Time Nick Message 00:11 MichaelE sfan5 are you on? 00:21 MichaelE QUIT 00:21 MichaelE quit 00:21 OldCoder Does anybody know what key displays the skins menu? 00:23 MikeFair_away Hey all - Trying to play minetest with my son 00:23 cg72 OldCoder, on some servers you type /m 00:24 OldCoder It varies yes 00:24 OldCoder MikeFair_away, hi 00:24 MikeFair_away Getting the error "No worldname given or no Game 00:24 MikeFair_away selected 00:24 OldCoder MikeFair_away, you are running locally? 00:24 MikeFair Yes 00:24 MikeFair Windows 7 64-bit 00:24 OldCoder Hang on, I'll restart to follow along 00:25 MikeFair Just downloaded mintest 0.4.10-win64-msvc 00:25 OldCoder One moment 00:25 * MikeFair nods. 00:25 OldCoder You clicked on the Singleplayer tab? 00:26 OldCoder Start over and click that 00:26 MikeFair Yes 00:26 OldCoder Then click New 00:26 MikeFair Then we wanted to do Creative mode and turn off damage (but that doesn't seem to matter) 00:26 OldCoder Clicked new? 00:26 MikeFair Yes 00:26 OldCoder Entered a world name? And then create? 00:27 MikeFair Yes 00:27 OldCoder Then the world name showed up in Select World list? 00:27 MikeFair no 00:27 MikeFair When I click Create; we get the error 00:27 OldCoder Go on 00:27 OldCoder Wait 00:27 MikeFair That's pretty much it 00:27 OldCoder Hold on 00:28 MikeFair Mapgen is v6 00:28 OldCoder Wish to try a June build of mine? For comparison purposes 00:28 MikeFair Game says "minetest" - Minimal development test 00:28 kaeza MikeFair, where did you install Minetest? 00:28 MikeFair I just unzipped it in the download folder, navigated to the executable and executed it 00:28 OldCoder Should work 00:29 OldCoder http://minetest.org/minetest-140610b.zip 00:29 OldCoder That's one of mine; may not work with 0.4.10 but should work locally 00:29 kaeza ah ok 00:29 OldCoder Let's try it for comparison purposes 00:29 OldCoder Download the ZIP 00:29 MikeFair Downloading now 00:30 MikeFair It's significantly bigger... 00:30 OldCoder It's full of mods and cached goodness 00:30 MikeFair cool 00:30 OldCoder I think it's 0.4.8 or .9 and may not work with outside worlds but try it locally 00:31 OldCoder You seem technical; so the obvious sequence failed? Create is where the error occured? Interesting 00:31 kaeza MikeFair, does it show an error message when clicking "Create" or just nothing? 00:31 OldCoder You've got 64-bit Windows? 00:31 OldCoder Yes, you do 00:31 * OldCoder wonders about missing DLLs 00:31 MikeFair Popup that says the error message from above "No World name given or Game not selected" 00:32 kaeza did you select a game from the "games" list when creating the world? 00:32 MikeFair Yes, I'm fairly technical (coder, network engineer, sysadmin, etc -- both linux/windows) 00:32 OldCoder Hm 00:32 MikeFair kaeza: No, there was nothing to select 00:33 kaeza I see 00:33 MikeFair kaeza: So I hit "new"; typed in a World Name; figured I could leave Seed blank and it would make one for me; then hit create 00:33 OldCoder I'm downloading the ZIP too; seven minutes. 00:34 MikeFair Looked for some way to select a "Game" but only see a drop down for the terrain generator (figured whatever was default was best) 00:34 kaeza that's weird, there should be at least a "Minimal Development Test" entry in it 00:34 kaeza (in the game list, I mean) 00:34 MikeFair (My download says 11 minutes left 00:35 MikeFair kaeza: Oh yes, there's an entry populated that says minetest 'Minimal Development Test' == but there's nothing to select (aka for me to do or do wrong) 00:36 * OldCoder looks forward to the test of his 00:38 kaeza MikeFair, ah, I deleted my config to reset settings; apparently, you must click on the "minimal" option to select it (the game does not do so automatically) 00:38 MikeFair Oh - we did turn on Waving Water; Waving Leaves; Waving Plants - because we thought that'd be cool --- I shouldn't cause this kind of issue though 00:39 MikeFair That was it 00:39 kaeza did that work? 00:39 MikeFair So did we want Minetest or "Minimal Development Test"? 00:39 MikeFair Yes I was able to create a game 00:40 bjrohan__ Is the Carts mod the best mod for . . . mine carts that run on rails? 00:40 kaeza "Minetest" is the main game, "Minimal" is for development purposes 00:40 kaeza you'd be better getting a more complete "game" though. hold on a sec 00:42 * PenguinDad goos to sleep 00:42 kaeza MikeFair, this one is a rather complete "game", with mobs (monsters) included: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9033 00:42 MikeFair Ok game world seems to be working 00:43 kaeza or if you want an, ahem, VERY complete game, try Dreambuilder: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9196&start=25 00:45 MikeFair Now we happen to have an Oculus (and soon probably other smart phone based VR gear) which we used in minecraft 00:45 MikeFair It seemed to work ok 00:45 MikeFair Forum posts seemed to suggest that there was no point at supporting it 00:45 MikeFair in minetest 00:46 MikeFair FWIW - we're putting in our vote; but obviously not demanding it; and if I can I plan on seeing if there's anything I can do about it 00:46 MikeFair (vote fot it) 00:46 kaeza I can't say for sure. the issue was (or is?) that it requires an expensive license or some such 00:47 MikeFair Well the headgear was $500 for a DK2 - retail will be ~$300 00:47 MikeFair So there's a real hurdle/cost there 00:47 MikeFair Other solutions like this one: http://mergvr.com/ 00:47 MikeFair err mergevr.com 00:47 kaeza also that: the fact that no dev currently has access to the hardware 00:47 MikeFair use an android phone as the display, so the game is running on the phone 00:48 MikeFair kaeza: That's what the forums were primarily saying 00:48 MikeFair We'd also love to use our Game Controllers -- currently we're using some keymapping software 00:50 kaeza you may have better answers for that on the development channel, #minetest-dev 00:50 MikeFair Can we do full screen? Alt+Enter and F11 didn't work 00:50 MikeFair OH; hehe didn't recognize there was a minetest-dev; suite 00:50 kaeza yes, but you'll need to close the game, edit the conf and restart 00:50 MikeFair err sweet 00:51 OldCoder MikeFair, is the download done? 00:51 MikeFair A minute left still 00:51 MikeFair (I was actually suprised it hadn't completed yet) 00:51 kaeza screenW = x, screenH = y, fullscreen = true, in minetest.conf 00:51 bjrohan__ VanessaE: What mod is used on your creative server for the roller coaster 00:52 MikeFair OldCoder: Done - extracting 00:52 OldCoder kk 00:52 OldCoder Same as before 00:52 VanessaE the roller coaster's built with standard rails, colored wood, a few moreblocks glow glass and homedecor objects, mesecons to start it and keep it moving, and PilzAdam's carts mod is what runs on it. 00:52 OldCoder Enter folder 00:52 VanessaE bjrohan__: ^^^^^^ 00:53 MikeFair OldCoder: Hmm; unzip seems to be going slow... 00:53 MikeFair 300K per sec 00:53 OldCoder kk 00:55 MikeFair So what's DreamBuilder? 