Time Nick Message 00:21 jordan4ibanez Uh oh I'm pushing my computer to the absolute limit. Hopefully it doesn't crash. :/ 00:28 hisforever VanessaE is your server down by chance? 00:30 shadowzone Nope 00:30 shadowzone Server_announce is somewhat broke I think. 00:31 hisforever ty Shadow when I try to login I come up with a screen I've never seen before 00:33 hisforever I'[m getting in now 01:15 Fritigern I just found this in the log of my current MT session, dunno what it means. I am not worried, I just want to know what it means.: Irrlicht log: Could not find EKEY_CODE, using orig. X11 keycode instead: 134 01:56 jordan4ibanez http://youtu.be/GUQCNifn1e4 04:47 Fritigern Zeno`: I am getting closer to the 1000fps mark :-) https://www.dropbox.com/s/i8fqvt8hqqx52o0/My_build7.png?dl=0 04:50 Fritigern FPS is closer to 500 when v_range == 75 05:03 shmanceloticus 1000 fps :) Getting prepared for the release of "Minetest: The Matrix" http://www.librador.com/2009/01/16/The-frame-rate-of-the-universe/ 05:06 Fritigern shmanceloticus: Zeno already broke the 1000fps barrier :-) 05:08 Fritigern He got 1400 or so. <== Jealous! 05:10 Fritigern Here's proof :-)) http://imgur.com/2TD0pd8 05:13 zlsa i get 15fps :/ 05:14 NemoMT zlsa, I feel your pain. 06:07 Fritigern NemoMT: there are tricks to get a higherfps. have a look in minetest.conf.example 06:09 NemoMT Fritigern, will it boost your FPS in multiplayer? 06:09 Fritigern It should 06:09 Fritigern Just cut out some stuff like shaders, nice leaves, etc. 06:40 NemoMT Fritigern, this actually helped me a lot. Thanks a ton! :) 06:40 Fritigern You're welcome :-) 06:53 FreeLikeGNU if only minetest were bundled with a live distro 07:38 Fritigern FreeLikeGNU: Nobody is stopping you 07:44 FreeLikeGNU Now to get nobody out of the way 08:40 Zeno` hah. Well done Fritigern 10:20 Zeno` roar 12:35 Toothpick I was running .3 on a linux box with debian stable. I added the repositories for unstable and upgraded to .4~ and it framerate is now terrible. Stopped shading and framerate improved, but unable to see icons at bottom of screen (nodes?) like the wood, sticks and such 12:39 Zeno` .3 is... 2 years old? 12:41 Zeno` but nvm 12:42 Zeno` what version of 0.4. are you using? 12:46 Toothpick It is .4.10 12:47 Toothpick It was this install from sid: https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/minetest 12:47 Toothpick I don't have access to the computer until Monday, it's in a classroom. 12:48 Toothpick I turned all the video options off on the minetest client, I'll play with it more next week and see the icons will show. 12:59 kaeza mornings 13:03 LazyJ o/ 16:24 Salbei_ hi 16:24 ElectronLibre Hello Salbei_. 16:24 kaeza hi 16:24 kaeza quiet morning, huh? 16:25 Salbei_ im french its 17h24 here :) 16:26 kaeza uruguayan, actually, it's 14:26 here <_< 16:26 ElectronLibre Only 3 hours beetween us, I throught there was more. 16:27 Salbei_ sfan5: do u know who add servers in banlist on servers.minetest.net? 16:27 sfan5 huh? 16:27 Salbei_ cauz i think im banned 16:27 sfan5 there is no server in the banlist currently 16:27 Salbei_ ok 16:28 Salbei_ I can't be in the list since few days 16:29 ElectronLibre Have you checked your minetest.conf ? 16:29 Salbei_ yes 16:30 Salbei_ and i don't had modify somethink since few week 16:30 Salbei_ the last week i was listed 16:30 VanessaE Salbei_: the list is broken again. 