Time Nick Message 01:49 Jordach ...i should build a sentry gun entitynode 03:16 Fritigern I am working on a GUI wrapper for minetestserver, using bash and Yad (a fork of Zenity). My problem is whether or not i should put it on the forum. 03:17 Fritigern At the moment, it only lives on my PC and as a gist on github. https://gist.github.com/Fritigern/7654e5115c64e87f5cea 03:33 Cylus Fritigern: Oooh, not a fan of the license. Any chance you could change it to CC BY-SA, as is used in other Minetest resources? 03:34 Fritigern Not a chance. I do not want my stuff to be used for commercial purposes. 03:36 Cylus Then I wouldn't post it. Minetest is a free software community, so -NC terms aren't a great contribution. I don't mean to be rude about that. 03:38 Fritigern I can not be okay with the chance of my non-commercial work, no matter how amateurish it may be, to be used for commercial purposes. It's just not right. It's like i give you a free drink and you go and sell the thing. If i wanted it to be commercially available, i would sell it myself. 03:39 Cylus Yet restricting commercialization means the drink was never free to begin with; it was only gratis. 03:39 Cylus If you don't want your work sold, that's fine. 03:40 Cylus But the simple fact is, one of the great thing about Minetest and most Minetest things is that they *can* be sold. 03:41 Cylus I think the Minetest forum actually requires works be free (including allowing commercialization) in at least the mod subforum. 04:17 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Check minetest.hud_change() parameters on conversion (Fix #1714) 1303f3f95 http://git.io/W7jPhg (152014-10-30T00:12:12-04:00) 06:31 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: mapgen: Resolve nodes in ctor rather than makeChunk 136b43077 http://git.io/JNVRrA (152014-10-30T02:29:37-04:00) 06:54 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix uninitialized variable warning 13f0ae2da http://git.io/ojcVMA (152014-10-30T02:53:20-04:00) 07:29 HockeyTeeth any mods for ShadowNinja's server on here? 10:43 kaeza mornings 10:48 LazyJ G'mornin' ;) 12:10 Megaf_ Hi all 12:21 LazyJ 12:21 LazyJ o/ Megaf_ 13:46 lisacvuk hi, i have a problem, minetest fails to start 13:46 lisacvuk http://pastie.org/9685500 13:47 Zeno` lisacvuk, can you update to the latest version? 13:47 lisacvuk i did 13:47 Zeno` that was a temporary (1 hour) bug 13:47 Zeno` how did you update? 13:47 lisacvuk muon updater 13:47 lisacvuk i will check now for updates 13:48 PenguinDad lisacvuk: try starting minetest with --disable-unittests 13:49 lisacvuk ok 13:49 VanessaE no, update instead. 13:49 Zeno` PenguinDad, I dunno... things will be strange 13:49 Zeno` the unit tests are correctly failing 13:49 lisacvuk ok, there is an update 13:50 lisacvuk installed it 13:50 PenguinDad Zeno`: will kittens die? 13:50 Zeno` PenguinDad, maybe 13:50 Zeno` And we can't have that :( 13:51 lisacvuk works, thanks! 13:51 PenguinDad Of course I didn't want to risk that kittens die :( 13:51 Zeno` PenguinDad, it also may have damaged... Penguins! 13:52 VanessaE or opened wormholes into other quadrants 13:52 Zeno` yeah those as well 13:53 Jordach mmmm new icons https://cdn.mediacru.sh/kVjkDNlw32DU.png 13:53 * Jordach modified another blender.svg 13:53 Zeno` and also accelerate global climate change and possibly cause thingies in the Oort cloud to change orbit on a collision course with Earth! 13:53 VanessaE NO! Not the OORT CLOUD! 13:54 Zeno` yes! 13:54 Zeno` the OORT CLOUD 13:54 VanessaE :D 13:54 PenguinDad VanessaE: Wormholes aren't that bad :P 13:55 VanessaE PenguinDad: even if they open in to the Delta quadrant? 13:56 Zeno` Seriously though 13:57 Zeno` You do know that the mass extinction of the dinosaurs was caused by --disable-unittests, right? 13:57 PenguinDad lol 13:58 VanessaE Zeno`: nonono. (weird guy from History channel) [ ALIENS ] 13:58 Zeno` yes, and the only way the ALIENS got here was... 13:58 Zeno` 'nuff said 13:58 VanessaE through a wormhole from the Delta Quadrant, like I told ya 13:58 Zeno` lol 13:58 PenguinDad *X-files theme begins to play* 13:58 VanessaE so...holy shit, you're right 13:59 Zeno` yep 13:59 VanessaE all my life.....it's.....all a lie... even the cake! 13:59 Zeno` it left a hole 13:59 ElectronLibre Zeno`, perhaps --disable-unittests will kill all the kittens in the universe, and all the nodes, and all the computers, so please, let's upgrade instead. 13:59 * Jordach starts to see /r/montageparodies appear in thin air 13:59 Zeno` ElectronLibre, great idea :) 13:59 Jordach what if dinosaurs were not kill 13:59 PenguinDad Wait did you see that? 14:00 Zeno` I did 14:00 Zeno` It was a Tyrannosaurus rex... walked down my corridor! 14:00 Zeno` aww crap... and I mean he made a very large crap 14:01 Zeno` like a giant bird poop on my floor. *sigh& 14:01 H-H-H craptastic! 14:01 PenguinDad Zeno`: what a shitty animal :D 14:01 Zeno` haha :P 14:01 Zeno` very nice pun :3 14:02 Zeno` I have 40 windows open! 14:02 * ElectronLibre gives Zeno` something to make that smell diseappear 14:02 * Zeno` starts to close some 14:02 iqualfragile i have 0 windowss open 14:02 Zeno` lol... not even a TTY? 14:03 VanessaE "But I gotta tell you, these things are real. Since I joined these men, I have seen shit that'll turn you WHITE!" 14:03 iqualfragile does anybody here speak russian? 14:03 * ElectronLibre has got 5 TTYs open, 4 on the same directory, and only one doing something. ._. 14:03 Zeno` tmux ftw 14:03 iqualfragile *screen 14:03 Zeno` or that 14:04 Zeno` whatever floats ya boat 14:20 davedevils sorry , little question 14:20 davedevils minetest accept overlay ? 14:23 VanessaE overlay? 14:23 davedevils yeah use a texture gray and be colored by propriety 14:24 VanessaE there IS a colorize texture operator 14:24 VanessaE but it's probably not the same as you're thinking of. 14:25 VanessaE (and you can of course also overlay one texture on top of another, or any number of them; this is how dirt with grass is made) 14:26 davedevils i speak for make this http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Banner 14:26 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7159 14:27 VanessaE the same effect is possible but as you would see if you read the code, it requires defining a node for each color 14:27 davedevils yeah but no i want use overley with some texture (6) 14:27 VanessaE yeah, no. you can't do that yet. 14:27 davedevils >.< 14:28 VanessaE you'll have to define a node for each color or material you plan to use. 14:28 davedevils omg >.< 14:28 VanessaE there have been proposals to solve at least the color issue, but those made by the core devs suck. 14:28 davedevils this is very fat 14:29 davedevils yeah i have see >.< devs core make some mistack and sh*** 14:29 VanessaE no, it's not that. 14:30 davedevils look they no have fix disable_jump >.< 14:31 VanessaE I can't speak to that. 14:32 davedevils yeah just i same in global ... dev core are slow or make some sh*** 14:32 davedevils it's same* 14:33 VanessaE I wouldn't go so far as to say that. 14:33 VanessaE most of the core devs just have too much other shit to do 14:33 VanessaE some are busy working on whatever part of the engine best suits them. 14:35 davedevils yeah i understend - i'm dev c++ irl - but work like microsoft (if you have flat tire , you need fix that ... not take the road) 14:35 VanessaE the problem is that sometimes they don't give enough credence to how players and modders actually use the engine. 14:36 davedevils i think he need to see all tickets , not make they he want >.< 14:36 VanessaE davedevils: to be perfectly honest, Microsoft has a history of doing precisely what you say they wouldn't (remove the road instead of fixing the tire). but I get the point. 14:36 VanessaE there's an old joke that if Microsoft engineers were responsible for fixing a burnt-out light bulb, they'd just declare darkness to be a new standard instead. 14:37 shadowzone VanessaE: I agree with you, and davedevils. 14:39 iqualfragile there is a old but still new joke that microsoft likes to copy network stacks und dislikes copying bug fixes of these network stacks 14:39 ElectronLibre That's not a joke, that's the truth x). 14:41 VanessaE either way your point is fair - yes Minetest engine has problems, and sometimes core devs focus on things that, frankly, don't affect 99% of gameplay. 