Time  Nick            Message
00:02 JohnnyComeL8ly  Hi, can we talk here of that stuff, VanessaE?
00:02 VanessaE        there's nothing else to say :P
00:02 VanessaE        I'm out of ideas
00:02 JohnnyComeL8ly  The one guy was saying that he remembers an issue already being open.
00:03 VanessaE        yeah, but I wouldn't be able to find it either
00:04 JohnnyComeL8ly  I've been looking, and I think he's remembering someone else like me that mentioned it, but didn't follow through with it.
00:05 JohnnyComeL8ly  I'm going to label it "Incorrect inventory images displayed" on github, sounds good?
00:05 VanessaE        yeah
00:05 VanessaE        but if there IS another issue already like it, it'll get marked as a duplicate and closed
00:06 JohnnyComeL8ly  I looked, but I didn't see one.
00:09 JohnnyComeL8ly  https://github.com/minetest/minetest is where I should do it, right?
00:09 Fritigern       If it gets marked as a dupe, then it shouldmention the link to the issue that it is a dupe of. Revealing the original issue and allowing you to make comments on it
00:10 JohnnyComeL8ly  Okay, makes sense. (where though...)
00:11 VanessaE        that's the correct repo yes
00:11 VanessaE        issues -> New Issue
00:11 marktraceur     Wait, we aren't supposed to download minetest from http://gi7hub.ru/minetest/really-minetest ?
00:12 Fritigern       marktraceur: at link does not even resolve
00:12 Fritigern       *that
00:12 marktraceur     Yes, I know. Look up the word "trolling". It's next to my picture.
00:13 Fritigern       Oh, haha. I am so amused, i almost forgot to laugh
00:13 marktraceur     Fritigern: Remember to laugh
00:14 JohnnyComeL8ly  Okay.
00:15 JohnnyComeL8ly  Quick q: What is the screenshot hotkey?
00:17 JohnnyComeL8ly  I looked it up... F12
00:21 Fritigern       I would like to bind the screenshot key to another key, F12 is already taken by Yakuake for me
00:21 Fritigern       Unfortunately, the key config does not give me that option
00:22 Fritigern       Neither does minetest.conf, unless i have overlooked it
00:22 JohnnyComeL8ly  I pressed F12... Where is my picture going to be?
00:22 Fritigern       JohnnyComeL8ly: I don;t know, but i would assume either in ~/Pictures, or in the Minetest folder.
00:25 JohnnyComeL8ly  Okay, I found it in the bin folder.
00:25 Fritigern       Hmmm... No good. I feel that there should be a config op[tion for that
00:27 Fritigern       Okay, i stand very VERY ccorrected on everything i said about screenshots so far. Yes, it is possible to change the keymap for the screenshot. And it is also possible to change the path in the conf
00:27 Fritigern       keymap_screenshot = KEY_F12
00:28 Fritigern       screenshot_path = <insert desired path>
00:28 JohnnyComeL8ly  Okay.
00:46 JohnnyComeL8ly  Okay, this is it: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1838
00:46 JohnnyComeL8ly  The first of this kind of stuff for me.
00:53 Fritigern       Since you mentioned the crafting grid (that's what it's called), you may want to include a picture of that too. Also, do mention if you have any mods installed, devs like to know that too.
00:53 Fritigern       Other than that, looks great!
00:54 JohnnyComeL8ly  It is vanilla.
00:54 Fritigern       Don;t tell me that, put it in your bug report :-)
00:55 JohnnyComeL8ly  The reason I didn't is because the items look messed up in either place the same... If I still should, then say so.
00:58 Fritigern       I feel that you should. Because a dev would ask it too. Best to give them as much info as you can give them, so that they won;t have to ask. And if the info turns out to be not needed or irrelevant, then you still did as much as you could to help get the issue fixed
00:58 JohnnyComeL8ly  Okay, thanks.
01:22 hisforever      Hi where can I find blur print for buildings?
01:22 hisforever      blue not blur lol
01:23 VanessaE        blueprint?
01:24 VanessaE        minetest-specific, idk.  real blueprints, .....well...google :)
01:31 hisforever      minetest if possible I'm getting tired of the dane old build lol
01:32 hisforever      I
01:33 hisforever      VanessaE I want to thank you again for removing the trees And the land upgrade
01:35 VanessaE        no probs.
01:35 VanessaE        hey,
01:35 VanessaE        was that bulldozer yours?
01:36 hisforever      yes it was it was great
01:37 VanessaE        did you get my message? :P
01:37 hisforever      what message sorry
01:37 VanessaE        I had to make changes to it...
01:37 hisforever      understand
01:38 VanessaE        those quarries you used triggered what I think is a server engine bug
01:38 VanessaE        I removed them for now
01:38 VanessaE        also I made some minor changes to the tubes so that they can properly dispose of excess materials
01:39 hisforever      ty I was having trouble with that :)
01:39 VanessaE        you had a fair quantity of items just flowing back and forth through the tubes, going nowhere
01:39 hisforever      sorry
01:39 VanessaE        no worries
01:39 VanessaE        until the devs fix the problem, please don't use quarries
01:40 VanessaE        or at least, don't use so many in one place
01:40 hisforever      I'' keep my face clean lol
01:42 hisforever      I have 2 people that didn't have permissoon to move in my tower.
02:28 Sokomine        hisforever: my mg_villages mod comes with quite a lot of blueprints for buildings. though i'm thinking about testing the mod with other, new buildings as well
02:32 JohnnyComeL8ly  One of you want to give criticism on this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1838
02:34 JohnnyComeL8ly  As in, should I put some more info or something like that.
02:59 Fritigern       JohnnyComeL8ly: I think it looks good. You can make the debug stuffs look better by adding ``` on the line before and after the stuff.
02:59 Fritigern       But that is purely cosmetic
03:00 Fritigern       BTW, i think that the new pics are better than the ones you had there first. It's a lot easier to see what the problem is
03:06 JohnnyComeL8ly  Yeah, VanessaE to the rescue on the /time 12000
03:09 JohnnyComeL8ly  I'm learning, so it helps to have help. :-P
03:24 Sokomine        this happens if one screws up mapgen: https://mediacru.sh/Os0Sw5wDIyO9.jpg (my fault :-))
03:24 JohnnyComeL8ly  I actually noticed that the icons were different even for the same setting that is supposedly a potential problem (preload_item_visuals).
03:27 JohnnyComeL8ly  Fritigern: I think "```" is an escape sequence, or something like that... because it made [log] disapear when it was put before that; like, ```[log]
03:28 Fritigern       It needs to be put before AND after it
03:29 JohnnyComeL8ly  Yes look at it now...
03:29 VanessaE        JohnnyComeL8ly: just  ``` at the start and end
03:29 Fritigern       Awesome! Doesn;t that log look a lot better?
