Time Nick Message 15:11 cities I'm from efnet 15:12 cities does this network have channel and nick registration services 15:13 PenguinDad cities: of course freenode has 15:13 cities Ive been on efnet for so long 15:13 cities they have none 15:26 blaise yes, on efnet we must actively keep our nick 15:28 cities you on efnet too blaise 15:32 blaise cities: yerp 15:33 ShadowNinja cities: Not entirely, they do have ChanFix. 15:33 cities yeah 15:33 blaise chanfix seems to be unrelyable.. 15:33 cities its actually worked pretty well 15:33 cities for me 15:34 blaise sometimes it works great, other times it'll deop me in a channel I've been holding for 20 years 15:34 cities wow really 15:35 blaise no big deal, that's what bots are for 15:35 cities :) 15:35 blaise cd ~/minetest && git pull 15:36 blaise oops 15:36 ShadowNinja num_times_irc_used_as_shell++; 15:37 blaise got a little excited with my alt-tabbyness 15:56 blaise !server midnightsystems 15:56 blaise :o 15:56 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 1/10, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 260ms 15:57 Amaz !server Lord of the Rings 15:57 MinetestBot Amaz: No results 15:58 Amaz !server lott 15:58 MinetestBot Amaz: No results 15:58 Amaz :( 16:01 jp if you cut the screen from a laptop, it may be normal to have a slower wifi connection then ? 16:04 George__ Hi how do you turn over stone ? 16:04 George__ or any block like wood? 16:04 Jordach -!- Question doesn't make sense, try again. 16:05 MinetestBot john_minetest: Lord of the Test hosted by OldCoder | minetest.org:30020 | Clients: 0/20, 1/9 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / lott_game | Ping: 1079ms 16:05 blaise jp: eh, no. 16:05 jp blaise : my connection became suddently slow after that 16:06 blaise jp: you should notice the wireless antennas, they are little wires comming from the wireless device inside the laptop case 16:06 George__ ok I eane to put a decoradive stine on my cassel and I'm usinf stars to do it but I need them 108 % 16:06 blaise and it's entirely possible that you screwed up some shielding which is interfering with your wireless connection 16:06 jp blaise : ok, I'll take a look into it 16:07 jp I thought there was some wifi devices hidden in the screen, to amplify the signal or so 16:07 blaise jp: why would you want to remove the screen? 16:07 jp because it was dead 16:07 jp I cut the plastic, cables, etc 16:08 George__ I've seen it done in youtube vedios 16:08 blaise jp: it's entirely possible that the antenna be in the lid, 16:08 blaise jp: which is why I ask, why did you "Cut" the screen off? 16:08 jp indeed, that why I asked... 16:08 blaise did you use a pair of lawn shears? 16:09 blaise a hand saw? 16:09 jp wood & metal saw 16:09 blaise why didn't you use a screw driver?! 16:09 Hobodium Screw drivers don't cut things well, duh! 16:09 blaise he shouldn't have cut anything off 16:10 jp I cut it because it was annoying to have this dead thing ahead me (I relied the computer to a TV) 16:10 blaise if the screen is broke, and you want it off the device.. great 16:10 jp I prefer the brutal method 16:10 jp screwdiver is more long 16:10 blaise but lcd screens arn't that expencive.. 16:11 jp 30$ on ebay 16:11 blaise and, you could have destroyed something in the laptop by using a saw.. 16:11 blaise so why potentialy waste $30 ? 16:12 jp there was some different cable into the plastic 16:12 Hobodium I think you are generally unlikely to do much damage to a laptop by just cutting off the screen. They don't usually stick anything that important in the lid. 16:12 blaise NO KIDDING 16:12 blaise Hobodium: aside from the LVDS cable, yes? 16:12 blaise which could have shorted out the laptop motherboard 16:13 Hobodium I doubt a low voltage cable is going to short much out, even fi you did manage to actually short anything 16:13 jp I think I can compensate this damage by increasing the wifi signal 16:13 blaise lol 16:13 blaise jp: what's the purpose of this machine? 16:14 jp internet naviguation mainly 16:14 Hobodium Also, the cable tends to come from the LCD panel itself from the ones I've worked on, so you can still replace it technically. Maybe he can use his saw to make a new frame for the lid! 16:14 jp -u 16:14 blaise I've always used pizza boxes 16:15 blaise it's neat becuase as they stack on the floor it's like a server rack.. 16:15 blaise but pizza boxes.. 16:15 blaise but it's humming... 16:16 Hobodium Just need to make sure nobody tosses out the pile of pizza boxes 16:16 blaise I keel j00 and your pizza box stealing madness 16:19 George__ how do you turn a block of wood on its side so the grain is going vertical nor horazonal? 16:20 George__ sorry fpr the spelling 16:21 George__ fpr not fpr 16:21 jp https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4807 16:22 jp or : https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10047 (not sure it work for 6d) 16:23 jp moreblocks have "horizontal" trees nodes iirc 16:24 blaise George__: use a screwdriver 16:25 blaise George__: and wooden planks are different then wood 16:25 blaise George__: wood looks like a section of a log 16:25 George__ ok ty 16:41 * blaise feeds Amaz to MinetestBot 16:41 Amaz :( 16:41 * blaise sprays Amaz with bbq sauce 16:41 * Amaz think that is unnecessary! 16:41 * Amaz think that is even more unnecessary! 