Time Nick Message 00:09 Fritigern I was wondering... This is in the error trapping routine: print("Error", r.status). r.status appears to be an int, shouldn;t it be typecast to a str? 00:11 Fritigern iqualfragile, am i correct? 00:12 iqualfragile Fritigern: ignore it im almost done rewriting it 00:12 Fritigern My programming/scripting skills are limited to LSL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linden_Scripting_Language 00:12 Fritigern I know, but, was i correct? 00:12 Fritigern I am trying to understand the code here 00:13 Fritigern And i am also trying to understand why the errortrapping fails in that script 00:20 iqualfragile Fritigern: no, pythons print can print int 00:31 Fritigern Pfff.... Nobody wanted to be Rubies 00:32 thefamilygrog66 Is it possible to remove objects from within a specific radius? 00:34 Fritigern IIRC it is possible with worldEdit 00:34 iqualfragile minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/api/get.json.php?getlist&page=1&outformat=base64&per_page=1 is extremly unresponsive 00:34 iqualfragile i have trouble testing 00:34 thefamilygrog66 Hmm, I could be wrong, but I think worldedit only affects nodes, not objects 00:34 jin_xi thefamilygrog66: there is minetest.get_objects_inside_radius(pos, radius) 00:34 Fritigern iqualfragile: I too am having issues connecting (just tried it) 00:35 thefamilygrog66 jin_xi: yes, I'm using that to discover objects within a radius, but I'm not sure how to then remove said objects 00:36 Fritigern iqualfragile: Pinging the site results in 100% packetloss for me, and mtr can not resolve the end point either 00:37 jin_xi thefamilygrog66: you call remove() on them. 00:38 thefamilygrog66 that seems simple enough, thanks 00:38 dhasenan_ What happens if one of them is the player and you try to remove it? 00:38 dhasenan_ I suddenly want to try it. 00:38 thefamilygrog66 mind=blown 00:38 thefamilygrog66 haha 00:39 jin_xi local objects = minetest.env:get_objects_inside_radius(pos, 0.5) 00:39 jin_xi for _, obj in ipairs(objects) do obj:remove() 00:39 jin_xi end 00:40 dhasenan_ Nothing, apparently. Can't kill people that way :( 00:40 thefamilygrog66 thanks jin_xi 00:42 thefamilygrog66 Excellent, I'm getting somewhere with this now... 00:43 iqualfragile Fritigern: http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?2dbd0e15a7459258#tSFLH2OM+3Aka22zBUTIsiPs2oun9EPf2IXP1I2v1KU= 00:44 iqualfragile but its untested as i can't test without the server being up 00:47 Fritigern I have saved it, and i will try as soon as the server is back. Thank you! 00:50 iqualfragile Fritigern: if errors exist: the code should be a lot more readable now, try to fix them on your own and publish your changes 00:50 iqualfragile good night ShadowNinja 00:51 Fritigern I wil try, but can;t make any promises 00:51 iqualfragile ShadowNinja: do you like reading some code? 00:51 iqualfragile gdamn 00:51 iqualfragile shadowzone: ^ 00:51 shadowzone Yes? 00:51 shadowzone Oh yes I do. 00:51 iqualfragile here, read some code, fresh out of the oven: http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?2dbd0e15a7459258#tSFLH2OM+3Aka22zBUTIsiPs2oun9EPf2IXP1I2v1KU= 00:52 shadowzone Thanks. 00:52 iqualfragile shadowzone: try to understand it, you might need to help Fritigern to fix some bugs in it :D 00:53 shadowzone Okay. 00:53 shadowzone Looks like it's for the Minetest DataBase. 00:54 iqualfragile *minetest mod data base 00:54 iqualfragile but no, its for the skins database 00:54 iqualfragile both use json for their api, but mine is actually sane 00:56 iqualfragile about the mmdb: i will fix it as soon as i am back, which will be in one or two days 00:57 iqualfragile gn8 00:58 Fritigern iqualfragile rewrote the scripts becuase the ones included with u_skins (both dmonty's original as well as Krock's) suck eggs and are full of errors 01:26 Brains The atomic weight of Iron is 55.845. 01:26 Brains Heh, wrong window/bad paste. 01:26 Brains Er, in other news, Good evening, everybody. 01:36 thefamilygrog66 howdy 01:50 hisforeverkid Khi 01:51 SaltyDog001 evenin' all :) Will minetest.conf in the mod folder always override the file in .minetest? 02:12 AllEvil669 I'm in need of guidence. I'm trying to do essentally a find and replace upon map creation. Where in the API should I be looking for more info? 02:15 kahrl AllEvil669: like minetest.register_alias("mapgen_stone", "modname:my_fun_stone")? 02:16 thefamilygrog66 AllEvil669, not sure about doing it "upon map creation", but you can register an abm to do it: 02:16 kahrl check mapgen.lua in the default mod for the names of those aliases 02:17 thefamilygrog66 in this example, we're going to replace all dirt_with_grass with cobblestone 02:17 thefamilygrog66 http://pastebin.com/Nq4VYM4j 02:18 AllEvil669 The particular use case I'm trying to do is, replace all dirt blocks that are under water with sand... Before any ores are generated in a new chunk. 02:21 kahrl AllEvil669: I think on_generated runs after the ores, so no chance with that 02:22 AllEvil669 Hmm... That sucks. 02:24 kahrl I don't think it's possible in pure lua unless you do the whole mapgen yourself 02:24 kahrl maybe ask in #-dev 02:24 kahrl * #minetest-dev 02:24 AllEvil669 Thank you. I'll try that. 02:30 thefamilygrog66 I just added Poké Balls to my server: http://i.imgur.com/cE6Qj3A.png 02:31 thefamilygrog66 http://i.imgur.com/K4l08XK.png 03:03 Fritigern !tell iqualfragile Tested the script, but errors. Don;t know why, says NameError: name 'picture' is not defined (line 33) 03:05 Fritigern I think MTB is having an issue with me T_T 04:30 hmmmm http://fougasse.at.cynigram.com/~nfontes/wise_music_crew_beware_ebola.mp3 04:30 hmmmm take safety precations err'yday 04:34 fling Is not there a fine realtime mapper? 04:34 * fling wants a dynmap-like thing 04:39 Fritigern fling: Have you looked in minetest/utils yet? 04:39 fling Fritigern: not yet 04:40 fling Fritigern: I don't have the dir 04:41 Fritigern fling: Alternatively, you could compile minetestmapper yourself. Sources are at https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper 04:41 Fritigern It's mmuch faster than the python script that comes with Minetest 04:42 fling Fritigern: is not it a realtime thing? 04:42 Fritigern You could use cron or tasksceduler to have the progr4am run at, say, 5 minute intervals. Aftr all, dynmap isn;t actually realtime either, it take a while before the tiles get updated. 04:42 paramat hmmmm, new mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10064 finally acheived terrain-following walkable paths in mgv6 04:43 hmmmm haha 04:43 hmmmm i like the bit about the traffic light 04:43 Fritigern paramat: OOOOH! that sounds interesting! I might actually use that on a server, so i won;t have to build them myself ;-) 04:43 fling Fritigern: doh, I wanted dynmap-like thing… 04:43 paramat cool 04:44 Fritigern fling: With minetestmapper, you can get this: https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper 04:46 fling Fritigern: I don't see how to make it to be realtime 04:46 Fritigern As i said, dynmap isn't realtime either. It updates every minute or so. 04:47 Fritigern What dynmap can do, which mtmapper can not, is to render only the updated tiles 04:47 fling Fritigern: no, dynmap updates the image when you change a block. 04:47 Fritigern Is that not what i said? 04:48 argyle Does minetestmapper only work with sqlite? 04:48 fling argyle: no 04:48 Fritigern argyle, yes, even though other databases are supposed to be supported 04:50 argyle Okay. I get "World does not exist." I'm using LevelDB. 04:50 Fritigern I never had it working with leveldb, nor with redis. sqlite3 is the only one that would work 04:55 Fritigern So anyway, fling, dynmap is definitely not real time, open dynmap's configuration.txt and find the value for renderinterval 04:56 Fritigern Real time would mean that there is no delay, but dynmap has a built-in delay. In my case it's 1 second. I believe that the default is more than one second, but i am not 100% sure about that anymore 04:56 fling sfan5: what is the license of minetestmapper? 04:57 Fritigern It's GPL 2.1 04:57 Fritigern https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/blob/master/LICENSE 04:57 fling this page says LGPL-2.1 04:58 Fritigern Fine, LGPL 04:58 fling Fritigern: thanks. 05:00 Fritigern fling: On a different note, i am working on an MT game which is supposed to be as close to MC as possible. You can find it at https://github.com/Fritigern/minetestcraft 05:01 fling Fritigern: thanks. 