00:55 VanessaE it's an everything-and-the-kitchen-sink game 00:55 OldCoder MikeFair, choose the game "fully_loaded" 00:55 kaeza ^ 00:55 VanessaE build whatever you can imagine :) 00:55 OldCoder In my download 00:56 kaeza and their mother too 00:56 VanessaE heh 00:56 MikeFair OldCoder: And that's what we're unpacking right now 00:56 MikeFair cool 00:56 kaeza :P 00:57 MikeFair any docs so we can know about everything we can do? 00:57 OldCoder Regrettably, it's piecemeal. Ask players here. 00:57 OldCoder I don't play myself, got involved 2 years ago, run 20 worlds now 00:57 OldCoder We just started a really really nice one you should visit 00:57 MikeFair Sounds more like me - I really don't like "playing" per se 00:58 OldCoder <- He is an Old Coder 00:58 MikeFair There are some things I'm looking forward too though 00:58 OldCoder Bring your kid to visit SilverCrab at minetest.org port 30019 and looking forward to what? 00:58 MikeFair For instance, if you guys ever saw OpenCobalt or OpenWonderland (http://www.openwonderland.org) 00:58 OldCoder Sounds interesting 00:59 MikeFair One of things they have are portals to other worlds; the doorways in OpenCobalt were actually rendering the world/window of the remote world (aka another game on anohter server) 00:59 OldCoder Yes 00:59 OldCoder There is an open 2nd life 00:59 OldCoder that does that 01:00 bjrohan__ VanessaE: Thank you! 01:00 MikeFair oh right, I never used SL 01:00 MikeFair but yeah; they've got it too 01:00 OldCoder I tried to build the client 01:00 OldCoder Nightmare 01:00 OldCoder Serious, spent days on it; forget it 01:00 MikeFair Anyway, I thought it'd be a cool way for people to share their creations by linking to a junction world 01:01 OldCoder Might try the FOSS one. yes. 01:01 OldCoder If you can agree 01:01 OldCoder on the protocol 01:01 MikeFair Kind of like a mall or apartment building 01:01 OldCoder Yep 01:01 OldCoder Mine seems to be working\ 01:01 OldCoder Tell me what it does for you 01:02 MikeFair When you give people your "address"; that permissions them to enter the door 01:02 MikeFair OldCoder: Will do 01:02 MikeFair So you build a portal to the nexus world; it's just a big place with lots and lots of doorways and portals 01:03 MikeFair and people travelling to and fro 01:03 MikeFair or hanging out waiting for people to invite them check out their latest creations 01:03 MikeFair anyway; that's one thing 01:04 MikeFair the other is to use a projector to make a large video wall; then kind my daughter a "wand" 01:04 MikeFair and make it so she can "cast spells" and whatnot in the virtual world "behind the wall" 01:05 OldCoder For a non-gamer you have thought about this 01:05 MikeFair or through the wall as the case may be 01:05 MikeFair Then lastly; and this one is more me; is making a progammable workflow 01:06 MikeFair So binding in-game blocks to out-of-game URLS/objects 01:12 MikeFair OldCoder: Ok; done! 01:12 MikeFair launching game 01:12 MikeFair going for "Fully Loaded" 01:13 MikeFair OldCoder: THere were some errors 01:14 OldCoder What? 01:15 MikeFair OldCoder: ok, let me see if I can find them 01:15 MikeFair some modules lacking dependencies 01:16 OldCoder Odd! 01:16 OldCoder Should be none 01:16 OldCoder Try the middle _game 01:16 MikeFair bamboo, moretrees, and vines need plants_lib; farming_plus needs farming; 01:18 MikeFair can we fly? 01:19 kaeza sure, do /grant fly 01:19 kaeza then use... uhh... 'K' was it? to toggle fly mode 01:19 MikeFair Hmm, in single palyer what's my name 01:19 kaeza "singleplayer" (no space) 01:20 OldCoder So, it's working? 01:20 MikeFair OldCoder: Oh yeah - sorry 01:20 MikeFair OldCoder: I'm still using "Fully Loaded" 01:20 OldCoder Glad to hear it! 01:20 OldCoder You might have sound 01:20 MikeFair OldCoder: It's seems to be working great 01:20 OldCoder Chirping birds etc. 01:20 MikeFair We have sound (no music) 01:20 OldCoder I'll update this for 0.4.10 01:20 MikeFair oh no birds yet 01:21 MikeFair night is falling :) 01:21 OldCoder You can set time using /time 6000 for day or /time 0 for midnight 01:21 MikeFair so far the only things we hear are our own noises 01:21 MikeFair walking/building/gathering 01:21 OldCoder We'll see. This was a quick test I did in June. 01:21 OldCoder Worked pretty well. 01:22 OldCoder Cross-built from Linux! 01:22 MikeFair Oh cool! I always hold my breath on cross-builds 01:23 MikeFair the /time worked great 01:23 MikeFair hold on got something 01:23 MikeFair trying to store i statically; but block already contains 49 objects 01:23 MikeFair forcing delete 01:23 OldCoder It took a while to figure out 01:23 OldCoder So database problem of some type 01:24 MikeFair got a few of these when he found a chest 01:24 OldCoder Ah 01:25 OldCoder Well, pleased to hear it. There is a public servers list. I run New York City, the dead city of Pripyat, SilverCrab (huge world), and many others. Most have been down but are coming back. 01:27 MikeFair OldCoder: Well in case you haven't already been told; minetest has come up as potentially a new minecraft now that MS bought Minecraft 01:28 MikeFair could not load image technic_akalin_dust 01:28 MikeFair technic_alatro_dust 01:29 MikeFair Don't know if you really want to know 01:29 OldCoder MikeFair, quite interested in all of this 01:30 OldCoder I'd like to PM with you again if you don't come to my channel 01:30 OldCoder Will you ping me sometime? 01:30 MikeFair Please 01:30 MikeFair feel free 01:30 OldCoder You stop by IRC? 01:30 MikeFair Fairly regularly; I typically hit the project channels 01:30 MikeFair or the language channels 01:30 OldCoder I *would* like to chat with you 01:30 MikeFair depdning on what problems I'm trying to solve 01:31 OldCoder I have more, um, older people to talk to these days 01:31 OldCoder But a really old person 01:31 OldCoder is still not common 01:31 OldCoder :P 01:34 MikeFair Hmm, the world seems to be deconstructing itself 01:34 MikeFair and several glitches -- not sure if that's normal 01:35 OldCoder Neither am I 01:35 OldCoder Usually 01:35 OldCoder worlds are not supposed to dissolve :-) 01:35 MikeFair hmm ok it came back 01:35 OldCoder Ah! 01:35 OldCoder No, that is vision 01:35 OldCoder You can adjust it 01:35 OldCoder Blocks are invisible after a distance 01:35 OldCoder to speed things up 01:36 OldCoder There is a .conf file setting to set min and max viewing range 01:36 OldCoder Plus you can press F3 to turn fog off and on 01:36 OldCoder F1 and F2 and F5 toggle other things 01:36 OldCoder F12 makes a screenshot 01:36 MikeFair It was getting a lot of those "trying to store id=XXX statically; but block (x, y, z) already contains 49 objects. forcing delete. 