Time Nick Message 00:00 OldCoder CC allows you to specify attribution 00:00 OldCoder You can state the group as the authors 00:00 OldCoder Accordingly each person I *think* must be acknowledged 00:00 OldCoder Do you follow? 00:01 Fritigern_AFK I think i do. 00:02 Fritigern_AFK Of course, i could call yet another new license into existence. Let's call it the Friti License, adding to the already daunting forest of licenses :-))) 00:37 blaise lmao 00:39 Fritigern_AFK ? 00:40 blaise 19:02 < Fritigern_AFK> Of course, i could call yet another new license into existence. Let's call it the Friti License, adding to the already daunting forest of licenses :-))) 00:53 kaeza the Friticense 00:54 VanessaE the Fritincense :P 00:54 VanessaE the best-smelling license in existence :) 00:54 kaeza :P 00:59 Fritigern_AFK Heehee!!!! So my remark about making my own license made me scribble a bit, just for the heck of it, and if i were REALLY going to have a license of my own, i think it would be something like this: http://pastebin.com/CZms6Du9 01:01 Fritigern_AFK Sometimes i just get an idea, and have to play with it.... 01:13 ShadowNinja Fritigern_AFK: Probably a bad idea. You're likely to make a lot of mistakes and leave loopholes, unless you're a lawyer. 01:13 Fritigern_AFK "just for the heck of it, and if i were REALLY going to have a license of my own..." 01:14 Fritigern_AFK BTW, what happened to the public server list? I can't seem to get a list in-game 01:16 Fritigern_AFK Oh, i see.... http://servers.minetest.net/ 01:16 kaeza it's empty anyway... 01:17 Fritigern_AFK Yes, but ity shouldn't be 01:17 ShadowNinja sfan5: ^ 01:17 ShadowNinja I can't load it at all. 01:17 kaeza it took a whole 10 secs for me 01:18 kaeza /list seems to be accessible, but empty 01:18 Fritigern_AFK Have a look at http://servers.minetest.net/ 01:19 kaeza [off] that issue from before? 01:22 Fritigern_AFK Before? 01:30 ShadowNinja [off] kaeza: No, the old issue blocked the first request but allowed aditional requests. It may be a skiddie that DDoSed VE a little while ago, although servers.minetest.net supposedly has DDoS mitigation in place. 01:31 ShadowNinja "Chromium could not load the webpage because servers.minetest.net took too long to respond." 01:47 Fritigern_AFK So, i am having issues logging into my private server. Could this be somehow related to the empty server list? 01:48 ShadowNinja Fritigern_AFK: No. Issues logging in as a player on a remote server? 02:00 Fritigern_AFK What can cause admins to be able to log in succesfully, but regular users to get stuck in limbo when they try to log in? 02:05 Fritigern_AFK I think the server froze. I have placed a couple of torches, but they stay flat 02:07 Fritigern_AFK I can still move around though. A little. A blinking sign has stopped blinking, but i can not leave the area. 02:12 zat Fritigern_AFK: thats a freeeeezeeeee 02:12 zat 23:09:03: ERROR[CurlFetchThread]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Timeout was reached) (response code 0) 02:12 Fritigern_AFK Gee, really? 02:12 zat yes 02:13 Fritigern_AFK So helpful 02:13 VanessaE sounds like the master server list is getting DDoS'ed again then. 02:13 VanessaE why am I not surprised., 02:13 VanessaE [off] ShadowNinja, isn't there something we can do about this, permanently? 02:15 zat VanessaE: DoS or DDoS? 02:16 VanessaE zat: DDoS. 02:16 Miner_48er alternative master servers decided by best ping? 02:17 zat VanessaE: how to know its DDoS and... why? 02:18 VanessaE zat: because no one uses just one machine anymore, not for many years now. why? because they're stupid little children who think they can get off on interrupting peoples' lives. 02:18 VanessaE Miner_48er: a good idea. 02:19 zat VanessaE: a DDoS isnt a trivial thing that any script kiddy can do 02:19 VanessaE zat: sure it is. 02:20 zat like you say, nope.avi 02:20 zat who runs the servers list server anyway? 02:21 VanessaE it's all a matter of how many machines you can get under your control and for how long 02:21 zat something that script kiddies dont do 02:22 zat actual DDoS are rare and done for a good reason 02:22 VanessaE ...unless they have access to some C&C server 02:22 Fritigern So why would my private server on my local machine lock up when a regualr user logs in, but be fine when an admin logs in? 02:22 zat Fritigern: tried disabling mods? 02:22 zat VanessaE: C&C? 02:23 VanessaE zat: Command&Control 02:23 VanessaE e.g. a "master" computer used to take control of a number of others in a botnet 02:24 zat thats not what a SK does 02:24 VanessaE I know that. but SK is also a term I use for the same children who are involved with that shit 02:25 VanessaE in other words, babies who have nothing productive to do with their time. 02:25 zat no no, what I mean is... 02:26 LazyJ Hehehe... nice to know I'm not the only one gets grumpy about misbehaving kids. ;) 02:26 zat SKs cant, because their level is far from being able to form a botnet 02:26 zat can you think of any good reason there could possibly exist to DDoS something like minetests list of servers? 02:26 VanessaE zat: because they can? and because it's happened before. 02:27 zat How you know that it was DDoS and not DoS? 02:27 VanessaE see /msg 02:27 zat I saw 02:29 OldCoder Dragonop, welcome to Minetest 02:29 OldCoder Congratulations on making it 02:29 OldCoder You may have met VanessaE before 02:29 OldCoder And some of the others 02:29 Dragonop Being realistic, i now minetest since 2011 02:29 OldCoder This is where to come to offer suggestions or learn to work on the core 02:30 OldCoder Fine, put your knowledge to use 02:30 Dragonop :) 02:30 OldCoder VanessaE, Zeno` this is Dragonop from Argentina who is ready for the big leagues here :-) 02:30 Zeno` woohoo! 02:30 Zeno` hi Dragonop 02:30 OldCoder ShadowNinja, you have seen him be useful ^ 02:30 Dragonop hi 02:30 OldCoder Dragonop, I am in a meeting 02:30 Zeno` Soccer? 02:30 OldCoder We will talk further by PM 02:30 Dragonop ok 02:30 OldCoder But this is where to talk Minetest 02:31 OldCoder Oh, one more thing in PM 02:31 Dragonop lets go 02:31 Zeno` I had a girlfriend from Argentina once 02:32 zat My girlfriend is from Chile 02:34 LazyJ The silver lining, I suppose, is if someone is even bothering with a DDos/DoS of Minetest's server list, then it means Minetest is popular enough to be noticed. 02:35 cities thats a 02:35 cities very thin silver lining 02:36 zat LazyJ: maybe angry minecraft fanbois? 02:36 LazyJ Nah, probably Russia and China :0) 02:36 zat well, I have read about minecraft fanbois complaining and saying that minetest "needs to be taken down" [sic] 02:37 LazyJ Those are the type of children VanessaE was talking about. 02:37 VanessaE LazyJ: naw, it's just the same dickhead who hangs around here who likes to try to show off his big bad botnet. 