Time Nick Message 00:06 blaise !server midnight 00:06 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/10, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 262ms 00:07 Megaf_ !server Megaf 00:07 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 6/9, 3/6 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 1461ms 00:07 Megaf_ dat ping 00:07 blaise !server ChiliP 00:07 MinetestBot blaise: No results 00:07 blaise Megaf_: sfan5 says that number is completely not accurate 00:09 blaise I'm still wondering what the second set of numbers is beind current/max clients 00:09 Megaf_ first set is current max 00:09 blaise I know 00:09 Megaf_ the other is avarage/top 00:09 blaise lol 00:09 blaise average/top users? 00:09 Megaf_ yep 00:09 blaise for the day? or since the server was started ? 00:10 Megaf_ since the server restarted 00:10 blaise ah.. 00:24 haiku hi all 00:24 haiku Megaf_: 00:24 Megaf_ haiku: server is back 00:24 guest3346 Hello 00:24 haiku Megaf_: yeah I see! very good! 00:24 Megaf_ a guest!! kill it with fire! 00:24 Megaf_ before it lay eggs! 00:25 guest3346 oh nooooo! I dont want to die 00:25 haiku Megaf_: but is too many users, kick someone so I can go in XD 00:26 Megaf_ already? but I just started it up 00:26 Megaf_ haiku: try again 00:28 haiku thank you Megaf_ I'm entering 00:28 Megaf_ cool 00:30 Megaf_ !server Megaf 00:30 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 7/21, 4/7 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 299ms 00:36 guest3346 I had some questions to ask, but my courage seems to have burned up 00:36 VanessaE go ahead and ask 00:37 guest3346 I installed the latest linux dev build of minetest early this morning ( love third person view by the way ) 00:37 guest3346 and Im wondering to put the mods I downloaded 00:38 VanessaE put them in ~/.minetestmods 00:38 VanessaE er 00:38 VanessaE put them in ~/.minetest/mods 00:38 guest3346 I dont see a mod folder in my home directory 00:38 VanessaE damn keyboard. 00:38 VanessaE mkdir -p ~/.minetest/mods 00:38 VanessaE put them there, enable them in the "Configure" menu for the world you want to use them with 00:38 VanessaE make sure the directory names for the mods are correct 00:38 guest3346 ok, I just wasnt sure that is that location would work 00:39 VanessaE e.g. if you see stuff like Somebody-modname-master it probably needs to be just 'modname', etc. 00:39 guest3346 ok, thank you 00:40 VanessaE you're welcome :) 00:40 guest3346 :) 00:49 lemonfake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an6UE1V7i-w 00:49 lemonfake very fancy 00:54 VanessaE lemonfake: NICE! 00:55 lemonfake it was way easier than i had predicted 00:55 lemonfake just a simple entity 00:55 lemonfake pipeworks helped me figure that out :p 00:56 lemonfake im off for the night, then 00:56 lemonfake see y'all soon 01:02 jordan4ibanez_ test 01:16 jordan4ibanez did freenode go down?? 01:17 Miner_48er net split 01:37 Megaf_ hm 01:58 aldobr hi 01:59 VanessaE hi 02:07 diemartin hi 02:09 jentron If the world is on fire... is there a way to put it out? 02:10 aldobr crumble the mountains to the sea 02:11 jentron maybe by loading the fake_fire mod? 02:11 aldobr you might try a node replacer mod 02:12 aldobr abm the fire node and replace it to air in the abm body 02:18 VanessaE jentron: the easiest way is to edit your minetest.conf, disable_fire = true 02:18 VanessaE then let the fire go out on its own 02:19 VanessaE (that setting will keep the fire from spreading or burning anything else down) 02:19 VanessaE ignore what aldobr said :) 02:19 aldobr ¬¬ 02:20 aldobr very pleasant 02:20 VanessaE I smiled :) 02:20 jentron Thanks VanessaE ... easier than searching for an abm mod 02:20 VanessaE you were giving him instructions that, while accurate, were overcomplicated :) 02:21 aldobr nice excuse ! 02:21 aldobr :D 02:22 aldobr iirc theres a mod called node replacer 02:22 VanessaE that is intended to replace nodes in e.g. a floor or wall while building 02:22 VanessaE when he turns off the fire, it'll go out on its own 02:23 diemartin I think he means `clean' mod <_< 02:23 diemartin still disable_fire is easier 02:24 diemartin (or rm yourworld/map.{sqlite,leveldb} >_>) 02:25 diemartin also, freenode, pls stahp 02:26 jentron What was the joke about the guy in a balloon who asks, as he floats by a guy on the ground, "Where am I" 02:26 jentron And the guy says, "You're in a balloon" 02:27 jentron and the balloonist says, "you must be a microsoft engineer because your answer was technically correct, but completely useless". 02:27 jentron :P 02:29 * aldobr writes a note into his notebook : never try to help again 02:33 jentron aldobr, I'm not trying to dog you out. I appreciate the help, really! 02:35 jentron I have a private server running the stampy playland world and my boy managed to light it on fire with TnT. :) 05:02 iio7 I am facing a problem with an invisible block with snow on top http://imagebin.org/319520, I can't figure out which mod (as I have used mods on the server) is causing this annoying problem. Anyone who can recognize what might be causing this? 05:02 iio7 The snow is just hanging in the air. 05:03 iio7 I have tried disabling one mod at a time to see if I could get "block unknown", but I must be missing something which doesn't seem to effect block, yet it does. 05:04 iio7 Is it possible to debug this somehow? 05:07 Miner_48er do you have worldedit? 05:07 iio7 no 05:08 Miner_48er is it your server? 05:08 iio7 yes 05:08 Miner_48er dig the block and look at the end of the debug.txt 05:10 Joe___ hello 05:11 Joe___ I have a quick question. I have searched everywhere, and I can not find the answer to this question. How do you produce the black dye in a regular install? 05:12 Joe___ hi 05:13 Joe___ Is anyone actually here? 05:16 iio7 Joe___, I don't know much about crafting, but I recommend installing the Unified Inventory mod, it's kindda like CraftingGuide on Minecraft. 05:25 iio7 Miner_48er, digging the snow returns "default:snow". 05:25 Miner_48er ok that's the node 05:26 iio7 The "invisible" block isn't a block, it's just empty. There is nothing to dig underneath the snow. 05:26 iio7 It's like the snow "hangs" in mid ear. 05:27 iio7 ear -> air 05:27 Miner_48er how old is this version of snow? 05:27 iio7 What do you mean? 05:28 Miner_48er which version do you have? 05:28 iio7 I don't have mod named "snow", I am running 0.4.10, compiled from latest source. 05:33 Miner_48er ok that seems correct then to stack them 05:35 Miner_48er is that being produced by a generation issue? 05:35 iio7 I don't know. 05:43 iio7 Is there a way to get rid of "unknown blocks" when a mod has been removed? A way clean the world up? 05:50 iio7 "clearobjects" didn't work. Object clearing done, but still unknown blocks present. Another way? 06:01 iio7 Ethereal seems to be the mod causing the snow problem. 06:01 h9ine hey i installed minetest on arch using pacman and it opens but no texture packs show up. i ended up installing one, and seen the base texture pack was in fact there in /usr/share/minetest/textures -- now i am compiling from source hoping that will work. is this a common problem? is there another solution 06:02 Miner_48er iio7 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2777 06:05 Miner_48er h9ine idk you could try posting on the forum if no one replies here forum.minetet.net 06:07 iio7 What are the difference between "biomeblend", "jungles" and "mudflow", can they all be enabled at the same time? 06:09 h9ine thanks miner_48er 06:09 h9ine im waiting for it to finish building and i think it will work :) 06:11 Miner_48er iio7 idk try search for minetest ... should have a description of them 06:12 iio7 I did, only sparsome 06:15 Miner_48er iio7 ask a dev when if one's online? 06:25 h9ine !ping 06:42 hisforever Whats the command to send privet messages? 06:43 hisforever to an admin 06:45 h9ine i just compiled from source, menu looks different but still no texture packs. 06:49 sfan5 hisforever: /msg should work 06:49 sfan5 h9ine: did you install minetest_game? 06:50 h9ine sfan5: yes and the texture files are present, just not in the menu at all 06:50 Krock meow? 06:50 sfan5 h9ine: did you put it into the games/ folder? 06:50 h9ine ! 06:53 hisforever how do I send privet messages? 06:54 h9ine /msg hisforever hey man 06:54 hisforever thanks 06:55 h9ine how do i exit already opened private messages? thats what i want to know 06:55 hisforever What piece of shingle are for the corners? 06:56 Krock h9ine, there's no command for closing, just right click on the tab and press on "Close" 06:56 hisforever the corners of my house look crappy 06:56 h9ine no its /wc i just figured it out 06:56 h9ine (im using irssi) 06:57 Krock wc aka toilet 06:59 hisforever this channel is great ty for all your help over the past few days 06:59 h9ine i have moved minetest_game into the games/ dir and still shows with no texture packs. i notice in the debg log: 22:23:39: ERROR[main]: /home/user/.minetest/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png 07:00 Krock h9ine, seems like https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png is missing 07:02 sfan5 h9ine: how did you install minetest? 07:02 h9ine pacman -Sy minetest minetest-common 07:03 h9ine then since that didnt work, i downloaded source and compiled it in my home directory ~/builds 07:05 h9ine okay it works. im using the pacman Arch repo version of minetest, and i had to drop the texture pack in ~/.minetest/textures/ 07:05 sfan5 why didn't that work? 07:08 h9ine btw now that i wget that no_screenshot.png into the spot: the base texture still dont work 07:09 sfan5 why did the pacman installation not work? 07:09 h9ine it does, i just had to drop a texture pack in my home directory 07:09 sfan5 so where's the problem now? 07:11 h9ine its with the no_screenshot.png still. now its saying its not a real png 07:11 h9ine im re dl the png 07:12 sfan5 h9ine: wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/minetest/minetest/master/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png 07:12 sfan5 the other one was the html of the github page 07:17 sfan5 MinetestBot! 07:17 MinetestBot sfan5! 07:17 sfan5 MinetestBot! 07:17 MinetestBot sfan5! 07:19 Krock sfan5! 07:19 nman3600 MinetestBot! 07:19 MinetestBot nman3600! 07:19 nman3600 <3 MinetestBot 07:19 MinetestBot <3 nman3600 07:20 nman3600 Hi MinetestBot 07:20 MinetestBot Hello nman3600. 07:20 nman3600 :D 07:42 hisforever sorry for being mad but how do I make stone brick? 07:43 Krock craft one with 4x brick 07:43 Krock *stone 07:44 hisforever understand but do I use the cobble stone? 07:45 Krock burn cobble to stone 07:54 Krock The server list needs a new look, showing up an icon on left side and title, owner, playrs on right 09:39 Krock omg no internet for 6 minutes, I almost died. 09:39 Krock /mbadjoke 09:39 * sfan5 curls up to Krock's lap 09:40 * Krock still doesn't know what sfan5 means by that sentence 09:40 PenguinDad /mbadjoke :< 09:40 sfan5 did you try putting it into google translate? 09:41 Krock ah. meow-act 09:41 Krock I only translated the single words and it didn't make any sentence 09:42 Krock / sense 09:42 Krock " • Our newest member August" 09:42 PenguinDad *September :P 09:43 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 09:45 * ElectronLibre is wondering himself if it's possible to add a translation command to MinetestBot. 