Time Nick Message 00:01 cities in what way 00:01 cities like changing the source code or whatnot 00:01 rickmcfarley look at the code, change things I dont like, let my friends use it, etc 00:02 rickmcfarley fork it 00:02 cities so like 00:02 rickmcfarley fix it 00:02 cities buying a copy of some xbox game 00:02 cities wouldn't work for you 00:02 rickmcfarley I used to 00:03 rickmcfarley but then I had to replace my xbox twice 00:03 cities that was just an example, not really specifically xbox 00:03 cities any random console I guess 00:03 rickmcfarley sorry I really dont like microsoft 00:03 cities lol ok 00:03 cities lets go with sony? 00:03 rickmcfarley I have a wii and use it 00:03 cities ahhh 00:04 rickmcfarley not nearly as much as my computer 00:04 cities well good 00:04 cities i have a Wii U and I have probably logged 1000 hours of Mario Kart 8 :( 00:04 rickmcfarley lol 00:04 rickmcfarley I like the physically demanding games to exercise and play videogames :P 00:05 rickmcfarley I threw out my shoulder playing just the boxing when I first got it 00:05 cities totally opposite from me. I pretty much rejected the motion controls 00:05 cities they got the Wii U Pro controller and I use those 00:05 rickmcfarley I actually kind of wanted a wii u 00:06 cities its not too late 00:06 rickmcfarley I've been dropping hints for christmas 00:07 cities do you live with anyone 00:07 cities otherwise thats kind of futile 00:07 rickmcfarley for the past year or so I've been putting my electronics money into GNU donations and such 00:07 rickmcfarley haha yeah I have a wife 00:07 cities :) 00:07 cities me too 00:07 rickmcfarley and as muc as I try to be a buddhist and forgo holidays my mother wont let me 00:08 cities I saved my money for a new iphone (yeah yeah I know online ridicule ensues) 00:08 rickmcfarley my wife swears by her apple products...as much as I preach 00:08 cities I don't swear by mine 00:08 cities Siri doesn't like it 00:08 rickmcfarley and she has to use windows at work and gnu on my stuff 00:08 rickmcfarley lol 00:09 cities jk ive used both android and 00:09 cities ios 00:09 rickmcfarley i hated the windows phone commercials where it makes fun of siri 00:09 cities right now I like my iphone 00:10 rickmcfarley "Windows phone has a voice assistant...finally......Microsoft, playing catch-up with technology and fooling the public with marketing since 1975" 00:16 AllEvil669 How much modification to biomes is there currently? 00:46 jojoa1997 [20:16:36] How much modification to biomes is there currently? 00:46 jojoa1997 WHAT DO YOU MEAN? 00:46 jojoa1997 sorry caps 00:49 OldCoder Either kaeza or ShadowNinja awake? 00:49 ShadowNinja OldCoder: Yep. :-) 00:50 OldCoder irc/messages.lua:106: bad argument #1 to 'sub' (number expected, got nil) 00:50 ShadowNinja OldCoder: I just finished a map that you might like. Give me a minute to set it up. 00:50 OldCoder /messages.lua:106: in function 'fromRFC1459' 00:50 OldCoder kk 00:50 OldCoder Thoughts on the IRC crash? 00:50 ShadowNinja OldCoder: irc/messages or irc/irc/messages 00:50 ShadowNinja +? 00:50 OldCoder /mods/irc/irc/messages.lua:106 00:51 OldCoder mods/irc/irc/messages.lua:13: 00:51 OldCoder mods/irc/irc/main.lua:165: 00:51 OldCoder mods/irc/init.lua:70: 00:51 OldCoder traceback ^ nil sub argument 00:56 OldCoder line = line:sub(pos) 00:56 * OldCoder assumes he should test pos there for nil 00:56 OldCoder And simply return if it is 01:06 OldCoder ShadowNinja, I've added if (pos ~= nil) then 01:06 OldCoder to that block; should this do the trick? 01:07 ShadowNinja OldCoder: One minute... 01:07 OldCoder Sure 01:08 ShadowNinja OldCoder: Um, that's weird. Seems the server sent an empty message. 01:09 OldCoder Yes, so should I just 01:09 OldCoder if (pos ~= nil) then 01:09 OldCoder around the code that tries to use pos ? 01:09 OldCoder Will that mess anything up? 01:09 ShadowNinja Or one containing only whitespace. 01:09 ShadowNinja OldCoder: self.command will be nil, and other things will crash instead. 01:09 OldCoder The regex should set pos to nil 01:10 OldCoder What is recommended solution? 01:10 OldCoder Set a fake command? 01:10 ShadowNinja OldCoder: That shouldn't happen again, tell me if it does. 01:10 ShadowNinja For now ignore it. 01:10 OldCoder Hm. O.K. 01:10 * OldCoder is dubious but will comply 01:10 ShadowNinja OldCoder: PM server adderess? 01:10 OldCoder You're in it 01:10 OldCoder SilverCrab 01:11 OldCoder Hm 01:11 OldCoder IRC bot restarted? 01:11 ShadowNinja OldCoder: No, I mean to come look at my creaation on my private server. 01:11 OldCoder Ah 01:11 OldCoder Sure 01:11 OldCoder Why did the IRC bot restart? 01:12 OldCoder I mean, after 10 minutes 01:14 RealBadAngel ShadowNinja, http://youtu.be/CM2b_vmM5rg 01:15 ShadowNinja OldCoder: Reconnect you mean? That's automatic when it disconnects in an error. 01:21 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel what does the video show 01:22 RealBadAngel meshnodes 01:22 jojoa1997 what is special about them? 01:25 RealBadAngel are you jokin jojoa1997 ? 01:25 jojoa1997 no 01:26 jojoa1997 what is a meshnode 01:26 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel what is the difference between a meshnode and a nodebox 01:26 Fritigern Hmmmm.... Are gravel and sand supposed to defy gravity on a creative server? 01:26 jojoa1997 Fritigern depends on the code ;) 01:27 jojoa1997 And yes until they are updated i think 01:30 kaeza jojoa1997, what is the difference between using a nodebox (and "wielditem" visual) and a proper model for entities? 01:30 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkLeUHug7BI&feature=youtu.be 01:30 kaeza I mean, think... 01:30 RealBadAngel now i think you will feel the difference :P 01:31 jojoa1997 i cant feel it 01:31 jojoa1997 i can only see it 01:31 jojoa1997 :3 01:32 RealBadAngel eat your screen, you gonna feel that then ;) 01:32 jojoa1997 i see 01:32 jojoa1997 no I will feel the screan 01:32 jojoa1997 screen 01:32 jojoa1997 but not the mesh 01:32 Fritigern Okay, i don't get it. I set the server to survival, but the and gravel will not fall! No matter how long i make a hozontal line, one or more nodes off the ground, it will keep floating. I don;t know why. And what can i do to fix this? 01:33 RealBadAngel so go to your nodebox sanbox and make r2d2 01:33 Fritigern *the sand and gravel 01:36 RealBadAngel nodeboxes days are counted 01:37 RealBadAngel meshnodes gonna sent them back to the experimentall hell in no time 01:37 RealBadAngel theyre faster, have no limitations on shape and texturing 01:37 jojoa1997 in every mod I make I will have a single nodebox that says " RealBadAngel will never kill me!" 01:38 RealBadAngel sorry buddy, but that r2d2 mesh model is faster than stair nodebox :P 01:38 RealBadAngel you will have to make very tiny nodeboxes to achive your goal 01:39 RealBadAngel and i wont kill nodeboxes anyway 01:39 RealBadAngel modders will do that 01:41 jojoa1997 in every mod I make I will have a single nodebox that says " RealBadAngel will never kill me!"!!! 01:42 RealBadAngel sure :P 01:45 Fritigern ASeriously, does nobody have any idea how i can make sand and gravel obey the laws of gravity? 01:46 hmmmm is it just me, or did fast move stop working in water? 01:59 VanessaE hmmmm: long ago. 02:00 blaise D: 02:00 hmmmm what do i set in minetest.conf to make it go back to the way it was 02:00 VanessaE hmmmm: there was a short while that you could swim fast, but to my knowledge it didn't last very long before the current player physics were settled. 02:01 hmmmm that wasn't a short while... 02:01 hmmmm that was right up until recent months 02:01 VanessaE unless I'm wrong of course. 