05:01 Fritigern Speaking of which, i have a commit to make 05:06 Fritigern There, updated 05:09 Fritigern Last night i had a look at other efforts to make a MC-like MT game, and not to sound conceided but it would appear as if i have the closest match so far. 05:36 Fritigern Yup, MinetestBot is in a coma 06:39 fling Fritigern: minetestmapper is doing slow :P 07:56 rub3nwardy Hi all! 08:03 rub3nwardy Quiet in here today... 08:19 Fritigern iqualfragile_: I did have truble with the script. Dont know how to fix. Says NameError: name 'picture' is not defined (line 33) 08:20 iqualfragile_ Fritigern: turn on brain, mainly 08:20 iqualfragile_ have you read the code? 08:20 Fritigern I tried 08:20 iqualfragile_ what does line 29 say? 08:21 Fritigern return data, no idea what that does 08:21 Fritigern I am not a python programmer 08:21 iqualfragile_ yes, the line is off 08:21 iqualfragile_ the error actually happens on line 32 08:21 iqualfragile_ *33 08:22 iqualfragile_ http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?bde11f7e230c6bc3#TRvyL/8eXv/OAb5j6h7URGJmNG5Ru6qFwJy0AolxYFQ= 08:22 iqualfragile_ is a fixed version, that i tested just 2 minutes ago 08:22 Fritigern Ah, okay 08:22 iqualfragile_ but please look at the difference and try to understand what i did 08:24 iqualfragile_ oh, now i know why the line is off: i missread 33 as 30… 08:25 iqualfragile_ fling: minetestmapper is fast enough 08:25 fling iqualfragile_: ok :> 08:26 Fritigern Well, the one difference that i see is line 32, where something is being opened as picture instead of meta. I had already looked at that, changed it from meta to picture, but that didn;t help, so i changed it back. Then i chnged line 33 from picture.write to meta.write, but that too cuased issues. After that i had no idea what elese to try 08:26 fling iqualfragile_: I want it to be dynmap-like 08:27 iqualfragile_ fling: if you want it to update the map as you change the world you will need to write a simple lua mod that catches all changes and writes their chunks to a file 08:27 fling iqualfragile_: why is not it written already? 08:27 iqualfragile_ you can then read that file from outside minetest and run minetestmapper with the coordinates limited to that mapblock 08:28 iqualfragile_ fling: why would it? 08:28 iqualfragile_ nobody besides you needs it 08:28 iqualfragile_ or at least not enught that somebody would have done it 08:28 iqualfragile_ its simple enough 08:28 Fritigern UnboundLocalError: local variable 'response' referenced before assignment (line 44) 08:29 iqualfragile_ Fritigern: in the new code? 08:29 Fritigern Yes. Sorry 08:29 iqualfragile_ hmm… it works for me 08:30 iqualfragile_ ah, yes, obviously 08:30 Fritigern My python is Python 3.4.2rc1+, if it makes any difference (sometimes minor versions do matter) 08:31 Fritigern Should line 44 and 45 be switched? 08:31 iqualfragile_ Fritigern: no, i just cougt and ignored an error 08:31 iqualfragile_ then ignored that there was an error and continued like nothing happened 08:32 iqualfragile_ http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?d8d07d2794bab0c0#6E8zMmuy+9UVusa39kR00eQFVWT+OGHVaJikvGjtVic= 08:32 iqualfragile_ but the dependant code into the try block, so it won't be executed when failing 08:38 Fritigern How can i have the script print a recieved HTTPException? Just use print("HTTP error: " HTTPException) ? 08:45 sfan5 Fritigern: print("HTTPException: %r" % variable) 08:45 sfan5 you can also use %s instead of %r 08:46 Fritigern I googled a bit and went with "except HTTPException as err:" and then " print("Could not get preview", err, file=sys.stderr)" 08:46 sfan5 thats works too 08:46 Fritigern But that doesn;t help much, it only tells me "request sent" 08:47 Fritigern The download keeps failing between skin 95 and 105, and i am trying to find out why 08:48 Fritigern What if.... the site is just being slow, and the HTTP response doesn't come as fast as the script expects it to? Could that be the cause? 08:49 Fritigern Neh, forget that. HTTP is good at waiting 08:49 sfan5 if you have set a timeout that might happen 08:49 Fritigern I donlt think that a tiimeout was set.... 08:51 iqualfragile_ Fritigern: the timeouts are long as fuck per default 08:51 Fritigern That's why i said that HTTPis good at waiting 08:51 iqualfragile_ it works for me without a problem 08:56 Fritigern iqualfragile_: I wish i could say the same 08:56 Fritigern Downloaded preview for skin 95: 200 OK 08:56 Fritigern Could not get preview '' 08:56 Fritigern Could not get preview Request-sent 08:57 iqualfragile_ Fritigern: i don't think thats a fatal error, is it? 08:57 iqualfragile_ Fritigern: is it always number 96? 08:57 Fritigern It only skips everything after the first error. It's fatal enough. and it never went past 105 08:58 Fritigern It now happened on #105 08:58 iqualfragile_ maybe your internet connection is too fast and the server puts you on dos protection mode? 08:59 iqualfragile_ sfan5: tell him how to put a sleep in there, i got to go 08:59 Fritigern I don;t know. If that's the case, then perhaps a short wait loop could be useful 08:59 sfan5 !g time.sleep python3 08:59 Fritigern sleep(time)? Like sleep(0.2) or so? 09:00 Fritigern Oh, close... 09:00 sfan5 MinetestBot! 09:00 MinetestBot sfan5! 09:00 sfan5 !g time.sleep python3 09:00 sfan5 o.o 09:00 Fritigern MTB is being dumb today 09:00 sfan5 Fritigern: https://docs.python.org/3/library/time.html#time.sleep 09:00 sfan5 don't forget to "import time" 09:01 Fritigern Ah, okay. Does that import need to be near the top of the file? Like in C? 09:01 sfan5 it can be anywhere 09:01 Fritigern Okay, giving it a go! 09:01 sfan5 but it is always done at the top 09:02 Fritigern So, that's where it cusomrily goes, but is not required. I will put it there anyway :-)) 09:02 Fritigern If it's good practice, then it's best to start doing that from the start ;-) 09:05 Fritigern Interesting. With sleep, the download errors sooner 09:06 Fritigern sleep(0.2) makes it error at skin #13, and with sleep(1) it errors at #3 09:07 sfan5 magic 09:07 Fritigern commented the sleep line, and now it errored at #89 09:08 PenguinDad many magic very sleep much error wow 09:08 Fritigern I am very puzzled right now 09:09 Fritigern Hi P-daddy 09:11 * rubenwardy is signed in using his IRC client! 09:12 Amaz :D 09:13 sfan5 rubenwardy: logged* 09:13 rubenwardy :/ 09:14 rubenwardy screenie: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/VyDG507cieS5.png 09:14 PenguinDad !title http://git.io/Q1xKzg 09:14 sfan5 wtf MinetestBot 09:15 rubenwardy MinetestBot! 09:15 MinetestBot rubenwardy! 09:15 rubenwardy I guess it has urllib problems 09:15 sfan5 MinetestBot: quit drinking, it's not good for your health! 09:15 Fritigern [20:05:21] [[ Fritigern ]] I think MTB is having an issue with me T_T 09:16 sfan5 !title http://git.io/Q1xKzg 09:16 MinetestBot sfan5: Fix removal of innocent node groups · e278abc · PenguinDad/morefences · GitHub 09:16 sfan5 ^ PenguinDad 09:16 PenguinDad <3 MinetestBot 09:16 MinetestBot <3 PenguinDad 09:16 PenguinDad ^ Fritigern 09:16 Fritigern Wait, is that the same issue that i reported yesterday? the one with sand, desert sand and gravel? 09:17 PenguinDad Fritigern: yes 09:17 Fritigern I didn;t know that MTB succesfully passed it on to you. 09:17 Fritigern Or did he? 09:17 rubenwardy MTB -> MinetestBot? 09:17 sfan5 yes 09:17 Fritigern Yes, but i still like Move the bootie 09:18 Fritigern :-)) 09:18 iqualfragile Fritigern: you can even import something in a function, then its just imported for that function 09:18 PenguinDad Fritigern: yes but on two different channels 09:19 iqualfragile !reinbow test 09:19 iqualfragile !rainbow test 09:19 MinetestBot 4t7e8s3t 09:19 PenguinDad !rheinbow :P 09:19 rubenwardy My IRC client that I wrote doesn't support colors :( 09:19 iqualfragile !regenbogen blurb 09:20 iqualfragile Fritigern: where did you put the sleep? 09:20 Fritigern iqualfragile: Really, i am no programmer. I just hang with them every now and then. What i have figured out so far, with and without help is what you have witnessed here. And that is a lot for me to take in already 09:21 Fritigern I put the sleep between try and the connection.request 09:21 iqualfragile where did you put the sleep? 09:21 Fritigern I figured it needed to wait before making the connectio n 09:23 iqualfragile put it between connection.request("GET", "/skins/1/%i.png" % skin["id"]) and response = connection.getresponse() 09:24 Fritigern Setting sleep to 0.2 secs, that should be a good delay. 