01:36 Brains MikeFair: Fancy meeting you here... (#lalugs, #vpscoop) 01:36 MikeFair Brains: hey there! :) 01:37 MikeFair how's out east? 01:37 * Brains fired up minetest a little while back for use with his son... 01:37 MikeFair What a coincidence; now we just need cbsmith and his son eh? 01:38 * Brains thought he was a dead man earlier... While the family was out, he managed to bungle things enough that the server would crash on start up. Not a good thing when you've got a couple of weeks of a 7yr old's work there. 01:38 MikeFair OldCoder: Is there anything that should be "jumping sand" blocks 01:39 MikeFair Brains: Yeah that would be umm, bad. ;) 01:39 Brains It was an attempt to migrate to redis as the db backend. (If you are just setting things up, might as well start with leveldb instead of sqlite. Seems to perform better.) 01:40 MikeFair Ack, alright, being called for dinner 01:40 MikeFair You mean this things got options 01:40 MikeFair : ) 01:40 * Brains checks on his uranium centrifuges... 01:41 Brains For completely peaceful purposes, of course. 01:41 MikeFair One of the experiments I'm quite keen to test out is if these worlds can be stored in something like GnuNet or FreeNet 01:41 * MikeFair replaced his with a Thorium LFTR a while ago. I get fewer complaints from the neighbors now. 01:42 MikeFair Then use each minetest node as part of the P2P net 01:42 * Brains set up his world with the dreambuilder game... Technic and pipeworks and homedecor and all that so that there is something for everything/one. 01:42 MikeFair That's sounds cool; I'm grateful that OldCoder seems to have gotten me set up on a similar rig 01:43 MikeFair ok; dinner is starting 01:43 MikeFair_away bbl 01:43 Brains later 01:47 jojoa1997 Ello 02:13 OldCoder VanessaE, awake? 02:21 bjrohan__ In the cart mod, is there a way to make it move while you are in it, like Minecraft leaning? 02:23 NakedFury OldCoder, do you have files to download the game like before? 02:43 OldCoder NakedFury, which game or world do you mean? 02:43 NakedFury yours 02:43 OldCoder Um 02:43 OldCoder I have 20 02:43 OldCoder Can you be more specific? 02:44 OldCoder Come see SilverCrab BTW 02:44 NakedFury my last minetest downloaded from you was minetest-121213 02:44 OldCoder Ah!! 02:44 OldCoder I have one from June 02:44 OldCoder Link is above 02:44 OldCoder I will rebuild a newer one 02:45 OldCoder http://minetest.org/minetest-140610b.zip 02:45 NakedFury had just found it 02:45 OldCoder NakedFury, if you mean Windows, try that one 02:45 OldCoder It may not connect to 0.4.10 servers 02:46 NakedFury downloading now 02:53 Cylus Fancy seeing you here, pehjota! I didn't know you were a Minetester. 03:13 pehjota Cylus: Hey! Yeah, I've played Minetest since the 0.3.x days, and I'm one of the admins of the LibrePlanet Gaming Collective's Minetest server. 03:17 Cylus pehjota: And I thought I was old coming from the 0.4.3 days. Is that server on the public server list? 03:19 Zeno` Is donat-b here using a different nick? 03:21 pehjota Cylus: No, it's not – at least for now I guess. has information about the server. 03:25 NakedFury that map looks nice 03:25 Cylus Yeah, it does. 03:25 NakedFury some areas are just cut off, errors in map gen I guess right? 03:25 Cylus I might pop in at some point to see what some of those things are. 03:26 Cylus NakedFury: I'm guessing the lines are from mapgen changes. 03:27 pehjota Those are areas players haven't yet explored (and thus which haven't yet been generated). 03:27 NakedFury I meant places with square deserts in the middle of green areas 03:27 pehjota That map is automatically generated with the C++ mapper, and the older Python mapper had pretty much the same output. 03:28 pehjota Ah, yeah, I assume those are from different versions of the mapgen. 03:28 Cylus Does anyone know if either of these mappers can handle custom games? 03:29 Cylus I'd love to map my world, but I don't think I'll have the same node names as I'm not using minetest_game. 03:30 pehjota Yeah, you'll just have to edit the mapper's colors.txt file. 03:31 pehjota And I highly recommend using the C++ mapper; it's /much/ faster. 03:31 Cylus Okay, sweet. That sounds easy. 03:32 Cylus The C++ mapper wouldn't compile for me several months ago, but I imagine it now either compiles better or has better compilation instructions, as it seems to be the recommended version now. 03:33 pehjota Hmm, it compiled fine for me in July 2013. 03:34 paramat minetestmapper-numpy is an excellent mapper, does cross sections, side views etc. but needs python-numpy installing 03:34 paramat *installed 03:35 pehjota Oh, interesting. Hadn't heard of that one before. 03:35 paramat link coming 03:36 paramat https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=8730 03:36 paramat dyson sphere http://i.imgur.com/PDBMr1P.png 03:38 paramat it's pretty fast too 03:38 pehjota Yup, found the forum thread. Cool! 03:54 rickmcfarley wow, that .png looks really cool 04:01 paramat thats my 'flexrealm' lua mapgen in dyson sphere mode 04:03 rickmcfarley once the 2nd shifters leave, I want to give it a try 05:00 Fritigern_AFK I suppose it is not possible to switch between creative and survival from withn the game, is it? 05:01 Cylus Fritigern_AFK: No, it it is not. The world must be rebooted for that. 05:02 Fritigern_AFK Thought so. Oh well, maybe one day :-) 05:03 Cylus Probably one day. The only real issue I can see in implementing it would be the redefinition of the hand's digging capabilities mid-game. The rest is totally codable in Lua today. 