02:01 * blaise covers everyone in bbq chicken 02:01 Fritigern VanessaE: Do you happen to know a solution to my problem? You usually are very good with coming up with answers to my issues 02:01 VanessaE maybe unset your key bindings if you have both use and descend bound to the same key (e.g. "E") 02:02 VanessaE Fritigern: there is a feature called "falling_node", I think this is a group setting in your node def. 02:02 blaise hrmm 02:02 VanessaE but it's not something I've experimented with 02:02 blaise is there a variable to set the viscosity for various liquids? 02:02 blaise say, for like crude oil, or quicksand ? 02:02 Fritigern I already looked at /games/mintetest_game/mods/nodes.lua, and falling_node is set in there. So that checks out 02:03 VanessaE blaise: actually yes, in the node def, you can set the viscosity 02:03 VanessaE Fritigern: I'm not sure then 02:03 blaise outstanding. 02:03 VanessaE blaise: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2433 02:04 Hobodium blaise: http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node I was actually looking at that exact variable as you asked that 02:04 VanessaE Fritigern: I would have to hazard a guess that the code that should actually make the nodes fall has, itself, been compromised then. engine bug? 02:04 blaise Hobodium: lmao 02:15 cities test 02:33 RealBadAngel btw, materials are wrong but the effect seems nice anyway... 02:33 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/fUon82U.png 02:34 VanessaE oh neat 02:34 VanessaE well moretrees is obsolete now. 02:37 RealBadAngel sorry honey, im just a key maker ;) 02:41 Zeno` That's nice 02:41 Zeno` Besides the tree, what are those blue things? 02:42 VanessaE those are test globes 02:42 VanessaE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM2b_vmM5rg 02:42 Zeno` globes? And the thing that looks like a fallen over robot is a test globe as well? 02:42 Zeno` watching 02:42 VanessaE Jordach's model, but being used as an actual honest to G*d mesh node 02:43 Zeno` oh cool! 02:44 * Zeno` wants 02:56 argyle ll 02:56 argyle ll 03:30 cities Oo nice tree 04:10 Zeno` err no matter I worked it out hehe 04:10 Zeno` oops 04:18 Fritigern Hmmmm..... So.... morefences alters the sand/gravel physics, making it so that they will no longere fall. 04:18 Fritigern *longer 04:21 Fritigern !tell PenguinDad morefences mess up the physics for sand desert sand and gravel so that they no longer fall. 04:21 MinetestBot Fritigern: I'll pass that on when PenguinDad is around 04:35 Fritigern !tell PenguinDad Going into craftings.lua and fences.lua and uncommenting the sand, desert sand and gravel items did solve the issue. You may want to change this in git as well, or find another way to not have the those nodes lose their falling_node group. 04:35 MinetestBot Fritigern: I'll pass that on when PenguinDad is around 04:36 * Fritigern wonders how nobody ever caught that. 04:50 Fritigern !tell PenguinDad Correction, i said uncommenting helped, but i meant of course commenting out those lines. 04:50 MinetestBot Fritigern: I'll pass that on when PenguinDad is around 05:29 OldCoder popoxoxo digs 3dforniture:chair at 05:29 OldCoder popoxoxo digs 3dforniture:table at 05:29 OldCoder popoxoxo digs 3dforniture:chair at 05:29 OldCoder Hi. Is this player creating or griefing> 05:29 OldCoder Hi. Is this player creating or griefing? * 05:31 Fritigern It depends. Did the player place that stuff first? 05:32 OldCoder Would the word be place? 05:33 OldCoder She did only this: take stuff from chest, dig wood, tried to dig protected things, dig the furniture 05:33 OldCoder Plus craft a wood pick 05:33 OldCoder Fritigern, ^ 05:34 OldCoder http://minetest.org/popoxo.txt 05:34 OldCoder Actually, the link is her history 05:34 OldCoder 05:34 OldCoder She talked about lava-ing people and seemed angry 05:34 Fritigern If that stuff doesn;t belong to her, then I wouldn;t call it griefing. Not yet. I think she is just new and doesn;t quite know what's what et 05:34 OldCoder See the link; it's close to the top of the session 05:34 Fritigern Looking now 05:36 OldCoder The -8xx coords are all in an underground house owned by somebody else 05:42 Fritigern It's hard to make that determination. The log you showed lacks the conversation. But if that person kept digging the other person;s nodes, even after she's been warned, then i would definitely call her a griefer. 05:43 OldCoder The question is, what does digging furniture do? 05:43 Fritigern Not only that, but the treat of lava'ing would be enough reason for me to preeptively bn her. 05:43 OldCoder Was she destroying the furniture? 05:43 Fritigern Digging furniture breaks it 05:43 Fritigern Yes 05:43 OldCoder So, what legitimate reason would there be to do this? 05:44 OldCoder Note the attempts to dig the protected furniture as well 05:44 OldCoder Thanks for your time BTW 05:44 OldCoder This is for a server that is unexpectedly busy 05:44 Fritigern Perhaps this user was an alt for another user? 05:44 OldCoder She was not real, I think, but was not the player who built the house either 05:44 OldCoder So, never mind 05:44 OldCoder One other question 05:45 OldCoder I've got an 8 year old in France who is asking in French how to protect his house. We have areas. 05:45 OldCoder Do you or anybody know how to use areas? 05:45 OldCoder It seems to work by default in some cases 05:45 Miner_48er Is markers installed? 05:45 OldCoder Because a house built by other places was protected and they hadn't done it 05:45 OldCoder yes 05:45 Fritigern I would have a look at the forum post that goes with the mod 05:45 OldCoder * by other players 05:45 OldCoder I did; I don't understand it 05:46 OldCoder There is a lot of debate about Yet Another Protection Mod 05:46 OldCoder But thank you 05:46 OldCoder I suppose I can undo some of the griefing using worldedit 05:46 Miner_48er 4 markers in a rectangle around the area needing protection and punch the first marker 05:46 OldCoder How did this happen to the players' house? They didn't know how to do it 05:47 OldCoder But never mind 05:47 Fritigern So, the mod is Yet Another Protection Mod? 05:47 OldCoder No, they were joking. The mod was Areas. 05:47 OldCoder How does one summon markers? 05:47 OldCoder I will use Google Translate to explain 05:48 Miner_48er or /area_pos1 /area_pos2 /protect area name 05:48 Fritigern ShadowNinja: PING! 05:48 OldCoder Will set1 and set2 work? 05:48 Miner_48er markers are crafted 05:48 OldCoder Ah 05:49 OldCoder Then the players didn't do it 05:49 OldCoder Did somebody protect their house for them? 05:49 Miner_48er who's name is it protected in? 05:49 OldCoder The first girl; but I'll figure it all out 05:49 OldCoder Thanks 05:50 Miner_48er yes set will work but requires setting the y axis too 05:50 Fritigern Areas if based on node_ownership. See https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=846 05:51 OldCoder Both of you, yes and thank you 05:51 Miner_48er List of CMDs https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas#chat-commands 05:51 OldCoder Good, Reading 05:51 Fritigern Miner_48er: Your link is better 05:51 OldCoder //1 and //2 will work, then 05:52 OldCoder If //2 is vertical 06:08 OldCoder Miner_48er, Fritigern, Erthome (another admin and friend of Sokomine) and I are now conversant with areas; thank you 06:23 OldCoder Does anybody awake use Blender for skins? 06:23 OldCoder Fun oddity; when I open character.blend and render, there is no face 06:23 OldCoder But everything else is there 06:23 OldCoder Tried two releases of Blender 07:26 Krock lol. the mobs' mod readme.txt is full of typs :3 07:26 Krock *typos 07:36 Nekrodes Krock: send a patch to correct them :Ã¾ 07:37 Krock oh right. those exist too.. 08:00 rubenwardy Hi all! 08:15 rub3nwardy Hi all! 08:16 rub3nwardy I am writing this in a HTML5 IRC client I wrote! 