Time Nick Message 03:20 * H-H-H is trying to run a windows steam game on windows steam via wine lol and its having none of it 03:20 Jordan4ibanez What game? 03:20 H-H-H unturned 03:21 H-H-H wierd seems to be working now 09:34 JamesTait Good morning all; happy World Architecture Day! :-D 11:07 Zeno` time traveller! 11:07 Zeno` it's him, it's him! 13:09 Eatlama Hey quick question. What's the best way to tail the Minetest log file? 13:10 Eatlama I've tried PowerShell's built in tailing ability, but I don't think it works with how the log file gets written to. 13:51 kaeza mornings 13:53 marktraceur kaeza: Aren't they fun 14:16 hisforever Hi I have a person that put huge trees Right up to my property and the trees are going into my Castle I built What can I do about it? 14:19 PilzAdam hisforever, fire 14:19 jin_xi be careful ;) 14:19 shadowzone fire, protection and more fire. 14:21 hisforever Shadowzonw are you an Admin in VanessaW sim? 14:22 catninja hisforever: a moat with lava 14:23 Trixar_za Oo 14:23 Trixar_za That could work 14:23 hisforever ok ty Trixar 14:24 Trixar_za thank catninja 14:34 Trixar_za What's the best way to give users the ability to protect their own build area? 14:35 shadowzone I am a moderator. 14:35 shadowzone Trixar_za: the markers mod made by Sokomine and ShadowNinja's area's mod. 14:37 Trixar_za So you use it with areas? 14:42 shadowzone You could 14:42 shadowzone Well 14:42 shadowzone I don't really know 14:50 Trixar_za Never used it? 14:50 Trixar_za I just downloaded CiaranG's fork and applied crazyginger72 fix to it. 14:51 Trixar_za Seriously - pull request :| 14:51 shadowzone I've used it. 14:52 PenguinDad I think I'm killing youtube's algorithms :/ 14:53 kaeza youkiller 14:55 PenguinDad Get snowscoped Youtube! :D 14:59 Trixar_za ... I have the worst urge to wedgy LazyJ 14:59 marktraceur Trixar_za: Forcing them to swirly you, and then the cycle begins. Where does the violence end!?!?!?! 15:00 Trixar_za No, I just a real hatred of people that use adfly 15:05 Trixar_za And he rants about it. Yeah, there isn't a thing like a free lunch, but it still doesn't excuse the use of adfly. Next you'll make people fill out surveys, right? :| 15:05 Trixar_za le grr 15:06 PenguinDad Trixar_za: do you also hate people who use gadfly? :P 15:06 hisforever Where's a good place to get skins? 15:06 Trixar_za Yes - any ad service that makes you wait :| 15:07 Trixar_za Mostly just because the timer tends to break with some browsers (especially on mobiles) and if you reload, it tends to start over - with MORE time added to the clock. 15:07 PenguinDad Trixar_za: fyi I was talking about this gadfly https://github.com/dcjones/Gadfly.jl 15:08 Trixar_za In that case no 15:10 Trixar_za Also Julia looks interesting 15:32 hisforever VanessaE are you Here? 15:34 VanessaE hi 15:34 hisforever heres the link to new skinhttp://novask.in/461657 15:35 * VanessaE is watching the ESA feed for the Rosetta mission - it's landing on comet 67P soon, less than an hour! 15:36 VanessaE hisforever: ok. also, I see why the other skin didn't work now. looks like it was a 1.8-formatted skin. 15:36 hisforever at your convience Vanessa I can wait 15:36 VanessaE saved the new one. 15:36 VanessaE it'll be available in the morning. 15:37 hisforever ok ty 15:39 * PenguinDad is watching xkcd1446.org 15:40 VanessaE http://new.livestream.com/esa/cometlanding 15:42 zlsa I was going to link it here but PenguinDad already did... 16:07 VanessaE TOUCHDOWN - Philae has landed 16:07 VanessaE Wow 16:16 PenguinDad zomfg we now have the proof that harpoons work on comets! 16:18 VanessaE PenguinDad: well they were screws actually :P 16:18 VanessaE so ESA scientists screwed a comet :P 16:19 PenguinDad s/harpoons/screws/ then 16:20 kaeza hah 16:21 * sfan5 meows at kaeza 16:21 * kaeza purrs 16:21 Trixar_za Oo 16:21 Trixar_za Well, I bet you that will be Rule 34'd in the next hour 16:21 kaeza <_< 16:22 PenguinDad eee​w 16:26 VanessaE Trixar_za: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 16:42 Trixar_za Wait - it took 10 years to do this? 16:42 Trixar_za Would have been really bad if they messed it up :| 16:43 VanessaE Trixar_za: they're reporting having problems getting the anchors to deploy :-/ 16:43 VanessaE I think they are talking about the harpoons 16:43 VanessaE first pictures in situ expected in an hour 16:43 Trixar_za So the comet is playing hard to get? Oo 16:44 VanessaE heh 16:45 sfan5 !op 16:46 sfan5 huh 16:47 Pearl1 Calinou: Hi :) Can I ask you something ? 16:47 sfan5 !op 16:47 Calinou don't ask to ask :( 16:47 Pearl1 calinou: oh shit sory :D 16:47 PenguinDad Pearl1: Please Don't ask to ask :( 16:47 Calinou hi PenguinDad :) 16:47 sfan5 !deop 16:48 PenguinDad Hey Calinou 16:48 proller wow! i'm free! 16:48 Pearl1 I haver big big problems of conversion on an old map. Orientation pbs. DO you know it sometims don't work ? 16:50 sfan5 !deop ShadowBot 16:52 Pearl1 Calinou: I have big big problems of conversion on an old map with moreblocks. Orientation pbs. Do you know it sometimes don't work ?some nodes appears "not defined"/unknow, some other appears horizontal instaed of vertical 16:55 Xack hi Calinou :) 16:56 Calinou proller, free! miner! 16:56 Calinou Pearl1, add “legacy_facedir_simple = true” to chest and furnace definitions, “legacy_wallmounted = true” to torch and ladder definitions 16:57 Calinou in mods/default/nodes.lua 16:57 Calinou oh 16:57 proller * now with stat ;_ 16:57 Calinou I thought you were talking about 0.3-era worlds 16:57 Calinou Pearl1, go to mods/moreblocks/stairsplus, open init.lua with a text editor 16:58 Pearl1 Calinou: lol no. I even don't know what's that :D 16:58 Calinou uncomment the last 3 lines 16:58 Calinou OK, here is the new init.lua 16:58 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/8967540/ 16:58 Calinou replace all the contents of the old init.lua of stairsplus (not More Blocks' root folder, the stairsplus folder inside) with that 16:58 Xack you alright, Calinou? 16:59 Pearl1 calinou: i've dont that. But problems persist 16:59 Pearl1 calinou: *done 16:59 Calinou then there may be nothing to do apart of spamming screwdriver. 16:59 Calinou I had to break backwards compatibility to make the number of nodes less insane 16:59 Pearl1 argh ! :S 16:59 Calinou Sokomine has a tool that makes it easier to mass-rotate nodes 17:00 Pearl1 calinou: sure, i understand. And the game's change etc 17:00 Pearl1 calinou: ok thanks , i will check that 17:01 catninja Catalania should be on the public serverlist now but I cannot see it, would anyone mind checking? (Lord of the test server, not Oldcoders) 17:06 Sokomine Pearl1: yes. it's called "replacer". it can store node type and orientation if you shift+rightclick on a node. any subsequent left-clicks will replace the node you clicked on with the stored pattern and orientation. it's mostly useful for doing things like roofs, long staircases, walls out of panels etc 17:08 Pearl1 Sokomine: great ! thank you. I will dl it 17:17 Amaz Does Minetest still support compiled lua for mods? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=29978#p29978 (I've tried, but it's throwing an error...) 17:18 Trixar_za It's funny how often the name ends with ia when it comes to made up lands 17:18 Trixar_za I even named mine Trixaria 17:19 Calinou Equestria! 17:19 PenguinDad Amaz: it does but only when not using luajit afaik 17:19 Calinou I think LuaJIT is fast enough already 17:19 Calinou if not, make better mods ;) 17:19 Amaz Ah, okay. 17:19 Amaz :P 17:24 Calinou how do I override, using an alias, another node definition? 