05:33 OldCoder If anybody interested in RedCrab is awake, ping me 05:38 Zeno` Hi OldCoder 05:38 OldCoder Zeno`, hello` 05:39 Zeno` VanessaE, I kind of just brought MTZ to a standstill 05:39 Zeno` a bucket of water on 7000 nodes of lava 05:39 Zeno` oh well 05:39 VanessaE eeeep 05:40 VanessaE you can lighten that load some: 05:40 Zeno` the cave looks like Pompei 05:40 Zeno` I am world editing lava sources out lol 05:40 VanessaE in default, um.. I'll find the location in a moment... you can turn the lavacooling ABMs down a bit 05:40 Zeno` hmm, I'll look at that later 05:40 Zeno` for the moment things have settled down. The problem has happened twice now though 05:41 VanessaE minetest_game/mods/default/functions.lua line 147 05:41 Zeno` it's when there is a cave >200 nodes deep and heaps of lava 05:41 VanessaE and 157 05:41 VanessaE turn the chance to about 15 and interval to around 5 05:41 Zeno` so caverealms carves out a huge section and someone (usually me :/) pours water on the lava lol 05:41 VanessaE I think those are the values I use in dreambuilder 05:41 Zeno` I'll look there 05:42 Zeno` I think there was talk of re-writing this lava/water falling in C++ but I can't recall 05:42 Zeno` server CPU is back to normal 05:42 * Zeno` calms down 05:42 VanessaE the lavacooling code is fine in Lua, but the reflow code in C++ is...well... not good. 05:42 VanessaE adjusting the ABM settings will help 05:43 Zeno` yeah got the file open now 05:45 Zeno` The forest I planted is almost covered with pumice 05:46 Zeno` I quite like it 06:15 CWz i think either the snow mod or the moretrees mod is making my singleplayer world unresponsive on mapgen. no big deal though 06:26 VanessaE CWz: update your plantlife modpack 06:26 VanessaE I fixed plants_lib so that it should never lag a map again 06:26 VanessaE (or at least, no more lag than you get from the core mapgen anyway) 06:26 VanessaE Zeno` can confirm that :) 06:27 VanessaE you can even turn off the "spawn only saplings" mode in moretrees - even spawning whole trees at generate time is no longer laggy, so it would seem 06:28 paramat CWz, also, set snow mod as a dependancy of moretrees, so it generates first, that way around is faster mapgen 06:28 Zeno` I don't think it will matter with the new plants_lib changes 06:28 VanessaE paramat: with current plants_lib, that doesn't much matter anymore. 06:28 VanessaE you should give it a try 06:28 paramat and use snow mod version 0.3.1, it's much faster 06:29 VanessaE plants_lib doesn't read mapblocks in on_generated anymore 06:29 VanessaE it reads them during a globalstep 06:29 VanessaE (and only if they haven't already been read) 06:30 VanessaE so whatever is there, is there, and that's what it works with. 06:31 paramat hm okay 06:35 paramat nore, sfan5, my pull request for boats mod https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/328 06:35 * paramat returns to watching mecha anime 06:39 nore sfan5: should I merge the pull for new ore blocks? 06:46 VanessaE paramat: forget the anime and go try out current plantlife :) 06:50 MinetestBot 02[Git] 04kilbith -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Add new ore blocks textures 13ba8cbbc http://git.io/OK8zqA (152014-10-05T08:49:55+02:00) 06:51 * paramat continues to watch anime 06:53 VanessaE :P 07:32 sfan5 nore: yes 07:32 sfan5 nore: nvm, was already merged 07:32 nore yep, since I saw right after that that you agreed too 07:32 nore (in the comments) 07:38 Fritigern_AFK VanessaE: What could be the reason why a new world won't generate when moretrees is added? 07:39 Fritigern_AFK Hold up, i think i may have found the reason 07:43 Fritigern_AFK Bah,. stupid dependencies.... So, i am making my own modpacks now, sort of. It's so easy.... 07:44 Fritigern_AFK I basically use it for grouping mods together that would be best off being kept together. Like moretrees and plants_lib 08:08 hisforever Hi everybody Whats up? 08:09 hisforever On Signs can you make the font biger? 08:30 Krock http://i.imgur.com/c9F5sLz.png 08:47 Calinou trying this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10055 09:05 Megaf !up Linux 09:05 MinetestBot Megaf: Invalid Address 09:05 Megaf !server Megaf 09:05 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 310ms 09:05 Megaf !server Linux 09:05 MinetestBot Megaf: LinuxGaming.us | LinuxGaming.us | Clients: 3/20, 1/5 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 168ms 09:09 Megaf blaise: You there? 09:10 Megaf weird, I can't connect to LinuxGaming 09:11 PenguinDad !up LinuxGaming.us 09:11 MinetestBot LinuxGaming.us:30000 seems to be down 09:11 PenguinDad :( 09:16 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 09:16 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (752ms) 09:19 Megaf !up LinuxGaming.us 09:19 MinetestBot LinuxGaming.us:30000 is up (137ms) 09:20 Megaf ^ PenguinDad 09:21 ElectronLibre Good [night|morning|afternoon|evening|other?] everyone. 09:21 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Kd_agkt3QOC_.jpg 09:22 ElectronLibre A worm hole? O_o 09:22 PenguinDad Good parse(get_timeofday("LOCAL")) ElectronLibre! 09:23 ElectronLibre It's mg mod I guess Calinou. 09:24 ElectronLibre Thank you PenguinDad ^^. It's lua, isn't it? 09:25 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: Lua with fake functions 09:26 PenguinDad s/fake/pseudo/ 09:34 Fritigern_AFK [01:09:15] [[ hisforever ]] On Signs can you make the font biger? 09:35 Fritigern_AFK I would like to know that too. It's hard to read unless you get really close to the signs 09:35 PenguinDad Fritigern_AFK: you're afk but still able to speak :D 09:36 Fritigern There, better? 09:36 Fritigern Now, about the signs 09:37 PenguinDad Fritigern: If you are talking about signs_lib signs it should be possible but I'm not sure how 09:37 ElectronLibre Make the font bigger? Possible with 3D signs by using bigger textures for the letters/numbers, but probably impossible by infotext... 09:43 Fritigern PenguinDad: morefences/config.lua, line2 : morefences.creative_inv = 1 09:43 Fritigern Nobody would guess that this means that you indend to HIDE the fences with that line 09:54 Krock Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/PAHg0je.jpg 09:55 Calinou ElectronLibre, it's amgmt 09:55 * ElectronLibre write : Never try this mod if I don't want to destroy my map. 09:55 PenguinDad a meme generator minetest edition :D 09:56 Krock yappy mapgen ftw! 09:58 ElectronLibre I've got to go, bye. 10:04 PenguinDad Fritigern: is this ok? https://github.com/PenguinDad/morefences/commit/630ed81a5d47a7fadff4e2e02e407e0b2e99552a 10:05 Fritigern That looks great, adn is a lot less confusing 10:42 Fritigern Alrighty. I have started work on a game, intended to feel familiar to MC users. I am trying to give it a similar feel as MC 1.2.5. 10:44 Fritigern I don't feel that i am ready to post this in the foryum yet,. but whoever wants to give the game a whirl, you can find the repo at https://github.com/Fritigern/minetestcraft 11:32 Krock Fritigern, you can use the amend function for commits like "Removed README.md which should have happened in the previous commit." 