03:29 VanessaE        no [foo] tags
03:30 Fritigern       VanessaE: He already did that. Looks good now
03:30 JohnnyComeL8ly  No [log] you mean?
03:30 VanessaE        correct.
03:30 VanessaE        get rid of the [log] [/log] that you added
03:30 VanessaE        certain qualifiers ARE allowed, but if you just write ``` without anything after it, it's treated as plaintext.
03:32 JohnnyComeL8ly  Oh yes, most pretty now! What are the "qualifiers?"
03:32 VanessaE        https://github.com/github/linguist/blob/master/lib/linguist/languages.yml  has a list of all the types of syntax highlighting that github can use
03:32 VanessaE        (each line under "extensions" for a given language)
03:32 Fritigern       Also have a look at https://guides.github.com/features/mastering-markdown/ after you have read VanessaE's link :-)
03:33 VanessaE        so you could write ```lua and everything until the next ``` would be treated as and highlighted as Lua.
03:33 JohnnyComeL8ly  Okay, mine was just text, right?
03:33 VanessaE        yeah
03:33 VanessaE        logs are generally just plaintext, so ``` (with nothing after) is sufficient.
03:34 JohnnyComeL8ly  Ok.
03:34 VanessaE        gotta love github :)
03:35 JohnnyComeL8ly  I guess!  Thanks for the reads!
03:37 JohnnyComeL8ly  I'm going to have to make a note of those links.
03:45 JohnnyComeL8ly  Wow, they almost have their own language going...
03:45 JohnnyComeL8ly  Those Github folk do.
03:46 JohnnyComeL8ly  *folks
07:30 ThatGraemeGuy   anyone intimately familiar with pipeworks' injectors know if it would be possible to take item wear into account when adding items to filter?
07:32 ThatGraemeGuy   more specifically, technic's lava cans are implemented as 1 node with the level of fullness in the metadata
07:32 ThatGraemeGuy   so you can't currently filter only empty cans for instance
08:05 MinetestBot     02[git] 04Zeno- -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove most exceptions from getNode() (and variants) 135b8855e http://git.io/GmXGJQ (152014-11-14T18:05:34+10:00)
09:56 Fritigern       I am about to pull out my hair! Does anyone know how to work with leaflet?
09:58 Fritigern       I finally have the leaflet map to work... somewhat, but the order of the tiles is wrong! Also, i don;t know how to set the default view o a certain point on the map.
09:58 Fritigern       Have a look at this, but do zoom out the moment you arrive. http://67.170.30.149/map.html
10:09 Fritigern       Amaz, do you have any experience with leaflet?
10:09 Amaz            Non at all sorry.
10:09 Fritigern       Darn
10:09 Amaz            I don't even know what it is...
10:11 Fritigern       It lets you have a map on a website. See http://67.170.30.149/map.html for what it does, and look at http://www.ayntest.net/pages/liberty-land-map.html for what i want it to do
10:11 Amaz            Okay.
10:35 Fritigern       So, Amaz, i'm sure you see my problem now
10:38 Amaz            Yeah...
10:38 Amaz            Sorry I can't help...
11:23 Trixar_za       Hey, is there any zombie survival servers?
12:00 Zeno`           Megaf_, have you tried with SN's example?
12:00 Zeno`           It has not *directly* been addressed but it may have accidentally been addressed by my last push
12:02 Zeno`           or something else. I'm just saying it because my last merge changed many of the (get)NoEx functions
12:18 Megaf_          Zeno`: SN's?
12:18 hisforever      clear
12:19 Megaf_          I'm worried that bug may cause problem saving the map
12:25 Zeno`           ShadowNinja's example in the bug report
12:27 Zeno`           in https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1556
12:27 Zeno`           I don't know what to do about the server shutdown bug; I really can't track it down
12:27 Zeno`           I could revert the commit that causes it I guess
12:27 Zeno`           but that might make the person angry
12:28 Zeno`           on the positive side the server state and map are most certainly saved before the segfault
12:32 Zeno`           I actually don't think I could revert the commit even if I was willing to (without making a huge mess)
12:34 Megaf_          Zeno`: so you tracked down the commit that causes it?
12:35 raffahacks      Hey
12:35 Zeno`           I know what commit causes it, yeah
12:36 Zeno`           I could get rid of the crash by causing a memory leak but that would just hide things
12:37 PenguinDad      eee​w hiding things with memory leaks
12:37 Megaf_          Don't do that Zeno`
12:37 Zeno`           heheh yeah, bad
12:38 Zeno`           which is why I won't do it :P
12:38 Megaf_          we have to find what exactely is causing that
12:38 Megaf_          Zeno`: tell me the commit on pvt please
12:39 Zeno`           It's not secret: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/7616537bc071bc93f8d36c84b94603528be1efb0
12:40 kaeza           Zeno` is a spy! he's leaking info so FM can benefit! you traitor!
12:40 kaeza           also, mornings all
12:40 Megaf_          morning kaeza
12:40 * PenguinDad    does the flamethrower test on Zeno` :D
12:42 Zeno`           lol
12:42 Zeno`           it's in #mintetest-dev log :P
12:42 * proller       spying on pvt too
12:42 Zeno`           I'm sure there are easier ways for proller to get the info hehehe
12:43 Zeno`           anyway I spent some time yesterday trying to work out what was causing the issue and gave up :/
12:43 Zeno`           wait
12:43 Zeno`           proller, you're a spy!
12:44 Zeno`           can I be like Get Smart?
12:44 Zeno`           he is a good spy
12:48 jin_xi          the enemy within ;)
12:49 Megaf_          Zeno`: maybe the problem is here? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/7616537bc071bc93f8d36c84b94603528be1efb0#diff-1dc3934293fad6b8769890134ac51c21R148
12:49 Megaf_          or close to that
12:50 Megaf_          or here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/7616537bc071bc93f8d36c84b94603528be1efb0#diff-9cf8a2c3a462f80cdee5dd7abb29a6b9R37
12:51 Megaf_          oh
12:51 Megaf_          nevermind
12:51 Megaf_          can be in several other places
12:51 Zeno`           maybe, I dunno. The actual issue is in delete oremgr
12:51 Zeno`           I know where it happens, I just dunno why it happens :)
12:51 Megaf_          I think devs should avoid pushing so many things at once
12:52 Megaf_          it's difficult to solve the problem with many things added
12:52 Zeno`           there is obviously a double free/delete somewhere because that's what the crash is caused by
12:52 Zeno`           but where...
12:52 Zeno`           no idea
12:53 Zeno`           I gave up only because I needed a rest heh
12:53 Zeno`           and beer
12:57 Megaf_          heh
12:57 Megaf_          take a day of
12:57 Megaf_          wheres sapier? Its been a while since I last saw him actually active
12:58 Trixar_za       Oo
12:58 Trixar_za       Did somebody say beer?