17:24 catninja OldCoder: I seem to have trouble to connecting to your servers on a network that has ipv6 17:26 ShadowNinja Amaz: Why would you use compiled Lua? 17:27 catninja VanessaE: is your servers down or is it me? 17:27 Amaz Just as an experiment! 17:27 ElectronLibre Calinou: Override with minetest.override_item, or by writing a : before modname in the definition. 17:27 VanessaE catninja: no? 17:27 Amaz (Also, a friend wanted to make a mod, but not allow the source code to go public, not sure why...) 17:27 VanessaE [11-12 12:28] VE-Realtest: cmd status 17:27 VanessaE [11-12 12:28] # Server: version=0.4.10-dev, uptime=39008.8, max_lag=0.343332, clients={} \n # Server: Welcome to VanessaE's Realtest server! Using Minetest 0.4.9. Read the server's rules at http://bit.ly/1aAYdnR 17:27 ShadowNinja Amaz: Alright, the only advantages are that it loads (not runs) slightly faster, and it's harder to read/edit. 17:28 Amaz Yep. 17:29 Calinou I'd like to make just an alias 17:29 ShadowNinja Amaz: We definitely won't accept anything closed-source though because it can't be verified to be non-malicious or sane (well, not easily). 17:29 Trixar_za Oo 17:29 Calinou I need to rename nodes to the same name in order to be able to stack them on inventory 17:29 Calinou interpreted for the win 17:29 Calinou don't use compiled for mods 17:29 Amaz Yeah, I'm not sure why he wanted to do it :P 17:29 Calinou probably just curiosityt 17:29 Calinou -t 17:29 Trixar_za It says it's using MineTest 0.4.9, but the server version is 0.4.10-dev? 17:30 catninja VanessaE: how strange, wonder if it's the same problem as with Oldcoders servers. Could be strange settings on this network, wrong country or my fault. 17:30 ShadowNinja Trixar_za: Minetest* 17:30 exio4 what is kinda sucky is that Lua doesn't have a nice type system 17:30 exio4 and no, I am not talking about a type system like Java's or C++'s 17:31 exio4 I am talking about an ML like type system 17:31 ShadowNinja exio4: Agreed, metatables allow for basic classes, but a more complete system would be nice. 17:31 VanessaE Trixar_za: it's called "vanessa is too lazy to update her motd :P" 17:31 exio4 ShadowNinja: I am not talking about classes 17:31 exio4 but things like algebraic data types would be beautifula 17:31 exio4 but things like algebraic data types would be beautiful 17:31 Amaz He says he wanted to not allow the source code to be readable because it was for an adventure mod, and contains clues for the adventure in it. 17:32 Trixar_za VanessaE: I think I know that well. I think this laziness may be contagious :P 17:32 exio4 ShadowNinja: have you played with Haskell? 17:32 ShadowNinja Amaz: You can still find the clues by checking the bytecode (luac -t or so lists it nicely). 17:32 ShadowNinja exio4: Nope. 17:32 Trixar_za exio4: True, but I learned Lua in like 2 minutes, so it's not a bad language 17:32 exio4 F#? OCaml? SML? Racket? 17:33 Trixar_za In fact I've been messing with mods. First I got addicted to adding them, now I'm modding them. When will the madness end? Oo 17:33 Amaz He says he just wanted to make it harder. Not impossible, but harder. 17:33 exio4 Trixar_za: that is a lie 17:33 ShadowNinja Amaz: Make the mod open-source and store the clues in a mildly-encrypted file (base64'd Lua or something) 17:33 exio4 you didn't learn it in 2 minutes, you _started writing code_ after 2 minutes 17:33 Calinou that's complete bullshit Amaz; code should be readable if we want to 17:33 Calinou encryption is also silly 17:33 Calinou people don't have to read the source 17:34 ShadowNinja exio4: Nope, none. 17:34 Calinou (but also… if you're playing on a server, you don't get any of the source…) 17:34 VanessaE there. motd's adjusted, pending the next restart. 17:34 Amaz The clues are in the code by default. 17:34 Trixar_za exio4: Same difference. Read some example code and then coded in it. To me that counts as learning :P 17:34 Xack hi :) 17:34 exio4 ShadowNinja: check LYAH, it is a beautiful language 17:34 exio4 Trixar_za: learning it is when you can use it for something not trivial 17:34 ElectronLibre Hello Xack. 17:34 exio4 (I would say) 17:34 ShadowNinja Calinou: Yes, but you're at least safe from rogue mods. 17:35 Trixar_za exio4: then I've never written a program in my life. 17:35 exio4 Trixar_za: \o/ 17:35 exio4 that is why we're still learning 17:36 exio4 http://learnyouahaskell.com/ 17:40 Amaz As I said, it wasn't me who wanted to know, but a friend :) 17:47 Calinou evil friend :( 17:47 Amaz Not really :P 17:48 Amaz He just doesn't really get open source... I tried to explain, but he asked me to ask! 17:48 Calinou don't bother then 17:48 Amaz XD 17:49 Calinou this is like dealing with this: http://users.kymp.net/feuer/etcomic/046.jpg 17:49 Amaz XD 17:53 Jordach :o 17:53 Jordach http://brackets.io/ 17:54 Trixar_za A lot of people don't get open source. Some people in open source don't get open source. 17:54 rubenwardy Yes 17:55 rubenwardy so true 17:55 exio4 are we talking about open source or free software? 17:55 PenguinDad Jordach: even with that editor I will still suck at web design :P 17:55 exio4 because they are different, and most people confuse them too 17:57 Trixar_za Open Source. Free Software is something totally different. You can normally sell free software under the terms of the GPL 17:57 Trixar_za That last part tends to piss off a lot of people 17:59 Trixar_za Now that I mention it, license issues tend to come up a lot with Open Source. 18:01 Trixar_za I tend to just use Public Domain, WTFL or CC0 myself since I can't be bothered with it. 18:06 Calinou exio4, terms are not strictly interchangeable but usually can be applied to the same things. 18:06 exio4 Calinou: that is like saying cars and trucks are the same 18:06 Jordach just because they share an engine doesn't mean they can pull the same weight or cargo 18:07 exio4 yeah, they are basically things with engines, and can carry stuff 18:09 Krock Public Domain is not a good license 18:09 rubenwardy Public domain is not a license, technically 18:10 Krock >http://brackets.io/ -> "Windows XP wird von uns leider nicht mehr unterstützt." damn. 18:11 * PenguinDad laughs at Krock 18:11 Calinou where did I say they were t he same, exio4 ? 18:11 exio4 Calinou: "can be applied to the same things" 18:11 Krock but well, Notepad++ does that job too 18:11 exio4 that is like saying a truck can carry what a car does 18:12 Calinou ie. almost all “open source” is free software and almost all free software is open source 18:12 exio4 so what 18:13 exio4 almost all users use windows, and all windows computer have users, so users and windows can be used for roughly the same 18:13 rubenwardy !title https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/ca265e7405952b6031f5 18:13 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Create CMakeLists 18:13 Krock This needs a headdesk: https://forum.minetest.net/posting.php?mode=quote&f=11&p=161574#pr161574 18:14 Krock rubenwardy, <3 18:16 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/8968832/ 18:16 Calinou we love SirCampPown. 18:16 Calinou . . . . . 18:16 PenguinDad Krock: that post by Topywo is 9 months old so don't think that he'll read that post :P 18:16 Krock PenguinDad, you get to the last post after posting a post 18:16 Krock so you can read the posts on top of it 18:17 PenguinDad Krock: I know that... 18:18 rubenwardy Wow 18:18 rubenwardy Calinou: he is sounding like a copyright capitalist fanatic 18:19 Calinou I'm entirely sick of him 18:19 Calinou in before people tell me to fork 18:19 Calinou (he already did) 18:19 rubenwardy The poison of this world; thoughtless people with no effics 18:19 rubenwardy What is it about? 