11:32 Fritigern [04:25:06] troller [~p@80.240.216.69] has quit IRC: Quit: Leaving <= Poor troller, i guess we trolled him by being quiet :-) 11:33 Fritigern Krock: It shouldn't happen too often. And this method works too. BTW, i use mostly gitk and git gui because i am a git n00b 11:34 Krock Fritigern, I use tortoiseGit and it's actually easy if you know the basics 11:34 Krock cuz those noobs dropped the support for win XP 11:35 Fritigern I keep being told that it's easy once you know the basics, but i have digffficulty learning git stuffs. Trust me, i have been trying hard 11:35 Fritigern *difficulty 11:35 Fritigern And my fingers are dyslexic. Not me, only my fingers. 11:37 Krock lol 11:37 Fritigern It's the only explanation. Because i know exactly how stuff is supposed to be spelled, but my fingers hve other plans 11:37 Fritigern *have 11:37 Fritigern See? 11:44 Fritigern Krock: Have you tried the game yet? 11:44 Krock Fritigern, not yet 11:45 Fritigern Okay, i was wondering because you obviously have looked at my repo :-) 11:50 Fritigern Hi john_minetest 11:50 Fritigern Care to test a new game pack? 11:51 Fritigern I'm not yet ready to post this in the forum. but if you want to give the game a whirl, you can find the repo at https://github.com/Fritigern/minetestcraft 11:51 reactor Mщrning. 11:51 Fritigern Gut moaning, reactor 11:51 reactor Sometimes. The other times it's mourning. 11:52 reactor Either that or mowing. 11:52 Fritigern My condolences 11:52 Fritigern meowing? 11:52 PenguinDad Fritigern: you should rather use signs_lib instead of PilzAdam's signs mode 11:52 reactor Sometimes. 11:52 PenguinDad mooing! 11:52 Fritigern PenguinDad: Why? 11:53 PenguinDad Fritigern: because it is more stable and supports colors 11:54 Fritigern PenguinDad: The font is also quite unreadable 11:55 reactor Speaking of colours. 11:55 reactor Please mane escape! 11:55 reactor make* 11:55 * Fritigern cuts a door in the wall "There's your escape!" 11:55 reactor Sometimes I do really mean the "#" or whatever is used for colours I don't remember. 11:56 PenguinDad "make: *** No rule to make target 'escape'. Schluss." :( 11:56 Fritigern Ah, you mean an escape character! That would be welcome 11:57 * reactor looks at the door Fritigern has just cut. 11:57 reactor tsk-tsk. 11:57 * reactor goes "ДВЕРЬ МНЕ ЗАПИЛИ!" 11:57 * Fritigern grabs some drywall and begins to cover the door. 11:58 * reactor slaps Fritigern with a pile of bricks. "No kludging here." 11:59 * Fritigern starts building a brick wall around the door 12:02 Fritigern I don't know what to do about versioning. Perhaps i will include a changelog or so. Then again. keeping a changelog is a pain... 12:05 reactor Why keep changelog if you can comment every commit? 12:06 reactor Though everntually you'll have to summarise it. 12:09 * Jordach meows at asie 12:21 * john_minetest gives Jordach a <'((((-< 12:21 * Jordach bats it away 12:22 sfan5 christmas server? 12:22 * ElectronLibre gives sfan5 the <'(((-< 12:22 * sfan5 noms it 12:23 ElectronLibre (Ho, It reminds me it's time to prepare my Halloween greating card.) 12:26 sfan5 Jordach: someone should do this again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzJlOKVi4D4 12:38 Johngreat hey 12:38 ElectronLibre Hello Johngreat. 12:38 Johngreat hello 12:39 Johngreat im gonna upload a video soon 12:41 ElectronLibre Great. About what? A tutorial? 12:42 Johngreat woops 12:42 Johngreat i logged off accidently 12:42 PenguinDad About MLG Minetest :> 13:18 Jordach sfan5, LogoSkyblock? :D 13:46 sfan5 Jordach: : 13:46 sfan5 Jordach: :D 14:13 * ElectronLibre has finally found the lua socket package on Debian. It was very difficult.. 14:18 * PenguinDad would like to see this merged https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1277 14:21 cities Hi 14:22 * ElectronLibre thinks that will never be merged https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1591 14:23 ElectronLibre Hello cities. 14:23 cities Hey there 14:28 rubenwardy If you want something merged, you have to pester the devs to review it on #minetest-dev 14:28 ElectronLibre I've still done it :°... 14:28 ElectronLibre What about you PenguinDad? 14:42 _Esteban good morning guys 14:55 MinetestBot 02[Git] 04BlockMen -> 03minetest/minetest: Add [colorize modifier 1328438bb http://git.io/Z9-Xjg (152014-10-05T16:49:52+02:00) 14:58 rubenwardy Ha, colorize 14:59 rubenwardy As in MinetestBot is using ctrl-k 14:59 rubenwardy Nevermind 15:00 BlockMen rubenwardy, better :P 15:00 rubenwardy :P 15:02 _Esteban what does this "[colorize modifier" do? :P 15:02 ElectronLibre Colorize? For what? 15:02 rubenwardy It changes the color of a texture 15:02 jin_xi to make many different colored variations of a base texture 15:02 rubenwardy Like tints 15:03 _Esteban so this would enable easier coloring of textures for mods that add colored versions of blocks? 15:03 jin_xi stuff like this is one example (not the typical application) http://i.imgur.com/ocAyR1x.png 15:05 BlockMen more like for stained wood, etc 15:05 BlockMen without needing 100 differen textures for that 15:05 _Esteban awesome! :D 15:06 Zeno` err, you spelt colour wrong 15:06 rubenwardy lol 15:06 Zeno` heheh 15:06 rubenwardy Rule Britannia! 15:06 BlockMen AE is standart 15:06 Brains And/or the remnants of it. 15:08 RealBadAngel Jordach, here? 15:09 Jordach yus 15:09 rubenwardy Because they are bigger, not because it is a better version. Which I am not saying either way. Anyone can sea that the English sucks - mainly because words sound the same with different spellings. 15:09 RealBadAngel Jordach, i need a few very basic objects, like stairs and full node 15:09 Zeno` I sea what ewe did there, rubenwardy! 15:09 BlockMen IMO some words sound nice in BE some in AE 15:10 rubenwardy ~Ha 15:10 rubenwardy Species 15:10 RealBadAngel im doing now tests whats faster nodeboxes or meshes 15:10 Jordach it's not hard to use the blender 15:11 rubenwardy Don't you dare make NBE obsolete, RealBadAngel. 15:11 RealBadAngel youre good at it 15:11 RealBadAngel rubenwardy, atm r2d2 model is as fast as pipe from pipeworks 15:12 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/o1gPXT7.png 15:12 rubenwardy Surely that's just the algorithm? You could improve the nodebox maker to turn it into a mesh. 15:12 rubenwardy UV mapping in blender is difficult. 