12:58 Zeno`           yes!
12:58 Zeno`           beer!
12:58 * Megaf_        hides
12:59 Trixar_za       I have a song about beer
13:02 * Trixar_za     is listening to: The Beer Song by Weird Al Yankovich
13:06 * ThatGraemeGuy listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_m6n0dGmWM
13:08 Trixar_za       Oo
13:09 ThatGraemeGuy   yeah
13:09 ThatGraemeGuy   Someone linked me to one of them a while ago and when he explained what it is I was "no way wtf?!"
13:10 ThatGraemeGuy   but actually quite cool
13:11 PenguinDad      ThatGraemeGuy: interesting
13:13 ThatGraemeGuy   the transitions between tracks could be smoother in some instances
13:13 PenguinDad      but not really my style
13:22 ThatGraemeGuy   not enough Taylor Swift? ;-p
13:25 * PenguinDad    looks up Taylor Swift
13:26 PenguinDad      No thanks D:
13:28 ThatGraemeGuy   lol
13:33 Zeno`           PenguinDad, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
13:33 * Zeno`         boogies
13:33 Zeno`           \o>   <o/     \o/
13:34 Zeno`           we've know each other for so long
13:34 Zeno`           we know the game and we're gonna play it!
13:34 exio4           you know the rules, and so do I
13:34 Zeno`           lol
13:35 PenguinDad      Zeno`: that video is blocked in my country :P
13:35 Zeno`           too bad :(
13:35 exio4           where do you live? north korea? the US?
13:36 PenguinDad      exio4: I live in Germany
13:39 Zeno`           I'm sure you can find an alternate link
13:39 Zeno`           that way you can jive with the rest of us
13:39 PenguinDad      Zeno`: already found one :P https://soundcloud.com/omniedm/basscannon-omg
13:39 Zeno`           woohoo!
14:06 PenguinDad      I wonder why https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/mapgen.cpp#L296 is causing the issue :/
14:13 _Esteban        greetings!
14:14 kaeza           o hai
14:15 _Esteban        I passed by to ask: what are the textures that got changed in default game? I want to update my cel shaded texture pack and I want to know what textures I can reuse :P
14:16 kaeza           here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commits/master
14:17 _Esteban        thanks!
14:18 _Esteban        cya
14:28 Zeno`           PenguinDad, elementary my dear Watson
14:30 Zeno`           But I don't know the answer
14:33 PenguinDad      This the only evidence I found Mister Holmes :P http://pastie.org/pastes/9719128/text
14:34 PenguinDad      + is
14:44 Zeno`           PenguinDad, it's being freed by the biomemgr destructor somehow
14:46 Zeno`           but not all of them
14:46 Zeno`           just some of them :/
14:46 Zeno`           this is crazy
14:46 Zeno`           could it be because of emerge threads?
14:49 PenguinDad      RealBadAngel: Why does my hand glow in the dark? http://a.pomf.se/iasxfi.png
14:56 Salbei          hi
14:57 Salbei          what is the problem with the nuber 7 in minetest?
14:57 Zeno`           I give up (again)
14:57 sfan5           Salbei: do you use linux
14:58 Salbei          yes
15:00 Salbei          i have a grieffer  player in my word called 123456789
15:00 Salbei          i can't ban him!
15:02 catninja        OldCoder: please tell when you put up your version of moontest
15:03 kilbith         Salbei : change your keyboard layout to US or UK, and for type 7
15:03 kilbith         -and
15:05 sfan5           Salbei: this is a known problem, use the number keys above the main part of the keyboard
15:06 kilbith         a known problem for french keyboard
15:10 Salbei          ok
15:11 Salbei          it will be solved or never?
15:41 _Esteban        Found a new spam topic -.- :https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10580
15:41 _Esteban        Is there another way to communicate to mods bout these?
15:50 _Esteban        well cya later @everyone
16:45 Calinou         VanessaE, where is your automatic restart script for server?
16:45 VanessaE        http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/Server-scripts/minetestserver-creative.sh
16:45 VanessaE        and others in that dir
16:46 Calinou         while true too? :(
16:46 Calinou         doesn't that eat a lot of CPU
16:46 VanessaE        not if there's a sleep in there
16:49 Salbei          [1~.
16:49 VanessaE        !#$%@%$
16:49 VanessaE        :P
17:05 Zeno`           CPU?
17:05 VanessaE        fried.
17:05 VanessaE        :P
17:05 Zeno`           it will only eat CPU while it's trying to reconnect though won't it?
17:05 exio4           well
17:05 exio4           just bought an UPS >.<
17:06 exio4           bought doesn't sound that well-spelled
17:06 Zeno`           I bought an helicopter
17:06 deezl           well hop the pond then, and come visit :D
17:07 Zeno`           I can't afford fuel
17:07 deezl           ok, I'll swim over, jump in, then it will be deezl powered
17:07 exio4           now I'll wait for it
17:07 Zeno`           lol
17:07 exio4           and use my FX and profit
17:07 PenguinDad      deezl powered xD
17:07 exio4           wat
17:08 exio4           I don't get it :<
17:08 deezl           play on words: deezl prounounced like diesel
17:08 Zeno`           it's just a pity that I pronounce diesel as dye sell
17:09 deezl           o,O
17:09 Zeno`           lol, j/k :p
17:09 exio4           oh well
17:09 VanessaE        well however you pronounce it, it's obsolete :)
17:09 deezl           never know, since the word "no" seems to have multiple syllables when you Aussie's say it :D
17:09 exio4           diesel ftw
17:10 deezl           which, I love by the way
17:10 VanessaE        electric vehicles ftw :)
17:11 deezl           \o/
17:11 VanessaE        you can always put a huge audio system under the bonnet if you need the sound of a big V8 or something :P
17:11 exio4           electric vehicles are nice, but there isn't any cheap one that people can buy
17:12 * PenguinDad    just had a damn silly idea
17:12 VanessaE        exio4: there are inexpensive ones, but they don't have a very long range, 200 km or less
17:12 exio4           any electric vehicle is for rich or higher
17:12 deezl           VanessaE said bonnet...hehe
17:12 deezl           and stuff your groceries in the boot
17:12 VanessaE        deezl: an electric vehicle doesn't properly have a hood or trunk, it has a bonnet and a boot
17:12 Zeno`           I have taken the engine out of my car and replace it with a thousand mice on a treadmill
17:13 VanessaE        with no engine, how can it have a "hood"?
17:13 VanessaE        :)
17:13 deezl           1000mp!