18:19 Calinou he added a non-free music 18:21 rubenwardy To what? 18:21 rubenwardy * ethics 18:24 Calinou to MediaCrush 18:27 stakewinner00 Calinou: wait, anime music is cool :P 18:27 Calinou [off] we already know being an anime fan is quite a poison 18:27 rubenwardy You what? 18:27 Jordach Calinou: incapable of 2 sided conversation on licensing and ethics 18:28 rubenwardy I like some anime, but I don't do hardcore stuff 18:29 rubenwardy Naruto is as far as I go 18:29 Calinou Jordach, why would I? 18:29 Calinou the point is not to serve everyone warm water 18:30 exio4 it makes look like you are a child trolling 18:31 SergioAD Hello 18:32 Trixar_za rubenwardy: I have some bad news for you... 18:33 rubenwardy Fixed https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/ca265e7405952b6031f5 18:34 SergioAD I have recentlly promoted by OldCoder from a simple user to an admin on the Openmine server, and because the mods what we want use I will need to regenerate the land but OldCoder does not want to reset it at all, he want keep the buildings: there is a form to regenerate the land keeping the buildings? 18:34 rubenwardy Yes, Trixar_za? 18:34 Jordach SergioAD, there isn't 18:35 Trixar_za rubenwardy: Naruto - the manga has ended. The Anime will soon follow :( 18:35 SergioAD I see 18:35 rubenwardy Oh yes :( 18:36 twoelk SergioAD: what mod do you need to regenerate for? 18:36 OldCoder SergioAD, that is still under discussion 18:36 exio4 microsoft opensourced .NET 18:36 OldCoder Trixar_za, Did they finally destroy Hidden Leaf Village? 18:37 * OldCoder eagerly awaits news of the end of that place 18:37 SergioAD I see 18:37 exio4 \o/ I am starting to like microsoft 18:37 exio4 they support programming languages research, F#, they opensource .NET 18:37 SergioAD OldCoder not create a ew server with not mobs carbone textures default acces list and your inventory of Lold of the test? there is not a form to regenerate the land with not destroying the buildings 18:37 OldCoder Trixar_za, tell me that Sasuke stopped moping around, got down to business, and scrubbed the ground bare 18:37 Calinou Microsoft still makes a lot of grievious stuff, exio4 18:38 OldCoder SergioAD, I will not allow the buildings to be destroyed. They can be preserved as I explained to you... 18:38 Trixar_za Well, I only read up until he beat his brother 18:38 Jordach exio4, i started like MS once they made OneDrive to support all mobile platforms and Linux is coming 18:38 Trixar_za Which then promptly died. Also apparently he's a live again. It's like a soap opera 18:38 Jordach Word Online also works properly 18:38 SergioAD yes, that is why I suggest make a new empety server 18:38 Trixar_za alive* 18:38 exio4 Calinou: they support research, help to build opensource programming languages (F#, indirectly Haskell), and they are starting to become opensource-friendly 18:38 OldCoder SergioAD, a world can be regenerated from the same seed, then the buildings can be put back 18:38 OldCoder Trixar_za, whats his name was quite dead 18:39 miner59 hi, do you think you can add a exit button to a chest? I tried but it didn't work 18:39 ElectronLibre miner56: What would that button do? 18:39 OldCoder SergioAD, actually, all you and DMan need to do is give me the exact coords of the corners of buildings 18:39 ElectronLibre *miner59 sorry 18:39 Krock miner59, double-click outside 18:39 Calinou that does not make them ethical 18:39 OldCoder SergioAD, I can then put them back myself 18:39 SergioAD OK 18:39 Calinou they are still part of the GAFAM 18:39 Jordach tl;dr Calinou's mindframe is outdated with the new MS 18:39 miner59 for someone with an ipad 18:39 Calinou no it isn't 18:39 Krock miner59, double-tab outside 18:40 Calinou miner59, iOS mobile clients are illegal and not made by us 18:40 Jordach miner59, your client is illegal 18:40 twoelk Trixar_za: why not just add a new spawn some thousands of nodes away? 18:40 Calinou so play on a PC 18:40 OldCoder Calinou, I am a Carbonou user. Continue to make it fast. 18:40 miner59 lol 18:40 Calinou I'm not sure, OldCoder¿ 18:40 exio4 Calinou: they are not perfect gods, but they are walking to the bright side 18:40 SergioAD PS: can help me to get interact? your server is full of violent mobs 18:40 rubenwardy !g GAFAM 18:40 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://www.infos-mobiles.com/amazon/gafam-google-apple-facebook-amazon-microsoft-lequel-le-plus-fortune/62018 18:40 OldCoder Calinou, Not sure of what? 18:40 Calinou they are clearly not 18:40 Calinou rubenwardy, Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft 18:40 OldCoder SergioAD, find "DMan" and meet me; I just need certain coords 18:41 Calinou I have other, funnier names if you wish 18:41 Trixar_za Oh and hi OldCoder. Now we're idling in two places together :P 18:41 miner59 are you joking? I have no idea why they should be illegal 18:41 OldCoder Trixar_za, I am not idling; I am an op here 18:41 rubenwardy Yeah XD 18:41 Jordach miner59, the open source license that minetest is under is not followed with the iOS clients 18:41 SergioAD Ok I will go to meet him 18:42 OldCoder Trixar_za, it is a reprehensible soap opera. Tell me when Sasuke arrives to erase them from history. 18:42 * OldCoder is not a "fan" of those characters 18:42 Trixar_za You'd probably enjoy the guro h manga about it 18:42 OldCoder What is that? 18:43 OldCoder A fan story regarding the destruction of Hidden Leaf? 18:43 miner59 it is a little children, i have a pc 18:43 Xack Calinou: hi? 18:43 Trixar_za More selling characters into slavery and killing them when they've been 'used' up 18:44 * PenguinDad meows at Xack 18:44 Xack hi PenguinDad :) 18:44 rubenwardy I am only on episode 12 of Naruto Shippidon 18:44 * ElectronLibre wonders why a Penguin meows. 18:44 Trixar_za My morbid curiosity kicked in and I went through it. Honestly, it was tame compared to some of the guro stuff I've read and played. (I really should stop listening to my one friend - she has weird tastes...) 18:45 * shadowzone meows anyways 18:45 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: I learned a foreign language :P 18:46 twoelk guro and weird tastes, sounds like breeding nightmares 18:46 Trixar_za and that just gave me another flash back :( 18:47 Calinou another HTML 5 back 18:48 Trixar_za But yeah - she's one of the girls I've never been interested in even though she's hot. She literally scares the crap out of me. 18:48 twoelk thinking of morbid weird taste somehow Tim Burton creeps up on me 18:48 rubenwardy !c 'HTML 5' > 'Flash' 18:48 MinetestBot True 18:48 rubenwardy ^ MinetestBot knows stuff 18:49 * ElectronLibre likes the way Calinou change "flash" by "HTML5" 18:50 SergioAD OldCoder the server seems to be empety 18:51 ElectronLibre This bot is the knowledge incarnated rubenwardy :). 18:51 SergioAD I do not find any player tag anybody responds me... 18:52 twoelk SergioAD: type /status to be sure 18:52 SergioAD OK 18:52 Xack Calinou: :O 18:52 Xack they 18:52 Xack open sourced 18:52 Xack .NET 18:52 rubenwardy Any suggestions for an open source license which avoids a Globeminner situation? 18:53 SergioAD yes I am the only person here 18:53 Trixar_za Globeminner? 18:53 exio4 I already said it here Xack 18:53 PenguinDad eee​w .NET 18:53 Calinou Xack, WE KNOW 18:54 Calinou (write this with wooden planks in your favourite world) 18:54 Calinou rubenwardy, none? 18:54 SergioAD I tried to find life here untill the 1:00 AM and are the 12:54 here on Mexico 18:54 Trixar_za Maybe try a different server? 