Time Nick Message 00:00 cities Ok swiftkey is getting turned off 00:00 cities Powwow where the heck did that come from 00:00 cities That was bizarre 00:04 iqualfragile shadowzone: poor you, how do you make friends when homeschooled? do you at least participate in some activities? 00:05 cities A 12 year old knowledgeable enough to seek out minetest 00:06 iqualfragile cities: its father is at least a bit linux-obsessed 00:07 cities Oh 00:07 cities Well that would explain some 00:07 cities Why is it an it 00:08 shadowzone Well I have plenty of friends. 00:08 shadowzone I have all of you guys and I have about 15 irl friends. 00:08 iqualfragile cities: because its not 14 yet 00:09 iqualfragile shadowzone: i would doubt that, you most likely have 12 aquantices and like 2 friends 00:09 shadowzone You got me. 00:10 * shadowzone is afk 00:10 cities Why does being not 14 yet make one an it 00:11 iqualfragile cities: because i don't asing a sex or gender to people below age of consent 00:11 cities Ohh... 00:11 cities Ok 00:12 VanessaE iqualfragile: do you refer to a child you've met in person as "it" when you can clearly ascertain their gender, then? 00:12 cities So when your child is born do you say it's an it?? 00:12 iqualfragile VanessaE: actually, yes 00:12 VanessaE (assume a child born without any physical or mental abnormalities) 00:12 iqualfragile its "das kind" in german 00:12 cities That's kind of weird 00:12 VanessaE iqualfragile: I would refrain from that in the future if I were you - you are very likely to get assulted for that. 00:13 VanessaE assaulted* 00:13 iqualfragile VanessaE: wut? 00:13 iqualfragile why? 00:13 VanessaE because parents do NOT take too kindly to people calling their children "it" instead of appropriate gender pronouns 00:13 cities That's not normal and I would think parents wouldn't take kindly to their child being called an it 00:13 VanessaE hah 00:13 cities Wow you took my words 00:14 VanessaE talk about jinx, cities :) 00:14 cities Jk 00:14 hisforever VanessaE Dose the Animal Mod work in your Dreambuilders Game? I can't seem to get them running. 00:14 VanessaE hisforever: it does work, yes, but I don't use it at present. I may add it back in some time soon though 00:15 hisforever btw Vanessa Dreambuilder is the best game I've seen yew 00:15 cities Ios 8 has some keyboard bugs in landscape 00:15 VanessaE iqualfragile: in many cultures, calling someone (child or otherwise) "it" is akin to equating that person to an inanimate object or an animal. 00:15 VanessaE thanks, hisforever :) 00:15 cities Don't think it's working quite correctly 00:15 hisforever :) 00:17 hisforever Vanessa the reason I ask is that I'm not getting Error messages when Animals are actvated . 00:17 VanessaE hisforever: but they don't spawn, correct? 00:17 hisforever ok ty 00:17 iqualfragile the german word for girl "das mädchen" is not female, actually, its "das", still its common to make the gramatical mistake of saying "das mädchen … sie" 00:17 VanessaE hisforever: after you install the mod, you have to do /mobf and turn turn on "secondary spawning" 00:17 iqualfragile never really thought about that, to be honest 00:18 hisforever yes spawn is the word I needed 00:18 iqualfragile but this is getting faar faar off topic, lets just settle it with on the internet everybody is male untill prooven otherwise 00:18 VanessaE iqualfragile: I would take offense to that... 00:19 iqualfragile VanessaE: you are in prooven otherwise 00:19 VanessaE indeed so 00:19 VanessaE as is shadowzone. 00:19 hisforever I'll try that before I head to bed brb 00:19 iqualfragile no, why would the child be? 00:19 VanessaE beee....cause I've known her for several months now? 00:19 shadowzone I'm a he? 00:20 shadowzone Since when? 00:20 iqualfragile VanessaE: well, i have not 00:20 shadowzone I am a girl. 00:20 VanessaE iqualfragile: shadowzone a player from our Inchra server network, well known over there. 00:20 shadowzone I have proof on my YT channel. 00:20 shadowzone A little too well known if you ask me. 00:21 iqualfragile omg look red pandas! http://i.imgur.com/VS1rWcE.gif 00:21 iqualfragile we call them cat bears, which is kinda accurate 00:21 hisforever Would secondary spawning be /secondary spawing on? 00:23 VanessaE hisforever: just type /mobf and turn it on in the menu that comes on 00:23 VanessaE comes up* 00:23 hisforever ok 00:24 VanessaE hisforever: be sure you also select which mobs you actually want, in that menu 00:24 VanessaE e.g. you can turn stuff on/off in there, like boombomb, etc. 00:24 Cylus iqualfragile: Red pandas look like large raccoons to me. 00:24 hisforever ok ty 00:25 iqualfragile Cylus: look at them in real life, katzenbären is an accurate descripiton 00:25 Cylus iqualfragile: I don't think I have any in my area to look at. 00:26 iqualfragile Cylus: not even zoos? 00:26 Cylus iqualfragile: Huh .... I'm not even sure I have a zoo in my area .... maybe I do .... 00:26 Cylus Keep in mind that I'm a pedestrian. I can't venture out too far. 00:27 * Fritigern_AFK is not a girl, but is a G.I.R.L. (Guy In Real Life) 00:27 Cylus Fritigern_AFK: Ha ha, nice. 00:28 hisforever -I- invalad comand /modf this is what comes up? 00:28 iqualfragile moBf 00:28 iqualfragile B 00:29 iqualfragile as in Breasts 00:29 iqualfragile hello shadowzone :D 00:29 hisforever Sorry to be a pain lol 00:29 selah Hi. 00:29 iqualfragile why did you change your name? 00:29 selah We had a brown out. 00:29 iqualfragile brown? 00:29 selah Our power cut for a second. 00:29 iqualfragile and you don't seem to be using sasl 00:29 iqualfragile did the settings not save? 00:29 selah Not with the account. 00:29 selah This one isn't registered. 00:30 iqualfragile what does it even mean? 00:30 Fritigern_AFK Shado, let me get you up to speed about what i just said : [17:27:27] Fritigern_AFK is not a girl, but is a G.I.R.L. (Guy In Real Life) 00:30 Fritigern_AFK Selah is a point of rest in a psalm 00:30 selah Yep. 00:31 selah And my real name 00:31 VanessaE iqualfragile: "brownout" is when the mains voltage sags low enough to shut things like computers down, but without the power actually cutting off entirely (blackout). 00:31 iqualfragile selah: NO NO NO 00:31 shadowzone What? 00:31 iqualfragile don't put your real name on the internet 00:31 shadowzone It's only my first name/ 00:31 shadowzone And no one can get much from that. 00:31 hisforever I'll try to fix it tomorrow I'm going to hit the bed God bless everyone 00:31 VanessaE shadowzone: you need you buy a UPS. they aren't expensive and will prevent that in the future. 00:31 shadowzone Night. 00:31 oOChainLynxOo God bless, hisforever 00:32 VanessaE night, hisforever 00:32 iqualfragile VanessaE: well, the batteries are quite expensive 00:32 shadowzone VanessaE, yeah, oh well. 00:32 iqualfragile hisforever: im offended by the god bless 00:32 iqualfragile damn, was just about to start a flamewar 00:32 oOChainLynxOo Suck it up lel 00:32 oOChainLynxOo xD 00:32 oOChainLynxOo Flamewart 00:32 oOChainLynxOo War* 00:32 oOChainLynxOo Almost left Minetest because of one 00:32 Fritigern_AFK shadowzone: If you get frequent brownouts, you may want to invest in a UPS, it is designed to catch them and keep your PC running for about 5-15 minutes (depending on the type and wattage of the UPS) 00:32 oOChainLynxOo For this reason 00:32 shadowzone I might have to go tomorrow. 00:33 shadowzone No it's our whole house power. 00:33 VanessaE shadowzone: that's okay, you only need it for your PC. 00:33 shadowzone That's why I love laptops. 00:33 iqualfragile shadowzone: pc is love, pc is life! 00:34 VanessaE shadowzone: think of it like an oversized laptop battery that works on any PC. 00:34 Fritigern_AFK Yes, but with a UPS between the outlet and your PC, your PC would keep running when the rest of the house's appliances are out cold 00:34 Cylus Sorry iqualfragile, my real name is on the Internet as well. 00:34 shadowzone VanessaE, I'll talk to my dad about it. 00:34 shadowzone Maybe for my server machine. 00:34 iqualfragile shadowzone: you can connect multiple devices to a single ups 00:34 VanessaE shadowzone: I had to re-install my OS a couple weeks ago because of that (unplanned power cut, loose cord). 00:34 VanessaE it corrupted my file system 00:34 iqualfragile VanessaE: how? did you mount nobarrier? 00:35 shadowzone Oh/ 00:35 shadowzone Ouch! 00:35 Fritigern_AFK I like the UPS'es that APC makes,. they are very good 00:35 VanessaE iqualfragile: it smashed the kernel or the video driver in the process, not sure which. it was easier to wipe the OS partition and re-install. 00:35 Fritigern_AFK Wish i still had one 00:36 iqualfragile http://xkcd.com/861/ 00:36 Cylus Oh, I hate having to reinstall the system. Though when I have to do it, it's usually my own fault. I tend to break things. 00:36 VanessaE /home was unaffected, and I keep backups, so it was no big deal 00:36 iqualfragile Fritigern_AFK: yes, but not cheap 00:36 iqualfragile Cylus: i actually like reinstalling the system 00:36 Cylus iqualfragile: Why is that? 00:36 iqualfragile it purges your system of cruft 00:36 Fritigern_AFK No, but if you want cheap, then don;t even start running a server 00:37 Cylus It takes hours and leaves youy without a working computer during that time. 00:37 iqualfragile and all the strange libs you one day installed to make that one software from 1990 you downloaded run 00:37 iqualfragile Cylus: my record are 8 minutes 00:37 VanessaE Cylus: I got smart a while back and scripted it. :) 00:37 Cylus Cruft is usually why I have to reinstall. But if I was better at this, I wouldn't e leaving cruft. 