17:13 Zeno`           it's very efficient... I can't go anywhere
17:13 exio4           horsepower is outdated
17:13 exio4           micepower is the future
17:13 Zeno`           lol
17:13 Zeno`           yeah a 1000mp engine
17:13 PenguinDad      Ponypower is the future :P
17:14 deezl           I just put a harness on my kids when I run outta petrol
17:14 VanessaE        PenguinDad: I suddenly have an image in my head of rainbow dash propelling a car.
17:14 Zeno`           1000mp == about 0.00000000001pp engine
17:14 deezl           then i stand on the hood and yell "mush!"
17:14 exio4           I am a poor again grr
17:14 PenguinDad      lol
17:14 exio4           ;_;
17:15 deezl           poor again?
17:15 exio4           got scholarship, and now wasting it in computer stuff
17:15 deezl           just give up money, then you don't have to be disappointed when you run out of it
17:15 deezl           'waste'???
17:15 kaeza           with the gas prices around here, the price of an EV is a bargain
17:15 deezl           I'd call it a wise investment
17:15 kaeza           yay talking to scrollback
17:16 deezl           lol, hello kaeza
17:16 kaeza           o/
17:16 exio4           deezl: wasted, because it could be well spent in lots of pizza
17:16 exio4           hai kaeza
17:16 * kaeza         hugs exio4
17:16 VanessaE        greetz, kaeza
17:16 * exio4         hugs back :3
17:16 deezl           but pizza is temporary, your computer will love you back if you treat it nice
17:16 exio4           I already have my FX runnin'
17:17 * deezl         thinks he just shared too much
17:17 exio4           I don't really know if I should buy a cheap case, or literally spend most of my $$ in a decent case :/
17:17 VanessaE        a cheap case and lots of fans
17:17 VanessaE        but better to use that money for what it was intended.
17:17 deezl           cheap case and a dremel FTW
17:18 VanessaE        + a dremel
17:18 VanessaE        always buy a dremel.
17:18 exio4           well
17:18 exio4           now I need to google what a dremel is :D
17:18 deezl           like a rotozip but not as heavy duty
17:18 VanessaE        a hand-held rotary drilling/cutting/grinding tool
17:19 exio4           ah
17:19 deezl           for poking holes, scribing, and other modding techniques
17:19 VanessaE        also does a few other related jobs like polishing
17:19 exio4           I don't really need any tool
17:19 exio4           I can already use most of father's workplace
17:19 VanessaE        no hacker's toolbox is complete without one.
17:19 deezl           a hammer works nicely too
17:20 deezl           hammer is my favorite tool for "light" adjustments
17:20 VanessaE        mine is some off-brand, I forget what
17:20 VanessaE        it works well enough (I was cheap)
17:21 exio4           well, the pneumatic(?) multi-use tool at my father's workplace works well enough
17:22 deezl           exio4, yes air tools are nice
17:23 VanessaE        electric is better
17:23 VanessaE        you don't need a compressor :)
17:23 VanessaE        and you can do the work in the house if the workshop is too cold
17:23 exio4           we have a smaller compressor we can use in-house too
17:23 exio4           but if it is too cold then well, I am not doing anything
17:24 exio4           also, too cold here is 5C / ~45F
17:24 exio4           and we're getting summer now, so it is going to be too _warm_ >_<
17:24 deezl           it's ~30F here right now
17:24 exio4           I am sure we'll be getting 40C / 104F soon(tm)
17:25 exio4           I am learning to use F!
17:25 deezl           ~0C
17:25 exio4           C ftw
17:32 exio4           also, not going to spend it in stuff for my uni now, based on the fact that I got 70% of the money in the last months of the year..
17:34 Jordach         quassel
17:34 Jordach         wat
17:34 Jordach         there
17:34 Jordach         where were my 120mb logs
17:35 Calinou         <VanessaE> always buy a dremel.
17:35 Calinou         lol, dremel fans
17:35 Calinou         they're like Arch Linux users
17:35 Calinou         they'll tell you
17:36 exio4           what is wrong with a multi-use tool
17:38 deezl           hehe
17:38 deezl           <-------Arch Linux fan
17:40 exio4           archlinux is nice for testing, not for use, sadly
17:42 deezl           um, I use Arch everydasy
17:42 deezl           everyday
17:42 deezl           I find it to be quite stable and elegant
17:43 exio4           it is stable as long as you spend two hours per day in fixing everything that breaks
17:43 deezl           I have yet to have anything break
17:44 deezl           only occasionally with updates, but you just read the Arch newsfeed, and they usually have a fix for it pretty quick
17:44 exio4           I had a lot of problems with my laptop
17:44 deezl           probably driver issues
17:44 exio4           yeah
17:44 exio4           the problem is that they kept updating everything and nothing worked
17:45 deezl           for that, you look in the AUR
17:45 deezl           well, they keep the kernel pretty bleeding edge
17:45 exio4           I had to install the kernel by myself, use a special framebuffer X11 driver, and etc for being able to play anything more than tetris
17:45 deezl           I'm at 3.17.2 right now
17:45 deezl           but am running on fairly modern hardware
17:46 exio4           it was an intel atom n270, a netbook, like 2 years and half ago, tried it again in the same laptop and only half the problems where fixed
17:47 exio4           but with gentoo and debian and all versions the same it worked, no idea the f*ck happened
17:47 deezl           I really like Bodhi Linux on a netbook
17:47 Xack            wow hi
17:47 exio4           I liked my gentoo setup
17:47 exio4           it took its time, but damn guy, it worked so nicely
17:48 deezl           I've never run Gentoo, I keep meaning to give it a go in a VM
17:48 exio4           I haven't played with "distros" for more than a yar though
17:48 exio4           year*
17:49 exio4           the only "game" was switching a nearly-debian-wheezy in 32bit to debian sid 64bit early this year
17:49 deezl           at one time I was booting like 6 different distros on the same machine till I settled on Arch
17:49 exio4           I never had more than two distros at the same time installed, I think
17:49 exio4           (in real hardware)
17:49 exio4           I always had a thing with debian though
17:50 deezl           yeah, it was a little tricky :D
17:50 exio4           it is an ugly beast, but well, maybe because it was one of my first distros :P
17:50 exio4           how long have you been using linux deezl? I am pretty new
17:50 deezl           uh, since about Ubuntu 10.10 I think
17:51 exio4           I have been using it for at least 6 years, I think
17:51 exio4           probably 7 though
17:51 exio4           I don't remember the exact month
17:51 deezl           I'm no expert at it, but i am fairly comfortable with it, and I do well researching help topics in forums.
17:52 deezl           I wouldn't use Windows at all if it wasn't for work
17:52 Calinou         celeberating 5 years here
17:52 exio4           I never installed Windows on my desktop!