09:45 PenguinDad !tell EvergreenTree <3 https://soundcloud.com/excision/excision-shambhala-2014-mix 09:45 MinetestBot PenguinDad: yeah, sure, whatever 09:48 PenguinDad MinetestBot: why so negative? :D 09:48 ElectronLibre Can she really answer you? 09:54 ElectronLibre It could be cool. 10:06 twoelk join #minetest-de 10:06 twoelk fail :-) 10:07 * ElectronLibre give back the / key to twoelk. 10:07 PenguinDad twoelk: Congratulations! You failed! 10:08 PenguinDad s/s!/s,/ 10:08 twoelk hm a public fail is a lot noisier 10:15 * PenguinDad hands twoelk some salsa cookies 10:18 twoelk hm salsa? I think I'll have some Ruebenmuss now or Wrouken, mh, I'm of to eat 10:20 jp_ \o twoelk 10:20 twoelk njam mampf, hi 10:55 Krock Hay jmf 10:58 ElectronLibre Hello john_minetest. 10:58 PenguinDad Krock: John mods freeminer? :D 10:59 Krock PenguinDad, that'd be jmfm 10:59 Krock john misses (his) (pony) farm 11:00 PenguinDad john meows frequently :D 11:00 Krock <3 11:00 Krock yes yes YES 11:02 twoelk mhm breeding horses/ponies in minetest, that would be something 11:03 * twoelk has built traditional stables in real life 11:04 PenguinDad *pets john_minetest* 11:15 PenguinDad Adobe Encore was written by lolcats \o/ http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/14/q3/e129/Pic-8.png 11:19 PenguinDad Tables can do so much more than CSS!!1! 11:19 LemonLake Does anyone know the gravity constant for entities? 11:19 LemonLake Specifically item entities 11:24 Krock2 . 11:25 * PenguinDad greets Sir Krockery 11:27 * ElectronLibre can see two Krocks, he is probably tired... 11:27 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: you're drunk go home :p 11:34 ElectronLibre I've just drunk orange juice, it's true ^^'... 11:40 Krock I found horalse game! https://github.com/SuperNascher/Minetest-Holarse-Modpack 11:40 Krock * Holarse-Game 11:41 PenguinDad Krock: I was faster than you :P 11:41 Krock PenguinDad, omg noez 11:42 Megaf_ Hi 11:43 ElectronLibre Hi Megaf_. 12:03 Krock http://i.imgur.com/KxJ07r9.jpg 12:05 PenguinDad Krock: Fix yer leaves 12:05 Krock PenguinDad, accept the un-fancy trees 12:06 PenguinDad Krock: since when are non-fancy leaves white? 12:07 Krock PenguinDad, since alpha turns white 12:07 PenguinDad eeew 12:09 ElectronLibre Wow, white leaves, like on my screens. 12:09 ElectronLibre And a nyan cat :D. 12:12 Krock ^^ 12:13 Krock well, it's a poor NC because the tree destroyed it partwise 12:19 ElectronLibre The head is still here, and some rainbows :). 12:21 ElectronLibre It's always useful having a nyan cat. 12:22 * PenguinDad doesn't ping Kro​ck 12:23 * Krock sees a square inside his name 12:23 Krock © 12:24 Krock LOL 12:24 PenguinDad Krock: Congratulations, your unicode support is totally broken! 12:24 Krock imgur failed to upload the image 3 times, now the message. 12:24 Krock That0s a lot of images! Are you sure you're a human? 12:24 Krock captcha... 12:25 * PenguinDad isn't a human :( 12:25 Krock the images is 2 times in my account now... 12:25 Krock lol 12:26 Krock http://i.imgur.com/1YnuhAl.jpg 12:26 ElectronLibre Ho no, a ©opyright... 12:27 * ElectronLibre isn't too... 12:28 * RumiaGloop licks Krock 12:28 * Krock unlicks Krock 12:29 ElectronLibre Wow, what mapgen is it? 12:29 Krock yappy. 12:30 Krock i liek jpeg for screenshots. 12:31 ElectronLibre An other cat? 12:32 Krock hmm i found one 1 minute ago...closed minetest already :/ 12:32 Krock (using dummy backend) 12:32 PenguinDad eee​w jpeg 12:33 Krock perlin noise is pseudorandom. 12:34 LemonLake god i am dead for ideas 12:35 Krock need a grave stone "Here lies 'ideas'" 12:35 Krock ? 12:35 LemonLake yes please 12:36 * Krock slaps LemonLake with a grave stone 12:36 LemonLake ouxh 12:37 LemonLake gonna completely redo my website template...again 12:38 PenguinDad LemonLake: does this song inspire you? https://soundcloud.com/edm/snails-bawdy-rdm-edmcom-exclusive 12:38 LemonLake already heard it 12:38 LemonLake and it does not 12:38 LemonLake to be honest it sounds a lot like knife party and im not into that sort of stuff 12:51 * RumiaGloop licks ElectronLibre 12:51 * sfan5 meows at RumiaGloop 12:51 RumiaGloop mew 12:54 * ElectronLibre feed RumiaGloop and sfan5. 12:56 * sfan5 meows 12:56 ElectronLibre Do you want some milk? 12:56 sfan5 no 12:56 ElectronLibre Ok. 13:00 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((-< 13:00 * sfan5 ignores the fish 13:00 * john_minetest pets sfan5 13:00 * sfan5 ignores the petting 13:00 * jin_xi pulls out the laser pointer 13:01 * sfan5 ignores the laser pointer 13:01 * Amaz puts a mouse in front of sfan5 13:01 twoelk an ingnorable cat? 13:01 * sfan5 ignores the mouse 13:02 sfan5 "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10 (Windows/6.1-Service_Pack_1 x86_64)" 13:02 sfan5 ew 13:02 sfan5 someone is using windows as a server os 13:02 ElectronLibre Ho no... 13:03 twoelk isn't Krock doing so? 13:03 Krock I do. yes. 13:03 T4im hm.. is there a serverflag for 'does not run on an operating system', so users may skip it? 13:03 Krock sfan5, that's my server 13:03 Krock windows vista 13:03 T4im ew 13:04 twoelk T4im: ? 13:04 twoelk what for? 13:04 T4im twoelk: flags like 'this is a dedicated server'.. which is just as interesting 13:05 T4im well i dont know abotu you.. but i dont want to spend time building something on a server thats gone the next minute because there was a bluescreen :P 13:05 * twoelk doesn't like the skip it part 13:06 twoelk T4im: study the uptime/age info 13:06 T4im hehe 13:06 T4im good point 13:07 T4im is probably even more helpful 13:09 T4im .. but not provided as it seems :/ 13:10 twoelk If you rephrase it as: statistics about the OS's the servers run on. I would find it interesting :-) 13:11 twoelk you where refering to this? http://servers.minetest.net/ 13:12 T4im no the other one.. this one seems not to render due to a stray script tag 13:12 twoelk ? 13:12 T4im as in 13:14 T4im indeed 13:15 T4im not outside the html tags anyway 13:15 T4im still odd.. firefox 31 here.. wouldnt have guesed that ff differs so strongly between versions 13:15 twoelk should not 13:16 PenguinDad T4im: the page loads in iceweasel 31 13:16 T4im either way.. its invalid markup, so its an undefined scenario anyway 13:16 T4im penguindad: non in mine :/ 13:16 T4im not* 13:17 twoelk am using 32.0.1 for some hours now, but it worked before 13:20 twoelk hm maybe sfan5 should move the line: into the section? 13:25 T4im hmm the stray script tag seems recoverable though invalid.. turns out i just don't load jquery locally due to google being blocked.. but yea.. the script tag still belongs at the end of hte body tag :P 13:26 shadowzone VanessaE, isis.inchra.net/#minetest just had a MAJOR join/leave flood. 13:27 shadowzone Or ShadowNinja, one of the operators on that channel. 13:28 T4im netsplit? 13:28 shadowzone No. 13:28 shadowzone A join/leave flood. 13:28 Hirato maybe it's isis :M 13:28 shadowzone We have 31 people on then all the sudden we had 98 people/ 13:28 shadowzone *. 13:28 T4im well, are they generated names? like of a botnet? 13:29 shadowzone Yes. 13:29 T4im :/ 13:29 shadowzone They were saying some VERY crude things. 13:29 Jordach it seems they are the USERS FROM THIS CHANNEL but as a botnet 13:29 shadowzone Jordach, +1. 13:29 T4im O_o 13:30 shadowzone *sfan5410NAH* gay/10 I just got that in a pm. 13:30 shadowzone It i s sfan5's IP. 13:30 shadowzone *is 13:30 Jordach shadowzone, it isn't 13:31 ElectronLibre Ho my... Hum, do you remember a flooder on #minetest who said this kind of things? 13:31 Jordach ElectronLibre, it's markv 13:31 * PenguinDad sighs 13:31 ElectronLibre Yes... I've read the logs of August-2 and August-1... 13:31 shadowzone Crap! 13:32 ElectronLibre The only thing you can do is find a way to disconnect every bots and block him... I suppose... 13:33 ElectronLibre But why the hell does he hate MineTest? 13:34 twoelk he hates nobody he is just playing with peoples nerves 13:34 shadowzone Like mine/ 13:34 Jordach and he logged in with his actual phone on Inchra 13:34 shadowzone I'm about to lose it. 13:35 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: It's Minetest not MineTest 13:35 ElectronLibre Sorry, problem with my keyboard. 13:35 shadowzone By the way DO NOT let Microsoft buy mojang. 13:36 PenguinDad shadowzone: sorry but we can't stop them 13:36 shadowzone Me and a few other people have a speculation that they'll start going after Minetest. 13:36 ElectronLibre That will probably kill MC... Nobody can buy Minetest. 13:36 shadowzone True, But still. 13:38 shadowzone Did you just have MarkV do something bad here too? 13:38 PenguinDad Let's get this Witchhunt after voxel games started! :/ 13:38 ElectronLibre But, if MC "dies", every players of MC will probably go to minetest, it will probably be terrible! 13:40 T4im hmm don't necessarily imply from their inability to develop software an inability to buy and develop/merge companies... 13:41 T4im they might end up adding their xbox community onto it 13:43 twoelk hehe, trying to have a look at inchranet took down all my irc connections 13:44 ElectronLibre "Why is him so bad?" 13:45 SylvieLorxu shadowzone: That's rather difficult seeing how Minecraft isn't even an original game 13:46 shadowzone Nope. 13:46 SylvieLorxu Worst case scenario they'll push Minetest into renaming themselves 13:46 shadowzone Then I'll have to pull out Shadow|Dwarf. 13:47 ElectronLibre Minecraft is inspired by Infiniminer and Minetest by Minecraft, Minecraft was just the most popular. 13:49 T4im ms has made afaik some committments to stop sueing open source projects for now 13:50 T4im so that shouldn't be an issue 13:50 twoelk bah soccer can't sue basketball for using a ball 13:50 T4im i usually would agree. but we are talking microsoft 13:50 T4im they have a history of sueing without reason 13:50 shadowzone Yep. 13:50 twoelk oh they do have reasons 13:50 twoelk just none that I like 13:50 T4im simply because they can sue competition into bankrupcy, no matter the matter at hand... at least in the usa 13:51 T4im thats how staroffice became openoffice 13:51 T4im :) 13:51 ElectronLibre They can't sue all the community, or any core-dev, or celeron55... 13:52 twoelk haha ms and markv in the same corner: they do it just because they can 13:54 * ElectronLibre thinks that markv could be Bill Gates xD 13:55 shadowzone XD 13:55 twoelk he might be bored 13:55 ElectronLibre What!? 13:55 twoelk splitter splatter 13:56 PenguinDad Splat split! 13:56 ElectronLibre What is going on? 13:57 ElectronLibre O.O 14:03 ElectronLibre I throught it was an attack againt the chan.. 14:04 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: that was just a netsplit 14:04 ElectronLibre *against What is a netsplit? 14:05 PenguinDad !g Netsplit 14:05 MinetestBot PenguinDad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit 14:05 PenguinDad ^ ElectronLibre 14:05 T4im irc is a network of several servers that are interconnected 14:05 ElectronLibre Thank you. 14:05 T4im sometimes the connection between servers goes down 14:05 T4im or servers go down 14:06 ElectronLibre Oh, nodes are disconnected, I see. 14:07 T4im sometimes it can be an attack against the network though 14:10 ElectronLibre I see... Nothing serious in this case I hope.. 14:22 SylvieLorxu It's probably just Freenode being Splitnode again 14:26 ElectronLibre Again?? 14:26 Amaz :/ 14:29 twoelk wow which side do I end up now? 14:30 * twoelk is using kornbluth today 14:30 * Amaz is aswell! 