Time Nick Message 00:18 AldoBR usefull functions for inventory manipulation 00:18 AldoBR http://pastebin.com/D32EvAMq 00:20 AldoBR invtable = InventoryTable(inventory) 00:20 AldoBR will create an inventory table 00:20 AldoBR invtable:savetoinventory(inventory) 00:20 AldoBR writes it back to a normal inventory 00:25 VanessaE AldoBR: you should publish that on the forums so it doesn't get lost. 00:31 kaeza "This paste has been removed." 00:33 VanessaE case in point :-/ 00:33 AldoBR :P 00:33 AldoBR i have it on my hd 00:33 AldoBR i will release it on forums 00:34 AldoBR hey, how to create an empty stack ? 00:34 VanessaE good question. I have no idea :P 00:34 AldoBR ItemStack("something 0") will do ? 00:34 AldoBR i want to kill a stack from an inventory 00:35 kaeza setting its count to 0 works 00:35 kaeza I think ItemStack("") is also considered "empty" 00:36 AldoBR ok 00:36 kaeza either that, or simply use `nil` 00:42 friti RealBadAngel: Is it just me, or is there sopmething wrong with the texture for flowing lava in the Haven pack? 00:47 AldoBR does lua have the concept of class helper functions ? 00:47 AldoBR i mean, write a function that gets attached to all existing instances of a class ? 00:47 AldoBR does lua even have the concept of class ? 00:51 friti AldoBR: I have found this for you. Dunno if it will help though : http://lua-users.org/wiki/TutorialDirectory 00:52 * friti doesn;t know the first thing of writing anything in Lua 00:52 AldoBR :P 01:21 wgreenberg hi all, I saw in one of the threads that there's been some work in making a unified manual for minetest: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8868 01:21 wgreenberg is the github hoodedice linked to still the location for work on that? 01:22 wgreenberg also, any chance that folks have been looking at spanish translations of said manual? :) 01:24 friti RealBadAngel: HavenNG's lava : https://www.dropbox.com/s/hnc8ane04t7pjf0/HavenNG.png default lava : https://www.dropbox.com/s/v0xw5yng8y14z9f/Default.png 01:27 friti wgreenberg: Since the manual is still being written, a translation is rather premature. The contents of the book are in flux and parts can be removed or completely rewritten. Until the worter(s) decide that it's good enough to release, that's when translations can be made. 01:27 friti *worter = writer 01:30 wgreenberg friti, makes sense. I'm working on a cheap linux box (think raspberry pi, but more) that's shipping with Minetest, and was hoping there'd be some manual to include by default 01:31 wgreenberg being a huge MC fan, I took to it like white on rice, but I fear newbies are gonna have more trouble 01:32 friti You could include a link to https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8868 01:33 friti Assyuming the Linux box also comes with a browser (but why wouldn;t it? :-)) 01:33 friti Which distro will be running on the macine? 01:33 friti *machine 01:34 wgreenberg friti, well the distro's what we're developing, but it's based on debian with GNOME on top; it'll have a browser :P 01:34 friti OOPS!!! Messed up that link It should have been http://wiki.minetest.net/Main_Page/es 01:34 wgreenberg ahh I figured, thanks 01:35 wgreenberg another caveat: target market doesn't have good (or any internet) 01:35 wgreenberg hence the desire for an offline manual 01:35 wgreenberg though there are plenty of wiki -> pdf tools out there 01:35 friti Well, i believe it should be possible to save the contents of wiki somehow. Let me have a looksee 01:36 wgreenberg mediawiki*, and this seems to cover most of it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools 01:36 friti http://wiki.minetest.net/Special:Export 01:36 wgreenberg even better! 01:38 wgreenberg also another question, I was reading the subreddit and came across a comment that mentioned that the Games/Mods/ModPacks are sort of the bread and butter of minetest gameplay (comment here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments/2gsnue/new_to_minetest/ckm84gf) 01:39 wgreenberg any opinions on some to include by default? 01:40 friti Well, definitely the minetest_game one, or you will be stuck with a super bare game. 01:43 RealBadAngel friti, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOnG19XYiSk thats Haven's lava, not yet aviable in mainstream, but soon 01:44 friti Yes, but how about flowing lava? 01:44 friti BTW, looks good 01:45 RealBadAngel thats lava surface shader 01:45 RealBadAngel will work with any textures 01:46 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF9FZx2f8Uw 01:46 friti Well, it obviously isn't working at this moment: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hnc8ane04t7pjf0/HavenNG.png 01:46 VanessaE RealBadAngel: show him the one with HDX's lava :) 01:46 RealBadAngel top left 3 nodes have default 16px textures 01:46 RealBadAngel friti, ofc its not working yet, its WIP 01:47 friti HavenNG is pretty complete, there is also a an animated texture in the HavenNG folder. BUT!!! It doesn;t work!!!! 01:51 blaise did my server move to the bottom of the list or something? 01:51 wgreenberg friti, I've gotta run, thanks for the assistance! :) 01:51 friti wgreenberg: You;re welcome ;-) 01:53 blaise what do the flags mean on the server list? 01:54 blaise Ded Dmg PvP Pwd Rol Far 01:54 blaise what is Far ? 01:54 blaise pretty sure the rest is dedicated, dmg enabled, pvp, password required, roll playing 01:54 blaise but wtf is Far ? 01:55 friti Farming/ 01:55 friti ? 01:56 blaise ah, yeah.. I guess that would fit 01:56 blaise lol 01:56 friti (Sorry, my questionmark got flattened) 01:56 blaise no problem 01:58 friti URGH!!! Liberty Lands are unplayable today. Something is causing so much lag that you can;t build, eat, open chests. Let alone organise inventories or even eat! 01:59 blaise heh 01:59 blaise you said eat twice 01:59 blaise friti: could you test my server and tell me what you think of the lag there? 01:59 friti Well, see... food is important to me? :-) 01:59 friti What server is yours? 01:59 blaise !server midnight 01:59 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/10, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 594ms 01:59 blaise it's a survival server with hunger 01:59 friti Will do 02:00 blaise friti: ty 02:00 blaise I have the irc module, but it's linked to irc.midnightsystems.net 02:00 blaise on the channel #minetest 02:00 blaise XD 02:00 friti Logging in right now 02:02 blaise be patient, lots of textures 02:02 blaise XD 02:23 friti blaise: Did you read my comments? 02:27 zat removing weather functions and weather was a really bad idea 02:29 zat and finite liquid 02:32 friti !server liberty 02:32 MinetestBot friti: No results 02:32 friti !server ayntest 02:32 MinetestBot friti: No results 02:32 friti Hmmm.... How to check for Liberty Land? 02:33 friti !server 02:33 MinetestBot friti: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 1/3 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 263ms 02:33 friti Huh? 02:33 friti Is that a random server? Or does it think i own that one? 03:02 VanessaE it's random 03:02 VanessaE !server 03:02 MinetestBot VanessaE: Meowtest 0.4.10 "SEGFAULTY" | minetest.org:30018 | Clients: 5/25, 0/7 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / meowtest_game | Ping: 151ms 03:02 VanessaE see? 03:08 kaeza https://gist.githubusercontent.com/kaeza/f0b6d11a484e7dee4007/raw/99713413b921bc5b996096d47b863b6fd6069827/gistfile1.txt 03:12 kaeza without "default" mods: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/kaeza/686b90c3f3a9f6786d40/raw/73de05b4a9d20feaa196ac615ae3727869abdbd0/gistfile1.txt 03:17 friti kaeza: That list is based on what? I mean, where do you get those figures? 