17:53 deezl           no Win on my desktop either :D
17:53 exio4           only in a VM, used it for debugging some stuff I had to develop for windows
17:53 exio4           I would really like to use coreboot, but sadly, my mobo isn't supported and ASUS isn't very opensource friendly
17:53 exio4           but it was the best mobo I could get at that moment
17:54 deezl           yeah, ASUS mobo here too
17:54 exio4           which one? :P
17:54 exio4           just curious
17:55 deezl           M5A78L-M LX Plus
17:55 exio4           ah, well
17:55 exio4           m5a99x evo here
17:55 deezl           not bad
17:55 deezl           mine was only $60 US
17:56 exio4           mine was $1050 ARS a year ago, when the USD was at 6ARS
17:56 exio4           between 150 and 175 USD
17:57 exio4           tech is expensive here
17:57 deezl           but I slapped an FX Black 6-Core on it with 8GB Ram and a decent graphics card
17:57 exio4           and I want to buy stuff that is already expensive outside
17:57 exio4           deezl: 6100 or 6300?
17:58 exio4           I have a 6100 on mine, with 14GB of ram atm
17:59 exio4           a sucky GT610 though
17:59 exio4           I don't really use my graphics
17:59 deezl           that's pretty good
17:59 exio4           I am wasting my fast ram module though
18:00 exio4           it is 4gb hyperx@1600MHz, but then 10gb (8+2) of 1333mhz modules :/
18:01 exio4           I didn't have money for buying a 1600mhz 8gb module, and I really needed more ram, so I went for the slow one
18:01 exio4           oh well, yours has an integrated gpu, if I had an integrated gpu I wouldn't have bought the GT610 :P
18:02 exio4           I don't really know what to buy with the remaining 1800 ARS
18:03 exio4           there aren't lovely cases for that price, I can't buy more than 16gb of ram, but I could buy a 2*1tb combo, or a 2tb black, but then I would have it raid-less
18:03 exio4           and having too much data without raid? nope
18:04 deezl           sheesh!
18:05 deezl           that's more than I need for my machine
18:05 exio4           atm I have two harddisks running in RAID 1
18:05 exio4           1tb * 2
18:05 deezl           I don't do any sw dev, or graphics rendering or anything
18:07 exio4           I don't really do a lot of sw dev
18:07 deezl           I have 500GB HDD in the machine and an external 1TB I use for backups and storage
18:07 exio4           I already have my terabyte filled with lots of data
18:07 deezl           wow
18:07 exio4           it is one year of usage
18:08 exio4           1tb per year is actually pretty low
18:08 deezl           pfff
18:08 deezl           low for what/
18:08 deezl           what takes up so much room?
18:09 exio4           well, it is kinda unfair, but I have like 400gb of music and 200gb of movies
18:09 deezl           my movies/music is about 150GB
18:09 exio4           so I actually only used 300gb out of random data
18:10 deezl           but I haven't put everything I have in digital form either
18:10 exio4           well, I only reinstalled recently
18:11 exio4           I still haven't cleaned the mess of files I have :/
18:11 exio4           a tag-based filesystem is what I need, but I only have used tags for specific things
18:13 deezl           tag-based?
18:14 exio4           er, like, you tag files
18:14 exio4           then you search by tags
18:14 deezl           I guess I don't do much downloading anymore. I use streaming services for most of my media
18:15 deezl           used to keep tons of warez around when I was on Windows, but since I've moved to Linux all those exe's are pretty useless
18:15 exio4           I like to download stuff mostly for the reason that I can download higher-definition stuff than if I only streamed
18:16 deezl           I guess that's true to a point.
18:17 exio4           I don't live in a place with decent network speeds remember
18:17 exio4           :P
18:18 deezl           ah. mine is only /just/ decent. low end DSL, hoping to move to cable soon
18:18 exio4           what speed?
18:19 deezl           on average I get about 365K down
18:19 exio4           that is good
18:20 deezl           it's ok
18:20 exio4           two-three times my download
18:20 deezl           not /good/
18:20 exio4           well, based on US' numbers, anything under 50mb isn't good
18:20 exio4           :P
18:20 deezl           true
18:21 deezl           that's mostly due to wide-spread fibreoptic infrastructure
18:24 deezl           but I live in a rural area, we don't have fiber here yet
18:24 exio4           rural area atm, and 0.25mbps
18:24 sfan5           whats a 'rural area'?
18:24 deezl           far from a city
18:25 PenguinDad      exio4: 0.25mpbs is still faster than my connection :(
18:25 sfan5           deezl: whats a 'city'?
18:25 deezl           lol...
18:26 exio4           a place with houses and people, you know, but not just 40 people
18:26 deezl           what country are you in sfan5?
18:26 sfan5           deezl: germany
18:26 deezl           Berlin is a city
18:26 sfan5           I'm aware
18:26 sfan5           but what is a city and what isn't?
18:27 deezl           well, there are about 3 markets where I live and they are all tiny
18:27 deezl           that = "not a city"
18:27 deezl           there is mostly farms here
18:27 PenguinDad      "there is no agreement on how a city is distinguished from a town within general English language meanings" :(
18:28 sfan5           deezl: wikipedia says I like in a 'city'
18:28 ElectronLibre   !c "that" ~= "city"
18:28 MinetestBot     SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
18:28 * sfan5         haz 12/1 (DL/UL in MBit/s)
18:28 ElectronLibre   Wrong syntax..
18:28 ElectronLibre   !c "that" != "city"
18:28 MinetestBot     True
18:28 ElectronLibre   Here is the final answer :D.
18:29 PenguinDad      wikipedia says I live in a town :(
18:35 exio4           PenguinDad: where do you live?
18:42 * ElectronLibre is absolutly sure he lives in a town, a very tiny town..
18:42 exio4           so do I
18:43 Jordach         m'lady https://cdn.mediacru.sh/e1tg0s3iV_Vf.png
18:43 * Jordach       tips fedora
18:44 Aragas          nah
18:45 Aragas          http://www.speedtest.net/result/3909686737.png
18:45 exio4           damn
18:45 ElectronLibre   73 Mbs/s!! x_x
18:45 exio4           fxs are expensive
18:46 exio4           Aragas: gimme a few mbits!
18:46 luizrpgluiz     hi
18:46 deezl           dat DL speed!
18:46 Aragas          hehehe
18:47 PenguinDad      Aragas: nice upload speed
18:47 exio4           ^ the nice part is the upload speed
18:47 Calinou         3 Mb/s down, 0.3 Mb/s up here
18:47 Aragas          i heard that we have here 300 mb/s channels
18:47 Aragas          but i dunno how to fill them
18:47 * deezl         is green with envy
18:47 mitrom          Hi
18:48 Aragas          i pay ~13 dollars per month >:D
18:48 exio4           wat
18:48 exio4           13 USD for that network?
