Time Nick Message 00:00 Megaf !server Megaf 00:00 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / MegafXplore | Ping: 4ms 00:01 axecute what are the sizes of the blocks? 00:02 Megaf all mushrooms are back :P 01:03 LittleJoe what's the are protect commands for shadowninja's protect mod? 01:04 ShadowNinja LittleJoe: Read the README. 01:04 LittleJoe ok 01:05 LittleJoe I knew them at some point but I keep forgeting lol 02:26 luizrpgluiz hi 02:38 Fritigern !server Pacata 02:38 MinetestBot Fritigern: Pacata | 67.170.30.149 | Clients: 1/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / pacata | Ping: 168ms 02:45 jentron Is there a 'Dropper' mod? A Dropper being a chest that will drop out an item when its button is pushed 04:42 BFett hello 04:43 VanessaE hi 04:52 LazyJ VanessaE, in order to submit a pull request, do I have to clone the mod repository from GitHub first? 04:52 VanessaE generally yeah 04:52 VanessaE but it's possible to do it from the website too 04:52 LazyJ What do you use to manage your uploads of GitHub stuff? 04:52 VanessaE (you can launch an editor on the website and then pull-request the edited file) 04:52 VanessaE I do it all from the command line 04:53 LazyJ Ouch. 04:53 AgentFire VanessaE: Can I ask you a favor? 04:53 LazyJ I like the commit comments that are different for each line, but doing that by command-line puts me off. 04:53 VanessaE hm? 04:54 LazyJ Ok, I'll tinker around with GitHub practice tests for a while. 04:54 LazyJ Thanks, VanessaE ;) 04:54 VanessaE good luck :) 04:54 AgentFire VanessaE: I need help setting up a redstone thingy with sticky pistons 04:54 AgentFire Are you good at that kind of stuff? 04:54 VanessaE minetest doesn't have redstone :P 04:54 VanessaE maybe you mean mesecons :P 04:54 AgentFire Mesecon :P 04:55 VanessaE well there's not much to it really 04:58 AgentFire VanessaE: Well, I'm having a hard time, can you come to liberty land and help me 04:58 VanessaE not right now I can't 04:58 VanessaE gotta run, actually 04:58 VanessaE bbl 05:26 jentron Is there a 'Dropper' mod? A Dropper being a chest that will drop out an item when its button is pushed? 05:29 VanessaE technic has something like that I think 08:50 Zeno` hi all :) Does anyone here have moderator access to the forums? 11:29 galun Hi, does anyone know what this error means? /mods/default/player.lua:97: attempt to call method 'set_local_animation' (a nil value) 11:35 PilzAdam galun, you are using a new minetest_game with an old engine version 11:38 galun I don't think so, I just removed the old debian package and compiled eleron55-minetest-9192380. How can I check that? 11:38 PilzAdam run minetest --version 11:40 PilzAdam galun, oh, wait; celeron55's repo is outdated 11:40 PilzAdam the main repo is at https://github.com/minetest/minetest 11:40 galun Minetest 0.4.9 Using Irrlicht 1.7.3 11:41 galun Oh, okay. I'll try that. Thanks :) 11:43 stormchaser3000 i think the first post of this topic needs to be moved to the megaf 4.0 server topic 11:43 stormchaser3000 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=10625 11:44 stormchaser3000 the person misunderstood the word "builds" 12:28 kaeza mornings 12:29 marktraceur Goot morrnink, comrade kaeza 12:29 hacker \o 12:31 kaeza o/ 13:56 Megaf Hi everyone 13:57 Megaf Zeno`: Hi there, are you here? 13:59 Megaf [11:43] i think the first post of this topic needs to be moved to the megaf 4.0 server topic 13:59 Megaf [11:43] https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=10625 13:59 Megaf I can't find that post 14:00 Amaz Probably been deleted now. 14:00 Amaz And I think megaf should have been replaced with xanadu.. 