08:17 sfan5 rub3nwardy: not enough CSS 08:18 rub3nwardy You what mate? 08:18 sfan5 u wot m8 08:18 * kaeza meows at sfan5 08:18 * sfan5 meows at kaeza 08:18 kaeza hey rub3nwardy 08:19 rub3nwardy Hiya, kaeza. You inspired me XD 08:21 kaeza <3 08:21 rub3nwardy :P 08:22 rub3nwardy You can use it here: http://urkke0f34704.rubenwardy.koding.io/client/ It will all be sent under one username, though. And messages may not be received correctly if multiple log in. 08:23 rub3nwardy meow 08:23 rub3nwardy (ãƒŽà² ç›Šà² )ãƒŽå½¡HTML 08:23 rub3nwardy /help 08:23 rub3nwardy aw 08:25 rubenwardy It's more of a basis of something new. I have a vision, I just need to make it. 08:26 sfan5 cats 08:43 kaeza ASEprite for Windows now costs 10 USD ;_; 08:44 kaeza or "compile it yourself" 08:46 SaltyDog001 Vanessa you on? :) 08:47 Zeno` The paid version is signed by the lead developer though 08:48 SaltyDog001 anyone using the areas (protection) mod on their server? 08:48 SaltyDog001 with markers 08:49 Zeno` maybe 08:49 SaltyDog001 are you using the defaults or did you allow larger areas and more of them 08:49 Zeno` Umm.. let me look 08:49 Zeno` I think I allowed more of them 08:50 Zeno` What are the defaults? 08:50 SaltyDog001 I think 3 areas and something like 32x32 08:50 Zeno` I'm using: 08:50 Zeno` areas.self_protection = true 08:50 Zeno` areas.self_protection_max_size = {x=50, y=100, z=50} 08:50 Zeno` areas.self_protection_max_areas = 90 08:51 SaltyDog001 ok, I didn't want people to just 'clog' the server with useless ownership but I have one guy who does a fantastic job. 08:52 Zeno` You can probably just use areas.self_protection = false if you want to only allow one player to protect 08:52 SaltyDog001 Need to figure out how to give just him a lot more space. 08:52 SaltyDog001 I see 08:52 Zeno` I opened a request with ShadowNinja for specific users to have more than the allowed max areas 08:53 SaltyDog001 that would be great or that credit system to work 08:53 Zeno` He said he thought that was a good idea and would look into it 08:53 SaltyDog001 for now, I had this guy create 2nd account and then transfer ownership to his original profile. Seems to work. 08:54 SaltyDog001 actually I have an admin that has been huge help. I'm dumb as heck but he knows a lot. 08:55 SaltyDog001 Thank you for your input. 08:55 rubenwardy kjbadflkjabdsflkjbdsa ldalfkj asdlf basdl f f asdfn asdfl fl asdfln fjl asdfl dasfldjasf asdfljh adsflj dasfljasd fljads fljad ff lasd flasdf lasdj flasdf lasd flasf asldf asdlf 08:55 rubenwardy oops 08:56 Zeno` It was only last week this came up actually 08:56 Zeno` the other option is to give the person the areas priv if you trust them 08:56 Zeno` then they can make as many areas as they like 08:56 Zeno` (and destroy other people's areas of course) 08:56 SaltyDog001 ahhh not bad at all 08:57 SaltyDog001 so they still protect their area but the limit doesn't apply 08:58 Zeno` yeah, but they can also remove and build in (etc) other people's areas 08:58 SaltyDog001 right 08:58 Zeno` so you'd only give it to someone you trust 08:59 Zeno` none of the limits would apply to them; i.e. if they wanted a 1000x1000x1000 area they could protect that 08:59 SaltyDog001 i see 09:00 Zeno` That said a few players on my server have the areas priv; but they're long time players who have built heaps and I trust them 09:00 SaltyDog001 so in theory, could I protect such a large area, and then give him ownership to it? 09:00 Zeno` yes there would be nothing stopping him 09:01 SaltyDog001 If he's at say the 5 area limit, I wonder if that would work. 09:01 Zeno` he could also protect a very large area for another player 09:01 Zeno` yeah, it ignores all the limits 09:01 SaltyDog001 so I can give him more than 5 areas even if he doesn't have areas priv? 09:01 Zeno` oh, not yet 09:02 Zeno` hopefully soon when ShadowNinja implements the per user settings 09:02 SaltyDog001 I haven't tried sharing if that can exceed the limit. 09:02 Zeno` I'm not sure 09:02 Zeno` bbiab! dinner 09:02 SaltyDog001 thanks again for your help. 09:11 Krock https://github.com/SmallJoker/gemsverison2.0/ 09:23 * Krock throws https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=112809#p112809 at rubenwardy 09:24 fling http://dpaste.com/2BY6R95 09:24 fling I have luairc installed http://dpaste.com/3N2M5V4 09:25 fling do I need another stupid symlink? 09:33 Krock how to crash a client: teleport to 0 0 9999999 09:33 rubenwardy fixed, Krock 09:33 * Krock gives rubenwardy a cookie 09:35 Krock lel I'm getting the same fail as I saw some months ago 09:35 Krock the trrain turns black when I turn on bumpmapping 09:35 fling sfan5: Hello. 09:38 ninnghazad ShadowNinja: can you give me a status update on the fix for #1709 (the scriptapi-coroutine-objects stuff)? 09:38 * Krock would like to see the parallax occlusion as non-shader. everything's much brighter :D 09:39 Krock ninnghazad, try #minetest-dev 09:40 ninnghazad Krock: he's not in there, but seems to be here and in #minetest-mods 09:41 Krock oh 09:41 Krock lol 09:41 Krock he's on top of the list 09:49 ninnghazad ... le blind... 10:26 * sfan5 meows at fling 10:27 fling sfan5: had an issue with luasocket, already fixed with a downgrade 10:28 sfan5 fling: meow 10:37 fling sfan5: because of broken pkgconfig ;P 10:37 fling because of glib 10:52 fling Are there any new cool mods to try? :P 10:53 Krock fling, mob mods? 10:53 fling Krock: idk? 10:54 Fritigern Screwdriver has been improved. As in simplified 10:54 Krock fling, search random for mods :P 10:54 fling Krock: I have these mods installed -> http://dpaste.com/06DNHRC 10:55 fling Fritigern: in some mod? Or the default one? 10:55 Krock lol. "minetest-mod-" everywhere 10:55 Fritigern fling: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=10047 10:57 * Krock wonders why he still has more fps with 800 waving leaves as with 1 additional player on the world 11:05 * Krock is like wtf when pressing R and still having over 20 fps 13:31 minetestforfun Bonjour 13:32 Nekrodes salut 13:46 Fritigern Eau reservoir! 13:48 Krock !doge 13:48 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/l0YSsre.jpg 14:00 * sfan5 meows at Krock 14:03 * Krock meows at sfan5 14:03 Krock !cat 14:03 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/NKWGj9s.jpg 14:12 Krock What if the player would duck when Shift/Sneak is pressed? So it's possible to walk in floors, which are 1.5 nodes high 14:23 MinetestBot PenguinDad: 10-07 04:21 UTC morefences mess up the physics for sand desert sand and gravel so that they no longer fall. 14:30 Krock <3 glasslike drawtype 15:08 kaeza Krock, here, have some https://github.com/kaeza/minetest/tree/crouching 15:09 Krock kaeza, does it make the player smaller? 15:09 cities bailbonds! 15:09 kaeza maybe 15:11 kaeza Krock, not finished because lack of interest (that was long ago) 15:12 Krock kaeza, oh that's sad. 15:12 Krock it could be simply added to the current sneak key 15:13 kaeza lack of interest + fton of support stuff needed (changing player collision boxes, animation, etc) 15:14 kaeza + lazy, of course 15:17 Krock :/ 15:26 Hobodium Since I havn't had the opportunity to test it out myself, does anybody know if you can set light source intensity to be negative, or is it bounded to 0-15? 15:29 Hobodium And I guess more importantly, if that would even do what I would like it to do 15:30 PenguinDad Hobodium: it can only be within the 0-15 range 15:30 MinetestBot PenguinDad: 10-07 04:50 UTC Correction, i said uncommenting helped, but i meant of course commenting out those lines. 15:31 Hobodium Alrighty, that is what I figured. Thank you. Is it safe to assume that having an anti-light source is a relatively nontrivial task? 15:34 PenguinDad Hobodium: It shouldn't be too hard to code but we are all damn lazy :D 15:36 cities hell 15:36 cities I ordered less nicotine in my e-liquid 15:36 cities in an attempt to quit with it 15:36 Hobodium Well, I guess I'm gonna have to be not lazy for the first time in my life if I'm gonna finish my useless utilities 15:36 cities all day today I'm like...wanting something...anything...food? wateR? 