18:48 exio4           I hate you
18:48 ElectronLibre   Hello luizrpgluiz.. I only have 600Kb/s it's horrible to see that... x_x
18:48 exio4           only
18:48 exio4           ¬¬
18:49 Aragas          We don't have here 2 dominant networks like in USA
18:49 sfan5           exio4: if you can convine 40 percent of your city to get fibre you can get 100/100 (DL/UL MBit/s) for about 62 dollars / month
18:49 PenguinDad      !c 400 / (77.3 / 8)
18:49 MinetestBot     41.39715394566624
18:49 sfan5           (at least where I live)
18:50 PenguinDad      uhhh
18:50 luizrpgluiz     XD
18:50 Calinou         could have 500 Mb/s if ISP wasn't lazy
18:51 * sfan5         throws why-would-your-ISP-do-that? at Calinou
18:51 sfan5           it gets them nothing
18:51 sfan5           unless they charge more
18:51 Aragas          the only way to fill those channels - porn, like blu-ray
18:52 exio4           Aragas: why would anyone want more than 1mbps if it wasn't for porn?
18:52 sfan5           Aragas: or torrents
18:52 exio4           torrents for porns
18:52 Calinou         sfan5, they would charge a bit more
18:52 sfan5           exio4: for like.. downloading updates faster
18:52 Calinou         two ISPs here are promising fiber: one for 11 months, another for 8 months
18:52 PenguinDad      torrents for non porn anime :P
18:52 Calinou         they already built some infrastructure, which is waiting to be used
18:53 Aragas          games those days are reallu huge, like ~30-40 gb
18:53 Calinou         >2014 >AAA games
18:53 Aragas          titanfall and other shi~
18:53 * sfan5         meows at Aragas
18:53 Calinou         Titanfall is shit indeed
18:53 Aragas          steam isn't givin' me more than 7-9 mb/s
18:54 Calinou         torrents are not necessarily faster
18:54 Calinou         you can't go faster than your connection
18:54 Aragas          oh, wai~. maube megabytes here, not bits
18:54 sfan5           <Calinou> you can't go faster than your connection
18:54 exio4           you can top it
18:54 sfan5           no shit
18:54 Calinou         Steam will easily top your connection
18:54 Calinou         they can send like 30 MB/s
18:54 sfan5           they can send more
18:55 sfan5           otherwise 2 people downloading would overload their servers
18:55 Aragas          yup
18:55 Aragas          and this suck
18:55 Aragas          at lest for me :DDD
18:55 Aragas          least*
18:55 Calinou         sfan5, some people are reporting they download at 62 MB/s
18:56 Aragas          maybe usa or europe?
18:56 Zephlon         Mb =/= MB
18:56 Krock           hi
18:56 Calinou         I'm talking in MB, Zephlon
18:56 Krock           Haaaands across the water - Heaaaads across the sky.
18:57 Zephlon         In that case, wow that's fast!
18:58 sfan5           Aragas: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3909717990.png look. (note: the ISP and country thing is actually wrong, my vps is in russia)
18:59 Krock           LI = Lithauen?
18:59 sfan5           LI ist Lichtenstein
18:59 sfan5           (oder wie auch immer man das schreibt)
18:59 luizrpgluiz     Calinou:Are you a developer?
18:59 Krock           FL ist Liechtenstein
18:59 sfan5           Krock: sure?
18:59 Aragas          such speed with vpn?!
18:59 sfan5           Aragas: vps*
19:00 Aragas          ah
19:00 sfan5           Krock: my geoip database says
19:00 sfan5           Liechtenstein
19:00 Krock           sfan5, http://www.iten-online.ch/kennzeichen/Liechtenstein/images/FL_normal02.jpg mhm okay. I might be wrong in this case
19:01 Krock           cuz only car signs have those letters
19:01 sfan5           LT might be Litauen
19:01 Krock           ah okay
19:02 Krock           yes, the TLD of Liechtnstein is actually LI
19:03 sfan5           Aragas: I could probably use it as a vpn
19:03 Calinou         luizrpgluiz, no
19:04 Aragas          server is in russia, correct?
19:04 sfan5           yes
19:04 Calinou         sfan5, Lichtenstein VPS, why?
19:04 Calinou         legal reasons?
19:04 * Calinou       rolls eyes
19:04 sfan5           Calinou: russia
19:04 Aragas          than it is useless
19:04 Calinou         ah
19:04 Calinou         French president is co-prince of Andorra
19:04 Calinou         (-:
19:05 sfan5           Calinou: the geoip db has outdated records and you can't really explain the last hope before LI being RU
19:05 Aragas          we have this china-like firewall, so any site or ip can be blocked anytime
19:06 sfan5           it's not as worse as in china
19:06 exio4           Aragas: can you watch porn legally?
19:06 sfan5           exio4: I'm pretty sure porn isn't illegal in russia (yet)
19:06 Aragas          but still, my ass is really hurting because of this
19:07 Calinou         channel is family-friendly
19:07 exio4           watching porn legal = good country
19:07 Aragas          Yep, we like porn
19:07 sfan5           :P
19:07 Aragas          but only traditional and lesbian :DDDD
19:07 Trixar_za       Oo
19:07 exio4           legit
19:07 Trixar_za       Well dammit - now I've thought up voxel porn. Thanks for that.
19:08 Calinou         take it elsewhere
19:08 Aragas          damn, voxel porn
19:08 exio4           elsewhere? lets move it to china
19:08 sfan5           Calinou: the channel rules don't talk about family friendly things
19:08 Aragas          maybe north korea?
19:09 Calinou         use common sense, many young people are present
19:09 deezl           I don't think the communist party in either of those countries is fond of such material
19:09 sfan5           Nk might be the best place to host anything
19:09 sfan5           NK*
19:09 sfan5           ;)
19:09 exio4           sure sure
19:09 Trixar_za       Seriously
19:09 Trixar_za       It's box shaped things
19:09 exio4           _things_
19:09 exio4           I mean, hi
19:10 Trixar_za       Hi exio4
19:10 Trixar_za       And I just google imaged it and it's a safe word
19:10 Trixar_za       well, phrase
19:10 Trixar_za       lol
19:10 Trixar_za       Until it gets Rule 34'd
19:11 exio4           :F alfajores
19:11 sfan5           Aragas: I mainly use it for torrents: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/il-sH8LAfXvw.png
19:11 Calinou         what's that interface?
19:11 Aragas          ohohohoh
19:11 sfan5           Calinou: transmission
19:11 sfan5           (web interface)
19:11 Calinou         OK
19:11 sfan5           the gtk client is also very pretty
19:11 Aragas          wait a minute, i'll shom statics from my provoder directly
19:12 mitrom          Hi again
19:12 Calinou         but doesn't exist on Windows officially… :/
19:12 Calinou         so I use qBittorrent, which works everywhere
19:12 Calinou         (Qt)
19:12 Calinou         also has Web interface if needed
19:12 mitrom          Freenode never gives me the closest server :c
19:13 Aragas          322 days, 1.8 TB downloaded, 184 GB seeded. I'm not good at seeding, lol
19:14 sfan5           ugh
19:14 exio4           1.8tb in 322 days?
