Time  Nick             Message
00:02 Niveocrystal     Hello?
00:09 zat              Tost
00:13 niveocrystal2    Guys! I come here to tell you I need to go
00:46 MinetestBot      02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Add definable node_stone to biome API, mgv5, mgv7. Reduce and correct depth of mgv7 biomes. l_mapgen.cpp: add '#include mapgen_v5.h' because '#include mapgen_v7' is there. Improve underwater grass hack 130a5373d http://git.io/tILHJw (152014-12-03T19:45:29-05:00)
01:14 hisforever       Hi are there any new modes going up?
01:17 waressearcher2   is it possible to make a mod "First Person Shooter" where you can have guns  and shoot each other ?
01:20 VanessaE         waressearcher2: use kaeza's firearms mod.
02:40 dottel           hello! what is the total world height in Minetest?
02:40 VanessaE         -30927 to +30912
02:40 VanessaE         so about 62 km
02:40 dottel           siiiick
02:40 dottel           thank you!
02:41 VanessaE         also the N/S and E/W dimensions are the same
02:41 dottel           so, you can't just keep going forever?
02:42 VanessaE         in practice, the generated world will extend from around +35 or so at its peaks, on down to -30927, but you can build or mods can generate more land up to +30912
02:42 VanessaE         no, it doesn't just go on "forever" but it feels like it sometimes :)
02:42 dottel           hmmmm
02:43 Zeno`            took me 4-6 months to dig to -30927 properly (i.e. being able to go back up again)
02:43 dottel           so the height potential is awesome, something akin to cubic chunks mod for minecraft.. but you can't just keep walking, which is part of the appeal of these games
02:43 hmmmm            dottel, it would take 2 days of nonstop walking to get to the edge of the map.
02:44 VanessaE         well, in minecraft there is a limit to the map's width also
02:44 dottel           yeah, harddrive space
02:44 VanessaE         but it's pretty huge and when you get there, the map starts glitching out, as I understand
02:44 dottel           haha
02:44 VanessaE         no :P
02:44 dottel           yes
02:44 VanessaE         there's a hard limit, some 4 billion meters total
02:44 VanessaE         32 bit value anyway I guess
02:44 dottel           oooh
02:44 dottel           nie
02:44 dottel           *nice
02:44 Zeno`            hmmmm, so 4 days edge to edge?
02:44 dottel           4 billion meters is a long way yes?
02:44 VanessaE         I'd say so.
02:45 dottel           hehe
02:45 VanessaE         about 5 percent of the distance to the sun or thereabouts
02:45 dottel           and you can't extend the total world area? makes me sad
02:46 VanessaE         it could be extended, in theory, but doing so would break some mods and probably all old clients, and it's unclear if there would be a benefit to do so
02:46 VanessaE         so the focus has been on putting all that extra height to good use
02:46 VanessaE         e.g. more realms
02:46 Zeno`            VanessaE, unless when you get to the edge it creates a whole new db ;)
02:47 VanessaE         Zeno`: now THAT is an idea... /me looks at hmmmm
02:47 hmmmm            do it yourself
02:47 Zeno`            and somehow seemlessly continues mapgen and walking across into it ;)
02:47 VanessaE         why?
02:47 exio41           oh hai
02:47 VanessaE         if someone else does it, it'll never make it into mainline.
02:47 VanessaE         so what's the point?
02:47 Zeno`            i.e. not impossible
02:47 dottel           so you could make a mod that had levels, each level being the maximum area .. and each time you reach the limit it just loads the next level. similar to how old dungeon crawlers work, ei zelda?
02:48 dottel           *ie zelda
02:48 VanessaE         dottel: well right now, such a mod is not possible in the sense you describe, but you could teleport the user to another location, e.g. up by +1000m or some such, and continue generating land
02:49 VanessaE         (as opposed to "loading a level", where I take that to mean a new map)
02:49 dottel           :(
02:49 dottel           yes
02:49 VanessaE         but the effect would be the same
02:49 exio41           that is a neat way to simulate multiple levels
02:50 dottel           there has to be an easy way to just be able to keep walking (easy being a relative term)
02:50 exio41           k, bye
02:50 dottel           bye
02:50 VanessaE         a minetest world has so much vertical space that you could certainly DO that by just generating more land further and further up.  you could even start the user with a thin "crust" of land at 0, and allow them to go DOWN also, provided each layer of "level" has some kind of bedrock or other unbreakable base node that they can't dig through
02:51 dottel           i dont like that, the entire height potential would have to be potentially utilized
02:51 VanessaE         then it's a comparatively trivial amount of game logic to detect when the player should be transported to another level
02:51 dottel           kinda sound picky i know..