14:31 Amaz *as well 14:31 PenguinDad twoelk: on the same side as sendak is 14:34 ElectronLibre Ok, I see. 14:35 PenguinDad Is that unknown third-party markv? 14:35 SylvieLorxu Okay, in this case it seems a few Freenode got attacked 14:35 twoelk ElectronLibre: oh dear, you may have been right after all :-( 14:35 SylvieLorxu *Freenode servers 14:35 SylvieLorxu And we apparently have to change our passwords 14:35 SylvieLorxu Meh... 14:35 ElectronLibre Can someone can give me the command to change our password please? 14:36 twoelk this will wreck my password system :-/ 14:36 Amaz /msg nickserv set password password 14:36 ElectronLibre *Can someone Thank you. 14:36 jin_xi /msg nickserv hunter2 hunter2 14:37 T4im alternativly you can use setpass 14:37 T4im in case you forgot your current one :p 14:37 ElectronLibre I perfectly remember it and it was changed :D. 14:38 T4im and why would you say we need to change them? was there an announcement? 14:39 ElectronLibre [...] For now, we recommend that every change their NickServ password as a precaution. 14:39 twoelk oh doesn't show up in the logs? 14:39 SylvieLorxu A lot of clients display that in the main server thing, quite unclear 14:39 ElectronLibre I think global noticed are not registered in the logs. 14:39 SylvieLorxu They should just sent this to every channel 14:39 ElectronLibre Around 37500 channels. 14:40 Amaz I think that it is a pm that shows up in whatever channel the user is currently viewing. 14:40 SylvieLorxu Nope, it's sent server-wide 14:40 SylvieLorxu So it belongs in the server buffer 14:40 twoelk hm no message in minetest-de and minetest-dev it seems 14:40 SylvieLorxu But some clients display it in the currently active channel 14:40 Amaz I just got one in the channel I was in. 14:41 ElectronLibre Probably it's just sent to every users in their text box. 14:41 ElectronLibre That explain why there is only one, but everyone can read it. 14:41 T4im well /notice is usually shown in place 14:41 SylvieLorxu No, it was sent as a global notice, which is user and channel independant and, in most (but not all) clients is displayed in the server buffer 14:41 Amaz Right. 14:42 SylvieLorxu XChat is a notable exception that uses the current channel, AFAIK 14:42 Amaz HexChat does as well. 14:42 PenguinDad (Global) notices are always shown in the server buffer for me 14:42 ElectronLibre Ok, I see. 14:42 PenguinDad Amaz: HexChat is just an improved version of XChat 14:43 twoelk define: server buffer 14:43 T4im so.. what if that global notice was part of the attack? 14:43 ElectronLibre Type !g server buffer? 14:43 Amaz Yeah. 14:43 Amaz A lot improved, imo 14:43 SylvieLorxu twoelk: The entry in a client for the server, not for a specific channel 14:43 SylvieLorxu (In the channel list) 14:44 T4im like.. taking over a certain part of the network, sending you the notice, so you send your new and old password via set password to the attacker? ;) 14:44 ElectronLibre We can just trust what the operators say... 14:44 T4im you cant trust that the operator is the operator 14:44 PenguinDad T4im: that would in work theory 14:44 T4im though if you connect via tls you might decrease your risk considerably to that 14:45 PenguinDad s/in work/work in/ 14:45 T4im using setpass might be better here, as it at least makes sure you set the password via a different channel 14:47 * T4im wonders if freenode at least requires their servers to TLS between them 14:48 Amaz /msg nickserv set password newpasshere is the way they recommend in #freenode... 14:48 fishyWET appears dickson.freenode.net was the one hit 14:53 VanessaE_ there, changed mine just in case. 14:53 * ElectronLibre tried to connect to a minetest server and minetest crashed O_O. 14:53 VanessaE_ (even though I allegedly use SASL, it doesn't always work right) 14:54 sfan5 VanessaE_: set your client to require sasl 14:54 sfan5 I forgot to change the password in the sasl module and <*sasl> Disabling network, we require authentication. 14:54 joseph_ hello 14:55 VanessaE_ sfan5: sometimes it times-out on connect 14:55 ElectronLibre Hello joseph_. 14:55 shadowzone Changed mine. 14:55 joseph_ Hi Electronlibre 14:55 ElectronLibre Changed too. It's more secure. 14:56 twoelk strangethingsahappening 14:56 joseph_ How do you make charcoal & black dye? 14:56 VanessaE_ joseph_: charcoal isn't an item 14:56 VanessaE_ black dye is made from two dark grey dyes 14:57 VanessaE_ (why??) 14:57 VanessaE_ dark grey is made from cyan and orange I think 14:57 ElectronLibre There is a lot of recipes for black dye. 14:57 joseph_ I could find how to make black dye anywhere 14:57 twoelk somegame has cook wood=charcoal iirc 14:57 VanessaE_ sfan5: is there some reason black coal is not directly made from coal? 14:57 VanessaE_ joseph_: black dye is made from two dark grey dyes 14:57 sfan5 dunno 14:58 VanessaE_ sfan5: I have that recipe in unified dyes; I recommend you add it to minetest_game. making black from two dark greys is stupid. 14:59 twoelk was that a slot left open for some other recipe? 14:59 VanessaE_ twoelk: no, it was just never added I guess 15:02 twoelk looking at what iqualfragile says at minetest-dev, did you ever have larger rollbacks than what he tried, VanessaE? 15:02 VanessaE_ I have larger rollback files, yes 15:02 VanessaE_ but I don't recall having tried to roll back as many changes though 15:03 twoelk thought there might be some limit, memory usage or whatever 15:03 joseph_ I just tried 2 grey dyes, and I get grey again 15:04 twoelk joseph_: what game or server? 15:04 * Jordach wins Cards Against Humanity https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Q7apBQUsikZX.png 15:04 joseph_ Minetest .4.10 15:05 twoelk running the default in singleplayer? 15:05 ElectronLibre Minetest_game? On a local server? 15:05 joseph_ just the one download, and cyan & orange makes dark green. Yes 15:05 joseph_ singleplayer 15:05 VanessaE_ joseph_: nono, *dark* grey 15:05 VanessaE_ and maybe it's cyan and brown to get dark grey 15:06 VanessaE_ anyway it's a stupid recipe 15:06 joseph_ how do you make dark grey. There are 2 colors I haven;t figured out. Dark Grey and black 15:06 VanessaE_ joseph_: try cyan + brown 15:06 T4im white and black -> grey, grey + black -> dark grey if i'm not mistaken 15:06 VanessaE_ T4im: no. 15:07 T4im not? hm 15:07 VanessaE_ T4im: because black is derived from dark grey in the default game 15:07 VanessaE_ instead of the other way around 15:07 T4im well with technic you can derive it from coaldust or earlier from coal if i remember correctly 15:08 VanessaE_ ok I just checked, cyan + brown = dark grey 15:08 T4im is unified dyes depending on default? or can it replace it completly? 15:08 VanessaE_ 2 dark grey = black 15:08 VanessaE_ T4im: it depends on it. 15:08 T4im ah, ok 15:08 joseph_ THat was it 2 dark greys and brown for dark grey. Thank you. 15:09 joseph_ brown & cyan for dark grey 15:09 joseph_ thanks 15:09 VanessaE_ joseph_: you're welcome 15:09 VanessaE_ T4im: unified dyes uses a more logical way to derive the colors, imho 15:10 joseph_ What is the charcoal mod for? 15:10 VanessaE_ joseph_: to make wood into charcoal ;) 15:11 T4im i wonder though.. are there already any mods that can make use of these huge amounts of different dyes? :D 15:11 VanessaE_ T4im: yes. several mods use it 15:12 T4im nice 15:12 ElectronLibre Some of my mods use them, and a lot of the publised mods too. 15:12 VanessaE_ some old mods, some current 15:12 joseph_ Then how do I make char coal. It says I have the mod installed 15:12 twoelk http://wiki.minetest.net/images/2/27/Dyes.png might be usefull 15:12 VanessaE_ joseph_: you probably need to cook some tree trunks or wooden planks 15:13 joseph_ tried both 15:13 joseph_ they don't burn in the furnace 15:13 VanessaE_ did you enable the mod in your world config? 15:14 joseph_ how do you do that? It's not in the menu? 15:14 VanessaE_ select the world you want to play in, click "Configure" 15:14 VanessaE_ select the mod in the list, tick the "[ ] Enable" box at the top of the list 15:15 VanessaE_ then click "Save" and go play 15:15 joseph_ Ok. I thought because it was installed it was enabled. That makes sense. 15:16 VanessaE_ I wish,. 15:16 VanessaE_ I warned that mods should be enabled-by-default but nope. others thought this was better. 15:17 joseph_ Atleast they should beenabled if they come with the base install 15:18 * twoelk doesn't think charcoal is in the base install 15:19 joseph_ Pipeworks requires mesecons and it's rated -1. anybody use pipeworks? 15:19 VanessaE_ -1 ?! 15:19 VanessaE_ D: 15:19 VanessaE_ and it does NOT require mesecons 15:19 VanessaE_ lots of people use pipeworks 15:20 ElectronLibre They could make the server crash even they come from the base install. And if you only want some mods for a world, you can choose those you want and those you don't want :). 15:20 VanessaE_ what chowderhead rated it -1 ???? 15:20 joseph_ I have no idea. That's what comes up when I search for mesecon 15:20 twoelk but it is more fun with mesecons and technic and ... 15:20 ElectronLibre I've seen popular mods with rate -1 and I've never understood why, I don't know how the mmdb runs. 15:20 twoelk search where? 15:20 VanessaE_ joseph_: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=27794 15:21 T4im the game-mods are afaik auto enabled, arent they? 15:21 joseph_ From inside the menu 15:21 VanessaE_ joseph_: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=628 15:21 VanessaE_ joseph_: read those forum topics please. 15:21 VanessaE_ THOSE are the real places to get info, not the minetest menu - that data is not entirely accurate. 15:21 T4im and yes, pipeworks is one of the 'big' mods that is being referred and dependend on by other mods 15:22 * T4im loves pipeworks 15:22 twoelk the mmdb that feeds the inMinetest menu is verry much work in progress 15:22 joseph_ Do I get the latest from the store? 15:22 T4im especially the waterpipes are a great addition.. it would be nice, if that would replace bucket placed sources :P 15:22 VanessaE_ joseph_: no. get the latest from those forum links 15:23 twoelk surf here https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/ and change rating ;-P 15:24 VanessaE_ also pipeworks shows a rating of 4, did someone already vote it up? 15:24 joseph_ Well, that's frustrating 15:24 ElectronLibre Hmm.. I remember this (http://wiki.minetest.net/File:Modsonservers.png) but I throught pipeworks was in it.. 15:25 joseph_ In the store when I do a search it still says -1 15:26 Krock hmm. pipeworks got 2 lines on my search site 15:26 VanessaE_ joseph_: don't use the inbuilt mod store. 15:26 Krock *likes 15:26 twoelk the current mmdb has just been up for a short time so input from confused new users should be valuable 15:26 ElectronLibre Pipeworks was in it on April 2014. 15:27 twoelk yeah but mmdb was down inbetween 15:27 T4im well, i'm not sure that at the moment theres any server active with it.. landrush contains it so far i know, but is deserted.. ethicrush is currently down for a few months.. any other servers having pipeworks atm? 15:27 joseph_ Ok. Isn 15:28 joseph_ Isn't that the deafult way new people will try and find mods? 15:28 twoelk VEC and VES use it 15:28 joseph_ It is built intothe game 15:29 twoelk it should but is not perfect yet 15:34 iqualfragile VanessaE_: nobody, sapier just did not manage to use a json api correctly (however thats even possible) 15:35 twoelk Krock, how do I get your search page to list all mods :-) 15:35 Krock twoelk, search for '] [' 15:35 Krock problem solved? 