Time Nick Message 00:00 shadowzone !up midnightsystems.net 00:00 MinetestBot midnightsystems.net:30000 is up (312ms) 00:00 * OldCoder imagines VanessaE plants racing over the landscape and covering everything in a blink of an eye 00:00 shadowzone We might even have to make a lawn mower mod. 00:00 EvergreenTree Jordan4ibanez: you managed to compile ror? 00:00 EvergreenTree HOW? 00:01 EvergreenTree I have been madly hacking away at the source code to try to get it to work 00:01 shadowzone And hope someone can make it work. 00:01 Jordan4ibanez No I used the ppa 00:02 Jordan4ibanez And red eclipse http://youtu.be/gTgf3ccr98Q 00:02 Wuzzy2 Minetest reports this error: “Irrlicht log: Could not load texture:”. But the log does not say which texture. :-( 00:02 VanessaE OldCoder: you got the guts to test? :) 00:02 Wuzzy2 This appeard to me while working on my world/subgame. 00:02 Wuzzy2 Question is: How do I find out of which texture Irrlicht/Minetest complains about? 00:03 EvergreenTree Jordan4ibanez: the ppa doesn't work 00:03 shadowzone What is ror? 00:03 VanessaE OldCoder: Update to the latest git of plantlife, switch to the `deferred-generate` branch therein, and try it out on a new world. But beware: [09-28 05:00] it might create black holes, open tunnels to alternate universes, or cause innocent kittens to suffer! 00:03 shadowzone XD 00:04 EvergreenTree shadowzone: RigsofRods 00:04 VanessaE (translation: I am not 100% convinced that it's safe to run on a production server yet) 00:04 shadowzone Oh okay. 00:04 EvergreenTree The most uncompilable thing ON LINUX 00:04 EvergreenTree I have nearly gotten it to work before 00:04 OldCoder VanessaE, I'm not running test worlds right now, I'll wait a bit 00:05 Jordan4ibanez It did at one point 00:05 VanessaE awesomess3: why minetest and not physics et al.? because I do what I understand. and physics, I only have a superficial understanding of. 00:05 VanessaE OldCoder: singleplayer then 00:05 OldCoder I'm testing an editor on a world by Cylus though; might unleash VanessaE deathplants there 00:05 OldCoder Can't for a couple of days, might need to take a short trip 00:05 OldCoder But will review when I can 00:08 awesomess3 Jordan4ibanez, sweet! I watched the first 2 minutes. Which mods do you use for minetest 0.4.10 on single player? or do you use single player? 00:08 VanessaE OldCoder: ok. with a little luck, by the time you return, the new code will be in the master branch 00:08 OldCoder we will see 00:08 OldCoder VanessaE, good luck with your speedy deathplants 00:08 OldCoder They sound interesting 00:09 Jordan4ibanez I actually make my own mods right now, I haven't really tried any new mods lately 00:10 shadowzone I've made 4 mods. 00:10 shadowzone None of which work properly, I am only 12 so what can you expect? 00:10 awesomess3 I wish I was 12 again. Make better programming friends. 00:11 shadowzone XD 00:11 shadowzone How old are you? 00:11 awesomess3 27 00:11 shadowzone Oh. 00:11 OldCoder awesomess3, you are permitted friends at your ancient age 00:11 OldCoder So old 00:12 OldCoder Where did the centuries go 00:12 shadowzone XD 00:12 OldCoder Bouncing great great grandchildren on one's knees 00:12 * shadowzone high fives OldCoder 00:12 OldCoder aeons 00:12 OldCoder like grains of sand on the beach 00:12 awesomess3 idk :/ :( :| :/ :) 00:12 OldCoder o/ 00:12 OldCoder <- He knows ancient 00:12 OldCoder When I was 27 you weren't born :P 00:13 shadowzone You are 50something? 00:13 OldCoder I am a lively spring chicken 00:13 OldCoder There are millenia ahead 00:13 OldCoder millennia * 00:13 shadowzone A 50 yo playing minetest???? (I don't actually know how old you are) 00:13 OldCoder I run it more than I play it 00:14 shadowzone Oh okay. 00:14 OldCoder Actually I like to patch it 00:14 OldCoder But I'd play it more if I had more of a feeling for design 00:14 shadowzone I need to quit drinking pop in 5 seconds flat. 00:14 shadowzone I got the hiccups. 00:14 OldCoder I don't see it as a kids' game 00:14 OldCoder Hm 00:14 OldCoder Something about blowing into a paper bag? 00:14 * shadowzone throws a brick at her brother 00:14 Batman I am 40 and Max is 44 00:14 OldCoder That is not a hiccup cure 00:15 OldCoder Batman, very well 00:15 OldCoder Who is Max? 00:15 shadowzone My dog? 00:15 OldCoder Max is 44 00:15 OldCoder In dog years? 00:15 shadowzone No. 00:15 * OldCoder has lost track 00:15 Batman Max runs GoldRush 00:15 shadowzone It's another player, idk. 00:15 OldCoder Ah 00:15 OldCoder Very well 00:15 OldCoder 40 is a sensible age 00:15 Batman I run MinetestVille now 00:16 OldCoder MineVille snappier 00:16 * shadowzone rages 00:16 Batman I wish I was sensable 00:16 OldCoder You are not? 00:16 shadowzone I hate trying to program and have a conversation with someone. 00:16 * shadowzone is afk 00:16 Batman no 00:16 OldCoder Surely one who dresses like a bat 00:16 Batman MinetestVille 00:16 OldCoder And frightens wrongdoers 00:16 OldCoder Ah 00:16 OldCoder What about it? 00:17 * OldCoder is still wondering about the 44 year old dog 00:17 Batman just saying its not mineville 00:17 OldCoder MinetestVille is fine 00:17 OldCoder It was a random thought 00:17 OldCoder Ancient folk have them 00:17 shadowzone THere is no 44 year old dog. 00:17 Batman ya we do 00:17 shadowzone That I know of. 00:18 OldCoder All right 00:18 Batman is Max a dog? 00:18 OldCoder But, now, is Max a dog? Says woof? 00:18 OldCoder Ninja 00:18 shadowzone No. 00:18 shadowzone idk 00:18 OldCoder I am 40 and Max is 44 00:18 OldCoder Batman, this would be your answer 00:18 * shadowzone runs around screaming "I DON'T KNOW WHO MAX THE 44 YEAR OLD DOG IS!!!" 00:19 OldCoder Context. Is Max an arithmetic function, a canine, a sibling, a random MT operator? 00:19 Batman random MT operator 00:19 shadowzone OldCoder, is it something about older people(I mean this in the nicest way possible) that makes me laugh? 00:20 OldCoder shadowzone, it is a question without an answer 00:20 Batman you laughing at me? 00:20 shadowzone Yep. 00:20 OldCoder A song that sings itself 00:20 shadowzone I laugh at almost anything though so... 00:20 OldCoder Do you enjoy laughter? 00:21 shadowzone Yep. 00:21 OldCoder All right 00:21 Batman supper time 00:22 Batman bye 00:22 shadowzone Enjoy your dinner. 00:22 shadowzone Bye. 00:22 OldCoder Say hello to Max 00:22 OldCoder Whatever he is 00:22 shadowzone XD 00:22 Batman lol 00:22 awesomess3 The 2.4.2 "Animal Modpack" github freeze gives me errors :( 00:22 OldCoder Errors happen 00:23 awesomess3 computers!!! wwwhhy computers wwwhhhhyyy 00:23 OldCoder "Why not", they say 00:24 awesomess3 "Die human! ddiiiiiie. never get what you want, perish with the silly logic that you use to try to apply to us and watch all of your precious needs prespire within the winds of death and helplessness." 00:24 VanessaE awesomess3: what errors do you get? 00:24 shadowzone I don't play minetest very much anymore. 00:24 OldCoder prespire? 00:24 shadowzone I code for it. 00:24 OldCoder shadowzone, good 00:24 * awesomess3 shrugs 00:24 awesomess3 VanessaE, I'll write them down, one moment 00:24 VanessaE awesomess3: use a pastebin 00:24 VanessaE just copy&paste your debug.txt 00:25 * shadowzone runs down the street screaming "I DIDN'T DO IT!!" 00:25 shadowzone I need to go to bed. 00:26 blaise I need to go pick my wife up from work 00:26 OldCoder blaise, she surely will not wish to wait 00:28 * shadowzone throws a brick at windows 8 00:28 awesomess3 VanessaE, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8451658/ 00:28 shadowzone Now hand me a seed of linux.. 00:28 shadowzone Even though I don't use windows. 