16:42 * blaise lights the grill on fire 16:42 * blaise gives Amaz a big smile 16:43 * Amaz runs away! 16:43 cities Hey any public servers running the Carbone mod? 16:44 cities That's one that looks interesting to me to try 16:44 cities Or game rather 16:44 cities I may be using wrong terminology 16:45 MinetestForFun the carbone subgame is used in many server but "in part" 16:45 MinetestBot rubenwardy: 09-23 00:57 UTC your nodebox editor is incredible. 16:45 MinetestForFun because the carbone subgame is very light, it needs more mods :p 16:45 jordan4ibanez That's awesome 16:46 rubenwardy Hi all! 16:46 rubenwardy Thanks, jordan4ibanez :P 16:46 jordan4ibanez Hello 16:46 jordan4ibanez And you're welcome! 16:47 Krock Heya 16:47 MinetestForFun someone can help me ? i don't understand very good the "farming (redo)" mod, i don't know why, but i can't found the "forest soil 1, 2, 3, 4) of the mod, for begin my farm... 16:47 Jordach shitcicles 16:47 Jordach i broke left mouse 16:47 MinetestForFun Hi rubenxardy 16:47 MinetestForFun rubenwardy* 16:47 Krock Jordach, -button? 16:48 Jordach yeas 16:48 Krock MinetestForFun, you're sure it's not a dirt group? 16:48 cities Ok 16:48 cities Very light mod 16:48 Jordach i even took it apart and clicked all of the microswitches 16:49 Krock Jordach, good old' mice with wheel. alive since 1997 16:49 Jordach Krock, it cost £3 16:50 cities Man can I leave work yet 16:50 Krock ^ you can 16:50 Hobodium Well, you can. Probably not a good idea though. 16:51 cities I wanna go home and play 16:51 cities The game 16:52 blaise I can't seem to get either one of these fishing mods to work 16:52 blaise I mean, I can fish.. 16:52 blaise but I don't catch anything 16:52 blaise like,evahh 16:54 blaise WOOOHOOOOO!!!!! [U] == media-libs/mesa (10.2.7@09/19/2014; (~)10.2.7 -> (~)10.3.0): OpenGL-like graphic library for Linux 16:54 * PenguinDad meows at blaise 16:56 * Krock checks out latest commits and decides if he should compile or not 16:56 * sfan5 meows at blaise 17:01 cities my 5 year old daughter 17:01 cities she loves sitting with me when I play Minecraft 17:01 cities so last night she asked to play minecraft 17:02 cities I said I'm not playing minecraft, I'm going to play Minetest 17:02 doomtron kkkk 17:02 sfan5 o/ hoodedice 17:02 cities "but I don't want minetest! I want minecraft!" 17:02 cities but dear its a free open source alternative 17:02 cities she didn't care 17:02 sfan5 lol 17:04 DusXMT I;ve just found out that diving in minetest is really fun, I like it 17:04 hoodedice came on for ##java, sorry 17:05 sfan5 hoodedice: do you even java? 17:06 * Sokomine shoots whoever did the strange slabs in realtest 17:06 MinetestBot Sokomine: 09-23 06:43 UTC Hi there is a bug with your spraybooth. When you "take the output" and then place it in your inventory where there is already something else, that something gets deleted. Normal behaviour would be that that something then hangs at the cursor and can be placed somewhere else. 17:06 Sokomine !tell est31 that's a known bug in the engine/builtin. i hope it will get fixed eventually. it's issue #944 17:07 MinetestBot Sokomine: 09-23 06:47 UTC ok, you noticed that yourself already. #944 17:07 MinetestBot Sokomine: I'll pass that on when est31 is around 17:07 rubenwardy lol 17:07 Sokomine *g* 17:07 Sokomine hope that bug gets fixed eventually 17:08 PenguinDad hoodedice: I always come on for ################doweneedmore#s :P 17:08 Krock cities, too young to understand what "open source" means? 17:08 cities lol 17:08 cities kind of 17:10 sfan5 !tell sfan5_ test 17:10 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever 17:10 sfan5_ meow 17:10 MinetestBot sfan5_: 09-26 17:10 UTC test 17:10 sfan5 hm 17:10 sfan5 that seems to work 17:12 doomtron isnt minetest free software? 17:12 sfan5 yes 17:12 MinetestBot sfan5: 09-26 17:12 UTC You will receive a fish now. 17:12 sfan5 :3 17:12 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((-< 17:12 * sfan5 noms the fish 17:13 cities are you a cat 17:14 cities or a shy guy from Mario Kart 8 17:14 cities which reminds me what is the purpose of a nyan cat block 17:14 sfan5 I'm a cat 17:14 sfan5 nyan cat? purpose? 17:14 doomtron i want tolisten 17:14 sfan5 those two words do not fit together ;) 17:14 cities you're right 17:14 cities my question is moot 17:15 blaise lol 17:15 PenguinDad sfan5: three words ;P 17:16 sfan5 oh 17:16 sfan5 right 17:16 * blaise sips his coffee 17:16 sfan5 !c len("nyan cat purpose".split(" ")) 17:16 MinetestBot 3 17:17 cities so you can craft nyan cat blocks 17:17 cities and their rainbows 17:18 sfan5 no 17:18 sfan5 you can only find them 17:18 cities really 17:18 sfan5 !wiki Nyan Cat 17:18 cities so they exist somewhere 17:18 MinetestBot "Nyan Cats are extremely rare blocks." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Nyan_Cat 17:18 cities hah 17:19 Krock cities, I saw a mod which allows you to craft rainbows 17:19 cities that is hilarious 17:19 cities and bizarre 17:20 Krock Added 7 mods and updated 5 (Mod Search) 17:20 blaise apparently with neogloops mod, you end up with rainbow caves 17:20 cities blaise do you play on a multiplayer server 17:20 cities so before I understood what happens when you die on there 17:20 sfan5 !wiki Nyan Cat Rainbow 17:20 MinetestBot "Nyan Cat Rainbows are extremely rare blocks, found in proximity of 02Nyan Cats." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Nyan_Cat_Rainbow 17:20 blaise I run a multiplayer server 17:21 cities someome says to me 17:21 cities have you seen my bones 17:21 cities I'm thinking.. 