18:55 Trixar_za I made my server public for like 5 minutes and had it filled to capacity. This was also when I learned what griefing was 18:55 SergioAD Trixar_za: I am one of the admins here and I need to find other admin I think we will need to make the new server, the carbone textures are amazing b 18:56 SergioAD but the HUD and tools quicklist are ugly, for these ones I suggest use the classic ones, for the cursor and inventory I recommend the ones present on the Lord of the test server 18:57 Trixar_za I've been hearing about carbone, but I've never actually seen it 18:57 SergioAD making one from scratch will be harder for the two but will be awesome 18:57 Trixar_za Also I learned the hard way what a memory hog having too many mods and mobs can be 18:58 Calinou it's obvious 18:58 Calinou here's how Carbone looks: https://mediacru.sh/1a6bae839b92 18:59 SergioAD OldCoder also if we do this server I grat you the freedom to add your favorite mods to make better the gaming experience :D 19:00 SergioAD on the zip what I have share to you yesterday has a mony mod for payments :) 19:00 Calinou a pony mod for payments 19:01 SergioAD the ice and magma tools are awesome, I like them 19:02 Xack aw fak u exio4 19:02 OldCoder SergioAD, pony is mony 19:02 SergioAD when I said to my friends about our work OldCoder they became excited becase of the innovations on this server 19:02 OldCoder SergioAD, you don't have any original content. But we will proceed if you will assist. 19:02 Trixar_za Calinou: Doesn't look all that different from base 19:02 OldCoder I need the coords of all of the buildings on Openmine. Just two coords for each building. 19:02 Trixar_za Well, except for the 3D torches 19:02 OldCoder One coord should give the lowest X Y Z corner 19:03 OldCoder Lowest number for each 19:03 SergioAD Ok how can I do that? 19:03 OldCoder One coord should give the highest X Y Z corner 19:03 OldCoder Highest number for each 19:03 OldCoder Just two is all needed; do you understand so far? 19:03 SergioAD yes 19:03 OldCoder Do you know how to display coords? 19:03 OldCoder Press F5 on PC 19:03 SergioAD OK 19:04 OldCoder I will grant you fly. You only need to do this: 19:04 Calinou Trixar_za, play it and see :P 19:04 OldCoder #1 Fly to each building 19:04 SergioAD there are many buildings 19:04 OldCoder SergioAD, poor ones are not important 19:04 Trixar_za Calinou: Address? 19:04 OldCoder #1 Fly to each building 19:04 Calinou there are a few servers with it 19:04 Calinou but you should download it and play singleplayer 19:04 SergioAD Ok 19:04 OldCoder #2 Find lowest X Y Z numbers and highest X Y Z numbers 19:04 Calinou http://servers.minetest.net/ 19:04 Calinou search “carbone” 19:04 OldCoder #3 Report two coords to me 19:05 OldCoder That is all 19:05 OldCoder I will grant you fly and teleport 19:05 OldCoder And noclip 19:05 OldCoder Remember to sink down a little if necessary to get foundation 19:05 SergioAD Ok thanks :) 19:05 OldCoder SergioAD, the rest is up to you 19:06 SergioAD Ok OldCoder 19:06 SergioAD do you know if there are many houser? 19:06 Trixar_za OldCoder: what is silvercrab? 19:07 OldCoder SergioAD, wait briefly 19:07 SergioAD Ok 19:07 OldCoder Trixar_za, Silvercrab is a fork of Redcrab created at the request of oOChainLynxOo 19:07 OldCoder Trixar_za, Redcrab went down for weeks and we know it is dying 19:07 OldCoder Trixar_za, so I traded a photo of Jaykee's kitty cat for the world 19:07 Trixar_za That makes even less sense to me - lol - what's different about it? 19:08 OldCoder I gathered five captures and merged them 19:08 OldCoder Trixar_za, it is apparently one of the largest, oldest, and most venerable worlds 19:08 OldCoder SergioAD, wait a few minutes, IRC is not started for Openmine 19:08 OldCoder Need to debug that 19:08 SergioAD Ok :) 19:10 SergioAD say me when you are ready, I am on the first building, please explain me via IRC - server wich numbers are the couds (I think there are the seed butI do not know :D) 19:10 SergioAD my first admin time 19:11 OldCoder SergioAD, Hi 19:11 OldCoder SergioAD, indicate when here 19:11 SergioAD ??? 19:12 Trixar_za OldCoder: I'm way too new at this to actually know or care about size and age Oo 19:12 OldCoder Trixar_za, you can understand that an online world may be old or new 19:13 OldCoder SergioAD, are you present here in this channel? That is what I ment 19:13 OldCoder meant * 19:14 Trixar_za OldCoder: I take it SergioAD just setup a server with you? That's just the vibe I'm getting :P 19:14 OldCoder No he did not 19:14 OldCoder He has no involvement yet but may 19:14 OldCoder What happened was this 19:15 OldCoder I set up an open creative world to test Calinou Carbone. There was too much griefing. I decided to shut down the world. 19:15 OldCoder But even though it was just a week or two old I received requests to keep it 19:15 OldCoder We therefore have mod and admin positions open 19:15 OldCoder SergioAD came to me asking for a new world 19:16 OldCoder And of course he had zero content 19:16 OldCoder Nothing original 19:16 OldCoder For 2.5 years it is usually "give me an empty world it will be cool" 19:16 OldCoder Nobody wants to simply build on an existing world 19:16 OldCoder They want little empty worlds of their own 19:17 OldCoder Surely it makes more sense to have 100s of little empty worlds than a few large and busy ones 19:17 OldCoder That is the reasoning 19:17 OldCoder D: 19:17 Trixar_za Speaking of which - I found mods that can generate whole villages - it's weird (and buggy - but mostly weird) 19:17 OldCoder I told SergioAD he could have admin on that world 19:17 OldCoder But he wants particular ores 19:17 OldCoder So I need to regenerate 19:17 OldCoder If he comes back explain that I waited but he did not come 19:17 OldCoder I need to rest now 19:18 Trixar_za OldCoder: If I'm still here, sure. 19:18 OldCoder I don't know the purposes of those villages 19:18 OldCoder Sokomine mod right? 19:18 SergioAD I am on the fist buildig, advice me on the game when you get the IRC chanel communications open to the server, I will need indications of where is exactlly the courds :) 19:18 OldCoder SergioAD, I restarted 19:18 Trixar_za OldCoder: Yeah 19:18 OldCoder Are you still logged in? 19:18 Calinou OldCoder, don't grant interact by default 19:18 OldCoder Calinou, I do NOT usually 19:19 Calinou tell people to use areas locks 19:19 SergioAD yes :D I will restart 19:19 OldCoder This was a test of YOUR _game :-) Calinou 19:19 OldCoder Calinou, and kids hate areas too complicated 19:19 Calinou it is not areas 19:19 Calinou you place a damn area lock block 19:19 Calinou it locks 25³ area 19:19 Calinou it's that easy 19:19 Calinou like PreciousStones in Minecraft 19:19 OldCoder What is with the "damn" be polite I was testing YOUR _game 19:19 Calinou many people use that just fine there 19:19 OldCoder What is with the "damn" be polite I was testing YOUR _game 19:20 Calinou “area lock” is just a fancy term for “protector” 19:20 * OldCoder is now migrating to Carbone so be polite 19:20 Calinou sorry 19:20 OldCoder See above 19:20 OldCoder Indeed D: 19:20 Calinou clearly not in a good mood right now 19:20 Calinou sick of constantly fighting with people 19:20 OldCoder Nope 19:20 OldCoder Then don't 19:20 Calinou and being banned from everywhere 19:20 OldCoder ?? 19:20 OldCoder How has that happened? 