00:37 iqualfragile but not for arch, arch takes a bit longer 00:37 VanessaE because I'm constantly breaking it :P 00:38 Cylus VanessaE: Oh, sweet. That must be nice. Just set it up to go, then head off to work while you wait .... 00:38 VanessaE Cylus: almost so, yes; I have to answer a couple of prompts 00:38 VanessaE (msttfcorefonts for example) 00:39 Cylus Meh. I don't need those. I just need stuff from Debian main. 00:39 VanessaE I think the license for that ^^^ and choosing a display manager (even though I always leave it at lightdm), and always telling it no I don't wanna futz with lirc or whatever it was called. 00:40 Cylus VanessaE: Which system has you choose a display manager? 00:40 VanessaE Cylus: I install Xubuntu but I also pull in components from gnome and kde, so I end up with prompts for either kdm or gdm (I forget which) 00:42 Cylus VanessaE: Ah, got it. It's a bit of a pain how some of those components pull in unwanted packages. For example, I dare not touch LXDE, because it pulls in a package (I'm not even sure which one) that breaks the notification system pretty badly. 00:42 VanessaE jeez 00:43 Cylus Though that was another distro, come to think of it. I haven't tried it on my current one. I tend to distro surf a bit. 00:57 paramat =P still learning github ... once i have created a new branch in a repo at github, do i use 'git clone' to transfer the branch info into my local repo? 01:01 VanessaE yup I think so 01:01 VanessaE if it doesn't work, look up "remote tracking branch" 01:02 VanessaE (because at that point it becomes a slight pain in the ass until you get the right command so that you can track the branch properly) 01:02 VanessaE you forked someone else's repo and now you want to clone your fork right? 01:06 paramat i forked minetest game, created a new branch ready for making a pull request 01:07 paramat thanks 01:08 VanessaE yep, that should work then 01:20 kahrl VanessaE: I hate those prompts during apt-get install :P 01:20 kahrl I just want to walk away from the computer and enjoy my life, not sit while it's installing 01:20 kahrl (so I usually export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive) 01:24 jin_xi http://youtu.be/Ep5KJ3aUGFk moar particles colliding... in some ways 02:17 Fritigern_AFK paramat: Use git glone , and use git checkout to switch branches 02:18 paramat thanks 02:21 Fritigern_AFK From one git noob to another: you're welcome ;-) 02:22 Fritigern_AFK I sometimes switch branches on the repo of SingularityViewer, that's how i know 02:57 Zeno` Fritigern_AFK, do you have a github account? 03:01 Fritigern_AFK I do, but there's nothing Minetest related. In fact, all there is are outdated SingularityViewer sources. 03:02 Fritigern_AFK But, Zeno`, if you still want to have a looksee: https://github.com/Fritigern 03:03 Zeno` Oh, I like your avatar 03:03 VanessaE whose? 03:03 Zeno` Fritigern's 03:04 Zeno` Not as nice as mine, but still good 03:05 Fritigern_AFK Zeno`: I just set it. I realized that i still hadn't done it so i did it just before pasting you the URL :-) 03:05 Zeno` :) 03:05 Zeno` I've seen it before somewhere 03:06 Zeno` https://avatars3.githubusercontent.com/u/5899883?v=2&s=460 03:06 Zeno` That's my photo 03:52 ShadowNinja Sokomine: "/legacy_load_areas 0" with owners.tbl (or whatever the NO filename is) in the world path is all that's needed. 03:58 ShadowNinja Sokomine: I've got a old copy of redcrab's owners.tbl if you need it. 04:11 Sokomine ShadowNinja: thanks. i've discovered the command you've implemented for converting the file, and so far it seems to work fine 04:54 oOChainLynxOo OldCoder, Brooklyn needs you 04:54 OldCoder R 05:53 OldCoder VanessaE, awake? Probably not. sfan5, I need to merge old and new defaults. To get rid of unknown goldblock nodes, just copy the register_node code and the png file? RealBadAngel? 05:54 VanessaE I am here 05:54 OldCoder See question 05:54 OldCoder Sokomine had me revert to old default, but need two blocks from new one 05:54 OldCoder Just copy register_node code and png files? 05:56 OldCoder Looks easy 06:03 VanessaE well I was here. I'm off to bed now. 06:04 VanessaE better talk to Sokomine about that :) 06:04 VanessaE night 06:04 OldCoder VanessaE, it is fixed 06:04 OldCoder Check out the world in the morning 06:04 OldCoder It's getting good 06:40 sol_invictus I wonder, is player:hud_change(id, "text", "new value") broken? 06:40 sol_invictus every time I try doing this text becomes black 06:41 sol_invictus oops, no 06:42 sol_invictus I forgot to quote stat name 07:03 sfan5 OldCoder: still need me? 07:04 OldCoder sfan5, no; I think I've got the changes done 07:04 OldCoder SilverCrab has turned out well 07:04 OldCoder Check it out 07:04 OldCoder minetest.org port 30019 07:04 OldCoder I had to merge old and new defaults, etc. 07:04 OldCoder Still some missing blocks 07:04 * sfan5 starts minetest 07:04 OldCoder But a lot of nice structures 07:11 hmmmm jesus christ, OldCoder do you not have a job? 07:11 OldCoder hmmmm, ? 07:11 Zeno` lol 07:12 OldCoder hmmmm, if that is your way of thanking me for reviving RedCrab, you're welcome 07:13 OldCoder And, for what it's worth, one startup has more or less shut down and I need to decide about moving to another in Texas 07:13 OldCoder Thank you for your concern 07:13 OldCoder 07:16 Krock !up minetest.ntdll.net 07:16 MinetestBot minetest.ntdll.net:30000 is up (535ms) 07:16 Krock <3 MinetestBot 07:16 MinetestBot <3 Krock 07:21 oOChainLynxOo Well I'm out for the night 07:21 OldCoder Thought you were asleep 07:21 OldCoder o/ 07:22 OldCoder The world looks good 07:22 oOChainLynxOo Lol 07:22 oOChainLynxOo Excellent 07:22 oOChainLynxOo Good night all 07:35 sfan5 OldCoder: https://mediacru.sh/QedeOde7qkBX 07:36 OldCoder R 07:37 OldCoder What is it? 07:37 OldCoder Ah 07:37 sfan5 a tower on the redcrab server 07:37 sfan5 it only seems to go to 3000 nodes on your copy though 07:37 OldCoder That is tall 07:37 OldCoder We can rebuild it 07:38 OldCoder sfan5, RedCrab is dead 07:38 OldCoder Most likely 07:38 OldCoder It's good the new copy exists at all 07:38 sfan5 what about the griefed copy you were talking about? 07:38 sfan5 yeah, 1 copy is always better than no copy 07:38 OldCoder The griefed copy is apparently very old 07:39 OldCoder Vanessa or Jakey told me, useless 07:39 sfan5 D: 07:39 OldCoder Do not D: 07:39 OldCoder We have rescued almost all of the world 07:39 OldCoder And have tidied up the mods to a large extent 07:39 * OldCoder is quite pleased 07:40 OldCoder We've got the Walmart, the greenhouse in the sky, the giant raspberry, the tallest stairs in the world, the hotel, etc. 07:40 sfan5 if something's missing I still have a small part of redcrabs world in my ubuntu backup 07:40 OldCoder Feel free to graft it in if it's useful 07:41 OldCoder You know, all the lava fountains seem unsafe 07:42 OldCoder Is there supposed to be so much lava? 07:42 sfan5 I don't know much about the buildings on redcrabs server 07:42 sfan5 VanessaE might be the person you want to ask 07:42 OldCoder kk 07:42 OldCoder Anyway, that's it 07:44 OldCoder Whoa. A whole rooftop made of lava. 07:45 Zeno` Nice work OldCoder 07:46 OldCoder Oh, you visited? 07:46 OldCoder Check it out 07:46 Zeno` I have a couple of times. Will do so again shortly 07:47 OldCoder Hm. Here's a store that sells "houses boats castles stuffs and more" 07:47 Zeno` it's not 30019 anymore? 07:48 Zeno` weird.. working now 07:48 OldCoder It's 30019 07:48 OldCoder I've restarted a few times but up for half an hour or so now 07:48 OldCoder Oh, the unknown item 07:48 OldCoder is a landrush thing 07:48 OldCoder I'll edit it out later 07:49 Zeno` ahh ok 08:24 burli Hi there 08:24 burli I'm new to minetest and I like it. But I can't fly 08:25 ElectronLibre (Press K once with the fly privilege :D) 08:25 burli I know, but does'nt work 08:25 ElectronLibre Good [night|morning|afternoon|evening] everyone. 08:26 ElectronLibre Ok, can you type /privs and give me the list of your privileges? 08:27 burli no fly priv 08:28 ElectronLibre You aren't on a local server I suppose. 08:28 burli interact, teleport, shout, settime, bring, basic_privs, password, ban, home, server, kick, rollback, privs, give 08:28 ElectronLibre Ok, you have just to type /grant burli fly . 08:28 burli I just run singleplayer 08:28 ElectronLibre Ok, /grant singleplayer all so. 08:28 ElectronLibre And you will get all the privileges, including fly :). 08:30 burli great, thx 08:30 burli forgot to use /grant 08:30 burli *rolleyes* 08:31 ElectronLibre Everything is better when /grant command is entered ^^. 08:31 burli But how can I make this priv permament? I try to add free_move = true in minetest.conf 08:31 burli also default_privs = fly 08:32 ElectronLibre It's impossible :/... In singleplayer mod you join the world when the server start only with interact, shout and privs, which is hidden.. 08:33 ElectronLibre In minetest.conf it's for Server options. You can run a server without making it public and you will be able to use your nickname instead of singleplayer, and when you are granted it's saved after server's shutting down :). 