02:52 VanessaE         right, yeah.  can't do that yet, as that would need Zeno`'s idea of loading an entirely new map/world -- which by the way HAS been discussed among a few people (like linking books in minecraft?).  whether that will actually happen, I'm not sure.
02:52 hmmmm            out of all the problems minetest has, most players feel as if the horizontal size limits is the most significant
02:52 hmmmm            i don't get it.
02:52 dottel           the potential to explore, i entirel understand this
02:52 dottel           *entirely
02:52 hmmmm            you can explore a lot
02:53 hmmmm            you just see a limit and assume it's not enough
02:53 dottel           but the idea of "infinite" exploration
02:53 hmmmm            have you actually tried to explore to the end of a map?  probably not
02:53 dottel           appeals to a base human instinct, thus the appeal of these games
02:53 hmmmm            if you get bored with one map, just change the seed by one digit and start a new map
02:53 hmmmm            it's the same perlin puke slightly different
02:53 VanessaE         hmmmm: you don't even PLAY....  it's not about the extents of the map, it's about what can CHANGE wen the player needs to be teleported to another realm
02:54 VanessaE         like one realm is made of grass and stone, maybe another is made entirely of gold.
02:54 VanessaE         and not even necessarily the same map generator either
02:54 VanessaE         maybe one realm is flat, another is singlenode...
02:54 VanessaE         (well singlenode + an appropriate Lua mapgen anyway)
02:56 dottel           thank you for chatting, i am due for a game with a buddy
02:56 dottel           be back sometime!
03:16 zat              !seen paramat
03:16 MinetestBot      zat: paramat was last seen at 2014-11-16 20:50:42 UTC on #minetest
03:17 zat              scheiße
03:54 paramat          hi
03:55 paramat          sorry zat i missed you
04:13 paramat          ha dottel pinged hmmmmm by getting really thoughtful
04:20 paramat          i could possibly write a mapgen that teleports players to identical terrain on the opposite edge of the world and one layer up or down. might do it for fun to throw at these small-world complainers
04:21 paramat          my base human instinct for exploration has always been up not outwards, im a space geek
04:25 paramat          remember a possible orion launch in 7h40m, there might even be on-board camera footage throughout the test flight
04:28 paramat          wow a giant cookie will be onboard =D
05:53 yang2003         Hello,can i learn how can i use the colored wood
05:54 OldCoder         yang2003, welcome!
05:54 OldCoder         VanessaE, are you asleep? I assume so
05:54 OldCoder         yang2003, try during U.S. daylight hours
05:54 OldCoder         If nobody answers tonight
05:54 yang2003         ok
05:54 OldCoder         VanessaE has probably gone to sleep
05:54 yang2003         2hours right
05:54 OldCoder         It is about 12:50am her time
05:55 yang2003         ok
05:55 yang2003         i must offlind in 5 more hour
05:55 OldCoder         That is fine
05:55 OldCoder         Offline happens :-)
05:55 dottel           The Minetest subreddit: "Minetest is an infinite-world block sandbox game and a game engine, inspired by Infiniminer, Minecraft and the like" ... according to VanessaE Minetest is in fact not infinite.
06:05 OldCoder         dottel correct, but it is pretty large
06:05 OldCoder         Infinite in this case is relative
06:05 OldCoder         "Big" is more accurate
06:05 OldCoder         Really big
06:07 yang2003         #rules
08:30 Zeno`            ffs Megaf
08:30 Zeno`            It wasn't even an open PR
08:31 Zeno`            Isn't there enough real issues with MT than pedantic shit like that comment?
08:32 Zeno`            I'm in a really crappy mood because there is more important crap that needs fixing ASAP rather than an unfinished and closed PR, so sorry. But geez.