14:41 VanessaE but that's the nature of open source. 14:41 davedevils just i'm new in minetest (2 month) but OMG the engine is not maked for dev lua or player ... only for dev c++ play ? >.< ... i make a fork (another again ) if run in same way 14:41 VanessaE each person scratches their own itch 14:42 iqualfragile python interface would be fantastic 14:42 davedevils (not now i no have time i just make minetest for fun not for a second work 14:42 VanessaE a few folks like RealBadAngel are focusing on stuff that directly faces the end user and therefore affects gameplay in some manner 14:42 VanessaE davedevils: no one here is paid to work on Minetest. 14:43 Zeno` hmm 14:43 davedevils yeah i know but i say i no have time at the moment for work in minetest all time 14:43 VanessaE Zeno` has also :) 14:44 iqualfragile one problem is the speed that pull requests get merged with 14:44 iqualfragile which is like 5 a week 14:44 sfan5 it has been worse in the pastr 14:44 sfan5 -r 14:44 davedevils more for disable_jump >.< 14:44 iqualfragile sfan5: i know, im around since c55 gave up developing 14:44 sfan5 iqualfragile: I'm also around since roughly that time 14:45 VanessaE iqualfragile: he didn't give up, he sold out :P 14:45 iqualfragile VanessaE: right, sold to pilzadam 14:45 VanessaE iqualfragile: buildat. yet another voxel engine. 14:45 iqualfragile yeah, was here when he announced it 14:46 davedevils https://github.com/celeron55/buildat 14:46 diemartin yes, but when c55 "left", he was alone merging stuff. we now have 10 core devs or so 14:46 diemartin (half of which are MIA, BTW) 14:46 iqualfragile diemartin: 10 core devs that all hope the others do the testing 14:46 VanessaE diemartin: and it makes me rather angry at him - he can't find time or energy to contribute to minetest anymore, yet he's got time to start over? fuck that. 14:47 VanessaE I understand if he has a real life. we all do. 14:47 sfan5 that minetest-services thing has no real life ;) 14:48 VanessaE I refuse to accept the notion that some of that time should be dedicated to what is effectively a competing engine, when he's gonna just sit around here telling us he "doesn't care", can't be bothered, etc etc etc. and yet won't give up whatever bit of control he still has., 14:48 diemartin VanessaE, my point is, half of the core devs are not really "active", while the folks that are really active ATM don't have a say in anything 14:48 Zeno` I'm not really sure he should be the subsystem maintainer for Client/Audiovisuals 14:48 VanessaE diemartin: indeed. 14:48 davedevils https://github.com/celeron55/buildat/blob/master/LICENSE 14:48 davedevils yeah but see that ;) 14:49 Zeno` what about it? 14:49 davedevils not same licence of minetest 14:50 VanessaE davedevils: it's not a fork, why would it have the same license? 14:50 davedevils i know 14:50 davedevils but if you look at the difference of the licence 14:51 iqualfragile VanessaE: i don't really see him controlling too much 14:51 iqualfragile Zeno`: iirc he is ok with giving that up 14:51 VanessaE iqualfragile: he blocks Client A/V stuff if he doesn't like what's there. 14:51 iqualfragile ah, have never seen that, sorry 14:51 Zeno` He's stopping pull requests because he is the maintainer of the subsystem 14:51 davedevils apache licence can use other code licence 14:51 VanessaE and he claims the right to block WHO will take over Client A/V maint also 14:52 Zeno` And he doesn't look at the pull requests, so... I dunno 14:52 Zeno` they just sit there and rot 14:54 davedevils another question : with meshnode you can use animated node ? 14:55 VanessaE not yet 14:55 VanessaE coming soon 14:55 davedevils like make a fake wind effect 14:55 VanessaE but you can animate the textures. 14:55 davedevils yeah i know i animate texture allready 14:55 VanessaE you cannot animate the mesh itself yet 14:55 VanessaE that'll be soon though 14:55 davedevils yeah but with novembre release ? 14:56 VanessaE maybe, dunno 14:56 davedevils (the next) 14:56 iqualfragile not likely 14:56 VanessaE iqualfragile: don't be so sure 14:56 davedevils 4.11 or 5.0 (i dont know if they can say 5.0 because not very fat custom) 14:56 * Zeno` wanders off to watch tv... idling 14:56 VanessaE RealBadAngel: what about it? 14:56 VanessaE davedevils: 0.4.11 it anything 14:56 iqualfragile davedevils: its 0.4.11 14:56 VanessaE 0.5.0 is not coming out any time soon 14:57 VanessaE 0.5.0 will be a "if we will eventually have to break it, do it here" release. 14:57 davedevils maybe if they rewirte packet system 14:57 davedevils lol 14:58 Zeno` if it's truly semantic versioning (http://semver.org/) then a 0.5.0 release could not break backward compatibility 14:59 iqualfragile Zeno`: its not, we are still <1.0 14:59 iqualfragile it could in theory be broken any time 14:59 davedevils false , a major version can break backward compatibility 14:59 iqualfragile davedevils: what is wrong with "packet" system? 14:59 Zeno` iqualfragile, not as defined by http://semver.org/ 15:00 iqualfragile Zeno`: again, we are <1.0 15:00 sfan5 !tell rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=160356#p160356 0.4.12 -> 0.4.11 ?? 15:00 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when rubenwardy is around 15:00 Zeno` iqualfragile, that matters? 15:00 Amaz sfan5, I noticed that :P 15:00 iqualfragile Zeno`: absolutely, sub 1 are not final releases, but betas/alphas 15:00 iqualfragile therefore they don't usually guarantee any kind of stability 15:01 davedevils iqualfragile : not very secure ,and maybe can be better 15:01 Zeno` It probably should be bumped to version 1 at some point then 15:01 Amaz No no no! 15:01 Amaz Not ready for that yet... 15:01 sfan5 just a reminder that we are not using a strict semver system 15:01 iqualfragile davedevils: "maybe can be better" "not very secure"? please elaborate 15:01 Zeno` It'll never be "ready" lol 15:01 Amaz Zeno`, probably :P 15:02 iqualfragile additionally the minetest api already is quite stable 15:02 davedevils iqualfragile : too long to show you at the moment 15:03 iqualfragile davedevils: write it up, leave on some minetest-related bugtracker or wiki and link me 15:05 davedevils iqualfragile : i have begin to write up some custom (like mysql/sqlite switch in config for using it in lua ) and make some test for see what is better or not , maybe release all result if i'm not degusting about minetest before 15:07 sfan5 davedevils: Minetest supports multiple database backends, see database.h and database-redis.cpp as an example 15:08 davedevils yeah but not like i want 15:08 iqualfragile sfan5: can i haz /dev/null? 15:08 sfan5 now how you want? 15:08 sfan5 iqualfragile: http://devnull-as-a-service.com/ 15:09 davedevils now , just test for see what is more better for all way ( hack protect , speed , devhelper ....) 15:17 davedevils but sfan5 --> i think try to make other chance with mysql , with MyISAM and asynchronize save ( save only 60seconde only moved block and all block moved in ram before set all in mysql and clean) 15:20 davedevils but it's only for test at the moment 15:26 iqualfragile leguin and asimov hate me 15:31 iqualfragile proller: do you speak russian? 15:34 coagen iqualfragile: he does 15:35 iqualfragile does anybody else, i just need a sentence translated 15:35 coagen iqualfragile: i speak very basic russian... 15:35 iqualfragile https://i.imgur.com/m7YG0YK.jpg 15:36 coagen I'm going ___ walk on dick 15:36 coagen the third word 15:36 coagen i'm not sure about 15:36 coagen 1 sec 15:38 coagen I'm going for a walk on the middle dick 15:38 coagen weird 15:38 coagen let me double check with a native speaker I know 15:40 coagen iqualfragile: they are not available right now.. I'll check later, but thats all I have atm 15:40 iqualfragile middle lane? 15:40 coagen clearly 15:40 coagen in the commic 15:41 coagen but xyn is dick 15:41 coagen pronounced hu-ey 15:41 iqualfragile ok 15:42 coagen maybe better translated was "i'm going to the middle, went on a dick" 15:42 coagen well 15:43 coagen thats terrible too 15:43 coagen i can tell you more about the context 15:43 coagen but lets stop doing it here 15:43 coagen pm me if you want more info 15:44 iqualfragile coagen: thank you 16:09 sol_invictus lol'd at coagen's translation :D 16:10 Cyanberry which was? 16:10 * Cyanberry missed it 16:11 sol_invictus it was like 30 minutes ago 16:11 Cyanberry my ZNC crashed so I didn't se it 16:11 PenguinDad Cyanberry: maybe better translated was "i'm going to the middle, went on a dick" 16:12 Cyanberry lol 16:13 sol_invictus okay, I'm bored so i'll translate 16:14 * Cyanberry is going to go play some xonotic 16:14 * PenguinDad has to think about the "Hard Di*k Drive" now 16:14 Cyanberry lol 16:14 Cyanberry Atomicon always says that 16:15 Cyanberry idk if on purpose 16:15 sol_invictus "I'm going to mid lane, f**k you" 16:15 Cyanberry what are we transtaling? 