00:29 VanessaE awesomess3: 00:27:09: ERROR[main]: mod "mobf" has unsatisfied dependencies: "adv_spawning" 00:29 VanessaE get this also, https://github.com/sapier/adv_spawning 00:36 awesomess3 VanessaE, omg animals everywhere yay 00:36 VanessaE :D 00:37 awesomess3 OMG a zombie killed me wtf this is suppose to be an animals mod 00:37 * shadowzone high fives VanessaE 00:38 awesomess3 :( 00:38 VanessaE awesomess3: it's called MOBF for a reason :) 00:38 shadowzone Another satisfied customer thanks to VanessaE. 00:38 VanessaE MOB Framework 00:38 * shadowzone high fives awesomess3 for being cooperative 00:38 VanessaE it got renamed long ago from "animals modpack" because it has a lot more than just animals :) 01:03 benedict42 Hello. 01:07 shadowzone Hi. 01:08 george I can't seem to get my mods into the game? 01:13 george I'm in Singleplayer mode and I put the mods into the right dir I see them when I go to opening screen to login, they even say installed but don't know how to access then I think 01:18 george Thanks for all your help today, its time for bed I have surgery on my little toe tomorrow God bless everyone 01:18 shadowzone Okay. 01:18 shadowzone Bye. 01:32 dm42 What would be the suggested/recommended mob mods to run on a small semi-private server? 01:34 dm42 Or - perhaps better - which should I shy away from? 01:49 kaeza too late 01:50 kaeza can't people stay for a week after asking a question?? geez 01:50 kaeza jeez or whatever 02:32 kaeza d'awww, such memories https://cdn.mediacru.sh/o7NbgUrea7DE.png 02:32 kaeza also, HexChat, don't crash on me this time pls 03:14 zat ...not having finite liquids so sux... 03:24 jordan4ibanez Time for a real books mod 03:25 jordan4ibanez I think people will be very happy after I release this, I just wish I could change the description 03:35 Miner_48er jordan4ibanez why can't you? 03:36 jordan4ibanez Because I can't find a way to change the stack description while the server is running 03:38 blaise lol 03:38 blaise totally got minetest running via x11 forwarding 03:38 blaise HAH 03:39 bjrohan What is the best mod for "pictures" you can put on "walls" 03:39 khonkhortisan vnc? 03:39 blaise no, xorg-server and ssh 03:47 blaise bjrohan: eh, homedecor has some nice ones.. 03:47 blaise it's not a wide selection though 03:47 blaise I'm kinda hoping we'll get one of those weird mapping device mods 03:49 blaise were theres a map of the surrounding area, on what would seem to be a table or tree stump? 03:51 blaise are we the play meintest ? 04:02 Cylus Deathplants, huh? What are those, VanessaE? 04:03 VanessaE Cylus: a joke by OldCoder :P 04:03 VanessaE Zeno has been testing that code and it's actually working quite well on his server so far. 04:04 Cylus Oh, that's too bad. About there not being deathplants, I mean. The fact that code is working is great. 04:05 Cylus Maybe *I* should build a deathplant mod .... 04:05 * Cylus begins drawing up plans for a factory that manufactures untimely demises 04:07 VanessaE well actually... 04:07 VanessaE there ARE poisonous mushrooms in plantlife :P 04:07 VanessaE though those are fungi, not plants :P 04:08 Cylus Hmm. Minetest is oddly lacking in the fungi department ... I'll have to look into that mod. 04:15 blaise Cylus: viri would be better 04:15 blaise polio, small pocks 04:15 blaise measles 04:15 Cylus blaise: Too small. 04:15 VanessaE smallpox* 04:16 doomtron ortonazis everywhere xD 04:45 jordan4ibanez Oh snap http://i.imgur.com/1oUjqwN.png 04:46 jordan4ibanez That was surprisingly easy 04:46 VanessaE nice 04:46 jordan4ibanez The only problem is, if you resize the window, the text goes away 04:47 jordan4ibanez Ohhh, that's just a bug with formspecs 04:58 bjrohan Are there any car mods that work with the MP streets? 04:59 VanessaE MP streets? 05:00 bjrohan That's the name of the folder in my mod folder 05:00 bjrohan I believe it is the one you are affiliated with VanessaE 05:01 VanessaE maybe you meant "streets modpack"? :) 05:01 VanessaE in which case, webdesigner97 made such a mod I think 05:02 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7459 05:02 VanessaE there it is 05:03 bjrohan VanessaE: yes, streets mod 07:03 Fritigern Poop... I just installed Penguindad's More Fences mod, but i don;t see any new fences in my inventory. I am certain that all the dependencies and recommends are satisfied. any idea what i can do to get this to work? 07:03 sol_invictus have you enabed it in world.mt? 07:04 Fritigern Yup! Also set up a singleplayer world where i have only that mod and its depends enabled, but no joy 07:06 Fritigern I deliberately went with the more fences mod by penguindad instead of the one by sfan5 because it's more recent. 07:18 Fritigern So, nobody has any wisdom to share? 07:23 Miner_48er Fritigern have you checked the debug for "More Fences loaded!" 07:24 Fritigern Yup! 07:24 Fritigern [moreores] loaded. 07:24 Fritigern More Fences loaded! 07:24 Fritigern [Bamboo] Loaded! etc..... 07:25 Miner_48er tried crafting them? 07:25 Fritigern I'm in creative mode. 07:25 Fritigern But i wil give it a go 07:26 Miner_48er /giveme morefences:cactus_fence 07:27 Fritigern "Cannot give an unknown utem" 07:28 Miner_48er did the crafting work? 07:29 Fritigern Well, i now have a cobble fence, but when i tried it with colored stone bricks nothing happened. So anyway, the receipe exists, but there is no entry in the creative inventory 07:29 Fritigern (hoping i got the terms right) 07:30 Miner_48er check the mod config file 07:32 Fritigern The config file for the mod itself? There is none 07:33 Miner_48er when did you download it? 07:35 Fritigern Today, from Github, got the archive, unzipped it, renamed the folder to more_fences and started up my (already modded) MT 07:36 Fritigern This is where i got it from https://github.com/PenguinDad/morefences 07:36 Miner_48er https://github.com/PenguinDad/morefences/blob/master/config.lua 07:36 Fritigern Well, yeah, that is a lua file. I don;t mess with that 07:37 khonkhortisan but it's named config 07:38 Fritigern Yes, and it's lua. So as far as i know, it is supposed to read a text file from somewhere, passing variables to different parts of the mod. 07:38 khonkhortisan and in almost the same format as minetest.conf 07:39 Fritigern So when you are done acting as if i am stupid, do you see anything in that file that would explain why no new fences show up in my creative inventory? 07:42 Miner_48er I see this line morefences.creative_inv = 1 07:42 Fritigern And 1 == true == enable, so it should show me fences. 07:42 khonkhortisan ngroups.not_in_creative_inventory = morefences.creative_inv 07:43 khonkhortisan it might be inverted 07:44 Fritigern If that's true, then penguindad needs to be kicked repeatedly. 07:44 Fritigern I'll give it a go 07:44 * khonkhortisan blames the mod writer as well 07:44 H-H-H hey friti have you got a min for a pm on a totally unrelated matter ? 07:44 khonkhortisan and also whoever originally named the not_in_creative_inventory variable 07:44 Fritigern Now i have morefences.creative_inv = 0 , starting MT 07:45 blaise lol 07:45 khonkhortisan booleans should be isAlive and isDead, instead of notDead and notAlive 07:46 Fritigern That var has a ridiculous name to begin with. Call it "exclude_from_creative_inventoy" if you have to have a var that excludes stuff 07:47 Fritigern SON OF A............ Someone find P-daddy and KICK HIM!!!! It is freaking inverted!!! 07:47 khonkhortisan the boolean was inverted before the mod got to it. It was just accidentally un-inverted. 07:48 * khonkhortisan hibernates 07:48 Fritigern That bool should not even exist. Everything, should be show in the CI, unless explicitly told not to. 09:20 Megaf_ Morning everyone 10:54 rickmcfarley Good morning from the east coast! 