02:37 Fritigern So, the freeze is caused by some module in ServerExtended v0.5. Now to track down the offending module 02:38 zat Fritigern: serverextended was ultra buggy for me 02:38 zat I think its the ranks module, check it out 02:39 VanessaE Fritigern: which machine is that error from? It's Microsoft BASIC, but I don't recognize the platform. :P 02:40 Fritigern CBM64, duh :-) 02:40 Zeno` Amiga used MS-Basic 02:40 VanessaE FAIL 02:40 VanessaE it would be ?NEXT WITHOUT FOR ERROR 02:40 VanessaE (two spaces in front of " ERROR") 02:40 Zeno` and, yeah, c-64 BASIC used a BASIC written by MS I believe 02:40 VanessaE turn in your geek card, Fritigern :) 02:40 Zeno` although it wasn't "MS-Basic" 02:40 Fritigern So does the Apple][, the VIC-20, C64, C128, and more 02:40 zat Fritigern: serverextended was ultra buggy for me 02:40 zat I think its the ranks module, check it out 02:41 Fritigern Okay zat, i thought it was that. Had to be certain 02:41 * VanessaE <-- recovering C64 geek :) 02:41 LazyJ minetest.conf's "max_objects_per_block" setting,... I'm assuming "block" means 16x16x16 nodes, so what constitutes a "statically stored object"? 02:41 VanessaE LazyJ: an entity 02:42 zat https://github.com/Traxie21/ServerExtended--Unstable-/ seems abandoned 02:42 VanessaE like the text from a sign 02:42 LazyJ Sign text, mobs,... what else? 02:43 VanessaE dropped items maybe? 02:43 LazyJ Hmm... 02:43 VanessaE why, are you getting entity duplication? 02:43 VanessaE tons of items being shown in the log but nothing is there in the world? 02:43 LazyJ No. not that. 02:44 LazyJ I'm curious how much extra effort the computer has to go through in very developed areas. 02:44 VanessaE ah 02:45 LazyJ A city block full of animated water, torches, lights, protection settings, locked storage, waving plants and leaves. 02:45 VanessaE not all that much for the *server*, but the client will work pretty hard when it loads up a bunch of entities 02:45 LazyJ As compared to a vanilla world's undeveloped areas. 02:46 VanessaE the biggest CPU for clients would be particles (jin_xi is working on that), nodeboxes (RBA's got that) and entities (not sure who's working on those) 02:47 VanessaE on the server it's mostly water/lava flow, and whenever you have a slow mod of course 02:47 zat there should be a way to make efficient finite liquids 02:48 Zeno` and light 02:48 LazyJ I've seen error messages in chat about too many objects detected and MT was deleting them. Usually when flying into an ungenerated area. 02:48 zat why not burrowing clients processing? 02:48 VanessaE zat: it's been tried before and ...it was a failure :-/ 02:48 zat VanessaE: burrowing? 02:48 VanessaE zat: finite water, in general 02:48 Zeno` actually, last time I profiled light was the biggest CPU user for a generic world with no buildings 02:48 zat VanessaE: what can be so hard considering its so slow? 02:48 VanessaE Zeno`: oh yes, light too. 02:49 VanessaE zat: you'll have to talk to proller about it, and then try to piece together what *really* happened :P 02:49 Zeno` oh wait.. you're talking about client. Light is on the server :/ 02:49 LazyJ iirc, all the graphic stuff in MT is shouldered by the cpu. MT doesn't utilize the graphics card's abilities. 02:49 zat proller: <3 02:50 zat LazyJ: could that be fault of irrlicht? 02:50 LazyJ As for flowing water and lava, players like fountains and waterfalls. 02:50 VanessaE LazyJ: that's not entirely correct, but too much of it is, yes 02:50 zat Minetest really needs Cryengine 02:50 zat or unreal 02:50 zat :D!!!!!! 02:50 VanessaE zat: no, there's just too much stuff done in realtime that should be cached or set up ahead of time to be handled by the GPU 02:50 Zeno` zat, no, the engine needs to use more GPU, simple as that :) 02:50 Zeno` and what VanessaE said 02:51 Zeno` The way Minetest is currently written using Cryengine would make no difference 02:51 zat I think that finite water can be perfectly done with CPU serverside 02:51 Zeno` It'd look exactly the same as well :D 02:51 zat maybe it hasnt been implemented the best way possible? 02:52 Zeno` RBA is working on it! 02:52 Zeno` He works magic stuffs! 02:52 zat I imagine traversing an array inmemory 02:52 Zeno` Where is he, by the way? 02:53 zat maybe finite water incurred in way too much IO? 02:53 LazyJ The problem I had with finite water was it broke water elevators (and scenic waterfalls). Long, flowing water lends to the "fantasy" nature of Minetest. 02:53 Zeno` Traversing an array in memory is not such a big deal if the data is able contiguous 02:54 Zeno` But it's not, and as things currently are can not 02:55 Zeno` Mainly because NodeId, param1, param2 are stored in the same object, so there are huge gaps between each node id (meaning cache misses) 02:55 Zeno` and the inability to use fast functions like memcpy() etc 02:56 zat Zeno`: use an auxiliar array 02:57 Zeno` zat, I know... but it's not easy to change 02:57 zat one only for calculations and fast traversal 02:57 zat about the waterfalls... use water sources there 02:58 zat I guess 03:00 Zeno` possibly yeah 03:00 Zeno` Goooood Morning Vietnam! 03:00 LazyJ If a water source can be suspended in mid-air and only flow down and not to the side. 03:01 Zeno` err... wrong channel 03:01 LazyJ R.I.P. Robin Williams. 03:01 Zeno` :( 03:02 zat LazyJ: water sources should disappear when... 03:02 zat idk lol 03:03 LazyJ There will always be celebrities, few will define history. 03:04 zat I go to sleep, byeall 03:09 * Zeno` waits patiently for the RBA 03:10 LazyJ Mechanics, Dynamics, Aesthetics... an interesting video on game design theory: http://youtu.be/uepAJ-rqJKA 03:23 fling Ok so how to get changed node coords? :P 03:24 * fling is writing another mapper 03:53 Dragonop gtg 04:09 Fritigern Sooooo.... I was messing with the SeverExtended tools, and the problem was not with ranks, not with gui, nor with several others. So i decided to completely remove SeverExtended. Perhaps i will eventually find similar tools, but ones that won;t cause issues 07:29 Krock Gary! meow? 07:31 hintss lol 07:33 Krock vacuum cleaner + CPU = less noisy CPU 07:41 meldrian_neti ahoi 07:54 Krock o/ meldrian_neti 07:55 Zeno` I need to use a vacuum cleaner 07:55 Zeno` has been over a year so it's overdue 08:05 sfan5_ wtf 08:42 CWz hello zeno 08:44 Krock http://i.imgur.com/4tQts8A.png 08:48 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Fire Prevention Day! :-D 09:23 Fritigern For some reason my wheat seeds . refuses to be sown. I tilled and irrigated the land, but the wheat decided that i can't plant it. I checked and they are just the weat seeds from farming 09:34 ninnghazad can mobs/entities actually wield tools yet? 09:38 Zeno` I used to be a mob 09:52 dirkk0 just for info: https://github.com/maxogden/blockplot/issues/2#issuecomment-58486693 did someone play around with Blockplot, yet? http://blockplot.com/ 11:22 Krock !