15:36 twoelk hehe, I remember some mods that lack those 15:36 iqualfragile VanessaE_: yes, 4 people rated your mod, the reviews are readable on the mod page, all are positive 15:36 iqualfragile https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mod/pipeworks/ 15:37 Krock twoelk, AFAIK, there's no other keyword to list them all 15:37 Amaz iqualfragile, do you maintain the mmdb? 15:38 ElectronLibre Pipeworks' rating on mmdb is now 4 :D! 15:38 twoelk hm 15 pages with maximal 15 entries 15:38 iqualfragile Amaz: content? no 15:38 iqualfragile Amaz: programming: yes 15:38 Krock twoelk, about 900 mods are registered 15:38 iqualfragile Amaz: design? ask rubenwardy 15:38 Amaz Programming was what I was after! 15:39 twoelk there are more than 225 mods, more like 900+ 15:39 Amaz Do you think you will add a games section? 15:39 Krock 992 to be exact 15:40 VanessaE_ iqualfragile: then please PLEASE yell at him! 15:40 iqualfragile VanessaE_: at who? 15:40 iqualfragile Amaz: yes 15:40 joseph_ I created a water elevator. Is there another way besides stairs to get down quickly 15:40 VanessaE_ iqualfragile: sapier. and for G*d sakes you and the store need to add a pull-from-git option. 15:41 VanessaE_ joseph_: use something like the travelnet mod 15:41 VanessaE_ or use ladders and sneak elevators 15:41 Amaz iqualfragile: Great! Any idea when it will be done? 15:41 joseph_ Although I do like the water elevator 15:42 iqualfragile Amaz: no, first thing i will have to do is make the mmdb use the new forums accounts 15:42 Amaz Okay. 15:42 VanessaE_ iqualfragile: I and the rest of us modders just do not have time to upload new versions to the store, especially if a mod doesn't *have* versions. This is 2014, there needs to be a simple, automated way to ensure that the user always gets the most up-to-date code if that's how a mod is distributed. 15:43 twoelk Krock: so I ight be missing some 250+ here :-) http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Twoelk/mods_list_experiments 15:43 iqualfragile i am aware of the current year, what does that information have to do with the rest? 15:43 VanessaE_ iqualfragile: "we have the technology, we can rebuild [it]." 15:43 iqualfragile every mod has versions, even if every single commit is a version 15:44 Krock twoelk, "Adds something." 15:44 twoelk joseph_: put some nodes in the bottom of a pit, go to top and jump 15:44 PenguinDad 2014 The year of rolling release! 15:44 VanessaE_ iqualfragile: in other words, there's nothing but apathy stopping this from being made possible. no offense. 15:44 twoelk Krock: wip 15:45 twoelk joseph_: else use sethome command 15:45 joseph_ I did that as soon as I found out about it. 15:46 iqualfragile VanessaE_: no, as explained every single time someone brings this up: the problem is that i want to have versions in the mmdb, mainly for security reasons, a version can be aprooved by somebody, a repository can't 15:46 T4im a git tag can 15:46 VanessaE_ iqualfragile: my convenience as a modder trumps your security concerns. 15:46 iqualfragile nope 15:46 ElectronLibre +1 Rating for Pipeworks. 15:46 VanessaE_ I won't update stuff in the mod store - I don't have time for that. 15:47 iqualfragile minetest mods are inheriently insecure, they allow abitrary code to be executed 15:47 VanessaE_ and neither does he ^^^ 15:47 VanessaE_ :P 15:47 T4im a git tag resolved to a commit id can easily be approved in such a way, that any change of the history makes that approval automaticly invalid 15:47 iqualfragile i simply can't agree with letting random people execute code on our players computers 15:47 T4im additionally git tags allow being signed via gpg 15:47 twoelk iqualfragile: don't confuse first time users 15:47 VanessaE_ Calinou: just smile and nod your head in agreement ;) 15:48 * PenguinDad simply smiles and waves 15:48 VanessaE_ iqualfragile: two elks ;-) is right. don't confuse new users. 15:48 iqualfragile VanessaE_: if you disagree please explain why, without looking like a big fat idiot (no offense) 15:48 iqualfragile twoelk: first time users of what? 15:49 VanessaE_ iqualfragile: because noobs get outdated version of whatever from the mod store, as joseph_ here just did, and us modders are too busy modding, playing, managing servers, and getting on with this thing called "real life" to spend time also updating the store that then has to wait for YOU to approve a mod. 15:49 Calinou one second, reading logs 15:49 VanessaE_ versions* 15:49 iqualfragile s/YOU/any forum mod/ 15:49 T4im i dont see security concerns and convenience conflicting here O_o why are you arguing? 15:49 iqualfragile VanessaE_ is lazy 15:49 Calinou the mod store misses so many things 15:49 iqualfragile so am i 15:49 VanessaE_ iqualfragile: not lazy, busy. 15:49 VanessaE_ do you even watch the shit I do lately? 15:50 VanessaE_ I. do. not. have. time. 15:50 Calinou there should be several people around to approve mod, not just one 15:50 Calinou like on the forums right now 15:50 Calinou and the upside of forums is better formatting… full BBCode 15:50 iqualfragile VanessaE_: no, i actually participated in this real life you talked about quite a lot recently, sorry i could not watch every step you make 15:50 iqualfragile Calinou: markup 15:50 PenguinDad Too. many. periods. 15:50 VanessaE_ iqualfragile: case in point. 15:50 Calinou can you use HTML/Markdown? 15:50 iqualfragile Calinou: every forum mod can approve versons 15:50 iqualfragile Calinou: yes 15:51 Calinou approving versions by hand is quite tedious for most mods and incredibly tedious for rolling-release mods 15:51 VanessaE_ mods don't always have versions and they aren't always distributed as ZIPs 15:51 kaeza greetings 15:51 T4im you can always diff between current version and the last approved version 15:51 VanessaE_ greetz, kaeza 15:51 Calinou my mods/games/packs are rolling release because I don't see the point in versioning small stuff like that 15:51 Calinou they're available as .zip though 15:52 iqualfragile VanessaE_: an idea to resolve the problem would be a way to create a version from a repository 15:52 iqualfragile this is planned 15:52 VanessaE_ my game is "versioned" by build ID, and that's just the date/time stamp that's inserted into the ZIP that's auto-uploaded to my website (a process that will NOT work with the mod store) 15:53 iqualfragile VanessaE_: oh, it won't? 15:53 iqualfragile i do think it would 15:53 iqualfragile curl is magick 15:53 VanessaE_ no, not unless you have ssh publkey auth + rsync 15:53 iqualfragile *magic 15:53 VanessaE_ -l 15:54 twoelk iqualfragile: so actually you are forcing modders to abandon rolling releases in favor of less frequent major updates, which have ratings that are valid for a longer version life 15:54 Amaz How about having the mob repo check for updates each week, and if there are any, submit them for review, where trusted people could check and approve them? 15:55 twoelk wont work in real life ;-) 15:55 Amaz twoelk, my idea? 15:56 T4im all rolling releases have still release cycles.. so _every_ rolling release has versions.. the lenght of those cycles may vary, but should not be a concern to the software 15:56 Amaz Or what you said? 15:56 VanessaE_ T4im: incorrect. 15:56 twoelk former 15:56 VanessaE_ T4im: for example dreambuilder might get one update in a few days' time, or it might get 10 updates in one day. 15:56 VanessaE_ and that's not theory, that's practice. 15:57 shadowzone VanessaE_, What's with the underscore? 15:57 T4im vanessae: if its in a git repository it has versions... its a versioning system after all... the difference is, that you want to "deploy" in shorter cycles than others might 15:57 VanessaE_ shadowzone: netsplit, too lazy to re-auth 15:57 shadowzone Oh. 15:58 iqualfragile VanessaE_: even !YOU! can review mods: https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/queue/ 15:58 VanessaE_ T4im: you're implying I should make and upload a new release to the store for every one of those updates? 15:58 Amaz twoelk, My idea? If so, why wouldn't it work? 15:58 T4im all mmdb has to do is take a commit id or git tag or other kind of rev each time you want it to be "deployed", then grep that stuff from the repoistory at that ref, optionally go through an approval workflow... 15:58 VanessaE_ T4im: which is something iqualfragile refuses to do. 15:58 VanessaE_ T4im: he wants discrete ZIP files. 15:59 raffahacks I've converted my friend from minecraft to minetest :) 15:59 T4im which might even result in a git tag that is signed by the person doign the approval 16:00 twoelk Amaz: (each week, trusted people, review) is dificult with everything being volantary 16:00 T4im that commit id is cryptographicly guaranteed to correlate to a very specific version of the repository including all history... any change in that will result in a different revision, thereby making any aproval on that id invalid 16:00 Amaz I suppose so. 16:00 twoelk twoelk: and it should because of: volanteers 16:01 T4im then you only need to argue about how frequent approvals are being reasonable.. but git actually makes approval easier when you only have to approve the diff and not a zip file 16:01 iqualfragile T4im: code https://bitbucket.org/iqualfragile/mmdb/ django documentation: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.7/ celery documentation: http://www.celeryproject.org/ 16:02 * twoelk remembers some Django, a dirty town and a coffin 16:05 Calinou Amaz, each week isn't enough, updates need to be as fast as possible 16:08 twoelk T4im: git is only easier for git users 16:10 Amaz Calinou, yes, but once a week seems reasonable, as most people won't update their mods more than that, and it gives the testers a certain time when the mod database will require mods to be tested, rather than have a influx of mods over a week. 16:11 Amaz Or maybe, for the big mod makers, a exemption from the testing could be made, as they are known to be trustworthy... 16:12 Calinou not enough 16:12 Calinou a Git repository, in comparison, is updated instantly 16:12 Amaz Yep. But this is linked into the game, and so, the content needs to be trustworthy. 16:13 Calinou in-game mmdb is buggy anywya 16:13 Calinou oh, there seriously lacks license selection and NC clause is allowed 16:13 Calinou first one needs to be fixed to not force people to add stupid hacks in their description, second one will eventually get is in the land of Debian non-free 16:13 Calinou get us* 16:13 Amaz So, it requires that mods be tested for malicious code. 16:14 Amaz Fair enough. 16:14 Calinou what do other extension repositories like Mozilla Addons do? 16:14 Calinou for their approval process, if any 16:14 Calinou voting? 16:14 Calinou AUR does voting 16:16 VanessaE_ how the fuck are we supposed to be able to test that a mod is truly non-malicious? 16:16 Calinou read its code 16:16 VanessaE_ that's AVG-level stuff there 16:16 T4im twoelk: git would be hidden behind a frontend... and from a mod developer i believe requiring versioning isn't a bad thing... 