. 00:12 shadowzone heh 00:51 Jordach eyo john_minetest 02:06 zat http://manboobz.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/is1kbbz.png?w=600&h=337 04:58 kaeza asdf 07:27 stormchaser3000 oh !@#$ 07:28 stormchaser3000 wth 07:28 stormchaser3000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7VzufzHOdk 07:28 stormchaser3000 that is unity 8 07:28 stormchaser3000 *pukes* 07:29 ThatGraemeGuy xfce ftw! 07:33 stormchaser3000 i don't use xfce 07:33 stormchaser3000 i use kde 07:34 stormchaser3000 kde 5 atm 07:34 stormchaser3000 but i like kde 4's compatability 07:42 ThatGraemeGuy I've been wanting to try awesome and/or i3 but thus far I've been too lazy :D 08:33 redstonecraftpl Hi 08:38 stormchaser3000 hi 08:45 gregorycu hI 08:58 Krock meow 10:09 the_kreator hi 10:09 redstonecraftpl hi 10:10 redstonecraftpl Any good servers with no griefers and familiar athmosphere? (I THINK I WROTE IT good! Btw, IT WAS SHIFT!) 10:15 the_kreator hi 10:15 the_kreator hi 10:15 the_kreator anybody here can make a server that full of mods? 10:36 Krock redstonecraftpl, diffrent servers - diffrent atmosphere. I couldn't say you any which has a familiar one 10:37 sfan5 Krock: different* 10:54 Krock sfan5, uh thx. wrote it wrong allthe time 11:20 the_kreator who can tell me ho to make a server 11:21 sfan5 the forum 11:21 the_kreator i dont understand the guide at the forum 11:23 the_kreator hello can some body answer m question 11:38 redstonecraftpl I have a trouble 11:38 redstonecraftpl when i try to launch minetest i got THIS: 11:38 redstonecraftpl (wait a while) 11:40 Krock use pastebin for long mesages please 11:41 redstonecraftpl http://wklej.org/id/1564867/ 11:42 redstonecraftpl i am not sure for the line 5, (it is my polish to english translation) 11:42 Krock Digging a node eats 10 fps.. I just discovered 11:42 Krock too less memory? 11:42 jin_xi it has to make textures if you have not dug this type of node before 11:42 redstonecraftpl i dont know, i launched minetest before and played 11:42 sfan5 Krock: s/less/few/ 11:42 redstonecraftpl And i restarted my comp.. 11:43 sfan5 redstonecraftpl: where did you get minetest? 11:43 * Krock gives sfan5 a kitten 11:43 jin_xi or its the meshupdates caused by placing crack 11:43 redstonecraftpl sfan5: Someone gave me a link(not zelda) to forum. There were a script, that i pasted to console and BOOOM! 11:43 jbb I had played minetest at school! 11:43 redstonecraftpl really? 11:43 jbb In multiplayer with my friends 11:43 redstonecraftpl 1fps? :D 11:44 Krock jbb, some teachers prefer when you sleep instead 11:44 jbb yes the teacher has just looked at his own PC 11:45 Krock Interesting.. digging 1 node ^= 10 fps ^= 10% CPU usage 11:45 jin_xi also particles if you have them enabled 11:45 jbb but at school there are very slow PCs 11:45 jbb :( 11:46 redstonecraftpl 256MB ram and Intel Pentium 3? Norm in poland 11:46 jbb like this 11:46 Krock Commodore64 pls 11:46 jbb but now there comes new ones 11:47 redstonecraftpl Amiga 600 :D 11:47 jbb but in Berlin the school PCs are very slow 11:47 sfan5 jbb: depends on the school 11:47 redstonecraftpl Atari 65XE 11:48 redstonecraftpl or better, atari 400 11:49 jbb sorry, but my english isnt so well -( 11:49 jbb :( 11:49 redstonecraftpl main too 11:49 redstonecraftpl mine* 11:49 redstonecraftpl So, any ideas for my minetest? Pls 11:50 sfan5 redstonecraftpl: which linux distro? 11:50 Krock Debain ^ 11:50 jbb do youu speak german? 11:50 Krock jbb, #minetest-de 11:50 * sfan5 speaks german 11:50 redstonecraftpl debian, as you may see in http://wklej.org/id/1564867/ 11:50 jbb yes debian is the best! 11:50 Krock redstonecraftpl, try to update the irrlicht version to 1.8.1 11:50 jbb or semplice 11:51 redstonecraftpl by apt-get upgrade irrlicht ? 11:51 Krock no idea. you're the linux user here 11:51 redstonecraftpl OK 11:52 Krock (and many other people are linux users too) 11:52 * Krock feels tiny 11:52 redstonecraftpl (and just an normal 12 year old kid, i am not kidding) 11:53 redstonecraftpl first let's try reinstall it, bcause i dont see newer version 11:53 LazyJ Check Irrlicht's website, sourceforge, github page,... whatever it is they have. 11:53 jbb www.windoof.org 11:54 * Krock loves the simplyness of just copy&paste dlls 11:54 redstonecraftpl newer irrlich only for jessie(debian 8) 11:54 redstonecraftpl let's try reinstall minetest.. 11:54 redstonecraftpl fully 11:54 Krock jbb, I doubt, that's in english 11:54 sfan5 Krock: are you saying downloading DLLs from some random website and putting them somewhere is easier than sudo apt-get install libirrlicht 11:55 LazyJ If they provide a ".deb" (debian package), then you can install it using the dpkg command. 11:55 redstonecraftpl sfan5: HEY HEY!!! NOT DLL"S! .SO! and that is shift 11:55 Krock sfan5, random official irrlicht site. yeah. sure <.< 11:55 sfan5 redstonecraftpl: .so files are DLLs too 11:56 sfan5 because DLL means Dynamic Link Library 11:56 redstonecraftpl okok 11:56 * Krock wonders about the sense of .so 12:01 jin_xi shared object? 12:01 redstonecraftpl i think bingo 12:03 redstonecraftpl 30% 12:08 redstonecraftpl 95% 12:08 redstonecraftpl After reinstall it works 100% 12:18 redstonecraftpl Krock, do you have a server? 