16:16 Cyanberry lol 16:16 Cyanberry transtaling 16:16 Cyanberry XD 16:16 Cyanberry also 16:16 Zeno` it said "f**k"? 16:17 Zeno` that's naughty but I am glad the comic censored it 16:17 PenguinDad lol 16:17 sol_invictus no it's not censored 16:17 coagen sol_invictus: thats much better, thx 16:18 sol_invictus also it looks like the author of the comics used a translator 16:22 Zeno` cunning 16:27 * sfan5 paws Zeno` 16:27 Zeno` I am now a cat scratching pole? :-o 16:28 VanessaE sfan5: my cat does the coolest thing, wave your hand at her and she'll place her paw on it :) 16:28 sfan5 can you mail me your cat 16:28 Zeno` VanessaE, is your cat a Jedi? 16:28 sfan5 ? 16:28 VanessaE Zeno`: no :) 16:28 VanessaE this is not the cat you're looking for. 16:28 Zeno` lol 16:29 sfan5 VanessaE: can you mail me your cat? 16:30 VanessaE no :) 16:30 eeeeeta yay minetest 16:30 VanessaE hi eeeeeta 16:30 sfan5 why not 16:30 sfan5 I want a cat 16:30 eeeeeta I took the jdukebox mod from BFD and added my own .oggs :D 16:30 VanessaE sfan5: because she's all mine :) 16:30 sfan5 hm 16:30 sfan5 VanessaE: can you fax me a copy? 16:30 VanessaE sfan5: besides, the dog needs someone to terrorize :) 16:30 PenguinDad We need to find a way to clone the cat :P 16:31 VanessaE nope, don't have a fax :) 16:31 * eeeeeta throws his cat at sfan5 16:31 * sfan5 cats 16:31 eeeeeta cat (v) - to become one with the mindfulness of felines 16:31 sfan5 !g urbandictionary definiton "cat" 16:31 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cat 16:31 VanessaE sfan5: but I can send you a photo :) https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/v/t1.0-9/1185104_10151788875469840_1871960006_n.jpg?oh=86872e050a7ecdce122b98af0daa3012&oe=54DE6BF1&__gda__=1425013637_ad5e10ac44a3fb8f4f6fc875ec98bfdd 16:32 sfan5 VanessaE: !tell your_cat meow 16:32 ElectronLibre A cat on an umbrella *-* 16:32 Zeno` sfan5, here you go: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VdQKlLcY1Rc/UZ5b4-m1i3I/AAAAAAAAASw/f9CK9qONCRk/s1600/ALF+Cat_sandwich.jpg 16:32 eeeeeta sfan5: $ wth is cat 16:33 eeeeeta cat The definitive pet. 16:33 eeeeeta (etc) 16:33 Zeno` nom nom nom 16:33 VanessaE sfan5: here's another of her: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10302094_10152746876699840_2982362483262194699_n.jpg?oh=f2286df11f433d2e6b9be2f31b16740a&oe=54F589BC&__gda__=1425013699_3ba39837e8226710b8f0bfd5b169e2b7 16:33 sfan5 hm 16:33 Zeno` VanessaE, that looks just like Lucky! 16:33 sfan5 can't I theoretically google that number on your cats thingy and find out where you live? 16:33 sfan5 hm 16:33 * sfan5 meows 16:33 VanessaE sfan5: I don't care :P 16:33 sfan5 oh I see 16:34 * sfan5 mrows at VanessaE's cat 16:34 Zeno` VanessaE, http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2012/06/alf1.jpg 16:34 eeeeeta question: is the discussion here mostly about cats, or do you actually talk about minetest? 16:34 VanessaE and besides, it's a prepaid cell phone, so no you can't :) 16:34 Zeno` no we only talk about cats 16:34 ElectronLibre eeeeeta, we sometimes can speak about something other than minetest. 16:34 sfan5 VanessaE: you don't have cat registration numbers? 16:34 sfan5 or pet 16:34 sfan5 whatever 16:35 eeeeeta microchips! 16:35 sfan5 all dogs here have a number 16:35 VanessaE sfan5: sure on her paperwork in the file box...somewhere 16:35 sfan5 on their 16:35 eeeeeta sfan5: "collar"? 16:35 VanessaE her collar/tag 16:35 sfan5 ^ 16:35 VanessaE and no, the cats don't wear theirs. 16:35 VanessaE the dogs tag is on his though 16:35 * eeeeeta guesses that English isn't sfan5's first language 16:36 sfan5 VanessaE: something like this, http://www.reckmann.org/wp-content/20110716-030749-e1310843140619.jpg 16:36 * sfan5 tells eeeeeta that he guessed right 16:36 * eeeeeta yay 16:36 Zeno` sfan5, how did you get that photo of my collar? 16:36 sfan5 Zeno`: google 16:36 VanessaE sfan5: yeah, there's something like that here, for rabies vaccines, but my cats' tags don't have that (the ones that do, are stored away) 16:36 * eeeeeta is now listening to "The Energetic Rat (Jordach's Mix)" in-game 16:37 eeeeeta such a strange title 16:37 Zeno` heh 16:37 Zeno` night all 16:37 * sfan5 is now listening to "nomico - Bad Apple!!" not in-game 16:38 eeeeeta How to get banned from every IRC server ever: 16:38 * eeeeeta is now away: Auto-away after 30 minutes 16:39 Cyanberry ye 16:39 PenguinDad eeeeeta: stop pinging away :P 16:39 eeeeeta away: please 16:40 eeeeeta what the heck is a "Trooper"? 16:40 eeeeeta It randomly attacked me 16:40 * sfan5 bites PenguinDad 16:41 PenguinDad ouch! 16:41 * sfan5 bites PenguinDad's cat 16:41 PenguinDad eeeeeta: Some human looking mob from carbone 16:41 Cyanberry why is a cat biting a cat? 16:41 eeeeeta Cyanberry: my cats fight often 16:41 PenguinDad sfan5: I don't have a cat :( 16:41 * sfan5 bites PenguinDad's dog 16:41 eeeeeta PenguinDad: :( it's not very nice 16:42 PenguinDad I don't have dog either 16:42 Cyanberry eeeeeta: complain to Calinou 16:42 PenguinDad I have no pets at all :( 16:42 * sfan5 bites PenguinDad's face 16:42 VanessaE eeeeeta: a new surface MOB. 16:42 * PenguinDad throws a <°((((((-< at sfan5 16:43 * sfan5 gets hit by the <°((((((-< 16:43 * sfan5 falls to the ground 16:43 * sfan5 dead cat 16:44 PenguinDad damn that refactor_theÄgame branch is slow 16:44 PenguinDad s/Ä/_/ 16:45 Cyanberry /_/ 16:46 VanessaE zeno will kick your ass for that. 16:47 VanessaE :) 16:47 Cyanberry VanessaE: I don't think PenguinDad has a donkey 16:47 Cyanberry :P 16:47 VanessaE then hell kick his penguin 16:48 VanessaE and I'm pretty sure he's got one of those. :P 16:48 VanessaE he'll* 16:48 PenguinDad lel 16:49 Cyanberry PenguinDad: any new music around? 16:49 * sfan5 purrs at VanessaE 16:49 sfan5 !tw 16:49 MinetestBot sfan5: Give me a link, a @username, or a tweet id 16:50 sfan5 ouch! 16:50 sfan5 * sfan5 bites PenguinDad's cat 16:50 sfan5 eeeeeta: Some human looking mob from carbone 16:50 sfan5 why is a cat biting a cat? 16:50 eeeeeta sfan5: wat 16:50 eeeeeta Calinouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 16:50 sfan5 hexchat keeps copying stuff I select to my clipboard 16:50 eeeeeta a carbone Trooper killed me :( 16:51 sfan5 !tw https://twitter.com/osxreverser/status/527864900765622272 16:51 MinetestBot Always fascinated by cat's attraction for small boxes. (@osxreverser) 16:51 Calinou hi 16:51 Cyanberry !tw @realtinymonster 16:51 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from https://twitter.com/realtinymonster?1414687878.8409722 (@realtinymonster) 16:51 Cyanberry : 16:51 sfan5 !tw it currently partly broken 16:51 MinetestBot sfan5: Give me a link, a @username, or a tweet id 16:51 Cyanberry :| 16:51 Cyanberry oh 16:51 Cyanberry why? 16:51 sfan5 because code 16:52 Cyanberry because chode! 16:52 Calinou hi Cyanberry 16:52 Cyanberry jkjk 16:52 sfan5 actually because I can't get python's urllib to give me the URL it was redirected to on a 302 16:52 Calinou a carbone Trooper killed me :( 16:52 Calinou heh 16:52 Calinou did you think it was a real player? :P 16:52 eeeeeta Calinou: yes 16:52 eeeeeta Calinou: I was like "WTF CHECK THE NETWERKS" 16:53 PenguinDad Cyanberry: Shoeboxstep https://soundcloud.com/mid-tempo/trollphace-twine-dat-shoebox-doe :P 16:53 eeeeeta Calinou: then I picked it up and put it back down, thinking it would tame it 16:53 eeeeeta Calinou: it killed me again :( 16:54 Calinou nope, they're still offensive to all players 16:54 eeeeeta :( 16:54 eeeeeta brb 17:04 Yellowberry Calinou: I didn't know you played Xonotic 17:04 * Yellowberry learns something new every day 17:05 Yellowberry Hi Cylus! 17:05 Cylus Hey Yellowberry! 