19:20 Trixar_za OldCoder: Mind you, I've always been a weird player. Other people came for the crafting and building, I came for exploring caves and stuff. Other people came for effects created by mods - I mess with the mods to get the effects I want. 19:20 OldCoder Trixar_za, I would like to see a world by *you* 19:21 OldCoder Enough with the kids and their "I must be master of my own empty world; snap to it, servant!" :D 19:21 Trixar_za Hell, that explorer part is as old as my online gaming. In MUDs I walked head first into areas that got me killed. Had to beg higher level characters to go get my corpse 19:21 OldCoder Trixar_za, Ah. Let us talk about possibilities for Openmine or other worlds. 19:21 OldCoder You might like Moontest 19:21 SergioAD Ok grestarted 19:22 OldCoder SergioAD, first 19:22 SergioAD *restarted :D 19:22 OldCoder I'm not going to explain how to read coords 19:22 OldCoder Google for that or ask other players 19:22 OldCoder Press F5 on the PC and they should appear 19:22 OldCoder X Y Z 19:22 OldCoder Three numbers 19:22 OldCoder I do not even need coords for individual buildings! 19:22 OldCoder If buildings are close together I need just a region 19:22 SergioAD Ok thank you 19:23 OldCoder I need two coords and two only 19:23 OldCoder For each region or building 19:23 OldCoder The X Y Z at a lower corner that has the lowest X Y Z numbers 19:23 SergioAD Ok 19:23 OldCoder The X Y Z at an upper corner that has the highest X Y Z numbers 19:23 OldCoder Do you understand what I mean? 19:23 OldCoder If not find somebody to explain it I must rest 19:24 OldCoder Go to the world and I will grant some privs 19:26 rubenwardy !title http://rubenwardy.github.io/PuzzlePlatformer/ 19:26 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Puzzle Platform 19:31 OldCoder I need to lie down. If people would like to help start a new world, somebody explain X Y Z coords to SergioAD 19:31 OldCoder He is googling and I don't have time for that 19:31 Trixar_za Night OldCoder 19:31 OldCoder He is here and also logged in on Openmine: server minetest.org port 30023 19:32 OldCoder Not night Trixar_za lunch time but I have a thing that is tiring 19:32 OldCoder Medically 19:32 OldCoder I don't have the time to explain to him where to look for the coords 19:32 OldCoder Zzz 19:32 Trixar_za I just tired out my mind. I'm running on auto-pilot myself 19:32 OldCoder Nap, then 19:32 * OldCoder takes his own advice now 19:33 OldCoder Somebody talk to SergioAD on Openmine about coords 19:33 Trixar_za I can absorb large amount of information quickly, but I need to give it a day to process - also it gives me one hell of a headache :P 19:34 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/PuzzlePlatformer 19:34 rubenwardy XD 19:43 rubenwardy Deleted that repo, as I'll think I will wait until it is better. 19:43 SergioAD Hello again 19:44 SergioAD so somebody can host or create a brand new world for me? 19:45 SergioAD as I said before I like the OldCoder's Lord of the test inventory and cursor, I liked the Carbone textures and improvements (some of them allready present on my zip file) 19:46 SergioAD somebody with a powerfull what can support such server? 19:47 SergioAD I have not the mentioned game improvements (the mentioned inventories textures or cursor) but I have lots of mos 19:47 SergioAD somebody??? you will like it 19:48 * OldCoder laughs 19:48 OldCoder Done with rest 19:48 OldCoder SergioAD has just demonstrated what I was talking about before. 19:48 OldCoder I mean no offense to SergioAD 19:48 paramat comet during descent from 3km http://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2014/11/ROLIS_descent_image 19:48 SergioAD I see :/ 19:48 OldCoder SergioAD, I was and remain prepared to assist you 19:49 OldCoder But you and most people expect to much. I asked you just now to learn the basics of the game... 19:49 OldCoder Instead you came here and begged for somebody else to give you a free empty world with no work on your part 19:49 SergioAD I see 19:49 OldCoder Is this an unreasonable assessment? 19:49 Jordach paramat, please don't make a mapgen that makes comets 19:50 Calinou it will happen anyway 19:50 OldCoder You were asked to learned about X Y Z coords and instead begged to have somebody else give you a server 19:50 SergioAD pardon me but I have not the knowentage about these things 19:50 OldCoder SergioAD, you are expected to learn 19:50 SergioAD yes 19:50 OldCoder It is basics of the game; let alone the responsibilities of a world admin 19:50 OldCoder How can you expect to run a world if you do not know the most fact elements? 19:50 SergioAD I see, I will put many effort 19:51 OldCoder And coming here to beg for another person to give you a world instead of learning does not bode well 19:51 * Calinou is trying to get this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/nquake/ 19:51 SergioAD yes, my fault 19:51 OldCoder It is suggested, SergioAD, politely, that you learn enough to work on your own mods, how to admin a world, and become experienced 19:51 OldCoder This is a long term project and perhaps you will go far 19:51 OldCoder But begging without offering things in trade is not useful 19:52 OldCoder Calinou, nquake? 19:52 OldCoder Calinou, and feel free to PM if you need somebody to talk to 19:52 paramat lol i have already 19:52 Krock CraigyDavi, boost_cart got some updates - I don't know if you want to update your game, just notify. 19:53 OldCoder Does anybody besides RBA know the sky mod? What *I* offer is a Solar System world 19:53 Krock sky mod? 19:53 OldCoder I am told that the sky mod could be configured or patched to change images 19:53 OldCoder Krock, moment 19:53 OldCoder I am using it on Moontest 19:54 OldCoder http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/xx132/Phantom1714/screenshot_2596135054.png 19:54 OldCoder No that does not show it 19:54 OldCoder Hold on 19:54 OldCoder Hm; I don't see a thread for the mod 19:55 OldCoder I'm using it, though; back shortly while I research 19:55 paramat \O/ a historic first bounce off a comet 19:55 SergioAD WOOOOOOOW are lots of commands 19:55 SergioAD I will nee to learm a lot :D 19:56 OldCoder http://minetest.org/skymod.zip 19:56 OldCoder Krock, ^ 19:56 OldCoder Interesting, I can't find the source of the mod 19:56 Krock *downloads* 19:56 OldCoder But Sokomine and others are aware of it 19:57 OldCoder Looks like it will work dynamically 19:57 Krock ooh that one :D perfect to have this in my mod collection now 19:57 rubenwardy mediacru.sh is the best 19:57 OldCoder Sokomine suggests that I modify mapgen to put Mars, Titan, etc. on a plane 19:58 OldCoder Krock, perhaps you will comment, then... 19:58 stakewinner00 mmm compiling minetest -> lua/build/liblua.a(loslib.o): En la función `os_tmpname': loslib.c:(.text+0x28c): aviso: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' 19:58 SergioAD OldCOder pardon me I was overwhelmed by all the things what an admin needs to do and all the commands what he need to know 19:58 OldCoder I had thought to put Mars at one level, Moon at another, Titan, etc. 19:58 Trixar_za Wait - so it will generate planetary landscapes? 19:58 OldCoder SergioAD, you really do not need to know that much 19:58 OldCoder Trixar_za, I have the Moon 19:58 Krock OldCoder, into a single world? this gets difficult 19:58 OldCoder I will prepare skys for other worlds 19:58 OldCoder Krock, no; Sokomine suggested what to do 19:58 OldCoder I think it might be easy 19:59 Krock okay 19:59 OldCoder Originally the idea was... 19:59 sfan5 stakewinner00: just ignore that, it's normal 19:59 OldCoder To generate or create flat planes, multiple, in Moontest 19:59 OldCoder And put Mars on a different level 19:59 Trixar_za Wouldn't a sky look stary on the moon even with a sun involved? 19:59 OldCoder Yes 19:59 SergioAD I have a question for you, which material you have used for the moontest crystal montains? 