12:18 Krock two. 12:19 redstonecraftpl i see one on official list 12:20 Krock http://servers.minetest.net/ you'll find the two servers, using their IP 12:21 redstonecraftpl Whow, this teleporter is cool. How you made it? Easy? 12:22 Krock teleporter? 12:23 redstonecraftpl yep 12:23 redstonecraftpl this on start 12:24 Krock The elevator? 12:24 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4877 12:24 redstonecraftpl yes.. 12:24 redstonecraftpl but this is amod 12:25 redstonecraftpl why many fog.. And where i can obtain cub? 13:43 * Jordach pokes VanessaE 13:49 * jojoa1997 pokes Jordach 13:50 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/T/TKGGenG_ROeP.png meow~ 13:50 jojoa1997 Jordach got any suggestions for games I should try? sub-games is it? 13:52 * Jordach gives jojoa1997 shifty eyes 13:52 Jordach BFD :3 13:52 jojoa1997 oh there is a subgames section on the forums 13:53 jojoa1997 How have you been doing Jordach ? 13:53 Jordach alright 13:56 redstonecraftpl I am back 13:56 redstonecraftpl AnD CRAP! Again dont works! 14:03 jojoa1997 Jordach I like BFD 14:03 jojoa1997 Im downloading it now to try it 14:04 jojoa1997 ...and the latest minetest build 14:04 exio4 hey, do you should I should buy a thermaltake psu 14:04 exio4 smart m720w +80% bronze 14:12 redstonecraftpl john_minetest: sometimes game start, but sometimes dont. When it dont start, i must delete minetest folder and reinstall it 14:12 redstonecraftpl next time i will copy files 14:12 redstonecraftpl nothing more :)) 14:13 redstonecraftpl Oh, one more problem, i cant find server where are no griefers and no 1 player plays.. 14:15 jojoa1997 Try VanessaE's servers 14:15 jojoa1997 also what operating system do you use? 14:15 jojoa1997 redstonecraftpl ^ 14:15 redstonecraftpl Debian 7.7 14:15 redstonecraftpl amd64 14:16 redstonecraftpl with xorg(No! Plain text XDD), and MATE(gnome 2 clone) 14:17 jojoa1997 Are you using the debian version or building it yourself 14:18 jojoa1997 I use ubuntu half the time so I am a used to building it and running 14:18 redstonecraftpl i am using actual (downloading isos) 14:19 jojoa1997 wait are you running a live cd? 14:21 redstonecraftpl no 14:21 redstonecraftpl No, i'am not 14:22 jojoa1997 ok. also btw I am pretty sure there is no other way to install debian except through cd images(iso) 14:23 redstonecraftpl or dvd :D 14:23 ElectronLibre (Or by a live USB, same thing, but not same tool) 14:23 jojoa1997 same thing 14:25 shadowzone redstonecraftpl: try selah.us.to/30001 or mtzeno.com/30000 14:25 shadowzone those two are pretty good 14:25 ElectronLibre As far as I know, there is no way to install Debian except an image, or downloading the kernel, sources, and to compile by our own. But it would be more a Linux From Scratch at the beggining. 14:32 redstonecraftpl i am on vanessea, will try your later, shadowzone 14:33 shadowzone okay 14:37 Megaf redstonecraftpl: then try mt.megaf.info 30003 14:37 Megaf !server Megaf 14:37 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/10, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 2ms 15:19 shadowzone https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/382 15:20 ElectronLibre Ouch, why? 15:20 shadowzone Cause it makes it seem more real to life 15:20 shadowzone dirt in real life falls right? 15:22 ElectronLibre Right, I'm just thinking about the impact on the current mapgen. 15:22 shadowzone I've tried it, it works just fine. 15:23 ElectronLibre Ok, so why not.. 15:24 shadowzone why not what? 15:24 ElectronLibre But I think it's too late for this modification to be merged for 0.4.11 (release in 2 days if I remember correctly). 15:24 ElectronLibre Why not accept the modification. 15:24 shadowzone okay 15:25 ElectronLibre (I just imagine how many of my buildings, like floating farms, are gonna be destroyed by this modification *-*) 15:25 shadowzone Who has floating farms? 15:26 marktraceur Wait what 15:26 marktraceur Dirt's going to fall? 15:26 ElectronLibre If shadowzone's modification is merged. 15:26 marktraceur Crazy 15:26 marktraceur That's too much of a change in the assumptions of the game, methinks 15:26 shadowzone Yes, I am crazy. 15:27 marktraceur shadowzone: Any way to make it affect only dirt placed after the patch? 15:27 shadowzone I can undo to farming_dirt 15:27 shadowzone so it's only dirt and dirt_with_grass 15:28 marktraceur Eugh, but I have some dirt floating that isn't farming dirt 15:28 marktraceur It's for trees. 15:28 shadowzone so is it just a dumb pull request? 15:33 Megaf [15:20:40] dirt in real life falls right? 15:33 Megaf Everything falls in real life... 15:33 shadowzone True 15:34 ElectronLibre Chests, trees, apples, cobblestone, etc.. 15:34 ElectronLibre Even players. 15:34 shadowzone So was that a dumb pull request? 15:35 Megaf ElectronLibre: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/382#issuecomment-67850182 15:36 shadowzone if you want me to close it I Can 15:39 Megaf Im confused 15:39 Megaf wasnt that an ElectronLibre push? 15:39 shadowzone Nope 15:39 shadowzone mine 15:40 Jordach shadowzone, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/T/TKGGenG_ROeP.png 15:40 shadowzone awwwwe, how cute. 15:42 Megaf shadowzone: you really want dirt to fall? 15:42 shadowzone I think it would be cool 15:43 Megaf shadowzone: and what happens too all tunnels and houses and stuff people built? And caves 15:44 ElectronLibre Megaf: "I didn't do it". 