10:54 rickmcfarley of the us 10:59 speak Good morning Megaf & rickmcfarley 11:34 cities good morning 11:37 ninnghazad heho 11:59 MinetestForFun Hi everybody, someone can help me please ? i want change the "areas" mod, for 1100m2 max area and 6 areas per player, is it possible ? (i haven't found my answer in the forum and in the github repository of the mod) 11:59 * sfan5 looks 11:59 sfan5 hi everyone btw 12:00 jojoa1997 yello 12:00 MinetestForFun hello :) 12:00 sfan5 MinetestForFun: areas.self_protection_max_size = 1100, 1100, 1100 and areas.self_protection_max_areas = 6 12:02 jojoa1997 Linux Mint is cool, I just have to finish updating it and also Lubuntu, Xubuntu, and Ubuntu 12:02 jojoa1997 Too much work D: 12:03 sfan5 jojoa1997: do you even rolling-release distribution? 12:03 jojoa1997 Huh? 12:03 jojoa1997 sfan5: it is work for a research paper pretty much 12:03 Brains sfan5++ 12:23 Nekrodes hi everybody ;) 12:23 jp_ *everyone (bis) 12:25 Nekrodes sorry, everyone :) 12:25 jp_ you're french ? 12:25 Nekrodes nope, spanish :) 12:25 Nekrodes but living in France :p 12:26 jp_ noticed your 'ovh.fr' ;) 12:26 Nekrodes ;) 12:26 Nekrodes so I supose that you're french, jp_ :p 12:26 jp_ yup 12:26 Nekrodes you aren't in the french channel ;p 12:27 jp_ not enough ppl 12:27 Nekrodes I'm alone in the spanish one xD 12:27 Nekrodes but from time to time is good to speak in your mother tongue :) 12:28 ninnghazad even if it is just to yourself... 12:28 Nekrodes less translation lost errors :p 12:28 Nekrodes ninnghazad: I speak all the time with myself :p 12:28 ninnghazad dito, best conversationalist i know 12:28 ninnghazad great opinions 12:28 Nekrodes not all the time 12:28 jp_ I often laught with myself 12:29 jp_ self-joking 12:29 * jp_ goes to take his pills 12:29 Nekrodes I've put a small minetest server to test with some friends and all is good, so I've decided to look more in the forums, irc, etc :) 12:29 ninnghazad well that i never do. i chuckle with myself, at most. 12:29 Nekrodes jp_: xD 12:30 Nekrodes jp_: the blues ones or the red ones? :p 12:30 Nekrodes blue* 12:30 jp_ the pink ones with funny logo onto 12:30 Nekrodes \o/ 12:50 MinetestBot PilzAdam: 09-26 14:02 UTC Also das mit dem pausieren eines Lua Scripts klappt super falls du das mal selber brauchst sag Bescheid 13:04 MinetestBot meldrian: 09-23 11:04 UTC die videoqualität in deinem rumschreivideo ist unter aller sau, die skalirung ist vollkommen verranzt 13:08 exio4 that looks like a weird german 13:20 ninnghazad first testvid from wip computer-mod, a bot doing the good 'ol dance-o-random: http://dunkelraum.net/share/dronetest_0.mp4 13:41 iqual https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?author_id=11581&sr=posts is a spammer 13:43 * Amaz has reported all those posts. 13:53 iqual sfan5: ^ 13:53 sfan5 hm? 13:53 sfan5 I don't see any posts anymore 13:55 ninnghazad yeah, removed already it seems 13:55 sfan5 ninnghazad: nice mod btw 13:56 iqual sfan5: ah, seems like somebody took care of it 13:56 iqual btw: what happened to the skyblock survivial server? 13:56 exio4 anyone taking a MOOC? 13:57 sfan5 mooc? 13:57 exio4 masive open online course 13:57 exio4 coursera, udacity, edx... 13:58 ninnghazad lol. you mean like read wikipedia? ;) 13:58 sfan5 :D 14:00 exio4 ninnghazad, https://www.coursera.org/course/intrologic https://www.coursera.org/course/maththink https://www.coursera.org/course/proglang https://www.coursera.org/course/ml 14:01 exio4 introduction to mathematical thinking and introduction to logic started just today 14:01 exio4 the machine learning started a few days ago, and the programming language courses starts in a few days :P 14:01 exio4 already took proglang, amazing course 14:04 ninnghazad hm, those courses count towards some kind of official title? like you get a bachelor when doing enough of them? 14:05 exio4 nah 14:06 exio4 you get a "statement of accomplishment" 14:07 exio4 but you don't get a bachelor by doing them, you learn what one bachelor would though 14:07 sfan5 and thats worth nothing? 14:07 ninnghazad still sound interesting. but probly wouldnt pay for it - could do all the courses i want @uni - and the amount of courses i'd wish to do is exactly f'in zero. 14:08 exio4 they are all free, you can get paid "worth it" statements of accomplishment 14:08 exio4 sfan5, didn't know learning was worthless 14:09 ninnghazad anybody got tips on how to yield across a pcall in minetest? 14:10 Fritigern sfan5: They don't change because knowledge is priceless. 14:12 ninnghazad that is such a void thing to say. the fitting void-counter would be: there's a price for everything! 14:12 Fritigern the price would be time and efort 14:15 * sfan5 meows at john_minetest 14:15 iqual what happened to the skyblock server? 14:15 sfan5 which skyblock server? 14:16 iqual that one skyblock server that ran the skyblock game 14:16 iqual you even played on it 14:16 ninnghazad with the blocks, and the sky - u know... 14:17 iqual currently building minetest on a singlecore cpu 14:17 iqual fun fun fun 14:17 sfan5 are you sure? 14:17 iqual sfan5: not quite http://meow.minetest.net/skyblock-video.mp4 14:18 sfan5 that wasn't public 14:18 sfan5 I'd be surprised if the world survived me moving to arch 14:18 iqual oh, well, there was a publick one once 14:19 sfan5 I could dig out the ubuntu backup I made, but nah 14:49 SaltyDog001 Good day all :) I'm running 3 separate minetest servers from one rental vps. Is there a way to have separate debug.txt files? Currently all 3 servers combine into this. Thanks! 14:50 sfan5 --logfile 14:52 SaltyDog001 add that to each server starting, like --info ? 14:53 sfan5 yes 14:53 SaltyDog001 thank you very much. 14:54 Nekrodes is there a way to change the server setting in CLI? (ie, survival to creative mode) 14:54 Nekrodes while the server is running without running the GUI game, I mean 14:56 sfan5 Nekrodes: CLI? no, but you can do /set -n but I'm not sure if thats written to minetest.conf 14:56 Nekrodes sfan5: I didn't see it 14:57 Nekrodes I ask this because some times I can't launch the game to do it with the admin rights :( 14:58 Nekrodes I would like to connect to the server and change the game mode (for ex) from the command line 14:58 sfan5 thats not possible 14:58 ninnghazad change config and restart process only way i think 14:58 Nekrodes ninnghazad: indeed 14:59 Nekrodes another stupid question: what mods do you recommend me to run a survival server? :) 15:01 SaltyDog001 I did grant one person creative mode and they had all items. Not sure if that helps. 15:05 PenguinDad https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/323 poor grid :'( 15:10 exio4 "I’ll give you a specific example of mathematical thinking from my own past involvement in national security research. (Don’t worry, my part was not classified. You can read it without me having to kill you.)" 15:13 PenguinDad exio4: sounds interesting ;) 15:14 exio4 http://devlinsangle.blogspot.com.ar/2012/08/what-is-mathematical-thinking.html 15:14 Calinou hi 15:14 Calinou I'm planning on doing my own Ubuntu 14.04 builds 15:14 exio4 ( https://www.coursera.org/course/maththink ) 15:15 Calinou sfan5, Amaz, sorry about yesterday, I misunderstood jojoa1997's question. 15:19 Calinou the build will have gettext, freetype, leveldb support, will not be run-in-place 15:19 Amaz No problem! :) 15:19 cities Calinou I see your name all over the place 15:19 sfan5 Calinou: so basically the same as the daily-builds ppa 15:19 cities you do texture pack converstions 15:20 Calinou sfan5, hmm… so it is probably better to do run-in-place 15:20 Calinou else it doesn't have much point 15:20 Calinou PPA is meant for system-wide, integrated installation, my builds would be more portable 15:23 Calinou cities, yes, not that updated these days, will work on 0.4.10 anyway 15:23 Calinou (the most developed one is Misa) 15:23 jojoa1997_ Hi! 15:23 cities I tried Misa 15:24 cities the owner of soartex fanver was annoyed that his pack was converted 15:24 Calinou some texture may be missing 15:24 Calinou he should have complained there then 15:25 jojoa1997 Calinou: what? 15:25 jojoa1997 Nvm check logs 15:25 Calinou jojoa1997, about your armor slots question 15:25 Calinou I wa 15:25 Calinou I wasn't aware about the space constraint 15:25 cities I like something thats not too hyperreal...I like more of an HD default look 15:26 Calinou then Faithful is for you (but that one is a bit outdated) 15:26 jojoa1997 Ah I see. No wories 15:26 Calinou Evergreen's made a Faithful 32× pack for Minetest too, but outdated too 15:26 cities yeah... I tried each one and so much is missing 15:26 jojoa1997 I will be updating my script to convert textures 15:26 cities but what is done looks great 15:26 jojoa1997 Cities about hovercraft? 