15:36 cities can't figure it out 15:37 cities must be the lower nicotine content 15:48 realtinymonster hi 15:48 realtinymonster sfan5: http://harpbeta.tk/test-page 15:48 cities reality :) 15:48 realtinymonster Nyan! 15:48 realtinymonster lol 15:48 realtinymonster hi cities 16:02 PenguinDad Hej realtinymonster 16:03 realtinymonster hej PenguinDad 16:13 Krock omg a monster is hcovered behind the server 16:14 MiddleAgedServer hey, any minetesters located in Utah? 16:14 Krock Orang? 16:15 Krock Orang Utah 16:16 MiddleAgedServer ? 16:17 MiddleAgedServer Krock: what you talkin' about? 16:18 Hobodium I think orang utah is a foreign name for oragutans 16:19 MiddleAgedServer hmm 16:23 * Krock gives Hobodium a cookie from MiddleAgedServer s cookie box 16:23 * MiddleAgedServer slaps Krock 16:24 * Krock rickrolls MiddleAgedServer 16:24 Hobodium Krock calls you an ape and steals your cookies, are you going to just take that? 16:24 Krock Hobodium, (s)he just slapped me! 16:24 Hobodium I didn't see anything! :y 16:25 Krock hmm? 16:25 kaeza hmmm? 16:25 Amaz Hobodium, 18* 28MiddleAgedServer slaps Krock 16:25 * MiddleAgedServer slaps Krock again for Hobodium 16:26 Krock onemore 'm' an we call a mapgen dev 16:26 Hobodium You people keep speaking of violence against Krock that just isn't happening! 16:26 MiddleAgedServer lol 16:26 Krock Hobodium, wanna come at my house to have a proof for the slap? 16:26 Hobodium Kinky 16:27 Krock :P 16:28 MiddleAgedServer ElectronLibre! 16:29 ElectronLibre Good [night|morning|afternoon|evening|nether eternal night] everyone :). 16:29 ElectronLibre Hello MiddleAgedServer :). 16:29 MiddleAgedServer ElectronLibre: hehe, nether eternal night 16:30 DusXMT hi all 16:30 * ElectronLibre cant' remind who is MiddleAgedServer :Â°... 16:31 ElectronLibre Hello DusXMT. MiddleAgedServer : Yes I've just found it, it was boring always saying the same thing... ^^ 16:31 Krock ElectronLibre, fakehugemonster 16:31 realtinymonster ElectronLibre: hi 16:31 Amaz MiddleAgedServer = RealTinyMonster 16:31 Amaz Grr. 16:31 Krock woof. woof. 16:31 realtinymonster lol 16:31 ElectronLibre Ok, I see. 16:31 realtinymonster Anywho, hi! 16:31 ElectronLibre Now I remind you... ^^" 16:33 realtinymonster you remind me? 16:33 realtinymonster XD 16:33 ElectronLibre Or remember, I'm not very good to translate.. 16:33 ElectronLibre *for translation you see... 16:34 cities kiwiirc is blocked too 16:34 cities fun 16:34 Krock new feature: unlock the ultimativepickaxe by standing in front of a player, press Q and scroll the mouse weel 16:35 Amaz XD 16:36 ElectronLibre Interesting feature ^^.. 16:38 Krock ElectronLibre, it won't work if there's nobody in front of you 16:38 Krock optional dependencies: item_drop 16:39 kaeza press Alt+F4 for infinite mese! 16:39 ElectronLibre The Q key is the default drop key I think. I've changed the keys to use an external mouse with my right hand and every other keys with the left.. So I don't remember well.. 16:39 ElectronLibre Not Alt+F4 please xD.. 16:40 kaeza <_< 16:40 Krock ElectronLibre, shht 16:40 Krock kaeza, thx. 16:40 DusXMT oh my, it actually worked 16:41 Krock yeah. for me it solved the problem, too. 16:41 * kaeza wonders how many players would fall for that one if put in a sign in the rules 16:41 ElectronLibre Some months ago I was on a server when a player said to antoher to try to type Alt+F4 for a special window feature, 30 sec after the player left the game : time out.. 16:41 kaeza s/rules/rule board/ 16:41 kaeza hah 16:42 Krock ElectronLibre,you're wrong. 29s 16:42 Some_Donkus People still fall for alt+F4? 16:42 ElectronLibre Around 30 seconds Krock x).. 16:42 Krock Some_Donkus, you can get infinite mese if you press those 16:43 Some_Donkus That's like from the 90s 16:43 DusXMT CTRL+ALT+BKSP is even better, but distributions have lately been disabling that by default 16:43 Krock didn't know mese existed in 90s 16:43 DusXMT (that kills the X server) 16:43 ElectronLibre I've laughted during at least 5 minutes, it was so fun xD 16:43 Some_Donkus Actually yeah it is from the 90s, I remember people doing that in games when I was in school :P 16:43 ElectronLibre The player was using Windows.. 16:43 kaeza DusXMT, unfortunately, no worky on Windows :( 16:43 Krock DusXMT, I can't kill "x server" 16:43 Hobodium There is a game I played where the only two controls were Alt and F4. Fun game. 16:44 * PenguinDad hugs PenguinDad^Mobil 16:44 Krock Hobodium, click outside the window and press those in combination.... 16:44 * Krock gives PenguinDad^Mobil an 'e' 16:44 Hobodium I know what alt f4 does, I'm trying to find the game for you though 16:44 realtinymonster lol 16:45 ElectronLibre I've read on a forum the logs of a man who asked on a chan how to see some settings in ubuntu, and typed in a shell sudo rm -R -f /* after someone told him it was the right way.. 16:45 ElectronLibre (*the logs of? Is that english?) 16:46 Amaz ctrl+w for op on IRC! 16:46 PenguinDad^Mobil Nothing happens! 16:46 Hobodium Dangit, I wish I didn't have my work filter right now. 16:47 Some_Donkus ctrl+w for OP? Oh boy! 16:48 Some_Donkus :P 16:48 realtinymonster lol 16:48 kaeza :D 16:48 Some_Donkus Actually I wonder if Ctrl+W does it on mine. I just closed the tab like normal... brb 16:49 Some_Donkus Oh yeah it does. 16:49 Amaz XD 16:49 * ElectronLibre can see two PenguinDads. o.o 16:49 kaeza lel 16:49 realtinymonster haha 16:49 ElectronLibre Now eveybody know it's not a good idea to type Ctrl+W when you want to chat. 16:49 Amaz :P 16:50 Amaz Or alt+f4 when playing Minetest 16:50 cities but who was phone? 16:50 Some_Donkus If I were a game dev, I'd put a secret easter egg to display a rickroll or something so that you can tell your friends "Oh yeah you can enter the menu to change that with ctrl+R+O+L" 16:51 * PenguinDad^Phone meows at cities 16:51 DusXMT ctrl+w doesn't work on irssi :( 16:51 Some_Donkus cities: Phone? 16:52 PenguinDad^Phone DusXMT: Doesn't work in weechat either 16:52 ElectronLibre DusXMT, there is no tab in IRSSI so the only way to close it is typing /exit, or CTRL+C, or even clicking the cross in the right top.. 16:52 cities sorry an old internet meme that Im way too late to be referencing 16:52 Some_Donkus cities: I know of two people who were called that. One was a kid who accidentally blew himself up with a bomb and the other is a furry. 16:52 Some_Donkus One of those fur suit people. 16:52 Some_Donkus I don't know if he break dances though. 16:52 cities theres a lot of cats here 16:52 DusXMT ElectronLibre: Actually, there are tabs, they're just called "windows", and you can close them with /wc 16:53 cities my mama always said son on the internet one day people will pretend to be cats, don't believe them 16:53 ElectronLibre Ok, thank you DusXMT. 16:53 ElectronLibre cities, what about sfan5? 16:53 cities thats the one 16:53 sfan5 huh? 16:54 Hobodium http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Cat_on_laptop_-_Just_Browsing.jpg Hate to break it to you, cities 16:54 * ElectronLibre gives sfan5 default:mese 65535 16:55 * sfan5 meows at ElectronLibre 16:56 * PenguinDad^Phone pets sfan5 16:56 * sfan5 cats 16:57 cities lol Hobodium 16:57 cities he doesn't have his paws on the home keys 16:58 ElectronLibre Is this you sfan5 on the photo? ^^ 16:58 sfan5 no 17:00 Krock Hobodium, that's not healthy. get more than 30cm space between your face and the screen 17:01 Hobodium cities, when you don't have human fingers you don't type like humans do, geeze. Hunt and peck is all you can really do with such tiny paws 17:01 cities hunt and peck is for birds 17:02 Krock !cat 17:02 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/CkgC24b.jpg 17:02 Calinou !pony 17:03 Krock !calinou 17:03 PenguinDad^Phone !doge 17:03 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/Ck3qYFb.jpg 17:03 * ElectronLibre realy likes MinetestBot. 