15:44 Megaf shadowzone: and dirt is not like gravel in real life, it can stay firmly in place 15:44 shadowzone Not very well 15:44 Megaf shadowzone: What could be could is, a new nod, mud! Real mud, and that mud could fall 15:44 Megaf and mud could be very similar to dirt 15:44 shadowzone I suppose that is possible 15:44 ElectronLibre It would be very easy to create. 15:45 ElectronLibre And to add in the mapgen like clay. 15:45 Megaf or even, wet dirt 15:45 Megaf we have that already 15:45 Megaf wet dirt could fall 15:45 twoelk oh dear, doesn't mapgen-mudflow do enough mapgrieving allready? 15:45 Megaf however, it would destroy lots of farms 15:46 * twoelk tries to remember some mod that added mudslides 15:46 Megaf why two falling_node? groups = {crumbly=3, falling_node=1, sand=1, soil = 1,falling_node=1}, 15:47 shadowzone That was an accident 15:47 twoelk shadowzone: actually you can burrow in dirt a lot more safely than in sand in real life. 15:47 Megaf twoelk: yep, rabbits, hares and dogs and other animals do that all the time 15:47 twoelk In minetest it would break a lot of things or at least make them a lot more difficult 15:47 marktraceur twoelk: You've done a lot of burrowing lately, eh? 15:48 Krock Megaf, for faster falling down 15:48 twoelk I used to when I was smaller ;-) 15:48 Megaf lmao Krock 15:48 Krock :P 15:49 twoelk for my current size the rabbit hole would rather have to fit a bear or two 15:50 Krock fill the rabbit holes with antiholes 15:50 * twoelk considers wether he is an anti-hole 15:51 Krock ^ 15:51 twoelk cheesy eh? 15:51 redstonecraftpl Vanesea(or something) server is cool 15:52 twoelk ever seen The Yellow Submarine and that nice portable hole that fits into a pocket? 15:52 twoelk redstonecraftpl: which one, there are many 15:52 Megaf redstonecraftpl: would you consider trying my server? 15:53 Krock We've luck. The chicken produce eggs hich EXACTLY fit in our eggcups! 15:53 Krock *which 15:53 Megaf good guy chicken 15:53 Megaf or girl 15:53 Megaf or bird 15:54 Megaf is chicken a bird? 15:54 exio4 duh, noone said anything :( 15:54 Krock john_minetest, yeah. true. but I talked about checken eggs 15:54 Krock *chicken 15:54 exio4 do you think I should buy a thermaltake M750W PSU, or go for something else 15:55 Megaf exio4: the best PSU I have ever had was a Cooler Master 15:57 twoelk Megaf: ever tried this mod? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5691 15:59 Megaf heh, thats a modification of lava 15:59 Megaf it turns dirt into lava_source 15:59 Megaf mud_source, very interesting 16:01 twoelk some lag the last time I tried it several mt versions ago 16:02 redstonecraftpl Megaf: Could you give me IP? 16:02 redstonecraftpl Megaf: If you want me to try ;p 16:04 Megaf redstonecraftpl: sure 16:05 Megaf !server Megaf 16:05 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 2/10, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 2ms 16:05 Megaf This one ^ 16:05 exio4 uh 16:05 exio4 will look for prices of CM 16:06 someguy_irc um. 16:06 someguy_irc help? 16:06 Megaf lol, vegetation is taking over my server 16:06 marktraceur Megaf: Bulldoze it all, build parking lots #problemsolved 16:06 Megaf I dont know if it something from moretrees/plant_lib or something from the current minetest_game 16:06 exio4 coolermaster is expensive 16:06 Megaf there are green stuff coming from dirt ceilings 16:07 marktraceur Wat 16:07 Megaf and lots of green stuff coming from leaves 16:07 marktraceur Megaf: "green stuff" 16:07 marktraceur I don't know what that means. 16:08 exio4 tentacles 16:08 exio4 obviously. 16:08 Megaf exio4: yeah, like that! 16:09 someguy_irc Megaf,i cant access pastebin on any of my browsers from like for a few weeks, and I just tried to access it with a proxy and it works. 16:09 someguy_irc Megaf, have any clue whats going on o.o 16:10 Megaf yep, they blocked you IP because they think you are a spammer 16:10 someguy_irc Wow. 16:10 someguy_irc OH coME on. 16:10 Megaf wow 16:10 Megaf wow, I say wow, look at that 16:10 Megaf An error occurred during a connection to www.google.com. The server rejected the handshake because the client downgraded to a lower TLS version than the server supports. 16:10 someguy_irc I just have a few scripts ._. 16:11 someguy_irc Yea I spam... [NO.] 16:11 someguy_irc Jesus. 16:11 someguy_irc but/. 16:12 someguy_irc Good I can at least log in using the proxy -.- 16:17 someguy_irc Mefaf. 16:17 someguy_irc I just found out. 16:17 someguy_irc pastebin was banned in India? [with a ?] 16:18 shadowzone LOL 16:18 someguy_irc shadowzone, there is no reason to "laugh out loud" 16:18 someguy_irc LOL ^. 