16:30 VanessaE my servers aren't showing either 16:30 Salbei_ ok i have to wait? 16:30 VanessaE yeah 16:31 VanessaE at least one other person here has also had his server inexplicably disappear 16:31 VanessaE not sure of the reason. 16:31 shadowzone My server is showing up. 16:31 VanessaE shadowzone: yeah well you're just special ;) 16:31 jojoa1997 Hi 16:31 VanessaE hey jojo 16:32 ElectronLibre Hello jojoa1997. 16:32 sfan5 VanessaE: lemme try to revert shadows commit 16:32 VanessaE sfan5: wait first. 16:32 shadowzone XD 16:32 shadowzone I don't think so 16:32 VanessaE sfan5: why would his last commit cause only some servers to disappear and not all of them? 16:33 sfan5 VanessaE: dunno 16:33 Jordach wat 16:33 sfan5 wow 16:33 sfan5 a Jordach 16:33 Salbei_ sfan5: say here when is reverted plz 16:33 VanessaE inb4 sfan5's "shrug" emoticon :) 16:33 ElectronLibre Perhaps the build used is a cause. 16:33 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:34 VanessaE that's the one :) 16:34 sfan5 I have that at ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:34 sfan5 no 16:34 sfan5 not that 16:34 VanessaE lol 16:34 sfan5 !c ":" + "shr:" 16:34 MinetestBot ':shr:' 16:34 sfan5 thatz 16:34 sfan5 -z 16:34 VanessaE handy 16:35 sfan5 Salbei_, VanessaE: reverted the commit and restart uwsgi 16:35 VanessaE I'm genuinely curious because if it means my servers are behaving out-of-spec, I'd rather fix them than to have the master list be wrong 16:36 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:36 PenguinDad 05R04a07i08n03b09o10w 11S02h12r06u13g05! 04¯07\08_03(09ツ10)11_02/12¯ 16:37 VanessaE sfan5: ok you think you're so smart, make a "hands on the hips, unfavorable expression on face" one :D 16:37 sfan5 !rainbow ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:37 MinetestBot 4¯\7_(8ツ)3_/12¯ 16:37 sfan5 VanessaE: there is no katakana that looks like unfavorable expression 16:37 sfan5 (context: ツ is a katakana) 16:38 VanessaE figures :) 16:38 VanessaE I knew it was katakana though 16:38 VanessaE so switch to chinese traditional then :) 16:38 PenguinDad sfan5: Is there kanji for that then? :P 16:39 sfan5 PenguinDad: not sure, ask the unicode charts 16:39 PenguinDad lol 16:40 VanessaE 吢 16:40 VanessaE that's close 16:40 VanessaE ( "vomiting of a dog", U+5422 ) 16:41 shadowzone I think my "I have no idea what they are talking about" emoticon is pretty funny. 16:41 shadowzone fO_O 16:42 sfan5 VanessaE: ಠ▃ಠ16:43 PenguinDad ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯ 16:43 sfan5 ┻━┻ ︵╰( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 16:44 VanessaE sfan5: 㕣 (U+3563, "marsh at the foot of the hills") 16:45 shadowzone °¸° 16:45 VanessaE (yes, this is what happens when I get too bored...) 16:46 shadowzone VanessaE: go boot someone in the rear end for swearing. 16:46 VanessaE shadowzone: no one to boot :P 16:46 shadowzone awww shit 16:47 VanessaE ;kick shadowzone swearing 16:47 VanessaE ;) 16:47 shadowzone Okay.. 16:47 VanessaE jk :) 16:47 shadowzone That was the plan. 16:48 VanessaE too lazy to ;op first :P 16:48 PenguinDad rofl https://soundcloud.com/alexmashup/weediam-tell-overture 16:48 sfan5 !op VanessaE 16:48 sfan5 look 16:48 sfan5 I did it for you 16:48 VanessaE haha 16:48 shadowzone XD 16:48 Calinou fO_O 16:48 * Calinou gets the pitchfork from shadowzone 16:48 Calinou O_O 16:48 * sfan5 forks Calinou 16:48 shadowzone um.. 16:48 shadowzone fO_O 16:48 Calinou ffO_O 16:49 shadowzone EO_O 16:49 shadowzone That is the pitchfork 16:49 shadowzone ---EO_O 16:49 * ElectronLibre finds these O very interesting. O_O" 16:49 shadowzone O_O 16:49 sfan5 VanessaE: does it work with the serverlist now? 16:49 PenguinDad 0_O 16:49 shadowzone Um.. 16:49 shadowzone O_+ 16:50 Salbei_ sfan not better 16:50 VanessaE sfan5: nope.avi 16:50 VanessaE which is rather odd. 16:50 sfan5 hm 16:50 sfan5 VanessaE: which IP does your server use to communicate with servers.minetest.net? 16:50 VanessaE sfan5: 192.99.11.10 16:50 sfan5 (asking because servers.minetest.net has v6 too) 16:51 sfan5 and I'm pretty sure you have v6 too 16:51 VanessaE as for ipv6...um... either fe80::4e72:b9ff:fe66:169/64 or 2607:5300:60:3c0a::1/64 ? 16:51 sfan5 fe80:: is local 16:52 VanessaE (first is Scope:Link, the second is Scope:Global) 16:52 shadowzone Oooh 16:52 * Calinou enabled IPv6 just recently 16:52 Calinou it looks like some websites use it in a transparent way 16:52 shadowzone Okay 16:52 sfan5 s/some/every/ s/websites/website/ s/use/uses/ 16:52 shadowzone Should I enable it then? 16:53 sfan5 it does not matter whether you connect via v4 or v6 16:53 VanessaE sfan5: my server shows the following from ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/VdSWi8nn 16:54 VanessaE well, just the stuff that mentions ipv6 anyway 16:54 VanessaE (I don't understand ipv6 at all really) 16:54 iqualfragile_ sfan5: is there some way to have some trusted ips in the serverlist 16:54 sfan5 iqualfragile_: y that? 16:54 sfan5 VanessaE: fe80:: is always local 16:54 iqualfragile_ where the script does not check if the server is actually up 16:54 sfan5 why? 16:55 iqualfragile_ so you can have socket activated servers 16:55 iqualfragile_ without being ultra hacky 16:55 sfan5 umm 16:56 sfan5 all you need to do is start the server, announce, shut down 16:56 sfan5 and do that in the normal announce interval to make sure the server stays on the list 16:56 iqualfragile_ sfan5: so there is an announce interval… 16:56 sfan5 VanessaE: your server is running, right? 16:56 iqualfragile_ this makes things harder 16:57 sfan5 harder? 16:57 sfan5 no 16:57 iqualfragile_ yes, you need to start and stop the server all the time 16:57 sfan5 actually you don't 16:57 VanessaE sfan5: yup, it's quite up. 16:57 VanessaE !up Creative 16:57 MinetestBot VanessaE: Invalid Address 16:57 iqualfragile_ without you would be able to just put some json 16:57 VanessaE !up 192.99.11.10 30000 16:57 MinetestBot 192.99.11.10:30000 is up (82ms) 16:58 sfan5 VanessaE: this? 2607:5300:60:3c0a::1 - - [06/Nov/2014:16:57:34 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10-149-gdbf97af (Linux/3.10.23-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 x86_64)" "-" 16:58 VanessaE (well creative was having trouble yesterday but that was a mod crashing; the others were unaffected) 16:58 Salbei_ calinou its me the website user 16:58 sfan5 iqualfragile_: it is actually sufficient to have a listening "Connection" 16:58 Salbei_ what is the problem with thus? 16:58 sfan5 the server list only checks that 16:58 VanessaE sfan5: yeah, that looks like my ipv6 address shown alongside "Scope:Global". 16:58 iqualfragile_ ah, so the server list polls in regular intervalls? 