17:04 kaeza I love how firefox uses 400% of CPU time to download/render an image 17:04 kaeza or for anything, really 17:04 Calinou it depends on OS more than browser, kaeza 17:04 Calinou Windows does 2D acceleration way better 17:05 ElectronLibre kaeza, me too.. And when it loads a javascript file... It freezes xD.. 17:05 rubenwardy Hi all! 17:05 Calinou tell Web developers not to overuse animations and autoplay videos 17:05 Calinou hi rubenwardy 17:05 Hobodium autoplay videos should be a crime 17:05 Calinou kaeza, that's the reason battery life is often better on Windows 17:05 Calinou among other things 17:05 Calinou Hobodium, it's a trend to put autoplay (soundless) video on background of a landing page 17:05 PenguinDad That doesn't happen to me :) 17:05 kaeza Calinou, under same OS and conditions, Chrom{e|ium} has way better performance 17:05 Krock !doge 17:05 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/3pnQciA.jpg 17:06 kaeza and does not lock up the VM <_< 17:06 Hobodium Calinou: Given the (us/ca specific) trend of low bandwidth speed and bandwidth limits, it should still be a crime! 17:06 ElectronLibre Hello rubenwardy. 17:08 PenguinDad Hobodium: on my 200 kbit/s line it should really be a crime 17:10 Calinou Blender 2.72 is out. 17:10 realtinymonster yay! nobody cares! 17:11 PenguinDad omg I won't download it! 17:11 ElectronLibre Calinou : yeah! updates! With only 30Ko/s downloading \o/! 17:11 kaeza autoplay should die already, except maybe for sites meant to watch videos (e.g. YT/vimeo/mediacrush) 17:11 ElectronLibre No I'm joking thank you Calinou ^^. 17:13 PenguinDad !tell zlsa Fix your SSL 17:13 MinetestBot PenguinDad: I'll pass that on when zlsa is around 17:13 MinetestBot zlsa: 10-07 17:13 UTC Fix your SSL 17:15 Calinou changed its theme and language again :( it reset 17:15 Amaz O.o 17:15 Calinou kaeza, even for video playing sites it's annoying (loud music) 17:15 Krock lol 17:16 sfan5 !ban zlsa!*@*$##FIX_YOUR_CONNECTION 17:16 * ElectronLibre thinks zlsa has got big problems with SSL. 17:17 Calinou he's being trickled by certificate authorities 17:17 sfan5 this has nothing to do with CAs 17:17 zat WTF IS Hempukka65!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:18 DusXMT Hey, is the shouting necessary? 17:18 kaeza not enough exclamation points!!!! 17:18 zat yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:18 realtinymonster zat! 17:18 Calinou Â¡Â¡Â¡Â¡Â¡Â¡Â¡ 17:18 zat hey realtinymonster!!!!!!! 17:18 realtinymonster lol 17:18 realtinymonster !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 17:18 ElectronLibre What's going on? What or who is Hempukka65? 17:18 sfan5 what? 17:19 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: It's a trap!!1! 17:19 Some_Donkus WHAT'S ALL THIS SHOUTING??? 17:19 DusXMT while (1) putc ('!'); 17:19 sfan5 whatÂ¿ 17:19 kaeza â€¼â€¼â€¼â€¼â€¼â€¼ 17:19 zat someone who everyday tries to connect to my server with an... EMPTY PASSWORD!!!!!! 17:19 Some_Donkus Oh wait... I just had my caps lock key pressed. Never mind 17:19 ElectronLibre Ok, but what sort of thing is it? A player? 17:19 sfan5 à² â–ƒà² 17:19 ElectronLibre Empty password? Ho my god! ==> disallow_empty_password = true. 17:20 ElectronLibre (sfan5, are you using Unicode? <_<) 17:20 sfan5 no 17:20 zat I never said it ever connected lol 17:20 sfan5 I'm using ASCII as you can see 17:20 PenguinDad Everybody get your Shoutgun! :D 17:20 ElectronLibre Oh, ok. 17:20 zat Server: Hempukka65 supplied empty password :D 17:21 * ElectronLibre takes a lasergun and a rocket launcher. 17:21 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: you now can jump with rockets! 17:21 * ElectronLibre jumps to shoot. 17:21 * Some_Donkus gets his rifle. ï¸»ãƒ‡â”³â•ãƒ¼ 17:21 * ElectronLibre blowed up himself. 17:22 * ElectronLibre didn't hit the frag limit >_> 17:22 Krock while(true) continue; 17:22 Some_Donkus Wait I got something we can all use... 17:22 Some_Donkus â–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆÛžâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆ ]â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–„â–ƒ 17:22 Some_Donkus â–‚â–„â–…â–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–…â–„â–ƒâ–‚ 17:22 Some_Donkus Iâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆâ–ˆ]. 17:22 Some_Donkus â—¥âŠ™â–²âŠ™â–²âŠ™â–²âŠ™â–²âŠ™â–²âŠ™â–²âŠ™â—¤â€¦ 17:22 Krock pastebin please 17:23 Hobodium Your treads seem to have sheared off 17:23 Some_Donkus srry 17:23 zat 24 minerals registered already yay lol 17:23 Some_Donkus Yeah I'm not all that good at parking. 17:23 * ElectronLibre 's eyes are on fire seeing all this light green on black. 17:23 PenguinDad while "" do moo() end 17:23 Krock Error: Can not convert string to bool 17:23 Hobodium What's wrong with light green on black? 17:24 Krock 09,01I don't know. Such matrix. 17:24 Hobodium I prefer light green on black to white on black. Much easier for me to read. 17:25 Krock Lol. such fail. amaze. https://github.com/SmallJoker/yappy/commit/5e74f8de#diff-d7d74284e2e39f6c06d199c8e2bedbd0L192 17:25 PenguinDad Hobodium: I prefer light grey on black 17:25 cities I'm using black on white :( 17:25 kaeza while(true) continue; 17:25 ElectronLibre Hobodium, I don't like light.. My eyes too, it hurt them... 17:25 kaeza why `continue`? 17:25 Krock I prefer light light grey on white 17:26 Hobodium Wait, people like light? I thought this was a chat for cave dwellers 17:26 Krock kaeza, to avoid { and } 17:26 Hobodium Krock, you are a monster 17:26 kaeza Krock, while(1) ; 17:26 cities I prefer to just not look at the screen period 17:26 * DusXMT is a fan of the green phosphor classic 17:26 Krock kaeza, meh. 17:26 kaeza Krock, also, for(;;); 17:27 kaeza less characters :D 17:27 Krock .. 17:27 PenguinDad â€¦ 17:27 Krock !c count("for(;;);"); 17:27 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 17:27 Krock !c count("for(;;);") 17:27 MinetestBot NameError: name 'count' is not defined 17:27 PenguinDad !c "for(;;);".length 17:27 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'length' 17:27 PenguinDad :( 17:28 kaeza !c len("asdf") 17:28 MinetestBot 4 17:28 Krock uuh. kaeza mastered it. 17:29 kaeza it's just python 17:29 kaeza !c __import__("os").name 17:29 MinetestBot kaeza: Sorry, but no double underscores. 17:29 Krock 2lazy2google 17:29 kaeza :( 17:29 realtinymonster !c print("no") 17:29 MinetestBot NameError: name 'print' is not defined 17:29 realtinymonster such annoy 17:30 PenguinDad !c ___import___("Triple underscores :>") 17:30 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, but no double underscores. 17:30 Hobodium Wouldn't it just print the result of whatever you send it anyways? 17:31 kaeza !c "yby clguba".encode("rot13") 17:31 MinetestBot LookupError: 'rot13' is not a text encoding; use codecs.encode() to handle arbitrary codecs 17:31 kaeza !c "yby clguba".encode("rot-13") 17:31 MinetestBot LookupError: 'rot-13' is not a text encoding; use codecs.encode() to handle arbitrary codecs 17:31 kaeza :( 17:31 kaeza okay, I leave the bot alone now 17:32 sfan5 !c ''.join(chr(ord(c) + 13) for c in "yby clguba") 17:32 MinetestBot '\x86o\x86-pyt\x82on' 17:32 Krock :/ 17:32 sfan5 !c ''.join((chr(ord(c) + 13) % ord("z")) for c in "yby clguba") 17:32 MinetestBot TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting 17:33 sfan5 :s 17:33 PenguinDad !c ''.join(chr(ord(c) - 13) for c in "yby clguba") 17:33 MinetestBot 'lUl\x13V_ZhUT' 17:33 kaeza !c ''.join(chr((ord(c) + 13) % 26) for c in "yby clguba") 17:33 MinetestBot '\x04\x07\x04\x13\x08\x11\x0c\x00\x07\x06' 17:33 PenguinDad uuuh 17:33 DusXMT clguba almost sounds like cibula (which means onion) 17:33 kaeza eh 17:33 Krock ##minetestbot 17:34 sfan5 !c ''.join(chr((ord(c) - 97 + 13) % 26 + 97) for c in "yby clguba") 17:34 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 17:34 sfan5 !c ''.join(chr((ord(c) - 97 + 13) % 26 + 97) for c in "yby clguba") 17:34 MinetestBot 'lolapython' 17:34 sfan5 ^ kaeza 17:35 PenguinDad a => 17:35 * Krock gives sfan5 a cookie 17:35 kaeza s/a/ / :) 17:52 PenguinDad Calinou: paramat is a core developer? 