16:18 shadowzone I know 16:19 shadowzone Just made me laugh 16:19 someguy_irc Haha, yeah... 16:19 Krock http://i.imgur.com/1mrUr43.png 16:20 exio4 what TP? 16:21 Krock base_game TP 16:21 Krock it's a mix 16:25 Krock !tell paramat http://i.imgur.com/3Zak3yx.png 16:25 MinetestBot Krock: yeah, sure, whatever 16:28 Krock How to troll newbies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG4l7iRJnMg 16:42 redstonecraftpl Megaf 16:42 redstonecraftpl can you give me perms? 16:56 shadowzone Jordach: check out my first render. http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-JxxF0ld8.1419267353.png 17:05 twoelk shadowzone: playing with Blender? 17:07 shadowzone Yep 17:08 twoelk cool 17:09 Calinou for images, try lut.im or mediacru.sh 17:09 shadowzone How does it look so far? 17:09 Calinou …it's just a bunch of cubes 17:10 Calinou also your render doesn't have anti-aliasing 17:10 shadowzone Calinou: I am 12, just starting blender, don't expect it to be perfect 17:11 exio4 still better than anything I could ever do with blender 17:11 exio4 I tried using blender once, I failed to do anything 17:11 shadowzone Lol 17:12 shadowzone I've been learning 17:12 shadowzone very slowly 17:12 sfan5 exio4: r u doge 17:12 shadowzone but I've been learning 17:12 exio4 no sfan5 17:12 sfan5 exio4: r u shibe 17:12 exio4 no 17:13 shadowzone exio4: r u nazi? 17:13 exio4 lag :/ 17:13 exio4 no shadowzone, I am your fuhrer 17:13 shadowzone dammit 17:13 shadowzone exio4, do u play minetest? 17:14 exio4 no, I do not play minetest 17:14 * ElectronLibre remembers he is gonna start a lesson about World War II in January. 17:14 shadowzone PLAY TEH MINETEST! 17:14 exio4 shadowzone, would if I could! 17:14 twoelk actually the venetian doge and the german fuehrer translate to the same meaning - simply leader or guy in front 17:14 shadowzone why can't you? 17:14 exio4 shadowzone, using opensource drivers with a crap gpu 17:15 exio4 and nvidia 17:15 shadowzone oh.. 17:15 exio4 would use closed blobs if they were easy to maintain 17:15 shadowzone Mine was a pretty high end gaming PC 7 years ago 17:15 exio4 I have spent all the money in actually useful parts 17:16 shadowzone :/ 17:16 exio4 the gpu is just because I didn't have an integrated one and needed a place to plug my screen 17:16 twoelk my current one was a pretty low end pc 5 years ago :-\ 17:16 Calinou shadowzone, anti-aliasing is enabled (8×) by default in renders 17:16 Calinou the render when you press F12 17:16 Calinou not the OpenGL render, which isn't what you want usually 17:16 shadowzone hmm 17:17 exio4 twoelk, mine is only mid-end 17:17 twoelk also maybe adjust the light source a little 17:17 exio4 :P but low-end gpu 17:18 shadowzone Okay 17:20 twoelk I have severall machines that were state of art when I built them, then I focused on other stuff and when my dad bought a cheap stuff pc I noticed it was better by then than anything I had built 17:20 twoelk I don't build machines any more 'cause they are outdated when I finish them, I'm to slow :-( 17:21 Calinou hardware doesn't progress as fast as before 17:21 twoelk you have no idea how slow I am :-D 17:23 Calinou my self-built PC is 1.5 years old or so, but has hardware as old as 3 years 17:25 twoelk most of my pc-cases are 7 years and older. Modern stuff might not fit inside anymore - but they are so beautifully laid out, just can'tz throw them away 17:27 twoelk my oldest functional machine is from 1993. Haven't started it for a year now because the monitor for it died. 17:28 exio4 I didn't even exist in 1993 17:28 twoelk oops 17:28 exio4 my oldest computer is from 2003 :P 17:30 exio4 over here, 2003, 2010, 2013 17:30 twoelk hm, can't think of any electronic device we have that is older than me 17:30 exio4 I've a 486 next to me, that, well, at least a few years ago, worked 17:31 marktraceur I have an alarm clock that's from...maybe 2002. But that's the best I can do. 17:31 exio4 uhh 17:32 exio4 nothing older? 17:33 marktraceur I don't think so, no. 17:33 marktraceur And I don't use the clock anymore 17:33 * VanessaE looks over at her Commodore 128.. does this count? :) 17:33 marktraceur There might be something older in my storage locker in SF 17:35 twoelk we do plan to get rid of our 35 years old fridge although it is still working very well 17:35 Wayward_One I have an original GameBoy... 17:35 exio4 VanessaE, fatality 17:35 twoelk it is just too expensive in energy consumption 17:37 twoelk ah, clocks, we do have some that are pretty old but those are mechanical and don't count 17:38 marktraceur Wayward_One: Oh, damn, I have a GBA, but I didn't have it until a few years ago. 17:39 twoelk thinking of that I think we have an apple peeler device that runs in the family for some 100 years now 17:39 Megaf redstonecraftpl: you there? 