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX4RrruOVZs 11:22 Krock MinetestBot! 11:22 Krock sfan5, she is gone :( 11:24 sfan5 Krock: 144p, u serious? 11:24 Krock U I U A A 11:25 Krock MinetestBot! 11:25 MinetestBot Krock! 11:26 sfan5 asie: didn't you say you didn't want to tweet anything? 11:26 asie sfan5: i realized i can't live without attention 11:27 asie and a way to make my brain forget i'm an uncreative and frankly quite lazy person 11:27 * Jordach purrs at asie 11:27 * sfan5 meows at asie 11:27 asie bleh 11:28 asie I do feel a bit better than usual, though 11:28 sfan5 D: 11:28 asie my package from Japan arrived! 11:28 sfan5 what's in it? 11:28 asie a figurine, 3 keychains and a clear file 11:29 asie sfan5: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/OX5WWruzCeK2.jpg pic related 11:29 sfan5 ooh 11:29 sfan5 wtf is wrong with all smartphone cameras 11:30 sfan5 Jordach's pics look like a painting 11:30 sfan5 yours looks like an oil painting 11:30 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 11:30 PenguinDad sfan5: bad jpeg compression maybe? 11:30 asie sfan5: that's because i did selective gaussian to it to hide the ridiculous amount of noise 11:30 asie original pic: https://i.imgur.com/HxcS5M4.jpg 11:30 sfan5 do you even ffmpeg -i pic.jpg -vf hqdn3d pic_out.jpg 11:30 asie no 11:30 asie no i don't 11:31 Jordach asie, can comfirm oil painting https://cdn.mediacru.sh/DV0vnYcN5NA8.jpg 11:31 asie anyway 11:32 asie i plan to take a better quality pic when i come home today 11:33 * Jordach wonders what else asie has in that "package" ;3 11:33 asie Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/8huoUeD.jpg 11:33 asie and a clear file -> http://i.imgur.com/cEEFYs1.jpg 11:33 sfan5 >not for sale 11:33 sfan5 uh 11:33 sfan5 what 11:34 Krock such anime 11:34 asie sfan5: it was a limited edition one 11:34 asie bundled with toranoana orders for volume 9 of the manga 11:34 sfan5 makes sense then 11:34 asie it somehow wound up on suruga-ya 11:35 Jordach brb - fixing home routing 11:39 Krock http://i.imgur.com/DoKJUnh.gif 11:41 Krock http://i.imgur.com/1NUrmnX.gif 11:42 Zeno` why have you got a photo of me in the bottom image? 11:43 Krock Zeno`, turn around 11:43 * Zeno` turns around and sees nothing 11:43 * sfan5 meows at Krock 11:43 Zeno` I still dunno why you posted my photo 11:44 * Krock meows at sfan5 11:44 * Zeno` likes cats 11:44 Zeno` for dinner 11:44 Zeno` may I have a kitty please? 11:45 Krock take Gary. the one from spngebob 11:45 Krock makes meow sounds, too 11:46 * Krock gives MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/cyoHNNA.jpg 11:46 Zeno` I dunno... I want a fresh kitty :( 11:46 sfan5 !cat 11:46 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/qNBpvF3.jpg 11:46 Zeno` ohh! /me takes that one 11:46 sfan5 ^ Zeno` 11:47 Zeno` thanks sfan5! 11:47 Zeno` data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBxQTEhUUExQVFRUXGBwXGRgYFxgdHBwcHBoXHxoXHR8cHiggGhslGxcaIjEhJSkrLi4uHx8zODMsNygtLiwBCgoKDg0OGhAQGywkICQsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsLCwsNywsLCwsLCw3LP/AABEIAMUBAAMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAcAAABBAMBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFAgMEBgABBwj/xABJEAABAgQEAgcFBQYDBgYDAAABAhEAAwQhBRIxQVFhBhMicYGRoRQyUrHwByNCwdEVQ2Jy4fFTkqIzY4KDk7IWc6OzwtIkNET/xAAZAQADAQEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAgMABAX/xAAqEQACAgIBAwQCAQUBAAAA 11:47 Zeno` AAAAAQIRAyESBDFBExQiUTJhgQVScaHxQv/aAAwDAQACEQMRAD8A5aTaERGNUYWmqG8Aax9MKiN7UIbXWHYRqDZOMYYj0+dV9odUpjeNRrEzYepNIZmQ9SaQGGPcYqBDcrWHZ6SXYO1zDdOh1BoXwbyWaUnsDujMM0VbeN+0oTlllXabS/rD2Fpuoc48+adPR3xq0SZibCA/SFHYEWLqrQJ6Q0hUgZbwmG+SsORriylSxeJU1PZh+Vg834YMy8IHVKCh2jcR6TkjgUbKhEmQdImfsOa+g84VLwKbm2hm0LTJs7/9RXfAbDxrFnGGq9nKHDmB1FgMxLuU35wIyQZRYDnC/jGpo0iwjovMVfMiHVdEFn94mH5xE4S+gZgY7Ku6IE1TE98Wuj6LqQC8xN4jL6Iqv96mJKStl3fFIEYZcGCtJPZQ5RIo8BCAQZgiZK6Poa83ygN 11:47 Zeno` qwq6BsjEV5i7NA/ErqeLKno/LH735Rk/o/JV+9MbkjNOtlPQjtCJ3SAMEd0GRgEtJB6wljyhWIYVKmM6zaM5JsXjplY9rLQlFSX4xYk4FIb3jCpWCSAdVev1tDckLxZXaigUE5+yU8jcRBja5hNyYSRFUn5JiVGMSYxUITrBFLRQJHV84g1msKpppSm24hiqmPDPsETndokUm8MyJYIEEKeVw107+URZSKLHQYzTdUnPLSiakZCUj30314wDwtKAtRPuKJDbgElvJ4cyAkCYnKR6wqnnU7kpTlUAbKOnO+8Ru7o6uPa+w1NlyxNTnzFr5kh+zBzDq2nlVB6slaFBhm1vrArEZOVSD2ik6pGj9401h/DaFJUop/CkEgkOHdx32gPaClT0KrAAtQSogOWzbcoZzD4/WCqqVKkZS4SCS19ePGB1JIlqmLSwDaXvztBTTEkmmNF 11:47 Zeno` Q+P17o11o+IwU/ZMvhDgwqX8MG0LTBPWp+L1jYnJ3UYLjC5fwwsYZL+GNaNTAvXJ4n1jYnI4n68YskjAM3uyj5N84VPwMIBJliwJZxf8vOFc4jcWA5U+WNzDxqUc4mzVy5UyUjqyesUlJVYpBPAizBTB976bmhQo2SPr+8a0zVWirmqRwL90YusQNEnyi0iiR8I8vrhCxRp+EfTxrQKKUalD3T6RIl1SdkE+AiwVFIH90eUP0dMOA8o1oNFd9q/wB2rTh/SEqnv+7V5eW0W9NOOHpG/ZuUazUUuZPV/hmGfaVf4Zi6zpG7RFVT8hG5AoqgqVf4avL+kYmqX/hn1i0qkcrwkyeWsbkajjrRkFq6gSg9oFJ5eMNooUkWzDvBjoWRM5oxbBphuDgwlPGM/ZCeJjeoivt5kSkmuGhM+ClNQITdvOJHs6PhjPMh10sgZREE5buzi 11:47 Krock ehm 11:47 sfan5 !kick Zeno` 11:47 PenguinDad Base64 lol 11:48 Zeno` H0HL0iSJzjKX0YMTbztEBaWLbxOP0LZOpawyi5SS9ieXJ4lzU9kEAEKuDvrpAiWsHsqcHY8P7wQoKecwzJWJZ0U1vDvjOPlFMeRxZhjZG0SkYdNWTkSVsWs0NV2Gz5SCtUpSUhtQGvGWzu9RVZDTSpcuHfjDCEZVO3LuhScRI1loPOEzcQC1khOQto7vxikUzkyTi+xuppEsCksrdJ0PcRBNCJSlj7tJG7voNXYwMp5oDqOu3GHwd024ph2SRKqMMkLUVSwtBBByAhSbclXbxgsKmUhITl7WqsiQw5s9ucCFV5UAAEggagaDnxhxE4JFgT8R48+cL/ka96Cs2vQsAlCVAAM7keW5gVUB7qSGVcpsMpGtht+bxoTwhTpuDca2MZPzFClm90ueZ0EK40MmD5sxIIbSH1yZhQFmw2A+f00RAnNMS+jgeDj0izVUwCWfraJSlxa 11:48 Krock he should use pastebin for more than 4 lines 11:48 sfan5 !kick Zeno` 11:48 Zeno` VLClJUSCXB1AUUvcBhmSprbGK7MoVP2Tycaf1hNPuW+S3Edo6hpKwNie+4EESvq6VI3Ivfc3PzgAKOY5AIvYwQrKh5QSbKFiPz5iNKKtV9mjJpO/oM4LJEuUlTdpYc+Og8mgxLWSLEMfOAUmoBly20ypHoA0Qa/EpqJ6GLI7NtjdjHO4OcmdCmoRRYpym95Vzozc2f64QTwPDfaqSrlS/9ulQmS1P+IJsn+VQSpL8VcopXSTMVy1DQE6bEkRfvs5oirrlhak9pKGSQ/ZS7sQQbrZmimKHGn9ks87TX0crn1Ux+076EHUHgeBhgTlk6x1fpZ0GnzFrm0olTFEkrk5QFlRuVpLMQp82UkEEkB45jPkzQopVLUhSSxBSUkHgXAYx1nExpTnWNAw4hBPven9jGLkAJzJ2IBB5vfzDRqYBBJPdDYABhQWeEJvwgGodN+EJWkQ2x4 11:48 sfan5 !kick Zeno` 11:48 Krock .. 11:48 sfan5 !ban *@unaffiliated/z3n0 11:49 PenguinDad What did Zeno` smoke? 11:49 sfan5 cats 11:49 sfan5 probably cats 11:50 PenguinDad eee​w burning cats 11:50 sfan5 !unban *@unaffiliated/z3n0 11:50 Zeno` I am VERY sorry 11:50 Zeno` I did mean to paste: http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5ma6iVWvx1qba7fwo1_500.jpg 11:50 Zeno` thanks sfan5 11:51 sfan5 np 11:51 Zeno` now... my sandwich 11:52 * Zeno` puts mustard on it 11:52 Zeno` yummo! 