19:59 OldCoder But Sokomine says just modify mapgen 19:59 OldCoder SergioAD, No time to look it up right now 19:59 Trixar_za And on Titan you wouldn't see the sun at all 19:59 OldCoder But Sokomine says just modify mapgen 19:59 OldCoder Yes 20:00 Trixar_za It will also be raining methane 20:00 OldCoder But Sokomine says just modify mapgen to produce different blocks for different quadrants of the map 20:00 OldCoder This is possible, right? 20:00 SergioAD Ok 20:00 OldCoder I can use skymod to produce a different sky for each quadrant 20:00 OldCoder Result, 4 to 8 worlds in one map 20:00 OldCoder Trixar_za, Krock, Calinou, others, what do you think? 20:01 stakewinner00 sfan5: Ok. 20:01 Trixar_za So one map, but with different world variables - that should be interesting. 20:01 Krock It's a perfect idea 20:01 Trixar_za Not sure how you'll deal with gravity and physics changes though 20:01 OldCoder I will host a Solar System world 20:01 Calinou yes, would be Lua mapgens? 20:01 Krock but it could require.. uhm.. some work 20:01 OldCoder Trixar_za, I can write those 20:01 OldCoder Calinou, should be a modified version of a standard mapgen 20:01 OldCoder Several people have said it will work 20:01 Calinou would need a C++ modification then 20:01 OldCoder Is there an alternative or is that the best approach? 20:02 OldCoder Isn't there a mapgen mod? 20:02 * OldCoder remembers one 20:03 Trixar_za I've seen several 20:03 OldCoder Then this should be possible, right? 20:03 OldCoder It mostly needs (1) sky mod changing sky at different locations (2) modified mapgen (3) some physics code and Moontest already has variable gravity 20:04 OldCoder So this seems quite doable 20:04 OldCoder Especially if there is a mod-based mapgen 20:04 OldCoder Shall I call this WorldTest instead of Moontest ? 20:04 OldCoder Imagine... 20:04 OldCoder You get in your little UFO on the Moon, fly east, and arrive on Mars 20:05 OldCoder Or take a travelnet to Pluto, which will be quite cold 20:05 Sokomine Krock: having diffrent worlds at diffrent heights ought to work. i'm not sure about the background image, and i don't have time for it :-( at least not right now 20:05 OldCoder Sokomine, didn't you suggest easier to put them all on the same plane? 20:05 OldCoder You were quite clear about this 20:06 OldCoder Sokomine, looking at the image code, that part seems easy 20:06 Sokomine Krock: the moontest world run by oldcoder has a beautiful background image which really makes you feel standing on a moon, with the universe around you 20:06 OldCoder So it is natural that people wish to travel there :-) 20:06 Krock Sokomine, yes. I already was there once 20:07 OldCoder So, different levels or different regions on a flat plane? Is the latter easier? 20:07 Trixar_za Could be fun 20:08 Trixar_za Imagine walking on CO2 ice - it will kick up particles like crazy 20:09 Sokomine OldCoder: i had in mind putting them at diffrent heights 20:09 paramat yeah my moonrealm mod skybox is not as pretty =) 20:09 OldCoder Sokomine, that was my idea; I thought you vetoed it and said put them all on the same level 20:09 OldCoder However, I will go with consensus 20:09 Sokomine Trixar_za: well, there are limits as to what can be done :-) 20:10 OldCoder I must deal with issues elsewhere today. However, if people have views on different levels versus different quadrants, please advise me 20:10 Sokomine OldCoder: oh. perhaps i didn't understand it right then. or was too much thinking about how it would be best. sorry if there was a misunderstanding. but it's really a very nice, very diffrent world. it's a lot of fun to hop around there and stare at the image in awe 20:11 Trixar_za lol - true. For example Titan will mostly be a weird colour, wouldn't it? Purple 'water' and stuff. 20:15 paramat Titan is very orange, ive done that one too 20:19 OldCoder Sokomine, you did suggest quadrants over levels. paramat Can I use a mod of yours to do what I wish? 20:21 Jordach paramat, make a game where gravity is non-existant and you have to use zeg's UFOs or a varaiant to get around the meteors 20:21 paramat yes WTFPL, early moonrealm is actually a titan, with red lakes 20:22 * Jordach would like to see how space mining would work in Minetest 20:22 paramat nuts, very low gravity would be good too 20:22 Jordach no pickaxes, they'd spin you around with the digging force 20:22 paramat yes space is the future of mining IRL 20:23 Jordach so either drills or jackhammer picks 20:23 Jordach with near extreme levels of durability to simulate battery power :P 20:24 Trixar_za lol 20:24 Trixar_za What next? Comet mining? 20:24 Trixar_za Oops - the harpoons didn't deploy... :P 20:24 OldCoder paramat if you are able to comment, I remain interested in the answer 20:25 paramat ^ sorry answered above 20:25 paramat yes its WTFPL 20:26 Jordach paramat, asteroid mining would be the tits 20:26 Jordach i'd play that 20:26 Jordach :3 20:26 paramat yes exactly 20:26 Trixar_za Hey, wouldn't cave exploring be fun in zero G? 20:27 Jordach Trixar_za, i've played space engineers, but a MT version would be better 20:27 Trixar_za Any point can be the floor 20:27 paramat MTs vertical height makes this all possible 20:27 Jordach although pavel's airship mod would make awesome custom mining ships 20:28 Jordach fuck. 20:28 Jordach i actually want this 20:28 paramat ive been modding in this direction for a year already 20:28 OldCoder paramat, I misunderstood. I am not asking about the license. Are you indicating that one of your mods will work with a level-based multi-world map? 20:28 OldCoder Which one should I try? 20:29 paramat OldCoder, yes, finding the link for you now ... 20:30 Jordach paramat, just randomly sized asteroids would be perfect 20:30 Sokomine mining tiny asteroids might be a good option. skyblock games are also pretty popular but have to get there material out of thin air 20:31 Jordach and a small starting platform just so you can get going 20:31 Jordach and maybe a jetpack for easier travel without using ships 20:31 paramat https://github.com/paramat/moonrealm/tree/9797f171c851f46d9d64014224b360463eca132f 20:32 Sokomine the moon mod used on oldcoders moontest world has moon trees. they're a bit odd and produce normaml wood 20:32 catninja OldCoder: I'm running a server with moontest just to try it out, but it konstantly crashes - did you have that problem in the beginning/now too? 20:33 paramat moontest is wacky, uses lots of stuff from moonrealm 20:33 Trixar_za Reminds me a little of AvP - the original. When you played an alien you could walk on walls and the roof. Most people kept to the ground. I adapted quickly and destroyed lights and kept to the side walls (most people assume you're on the roof or floor). 20:34 OldCoder catninja, we have almost no crashes at all 20:35 OldCoder Sokomine, we are working on moon-wood 20:35 OldCoder Leaves will probably become plastic 20:35 OldCoder catninja, we have been modifying the _game and I will GitHub a new one 20:35 OldCoder Possibly named Worldtest 20:35 Sokomine it's helpful if there's at least a bit of gravity. and the trees...they could produce an atmosphere that's just too thin for human beeings but well enough for plantlife. that way, furnaces might be acceptable... 20:35 catninja OldCoder: not in the beginning either? Then it might be me 20:36 OldCoder catninja, I don't recall crashes presently 20:36 OldCoder paramat, the moonrealm link you posted is for a mapgen that supports multiple levels? 