09:29 Fritigern Okay, the lower i set the sleep value, the more successful the download appears to be. With time.sleep(0.2) i got to #92, with time.sleep(1) it got to #4 and with time.sleep(0.1) it went to #107. 09:29 Fritigern I'm ready to give up and ask for an archive with all the skins 09:34 fling !rainbow sfan5 09:34 MinetestBot 4s7f8a3n12​5 09:34 fling lol 09:35 rub3nwardy You can try my IRC client: http://urkke0f34704.rubenwardy.koding.io/client 09:37 PenguinDad 05f04l07i08n03g 09:40 Fritigern !rainbow NYAN NYAN NYAN NYAN NYAN NYAN NYAN NYAN NYAN NYAN NYAN NYAN 09:40 MinetestBot 4NYAN7 NYA8N NY3AN N12YAN 6NYAN13 NYA4N NY7AN N8YAN 3NYAN12 NYA6N NY13AN N4YAN 09:41 PenguinDad ニャー ニャー ニャー ニャー ニャー ニャー ニャー 09:41 rub3nwardy u wot mate 09:46 Fritigern P-daddy said "meow" in Japanese 09:47 Fritigern The Hiragana characters translate to the Romaji "Nyā" 09:47 * PenguinDad hands Fritigern a 猫 09:48 Fritigern Someone has set up us the bomb! 09:48 Fritigern (Cats make me think of that) 09:48 PenguinDad Fritigern: exploding cats? 09:48 Fritigern Good evening gentlemen 09:49 Fritigern You have chance to survive make your time 09:50 Fritigern http://www.allyourbasearebelongtous.com/ 09:52 PenguinDad lol 09:53 Fritigern The whole "All Your Base" thing was two firsts for me. My first meme, and my first encounter with Engrish 09:56 Fritigern PenguinDad: HAve you watched the flash vieo? 09:56 Fritigern *video 09:58 iqualfragile fling: have you done the mod? 09:58 PenguinDad nope 09:58 fling iqualfragile: no :D 09:58 iqualfragile fling: why not? 09:58 fling iqualfragile: because I'm not a good lua coder. The only things I do in lua is my awesome config and some apps for it. 09:59 PenguinDad Fritigern: That pond it seems me many multiplied of fishes. Let us amuse rather to the fishing. :D 09:59 fling iqualfragile: idk how to get changed nodes and how to run renderer for them 09:59 Fritigern PenguinDad: Have you been raiding engrish.com? 09:59 iqualfragile fling: for he first one: read the minetest api 09:59 Fritigern :-) 09:59 fling iqualfragile: I also want to get all players coordinates and chat to show the info on the page 10:00 iqualfragile for the 2nd one: use the programming language of your choice to evaluate the file you wrote from the mod 10:01 fling Fritigern: it is awesome! 10:01 PenguinDad Fritigern: not yet ;) 10:02 Fritigern from the site "Plese use the bathtub to guard against the slippery pad, and takes care to fall" :-) 10:02 Fritigern (all typos are mine) 10:03 Fritigern There is danger for sucking..... http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/08/danger-for-sucking.jpg 10:05 Fritigern I can't help it, i find Engrish so darn cute! They are trying so hard sometimes, but then fail completely. It's like watching a baby trying to walk for the first time :-) 10:09 PenguinDad Fritigern: want some fresh crap? http://www.funnymail.com/sites/funnymail.com/files/imagecache/semioriginal/engrish-fresh-crap.jpeg 10:09 Fritigern Yummy!!!! ;-)) 10:15 Fritigern PenguinDad: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4878564608/hFC9DE3BD/ 10:17 PenguinDad Interesting offer http://dudelol.com/DO-NOT-HOTLINK-IMAGES/Engrish.jpg 10:18 Fritigern Somebody has set up the duck the bomb :-) 10:40 Krock PenguinDad, it rhymes 10:41 PenguinDad Krock: Don't grow a hand in a fence! :D http://glitterskies.org/engrish/engrish/grow-a-hand.jpg 10:42 Krock lol 10:42 PenguinDad Beware of the burnt noodles :D http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/09/it-is-burnt-and-nearby.jpg 10:45 Krock PenguinDad, found one too! wow. http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads//2014/10/be-blind.jpg 11:21 Krock !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFrrUJpL7Gs 11:21 MinetestBot Krock: Manfred Mann's Earth Band - The Best Of (full album) - YouTube 11:27 Megaf blaise: ping 11:28 Krock !wiki brighter screen 11:28 MinetestBot No such page. 11:28 Krock hmm. 11:29 Krock !wiki screen is too dark 11:29 MinetestBot No such page. 11:29 Krock ... troubleshooting again. found it. thanks google :/ 11:31 PenguinDad FPTS :D 11:37 Fritigern *SIGH* the skins downloader just won;t work for me. 11:38 * Krock likes shaders 11:38 * Krock converted all clors to grey 11:38 Krock *colors 11:40 PenguinDad Krock: interesting 11:40 Krock it is 12:04 Megaf !tell blaise Bees mod is causing lots of lags on your server 12:04 MinetestBot Megaf: I'll pass that on when blaise is around 12:05 Megaf !server Megaf 12:05 MinetestBot Megaf: No results 12:06 Krock <3 Skins' "For MT" messages 12:19 Megaf Krock: have you ever seen a Megaf at Zenos server? 12:19 Krock Megaf, wasn't online there long time 12:20 Megaf hm, I saw an area with your name there 12:20 Krock true but that doesn't mean I'm active 12:20 Megaf where do you play now a days? 12:20 Krock singleplayer 12:20 Krock modding 12:20 Megaf well, ok then 12:21 Megaf I got to go, bye all 12:21 Krock bye 12:42 Fritigern Anyone running a non-debian based distro? I would like to know if jq is in your repos 12:45 Krock I'm running windows xp 12:45 Fritigern That;s not really a distro, is it? 12:45 Krock don't know 12:48 * Brains is running funtoo but pretty much nothing 'cept minetest_game is in the default repo for that. Haven't looked for a minetest overlay yet... 13:04 Krock http://i.imgur.com/dFVbmTW.png 13:05 Krock way too much growing 13:06 Nekrodes no esta mal como nick, The_Loko :þ 13:06 ElectronLibre Good [night|morning|afternoon|evening|whatever else] everyone. 13:07 shadowzone Lol. 13:07 shadowzone Krock, that is awesome! 13:08 Krock :3 13:14 Krock I wonder if I should publish the mod on the forums - just for lulz 13:15 ElectronLibre Which mod exactly? 13:16 Krock ElectronLibre, the one on the screenshot 13:16 ElectronLibre Which screenshot? 13:17 Krock the one two lines above your join message 13:18 ElectronLibre Ok, I (can't) see.. 13:18 Krock irc.minetest.ru 13:19 shadowzone http://i.imgur.com/dFVbmTW.png <----- this one? 13:19 Krock ^ 13:19 PenguinDad Cacti city :D 13:19 Krock ^^ 13:19 ElectronLibre Thank you. :) 13:20 ElectronLibre Ha! What's that mod? xD 13:21 shadowzone Probably a good ole mapgen mod. 13:21 Krock hmm city? got an idea 13:22 ElectronLibre Too much cactuses for me sorry, but someone could be interested so you should post it. ^^ 13:23 Krock PenguinDad, http://i.imgur.com/ksMt9TV.png 13:24 Krock there's your city 13:24 shadowzone XD 13:24 * shadowzone shakes her head 13:26 * Fritigern hasjust written a skin updater script in bash 13:27 FreeFull Messing around with worldedit? 13:27 shadowzone Nice. 13:27 ElectronLibre Krock : nice city ^^. 13:27 Krock FreeFull, growingmod 13:28 Fritigern shadowzone: Was that for me? 13:29 shadowzone Yeah. 13:29 shadowzone I should start saying your name at the beginning. 13:29 Fritigern In that case, thank you:-) 13:30 ninnghazad how find out if entity returned by get_objects_ is physical? 13:31 Krock physical_state = ? 13:31 Fritigern Oh yeah! I just tested my script properly (clean folders and all) and the download is a LOT more reliable than with any of the python scripts that i have tried so far. 13:31 Krock obj:get_luaentity() 13:31 ninnghazad ah, k, gonna try that 13:32 ninnghazad hm, no obj.physical_state, and no obj:get_luaentity().physical_state 13:33 jin_xi isnt it just physical 13:34 ninnghazad obj:get_luaentity().physical works, thx 13:36 PenguinDad Seems legit http://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/chip-and-dale.jpg 13:40 shadowzone o.O 13:42 rubenwardy Hi all! 13:43 ElectronLibre Hello rubenwardy :). 13:44 shadowzone Hi rubenwardy, how do you do? 13:46 * Brains updated dreambuilder last night and noticed that his mining laser seems to be off this morning... 13:50 asie http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/head/head.c?rev=1.18&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup 13:50 asie People are trying hard to beat Bash's recent record it seems 13:50 PenguinDad heh 13:55 Fritigern I have just created my first Gist. Krock, have a look please : https://gist.github.com/Fritigern/4ad235a0c12d5f818769 13:56 kaeza greetings 13:56 Fritigern Boomshanka! 13:57 Fritigern kaeza: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJLojFJeXmg 13:58 kaeza heh 14:02 Fritigern And now, time for me to get me a snack ;-) 14:02 Krock Fritigern, is it compatible with my u_skins fork and what license is it? 14:05 cities all your base is the first meme I remember 14:06 PenguinDad Krock: IDGAFPL :Ü 14:06 PenguinDad s/Ü/P/ 14:06 Krock .. 