08:33 burli Is it possible to find Bones? I died and resurrect, but I could'nt find my old bones 08:34 ElectronLibre Hmm, was your inventory empty? 08:34 burli no 08:35 burli I mined some minerals and other stuff and my bones should be at the exit of a cave, but I could'nt find the cave again 08:37 ElectronLibre Ok.. The only way to find them is to find where you died... If you have not restarted the server since you died, you can fly and press R to see every chunck loaded. If you explore every of them you will be able to find them. Or you can see it in the logs by looking for "player singleplayer have lost X hp" or a similar message. 08:38 ElectronLibre Did you build or dig nodes or restart the server since you died? 08:39 burli I restart the game 08:40 ElectronLibre Don't restart the server, that will add lines to your debug.txt log file and make the search more difficult (If you did it it's not a problem..). 08:41 burli My bones are still there? 08:41 ElectronLibre Yes. 08:41 ElectronLibre But now there is a lot of lines after the die message with the location of your bones ^^"... 08:41 burli Ok 08:43 ElectronLibre Just open debug.txt file with leafpad or notepad.. hm.. not notepad.. and then start searching for "player singleplayer have lost " or a similar message. 08:43 burli If someone can tell me the "die" message in the log i will be able to find it 08:43 * ElectronLibre try to remember. 08:44 burli Is the log size limited? 08:45 ElectronLibre No, but when your hard drive is full you know that it's time to clean the debug.txt file ^^... 08:45 burli No, just 1.4MB 08:45 * ElectronLibre have ever seen bigger. 08:46 ElectronLibre *has 08:46 burli how can I get my current coordinates? 08:47 * ElectronLibre started MT to kill him and see the message but MT crashed >_>... He likes sid.. 08:47 ElectronLibre By pressing F5 it's in the top of the screen. 08:48 burli great, thx 08:48 burli brb 08:48 Krock \o/ Amaz ing 08:51 * ElectronLibre cratered. 08:52 ElectronLibre No logs o.o ... 08:53 burli damn 08:53 ElectronLibre I just hope you have some logs... 08:57 ElectronLibre I try with an old version to see the message. 08:59 Krock Minetest has 1026 correctly formattedforum threads in the forums 09:00 Krock ^mods 09:01 burli wtf!! A tree makes Damage through glass o.o 09:01 ElectronLibre A tree makes damages? °_° 09:01 PenguinDad Krock: only 311 left to go 09:01 Krock tree monsters 09:02 Krock burli, I know this. their attack/damage range is more than 1 node (1m) 09:02 ElectronLibre Ah, ok.. yes burli if they are close to you they can damage you through nodes. 09:03 Krock <3 parts in the minetest codes like "m_dirty = true;" 09:03 burli ah, damn. Nearly died in my house o.o 09:04 burli Ok, just need to find my bones :-D 09:05 ElectronLibre burli, try to search in your minetest.conf "singleplayer damaged by", it's the begining of the message. 09:06 burli you mean debug.txt 09:06 burli I'm searching 09:06 ElectronLibre *debug.txt sorry. 09:06 Amaz In minetest.conf XD 09:06 burli singleplayer, damage 2 hp, health now 0 hp 09:07 burli thats the die message, I guess 09:07 ElectronLibre The only way I found to see the message is use 0.4.10 started from DOS command line environnement, horrible >_>... 09:07 Amaz Yeah. 09:07 ElectronLibre Yes :D 09:07 ElectronLibre And the is the location at the right. 09:07 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: you use dos? 09:08 burli wtf?? I did'nt die 65 times 09:09 burli ah, these messages are for critters 09:09 ElectronLibre On an other computer I have Win8 and DOS is the only thing that remind me Linux xD.. No it's just that when I start minetest the text window diseappear so I want to keep it open by starting it with DOS. I added minetest path to the %PATH% so it's very easy. 09:10 Amaz s/an other/another 09:10 Amaz :P 09:10 ElectronLibre Thank you ^^"... 09:10 * PenguinDad hands Amaz a / 09:10 Amaz :P 09:11 ElectronLibre I can't recognize if it's another or an other.. I will probably learn it soon. 09:12 * Krock hands PenguinDad a o/ 09:13 * PenguinDad hands Krock a hoove 09:13 * Krock takes it and cooks it 09:13 Amaz ElectronLibre, most of the time it's another... I can't think of anywhere where it would be an other... 09:13 * Krock adds tutorial world to his future builds 09:14 Amaz : 09:14 Amaz *:D 09:14 ElectronLibre Ok, but in US english or UK english, or both? 09:14 Amaz Why do the enter and backspace keys have to be so close together?!?! 09:14 Amaz I presume both, but I only know about UK English... 09:14 PenguinDad tutorial.world.nice? ? ":D" : ":(" 09:14 Krock ^ cuz life isn't a pony farm 09:15 Krock PenguinDad, parse error at ' ? ' 09:15 ElectronLibre So burli did you find the last "player singleplayer damaged by"? Are you going to the written location? 09:16 burli ElectronLibre, no. It's not that easy to find 09:16 PenguinDad Krock: y u no ternary operator? 09:17 ElectronLibre burli, did you try to start search at the end of the file, from the end to the top? 09:17 ElectronLibre *begining 09:19 burli find a better way. "singleplayer respawns at" 09:19 ElectronLibre Hum, yes, easier way xD... 09:21 Krock PenguinDad, cuz u already '?' there, so no 2nd need 09:22 PenguinDad Krock: that first ? belonged to the function 09:22 ElectronLibre But burli, start from the end to the begining if you can, it's very easy by this way to find the last time you died. :) 09:22 Krock PenguinDad, k. 09:23 Megaf Morning Amaz ElectronLibre Krock PenguinDad 09:23 Megaf How are things? 09:23 Amaz Fine. 09:24 PenguinDad Hey Megaf 09:24 Krock liek yesterday 09:24 ElectronLibre As usual : boring, and you? 09:24 * Krock waves at Megaf 09:25 Megaf so I was compiling minetest client and server on a really slow board, I left it compiling overnight and today when I check the status I read this. 09:25 Megaf [ 14%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetestserver.dir/script/lua_api/l_item.cpp.o 09:25 Megaf c++: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus) 09:25 ElectronLibre O_O 09:25 PenguinDad lol 09:26 Krock it built l_item.cpp file for me 09:26 Megaf And then I realized that I ran a make -j 4 on a single core with only 256 MB of ram 09:26 Krock *fine 09:26 ElectronLibre Megaf : try -j2 ^^... 09:26 Megaf so it basicaly ran ou of ram 09:26 Megaf out* 09:26 Krock ElectronLibre, lel. 2 cores for a singlecore? :P 09:27 Megaf yep, I'm trying with -j 2 now 09:27 PenguinDad Megaf: next time without the -j ;) 09:27 * Megaf runs a make clean 09:27 * Krock compiles without -j just now 09:27 Megaf clear* 09:27 Megaf clean** 09:28 Megaf ok, here we go 09:29 Megaf 0% done! 09:29 ElectronLibre I tried a month ago to compile with a very old computer, and around 25% he sent a shutdown -h now message because the processor was too hot and he shuted down O_o... 09:29 ElectronLibre :D 09:29 Megaf lol 09:29 Megaf hm, I think -j 2 i faster 09:29 Krock ElectronLibre, nothing dramatic if you compile incremental 09:30 * PenguinDad never compiles incrementally 09:30 ElectronLibre With a 2 cores and around 500Mo of RAM it takes around 30min.. 09:30 Megaf Krock: sometimes incremental compiling can run into problems 09:30 Zeno` I never compile in the source tree 09:30 Krock I hate json or whatever breaks the incremental linking :( 09:30 sol_invictus any ideas? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=eihXTL7i 09:30 Megaf ElectronLibre: that's slower than my ODroid U3 quad core ARM 09:30 Megaf much slower 09:30 Krock Megaf, yeah. I noticed recently 09:30 ElectronLibre I just types make -j2 and around 20 minutes he crashed xD.. Yes thi is an old computer too.. 09:30 PenguinDad Krock: JSON is still better than XML 09:30 Megaf it takes about 3 minutes to compile minetestserver on my ODroid 09:31 Krock PenguinDad, yeah it is.. but the stuff breaks the incremental linking 09:31 Zeno` -j8 ftw 09:31 PenguinDad -j1337 isn't awesome 09:31 Krock param /p:Configuration=Release ftw 09:32 ElectronLibre sol_invictus, which program gave you this error message? 09:32 sol_invictus minetestserver 09:32 ElectronLibre Ok o_o.. 09:32 ElectronLibre Minetest-dev server? 09:32 Krock sol_invictus, looks like strlen.s is missing? 09:32 sol_invictus yes, dev 09:33 Krock lol fail. something else is missing 09:33 ElectronLibre I suppose it's a lua library, for the strlen function O_o... 09:33 Krock oops not json. jthread 09:33 sol_invictus I get segfaults every few hours on dev version 09:34 sol_invictus and now seems like I managed to reproduce segfault from lua 09:34 ElectronLibre O_o.. Ok.. "Did you try to turn it off and on again?" xD.. 09:35 Megaf That moment when you are happy because there's people playing in your server early morning and at the same time sad because you want to turn it off to backup things and update it 09:35 Megaf !server Megaf 09:35 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 3/9, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 1672ms 09:36 ElectronLibre The only way to fix this, I suppose, is to download the missing library and put it in its directory... 09:38 sol_invictus which library is missing exactly? 09:39 ElectronLibre If it's a library, strlen.s . Anyway it's strlen.s which is missing, so just try to find it on the web.. 09:40 Krock !server plat 09:40 MinetestBot Krock: Krock's Ultimative Platform | 62.203.234.241 | Clients: 0/25, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 33ms 09:40 * Krock slaps Megaf with 1672 / 33 09:41 ElectronLibre There is also less clients on your server Krock. 