14:00 Megaf Amaz: Hi there :) 14:00 Amaz Hi! 14:01 Megaf Amaz: I managed to reduce the upload size from 4.1 GB to 1.2 GB 14:01 Megaf and the uploading time was about three hours only :) Server is back as nothing had happened :D 14:01 Amaz Nice :D 14:05 btoothpick Greetings 14:06 btoothpick VanessaE, do you have a colors.txt for the minetest-mapper that includes all nodes used with Dreambuilder? 14:08 y :D Gnocchi 14:09 btoothpick Should a generated map be a rectangle? Or is this correct: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3281327/minetest/marty.png 14:09 ThatGraemeGuy btoothpick: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt is the most current one AFAIK 14:10 ThatGraemeGuy btoothpick: that map is a rectangle, only thing is that some parts of the map have not yet been generated, and those parts are white 14:10 ThatGraemeGuy if you turn on the X/Z axis/scale/whatever its called you can see more clearly 14:22 btoothpick These isometric maps for Minecraft look neat: http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/mapping-and-modding/minecraft-tools/1260548-mcmap-isometric-renders-ssp-smp-minecraft-1-3-1 14:23 btoothpick VanessaE, please ignore my colors.txt request if this link is accurate: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt 14:24 diemartin http://maximumble.thebookofbiff.com/comics/2014-11-24-0990.png 14:25 kaeza wrong link, this one instead https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8375452160/h46C3FD1E/ 14:35 shadowzone Megaf: did you ever fix that problem you had with the server? 14:35 Megaf shadowzone: what problem? 14:35 Megaf !server Megaf 14:35 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/10, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / MegafXplore | Ping: 2ms 14:36 shadowzone Didn't you have a problem with it yesterday? 14:36 Megaf shadowzone: yep, two problems, I had to reinstall everything from ground up and restore the map and mods and game from a backup 14:36 shadowzone OH. 14:37 shadowzone Sounds fun 14:37 Megaf It took me five hours to get it back 14:37 shadowzone Yowzah! 14:37 shadowzone That is unfortunate. 14:50 Megaf shadowzone: yep, on the bright side, the server is quicker now, since everything is fressh 14:50 Megaf and I have also cleaned stuff 14:51 shadowzone Yeah 14:54 Megaf shadowzone: I will be cleaning all mushrooms 14:54 shadowzone Okay 14:55 shadowzone Sounds good we don't wanna be spreading ebola 14:55 y nice 14:55 Megaf lo 14:55 Megaf lol 15:01 luizrpgluiz hi 15:30 * btoothpick should have thanked ThatGraemeGuy before he left...if they come back when I am here I will. 15:30 btoothpick Is a map not fully generated until someone goes to that section? 15:31 Megaf Hi btoothpick 15:31 Megaf maps are generated on demand 15:32 btoothpick Interesting. 15:34 Megaf so, in minetest.conf you can configure how large is the area generated around the players 15:34 Megaf in blocks 15:38 btoothpick When you reach the North end, do you move to the south end? 15:38 btoothpick In other words, does the map wrap like Earth? 15:38 PenguinDad btoothpick: no it doesn't 15:39 btoothpick PenguinDad, thanks. 15:39 btoothpick Theoretically you could put teleport nodes that would teleport to the opposite side? 15:40 Megaf btoothpick: yep, in theory you could feel up all the 64000 nodes that make each morder with automatic teleporters 15:41 Megaf 64000 nodes on each border 15:41 Megaf PenguinDad: have you ever reached the limit? 15:42 btoothpick I need all text from the windows minetest server to be stored in a text file... 15:42 btoothpick something like >recordings.txt in the bat 15:43 Megaf ouch, windows 15:43 Megaf :) 15:43 DFeniks seems to complicated to set so many teleporters 15:43 Zeno` err I am not here. still don't know how to work this Androud ;3 15:43 btoothpick I know, freenode almost demands linux or something besides windows. 