03:31 kaeza friti, server list (http://servers.minetest.net) 03:35 friti Darn. I had hoped to see the list of mods on Liberty Land. No such luck though :-( 07:07 sfan5 !seen Jordach 07:07 MinetestBot sfan5: jordach was last seen at 2014-09-25 19:30:17 UTC on #minetest 07:15 Krock !cat 07:15 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/A6Pw3Cf.jpg 07:16 sfan5 !doge 07:16 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/e16WWlK.gif 07:16 Krock :D 07:19 Krock It's magic, yuo know. never believe it's not so. 07:59 doomtron any solution for that? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=93321#p93321 08:03 doomtron i believe he did want to say without a direct connection, because he couldnt port forward 08:04 doomtron its a fixed post with a issue from jun/2013 08:37 H-H-H i feel the need to bash some blocks lol 08:38 Krock wat 09:42 friti Well, i guess i am not coming back to Liberty Land. The owner added mobs, and i hate mobs. I don;t want to build, farm and mine whilst looking over my shoulder all the time. 09:43 Calinou place torches 09:45 friti Screw torches. I don;lt want that to be needed to begin with. the server was great, unil he added those mobs just now. 10:10 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10205&p=155707#p155707 10:10 Calinou what a nice try, kaeza 10:21 diemartin ? 10:23 Calinou sarcasm detected 10:25 * sfan5 meows at diemartin 10:25 * diemartin purrs at sfan5 10:26 kaeza oh, I guess it was just the usual trolling then 10:55 Krock http://i.imgur.com/VzrgCO2.jpg 10:56 Krock john smith TP converted to 16x16 :3 10:57 PenguinDad Jpg meh 11:05 Krock PenguinDad, original file site was 1.04 MB, the jpg version is 183 KB small 11:05 Krock *size 11:06 PenguinDad Krock: you could halve the file size without quality loss 11:07 Krock PenguinDad, and now it's 5.7 times smaller 11:07 PenguinDad and has a shitty quality 11:08 Krock I can't see a big firerence 11:08 Krock *difference 11:08 * Jordach hears console peasant whispered 11:08 Krock ItsLuke|AwayBich, there's a function of IRC to mark you as afk 11:09 * Jordach renders a texture 11:09 * Krock renders Jordach 11:11 sfan5 Jordach: halp pls 11:11 Jordach wat 11:11 sfan5 Jordach: should I buy Portal 2? 11:11 Jordach sfan5, OR 11:12 sfan5 I dunno 11:12 Jordach ask me to login and setup family sharing, as i own it 11:12 sfan5 what else costs less than about 6€ 11:12 PenguinDad sfan5: Minetest :P 11:13 Krock ^ 11:14 PenguinDad Krock: I guess my eyes are too good then even though I need glasses o_O 11:14 Krock wat 11:16 * Jordach wondered how to create a liquid flowing, then realised Blender does something like that 12:08 Krock ignacio, you sure? 12:09 Jordach tl;dr Minecraft'd shit itself trying to do tihs https://cdn.mediacru.sh/0_YKdC7oofJx.png 12:09 Jordach (512px normals, height maps) 12:10 Krock > drawtime = 3 12:11 Krock I'm getting 40 or so. :/ 12:12 Megaf kaeza: That's a good quote in your signature 12:13 kaeza blame Some_Donkus 12:13 Rasmez Hello everyone! 12:14 kaeza hi 12:14 Inspire049 hey widdos 12:14 Inspire049 do it work? 12:14 kaeza wrong network 12:16 Jordach kaeza, i toxxed you 12:16 Megaf heh, so did I 12:16 kaeza eh I have no notifications 12:16 Jordach Megaf, hex code pls 12:17 kaeza Jordach, pls send again 12:17 Inspire049 hi 12:17 Inspire049 widdos u there? 12:17 Jordach id pls 12:18 kaeza Inspire049, go to kiwiirc.com, set digitalaudioconcepts.com as server, and #minetest as channel 12:18 Inspire049 what id? 12:18 Inspire049 i am on kiwiirc 12:18 Megaf kaeza: I added you again 12:18 * Jordach sends that 12:19 Megaf kaeza: is Tox p2p? 12:21 Jordach Megaf, not sure, but it might be 12:22 Megaf I think my qTox will crash 12:22 Megaf I tried to send you a screenshot but it's not responding now 12:22 Megaf Oh, it worked 12:22 RumiaGloop you done fucked up 12:22 kaeza Megaf, yes 12:23 Krock \o/ http://i.imgur.com/CKyifwE.png -> http://i.imgur.com/JO52k8T.jpg 12:24 RumiaGloop Krock: I don't get it 12:25 Krock RumiaGloop, I'm able to generate a map overview before it's actually generated in minetest 12:25 RumiaGloop oh. 12:26 * Jordach meows 12:32 George Have an error: mod Error:failed to load and run /home/giggles/minetestltextures.lua check debug for details? how do I get to debug? 12:32 Krock search debug.txt 12:32 Megaf sfan5: Ping 12:32 Krock or look in the console, there's the full error 12:33 George Where Krock? 12:33 Krock !wiki Troubleshooting 12:33 MinetestBot "This page lists common technical problems like crashes and error messages (enclosed in quotation marks) and possible solutions or explanations." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Troubleshooting 12:33 George ty I'll go there 12:34 Krock hmm thereos' no location 12:34 Krock *there's 12:37 * Jordach meows at sfan5 12:44 Krock ignacio, u still sure? 13:00 PenguinDad ignacio: Fix your connection 13:02 Krock PenguinDad, didn't get the message :3 13:03 mpa1212 Is there a framework/api/standard base for vehicles(Carts,cars,boats etc)? 13:04 Krock nope, it only exists for mobs 13:06 PenguinDad Krock: I just don't get it :P 13:08 deasanta mpat212 - let me know if you find a framework - otherwise look at default mod and https://github.com/deasanta/minetest-deasanta/tree/master/ds_rowboat 13:08 deasanta there is also a cars mod - framework / api may be good idea 13:08 deasanta hi 13:08 PenguinDad EHLO john_minetest 13:16 Megaf Hi john_minetest PenguinDad 13:16 Megaf whos using Tox? 13:17 Megaf I quite like it 13:18 deasanta sfan5 i think 13:21 SylvieLorxu john_minetest: That's planned, but true, not yet possible 13:31 tpe You can use the same account on other devices if you move the tox_save file around. 13:31 sfan5 john_minetest: cp ~/.tox/tox_save somewhere@else:~/.tox/tox_save 13:31 tpe Yeah, that. ;) 13:37 sfan5 wat 13:38 sfan5 thats like saying "Lol, anybox could just use my password and pretend to be me. That's pretty insecure." 13:38 sfan5 anybody* 13:54 jojoa1997 hi 13:54 Krock hi 13:54 jojoa1997 has key binding been added to Minetest yet? 13:55 Krock jojoa1997, WASD? 13:55 jojoa1997 no 13:56 Krock wat then 13:56 jojoa1997 As in binding the keys "[" and "]" to lower and raise gravity respectivally 13:56 jojoa1997 binding through mods 13:57 Krock but '[' = Alt + è 13:57 jojoa1997 fin 13:57 jojoa1997 As in binding the keys "l" and "o" to lower and raise gravity respectivally 13:58 jojoa1997 I guess the main problem is that keybindings are done before the mods are run and not ingame 13:58 reactor Gщщd evщning! 13:58 jojoa1997 yo 14:02 deasanta Krock - you can read the mouse position as an alternate option - self.object:setyaw(self.driver:get_look_yaw()-math.pi/2) 14:03 Krock deasanta, releated to which mod? 14:03 deasanta setyaw - comes from pilzadam boat mod 14:05 George Hi I'm in singleplayer mode how do I get sounds to work I hear walking but thats all I hear? 14:05 deasanta Krock, i've used the mouse in this https://github.com/deasanta/minetest-deasanta/tree/master/ds_rowboat - look at line 105 in init.lua 14:06 deasanta George, what about hitting a tree? are you playing minetest game or minimal game ? 14:07 George yes I the minial 14:07 George How do I get into regular mintest then? 14:08 Krock George, download a game! 14:08 Krock official: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game 14:08 deasanta start new game then select minetest instead on minimal from new game option 14:08 Krock http://wiki.minetest.net/Games 14:09 George you mean I have to reinstalll it? 14:09 Krock reinstall what? no. it's an addition to download 14:09 George ok ty 14:10 Krock np 14:13 Phroh|orca Any C# wrapper for engine/node logic? 14:13 Krock nope. I wish there would be one 14:13 Phroh|orca Ah, drats. Yeah that would be nice. 14:14 Krock start coding and be the first! 14:14 Phroh|orca All node logic is Lua, yes? 14:14 Phroh|orca I may look into it, ive never done an engine wrapper. 