17:21 cities umm not lately 17:21 cities blaise which one is yours 17:21 rubenwardy Any recommendations for text / code editors on Ubuntu based operating systems? Sublime or Notepad++ would be perfect, except the first is proprietary and the second is windows only. I don't really want a full IDE. 17:21 blaise !server midnight 17:21 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/10, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 125ms 17:22 cities oh nice 17:22 blaise cities: which one is yours? 17:22 cities lol...are you asking if I run a multiplayer server 17:22 blaise rubenwardy: gvim or vim? 17:22 blaise rubenwardy: or emacs if you can stand it? 17:23 doomtron vim, emacs, nano, gedit 17:23 rubenwardy Currently looking at Kate 17:23 rubenwardy gedit is what I am moving from 17:23 blaise meh, that's kde dependent 17:23 rubenwardy ogh 17:23 rubenwardy oh 17:23 rubenwardy Vim looks a bit ugly in the screenshots, but I'll give it a try. 17:24 rubenwardy reminds me of Vimto 17:24 cities I want to check out your server 17:24 cities I may already have 17:24 doomtron https://xkcd.com/378/ 17:24 doomtron I use nano most of time 17:25 Krock <3 C# 17:25 cities i tried to go to midnightsystems.net as a webpage 17:26 PenguinDad eee​w C# 17:26 cities to see if any server info/world map was there 17:26 blaise hrmm 17:26 blaise I need to do work on my car 17:26 Krock erlehmann 17:27 blaise oil change, filters, plugs'n'wires 17:27 blaise but I have my son to look after 17:27 blaise :G 17:27 PenguinDad Krock 17:28 Krock PenguinDad 17:28 OldCoder john_minetest, Lord of the Test is pretty good 17:30 cities sfan5 I did not realize you were the same person as ninjakitten 17:31 sfan5 then you know that now 17:32 cities I think I visited your server 17:37 doomtron guys, im running a default server and even being able to connect to it from LAN I belive my internet provider isnt allowing me to host any server trought his network 17:40 sfan5 doomtron: not allowing or preventing? 17:40 Calinou officially, not a lot of them allow hosting game servers 17:40 Calinou but you can always do it 17:40 doomtron preventing i think 17:40 Calinou try another port 17:40 Calinou but 30000 is rarely a restricted one 17:40 Calinou usually, the restricted ports are 25 and 80 17:40 sfan5 why 25? 17:40 sfan5 is that ftp? 17:41 doomtron its a radio internet service, i believe they are using some kind of routing which is blocking me 17:41 Calinou https://github.com/stuntrally/tracks/commit/b0e3c3f26729d60c53a25c337b72be92a7e092ba 17:41 Calinou sfan5, SMTP I think 17:41 sfan5 !g port 25 17:41 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.port25.com/ 17:41 sfan5 !title 17:41 MinetestBot sfan5: The SMTP Server Software Leader: PowerMTA 17:41 sfan5 yup 17:41 Calinou doomtron, in mobile Internet (3G/4G and such) you can't host a server because you don't have a routable public IP at all 17:42 doomtron so the answer would be remobo? 17:42 sfan5 nah 17:42 Calinou don't ever use that 17:42 sfan5 vpn on a vps would be infinitely better 17:43 doomtron hmm 17:44 doomtron but a vpn would not make my server private to that network? 17:45 sfan5 no 17:45 sfan5 you can forward port 30000 on your vps to your computer 17:45 blaise or rent a shell for $5 a year and put the server on the shell 17:47 blaise 12:47:02: ERROR[ServerThread]: ServerEnv: Trying to store id=10657 statically but block (5,0,5) already contains 528 objects. Forcing delete. │ 17:47 blaise :( 17:48 MinetestBot Halo: 09-23 18:08 UTC surprise! 17:52 Calinou Carbone: Remove outdated, annoying Awards mod. Note that you can get it here as a mod: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4870 17:52 Inspire049 hi 17:53 blaise Calinou: what ever happened to that awards mod 17:53 blaise did rubenwardy abandon it? 17:53 Calinou it looks like so anyway :/ 17:53 Calinou but it still works on latest versions 17:53 Calinou the pop-ups are very annoying 17:54 blaise rubenwardy: why did you abandon your mod? 17:54 Calinou and I don't like the concept of such achievements much anyway 17:54 Calinou probably a lack of time, he maintains dozens of mods already 17:54 rubenwardy No, I just can't be bothered to update it. 17:54 Calinou I'm trying to put Carbone on a diet by removing useless mods 17:54 rubenwardy And NBE 17:54 blaise I do, but I feel like the visual notification shouldn't be centered on the screen and have to be interacted with to continue with anything 17:54 Calinou to make it more maintainable 17:55 Calinou blaise, needs to be done with the HUD then 17:55 Calinou more performance-costy server-side 17:55 Calinou the HUD is not made to make menus 17:55 blaise Calinou: I'm rather fond of the HUD mod 17:55 blaise :) 17:55 Calinou most HUD mods rely on timed routines 17:55 rubenwardy If someone would like to compile a list of balanced awards, then I'll add them. 17:56 Calinou rubenwardy, Carbone had quite a set of custom awards 17:56 Calinou you can find them in the GIT history 17:56 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/commit/e00888f07072a7191d2270ec7091de22ec4fb211 17:56 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/commit/e00888f07072a7191d2270ec7091de22ec4fb211#mods/awards/init.lua 17:56 Calinou this, more accurately 17:59 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1467 17:59 Calinou does this allow us to make a Vanish mod? 17:59 Calinou Krock, ^ :) 17:59 Calinou by exploiting it 18:00 Krock Calinou, possible. try it :P 18:01 Krock YAY! <3 mt_pre_mapper.exe 18:02 Inspire049 hi 18:02 blaise hi 18:02 sfan5 hi 18:04 Krock aagh imgur! 18:04 Inspire049 is widdos online? 