17:39 Megaf I called you on my server but you was standing on the very same place for very long 17:41 * Megaf thinks that redstonecraftpl have an imensily huge lag 17:43 Wayward_One marktraceur: nice! 17:45 redstonecraftpl Megaf: I afk'ed 17:45 redstonecraftpl sry ;) 17:45 Megaf redstonecraftpl: interact given by the way 17:46 redstonecraftpl thx 17:47 Calinou flying pony: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/n/ntiMIwpTpc_y.png 17:49 Calinou there's an animation that removes two of the legs 17:50 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/A/AkFPLZfduTAW.png 17:52 * twoelk wonders wether he should make a flying toasters mod and wether any of the current players would remember where they came from 17:54 Calinou it has flight 17:54 Calinou if you pick the appropriate pony (pegasus or alicorn), then press Shift + Use 17:54 Calinou you cycle between movement modes 17:54 Calinou Space / Shift to move up / down 18:07 twoelk http://www.masswerk.at/flyer/flyer.html rise of the undead flying toaster 18:14 Megaf Where is vines from? Minetest Game or other mod? 18:14 VanessaE plantlife modpack contains it. 18:15 Megaf oh, I accidentaly enabled it 18:15 Megaf my map is a mess now 18:15 Megaf I like it tho 18:15 Megaf but they are jaming my tree automated farms 18:15 VanessaE sorry to hear./ 18:16 * Calinou sets up MG42 18:17 VanessaE Megaf: there's three or four vines nodes. uninstall the mod, alias those nodes to air, done. 18:17 Megaf they grom from leaves and block deployers and prevent trunk from growing when sapling grows 18:18 Megaf but the woods looks much nicier with vines 18:19 VanessaE I'm sure you can figure out a workaround then 18:20 VanessaE though I could swear I modified that mod to only grow vines on jungle trees 18:36 twoelk dissabling vines shouldn't be the only option. Maybe some growth rate settings in some config might be more fun 18:37 Calinou vines are not buildable_to usually, sadly 18:37 VanessaE both of these issues can be fixed. 18:38 VanessaE one other thing that would help is if the engine had a "hanging node" group similar to attached_node 18:38 twoelk I liked when you could use vines like ropes for constructing high stuff in nofly environments 18:38 VanessaE so that I could auto-cleanup when someone digs away the tree they grew on, etc. 18:38 twoelk yeah bas080 old request 18:39 twoelk btw where did Sokomine's invasionofthevines.mts go? 18:39 * VanessaE shrugs 18:40 * twoelk searches for his copy 18:46 twoelk oh an updated graph on the http://wiki.minetest.net/Mods page about the most used mods on servers 18:48 twoelk with more than 70 servers and the more popular mods used around on 20 on those it shows that the servers are indeed pretty diverse 18:49 * twoelk wonders wether that sentence makes the sense it was planned for :-D 18:56 Xack hi Calinou :) 19:02 Calinou hi Xack 19:20 Jordach hello Sokomine 19:26 Krock twoelk, Top 10 mods, excluding MTG default mods? ^^ 19:27 Calinou top 10 nodes! 19:27 Krock yesss 19:27 Krock that'd be either stone or water 19:27 Krock no wait. It's air 19:27 twoelk I thinks and also not listing individual mods of mesecons or technic 19:28 Calinou air, stone, water, desert sand, sand, grass, desert stone… 19:28 Calinou probably 19:28 Jordach coal ore? 19:28 marktraceur Trees 19:29 Krock I think those materials depend on the server - I doubt moontest has much regular stone 19:29 marktraceur Oh, no, ignore me 19:29 Krock Yeah. A tree node. Node. 19:29 twoelk Krock: also click on the graph to study the different versions over time 19:29 Krock twoelk, yes I saw. bushes_classic disappeared 19:29 marktraceur I'd imagine anything underground would be more common than trees 19:30 sfan5 twoelk: correct, I only list the highest ranked mod of mesecons or worldedit 19:30 twoelk marktraceur: depends on what has been generated 19:31 marktraceur twoelk: True, but on average, I'm sure people have generated more undeground than aboveground 19:31 marktraceur Well...maybe. 19:31 twoelk sfan5: so the overall count of mesecons might be higher? 19:32 EvergreenTree Wow, I dodn't know half the people here. Maybe I should come on irc more often. :P 19:32 EvergreenTree *don't 19:32 EvergreenTree First message in a while and I'm already making typos 19:34 blaise hrmm 19:35 blaise when was minetest-0.4.10 released ? 19:35 Krock EvergreenTree, same thing here. And I'm online every day 19:35 Krock blaise, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases 19:36 Krock > 7 Jul 19:36 EvergreenTree It was that long ago? wow 19:36 Jordach two days to the release 19:36 Jordach man the battlestations 19:36 blaise Krock: danke 19:36 Krock np 19:36 H-H-H 4.11? 19:36 Krock H-H-H, * 0.4.11 19:37 H-H-H thats what i meant :P 19:37 Krock It willrelease in a few days 19:37 Krock be patient 19:37 H-H-H is there a changelog i can peer at ? :D 19:38 * twoelk wonders what all them plasmascreens on the servers are used for 19:38 * Krock doesn't know if he wants to test 0.2.20110731 19:38 * Krock thinks the same as twoelk 19:38 Jordach [Mine]Test all the things! 19:38 Krock H-H-H, http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 19:39 VanessaE twoelk, Calinou, Megaf see plantlife git. your issues should be resolved now. 19:39 VanessaE (re: vines) 19:39 H-H-H ty Krock 19:39 Krock np 19:39 twoelk rewind? 19:40 Krock http://i.imgur.com/g8q5GHV.jpg 19:43 * twoelk has sampled at times wierd shit and gave it to the doctors to study (turned out to be fossilized dino shit, some really old mega shit) 19:43 Krock xD 19:43 Jordach yo dawg i heard you like weird shit 19:44 H-H-H so basially it was Total Sh1t ? :P 19:46 twoelk so be carefull what shit you produce, some scientists might still be studying it after millions of years 19:47 * Megaf hates nvidia 19:47 Megaf I hate nvidia 19:47 Megaf Have I said that I hate nvidia? 