20:37 paramat well its a single level realm that can be stacked above/below others 20:37 Sokomine oldcoder: moonwood might be easy. just turn the wooden texture into shades of gray. then it would at least fit in. trees also ought to be much higher 8they can if the gravity is lower). practical reasons may speak against that - people are lazy and usually only mine what they can reach without effort 20:37 paramat i have other space mapgens 20:37 Jordach Sokomine, no gravity would mess so much up 20:37 Jordach s/no// 20:38 paramat you're welcome to stack them up 20:38 Trixar_za I really should learn Minetest's API 20:39 catninja OldCoder: it seems to crash on moontest_appletree of all things, will check it out 20:43 OldCoder catninja, Oh I know what that is 20:43 OldCoder catninja, He left out trees 20:43 OldCoder Rather growth 20:43 OldCoder Nil pointer 20:44 OldCoder My version fixes that. DFeniks has added other fixes. 20:44 OldCoder So, before I go, can anybody comment on what code I should grep to learn about stacking realms? 20:44 catninja "he"? moontest_appletree does not exist so when it tries to call it so krasches the server? 20:45 OldCoder He is RealTinyMonster. Who has apparently been K-Lined by Freenode BTW. 20:45 OldCoder I thought that he was age 22 or so. He turned out to be 14, got bored, and wandered off... 20:45 OldCoder Leaving me stuck with a half-finished world 20:45 OldCoder That I was obligated to work on because now it had tons of people 20:45 OldCoder D: 20:45 Trixar_za Oh, I know the type 20:45 catninja Oh, how frustrating 20:45 * OldCoder can be excused for speaking sharply to Sergio as he does not wish to repeat the experience 20:46 Trixar_za I once closed a few year old project because of people like that 20:46 OldCoder I have the skills to make some of the fixes, but no time. I will make the new _game public 20:46 OldCoder And invite people to participate. It *is* an unusual and interesting world 20:46 OldCoder With many happy players 20:46 OldCoder If I add Mars and Pluto... it will be a milestone world I think 20:47 OldCoder paramat, Sokomine, others, thank you for your remarks. I wish to discuss this further. 20:47 OldCoder o/ 20:47 Trixar_za Pluto isn't much bigger than our moon though 20:47 catninja OldCoder: I'm not shure how to handle the nil thing but if youre busy I will go look somewhere else 20:47 OldCoder catninja, I am truly out of time; but you can just use my _game when I push it to GitHub 20:48 Trixar_za Day/Night cycles would also be weird - lol 20:48 Sokomine Trixar_za: not a big problem. reality can be bent to a considerable degree in a mt world. it has to for gameplay reasons 20:52 Trixar_za Sounds like a fun thing to play around with. I'd need to understand how it works to be of any help though - lol 21:07 catninja OldCoder: fixed it! I took the appletree function from Amaz and fishys Lott and rewrote it to fit in moontest so now it does not krasch! *proud* 21:07 catninja Amaz: thx! 21:08 Amaz :( 21:08 Amaz *:) 21:17 catninja the Yvannamire(?)fruit makes an eccelent spaceapple 21:18 * Jordach just wants a realistic space mining game for MT 21:19 Jordach none of this fantasy bullshit 21:20 catninja Jordach: I just made appletrees and fixed a krasching server with ctrl+c ctrl+v so just do it! 21:20 Amaz Everything has its place :) 21:21 Amaz But, a realistic space mining game would be awesome/ 21:22 Jordach with drills, a sort of spacestation (auto-generated), pavel's airship mod for custom mining / cargo ships 21:24 proller and lagship 21:25 Amaz Solved in Freeminer? ;) 21:25 proller something - yes 21:25 proller 50 ms max lag ;) 21:25 Jordach a bucket with a patch is still a bucket with a patch 21:26 Amaz ^ 21:26 y my latency is higher than that 21:26 y is freeminer going to use timetraveling features proller 21:26 Amaz On my server, max_lag = 0.669 21:26 Jordach actually, ive had negative latency with mt 21:27 proller Amaz, with disabled mod and tuned all settings to 1 ;) 21:27 Amaz Nope. 21:27 shadowzone I'm stuck with freeminer, cause my Username Box on Minetest is missing and I don't know how to fix it. 21:27 Amaz Carbone, mgv5, another server running, web browser. 21:27 Amaz And playing with carts. 21:27 Jordach shadowzone, is it a VPS? 21:28 Jordach if so, rm -rf * with a sudo and manually reinstall that thing 21:28 proller Amaz, try add mobs 21:28 shadowzone Nope 21:28 Amaz It has mobs :) 21:28 proller shadowzone, what missing ? 21:28 shadowzone I git cloned and compiled it. 21:28 Amaz max_lag = 0.59 now :) 21:28 shadowzone On Minetest(Not freeminer) My Username Box is missing 21:29 proller Amaz, and 0 players ? 21:29 Amaz There is me and a friend... 21:29 GhostDoge Amaz: 590 ms lag isn't bad 21:29 Amaz I think he's timed out though. 21:29 proller fm now will have lag 30-50 even with 50 players 21:29 proller and any slowmods 21:30 Amaz GhostDoge, nope. It's very good. 21:30 proller instant inventory and chests! 21:30 shadowzone I think that Zeno`s patch is very useful 21:30 GhostDoge > instant 21:30 GhostDoge that's impossible 21:31 shadowzone Yeah..IT is 21:31 proller okay, visual instant 21:31 GhostDoge unless you use time travel 21:31 y client-side prediction eh 21:31 proller without predictiono 21:33 Jordach proller, stfu https://cdn.mediacru.sh/HgBLP-4uN0I-.png 21:33 Jordach rtt = -1.0 21:33 Jordach >Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:23 pm 21:33 Jordach fak BFD is getting old 21:34 shadowzone https://cdn.mediacru.sh/cTk76avzJwc0.png <-- that's what it's doing 21:35 ElectronLibre Just a bug ._. Close the window, then start minetest again. 21:36 shadowzone Nope still doin' that 21:37 OldCoder catninja, you should be congratulated 21:38 shadowzone Even freeminer is outdated. 21:38 shadowzone 0.4.9 21:39 proller build it! 21:39 proller release toooo old 21:41 shadowzone But does anyone know how to fix that error? 21:41 shadowzone Or whatever it is. 21:44 * Fritigern wishes he could help 21:45 shadowzone It's okay 21:45 shadowzone I can maybe talk to VanessaE see if she could help. 21:46 * VanessaE throws cookies and Nutella at shadowzone 21:46 shadowzone YAY! 21:46 VanessaE as for the missing field, no idea at all 21:47 shadowzone Okay 21:47 Amaz Best kind of help there is :D 21:47 shadowzone I haven't been playing with the code or anything. 21:47 shadowzone And my sister played it and that's when it disappeared. 21:47 Amaz What more could be wanted/needed than cookies and nutella?! 21:47 VanessaE I've never had that happen. worst I've had happen is some minor misalignment of elements 21:47 Amaz Sisters... 21:47 shadowzone Yeah. 21:48 VanessaE Amaz: I also have Krackel bars here (I wanted Symphony but the store was out) and diet mountain dew :) 21:48 shadowzone I'm the oldest of 6 kids and I have little siblings who enjoy playing Minetest. 21:48 VanessaE yes, it's a junk food day 21:48 shadowzone Yuck! 21:48 shadowzone Diet 21:48 Amaz :D 21:48 VanessaE shadowzone: I can't have the sugar in the soda because it's liquid. 21:49 shadowzone Oh 21:49 VanessaE (but the solid forms in the junk food are less egregious) 21:49 shadowzone Okay... 21:49 shadowzone But still. 21:49 shadowzone Diet ain't good for you 21:49 VanessaE better diet than loaded with HFCS. 21:50 * Amaz has been really put of saturated fat today... 21:50 shadowzone True 21:50 shadowzone And Aspertame 21:50 VanessaE nothing wrong with sat fat. 21:51 shadowzone Nope 21:51 shadowzone It's trans fat, iirc 21:51 * Amaz has seen what it does to cholesterol, and what cholesterol leads to, and how a heart attack happens. 21:52 VanessaE Amaz: yeah, due to excess intake of carbohydrates. 