18:04 Krock nope.avi 18:04 Krock try isis.inchra.net #minetest 18:04 PenguinDad Krock: How 'bout mediacru.sh? 18:04 blaise lol 18:05 Krock PenguinDad, crush crush. I would need to transfer everything then. no. 18:05 PenguinDad Krock: why? 18:06 Krock PenguinDad, because I keep forgetting where my images are saved to 18:06 blaise what about google? 18:06 blaise chances are, they're already there 18:06 blaise XD 18:07 blaise damn shell exploits 18:07 blaise everyone was all like "oh no, it's only bash" 18:07 blaise turns out it's any shell 18:07 blaise zsh, sh, ksh 18:08 blaise all of them 18:08 blaise fish 18:08 blaise I like fish btw 18:08 blaise it's nice 18:09 PenguinDad fish sounds delicous :D 18:09 blaise http://fishshell.com/ 18:09 blaise Friendly Interactive SHell 18:12 cities cool name.. 18:12 blaise PenguinDad: honestly I love eating fish, but I'm afraid to.. 18:13 Krock Finally! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=155647#p155647 18:14 PenguinDad blaise: I wonder if fish added Ctrl-R since I looked at it the last time :/ 18:15 * blaise shrugs 18:15 blaise PenguinDad: what was ctrl-r supposed to do? 18:15 blaise  18:16 blaise reverse-i-search ? 18:16 PenguinDad blaise: yep 18:17 * blaise nibbles on a caramel apple cookie 18:19 blaise sfan5: did you ever see my question about if memcached could be used with minetest? 18:20 blaise ShadowNinja: would you happen to know if memcached might could be used with minetest ? 18:21 sfan5 blaise: whats memcached? 18:21 ShadowNinja blaise: No, I've never used that. 18:21 ShadowNinja Sounds like "memory cache daemon" 18:23 PenguinDad sfan5: this one I guess http://www.memcached.org/ 18:25 sfan5 and what should it cache? 18:28 sfan5 asie: that license they use o.O 18:28 sfan5 context: https://twitter.com/asiekierka/status/515568180404957184 18:28 sfan5 !tw https://twitter.com/asiekierka/status/515568180404957184 18:28 asie sfan5: Yes. 18:29 asie The mod at least 4 major Minecraft mods depend on, some of which are FOSS... is not FOSS 18:29 sfan5 is that even enforceable? 18:29 sfan5 !tw https://twitter.com/asiekierka/status/515568180404957184 18:29 MinetestBot https://cdn.mediacru.sh/m7h9tC7pkS54.png Not even bothering to make a comment on this one. (@asiekierka) 18:29 asie Probably. 18:29 asie CovertJaguar's is, at least 18:29 asie He knows his legal stuff well. 18:30 sfan5 "Also, since it's not fully open, it keeps asie far far away, which is seriously worth doing." 18:30 asie Yes, they hate me this much 18:30 * sfan5 wonders why asie is hated 18:30 asie I don't know 18:30 asie I think it's related to some of my blog posts 18:30 asie http://blog.asie.pl/ 18:31 * sfan5 reads 18:32 rubenwardy How does mese spawn naturally (what item code?) 18:32 Calinou default:mese I think… 18:32 Calinou or default:meseblock now 18:32 Calinou default:mese is likely an alias 18:32 sfan5 "*A Functionally Equivalent Statement is a code fragment which, regardless of whitespace and object names, achieves the same result. Basically you can't copy the code, rename the variables, add whitespace and say it's different. It's not." 18:32 sfan5 asie: obfuscate all the code? 18:32 rubenwardy default:stone_with_mese 18:33 Calinou that's mese ore 18:33 Calinou it also spawns as blocks naturally 18:33 Calinou sfan5, obfuscate ALL the code! 18:33 Calinou asie, this guy should work at Google, on the Android SDK :) 18:33 blaise sfan5: ShadowNinja: it's used to cache databases 18:34 sfan5 blaise: why not just use redis? 18:34 blaise sfan5: because memcached works over a network.. so you can distribute the database load to multiple machines 18:35 Calinou the FSF doesn't define open source, it defines free/libre software, asie 18:35 sfan5 asie: "Note 4: And now I'm a jerk for trying to raise awareness of a potential issue which might bite us all with the next Minecraft update. I hate this community sometimes" s/sometimes// 18:35 sfan5 blaise: redis does too 18:35 Calinou well, just quit Minecraft modding, it's hell on earth 18:35 * Jordach pets asie 18:35 blaise sfan5: where? 18:35 asie Calinou: I already did 18:35 * sfan5 meows at Jordach's lamp 18:35 asie I also use open source for simplicity 18:35 sfan5 blaise: where?? 18:36 asie visible source is whatever is not free software but open source 18:36 blaise oh 18:36 Calinou that's often called shared source 18:36 Calinou the OSI says open source must be redistributable, etc 18:36 * blaise explodes 18:36 Jordach asie, the MC community since 2011 proved their nothing but a bunch of useless twats and hippocrites 18:36 Calinou if you can just view it, it's “shared source” 18:36 Jordach they're*] 18:37 asie Calinou: I don't even bother making all the distinctions 18:37 asie If it fulfills the four freedoms, it's open source, if you can read the source, it's visible source 18:37 asie and if it restricts you into their own viral box, it's "free software" 18:37 asie free as in America 18:37 blaise ah poop 18:37 blaise so how do I do this 18:38 blaise instead of localhost I use the machine I want the server to access the redis database on? 18:38 * PenguinDad gets blaise's pieces together 18:38 blaise but that doesn't distribute the load of the database over multiple servers 18:38 sfan5 asie: "Nobody can legally take it up without the explicit permission of the developer, which sometimes is not given at all (see RedPower 2, [...]" RedPower2 is abandoned? 18:38 asie sfan5: Since 1.4.7, yes. 18:39 asie Eloraam quit after someone from 4chan called her out for being transgender 18:39 asie Then came back in 1.7.10 18:39 asie then decided to quit again and work on Minia, her own propiertary clone 18:39 * Calinou sad laugh 18:39 sfan5 blaise: redis_address = , you can't use multiple servers IIRC 18:39 sfan5 asie: and is there any alternative? 