19:14 sfan5           Calinou: qbittorrent is ugly
19:14 exio4           you waste your network!
19:14 Aragas          yep, i lied about blu-ray pons :DDD
19:16 Calinou         looks good here
19:16 Calinou         0,19 ratio on Trisquel ISO
19:16 Calinou         that's my best one
19:16 Calinou         (1,4 GB size)
19:16 sfan5           pff
19:16 Calinou         that one is requested often
19:17 exio4           my best ratio is like 0.8 out of a 25gb tv serie
19:17 sfan5           Calinou: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/RgfrTjJmCykL.png << raspi at home stats (running time is broken)
19:17 Calinou         I don't run a PC 24/7
19:17 Calinou         309127 days of running?
19:18 sfan5           (running time is broken)
19:18 exio4           46 days of uptime here
19:18 Calinou         anyway, there is not that much point to me seeding
19:18 Calinou         some people have MB/s of upload, there are also lots of Web sources
19:18 sfan5           MB/s of upload pff
19:18 Calinou         when I seed, it's 25 KB/s at most
19:18 Calinou         and 430 KB/s of down
19:18 mitrom          sfan5, 846 years eh?
19:18 sfan5           also never seen a web src
19:19 sfan5           Calinou: I seed 75 KB/s
19:19 Aragas          when i seed, it's 0 b/s at most, lol
19:19 sfan5           I have about 100 kb/s of upload
19:19 sfan5           mitrom: yep
19:19 Calinou         I'd be happy if I could do that
19:19 mitrom          erm
19:19 mitrom          I call fake
19:19 exio4           he said running time was broken
19:19 mitrom          Or 44 using the other figure
19:19 exio4           and all the people went like
19:19 exio4           OMG SO MANY DAYS!
19:19 Calinou         mitrom, hello 2 years old NickServ account! :p
19:19 Calinou         2 hours*
19:19 sfan5           exio4: ikr
19:19 mitrom          Ye
19:19 mitrom          I am a noobie
19:20 exio4           I am a young shibe
19:20 exio4           only 3 years and 44 weeks
19:22 catninja        then I have a friend for you http://mecatninja.imgur.com/all/
19:23 catninja        http://i.imgur.com/mQ26ZnJ.jpg I mean
19:23 mitrom          Timing cached reads:   22356 MB in  2.00 seconds = 11188.47 MB/sec
19:23 mitrom          damn
19:24 sfan5           Calinou: transmission way prettier: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Rxo0HgjWOvyY.png
19:26 Jordach         catninja, https://mediacru.sh pls
19:26 Calinou         I like the display, but it is less suitable for large numbers of torrents
19:28 Calinou         here, how it looks (legal torrents for once): https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Mznkgby2bsth.png
19:28 Calinou         with extended info
19:28 sfan5           you can have that too
19:28 Calinou         changed the columns around
19:28 mitrom          Timing cached reads:     2 MB in  2.48 seconds = 825.24 kB/sec
19:29 mitrom          Just look at the speed
19:29 Calinou         very slow
19:29 mitrom          Indeed
19:30 mitrom          For a new vps
19:30 mitrom          :c
19:30 sfan5           Calinou: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_tYnxpdKnOqM.png
19:30 OldCoder        catninja very well; but I think I'd like to merge some of paramat's stuff first. This might become Worldtest or Solartest
19:30 Aragas          oh, fullmetal
19:31 mitrom          Calinou, Think I should write to the host about this?
19:31 mitrom          400kb ~ 4000MB
19:31 Calinou         no idea
19:31 mitrom          But the buffered disk reads are awful
19:31 sfan5           Aragas: yeah, seen it?
19:31 Aragas          yea, seen and readed
19:32 Aragas          I like anime, but not lika all thosebig fans
19:32 sfan5           Aragas: brotherhood or the original one?
19:32 Calinou         Timing cached reads:   26006 MB in  2.00 seconds = 13015.85 MB/sec
19:32 Calinou         Timing buffered disk reads: 1548 MB in  3.00 seconds = 515.87 MB/sec
19:32 Aragas          both
19:32 catninja        OldCoder: Sorry for being unpatient, my server was just not as fun as yours without the extensions (but less easily agitated 12yrolds)
19:32 mitrom          Calinou, What's that?
19:33 mitrom          Yeah i get about those on my amazon and digitalocean vpses
19:33 Trixar_za       That reminds me. Apparently the Anime producers of Naruto will continue beyond the Manga's end. Basically, it's not done by far. Sorry OldCoder.
19:33 mitrom          hdparm -Tt ?
19:34 sfan5           Aragas: I've seen the original one and I'm currently watching episodes of brotherhood if I have some free time (and I feel like it)
19:35 Aragas          i envy u, have not time at all
19:35 Calinou         yes, mitrom
19:35 OldCoder        catninja, it is fine. We will release the current version when I have time to surface.
19:35 mitrom          That an ssd?
19:35 OldCoder        It's been pretty interesting lately
19:36 OldCoder        Trixar_za, I don't mind the existence of the series; I simply feel that it is past time for Sasuke to eradicate Hidden Leaf
19:36 sfan5           Aragas: what are you doing that you're not having time?
19:36 Aragas          study, first course
19:37 Calinou         mitrom, yes
19:37 mitrom          ok good
19:37 mitrom          On a vps?
19:37 sfan5           Aragas: my main activity is school
19:37 Calinou         no, a desktop
19:38 * mitrom        is jeliss
19:38 sfan5           Aragas: studying takes up a whole lot more of time, right?
19:38 _Esteban        deviantart + aseprite + Minetest =  https://cdn.mediacru.sh/qdlMYcTT45jH.png
19:38 sfan5           wat
19:39 _Esteban        Im not sure either
19:39 Aragas          yea, but the worst thing is that my university isn't in top, but still, no time for coding like a month or so
19:39 PenguinDad      _Esteban: 2fast4u
19:39 _Esteban        xD
19:40 * mitrom        just had an idea
19:40 mitrom          time sudo reboot
19:40 * sfan5         is a cat
19:40 Calinou         how would that work
19:40 Calinou         (that is, using the “time” command)
19:41 sfan5           Calinou: 'reboot' is async
19:41 sfan5           actually
19:41 sfan5           I'm not sure
19:41 sfan5           but 'shutdown -r now' or 'shutdown now' are async
19:45 mitrom          Let's try it
19:45 Sokomine        hi
19:45 * Sokomine      puts some milk in front of sfan5
19:46 * sfan5         noms the milk
19:46 * EvergreenTree drinks some bacon
19:47 Sokomine        since about yesterday, my version of mt...exits with a lot of worriesome error messages whenever i close a local game
19:48 Sokomine        many lines look like this: 7f2a18ef0000-7f2a18ef1000 rw-s 00000000 00:04 5536306                    /drm mm object (deleted)
19:49 Krock           Sokomine, something with "free()"? there's already an error report
19:49 VanessaE        Sokomine: already reported.