16:58 sfan5 noi 16:58 sfan5 -i 16:59 sfan5 the server list doesn't poll at all 16:59 sfan5 the server list checks if the server is up if you announce 16:59 iqualfragile_ ok 16:59 iqualfragile_ so far so good, understood 16:59 sfan5 if a server announce was not renewed within X time it gets dropped off the list 16:59 VanessaE *checks uname -a* 16:59 VanessaE yep, that's my machine all right 16:59 sfan5 VanessaE: the 202 status code means "registered successfully" 17:00 VanessaE ok so at least it's not on my end :) 17:00 sfan5 [...] - - [06/Nov/2014:16:59:44 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10 (Windows/5.1-Service_Pack_3 x86)" "-" 17:00 sfan5 seriously 17:00 sfan5 who uses windows for servers 17:01 sfan5 actually 17:01 sfan5 isn't 5.1 XP? 17:01 Calinou stop whining 17:01 VanessaE yep 17:01 Calinou it is 17:01 VanessaE service pack 3 would suggest XP 17:01 sfan5 Calinou: I'm not whining 17:01 sfan5 yet another with XP 17:01 Calinou using Windows on a server is perfectly legitimate choice 17:01 sfan5 Krock's server is a different one 17:01 PenguinDad sfan5: Krock? 17:01 sfan5 no wait 17:01 sfan5 hm 17:01 sfan5 might be krocks server 17:02 shadowzone I ran a server on linux. 17:02 shadowzone Attempted to run one on windows. 17:02 shadowzone That failed successfully 17:02 Calinou I have ran Windows servers successfully for various games 17:02 Calinou it works mostly as well 17:02 Calinou ie. performance is good, and all that 17:02 Calinou may be harder to automate or such 17:02 Calinou but it doesn't mean you can't, or shouldn't do it just because you're on Windows 17:03 sfan5 hm 17:04 VanessaE sfan5: maybe a parsing error of the data for some other server in the list ahead of Fritigern's and mine? 17:04 sfan5 not very possible 17:05 sfan5 if it fails to parse something it will abort 17:05 VanessaE I mean after the database is populated, when it goes to read it back or something? 17:05 VanessaE just grasping at straws :P 17:05 iqualfragile_ Calinou: do you run windows? 17:06 Calinou not right now 17:06 Calinou but I have 17:06 Calinou http://images.wikia.com/mlpfanart/images/4/41/Rainbow_Dash_haters_gonna_hate.gif :p 17:06 iqualfragile_ Calinou: so can you test something on windows? 17:08 Calinou not for now 17:08 Calinou also can't compile 17:09 iqualfragile_ is there _somebody_ that can 17:09 iqualfragile_ anybody? 17:09 iqualfragile_ no? 17:09 iqualfragile_ so we have not a single windows user? 17:09 VanessaE can't use a virtual machine? 17:09 iqualfragile_ i don't hve windows 17:14 iqualfragile_ not even in a vm 17:27 nyuszika7h iqualfragile_: I have Windows 17:27 iqualfragile_ nyuszika7h: can you compile minetest on windows? 17:27 nyuszika7h never compiled things on Windows... what do I need? 17:28 Calinou all the libraries… by hand 17:29 PenguinDad iqualfragile_: can't you compile with mingw? 17:29 iqualfragile_ it is actually about testing a patch on windows 17:29 iqualfragile_ i would like to have that tested on windows 17:30 iqualfragile_ … never mind 17:38 rubenwardy Hi all! 17:38 rubenwardy I gotta try the MLP server. (I don't actually like MLP) 17:38 kaeza hey ruben 17:38 ElectronLibre Hello rubenwardy :). 17:40 Jordach ahhhhhhhhh yisssssss 17:40 rubenwardy !up 98.237.133.224 17:40 MinetestBot 98.237.133.224:30000 is up (163ms) 17:40 Jordach >dark room >f.lux enabled + screen dimming 17:40 Jordach my eyes man this feels good 17:43 SylvieLorxu I knew I forgot something on my laptop: Redshift 17:44 * PenguinDad uses Redshift as Blueshift 17:44 * Jordach sometimes gets light induced headaches / migraines 17:45 Krock Down by the river - down by the river. 17:45 Krock Hello people 17:45 FourFire ... and into the river we dive... 17:45 shadowzone "There must be something in the water"? 