19:48 Megaf because of this > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162289&p=1 https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/542320/?comment=4055337 https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/525772/efi-support-/ http://martys.typepad.com/blog/2012/10/kubuntu-macbook-efi-and-nvidia.html 19:48 Megaf In short, nvidia driver crash if you use EFI 19:49 blaise heh 19:50 * Jordach sits there with Legacy mode enabled 19:50 Jordach check and mate 19:50 Calinou “Everyone's using UEFI — and I'm just sitting there using Legacy” —meme 19:50 Megaf VanessaE: well, it still growing on several trees that are no jungle trees 19:50 Megaf not* 19:51 Jordach Calinou, UEFI is good, but the goddamn implementation and MS screwing with it killed it 19:51 Megaf Jordach: on my Toshiba Im using UEFI, and damn, thats quick to boot 19:52 Megaf a couple of seconds from grub to login screen 19:52 Jordach Megaf, would lovingly change, but W7 here dislikes it 19:52 Megaf sorry, I use Debian 8 :) 19:52 Megaf with XFCE 19:52 Megaf that's fast 19:52 Jordach i'd use it if it Optimus actually worked 19:53 Megaf Jordach: hm I think it works now a days, doenst it? 19:53 Megaf I hate this idea of having two GPUs 19:53 Jordach Megaf, dual monitors will be used over here 19:53 Jordach maybe triple if i have the room for it 19:53 Calinou having two GPUs, one integrated and one dedicated, is done for obvious reasons of battery life 19:53 Calinou idle dedicated cards can't compete with idle IGPs in terms of power usage 19:54 Megaf Calinou: Macbook Pro 13" 7,1 mid 2010 with nvidia 320M + Snow Leopard = 13 hours of bettery life with wifi 19:54 Calinou doing nothing? 19:54 Megaf why the fuck do we need a slow intel gpu? 19:54 Calinou because it would then last longer? 19:54 Megaf Calinou: doing nothing is more than 13 hours 19:54 Calinou I don't think a 2010 laptop can last 13 hours 19:55 Calinou measure battery life in practice 19:55 Megaf Calinou: (when new) 19:55 exio4 it can, if you have it suspended 19:55 exio4 also, my UPS + FX (idle) has about hour and half of battery 19:55 Megaf now a days my Mac lasts only about 6 hours of coninuos work with OS X Yosemite 19:55 exio4 if I use it, about an hour 19:55 VanessaE Megaf: according to the code, that should only happen if there's a jungle tree trunk nearby 19:55 exio4 if I _actually_ use it, 30 minutes 19:55 VanessaE (within 10 meters) 19:56 Megaf 2:30 hours if I use Debian with nouveau driver... 19:56 Megaf VanessaE: you are invited to join my server and see with your own eyes whats happening there 19:56 Megaf !server Megaf 19:56 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 1/8 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 2ms 19:57 * VanessaE sighs 19:57 exio4 VanessaE, you have an UPS, right? 19:57 VanessaE exio4: two of them. CP1500PFCLCD and also the 1350 model. 19:58 VanessaE (Cyberpower) 19:58 exio4 what is the .. hmm, autonomy? 19:58 exio4 in idle 20:00 VanessaE eh? 20:01 Krock Megaf, dat ping. 20:02 VanessaE Megaf: hrm. ok there must be some glitch in the code, but you'll notice the vines on leaves are staying close to water like they're supposed to 20:02 Megaf VanessaE: not really, rejoin please 20:03 exio4 I have a uhh, Hunnox!, UPS, 1200VA/720W, and well, I extrapolated the numbers I pasted before 20:05 VanessaE OH you mean that 20:06 VanessaE eh, I dunno, maybe 10 mins or so at normal load 20:06 VanessaE but I'm running three computers off of them 20:06 Jordach sfan5, kitten~ https://cdn.mediacru.sh/U/U1mRUkTo1IjH.png 20:06 VanessaE total about 950 watts actual 20:10 Megaf Jordach: Now, that's really cute 20:10 Megaf I want that walking around on my server, as Ocelots do in Minecraft 20:16 sfan5 Jordach: :3 20:25 Krock Jordach, SWEET 20:26 VanessaE Megaf: fixed in git, and it should cause the excess vines to die off as a side effect also. 20:26 ElectronLibre I've never seen more cute blender-kitten. 20:26 VanessaE (die off slowly that is) 20:26 VanessaE the kitten looks more like a dog, Jordach. see "Money for Nothing" 20:27 VanessaE reminds me of the one shown near the beginning of that video 20:27 VanessaE (it still looks good, just saying) 20:29 kaeza greetings 20:29 VanessaE hey kaeza. 20:30 kaeza happy belated 2000th issue 20:30 VanessaE heh 20:34 Krock #2000 20:34 Krock ShadowBot! 20:45 redstonecraftpl Do anyone know channel about Playstation One? 20:46 * ElectronLibre wonders if that kind of thing even exists on freenode. 20:49 luizrpgluiz because the old monsters and the rats left the minetest in the new versions? 20:51 jin_xi luizrpgluiz: use a mod to add animals in newer version 20:52 luizrpgluiz I wanted to know the reason they had left the new versions, such as rats and onerrik 20:53 jin_xi because change of content system to lua 21:04 addaitech hrm is there any other documentaion for setting up a server on debian? im getting errors going by the wiki 21:05 redstonecraftpl what errors? :D 21:06 Jordach VanessaE, puppies usually have taller heads than kittens 21:06 Jordach i was basing it off of MC's ocelot model and actual kittens, provided by MinetestBot 21:06 shadowzone VanessaE, isis.inchra.net #minetest had a netsplit 21:07 ElectronLibre All the channels had. 21:07 ElectronLibre If there was someone on a spliting server. 