15:26 jojoa1997 Over 15:26 cities overcraft? 15:26 cities didn't hear of that :) 15:27 Calinou I will be updating my script to convert textures 15:27 Calinou thanks, quite useful 15:27 jojoa1997 Kk 15:27 Calinou ideally it should be as autonomous as possible 15:27 Calinou i.e. it extracts zip for you 15:27 jojoa1997 The only problem is github doesn't have a batch mode by default 15:27 jojoa1997 Gimp 15:27 Calinou GIMP isn't suited for this 15:28 Calinou use Bash + ImageMagick 15:28 jojoa1997 I forgot 15:28 jojoa1997 Animated textures sometime look all bleh except in one part of image 15:28 jojoa1997 Calinou: script is for windows but I think I could make a bash one 15:29 Calinou :( 15:29 jojoa1997 cities: it is a game pack I made. I updated it today and I thought you were talking about it because it uses the faithful pack 15:29 Calinou you should make the inverse, you can run Bash on Windows to an extent using Cygwin 15:29 jojoa1997 Calinou: no 15:29 cities oh! thanks for letting me know 15:29 cities I will make a note to check it out 15:30 jojoa1997 It tries to resemble mc 15:30 cities it must be so hard to do texture packs with all the mods out there 15:30 * jojoa1997 looks at VanessaE's pack 15:31 cities minetest is a lot of fun 15:31 cities ive almost abandoned minecraft 15:31 jojoa1997 Don't abandoned it 15:31 ninnghazad anybody knows if, as minetest uses LuaJIT, it also features CoCo? 15:31 jojoa1997 Play both 15:32 cities I'm stil playing both but hard to fit in the hours of the day :) 15:32 jojoa1997 Yeah 15:33 cities I really wish the inventory/crafting thing worked where you hold shift and click it and it goes into your inventory 15:33 cities I have to click on and drag everything 15:33 jojoa1997 Don't try modding in MT, it took me 8 hours to do this https://github.com/jojoa1997/overcraft_origins/commit/5ab0f35f173bc7dacf15a957210bccca951c7b91 15:33 cities is that normal or jsut me 15:33 Calinou my build also bundles a few texture packs 15:33 Calinou ninnghazad, I don't think so 15:37 jojoa1997 Calinou: Win7 is pro 15:37 jojoa1997 Win8 should go die in a hole 15:39 Amaz ↑ 15:40 Calinou http://images.wikia.com/mlpfanart/images/4/41/Rainbow_Dash_haters_gonna_hate.gif 15:40 Calinou what does this have to do with what I said anyway? 15:40 Calinou both run Bash and Batch in a similar way 15:40 Calinou (both have crappy command line… :D) 15:41 khonkhortisan and one reads in executable code from environment variables 15:42 ninnghazad i am shocked that you shell bring that up! 15:43 jojoa1997 But why force people to install cgywin 15:43 Calinou “Shellshock” is the name of a Warsow music 15:43 * sfan5 licks Calinou 15:43 khonkhortisan I was about to type the test here 15:43 Calinou jojoa1997, better force people to install Cygwin than force them to install Windows. 15:44 khonkhortisan x11 running in a window is ugly 15:44 jojoa1997 But you need windows to install cgywin 15:44 Calinou sfan5, oh, my build will have NodeBoxEditor, the C++ mapper, minetest_game and Carbone 15:44 jojoa1997 Also the script is for me. I am only sharing it for others 15:44 sfan5 Calinou: do I look like I care? 15:44 DusXMT jojoa1997: But you don't need cygwin when you're on anything but windows 15:44 DusXMT It's a compatibility layer, kinda like winelib 15:45 jojoa1997 Still not gonna change my mind :-P 15:45 cities jojoa1997 15:45 cities can you send me a link 15:45 shadowzone !up shadowzone.duckdns.org 15:45 MinetestBot shadowzone.duckdns.org:30000 is up (575ms) 15:45 shadowzone Hey. 15:45 jojoa1997 https://github.com/jojoa1997/overcraft_origins/commit/5ab0f35f173bc7dacf15a957210bccca951c7b91 15:46 jojoa1997 cities: you can go back from there 15:48 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=10239 15:48 Calinou please test ASAP 15:48 Calinou hi shadowzone :) 15:49 shadowzone Hi. 15:56 realtinymonster why must you tell the remote machine to be quiet when you want to access it? 15:56 realtinymonster it is kinda odd 15:56 PenguinDad realtinymonster: who is you? 15:56 realtinymonster PenguinDad: I am myself 15:56 realtinymonster no, not really 15:57 realtinymonster to answer your question, I am the failed internet identity of zsoltisawesome 15:57 realtinymonster ^ PenguinDad 15:58 Calinou thus, realtinypony 15:58 Amaz XD 15:58 PenguinDad :D 15:58 realtinymonster LOL 15:59 PenguinDad <3 Soundcloud's new design 16:11 cities shadowzone 16:11 cities I am watching Lets Play Minetest #6 16:11 shadowzone Nice. 16:11 shadowzone I'm running a server now. 16:11 cities is that you talking 16:11 shadowzone Yes it is. 16:11 cities so you are really 12 16:12 cities I can't tell if its a joke or not 16:12 cities pardon me 16:12 reactor "I can't explain myself because I'm not myself you see" 16:12 Calinou we were all 12 at a time 16:13 cities this sounds like lyrics 16:14 Amaz Spam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=156128#p156128 16:14 Calinou thanks for reporting 16:14 Amaz More spam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=156124#p156124 16:15 cities well congrats on your new server 16:17 sfan5 o/ jordan4ibanez 16:18 jin_xi Amaz: you know the report button? 16:18 jordan4ibanez \o sfan5 16:18 * Amaz used it. 16:18 * sfan5 meows 16:18 Amaz But, faster response on IRC. 16:18 jin_xi then why spam dead links 16:18 Amaz Fast response :P 16:18 jin_xi Please be patient, says so right in the topic :) 16:19 jordan4ibanez sfan5: did you see the minetest-changing book mod I'm making? 16:19 sfan5 no 16:19 Amaz Yeah, but if you get a faster response by posting it here, then why shouldn't you post it here? 16:19 sfan5 pls2link 16:20 jin_xi jordan4ibanez: its nice but please make a nodebox for a shelf with one, two tree or no books in it and replace it to match when you use books 16:20 Amaz Anyway, that's to do with questions asked here, not with the report button ;) 16:21 jordan4ibanez Books! http://i.imgur.com/qXnGfj7.png 16:21 jordan4ibanez jin_xi: Oh I already have that planned, but in a much more, interesting way 16:21 sfan5 not enough test 16:21 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10192 16:21 jin_xi cool 16:21 Calinou cool 16:22 Calinou I'm fine with spam reports on IRC, Amaz 16:22 * sfan5 meows at Calinou 16:22 Amaz :) 16:22 Calinou what does it mean when you meow at someone or lick someone? 16:23 sfan5 Calinou: it means that I'm a cat 16:23 cities I don't think you're a cat 16:23 SmugLeaf is there anything like a compass or map? 16:23 * sfan5 curls up to cities's lap 16:23 sfan5 cities: see? 16:23 SmugLeaf someway to place a waypoint for me to get back too? 16:23 cities No I don't see 16:23 jin_xi sfan5 do you also like to carry around one particular toy and meow at it like crazy 16:23 cities I have a feeling a talking cat is make believe 16:23 zat !up digitalis.ga 16:23 MinetestBot digitalis.ga:30000 is up (2250ms) 16:24 jin_xi because my cats do 16:24 DusXMT SmugLeaf: The simple solution: press F5, swite down coords, return at will 16:24 jin_xi i believe its some sort of cult 16:24 zat !up digitalis.ga 16:24 MinetestBot digitalis.ga:30000 is up (609ms) 16:24 DusXMT *write 16:24 realtinymonster cities: its a condition sfan5 has developed over time 16:24 sfan5 jin_xi: yes 16:25 jin_xi i knew it! 16:25 * jin_xi pets sfan5 16:25 * sfan5 purrs at jin_xi 16:25 realtinymonster it has me a bit concerned about sfan5's health 16:25 DusXMT Are you a furry, sfan5? 