17:06 Yellowberry How's it rolling? 17:07 Calinou Yellowberry, on Lichess look at my Three-Check rating :P 17:07 Cylus My arm is having issues and Freenode keeps booting me. Furthermore, I'm having problems getting my Android development environment working. I did manage to get Shallot compiled and running finally though, so it's not all bad. 17:08 freelikegnu those troopers are scary 17:10 * PenguinDad hugs sfan5 17:11 * sfan5 licks PenguinDad 17:12 freelikegnu are tree trunks with a falling property a bad idea? 17:13 Cylus Depends on your style. Some players would like it, especially for jungle tree trunks. Others wouldn't like it, as they would want to build out of trunks, and falling would make that harder. 17:14 Calinou falling trees are silly 17:14 Calinou non-colliding leaves make sense 17:14 Cylus Because of the building issue, I would lean away from falling trunks. 17:14 freelikegnu hmm well say harvesting a falling tree trunk gave you a non-falling tree trunk block 17:14 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10504 17:14 Calinou oh-an-UI-rant 17:14 Cylus freelikegnu: In that case, it would probably be fine. 17:15 Cylus Calinou: What do mean by "non-colliding" leaves? 17:15 freelikegnu hovering trees bother me, I get that from my mothers side 17:15 freelikegnu you can walk through leaves 17:15 Cylus OH! That would be cool. 17:15 Cylus I might have to add that to my game. 17:16 * sfan5 licks Yellowberry 17:16 Cylus Non-colliding and maybe climbable. 17:16 freelikegnu trees should be climbable 17:16 Yellowberry sfan5: Bananas don't taste good when you like them 17:17 Cylus They can't be climbable without making it possible to walk through them. Engine limitation. And walking through trunks would be kind of silly. 17:18 freelikegnu also have to learn how the tree growing wolrks so I can have things like gnarly juniper trees 17:18 Calinou walkable = false 17:18 Calinou it is the default in Carbone 17:19 Calinou climbable leaves is weird 17:19 Calinou you climb them as if they were ladders 17:19 Calinou I'd rather see viscous leaves 17:19 Calinou (slows you down while in them) 17:19 freelikegnu like water 17:19 freelikegnu makes sense 17:20 VanessaE Calinou: there's a post in the homedecor thread that offered to do the same for cobwebs 17:20 freelikegnu is something like a teleport node to another node possible in lua? 17:20 VanessaE I didn't use it, but it might be of use to you for the leaves 17:21 Calinou teleporting a player? 17:21 freelikegnu yes 17:22 freelikegnu like a player steps on this node and it teleports to a companion node 17:22 freelikegnu ala portal 17:23 Cylus Calinou: I'd love to see viscous leaves, but I think the engine would only allow that if the leaves were a liquid, which presents other issues. 17:23 Yellowberry Calinou: Viscous leave + Climbable logs? 17:23 freelikegnu falling leaves would look cool 17:24 Yellowberry it would also lag 17:24 freelikegnu aye 17:25 Cylus With falling leaves, trees would generate normally, but as soon as you touch a leaf or a trunk near a leaf, all the tree's leaves would drop off. 17:26 Calinou climbable logs make zero sense 17:26 Calinou leaves already “fall” somehow… they decay 17:26 Calinou instant leaf decay is possible 17:26 Calinou change ABM chance to 1 17:26 Yellowberry Calinou: why? people climb trees... 17:27 Yellowberry hi zlsa 17:29 Calinou then you should be able to climb all blocks by definition 17:29 Calinou also you can't climb walkable nodes 17:29 Yellowberry why? 17:29 Yellowberry that is silly 17:32 freelikegnu beats jumping imho 17:33 freelikegnu but it could be complimentary to jumping, climbing would be slower 17:40 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=10502 17:40 Calinou whoa, 9 vs 4 for glasses 17:40 * Calinou uses “No”… 17:43 PenguinDad Calinou: 12 vs 4 now 17:44 davedevils sexy i have crash minetest with on_construct = function(pos,node) if not check_attached_node_fdir(pos, node) then minetest.dig_node(pos) end end, 17:46 freelikegnu so psycho acoustic minetest mod? 17:47 davedevils no my own mod 17:48 freelikegnu for the the visually impaired.. node on cursorpings audio based on material and distance from player 17:49 freelikegnu positional audio cues 17:49 Yellowberry yeah 17:49 Yellowberry its too bad it crashes 17:50 * freelikegnu does not wear glasses 17:50 davedevils update = function(pos,node) if not check_attached_node(pos, node) then minetest.dig_node(pos) end end, --> crash too >.< 17:50 freelikegnu my wife started having vision issues after having kids, but she only wore glasses for a short time before getting lasik 17:50 freelikegnu I though she looked hot with glasses though 17:50 Yellowberry lol 17:51 freelikegnu she hated wearing them :< 17:53 kilbith femme à lunettes... 17:53 Yellowberry kilbith: hmm? 17:54 freelikegnu little moons are glasses in french D: 17:54 PenguinDad Women with glasses... 17:54 freelikegnu :D 17:54 kilbith only the french can understand 17:54 PenguinDad *Woman 17:54 kilbith even translated 17:54 freelikegnu that is cute 17:55 freelikegnu sailor moon should have worn spectales 17:55 Yellowberry :P 17:57 freelikegnu hmm why does using a pickaxes to harves a mesecon block kill me? 17:57 VanessaE because it's probably Meze 17:57 Calinou freelikegnu, maybe it is Meze 17:57 VanessaE not MEse 17:57 Calinou look at the S 17:57 Calinou if the S looks reversed, it's Meze 17:58 freelikegnu omg 17:58 Calinou (it doesn't kill if damage is disabled or creative mode is enabled) 17:58 freelikegnu dirty trick 17:58 VanessaE hahaha 17:58 Calinou Meze only spawns above sea level 17:58 Calinou unlike Mese which can spawn everywhere in stone in Carbone 17:58 VanessaE Calinou: maybe a slightly more obvious sign is needed :) 17:58 freelikegnu well now that I know it is funny 17:58 Calinou it's made to not be too obvious :P 17:58 Calinou you should be suspicious of all Mese found above sea level 17:59 Yellowberry which is y=64 right? 17:59 VanessaE 0 17:59 freelikegnu really words on a stone breaks the immersion, it looks like a placeholder texture rather than something in the gameworld 17:59 Yellowberry yet another differnce from MC 18:00 Yellowberry make it slightly red tinted 18:01 VanessaE freelikegnu: it isn't a stone. 18:01 VanessaE it's an artifact of alien origin 18:01 freelikegnu why not just use copper and gold to make circuits and components? 18:01 VanessaE freelikegnu: because copper and gold are relatively new additions to minetest. 18:01 VanessaE compared to mese 18:01 freelikegnu ah ok so aliens with a sick sense of humor 18:01 Yellowberry lol 18:01 VanessaE freelikegnu: Mese is an artifact. Meze is Calinou's creation :P 18:02 Yellowberry B) 18:03 VanessaE besides, copper IS used to make electrical cabling in Technic mod 18:04 * freelikegnu picks up his meze dust covered bones 18:04 PenguinDad Griefers love houses made of meze :P 18:05 freelikegnu anyone using a pickaxe on your house kinda asking for it 18:06 davedevils i need make water dig item *-* 18:06 Calinou Meze is 0-64 18:06 Calinou rare Mese is -1024-64 18:06 Calinou common Mese is -30000--1024 18:08 freelikegnu how come mice = plural mouse and rice != plural rat 18:09 Calinou lol 18:10 freelikegnu maybe mesecons are fossilized nyan cat scat 18:10 Krock -- = + 18:11 davedevils what Oo 18:11 VanessaE Krock: s/--/..-/ 18:11 Krock 1 - (-1) = 2 18:11 Krock !c 1-(-1) 18:11 MinetestBot 2 18:12 freelikegnu !c rat(2) 18:12 MinetestBot NameError: name 'rat' is not defined 18:12 freelikegnu !c $rat=1 18:12 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 18:13 Krock !c 'rat' == 'rice'? "yes" : "no" 18:13 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 18:13 davedevils !cat ? 18:13 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/ERebecg.jpg 18:13 Krock !c 'rat' == 'rice' 18:13 MinetestBot False 18:13 davedevils !hardcore 18:14 davedevils !c 3*3/3 18:14 MinetestBot 3.0 18:15 Krock !c 9**-5 18:15 MinetestBot 1.6935087808430286e-05 18:15 davedevils !c (3/3)*3 18:15 MinetestBot 3.0 18:15 davedevils ! 18:15 davedevils !c 3/3 18:15 MinetestBot 1.0 18:15 Krock ##minetestbot 18:15 Yellowberry !c __double__ 18:15 MinetestBot Yellowberry: Sorry, but no double underscores. 