09:41 Krock ElectronLibre, yeha. full of zeros 09:42 ElectronLibre I would be very happy to go to your server but I doubt that I will stay a long time... 09:43 sol_invictus aha, turn it off more often, Krock 09:43 PenguinDad !server just 09:43 MinetestBot PenguinDad: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 31/78, 14/31 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 48ms 09:43 Krock sol_invictus, oke. 09:45 sol_invictus nah, I'm actually sorry that you can't run it 24/7, I wouldn't leave otherwise 09:53 sol_invictus I figured out what method causes segfoult 09:53 sol_invictus segfault* 09:54 * Krock gives sol a cookie 09:54 sol_invictus player:hud_change( id, 'text', 'long text' ) 09:54 * sol_invictus noms it 10:04 sol_invictus Krock, I seem to know why this HUD goes haywire sometimes 10:04 sol_invictus have you looked at hud.lua in landrush mod? 10:05 PenguinDad Such hud much long very segfault wow 10:05 sol_invictus lol 10:06 sol_invictus Krock, right now I'm referring missing health bar and text becoming black 10:07 sol_invictus this thing happens when some mod wrongly changes the hud 10:08 Megaf lol Krock 10:10 Megaf [ 25%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetest.dir/content_mapnode.cpp.o 10:10 Megaf one hour to go! 10:12 sol_invictus how old is your machine Megaf? 10:12 Megaf one or two years old 10:12 Megaf sol_invictus: it's a raspberry pi:) 10:13 Amaz XD 10:14 sol_invictus jeez 10:14 sol_invictus Megaf, have you tried enabling swap? 10:14 Megaf sol_invictus: no need for swap 10:14 sol_invictus no, you need to stop crashes 10:15 sol_invictus at least few hundred mb 10:18 Krock Megaf, mine is from 2006/7 .. uhm about 8 years old and takes 25 minutes to compile :) 10:19 Zeno` [100%] Built target minetestserver 10:19 Megaf 30% here 10:19 Zeno` [100%] Built target minetest 10:19 Zeno` real 0m1.079s 10:19 Megaf at the end we will see how long it take 10:20 Megaf Zeno`: was that after a make clean? 10:20 Zeno` yes 10:20 Megaf one second? 10:20 Zeno` yep 10:20 Megaf SSD? 10:20 Zeno` cope 10:20 Zeno` nope* 10:20 Zeno` $ make clean; time make -j8 > /dev/null 10:20 Zeno` real 0m0.977s 10:21 PenguinDad Zeno`: what cpu? 10:21 Zeno` model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz 10:22 Megaf ok, let me get the latest minetest and try here 10:22 Megaf HERE=my old desktop at my old home 10:25 Zeno` The only thing that takes a long time to compile is Qt (especially with webkit) 10:26 Zeno` I have 7000 bogomips :/ :3 10:27 Zeno` thing is I still sometimes get <20 fps on minetest 10:27 sol_invictus only 4140 \: 10:28 PenguinDad sol_invictus: bogomips only tells you how good your processor is at doing nothing 10:28 sol_invictus yep, I know 10:28 sol_invictus but it's not a useless meter 10:29 sol_invictus my notebook has higher bogomips and it actually performs better in many things 10:30 Megaf bogomips : 6428.36 10:31 Megaf here 10:31 Megaf without overclock 10:31 Megaf that's my Phenom II x4 955 BE at 3,2 GHz 10:31 Zeno` PenguinDad, that's correct! 10:31 Megaf model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor 10:31 PenguinDad bogomips : 6628.87 10:31 Zeno` my computer is very good at doing nothing 10:32 Megaf so is mine 10:32 Zeno` heh 10:32 PenguinDad model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor 10:32 Megaf lets see how long does my x4 takes to build irrlicht 10:32 Amaz real 6m38.661s user 9m29.099s Time for building Minetest,] 10:33 Megaf real 0m30.128s 10:33 Megaf to build irrlicht 10:33 Amaz How do you find out the bogomips? 10:33 Zeno` this could be a new useless benchmark! 10:33 sol_invictus lscpu 10:33 PenguinDad Amaz: cat /proc/cpuinfo 10:33 ElectronLibre The compilation battle is started! 10:33 Megaf Amaz: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Bogomips 10:34 Megaf Amaz: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep bogomips 10:34 Megaf one of them 10:34 Amaz bogomips: 5424.43 10:34 sol_invictus Megaf, better cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i bogomips 10:34 Megaf ==== Successfully built LuaJIT 2.0.3 ==== 10:34 Megaf real 0m9.304s 10:35 Zeno` Megaf is it possible to cross compile targeting the rPI? 10:35 Zeno` Seems like if it was you'd save some time 10:36 Zeno` I've been meaning to get one of those things 10:36 DusXMT Zeno`: Should definitely be, but you need to build yourself a toolchain for that 10:36 Zeno` DusXMT, yeah, that's the tedious part 10:36 PenguinDad real 1m0.394s for building minetest 10:37 Amaz O.o 10:38 Megaf 37% on my Raspberry Pi 10:38 * ElectronLibre try to compile too. 10:39 Zeno` everybody is compiling O.O 10:39 * DusXMT should try compiling on his Pentium 3, if only he wasn't lazy 10:39 ElectronLibre Yes, it's the compilation awards xD 10:39 Zeno` haha 10:39 PenguinDad "real 0m27.123s" :> 10:40 Megaf [100%] Built target minetest 10:40 Megaf real 2m5.040s 10:40 Zeno` Megaf, is that with -j4? 10:40 ElectronLibre Compilation started for MT sources from github.com with -j4 . 10:40 Megaf PenguinDad: so your two core extra makes lots of difference 10:40 Megaf Zeno`: yep 10:40 Zeno` interesting 10:40 Megaf cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=Off -DIRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR=../1.8/ 10:41 PenguinDad Megaf: the second one was with tweaked CFLAGS 10:41 Megaf hm 10:42 Megaf I wonder how could we make gcc use the whole power of our CPUs 10:42 Zeno` try -j8 anyway :) 10:42 PenguinDad -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=None -DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS="-O0 -pipe" -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS="-O0 -pipe" makes compiling much faster 10:42 Zeno` or at least -j6 10:42 Zeno` no optimisation? hehe 10:42 Megaf I mean, our CPU have lots of interesting stuff 10:42 Megaf flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt hw_pstate npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save 10:43 Megaf it can do a lot via haardware 10:43 Zeno` your CPU has special instructions for minetest ABMs? 10:43 Zeno` That's cool 10:43 PenguinDad lol 10:43 Megaf lol 10:45 Megaf some instruction that could be used are sse4a and 3dnow 10:45 Megaf exclusive AMD instructions 10:46 PenguinDad Megaf: how about -march=native? 10:46 Megaf PenguinDad: that -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=None 10:46 Megaf with that it wont build anything playiable, would it? 10:46 * Jordach purrs at asie 10:46 sfan5 no 10:47 Megaf PenguinDad: with your flag it was slower 10:47 Megaf real 2m2.263s 10:47 sfan5 CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=None builds a debug build 10:53 iqualfragile genious idea: we should put the minetest article on simple english 10:53 iqualfragile it would be so much fun to read 10:54 Amaz What's "simple english"? 10:54 Jordach ELI5 10:55 iqualfragile Amaz: english witht 850-1500 words and almost no gramar 10:55 iqualfragile http://simple.wikipedia.org 10:55 iqualfragile http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Examples_of_simpler_English 10:55 Amaz XD 10:56 Amaz Nice! 10:57 iqualfragile sb should symlink murica.wikipedia.org to simple.wikipedia.org :D 10:58 PenguinDad xD 11:06 * Krock rubbs the duck 11:07 Megaf 51% on my raspberry! 11:07 iqualfragile Megaf: 51% of what? 11:07 iqualfragile minetest compile? 11:08 Krock ^ yup. 11:09 iqualfragile you could crosscompile 11:10 DusXMT iqualfragile: 'cause that's fun to do 11:20 * rubberduck krocks the dile 11:22 ElectronLibre :compilation_finished: 11:23 iqualfragile ElectronLibre: but does it blend? 11:25 ElectronLibre Hmm.. 11:25 * ElectronLibre verify 11:25 ElectronLibre $blend minetest ==> Yes, it blends! 11:26 * ElectronLibre should create a program that answer if it blends or not xD.. 11:29 Megaf Oh no! An error during the compilation! 11:30 ElectronLibre Which one? 11:30 Megaf I give up 11:30 Megaf minetest and irrlight are not easily portable, bad bad design 11:30 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/plain/124457 11:31 PenguinDad *irrlicht 11:31 ElectronLibre :/ 11:31 kilbith Megaf : finally entered in a MT world, with OpenGL : <1FPS :/ 11:32 kilbith I can't wait for MT + OpenGL ES... 11:32 Megaf kilbith: but using the precompiled minetest right? 11:32 kilbith yes 11:32 Megaf Im having a hard time compiling minetest here 11:32 kilbith jessie repo 11:32 Megaf it crashed at 51% 11:33 Megaf OpenGL ES it's a pain to make it work in irrlicht 11:33 PenguinDad kilbith: minetest already supports OpeGL ES 11:33 kilbith ah ? 11:33 Megaf even using the official irrlicht thing 11:33 PenguinDad *OpenGL 11:33 Krock kilbith, don't use a 1024px texture pack on VE's realtest server :P 11:33 kilbith but how I can switch to OpenGL ES easily ? 11:33 Krock ^ settings tab 11:33 kilbith Krock : I'm on Raspberry... 11:34 Krock ..and? 11:34 kilbith it's not in the settings tab 11:34 Krock so you're using minetest 0.4.10 stable? 