16:25 sfan5 DusXMT: no, just a cat 16:25 cities I used to tell people I was abducted by aliens but that doesn't mean I was 16:26 jin_xi on the internet everyone just assumes you're human 16:26 realtinymonster exactly 16:27 cities I find it hard to believe that a cat could IRC no offence to the talking cat community 16:27 * sfan5 curls up to cities's lap 16:28 realtinymonster maybe he uses speech recognition software? 16:28 * zat nyas at sfan5 16:28 realtinymonster to type for him 16:28 * Amaz has a cat who plays the piano. 16:29 * sfan5 nyans at zat 16:29 realtinymonster I have a cat that sits on my chests 16:29 realtinymonster :P 16:29 realtinymonster plsnorage 16:29 sfan5 #minetest - Cat discussions, more off-topic and a small bit of Minetest 16:30 realtinymonster exactly 16:30 Hobodium cities, as a technically inclined talking cat, I find it hard to believe that you giant monkeys can manage to use IRC. https://cdn.mediacru.sh/WoVv33f8Q9ju.jpe 16:30 sfan5 !cat 16:30 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/3l1REu3.jpg 16:31 shadowzone !up shadowzone.duckdns.org 16:31 MinetestBot shadowzone.duckdns.org:30000 is up (548ms) 16:31 zat !up digitalis.ga 16:31 MinetestBot digitalis.ga:30000 is up (259ms) 16:31 realtinymonster !up harpbeta.tk 16:31 MinetestBot harpbeta.tk:30000 seems to be down 16:31 realtinymonster ugh 16:31 realtinymonster somebody broke it again 16:32 shadowzone XD. 16:32 shadowzone I don't know why I'm laughing. 16:32 realtinymonster most likely one of my cousins found the glowing power button and felt compelled to press it 16:33 shadowzone XD 16:33 realtinymonster its happened before 16:33 shadowzone Doesn't everyone when they see a big red button feel like pressing it? 16:33 realtinymonster while I was playing with my friends too 16:34 realtinymonster :| 16:34 realtinymonster shadowzone: true dat 16:36 realtinymonster it normally is a #moontest server, but it was in minimal testing mode at the moment, so I am not worried about corruption 16:40 realtinymonster Calinou: I have a MLP-related question... What do you think our scale is to the ponies? 16:42 rubenwardy Hi all! 16:42 realtinymonster HI! 16:42 shadowzone Hi rubenwardy. 16:44 jp_ the forum need a captcha on registering... 16:45 shadowzone !help 16:45 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 16:45 PenguinDad john_minetest: there are a few for mc iirc 16:46 realtinymonster its funny that you mention that john_minetest, I was working on that a while ago 16:46 realtinymonster back when I was still zsoltisawesome 16:46 shadowzone !up shadowzone.duckdns.org 30000 16:46 MinetestBot shadowzone.duckdns.org:30000 is up (544ms) 16:46 realtinymonster yep 16:47 shadowzone I know they are. 16:47 realtinymonster identity changes are more confusing 16:47 cities costume changes are the worst 16:47 TheCephalopod I am a cephalopod now. 16:47 PenguinDad !seen cookies 16:47 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen cookies around. 16:47 realtinymonster what the hell is a cephalopod? 16:47 PenguinDad No cookies!? :( 16:47 TheCephalopod !seen boredom 16:47 MinetestBot TheCephalopod: Sorry, I haven't seen boredom around. 16:47 TheCephalopod :D 16:48 realtinymonster !seen Derpy 16:48 MinetestBot realtinymonster: Sorry, I haven't seen derpy around. 16:48 realtinymonster hehe 16:48 realtinymonster john_minetest: oh 16:48 realtinymonster cool 16:49 cities im cracking up 16:50 shadowzone !seen myself 16:50 MinetestBot shadowzone: Sorry, I haven't seen myself around. 16:50 cities man those squids in Mario bros were such bastards 16:50 shadowzone O_O 16:50 realtinymonster I know right! 16:51 MinetestBot john_minetest: john_minetest was last seen at 2014-09-28 09:44:37 UTC on #minetest 16:51 MinetestBot john_minetest: Sorry, I haven't seen anybody around. 16:51 cities Nintendo invented AI in the 80's 16:51 cities its called Squids 16:51 PenguinDad !seen singularity 16:51 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen singularity around. 16:51 cities !seen asquare 16:51 MinetestBot cities: Sorry, I haven't seen asquare around. 16:51 realtinymonster !seen your_mom 16:51 MinetestBot realtinymonster: Sorry, I haven't seen your_mom around. 16:52 realtinymonster heh 16:52 cities a square a round hardy har 16:52 MinetestBot john_minetest: Sorry, I haven't seen wally around. 16:53 PenguinDad Waldo only looks human D: 16:53 realtinymonster cities: haha I get in now 16:54 cities haha 16:54 cities it was the lamest thing posted in here to date 16:54 * Calinou played the tutorial world of Wuzzy 16:55 Calinou 12 gold ingots, 9 diamonds 16:55 cities whats wuzzy 16:56 cities fuzzy wuzzy wuz a bear 16:56 PenguinDad Calinou: Do you learn how to use the sneak glitch in that tutorial? 16:58 rubenwardy Why did I even use Ubuntu to begin with? 16:58 Calinou I like the mud, there should be more liquids in the default game 16:58 Calinou acid, fast/medium/slow mud 16:58 Calinou PenguinDad, I don't think so 16:58 Calinou rubenwardy, hi 16:59 PenguinDad rubenwardy: because were you tired at that time? 16:59 Calinou made Ubuntu build of Minetest + Minetestmapper C++ + NodeBoxEditor 16:59 rubenwardy Yeah. Kubuntu is awesome. 16:59 rubenwardy Yay! 16:59 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=10239 16:59 Calinou please test 16:59 Calinou I hope it works, but it will only work on the version I use 17:01 sfan5 Calinou: you don't need the -dev packages to run a binary 17:02 rubenwardy ./bin/minetest: error while loading shared libraries: libluajit-5.1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 17:02 rubenwardy That wasn't covered by the post 17:02 sfan5 Calinou: build the stuff in a different folder, leaving all the cmake stuff there only makes your file bigger 17:02 Calinou O_o just saw my post doesn't install LuaJIT 17:02 sfan5 ./minetest: /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4: version `CURL_OPENSSL_3' not found (required by ./minetest) 17:03 Calinou if I remove CMake stuff then I can also remove source code 17:03 sfan5 correct 17:03 rubenwardy NBE works 17:03 sfan5 or even better use make package 17:04 sfan5 * Serpentoj slow-clap.s 17:04 sfan5 oops 17:04 sfan5 wrong channel 17:05 Calinou updated dependency command 17:05 sfan5 you still don't need the -dev packages 17:06 Calinou yes, but I need to spend some time to find the non-dev equivalents 17:06 cities mountain dew 17:06 Calinou low-priority 17:06 sfan5 Calinou: just remove the -dev off each and you got like 75% right 17:06 exio4 75% isn't 100% 17:07 sfan5 yeah 17:07 sfan5 but finding out the rest is trivial when using a magical key called Tab key 17:08 realtinymonster lol 17:08 Calinou openssl libcurl is only in -dev 17:08 Calinou so will stay dev 17:08 Calinou (I'm compiling using that one) 17:08 cities I have the font really small and the window transparent to get away with IRC 17:08 sfan5 all of my wat 17:08 cities and realtinymonster looks like realitymonster 17:09 realtinymonster lol 17:09 realtinymonster that is amusing 17:09 sfan5 Calinou: use libcurl3 (source: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libcurl4-openssl-dev) 17:09 cities probably not to anyone else 17:09 rickmcfarley I thought it was funny too 17:10 realtinymonster somebody would like to be a tree 17:10 realtinymonster s/somebody/somepony 17:10 Taoki Hi. What was the function to check if a node is solid, or liquid, and so on? IIRC there was a function like that... or you could check group:solid or something 17:10 Calinou found non-dev packages 17:11 sfan5 Calinou: also: libcurl has a generic interface, it probably doesn't matter whether user uses -openssl, -nss or -gnutls 17:11 sfan5 Taoki: check the drawtype 17:11 Calinou and/or walkability 17:11 Calinou thanks 17:11 Taoki Thanks 17:13 Taoki sfan5: Can minetest.find_node_near search by drawtype? 