14:15 Phroh|orca Btw why was 'node' chosen over block? 14:16 Krock !wiki Terminology 14:16 MinetestBot No such page. 14:16 Krock !dev Terminology 14:16 PenguinDad As long as the C# api is optional it might probably be ok 14:16 MinetestBot "Minetest and its components" - http://dev.minetest.net/Terminology 14:16 Phroh|orca Sorry my client drops a lot 14:16 Krock ignacio, your connection is dead. give up. 14:16 Phroh|orca Whomever queried me, yeah i remember that project now! But minetest seems more advanced. 14:18 TenPlus1 hi folks... 14:19 sfan5 Phroh|orca: most of the node logic is in lua 14:20 PenguinDad Could someone please ban ignacio? 14:21 TenPlus1 sfan5, what kinda things are handled on the client-side when connected to a minetest server ? 14:23 sfan5 TenPlus1: rendering 14:23 sfan5 basically 14:23 sfan5 and inventory/formspec logicv 14:23 TenPlus1 ah, I was hoping to offload some of the player functions to the actual client to speed things up a tad on server... 14:24 TenPlus1 like, if there was a on_step available for clients that would handle player things like physics and damage etc... 14:24 TenPlus1 things the server doesnt need to really worry about 14:25 mpa1212 Is set_attached() bugged? I cant seem to controll where players are attached to 14:25 Phroh|orca The server needs that, to prevent cheating 14:25 Phroh|orca (If that is desired) 14:25 pitriss TenPlus1: errr damage, physics are things that server need to handle to make harder to cheat by hacked clients IMHO 14:26 Phroh|orca Wrt the Lua bridge; does lua call into the engine or does the engine read lua? (Im hoping the former) 14:27 pitriss ignacio: man you are annoying.. 14:27 TenPlus1 good point Phroh|orca, but if someone is already using a hacked client then they arent really PLAYING the game... 14:28 mpa1212 TenPlus1: But if it affects other people on the server then it should be decided by the server 14:28 Krock mpa1212, that's the target. if the player is attached to something, the player only moves if the "something" does 14:28 Krock mpa1212, see here for an example: https://github.com/SmallJoker/boost_cart 14:29 TenPlus1 e.g. in my playerplus mod, it wouldl be handy if the function for say touching a cactus and hurting the player could be done client-side so the server doesnt have to run through each user for that... in turn speeding up the server slightly 14:30 mpa1212 Krock: I understand that, but according to the doc it should be set_attach(parent, bone, position, rotation), and I can't get the position or rotation arguments to do anything visible 14:30 TenPlus1 to keep Xanadu running at a smooth pace I already have 5 mods merged into a single on_step so save server time... 14:31 Phroh|orca TenPlus1, in your opinion sure. In theirs they may just be having a good time with a custom client 14:31 Phroh|orca That interaction separation exist to enforce some type of sanity 14:31 TenPlus1 yeah, I see your point... 14:32 Krock ignacio, aagh 14:32 Phroh|orca But you should be able to change it, idk. Never played with the source. 14:32 Phroh|orca He's not hurting anyone.. 14:32 Krock it huts my eyes 14:32 TenPlus1 lol, am not gonna start compiling my own minetest to run on server... already have enough ppl asking me to use freeminer... 14:32 Krock failminer :D 14:32 TenPlus1 lol 14:33 TenPlus1 I try my best to have every mod running smooth on server and not lagg it crazy... 14:33 H-H-H i tried it and it laged so minetest it is for me 14:34 TenPlus1 how come freeminer can SUPPOSIDLY connect up to 50+ players on server without lagg ? 14:34 TenPlus1 do they have a different server concept? 14:34 mpa1212 Krock: Ok, thats somewhat of a lie, but the player is only attatched to that locatatoin in third person viwe 14:34 jin_xi it seems it needs more resources to run a fm server. on my crappy computer its too choppy for singleplayer 14:34 Krock mpa1212, ehm it's always attached to it until you detach. 14:35 TenPlus1 what spec is your system jin_xi ? 14:35 Krock jin_xi, exactly. they remove compatibility to older computers and get a faster seed in average 14:35 Krock *speed 14:35 TenPlus1 and removing the point of Minetest running on older systems... pah! 14:35 jin_xi http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/lenovo-g530-review/ <- this is it 14:36 Krock TenPlus1, minetest keeps its point but freeminer lost it.. 14:36 Phroh|orca How is the OS X compilation? (Easy, troublesome, etc) 14:36 Phroh|orca Plz not cmake 14:37 Krock why? cmake is nice 14:37 TenPlus1_ erg... badly made site is badly made... crashed Midori 14:37 TenPlus1_ can you send that link again plz 14:37 Phroh|orca Ive never had a gold experience with cmake 14:37 Phroh|orca Good* 14:37 mpa1212 Krock: I was unclear: When I attatch something (in this case to a player) with an offset, the offset does not the player themself, but only the model is offset (viewable by a third party/third person view) 14:37 Krock Phroh|orca, as long as you use the GUI, it's easy :P 14:37 mpa1212 in this case a player* 14:38 TenPlus1_ what time does VanessaE usually turn up ? 14:38 Krock mpa1212, are you targeting to the fact: 3rd person view is not affected by offset changes? 14:39 Krock TenPlus1, I would guess right now 14:39 TenPlus1_ Tried msg'ing her, no reply... 14:40 Krock people aren't sleeping in front of their screens. mostly. 14:40 TenPlus1 found a weird bug with signs_lib 14:40 Krock eeks, throw it away 14:40 Krock stand on it, so the bug dies 14:41 TenPlus1 it's the size of a small cat 14:41 Krock meow? 14:41 Phroh|orca Eat it 14:41 Phroh|orca Before it eats you 14:41 * TenPlus1 prepares the singapore noodles 14:41 PenguinDad eee​w 14:41 * Krock prefers pancakes 14:42 TenPlus1 mmm, pancake bug 14:42 Phroh|orca anyone have an answer to my earlier lua bridge question? 14:43 Krock nope. join #minetest-dev 14:43 TenPlus1 what was the question Phroh|orca ? 14:43 PenguinDad I kill bugs this way :D http://cdn.mspaintadventures.com/storyfiles/hs2/01131.gif 14:43 TenPlus1 seems effective 14:44 Jupsay hwllo 14:44 mpa1212 Krock: I am experiencing the opposite of that, first person view is not affected at all, only in third person can one see the offset. 14:44 TenPlus1 how can you shoot something so cute: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--8AXbDkYr--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/17ff9e22nn1mzjpg.jpg 14:45 Krock mpa1212, oh yes. I also noticed that. is there already an issue on github for this? 14:45 Krock TenPlus1, bigger. bigger. BIGGER! that's a bug. 14:46 * TenPlus1 hopes his github issues for new map functions were read 14:46 Krock which #? 14:47 TenPlus1 #1621 and #1626 14:47 Phroh|orca TenPlus1 i am hoping lua calls engine functions instead of the other way around 14:48 mpa1212 Krock: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/894 seems to be the closest to the issue 14:49 TenPlus1 doesnt the binary run LUA as JIT ? if so it should call functions as/when needed 14:49 * Krock gives TenPlus1 https://github.com/mniip/LUA 14:49 Krock the builtin lua isn't a JIT version 14:49 PenguinDad TenPlus1: LUA is not an acronym 14:49 PenguinDad *lua 14:50 Krock mpa1212, hmm that's not exactly the problem 14:51 Krock *creates a new issue after taking some screenshots* 14:51 TenPlus1 ooh, thx Krock... *reading* 14:51 Krock TenPlus1, it's Lua in caps. for LUA users 14:54 Jupsay i'm intrested in the interface of minetest, right now it's clunky, unpolished, frankly kind of ugly. 14:55 PenguinDad Jupsay: It looks better than mc's interface imo 14:55 TenPlus1 it does the job Jupsay although that's prolly why Minecraft uses huge images to overlay formspec and make things look more attractive 14:55 Krock go on, make us a better interface with nice textures :) 14:56 Jupsay aight, what do you guys use for your interface, is it all from scratch? 