11:35 Megaf Krock: I thing the minetest he is using is the stable and compiled with irrlicht for Open GL 11:35 kilbith yes, but even from -dev, there is no the OpenGL ES in this tab 11:35 kilbith check that 11:35 Krock hmm maybe you need some OpenGL ES libraries. idk 11:35 Megaf they have to be compiled 11:36 Megaf hes using a minetest from Debian Jessey repo 11:36 Megaf it is just the regular minetest compiled for arm 11:36 Megaf that works, but OpenGL will be done by the CPU 11:37 Krock you have an arm. wow. 11:37 kahrl I even have two 11:37 PenguinDad !g ARM Ltd 11:37 MinetestBot PenguinDad: http://www.arm.com/ 11:38 Megaf Krock: he is trying to run minetest on a Raspberry Pi 11:38 Krock \o/ kahrl got two. 11:38 Krock Megaf, sry. newground for me 11:38 PenguinDad I only got wings 11:38 Krock PenguinDad, and chicken have hands 11:38 Megaf PenguinDad: too bad you can use them to actually fly 11:45 * Krock high fives Jordach for having the same account-creation-day as me 12:24 iqualfragile i… i never even knew: http://xkcd.com/1110/ 12:50 rubberduck hi, i have a question, i make a mod and want to add a grinder recipe, is this possible without changing code in the technic modpack?? 12:59 sfan5 https://www.reddit.com/r/fossworldproblems/comments/2i7tvs/a_project_i_like_uses_hg_instead_of_git/ 12:59 sfan5 >minetest 12:59 sfan5 >minetest everywhere 12:59 Amaz What's hg? 13:00 sfan5 a vcs 13:00 sfan5 like git 13:00 SylvieLorxu You're a git if you don't use git 13:00 Amaz Okay. 13:00 Amaz XD 13:00 Nerotic lol 13:08 iqualfragile Amaz: like git but without useless complexity 13:08 iqualfragile rubberduck: read the technic source, iirc you can 13:08 iqualfragile find out how the modpack itself registers new grinder recipes 13:19 kaeza mornings 13:19 ElectronLibre Good morning kaeza :). 13:20 * Jordach pats kaeza 13:20 * Nerotic plays League of Legends while stalks 13:21 kaeza lol LoL 13:21 iqualfragile Nerotic: dota2 all the way! 13:21 Nerotic i play dota a lot, i play lol when i want a challenge :) 13:21 Jordach TF2 best team game NA EU 13:22 sfan5 Portal2 best game 13:22 sfan5 >Steam notification 13:22 Nerotic what sfan said 13:22 sfan5 >Jordach is playing Borderlands 2 13:23 Jordach sfan5, it supports Linux you know 13:23 Nerotic btw dota 2 copied lol 13:23 Jordach wat 13:23 Jordach nope 13:23 sfan5 Jordach: wtf is borderlands 2 even about? 13:23 Nerotic yea it did 13:23 Jordach dota was a mod for warcraft 3 13:23 Nerotic yea 13:23 Jordach it just got a standalone game 13:23 Nerotic the original 13:23 Nerotic but nothing like it is now 13:24 Jordach sfan5, shoot and loot 13:24 sfan5 "but nothing like it is wow" 13:24 sfan5 -- Doge, 2014 13:24 Jordach basically Destiny that actually is decent 13:24 Nerotic lol 13:24 kaeza sfan5, FPS + RPG = awesome 13:24 Nerotic destiny rules 13:24 Jordach U WOT M8 13:24 sfan5 kaeza: cats + more cats = awesome 13:24 Jordach gtfo console shill 13:24 sfan5 u wot 13:24 sfan5 !deop Jordach 13:25 Krock lol 13:25 sfan5 fite me 1v1 m8 13:25 sfan5 !deop Jordach 13:26 Nerotic brb this league match is getting intense 13:32 Krock rubberduck, missing technic dependencies? 13:33 kaeza sfan5, re: crosscompiling, it went OK, but now it needs libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll, libstdc++-6.dll, and libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll; any idea where to find those? 13:34 sfan5 kaeza: /usr//lib/ 13:34 kaeza hmm 13:35 sfan5 /usr/i686-mingw32/lib/libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll for me 13:35 kaeza and why isn't buildbot copying them into the package? 13:35 sfan5 because it doesn't know where they are? 13:36 kaeza kaeza@kaeza-pc:~$ ls /usr/i586-mingw32msvc/lib/libg 13:36 kaeza libgdi32.a libglaux.a libglu32.a libgmon.a 13:37 kaeza oh, here, /usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32msvc/4.2.1-sjlj/libgcc_sjlj_1.dll 13:38 rubberduck i think i will add recipe cooking instead and can be replaced by a grinding recipe, when technic installed, code has to be added in technic modpack then. i don't know how to do this else. 13:38 kaeza um, no, I don't think that's the one 13:38 * kaeza tests 13:38 sfan5 just do $ find /usr/ -inpath "i586-mingw32msvc" -and -name "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll" 13:39 sfan5 $ find /usr -path "*i586-mingw32msvc*" -and -name "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll" I mean 13:41 kaeza zero: https://gist.github.com/kaeza/79c68c16e047558f802f 13:42 iqualfragile_ !tell rubberduck https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder_recipes.lua 13:42 MinetestBot iqualfragile_: I'll pass that on when rubberduck is around 13:42 sfan5 kaeza: try just $ find /usr -name "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll" 13:43 kaeza nope 13:44 sfan5 hm 13:44 sfan5 I dunno 13:44 sfan5 maybe debian/ubuntu doesn't include this 13:44 sfan5 4.2.1 is old btw 13:44 kaeza well, no probs, I can always play inside the VM... using burningsvideo ;_; 13:44 sfan5 mingw32 is pretty easy to build from source 13:44 sfan5 ?? 13:45 sfan5 what are you trying to achieve? 13:45 kaeza trying to play latest git without having to depend on 3rd party builds? 13:45 sfan5 i see 13:46 kaeza Windows 7 host, running Ubuntu 12.04 guest (yes, I know) in VBox 13:47 sfan5 kaeza: was it "libgcc_s_sjlj-1.dll"? 13:48 sfan5 kaeza: cause thats in here: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/mingw-w64-gcc/ 13:48 sfan5 kaeza: suggestion: install arch and use the mingw from arch 13:49 sfan5 it's even up to date 13:49 kaeza will try 13:50 kaeza and yes: https://mediacru.sh/X8pLzYAJeRVW 13:54 Nerotic why does it say we must use mediacrush and pastie rather than imgur and pastebin? 13:55 Krock cuz speed and yolo 13:55 Nerotic ah 13:56 Nerotic was those sites made by people here? (never checked it out so idk) 14:03 Krock I guess no. 14:03 Nerotic ok 14:04 PenguinDad But what if I want to use sprunge.us? 14:05 Nerotic ooooo 14:06 PenguinDad noooo 14:06 Nerotic rebeldad 14:08 Krock better use spoil.er 14:09 PenguinDad Krock: ping: unknown host spoil.er 14:10 Nerotic rebeldad strikes again 14:10 PenguinDad lol 14:11 MinetestBot rubberduck: 10-04 13:42 UTC https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder_recipes.lua 14:12 rubberduck i checked this file before, but i was not able to get a working result out of it 14:16 PenguinDad rubberduck: any error message? 14:18 rubberduck i tried to use the method technic.register_grinder_recipe in my mod, it says that it does not know technic, any way to import this function from this modpack?? 14:20 kaeza rubberduck, did you add technic to `depends.txt`? 14:21 rubberduck no 14:21 kaeza there's your problem 14:21 Nerotic lolol 14:22 Krock 15:30 rubberduck, missing technic dependencies? 14:23 Krock and now is... 16:21 14:23 * kaeza pets Krock 14:23 Nerotic lolol 14:23 Krock ololo 14:23 Krock :) 14:24 PenguinDad rubberduck: did you add technic? to your depends.txt? 14:24 Nerotic if he is missing dependencies, he should always check depends.txt if the mod is there 14:25 rubberduck yes, but it is still not working, how can i post the error message without bloating the message to much?? 14:26 Nerotic pastie 14:26 Nerotic .org 14:28 rubberduck http://pastie.org/9620038, i have used the names from the items as input/output value 14:29 Nerotic lol 14:30 Nerotic reinstall technic 14:30 Nerotic actually 14:30 Nerotic put a new builtin in, and a new copy of technic 14:30 Nerotic theres error in the code 14:32 rubberduck do i need the newest version from source, or is the zip package from the forum topic ok too?? 14:33 Nerotic what version of the game are you using? 14:33 Nerotic 0.4.10? 14:33 Nerotic if so, get that version lol 14:34 rubberduck yes, the newest dev 14:34 Nerotic ok 14:48 rubberduck it works now 14:49 rubberduck i needed to add a table with input and output, then the function used the data from this table 14:54 rubberduck i added another way to craft a nyan cat/nyan cat rainbow 14:54 shadowzone Cool. 14:54 shadowzone Is it cheaper? 14:57 rubberduck a bit, but it needs more steps than the way of gloopblocks 14:58 iqualfragile shadowzone: you should try this: http://what-if.xkcd.com/112/ 14:59 shadowzone I see a sarlacc from star wars. 15:00 rubberduck i added colored meseblocks and a rainbow mese block, you can grind the rainbow mese block and then you can use the output to craft a raw nyan cat, which you can cook into a normal nyan cat block 15:00 blaise hrmm 15:00 blaise my power keeps dimming, and going in and out.. 15:00 zat what are nyancats for onyway 15:01 blaise good thing I have all these UPS devices 15:01 PenguinDad zat: they are decorative 15:01 blaise PenguinDad: have you seen what happends when you put a nyan cat in the grinder ? 15:02 PenguinDad It dies :'( 15:02 blaise really? I was just curious.. 15:02 zat lol 15:02 blaise now I kinda wanna try it and see what happeneds 15:02 rubberduck the nyan cat rainbow needs less material, but you need a lot more steps to get one, you need a nyan cat block and some mese rainbow dye (output of grinder) 15:08 rubberduck i want to make my colored mese blocks work with the colormachine mod, where should be the code for that (in my mod or in the colormachine mod)??? 15:09 rickmcfarley zat: I believe nyan cat nodes are resistant to radioactivity from the radioactive materials in the technic mod 15:09 rubberduck =-O 15:11 andre_pl is there a way to send fake nodes to just one player? like a 'preview' of a building that's not really there. 15:12 PenguinDad andre_pl: that isn't possible 15:12 bjrohan_ VanessaE: Is there a way for me to make a 90 degree white lined asphalt, where the line is in the middle of the block use streetmod items? 