17:52 Calinou no idea 17:52 Calinou still a developer I'd say 17:53 Calinou even though he probably doesn't have commit access 17:53 Calinou but you can't say Minetest is KISS when we have BlockMen or such 17:54 PenguinDad But you're right regarding KISS 17:54 * ElectronLibre check : BlockMen isn't on the chan. >_> 17:56 rubenwardy It could be worse 17:57 rubenwardy :P 17:57 kaeza like FM <_< 17:58 * kaeza hides 17:58 ElectronLibre FM? 17:58 PenguinDad FailMiner 17:58 kaeza Frequency Modulation 17:58 kaeza :P 17:58 kaeza Freeminer 17:58 PenguinDad lol 17:58 rub3nwardy Hilarious 17:59 ElectronLibre Oh, Freeminer, ok. 17:59 kaeza (a fork of Minetest) 17:59 ElectronLibre Yes, I know it. 17:59 * PenguinDad wonders why all minetest forks suck 17:59 rub3nwardy At least it doesn't contains a pokemon or mlp mod 18:00 * sfan5 curls up to rub3nwardy's lap 18:00 rubenwardy Lol. My IRC client can't handle /me yet 18:00 ElectronLibre rubenwardy, which one are you using? xD 18:00 Calinou why not? 18:00 kaeza hmm 18:00 PenguinDad But it doesn't contain a kitten mod either :( 18:00 rubenwardy Calinou: rub3nwardy 18:00 Calinou you're using the same client (and kernel!) as me 18:01 kaeza !c "\1ACTION :is awesome\1" 18:01 MinetestBot '\x01ACTION :is awesome\x01' 18:01 kaeza :( 18:01 rubenwardy I am making a HTML5 client using NodeJS. 18:01 kaeza actually, misplaced colon anyway 18:02 PenguinDad npm is the diva of package managers >_> 18:10 rub3nwardy !c 2+2 18:10 MinetestBot 4 18:16 cities hi shadowzone 18:16 shadowzone Hi. 18:16 cities I connected to inchra 18:16 shadowzone I see that. 18:16 shadowzone Welcome to InchraNet. 18:40 * rubenwardy can't find any documentation on how /me works 18:40 * shadowzone does /me 18:40 * VanessaE looks at rubenwardy 18:40 ElectronLibre ./me 18:40 rubenwardy I see the problem 18:40 kaeza rubenwardy, PRIVMSG :\1ACTION \1 18:40 ElectronLibre Like in minetest ^^. 18:40 rubenwardy I was trying to use DuckDuckGo as a search engine 18:44 ElectronLibre I takes me around 30 minutes watching every new posts on the forum every evening >_>... 18:44 ElectronLibre *It 18:44 * kaeza tests 18:46 OldCoder kaeza, FWIW I'm running MT IRC channels over at Inchra. They work fine. 18:46 OldCoder SilverCrab is a success but we need to merge with other copies. 18:46 kaeza OldCoder, nice 18:47 OldCoder The three main 0.4.10 worlds are Meowtest (sfan5), Landrush (pitriss), and SilverCrab (me, Sokomine, Erthome) 18:47 OldCoder Oh, and Lord of the Test (FishyWet and Amaz) 18:47 OldCoder The others will return one by one 18:47 OldCoder 18:48 cities whats this places connection with inchrea 18:49 * rub3nwardy is awesome! 18:50 shadowzone I don't think there is any connection. 18:50 cities I saw someone else mention it 18:51 rubenwardy SilverCrab? Don't you mean RedCrab? 18:52 rubenwardy Oh, is it a clone 18:52 ElectronLibre RedCrab is closed, isn't it? 18:52 rub3nwardy Yeah, it went offline,. 18:57 Krock Y? 18:58 rub3nwardy Owner stopped paying, I think 18:58 rub3nwardy I haven't used it since late 2012 18:58 Calinou I am making a HTML5 client using NodeJS. 18:58 Calinou cool, I would like to see more in-Web clients 18:59 rubenwardy It is a new take on an old idea 19:00 rubenwardy Hmmm... 19:00 * rub3nwardy is cool! 19:00 kaeza :D 19:01 rub3nwardy screenie: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/VyDG507cieS5.png 19:07 OldCoder RedCrab was up until about 2 weeks ago. It simply broke. 19:08 OldCoder Yes, SilverCrab is a capture. Incomplete but a lot is there including Travelnet cities. 19:08 OldCoder We're going to try to merge two other captures; a total of three. 19:08 OldCoder We've been tweaking mods to reassemble a compatible _game 19:08 OldCoder 19:08 Calinou it looks strangeâ€¦ several channels at once? 19:08 Calinou (could be useful) 19:09 OldCoder Hm? What channels? 19:09 Calinou OldCoder, this is why I don't believe in overmodded servers (sadly the majority of popular servers) 19:09 Calinou screenie: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/VyDG507cieS5.png 19:09 Calinou on this 19:09 OldCoder R 19:09 OldCoder cities, There are Minetest people at Inchra. But this is the official channel. 19:10 cities oh ok 19:10 OldCoder We're trying to find the right balance of mods, Calinou. Some are clearly a bit much. Nether, I'm talking to you :P 19:13 BlockMen Calinou, got your period again? 19:15 Calinou OldCoder, personally I find the game better with only a few mods that really answer a need 19:15 Calinou so heavy mods like Mesecons can be fine, depending on your server 19:22 Krock Megaf_, http://i.imgur.com/qZOKn5U.png 19:22 Megaf_ lol Krock 19:22 Krock got one GFLOP! 19:23 Krock \o/ 19:23 Megaf_ my Raspberry Pi is just 24 times faster than your CPU 19:23 * Krock doesn't care llalaalla 19:23 Megaf_ and using only 3.5 Watts for the whole board 19:23 Megaf_ Krock: your money cares 19:23 Megaf_ anyway, we cant run minetest server on the GPU 19:25 Megaf_ so a Broadcom VideoCore IV @ 250 MHz is 24 times faster than a Celeron at 3060 MHz 19:32 Calinou don't compare GFLOPS or such 19:32 sfan5 Megaf_: you can't compare GPU gflops with CPU flops 19:32 Calinou compare real task speeds 19:32 sfan5 +g 19:32 Calinou a Titan has ~1,050 GFLOPS IIRC 19:37 shadowzone !seen myself 19:37 MinetestBot shadowzone: Sorry, I haven't seen myself around. 19:37 ElectronLibre This bot is crazy '_'. 19:37 sfan5 !ignore *@unaffiliated/shadowzone 19:37 MinetestBot sfan5: '*!*@unaffiliated/shadowzone' added to ignore list. 19:38 Jordach #rekt 19:38 sfan5 nono 19:38 OldCoder Calinou, but people like decorative blocks and furniture. Beds, TV sets, plants, etc. Why shouldn't a world be comfortable and pleasant? 19:38 sfan5 [ ] rekt 19:38 sfan5 [ ] not rekt 19:38 Jordach sfan5, needs airhorns 19:38 sfan5 [x] tyranosaurus rekt 19:38 sfan5 (or however you spell that) 19:38 cities I need to get me one of those raspberry pis 19:39 cities don't know what the crap to do with it though 19:39 shadowzone I have a rasberry pi. 19:39 shadowzone Somewhere. 19:39 sfan5 cities: buy a banana pi, better 19:39 cities of course you do you're a child prodigy 19:39 PenguinDad Why is there still no strawberry e? 19:39 OldCoder straw-berr-e ? 19:40 shadowzone I am? 19:40 cities maybe getting one I can learn how to program 19:40 Hobodium banana pis have their own issues 19:41 MinetestBot You don't need a rPI to start programming, even your own computer is fine! 19:41 shadowzone cities, do you need servos? 19:41 Hobodium Oh crap, MinetestBot gained sentience! The robot war is now! 19:42 Amaz XD 19:42 cities ern what shadowzone 19:42 shadowzone Look it up. 19:42 cities I look up about every third word that gets posted in here. 19:42 PenguinDad Hobodium: http://what-if.xkcd.com/5/ :P 19:42 cities I still don't know what it is. 19:42 sfan5 now who was this? 19:43 cities A servomechanism, sometimes shortened to servo, is an automatic device that uses error-sensing negative feedback to correct the performance of a mechanism and is defined by its function.[1] It usually includes a built-in encoder.[2] 19:43 sfan5 ooh 19:43 shadowzone That. 19:43 sfan5 meow, Jordach :3 19:43 cities what the heck is that 19:43 shadowzone If not get a beaglebone. 19:43 Hobodium PenguinDad: Counterpoint: http://www.redicecreations.com/ul_img/24525finalform_.jpg 19:43 shadowzone It is almost the same as a rPI but it doesn't have servos, and runs better. 19:44 PenguinDad lol 19:44 cities There are already many articles out there comparing Arduino, Raspberry Pi, and BeagleBone Black; this is not one of those articles. I believe it is clear that Arduino is in a different league than the Raspberry Pi or BeagleBone Black, and serves an entirely different purpose. 