15:43 Megaf DFeniks: maybe a Lua mapgen could do that 15:44 Megaf btoothpick: There are Windows users here 15:44 PenguinDad Megaf: only with teleporting 15:45 Megaf PenguinDad: and what happened? 15:45 Megaf or what happens when you get there 15:45 DFeniks im not expert but cant something be written to simply teleport player to inverted x or z location ? like x 8000 would become x -8000 ? 15:45 Megaf does it creates a wormhole or something? 15:45 PenguinDad Megaf: The border is just an invisible wall 15:46 PenguinDad minetest's world doesn't end in itself 15:46 Megaf so, you still see land after that? 15:46 PenguinDad Megaf: you don't see land behind the border 15:48 btoothpick debug_log_level = 4 in the minetest.conf should do what I want. 15:50 btoothpick DFeniks, yes, like inverted x + or - 1 so it doesn't keep going back and forth... 15:54 twoelk btoothpick: you could study the Tutorial-Map-Game from Wuzzy. If you fall of the map, if you get below a certain hight you are teleported back 15:55 Wuzzy link: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10192 15:55 twoelk should be similar code possible for horizontal values 16:01 btoothpick Thanks twoelk 16:05 hisforever Hi I just laid rail down into a mine and put a box on the rails it moved great . but I had another box on the rails and needed to remove it now I can't even //p set it to remove it 16:06 kilbith hisforever: Ctrl+click 16:06 kilbith or Alt+click 16:07 hisforever ty I'll try that 16:20 btoothpick Still haven't gotten the log working in windows correctly yet...thought running the minetest.bat >c:\log.txt would work, but it only shows the output like terminate batch job when canceling, and the not output of who connects and what they do. 16:24 Calinou meshrooms! 16:24 Calinou 16:27 PilzAdam btoothpick, setting debug_log_level in minetest.conf should write it to debug.txt in the directory of minetest.exe 16:29 PilzAdam Megaf, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1867#issuecomment-64196207 why don't you grant your players noclip then? 16:30 btoothpick Got it, minetest.bat 2>log.txt 16:30 btoothpick The 2 makes it display the output shown. 16:30 btoothpick I didn't see the debug.txt file in that path PilzAdam 16:34 Calinou sometimes noclip makes it too easy 16:34 Calinou in Minecraft you don't have noclip 16:34 kilbith PilzAdam: noclip is a way too extreme solution for that... 16:37 pitriss hi, please, is possible to rotate entity around horizontal axis? 16:37 PilzAdam kilbith, extreme? 16:37 Calinou pitriss, no, only yaw is available, not pitch and roll :( 16:38 pitriss Calinou: ohh ok.. :/ thanks.. 16:42 hisforever how do I power these rails I'm putting in? 16:43 Calinou use a Mesecon Torch 16:44 hisforever ok ty do I put in the cart? 16:44 Calinou no, you put the torch next to the rail. 16:44 hisforever oh 16:47 * Krock discovered cr code 16:47 * Krock means qr 16:56 hisforever wow that's cool having that cart run the rails 16:57 Krock boost_cart for the win! 16:58 hisforever Krock whats the cr code? 16:58 Krock * Krock means qr 16:58 Krock those black n' white images 16:58 hisforever ok ty 16:59 hisforever I'd love to ride down ib 17:00 hisforever in the cart but can't seem to get in fast enough lol 17:02 Calinou more rails 17:03 Krock more mese 17:05 Krock kilbith, not daily builds. just 1-2 the week 17:09 hisforever I'd like to be able to do world edit on a multiplayer server that woiuld be cool 17:11 Calinou you need the privilege, that's all 17:22 kaeza unified_morerails_plus: the ultimate mod 17:29 catninja OldCoder: I heard you wanted pictures from your servers so I've put up a teaser of my project on Lord of the test on our website(!) http://lordofthetest.se/?page_id=69 17:29 catninja the website is WIP 17:30 Krock kaeza, with flowing effects and hazards 17:56 OldCoder catninja, t y 17:58 rubenwardy Hi all 18:00 ElectronLibre Hello rubenwardy. 