18:39 asie Yes! 18:39 asie RedLogic is the MIT one 18:39 blaise sfan5: but with memcached you can.. 18:39 asie Project: Red is a fork of RedLogic that used to be LGPL, then rewrote everything and went closed-source 18:39 blaise hence the distributed database backend 18:40 asie there's also BluePower 18:40 asie an LGPL clone that tries to be a lot more faithful to RP2 18:40 asie but early in dev 18:41 sfan5 asie: so basically no 18:41 sfan5 :( 18:42 sfan5 I really enjoyed rp2 18:42 asie sfan5: basically yes 18:42 asie just use RedLogic 18:42 sfan5 1.7.10? 18:42 asie 1.5.2+ 18:42 asie up to 1.7.10 18:42 asie I did the 1.7 port 18:42 sfan5 awesome 18:42 asie then immibis fixed it up 18:43 erlehmann Calinou FYI, i reported bug with minetest and maintainers seem to be quick in debian 18:44 erlehmann asie there is an open source definition http://opensource.org/osd-annotated 18:44 asie erlehmann: i don't really care anymore 18:44 asie i just call things what i feel they should be called 18:45 blaise http://code.google.com/p/memcached/ 18:45 erlehmann asie yeah, but the OSI *defined* (and popularized) the term. so if you call it something else, well, everyone will misunderstand you. 18:45 asie erlehmann: there are tons of misunderstandings 18:46 blaise sfan5: so I suppose to use that we would need redis and memcached 18:46 asie and i'm not bothering to use 'free software' as that term brings even more misunderstandings 18:46 asie so there 18:46 Calinou free software, done properly, doesn't cause confusion 18:46 sfan5 blaise: why both? 18:46 Calinou cf. libre software 18:46 Calinou free/libre if you want 18:46 sfan5 asie: http://youtu.be/1IowoeWOgfc?t=14s 18:46 blaise and have memcached cache the redis database over multiple machines 18:46 asie Calinou: nope 18:46 asie most people think free software is freeware 18:46 Calinou there are other ethical implications to the term 18:46 asie and libre software would just make me look like a nerd 18:46 erlehmann asie why do the people hate you? 18:46 erlehmann the minecraft people? 18:46 asie erlehmann: who knows? 18:46 Calinou http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html (-: 18:47 asie Calinou: richard-stallman-misses-the-point ;-) 18:47 asie erlehmann: maybe because i actually give a shit about licensing, what mods are used, porting things 18:47 erlehmann asie i see! 18:47 asie and i BRING THE TOPICS UP 18:47 asie instead of keeping it to myself 18:47 * sfan5 meows at asie 18:47 asie i go on IRC and say "hey, that's an issue" 18:47 asie and then everyone puts me on /ignore 18:47 blaise congratz 18:48 Calinou asie, the FSF isn't only about Richard Stallman though. 18:48 Calinou it would be sad to “simplify” it to only one man 18:48 erlehmann saying „free software“ is now „open source“ is like saying „rock n roll“ is now „new wave“ 18:48 Calinou there's a guy behind the OSI too, Eric Raymond 18:53 blaise sfan5: do I set backend = redis before or after migration? 18:53 rubenwardy Awards update! Now uses HUD. https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards 18:53 blaise sfan5: my guess is after, so it knows where to find the current backend.. yes? 18:53 sfan5 blaise: ummm... minetestserver --migrate automatically updates the setting 18:54 rubenwardy (and removes easy awards) 18:54 rubenwardy like first join 18:54 Calinou rubenwardy, :O 18:54 Calinou nice 18:54 Calinou yes, remove redundant awards 18:54 Calinou but I probably won't re-add it to Carbone 18:54 rubenwardy See what happens when you prod when to update 18:54 rubenwardy XD 18:55 rubenwardy That's fine, I am doing it because it has come to my attention 18:55 blaise sfan5: is the directory map.db where the leveldb stuffs is stored? 18:56 sfan5 blaise: yup 18:56 rainbowdah hi 18:57 rainbowdah stan5? 18:58 sfan5 what? 18:58 blaise that's an f, not a t 18:58 rainbowdah oh sorry i thought my connetion went out 18:58 rainbowdah just testing 18:59 * blaise gives sfan5 a package of kipper snacks 18:59 * sfan5 noms them 19:00 sfan5 rainbowdah: just do MinetestBot! then 19:00 sfan5 MinetestBot! 19:00 MinetestBot sfan5! 19:00 rainbowdah what is minebot? 19:01 rainbowdah sorry minetestbot 19:02 sfan5 MinetestBot is a bot 19:05 rainbowdah the server seems alot less inactive since i last been on 19:08 blaise lol 19:08 blaise when I went to migrate, pipeworks threw an error.. 19:08 blaise so I had to disable pipeworks to migrate the database 19:09 blaise rainbowdah: what server? 19:09 Krock is there anything equivalent to string foo = (bar? "Yes" : "No"); in Lua? 19:09 rainbowdah the freenode server 19:09 sfan5 Krock: no 19:09 Krock sfan5, okay. 19:09 blaise rainbowdah: the freenode irc server? 19:09 rainbowdah yes 19:10 blaise eh, I can't recall when it's ever been even close to inactive 19:10 blaise maybe the first few years freenode existed.. 