08:34 Zeno`            If possible I would have *deleted* the PR, but I can't ;/
08:43 sol_invictus     I see how Zeno` is becoming a real mt core dev
08:44 Zeno`            yes, I'm sorry
08:45 Zeno`            I'm just very frustrated
08:45 Zeno`            and it has nothing to do with Megaf. Sorry Megaf
08:45 Zeno`            but it wasn't even an open PR :/
08:45 Zeno`            I won't go back and add a narrative to it because it's not important :)
08:47 Zeno`            ^--- that's not really like the usual me is it? :( *embarrassed*
08:47 kaeza            I can understand you. dealing with this kind of crap is tiring, and there comes a point where just a little nudge is enough to light the fuse
08:48 kaeza            "shit hits the fan", they say
08:49 kaeza            also, good morning test :)
08:49 * ThatGraemeGuy  gives Zeno` a beer
08:49 ThatGraemeGuy    because sometimes a cookie just doesn't cut it
08:50 waressearcher2   Zeno`: what is "PR" what are you talking about ?
08:50 Zeno`            pull request (a request for a change to be merged into the minetest codebase)
08:58 MinetestBot      02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Settings: Various setting group fixes and enhancements 13f0cd590 http://git.io/A3jSyA (152014-12-04T03:20:07-05:00)
09:01 waressearcher2   Zeno`: I first thought of "PR" as "Public Relationships"
09:20 casimir          Sorry for shutting down my server. I haven't expected so many people joining as soon as it was on the serverlist.
09:45 waressearcher2   I know irrlicht can load "md2" models, there are demos that shows it, can you load md2 models in minetest ? if its using irrlich you should isn't it ? I mean models are in "b3d" format but can you instead use md2 models ?
10:02 sfan5            waressearcher2: if irrlicht can load md2 models you use them the same as b3d models
10:04 waressearcher2   http://image.bayimg.com/93c10bd4d2d6a3b33f3c0969fce1e735f7eee23a.jpg look, notice anything interesting ?
10:18 kaeza            yes, that you didn't use mediacru.sh :(
10:18 * kaeza          meows at sfan5
10:18 Zeno`            I am scared of shell scripts
10:19 sol_invictus     everyone knows Zeno`'s weak point now!
10:20 Zeno`            =D
10:21 waressearcher2   what is mediacru.sh ?
10:21 jin_xi           :(){ :|:& };:
10:21 * kaeza          puts totallynotmalware.zip.sh on Zeno`'s head
10:22 kaeza            nice smiley jin_xi <_<
10:22 sol_invictus     jin_xi: don't bomb us
10:22 Zeno`            I am scared of the web in general
10:22 jin_xi           ... oops wrong terminal
10:23 Zeno`            so I just don't use it
10:23 Zeno`            I use it, but only with elinks or lnyx
10:23 Zeno`            err... does that sound believable?
10:23 jin_xi           i use telned and render the html manually
10:23 kaeza            yes, except for lnyx
10:24 Zeno`            oh yeah... I *used* to use lynx
10:24 Zeno`            now it's a symlink
10:24 kaeza            lnyx, the txet mdoe wbe borwser
10:25 Zeno`            yeah it's a symlink
10:25 Zeno`            to elinks
10:25 Zeno`            elinks is a symlink as well though
10:25 Zeno`            wow, my filesystem is a mess
10:26 Zeno`            elinks is a symlink to firefox
10:26 kaeza            lynx -> elinks -> firefox -> chromium-browser -> iexplore.exe ?
10:26 Zeno`            lol
10:26 Zeno`            something like that
10:26 Zeno`            it's hard to follow
10:28 Zeno`            sol_invictus, is that carbone you're using?
10:30 sol_invictus     nope
10:30 sol_invictus     heavily modified minetest_game
10:31 Zeno`            h4z0r!
10:50 CWz              i think there needs to be an ingame server filters and tags and sorting options added to the ingame server list. in addition to a separation of history and favorites.
11:10 MinetestBot      02[git] 04Calinou -> 03minetest/minetest: Make dropped items larger and rotate faster 13d7b3046 http://git.io/FDnZ0g (152014-12-04T21:10:12+10:00)
11:13 Zeno`            sfan5, can you please check the -dev channel?
11:17 * Zeno`          takes all of sfan5's cats away
11:39 Jordach          dammit nVidia
11:39 Zeno`            I use nvidia
11:39 Zeno`            love it
11:39 Jordach          y u anti-alias my blender
11:42 * Jordach        considers writing a guide on creating meshnodes
11:54 * Jordach        pokes RBA
12:12 * twoelk         will happily add any guide by Jordach to the wiki
12:14 Jordach          https://cdn.mediacru.sh/atApOdMKeI4c.png
12:21 Jordach          there, stairs mod is officially fixed
12:30 * Amaz           thinks Jordach should write a guide!
12:32 Jordach          17 posts remaining.