14:06 PenguinDad ... 14:23 Fritigern Krock: Yes it is compatible, and i never thought of licensing. Let's say CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0? 14:23 Krock k. 14:25 Fritigern Do however have other people test it before you push it to your repo, there may be bugs or ways to improve that i haven't thought of 14:26 Fritigern I just thought of a way. Test for the presence of the target dir, and if absent, create it 14:27 Fritigern Shouldn't be too hard to do. 14:33 Krock Fritigern: https://github.com/SmallJoker/minetest-u_skinsdb/commit/0d50a38 14:34 Fritigern Coolness! I'm working on a slightly improved version, which will create the target folders, in case they went missing. 14:35 * Krock 's win32 update client contains that all, he smiles. 14:36 * Fritigern knows that Krock's Win32 updater does not work for other systems 14:36 * Krock thinks about mono and wine 14:37 Fritigern I have mono, but if i enter the save path, nothing happens 14:37 Krock hmm, replace all '/' with '\' and put a C: in front :P 14:38 Fritigern Nope 14:38 Fritigern Which is what the client will say to me 14:38 Fritigern Because i have tried that, and many other methods 14:38 Krock oh 14:40 rubenwardy The IRC client I wrote written in HTML5: http://urkke0f34704.rubenwardy.koding.io/rubenirc/ 14:42 ElectronLibre Cool, it works. 14:42 rubenwardy XD 14:42 ElectronLibre_ ^^"... Very good work rubenwardy. 14:43 rubenwardy I haven't added support for side scrolling yet to allow more channels to fit in, or the ability to close a channel 14:43 rub3nwardy I personally find it quite graphically appeasing. 14:44 ElectronLibre_ Ok. And will you add a menu to set some things, like the colors or the speed of the text move? 14:44 rubenwardy Yeah 14:44 rubenwardy More settings will be available 14:44 ElectronLibre_ Cool :). 14:45 rub3nwardy And scrolling up 14:45 Fritigern Krock. I have updated the script. You may want to make a new commit :-) https://gist.github.com/Fritigern/4ad235a0c12d5f818769 14:45 * ElectronLibre meows at ElectronLibre_ . 14:45 rubenwardy Also, closing the client window doesn't disconnect the client from the IRC network 14:46 PenguinDad Never stop the beat! 14:46 * PenguinDad starts dancing 14:46 Krock Fritigern, updated 14:46 Fritigern Awesome soup! 14:47 rubenwardy yeah, part doesn't work 14:47 PenguinDad mmmh soup 14:47 cities rubenwardy, 14:47 cities does your irc client support znc 14:47 cities like 14:47 rubenwardy No, only freenode ATM 14:47 cities ohhh 14:48 rubenwardy Because the irc server settings are hard coded 14:51 cities well if it does one day let me know :) 14:51 Brains rubenwardy: You forgot to tack on "Patches accepted." *grin* 15:03 kaeza it doesn't need "special support" for ZNC. from the point of view of the client, the ZNC instance is just another server 15:04 cities well 15:04 cities I mean fields to actually put in username and all that 15:04 rubenwardy Yeah. It is just that the server address and port are hard coded: https://github.com/rubenwardy/rubenirc/blob/master/server/server.js#L9 15:05 cities and server 15:05 cities and port and a box to check ssl 15:15 Out`Of`Control Hi, any tricks to make tree grow faster? 15:17 Krock haxx the system 15:18 PenguinDad The easiest way to bloat pngs photoshop 15:20 SilvaMerner Hi 15:22 Krock any interests? https://github.com/SmallJoker/growing/ 15:22 shadowzone Hi SilvaMerner. 15:22 shadowzone Wrong channel, btw. 15:22 SilvaMerner Is it? 15:22 SilvaMerner 11lol 15:23 Krock isis.inchra.net ? 15:23 shadowzone Yeah that one. 15:25 SilvaMerner How is this the wrong server 15:27 SilvaMerner Shadowzone 15:27 shadowzone Yes? 15:27 SilvaMerner How is this the wrong server 15:30 shadowzone this is chat.freenode.net Not isis.inchra.net 15:30 shadowzone isis.inchra.net is what your looking for. 15:31 Krock shadowzone, how u know? 15:31 shadowzone How do I know what? 15:31 Krock how do you know what they know about 15:32 shadowzone She is looking for the server #minetest. 15:32 shadowzone The one with all the minetest servers. 15:33 SilvaMerner I cant find it on my list 15:34 SilvaMerner D: 15:35 kaeza SilvaMerner, you need to add it to the network list, or you can connect directly 15:35 shadowzone What list? 15:35 SilvaMerner Yeah im trying to do that 15:35 kaeza not sure how androirc works. try `/server isis.inchra.net` or `/connect isis.inchra.net` 15:36 shadowzone do /server isis.inchra.net 15:36 shadowzone then /join #Minetest 15:36 shadowzone *minetest 15:36 SilvaMerner Im not an irc operater aparantly 15:37 jojoa1997 SilvaMerner you are my irc servant 15:37 shadowzone Neither am I. 15:39 SilvaMerner I think I found the server 15:39 shadowzone You did. 15:39 SilvaMerner Yay 15:40 cities different irc clients have 'lists' 15:42 Calinou happy birthday Minetest (late) 15:46 Krock Calinou, how late? 15:46 shadowzone How old is minetest? 15:48 ElectronLibre 4 years, it was yesterday. 15:48 shadowzone Oh. 15:48 shadowzone Wow. 15:51 Krock Calinou, A question to your moreblocks mod: Could you add a setting to cutdown the stairsplus and circular saw to a minimal version? 15:52 Krock with minimal, I mean a shortened list of slabs and stairs 15:52 Calinou what's the point? 15:52 Calinou saving 0.2 seconds on load? 15:53 Krock well, I like simple/lightweight mods 15:53 Krock :3 15:53 Calinou you can craft without circular saw the basic nodes 15:54 Calinou try messing with one kind of node around 15:54 Calinou it's quite logical 15:54 Calinou you can assemble small nodes together in crafting grid 15:54 Calinou eg. microblock + slab = outer stair 15:54 Calinou (can be shapeless, not always though) 15:54 Krock oh 15:54 Calinou turn small nodes into microblocks by putting them in the grid 15:54 Calinou I need to update documentation on this 15:54 Calinou it's very useful, you only need circular saw for stuff like quarter slabs 15:57 * Krock wonders what a thin microblock slab is good for 15:58 Calinou http://minetest.net/ → the screenshot on main page could be redone (new textures, new lighting) 15:58 Calinou better scene too ;) 15:58 Calinou what about a contest? 15:58 Calinou Krock, furniture and such 15:58 Calinou people can make crazy stuff, just by thinking about it :P 15:58 Krock ah 16:01 Krock Calinou, something more: Some players requested a copper stone because it would look good new to wood. Could you add that one? :3 16:02 Hobodium Thin slabs and such are especially useful if they are compatible with wiring mods and such. Being able to cover up wires in the space of a block is nice. 16:03 Calinou Krock, copper stone? like iron stone, but with copper lump? 16:16 hmmmm i never really liked the new website frontpage 16:17 Krock Calinou, yes. 16:17 hmmmm whenever people somehow hear about minetest and then ask me about it I sort of die from embarassment when they look at minetest.net 16:17 Calinou old one looked simplistic 16:17 Calinou not editable… 16:17 Calinou this one is a DokuWiki, very good for maintainability 16:18 Krock I've the feeling, the frontpage is too thin 16:19 hmmmm I'm referring to the content more or less 16:19 hmmmm the quote about the pyramids is especially cringeworthy 16:20 cities that quote is weird 16:21 cities what other lightweight irc clients are there out there 16:21 cities for windows 16:26 rubenwardy Hi all! 16:26 ElectronLibre Hi. 16:30 rubenwardy The new koding.com is awesome! 16:30 rubenwardy It actually works! 16:37 Hobodium What is it exactly? 16:38 rubenwardy A VM 16:38 rubenwardy A ubuntu VM in the cloud. And an IDE 16:39 rubenwardy You can make django, php or ruby web servers. Or compile cpp. 16:39 rubenwardy All free 16:39 rubenwardy No access to the GUI though, so you can't run Minetest :P 16:42 Hobodium But how about a minetest server? 16:42 rubenwardy You could run a Minetest server, however it requires that you stay logged into the website, so you need to reload the page every 50 minutes 16:42 rubenwardy It is meant for development, anyway 16:43 Hobodium Hmm, that sounds like it is in conflict with their "Always On" feature description 16:43 Hobodium But makes a lot more sense 16:43 rubenwardy You can get always on, yes 16:43 rubenwardy but: money 16:43 Hobodium Oh, I see 16:44 Hobodium I assume if you don't like the default languages you can still use whatever you want if you install it and edit it via terminal? 16:45 rubenwardy yes 16:46 Hobodium And the catch is they want you to give them money for more features? 