17:13 sfan5 Taoki: IIRC no 17:13 Taoki Ah. What's the easiest way then? 17:13 Taoki And how could I make find_node_near look for all solid nodes 17:14 Calinou done the archive, will be faster to download 17:14 Calinou went from 17 to 12 MB 17:14 jin_xi look for all nodes and check for walkable or whatever its called in the nodedefs 17:16 Taoki Heh. For water there is a group that would work for this, or so the example page says :/ 17:16 Taoki minetest.find_node_near({x=0, y=0, z=0}, 4, {"group:water"}) 17:17 SmugLeaf can someone with a couple mods and a texture pack installed dump there directory structure for me? 17:17 SmugLeaf the wiki fucking sucks 17:18 Taoki jin_xi: How do I make minetest.find_node_near() look for all nodes? Do I just let the string empty? 17:18 Calinou SmugLeaf, what opearting system do you use? 17:19 SmugLeaf linux 17:19 Calinou how did you install the game? did you compile it yourself or did you use a package? 17:19 realtinymonster linux ought to be more complicated 17:19 Calinou if it's a package, you put mods in ~/.minetest/mods and textures in ~/.minetest/textures 17:19 SmugLeaf http://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Texture_Packs 17:19 SmugLeaf just found this 17:19 Calinou if it's compiled, it depends if it's run-in-place or not 17:20 SmugLeaf god this needs to be less burried 17:20 realtinymonster be back soon 17:21 SmugLeaf Calinou: server question, are texture packs local only? 17:23 Calinou if you are a client: the texture pack is used on servers you play on, overriding any textures in the process (purely client-side) 17:23 jin_xi Taoki: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/f3eefeb7948b8b8d1a98f2f89baa39abc807f72d/src/script/lua_api/l_env.cpp#L510 17:23 Calinou if you are a server: the pack named “server” will be used on clients that don't enforce a pack themselves 17:25 SmugLeaf so I named a pack server, and it looks like my client is downloading it 17:25 SmugLeaf but it's going at exactly 25KiB/s 17:25 SmugLeaf what the heck 17:25 Calinou yes, by default the downloads are done from server, not from the Web, slow 17:25 Calinou (hey, some games don't support server download at all) 17:26 Calinou so the solution is to set up a Web server, set it up to use it as remote_media server 17:26 Calinou not easy, time-consuming 17:26 Calinou but you can download at several MB/s that way 17:26 Calinou (provided your connection can handle it) 17:27 PenguinDad Calinou: setting up a remote media server isn't that hard 17:28 sol_invictus anyone knows a mod with chicken mobs? 17:28 Calinou PenguinDad, I don't know of any streamlined guide, that could be put on wiki 17:28 Calinou the ideal one would feature instructions for Windows too and be as short as possible 17:29 Calinou as no one wants to read dozens of pages for that stuff, especially when it doesn't work 17:38 Calinou rubenwardy, try downloading again 17:39 Calinou minified, fixed dependency list 17:45 cities bailbonds! 17:50 * Jordach meows 17:50 * PenguinDad wtfs at a song 17:52 * sfan5 licks PenguinDad 17:54 Taoki Anyone know what the moon's light level is? Like, what's the light level of a node lit only by moon at midnight 17:55 Calinou 4 or so 17:55 PenguinDad sfan5: but it was a wtf in a good way 17:55 Taoki Thanks 18:08 zat !up digitalis.ga 18:08 MinetestBot digitalis.ga:30000 is up (987ms) 18:09 jordan4ibanez I'm trying to learn 4 finger typing to go faster and in fact i'm typing this sentence with this style 18:10 jordan4ibanez It's very frustrating lol 18:10 Calinou Taoki, use the get_light_level method to be sure 18:10 cities 4 finger typig? 18:11 Calinou 1 hoof typing 18:12 jordan4ibanez with your left index finger on the f key and your right index finger on the j key 18:13 SylvieLorxu That's a really weird way to put your hands 18:13 PenguinDad I am learning two wing typing :P 18:14 SylvieLorxu https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/KB_United_States_Dvorak.svg 18:14 cities what other way is there 18:14 jordan4ibanez qwerty for me 18:14 SylvieLorxu I place my left index finder on i and my right index finger on h 18:14 jordan4ibanez Hnnnnnnng 18:14 SylvieLorxu Err 18:14 SylvieLorxu u,h 18:14 khonkhortisan I eventually want to type left-handed, with both, or right-handed, but without learning a new set of keys between these methods. 18:15 cities whats the correct way 18:15 khonkhortisan one-handed typing is useful in games that use a mouse but don't have voice chat 18:16 cities ohhh yeah 18:16 cities is there an actual method 18:16 khonkhortisan oh, and I was wrong about something. 18:17 khonkhortisan I used to say that qwerty was bad because it's designed to prevent jams, and electronic keyboards don't jam. 18:17 khonkhortisan But electronic keyboards do jam, because most don't have full n-key rollover. 18:17 cities I heard that khonkhortisan 18:17 khonkhortisan So qwerty still has a place. 18:17 cities one handed typing is so annoying 18:17 SylvieLorxu There is left-handed and right-handed dvorak, if you don't mind placing your hand in the middle of the keyboard that could work for one-handed typing 18:17 sfan5 Jordach: how about typing with 2 fingers? 18:17 khonkhortisan ^ that's what I don't want to do, switch between three different dvoraks 18:17 sfan5 nono 18:18 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: ^ 18:18 SylvieLorxu https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard#One-handed_versions 18:18 cities its how I have to type when my daughter sits with me and watches me play minecraft and minetest 18:18 SylvieLorxu I only use standard dvorak 18:18 khonkhortisan I used programmer dvorak for a short time. 18:18 SylvieLorxu Any two-handed layout sucks for single-handed typing 18:19 cities how do you go from querty to dvorak 18:19 khonkhortisan I created my own layout, where when a specific key was held down, the whole keyboard mirrored. Unfortunately, some programs refused to accept certain keys (like backspace) moving. 18:19 khonkhortisan cities: what operating system? 18:19 cities no I meant in your brain 18:19 rubenwardy meow.minetest.net is a cool subdomain :P 18:19 jordan4ibanez i already do that sfan5, i just want to break 100 wpm 18:19 SylvieLorxu Programmer dvorak seems so hard to learn 18:19 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: pff.. who cares about some number? 18:19 khonkhortisan oh, I never learned touch typing on qwerty. I learned dvorak and touch typing at the same time, and didn't go back to qwerty. Some people actually do keep up with both. 18:20 cities if I went to my boss and said I want a dvorak keyboard for work 18:20 SylvieLorxu cities: Practice dvorak for a bit. I can switch between the two (I need a minute or two to adjust, though) 18:20 khonkhortisan I've broken 100wpm, but my average is below there. 18:20 cities they'd look at me 18:20 SylvieLorxu You don't need another keyboard 18:20 cities like I had 3 heads 18:20 SylvieLorxu Just switch the keyboard layout in your OS 18:20 khonkhortisan Right, dvorak is a software change. 18:20 jordan4ibanez I do, it could greatly ease use of the computer 18:20 cities SylvieLorxu but then i'd be hitting one key and it would put another 18:21 SylvieLorxu Hmm, I wonder how much wpm I can reach 18:21 khonkhortisan cities: now if you went to your boss, and demanded a keyboard with full n-key rollover (and possibly with mechanical switches) they might respect you for quality. 