14:56 * TenPlus1 makes his interface look like the Amiga 600 gui :P 14:56 Krock TenPlus1, about #1621, bug hmmmm about this 14:58 TenPlus1 Krock: it should be easily tweaked to give decoration set height limits... 14:58 Krock yes it should be easy 14:58 TenPlus1 dunno about the Krock spawn_by for schematics though... 14:59 TenPlus1 er... dunno about the spawn_by for schematics though... just placement issues like centre_x/z 15:00 TenPlus1 would make maps a hell of a lot nicer having specific plant placements instead of coding a lto of on_generated crap 15:01 Krock mpa1212, we both were wrong. those both views are correct and it's not a bug. look at the function player:set_eye_offset( 15:03 mpa1212 Krock: Nice to know, thanks 15:04 Krock np 15:04 TenPlus1 why does the locked_chest have 4 different checks in the routine ?!?! only needs 1 when opened 15:05 TenPlus1 and 1 when destroyed 15:16 mpa1212 Krock: That function doesn't seem to be working for me :/ 15:17 Krock mpa1212, using latest minetest version? (0.4.10= 15:18 mpa1212 Yes ( a git version, so I'll update), is the function working for you then? 15:43 TenPlus1 lol, ds_rowboat mod is kinda kewl 15:59 Krock wtf I can't update my branch 16:00 Krock (github) 16:00 jp Megaf : server crashed ? 16:00 Krock rebased, pushed and pulled the stuff X times and it still givesme that stupid error >.< 16:01 TenPlus1 ? 16:10 jojoa1997 Lua thank you for making my programming class a breeze 16:13 Jordach llel 16:16 kaeza sfan5, ^ 16:16 kaeza pls 16:16 sfan5 kk 16:17 sfan5 !ban ignacio!*@*$##FIX_YOUR_CONNECTION 16:17 kaeza kthx 16:18 Krock <3 sfan5 16:20 * sfan5 meows at Krock 16:20 Krock target reached in 1.5 hours: Update a single branch to master 16:20 jojoa1997 yall evil 16:20 * jojoa1997 pets sfan5 16:21 TenPlus1 woah, the stargate network is expanding nicely :P 16:21 TenPlus1 ooh wrong window, sorry peeps 16:22 * kaeza noticed Krock likes colurz 16:23 * kaeza doesn't know if the middle link is yellow or green 16:23 kaeza yay color blindness 16:24 PenguinDad kaeza: the middle link is greed 16:25 PenguinDad *green 16:34 TenPlus1 bye folks :) 16:51 Krock diemartin, RGB format. 16:54 PenguinDad Krock: Rot Gelb Blau? :P 16:54 Krock AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 16:54 Krock *cries and runs away* 16:57 PenguinDad ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ 17:01 rubenwardy Hi all! 17:01 Krock Hi! 17:01 * rubenwardy is downloading kubuntu to try it out... 17:01 * Krock slaps rubenwardy with ReachtOS dev CD 17:01 Krock -h 17:02 * rubenwardy is open to suggestions for other debian based distros, but doesn't want to start a flame war. 17:02 Jordach rubenwardy, ubuntu 17:02 rubenwardy I currently use that :P 17:03 rubenwardy Unity is driving me insane. WHY DOES CLICKING ON FOLDER IN THE LAUNCHER OPEN A NEW WINDOW RATHER THAN SWITCHING??? 17:04 Krock Calinou, might I take your default_glass_*.png textures for my subgame? 17:06 jp rubenwardy : try Xubuntu or Lubuntu (for minimalism-taste) rather 17:06 jp Unity is a shit 17:07 * Krock punches Calinou softly 17:08 aldobr hi all 17:08 Krock hi lla 17:08 aldobr i am trying to use stack:get_wear() to detect if a stack is a tool 17:08 aldobr but it is returning 0 for non-tool stacks 17:08 aldobr anybody knows another way ? 17:09 Krock 0 because it can not have a wear 17:09 Krock what's the target? 17:09 aldobr but it was supposed to return nil 17:09 Krock nope.avi 17:09 aldobr when the stack is not a tool 17:09 aldobr then how to detect if a node is a tool or not ? 17:09 aldobr err, not a node, but a stack 17:09 Calinou Krock, yes 17:09 Krock Calinou, thanks. 17:10 Calinou it's trivial anyway 17:10 Krock !dev ItemStack 17:10 Krock !help 17:10 Krock mhm 17:10 rubenwardy I chose Kubuntu mainly because of the Kate editor (which requires KDE). And because it isn't Unity. I want a text editor which is like Notepad++, and not one with a steep learning curve like gVim. Sublime would be perfect, but is proprietary. The editor situation is the last straw potentially, but isn't the only problem. 17:10 Krock ^ sfan5 17:10 Krock aldobr, get_wear() returns tool wear (0-65535), 0 for non-tools 17:11 aldobr how can i differentiate from a pristine tool and a stack of non-tools ? 17:11 aldobr a recently crafted tool will have 0 wear too, right ? 17:11 Calinou rubenwardy, Geany? 17:11 Calinou Atom is pretty much a free ST replacement 17:11 jp KDE is extra-heavy :/ 17:11 Calinou it got faster recently 17:12 Krock aldobr, debug it. 17:13 PenguinDad jp: KDE isn't that heavy 17:13 witheld jp: it's not really particularly heavy 17:13 aldobr default:pick_mese -> true -> 0 default:mese -> true -> 0 17:13 witheld I mean my 2009 core2duo with 3GB of ram does it fine 17:13 jp heavier than Unity (saw on phoronix) 17:13 witheld Again 17:13 aldobr both a unused pick and a stack of mese return get_wear() = 0 17:13 witheld 2009 core2duo laptop 17:13 witheld If it's not heavy on that, I really don't care 17:14 jp look : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1310_desktops&num=2 17:14 witheld Let's go over real world data here: usable on a 2009 core2duo laptop 17:15 witheld with intel graphics 17:15 PenguinDad jp: that test was done over one year ago 17:15 witheld and I do mean completely usable, there's no real difference on the laptop and my Ivy Bridge desktop 17:15 jp I search for a recent one 17:15 witheld It's just not heavy on modern computers 17:15 witheld Or well, 2009 isn't -that- modern 17:15 witheld It's 2009 17:16 witheld If it's a problem for your computer, you probably need to use xfce/openbox/fvwm/etc 17:17 aldobr how to detect if a itemstack is a tool/wearable item ? 17:18 witheld And I'm not questioning your means or anything, if you can't run modern DEs that's fine, but the difference between the big DEs just isn't enough to matter, whatever the difference is 17:19 jp https://flexion.org/posts/2014-03-memory-consumption-of-linux-desktop-environments.html 17:19 witheld jp 17:19 witheld real world data 17:20 witheld Not benchmarks. What you can actually run on what hardware 17:20 witheld KDE is slightly less then Unity there, by 10 megs, and it just doesn't matter 17:20 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/PcBt0NEoBYnh.png 17:20 Jordach meow 17:21 Calinou desktop benchmarks are quite BS 17:21 PenguinDad Jordach: that uv looks strange 17:21 Jordach PenguinDad, i know, right 17:22 sfan5 ^ Krock 17:22 Jordach !up 86.165.122.34 17:22 Krock <3 17:22 Krock ^ sfan5 17:23 Jordach and i forgot my router isn't set to my actual tower 17:23 PenguinDad <3 MinetestBot 17:23 MinetestBot <3 PenguinDad 17:23 Jordach !up 86.165.122.34 17:23 Jordach MinetestBot! 17:23 MinetestBot Jordach! 17:25 witheld I really wish there was an API for the client to send files 17:25 witheld So we could have skins 17:25 Jordach witheld, there is 17:25 witheld Sent from the client that is 17:25 witheld Jordach: oh? 17:25 PenguinDad witheld: we already have skins 17:25 witheld No 17:25 Jordach simple php upload script that is sanitised as fuck, which then get dropped into player_textures/textures/ 17:26 witheld I know about that mod, I don't count it 17:26 sfan5 Jordach: did you know I have portal 2 now? 17:26 Jordach sfan5, i would have happily remote logged in and enabled family sharing so you can have my other games 17:26 jp Calinou : we need a different drawtype for the connected glass, or else you can have some invisible walls with the obsidian ones... 17:26 witheld Like I said, a API for the client to send files 17:26 jp it's rather annoying 17:27 witheld So that you're not going through some web interface to add your skin 17:27 Calinou jp, use a different texture 17:27 Calinou like in my PR 17:27 jp Obsidian included ? 