11:52 * sfan5 meows at nyuszika7h 11:52 nyuszika7h hi sfan5 11:52 sfan5 hi nyuszika7h 11:53 * Krock add 1h to nyuszika7h 11:54 nyuszika7h what? 11:54 sfan5 7h as in 7 hours 11:54 sfan5 (what Krock is referring to) 11:54 Krock ^ 12:05 Zeno` My sandwich probably 12:06 Krock sandwho 12:33 Nekrodes I love when logs are like this :þ -> "ERROR[ServerThread]: ANIMALS: BUG !!! didn't find a way out of water, drowning animal" 12:35 PenguinDad interesting bug :D 12:43 Megaf man, Im such a great cook! 12:43 Megaf lol Nekrodes 12:44 Megaf be happy that didnt actually crashed your server 12:46 Megaf Zeno`: That's epic! 12:46 Megaf bye all 12:51 Zeno` what's epic? 12:52 Zeno` let me paste the base-64 data again 12:52 Zeno` just kidding! hah! 12:57 cities anyone use znc that could help me with downloading an external module? (wrong chan I know) 12:58 Zeno` sfan5, come sit on my lap please? 12:58 Zeno` http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5ma6iVWvx1qba7fwo1_500.jpg 13:04 rubenwardy Hi all! 13:05 cities hi' 13:19 * sfan5 curls up to Zeno`'s lap 13:24 * Zeno` places bread onto sfan5 13:29 rickmcfarley lol 13:34 ElectronLibre Good everyone. :) 13:35 SilvaMerner Hi Zeno 13:39 Krock ElectronLibre, ERROR: failed to convert 'class' into string 13:39 ElectronLibre Hmm, which comiler did you use? ^^ 13:40 ElectronLibre *compiler 13:40 Krock any. 13:40 Krock started testing server on port 61562 :) 13:40 ElectronLibre .name is probably better. ^^ 13:41 Krock ERROR: unknown class 'part_of_the_fay' 13:41 ElectronLibre >_> 13:42 Krock :P 13:42 * ElectronLibre has wasted one compilation. 13:42 ElectronLibre .name 13:42 PenguinDad "Good " + $timeofday.get("LOCAL") + " ElectronLibre!" # ;) 13:42 * Krock discovered unified_inventory's new feature of showing item name of hand in the hud 13:43 Krock ERROR: variable '$timeofday' can not be used as class 13:43 Krock :3 13:43 PenguinDad Krock: that's valid ruby code 13:43 Krock ah 13:43 * ElectronLibre launch sudo apt-get remove Krock-compiler . 13:43 Krock ERROR: Unknown comand 'sudo' 13:44 ElectronLibre $su 13:44 Krock INFO: Blocked requests from invalid connection 13:44 ElectronLibre Then, apt-get remove Krock-compiler xD 13:44 SilvaMerner Hi guys 13:44 Krock hi, 13:44 ElectronLibre What distro am I using right now Krock? >_> 13:45 ElectronLibre Hello SilvaMerner. 13:45 Krock Linux 3.16-2-686-pae 13:45 SilvaMerner Some reason I cant get to inchra 13:46 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: Debian? 13:46 SilvaMerner Ok im gonna go to get some mjlk for my mum brb 13:47 Zeno` hi SilvaMerner 13:48 ElectronLibre PenguinDad, so ==> $su ==> $apt-get install sudo && adduser ElectronLibre sudo && exit ==> $sudo apt-get remove Krock-compiler ==> xD 13:48 * SilvaMerner is afk 13:48 rickmcfarley Krock: thanks I need to updated my unified_inventory 13:48 SilvaMerner Owing to my mum wanting some milk btw is SilverCrab online 13:48 PenguinDad Krock: also u r l8 m8 :D 13:52 * Krock gives SilvaMerner /away 13:56 * ElectronLibre gives SilvaMerner /back for when he will want to come back. 13:58 * Krock gives ElectronLibre /away because /back doesn't exist 13:58 ElectronLibre So it could be defined only for my client. 14:05 Silva|ingame Back 14:07 SilvaMerner Back 14:11 CWz SilvaMerner: the chat with all of the servers is that the minetest channel on inchra 14:11 SilvaMerner CWz I tried to get on inchra 14:13 SilvaMerner Plus OldCoder told me to keep this channel handy 14:18 Fritigern !Pacata 14:18 Fritigern Nope, doesn;t work :-) 14:22 SilvaMerner Erthome 14:26 Fritigern !server pacata 14:26 MinetestBot Fritigern: Pacata | 67.170.30.149 | Clients: 0/20, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / pacata | Ping: 174ms 14:26 Fritigern WHEE!!! 14:26 Krock hmm? 14:26 Krock a new server 14:27 Zeno` go Fritigern! 14:27 Fritigern Fine... I'll go *cries* 14:27 Fritigern :-)))))) 14:28 Fritigern I jut hope that my ping and lag stays within reasonabl limits. 14:28 Fritigern Time will tell though 14:29 Krock *joins* 14:29 Fritigern Enjoy! :) 14:29 Krock I hope it's not heavy modded 14:30 Fritigern 159 mods is not too heavy, right? :-) 14:30 * Krock looks at http://servers.minetest.net 14:30 PenguinDad Fritigern: That depends on the weight of a single mod :D 14:31 Zeno` I didn't mean "go" in that sense lol 14:32 Fritigern Zeno`: I know :-) 14:32 Fritigern Anyway, i wil be AFK for a while 14:32 Fritigern (6 month old babies are quite demanding) 14:33 Zeno` have fun? 14:33 SilvaMerner Finally I get back in cos I timed out 14:33 SilvaMerner :) 14:33 Krock k. looks like the server is at ~realtest weight 14:34 SilvaMerner Is SilverCrab online yet 14:34 OldCoder SilvaMerner, ? Is it down? 14:35 SilvaMerner I cant get on some reason 14:35 Amaz OldCoder, all your servers seems down. 14:35 Amaz They're not showing up on servers.minetest.net 14:35 SilvaMerner 4,11 14:35 PenguinDad !c cos(240) 14:35 MinetestBot NameError: name 'cos' is not defined 14:35 PenguinDad !c math.cos(240) 14:35 MinetestBot 0.32578130553514806 14:36 Krock Fritigern, ok. media stopped loading somehow - can't join 14:36 PenguinDad ^ cos of an average timeout :D 14:36 Krock I thpought 250 would be average 14:37 Krock !c math.sqrt(250) 14:37 MinetestBot 15.811388300841896 14:37 Krock !c math.sqrt(250 ** 2) 14:37 MinetestBot 250.0 14:37 Krock looks correct. 14:38 Fritigern "Server: Krock supplied wrong password", which is inbteresting, seeing as it's your first time connecting 14:39 Fritigern Interesting as in "impossible" 14:40 Zeno` !c math.sqrt(1) 14:40 MinetestBot 1.0 14:40 Zeno` !c math.sqrt(1) + 1 - 1 14:40 MinetestBot 1.0 14:40 Zeno` yeah cool 14:40 Krock very. efficient 14:40 Krock !c math.sqrt(math.pow(1, 99)) 14:40 MinetestBot 1.0 14:41 Zeno` !c math.sqrt(-1) 14:41 MinetestBot ValueError: math domain error 14:41 Krock Fritigern, once I entered the wrong one 14:41 Zeno` !c math.sqrt(-1) * math.sqrt(-1) 14:41 MinetestBot ValueError: math domain error 14:41 Krock tried again and media stopped loading after ~2 minutes 14:41 Krock Zeno`, nice try 14:42 Fritigern Krock: I'll clear your password so you can try again 14:42 Zeno` !c math.sqrt(1/0) 14:42 MinetestBot ZeroDivisionError: division by zero 14:42 Zeno` silly bot 14:42 ninnghazad !rainbow suicide! 14:42 MinetestBot 4su7ic8id3e! 14:42 Krock !rev suicide! 14:42 MinetestBot !edicius 14:42 Fritigern Krock: Done, you can try again 14:43 Krock wrong pass?! 14:43 Krock ah you cleared it 14:44 Krock *waits for media* 14:44 Fritigern It keeps saying that you are yusing the wrong pass. 14:45 Zeno` !c math.pow(1024, 1000000000000000000000000000000) 14:45 MinetestBot OverflowError: math range error 14:45 Zeno` silly bot 14:45 OldCoder Amaz, others, I have server restart scripts. But it appears there was a network problem 5 hours ago. My worlds are up; I'll text my host. 14:45 OldCoder Essentially, my worlds will restart 90% of the time if there is a Minetest crash. But not if there is a hardware crash. 