19:10 PenguinDad Krock: you could use "bar and 'Yes' or 'No'" 19:10 Krock mah hero. 19:10 erlehmann thanks asie i am reading your blog now! 19:10 rainbowdah anyways ive been having trouble finding the server on minetest called minetestville 19:11 blaise !server ville 19:11 MinetestBot blaise: Minetestville | 162.156.68.250 | Clients: 6/40, 5/6 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 182ms 19:11 blaise that one? 19:11 Calinou * sfan5 wonders why asie is hated 19:11 Calinou the same reason I'm hated 19:11 Calinou not following popular, general opinion 19:11 rainbowdah yeah 19:11 blaise :) 19:11 blaise glad to be of service 19:11 * blaise steps outside for a few 19:12 Calinou smoking kills 19:13 PenguinDad Calinou: Life is 100% deadly 19:14 doomtron r u a bot then? 19:14 rainbowdah its been along time since i was on the minetest server 19:15 rainbowdah anyt wait too say hi to max and batman 19:17 rainbowdah !server ville 19:17 MinetestBot rainbowdah: Minetestville | 162.156.68.250 | Clients: 6/40, 5/6 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 182ms 19:19 blaise wow, my remote redis server ran out of ram 19:19 blaise that's fscked 19:19 * PenguinDad fscks blaise 19:19 rainbowdah bad peguindad 19:20 * Jordach fcsks MinetestBot 19:20 Jordach ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 19:20 PenguinDad I can't check blaise's filesystem :( 19:20 blaise :o 19:20 sfan5 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 19:20 blaise PenguinDad: it's btrfs 19:20 sfan5 ^ 19:20 sfan5 btrfs yay 19:21 Hobodium ɿ(｡･ɜ･)ɾⓌⓗⓐⓣ？ 19:22 erlehmann asie nice http://blog.asie.pl/2014/05/how-i-quit-minecraft-and-went-minetest/ 19:22 erlehmann i made a rudimentary mod for a glider 19:22 erlehmann from PilzAdam's boat mod 19:22 erlehmann but i can only model very basically in wings3d 19:22 erlehmann and do not have an idea of nice flight physics 19:23 Calinou there are hovers in Carbone 19:23 asie well, i'm writing a magnum opus post now 19:23 asie https://docs.google.com/document/d/1H6tCCSko8X_H7_9X1vQX6yZ9_4VU9nTEEgXnrtTekjw/edit 19:24 Calinou Google docs :( 19:25 Jordach "As a person who has a Ph. D in drama generation" 19:25 sfan5 lol 19:25 * Jordach actually laughs a little 19:27 cities I want to play this Carbone thing 19:27 cities everywhere I read says its so good 19:28 PenguinDad cities: just play it then 19:28 cities Id like to do it on multiplayer but not sure which servers are using it 19:30 Calinou cities, http://servers.minetest.net 19:30 Calinou tells the gameids of servers 19:30 Calinou not many servers run it 19:30 Calinou everywhere I read says its so good 19:30 Calinou hey, cool :D 19:30 cities you mean the flags? 19:30 cities sorry 19:31 cities oh I see one 19:31 cities H20 19:32 Calinou unpopulated 19:32 cities I just did control+f and typed in carbone 19:33 alket where could i get a free minetest server xD 19:33 rainbowdah noboy remebes me on the server 19:33 cities Calinou maybe you could help me out. What am I looking at wrong 19:34 sfan5 alket: nowhere? 19:34 Calinou no, there are really that few servers using it 19:34 rubenwardy Calinou, I back ported the mods from your (deleted) fork in Carbone. Do you mind if I change the license of Awards to GPL? 19:34 cities oh 19:34 Calinou yes, do that 19:34 alket :) 19:34 cities man 19:34 cities if its so awesome why is that 19:34 alket what about a cheap and good one ? 19:35 sfan5 alket: a 512mb digitalocean vps is probably enough 19:36 Calinou 512 MB may be limited in player count 19:36 Calinou cities, it's not default 19:37 alket we are 4 players ? 19:37 Calinou ah 19:37 Calinou use Server performance settings anyway 19:37 rubenwardy s/mods/awards 19:37 alket it would be better if I could host , but it seems like it doesnt work 19:37 alket from home 19:37 sfan5 alket: what did you try so far? 19:38 cities omg I never realized you could hover over the version column 19:38 cities and see a list of mods 19:38 alket sudo nohup minetest --serveres , but i dont understand it 19:38 sfan5 alket: try running minetest --server first 19:38 doomtron does minetest accept ipv6 server addresses? 19:39 sfan5 doomtron: yes 19:39 alket sfan5, i did 19:39 sfan5 !server ping:least 19:39 MinetestBot sfan5: Clip Public Server | 188.40.69.134 | Clients: 15/24, 8/21 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest | Ping: 18ms 19:39 sfan5 alket: what was the result? 19:39 alket sfan5, the game opened , and some irrlicht in cli 19:40 alket sfan5, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8435242/ 19:40 sfan5 alket: did you start "minetest --server" 19:40 alket no 19:40 alket without -- 19:41 alket sfan5, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8435246/ 19:42 zat No matter what I try... I just cant figure out what octaves and persist do in a perlin noise. 19:42 Calinou cities, when you hover underlined stuff, you see info 19:43 blaise so, I'm over here trying to migrate my server to a redis db on a remote machine 19:44 blaise and eh, it doesn't seem to notice if the redist server is up or down 19:44 blaise so.. I'm not sure if this is actually working 19:44 blaise and when I tail -f the redis.log in debug mode, I don't see any activity at all 19:45 blaise so, I'm not sure if it's even communicating with the remote machine 19:45 blaise I don't believe it is.. 19:46 alket sfan5, what about now 19:46 alket i mean , what now 19:46 sfan5 alket: it's running 19:47 alket but they can't connect 19:47 sfan5 where are you hosting it? 19:47 alket sfan5, home 19:48 sfan5 alket: forward port 30000 udp on your router to the computer the server runs on 19:49 Krock wat. minetest fails to compile? eww. devs. 19:50 alket sfan5, from 3000 to ? 19:50 sfan5 alket: just 30000 19:51 blaise Krock: mine compiled just fine 19:51 alket sfan5, but it has Start Port End Port 19:51 Krock mine didn't. that's the problem. using the same setup as last week when it compiled fine 19:51 zlsa alket, 30000 to 30000? 19:51 zlsa or 30001? 