17:46 PenguinDad I don't know why it would shiver. *doesntknowlyrics* 17:47 Calinou rubenwardy, http://images.wikia.com/mlpfanart/images/4/41/Rainbow_Dash_haters_gonna_hate.gif 17:48 Calinou Jordach, just make your room not dark… 17:48 Calinou lower screen brightness 17:48 Jordach Calinou, woke up looked straight at the damn sun: instant headache 17:50 iqualfragile_ Jordach: why not redshift? 17:50 shadowzone Wow 17:50 iqualfragile_ shadowzone: ? 17:50 shadowzone Jordach: I am sorry man, that has to suck. 17:54 FourFire I use f.lux 17:59 iqualfragile_ but thats not open source 18:12 Calinou f.lux isn't, Redshift is 18:12 Calinou but I don't think Redshift exists for Windows 18:42 Calinou rubenwardy, https://lut.im/MZ3F7DcA/VmXJxPzC 18:42 rubenwardy Wow 18:43 Calinou has lots of skins 18:43 Calinou /skins for list, /skin name to see name 18:43 Calinou (a few don't work or have missing texture) 19:33 Calinou http://lichess.org/iQadZRKB → chess, first one to click plays 19:33 Calinou rubenwardy, ^ 19:33 rubenwardy Busy 19:33 rubenwardy ==^_^== 19:42 rubenwardy How do I do s/one/two if one or two contains / ? 19:46 VanessaE rubenwardy: s:one:two: 19:46 VanessaE use colons or any other viable symbol instead of a slash. 19:46 VanessaE or you can escape the slash 19:47 y I like to use |, but you can use anything you like 19:47 y / is just the "mainstream" separator :P 19:48 rubenwardy Ah 19:48 rubenwardy Wrong syntax 19:48 rubenwardy instead of doing grep -rl scripts/lib . | xargs sed -i 's:scripts/lib:../../assets:g' 19:48 rubenwardy I did grep -rl * . | xargs sed -i 's:scripts/lib:../../assets:g' 19:53 rubenwardy I was reorganising this: http://rubenwardy.github.io/physics_simulation_kit/ 20:27 Fritigern !up Pacata 20:27 MinetestBot Fritigern: Invalid Address 20:27 Fritigern !up 67.170.30.149:30000 20:27 MinetestBot Fritigern: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 20:27 Fritigern !up 67.170.30.149 30000 20:27 MinetestBot 67.170.30.149:30000 is up (167ms) 20:28 Fritigern Now tell me, MinetestBot, what is invalid about my address? 20:30 Fritigern !up RandomBunchOfWords 20:30 MinetestBot Fritigern: Invalid Address 20:30 Fritigern Ah, i see 20:31 Fritigern If MTB were my bot, i would have rephrades that as "not in list" 20:32 Fritigern or "unknown server" 20:33 sfan5 Fritigern: !up only works with IPs 20:33 Fritigern !server Pacata 20:33 sfan5 it has noting to do with the list 20:33 MinetestBot Fritigern: No results 20:33 Fritigern Well, i just did what Vanessa did :-) 20:34 Fritigern Not knowing that it was wrong, of course :-) 20:37 * sfan5 gives cities a city 20:41 Fritigern How can i find out if my server announces the corrrect/correctly formatted info to the server list or not? I mean, is there a debug setting to make it visible, or a tool that i can install? 20:42 sfan5 just check the server list 20:42 sfan5 also there is no reason why it would not announce correctly formatted data 20:42 sfan5 if the JSON is invalid the announce is ignored by the server list 20:43 Fritigern So, changes are that the JSON is invalid then 20:43 Fritigern *chances 20:43 sfan5 maybe 20:46 Fritigern But if the JSON turns out to be indeed invalid, then the next question would be "what made it suddenly invalid in g96fcca4?" 20:46 sfan5 from which IP do you announce? 20:47 sfan5 does your server have IPv6? 