18:19 Krock shadowzone, found it? 18:19 shadowzone Found what? 18:19 Krock your wallet 18:20 shadowzone Oh. 18:20 shadowzone Yeah 18:20 shadowzone Lol 18:20 Krock good. 18:20 Krock !c 'H' + 'i rub' + 'enwardy ' 18:20 MinetestBot 'Hi rubenwardy ' 18:22 Krock what the fk, Paint.Net dropped support for win xp and vista 18:23 kaeza use ASEprite 18:23 marktraceur Krock: NO. Really?!?!?! 18:24 Krock marktraceur, yeah. I looked for updates and it din't show up any. the website shows 4.0 and my window title sais 3.5.. 18:24 Krock kaeza, cuz helpful and $, eh? 18:24 kaeza Krock, eh? 18:25 Krock eh. 18:25 kaeza >GPL 18:25 Calinou Krock, use GIMP, supports Vista ;) 18:25 Calinou kaeza, yes we know it is paid. compile it yourself 18:25 Calinou find some unofficial build if you can't 18:25 kaeza that goes to Krock 18:47 Krock !tell CoconutOfDeath gn 18:47 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when CoconutOfDeath is around 18:55 Illyasviel Is this made in java? 18:55 VanessaE no 18:55 Illyasviel GREAT! 18:55 VanessaE Minetest is in C++ with Lua for the game content 18:55 Illyasviel Does it support linux? 18:55 VanessaE yep 18:56 shadowzone Yes! 18:56 shadowzone LINUX FTW! 18:56 VanessaE most of the devs use Linux to do their work on also 18:56 Calinou also OS X and Android are supported 18:56 VanessaE yup, those too 18:56 VanessaE also, hi :) 18:56 Calinou there is a nodebox editor, a mapper (generates 2D views of Minetest worlds) 18:56 Calinou hi 18:56 VanessaE Calinou: did you see the models I posted for mesecons? 18:56 Calinou nope 18:56 VanessaE https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/192 18:56 shadowzone I am still trying to figure out how to use the minetestmapper 18:56 shadowzone And I've been playing for over a year 18:57 Illyasviel Oooh, its even in the repo! 18:57 Calinou should be blockier, VanessaE 18:57 Calinou how did you make water go in the watermill? 18:57 VanessaE Illyasviel: be careful with repo-supplied packages of minetest, they tend to be outdated, sometimes crashy 18:57 Calinou you can include .blend files in the mod, they won't be downloaded by clients 18:58 VanessaE Calinou: it's a single object that's two nodes high, the base of the node is the cube part, so the turbine part acts just like nodeboxes do - the engine doesn't realize they're there in the same space as the water, so it just renders them without caring 18:58 VanessaE the .blends are like 500+ kB each, but I'll make them available 18:59 Calinou idea: make a separate Git repository containing all of your sources 18:59 Calinou for all mods 18:59 Calinou of .blend 18:59 VanessaE I could do that maybe 19:00 VanessaE hey there's the man now :D 19:01 shadowzone Wow 19:01 shadowzone What a coincidence. 19:01 Jeija Are you talking about me, VanessaE? 19:01 VanessaE Calinou: also, I can't set "blocker" on that issue, it's not offered... why do you figure it needs to be marked as such? 19:01 VanessaE Jeija: of course :) 19:02 Jeija What's the issue? 19:02 VanessaE Jeija: talking about those models I submitted to mesecons. 19:03 Jeija ah ok, all right then 19:03 Megaf Hi all 19:04 Megaf PilzAdam: seriously? 19:04 PilzAdam Megaf, obviously? 19:05 kilbith minetestly 19:05 Megaf PilzAdam: Place a block where you are is just what one expects 19:05 shadowzone Hi Megaf 19:05 Megaf Going though walls is another thing 19:05 Megaf and to go though wall you need fly too 19:05 PilzAdam Megaf, do your player have the fly privilege? 