16:16 VanessaE_ Calinou: binary code. 16:16 Calinou ideally we'd have sandboxing or safety measures in Lua API… 16:16 Calinou VanessaE_, the mods are in Lua? 16:16 Calinou so what does binary have to do 16:17 VanessaE_ Calinou: mods can be pre-compiled. sandboxing is coming soon but isn't here yet. 16:17 Calinou requiring versioning for a mod is like requiring all mods to use a VCS or such 16:17 Calinou it's not suitable for all cases 16:17 Calinou especially small mods 16:17 Amaz +Calinou 16:18 sfan5 Calinou: non-free mods won't get us into the nonfree debian repo section 16:18 T4im calinou: when i say versioning, i meant a VCS,.. so not just like it.. exactly that :p 16:18 T4im a VCS does versioning after all 16:18 Calinou Calinou: non-free mods won't get us into the nonfree debian repo section 16:18 Calinou they perfectly cloud 16:18 Calinou STK doesn't disallow non-DFSG stuff without reason 16:19 T4im Calinou: but the mods are bundled separatly in debian 16:19 T4im so only the mods would land there 16:19 Calinou no they aren't 16:19 Calinou there's an in-game repository 16:19 Calinou there are packages for mods too, but no one uses and updates them 16:20 Calinou they have a 1 year old More Blocks, More Ores and Pipeworks 16:20 T4im the in-game repository however does not auto-download anything.. debian does not forbid their users to download non-free stuff after all 16:20 T4im iceweasel is free, yet you may download proprietary addosn with it.. 16:20 sfan5 Calinou: ofc they could; debian could completly close tomorrow too, will they? no 16:21 * Calinou facepalm 16:21 Calinou 18<29T4im> iceweasel is free, yet you may download proprietary addosn with it.. 16:21 Calinou OK here you're silly 16:21 Calinou the MDDB is an official resource 16:21 Calinou included into the game 16:21 Calinou no compile-time option to disable it 16:21 iqualfragile Calinou: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1022 16:21 T4im so is addons.mozilla.com 16:21 iqualfragile loong loong discussion 16:21 Calinou but Firefox isn't DFSG/FSDG-compliant 16:21 iqualfragile please add stuff not allready said there 16:21 Calinou they don't want it 16:21 Calinou here we may want it 16:22 iqualfragile if you don't have anything unsaid please don't spam here 16:22 VanessaE_ I give up 16:23 Calinou we all gave up on MMDB :P 16:23 * sfan5 meows at RumiaGloopMkII 16:23 * sfan5 shoots cats at RumiaGloopMkII 16:23 * RumiaGloopMkII dies 16:24 * shadowzone tosses sfan5 a ball of yarn. 16:24 * PenguinDad throws a cat at 0.9c at shadowzone 16:24 * sfan5 throws a cat at 0.9°C at shadowzone 16:24 * iqualfragile explodes bc shockwave 16:24 * VanessaE_ slides a bowl of cream out onto the channel's coffee table 16:24 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/JB1Ggy1.gif 16:24 sfan5 we have a coffee table? 16:24 sfan5 thats new 16:24 Jordach meow 16:24 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 16:24 VanessaE_ sfan5: well we have a channel sofa don't we? 16:25 * sfan5 noms the bowl 16:25 Jordach i really need to render the channel 16:25 sfan5 yes we do 16:25 sfan5 i really need to render the channel 16:25 sfan5 this 16:25 Jordach with a proper layout and shit 16:25 sfan5 so much 16:25 VanessaE_ sfan5: and it's a homedecor/lrfurn sofa, right? 16:25 VanessaE_ Jordach: I'd love to see that :) 16:25 PenguinDad i really need to render the channel 16:25 PenguinDad Yes pleas 16:25 PenguinDad e 16:25 sfan5 VanessaE_: I dunno, I didn't put it there 16:25 Jordach Step 1) log the fuck into VE-Creative 16:25 RumiaGloopMkII #somanycats 16:25 Calinou Delete button doesn't ask for confirmation on MMDB… bad thing 16:25 VanessaE_ sfan5: well if it is, then we must surely have a coffee table too :D 16:25 sfan5 :D 16:26 Jordach Step 2) decide on the room shape and design 16:26 sfan5 !g which color does our sofa have? 16:26 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.wikihow.com/Spray-Paint-Your-Sofa 16:26 Amaz XD 16:26 sfan5 apparently brown 16:26 Jordach sfan5, use a random colour based on the dyes 16:26 PenguinDad xD 16:26 VanessaE_ Jordach: you're welcome to use VE-C to model it or at least lay it out 16:27 VanessaE_ sfan5: no, see, they painted it yellow :) 16:27 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/ApMDZkq.jpg 16:27 sfan5 !c random.choice(["very light", "light", "", "dark", "very dark"]) + " " + random.choice(["Red", "Green", "Blue", "Yellow", "Brown", "Purple", "Pink", "Orange", "Gray", "Black", "White"]) 16:27 MinetestBot 'very light Black' 16:28 sfan5 ^ Jordach 16:28 VanessaE_ very light black? heh 16:28 Jordach sfan5, time saved = 1000 seconds 16:28 Jordach there's a lrfurn derived sofa model somewhere in my dropbox 16:28 sfan5 how about the wand colors? 16:28 sfan5 !c random.choice(["very light", "light", "", "dark", "very dark"]) + " " + random.choice(["Red", "Green", "Blue", "Yellow", "Brown", "Purple", "Pink", "Orange", "Gray", "Black", "White"]) 16:28 MinetestBot 'light White' 16:28 sfan5 hm 16:28 sfan5 !c random.choice(["very light", "light", "", "dark", "very dark"]) + " " + random.choice(["Red", "Green", "Blue", "Yellow", "Brown", "Purple", "Pink", "Orange", "Gray", "Black", "White"]) 16:28 MinetestBot 'very light Orange' 16:28 sfan5 ^ Jordach 16:28 VanessaE_ wand colors? 16:28 sfan5 walls 16:29 sfan5 I mean 16:29 VanessaE_ ah 16:29 VanessaE_ black and orange 16:29 sfan5 nah 16:29 VanessaE_ apropos given the time of year. 16:29 sfan5 light white and very light orange 16:29 sfan5 or wait 16:29 PenguinDad Black and Yellow :D 16:29 VanessaE_ PenguinDad: hello. 16:29 sfan5 Jordach: light white for the ceiling, very light orange for the walls 16:29 sfan5 PenguinDad: no u 16:29 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/wmgFVAm7Nhwv.png we gots a sofa 16:30 VanessaE_ PenguinDad: or was it, they get behind a fellow? :P 16:30 RumiaGloopMkII litebrite 16:30 VanessaE_ Jordach: that's sorta kinda somewhat based on lrfurn but not exactly :P 16:30 Jordach VanessaE_, i wasn't in the mood for the legs 16:30 Jordach fuck that signal to noise 16:31 * RumiaGloopMkII noms Jordach 16:31 VanessaE_ heh 16:31 Jordach nom 16:31 Jordach VanessaE_, and mapping the nodebox mappings onto it is a pita 16:31 RumiaGloopMkII nom 16:32 sfan5 Jordach: final specs: very light black sofa, light white ceiling, very light orange walls, wooden coffee table 16:32 Jordach you want me to make a 1:1 copy, gtfo and go else where 16:32 sfan5 Jordach: and don't forget the cats 16:32 sfan5 :P 16:32 Jordach sfan5, not glass? 16:32 sfan5 hm no 16:32 sfan5 wooden looks better IMO 16:32 VanessaE_ Jordach: wait, remember we have an upstairs too 16:32 RumiaGloopMkII http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=26762583 nom 16:32 Jordach VanessaE_, bullshit 16:32 ElectronLibre Jordach, beautiful sofa :D. 16:32 sfan5 VanessaE_: IRC rooms not IRC houses 16:32 VanessaE_ Jordach: no, seriously. the kitten generator is up there, but OldCoder's kitten pile is down here. 16:32 VanessaE_ RumiaGloopMkII: isn't it? :) 16:32 RumiaGloopMkII idk 16:33 VanessaE_ haha 16:33 sfan5 RumiaGloopMkII: is she bleeding? D: 16:33 RumiaGloopMkII you guys redecorated 16:33 Jordach tl;dr we need a kitchen 16:33 RumiaGloopMkII I think we're renting space from the german channel 16:33 VanessaE_ RumiaGloopMkII: your kitten generator has been glitching out for a long time. fix the fucking thing :) 16:33 Amaz If you need an idea for a table, here's one I made: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bj9sCY19Twb1.png 16:33 * RumiaGloopMkII hands VanessaE_ a hammer 16:33 sfan5 !cat 16:33 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/3nHDsb8.jpg 16:33 * sfan5 throws ^ at RumiaGloopMkII 16:33 VanessaE_ see? 16:33 VanessaE_ look at the ears on that sucker? 16:33 VanessaE_ :) 16:33 sfan5 :D 16:34 * Jordach would pet that cat all day 16:34 * Jordach needs a cat model 16:34 * sfan5 advises Jordach to buy or adopt a cat 16:34 sfan5 you had a cat model 16:34 sfan5 you showed me a screeenshot 16:34 sfan5 -e 16:36 Jordach sfan5, that's MIA 16:38 Krock Amaz, dat table is too dark. 16:38 shadowzone I want a kitty cat now. 16:38 shadowzone But I can't have cats. 16:38 * Amaz likes dark wood furniture :P 16:39 * Jordach watches his system break limits again with HDX512 on VE-C 16:39 VanessaE_ heh 16:39 VanessaE_ HDX needs work :( 16:40 VanessaE_ many mods are getting out of date 16:41 * Krock does IRC.User[x] = IRC.User[x].Remove(8); 16:41 Krock ^v VanessaE_ 16:42 ^v Krock, what 16:42 Krock oops 16:44 Jordach VanessaE_, you're going to help me 16:44 Jordach my interior design sucks 16:45 PenguinDad /nick Pe < you mean this Krock 16:45 VanessaE_ I am? :P 16:45 Krock PenguinDad, 'Pe'? 16:46 VanessaE_ Krock: no idea, ask the people responsible for that mod :P 16:46 * Krock slaps VanessaE_ with /nick 16:46 Jordach flooring: carpet or wood 16:46 PenguinDad Krock: last 8 characters removed 16:46 * VanessaE_ smacks Krock with a _ 16:47 * Krock headdesks 16:47 * DogePony facehoofs 16:49 RumiaGloopMkII UNDERBARU 16:49 Xack holy crap 16:49 Xack a whiskers75 16:50 marioxcc hello. What would be required to trasnfer a LandRush world to another server without broking it?. 16:50 PenguinDad A wild whiskers75 appears! 16:50 marioxcc For instance, I know that unknown blocks and items may appear if I don't do it properly. Why does that happens and how can it be avoided? 16:51 T4im that's due to the mods lacking, that define those nodes 16:51 T4im usually 16:51 VanessaE marioxcc: just copy the world directory whole, and install the mods. that's it 16:52 VanessaE as long as the mods and game are there, the world should work 16:52 marioxcc VanessaE: Thanks you. We have unknown nodes in LandRush, I can't find anything on how to address that issue, would you be so kind to give me some pointers? 16:53 T4im thats because the nethermod is gone 16:53 T4im apparently some of the nodes were defined otherwise 16:53 VanessaE marioxcc: look at what kind of node it was and install the mod that defined it. like T4im says, maybe it was nether. maybe something else, etc. 16:53 T4im take an elevator down to nether.. spawn 6 and everhills elevator still teleport you there, since they werent updated.. you land in stone 16:53 marioxcc VanessaE: well, it was sevaral kind of nodes, like minecarts, and some nether stuff, yes 16:54 VanessaE marioxcc: then all you have to do is install the missing mods and enable them 16:54 marioxcc T4im, VanessaE: ok, thanks. 16:55 rubenwardy Hi all! 16:55 T4im the interesting thing is, that something apparently defines some of the nethernodes like nethersand and glowstones, but not netherrack 16:55 marioxcc will the mods fix the unknown nodes without further action? I thought that there was something like a register type of node function 16:55 T4im hello rubenwardy :) 16:56 VanessaE marioxcc: yes. 16:56 marioxcc wouldn't they just define a separate instance of that type of blocks? 16:56 VanessaE they will automatically fix. 16:56 marioxcc (so that the existing ones would remain unknown) 16:56 marioxcc ok 16:56 VanessaE if the node is the same as before 16:56 joseph_ I am getting an error with pushable_block. Anybody have a clue on this: 16:56 joseph_ 12:50:20: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA =========== 12:50:20: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from 12:50:20: ERROR[main]: [censored]\minetest-0.4.10-win64-msvc\minetest-0.4.10-64bit\bin\..\mods\pushable_block\init.lua: 12:50:20: ERROR[main]: ...inetest-0.4.10-64bit\bin\..\mods\pushable_block\init.lua:16: attempt to concatenate local 'monorail_modpath' (a nil value) 12:50:20: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: 12:50: 16:57 VanessaE e.g. if a node was registered as "foo:bar" and that's how it was saved in the map, then the next mod that registers foo:bar will cause the node to become defined again with whatever textures and properties are assigned thereto. 