20:47 sfan5 a quick grep for your IP turns up nothing 20:47 Fritigern 67.170.30.149, and v6 is off 20:48 sfan5 nothing 20:48 sfan5 can you ping servers.minetest.net? 20:48 Fritigern Heck, i can pull up the page just fin, but i will ping it 20:49 Fritigern I get a nice and consistent "64 bytes from meow.minetest.net (212.38.181.18): icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=173 ms" 20:50 sfan5 mhm 20:51 sfan5 Fritigern: run "curl servers.minetest.net/test" please 20:52 sfan5 2601:8:a900:824:e0a9:dbb8:7186:c9ba - - [06/Nov/2014:20:52:07 +0000] "GET /test HTTP/1.1" 404 233 "-" "curl/7.37.1" "-" 20:52 sfan5 you said v6 was off 20:52 Fritigern It returned an XML formatted 404 20:52 sfan5 thats expected 20:52 sfan5 what we just found out is that IPv6 is actually enabled 20:53 sfan5 2601:8:a900:824:e0a9:dbb8:7186:c9ba - - [06/Nov/2014:20:50:39 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10-174-g96fcca4-dirty (Linux/3.16.0-24-generic x86_64)" "-" 20:53 Fritigern Well crap. Now why would it use v6 when i disable that in the config? 20:53 sfan5 status code 202 means it announced successfully 20:54 sfan5 Fritigern: since when is it broken? 20:54 sfan5 actually 20:55 sfan5 Fritigern: do you have "server_address" set? 20:55 Fritigern It broke since g96fcca4, and yes i do 20:55 sfan5 what is it set to? 20:55 Fritigern server_url = http://67.170.30.149/ 20:55 sfan5 it probably isn't related to any commit 20:55 sfan5 no 20:55 Fritigern server_address = 67.170.30.149 20:55 sfan5 server_address 20:55 Fritigern Sorry 20:55 sfan5 remove that 20:55 Fritigern Give me time to correct my mistakes, man :-) 20:56 Fritigern Okay, so i commented it out. What do i do now? 20:56 sfan5 restart the server 20:57 Fritigern Here we go! 20:57 sfan5 status code 202 20:57 sfan5 !server Pacata 20:57 MinetestBot sfan5: No results 20:57 sfan5 hm 20:57 sfan5 mhm 20:57 sfan5 I'm pretty sure I know what went wrong 20:58 sfan5 the problem is that the server list wants you to announce from the address you host the server 20:58 sfan5 and 2601:8:a900:824:e0a9:dbb8:7186:c9ba is not the same as 67.170.30.149 20:58 sfan5 so you need to: 20:58 sfan5 either 20:58 sfan5 1) set bind_address to 67.170.30.149 20:58 sfan5 or 20:59 sfan5 2) get a (sub)domain that resolves to both your v6 and v4 (aka. both the addr you use for the http request and the addr the server is hosted at) 20:59 sfan5 ^ Fritigern 20:59 Fritigern I'm trying bind_address for now 20:59 sfan5 tell me when it restarted 21:00 Jordach HD on demand TV 21:00 * Jordach drools at 4k support 21:00 * sfan5 slaps Jordach with bandwidth 21:01 Jordach 8mps can handle it 21:01 sfan5 do you even quality 21:01 sfan5 8mbps will suck for 2160p 21:01 Jordach for some reason BBC steaming appears to work fine 21:01 Fritigern sfan5: It keeps failing to bind to the socket. minetestserver is not in the process list. Will restart now 21:10 Fritigern sfan5: This is interesting: http://pastebin.com/8Ejvk7tt 21:11 sfan5 you are behind a NAT, right? 21:11 sfan5 in that case this won't work 21:11 sfan5 and you have to use 2) 21:13 Fritigern Now, the big question is still "why did it stop working?" 21:13 Fritigern Because it definitely worked before g96fcca4 21:17 Fritigern It does need noting that i have skipped a few builds. The build that i used before g96fcca4 was one or two weeks old. 21:25 sfan5 Fritigern: probably because IPv6 was not used for some reason 21:26 Fritigern sfan5: Could the issue be traced back to commit 209c0dd1af7b1b26fbaa4bc36e8c57f755fb222b ? 