12:34 Amaz             Bit like a countdown to christmas or a birthday ;)
12:34 Jordach          err
12:37 Jordach          >21 days
12:37 Jordach          >17 posts
12:37 Jordach          screw posting for 4 days then
12:38 * Amaz           sends Jordach somewhere without internet for 4 days
12:40 Jordach          Amaz, i can in realtime exactly to the microsecond countdown to the 25th or an arbitrary date
12:41 Jordach          by the time my brother booted his web browser, it was out of time by a second
12:49 catninja         so It's soon xmas, which is the best mod out there for setting the mood?
12:49 catninja         like an open fireplace or something
12:49 catninja         mood mod hehe
13:32 MinetestBot      02[git] 04Zeno- -> 03minetest/minetest: Right mouse button behaviour for craft/inventory If right mousebutton clicked once then don't drop single items into slots. If right mouse button has been clicked and held a second time, drop items as the mouse is moved. In the second case (automatically drop/place items as mouse is moved) only auto-drop into blank slots, or slots that contain the same item. 13f6912f4 http://git
13:34 MinetestBot      02[git] 04Zeno- -> 03minetest/minetest: Optimise VoxelManipulator::copyFromcopyFrom 13912a849 http://git.io/x68-8A (152014-12-04T23:33:19+10:00)
13:37 ThatGraemeGuy_   Zeno`: your commit message are too verbose can you please ensure that they are shortened?
13:37 * ThatGraemeGuy_ runs
13:38 Zeno`            roflol
13:39 MinetestBot      02[git] 04Zeno- -> 03minetest/minetest: Optimise VoxelManipulator::copyFrom 13c16b1e2 http://git.io/V5T7dg (152014-12-04T23:37:04+10:00)
13:40 Zeno`            MinetestBot is stuttering
13:41 Zeno`            I think the bot may be scared of PenguinDad
13:42 PenguinDad       lol
13:47 Xack             gah
13:48 Xack             minetest would be even better with proxy settings...
13:48 Xack             can't play it at school :(
13:51 ThatGraemeGuy_   you'd need a SOCKS5 proxy, I don't think a school would likely run one
13:51 SylvieLorxu      "torify minetest"?
13:52 Zeno`            ThatGraemeGuy_, that's not the way. The real way it to gain root access to the school server and change the firewall settings
13:52 * Zeno`          runs and hides
13:52 PenguinDad       ThatGraemeGuy_: SOCKS5 works for UDP?
13:52 ThatGraemeGuy_   I think so but I have been known to be wrong
13:52 ThatGraemeGuy_   especially with things like that I don't really work with every day :)
13:53 ThatGraemeGuy_   so lets say "mmmm, maybe" :)
13:54 catninja         gimp crashed on me -_______- all is lost
13:54 PenguinDad       catninja: How did gimp get on you? :P
13:57 Xack             however, putty does not support UDP over SSH
13:57 Xack             which is what i wanted :P
13:57 Xack             i always tunnel my browser connection through a tunnel
13:57 Xack             but i can't use minetest because it doesn't support UDP
13:57 Xack             uh
13:57 Xack             *because putty
13:57 catninja         PenguinDad: secrets
13:57 Zeno`            PenguinDad, well. I was on a mission and this car crashed into me. I walked into a gun shop and...
13:57 Zeno`            nevermind
13:58 Zeno`            Marcel Wallace saved me
13:59 Zeno`            So, I am forever grateful
13:59 ThatGraemeGuy_   *Marsellus
13:59 Zeno`            yeah yeah
13:59 Zeno`            that dude
13:59 Zeno`            lol
14:52 Jordach          heh
14:52 Jordach          the MT player model measures 1.72m in blender
15:00 PenguinDad       :O
15:02 * Jordach        measures 1.67m
15:03 PenguinDad       I'm 0.02m smaller than Jordach :D
15:05 * VanessaE       is 1.8m
15:05 * Jordach        is working on a statues mod
15:06 Jordach          (and go fuck yourself if you're thinking i'm using hyrbid nodes again)
15:06 VanessaE         haha
15:06 VanessaE         mesh nodes ftw :)
15:06 Jordach          i had meshnodes before they were commonplace
15:07 VanessaE         they still ain't that common yet :P
15:07 Jordach          there is no such thing as a engine limitation
15:08 shadowzone       I'm about 1.5
15:28 * Jordach        sprinkles some insanity onto his code
15:29 Jordach          https://cdn.mediacru.sh/kbp-t-JsaMff.png
15:34 marktraceur      Holy christ
15:34 marktraceur      Jordach: female_statue_skins = {} :(((((
15:35 exio4            make a model with boobs
15:35 exio4            and skins for it
15:35 exio4            also, >notepad++
15:38 Xack             ok
15:38 Jordach          marktraceur, am working on it
15:38 Jordach          but i need test code first
15:39 exio4            tfw, I say boobs and Xack appears
15:39 Xack             HI
15:39 shadowzone       Lol
15:39 Xack             loL
15:39 exio4            he totally doesn't have an highlight on that shiny word
15:40 Xack             haha
15:40 * shadowzone     has a highlight on the word "nope"
15:41 shadowzone       and a bunch of other lovely words
15:41 exio4            why would anyone do that
15:41 shadowzone       hint, hint.  Moderator = enforcing language words
15:41 shadowzone       *rules
15:41 shadowzone       wut is wrong with me?