14:45 OldCoder Anyway, everything is up for now 14:46 OldCoder 14:46 Krock Fritigern, media stopped again loading... the bar isn't moving forwards 14:46 Krock setting debug level to 4 now 14:47 OldCoder ANNOUNCE: I have more of RedCrab as of last night. A merge will be attempted next week. 14:47 OldCoder The world may go to about 10GB 14:47 sfan5 hooray 14:47 sfan5 \o/ 14:48 Zeno` $ du -h 14:48 Zeno` 9.9G . 14:48 Zeno` mine may hit 10GB as well :/ rofl 14:49 OldCoder 10GB is OK if you have the hardware. Or you can prune nether or mines. 14:50 Zeno` well... it had better be ok! 14:53 CWz is redcrab server self hosted or hosted on a a service 14:58 Krock possibly selfhosted 15:04 realtinymonster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkmeoYKYctw <-- may be considered nsfw 15:04 realtinymonster !title 15:04 MinetestBot realtinymonster: D*ck Maintenance - Banned Commercial! - YouTube 15:05 realtinymonster hi pro 15:05 realtinymonster fail 15:05 realtinymonster hi proller 15:07 proller hi 15:21 ninnghazad is there a callback for when entities get unloaded cause they are too far away? 15:22 PenguinDad realtinymonster: Why would you post videos which may be considered not safe for woona? :'( 15:23 realtinymonster PenguinDad: haha 15:25 realtinymonster PenguinDad: you may like this one better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TywmpMQYojs 15:31 Amaz !title 15:31 MinetestBot Amaz: The Assumption Song - Oney Cartoons - YouTube 15:36 realtinymonster heh 15:39 PenguinDad Meh I prefer this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTXOSGzE6gk 15:42 Krock !title 15:42 MinetestBot Krock: Archie - Manifestation - YouTube 15:42 Krock !c math.sqrt(math.pow(99, 5)) 15:42 MinetestBot 97518.71871081983 15:53 realtinymonster https://plus.google.com/103876278794381402383/posts/h1ehEUKnK1K 15:54 ninnghazad PilzAdam: do you have any kind of unloading-prevention implemented in your carts mod? 16:03 realtinymonster !tell 16:03 MinetestBot realtinymonster: Need a nickname... 16:03 realtinymonster !tell cities I missed you! 16:03 MinetestBot realtinymonster: yeah, yeah 16:16 Krock I wonder if a Intel HD graphics 2000 chip would be enough for minetest 16:19 realtinymonster with updated drivers it should 16:22 realtinymonster Minetest works on most things 16:36 PilzAdam ninnghazad, no, IIRC 16:39 Krock realtinymonster, oke 16:50 SaltyDog001 those running servers, how much memory do you have? I'm trying it with 1 gig but server seems to lag after a while. Thanks. 16:55 * zat kaeza 16:55 zat ...de kaeza 16:56 realtinymonster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh3_LtaOxqQ 16:57 Krock SaltyDog001, depends how heavy modded your server is 16:57 Krock mine stays at 250 MB memory usage 16:57 Krock !title 16:57 MinetestBot Krock: PON3 - Vinylicious - YouTube 16:57 realtinymonster such bass drops 16:58 SaltyDog001 ok thanks. 16:58 zat thats like the lowest form of electronic music yet one of the most popular ones 16:59 realtinymonster yep 16:59 realtinymonster I haven't actually thought about that 16:59 zat lol flame didnt work ¬¬ 17:01 realtinymonster lol 17:01 realtinymonster I am immune to flames 17:02 realtinymonster "Hey, if you drop the bass, why don't you pick it up? Somebody might trip on it.." 17:02 zat thats called inflamable 17:02 PenguinDad Swag Level: 4/20 https://soundcloud.com/haveanartattack/this-day-aria-aa-remix :D 17:02 zat not-flammable 17:03 zat bronys give me canzur 17:03 proller zat, some liquid problems was solved in freeminer 17:03 PenguinDad *bronies 17:03 proller and now processing speed 30000-50000 nodes per second 17:04 realtinymonster PenguinDad: such trap 17:04 PenguinDad many airhorn 17:04 realtinymonster yeah 17:04 Calinou_ uninflammable 17:04 realtinymonster lel 17:04 zat proller: but freeminer isnt compatible with minetest 0.4.10 clients 17:04 realtinymonster that would be flammable 17:05 zat thats like !!flammable 17:05 PenguinDad I am not uninflammable :P 17:06 realtinymonster PenguinDad: yay 17:09 Hobodium At least some of you are merely flammable, I am reflammable 17:10 zat I am not in group:flammable 17:19 Brains Anybody know if there is a game play reason why supply converters in technic are "dumb" (ie, they just consume EUs regardless of demand)? 17:20 * Brains was shampooing carpets and mopping floors... Not quite as effective as showers for letting the mind percolate, but you do what you got to... 17:23 Hobodium To teach you an important lesson of unplugging your appliances to avoid power leeching 17:24 proller zat, what?? current master fully compatible with mt. 17:32 realtinymonster brb 17:37 Krock proller, are you runing the sky server? 17:37 proller yep 17:37 kaeza greetings 17:37 Krock then please update it to master, the chunks won't draw when I join 17:38 proller where you spawning ? 17:38 proller and what about "World" server 17:38 proller sky have some broken chunks 17:39 Krock nvm I can see it now - last time was someone else online and it was bugged somehow 17:40 Krock at spawn (0, 0, 0) btw 17:43 Krock proller, I can connect to them now and the first chunk is drawn.. 17:43 Krock my PC might be a reason for the timing out after that chunk 17:48 cities sky server? 17:48 cities whats that 17:52 proller fm uses unique technic in block sending ;) 17:52 proller it wirks with mt, but mt can lag first secnds 17:53 * sfan5 meows at proller 17:57 PenguinDad And is the wirkung good? :P 18:07 proller PenguinDad, with fm client it allows huge view ranges and very fast world loading 18:17 blaise engrish much? 18:18 blaise Sokomine: sup? 18:22 Krock proller, does it send the blocks over luftpost? 18:22 proller pidgin post 18:23 Krock !g pidgin post 18:23 Krock MinetestBot! 18:23 Krock sfan5, she is gone again :( 18:26 Megaf Does anyone here have a raspberry pi? 18:26 Megaf I made a build of minetest for RPi 18:26 blaise I've had my raspberry pi backordered for almost 3 years now 18:26 blaise I don't believe they're ever going to send it 18:27 Megaf three years!? 18:27 Megaf wow 18:28 Hobodium I have an raspi. Also, there shouldn't be backorders that long, something has gone wrong unless you live in a country that doesn't believe in electronics 18:28 blaise yeah, it's disgusting 18:28 kilbith Megaf: complilation finished ? 18:28 Megaf kilbith: yep 18:29 kilbith what happened ? 18:29 Megaf kilbith: Now I need to find a way to upload it from my rpi 18:29 Hobodium blaise: who did you order it from? 18:29 kilbith it works ? 