18:15 davedevils !help 18:15 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 18:15 Yellowberry hehe 18:16 davedevils !up lunyasoft.eu 30000 18:16 MinetestBot lunyasoft.eu:30000 seems to be down 18:16 PenguinDad !c "O_o_O " * 5 18:16 MinetestBot 'O_o_O O_o_O O_o_O O_o_O O_o_O ' 18:16 davedevils wtf Oo 18:16 Yellowberry !c "Oo"*10 18:16 MinetestBot 'OoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo' 18:17 Yellowberry lol 18:17 Yellowberry !c "Oo"*10+"O" 18:17 MinetestBot 'OoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO' 18:17 Krock !c "Yellowberry "*3.1 18:17 MinetestBot TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'float' 18:17 davedevils !c "ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£" * 500 18:17 MinetestBot 'ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚£ñP45½òM‼ò♦$╚╚ 18:17 Yellowberry lol 18:17 Yellowberry over 1024 chars 18:17 PenguinDad ^ eee​w 18:17 Yellowberry wait 18:18 Yellowberry no 18:18 Yellowberry 256? 18:18 Yellowberry i'm confuzzled 18:18 Yellowberry ' 18:18 Yellowberry I close it! 18:18 davedevils !c "import dbus sys_bus = dbus.SystemBus() hal_srvc = sys_bus.get_object('org.freedesktop.Hal', '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer') pwr_mgmt = dbus.Interface(hal_srvc, 'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.SystemPowerManagement') shutdown_method = pwr_mgmt.get_dbus_method("Shutdown") shutdown_method()" *1 18:18 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 18:19 davedevils not funny :( 18:19 Yellowberry !c "zazaza"*-1 18:19 MinetestBot '' 18:19 Yellowberry lol 18:19 Yellowberry !c "zazaza"*-9 18:19 MinetestBot '' 18:20 Yellowberry ” 18:20 freelikegnu I have a server up 18:20 Yellowberry ””” 18:20 Yellowberry ””””” 18:20 Yellowberry freelikegnu: minetest? 18:20 freelikegnu minetest plus carbone 18:21 Yellowberry y u no moontest?! 18:22 Calinou Moontest is 100 % Princess Luna-approved 18:22 zlsa !c import math 18:22 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 18:23 zlsa !c str(abs(-20)) * 10 18:23 MinetestBot '20202020202020202020' 18:23 zlsa !c str(math.abs(-20)) * 10 18:23 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'SomeObject' object has no attribute 'abs' 18:23 zlsa !c str(math.floor(-20)) * 10 18:23 MinetestBot '-20-20-20-20-20-20-20-20-20-20' 18:23 zlsa !c str(math.sin(math.pi)) * 10 18:23 MinetestBot '1.2246467991473532e-161.2246467991473532e-161.2246467991473532e-161.2246467991473532e-161.2246467991473532e-161.2246467991473532e-161.2246467991473532e-161.2246467991473532e-161.2246467991473532e-161.2246467991473532e-16' 18:23 zlsa !c dir(dbus) 18:23 MinetestBot NameError: name 'dir' is not defined 18:23 freelikegnu whatever floats your point 18:23 Yellowberry lol 18:24 * Yellowberry likes freelikegnu's sense of humor 18:25 freelikegnu thank you, I'll be lurking all week 18:26 Yellowberry woot 18:26 freelikegnu I must eat now, eating later has left me hungry 18:28 Fritigern !c math.pi 18:28 MinetestBot 3.141592653589793 18:28 Fritigern !c 355/113 18:28 MinetestBot 3.1415929203539825 18:29 Fritigern Eh, close enough 18:29 Yellowberry !c math.randint 18:29 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'SomeObject' object has no attribute 'randint' 18:29 Yellowberry sheet 18:29 Yellowberry am I just being stupid? 18:30 Yellowberry !c math.random 18:30 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'SomeObject' object has no attribute 'random' 18:30 Yellowberry yeah 18:30 Yellowberry !c exit() 18:30 MinetestBot NameError: name 'exit' is not defined 18:30 Yellowberry aw 18:30 PenguinDad !c random.randint(1, 6) 18:30 MinetestBot 6 18:31 Yellowberry yeah 18:31 Yellowberry I remembered that 18:31 Yellowberry also lol 18:31 Yellowberry !c random.randint(-1337,1337) 18:31 MinetestBot 1188 18:32 Yellowberry !c random.randint(-1337,1337)*math.pi+69/666 18:32 MinetestBot -1853.4360620143743 18:32 Yellowberry perfect seed generator 18:32 Yellowberry XDXD 18:32 Krock2 <3 bluescreens 18:32 Yellowberry haha 18:33 Yellowberry /nick Krock 18:33 Yellowberry oh 18:33 Krock :P 18:33 Krock - MemoServ: You have 1 new memo. 18:35 Fritigern Krock: Funny, my Linux never bluescreens ;-) 18:35 Fritigern (just teasing) 18:35 Krock Fritigern, it's a windows-only feature. 18:35 PenguinDad s/feature/bug/ :P 18:35 Fritigern Should i be jealous? :-) 18:35 Krock s/"s/feature/bug/"// 18:35 Krock Fritigern, yes 18:36 * Fritigern remembers the glorious days of Win95, and copy con con 18:36 Krock newer windows versions have a bluescreen too but the nice 0x00F background color disappeared 18:37 davedevils !c "how many time for make item broken by water ..." + random.randint(1,100) + " hour" 18:37 MinetestBot TypeError: Can't convert 'int' object to str implicitly 18:37 davedevils !c "how many time for make item broken by water ..." + random.rand(1,100) + " hour" 18:37 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'SomeObject' object has no attribute 'rand' 18:38 davedevils !c "how many time for make item broken by water ..." + random(1,100) + " hour" 18:38 MinetestBot TypeError: 'SomeObject' object is not callable 18:38 Krock lol 18:38 PenguinDad !c "how many time for make item broken by water ..." + str(random.randint(1,100)) + " hour" 18:38 MinetestBot 'how many time for make item broken by water ...68 hour' 18:38 Yellowberry !c "how many time for make item broken by water " + str(random.randint(1,100)) + " hour" 18:38 MinetestBot 'how many time for make item broken by water 54 hour' 18:38 Yellowberry oh 18:38 Yellowberry darn 18:38 Yellowberry ninja 18:40 Yellowberry :D 18:41 Yellowberry !c ("HAX "+random.randint(1,100)+", ")*random.randint(1,10) 18:41 MinetestBot TypeError: Can't convert 'int' object to str implicitly 18:41 Yellowberry woops 18:41 Yellowberry !c ("HAX "+str(random.randint(1,100))+", ")*random.randint(1,10) 18:41 MinetestBot 'HAX 62, HAX 62, HAX 62, HAX 62, HAX 62, ' 18:41 Yellowberry :/ 18:42 Yellowberry !c ("HAX "+str(random.randint(1,100))+", ")*random.randint(1,10) 18:42 MinetestBot 'HAX 28, HAX 28, HAX 28, HAX 28, HAX 28, HAX 28, HAX 28, HAX 28, HAX 28, HAX 28, ' 18:42 Yellowberry it seems to be working 18:42 Yellowberry !c ("I am "+str(random.randint(1,1000))+".") 18:42 MinetestBot 'I am 741.' 18:42 Yellowberry lol 18:43 Yellowberry !c ("I am "+str(random.randint(1,1000))+" years old.") 18:43 MinetestBot 'I am 350 years old.' 18:43 raffahacks "do not abuse the bot" :p 18:43 Yellowberry raffahacks! 18:43 Yellowberry you exist! 18:43 Yellowberry I will fix those typos today 18:43 Yellowberry and mail them to you 18:44 raffahacks Yellowberry, are you zsolti? Hi! 18:44 Yellowberry also, there are multiple bots, so which one? 18:44 Yellowberry ye, I is 18:44 davedevils !c ("I make "+str(random.randint(1,100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000))+" second for make this or "+str(random.randint(1,100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000))+" second ? ") 18:44 MinetestBot 'I make 27174804139580977219115389863597382330935707968253068764357309504544386901 second for make this or 27787806551369921317421226511343528911860061053908871334427840241957445799 second ? ' 18:45 Yellowberry davedevils: plz learn english :D 18:45 davedevils !c ("I make "+str(random.randint(1,100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000)*random.randint(1,100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000)*random.randint(1,100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000))+"?" 18:45 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 18:45 raffahacks Thank you for your help, I am now making some diagrams to explain well my project. Can you use low-level perl functions? 18:45 davedevils è_é 18:45 Yellowberry mhm 18:45 Yellowberry woot! 18:46 Yellowberry è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é 18:46 Yellowberry !c "è_é "*69 18:46 MinetestBot 'è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é è_é ' 18:46 davedevils !c "è_é" * random.randint(10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000)) 18:46 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 18:46 davedevils !c "è_é" * random.randint(10000000000000000000000000000000,100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000) 18:46 MinetestBot OverflowError: cannot fit 'int' into an index-sized integer 18:47 Yellowberry lol 18:47 Yellowberry if you cause a buffer overflow, sfan5 will kill you 18:47 Yellowberry !c "è_é"*69 18:47 MinetestBot 'è_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_éè_é' 18:47 davedevils !tell jambon *-* 18:47 MinetestBot davedevils: I'll pass that on when jambon is around 18:48 davedevils XDDDD 18:48 davedevils !tell mother *-* 18:48 MinetestBot davedevils: yeah, sure, whatever 18:48 Yellowberry !tell your_manhood :? 