17:27 Calinou PenguinDad's doesn't use different textures 17:27 Calinou yes 17:28 Jordach !up jordach.minetest.net 17:28 MinetestBot jordach.minetest.net:30000 is up (163ms) 17:28 rubenwardy I like Geany 17:31 RevMDent Anyone here able to answer a question about the is6d support in dir_to_facedir? Specifically: Why is dir.y being compared to dir.z instead of 0? 17:31 witheld http://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/1402914/tumblr_ncczy5rzUt1s2yegdo1_500.0.gif 17:37 Krock eww 17:37 rubenwardy Yay! 17:38 rubenwardy ow 17:38 rubenwardy Damn 17:38 Krock why? 17:39 rubenwardy Paused a 1gb download, and when resuming it is started from the beginning. Was at 75%. 17:39 rubenwardy Oh well, hurray for fibreoptic 17:39 Krock rubenwardy, use uTorrent 17:43 alket how to make fullscreen 17:44 ItsLuke f11 17:44 ItsLuke cmon nickname 17:44 ItsLuke change 17:48 Calinou ItsLuke, /nick Name 17:48 alket it doesn;t work 17:56 rubenwardy MMDB is getting server errors :( 17:58 kaeza alket, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L77-L80 18:02 Calinou ItsLuke|AwayBich, don't use away nicks 18:07 ItsLuke Calinou, What? 18:08 Calinou don't change your nick when you are away 18:08 ItsLuke Calinou, Why not? 18:09 Calinou because it's clutter 18:09 Calinou use an away status if you want (usually /away) 18:09 Animetrom Hi 18:10 Animetrom Hello 18:10 * Calinou facehooves 18:10 Calinou and don't call people bitches 18:17 DusXMT How do I view my achievements? (in case they're not vanilla, game: Carbone) 18:17 Krock Calinou! Carbone is called! 18:18 Animetrom Hi 18:18 Krock iH 18:18 PenguinDad hI 18:18 DusXMT jI 18:19 Calinou DusXMT, achievements are gone in Carbone 18:19 Calinou install the Awards mod from forums 18:19 Calinou I didn't find much use to it 18:20 Calinou anyway the command should be /awards 18:22 PenguinDad Would be nice if there were physical awards which you can put on your shelf :D 18:22 DusXMT Calinou: Strange, I keep getting "Achievement get" messages 18:22 DusXMT I didn't install anything else 18:23 Krock delete carbone sibgame and re-download it 18:23 Calinou update your copmy 18:23 Krock *subgame 18:23 Calinou -m 18:23 Calinou 3D printing, PenguinDad? 18:24 PenguinDad Calinou: I mean ingame "physical" 18:28 George Hi where do I put a game on a Linux os? 18:29 George I think it should be /usr/share/minetest/games? 18:29 jp your question is too vague, George 18:30 George okI'm using manjaro 18:30 Calinou George, install, compile, run. 18:30 Calinou the end 18:30 Calinou I mean git clone 18:30 George whitch folder dose the game go into 18:30 Calinou none. 18:31 Krock Calinou, he means subgames 18:31 Calinou games go to ~/.minetest/games 18:31 Calinou http://wiki.minetest.net/Getting_started 18:31 George yes the sub game 18:31 George ok ty 18:33 sandrossv if it must be system wide it should be at /usr/share/minetest/games 18:33 George thanks Sandrose 18:37 MinetestBot 02[Git] 04BlockMen -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Make new textures fit existing style 135047540 http://git.io/Sqlycg (152014-09-27T20:33:17+02:00) 18:38 MinetestBot 02[Git] 04Neuromancer56 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Some new textures (natural beauty texturepack) 139dfaab7 http://git.io/a5038A (152014-09-27T20:10:58+02:00) 18:38 PenguinDad textures yay 18:38 VanessaE new textures again? 18:38 VanessaE uh oph 18:38 VanessaE oh 18:39 alket how to make armor ? 18:39 VanessaE BlockMen: animated furnace 18:39 BlockMen yes 18:39 VanessaE mods/default/textures/default_furnace_front_active.png --> not an animated image 18:39 alket and do mobs actually die from sword ? 18:40 BlockMen VanessaE, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/textures/default_furnace_front_active.png 18:40 jp yeah, the furnace is now animated now :( 18:40 VanessaE alket: mobs will die from any tool or weapon that has the right groups setting 18:40 jp not* 18:40 VanessaE BlockMen: oh, stupid bot reported the commits out of order 18:40 Krock colors yay 18:41 BlockMen VanessaE, the second time today you blame the bot :D 18:41 VanessaE yep :) 18:41 * VanessaE kicks the bot squarely in the bolts. 18:42 PenguinDad VanessaE: MinetestBot isn't stupid! 18:42 alket VanessaE, what group setting ? 18:42 VanessaE alket: for example if a tool is set to be able to affect "fleshy" 18:43 VanessaE even if it isn't a sword 18:43 DusXMT alket: The same question was on my mind, and the answer seems to be yes, they just need a lot of hits 18:43 alket thanks 18:43 alket what about armor ? is there any ? 18:43 VanessaE therea re armor mods, yes 18:44 alket which one do you recomend 18:44 VanessaE 3d armor I think it's called 18:44 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4654 18:44 VanessaE that one 18:45 alket thanks 18:45 alket but it depends on some inventory 18:46 VanessaE yeah 18:46 VanessaE because the default inventory system in minetest has no place to actually show the armor 18:46 alket and there isn't a version for 4.10 18:46 sfan5 !tell asie http://i.imgur.com/JNZzzTl.jpg 18:46 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when asie is around 18:51 alket how to make /sethome available for all 18:51 VanessaE home priv 18:52 VanessaE put that in your default_privs= line 18:52 VanessaE e.g. default_privs = fast,shout,home 18:52 VanessaE etc 18:52 alket where is that file 18:52 VanessaE in your server's minetest.conf 18:56 alket VanessaE, it seems i dont have that file 18:56 alket is it here ~/.minetest/worlds/ 18:57 VanessaE check in the top level of your minetest folder, or in ~/.minetest 18:57 VanessaE right, go up one level 18:57 VanessaE ~/.minetest/minetest.conf 18:57 VanessaE that's where the line goes, but you should make a new config file for your server and reference that with the --config switch 18:57 VanessaE e.g. minetestserver --config ~/.minetest/minetest-server.conf or so. 18:58 VanessaE never mix server and client settings in the same file, it can confuse the server. 18:58 alket umm its too complicated 18:58 alket is there any other way to make home for players 18:58 VanessaE naw, it's easy 18:58 VanessaE you have to give them the priv by default. 18:58 VanessaE add it to that file like I said. it's only one line :) 18:58 alket and it will work ? 18:59 VanessaE yep, it should 18:59 alket what about that config thing 18:59 alket switch 19:00 alket do I need to restart server 19:02 blaise yes 19:02 lemonlake no 19:02 PenguinDad maybe 19:02 blaise alket: after changing minetest.conf you need to restart 19:02 alket i did , and its not working for players :s 19:02 alket default_privs = home 19:05 blaise players that have already join the server and established an account will not be changed 19:05 blaise this effects new users 19:05 alket how to make it for them ? 19:06 Krock add a mod to give them the privilege 19:06 blaise it's in .minetest/world//auth.txt 19:07 * Krock thinks, it's easier and safer to do it over mods 19:07 blaise if you have a lot of users to change then a mod would be the better choice 19:07 blaise but I couldn't suggest any as I don't know of any.. Krock might have a few though 19:07 Krock 5500 19:08 Krock ^ try to give them all a priv.. without fails 19:08 blaise I wonder why minetest doesn't use shadow.. 19:08 Krock it has shadows 19:08 blaise no, lol 19:08 blaise not actual shadows 19:08 blaise the program shadow 19:09 blaise for authentication 19:11 blaise http://shadow.pld.org.pl/ 19:12 blaise or http://pkg-shadow.alioth.debian.org/ 19:12 alket blaise, do they need to restart ? 