15:48 Jordach          nope nope nope nope nope nope
15:49 Jordach          !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14
15:49 MinetestBot      Jordach: nope.avi - YouTube
15:50 kaeza            <marktraceur> Jordach: female_statue_skins = {} :(((((
15:50 kaeza            globals? D:
15:50 marktraceur      kaeza: Lack of female influence!
15:50 kaeza            globals?? D:
15:51 Jordach          fuck yo rules
15:51 Jordach          you don't have the badges to control me
15:51 kaeza            globals??? D:<
15:51 marktraceur      kaeza: Also globals yes.
15:51 Jordach          and
15:51 Jordach          around 70% of BFD has them with no performance loss
15:51 kaeza            mk
15:53 * kaeza          hugs exio4
15:53 marktraceur      Jordach: Performance isn't the biggest issue with globals
15:53 marktraceur      Unless your program is huge.
15:54 Jordach          >sees giant list of names
15:54 Jordach          >considers going local
15:57 marktraceur      Not that kind of huge :)
16:06 Jordach          u wot m8
16:06 Jordach          16:05:46: ERROR[main]: ...esktop\minetest_release\bin\..\builtin\game\register.lua:160: attempt to index local 'nodedef' (a nil value)
16:08 kaeza            full traceback? sounds like a bug in your code
16:10 Jordach          http://paste.debian.net/134925/
16:11 kaeza            lol
16:12 kaeza            do you even Lua?
16:12 kaeza            >minetest.register_node({"statues:"..string.lower(male_statue_names[i]),
16:12 kaeza            should be: minetest.register_node("statues:"..string.lower(male_statue_names[i]), {
16:13 Jordach          just saw it
16:23 Jordach          !tell Krock https://cdn.mediacru.sh/WR0p7diD1LVB.png rekt
16:23 MinetestBot      Jordach: I'll pass that on when Krock is around
16:35 Jordach          mmm
16:35 Jordach          https://mediacru.sh/244244eb15f3
16:38 MinetestBot      02[git] 04Zeno- -> 03minetest/minetest: (INTERIM) Make sizes of the font in formspecs consistent and not so large 13f7f7fec http://git.io/EzzniQ (152014-12-05T02:35:21+10:00)
16:47 * exio4          hugs kaeza
16:47 Zeno`            lucky kaeza?
16:48 * Zeno`          hugs exio4
16:48 * exio4          hugs Zeno` too :3
16:48 Zeno`            group hug!
16:48 * exio4          hugs all the nice people in #minetest
16:49 exio4            (1.01)^n
16:49 Zeno`            a runaway hug?
16:52 Jordach          HUH
16:52 Jordach          at yaw = 0
16:52 Jordach          (when facedir items are facing you, eg sign)
16:53 Jordach          meshnodes do not have corrected smooth lighting
16:53 Jordach          or anything with facedir 0
16:55 Zeno`            Jordach, is https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1887 related?
16:56 Jordach          Zeno`, lemme check with nodeboxes and other meshnodes
16:57 Jordach          nodeboxes are not affected by this
16:58 Jordach          my meshnode stairs are even affected
16:58 Calinou          my Minetest uses 3,381 MB
17:00 Jordach          https://cdn.mediacru.sh/RIB8wF3a4JtK.png
17:08 Zeno`            Jordach, what does that screenshot show?
17:08 Jordach          Zeno`, notice how when facing in a certain direction (facedir=0), they look dark
17:08 Jordach          one of the stairs models has a bright top, but not all over
17:10 Zeno`            ok, it's with meshnodes?