21:52 Amaz Yep :) 21:53 Amaz I just learn how a heart attack actually happens... *shudder* 21:53 Amaz *learned 21:53 * shadowzone thinks 21:54 shadowzone Okay I just tried deleting everything to do with Minetest except for mods, Texture packs and games(minetest_game_minnmle[not sure how to spell that] And Shadow_game) re-git cloned and compiled still the same. 21:56 MinetestForFun Hi everybody, today i need to change the damage of my mese_monster mob (from a modified version of mobs redo), i've tried the value "damage = 7," but the monster just don't take my value... the damage stay at 1... this mob use the "mobs:register_arrow("mobs:mese_arrow", {" and when i look into the api, i can't tweaks this damage, anybody can help me please ? 22:20 oOChainLynxOo !seen Blaxar 22:20 MinetestBot oOChainLynxOo: Sorry, I haven't seen blaxar around. 22:20 oOChainLynxOo :( 22:37 kilbith someone know a .sh to .bat converter online ? 22:37 oOChainLynxOo Hmm 22:38 oOChainLynxOo Hang on 22:41 oOChainLynxOo I've come up empty in my search 22:42 oOChainLynxOo Most people want to convert it the other way around (batch to shell) 22:42 oOChainLynxOo Afk 22:42 kilbith nvm, not possible 22:42 kilbith thx 22:42 y kilbith: it is possible, both are turing complete 22:43 y the problem is that you probably rely on external programs 22:43 kilbith i mean for found an online converter 22:43 kilbith find* 22:43 y "both are turing complete" is a crap argument 22:46 WindHero MinetestForFun 22:46 WindHero Still looking for help with the mese monster? 22:46 MinetestForFun y 22:47 y ? 22:47 MinetestForFun :p 22:47 MinetestForFun yes i need help for my mese monster :) 22:47 WindHero to change the damage value of the arrows, change the damage group calues 22:47 WindHero player:punch(self.object, 1.0, { 22:47 WindHero full_punch_interval=1.0, 22:47 WindHero damage_groups = {fleshy=1}, 22:47 WindHero }, {x=s.x-p.x, y=s.y-p.y, z=s.z-p.z}) 22:47 MinetestForFun so flashy=7 ? 22:47 WindHero yeah 22:47 MinetestForFun ok, thank you very much :) 22:47 WindHero try that, should work 22:47 WindHero np 22:47 MinetestForFun i try it now 22:48 WindHero I've been working with mobs so much the last few days... :P 22:48 MinetestForFun Ahah, a good thing for me :D 22:59 hawk666 hello need advice on updating my server ? 23:00 hawk666 i have a vps running ubuntu server but want to update to 0.4.10 23:03 jbitcm- hello 23:04 jbitcm- can you help me explain how play minetest 23:06 WindHero what, like controls or physical gameplay? 23:06 y you need to use a mouse and a keyboard 23:06 catninja jbitcm-: http://wiki.minetest.net/Getting_Started 23:07 WindHero ^ 23:07 jbitcm- y: but what is the objective 23:07 LittleJoe to survive 23:07 y jbitcm-: it is a sandbox game, the objective is having fun 23:08 RealBadAngel no, the goal is to have fun 23:08 LittleJoe I'm guessing you don't play minecraft? 23:08 y :P rba! 23:08 RealBadAngel ninjad as usual ;) 23:08 jbitcm- LittleJoe: this is my firs time using minetest 23:09 LittleJoe so you have played minecraft? 23:09 jbitcm- y: and its dificut to me understhand 23:09 y jbitcm-: in Minetest you can practically "do a lot of things", the one that is fun for you is the actual objetive 23:10 y you may like to build shiny buildings, so that is why you go to a creative server, where you have 1000 different building blocks 23:10 WindHero If you want to have a more concrete goal than having fun by building awesome stuff and exploring places... 23:10 WindHero try a subgame 23:10 oOChainLynxOo I will be back later guys, closing all programs while exporting in Sony Vegas will speed up the process 23:11 hawk666 I am currently setting up a server on a VPS running Ubuntu 14.04 server. I want to update it to 0.4.10 as it's currently running on 0.4.9 But i can't find a repo for it help ? 23:11 WindHero cya 23:11 y get a better computer >:3 23:11 y \o 23:11 jbitcm- WindHero: subgame? 23:11 WindHero https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=15 23:11 jbitcm- i'm in mac and want to install a mod for practicing or play 23:12 hawk666 anyone ? 23:12 WindHero I dunno hawk, I don't run a server :P 23:12 y minetest is based on the a "game" logic, you install games (I can think of carbone and dreambuilder right now), and if you want to change or add stuff, you use mods over it 23:12 y hawk666: how did you install it? 23:12 WindHero Look no further than https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10192, jbitcm 23:15 hawk666 anyone surly someone knows 23:15 y hawk666: how did you install the actual running server? 23:15 LittleJoe hawk666: did you try compiling your own from Github? 23:17 hawk666 how do i do that ? last time i got a lib.level.db error 23:18 LittleJoe idk about any errors or how to avoid them : / 23:18 hawk666 http://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server/Debian this is the install i done but in ubuntu and skipping the first 23:19 hawk666 so how do i compile ? 23:24 WindHero Have you considered just doing the same process again? 23:24 WindHero backup the current world 23:25 WindHero install 23:25 WindHero then copy it back in? 23:25 WindHero (Don't take my word as truth without corroboration- this is all hypothesis) 23:25 hawk666 wont work for some reason it will only install 0.4.9 23:25 y VanessaE: do you know any lisp? 23:26 LittleJoe all I've compiled is the minetest game idk about an special server stuff 23:26 y VanessaE: templates are like a f**cked up version of lisp macros 23:29 LittleJoe this is the source code: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game 23:30 LittleJoe and there's something to do with cmake . and make 23:30 LittleJoe that was a long time ago lol 23:32 WindHero any luck on the mese monster, mtf? 23:32 WindHero *mff 23:32 MinetestForFun i haven't reboot the server yet 23:32 WindHero kk 23:32 MinetestForFun i reboot it after a lot of updates :) 23:32 WindHero xD 23:34 LittleJoe anybody wanna be an elve : D 23:35 LittleJoe lord of the test has officially opened 23:47 VanessaE y: I don't know lisp, but if a macro there is anything like they were back in my 6502 assembly days, they I get it. 23:48 y no, it is like a programming language that generates code 23:49 WindHero isn't it used for AI...? 23:50 WindHero wait no 23:50 WindHero I'm thinking of... 23:50 WindHero yeah, that's right 23:51 WindHero Lisp is from the late 1950's :P 23:52 y WindHero: I am talking about the whole Lisp family 23:52 y lisp changed a lot from 1960 to 2014 23:54 VanessaE y: that's how macros worked in 6502 also. 23:54 y oh neat 23:55 VanessaE though far simpler than what a modern language uses of course 23:55 VanessaE a few lines and some compiler directives in, hundreds of bytes of code out 23:55 y all macros do that, but in Lisp you actually have the language itself for generating code 23:55 y VanessaE: was the macro system "turing-complete"? 23:55 VanessaE you know, I'm not sure. 23:55 VanessaE good question. 23:55 kaeza it's basically a fancy #define <_< 23:55 VanessaE I don't think anyone ever tried :) 23:55 * kaeza hides 23:56 y what is a fancy define? 23:56 y lisp macros are basically taking code as first-class 23:56 VanessaE demo coders back in the day loved them for unrolling loops and so on 23:56 y and letting you run functions that process functions as inputs and return new functions, oh wait, this is functional programming 23:57 VanessaE yeah no.. 6502 assemblers weren't THAT advanced by comparison :) 23:57 VanessaE but they were getting pretty good by the time I stopped actively coding 23:58 y http://xkcd.com/297/ 23:58 y Lisp was too advanced for its time though 23:59 VanessaE haha 23:59 * VanessaE throws a few $ and # at y