21:07 Jordach shadowzone, u wot m8 21:11 addaitech let me pastebin them 21:11 addaitech http://pastebin.com/PiVm0f3e 21:12 addaitech never set one of these up, was just going by the wiki, maybe i missed a step 21:12 Jordach addaitech, remove worldid 21:12 addaitech ok 21:13 Jordach worldname i meant 21:14 addaitech http://pastebin.com/vH7J2GEM 21:14 addaitech i got ya :P 21:14 addaitech ahh i see 21:14 addaitech 5: Bind failed: Address already in use 21:14 Jordach now search top, htop or a task manager for an existing minetestserver 21:14 Jordach kill them all 21:15 addaitech so i'll have to specify an ipv4 21:15 addaitech or does it always work over v6? 21:15 Jordach addaitech, you don't need to 21:15 Jordach it should auto detect 21:15 Jordach kill any process that is named minetestserver 21:15 addaitech i've got a crap load of ips allocated tho 21:17 Jordach addaitech, i run a MT server in a Debian VM 21:17 Jordach which is connected directly to the network 21:18 addaitech i can just designate one ip for the server though right? 21:18 addaitech so it doesnt have to go through like the 250+ 21:18 Jordach yes 21:18 addaitech setting up game servers is my weakness... i used to be good at this stuff lol 21:19 addaitech wondering if running sid could be causing conflicts as well 21:20 Jordach there's a minetestserver that is running on the port 21:20 Jordach check the goddamned htop, top or task manager and kill any other minetestserver 21:21 luizrpgluiz I am wanting a '' teacher '' who can help me generate my block in normal minetest map 21:21 addaitech i did 21:22 addaitech i just started one after killing everything and its still binding to 0.0.0.0 21:23 addaitech blah i didnt edit the config file to the bind thats probably it 21:26 addaitech that would appear to be the problem, testing now 21:27 addaitech there we go, got it up and running 21:27 addaitech Jordach: thanks for the assistance 21:27 Jordach addaitech, at least we don't have a bukkit's worth of community issues 21:28 addaitech :P 21:28 addaitech how can i get added to the public server list, if you happen to know how? 21:29 addaitech lemme check the wiki first 21:29 Jordach i ain't in the mood to turn my VM back on and read my config 21:31 Jordach http://paste.debian.net/137767/ 21:31 addaitech i run debian on everything only thing i virtualbox is genymotion 21:31 Jordach replace anything in <> with a text string 21:32 Jordach including the <> 21:32 addaitech ah ok, thanks for the help :) 21:32 Jordach my address points at jordach.minetest.net 21:33 Jordach ElectronLibre, oh, you're [Mg]. that's something i learned 21:34 ElectronLibre You didn't know it? 21:34 Jordach nopwe 21:34 Jordach just saw the username 21:34 ElectronLibre Mg is my MT-nickname, Magnesium's chemical symbol. But it's a registered username on FreeNode so I've picked my second one. 21:36 ElectronLibre (But I've kept Mg for InchraNet because it was not already registered, and because it's really in connection with Minetest so it would be weird to pick another one). 21:37 ElectronLibre *would have been weird 21:37 Jordach you caught me out for a while on GitHub too 21:39 ElectronLibre While using "LeMagnesium" as my account name (TheMagnesium). 21:41 ElectronLibre (I try to keep a connection with chemistery in my nicknames it's the only way to find out who I am) 21:51 Jordach ElectronLibre, electron isn't chemistry, it's more of atomic science :) 21:51 ElectronLibre Yes, let's say I try to stay in the domain of sciences. 21:56 exio4 what is your codomain ElectronLibre? 21:56 exio4 are you an endomorphism? 22:01 ElectronLibre_ F**** internet connection -_- 22:04 ElectronLibre_ exio4: Are we talking about functions, or nicknames? 22:04 exio4 about morphisms! 22:05 ElectronLibre I've not get that message I think ._. 22:06 exio4 !g endomorphisms 22:06 MinetestBot exio4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endomorphism 22:06 exio4 it is a category theory I barely can use 22:06 exio4 but it is basically a morphism with the domain being the same as the codomain 22:07 exio4 you can think of morphisms are generalization of functions btw 22:08 * ElectronLibre has got such an impression to be flooding the chan with his parts/joins. 22:09 ElectronLibre Next time I'm sure I will be kindly redirected to ##_fir_your_connection -_- 22:09 ElectronLibre *##fix 22:10 exio4 I hate this homebanking page 22:11 exio4 also, it is 100% javascript 22:11 ElectronLibre Anyway, I've got to go.. So.. exio4, if I've got enough connection, I will read the logs, and answer your question next time I join. 22:12 exio4 <3 don't worry 22:22 ProXavi Hello? Operators for isis #minetest we need your help 22:25 ProXavi Hello!? 