19:44 shadowzone It is. 19:44 cities I don't know what servos is 19:45 shadowzone I have a friend on here that uses the beaglebone and the Arduino. 19:45 Hobodium cities: little motors that spin 19:46 Hobodium well, not necessarily little, but I figured we were tlaking about servos that arduinos and beagles use 19:47 cities umm well 19:47 cities raspberri pi has more ports and Iw ouldn't need a USB hub? 19:47 cities and I already have a SD card 19:48 Hobodium usb hub is a depends. You need a hub if you plan on running anything that uses poer 19:48 Hobodium power* although mice and keyboards are usually good 19:49 cities well that's all very interesting 19:49 cities never heard of the beaglebone before today 19:49 sfan5 Hobodium: whats wrong with banana pies? 19:50 cities someone has a video on youtube of minecraft on raspberry pi 19:51 Calinou Calinou, but people like decorative blocks and furniture. Beds, TV sets, plants, etc. Why shouldn't a world be comfortable and pleasant? 19:51 Calinou it ends up clogging everyone's loading times, RAM and suchâ€¦ 19:51 Calinou giving more stuff doesn't make people more creative 19:51 Calinou in fact, it can be the inverse 19:52 Calinou there is a (proprietary) Pi edition, cities 19:52 Calinou it sucks 19:52 cities I'm still in the dark about those things. What happens when you connect them to a monitor, keyboard, and turn them on 19:52 cities theres no OS? its a command line or something? 19:52 Hobodium sfan5: Not to disparage it, but if you plan on doing anything with the GPIO then you will find that not many of the premade addon boards will work with it, and there wasn't a very in depth gpio framework for it last I looked into it. 19:56 cities omg theres so many 19:56 cities operating systems you can put on it 19:58 cities that sounds fun to mess with 19:59 Hobodium They are fun, although if you are looking to learn how to program there are better resources to do so. 20:00 cities well 20:00 cities aside from the learning 20:00 cities looks fun 20:00 Calinou browsing skin menu, when suddenlyâ€¦ 20:00 cities It'd be an accomplish for me just to get raspian or something running on there 20:01 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/IvzMbhqsfgqE.png 20:03 Calinou PenguinDad, ^ 20:06 PenguinDad I've already seen these skins 20:09 Hobodium How come all these companies are providing service bundles for students after I have left college, blargh. I want free services! I'm still poor! 20:21 Krock Calinou, by nman3600, eh? :P 20:21 PenguinDad Krock: yesh 20:22 Calinou Hobodium, student discounts are scams 20:24 Hobodium I understand a lot of the time it is to lock people into ecosystems, but when it comes down to "have this service available so I can know how to use it properly so I can get a real job or not have any learning opportunity whatsoever" I know which I would prefer 20:39 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix object reference pushing functions when called from coroutines 13741df99 http://git.io/m-Irag (152014-10-07T16:37:45-04:00) 20:40 * PenguinDad just laughed so hard he nearly died 20:40 shadowzone o.O 20:41 PenguinDad Trap remix with airhorns xD 20:42 OldCoder Calinou, then Lego should only have red 3x2 bricks and nothing else? 20:45 Calinou no 20:45 Calinou but go slowly on which mods you add 20:46 Calinou people often go like â€œI'll need this! â€¦aand this! â€¦and this!â€ when they add mods without knowing why 20:46 Calinou it's a frequent problem in software 20:49 Jordach ...or in BFDs case: get what you're given 20:50 Hobodium I can agree that is a major problem (even within mods themselves) when it comes to the mine* games. It's really easy to add features without adding game or fun. 20:50 Calinou if you were complaining about the lack of building blocks, I'd say you get a comparable number of blocks to Minecraft if you use minetest_game + More Blocks 20:50 Calinou there's an hyper-modded server I play on, I often stutter (despite having 60 FPS), feels like having 40 FPS at best 20:51 Calinou ambience sounds can't be disabled client-side without disabling all sounds 20:52 speak Hobodium: That's why it's nice to have a well though out minegame, which has been balanced carefully 20:52 speak Which I haven't been able to find yet in a minegame! 20:52 MinetestBot 02[git] 04LeMagnesium -> 03minetest/minetest: Add a better error message when trying to teleport another player without bring privileges 13cba038e http://git.io/EogvJA (152014-10-07T16:51:50-04:00) 20:52 Hobodium speak: Yeah. It's also why I absolutely love the minetest layout, both because you can make a custom game package with all the mods you want easily, and since all the code is editable you can manually tweak it to perfection! 20:53 speak Hobodium: Yeah for sure. It just helps if someone does all the balancing for you, if you don't have time for tweaking 20:53 MinetestBot 02[git] 04LeMagnesium -> 03minetest/minetest: Add a better error message when trying to teleport another player without bring privileges 13b98e8d6 http://git.io/olhQcQ (152014-10-07T16:52:52-04:00) 20:54 * PenguinDad throws LeRubidium at MinetestBot :> 20:54 Hobodium Right, but as that potential person I like having the ability to do so instead of having to arbitrarily including mods that might have extremely different power levels and not being able to fix it 20:55 speak But yeah, not critiquing minetest, I'm sure that with time some amazing minegames will emerge 20:57 zat player transfer distance should be configurable.... 20:58 Amaz Can the colorize modifier by used with overlaid teaxtures only, so like just the side of the grass on a dirt with grass node, and not the dirt underneath? 21:00 Calinou Amaz, with a hack, yes, but not like you would expect 21:00 Calinou 1) have grass side texture 21:00 Calinou 2) colour it 21:00 Calinou 3) have dirt texture with the grass pixels (on top) removed 21:01 Calinou overlay that all, in the right order 21:01 Calinou no guarantees, but that could work 21:01 Calinou you need an additional texture for the dirt 21:02 Amaz So the dirt and grass are different textures? 21:02 Calinou they already are? 21:02 Amaz I think so. 21:02 Calinou but here you make a dirt texture where you remove the top pixels, to let the grass texture, which will be below, seen 21:02 kilbith both are concenated 21:02 Amaz Right. 21:03 kilbith with [image1.png]^[image2] 21:03 Amaz That sounds promising. 21:04 BlockMen AFAIK you can set an order of modfieres with breaks 21:05 BlockMen at least there was a pull for that 21:06 Amaz Okay. 21:11 PenguinDad My nodes are vomiting pixel garbage D: http://a.pomf.se/sytyjm.png 21:13 Amaz Yay! 21:13 Amaz It works! 21:13 Hobodium That really is vomit, isn't it 21:13 Hobodium With a hint of patriotism 21:29 OldCoder shadowzone or ShadowNinja is areas mod yours? 21:29 OldCoder I think selecting a small area or an elevated one crashes the server 21:30 ShadowNinja OldCoder: It's mine. 21:30 shadowzone It is ShadowNinja's. 21:30 shadowzone ShadowNinja, Shadowserver crashed, FYI. 21:30 OldCoder Is this a known issue? Thanks. I just crashed SilverCrab twice. 21:30 ShadowNinja OldCoder: > 32,000 nodes away maybe. 21:30 OldCoder No, 2 nodes away 21:30 OldCoder I'll experiment further 21:30 ShadowNinja OldCoder: Ping timeout, not crash. 21:30 OldCoder But it happened twice. Happened instantly. 21:31 OldCoder A player placed a block. 21:31 ShadowNinja OldCoder: Error messages? 21:31 OldCoder None; just a total lockup 21:31 OldCoder I did area_pos1 and pos2 around the block 21:31 OldCoder /set_owner name name 21:31 OldCoder Lockup. Not a known issue? 21:31 aldobr hi all 21:31 ShadowNinja Odd, SilverCrab has a lot of areas, but I've used just as many areas on a test server without a hitch. 