16:47 rubenwardy yes 16:47 rubenwardy T 16:47 Hobodium That's pretty cool! 16:48 rubenwardy The limitations is that they turn off after a while off idleness, and you can only have 1 vm 16:48 rubenwardy https://koding.com/rubenwardy XD 16:49 Hobodium You sure do complain a lot :y 16:50 rubenwardy That is the old system. It was unreliable. Very. And I did my computing coursework using it. 16:54 Dragonop hey, what is the silvercrab server IRC? 16:55 Krock isis.inchra.net @SilverCrab 16:55 Krock s/@/# 16:55 Dragonop thanks! 16:55 rubenwardy why inchra? 16:56 rubenwardy Also, ISIS 16:57 Krock IS is IS 16:58 rubenwardy Neither of those channels exist 16:59 Calinou BitTorrenting or Filesharing; 16:59 Calinou Run any software that interfaces with an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) network. 16:59 Calinou Run any gaming servers such as Battlefield 3, MineCraft, Counter-Strike etc. 16:59 PenguinDad rubenwardy: ancient egyptian goddess 16:59 cities I'm wondering why tons of minetest stuff is on inchra too 16:59 Calinou disallowed by terms, rubenwardy 16:59 Calinou Mining/Generating Crypto Currencies including but not limited to BitCoin, DogeCoin, LiteCoin etc.; 16:59 Calinou Use of any kind of distributed computing software, including but not limited to SETI@home, Node Zero and Folding@home 16:59 rubenwardy huh? 16:59 Calinou we love that 16:59 Calinou https://koding.com/Legal 16:59 Calinou they didn't even spell Minecraft properly 16:59 rubenwardy yeah 16:59 Dragonop Hey, whats the channel of silvercrab server 16:59 Krock again? 16:59 rubenwardy Lol, they disallow IRC :( 16:59 Dragonop yes i now 16:59 rubenwardy Oh well, they won't know 17:00 Dragonop the link maybe? 17:00 cities link? 17:00 Dragonop i am very new in the IRC 17:00 Krock Dragonop, channel #minetest-silvercrab 17:00 Krock sorry 17:00 Calinou don't complain about account shutdowns 17:00 cities Dragonop, can you connect your IRC client to isis.inchra.net 17:01 Dragonop IRC client? 17:01 cities are you using chatzilla 17:01 cities what are you using to connect here 17:01 Dragonop firefox 17:01 cities did you go to a website or do you have an IRC addon 17:01 cities in firefox 17:01 rubenwardy I can see why they disallow IRC (spam bots), but I don't like being penalised for something someone else does. 17:02 Dragonop webssite 17:02 rubenwardy qwebirc 17:02 rubenwardy VERSION qwebirc v0.91, copyright (C) 2008-2011 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/38.0.2125.101 Safari/537.36 17:02 Hobodium rubenwardy: Thats annoying that just flat disallow game servers. It would have been handy to make a server for testing how mods interact in the field. 17:03 cities Dragonop, can I message you,maybe I can help 17:03 Dragonop ok 17:04 Dragonop wait, i will download a IRC client 17:04 Calinou http://hexchat.github.io/ 17:04 Dragonop thanks for the info 17:06 Krock a candidate for the frontpage? http://i.imgur.com/zzjF2lj.png 17:07 CWz for some reason i lost all my privs on silvercrab 17:07 SilvaMerner Cwz OldCoder is on irc at the moment 17:08 Amaz CWz, the player files were not copied over from Rebcrab, just the map. 17:08 CWz yes but i had admin privs given to me by old coder on silvercrab 17:08 CWz suddenly they are gone 17:09 cities I don't understand qwebirc 17:09 Amaz Odd. 17:09 Amaz Ask OldCoder on SilverCrab, he should tell you. 17:10 Calinou needs default textures, no mods, Krock 17:10 Calinou default settings too 17:10 Calinou (or best ones… would work too) 17:10 Krock Calinou, everything's default 17:10 Krock just a diffrent default 17:10 Calinou also the scenery isn't good 17:10 Calinou too cluttered, chaotic desert at right 17:10 Calinou Krock, the textures aren't default apparently 17:11 Calinou (long grass side) 17:11 Krock Calinou, yes. thes're not the default you expect 17:12 SilvaMerner Awwwww I timed out and was brought to this page 17:13 Amaz Krock, are they from base_game? 17:13 Krock Amaz, yes. from the default mod 17:13 Krock :3 17:15 Amaz :P 17:18 cities yay I helped someone 17:18 cities first time doign that here 17:18 cities hah 17:18 Krock http://i.imgur.com/L6P0W9p.png 17:20 Krock ^ Calinou 17:20 Calinou better but beware of field of view 17:20 Calinou (looks like you increased it) 17:20 Krock either 36 or full range :3 17:20 Calinou and your fog is off… 17:21 Calinou let me make my own take on this 17:21 Calinou with anti-aliasing, don't forget, too 17:21 Krock :/ 17:21 Calinou fsaa = 4 17:22 Krock Calinou, might cause invisible spaces! 17:22 PenguinDad And don't forget the mip-mapping 17:22 Krock *visible 17:22 Krock ah yes, and bi-linear filters 17:22 PenguinDad Krock: no just no 17:22 Calinou /set -n fov 72 17:22 Calinou you can change FOV while playing in singleplayer 17:22 Calinou mip-mapping and aniso are on 17:23 Calinou I don't have artefacts on blocks here with FSAA 17:23 Calinou only on items, which will not be on screenshot 17:23 Krock hmm is a higher "fsaa" faster? 17:23 Calinou slower 17:23 Krock :/ 17:23 Calinou 8 and 16 look blurry 17:23 Calinou use 2 or 4 17:23 Krock guess I can't set it to negative then 17:23 Calinou as for view range… I'd say 150 is a good value 17:23 Calinou or even 200 17:23 Krock .. if your graphics card can handle it :P 17:27 Calinou yes sure 17:27 Calinou no need for high FPS on a screenshot anyway 17:27 Calinou made two screenshots in case… may want to put more than one :) 17:29 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/VVtupf-vavap.png 17:29 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/nZkZ2BK100dX.png 17:30 Krock 1st one looks boring. 17:30 Krock 2nd s better 17:30 Hobodium The first one looks like it is way too far away 17:30 Krock wow it's so hard to make a screnshot xD 17:30 Calinou yes, it's far from easy 17:30 Calinou don't underestimate it 17:31 Krock so. trying to write a PR to make the default lightening brighter 17:31 Krock *default 17:33 PenguinDad Screenshots are serious! :D 17:34 Krock oh yay! http://nimg.pf-control.de/MTstuff/modSearch.php?q=item_drop various kinds of item drop 17:34 Hobodium Screenshots are life and death. People die because of bad screenshots. 17:35 hisforeverkid how do I make this one of my favorit channels? 17:35 Krock hisforeverkid, bookmark it 17:36 cities you just make a pledge to love it forever 17:37 PenguinDad just type "<3 #minetest" 17:38 shadowzone <3 #minetest 17:38 shadowzone Liek that? 17:38 shadowzone Oh. 17:38 PenguinDad shadowzone: yep 17:39 shadowzone hisforeverkid? 17:39 hisforeverkid thy I got it 17:40 hisforeverkid been looking for texture packs where can I find them everything I find is for minecraft? 17:41 SylvieLorxu http://minetest.net/texturepacks and https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=1a71106da974ecc552b04fb690741c6d 17:41 hisforeverkid ty for the help 17:41 SylvieLorxu http://minetest.net/texturepacks should really have a link to the forum, now that I look at it, but I have no wander who to ask about that :P 17:41 SylvieLorxu You're welcome, hope you can find a texture pack you like 17:42 SilvaMerner Gi VanessaE 17:43 SilvaMerner Hi* 17:45 hisforeverkid I have no texture folder should I make one , I'm in Linux? 17:46 ElectronLibre In ~/.minetest ? 17:46 SylvieLorxu You probably should, yeah 17:46 hisforeverkid yes Electronlibre 17:47 ElectronLibre Ok, do what SylvieLorxu say ^^... 17:48 hisforeverkid ok do I name it just texture or textures? 17:48 hisforeverkid because there not showing up in game 17:49 Hobodium I think it is "textures" 17:49 hisforeverkid ty 17:54 hisforeverkid Do I have to do something to make textures show up I'm not seeing anything in the testures on minetest game? 17:54 Krock screenshot? 17:54 hisforeverkid ok brb 17:55 ElectronLibre Close the game and launch it again if you didn't do it after putting the textures in the texture forlder. Then, if they don't appear, just look if you have put them in the right place. 17:56 kaeza hisforeverkid, also, TPs go into subfolders, e.g. ~/.minetest/textures/your_pack/foo.png 17:59 hisforeverkid http://imgur.com/6VLJnAy its showing nothing there and I have HDX_23 and minetest tools I downloaded 18:00 hisforeverkid I would think they should show in there? 18:00 Krock seems like there's no texture pack folder in textures/ 18:01 Krock where should be a folder called "base" 18:01 hisforeverkid I put them in ~/.mineters/textures 18:01 hisforeverkid I'm using linux 18:01 Amaz Have you closed and opened Minetest? 18:01 Krock and the images are now at ~/.mineters/textures/mypack/ ? 