18:48 MinetestBot Yellowberry: I'll pass that on when your_manhood is around 18:48 davedevils troll *-* 18:48 iqualfragile can i into 18:48 iqualfragile !op 18:48 davedevils !tell m0ther *-* 18:48 MinetestBot davedevils: yeah, yeah 18:48 iqualfragile please don't abuse the bot, ok? 18:49 raffahacks What did she change? 18:49 iqualfragile you are currently spamming the channel 18:49 iqualfragile !deop 18:49 davedevils *-* 18:49 Yellowberry davedevils: ##minetestbot 18:49 raffahacks !op 18:49 Yellowberry lol 18:49 raffahacks I don't think it'll work :p 18:49 Yellowberry raffahacks: you have to be on ze list 18:50 raffahacks !deop MinetestBot 18:52 raffahacks !op * 18:53 iqualfragile please stop it, raffahacks, while minetest is less ontopick then minetest-dev there really is no need for stupidity. if you want to use a command on minetestbot just use a query 18:54 raffahacks iqualfragile, ok, i'll stop it :/ 18:55 Yellowberry WW91ciBtb20gaXMgYSBmYWc= 18:56 raffahacks Bitcoin? 18:56 Krock base64? 18:57 Yellowberry he 18:57 raffahacks Random keys pressed? 18:57 Yellowberry ye 18:57 Yellowberry no 18:57 Yellowberry is B64 18:57 raffahacks What is it? 18:58 Yellowberry find a decode on google 18:58 Yellowberry and decode 18:58 raffahacks I mean, what does it correspond to uncrypted? 18:58 raffahacks I have no browser yet :( 18:59 Krock WW91ciBtb20gaXMgb25lIGFzd2VsbA== 18:59 Krock ^ Yellowberry 18:59 raffahacks Can the bot decrypt it? 18:59 Krock ShadowBot: help 18:59 ShadowBot Krock: help [] [] 18:59 Yellowberry yes 18:59 Yellowberry !b64d 18:59 Yellowberry !b64d hi 18:59 MinetestBot Yellowberry: Failed to handle data 18:59 raffahacks Which one? 18:59 Yellowberry MinetestBot: 19:00 Krock !b64d SGVsbG8gd29ybGQ= 19:00 MinetestBot Hello world 19:00 Krock ^^ 19:00 Yellowberry !b64d WW91ciBtb20gaXMgYSBmYWc= 19:00 MinetestBot Your mom is a fag 19:00 Krock !b64d WW91ciBtb20gaXMgb25lIGFzd2VsbA== 19:00 MinetestBot Your mom is one aswell 19:00 raffahacks Oh i hoped it was Bill Gates credit card number :( 19:00 Yellowberry lol 19:00 Yellowberry brb 19:01 Krock Yellowberry, looks like you didn't decode mine 19:01 raffahacks He did 19:01 PenguinDad !b64e 4chan is taking over! 19:01 MinetestBot NGNoYW4gaXMgdGFraW5nIG92ZXIh 19:02 raffahacks No iqualfragile anymore, 4x spam on channel 19:02 davedevils ttub taf gib taht htiw od ot tahw wonk uoY 19:03 davedevils !rev wiggle 19:03 MinetestBot elggiw 19:04 raffahacks !thisdoesnotexist 19:04 Yellowberry yeah 19:05 raffahacks !rainbow nyancat 19:05 MinetestBot 4ny7an8ca3t 19:05 Calinou hi 19:05 Amaz !rainbow Hello! 19:05 MinetestBot 4He7ll8o! 19:05 raffahacks !rainbow rainbow 19:05 MinetestBot 4ra7in8bo3w 19:05 PenguinDad 05H04e07l08l03o 09A10m11a02z12! 19:06 Amaz :D 19:06 raffahacks Amaz, I am now following you on Twitter :) 19:06 raffahacks I think... 19:07 Amaz raffahacks, expect updates to be few and far between :D 19:07 raffahacks !rainbow All Right Now 19:07 MinetestBot 4All7 Ri8ght3 No12w 19:07 raffahacks Wasn't that a song by rock group Rainbow 19:08 raffahacks !rainbow Pink Floyd are better anyway! :) 19:08 MinetestBot 4Pink7 Flo8yd a3re b12ette6r an13yway4! :) 19:12 raffahacks How to make the bot repeat a sentence? 19:12 Calinou !rainbow Rainbow Dash is best pony. 19:12 MinetestBot 4Rain7bow 8Dash3 is 12best6 pon13y. 19:13 raffahacks Hi Calinou 19:13 freelikegnu A rainbow is just the Earths way of frowning on your failures 19:17 raffahacks freelikegnu, are you a Stallman fan? 19:19 Calinou raffahacks, try not to stigmatize people 19:19 raffahacks Oh, sorry 19:20 eeeeeta !rainbow o.o 19:20 MinetestBot 4o7.8o 19:20 raffahacks It wasn't offensive. I am a Stallman fan 19:21 eeeeeta raffahacks: relevant xkcd https://xkcd.com/225/ 19:23 raffahacks Lol 19:23 raffahacks Must go, bye 19:31 eeeeeta I burnt my house down. ._. 19:34 Krock too bad. 19:34 Krock disable fire next time 19:34 eeeeeta :( 19:35 eeeeeta any way to get it back? 19:35 Krock Ctrl+Z won't work 19:35 eeeeeta ;P 19:35 Krock you'll have to re-build it 19:35 * eeeeeta curses Calinou 19:36 _awaylikegnu yeah i like tms 19:36 _awaylikegnu RMS 19:38 ElectronLibre eeeta, I'm not sure there is anything to bring back you house :/ 19:40 Zephlon !rainbow Woah what? A rainbow command!? :O 19:40 MinetestBot 4Woah7 wha8t? A3 rai12nbow6 com13mand4!? :7O 19:42 PenguinDad 06Z13e05p04h07l08o03n09: 10Y11e02s 12s06h13e 05h04a07s 08a 03r09a10i11n02b12o06w 13c05o04m07m08a03n09d 19:42 * sfan5 hugs MinetestBot 19:49 * eeeeeta catifies sfan5 19:49 * sfan5 meows at eeeeeta 19:49 * eeeeeta cats 19:50 * eeeeeta meows back at sfan5 19:50 * sfan5 paws eeeeeta 19:50 * eeeeeta emits a loud ē 19:50 * eeeeeta goes back to rebuild his burnt down Minetest house 19:51 * eeeeeta wonders if sfan5's worldedit could help 19:51 * sfan5 paws eeeeeta 19:57 sfan5 !op 19:58 sfan5 !deop 19:59 eeeeeta sfan5: how do you un-//hide 20:00 eeeeeta I accidentally my whole house 20:00 sfan5 //show maybe 20:00 sfan5 I dunno 20:00 sfan5 read the docs 20:01 eeeeeta there is no //show 20:01 eeeeeta oh, //restore 20:21 _Esteban hai @everyone 20:22 kaeza hai 20:23 _Esteban I have a doubt about some mods...is it true mods like technic/pipeworks can cause lag in multiplayer servers? 20:24 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix erroneous lua_pop parameter 13db25f75 http://git.io/XxgXuQ (152014-10-30T16:23:48-04:00) 20:29 DFeniks i wonder if i did the message right... 20:39 _Esteban brb :P 20:54 OldCoder Hm. I am getting 100% timeouts from Kindle users now. Not sure why. It worked until recently. 20:54 Calinou that's cool 20:55 Calinou how did you do it? 20:55 OldCoder ? 20:55 OldCoder Calinou, who are you addressing? 20:55 coagen lol 20:55 coagen I think he's hating on Kindle users? 20:55 VanessaE aren't kindles still stuck with 0.4.7 or something REALLY old? 20:56 Calinou coagen, no, illegal mobile clients 20:56 Calinou (and in general mobile Minetest players are quite of bad quality) 20:56 coagen illegal?!! 20:56 Calinou they violate the license 20:57 Calinou no source code 20:57 VanessaE coagen: illegal - because they... yeah 20:57 coagen dafuck? 20:57 OldCoder Yes but why did it just break this week? I have tried with and without my patches and Sapier's patch 20:57 OldCoder It just stopped working 20:57 OldCoder And I tried both old and new gits 20:57 VanessaE OldCoder: network filter upstream from your server maybe? 20:57 OldCoder It is independent of our feelings about Kindle 20:57 OldCoder But just for the Kindle? 20:58 VanessaE perhaps - something that only affects that build. remember minetest's network stack is a little...touchy 20:58 VanessaE and mobile clients doubly so 20:58 OldCoder TImeouts; they are timing out even with regenerating cache and timeout set to 5 seconds 20:58 OldCoder Yes 20:58 OldCoder ill miss everyone so bad 20:58 OldCoder But when a kid says that, how can I just say "so long" ? 20:59 coagen Gamarnik Maksim Dmitrievich ? 20:59 VanessaE what else CAN you say? 20:59 coagen who is that 20:59 OldCoder I will look further at the timeouts, Vanessa. What confuses me is what changed... 21:00 OldCoder I rebuilt the curl cache, tried old and new git releases, and both of the recent patches 21:00 OldCoder Well, not much more to say 21:00 OldCoder Except... 21:00 VanessaE OldCoder: I would guess it's just some change in the topology of the internet near your server, just enough to 'throw off' your patch to the point that it no longer works. 21:00 VanessaE e.g. "circumstances beyond your control' 21:00 OldCoder If I set timeout to 5 seconds as a test, shouldn't that be enough? 21:00 Jordach Kindles are able to run sapier's builds 21:00 OldCoder Yes and it worked until this week 21:00 VanessaE Jordach: yes, but kindle USERS aren't, as a general rule. 21:00 OldCoder Hm 21:01 OldCoder Link? 21:01 VanessaE Jordach: 99% of kindle users don't know how to even sideload, let alone how to find Sapier's build. 