19:06 Megaf PilzAdam: Of course not, is not a creative server 19:06 Megaf they have interact, shout and fast, that's it 19:06 shadowzone Except for moderators and security officers. 19:06 PilzAdam then noclip does exactly the same thing as the setting added in that pull request 19:06 * Krock gives PilzAdam an 's' 19:07 Megaf anyone here at my side? 19:07 Krock ope. 19:07 Krock +n 19:07 Megaf They shouldn't have removed the feature of placing block where you are 19:07 shadowzone I prefer that 19:07 shadowzone Makes it so you have to do more work and then you feel like you've done more in a day. 19:07 Megaf And it's actually a good mining aid that I don't mind them using 19:07 PilzAdam Megaf, it's not really removed; it's just bound to the noclip privilege 19:08 Megaf shadowzone: really? 19:08 shadowzone Yes 19:08 PilzAdam if you grant the players on your sever noclip, then you have exactly the same behavior as if the setting was added 19:08 * Krock has 2 dead pieces on his screen 19:09 Megaf pixels? 19:09 Krock yup. 19:09 Megaf Krock: are they black? 19:09 Krock never had this problem with my good old CRT screen :( 19:09 Krock Megaf, yes. 19:09 * ElectronLibre digs a grave for Krock's pixels. 19:09 Megaf Krock: how racist, calling black pixel dead pixels 19:09 * Krock is thankful about what ElectronLibre did 19:10 Calinou VanessaE, I never said you should add blocker 19:10 rubenwardy Calinou: chess? 19:10 ElectronLibre Yes, perhaps they are just sleeping. 19:10 Krock Megaf, it doesn't react. it seems to be dead. 19:10 Calinou rubenwardy, OK, how much time? 19:10 rubenwardy 10 - 20 minutes 19:10 Megaf Krock: yep, that happens =/ Is it a monitor or a laptop 19:10 Megaf ? 19:10 VanessaE OH, blockIER derp 19:11 Krock Megaf, desktop screen 19:11 Calinou per player? 19:11 PilzAdam Megaf, why don't you grant your players noclip? 19:11 VanessaE in this case I think it's a good balance between rounded/shaped and blocky. 19:11 Megaf You can try to reanimate them with a pixel utility from some websites, you move the blinking crazy square over the area of your dead pixel and leave there for some time 19:11 rubenwardy 20 minutes total 19:11 Megaf PilzAdam: I'm gonna wait for that to be merged 19:11 Megaf I understand no clip as going trhough walls. 19:11 Krock PilzAdam, cut site of auth.txt and management and cuz just so. 19:12 Megaf noclip* 19:12 Krock *cuz 19:12 Krock *size 19:12 * Krock throws some typos away 19:12 VanessaE Calinou: sorry, I misread before 19:12 Calinou no problem 19:12 shadowzone Krocks, pixel still dead? 19:13 PilzAdam Megaf, if you don't grant your players 'fly', then the only effect of 'noclip' is that they can place nodes inside of them 19:13 Krock shadowzone, yes :( 19:13 PilzAdam Megaf, do you understand this? 19:13 * shadowzone throws a splash potion of regeneration at Krocks dead pixels 19:14 Krock PilzAdam, granting this priv to all players would cause a [players]*7 bytes bigger auth.txt, at 30k player, it would be 21kb 19:14 Megaf Krock: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-fix-a-dead-pixel/ 19:14 Krock !c 30000*7 19:14 MinetestBot 210000 19:14 Krock 210 kb. 19:14 Megaf PilzAdam: In that case, the priv is missleading 19:14 Megaf It's a missnomer 19:14 Krock Megaf, >mobile 19:15 PenguinDad Krock: are you sure that auth.txt is ASCII? :P 19:15 Megaf Krock: http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-fix-a-dead-pixel/3/ 19:15 Krock PenguinDad, less than ASCII is almost impossible.. so >= 210 kb 19:15 PilzAdam Megaf, if it would follow your understanding, then players with noclip enabled and fly disabled would just fall through the world 19:15 PilzAdam that would be useless 19:16 PilzAdam Krock, http://www.mkomo.com/assets/hd-cost-graph.png 19:16 Calinou http://fr.lichess.org/rqr4rTd5YLVV 19:16 Calinou watch the game here ^ 19:16 Calinou http://lichess.org/rqr4rTd5YLVV 19:16 Calinou fixed link 19:16 shadowzone Krock, I hate it when that happens. 