19:13 blaise no 19:13 blaise just the server 19:14 blaise Krock: what is this 5500 you speak of? 19:14 Krock nvm. 19:17 * blaise pukes a little in his mouth 19:18 blaise !server lib 19:18 MinetestBot blaise: Liberty Land Minetest | m.ayntest.net | Clients: 19/45, 13/29 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / ayntest | Ping: 96ms 19:19 sfan5 !server players:most 19:19 MinetestBot sfan5: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 53/78, 55/74 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 57ms 19:20 blaise :o 19:20 Animetrom minecraft 19:21 Krock no. 19:22 Krock it's better than minecraft 19:22 blaise there's some kind of hiku being staged on liberty land 19:22 blaise lol 19:25 alket can I teleport some player ? 19:25 Krock if you have the "bring" privilege 19:28 Animetrom hi 19:28 Krock ih 19:28 alket Krock, im server admin , do i have it 19:28 Krock alket, /privs 19:31 jojoa1997 Jordach did you know that Minecraft has the option to have 3pixel wide arms? 19:34 PenguinDad SBS == Serious Block Size? 19:35 PenguinDad We already have a side by side mode 19:37 PenguinDad john_minetest: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L132-139 19:38 PenguinDad I dunno :/ 19:49 PenguinDad Formspecs look quite funny in side by side mode https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ZKAzTUWiYJDG.png 19:51 alket how to disable a mod ? 19:52 VanessaE click the world in your list, click "Configure", click the mod in the list that comes up, then un-tick the checkbox at the top of the list 19:52 alket VanessaE, thanks , now i get an error about Lua fuinction 19:52 VanessaE or delete the mod from your world's world.mt file 19:53 VanessaE you disabled some mod that some other mod needs. 19:57 VanessaE alket: think of it like dependencies in your system's repository - you can't install something like bash without having, let's say, glibc go in with it, because bash needs glibc. Minetest mods have a similar dependency resolver, it's just a bit more primitive by comparison 20:18 alket what is the use of gold , since you can't make a pickaxe 20:21 zlsa purely decorative 20:22 Megaf_ Whos using Tox here? Say your Tox ID on my pvt :) 20:23 * PenguinDad isn't 20:23 SylvieLorxu I don't know if I want to share my Tox ID with random Minetesters :P 20:23 VanessaE alket: it's also used on some servers as a currency and in some mods as a crafting item for other things 20:33 george dose anyone know how to fix errors in mods in single player mode? 20:34 Krock http://i.imgur.com/goxsKwi.png 20:34 Krock george, pastebin or it didn'thappen 20:35 VanessaE Krock: see? told you it would look better with a solid border. :) 20:35 Krock VanessaE, yeah. I think it looks better than Calinou's version :D 20:36 Krock ( https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/321 ) 20:36 VanessaE yep 20:36 VanessaE yours is better 20:36 VanessaE sorry Calinou :) 20:37 * shadowzone high fives Krock 20:37 * shadowzone gives VanessaE a +1 20:37 * Krock puts base_game in shadowzone's hand 20:37 * shadowzone pops it into her files and tries to remember what to do with it 20:41 george Krock do you mean in the bin folder? 20:41 friti VanessaE: I installed your Homedecor modpack yesterday, and even though you didn;t write the mod, do you happen to know why building_blocks would crap out saying "ERROR[main]: ...etest/bin/../mods/homedecor/building_blocks/init.lua:274: attempt to call method 'register_all' (a nil value)" ? 20:41 Krock george, yes. upload the last 20 lines of your debug.txt to a site like pastebin and then we'll see what's the error 20:42 george ok if I can find it llol 20:46 VanessaE friti: update your copy of moreblocks. it's outdated. 20:50 Calinou your textures are nice, Krock 20:50 Krock Calinou, most aren't mine :/ 20:50 Krock but thanks 20:51 * shadowzone throws a brick at her mod 20:51 * shadowzone walks away holding whats left of her mod(the textures) 20:52 VanessaE hm. first time in a while I started lagging on IRC> 20:53 shadowzone Hmm. 20:53 shadowzone Weird. 20:54 * Krock loves framed glass 20:54 nerotic vanessae? you here? 20:54 VanessaE no :) 20:54 Krock +1 20:54 nerotic Can i ask you something about pipeworks? 20:54 VanessaE sure 20:54 nerotic I cant get water to pump :P 20:55 nerotic I put a pump into water and nothings coming up :P 20:55 VanessaE is it plugged in? is it turned on? ;) 20:55 nerotic Plugged and turned on? 20:55 VanessaE it's a joke :P 20:55 nerotic oh lol 20:55 nerotic how do i get this to work? 20:55 VanessaE but seriously, you need to punch the pump to turn it on, or plug some mesecons circuit into it and supply a signal to turn it on 20:55 friti VanessaE: Here's a jumphug for you abd for Calinou. Updating moreblocks fixed similar errors in other mods as well! :-) 20:56 VanessaE nerotic: so you *literally* need to plug it in and turn it on ;) 20:56 Calinou hi shadowzone 20:56 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/2lS9CyZpY1xj.jpg 20:56 nerotic a pipe is put into the water leading to a pump and nothings happening 20:56 Calinou (totally changed since) 20:56 shadowzone Hi Calinou. 20:56 VanessaE nerotic: [09-27 16:57] but seriously, you need to punch the pump to turn it on, or plug some mesecons circuit into it and supply a signal to turn it on 20:56 nerotic Plug it in and turn it on? 20:56 nerotic oohhh 20:56 nerotic ok lol 20:56 VanessaE nerotic: so you *literally* need to plug it in and turn it on ;) 20:57 Krock Calinou, .jpg is cool, eh? 20:57 nerotic uh i put a lever on it\ 20:57 nerotic wtf 20:57 VanessaE nerotic: any mesecons circuit 20:57 Calinou no point in PNG screenshots most of the time 20:58 VanessaE nerotic: or like I just said, *punch* the pump to turn it on/off 20:58 PenguinDad Calinou: looks deformed :P 20:58 george what folder would the debug.txt be in please I'm in linux 20:58 VanessaE george: in ~/.minetest 20:58 VanessaE or in the top level of your minetest directory 20:58 george ok ty 20:59 nerotic vanessa is there a video on youtube on pipeworks 20:59 nerotic because this is not helpful whatsoever 20:59 VanessaE nerotic: there are some videos but I don't know what they are (I didn't make any) 20:59 VanessaE nerotic: just place a pump, hook up a pipe, and PUNCH the pump once. 20:59 nerotic the picture on Fluid transport on your wikiish, wouldnt work cuz i copied it 20:59 Krock Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/yWjwsD7.png 21:00 VanessaE nerotic: if the light turns green, the pump is on 21:00 nerotic wouldnt the pipes turn on too? 21:00 nerotic the pipes have a grey light on them that isnt turned on 21:01 VanessaE the pipes will start filling after a few seconds 21:01 VanessaE if the pump is above or in water and it's turned on, and there's a spigot or fountainhead in the circuit 21:01 nerotic how do i tell if they are filling 21:01 kaeza no point in PNG screenshots most of the time 21:01 VanessaE the little dark grey circles on the pipes will turn blue 21:01 kaeza but hurr durr jperrg arrtirrfacts 21:01 nerotic its not blue 21:01 sfan5 kaeza: ew jpeg 21:01 nerotic i have a pipe inside the water leading to the pump 21:02 PenguinDad john_minetest++ 21:02 VanessaE nerotic: no, it doesn't work like that 21:02 VanessaE nerotic: you have to put the pump in the water 21:02 VanessaE nerotic: [water][pump][pipe================][spigot] 21:02 Krock jpeg is perfect to make an image 5 times smaller with no big quality loss 21:02 Krock MinetestBot! 21:02 MinetestBot Krock! 21:02 VanessaE nerotic: it's a so-called "submerged" or "sump" pump 21:03 george it was stairing me in the face daaaa lol 21:03 george 16:46:59: ERROR[main]: /home/giggles/.minetest/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png 16:46:59: ERROR[main]: GUIFormSpecMenu::drawMenu() Draw images unable to load texture: 16:46:59: ERROR[main]: /home/giggles/.minetest/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png 16:46:59: ERROR[main]: GUIFormSpecMenu::drawMenu() Draw images unable to load texture: 16:46:59: ERROR[main]: /home/giggles/.minetest/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png 16:46 21:03 VanessaE nerotic: you put the pump itself into the water and then run pipes from there to where you need the water. 