21:01 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9389 21:01 VanessaE OldCoder: ^^ 21:01 coagen https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Minetest.Mobile.FREE&hl=en this was updated 4 days ago... 21:01 OldCoder R 21:01 coagen using 0.4.11-dev version 21:01 OldCoder Ah!! 21:02 OldCoder Does the Kindle auto-update?? 21:02 VanessaE idk 21:02 coagen probably 21:02 VanessaE coagen: that is not the real Minetest 21:02 coagen duh 21:02 VanessaE that's an illegal port also 21:02 coagen illegal how? 21:02 OldCoder DFeniks, tell him to come back, we have a likely explanation 21:02 coagen i'm still not getting that 21:02 OldCoder DFeniks, you are on a server with him presently, correct? 21:02 * Jordach has a WinXP VM 21:03 VanessaE coagen: that "sourse" [sic] link doesn't point to valid source code and as far as I am aware can't be used to create a working build of the real Minetest. 21:03 * Jordach considers wrecking it with malware and reimaging it 21:03 VanessaE ergo, it violates the LGPL 21:04 OldCoder One more question and I g2g. Players can check release, correct? But not clear what key on the Kindle. 21:04 VanessaE no idea on kindle, OldCoder 21:04 OldCoder kk 21:04 coagen VanessaE: I'm looking at this code... wtf, this is really weird 21:05 coagen VanessaE: whomever this is has contributed to every minetest related project out there though 21:05 coagen VanessaE: https://github.com/MoNTE48 21:05 VanessaE coagen: case in point. plus, that version is ad-laden. I don't think anyone among the core devs or here in these channels supports that notion 21:06 coagen VanessaE: yeah, I noticed, they are making money from the ad free version no doubt 21:07 coagen Worldcraft... what is this? 21:08 VanessaE another fork 21:08 VanessaE and generally hated by most of us here. 21:09 VanessaE primarily because it was impossible to contact the people who made it and they left it in a horribly outdated state for a very long time, forcing us to field way WAY too many support questions. 21:09 VanessaE and it was even more illegal as it provided ZERO source code 21:09 VanessaE (not even a link to something questionable) 21:09 VanessaE at least for a long while that was the case 21:10 coagen wow 21:10 VanessaE and when source code did surface, it was outdated 21:10 coagen crazy yo 21:10 VanessaE (and not buildable either) 21:13 coagen VanessaE: well if any of these damn things were buildable 21:13 PenguinDad Jordach: Windows XP destruction style? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9DST-6jIBU 21:14 coagen VanessaE: someone should go and rip out the adlib, and put it on f-droid 21:14 coagen someone more skilled than me :| 21:14 coagen that will make it freely available, and ad free 21:14 VanessaE I didn't know anyone still used adlibs... thought everything was AC'97 by now ;) 21:15 coagen hah 21:15 VanessaE anyway better to use Sapier's builds 21:15 Calinou AC'97 is dead now, now it's only HD Audio, VanessaE 21:15 VanessaE Calinou: oh right. I forgot :P 21:16 coagen VanessaE: there are a lot of projects on f-droid, where they have used the author's source and replaced the ad libs with dummy libs and made a nice app available without ads 21:17 coagen who is sapier? 21:17 coagen never seen them here 21:17 VanessaE he's one of the core devs 21:17 VanessaE been away a lot lately though 21:17 VanessaE normally only found in #minetest-dev 21:20 coagen hrm, thx 21:41 Jordach WHAT THE FUCK 21:42 Jordach >latest stable firefox speed dial 21:42 Jordach >looks literally like shit 21:44 Calinou it was remade 21:44 Calinou tip: you can change the window count in about:config 21:44 Calinou I use 12 here (4 × 3) 21:46 coagen Jordach: i'm considering trying the ESR version of firefor or Palemoon... 21:46 Jordach Calinou, where art thou bullshit reset switch 21:46 Calinou Pale Moon sucks 21:47 iqualfragile wget all the way 21:48 coagen aur/firefox-esr-bin 31.2.0-1 (35) 21:48 coagen hrm 21:49 coagen thats not what I expected 21:49 coagen I thought 24.x was the esr version 21:49 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/mAJAyLrexoKa.jpg 21:50 VanessaE HDX :D 21:51 Jordach BLEH 21:51 coagen VanessaE: you have some configs I can look at? 21:51 VanessaE coagen: purpose of same? 21:51 coagen VanessaE: minetest.conf yo? 21:51 coagen VanessaE: yeah 21:52 VanessaE coagen: sure of course, but what's the purpose? 21:52 coagen VanessaE: I'm still not htting any hard limits 21:52 * Jordach can run the full on HDX while VanessaE and her R9 can't 21:52 * kaeza slaps Jordach with Chromium 21:52 coagen VanessaE: hardware limits that is, then again, I've only had max 2 ppl on the server.. but lag was terrible cause they were on the other side of the earth I think 21:53 Jordach I have higher regards for MS than Google, kaeza 21:53 coagen R9's are awesome, Jordach what have you got? 21:53 Jordach coagen, AMD A10-APU 6800K 21:53 * coagen pukes rainbows 21:53 coagen what 21:53 coagen thats nothing 21:54 Jordach i mangaged to get ~14fps at 1080p + HDX512 + normals 21:54 Jordach on VE-Creative 21:54 * kaeza slaps Jordach with Intranet Exploder 21:54 coagen I've got an r9 290 for sale actually 21:54 Jordach kaeza, IE 10x 21:54 Jordach kaeza, Android Chrome crashes on 60fps HTML5 videos 21:54 Jordach IE doesn;t 21:55 coagen bought it for making doge last year... but switched back to my r9 270 cause it ran cooler 21:56 coagen that was a dumb investment 21:56 VanessaE my R9 280X only runs at 69C while mining 21:56 coagen btw 21:56 VanessaE (3.1 MH/s X11 algo) 21:56 coagen oh 21:56 Jordach kaeza, also: OneDrive + Office 365 is a fucking beast 21:56 coagen wait you have the 280 21:56 VanessaE Jordach: and I *can* run full HDX but it costs fps unless I turn off the filters 21:56 coagen yeah they run cooler 21:56 VanessaE but then it's noisy as hell 21:58 coagen ugh, yeah thats also why I dont want the 290... 21:58 Jordach coagen, where are you in the world 21:58 Jordach pls be EU 21:58 coagen Kentucky, 'murrica fool 21:58 Jordach goddammit 21:58 coagen sorry 21:58 Jordach why do people have hw for sale that isn't in the EU 21:58 VanessaE I HATE that whole "'murrica"/"'merica" meme 21:58 VanessaE it's old. 21:58 VanessaE it's stupid 21:59 VanessaE and it's horribly inaccurate. 21:59 coagen VanessaE: sorry, I hate it too... I think I've just given in to the stupid 21:59 Jordach LIKE YOUR DYING LOBBYIST ECONOMY 21:59 Jordach "The Pirate Bay infringes human rights" 21:59 VanessaE Jordach: you mean the *government's* dieing "lobbyist" economy. 22:00 Jordach VanessaE, swings both ways 22:00 coagen well 22:00 VanessaE no, it doesn't. 22:00 Jordach err, using a model for movies that doesn't work with modern tech? eg. the no sharing rule 22:00 coagen plutocracy or whatever 22:00 VanessaE the average American does not advocate the shit you're talking about. 22:00 Jordach VanessaE, people share shit all the time 22:01 VanessaE only the government advocates the "get tough on crime" bullshit arguments, most people actually don't. 22:01 Jordach and where do the threats come from? 22:01 VanessaE the government, where else? 22:01 Jordach no money = no chance of running for president 22:01 VanessaE HAH 22:01 VanessaE where do you think the money comes from? 22:01 Jordach VanessaE, lobbyists provide dosh for them 22:01 coagen VanessaE: lately I go with "I was born in the empire, but I do not support it" as my excuse for being here.... 22:02 VanessaE do you honestly think they wouldn't find a way anyways? 22:02 VanessaE our political system is autonomous. 22:02 VanessaE coagen: that's about how I feel too 22:02 VanessaE I was born here, but I do not support this country. 22:02 VanessaE just as I support our troops, but I don't support that which they are fighting for. 22:03 Calinou you should come to france, if you want to live in a country where you don't support your government :P 22:03 Jordach VanessaE, can't wait until the US crumbles into a normal power 22:03 Calinou our president has 14 % popularity 22:03 Calinou 4 % want him to participate to next elections 22:03 coagen except for the taxes I pay, that support the the wars and death... etc. :| if I thought I could get away with not paying them... :| i would 22:03 Jordach Calinou, guillotine time! :D 22:03 VanessaE Calinou: didn't you guys *just* oust a president recently? 