15:12 RealBadAngel but this model from Jordach is faster than single tube 15:12 Jordach RealBadAngel, proving my point meshes are faster than niodes 15:14 RealBadAngel it looks so 15:14 RealBadAngel but i really need a single cube 15:29 rubenwardy https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1YAURNIxIGQTrSH_OEV7-Rxz8ZdOp2_HsBvhEipfHo0E/viewform 15:29 rubenwardy Welcome to Minetest Academy. A Minetest mod designed by educators with a primary goal to improve education through engaging students in a virtual learning environment. I want to build ONE MAP (to start) with a trademark learning environment designed by teachers and students named "Minetest Academy". I need creative programmers, teachers, artists, and students to create a world that is conducive to collaboration, social learning, and foste 15:29 rubenwardy ring a place designed for creativity. We will need to start a server to collaborate. My first goal is to create an online manual-style website similar to the configurations found in this forum (Where are all of you!?! Sign-Up!) 15:43 kahrl "Jordach, i need a few very basic objects, like stairs and full node" <-- proof that meshes are a lot harder to make than nodeboxes 15:44 VanessaE and which is why I said you can not EVER drop support for nodeboxes in the modding API 15:44 VanessaE convert them into meshes internally if you want 15:44 VanessaE but don't ever drop modding API support for them or you will rbeak so much shit it's not even funny 15:45 VanessaE break* 15:47 Nerotic Sorry, weird crashy thingy. 15:51 pitriss VanessaE: Hi, I probably found bug in pipeworks. in flowing_logic.lua around line 81.. you should check value of facedir.. When you apply screwdriver to spigot, then it will crash server when facedir is higher than 3 15:59 PNDyman is there a way to run minetest-server 0.4.10 on debian wheezy? 16:00 kilbith sure : $ minetest-server 16:01 kilbith ah sorry, still 0.3.x on wheezy 16:02 ElectronLibre Download the sources, compile them with de dependencies and run minetestserver in ./bin/ 16:02 PNDyman ok thanks 16:03 ElectronLibre You can found all the answers to your questions at http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest 16:06 Krock *find 16:06 ElectronLibre *find sorry. 16:07 * ElectronLibre must read again what he has written 7 time before send it. 16:34 ILoveGurochan Hi guys! 16:34 ILoveGurochan can anyone suggest a mod like craft-guide but that works with 4.10 please? 16:35 Calinou ILoveGurochan, 0.4.10* :P 16:35 ILoveGurochan Too much zeros :( 16:35 Krock ILoveGurochan, unified_inventory 16:35 Krock or inventory++ 16:35 Jordach two taps of a membrane key isn't hard to do 16:36 ILoveGurochan Thanks krock 16:36 Krock np 16:36 ILoveGurochan gonna put lulzpack on date 16:36 Calinou Jordach, what if they have a mechanical keyboard with blue switches? 8) 16:37 Jordach then they're rich assholes who need to donate to OSS projects and not on luxuries :3 16:37 Calinou mechanical has its uses (even though it's a bit overrated: remember it's heavy and noisy) 16:39 ILoveGurochan Maybe i should've write just "last version of minetest" 16:39 Jordach latest developer or stabl;e 16:40 ILoveGurochan Anyway it works,thanks :) 16:42 sfan5 PNDyman: compile from source to get the latest 16:45 rubenwardy "the version of Minetest which was las 16:45 rubenwardy damn] 16:46 rubenwardy "the version of Minetest for which there is a current Windows download on the downloads page of the minetest.net internet webpage." 16:57 kaeza greetings 16:57 Calinou hi 17:18 Jordach VanessaE, tinfoil hat ti,e 17:18 Calinou you need More Ores to craft tinfoil hats 17:18 Calinou else you can only have copperfoil hats, goldfoil hats, Mesefoil hats… 17:19 cg72 is mese a metal or metaliod 17:19 cg72 ?????????/ 17:20 Calinou no idea 17:20 Calinou in Carbone, it makes wooden sound 17:22 Krock mese is like cheese, 40 millio years ago 17:22 Krock *million 17:32 DusXMT I'd imagine it would be glass-like, since it can be broken into crystals 17:36 PNDyman I get database errors unless I run minetestserver as root, is this expected? 17:45 PenguinDad PNDyman: this shouldn't happen 17:46 PNDyman Oh my fault, I built it as root and didn't fix permissions 17:57 DusXMT PNDyman: But if you _run_ it as root (which you shouldn't do, if someone manages to crack the server software, you give the attacker 100% control over your computer), you should have full access to anything so badly set-up permissions shouldn't be a problem... 18:11 PenguinDad TheCephalopod evolved into john_minetest! 18:20 * Calinou is making new 3D renders for wiki 18:34 Johngreat hey 18:34 Johngreat hi 18:35 Johngreat minetest 18:35 Calinou_ hi Johngreat 18:36 Johngreat Have u been to Shadowzone's server before? 18:36 Johngreat i know nore has 18:37 Johngreat how do u change ur nickname? 18:40 Johngreat *sigh* 18:41 Krock ^imposs 18:41 Calinou the new, compressed block renders are in 18:41 Calinou on wiki 18:41 kaeza_ I wonder if schools/parents still teach the meaning of "patience" 18:42 Calinou BlockMen has uploaded ~75 KB renders, mine are 25 KB 18:42 Calinou same size (150²) 18:43 Krock !wiki compressed block render 18:43 MinetestBot No such page. 18:44 PenguinDad !wiki User:Krock 18:44 MinetestBot No such page. 18:44 PenguinDad :( 18:45 Krock !wiki Krock 18:45 MinetestBot No such page. 18:45 kaeza_ !wiki User:Krock 18:45 MinetestBot No such page. 18:45 Megaf_ !wikie Megaf 18:45 Megaf_ !wiki Megaf 18:45 MinetestBot No such page. 18:45 Krock kaeza, PenguinDad did the same aminute ago :P 19:28 sfan5 kaeza_: y are u never online in tox? 19:28 kaeza_ sfan5:changed client to qTox. new id in signature 19:29 sfan5 you can keep your id 19:29 sfan5 anyway 19:29 sfan5 send me a friend request 19:29 kaeza_ I didn't? 19:29 sfan5 maybe you did 19:29 kaeza_ I'll do so again when I'm back home 19:29 sfan5 there was this request I accepted but accidentally removed again 19:31 Megaf_ I wonder if my server as is today will run with only 256 MB of ram 19:32 * Megaf_ remebers that he is not online in tox eihter 19:32 Krock tux. 19:32 Megaf_ Fritigern: Do you have tox now? 19:32 Tux[Qyou] krock. 19:33 Krock qyou 19:33 Krock . 19:33 Tux[Qyou] krock the krock. 19:33 Calinou for Minetesting you'd be better off using Mumble 19:33 shadowzone What it tux? 19:34 blaise ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ 19:34 sfan5 (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡blaise 19:34 shadowzone Should I be running? 19:35 blaise sfan5: say what 19:35 blaise ? 19:35 sfan5 blaise: what??? 19:35 * blaise feeds sfan5 some meow mix 19:35 * sfan5 meows a mix of meow 19:36 blaise I need Chicken! 19:36 blaise I need Liver! 19:36 blaise meow mix meow mix please deliver? 19:36 * Krock meows sfan5 mix 19:36 * blaise shakes the meow mix box for sfan5 19:37 * sfan5 meows at blaise 19:37 * blaise leaves sfan5 a bowl of meow mix 19:37 * Krock puts blaise and sfan5 into the meow mix 19:37 * blaise teleports to 0, 0, 0 19:38 Krock 0,0 19:38 Krock ___ 19:38 Krock eww LazyJ, you destroyed my smile 19:38 Megaf_ LazyJ: Hi there 19:38 LazyJ Megaf_ ?? 