21:03 VanessaE george: next time use a pastebin please. 21:03 VanessaE george: but, you can ignore those "errors", they're not-fatal 21:03 * kaeza throws screenshot_1337.bmp at sfan5 21:04 sfan5 kaeza: bmp is pretty ok 21:04 george the game wount let me login 21:04 kaeza and... uncompressed! mwahahaha 21:04 nerotic what does the spigot do? 21:05 nerotic i want the water to like go somewhere, into a tank or poor somewhere 21:06 george where do I find pastbin? 21:06 VanessaE a spigot pours water out of the pipes into a hole or so. 21:06 Krock george, you too? I guess it has been fixed since a long time 21:06 VanessaE george: pastebin.com, pastebin.ubuntu.com, etc. 21:06 VanessaE nerotic: a spigot pours water out of the pipes into a hole or so. a fountainhead creates...fountains :) 21:06 Krock ./topic 21:06 VanessaE nerotic: there are tanks but they don't hold water yet. 21:06 george do you mean in the forum? 21:07 Krock " Use https://mediacru.sh for images and http://pastie.org for text " 21:07 VanessaE george: go to pastebin.com, ubuntu.pastebin.com, or any similar site 21:07 VanessaE paste your text there 21:07 VanessaE give us the URL 21:07 Krock gimme gimme 21:08 Krock john_minetest, do you have a forum acc? just wonder. 21:09 Krock ah okay 21:09 nerotic does pipeworks go with buildtest too? 21:09 nerotic i wanted to put water in a combustion engine and i think that might work 21:09 george its in the bin ty 21:11 george with disabling the mods it will not let me log in to singleplayer 21:11 VanessaE nerotic: what's buildtest? 21:11 PenguinDad nerotic: You want to produce dihydrogen dioxide? 21:11 nerotic mod 21:11 Krock george, https://www.google.com/search?q=%2B"no_screenshot.png"+site%3Airc.minetest.ru 21:11 jojoa1997 Hi 21:11 Krock so many help requests already 21:11 nerotic Anyone know how to make buildtest combustion engines run? 21:11 george going there ty 21:12 jojoa1997 [17:11:30] so many help requests already 21:12 jojoa1997 For what? 21:13 Krock jojoa1997, for that no_screenshot.png bug.. are they all using a stable version which contains the fail? 21:13 Krock george, you only need to download a single texture and paste it in the correct folder to fix this problem 21:13 Krock source file: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png 21:14 Krock target file: /.minetest/textur​es/base/pack/no_screenshot.png 21:15 Krock uuh. 5 chat messages in a line. 21:15 PenguinDad C-c-combo breaker! 21:16 Krock \o/ 21:17 george so I have to get a pic out of one of the mods that errors show up in ? 21:18 Krock re-phrase pls 21:18 george sorry for all this trouble 21:19 PenguinDad george: you rather have to wget it ;) 21:19 Krock you won't die because of this. good night y'all 21:21 george Sorry but I didn't understand what to do with these errors 21:23 Calinou Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/yWjwsD7.png 21:24 Calinou I have such a thing too (Thunar action), but the game directly screenshots in JPEG, which is a good thing 21:24 Calinou (I believe games should screenshot PNG only when told to, as screenshots are likely to be sent over the Internet) 21:24 Calinou eg. Shift + screenshot key, option 21:24 Calinou uncompressed formats save quickly, not much point 21:30 shadowzone Krock left.. 21:30 shadowzone * Krock has quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) 21:31 friti Darn. Krock is offline. Wanted to ask him what to enter when his .Net program when it asks for a path to a bunch of images 21:32 friti Anyone else that perhaps could help me updating the skins for the u_skins mod? I am stumbling around in the dark here 21:34 george I just pasted my errors again hope some one can help 21:34 george in pin.org 21:35 VanessaE george: give us the full address of the error paste 21:35 VanessaE copy&paste the address of the web page that was given back to you after you submitted your paste to it 21:36 george http://pastie.org/9600478 sorry 21:36 VanessaE those errors are supposed to be non-fatal? 21:37 george It locked me out of minetest grrrr 21:38 george Should I uninstall mine test and reinstall it? 21:38 Calinou new default textures are much better 21:38 Calinou gravel still needs improvements :( 21:38 Calinou same for leaves 21:39 jp I think the cobbles are a bit too 'squared' 21:39 jp not enough oval 21:40 jin_xi_ yay. now i only got to make particle spawners that spawn a fixed amount of particles and then delete themselves 21:41 jin_xi_ oh and how do i get rid of that _ again? 21:42 PenguinDad jin_xi_: /nick jin_xi 21:42 jin_xi_ oh so simple 21:42 jin_xi thanks 21:43 friti So... I got the u_skins mod, and now i wish to update the skins. Running update_from_db.py results in the following error: http://pastebin.com/t1bTzkub 21:45 George I did a screen capture here is the address http://imgur.com/fvsDZ3m 21:50 George http://imgur.com/fvsDZ3m 21:51 friti George: I may be a noob at installing mods in MT, but i do know that the format is /home/giggles/.minest/mods//textures/ and init.lua should be in home/giggles/.minest/mods/ 21:52 George I'm in manjaro Linus distro Friti 21:53 friti George: Did you happen to have installed minetest from your distro's repositories? 21:53 George yes 21:53 George should uninstall it and reinstall it? 21:53 friti Get rid of it. I had similar issues, only i am on Kubuntu. Get the package from the webvsite instead 21:53 friti Or better yet, compile it yourself 21:54 friti Manjaro is Debian-based? 21:54 George don't knoe how to compile it sorry I'm not that smart lol 21:54 kaeza George, you are uncompressing the mod directly into `mods/`. check that the mod is stored as a subdirectory of `mods/` 21:55 friti Well, Manajaro is arch based. That sucks a little. 21:55 friti Because i have a script that i know will work in Debian based distros. It will prolly fail in Arch-based distros 21:55 George ok I'[ll unstall and start over ty 21:56 blaise George: is this linux or windows? 21:56 George Frito ty for your help 21:56 George linux 21:56 friti George, can you use the online mods repository from within the program? 21:56 blaise George: did you compile it already? 21:56 blaise latest git has the online mod store working properly 21:57 friti blaise: [14:54:32] [[ George ]] don't knoe how to compile it sorry I'm not that smart lol 21:57 George I installed it fron the terminal 21:57 blaise ah, well the instructions are inside the README 21:57 kaeza people, this is not an issue with compilation, it's a simple mistake at unpacking mods 21:57 exio4 compiling is the solution 21:57 exio4 don't you get it kaeza?? DON'T YOU? 21:57 * kaeza hugs exio4 21:57 kaeza <3 21:58 exio4 we should play cards against humanity 21:58 exio4 not safe for work game 21:58 George ok i'll leave anmd reinstall it tonight bue 21:58 exio4 nsfw, not you 21:58 blaise and if you're doing run in place then you wanna put your mods in the mods dir inside the git clone 21:58 kaeza <_< 21:58 friti kaeza: I beg to differ. The issue with the missing screenshots isexactly what i had after installing MT from the Ubuntu repos/. 21:59 blaise if it's installed system wide, then you are going to want ~/.minetest/mods/ 21:59 blaise ah, he quitty 21:59 kaeza friti, issue I see is http://imgur.com/fvsDZ3m 21:59 kaeza he's dead Jim ;_; 22:00 PenguinDad Shit Spock died again! 