18:01 Krock Amaz, a tab-switch is good enough :P 18:02 Krock it reloads everytime 18:02 hisforeverkid so they need to be in a mypacks? 18:02 Krock that's what kaeza said. yes 18:03 hisforeverkid ok I'll do that brb 18:03 Krock well, replace "mypacks" with the textures name 18:03 Krock texture pack name* 18:04 Amaz Krock, I wish I'd know that before! 18:04 Krock ^^ 18:04 Amaz *known 18:05 Krock *I knew 18:05 hisforeverkid Still not showing up on main sreen fort textures 18:05 Amaz Not sure about that... 18:06 Krock blame linux 18:06 Amaz XD 18:07 hisforeverkid I ty Amaz for your help 18:08 hisforeverkid ty Krock 18:08 RiZom-91 Hi, does someone know if it is possible the override the default damage system called with on_punch method please? 18:08 Krock I wasn't even helpful :3 18:09 RiZom-91 to override* 18:09 Krock RiZom-91, disable PvP? 18:09 hisforeverkid but you tried Krock and that what matters 18:09 RiZom-91 actually i want to forbid punch until time_from_last_punch < tool_capabilities.full_punch_interval 18:12 Krock can't find the word 'last_punch' in the builtin codes 18:12 PenguinDad RiZom-91: it is possible but only for entities afaik 18:13 RiZom-91 i only need it for entities :) 18:15 RiZom-91 Krock, i didn't understand sorry 18:16 * Krock calls PilzAdam ^ 18:17 PilzAdam the damage system is pretty much hardcoded in the engine 18:18 RiZom-91 PenguinDad, do you know which method i should use instead of on_punch() ? 18:18 Calinou SylvieLorxu, do you play Minetest? 18:18 RiZom-91 ok :/ 18:18 jin_xi you can bypass it and do it by hand 18:18 RiZom-91 how please ? 18:18 ItsLuke Guys answer me please.. I can't load Multidoge... 18:19 Krock !doge 18:19 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/JBXo2M5.jpg 18:19 Krock there's your doge 18:19 PenguinDad zomfg he can't load the doge program 18:19 jin_xi idk exactly how, but you can set you entity to be immortal and do your own damage calculations 18:19 PenguinDad !doge 18:19 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000086 BTC 18:19 Krock >:D 18:19 ItsLuke Its not working D:: I've sent it to like every channel 18:19 ItsLuke argh 18:19 Krock ItsLuke, try #Multidoge ? 18:20 cities very multi. much doge 18:20 Krock lel. channel doesn't exist 18:20 RiZom-91 of so if my entities is immortal, is there a method like on_left_click ? 18:20 RiZom-91 ok so* 18:20 Krock left click is on_use or on_punch or on_dig 18:20 PenguinDad RiZom-91: the method is called on_punch 18:21 RiZom-91 so if entities are immortal on_punch doesn't make damage and i can define my own damage system ? 18:22 jin_xi thats the idea 18:22 RiZom-91 (in my custom on_punch method) 18:22 RiZom-91 thx a lot, i'll try this :) 18:33 RiZom-91 ok so i added 'groups={immortal}' in my entity definition but it still can get damage :/ 18:34 RiZom-91 any hint please ? 18:35 ElectronLibre Good bye everyone :). 18:37 jin_xi RiZom-91: use groups={immortal=1} 18:38 SilvaMerner Hi 18:38 OldCoder SilvaMerner, this is the primary place you wish to be 18:38 SilvaMerner Ok 18:39 OldCoder You will find people you know and can learn some Lua here 18:39 OldCoder Meaning that you can make your own blocks (easy!) 18:39 OldCoder And more complicated mods over time 18:39 SilvaMerner :O 18:39 OldCoder You will see Linux 18:39 Hobodium You can also learn more useless knowledge! 18:39 OldCoder Not Windows 18:39 OldCoder Windows is Sindows! 18:39 OldCoder Hobodium, of course! A benefit! 18:39 SilvaMerner Like rainbow water mods? 18:39 OldCoder Yes 18:40 SilvaMerner Yay 18:40 OldCoder SilvaMerner, you are now in 2 channels. Keep them open and return to PM to close. We will discuss your remaining question. 18:40 SilvaMerner shadowzone tried to make rainbow water and it affects the mapgen 18:41 SilvaMerner Is there a way round that problem 18:42 RiZom-91 Krock, thx it worked! now i have to calculate damage :) 18:57 Sokomine hi. i'd like to get some feedback regarding speed of my mg_villages mod (based on nores mg mapgen). the mod generates diffrent types of villages. what i need is someone with a not too fast machine and without luajit compiled in 18:58 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Zeno- -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix use of unitialized variables in mouse button handling 13914f850 http://git.io/fQphyQ (152014-10-08T14:56:29-04:00) 18:58 MinetestBot 02[git] 04mushiden -> 03minetest/minetest: Add in-game key change menu 137b548cd http://git.io/9bbIWg (152014-10-07T17:24:09-04:00) 19:05 SilvaMerner Chain? 19:05 SilvaMerner Ill be on tommorrow 19:07 oOChainLinuxOo Ok 19:07 Jordach oOChainLinuxOo, needs more oOChainLynuxOo 19:07 sfan5 Jordach: meow 19:08 oOChainLinuxOo LEL 19:08 sfan5 Jordach: I just finished Portal 2 19:08 PenguinDad plol 19:08 oOChainLinuxOo Jordach: Would you know of a good Steam game for under $5? 19:08 Jordach as long as it isn't Ubisoft 19:08 Jordach go nuts 19:08 oOChainLinuxOo I spent 15 on Five Nights at Freddy's and Terraria 19:10 oOChainLinuxOo Also since I put some extra highlighted words in my preferences on Hexchat, why is every single message on isis.inchra.net #minetest highlighted 19:10 oOChainLinuxOo Jordach: Assassin's Creed III is $5.00 right now 19:11 hisforever http://pastie.org/9632113 I have an error I would like to know how to fix? 19:11 kaeza hisforever, you must rename the mod folder to just "windmill" 19:12 hisforever ok ty 19:12 Cylus Sokomine: Yo. I've got such a machine. Where would I find the mod you want tested? 19:12 kaeza also, you have two instances of "unified_inventory"; get rid of (the older) one 19:18 Sokomine Cylus: you can get it from https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages just start it in a new world. please compare world generation speed with the mod installed compared to without the mod installed. don't install any other mods in that world 19:19 Sokomine Cylus: you can of course if you want to install my cottages mod as well: https://github.com/Sokomine/random_buildings (only the cottages mod!). that will give you more types of villages. for this test it's not needed 19:34 Calinou Sokomine, your villages mod made me crash on load 19:34 Calinou 21:34:30: ERROR[main]: ServerError: ...netest/bin/../games/minetest_game/mods/default/trees.lua:147: Deprecated use of default.grow_jungletree 19:34 Calinou why does it error on use of deprecated method? default behaviour is to do nothing 19:35 Krock Calinou, because MTG doesn't add a compatibility part 19:36 Krock blame MTG devs 19:36 Sokomine mtg? 19:36 Calinou minetest_game 19:36 Sokomine ah, ok 19:36 Calinou MT_G is preferable as an abbreviation 19:36 Sokomine i usually use minetest_next these days. if there's an incompatibility with minetest_game i wasn't aware of, it's important to know 19:36 Calinou it's still maintained? 19:36 Sokomine unless mtg crashes on itshelf? 19:36 Calinou I thought it was dead 19:37 erdbeerenjoe Great evening. 19:37 Calinou haha if you bind the same key to two movement keys, you move diagonally by pressing 1 key only 19:37 Calinou nice that you can change keys while playing 19:43 Sokomine Calinou: oh yes! that's nice. i've sometimes wished for that as well 19:43 Sokomine diagonally also sounds fun :-) 19:44 Sokomine beeing able to do w + e + space simultaneously might also be helpful 19:45 Cylus Sokomine: I get an error as well, but on world start: . 19:50 Sokomine Cylus: you're using windows? 19:50 Cylus Sokomine: Ew, no. I'm on Debian. 19:51 PenguinDad Cylus: do you use latest git? 19:51 Sokomine Cylus: intresting. so far, this special bug has been reported by people using windows only 19:51 Cylus PenguinDad: I do not. I'm on the latest stable. 19:51 Cylus Sokomine: Is the latest Git version needed? 19:51 Sokomine aah, everything back. didn't read right 19:51 Sokomine your bug is really a case of "not latest git" 19:52 Cylus Okay, sweet. I really don't want Windows errors on my machine. That's one of the reasons I don't use Windows. I'll download a newer Minetest and compile. 