16:58 joseph_ do I need monorail_modpath? 16:58 VanessaE joseph_: rename the directory to monorail 16:58 marioxcc VanessaE: right, thanks :D 16:58 ElectronLibre And if you can, use pastebin.ubuntu.com :). 17:00 lemonlake_ https://cdn.mediacru.sh/D2VbhTN4MV8g.png 17:00 lemonlake_ how is it looking now? 17:01 joseph_ I don't have monorail. 17:01 VanessaE lemonlake_: nice. 17:01 rubenwardy Whatcha doing, lemonlake_? 17:01 PenguinDad lemonlake_: um, where's the difference? 17:01 VanessaE joseph_: get rid of that mod and get the real one then 17:01 VanessaE joseph_: get this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=730 17:01 ElectronLibre Enable the mod "monorail" instead of the old named version. 17:01 lemonlake_ rubenwardy: updating the website layout to make it more understandable 17:01 lemonlake_ PenguinDad: the top bar 17:02 Krock joseph_, rename the folder to 'pushable_block' 17:02 twoelk marioxcc: what are you up to? a personall copy of landrush? 17:02 Krock pushable_block = monorail 17:02 lemonlake_ PenguinDad: see the old version at http://lemonlake.nuclearstorm.net 17:02 VanessaE Krock: pushable_block\init.lua 17:02 VanessaE Krock: it already IS pushable_block. 17:02 Krock VanessaE, I saw it, yes 17:02 Krock oh 17:02 Krock oops :3 17:02 * rubenwardy will be releasing his programming language "beruben" soon XD 17:03 joseph_ I don't have monorail & it is named pushable_block 17:04 joseph_ That's why I don't understand this error 17:04 PenguinDad joseph_: the mod is named monorail 17:05 joseph_ DO you mean to rename pushable_block to monorail? 17:05 PenguinDad joseph_: yes 17:06 joseph_ Ah. Thanks. BTW the default install installs it as pushable 17:06 joseph_ pushable_block that is 17:06 Krock hmm it worked fine last time with pushable_block :/ 17:06 Krock possibly an outdated version 17:08 * Jordach_ pokes sfan5 to join isis.inchra.net 30000 17:08 joseph_ If it maters I am using the 64bit Visual C++ version. Should I also rename the "VanessaE-pipeworks-5b2e3a4" to "pipeworks"? 17:08 Krock ^exactly 17:09 Krock joseph_, look at the '[....]' brackets in the forum title. they tell you which name the folder must have 17:10 VanessaE joseph_: from the first post, "Install: Download and unzip the above file, rename VanessaE-pipeworks-blahblah to just "pipeworks", and move it into Minetest's mods directory." 17:10 VanessaE doesn't ANYONE read the install instructions anymore? *grumble* 17:11 Krock !wiki installing mods 17:11 MinetestBot "Prior to installing any mod, please make sure that you have received it from someone you trust." - http://wiki.minetest.net/installing_mods 17:11 Krock ^ 17:11 rubenwardy MinetestBot! 17:11 MinetestBot rubenwardy! 17:11 PenguinDad VanessaE: today's people except everything to work ootb 17:11 ElectronLibre I do. But it's logic renaming mods with only [a-z_0-9]. 17:12 VanessaE PenguinDad: I just wish I could get github to stop giving bullshit names to the extracted directory 17:12 VanessaE the name of the package is "pipeworks", not "VanessaE-pipeworks-foo" 17:13 ElectronLibre $ rename *-pipeworks-* pipeworks 17:13 PenguinDad foo is an interesting commit id :D 17:14 rubenwardy mine just says modname-master 17:14 Calinou remove -master 17:15 OldCoder 17:15 marioxcc hi OldCoder 17:15 sfan5 Jordach_: i did 17:16 ElectronLibre Hello OldCoder. 17:17 aldobr need help 17:17 aldobr i need to split a command parameter 17:17 aldobr it should be separated via spaces and validated for type 17:17 aldobr *by 17:17 ElectronLibre Yes. What command? 17:17 Krock aldobr, param:split(" ") 17:18 T4im aldobr: example: local target, transferAmount, subject = string.match(param, "transfer [^ ]+ ([^ ]+) ([0-9]+) ?(.*)") 17:18 T4im regex makes good type validation 17:18 aldobr hm 17:18 aldobr so number is ([0-9]+) 17:18 T4im yes 17:18 aldobr and string is [^ ]+ 17:18 T4im that reads as 'anything but space and at least one of it' 17:19 T4im the () are capture groups 17:19 Jordach_ sfan5, meow 17:19 aldobr thanks 17:19 T4im they are being assigned to the variables 17:19 sfan5 Jordach_: meow 17:20 T4im aldobr: split can be easier, but might not fit every usecase, where you have for example to accept text with spaces in it 17:21 Jordach_ sfan5, i have two materials you suggested 17:21 T4im after that you can use tonumber() and tostring() to enforce having the right type() which returns the type 17:21 T4im right type and type()...* 17:23 T4im aldobr: you might want to read http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial 17:25 aldobr how to detect if the match was not sucessfull (ie: if the player did not supply the correct parameters) ? 17:25 T4im match will return nil 17:25 aldobr hm 17:25 aldobr just anoither question, how to match negative numbers ? 17:27 aldobr negative or positive number (ie : integer) 17:27 T4im well.. (-?[0-9]+) should work.. if not you might have to escape -, but i think it should work so 17:28 Calinou mods starting with . will never be loaded (dotfiles) 17:28 Calinou even on Windows 17:28 Calinou but on Windows, at least on 8/8.1, you can't rename a file and make it begin with . from the GUI :( 17:28 Calinou or it says “Please enter a file name.” 17:29 T4im aldobr: note, that in the example i posted you transfer was not the chatcommand, but the first parameter that i expected there 17:29 PenguinDad It used to work in windows versions below 8 17:29 T4im so param does not contain the chatcommand itself 17:29 aldobr ok 17:29 aldobr thanks, very usefull 17:29 T4im also i swallowed the second parameter, which you might not want to do 17:30 T4im (it was parsed earlier in that code already) 17:30 PenguinDad T4im: param doesn't include the name of the chatcommand 17:31 T4im that's what i said, yes :P 17:34 sfan5 Jordach_: * Cannot join #minetest (Channel is invite only) wtf 17:38 * Krock wonders if someone would crash-test his minetest.register_ore() addition on yappy 17:41 ElectronLibre Calinou : About renaming file with ., I can do it. If you can't, try adding "". 17:41 ElectronLibre *on Windows 8/8.1 . 17:42 Calinou ah, thanks 17:42 Calinou "".filename 17:42 Calinou this? 17:42 Xack hey Calinou :) 17:44 ElectronLibre No, ".filename". 17:45 ElectronLibre That was the way to add a special extension to the filename (.lua, .vbs, .html, etc...). 17:50 * Krock gives Amaz a ']' 17:51 Amaz :P 17:51 Krock Amaz, you know why? 17:51 Calinou hi Xack :D 17:51 Xack :D 17:51 Calinou ElectronLibre, I can change the extension fine (by not hiding them) 17:51 Amaz Post? 17:51 Calinou but I can't begin a file name with . 17:52 Krock Amaz, 101% correct 17:52 * Amaz meant to click on preview! 17:52 ElectronLibre Hmm... can't help you Calinou... 17:53 Krock Calinou, try with batch? > ren old.blah .blah 17:54 Xack wait wtf 17:54 Xack Calinou is using windows? o.o 17:55 Calinou some PCs do 17:55 Calinou like work… 17:55 * Krock 's PC loves Windows XP 17:55 Calinou what's wrong with knowing how to use Windows? 17:55 Calinou you don't forget how to use GNU/Linux after that 17:55 T4im i hope so O_o 17:55 Xack Calinou: I know, I was just shocked, I thought you suddenly switched for a moment there... 17:56 Xack xD 17:56 Calinou I suddenly switched once, actually 17:56 * PenguinDad barely knows how to use windows xD 17:57 kaeza you gotta know the opposition in order to effectively bash it :P 17:57 T4im :> 17:59 aldobr finished adding programmed money transfer system to my mod 17:59 aldobr commands : 17:59 T4im hm? did i just give you a more fitting example than i thought? :P 17:59 aldobr /bank <- tells how much money you have in account 18:00 aldobr /transfer programs a transfer 18:00 aldobr /deletetransfer deletes a transfer 18:00 aldobr /listtransfers lists all trasnfers 18:00 T4im aldobr: we might have to talk then.. whats your mod name? not that we clash 18:00 aldobr ,mint 18:00 T4im ah 18:00 T4im ok 18:00 aldobr i added a banking system to my mint mod 18:00 T4im ok :) 18:01 T4im you got me worried for a second.. https://github.com/t4im/economies/tree/master/bank hehe 18:04 kaeza english is weird. they use the same word for two different, unrelated things 18:05 kaeza "mint" can mean the building where coins are forged, or, you know, that plant from which sweets and other stuff is made 18:05 jin_xi its because you press the metal to coins like candies... mints! 18:05 * jin_xi hides 18:06 * PenguinDad detects jin_xi 18:07 aldobr in my mint mod the values are based on coin objects 18:07 EvergreenTree LOL https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=154022#p154022 18:07 aldobr coins are minted from gold ingots etc 18:07 EvergreenTree this guy 18:07 kaeza maybe someone can give me an entire building if I ask for a mint? 18:07 aldobr you might get unluck and someone hands you a linux mint dvd 18:08 kaeza :P 18:08 * aldobr mandriva user 18:08 * sfan5 arch user 18:08 PenguinDad MinetestBot! 18:08 MinetestBot PenguinDad! 18:08 * kaeza Ubuntu user 18:09 * PenguinDad debian user 18:09 * Amaz Peppermint user 18:09 kaeza my distro is better! 18:09 * ElectronLibre debian user. 18:10 * ElectronLibre manjaro, archlinux, ubuntu user too.. 18:10 aldobr puppylinux for the win ! 18:10 * MinetestBot Ubuntu user 18:10 kaeza Puppy ♥ 18:10 aldobr i am not using openmandriva becouse its too big for my atom computer 18:11 aldobr all powerfull four threads atom d525 :P 18:12 * kaeza thought aldobr had a comp the size of an atom 18:12 kaeza also, sadly, being root all the time is not exactly...ehm... good for security. 18:12 * kaeza looks at puppy 18:12 aldobr atom is a misnnomer, its more like quark 18:14 ElectronLibre Who did make MinetestBot speaking? 18:14 * PenguinDad 18:15 sfan5 ElectronLibre: me 18:15 ElectronLibre There is a !me command? 18:16 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: try MinetestBot! 18:16 sfan5 ElectronLibre: yes 18:17 * PenguinDad didn't see the * MinetestBot Ubuntu user 18:18 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUeiwNKahWI&feature=youtu.be 18:18 * Krock didn't see the * PenguinDad didn't see the * MinetestBot Ubuntu user 18:18 RealBadAngel what do you think on that approach to highlighting? 18:18 PenguinDad EvergreenTree: that is a post with a really quality 18:18 Krock RealBadAngel. impressive view 18:18 PenguinDad + high 18:19 sfan5 RealBadAngel: looks good, customizeable color maybe; this should be the default for android 18:19 Jordach meow :3 18:19 aldobr who wants to implement a evolutionary tree system 18:19 aldobr ? 18:19 RealBadAngel sfan5, its textureable 18:20 RealBadAngel so you can make it whenever color you like 18:20 sfan5 we don't need textureability for that 18:20 EvergreenTree RealBadAngel: That looks great! 18:20 RealBadAngel yes, since its a mesh 18:20 EvergreenTree I like the hologram sort of feel to it 18:20 EvergreenTree it being texturable is great too 18:20 EvergreenTree minecraft doesn't have that option afaik 18:20 PenguinDad RealBadAngel: That looks really nice 18:21 Jordach so i heard you like depth sorting 18:21 Jordach got the most winning bug of them all 18:21 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/58JzAiUhTDJX.png 18:22 PenguinDad wut 18:22 Jordach look at that 18:22 Jordach you're having x-ray vision through another object 18:23 VanessaE Jordach: how the hell did you do THAT ? 18:23 Jordach VanessaE, those japaenese walls 18:23 PenguinDad How the hell is this even possible? 