18:29 Megaf kilbith: I can't test, I need people to test it for me 18:29 kilbith I can 18:29 Megaf I will upload it to my github 18:30 kilbith ok, lemme know when it's done 18:30 SaltyDog001 Can anyone recommend a vps provider? thanks 18:30 blaise Hobodium: I can't even remember, I would have to find my order confermation email 18:30 blaise it was $99.00 18:30 blaise I should have ordered a minipc 2 18:30 blaise or something 18:31 Hobodium Geeze, sounds like you got scammed or something. Or did you buy a bundle of some sort? 18:31 Megaf SaltyDog001: linode.com 18:32 blaise nope, no bundle.. just the raspberry pi, the case, and a power supply 18:32 Megaf SaltyDog001: there is even a community around it 18:32 blaise oh well 18:33 Megaf kilbith: Im uploading it now 18:33 kilbith ok 18:33 Megaf blaise: 99 usd? that was really expensive 18:33 Megaf thats more exepnsive than my quad core arm 18:33 Megaf my ODroid U3 where I run my server 18:33 kilbith +30$ of you want to connect the raspi on a old VGA screen... 18:33 kilbith if* 18:34 blaise I already decided to go with something else 18:34 Megaf blaise: and by the way, bees mod cause lots of lag 18:34 Megaf Writing objects: 66% (2/3), 2.86 MiB | 43 KiB/s 18:34 blaise Megaf: :( 18:34 blaise I really like the bees 18:34 proller new firefly rk3288 cost ~130$ and it 50x faster than pi 18:34 Megaf So do I 18:34 Megaf ask him to fix it 18:35 proller kilbith, no, hdmi-vga = 5-10$ 18:35 Megaf $ du -hs MinetestPi-Raspbian/minetest.tar.gz 18:35 Megaf 13M MinetestPi-Raspbian/minetest.tar.gz 18:35 Megaf proller: I managed to compile minetest client on my Pi 18:36 kilbith proller: usually a vga-hdmi converter cost >$20 18:36 Megaf it took 109 minutes 18:36 SaltyDog001 Megaf: thanks 18:36 kilbith Megaf: upload done ? 18:36 Megaf SaltyDog001: they have the fastest support I have ever seen 18:37 Megaf kilbith: Writing objects: 66% (2/3), 8.73 MiB | 42 KiB/s 18:37 SaltyDog001 Megaf: ok I will check it out. Thanks again. 18:37 * kilbith cross his fingers... 18:38 Megaf SaltyDog001: no problem, I really like them. They have a fantastic IRC channel with a really useful community 18:39 Megaf SaltyDog001: irc.oftc.net #Linode 18:39 SaltyDog001 Megaf: thanks, looking at plans now. 18:39 cities oftc sounds familiar 18:39 cities I feel like I been there 18:39 Megaf kilbith: https://github.com/Megaf/MinetestPi-Raspbian 18:39 blaise I kinda want one of these.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157475 18:40 kilbith Megaf: will try now 18:40 blaise I dunno though 18:40 Megaf Hobodium: if you want to help testing my build of minetest for raspberies, https://github.com/Megaf/MinetestPi-Raspbian 18:40 Megaf kilbith: just download, extract and bin/minetest 18:40 petrusd987 Megaf, I have Arch Linux on my RPi, is that okay? 18:40 Hobodium I'll save it, although I won't be able to test it until I get home from work just so you know 18:40 Megaf I already configured it to use opengles 18:41 Megaf petrusd987: I have no idea, try please 18:41 kilbith downloading... 18:41 Megaf I have no idea if it would even work on Raspbian 18:41 Hobodium Well, raspbian is what my spare one has so I will check that outfor you tonight hopefully 18:42 Megaf Hobodium: it may work on other distros 18:42 Megaf so, does it works? 18:45 kilbith Megaf: what's the package name for libEGL.so ? 18:45 kilbith i don't have that 18:45 Megaf hm 18:45 kilbith libegl ! 18:45 kilbith i found 18:46 Megaf if someone manage to run my build, tehn later on I will try to compile a static version, so it can run on all distros 18:47 Megaf kilbith: any luck? 18:47 petrusd987_ Would you need anyone to make distro-specific packages? 18:47 kilbith Megaf: missed some libs, I'm installing them 18:48 Megaf kilbith: ok 18:48 kilbith oooucch 18:49 Megaf petrusd987: that would be great, but first it needs to work 18:49 kilbith I enabled OpenGL ES in the client, heavily crashed, i have to kill the program 18:49 petrusd987_ Megaf: It loaded... sorta 18:49 petrusd987_ I think mine crashed too 18:49 kilbith OpenGL ES 1* 18:49 Megaf kilbith: it was already enabled 18:50 Megaf try version 2 18:50 petrusd987_ How do you switch versions? 18:50 kilbith Megaf: nope, OpenGL by default 18:51 kilbith Megaf: here when I re-started the client with OpenGL ES 1 enabled : http://paste.debian.net/125419/ 18:51 kilbith I can't access to the client now, OpenGL ES make heavy shit 18:52 kilbith can I start the client in command with OpenGL ES 2 ? 18:53 Megaf hm, opengles should be enabled 18:54 kilbith I found a setting in minetest.conf to switch on opengl es 2 18:55 kilbith hmm no, not works 18:55 kilbith still opengles 1 19:01 kilbith Megaf: finally I found the setting to switch on OpenGL ES 2, heavy crash again : http://paste.debian.net/125420/ 19:01 Megaf petrusd987: did it at least open? 19:02 petrusd987_ Megaf: I tried switching to OpenGL ES 2 in the config file and now it's giving me errors about a missing vertex shader file "../../media/Shaders/COGLES2Solid.vsh" 19:02 Megaf hm 19:02 Megaf it might be because you are in Arch or you have some lib missing 19:03 petrusd987_ What media directory is it referring to though? 19:06 kahrl petrusd987_: the one in the ogl-es branch of irrlicht 19:06 petrusd987_ kahrl: So I have the wrong version of irrlicht? 19:06 kahrl maybe 19:07 kahrl or installed it in the wrong place 19:07 Megaf I will compile a static version of minetest 19:07 petrusd987_ OK, I'll look into that 19:08 Megaf kahrl: I wonder if cmake ../../ -DVERSION_EXTRA=MinetestPi -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_GLES=1 -DIRRLICHT_INCLUDE_DIR=../../../irrlicht/include -DIRRLICHT_LIBRARY=../../../irrlicht/lib/Linux/libIrrlicht.a -DENABLE_SOUND=0 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=0 -DENABLE_CURL=0 -DENABLE_REDIS=0 -DCMAKE_EXE_LINKER_FLAGS="-static -lGLESv1_CM -lEGL" -DBUILD_SERVER=0 will build a static version, and if that means that it will include libegl and irrlichs libs that it needs to run 19:09 kahrl Megaf: what's the point of static linking? 19:09 kahrl IIRC some libraries don't work if linked statically 19:12 zat kaeza: ping 19:24 CWz question why is the fast key called the use key? 19:38 Hobodium What is a fast key? 19:38 blaise it makes you run, if you have the fast privlege 19:39 ElectronLibre Good bye everyone :). 19:42 OldCoder What is a recommended minimum animals configuration? Delete what? 19:47 Sokomine OldCoder: which animals? sapiers? remove the vombies. especially their burning animation 19:47 blaise XD 19:50 zat kaeza: ping 19:50 zat kaeza: plz, I dont want to timeout again... 19:51 Megaf kahrl: I want static linking so it can run on any Raspi distro 19:51 blaise yes, static libs are important 19:53 kaeza zat, pong 19:54 zat kaeza: pong 19:55 zat kaeza: yesterday what did you want me to elaborate on? 19:56 kaeza cooking recipes should accept a table of itemstrings just like shapeless 19:57 sol_invictus is it possible to get currently shown formspec string? 