19:52 sfan5 alket: from 30000 to 30000 19:52 blaise that's got to look like a complete mess in iptables 19:52 sfan5 blaise: routers always do a mess with iptablers 19:52 sfan5 -r 19:52 blaise what ever script you're using must suck big hairy whale poop 19:53 sfan5 blaise: it's probably the router config gui 19:54 blaise you have to specify a range? you can't specify a single port?! 19:54 blaise and are you sure it's not asking for something like /24 ? 19:55 blaise the /24 would be to allow forwarding of all ports 19:55 blaise not sure how to specify that 19:55 sfan5 thats called exposed host 19:55 blaise lol 19:56 blaise sfan5: whelp, I think the server which hosts my minetest server does not have the ram to migrate from leveldb to a remote redis server 19:57 blaise sfan5: I get to about half way, then it says 14:55:25: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: Failed to store block in Database 19:57 blaise but no error on the redis server 19:57 rubenwardy Added API support for players receiving prizes, such as blocks and items, when unlocking awards (not currently used by any awards) 19:57 blaise just [18588] 26 Sep 19:55:25.370 - Client closed connection 19:58 blaise rubenwardy: Yay! 19:59 blaise I wonder if I can transfer the leveldb folder to the redis server machine and migrate it from there 19:59 blaise I'm feeling like it might be the only way 20:00 rubenwardy The problem with prizes is their value varies depending on the economy of a server. (Not very valuable on creative, valuable on branch new survival where no big blocks are on circulation) 20:03 rubenwardy Bye all! 20:08 blaise as far as I can tell, it's not storing aything on the remote redis server 20:08 blaise I just tried to generate a new map with redis backend 20:08 blaise I'm in the game 20:09 blaise but redis log doesn't show anything but the client being connected 20:09 blaise definitly no changes when I dig/place blocks 20:10 Krock !up 108.60.192.69 20:10 MinetestBot 108.60.192.69:30000 seems to be down 20:10 PenguinDad !up do.wn 20:10 MinetestBot do.wn:30000 seems to be down 20:10 PenguinDad :( 20:12 Krock MinetestBot.attach_on_th_end_of_command_answer("!up", ":(") 20:12 * Krock gives sfan5 ^ 20:20 Matrixiumn hi Calinou :) 20:20 blaise guess it's back to leveldb 20:21 blaise till I can figure this out 20:21 blaise !up midnightsystems.net 20:21 MinetestBot midnightsystems.net:30000 is up (451ms) 20:27 MinetestBot blackha.wk:30000 seems to be down 20:28 Krock ehm. how can I restore a deleted file in GIT? The file should be in a "historical" state 20:33 blaise Krock: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/953481/restore-a-deleted-file-in-a-git-repo 20:34 Krock lol. wrote "ehm. wrong channel" in te wrong channel 20:34 Krock thx for googl'ing 20:34 blaise :) 20:36 blaise git log --diff-filter=D --summary 20:44 Amaz Any ideas why using minetest.register_on_leaveplayer to change settings doesn't work? I can change settings fine enough with: minetest.register_on_joinplayer 20:44 Amaz (With singleplayer.) 20:45 Krock ever tried to use .save() 20:46 Amaz Nope. 20:48 Amaz minetest.register_on_shutdown works though! 20:51 * Krock hits 1800 posts 20:51 Amaz Well done Krock! 20:51 Krock :) 20:52 * Amaz gives Krock a tin of cookies 20:52 Amaz Not quite good enough for a cake... Yet ;) 20:53 Krock tin as ore, tin as "cup" or tin as preserve? 20:53 Amaz :P 2nd one! 20:53 Krock oke. 20:53 zat sheet ore generation sux o I am using it bad...... 20:54 Krock Y? 20:54 Krock 3 2 1 20:55 asie yes i am staying here sfan5 20:55 zat I get a flat 2d sheet and not a 3d noise as I ekpected 20:56 Jordach asie, <3 20:56 Jordach zat, no sheet 20:57 blaise Він мав на увазі очікується? 20:57 zat ? 20:57 Calinou has anyone worked on a prettier presentation of lua_api.txt? that is, HTML or Markdown? 20:58 blaise john_minetest: XD 20:59 blaise I was speaking ukranian.. 20:59 zat so there is no 3d noise for ore generation? 21:00 blaise zat: Так є три х мірне покоління руди. 21:07 Calinou I read lua_api.txt, the API is actually pretty large 21:07 Calinou zat, isn't scatter 3d noise? 21:07 Calinou you can change noise params 21:07 zat Calinou: really??? 21:07 zat OMFG 21:10 Calinou lua_api.txt says so 21:10 Calinou the scatter generation is quite configurable 21:17 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/8435778/ 21:18 alket is there a free server hosting for 4 players ? :) 21:18 Calinou no 21:19 Calinou you can go on an unpopulated server and play, but you don't have a say on the server configuration 21:19 blaise alket: you're welcome on my server 21:19 blaise !server midnight 21:19 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/10, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 124ms 21:58 ItsLuke Do you guys accept doge as a donation? 22:03 * PenguinDad slowly falls asleep 22:04 VanessaE ItsLuke: perhaps best to ask the individual you wish to tip, directly 22:04 ItsLuke I want to tip Minetest 22:04 VanessaE the Minetest donations page doesn't, per se, but there's a Paypal option, and I believe you can route your donations through coinbase now 22:05 VanessaE (coinbase et al. -> paypal -> minetest, if I understand paypal's new cryptocurrency deal correctly) 22:05 Bo7a Shot in the dark, but maybe one of the devs in the dev channel has a wallet already :) 22:06 ItsLuke Doge isnt coinbase 22:06 VanessaE I know, but you can trade it for BTC and use that. 22:06 Bo7a gocoin is the paypal dealy. But Only in north america right now 22:06 VanessaE Bo7a: they're also doing coinbase and one other. 