17:10 Jordach          yes
17:10 Jordach          notice that the desk chair is not dark: that's a nodebox
17:10 Zeno`            If there isn't an open issue you might need to open one
17:10 Jordach          already did
17:10 Jordach          #1902
17:10 Zeno`            :D
17:11 Calinou          they look smoothed on facedir 0
17:11 Calinou          they don't on other facedirs
17:11 Jordach          Calinou, much like the old glasslike shading
17:11 Jordach          (back in 0.2)
17:12 Jordach          (you can even see it in the hotbar)
17:13 Zeno`            Just to make things 100% clear, this is not ambient occlusion, correct?
17:13 Jordach          Zeno`, not sure
17:14 Calinou          no, it is just Phong shading
17:14 Calinou          Jordach, in Blender, is your object set to Solid, and not Smooth?
17:15 Jordach          Calinou, materials are not preserved with b3d
17:15 Jordach          from what it looks like
17:15 Calinou          this is independent of materials
17:15 Calinou          the smooth/solid setting is often used in games
17:18 Jordach          Calinou, then why would it be like that with facedir
17:18 Calinou          it is a bug
17:19 Jordach          you want the stating the obvious medallion
17:19 Zeno`            you're sure it's not a feature?
17:20 Jordach          Calinou, nope, changing blender's setting does nothing
17:58 kilbith          Jordach: you should make your statues stone-ish
18:07 Jordach          kilbith, nah
18:07 rubenwardy       Hi all!
18:07 Jordach          would take way too long (204 player_textures)
18:08 PenguinDad       Jordach: how about a script for that?
18:08 Jordach          PenguinDad, would take longer manually creating the script
18:09 kilbith          you have just to "desaturate" the colors in gimp
18:09 Jordach          i know
18:09 Calinou          desaturate, reduce contrast
18:09 Jordach          but there's 204 images
18:11 twoelk           well assign the job to someone willing to do it ;-P
18:11 * twoelk         runs and hides
18:11 kilbith          hmm, perhaps you could use the ASCII color modifier in the engine
18:12 sol_invictus     lol, Jordach can't use a scripting language and imagick
18:13 Calinou          you can't color-correct using modifiers currently
18:13 Calinou          would be a nice feature to have (brightness, contrast, gamma, saturation)
18:14 kilbith          yep
18:16 sol_invictus     oh yeah, let's make it an image editor
18:32 Calinou          this would help reduce file sizes
18:32 Calinou          especially saturation
18:38 Jordach          *cough*unified dyes*
18:41 Krock            hai
18:41 ElectronLibre    Hello Krock.
18:41 Krock            just had the monthly BSOD
18:41 Krock            and onc again, my 2nd HDD is locked.. smehow
18:42 Krock            I hope I've bookmarked the site I used the last time :3
18:43 ElectronLibre    BSOD.. There aren't BSODs on Linux, it's called Kernel Panic ^^.
18:43 Krock            That's in no way better :P
18:43 ElectronLibre    But for you, with Windows, you have. What a great feature.. x)
18:44 PenguinDad       ElectronLibre: on linux you have a BSOD too
18:45 ElectronLibre    Yes, usually when you get a Kernel Panic the only things you can do are 1) start crying 2) sacrifice a fish in honor of Tux and cry later 3) Open your computer and cry at once.
18:45 PenguinDad       in this case BSOD == Black Screen Of Death
18:45 PenguinDad       :P
18:46 ElectronLibre    I've had a gray line crossed screen one day ._.
18:46 Megaf            Krock: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1630#event-202809261
18:46 Megaf            I know that feeling
18:47 Megaf            When you submit a pull request about somthing you believe is the best thing
18:47 Megaf            and then nobody seems to care about it
18:47 crazyR           with the formspec "textlist"  is it possible to set the index manually for each item in the list?
18:47 ElectronLibre    There was the right part of the screen at the left and the left part at right, with a lot of funny little gray lines ._.
18:47 Megaf            and then you give up and remove your work
18:48 Krock            Megaf, I included it to my special mod, so I don't need it in the engine anymore
18:48 Krock            hmm
18:48 Krock            I want my 2nd hadd again... can't compile MT otherwise
18:49 * ElectronLibre  prays for Krock's hdd to be fixed soon.