18:23 * aldobr cant understand the image 18:23 Jordach if they are the same material, it'll do that, but mid covering top and bottom won't showq 18:23 VanessaE Jordach: yeah I got that, but the object that's sticking out I meant 18:23 Jordach VanessaE, VE-C 18:23 VanessaE what is that, a dropped item or something? 18:23 Jordach now 18:23 Jordach VanessaE, those are nodes 18:25 VanessaE I know they're nodes :P 18:25 VanessaE sfan5: dude, you're making me dizzy 18:26 sfan5 :D 18:26 * ElectronLibre understand these are japanese walls, but not the image O_O 18:26 sfan5 listening to electronic music right now 18:26 OldCoder ElectronLibre, nice nick 18:26 VanessaE Jordach: what's a bug? 18:27 jp_ Jordach, you haven't explained how you did that... 18:27 ElectronLibre Thank you OldCoder. 18:27 Jordach VanessaE, transparent materials do a half z-fighting 18:27 VanessaE Jordach: old bug. turn on shaders, it helps. 18:28 VanessaE there's no Z-sorting in minetest that works worth a damn 18:28 VanessaE shaders help that somewhat. 18:28 aldobr inst zbuffer enough to prevent that ? (in the videocard) 18:29 Jordach VanessaE, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/BKSxPu8lAswc.png 18:29 VanessaE oh funky 18:29 Jordach so we have technical camoflauge 18:30 VanessaE that doesn't happen on my bocx 18:30 VanessaE box 18:30 VanessaE for me, the walls are opaque because I am not using shaders 18:30 Jordach VanessaE, shaders are off here 18:30 VanessaE must be a driver-specific thing then 18:30 Jordach (build dated 2014 - sept 03) 18:30 sfan5 shaders on here 18:30 sfan5 build at those commits that are in sfan5/minetest on GH 18:30 sfan5 screenie uploading 18:31 sfan5 VanessaE: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ZXnlzL7GfbTo.png 18:31 VanessaE wait, strike that 18:31 VanessaE my shaders were ON 18:31 VanessaE but the walls were still opaque 18:31 sfan5 it only happens for about 1 second 18:31 VanessaE very strange 18:31 sfan5 when you move it's gone 18:31 sfan5 very hard to reproduce 18:31 lemonlake_ tomaw, wtf? 18:32 lemonlake_ ó.ó 18:32 sfan5 lemonlake_: not tomaws fault 18:32 Vazon i got that as well 18:32 lemonlake_ oh it was a freenode notice 18:32 sfan5 oh wait 18:32 sfan5 a new notice 18:32 sfan5 why do I never get them? 18:32 VanessaE ah, there's translucent here, off and on 18:32 lemonlake_ because you're camp 18:32 ElectronLibre Already done. 18:33 VanessaE already did my password. 18:34 lemonlake_ why do we need to update our passes? 18:34 jp_ these white papers are more opaque normally, but not fully opaque 18:34 luizrpgluiz hi 18:34 ElectronLibre Hi. 18:35 sfan5 -18fnalerts/22+#fnalerts- notice from 11tomaw seen by 1119 connections: 11[Global Notice] Earlier today the freenode infra team noticed an anomaly on a single IRC server. We have identified that this was indicative of the server being compromised by an unknown third party. We immediately started an investigation to map the extent of the problem and located similar issues with several other machines and have taken those offline. For now, we 18:35 sfan5 recommend that every change their NickServ password as a precaution. 18:35 sfan5 ^ lemonlake_ 18:35 lemonlake_ 'by 19 connections' ? 18:35 sfan5 just ignore that 18:35 iqualfragile its kinda sad how they have to tell people how to change passwords 18:35 lemonlake_ yep 18:35 aldobr very ergonomic color for the topic 18:36 aldobr ah its not a topic 18:36 lemonlake_ lol 18:36 lemonlake_ but it'd be a good colour, yes 18:38 PenguinDad 05<3 that color 18:38 Jordach AH MY EYES 18:38 Jordach cyan on white 18:38 sfan5 !wiki Water 18:38 MinetestBot "Water is an infinite 02liquid block that can only placed by 02player by using a 02bucket (or in 02creative mode)." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Water 18:38 sfan5 ^ PenguinDad: colors 18:39 PenguinDad 05<3 these colors 18:39 VanessaE blue on black! AH MY EYES! 18:39 VanessaE :P 18:39 VanessaE white background for IRC, indeed. heretic. 18:39 VanessaE :) 18:40 Jordach i can't be bothered to fix it 18:40 Jordach ...or just patch windows' theme engine 18:40 Jordach and holy shit 18:40 PenguinDad AH red MY on EYES! black! 18:40 Jordach firefox just got a new connection reset look 18:41 Jordach mmmmm Microsoft design https://cdn.mediacru.sh/VIMvlMS0iZpJ.png 18:41 Jordach you can almost taste the nonfree design 18:41 Vazon is it possible to just rotate nodeboxes and not textures ??? it would be so much better with moreblocks and stairs becuase in spots you get texture rotation problems with builds 18:41 VanessaE Vazon: no. 18:42 PenguinDad Dat error page 18:42 Vazon dang..... 18:43 ElectronLibre Jordach : It's since the last update, very ugly... It's like that for every about:neterror.. 18:44 ElectronLibre Firefox looks like Chromium now O_o. 18:44 iqualfragile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vRdudlgxSU 18:44 * Jordach watches his system change design 18:45 sfan5 !title 18:45 MinetestBot sfan5: Spider Tarantula shedding skin - YouTube 18:45 iqualfragile :D 18:46 sfan5 VanessaE: how about even more colors? 19<MinetestBot> 02[Git] 04sfan5 -> 03sfan5/minetestbot-modules: More improvements to the wiki module... 138f62db4 http://git.io/sKZngA (152014-09-13T20:43:38+02:00) 18:46 VanessaE oh my 18:46 jp_ iqualfragile : just horrible 18:46 PenguinDad sfan5: looks nice imo 18:47 sfan5 ikr 18:48 OldCoder ANNOUNCE: For those using my worlds, they will probably go down Sunday for a few days. This is related to the final leg of a server move. My server is now in Dallas, Texas and the final cables need to be hooked up. 18:49 jp_ np, OldCoder. You can even close NYC, not much frequented. 18:49 OldCoder jp_, why would I shut down a work of art? 18:49 * OldCoder declines to do so and requests a little help in turning it into a museum 18:50 jp_ OldCoder : I have no time to manage this world for players. Doesn't really a matter if they only just to visit. 18:51 jp_ only have* 18:51 OldCoder I will not ask you to manage; that is the point 18:51 OldCoder I expected this to begin with 18:51 OldCoder You were the one who wished to try to make it playable. I feel that it will do well as a museum. 18:51 jp_ ok, why not so 18:51 OldCoder Perhaps a few final notes on the world after my server is set up again 18:52 OldCoder You can manage the time for that 18:52 jp_ but there is a very small percentage of players who like the museums of cubes ;) 18:53 * twoelk is often on server hopping tour 18:53 OldCoder Am I to be concerned by this? Shall I let a world die? 18:53 OldCoder Pripyat and New York City will live on 18:54 jp_ only your choice, not mine ;) 18:54 twoelk Pripyat is up again? 18:54 OldCoder And your point is? Simply speak with me casually regarding the creation. 18:54 OldCoder twoelk, No; it's been waiting for a server move 18:54 OldCoder 20 worlds will go up 18:54 OldCoder Or at least a dozen 18:55 twoelk I sort of missed the atmosphere of that one 18:56 OldCoder Pripyat is good 18:56 OldCoder A dead city will continue 18:57 jp_ my point is that 99% of the newcomers at NYC stays around 100 nodes perimeter, I don't see what's useful to keep NYC from this observation. But feel free to keep it if you prefer. 18:57 OldCoder 100 nodes perimeter 18:57 jp_ from spawn 18:57 OldCoder Does this include the key buildings? 18:58 twoelk actually with more interest from mc people to move to mt I think both Pripyat and NYC are important showcases on how to move content over to mt 18:58 OldCoder I agree 18:58 OldCoder I request nothing but documentation from the creators 18:58 OldCoder Or, rather, adaptors 18:58 OldCoder adapters? 18:58 jp_ the key buildings ? each building deserves a visit as much as the buildings near spawn 18:58 OldCoder jp_, then I will work on a catalog 18:58 T4im i visited nyc a couple of days ago.. found a lot of bones everywhere.. eventually started to harm myself from falling damage while exploring.. was very impressed, but since theres nothing to heal, i decided to leave again, before becoming one of these many permanent bones laying around 18:59 OldCoder As I believe we discussed before 18:59 OldCoder Heh 18:59 OldCoder T4im, thank you for input 18:59 jp_ the catalag is already did, OldCoder. See on my official NYC topic 18:59 OldCoder Yes 18:59 OldCoder I will feature it and others on new sites 18:59 OldCoder These worlds *are* good examples 19:00 OldCoder Related to mood as well as to technical issues 19:00 twoelk no food in NYC? That sounds strange ;-P 19:01 OldCoder We shall add it, then 19:01 OldCoder Bagels and pastrami 19:01 VanessaE no lox and cream cheese?! 19:02 OldCoder Oh, of course 19:02 twoelk wasn't there some burger mod somewhere? 19:02 Krock how about hotdogs? 19:02 OldCoder There shall be lox for the players of blocks 19:02 VanessaE kaeza: Sabretts or Nathans? 19:02 OldCoder hotdogs shall bark 19:02 twoelk loxblocks? 19:02 OldCoder Enough cream cheese to make you sneeze 19:02 Krock hot dogs don't bark anymore 19:02 OldCoder Yes! 19:02 OldCoder Heh 19:02 OldCoder loxblocks mod is needed 19:02 VanessaE Krock: ^^^ 19:02 OldCoder NYC style food 19:03 Krock VanessaE, ailien style 19:03 VanessaE tab complete FAIL 19:03 OldCoder Alien Style will work for Moontest :P 19:03 Krock true. 19:03 OldCoder Where is that guy, anyway? He was going to put Moontest on my server 19:03 VanessaE duno 19:03 VanessaE +n 19:03 Amaz OldCoder, I saw him yesterday. 19:04 Amaz Would you like his emi 19:04 PenguinDad And we need kitten like for meowtest :D 19:04 Amaz *email? 19:04 OldCoder Yes 19:04 OldCoder To both 19:04 Amaz Okay. 19:04 OldCoder Actually 19:04 OldCoder No time to email today 19:04 Amaz Okay. 19:04 OldCoder Tell him to see me if he wishes a world 19:04 Amaz Will do. 19:04 * OldCoder likes creative stuff 19:05 * Krock remebers the IKEA Bookbook 19:05 Krock *remembers 19:05 OldCoder Bookbook?\ 19:05 Krock OldCoder, there sohuld be a YT video about it 19:05 Sokomine meowtest mostly needs rollback capabiltiy 19:05 Sokomine hi :-) 19:05 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOXQo7nURs0 19:05 T4im hi Sokomine \o/ 19:05 Krock !title 19:05 MinetestBot Krock: Experience the power of a bookbook™ - YouTube 19:05 OldCoder It's for real? 19:05 OldCoder Sokomine, hello 19:06 Sokomine hi oldcoder 19:06 twoelk hi 19:06 Sokomine hi twoelk 19:06 Sokomine i've mostly automaticly generated villages in local worlds lately or digged mindlessly somewhere :-) 19:07 twoelk Sokomine the mindless minetest test digger? 19:08 * Sokomine nods and experimentally diggs down 19:08 twoelk hm, mindlessly test mining in minetest 19:08 * Sokomine complains about not enough diamonds and mese found 19:09 * Krock gives Sokomine /giveme 19:09 * PenguinDad wants /pulverizeinv 19:10 * Sokomine gives penguindad unified_inventory 19:10 OldCoder There should be /lox as well 19:10 twoelk lost some full slots of iron, mese, gold and other goodies on DLK in lava yesterday 19:10 OldCoder and /kittens 19:10 Sokomine twoelk: sounds bad 19:10 Sokomine oldcoder: just put a bottle of milk on the channel, wait for some kittens to show up, and then grab them :-) 19:10 OldCoder Very well 19:11 twoelk not only kittens like milk ;-P 19:11 PenguinDad Sokomine: that doesn't work in uncreative mode 19:11 Calinou uncreative heh 19:12 Sokomine uncreative...hm :) 19:12 twoelk since when is survival uncreative? 19:12 VanessaE survival "uncreative"?? D: 19:13 Krock un-uncreative creative mode 19:13 PenguinDad since when is creative mode disabled survival? 