22:00 friti That is one issue, the other was http://pastie.org/9600478 wich is non-fatal, but still symptomatic 22:01 blaise looks like he made a textures dir inside his mod dir and apparently there's an init.lua in there 22:01 blaise so, that's not right at all 22:01 blaise lmao 22:01 friti The mods issue is caused by mis-installing the mod. My guess is that George chose that method of installation after the online mods repo failed to work 22:02 friti Heck, clicking the button originally caused my MT to crash! 22:02 blaise lol 22:17 friti Installing Manjaro in a VM now, i need to know how hard it is to get my build script toi work in it! :-) 22:18 H-H-H friti im running manjaro lol could test it? 22:23 friti H-H-H: Sure! Could you see if, and if so, how this script needs to be changed to work on Manjaro? http://pastebin.com/D0d6hJU2 22:24 friti Especially the first line, where it attempts to install the libs, build dependencies and stuff. 22:26 H-H-H hmmm ive already built it on here so i already have the libs installed 22:28 friti H-H-H: Yes, but what would be the comandline to install anything? I know that Manajaro uses Octopi and a graphical package manager. But what does its backend use? 22:29 H-H-H pacman 22:29 H-H-H pacman -S packagename 22:29 H-H-H has to be run as sudo 22:29 friti okay, thanks! And yeah, sudo is standard 22:30 H-H-H well no errors so far and its building 22:30 H-H-H also manjaro/arch doesnt have -dev packages 22:30 friti I donlt think there is a single linux distro that allows software installations without root access 22:30 friti Well, i will see what problems i will run into :-) 22:32 H-H-H but its building happilly 22:32 H-H-H could also maybe change the script so it looks for minetes dir in current dir then if not found does the git clone if it does then just cd into it and doo a pulll 22:33 H-H-H pull 22:33 H-H-H minetest* bah my typos 22:34 DusXMT friti: Guix and Nix allow user-mode package installation ;) 22:35 DusXMT And you can also install them by hand into something like $HOME/.local 22:37 friti DusXMT: Never heard of those distros. I'll bet you had to look hard for them :-) 22:37 H-H-H me either 22:38 friti H-H-H: feel free to add that to the script, and if i like how it works, i will keep it in (i love open source stuffs :-)) 22:38 * H-H-H is now running freshly built minetest 22:39 friti Mintest, built from the freshest ingedients!!! 22:40 DusXMT friti: Not that much actually, since they're in my current field of interest, considering what they have to offer technology-wise (reproducible builds, rollbacks and user-based package management is nice imho) 22:40 PenguinDad mmmh freshly make'd minetest :D 22:43 DusXMT I wonder, what is thedeadly green goop supposed to be? 22:44 friti Deadly green goop? 22:44 friti That did not ooze out of MT, did it? 22:44 DusXMT Hmm, might be added by a mod then, I should check the mods I'm playing with befoee I ask questions (what happens when you're playing a subgame and are new to MT) 22:45 * friti is an MT noob too :-) 22:46 H-H-H only green stuff i know of is stuff from the slimes mod 22:47 DusXMT hmm, then it's definitely from a mod. It's like water but green, and it hurts you if you go into it. I think it's acid or something 22:48 * friti is considering running a server. Not yet certain with what mods. 22:49 PenguinDad DusXMT: are you using carbone? 22:49 DusXMT PenguinDad: yup 22:49 H-H-H thats not from slimes mod as the slimes mod is kinda dark gren and you can collect it and t says it is glue 22:49 PenguinDad Then it's most likely acid 22:50 DusXMT s/most likely/definitely/ 22:51 friti DusXMT: Can youfill a bucket with the stuff? If so, great for PvP :-) 22:52 PenguinDad friti: Acid in a bucket is insecure :P 22:53 DusXMT No, I tried it, doesn't work 22:53 friti Okay, then put it in a plastc tub ;-) 22:53 DusXMT I wouldn't be asking if I did, as the tooltip would say the name ;) 22:54 friti DusXMT: Sometimes the bleeding obvious escapes the smartest of us ;-) 22:56 friti When i worked as an admin at a school for vocational education, the IT professor called the helpdesk saying that his mouse and keyboard weren;t working. Turned out that he hooked up the mouse and keyboard the wrong way around (both had PS/2 connectors) 22:58 friti And for those that do not know what PS/2 connectors are (and i am sure there are some here), it's these lovelies: https://www.kvmgalore.com/shopping/userfiles/GLS_PS2-M.jpg 22:58 DusXMT heh, ps/2 isn't as vintage as you think 22:59 friti DusXMT: I know that, bit soome people never even seen a PS/2 port 23:00 friti *but 23:00 exio4 my keyboard is PS/2 23:00 exio4 the best keyboard I ever had 23:01 * DusXMT likes his backlit USB keyboard 23:01 DusXMT visible letters in the dark are nice 23:02 exio4 I rarely look at the keyboard 23:02 friti To be honest, i like USB better than ps/2. You wouldn;t believe how often i had to replace a PC because someone unplugged a mouse or keyboard without turning the machine off first. 23:03 Jordach wat 23:03 Jordach wat 23:03 exio4 I never unplug my keyboard that way 23:03 Jordach turn it off and on again as it doesn't support hotplugging 23:03 exio4 still 23:03 exio4 I hotplug my harddisks more often than I do that 23:04 DusXMT I have to look at the keyboard as a consequence of working on several computers, each with different keyboards and keyboard layouts. It's just impossible to get used to all of them at once 23:08 Jordach QWERTY master race 23:25 friti H-H-H: I had to install cmake, openal and irrlicht in Manajaro. It is building now (50%) 23:26 H-H-H yeah but i dont think most will have sdl stuff from a basic install 23:27 friti This *is* a basic install 23:28 H-H-H o maybe im wrong then lol 23:28 friti Heck, it even had git installed by default! I am so surprized!!!! 23:29 H-H-H seriously? mine didnt ,what version and DE did you install 23:29 friti AHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Now i am getting libGL errors. I'd bet that's because of missing libs! 23:30 friti And i installed Manjaro KDE 64bit 23:30 H-H-H ahhh i use xfce 23:30 H-H-H 32bit 23:31 friti I will test with xfce too.... later. :-) 23:32 friti And after that, i will try pure arch, to make sure i didn;t miss anything 23:33 friti There, didn;t have 3D accelleration enabled in my VM settings. Let's see what happens now :-) 23:35 friti Hmmmm... The build runs now, but ca'tt seem to reach the mods repo. Investigating... 23:36 H-H-H did ya set up the network interface 23:36 H-H-H oh nvm lol you wouldnt have been able to git clone if you hadnt 23:44 friti Weird thing is that in MT, the repo times out, but it is reachable by browser. 23:45 H-H-H there was a bug mentioned about the online mod repo in MT but i thought it was fixed in git master 23:46 friti H-H-H: I have no problems using the mod repo in the build on my actual system. Kubuntu with KDE, 64bit 23:47 H-H-H ooo do you have curl ? 23:47 friti I do. 23:47 H-H-H in the VM i mean 23:48 friti Me too 23:48 H-H-H then im out of ideas lol 23:48 friti BUT! Perhaps it needs more? I have curl, lib32-curl, and python2-pycurl 23:49 * H-H-H scratching head thinking something bout vurl http 23:49 H-H-H or even curl 23:49 friti I'll try a few things..... 23:49 George Whats the fly comand ? 23:50 H-H-H double tap use key if set in the settings menu 23:51 George reinstalled minetest and its working well 23:51 George ok ty 23:51 H-H-H look in settings menu you will see it 23:52 Megaf_ Hi, anyone else experiencing this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1697 23:53 H-H-H not me but it looks to me to be display driver related maybe ? 23:54 friti H-H-H: No joy. Installed all packages that have "curl" in their name, but no change 23:54 H-H-H hmmm let me retest mine 23:54 friti kk 23:54 friti BRB 23:57 H-H-H hmmm mine seems to work fine :| 23:57 friti Megaf_: It happens to me every now and then, but a next time it works well. So it is hard to repro 23:58 Megaf_ friti: Can you comment there confirming the bug please?