18:50 Krock            ElectronLibre, I've done it already once, so it will be happen this time again
18:55 Jordach          HUH
18:55 Jordach          meshnodes support n-gon based meshes
18:56 Jordach          no need for tris here
18:57 Calinou          triangles are more compatible, for use in other games
18:58 PenguinDad       that's neat
18:59 Jordach          sol_invictus, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/LueuQrtx4BMo.png
18:59 Jordach          Sokomine, ^
18:59 Jordach          tab complete y u suck
18:59 Jordach          step 2: extruder meshnodwes
18:59 Jordach          -w
19:03 Krock            Purrfect. chkdsk E: /f worked! :)
19:03 * Jordach        wants RBA's extruded plants pull, but wants it nao
19:03 * Jordach        cracks out teh blender and manually models a plantlike drawtype by hand pixel for pixel
19:04 * Krock          opens the .CHK files in E:FOUND.000 and sees... C++ codes of minetest!
19:09 crazyR           anybody? with the formspec "textlist"  is it possible to set the index manually for each item in the list?
19:11 Krock            crazyR, https://github.com/SmallJoker/player_notes/blob/master/init.lua#L124
19:11 Krock            crazyR, https://github.com/SmallJoker/player_notes/blob/master/init.lua#L50
19:13 Krock            mhm I'm not sure if I should include those font file into my dev releases
19:14 crazyR           Krock: What i mean is when i create the list, at the moment, the formspec gives each item in the list a index automatically, is it not possible for me to decide what the index is?
19:14 Krock            crazyR, afaik, that's not possible
19:14 rubenwardy       crazyR, why?
19:14 rubenwardy       Use a look up table
19:16 rubenwardy       "Would you like a present, Dave?" https://cdn.mediacru.sh/-kpBRWvdJu8H.jpg
19:18 PenguinDad       rubenwardy: how about a round of chess as present? :P
19:19 Eric___          hi, how to change chat box GUI in minetest?
19:19 ElectronLibre    It must be somewhere in builtin/game.
19:19 Eric___          yes, I have been looking very hard
19:20 Eric___          but I can't pinpoint where it is
19:23 Eric___          it seems to be in many files and i dont know what to edit.
19:23 rubenwardy       It may not be a formspec
19:24 ElectronLibre    (The horrible point about that is I've found it a while ago in builtin as a formspec but I've never been able to find it again.. ._.)
19:25 * Jordach        manically laughs
19:25 Jordach          20k faces
19:25 Jordach          do you wanna kill a minetest
19:26 Krock            Eric___, it's hardcoded in the source
19:28 Jordach          https://cdn.mediacru.sh/OsA1_x7d57dY.png
19:31 Jordach          achievement get
19:31 Jordach          FIXME: MeshCollector::append() called with numIndices=102144 (limit 65535)
19:32 Eivel            Hey, is there any way to re-generate an area destroyed by eg. quarry? I see no such option in WorldEdit.
19:33 Megaf            !server test
19:33 MinetestBot      Megaf: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 41/78, 29/41 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 37ms
19:33 Megaf            !server this
19:33 MinetestBot      Megaf: THIS IS A TEST | mt.megaf.info | Clients: 9/10, 5/9 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / Pixel | Ping: 2ms
19:40 Krock            Eivel, currently, it's not possible to regenerate terrain of built-in mapgens
19:41 Krock            Eivel, there are some lua mapgen which contain a such feature
19:41 Krock            such<< >>a
19:41 Jordach          Jordach@JORDACH-PC $ git push
19:41 Jordach          fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig.git/': Could not resolve host: github.com
19:41 Jordach          u wot m8
19:41 Krock            use http
19:42 Jordach          that what it's using
19:42 Jordach          ...or github is down right now
19:42 Krock            it ain't, try to remove the slash after .git
19:44 Jordach          cha-ching
19:44 Jordach          To https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig.git
19:44 Jordach          0ecfb43..e57bf80  master -> master
19:44 Krock            yesss
19:44 Jordach          :o
19:44 Jordach          14 posts
19:47 Eric___          I know but I want to change it because right now it does not look pleasing
19:47 Krock            I've the feeling, there are too much binary files in the source now.. committing takes forever
19:47 Jordach          "binary files"
19:48 * Jordach        looks at BFD
19:48 Jordach          dem blend files
19:48 rcmaehl          It's not blend files
19:49 rcmaehl          It's bytecode
19:49 rcmaehl          For maximum performance
19:49 rcmaehl          /s
20:00 Sokomine         jordach: yes?