19:58 kaeza sol_invictus, nope, but depending on what you're trying to do, there may be other ways 19:59 OldCoder Sokomine, anything else? 19:59 sol_invictus kaeza: I'm trying to open some pages of unified_inventory with show_formspec method 20:00 OldCoder Sokomine, also, RedCrab is up. I'm proceeding with SilverCrab regardless 20:00 OldCoder RedCrab is not reliable 20:00 OldCoder When a world can simply disappear, it needs to move 20:00 OldCoder Erthome is creating an updated mods list now 20:00 sol_invictus kaeza: it kinda works, but some buttons don't work and I can't figure out why 20:01 kaeza sol_invictus, code? 20:02 kahrl Megaf, but wouldn't the egl libraries have to be hardware or distro specific anyway so static linking won't help? 20:02 OldCoder Anybody suggest other animals to delete? 20:02 OldCoder And is there a non-Sapier mod which is stable? 20:02 zat kaeza: I want to be able to cook coal and an iron lingot together and get steel 20:02 OldCoder What do people use? 20:02 Megaf kahrl: well, it is a specific hardware 20:02 kaeza zat, look at technic alloy furnace code 20:02 sol_invictus kaeza: http://pastebin.com/YJr5z8Rt 20:03 zat actually, all crafts should be any size 20:03 zat not just 3x3x3 max 20:03 Krock o/ a pastebin user 20:03 kahrl Megaf: so the raspi never changes? 20:03 Megaf its always the same CPU and GPU 20:03 sol_invictus o Krock, I have something for you 20:04 Krock sol_invictus, why once minetest and once core? 20:04 Krock don't you want to use minetest.env: too? 20:04 Krock :P 20:04 Megaf kahrl: the biggest change was they doubled the amount of RAM, from 256 MB do 512 MB 20:04 kahrl anyway, making a binary that works on all distros is a PITA, so people generally make one for each 20:04 sol_invictus Krock, lol didn't notice 20:04 kahrl (or just publish the source and let distributors figure out the packaging) 20:05 Krock sol_invictus, blame you. only THREE lines! 20:05 Megaf kahrl: I will be really happy if it works on Raspbian 20:05 kilbith +1 20:05 deasanta hi 20:05 Miner_48er hi 20:05 Krock ih 20:05 sol_invictus Krock: I accidentally the whole thing https://github.com/donat-b/landrush/blob/master/hud.lua 20:05 Megaf ji 20:06 Krock uuh. 20:06 Krock with shared players, too 20:06 zat kaeza: you know who can help in making such a feature built in? 20:06 sol_invictus It doesn't break the hud anymore! 20:06 deasanta does anyone know if we will get setpitch for entity soon ? 20:07 deasanta http://dev.minetest.net/LuaEntitySAO 20:07 Krock deasanta, when collision boxes are dynamic? 20:07 PenguinDad deasanta: It's very unlikely that we'll get this soon 20:07 deasanta whats the reason ? physics ? 20:08 Krock developers 20:08 Krock kaeza, aargh! http://wiki.minetest.net/index.php?title=Troubleshooting&curid=660&diff=4945&oldid=4944 20:09 deasanta i was playing with making the head look up and down - can do side to side now but cant set pitch - does not need physics - can be nonphysic 20:09 kaeza sol_invictus, https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/blob/master/register.lua#L345 20:09 Krock pitch would be interesting for carts 20:10 deasanta yes :) 20:10 kaeza ^ also roll (for curves) 20:10 Krock well, use setyaw for smooth curves 20:11 kaeza I mean rotate along the Z axis (like the cart "leaning" outward) during curves 20:11 Krock oh. 20:12 Krock well that would be better done in clientside 20:12 Krock *on 20:12 deasanta what can we do with LuaEntityCAO ? 20:12 kaeza zat, it was discussed before, and rejected 20:13 zat kaeza: what exactly? 20:13 Krock deasanta, try setting it to nil and look what happens 20:14 kaeza zat, adding more "crafting types", or modifying the current ones 20:15 zat kaeza: what I suggest is to not limit the size of recipes 20:16 zat so, if I need a bigger one, I make a crafting table for that 20:16 zat or a big furnace 20:16 sol_invictus kaeza: can you elaborate please? 20:16 deasanta Krock: tnx 20:16 Krock np. lol 20:17 Krock zat, big furnace is an interesting idea. two fuel slots and one input slot -> double speed 20:18 zat Krock: big furnaces for making alloys or just mix stuff 20:18 Krock oh 20:18 zat what I suggest would not break anything or add new recipes 20:19 zat I meant, crafting types 20:19 zat lol 20:19 blaise how can I get a /spawn command? 20:19 Hobodium Is there a mod that has multi-block machines that has code I can look at? 20:19 zat Hobodium: technic I think 20:21 Hobodium What is the multi-block thing in question I would look for in technic? 20:21 deasanta big furnace = forge ? 20:21 zat Hobodium: its a big stuff to store water 20:21 zat or was it in the pipowerks mod? 20:21 kaeza sol_invictus, use the function I linked if you want to switch pages 20:22 zat pipeworks* 20:22 Krock http://www.centennialhomes.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/10268594_10202790239749558_549554138791956131_n.jpg 20:22 zat deasanta: there could be different furnaces for different stuffs 20:22 Hobodium Thanks zat, I'll look into that 20:22 zat lol 20:22 sol_invictus kaeza: I'm not switching them, I opening the formspec 20:23 kaeza sol_invictus, switch == open/show 20:23 sol_invictus kaeza: I tried this function, it does nothing 20:24 sol_invictus well, it switches the page, but if inventory is closed it's not opened 20:25 sol_invictus or I need a way to prevent formspec closing when hitting enter in field 20:25 sol_invictus what I wanted is to avoid pressing that button 20:26 Brains Hobodium: Would the technic nuclear reactor count? Single block machine but it apparently depends on layers of blocks around it. (I haven't built one so no direct experience.) 20:27 blaise Sokomine: is my server unresponsive? 20:28 Krock !server blaise 20:28 Hobodium Brains: I guess I should have been more specific: I mean something that is a single machine but is created out of multiple blocks and once the proper configuration exists it pops into being. As opposed to a single block which functions but requires other blocks to be used effectively. 20:28 Krock !MinetestBot 20:28 blaise !server MidnightSystems 20:28 Krock :( minetestbot gone 20:28 blaise lol 20:28 Krock We'll miss you. 20:28 kaeza sol_invictus, oh I see now. the buttons *do work*, but clicking them only changes the player's inventory 20:29 Krock Rest in Pies 20:29 Brains Hobodium: Nothing comes to mind but now I'm interested in whatever you find... 20:29 Hobodium Brains: I'm actually kind of hoping nobody has tried it yet (in minetest). I'd love to implement something unique. 20:30 Krock !server MidnightSystems 20:30 MinetestBot Krock: No results 20:30 Krock ^ blaise 20:30 blaise indeed 20:30 Krock ty sfan5 20:30 sol_invictus kaeza: ah, that's why it's not working 20:30 Brains Hobodium: Go ahead then, I'll wait here. 20:30 * sfan5 meows at Krock 20:30 Krock blaise, alt + f4? 