22:06 Bo7a sweet 22:06 ItsLuke I'm going to tip Hundreds of thousands of doge 22:07 ItsLuke soo,,, 22:07 Artemis3 tip VanessaE with panda coins :3 22:07 VanessaE Artemis3: :) 22:07 VanessaE PND that is :) 22:09 VanessaE but seriously, 22:10 VanessaE that's your best route for now is to exchange them for BTC and use one of those two BTC/Paypal gateways 22:10 ItsLuke Id rather not 22:11 ItsLuke Have you seen the Cryptsy rates? 22:11 VanessaE Not for that service in particular, but I know cryptsy sucks :-/ 22:11 VanessaE I stopped using them; if I need to trade I'll do it on mintpal 22:12 ItsLuke Their rates are the same 22:12 ItsLuke .help 22:12 ItsLuke !help 22:12 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 22:15 kaeza evenings 22:15 VanessaE hey kaeza 22:17 PenguinDad Good night kaeza 22:43 blaise seems like no one plays on my server anymore 22:44 shadowzone What is your server? 22:44 blaise !server midnight 22:44 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/10, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 594ms 22:44 shadowzone Oh. 22:44 blaise is it really that bad? 22:46 shadowzone https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules <--- is this the same bot we have here? 22:47 blaise yes 23:03 AldoBR hi all 23:03 AldoBR i want the inventory equivalent of ItemStack() object creato 23:03 AldoBR *creator 23:08 kaeza what do you mean? 23:09 AldoBR when you want to create a new stack from nowhere 23:09 AldoBR you do 23:09 AldoBR stack = ItemStack("name:qnt") 23:09 kaeza yes 23:09 AldoBR how can i create a inventory out of nowhere ? 23:09 AldoBR and later attach it to a node 23:10 kaeza you just local meta = minetest.get_meta(nodepos) local inv = meta:get_inventory() 23:10 kaeza then inv:set_size("listname", 123) 23:11 AldoBR thats the problem the inventory is attached to a node in world 23:11 AldoBR i want one inv that is not attached to anything at all 23:11 kaeza https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1551 23:11 kaeza ^ that then 23:12 AldoBR it has a name 23:12 AldoBR well, i will do another less elegant solution 23:12 AldoBR i will pass around a table of itemstacks and write two functions : one that translates from inventory to that table and other that translates from that table to inventory 23:13 AldoBR thanks 23:13 kaeza you still need an InvRef for it to be useful 23:13 kaeza (e.g. to show the inv in a formspec) 23:14 kaeza and for that, you need to name your inv something unique 23:14 AldoBR storeinventory = function(node, invtable) 23:14 AldoBR it does not need to appear in a inv ref 23:14 AldoBR i am creating a util library for moving nodes 23:14 AldoBR nodes that can be moved around 23:14 AldoBR a kind of generalization of the approach taken on TBM 23:14 AldoBR to move, they must carry their inventory around 23:15 kaeza if you don't need to actually show the inventory, then yes, you don't NEED and InvRef 23:15 kaeza you can do that with regular tables 23:15 AldoBR i can save the target node inventory to a variable 23:15 AldoBR err 23:16 AldoBR i can save the source inventory to a variable 23:16 AldoBR move the node 23:16 AldoBR and write the inventory back to the target node 23:16 AldoBR and then move the node 23:17 AldoBR err another question, how to detect if a itemstack is a tool/something that wears and cannot be stacked ? 23:18 kaeza if itemstack:get_wear() ~= nil then ... 23:18 AldoBR hm 23:18 AldoBR so only tools have get_wear() defined ? 23:19 kaeza no, it's a call 23:19 AldoBR ah () 23:19 kaeza if it returns nil, it's not a "tool" 23:19 AldoBR ok 23:19 AldoBR thanks 23:19 kaeza sure 23:19 * blaise explodes 23:21 AldoBR http://pastebin.com/tP6HbFxD 23:22 kaeza AldoBR, you can also use stack:to_table() 23:22 AldoBR api does not explain to_table() output format 23:23 kaeza AFAIK, ItemStack(stack:to_table()) is supposed to return a stack equal to the original stack 23:23 kaeza { name="foo:bar", count=1, metadata="asdf", wear=1234 } 23:24 AldoBR hm 23:24 kaeza ("wear" not set for not "tools", "metadata" not set if the stack has no metadata) 23:26 AldoBR thanks 23:26 RealBadAngel AldoBR, if you dont know the format use print(dump(x)) 23:26 RealBadAngel where x is your table in question 23:27 RealBadAngel you will easily see how its organized then 23:27 blaise wow 23:27 blaise even my regulars are gone 23:27 blaise seems they haven't been on since right before I fixed the lag issues 23:34 AldoBR i have a lua question 23:34 AldoBR if I table.insert(table, "string") 23:34 AldoBR can "string" be duplicates ? 23:34 AldoBR i mean 23:34 AldoBR table.insert(table, "test") 23:34 AldoBR table.insert(table, "test") again 23:34 AldoBR will the table have two "test" entries ? 23:38 VanessaE it will. 23:38 VanessaE at two different, adjacent indexes 23:38 VanessaE if you did one right after the other that is 23:38 AldoBR i need a way to avoid duplication 23:39 VanessaE e.g. [1] = "test", [2] = "test", [3] = nil 23:39 AldoBR i am writing a inventory utility lib 23:39 AldoBR and i have a function named getstacksnames 23:39 AldoBR it returns the name of everything that is in a inventory 23:39 jin_xi or you can use the string as index and store a quantity for example 23:40 jin_xi then you can check if its in the table already easily 23:40 AldoBR if i understand correctly, i am doing it wrongly, becouse that function would return duplicate entries 23:41 kaeza AldoBR, https://gist.github.com/kaeza/a9aacd6163c922da326f 23:45 RealBadAngel before insterting check for key 23:45 RealBadAngel if its null then insert new entry 23:47 RealBadAngel if table["key"] == NULL then 23:47 VanessaE nil* 23:47 RealBadAngel erm i mean NIL ;) 23:47 AldoBR thanks 23:48 RealBadAngel ninja'd as usual ;)