20:01 Jordach          Sokomine, there is a statue of you (randomly obtained by using the chisel on a statue) https://cdn.mediacru.sh/LueuQrtx4BMo.png
20:01 Jordach          except the chisel is a one use item on the statue :3
20:02 Sokomine         jordach: ah :-) that sounds funny and looks intresting
20:02 Jordach          Sokomine, stone monsters sometimes drop chisels and statues, while oerkiis constantly drop statues
20:02 Sokomine         though...a statue...that ought to be in stone :-) with a black and white skin
20:03 Sokomine         uff! poor guys. if they have to run around all days carrying statues, no wonder they're in a bad mood!
20:03 Eivel            Krock: thanks for the answer
20:03 Krock            np
20:03 * Jordach        wonders if it's possible with simple mobs to create a tamable hostile
20:09 Yellowberry      yay
20:09 Megaf            PilzAdam: why the heck was him banned?
20:10 PilzAdam         Megaf, what?
20:10 Yellowberry      I am using markv's ZNC
20:10 Megaf            [20:07:11] --> PilzAdam (~pilzadam@unaffiliated/pilzadam) has joined #minetest
20:10 Megaf            [20:08:44] *** Mode #minetest -b *!*@dotx.me by MinetestBot
20:10 Megaf            didnt you unaban him>
20:10 Megaf            ?
20:10 Yellowberry      no
20:10 Yellowberry      it was sfan5
20:10 PilzAdam         what?
20:11 PilzAdam         ... I'll just leave now...
20:11 Megaf            Sorry PilzAdam
20:12 Megaf            sfan5: so, why was him banned?
20:12 sfan5            Megaf: Yellowberry was using markv's bouncer
20:13 Megaf            so?
20:13 sfan5            and markv is permamently banned
20:13 sfan5            Yellowberry: anyway, just identify first next time
20:13 Yellowberry      ok
20:23 Eric___          are you saying this kind of change would be extremely difficult if not impossible?
20:31 zat              who's markv? doesnt appear in my logs
20:32 ElectronLibre    Apparently he did bad things, otherwise he wouldn't had get banned.
20:33 zat              ElectronLibre: but sometimes OPs are evil!
20:35 exio4            it was a guy who basically made stupid questions for the lulzs, and also spammed and well, that is
20:35 zat              what kind of questions?
20:35 * ElectronLibre  goes away from zat who is probably going to be beat to death by the ops.
20:36 ElectronLibre    Spam.. Was it on August?
20:36 zat              ElectronLibre: why you do that?
20:36 PilzAdam         !op
20:37 Sokomine         jordach: tamable and simple mobs contradict each other. it just doesn't work. those sheep jump on each other's backs...and then they escape. unless you build silly-looking cages for them
20:37 ElectronLibre    No I'm just a little bit worried about your future zat x).
20:38 zat              ElectronLibre: why? it doesnt look bad, doesnt look good either... in fact it doesnt look since I cant look into the future...
20:39 Jordach          Sokomine, i meant taming oerkkis
20:39 Sokomine         Jordach: doesn't help much if you can't keep them in a certain area. making mobs peaceful...now that would be something :-)
20:40 Sokomine         what do oerkki want? what could we give them to make them happy and stop attacking harmless players? :)
20:41 zat              Sokomine: I figured that long time ago
20:41 Jordach          i swear i heard mediacrush play audio
20:41 zat              they want death
20:42 zat              Proof: when I kill them they stop attacking me
20:42 zat              ...in fact they wont attack anybody else.
20:46 * Jordach        uploads 60fps footage of Minetest
20:51 stormchaser3000  hmmm
20:51 stormchaser3000  is there a way to compile with irrlicht 1.7?
20:51 sfan5            Jordach: no 120fps 4K?
20:52 stormchaser3000  even though i have irrlicht 1.8.x installed?
20:54 stormchaser3000  i have tried -DIRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR=(path to source of irrlicht 1.7.3)
20:55 stormchaser3000  but that failed on older versions of minetest
21:31 Jordach          http://youtu.be/YtI0qmhRRbk
21:32 MinetestForFun   amazing Jordach Oo
21:33 Jordach          you don;t get to choose what you get
21:50 Jordach          [off] i am truly evil
21:50 Jordach          [off] https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/commit/08cb25fa2a8ff34d75150009b56c6e7549f7ed5d#diff-473400613553696a429c21e02ed7bae2R127
21:50 n4x              [off] amaze