19:39 Megaf_ shadowzone: LazyJ john_minetest: I will do some tests with my server later on, will move it to a VPS in london 19:39 shadowzone Hi oOChainLynxOo, long time no see. 19:39 shadowzone Megaf_, okay got it. 19:39 oOChainLynxOo Definitely 19:39 Megaf_ I hope that a Xeon VPS would be faster than my ARM 19:39 * Krock meows at o0(ha!nLynx0o 19:39 * blaise wiggles Megaf_'s arm 19:39 shadowzone And if not you should try duckdns. 19:40 * oOChainLynxOo shakes cat food bag 19:40 * shadowzone meows 19:40 * oOChainLynxOo watches 473,394,389,234 cats fly out of nowhere 19:40 Krock How can you put a giraffe into a fridge? 19:40 shadowzone XD 19:40 NakedFury chopped up? 19:40 shadowzone Uh.... 19:41 oOChainLynxOo Open the fridge, put the giraffe in and close the door 19:41 Krock +1 ^ 19:41 Megaf_ oOChainLynxOo: that's it 19:41 oOChainLynxOo Lol 19:41 Krock And how can you put an elephant into a fridge= 19:41 ElectronLibre And how can you put a bear? 19:41 shadowzone Really really fast. 19:41 Krock *? 19:41 shadowzone And how can you put a ship in a fridge? 19:42 Calinou the elephant in the room 19:42 PenguinDad Use lzma on the elephant :P 19:42 oOChainLynxOo Open the fridge, take the giraffe out, put the elephant and close the door 19:42 Krock Open the fridge, take out the giraffe and put the elephant in. close the fridge 19:42 Krock damn those ninjas 19:42 oOChainLynxOo Ninja'd 19:42 oOChainLynxOo :3 19:42 ElectronLibre Compress the elephant to elephant.zip, open the fridge, take the girafe && cp elephant.zip ./fridge 19:42 oOChainLynxOo LOL 19:42 Krock PenguinDad, LZMA2 19:43 Megaf_ +1 > ElectronLibre 19:43 Krock -1 ElectronLibre, not cross-platform 19:43 ElectronLibre tar? 19:44 oOChainLynxOo XD 19:44 Krock "./fridge" 19:44 shadowzone +1 ElectronLibre 19:44 Krock +1 > ElectronLibre 19:44 shadowzone running it like ./minetest 19:44 PenguinDad Krock: lzma2 is only a container format 19:44 Krock means +1 is better than ElectronLibre 19:44 Krock means, ElectronLibre is worse than +1 19:44 ElectronLibre Krock, that's the truth xD.. 19:44 Krock k 19:45 cg72 selah?? why hun? 19:45 Krock PenguinDad, okkk 19:45 PenguinDad ElectronLibre $(add_one) 19:45 PenguinDad :D 19:45 shadowzone Look up. 19:45 shadowzone We're all being nuts. 19:45 shadowzone And I might get hyper. 19:45 oOChainLynxOo Lol 19:45 oOChainLynxOo And I had 3 cups of coffee last night and I'm still feeling it 19:46 Krock oOChainLynxOo, still full power or totally tired? 19:46 shadowzone I just had a pepsi. 19:46 oOChainLynxOo Full power dewd 19:46 Krock I just had some cookies. 19:46 jin_xi fanta shokata ftw 19:47 PenguinDad I can have three cups of coffee and I won't notice a difference lol 19:47 Krock PenguinDad, no wonder if a third is milk and sugar 19:49 oOChainLynxOo Lol 19:49 PenguinDad eee​w coffee with sugar and milk 19:49 * sfan5 meows at oOChainLynxOo 19:49 * oOChainLynxOo shakes cat food bag 19:50 OldCoder How do I give somebody 5 pieces of white wool? 19:51 ElectronLibre ./give somebody wool:white 5 19:51 ElectronLibre (Without the . ) 19:51 OldCoder Thank you! 19:51 oOChainLynxOo :D 19:52 PenguinDad /give somebody wool:white 5 19:52 OldCoder Yep 19:52 PenguinDad ^ ElectronLibre 19:52 OldCoder Thank you! 19:52 OldCoder She is pleased 19:52 OldCoder This seems to be a girl who wishes blankets for a bed 19:54 OldCoder How do I give 5 diamond showcase of type diamonds:garden_block? 19:54 OldCoder /give bacon diamonds:garden_block:5 doesn't work 19:54 shadowzone without the : between garden_block and 5. 19:55 OldCoder Got it worked thanks 19:55 shadowzone Your welcome. 20:01 Megaf_ "[20:44:17] +1 > ElectronLibre" 20:01 Megaf_ lmao 20:02 Megaf_ ElectronLibre: are you better than +1? 20:02 LazyJ Megaf_ VPS in London? 20:02 Megaf_ yep, a system that is not real located in that city witl those tall buses wider than USB 20:02 Megaf_ lol 20:02 OldCoder Sokomine, if you see this later, explain how to unprotect a house, please 20:03 RumiaGloop thank muchfords for the shamrock halp 20:03 ElectronLibre Megaf_, I don't think I am. 20:03 OldCoder I don't know if the girls are talking about Areas or other protection 20:03 OldCoder ShadowNinja, are you still in the game? One of the girls protected the wrong house and we need to unprotect. Is this via Areas? 20:03 OldCoder And does Areas support share? 20:03 * OldCoder is on an errand and will check back 20:04 ShadowNinja I'm working on a private world now. I'll try to help. 20:06 Megaf_ OldCoder: yep, select the area within the area then /add_owner AreaID Player Area Name 20:07 OldCoder Megaf_, thank you. AreaID PlayerName AreaName 20:07 OldCoder 3 parameters? 20:07 shadowzone Yep. 20:07 OldCoder And the original protector needs to do this? I can't, even as world owner? 20:07 Megaf_ OldCoder: and areaid is that number 20:07 shadowzone You can if you have the areas priv. 20:07 Megaf_ sometimes you can't 20:07 OldCoder Where does one find the AreaID and AreaName? 20:07 Megaf_ I hanve't figured out that yet 20:08 shadowzone OldCoder what server are you trying to figure out? 20:08 Megaf_ OldCoder: areaid is that number on the corner of the screen 20:08 OldCoder SilverCrab 20:08 shadowzone I can come and help you. 20:08 OldCoder Thank you, will you? 20:08 OldCoder minetest.org port 30019 20:08 Megaf_ OldCoder: areaname is the name you give to that area 20:08 OldCoder Returning there now 20:08 shadowzone Joining now. 20:10 Megaf_ I wish there was an easy way to add lots of skins to my server 20:10 DarkNekros Megaf_, which mod are you using? 20:10 OldCoder It is for 2D 20:10 Megaf_ DarkNekros: very good question 20:11 Megaf_ I have no idea 20:11 DarkNekros Megaf_, very good anwser :p 20:11 Megaf_ does that helps? 20:11 DarkNekros yes, it does 20:12 DarkNekros I use the mod 'skins' and what I did/do is to generate the skins in my personal computer and rsync them to the server later 20:12 DarkNekros john_minetest, +1 20:13 DarkNekros this skin adds the possibility of download all the skins from a web db 20:14 OldCoder I've been fiddling with the skins mod will post some code later I'm curious about 20:17 Megaf_ Sokomine: are you playing now? 20:17 Megaf_ richie is asking about you on my server 20:19 Sokomine Megaf_: not right now 20:19 Megaf_ Sokomine: and do you know richie anyway? 20:21 Calinou this skin adds the possibility of download all the skins from a web db 20:22 Calinou 95 % of skins suck thoug 20:22 Calinou +h 20:22 Calinou they clog up the list :( 20:22 Calinou which is hard and tedious to browse 20:22 Calinou the skin db should have purging every year or so 20:26 shadowzone Hi est31. 20:27 shadowzone I think I may be wrong but I think I granted you interact on VE-Survival. 20:31 cg72 skin)db should support hires skins as well 20:31 shadowzone I added one of my skins to the skins DB. 20:32 cg72 nice 20:33 hisforever How do I trun a block vertically? 