22:03 Calinou no 22:03 Calinou bye 22:03 coagen I would love to go to france 22:03 coagen I think 22:04 VanessaE I hate when he does that.\ 22:04 coagen don't speak french tho 22:04 tpe Remote host guillotined the connection 22:04 coagen except for that one line from that song that translates to "would you like to sleep with me tonight" or something 22:04 coagen I forget 22:05 coagen probably could get by with that, and knowing how to say "i'm hungry" and "wheres the toilet" right? 22:05 NemoMT coagen, I think you would. ;) 22:06 jin_xi j'ai faim, ou est la toilette? 22:06 VanessaE I'll stay where I am. yes it sucks here to a certain degree, but I can't say that other places are necessarily any better. 22:06 coagen lol 22:07 coagen jin_xi: I'm ready now thx ;) 22:08 gravgun coagen: i'll be your guide then >:) 22:08 coagen gravgun: cool! 22:09 gravgun jin_xi: "la toilette" means washing yourself (e.g shower), "les toilettes", always in plural form, actually means "the toilet" 22:09 coagen I actually applied for a linux sysadmin job at one of the nuclear research labs in france 22:09 gravgun coagen: just kidding, sorry :/ Y'know, school, all these things... 22:09 coagen some years ago, they contacted me for an interview, but I was too much of a pussy to even try 22:09 jin_xi merci, french is tough to get right 22:10 gravgun jin_xi: unless it's your native language :P 22:10 gravgun jin_xi: but even many French-speaking people says french is hard 22:10 coagen I was afraid of leaving the things i'm familar with I guess :| 22:10 NemoMT I support certain aspects of the US, such as freedom.. Even though it seems like it's getting less and less free especially now that you are limited to shooting only whales while in a moving automobile in tennessee. 22:10 Jordach VanessaE, i'll do a deal with you: you send me a decent GPU say R9 and i'll do ~250 homedecor models 22:12 VanessaE I don't need your models, I'll make my own...with blackjack! and hookers! 22:12 VanessaE ah forget the latter two 22:12 VanessaE :) 22:12 gravgun :3 22:12 Jordach suddenly: BFD 0.5 Blackjack and Hookers easter egg update 22:12 gravgun Too late, I recorded what you said 22:13 VanessaE Jordach: I've learned JUST enough about using blender to be dangerous. :) 22:13 gravgun "dangerous" 22:14 gravgun "dangerous" 22:14 gravgun Mmmmmm... 22:16 coagen VanessaE: so, why isn't there an official mt build on the gp store? 22:17 coagen VanessaE: curious if you know... 22:17 VanessaE coagen: *makes money hand gesture* 22:17 VanessaE that's why. 22:17 coagen VanessaE: I don't understand 22:17 VanessaE it costs like $25 to register and put a build up omn google play. 22:17 coagen VanessaE: ELIF 22:17 VanessaE and how long that $25 is good for, I don't know. 22:17 coagen oh 22:18 coagen yeah its good for the user account 22:18 VanessaE plus, getting rid of all the clones is a problem. 22:18 coagen for ever afaik 22:18 coagen I've built test android apps in the past 22:18 coagen but i'm no expert 22:18 coagen if these scam artist are putting it up there... why doesn't someone here do the real thing 22:18 coagen without ads 22:18 VanessaE I don't know at all 22:19 coagen so 22:19 VanessaE getting rid of the bad builds has been tried in the past 22:19 VanessaE but it didn't last long 22:19 SylvieLorxu Open Source communities tend to not like to pay for proprietary services 22:19 VanessaE and we had nothing to replace them with 22:19 coagen I didn't say anything about that 22:19 VanessaE well 22:19 VanessaE what good does putting up a new build do if you can't get rid of the clones? 22:19 VanessaE the users will never find the good buil;d 22:19 VanessaE -; 22:19 coagen I mean, I don't know if they can be gotten rid of right away, and I don't know if I care about them 22:20 coagen thats the opposite of postive thinging 22:20 coagen *thinking 22:20 coagen if ppl know the real build 22:20 coagen and rate it 22:20 coagen etc 22:20 coagen and install it 22:20 coagen it will rise in popularity 22:20 coagen and it will be found 22:20 coagen first it has to be there 22:20 VanessaE they DON'T know the real build 22:20 VanessaE that's the problem 22:20 VanessaE the average user, unfortunately, is an idiot when it comes do doing a little basic research 22:21 VanessaE I wish this were not the case 22:21 VanessaE but it is. 22:21 gravgun VanessaE: that's basically the problem with EVERY single app based on open-source works not ever mentioning it to the end-user 22:21 Jordach VanessaE, i could pay that fee, but someone would have to hand me something in return of 1/6th value 22:21 coagen SylvieLorxu: i'm quite comfortable with paying $25 damn dollars... I mean jeez if thats all thats holding stuff back i'll donate it myself 22:21 coagen VanessaE: I agree avg users are idiots, but they'll never find the real mt, if its on the gp store 22:21 Jordach (buy a game on steam and it's a done deal) 22:22 SylvieLorxu Minetest on F-Droid when? 22:22 coagen SylvieLorxu: i was saying that should happen 22:22 coagen earlier 22:22 SylvieLorxu F-Droid is great 22:22 coagen MT should be on f-droid 22:22 coagen I'm surprised its not : 22:22 coagen :| 22:23 VanessaE coagen: they found buildcraft, worldcraft, et al. If they can find those, they can find the REAL Minetest, but that will only be possible if we get rid of the clones. 22:24 SylvieLorxu https://f-droid.org/forums/topic/minetest/ 22:24 SylvieLorxu F-Droid is sometimes so slow :( 22:24 coagen VanessaE: that is silly. 22:24 VanessaE coagen: it's reality 22:24 VanessaE it sucks but that's just how people are. 22:24 VanessaE reality is, as they say, often stranger than fiction 22:24 coagen VanessaE: I disagree. I think if the real MT is there. the clones will be ignored 22:25 coagen eventually 22:25 VanessaE coagen: players don't KNOW what the REAL Minetest is. 22:25 VanessaE that's the problem 22:25 VanessaE and if there are clones, they sap our market share 22:25 VanessaE what little of it we get to begin with 22:25 NemoMT Most players are just looking for a silly MC clone, in my opinion. 22:25 VanessaE NemoMT: precisely 22:26 coagen meh... 22:26 NemoMT Although some players actually know what MT is and are looking for it. 22:26 VanessaE ANY minecraft clone will do, in their eyes, and if it runs on the Minetest network of servers, all the better - they don't care. 22:26 VanessaE I am speaking from experience here. 22:27 VanessaE 75% of my servers' users come from tablets. 22:27 VanessaE they don't even KNOW what they run 22:27 VanessaE hell some of them don't even know they're running Android 22:28 Jordach we need as a whole damn species better IT savvyness 22:28 coagen VanessaE: but does the client provide any kind of agent string that would identify its orgin, worldcraft, or the other one? 22:28 VanessaE a few can't even figure out how to spell "Kindle" and it's written right there on the device 22:28 coagen lol 22:28 NemoMT 90% of MT clone android users are young kids. I highly doubt many of them are above the age of 13. 22:28 VanessaE coagen: no, they don't provide a usable "agent string" if you can call it that 22:28 VanessaE they all identify as a Minetest 0.4.x build 22:28 VanessaE (some as old as 0.4.7, some as new as 0.4.10-dev) 22:29 gravgun VanessaE: is it legally possible to force changing a user-agent string when creating a derivative work of MT? 22:29 gravgun I mean with (L)GPL, all of this... 22:29 VanessaE gravgun: I don't know. 22:29 gravgun Step 1: change the protol, break everything :3 22:30 VanessaE gravgun: 0.5.0 22:30 VanessaE that will probably happen then :P 22:31 coagen VanessaE: thanks for covering this subject in depth, I think I learned a few things 22:31 VanessaE coagen: I only know a little bit compared to other folks 22:32 coagen VanessaE: also, you got some tricked out minetest.conf file I can play with on your site? 22:32 gravgun coagen, I experience the same rage that VanessaE have right now concerning "clones"... 22:32 coagen VanessaE: It was quite educational for me ;) 22:33 VanessaE coagen: not really, but here is an example .conf from my survival server: http://pastebin.com/bQ883N5R 22:34 hisforeverkid I got my castle done except the shrubs 22:35 coagen VanessaE: thx 22:35 coagen VanessaE: I'll see if I can understand this ;)