19:49 Sokomine        the rest...looks as if it's either a directory listing or a list of processes
19:49 Sokomine        VanessaE: ah. good. hope it can be solved
19:50 Sokomine        it is worriesome to get such output. at least it doesn't seem to happen when using servers
19:50 Jordach         EvergreenTree, mew
19:50 PenguinDad      Bacon :3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLaTlg8QukE
19:51 Sokomine        and i hope sfan5's save-to-localmap-patch gets merged eventually. that code just now helped me to recover part of a building lost on a server a certain jordach ran for a short while :-)
19:51 Jordach         Sokomine, stored in a loving VMWare Disk
19:51 Jordach         it's not lost :3
19:51 Sokomine        ah :-) then it's good. i'm glad i have a local copy anyway :-)
19:51 Jordach         i just haven't started it in a while
19:52 Sokomine        though it ended in rebuilding the house. the materials are just far too diffrent. but taking a look at the existing house and seeing what i did how and how it can be improved helped
19:52 Sokomine        servers are generally a good advertisement for games
19:55 EvergreenTree   PenguinDad: Mmmm, baconstep
19:57 PenguinDad      EvergreenTree: o/
20:01 Calinou         mgv5 is quite cool now
20:01 Calinou         although dirt and sand patches are everywhere :(
20:02 PenguinDad      Calinou: you can disable that
20:02 Jordach         oh boy did i miss being buried in stone
20:03 PenguinDad      just put "mgv5_spflags = noblobs" in your minetest.conf
20:04 Calinou         why isn't that the default
20:04 Calinou         even with biomes, the patches spawn at surface
20:04 PenguinDad      ask paramat
21:00 SvenGek         Question, how fast would one say Minetest is?
21:01 mitrom          SvenGek, 8/10
21:01 CraigyDavi_     SvenGek, depends on your hardware
21:01 mitrom          My minecraft server uses less resources when inactive
21:01 mitrom          But the client is very fast
21:01 SvenGek         My computer sometimes struggles to play YouTube videos
21:01 mitrom          I used to get that
21:01 mitrom          Intel Atom?
21:02 SvenGek         No, it's by Toshiba
21:02 SvenGek         NB505
21:02 mitrom          Got a sticker on the bottom?
21:03 SvenGek         Yeah.
21:04 mitrom          Intel <this> inside.
21:04 mitrom          Wats <this> ?
21:04 mitrom          Pentium, Atom, Xeon
21:04 SvenGek         Oh it is Atom isn't it
21:05 mitrom          Thought so
21:05 mitrom          Windows?
21:05 SvenGek         I don't see Intel written anywhere on it, but online it is called that
21:05 SvenGek         Nah, linux, crunch bang
21:05 mitrom          good
21:05 SvenGek         hehe
21:05 mitrom          Could you paste free -h, lscpu ?
21:06 RealBadAngel    mitrom, mt is evolving and getting features mc doesnt have. and its faster no matter what
21:07 mitrom          RealBadAngel, True
21:07 mitrom          Locked chests for example
21:07 RealBadAngel    thats trivial
21:07 mitrom          MC is still fun, just MT has something it doesn't
21:07 RealBadAngel    MT is free
21:07 mitrom          The API is just great
21:07 mitrom          Oh and that
21:07 SvenGek         lscpu?
21:08 RealBadAngel    if you have some spare time you can make mt better
21:08 mitrom          Yes open a terminal and tye it
21:08 RealBadAngel    thats a major difference
21:08 mitrom          I don't really do any C++ or Lua
21:08 mitrom          I have been known to Lua in the past
21:08 mitrom          But it#s not something i continued with
21:08 mitrom          It is a great language and I'd like to get into it again
21:09 RealBadAngel    but for many its just a new hobby
21:09 RealBadAngel    such like lego blocks in the past
21:09 SvenGek         total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
21:10 SvenGek         Mem:          1.0G       849M       151M         0B       9.1M       267M
21:10 SvenGek         -/+ buffers/cache:       572M       428M
21:10 SvenGek         Swap:         2.0G        36M       1.9G
21:10 RealBadAngel    with mojang or m$ you could just scream for a change
21:10 RealBadAngel    here you can act
21:10 SvenGek         Should've pastebinned it
21:10 mitrom          SvenGek, That's not lscpu but ok, gig of ram
21:10 RealBadAngel    propably at the start you will be checked 100s of times, and should be patient
21:10 RealBadAngel    but still
21:11 mitrom          Paste cat /proc/cpuinfo too
21:11 RealBadAngel    if you are checkin ram usage of the client
21:11 RealBadAngel    it raised lately
21:12 RealBadAngel    in case of dreambuilder game it is like 0,5 gb
21:12 RealBadAngel    i decided to cache meshnodes and nodeboxes
21:12 RealBadAngel    to gain more speed
21:13 RealBadAngel    cache is expensive in terms of eating RAM, but RAM itself is cheap
21:14 mitrom          sure...
21:14 SvenGek         http://pastebin.com/wsPkQpP4
21:14 mitrom          SvenGek, Now cat /proc/cpuinfo again
21:14 mitrom          You forgot to copy it lol
21:15 RealBadAngel    and 4gb system is quite enough to play with dreambuilder and 256x textures
21:15 RealBadAngel    such thing would be just impossible in mc
21:15 mitrom          yup
21:15 mitrom          I once ran mt on 256mb ram
21:15 mitrom          Ran fine, 20 players
21:16 mitrom          `fine`; left like 1MB but it did run
21:16 RealBadAngel    asked for swap, for sure
21:16 mitrom          Yeah and 1GB of swap done
21:17 SvenGek         http://pastebin.com/U6E08Ssn
21:17 SvenGek         I did
21:17 SvenGek         ?
21:17 mitrom          Sure that'll do
21:17 mitrom          Yeah it'll run... playably
21:18 SvenGek         Oh whoops, didn't even noticed I pasted the same thing twice :P
21:18 SvenGek         haha
23:19 hisforeverkid   Hi I did it before but forgot how to get screwdriver to turn vertical?
23:24 VanessaE        pray. :P
23:25 Wayward_One     right-click to mode 3, iirc
23:25 Wayward_One     lol
23:25 VanessaE        shift-punch it into mode 3
23:25 Wayward_One     ^^ that too
23:25 hisforeverkid   ty vanessa
23:47 Megaf           Hi all
23:47 Megaf           I had a question but i forgot it