18:21 SylvieLorxu cities: Which is why you practice the layout :P 18:21 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: I've always typed with 2 fingers, over time I got faster and it's fast enough for me 18:21 cities lol... khonkhortisan Ill have to google that 18:21 cities I don't know what tha tis 18:22 khonkhortisan On a standard keyboard, you're not guaranteed that multiple keypresses will work. 18:22 jordan4ibanez I want to be able to type at 300 to 400 wpm 18:22 jordan4ibanez MOAR SPEED 18:22 khonkhortisan For example, three at a time works with ctrl-alt-delete, but not with left shift+right shift+"the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" 18:22 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:22 sfan5 the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy doge 18:22 sfan5 !doge 18:22 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/3pnQciA.jpg 18:22 cities I nevr learned the right way to type 18:23 cities and now I do typing for a livng 18:23 khonkhortisan If you're the kind of person who uses unusual keyboard layouts or program shortcuts, that sort of thing matters - because then a key's meaning is arbitrary, and so are the supported combinations. 18:23 cities in school we had typing classes and I would copy/paste instead of typing it :( 18:24 * sfan5 meows at cities 18:24 cities they say put your fingers on the home keys 18:24 cities you're supposed to use like all of them 18:24 sfan5 cities: you had typing classes? 18:25 cities I type with my index fingers 18:25 cities yeah in junior high 18:25 khonkhortisan I have two keyboards plugged in, and on one of them I can't type WAQ all at the same time (move diagonally forward-left while turning left) 18:26 cities I want a keyboard with just WASD 18:26 cities other keys irrelevant 18:26 khonkhortisan You have that, it's the arrow keys. Destroy the rest of the buttons. 18:26 cities brb hammer 18:27 khonkhortisan you could even take the keyboard apart, and saw through specific places, to get a mini-keyboard with circuit guts hanging out of it 18:27 cities as long as its aesthetically pleasing 18:28 sfan5 cities: get a numpad only thing, remap the keys using some fancy way and put tape with the new key char on them 18:29 khonkhortisan I taped qwerty+dvorak paper squares onto my keys when I was learning it 18:29 cities ohhh 18:29 cities thats not a bad idea 18:29 khonkhortisan no, it probably was, because I was learning touch typing. 18:29 zlsa khonkhortisan, dammit, left shift + right shift + any alphanumeric doesn't work at all... 18:29 cities see this is why I am on freenode 18:30 khonkhortisan zlsa: So your keyboard doesn't even have a minimum of three keypresses 18:30 cities If I press too many keys on my keyboard it makes a horrid keeping sound 18:30 zlsa it's a junky keyboard... 18:30 cities err beeping* 18:30 zlsa * laptop keyboard 18:30 khonkhortisan um, use a keyboard tester to get rid of the beeps. 18:31 jordan4ibanez !doge 18:31 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/l0YSsre.jpg 18:31 khonkhortisan I get "equickronfoxjupovereavog" 18:31 cities http://learn.dvorak.nl 18:32 sfan5 !cat 18:32 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/7jtdgLn.jpg 18:32 khonkhortisan and "thqkbwnxjmpsvthzyd" 18:32 khonkhortisan between a logitech and micro innovations keyborad 18:33 cities im gnona order me some dvorak stickers 18:33 khonkhortisan I /almost/ did that. 18:33 * sfan5 orders cities a city 18:34 cities I'm gonna order qwerty stickers and stick them on in dvorak order. Trick the man 18:34 khonkhortisan haha who sells qwerty stickers? 18:34 cities lol// 18:34 khonkhortisan maybe colemak stickers are cheaper than dvorak stickers 18:36 khonkhortisan I had a blank (yes, no labels whatsoever) keyboard around somewhere. 18:39 Calinou here we have Bepo: http://bepo.fr/wiki/Accueil 18:39 Calinou but I use AZERTY anyway 18:40 * khonkhortisan is happy seeing alt gr 18:40 Calinou Hmm, I wonder how much wpm I can reach 18:40 Calinou my best 112 wpm, my average 98 wpm 18:41 Jordach tl;dr i'd advertise Minetest for the LAN party, but i want to avoid bad press 18:42 sfan5 tl;dr you won't 18:43 Calinou tl;dr I didn't read this 18:50 cities I can't imagine having a blank keyboard 18:51 khonkhortisan imagine the space key, but smaller. 18:52 khonkhortisan looks like this, but not as cool http://www.daskeyboard.com/daskeyboard-4-ultimate/ 18:53 cities ill try 18:53 cities but theres no guarentees 18:54 cities you've got me googling one handed typing now 18:54 cities I'm interested 18:54 jin_xi chuck moore does/did that 18:54 cities mostly for minecraft and minetest 18:55 jin_xi 4 keys, uses what he called key chords 18:56 khonkhortisan one handed typing is mostly designed for people who only have one hand - there's not much ambidextrous one-handed typing out there 18:56 cities well 18:57 khonkhortisan for, say, if you were a left-handed mouser and right-handed joysticker 18:57 cities its not a good reason I have 18:57 cities but my kid sits with my while I play games 18:57 cities my arm goes around her shoulder and uses the mouse 18:57 cities around her* 18:57 jin_xi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorded_keyboard 18:57 khonkhortisan eh, reason enough. One hand is taken, and you still want to type. 18:57 cities yes 18:58 cities so instead of moving my arm every time from behind her 18:58 cities to type 18:58 cities I just type one handed but it sucks 19:00 cities im looking at chorded now 19:01 cities human beings will go to great lengths to input text into a system 19:02 cities autocomplete like on my phone would be better 19:03 khonkhortisan Not having used one, I don't trust a chorded keyboard. There are enough problems with non-standard keyboard layouts. Moving keys like escape and backspace would make it even worse. 19:05 iio7 How do I set up several admins? I tried a comma separated list in minetest.conf, but that doesn't work. 19:07 PenguinDad cities: autocomplete :D http://xkcd.com/1427/ 19:08 cities haha 19:08 cities you have my sword my bow and my 19:08 cities DAD 19:10 PenguinDad They may take our lives, but they'll never take our money. 19:12 Taoki Does anyone if nodes buried between solid nodes always have a light level of 0? So for example, if I place a wood node in the air, then surround it in stone nodes (even diagonally), is that wood node guaranteed to have light 0? 19:12 Taoki Curious since I'm thinking of using 0 light to detect buried nodes 19:17 PilzAdam Taoki, solid nodes always have a light level of 0 19:18 Taoki ok. That should detect nodes not at the surface then 19:18 Taoki Or well, with no side uncovered 19:19 PilzAdam no 19:19 Taoki ah 19:23 jojoa1997 yo 19:24 PenguinDad no 19:27 jojoa1997 yes 19:34 zat http://uppix.com/f-screenshot_312055429b4050017b3c9.jpg 19:34 zat http://uppix.com/f-screenshot_326965429b4070017b3ca.jpg 19:39 Calinou made English version of Map generator on the wiki from the French version :D 19:44 zat rewat 19:53 jojoa1997 Calinou link 19:53 Calinou wiki.minetest.net/Map_generator 19:54 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.net/Map_generator 19:59 sfan5 !wiki Map Generator 19:59 MinetestBot "The map generator is the 02Minetest component that generates the 02map." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Map_Generator 19:59 sfan5 !wiki Map Generator/fr 19:59 MinetestBot No such page. 19:59 sfan5 aw 20:00 PenguinDad !wiki Main Page 20:00 sfan5 !wiki Map generator/fr 20:00 MinetestBot "02Minetest is a 02sandbox construction game, created by Perttu Ahlola (alias "02celeron55") in year 2010, inspired by 02Infiniminer, 02Minecraft and similar games." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Main_Page 20:00 MinetestBot "Le générateur de carte est le composant de 02Minetest qui génère la 02carte." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Map_generator%2Ffr 20:00 shadowzone !shadowzone.duckdns.org 20:00 shadowzone nvm 20:13 Calinou I read “Minetest is a sandbox construction game, created by Markus Persson” 20:15 cities wut 20:15 cities where 20:15 exio4 he played too much minecraft 20:15 cities does notch just make everything in the universe 20:15 exio4 he is the minecraft god 20:16 cities he seems bizarre in his goodbye interview 20:16 cities or statement 20:16 cities or whatever it was 20:16 cities letter 20:16 Jordach he's broken from demanding people and the kids constantly hounding him 20:16 cities thats kind of sad 20:16 shadowzone Yeah. 20:16 cities what do the kids want 20:17 zat http://uppix.com/f-screenshot_327245429be270017b3ea.jpg 20:17 Calinou stone armor, horses, dirt tools… 20:17 Jordach to be fair, under the laser focused spotlight of interest, you wouldn't last long 20:18 shadowzone kids want it to be free. 20:18 shadowzone Like this kid. 20:19 zat uh yes its nice 20:19 cities well minetest is free 20:19 Calinou people buy games, yet they hate paying 20:19 Calinou people complain about game business models, yet they buy them 20:20 zat emos say life sux but they live it lol 20:20 exio4 I don't hate paying for good software 20:20 cities do you think notch lost his mind 20:20 Jordach he most certainly did 20:21 Jordach he's most likely to change internet name and go elsewhere 20:21 Calinou like he already does 20:21 Calinou all the “famous” people and developers do that 20:22 khonkhortisan Then I predict, that sometime in the future, I shall no longer be known as Khonkhortisan. 20:22 Hobodium I don't think he lost his mind, and he certainly hasn't changed his name since he still streams himself working on his projects occasionally. 20:22 jojoa1997 khonkhortisan you will never be a famous developer! 20:23 khonkhortisan it's great how this conversation made name changes imply being famous 20:23 Jordach i could potentially have a rediculous burst of YT popularity for doing animated renders 20:24 Hobodium And you should ride that wave into money, and remember to kick some back to your good friend Hobo 20:24 Jordach http://no.pe 20:25 Jordach why bother extorting kids and viewers when you could much easier teach your skills for free 20:25 Hobodium You don't have to extort people on youtube though, unless you are saying advertising is extortion 20:25 cities I guess I don't understand 20:26 jojoa1997 Jordach teach me 20:26 jojoa1997 I can give you 1 minute a day 20:26 * sfan5 meows at jojoa1997 20:26 Jordach Hobodium, considering the tracking and bullshit wholesale selling of info 20:26 Jordach i'd think so 20:27 khonkhortisan I know the squid nope, haven't seen tf2. 20:27 * jojoa1997 brings sfan5 back into this channel and pets him 20:27 Hobodium You get that for using youtube anyways, even if you actually think they straight up sell your info. 20:28 jojoa1997 Jordach Why must you always have super hires photos that make the forums load slow and youtube link please 20:28 Jordach jojoa1997, because i'm a 01,01cunt 20:28 Calinou http://www.briangrinstead.com/files/astar/ 20:28 Calinou pathfinding 20:28 jojoa1997 Jordach -.- 20:29 jojoa1997 Jordach youtubelink please 20:29 Jordach [21:24:19] http://no.pe 20:30 khonkhortisan I got stuck doing a level in another game, while that nope was looping 20:30 cities leonard cohen doesn't sing I just realized 20:34 Calinou Jordach, how I blend: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/y-0-P2105qdz.png 20:34 Calinou Ubuntu theme, increased font size 20:34 Calinou looks incredibly better 20:34 Calinou easier to read 20:34 Calinou also using French 20:34 Jordach ew 20:34 Jordach orthio 20:34 Jordach you nuts 20:34 Calinou despite the translation not even being used by default, it's surprisingly good 20:35 Calinou that's the 3D block render blend, was created ~2 years ago, still opens in 2.71 20:35 Calinou I thought backwards compatibility was worse 20:35 shadowzone Lol. 20:35 shadowzone You scared him away. 20:38 Calinou bye, night 20:38 shadowzone Night. 20:39 khonkhortisan blue camera? 20:39 Calinou themes can change selection/camera colour 20:40 * shadowzone burst out laughing 21:03 cities anything interesting going on 21:06 cities im stuck at work 21:06 cities until like 8:30 pm 21:06 meldrian Sorry that minetestbot is delivering messages from minetest-de here to me. Can't tell why 21:08 george__ I dowloaded a mineyest game what folder do I install it in linux? 21:08 Calinou george__, ~/.minetest/games 21:08 Calinou create if needed 21:08 Calinou if your build is run-in-place, then you put games in (the folder Minetest is in)/games 21:09 jojoa1997 john_minetest lol 21:09 george__ that was my next question thanks 21:09 cities hmm I did /whois calinou 21:24 Megaf [22:05:09] http://imgur.com/gallery/5ZbZOXN 21:24 Megaf LMAO 21:26 exio4 hahah 21:27 george__ whats the address to post error messages in here? 21:29 rickmcfarley1 http://pastebin.com/ 21:29 exio4 dpaste 21:29 rickmcfarley1 according to minetest.net/irc 21:29 exio4 pastebin sucks 21:29 george__ ty rick 21:29 exio4 http://dpaste.com/ 21:29 rickmcfarley1 i use pastee, i was just quoting the site 21:32 * Megaf uses paste.debian.net 21:33 george__ here us the address http://pastebin.com/szfpLPY5 21:34 cities I use http://elmers.com 21:34 rickmcfarley1 do you need mesecons george_? 21:35 rickmcfarley1 and is a script trying to reference xpanes? 21:35 george__ I don't kow rick? 21:36 rickmcfarley1 sorry if im late to the party, what are you trying to do? 21:37 george__ thik I put mods in wrog did o this puter let me see if I can get it fixed later 21:49 George I'm confuzed my os is majaro and arch distro. I have a root dir with ~/mietest/games , but I also have ~// usr/shared/ minetest/games/. so which dir do I use? 21:51 jojoa1997 How do mods and stuff work on Linux distributions? 21:53 George I ment tu use ~/.minetest/games, forgot the . 21:55 George my n dosent work all the time sorry 21:58 rickmcfarley I use fedora and installed from source to my home directory. my mods go in /home/rick/.minetest/mods 22:07 Taoki https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9240&p=156177#p156177 New feature in Creatures mod. Mobs can now take objective nodes, and walk to or avoid various nodes based on light level even. Check it out if anyone's interested :) 22:13 RealBadAngel hi Taoki 22:13 Taoki hi :) 22:14 RealBadAngel have you seen progress on meshes? 22:15 Taoki no. What's the progress? 22:17 RealBadAngel well, theyre here :) 22:17 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/eKgfuns.png 22:18 Taoki Nice! You can now use meshes on nodes, not just entities? 22:19 RealBadAngel yes 22:19 Taoki That's wonderful. Thank you... that's the thing I was most upset about not being able to do myself when I added initial model support 22:19 Taoki Indeed :) 22:19 Taoki Is it upstream yet? 22:19 RealBadAngel not yet 22:19 RealBadAngel still polishing the code 22:20 Taoki ok. Can't wait ^^ 22:21 RealBadAngel but it will definitely go in before next stable 22:21 RealBadAngel hi proller, http://i.imgur.com/eKgfuns.png 22:24 * Brains checks in on the quarry... Nifty thing if you aren't in a hurry. 22:36 VanessaE ^^^^^ that image is nodes with mesh drawtype, not entities. 22:43 proller RealBadAngel, not very cubic ;) 22:51 RealBadAngel proller, with that you can have any shape, be it round or cubic 23:31 george Hi everybody is there a wat to get my game into daylight all the time? 23:32 george ok how? 23:32 Miner_48er /set time_speed 0 23:32 george ok ty 23:33 RealBadAngel then set time to daytime, /time 12000 23:34 Miner_48er also add the line time_speed = 0 to minetest.conf 23:38 george Thank you Minwe 23:39 george ok now thats that out of the way I would like a better inventory mod , where could I fine 1 please? 23:42 george do I have to deit anything to get my mods working? 23:57 Fritigern Miner_48er: So what is the default value for time_speed ?