20:31 zat meow at me plz 20:31 sfan5 no 20:31 * Krock oe zat 20:31 Krock s/oe/ow/ 20:31 Hobodium I see your game, Brains. Fine, I can play the role of brawn! 20:31 blaise Krock: I don't use windows 20:31 zat damn 20:31 blaise Krock: the server is also on a dedicated linux server 20:31 Krock zat, /meow wasn't a valid command, so I had to use sometihng other 20:32 zat lol 20:32 sfan5 blaise: alt + f4 works with some WNs 20:32 sfan5 WMs* 20:32 Krock blaise, but Ctrl + C should work in a console window 20:32 blaise ctrl-c, ctrl-x, ctrl-b 20:33 blaise shift-pause 20:33 blaise what are we talking about again? 20:33 sol_invictus rm -rf --no-preserve-root / 20:33 kaeza sol_invictus, try poking around in #minetest-technic 20:34 sol_invictus kaeza: aha, thanks, gonna try later 20:35 sfan5 !tell BlockMen sfan5, (and other MTgame devs) please can boats mod be fixed by merging my pull https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/328 it's been tested and fine tuned for hours, works like a dream. best to test in my 'canyon' river mod as that has extreme water level changes 20:35 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when BlockMen is around 20:35 blaise is rollback_check supposed to bring a minetest server to a screaching hault? 20:35 sfan5 no 20:35 Krock blaise, how big is the rollback file? 20:36 blaise I dunno where it would be, using leveldb 20:36 sfan5 rollback.sqlite 20:36 sfan5 in the world folder 20:36 Krock rollback is still sqlite3 20:44 Krock Needs more ports to other operating systems: https://github.com/SmallJoker/MT_account_cleanup 20:48 PenguinDad ugh C# 20:49 Krock PenguinDad, you don't need to click it 20:50 sfan5 Krock: you don't need to post it here 20:50 Krock yes but I did :P 20:52 Amaz XD 21:04 blaise anyone know a good spawn mod ? 21:05 blaise Krock: -rw-r--r-- 1 minetest games 1452343296 Oct 9 16:04 rollback.sqlite 21:05 blaise wtf, he quitted 21:06 blaise is that a 1.4GB rollback? 21:06 blaise gawd dayum~ 21:06 blaise it's bigger than my map! 21:06 blaise wtf 21:07 ShadowNinja -rw-r--r-- 1 minetest minetest 3.2G Oct 9 05:03 rollback.sqlite 21:07 ShadowNinja Map's 3.5GiB. 21:13 Miner_48er linuxgaming's map 9 GB 21:22 blaise does it typicly take a long time for /rollback_check ? 21:23 PenguinDad blaise: with a rollback.sqlite of that size it's not unusual 21:23 ShadowNinja blaise: Yes, depends on you parameters. 21:23 ShadowNinja your* 21:24 ShadowNinja Eg, a 1x1x1 search area with a long search period and a high limit will take very long. 21:24 sfan5 blaise: if you just want to find out who touched what last use this: https://github.com/sfan5/minetest-nm 21:25 blaise it was a /rollback_check 1 999999999 21:25 blaise it turned up no results 21:25 blaise trying to find out who placed this massive mansion hanging off the edge of a cliff near the spawn point 21:26 blaise Sokomine chewed me out for building a cobble stone structure for the spawn point 21:26 sfan5 (my mod does exactly what you need 21:26 sfan5 ) 21:26 blaise ty 21:27 blaise sfan5: should I mv minetest-nm nm 21:27 blaise ? 21:31 blaise trespasser 21:50 Lenore_nevermore hello 21:54 jin_xi hi 21:54 Hobodium Howdy 21:54 Lenore_nevermore hi jin_xi 21:54 Lenore_nevermore Hi Hobodium 21:54 Lenore_nevermore hm 21:55 Lenore_nevermore what happened to the server list? 21:57 Lenore_nevermore anyone know? 22:09 ShadowNinja Lenore_nevermore: I don't know yet. 22:10 ShadowNinja Lenore_nevermore: Um, it seems to be working now.. 22:11 Lenore_nevermore Cool 22:11 Lenore_nevermore Why was it down before? 22:11 Lenore_nevermore iirc minetest.net was down too 22:11 Lenore_nevermore might my because im on 3g 22:13 hisforever What is this area is not protected , I was laying a block with a design on it when this poped up? 22:14 ShadowNinja Lenore_nevermore: I'm not sure why it was down before. 22:14 hisforever I'm in single player mode 22:14 Lenore_nevermore hm 22:14 Lenore_nevermore alright then 22:14 Lenore_nevermore it's up now 22:14 ShadowNinja hisforever: What? 22:15 hisforever A box came up sayint this area is not protected? 22:15 hisforever saying 22:16 ShadowNinja hisforever: What mods do you have installed? 22:16 hisforever I'll do a scerrn shot brb 22:17 Lenore_nevermore My nickname is rather long 22:17 LenoreNVM that'll do 22:19 hisforever http://imgur.com/rsWIJFB this is what I'm getting? 22:20 LenoreNVM I don't know, is it? 22:20 blaise lol 22:20 hisforever never saw such an error 22:20 hisforever is VanessaE around? 22:21 LenoreNVM I dunno, is she? 22:21 LenoreNVM tell me when it gets annoying 22:22 hisforever her name is up on voard lol 22:22 blaise it was annoying before you joined the channel 22:23 hisforever I'll brb later God bless 22:27 LenoreNVM god bless you sfan5 22:27 LenoreNVM sorry that was wierd 22:31 LenoreNVM hi jojoa1997 22:31 Hobodium Sorry that you have to feel sorry 22:31 jojoa1997 :O 22:31 jojoa1997 My name! 22:32 jojoa1997 hi LenoreNVM 22:32 LenoreNVM godbless you jojoa1997 22:32 LenoreNVM why 1997? 22:32 jojoa1997 cause 22:32 LenoreNVM why not 1337? 22:32 LenoreNVM jojoa1337 22:32 jojoa1997 I hate that term for elite 22:32 LenoreNVM 1337 looks like a ferrati 22:32 jojoa1997 !lynch LenoreNVM 22:32 LenoreNVM if you squint 22:33 LenoreNVM !ping 22:33 jojoa1997 oh this isnt ##werewolf 22:33 LenoreNVM No bots, eh 22:33 Hobodium jojoa, what if you just really liked the Hundred Years War? 22:33 LenoreNVM hi emeralds 22:33 emeralds im shiny 22:33 LenoreNVM no 22:33 LenoreNVM you're green 22:34 LenoreNVM You're Be3Al2(SiO3)6 22:38 LenoreNVM hi jojoa1997 22:39 LenoreNVM well that was nasty of you 22:43 Hobodium That is just how he rolls 22:44 LenoreNVM hi 22:44 LenoreNVM ye 22:44 LenoreNVM badass 22:48 iqualfragile hi kids 22:49 LenoreNVM hi kids 22:49 LenoreNVM I think you missed an s 22:53 LenoreNVM hackers 22:53 LenoreNVM hackers everywhere 22:53 LenoreNVM un drowning in boooooredom 22:56 LenoreNVM hi [I typed skid but this auto replace put this useful statement there instead. Tell me I was naughty] 22:56 LenoreNVM That is dang useful 22:57 TriBlade9 huh? 22:58 LenoreNVM teh auto replace 22:58 TriBlade9 skid? 22:58 LenoreNVM try typing teh in hexchat 22:58 TriBlade9 teh 22:58 TriBlade9 Pfft 22:58 LenoreNVM lol 22:58 TriBlade9 I use a custom irc client :P 22:58 LenoreNVM not hex then -.- 22:58 TriBlade9 :/ 22:58 TriBlade9 Imma get back to working on my game 22:58 LenoreNVM teh 22:58 LenoreNVM okaytrh 22:59 LenoreNVM|PISS OOPS CAPS LOCK BROKE 23:01 LenoreNVM|RestRo Thou shalt go now 23:01 LenoreNVM|RestRo Thou shalt go no 23:01 LenoreNVM|RestRo sorry 23:01 LenoreNVM|RestRo \o 23:14 SaltyDog001 Megaf: were you the one that told me about Linode? 23:15 SaltyDog001 does it take a while for a new server to appear in the list?