15:12 VanessaE I don't think so 15:13 bjrohan_ Would it be easy for you to add a solid white line, just as you have the solid yellow line? Laying thos down at 90 degrees gives the same effect 15:13 andre_pl PenguinDad: darn, thanks. 15:14 Nerotic Anyone here interested in contributing to a fork of mine? 15:14 VanessaE bjrohan_: adding a new node for the purpose is easy enough. ask webdesigner97. it's his mod. :) 15:14 bjrohan_ Ah, ok :-) 15:17 PenguinDad Nerotic: If there's a knife bundle with the fork maybe :P 15:18 Nerotic knife bundle? 15:18 rubberduck i added a "?" to the technic dependency, now i can use the same recipe when technic not installed except that i use cooking then 15:18 PenguinDad *bundled 15:18 Nerotic confused 15:18 Nerotic knife bundled? 15:19 bjrohan_ VanessaE: is it best to post to the mod thread, or to wendesigner97 directly? 15:19 VanessaE post on the mod thread 15:20 VanessaE damn 15:20 VanessaE you don't waste any time do you 15:20 VanessaE :) 15:21 bjrohan_ If I waited I just may forget 15:25 rubberduck what is the license of the mese block texture, i can't find anything in the readme file 15:25 VanessaE rubberduck: cc-by-sa 3.0 15:25 VanessaE I believe 15:26 rubberduck ok 15:26 VanessaE unless it's otherwise states, afaik all minetest_game textures are this 15:30 Brains VanessaE: Is there any obvious downside to checking to see if luaentity.entities is non-nil before looping over it? (Pipeworks, luaentity.lua, write_entities function) 15:31 Nerotic http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14%t=10288 15:31 VanessaE Brains: ask nore :) 15:31 Nerotic replace the % with & 15:31 VanessaE he maintains that code 15:31 Nerotic *http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10288 15:32 nore hm? 15:32 nore write_entities should only be called at shutdown 15:33 nore so at that times, the entities table should exist 15:33 nore Brains, ^ 15:34 Brains nore: I got the error trying to do a migrate from leveldb to redis. I threw in a simple check for nil there and managed to get ~20% of the blocks completed before it died again. (Haven't looked into that quite yet, no simple error message and I've run out of time.) 15:34 VanessaE oh that 15:34 rubberduck the license of the textures for unified dies is a bit unclear, the license file says GPL 2.0, the readme file says CC-by-SA 3.0 15:34 VanessaE engine bug. 15:34 rubberduck oops, dyes not dies 15:34 VanessaE rubberduck: one second... 15:34 VanessaE Brains: that's an engine bug 15:35 Brains VanessaE: Which part? 15:35 rubberduck it says bucket textures, but dyes are no buckets! 15:36 VanessaE rubberduck: ahh, that's old. ignore that then 15:36 rubberduck ok 15:36 VanessaE I'll fix the text. 15:38 Brains Nerotic: Er, which obvious part did I miss? I mean, I even attempted a local patch with the obvious fix before asking about... (The only reference I came across that seemed like it was an engine bug issue that was apparently related to luajit which this server isn't using...) 15:38 VanessaE Brains: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1667 15:39 Nerotic i wasnt paying attention, whats the problem brains? 15:39 VanessaE no wait, that might be the wrong one 15:40 VanessaE ok then I'm not sure what it is :) 15:40 Brains VanessaE: That was the closest issue I could find to mine but if ShadowNinja is right about it being luajit related, then it doesn't apply to this situation. 15:41 * Brains makes a note to go back later and see if luajit might be a good idea for his server. 15:41 VanessaE hm, I know for sure someone else had a redis-related issue here also 15:41 Nerotic dude 15:41 VanessaE yes, luajit is always a good idea 15:41 Nerotic luajit 15:41 VanessaE always use it :) 15:42 Nerotic ^ 15:42 * Brains just used the defaults for his initial setup. He's going back and tinkering with it now. =:P 15:42 Brains Hence the redis thing... 15:42 Nerotic lol 15:43 Brains Adding that check for nil got me down to this before it died again: 15:43 Brains 11:25:34: ACTION[main]: Migrated 67500 blocks 20.2935% completed 15:43 Brains 11:25:35: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Failed to store block in Database 15:43 * Brains preferred the earlier error, it had things to easily track down. 15:46 Brains Hrm. minetestserver apparently never contacted the redis server... (I was just verifying that the redis server was up and working. Noticed the previous log entries to my test was when it was brought up days ago.) 15:47 * Brains has to split, back to play with it later. "Thanks, VanessaE, nore" 15:47 VanessaE good luck 15:48 shadowzone Bye. 15:48 shadowzone Hi VanessaE, how are you? 15:50 VanessaE oh I'm fine :) 15:53 shadowzone Ok I'm gonna go. 15:53 Calinou hi 15:53 shadowzone Recording on MT-Nostalgia so I'm gonna go. 15:53 shadowzone BYE! 15:53 iqualfragile Brains: carefull with luajit, large pipework constructions make it not load 15:54 Brains iqualfragile: Ballpark for "large"? 15:54 iqualfragile Brains: reachable large 15:54 iqualfragile reachable without cheating 15:56 * Brains pulled down all his tubes in case that was the problem with the migration, didn't seem to make a difference. He'd been meaning to redo his centrifuge setup anyways... 15:56 Brains I don't think I'd used more than 20 or 30 tubes total though. Couple of sorters, couple of teleports, and then tubes to connect. 15:56 nore iqualfragile, actually it is large number of items in tubes at once 15:57 iqualfragile nore: ah, yes 15:57 nore (I'd like to know how large it is, though) 15:57 iqualfragile would be nice to have some tubes that do not show the items 15:57 iqualfragile or make that a setting 15:57 iqualfragile nore: well, it crashed on me, i made a bug report somewhere 15:57 nore oh, right now the items don't show up if players are not nearby 15:58 nore (you can change that somewhere in the code if you want) 15:58 Brains Does that include forceloaded but not player-adjacent? 15:58 iqualfragile https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/issues/75 15:58 nore Brains, they don't show up there either 15:58 iqualfragile 65536 15:58 nore the problem is with storing the items 15:59 nore (nope, that's 65536 constants, so 65536/n items, with n a number I don't know) 16:00 * Brains ponders how upset his 7 year old would be if he just reset the world and went redis from scratch... Best not to think too much about that.... 16:00 iqualfragile Brains: why would you need to do that, isn't there a migrate switch for minetestserver? 16:02 Brains iqualfragile: The problem I was having was that the migration from leveldb to redis was failing... Initially due to a call to pairs on luaentity.entities failing due to .entities being nil. Adding a check for that got me to ~20% converted before faiing to store to the database. 16:25 Krock In germany, you can food food in a town called food. 16:27 shadowzone o.O 16:27 shadowzone How do you food food in a town called food? 16:28 cities So shadowzone what goes on in the inchra server 16:29 shadowzone Not much. 16:29 shadowzone To be honest it's mostly drama with all the girls there. 16:36 cities Oh drama 16:36 shadowzone Yep. 16:38 Krock shadowzone, the german word for food is "essen", that's also a town name 16:38 shadowzone Oh. 16:46 iqualfragile ja, ja Essen essen in Essen 16:46 Krock ^^ 17:06 Megaf kilbith: Theres a French guy in my server 17:06 Megaf and je ne parle pas francais! 17:07 kaeza Krock, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1715#issuecomment-57908372 17:07 Krock kaeza, I saw it. trying now since 30 minutes to amend my changes to the lastest commit 17:08 kaeza k 17:08 Krock seems like I have to make a 2nd commitif that won't work 17:09 kaeza why not `git reset --hard `, then redo it? 17:09 Krock hmm I'll try that one 17:10 kaeza amending, rebasing, etc, is probably going to take more time than simply re-writing it from scratch 17:11 * sfan5 meows at kaeza 17:11 * kaeza meows back at sfan5 17:11 kilbith Megaf: sorry, was afk 17:12 kilbith Megaf : compilation failed, OpenGL ES not recognized :( 17:12 Megaf he stil there 17:12 kaeza sfan5, apparently, passing -static-libgcc to gcc should remove the dependency on libgcc_whatever.dll, but I'm still trying to get cmake/make to pass it 17:13 sfan5 kaeza: -DCMAKE_LINKER_FLAGS="-static-libgcc" should work 17:13 kaeza oh, I forgot about CMAKE_LINKER_FLAGS 17:14 kaeza was using CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS 17:16 kilbith http://paste.debian.net/124480/ 17:16 kilbith fail with GLES 17:19 * Jordach meows at kaeza and sfan5 17:19 OldCoder ShadowNinja, around? I'd like to set up the first of the new world IRC channels 17:19 * kaeza meows back at Jordach 17:19 * sfan5 curls up to Jordach's lap 17:19 OldCoder Sokomine, I actually needed to merge the old and new defaults 17:19 kaeza yey, it's passing -static-libgcc to `gcc` in compilation stage 17:20 kaeza now to see if it passes it at link stage 17:21 Megaf kilbith: dont you want to play minetest now? :) 17:21 Megaf theres a lonely French guy there 17:22 kilbith my presence is needed ? 17:23 Krock kaeza, now I reset the branch to upstream -> "Already up-to-date" (hard) and still get the same fail when trying to commit without amend 17:23 Megaf well, is up to you kilbith, theres a lonely French guy there and no one online speaks French 17:23 Megaf his name is "didi" 17:24 kaeza Krock, what is the error? 