19:16 Calinou PilzAdam, they can also see while head is in block 19:17 Krock PilzAdam, just one measure point at 2010 19:18 Krock and the measure point at 1992 is broken 19:18 Krock same as 1993 19:25 Krock PilzAdam, http://calc.mkomo.com/graph -> y= cos(x*x*x)/sin(x*x) 19:26 Calinou http://fr.lichess.org/rqr4rTd5/black#1 19:26 Calinou http://lichess.org/rqr4rTd5/black#1 19:26 Calinou analyzed game 19:26 * ElectronLibre keeps the fr. away from the link. 19:26 PilzAdam Krock, I don't trust this site and don't want to enable javascript 19:26 kilbith you won, Calinou ? 19:26 Krock c'mon, PilzAdam 19:26 Calinou yes 19:27 kilbith good 20:02 * Jordach swags 20:05 Jordach_ https://cdn.mediacru.sh/W1D7pVOwOrX0.png 20:05 catninja *making pancakes, making (vegan) bacon pancakes* 20:07 Krock Jordach_, it's still loading. 20:13 sfan5 catninja: http://z0r.de/5432 20:19 VanessaE veganism.. blah 20:19 VanessaE you can keep your bean sprouts. give me my dead pig, my dead cow, and my dead chicken. 20:20 PilzAdam VanessaE, kill them yourself 20:20 VanessaE why? 20:20 VanessaE where's the logic? 20:20 kilbith "vegan" is an old indian word for say "bad hunter" 20:20 PilzAdam VanessaE, there is a theory that a lot of people would stop eating meat if they had to kill the animals themselves 20:20 VanessaE kilbith: hahaha 20:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: they's stop eating altogether if they had to farm their own vegetables, too. 20:21 VanessaE that theory is tripe. 20:21 * Jordach_ would happily use a shotgun 20:22 PilzAdam VanessaE, a lot of people already grow their own vegetables in their backyards 20:23 VanessaE most people don't. 20:23 VanessaE just as most people don't go out and hunt their own food. 20:23 VanessaE I would guess there are about as many hunters as there are people who grow their own vegetable gardens 20:24 Sokomine er...i hope not 20:24 Sokomine at least not here 20:24 VanessaE Sokomine: you'd be surprised. 20:24 PilzAdam also there is no need to eat dead animals or any products of animals nowadays 20:24 Sokomine diffrent country i'd say :-) 20:24 VanessaE PilzAdam: no need != no pleasure 20:24 VanessaE and there IS a need, vegetarians are generally not that healthy compared to meat eaters, and vegans especially so. 20:24 Sokomine many people here own a so-called "schrebergarten". if as many of them would go out hunting..... 20:24 PilzAdam I guess you are not talking about pleasure for animals ;-) 20:25 PilzAdam VanessaE, that is proven to be not true 20:25 VanessaE there've been a lot of studies to show that vegetarians and vegans do not routinely get all the nutrition they should from their chosen diets. 20:25 PilzAdam a lot of vegans are actually healthier, since they watch what they eat 20:26 PilzAdam there is basically everything you need to live in bananas and nuts 20:26 Sokomine there's a diffrence between vegetarians and vegans. vegetarians, afaik, that's no big diffrence. vegans are a diffrent matter. that is far more difficult 20:26 kilbith PilzAdam: wrong, every vegan needs vitaminic supplements. 20:27 VanessaE PilzAdam: a lot of vegans don't even know wtf "vegan" means. 20:27 PilzAdam Sokomine, it's actually not as difficult as you might think; a friend of mine is vegan 20:27 VanessaE I mean "vegan friendly leather" for example. 