20:34 hisforever I know that a screwdriver is used for horantel 20:38 est31 hi shadowzone 20:38 shadowzone How are you? 20:39 est31 well, I've re-discovered MT. 20:39 est31 in the last time I'm mostly on goldrush 20:39 est31 you? 20:41 shadowzone I am good. 20:43 est31 sometimes I get a segfault. I don't know how to reproduce, and I don't get a stacktrace. How can I make it print a stacktrace without causing valgrind to almost halt the game due to slowdown? 20:44 shadowzone o.O 20:44 shadowzone I dunno. 20:44 VanessaE est31: run it under gdb 20:46 cg72 then after a crash bt it 20:46 cg72 hi vanessa 20:46 VanessaE hi 20:46 est31 thx will try that 20:48 est31 here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8502703/ 20:50 hisforever Vanessa How do I use the screwdriver to Flip a bloch vertically? 20:50 est31 I keep the gdb live in case you need more info 20:51 VanessaE hisforever: you start by saying a magic incantation, sacrificing a goat to your favorite diety, then tearing your hair out :P 20:52 hisforever lol 20:52 shadowzone huh? 20:52 VanessaE hisforever: wield the screwdriver, shift-punch with it, and try using it while it says it's in mode 3 20:52 hisforever thats funney 20:52 VanessaE shadowzone: translation: the screwdriver in minetest is a pain in the ass to use in some cases 20:53 shadowzone Oh. 20:53 ElectronLibre Good bye everyone. 20:53 hisforever ty I'll brb trying it 20:58 Sokomine Megaf_: yes, i've met a player named richie in the past on a server. i don't know if it's the same you're talking about 20:58 Sokomine VanessaE: there's that new version of the screwdriver that's said to be more practical 20:58 VanessaE oh? 21:00 Sokomine https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10047&p=156767 i havn't checked it out yet, but there are reports from players who claim that it is easier to use 21:00 VanessaE OH FINALLY 21:04 Amaz It's much eaiser. 21:05 est31 if I compile with git is -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug default? 21:05 PenguinDad est31: Release is the default build type 21:05 Fritigern Megaf_: No, i don;t have tox, and i will not be pressured into getting it either. I have Skype and very happy to have it. 21:06 shadowzone Just tried it out. 21:06 shadowzone MUCH easier to use. 21:06 Fritigern I don't care. I'm not onterested. 21:06 Fritigern *Interested 21:06 shadowzone Not tox. 21:06 shadowzone The new screwdrivers. 21:07 Sokomine it does sound far more intuitive 21:07 shadowzone Yep. 21:08 Sokomine i've modified the screwdriver in my singleplayer world so that it rotates one further step only and outputs param2 for debugging purposes. on servers, having the screwdriver last longer would be good. they break so fast 21:09 PenguinDad Imo screwdivers shouldn't break in creative mode 21:09 PenguinDad *drivers 21:10 Sokomine we might introduce a new variable: annoy_players. if it's set to a very low value, then it's like dreambuilder, and builders will be happy. if it's set to a high value, building tools such as the screwdriver will not last long, and players who build too much might get banned for disturbing the server by doing some building instead of the there-desired pvp... 21:10 shadowzone VanessaE, your needed on VE-FreeForAll. 21:10 hisforever My block of wood do not mover with the screw driver grrrr 21:10 Sokomine creative mode is annoying in itshelf... 21:11 Sokomine hisforever: perhaps they do not have facedir yet 21:11 hisforever What Sokomine? 21:13 Fritigern hisforever: try the screwdriver on stairs 21:14 hisforever that works but horzonally I need a veryical flip? 21:14 Fritigern Try using the screwdriver on a different side 21:14 hisforever want to flip the grain in a wood block 21:15 hisforever I did even on top of the wood 21:18 PenguinDad hisforever: wood blocks don't use facedir iirc 21:20 VanessaE Sokomine: this screwdriver is a LITTLE easier to use at least. 21:23 hisforever ok it will screw driver 1 turns it horizontal screw driver 3 flips vertical but none turn woof 21:24 hisforever screw drivers can't turn wood blocks 21:24 VanessaE hisforever: that's because wood blocks simply can't be turned. 21:25 VanessaE hisforever: they don't have the setting needed for it 21:25 hisforever ty vanessa I thought that was the case 21:25 hisforever God bless 21:26 Calinou est31, use bt full for full backtrace after crash 21:26 VanessaE hisforever: no worries. most of the blocks in the default game don't have that setting. it's trivial to add it, though. 21:26 est31 I've pasted my backtrace. If you need it its on http://paste.ubuntu.com/8502703/ 21:28 VanessaE est31: file it as an issue 21:28 VanessaE est31: also you should do, 'bt full' 21:30 est31 I cant reproduce it with HEAD anymore 21:31 est31 still file? 21:32 VanessaE no 21:32 VanessaE not if you are sure you can't reproduce it anymore 21:33 est31 OK, When I can reproduce it with HEAD, I'll file. 21:39 VanessaE shadowzone: wtf is going on in there? 21:40 shadowzone In what? 21:40 shadowzone My head, not much right now. 21:40 VanessaE in inchra 21:40 VanessaE hah 21:40 shadowzone I dunno. 21:40 shadowzone I really don't know. 21:45 meldrian hejhej 22:17 Megaf_ Good night everyone 22:31 shadowzone Night Megaf_. 23:18 Fritigern I can;t figure out how Doyousketch2's Stained Glass mod hides itself from the creative inventory. I want them to show up (yes i do, my preference) but how? 23:19 VanessaE Fritigern: look for not_in_creative_inventory = 1 23:19 VanessaE being added to groups 23:19 VanessaE (yes, it's that obvious ;) ) 23:20 Fritigern I have, it's the first thing i have looked for. 23:22 VanessaE hm 23:22 VanessaE the fork of it that I use it pretty straightforward 23:23 VanessaE function makenode(arg) 23:23 VanessaE ..... 23:23 VanessaE groups = {snappy=2,cracky=3,oddly_breakable_by_hand=3, not_in_creative_inventory=1}, 23:23 VanessaE end 23:24 Fritigern My version says "groups = {snappy=2,cracky=3,oddly_breakable_by_hand=3}," 23:24 VanessaE that's the only place in this fork where register_node() is ever called 23:24 Fritigern It's also version 1,2, which version is your fork based on? 23:25 VanessaE mine doesn't show a version, it's andersje's fork 23:25 VanessaE git@github.com:andersje/stained_glass.git 23:27 Fritigern BRB 23:47 kersnert I installed minetest from apt (0.4.9) , created a world, quit and started the world with minetestserver. then i connected and played. i couldn't craft gunpowder so i downloaded from git and built 0.4.10-dev. I still can't craft gunpowder/tnt in dedicated server. but when i start singleplayer /giveme tnt:tnt, that works fine. where should I be looking?