17:24 kilbith a french player is not something rare... 17:24 ShadowNinja OldCoder: Yes, I'm here. 17:24 kilbith Megaf: I have to switch of computer to play MT, too lazy actually 17:24 Krock kaeza: Updates were rejected because the tip of your current branch is behind its remote counterpart. Integrate the remote changes (e.g. 'git pull ...') before pushing again. 17:25 Krock but it's on the newest commit 17:25 OldCoder ShadowNinja, PM please regarding details 17:26 Krock (already did git.exe pull -v --progress "upstream" master 17:26 Krock ) 17:27 Krock \o/ --force-with-lease helped 17:51 kaeza Krock, it should be nested[v], not nested[k], otherwise, you cannot copy tables with similar keys 17:51 kaeza (only if type(v) is table) 17:52 kaeza see how dump() is implemented 17:56 Amaz Is there a way to make falling nodes fall via code? So you don't have to dig them. 17:57 hisforever I have a problen I put down a sofa and need to move it but I can't move it or delete it? 17:58 hisforever any tips? 17:58 Brains VanessaE, nore: Heh, remember how I asked if checking for nil had any obvious downsides? I think it turns out that it does... Was taking a bit of lunch and fired up the world (the one I'd been trying to migrate, but still as leveldb) but the server crashes. Wee.... 17:58 * Brains goes back to accomplishing things. 18:02 Krock kaeza, sorry. I don't get what you mean. Could you write a short gist? 18:04 hisforever ok I have a sofa that I can't remove I've tryed hachet and a pic and it is still there 18:04 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1697#issuecomment-57692540 18:04 Calinou Megaf, someone's not blocking Admin names 18:05 hisforever single pleaer 18:05 hisforever player 18:05 kaeza Krock, https://gist.github.com/kaeza/ba0b458b430d353dd6f0 18:06 Megaf lol Calinou 18:06 Calinou hisforever, what mods do you use? homedecor? 18:07 hisforever dreambuilders 18:08 Krock kaeza, and seen[v] = true is set after "if type(v.."? 18:08 VanessaE hisforever: use worldedit to remove it 18:08 kaeza oh yes 18:08 kaeza Krock, actually, gimme a few mins and I'll give you a table copy that keeps refs 18:08 VanessaE (normally any ordinary axe or pick will do, or even remove by hand) 18:08 Krock kaeza, that keeps the refs? interesting 18:09 hisforever you mean /worldedtit Vanessa? 18:10 VanessaE hisforever: I mean the worldedit mod. 18:10 VanessaE when you can't dig something, use worldedit. 18:10 VanessaE it's part of dreambuilder 18:10 VanessaE //p set 18:11 VanessaE then punch two corners around the node 18:11 VanessaE you will see a checkered box surround it 18:11 VanessaE then do //set air 18:11 VanessaE the node will disappear 18:11 VanessaE then do //reset 18:11 hisforever ok ty 18:11 VanessaE the checkered box will disappear 18:11 VanessaE be careful when you //set air 18:12 VanessaE make sure only the region you want to delete is enclosed by the checkered box :) 18:12 VanessaE if it's not right, just do //p set and punch two corners again 18:12 VanessaE btw, update your dreambuilder, the latest plantlife is in there and it's much less laggy now 18:13 VanessaE (if you haven't updated since say, last week) 18:13 hisforever sorry how do I get into this worldedit? 18:14 kaeza Krock, https://gist.github.com/kaeza/ba0b458b430d353dd6f0 18:15 VanessaE hisforever: just type those commands and watch your chat console at the top of the screen 18:15 Krock kaeza, neat. thank you! 18:15 kaeza sure 18:15 VanessaE hisforever: type: //p set 18:16 VanessaE hisforever: then punch two nodes that are diagonally adjacent to and opposite sides of the couch you need to delete 18:16 VanessaE hisforever: then you will see a checkered box appear surrounding the couch. type: //set air and then //reset 18:16 VanessaE the couch will disappear and then the checkered box will disappear. 18:16 hisforever ok ty 18:20 hisforever ok I typed /p set and I get an invalad comand 18:20 VanessaE two slashes. 18:21 VanessaE //p set 18:21 VanessaE same for the //set air command and //reset 18:21 hisforever is there a page I can ggo to for these comands Vaness 18:22 VanessaE hisforever: yes, you could look here, but it would be way too much info I think: https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/blob/master/Chat%20Commands.md 18:22 VanessaE every command supported by worldedit should be listed there. 18:22 hisforever ok ty I'll go there 18:24 kaeza Krock, sorry, I corrected the gist a second after pasting the link here, it should be seen[v], not seen[otable] 18:24 kaeza (ntable[k] = seen[v]) 18:25 Krock kaeza, and "if seen[otable] then" would be always true... 18:25 kaeza that too 18:25 kaeza if seen[v] then ... 18:25 kaeza the first one, seet[otable] = nt is OK 18:25 kaeza seen* 18:26 Krock :D I was able to commit without an error message (using amend) 18:26 kaeza :D 18:27 Sokomine OldCoder: why merge new defaults? why did you need to, and what did you change? 18:29 Sokomine btw, anyone having a good idea how to handle mirroring/flipping of a building? normal nodes are no problem; nodeboxes are a diffrent matter...those cannot always be mirrored 18:29 OldCoder Sokomine, because the world has blocks from both the old and the new defaults! 18:29 OldCoder Both 18:46 Sokomine OldCoder: which blocks in particular? there ought to be none such blocks 18:52 hisforever Vanessa I did it all and it deleted the floor, its acting like the couch is not there. I can't //pset the couch I hops this makes sence lol 18:55 VanessaE you were supposed to make the select box enclose the couch :) 18:56 VanessaE that means selecting something *above* it as well as below it :) 18:56 hisforever I did 18:56 VanessaE nope, you selected only the floor :) 18:56 VanessaE you must have gone to one side, then the other but you didn't go up above the couch when you selected the second corner. 18:57 hisforever ok I'll try it again 18:57 VanessaE try again, don't be afraid of erasing more floor - you can always rebuild it later 18:57 VanessaE or put some dirt down and select that 18:57 hisforever I think I understand brb 18:57 VanessaE ok 19:02 ThatGraemeGuy VanessaE: are the apple trees in dreambuilder meant to drop saplings? 19:03 VanessaE ThatGraemeGuy: they should, yes. Don't they? 19:03 ThatGraemeGuy oh wait 19:03 VanessaE their drop ratio is very low 19:03 ThatGraemeGuy there appear to be 2 type of apple tree 19:03 hisforever Ty Vanessa sorry I'm slow at getting things but it did get rid of it 19:03 VanessaE hisforever: ok no worries. btw how DID you end up with half a couch anyway? 19:04 VanessaE ThatGraemeGuy: there's only one type of apple tree these days, but if your world has been around for more than a few months, you will see some of the older apple trees also 19:04 VanessaE as far as I know anyway 19:04 hisforever don't know 19:05 ThatGraemeGuy i'm on your survival server 19:06 ThatGraemeGuy ah there we go 19:06 ThatGraemeGuy suddenly 2 saplings, go figure 19:07 ThatGraemeGuy and i have a lava source that doesn't want to play nice 19:07 ThatGraemeGuy i.e. won't flow nicely in my pumice-making setup 19:20 OldCoder Sokomine, I'll need to diff. There were several. But lots of things are fixed now. And there is an IRC channel for the world. 19:20 OldCoder Location is in the news file on join 19:20 OldCoder VanessaE, most issues are now fixed; come and see the cool world 19:20 OldCoder 19:21 OldCoder ANNOUNCE: SilverCrab is up and mostly repaired. Server is minetest.org and port is 30019 19:21 OldCoder 19:21 OldCoder IRC channel for SilverCrab is announced when you join the world 19:21 OldCoder 19:21 PenguinDad https://kentonv.github.io/capnproto/ rofl 19:21 OldCoder Sokomine, I want to revive the buggy world we discussed; the one where you had a little house 19:22 _Estenan quit 19:22 * _Estenan facepalms 19:24 Jordach lel 19:25 _Esteban x) 19:26 _Esteban why u dislike norton? 19:27 Jordach because overprotective spyware 19:28 _Esteban Oh 19:29 _Esteban yeah, I only had one incident like that with the sprite editor, at least has a restore option :P 19:32 Jordach (if anyone asks, i am working on a multidoor system for BFD) 19:33 Calinou >2014 >antivirus 19:33 Krock silvercrab? 19:33 Calinou OldCoder, joining… 19:33 Calinou Krock, redcrab's server continuation 19:33 Calinou but I can't connect apparently 19:33 Krock Calinou, so, in old 0.3.1 style or what? 19:34 PenguinDad Krock: more like 0.4.4 style 19:34 Krock ...that's what I mean 19:35 PenguinDad 0.4.4 was also my first minetest version 19:36 _Esteban mine was a 4.6-dev and my username was completelydifferent! 19:36 Amaz Same here, PenguinDad! 19:38 Calinou 0.4.3, even 19:38 Calinou I can connect now 19:39 kaeza Mine was 0.4.3. I remember the great transition to 3D models :D 19:42 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 19:42 * Jordach sits there waiting for minetest.org 30019 19:42 sfan5 Jordach: can you explain why nearly everyone in /r/pcmasterrace is installing Windows 10 without reading the part of the EULA that says they monitor everything you do? 19:43 PenguinDad Stupidity! 19:43 * PenguinDad hides 19:43 * sfan5 curls up to PenguinDad's lap 19:43 Jordach sfan5, i don't know 19:44 * Nerotic pushes sfan5 off rebeldads lap, and gets on 19:44 * sfan5 meows at Nerotic 19:44 _Esteban what are the new features in the new windows? 