19:52 Sokomine yes, it's needed, because only latest git has in-built support for decompression of zlib streams. only latest git can read and decompress .mts files via lua (instead of using them with place_schematic only) 19:53 Sokomine no, sorry, that was my error. case of wrong tab 19:54 Sokomine the newest version is usually the best anyway :-) most of us here use latest git (varying by a few days) 19:54 rubenwardy SylvieLorxu, added link to forum on http://minetest.net/texturepacks 19:55 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/LjVFvPCPTHn4.png 19:58 SylvieLorxu rubenwardy: Sweet, thanks 20:01 asie sfan5: you here? 20:07 ItsLuke Come hop on ##dogechat, we are gonna soak some doge at 3k.. 20:07 ItsLuke 100 sorry 20:11 ret anyone alive 20:13 Hobodium Nope 20:13 PenguinDad ret: sorry but everybody died due to an accident involving eurobeat :P 20:13 ret lol 20:13 Atomicon Hi 20:15 dick_butt hi 20:15 Atomicon hi 20:15 dick_butt so Atomicon 20:15 dick_butt whatcha doing 20:16 Atomicon testin stuff atm 20:16 dick_butt nice 20:17 Krock dick_butt, interesting name 20:17 dick_butt thanks good sir 20:17 dick_butt oh shit 20:17 dick_butt it's dead 20:17 dick_butt rip 20:17 Atomicon making a cool curl fetcher 20:17 Atomicon gonna try loading and rendering minetest.net 20:17 dick_butt neat man 20:17 dick_butt wow 20:17 PenguinDad Rest In Pasta 20:17 Krock I prefer rest in pies 20:18 dick_butt sfan5: ping pong 20:18 Hobodium RIP in peace 20:18 Krock dick_butt, only say ping, otherwise the they don't know what to answer 20:18 Atomicon oops 20:18 Atomicon !up minetest.net 20:18 MinetestBot minetest.net:30000 seems to be down 20:18 dick_butt sfan5: do you like your power 20:18 Atomicon its down 20:18 Atomicon was it something i did? 20:18 dick_butt no idea 20:19 dick_butt sfan5: knock knock 20:19 Krock C'mon let out - c'mon let in - 20:19 dick_butt wow that's just rude 20:19 Atomicon krock krock 20:19 kaeza sfan5, Jordach, your presence is required 20:19 Atomicon I see what you did there 20:19 Jordach eh 20:19 Atomicon thats funny 20:19 dick_butt ping 20:19 dick_butt pong 20:19 Krock Atomicon Atomicon 20:19 Chippy1337 ping pong 20:19 Atomicon nickserv is flooding me 20:20 Chippy1337 so how is everyone 20:20 Atomicon nickflood 20:20 Krock Chippy1337, U liek pong? 20:20 Atomicon im so funny 20:20 Chippy1338 rude 20:20 Atomicon 2448 20:20 Chippy1338 nah but seriously i was just testing out a new DoS method 20:20 Chippy1338 nothing impressive just running on one box 20:21 Atomicon From vlan190.car2.Phoenix1.Level3.net (4.53.110.25) icmp_seq=1 Time to live exceeded 20:21 Atomicon wow that was rude 20:22 Atomicon troller here 20:22 Chippy1338 hacker 20:22 Atomicon servers.minetest.net seems fine though 20:22 Chippy1338 it sure doe 20:22 Chippy1338 s 20:22 Atomicon its up 20:22 * Atomicon counts to 10 20:23 Chippy1338 9 20:23 Chippy1338 nope dead lol 20:23 Atomicon woah that was super rude 20:23 Chippy1338 wow it came back online :c 20:23 Atomicon :( 20:23 Atomicon Double rude 20:23 Atomicon mitifuckinggatiomn 20:23 Atomicon rude tho 20:24 kaeza PilzAdam? ^ 20:24 Chippy1338 if i could be bothered i'd load this onto a few boxes 20:24 Chippy1338 im just bored as hell 20:24 Atomicon same irl 20:24 Krock "Massenverdummungsfänomen 20:24 Chippy1338 im gay 20:25 PenguinDad Krock: omg you speak german 20:25 Krock PenguinDad, no I only wrote in german 20:25 Atomicon I speak germ too 20:25 Atomicon watch 20:25 Atomicon im gay 20:25 Krock Atomicon, wow so creative. better turn it off in the main menu 20:25 Chippy1338 wat 20:25 Chippy1338 ohai PilzAdam 20:26 Chippy1338 wanna buy some 0day? 20:26 Atomicon hai PilzAdam 20:26 Atomicon yeah 20:26 Chippy1338 i got a nice persistant xss in mybb 20:26 Chippy1338 great for stealing cookies 20:26 Chippy1338 (mybb core) 20:26 Krock lika boss 20:26 Krock ^^ 20:26 kaeza PilzAdam++ 20:26 kaeza y no karma bot here? :( 20:26 PenguinDad ++PilzAdam 20:26 Krock PilzAdam1 20:27 Chippy1338 roto rooted bi weekly 20:27 Krock re-phrasepls 20:27 Chippy1338 tl;dr im actually hann 20:27 Chippy1338 LOL 20:27 Chippy1338 well timed 20:28 VanessaE [off] "Oh no. not again." 20:28 Chippy1338 pls stop the rude 20:29 Atomicon Pretty rude 20:29 [LuLz313]Sabu wanna join my elite hacking clan? 20:30 [LuLz313]Sabu we're the baddest hackers on all of cod 4 20:30 kaeza makes sense 20:31 ryannn shit calm down dude 20:31 kaeza mode +b? 20:31 ryaaaaaan nah im done 20:32 VanessaE PilzAdam: -i at your leisure. 20:34 Brains VanessaE: Do you keep a public issues log for Dreambuilder somewhere? 20:34 VanessaE Brains: yes, https://github.com/VanessaE/dreambuilder_game/issues 20:34 VanessaE something broken? 20:34 PilzAdam VanessaE, what? 20:34 Brains VanessaE: Er, I see 0 open and 0 closed issues... You're good but that good? *grin* 20:34 VanessaE PilzAdam: at your leisure, remove the +i from the channel. 20:35 Brains VanessaE: Yeah, the mining laser is way off... 20:35 VanessaE Brains: I may be good, but I guess people just didn't feel the need to set an issue ;-) 20:35 VanessaE ah, ok for that file it against technic 20:36 Brains VanessaE: I was wanting to check what I was seeing in case it was an obvious fubar on my part. 20:36 * Brains thinks he already checked technic and didn't see anything but he'll look again later when he has a chance to sit down. 20:36 VanessaE Brains: I don't see anything for the laser currently on the technic issues list, so looks like it's safe to file a new issue there 20:37 ryaaan hi 20:38 ryaaan niggers 20:38 ryaaan niggers 20:38 ryaaan niggers 20:38 ryaaan niggers 20:38 ryaaan niggers 20:38 ryaaan how does this make you feel 20:38 VanessaE kick ryaaan 20:38 ryaaan RUDE 20:38 VanessaE it makes me feel like kicking, that's what 20:38 Atomicon :c 20:38 Atomicon Im sorry for your loss 20:38 kilbith what a shitty head... 20:40 VanessaE yeah 20:41 Atomicon poor guy 20:41 Atomicon autism isn't a light issue 20:41 Atomicon But you 20:41 Atomicon minetest.net got packeted 20:41 Atomicon I hope you had fun with 300gbps 20:41 Atomicon lol 20:41 Atomicon dancing in the packets 20:41 Atomicon like it was snow 20:42 Atomicon waiting for the shower to end 20:42 Atomicon Like the last ddos on a cold summers eve 20:42 Atomicon well 20:42 VanessaE er.. 20:42 Atomicon sorry 20:42 Atomicon I should have introduced myself 20:43 Atomicon wait no shouldn't 20:43 Atomicon My name is bella 20:43 Atomicon I'm fairly hot 20:43 Atomicon You got packeted by a girl 20:43 e1z0 :O 20:43 * VanessaE shrugs 20:43 PenguinDad Atomicon: You should go to a doctor if you're hot 20:44 Atomicon Yeah 20:44 Atomicon girls tend to be a lil 20:44 VanessaE I don't run, host, otherwise have any connection to the main website so it ain't my issue to deal with :P 20:44 Atomicon on the ugly side 20:44 Atomicon lol 20:44 Atomicon Pretty rude though 20:44 kilbith Atomicon == ryaan 20:44 Atomicon guess again 20:45 Atomicon Methinks vanessa should go back to cooking 20:45 Atomicon I'd like a nice curry please 20:45 VanessaE piss off, landmine. 20:45 Atomicon lm? 20:45 Atomicon im not landmine 20:46 PenguinDad -lm is often in my linker flags :P 20:46 Atomicon Well 20:46 Atomicon nice seeing you 20:46 Atomicon bye 20:47 Hobodium So what was that all about 20:47 * Brains makes a note sometime to see if he can establish a pattern between folks of the annoying sort and hostmasks involving AWS (or maybe more generally cloud compute services). It would make him sad as he's considered it for various reasons... 20:47 VanessaE just more of the same old shit, Hobodium 20:48 VanessaE with any community, you find a bad apple or two 20:55 VanessaE oh snap. 20:55 Brains ? 20:55 VanessaE ^^^ k-lined. 20:55 shadowzone What is that? 20:55 kilbith what's that ? 20:55 Brains Somebody was very naughty. 20:55 VanessaE means someone kicked that guy off the entire network 20:56 kilbith freenode ? 20:56 VanessaE yeah 20:56 kilbith \o/ 20:56 shadowzone Inchra got hit by something as well? 20:56 * Brains should more properly say, "Somebody was very obviously and stupidly naughty." 20:57 shadowzone VanessaE, what happen with Inchra then? 20:57 VanessaE ? 20:58 shadowzone You just timed out there. 20:58 VanessaE huh, so I did. 20:58 shadowzone And there was a mass netsplit. 20:59 VanessaE I can ssh into the server 20:59 VanessaE so it must be a network glitch somewhere 20:59 shadowzone Okay. 20:59 VanessaE hm, no 20:59 VanessaE there's a pretty big incoming spike on the network graph 20:59 shadowzone WAit.. 20:59 VanessaE maybe that asshole decided to try a DDoS, not realizing I'm using OVH. 21:00 shadowzone ShadowNinja was talking about getting rid of anubis.inchra.net 21:00 kilbith k-lined is not simply a kick, but a ban 21:00 VanessaE kilbith: correct. 21:00 kilbith a mega-ban 21:02 PenguinDad kilbith: A G-Line is even harder 21:02 kilbith yes, g-line is network-wide 21:02 kilbith k-line just for one server 21:04 Atomicon hi 21:04 shadowzone Hi. 21:05 Atomicon ovh was easy 21:05 Atomicon lol 21:05 VanessaE shadowzone: oh well, it had no effect anyway. 