21:32 OldCoder Is it the small size of the area? 21:32 OldCoder I'll test using a copy of the world, maybe this weekend 21:32 aldobr anybody knows a definitive way to detect if a file exists in minetest mod ? 21:32 aldobr besides opening it for read 21:32 ShadowNinja OldCoder: No, not a known issue. And I have working 1x1x1 areas. 21:32 OldCoder ShadowNinja, thank you then; see above. I will test. 21:32 OldCoder If it is 100% reproducible I will invite you to the copy. 21:33 kaeza aldobr, no other way, unless you want to pull in luafs or something like that 21:33 aldobr ok 21:33 ShadowNinja aldobr: Nope, other than even hackier ways such as using os.execute to call stat. 21:33 ShadowNinja Or LFS, of course. 21:33 aldobr ok, opening the file for read is almost good enough 21:42 zat1 kaeza: firearms is deeeeeed 21:43 PenguinDad zat1: indeeeeeed 21:45 zat1 its bork 21:51 Lugal763462 hey guys, can you send me the link to the best creature mod? with sand monster, humen, and animals? 21:54 Miner_48er Lugal763462 search forum.minetest.net 21:55 kaeza zat1, error pls 21:56 kaeza zat1, also, old version or new version? 21:59 Lugal763462 found it 21:59 Lugal763462 but why is it not in the ingame mod store? 22:02 kaeza because the developer didn't submit it yet 22:02 kaeza ? 22:05 Lugal763462 that's not the mod I meant, the humen are missing 22:05 Lugal763462 where do I find it? 22:05 aldobr let me check something : if i issue minetest.after(), the event is triggered, will it trigger again or its just one shot ? 22:05 kaeza one shot 22:05 aldobr is there a problem if i retrigger it from inside the called function ? 22:06 aldobr schedulerautosave = function() scheduler.savescheduler(datafile) minetest.after(schedulerautosaveticks, schedulerautosave) end 22:06 aldobr like this 22:06 aldobr will it clog the stack ? 22:06 PenguinDad Lugal763462: this one? https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest_mods_creatures 22:06 kaeza not at all, but use the `local function foo()` idiom instead of `[local] foo = function()` 22:07 kaeza (and do use `local` unless your function is a documented public API) 22:07 aldobr ok 22:07 kaeza do not pollute the global environment any more :( 22:08 PenguinDad kaeza: Luapeace :D 22:08 kaeza :D 22:08 aldobr whats wrong with name = function () ? 22:09 kaeza aldobr, it creates a global function, and if you mean `local foo = function()`, then if you reference `foo` inside itself, Lua won't take it as the same "variable" 22:09 aldobr hmmm 22:10 kaeza (in that case, it would look for a global `foo`) 22:10 kaeza Lua handles it correctly if you use `local function foo()` 22:11 aldobr i am rewriting all my mods in a more sober fashion 22:11 aldobr instead of hacking around i am writing clear apis for reutilization 22:12 aldobr i am working now on the scheduler api 22:12 aldobr for the mint mod 22:23 Lugal763462 the mod is not working properly, but it seems to be the right one 22:25 Lugal763462 the mods are not shown , just pink squares 22:25 Lugal763462 what do I do? 22:29 zat1 Vadtec gk; ifoodlk .do;gsl 22:29 zat1 kaeza: its current version*** 22:29 zat1 (sorry) 22:30 zat kaeza: firearmslib/explosion.lua:44: attempt to index field 'entity' (a nil value) 22:40 kaeza zat, you are using older version. use https://github.com/kaeza/mt-firearms 22:41 zat kaeza: uh when did you update it 22:42 kaeza according to git log, May 31 (probably a bit before that) 22:43 zat loooool 22:43 kaeza err, October 13th, 2013 actually 22:43 zat uh there are no aliases for the old items 22:44 kaeza that's because it's a complete rewrite 22:45 kaeza ditched some useless stuff and added more eye candy ;) 22:45 kaeza also, OMG zoom! 22:49 zat kaeza: http://uppix.com/f-screenshot_3972754346dc20017cb12.jpg 22:56 kaeza zat, oops, forgot to push the patch. here https://github.com/kaeza/mt-firearms/commit/80de478a9f1b9bff00da861cc0b94a3aa3b1e337 22:56 zat loooooool 23:08 Fritigern Playing with the skins updater python script. I know nothing about programming in Python, but i looked up the error that i kept recieving, which was "NameError: name 'StandardError' is not defined" 23:08 zat loooooool 23:08 Fritigern Turns out that StandardErroor was removed from Python 3, 23:09 iqualfragile turns out Erroor is not the correct spelling? 23:09 Fritigern So.... I replaced all instances of StandardError with Exception 23:09 Fritigern Don;t be an ass, iqualfragile 23:11 Fritigern Anyway, the script still exists with an error, but it is different now, and it appears to be more relevant now as it is about a completely different line. "AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'read'" 23:11 Fritigern Before, it threw an error about the error (no trypo, it threw an error about the error) 23:13 iqualfragile Fritigern: gib code 23:13 Fritigern What? 23:13 iqualfragile give me the code you are currently looking at so i can colaborate 23:14 Fritigern Pastebinning... 23:14 iqualfragile no 23:14 iqualfragile not pastebin 23:15 Fritigern Too bad, Pastebin is what i use. http://pastebin.com/t0YAWTng 23:15 iqualfragile too bad i can't help you then 23:15 Fritigern Well, screw you then 23:15 iqualfragile but most likely he tries to parse some strings as int 23:16 iqualfragile in python3 you can just do int(string) 23:16 iqualfragile hope that helps 23:16 iqualfragile also please don't behave rudely, im trying to help you here 23:17 zat iqualfragile: so whats the issue with pastebin? 23:23 iqualfragile Fritigern: https://github.com/SmallJoker/minetest-u_skinsdb try this? 23:24 iqualfragile butâ€¦ dude that code looks ugl 23:26 Lugal763462 lol, today I was reading an article about open source programmers being rude, and now I see people bein rude in this chat room :P 23:26 Lugal763462 I hope its now always like that 23:26 Fritigern at IS the code that i have trouble with. Note the instances of the deprecated StandardError, and the hashbang for Python 3 23:26 iqualfragile Lugal763462: oh the big systemd flamewar will rage on for eternity 23:27 iqualfragile Fritigern: i will take a swing at it, 10 minutes 23:27 zat Lugal763462: only certain people are 23:27 zat it speaks about themselves rather than being programmers 23:28 iqualfragile Lugal763462: for example: usually im rude, but at the moment im a programmer so im not, understood? 23:29 Lugal763462 lol 23:32 Lugal763462 what was the reason for the systemd flamewar? 23:33 iqualfragile Lugal763462: systemd started out as a superious init system for linux, which sped up the startup by quite a lot, everybody was happy with that 23:33 Fritigern BRB 23:33 iqualfragile but then it started becoming a bigger project that replaces lots of linux software and people are not so happy about that 23:36 Lugal763462 oh ok :O 23:40 Fritigern Back 23:41 Fritigern So, the biggest question that i have about the python script is why does it error after a seemingly random amount of pages? What causes the error, and why won;t the script recover from it? 23:42 Fritigern I know nothing about writing python, so i can't really find out on my own. 23:45 Fritigern Krock [ 23:46 Fritigern oops, wrong line 23:54 iqualfragile Fritigern: yes, you can, python is stupidly easy to learn 23:54 iqualfragile but you won't have to, im rewriting the script at the moment 23:55 Fritigern I saw that a patch was submitted earlier. Replacing f.write(base64.b64decode(s["img"])) with f.write(base64.b64decode(bytes(s["img"], 'utf-8'))). Giving that a whirl 23:56 iqualfragile Fritigern: also, don't worry, whoever wrote that skript clearly does not know python either 23:59 Fritigern Well, Krock forked it from dmonty, and used his script as a basis, but never seems to have fixed the errors in it, just applied some patches without testing them. Or at least that goes for the last patch