20:27 VanessaE think about that oxymoron for a moment 20:27 Sokomine maybe the cow died of old age...but it sounds odd, that's right :-) 20:28 Sokomine and besides, i didn't want to side with pilzadam here :-) although he may have a point here in this case :) 20:28 VanessaE Like I said, 20:28 kilbith but veganism remains good for an ecologic matter anyways 20:28 PilzAdam kilbith, as stated above: a friend of mine is vegan, doesn't take any vitaminic supplements and is medically observed for other, unrelated reasons 20:28 VanessaE you can keep your bean sprouts. give me my dead pig, my dead cow, and my dead chicken. 20:28 Sokomine still, a vegan died does require more consideration than a vegetarian one 20:28 VanessaE I enjoy a good, properly-cooked cheeseburger with all the fixin's. 20:29 VanessaE and I will NEVER give that stuff up. 20:30 PilzAdam VanessaE, I tried the so called, "fake meat" (soy, tofu, etc.) and it's actually pretty close to real meat 20:30 VanessaE BLEAH 20:30 VanessaE it is definitely NOT close to real meat 20:30 VanessaE I've had both 20:30 Sokomine there's not much point about battling over that anyway. diet is - at least for us that have enough to eat - our personal choice 20:30 VanessaE that stuff is nasty 20:30 VanessaE it's like eating....meat-flavored packed oatmeal or something 20:31 kilbith PilzAdam: some vitamins (like B12) and other oligo-elements doesn't exist in vegetables, it may cause some carence (and then rachistism) 20:31 VanessaE the consistency is all wrong, the flavor is wrong... 20:31 PilzAdam VanessaE, maybe you tried the wrong product? 20:31 VanessaE PilzAdam: I've tried at least a couple of such products 20:31 VanessaE even tried making my own 20:31 VanessaE spic FAIL 20:31 VanessaE epic* 20:31 VanessaE I will never go back to any kind of meat substitute again. 20:32 Sokomine kilbith: guess his friend replaces them with nuts and so on 20:32 Sokomine the clue does not seem to be to substitute meat. that doesn't really work (yet?). but there are plenty of extremly deliscious vegetarian meals :-) 20:33 VanessaE now, there's lab-grown meat I've heard about, which is actual muscle tissue grown from stem cells. 20:33 VanessaE get that down to a cheap price and I'll probably eat it. 20:33 Amaz Yuck. 20:34 VanessaE right now it's not exactly in supermarkets yet :P 20:34 Amaz I don't think I could bring myself to eat that :P 20:34 VanessaE Amaz: why "yuck"? 20:34 PilzAdam kilbith, your own guts produce vitamin b12 20:34 Amaz FOr some reason it sends me into shudders. 20:35 Amaz But, as I think about it, it seems more reasonable. 20:36 Sokomine would be too expensive for it yet i think :-) 20:36 Sokomine but it's an intresting concept, that artificially grown meat. perhaps it could solve our problems in the future 20:37 kilbith the human body can only support organic/natural food in the long run 20:38 kilbith the future for food is consacred for insects 20:43 TheGreenOne Is there a way to find an old building in minetest? Something like looking through building logs to determine location? 20:44 VanessaE if your logs go back far enough 20:45 VanessaE there should be indications in your logs "singleplayer placed X at (xxxxxxx)" or so 20:45 VanessaE I forget the exact format of the text 20:45 VanessaE but it's not like the engine knows that you build a mansion, only that you placed block after block after block in a bunch of locations 20:46 VanessaE those should be logged 20:48 TheGreenOne OK thanks. It was the first thing I ever built in world. Didn't know if I could take a look at the database files or what. 20:50 Megaf Interesting 20:50 Megaf it seems like rsync can candle sqlite properly 20:50 Megaf doing incremental backups on it 20:51 sfan5 Megaf: sqlites fault 20:52 Megaf s/candle/handle 20:52 sfan5 rsync does not "handle" file contents different for diff. formats 20:52 Megaf sfan5: fault? 