21:05 Atomicon fun too 21:05 shadowzone What was? 21:05 Atomicon cyclinf 21:06 Atomicon i love bikes 21:06 Atomicon they stop working when you take away chains 21:06 Atomicon just like niggera 21:06 Atomicon i spelr niggers wronf 21:07 Atomicon sorey 21:07 Atomicon vaness 21:07 Atomicon qhat happened? 21:08 Atomicon did you get a little ddps? 21:08 shadowzone DDoS 21:08 Atomicon dats one box 21:08 Atomicon oo 21:08 Atomicon we have a hacker 21:08 Atomicon that caps 21:08 shadowzone Maybe. 21:08 * VanessaE shrugs. nothing of note happened. 21:08 Atomicon you blackhat 21:08 Atomicon get a bike 21:09 Atomicon and take the chain ofd 21:09 Atomicon then ridw it 21:09 Atomicon shadzn is haxxor? 21:09 shadowzone I am not a hacker. 21:09 Atomicon same 21:09 Atomicon ppwder? 21:10 Atomicon catelie 21:10 Atomicon you're kewl 21:10 shadowzone Me? 21:10 ShadowNinja kilbith: On InchraNet K-Lines are global and there's no such thing as a G-Line. 21:10 kilbith ok 21:11 Atomicon no tge guy 21:11 shadowzone Wait. 21:11 Atomicon staff/powder 21:11 shadowzone Is it fixed? 21:11 Atomicon he has sqage 21:11 Atomicon awag 21:11 ShadowNinja kilbith: Same on freenode, BTW. 21:11 Atomicon SWAG 21:11 PenguinDad Swag level: 4/20 :D 21:12 Atomicon 60/69 21:12 Atomicon im mature 21:12 Atomicon this turna things arounf 21:12 kilbith but K-lines does not consider the proxies, unfortunally... 21:12 Atomicon Zzzzz 21:12 Atomicon srop ddosing me vanessa 21:12 Atomicon please 21:13 shadowzone Who is Atomicon? 21:13 Atomicon 700 gbps 21:13 shadowzone And will someone tell him to quit spamming 21:13 kaeza shadowzone, /ignore is your friend 21:13 shadowzone There. 21:14 Atomicon you bad anushole 21:14 Atomicon you are cool 21:15 ShadowNinja shadowzone: InchraNet's all back now. 21:15 shadowzone Okay. 21:32 pitriss Please where I should report dead masterserver?:) 21:35 * PenguinDad sighs 21:36 PenguinDad pitriss: complaints to sfan5 please ;) 21:37 pitriss PenguinDad: ok thank you:) 21:39 Atomicon hi 21:40 Atomicon make me a sandwich 21:40 Atomicon or swat 21:41 Atomicon sfan5 21:41 Atomicon tell me minetest bot ip 21:41 Atomicon wat is ntbot ip 21:50 ragnardev hi 21:55 TheKingDoof I forked a copy of minetest and I tweaked some code. Now I'm wondering how I run it. Usually I run the .exe on Windows that's found in the bun folder. However there doesn't seem to be a .exe file to run in the github. So how do I run the game with my updated code? 21:55 TheKingDoof bin* 21:56 jin_xi you will need to compile it 21:57 TheKingDoof Something like "gcc minetest -o Minetest"? 21:58 jin_xi see README. are you on windows? 21:59 TheKingDoof Yea, although if need be, I can move it over to a Mac 21:59 jin_xi sorry im not very familiar with windows. as far as i know building on mac is not easier. 22:00 jojoa1997 isnt building on a mac like imposible? 22:01 PenguinDad jojoa1997: It is probably easier than on widows 22:01 PenguinDad *windows 22:01 paramat lol, bun folder =) 22:02 * shadowzone pokes VanessaE 22:02 jojoa1997 haha my teachers is doing defining functions 22:03 jojoa1997 To bad i used it on the exam already 22:05 VanessaE sorry, I was afk. 22:05 jojoa1997 hi VanessaE 22:05 VanessaE hji 22:05 VanessaE hi 22:06 jojoa1997 live stream is SOOOOOOOOOO slow 22:06 shadowzone VanessaE, the guy who you just banned was on Inchra. 22:06 shadowzone He was asking people for they're IP. 22:06 jojoa1997 what 22:06 jojoa1997 lol 22:07 shadowzone tell me minetest bot ip 22:07 shadowzone wat is ntbot ip 22:07 jojoa1997 he called tyler as tay-lor 22:07 shadowzone Saying stuff like that. 22:07 ragnardev helloy every 22:07 ragnardev one 22:08 shadowzone Hi. 22:09 jojoa1997 shadowzone what is your ip? 22:09 shadowzone Not telling. 22:09 h4iku hi all 22:09 jojoa1997 what is the minetestbot ip? 22:09 h4iku Megaf: 22:09 shadowzone Not telling. 22:10 jojoa1997 shadowzone will you marry me? 22:10 shadowzone NO! 22:10 jojoa1997 :'( 22:10 shadowzone (not to bring dating into this but I already have a boyfriend) 22:10 h4iku Megaf: let me in XD 22:10 ragnardev jojoa1997: i'mm marry you 22:10 ragnardev same 22:10 ragnardev boyfriend?? 22:10 ragnardev oh 22:10 shadowzone Yeah.. 22:10 * jojoa1997 knifes ragnardev 22:10 shadowzone I am a girl. 22:10 jojoa1997 NO! 22:10 ragnardev you'r a girl 22:10 ragnardev on the internet 22:11 jojoa1997 shadowzone will you not marry me? 22:11 ragnardev rare but i respect you 22:11 jojoa1997 Girls are scary! 22:11 Hobodium Minetest IRC Dating Simulator: Begin! 22:11 ragnardev now make me a sand witch 22:11 shadowzone NO!!!!! 22:11 jojoa1997 XD 22:11 jojoa1997 I am married to shadowzone 22:11 kaeza shadowzone, /ignore is your friend 22:11 ragnardev same irl 22:11 shadowzone NO YOU ARE NOT!!!!! 22:11 jojoa1997 [18:10:56] shadowzone will you not marry me? [18:11:12] NO!!!!! 22:11 jojoa1997 i said not 22:11 Hobodium B-but jojoa1997-kun, I thought you were going to be with me! KYAAA~ 22:11 PenguinDad Hobodium: you forget the 2014 22:11 shadowzone DANG IT!!!!! 22:11 shadowzone I hate you.... 22:11 shadowzone (not I don't) 22:12 * jojoa1997 doesnt marry shadowzone 22:12 * jojoa1997 hands shadowzone off to Hobodium 22:12 shadowzone I am taken... 22:12 Brains Bigamy is all the rage these days anyways... 22:12 jojoa1997 06♥ 22:12 jojoa1997 bigamy? 22:12 Brawns Brains lets work together! 22:13 * Brains refuses. He prefers to let brawn do all the work. 22:13 Brains Bigamy: Marrying while already married. Illegal in most states. 22:13 Brawns Brains lets work together! What do you want me to do for your lazy butt! 22:13 ragnardev jojoa1337 22:13 Brains But I don't want to work... 22:14 jojoa1997 HEY! That is what my brain says when i try to do homework 22:14 jojoa1997 :O 22:14 jojoa1997 then right before class it is like SHOOT FINSIH IT NOW!!! 22:22 VanessaE oops. 22:24 jin_xi hm. so while experimenting with particles i found this phenomenon where particles collide on node borders. turns out it this is also the case with current particles 22:25 jin_xi and everything that uses collision in mt really. strange, its not so glitchy to move around after all 22:26 VanessaE jin_xi: sounds like particles are a lot closer than was previously thought ;) 22:27 * VanessaE fans the flams she lit under your ass, just a little bit more ;-) 22:27 VanessaE flames, too 22:27 shadowzone o.O 22:28 VanessaE shadowzone: it's a phrase, to "light a fire under X's ass" means to do or say something that causes a person to redouble their efforts toward finishing a project they were working on :) 22:28 shadowzone o.O 22:28 shadowzone Oh.. 22:30 jojoa1997 BOOM 22:36 jin_xi well, i was just wonderin, are there any know glitches with spurious hits? are some of the know glitches likely related and similar questions 22:36 jin_xi because this affects everything, players, entities items... 22:37 zat cooking recipes should accept a table of itemstrings just like shapeless 22:37 zat someone implement this RIGHT NOW! 22:55 zat hello? I said RIGHT NOW!!!! 22:56 zat anyone alive?????? 22:56 * zat frenetically dances locovox on a table 22:56 zat notice me sempais!!!!!! 22:56 Catelite wut 22:57 * zat dances with Catelite pulling her on the table 23:09 kaeza zat, uh, care to elaborate? 23:10 zat kaeza: its standing on a table and then super gayly dance 23:10 zat wanna try? 23:10 kaeza ·_· 23:10 * zat dances with kaeza pulling her on the table 23:11 kaeza >her 23:11 zat you are a travestite now 23:52 Fritigern_AFK Sooooo... I wrote a script yesterday, and when Krock asked me what license it's under, i was take off guard and quickly said cc-by-nc-sa 4.0, because that was the license on one of the mods that i had up on my screen at the time. Not the best of reasons but meh. 23:57 Fritigern_AFK Now i am wondering which license i should choose from now on. To me, it is very important that my stuff isn;t used in a commercial product, that my stuff remains open and modifyable and that nobody can claim it as their own when it is not. But i have some additional wishes, and i only realized that just now. I would like to keep a list of contributors inside the script/source code which should... 23:58 Fritigern_AFK be maintained by future contributors. In other words, if you make a change, you add your name to the list 23:59 Fritigern_AFK Now the question is: which existing license is most compatible to those wishes and demands? 23:59 OldCoder FreeFull, CC BY NC SA seems OK 23:59 OldCoder CC allows you 23:59 OldCoder Fritigern_AFK, not FreeFull excuse MeFull