22:26 shadowzone hi ProXavi 22:26 ProXavi Lol 23:05 Jordach http://youtu.be/HZbq_QMBg6c might speed up the framerate a bit 23:07 twoelk seems like legs coulöd move a little faster 23:07 Jordach was considering that 23:07 twoelk *could 23:07 Jordach they are spaced 24 frames apart :P 23:08 twoelk also one seemed to jump while sitting 23:09 Jordach simple mobs can't handle everything 23:09 Jordach they jump around like kittens 23:09 Jordach that's all that matters 23:10 twoelk so entity movement and shown animation are not related? 23:10 Jordach yes 23:10 Jordach it's the engine not updating the clients fast enough 23:10 Jordach you can see this with mesh chests i made a while back 23:10 twoelk that explains a lot 23:10 Jordach it desyncs rather easily 23:11 twoelk so doing more detailed movements is pretty useless at the moment :-( 23:12 Jordach my mesh chest has around 10 seconds of shutting time due to UDP lag 23:12 Jordach it originally had 3 23:15 twoelk I wonder how second life did it. They did have some convincing animations the last time I was on such a server 23:15 Jordach twoelk, client side magic 23:15 Jordach which we don't have 23:16 twoelk don't know , maybe animation sequences could be stored in the chache? 23:17 twoelk eh, media cache 23:17 Jordach think of animations are played back like an audio file 23:17 Jordach it can only be in one place at a time 23:17 Jordach and at a certain speed 23:18 twoelk I'm not really sure about this 23:20 twoelk I always thought the player mesh is downloaded on connection and it contains all animations 23:20 Jordach it is 23:20 Jordach the animations are played back like a ogg file 23:20 Jordach it has to go left to right, at any speed 23:21 twoelk ok, so if mobs work the same, all that is communicated is the trigger 23:22 Jordach exactly, and said trigger can get lost in transmission 23:22 Jordach meaning that they desync, which is visible in the video 23:23 twoelk poor lost trigger wandering the net 23:24 twoelk ok so the cat got the command to jump but why does that not trigger the right animation on time? 23:24 sfan5 meow 23:24 twoelk sounds legit 23:25 Jordach twoelk, entities may have movement prediction via vectors 23:26 * Jordach considers adding fishing into BFD to make it more suface-worldy instead of undergroundy 23:27 Jordach also, there was once a Minetest Game based BFD prototype which got lost 23:27 twoelk I very much assume animation is somewhat bound to entity movement, so the getting out of sync must come from elsewhere 23:28 Jordach twoelk, betcha by 1.0 it'll be fixed 23:28 * Jordach sighs 23:29 twoelk we might have to go through some 0.4.111 before that 23:29 proller Jordach, why you call kittens "AI" ? 23:30 Jordach proller, because they're programmically bound 23:30 twoelk fishing cats might be fun as any mob to mob interaction 23:30 Jordach thus artificial intelligence 23:30 jin_xi its fuzzy logic :3 23:30 proller Jordach, no, its full random shit 23:30 Jordach (in fact the random jumping seems to make the kittens alive, might either fix said bug or leave it) 23:30 twoelk don' 23:30 proller doom2 have much better "ai" 23:31 twoelk hear* 23:31 twoelk so proller, any idea how doom2 pulls it of? 23:31 Jordach hm, the jumping appears to be related to the collision box 23:33 proller twoelk, doom have very simple ai, but it looks ok 23:33 Jordach proller, limited to a 2d space extrapolated to a 3d space 23:33 Jordach they only have to manage x and y 23:33 proller it was written 20 years ago 23:34 proller on computers 100x slower than current watch 23:34 addaitech ok there we go got the server up now atleast 23:34 Jordach so you're expecting a fully buildable and destructable world with 1^10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000^100000000000000000000 combos to have a speedy AI 23:34 twoelk programs had to be faster in those days because of slow hardware 23:34 proller on current cpus you can make ai acting exactly as human 23:35 Jordach and the video was recorded at a perfect 60FPS 23:35 Jordach http://youtu.be/XqKtijAtox4 twoelk, sped up anims 23:35 proller not in lua of course 23:36 * twoelk has long since thought that mob ai should play in another sandbox than the main game 23:36 twoelk viewing video now 23:36 sfan5 Jordach: <3 kittens 23:37 Jordach sfan5, will be adding a variant of fishing to give the kittens food 23:37 sfan5 :3 23:39 twoelk looks better Jordach 23:39 twoelk now let them out into the open andd catch some mice/rats ;-P 23:40 Jordach twoelk, eventually i can add soul gears, which are extremely rare and have an ultimate usage: turning player statues into living entities 23:41 twoelk pygmalion would be happy 23:41 Jordach oerkkis both drop a Sam II statues and soul gears 23:43 twoelk hm the Pygmalion and Geppetto touch in contrast to Midas and Medusa 23:44 Jordach there is one special case where you can create two different evergreens, one made of stoneflesh while the other is oakflesh 23:44 Jordach twoelk, if someone decides to unfairly kill kittens to find an air sword, then they don't deserve it 23:45 twoelk maybe some bad karma system? 23:45 Jordach twoelk, it's 1/400000 23:56 kaeza so you're expecting a fully buildable and destructable world with 1^10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000^100000000000000000000 combos to have a speedy AI 23:56 kaeza so 1 combination? :P 23:57 kaeza oh, he's dead 23:59 Jordach eh