20:52 sfan5 yes 20:52 Megaf well, Im glad it works 20:52 sfan5 rsync does not care about what format the content is in 20:52 sfan5 if it doesn't work it's either sqlite or a limitation in rsync 20:52 sfan5 but not a bug 20:54 OldCoder TheGreenOne, yes, logs, but you can also search the SQLite3 file 20:54 OldCoder Using specially written scripts 20:55 OldCoder I have written such a script but it is presently too slow for general use 20:55 OldCoder I unpack each mapblock and look for non-natural nodes 20:55 TheGreenOne I've opened the sqlite file and got the position of the first block. I just don't know how the positions are formated. 20:56 OldCoder I will ultimately post the code for my script. I need to rewrite it first. 20:57 OldCoder jojoa|sad, what is bad? Is comfort to be had, lad, that you are not sad or mad? 20:57 Sokomine hm, creating a map for the world in question might also help. it seems most players in singleplayer who are not aware of /sethome and /home loose their first buildings 20:57 OldCoder Yes, map is a good option 20:57 OldCoder If house is not too small 20:57 jojoa|sad there is not enough characters for jojoa|confused so sad is the closet feeling right now 20:58 OldCoder Characters? 20:58 * OldCoder is on an errand 20:58 jojoa|confused oh it works 21:00 Megaf sfan5: quite interesting stuff 21:01 Megaf but, so there is fault nowhere 21:01 TheGreenOne Yeah, I was unaware of the sethome feature :) 21:04 Sokomine TheGreenOne: many people are at first. it's a very useful feature :-) 21:04 Sokomine are you new to the game? 21:05 TheGreenOne sokomine: Yeah, I just started. I had a mansion, swimming pool, church, trading post, etc. 21:06 Megaf there is not sethome on my server... The ironic thing is, it was one of the very first servers that had that mod 21:07 Megaf and now it is built in minetest 21:08 TheGreenOne Are the sqlite entries in any particular order? 21:09 TheGreenOne I get pos as a big long number and then blob 21:10 TheGreenOne Also, what about the map thing? Program for that? 21:10 Sokomine TheGreenOne: ah :-) there are a few mods you might like. try out unified_inventory. it has bags, a craft guide and nice home and sethome buttons 21:11 Sokomine pos is derived from x,y and z coordinates of one mapblock (16x16x16 blocks) using a mathematical formular to combine them into a number 21:11 Sokomine the program for creating an overview map is called minetestmapper 21:31 TheGreenOne I have mapped the area but don't know where I am :) 22:33 hisforever Hi everyone blessings 22:33 VanessaE hi 22:33 hisforever Hows Vanessa tonight 22:33 VanessaE I'm ok 22:34 hisforever great I'm good too 22:43 hisforever is there a way to make the mining car go with out puishing it"? 22:43 VanessaE use powered rails 22:43 VanessaE run mesecons wires along them to a power source/switch 22:44 hisforever ok ty I knew there were mesecon tourches but mot wire ty 22:45 exio4 how is it going wild minetesters?! 22:49 VanessaE meh 22:49 VanessaE it goes. 22:57 mitrom Hi there 23:00 zBuilder are there any inventory mods that sort items based on which mod they come from or do they all sort them alphabetically? 23:01 CraigyDavi Well most of them sort it by alphabetically mod name and then alphabetically node name 23:01 CraigyDavi I don't know of any others which do it differently 23:02 zBuilder I am using unified inventory but it seems to scatter a few of the mod's items across, and there's some things I'd like to use, but don't want to dig through every time to find. 23:05 mitrom any arch users? 23:15 kaeza I thought UI ordered first by mod, then by item, alphabetically... 23:16 kaeza zBuilder, in any case, the search field may make things easier