19:44 * sfan5 throws around with cats 19:44 _Esteban this gaming peasant does not have a decent pc for gaming 19:44 * Nerotic hisses at sfan5 19:44 sfan5 _Esteban: better windows (not even joking) 19:45 Jordach "You don't need a top-of-the-line gaming PC to be a member of the Master Race. You don't even need to own a PC. You just have to recognize that PC is objectively superior to consoles in every way possible as explained here!" 19:45 * sfan5 purrs at Nerotic 19:45 sfan5 Jordach: what about laptops? 19:45 Jordach "You don't need a top-of-the-line gaming PC to be a member of the Master Race. You don't even need to own a PC. You just have to recognize that PC is objectively superior to consoles in every way possible as explained here!" 19:45 Jordach read again 19:45 sfan5 I'm aware 19:45 sfan5 but what do "they" think about laptops 19:45 Calinou Jordach: can you explain why nearly everyone in /r/pcmasterrace is installing Windows 10 without reading the part of the EULA that says they monitor everything you do? 19:45 Calinou do you have proof? 19:45 Calinou the EULA has always been laughably bad 19:45 * Nerotic trills at sfan5 19:45 Jordach Calinou, go check yourself you Linux using skrub 19:46 sfan5 Calinou: do you want a screenshot? 19:46 Calinou well… or just a link to the EULA itself 19:46 Calinou do it 19:46 sfan5 !g windows 10 tp eula 19:46 MinetestBot sfan5: http://windowsitpro.com/ 19:46 sfan5 no 19:46 sfan5 !g windows 10 tp download 19:46 MinetestBot sfan5: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-iso 19:47 sfan5 Calinou: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/preview-privacy-statement 19:47 sfan5 Calinou: "enter text, we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving autocomplete and spellcheck features." 19:47 Calinou technical preview only 19:47 sfan5 yeah 19:48 Calinou sfan5, but only in search fields? 19:48 sfan5 we're talking about that 19:48 Calinou they already do that on Windows 8 when you search something 19:48 Calinou (can be disabled) 19:48 sfan5 no 19:48 sfan5 not only search fields 19:48 sfan5 everywhere 19:48 Calinou also, /etc/hosts to the rescue :P 19:48 sfan5 as if that would help 19:48 sfan5 no network adapter to the rescue 19:48 Nerotic we still talking about windows :/ 19:49 Calinou why wouldn't it help? 19:52 Krock windows exist to open and close 19:54 _Esteban http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/55002413.jpg 19:54 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzExIKnVrzI 19:54 Jordach top kek 19:54 sfan5 !title 19:54 MinetestBot sfan5: Angry Dews (MLG) - YouTube 19:55 * Jordach returns to Super Smash 3DS 19:55 sfan5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DltFjg20NVs 19:55 sfan5 ^ Jordach 19:55 Jordach u fuckin wot m9 20:03 PenguinDad Jordach: Sir you made me rofl 20:03 _Esteban ^ so do I! x) 20:03 _Esteban cya guys! 20:04 * Brains passes by and mentions that his trouble before did stem from his modification to luaentities.lua... He didn't wrap the write to file in the check so it blew away the luaentities file (just contained "return nil") and that crashes the server. 20:05 * Krock gives PenguinDad Brains 20:05 PenguinDad eee​w 20:15 PenguinDad Did MLG invade the internet within one week? O_O 20:18 iqualfragile PenguinDad: wat is MLG? 20:21 Krock my little game 20:34 ShadowNinja Sokomine: It seems like OC has an old version of your redcrab map without my house, can you make a .we of it? 20:35 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Or upload a newer DB and he can merge them. 20:37 Krock Sokomine, I can't download the complete redcrab map. the server closes the connection at 21 MB 20:38 Sokomine Krock: please talk to erthome about that. the map is hosted on his server 20:38 Krock Sokomine, how can I reach him/her? 20:38 Sokomine ShadowNinja: another player has gathered map data automaticly. perhaps he can help 20:39 Sokomine Krock: forum might work 20:56 OldCoder Krock, Sokomine what is the link? 20:56 Krock OldCoder, https://onehorseworld.com/minetest/Redcrab.zip 20:57 OldCoder Krock, let me try 20:57 OldCoder Moment more 20:58 OldCoder I got it. Sokomine does this copy have ShadowNinja house? 20:59 OldCoder Krock, did you want this ZIP file? 20:59 Krock OldCoder, yeah. the server broke the connetio after a while 20:59 Krock *connection 20:59 OldCoder Hm 20:59 OldCoder I think this copy is older than mine 20:59 Krock you've got one, too? 21:00 OldCoder I'm running the world right now 21:00 OldCoder All repaired etc. 21:00 Krock uuuuh 21:00 OldCoder server minetest.org port 30019 21:00 OldCoder Might be better for your purposes 21:00 OldCoder The linked one is from Fall 2013 21:00 OldCoder I think mine postdated that but not sure 21:01 Krock *tries to join* 21:07 OldCoder iqualfragile, Hi 21:07 OldCoder Sokomine, Krock notes that travelnets are corrupted. Should I remove them pending new ones? 21:07 * OldCoder is resting for a bit 21:07 iqualfragile hello OldCoder 21:08 iqualfragile RealBadAngel: i think https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder.lua should be merged with https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder_recipes.lua 21:08 iqualfragile correction: merged with https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder.lua 21:16 MichaelEh :waves 21:35 MichaelEh tries to get MCEdit to work to extract MC data 21:36 Sokomine OldCoder: hmm. disabling them for now might actually help a bit. perhaps i ought to teach them to recover... 21:37 Sokomine MichaelEh: talk to sfan5. mc data may under some circumstances be converted more directly 21:37 MichaelEh trying to get this (Big Sight) to convert http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/japan--tokyo-big-sight--comic-market1710/ 21:39 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: machines/register/grinder.lua should be merged with itself? 21:40 iqualfragile ShadowNinja: yes! thats absolutely what i was trying to say... let me try again, maybe this time i won't mix up the links 21:40 hisforever is dreambuilders flat thats all I see? 21:40 iqualfragile ShadowNinja/RealBadAngel: https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/LV/grinder.lua and https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/register/grinder.lua should be merged 21:43 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: Nah, register/ is supposed to be completely tier-independent. The tier subfolders include the registrations for the machines. This means that con can cmpletely remove all eg, HV, machines by just removing one line from machines/init.lua. 21:43 ShadowNinja that you can completely* 21:48 iqualfragile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YBumQHPAeU 21:49 Jordach Is the real world anti-aliased or aliased. Discuss. 21:50 rickmcfarley lol 21:51 PilzAdam Jordach, what do you mean by aliased? as in signals being aliased, or as in memory being aliased? 21:56 Jordach PilzAdam, like how Minetest's entities, blocks and tools can have smooth edges and not a hard edge 22:05 OldCoder Sokomine, should I remove travelnet and delete blocks? 22:09 iqualfragile hello shadowzone 22:09 shadowzone hi. 22:10 iqualfragile why do you put dots behind single words? 22:10 shadowzone I dunno. 22:11 PenguinDad iqualfragile: I. am. not. sure. why. you. ask. that. :P 22:12 iqualfragile … 22:12 iqualfragile thanks to unicode that was a single char 22:15 iqualfragile im not too sure, but it seems to me that the minecraft-takeover actually led to more people hanging around in #minetest 22:15 iqualfragile sfan5 has stats, i think 22:15 shadowzone Hmm. 22:15 shadowzone I think you may be right. 22:16 shadowzone I believe there are 154 users. 22:18 PenguinDad shadowzone: sorry there are only 149 real people in this channel 22:18 iqualfragile ShadowNinja: now 152, but yes 22:18 shadowzone Really? 22:18 iqualfragile which one is the bot? 22:18 iqualfragile (well, besides chanserv and minetestbot) 22:19 shadowzone HLuaBot? 22:19 * PenguinDad just noticed that HLuaBot isn't here 22:19 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: "Now 152"? 22:19 shadowzone Which used to me here. 22:19 ShadowNinja Oh, NVM. 22:19 shadowzone My question is. 22:19 shadowzone What's the most you've ever seen on this channel only? 22:20 iqualfragile 160+ 22:20 iqualfragile sfan5: gib stats 22:20 ShadowNinja This channel used to max out at about 100. It gets to 160 or so now. 22:20 shadowzone Wow. 22:21 * PenguinDad quickscopes the stats :> 22:31 oOChainLynxOo Afk 22:31 shadowzone oOChainLynxOo, you gonna join the other #minetest? 22:31 cg72 no 22:31 shadowzone :( 22:31 shadowzone I want to tell him to check steam. 22:31 cg72 what the hell is steam? 22:31 shadowzone Look it up. 22:32 shadowzone It's gaming software. 22:33 PenguinDad Steam or something I never got running on linux 22:33 shadowzone http://store.steampowered.com/ 22:33 cities I'm gonna check out the other minetest at some point shadowzone 22:33 cities Soon as I get a shell 22:33 cities And connect more than two networks 22:33 shadowzone I got it running on my PC running linux. 22:33 cities Passat 22:34 shadowzone I got it from the software manager. 22:36 oOChainLynxOo Back 22:37 shadowzone oOChainLynxOo, go check your steam. 23:08 hisforever In dreambuilders is there a way to make the land less flat? 23:09 hisforever the train needs to be morw mountainus 23:09 hisforever more 23:28 Sokomine OldCoder: wait a moment. i'm doing an update for travelnet 23:30 hisforever hot much chatter tonight 23:32 shadowzone Nope.