21:26 sfan5 fatal: bad object 209c0dd1af7b1b26fbaa4bc36e8c57f755fb222b 21:26 sfan5 does that commit exist 21:27 sfan5 ah 21:27 sfan5 there it is 21:27 Fritigern Sorry, try 209c0dd 21:27 sfan5 Fritigern: possibly 21:27 sfan5 those hashes are the same 21:29 Fritigern Now, i am trying to remember how to go back to a certain commit in git so i can compile an earlier version. 21:29 sfan5 git reset 21:29 Fritigern git reset ? 21:31 sfan5 not exactly 21:31 sfan5 git reset --hard 21:31 Fritigern Okay, and that would be a long hash, correct? 21:32 sfan5 both work 21:33 Fritigern Okay, here goes. Going back to the commit before Zeno's IP v6 related commit 21:34 Salbei_ sfan5: if the ip (or domain) from http request is different than the server_adress the server isn't listed? 21:36 sfan5 Salbei_: if the IP of the HTTP request is not the server IP (or any of the A/AAAA records of the domain) the server isn't listed 21:36 Salbei_ ok now I know why im not listed 21:37 Salbei_ that is a problem for me 21:38 Salbei_ why don't only check the server_adress? 21:38 sfan5 thats what it does 21:40 Salbei_ no u said it check if server_adress is different of http request ip 21:40 Salbei_ it isn't listed 21:41 sfan5 yes 21:41 Fritigern sfan5: Did that perhaps change recently? 21:41 sfan5 do you mean I should compare server_address with server_address 21:41 sfan5 Fritigern: the IP check was re-enabled 19th sep 21:43 Fritigern Then what changed recently? My server was stil listed two weeks ago, and now it doesn't. I didn;t change stuff, so something else should have changed that messes with things. 21:44 sfan5 it's probably the IPv6 thing 21:44 sfan5 whatever 21:44 Salbei_ no i mean you shouldn't compare server_address parameter from server and server IP from http request 21:44 sfan5 I'll temporarily disable the check again 21:44 sfan5 Salbei_: but then everyone could pretend to be someone 21:45 Fritigern I reverted to before Zeno's ip v6 commit, and that didn;t help. Going back further 21:45 Salbei_ hum itsn't wrong 21:46 Fritigern sfan5: Were imposters a big problem? 21:46 sfan5 no 21:46 sfan5 but there is no reason to design something insecure just because nobody takes advantage of it 21:48 Salbei_ yes its right 21:49 Salbei_ but an another solution don't exists? like an kind of ping to the server_adress by ur script 21:49 Fritigern I went back to before Zeno's refactor, and i am listed again 21:50 Fritigern I am now at 0.4.10-167-g9e811a9 21:50 Salbei_ im listed too now 21:51 Fritigern And here i thought i found the commit that got me unlisted 21:55 Fritigern Well, the transsfer of ownership of Mojang to Microsoft is a fact now. Everything is signed and (final?) payment has been made. 22:04 Cylus So .... You're a waffle now? 22:17 twoelk mmh, waffles yumyum 22:40 Fritigern sfan5: the ipv6 thing still bothers me. Moreover, i tried a few sites which would report and/or convert my ip v6 and i am getting different results from each site. 22:56 Fritigern sfan5: What if you were to turn off v6 support on server.minetest.net? Would that not force all connections to be v4? In which case you would be able to reliablly use the checks again 23:27 Fritigern sfan5: I did a couple of tests, and IPv6 is very inconsistent, and can not be used to discover the IPv4 address as this short list shows: http://pastebin.com/bVV7EK6h 23:31 Fritigern In fact, if my IPv6 address is X, you may detect my IPv6 address as Y, which is what actually did happen :-) 23:52 NakedFury hello