19:13 Sokomine if you're bothered with survival, there's probably no spare time for art i guess :-) 19:13 Sokomine perhaps that's why there are so many ugly boxes as "houses" everywhere 19:13 twoelk ah but the art of survival may be creative 19:14 Sokomine it might require a lot of creativity to survive on that strange server called "rl", yes :-) 19:14 T4im maybe if cobble roofing and cobble walls would collapse on people, they would become more creative 19:14 T4im :P 19:14 Krock cobble roofs can look nice 19:15 T4im yes.. what i actually meant was cooble ceilings, i suppose :p 19:16 * twoelk knows somebody who did not understand the idea behind essential load bearing walls in real life. 19:16 Sokomine hmm. if static comes into play, i'm afraid most great buildings would collapse 19:16 Sokomine while it might not make much diffrence for those...huts...weather they have a roof or not 19:17 twoelk hopefully Sokomine is not referring to real life 19:18 T4im latly i saw some building that was lacking roof and walls alltogehter.. just a a cobble fundament and a homedecore toilette.. guess someone got his priorities straight 19:19 Krock with a toilet, the house is almost completed 19:19 twoelk a throne with a view, needs an attitude to sit there comfortably 19:21 twoelk when I build toilets are sort of the last thing I squeeze in, maybe I should start with the important room 19:21 T4im maybe the player was expecting further needs besides health, air and hunger in the gameplay *shrug* 19:22 twoelk cool - use a toilet or explode 19:23 twoelk we need other bones to document that 19:27 aldobr i need help testing my mod 19:28 aldobr can anybody load it into a internet accessible server ? 19:28 Calinou which mod? link? 19:28 T4im gotta share this company name xD https://prod.ceidg.gov.pl/CEIDG/ceidg.public.ui/SearchDetails.aspx?Id=e82735cd-bc2b-4ac0-8bac-a1dc54d8c013 19:29 aldobr https://www.dropbox.com/s/im6yjtrc2jku380/mint.rar?dl=0 19:30 Sokomine what does your mod do, aldobr? i don't have a server. just curious 19:32 PenguinDad > rar 19:34 aldobr money minting and bank functions 19:34 aldobr it allows minting coin from gold ingots 19:34 aldobr it adds two automatic commerce machines 19:34 aldobr and two bank transaction machines to put and draw money from the bank 19:34 aldobr plus it now has a bank transfer schedule system for recurrent payments 19:35 aldobr https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4111&p=57541#p57541 19:35 aldobr i tested it single player 19:35 aldobr but to test transfers i need a real server with monre than one player 19:36 aldobr you can like program the payment of a rental or something similar, by programming a bank transfer transaction 19:37 aldobr but i need at least two players to have at least two accounts 19:37 aldobr hmmm 19:37 aldobr forget it 19:37 aldobr i can transfer to myself :P 19:37 Krock aldobr, should I start a testing server? 19:37 Calinou https://github.com/calmh/clonehub 19:37 Calinou may be of some use to people here 19:37 aldobr nope, i will test it here 19:38 Krock k 19:38 Krock aldobr, I think the people would be happy about a github repo 19:39 aldobr i dont know how to use git 19:39 aldobr :P 19:39 Sokomine understandable. such things can best be tested on a real server 19:40 Krock aldobr, it's easy after you got a GUI for it 19:40 * PenguinDad doesn't like git guis 19:40 * ElectronLibre has to wait one hour to download a 10min mp4 video... o.o 19:40 * Amaz hates git guis 19:40 * Krock loves git guis 19:41 Calinou http://gitorious.org/ 19:41 Amaz Git command line FTW! 19:41 Krock I still wouldn't understand git if I wouldn't use TortoiseGit.. 19:41 * ElectronLibre prefers console commands but don't hates git guis 19:41 PenguinDad <3 Git cli 19:41 Calinou TortoiseGit uses a lot of SVN paradigms 19:41 Calinou because it's based on TortoiseSVN pretty much 19:41 * Krock steals an 's' from ElectronLibre 19:41 Calinou there's at least 5 Tortoise* software 19:42 Krock Calinou, bad, good or just fact? 19:42 PenguinDad Is there TortoiseTortoise? 19:42 Krock TortoisePeriod. 19:42 Calinou Krock, can be bad sometimes 19:42 Calinou try using the GIT CLI someday 19:43 Calinou it's available if you have TortoiseGIT, as you have http://msysgit.github.io/ already 19:43 * ElectronLibre doesn't understand why Krock stole him a "s". 19:43 ElectronLibre Ho, i see. 19:43 Krock * ElectronLibre prefers console commands but don't hate04,05s 19:44 Jordach Calinou, convert to the CLI and it's like mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 19:44 ElectronLibre *but doesn't hate Gui no? Or I've just to put one third-person's "S" in a sentence? 19:44 Krock Calinou, possibly I'll use that in 5 years when I know all of those commands :3 19:45 PenguinDad Krock: you're slow at learning :p 19:45 Krock ElectronLibre, I also could move an 's' and add an 'e' instead of removing an 's' 19:45 Krock PenguinDad, that happens when I just press buttons 19:45 ElectronLibre Ok, I see. Thank you for correcting me :). 19:45 Krock np. 19:46 joseph_ It works great now. Thanks for help. 19:46 * Krock 00,01got a 01,01#grammarnazi 00,01flag 19:46 ElectronLibre Yes, I saw were was the error. My english is not very good... 19:46 PenguinDad Kill it with fire! 19:46 Krock 04,07Fire fire fire 19:47 ElectronLibre Witch Hunt is open. 19:47 * ElectronLibre flee at Salem. 19:48 PenguinDad Krock: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/759/339/946.jpg 19:48 Krock +1 19:48 ElectronLibre *flees... I prefer stop writing to do less errors.. 19:49 Krock PenguinDad, is that the source of "This is a ..... . It ... .."? 19:49 Krock eh. hard understandble 19:50 PenguinDad Krock: kinda 19:50 Krock k 19:51 Krock !doge 19:51 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000053 BTC 19:51 PenguinDad !doge 19:51 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000053 BTC 19:51 Krock it didn't change. 19:52 PenguinDad It didn't change. 19:52 Krock but this did. caps. 19:52 ElectronLibre What's the "DOGE"? 19:52 Calinou I've never used a GIT GUI, really 19:53 Krock ElectronLibre, check it out:!doge 19:53 ElectronLibre !doge 19:53 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/QIqDXZw.gif 19:54 ElectronLibre What the hell is that? A random-choosed image on imgur? 19:54 Krock yes, doge. 19:54 Krock https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/shortutils.py 19:55 PenguinDad It's the egod! 19:56 ElectronLibre O_o 19:56 PenguinDad !rev egod! 19:56 MinetestBot !doge 19:56 ElectronLibre !rev .ees I .kO 19:56 MinetestBot Ok. I see. 19:57 ElectronLibre I really love these bots :D 19:58 Krock Krock: !doge 19:58 Krock https://pp.vk.me/c607929/v607929263/624e/K6NMxz0Cj7U.jpg 19:59 ElectronLibre O_o 19:59 PenguinDad V frr jung lbh qvq gurer. 19:59 sfan5 !doge 19:59 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000054 BTC 19:59 sfan5 aw 19:59 sfan5 !doge 19:59 MinetestBot http://25.media.tumblr.com/5b1de230c236cbc6310ae000e1a5cdc2/tumblr_mu7uxmD9i31rdj00zo1_500.jpg 19:59 Krock http://windoge.com/ 19:59 ElectronLibre O_O 19:59 sfan5 https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/shortutils.py#L81 20:00 Krock sfan5, your today's task. 20:00 ElectronLibre Who the hell is this dog? O_O 20:01 e1z0 lol 20:01 sfan5 ElectronLibre: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=doge&defid=7315305 20:01 aldobr any mailbox mod around ? 20:01 Krock aldobr, many. 20:01 aldobr i have a lua doubt. how to expose my mod functionality to other mods ? 20:02 Krock aldobr, http://nimg.pf-control.de/MTstuff/modSearch.php?st=0&at=0&q=mail 20:02 aldobr i have the money transfer system in place, can other mods add events to my system ? 20:02 jin_xi anticheat gives a fine if you move too fast 20:02 aldobr like, a node protection mod that automatically prograns rentals ? 20:02 ElectronLibre Ok... Doge is a dog... I see... 20:02 * ElectronLibre goes to a mental hospital :x 20:03 sfan5 !cat 20:03 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/fVK8nca.jpg 20:03 sfan5 ^ ElectronLibre 20:04 ElectronLibre Two solutions : 1- All the internet is become crazy, including me 2- I'm the only people who can understand the interest of cute cats pictures °_°.. 20:05 Krock meow? 20:06 * ElectronLibre meows at Krock 20:06 sfan5 ElectronLibre: do !cat, there are more 20:06 ElectronLibre !cat 20:06 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/ERebecg.jpg 20:07 ElectronLibre Oook... 20:07 Krock ElectronLibre, http://data8.lustich.de/bilder/l/30509-meow-so-ernst.jpg 20:07 PenguinDad Krock: http://global3.memecdn.com/a-wild-doge-appeared_o_2838387.jpg :D 20:08 ElectronLibre Ah!! The joker-cat!! 20:08 Krock PenguinDad, and 8-bit sounds in background.. 20:08 Krock http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/167/2/f/meow_i_m_a_cow_by_trollpeco-d69bvj5.jpg 20:09 Krock ^ PenguinDad 20:09 luizrpgluiz anyone have any mod worlds generator? 20:09 Krock mapgen? 20:09 ElectronLibre Nyan fish 0_0 20:09 luizrpgluiz yes 20:10 Krock luizrpgluiz, it starts with ya and ends with pee 20:10 luizrpgluiz pee??? 20:10 Krock *ppy 20:10 ElectronLibre yapee. 20:11 PenguinDad eee​w 20:11 Krock also, see here: http://nimg.pf-control.de/MTstuff/modSearch.php?q=mapgen 20 results 20:11 Krock ^ luizrpgluiz 20:11 Krock john_minetest, I don't get it. 20:11 Krock only cookies make those sounds 20:12 Krock I see. Grandma is gonna bake some fish 20:12 Krock 0.3 per second 20:13 Krock not a fishy clicker. that's fishy. a fish clicker is better 20:14 Krock fishing 20:18 aldobr well if i keep adding thing to that mod, servers will need dedicated economist moderators :P 20:18 aldobr *things 20:19 * Krock likes simple money and shops 20:20 Krock sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/ZSrIFMC.gif 20:25 * twoelk is of to attempt to retrieve the valuable bones of his former self on the barren plains of the just-test server 20:34 Megaf Hi all, with this new minetest_game I can no longer plant wheat and cotton seeds 20:34 ElectronLibre Did you try on a world generated in 0.4.10? 20:35 Megaf no... 20:35 ElectronLibre I've got the same problem on an aera generated in 0.4.9 and previous, but in 0.4.10 it works perfectly. I don't kown why... I just hope every servers won't not need to change their map. 20:37 Megaf I just shuted it down 20:37 ElectronLibre I throught it was the add of the heat and the humidity in the node metadata.. When farming can't found them in a 0.4.9-generated aera, it can't put seeds. 20:37 Megaf I got rid of this new minetest_game, I hate it 20:37 Megaf Im back to my custom game 20:37 ElectronLibre Technicaly... It's NeXT game... 20:38 Megaf !server Megaf 20:38 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 1280ms 20:38 Megaf john_minetest: were you online? 20:39 ElectronLibre It's because of that there is TNT mod (a big mistake for building servers...). 20:39 Megaf because you asked about it a second after I shuted it down 20:39 Megaf ElectronLibre: I removed it 20:39 ElectronLibre Good. 20:39 Megaf ElectronLibre: I always disable things like screwdriver, fire, buckets and tnt 20:39 ElectronLibre TNT isn't stable, I still destroyed buildings with it because of an entify bugs... 20:40 Megaf ElectronLibre: that thing makes me mad with minetest 20:40 Megaf they release quite unstable stuff 20:40 Megaf theres no one in charge of decisions or anything 20:40 Megaf its not stable at all 20:40 ElectronLibre *entity Buckets and Screwdriver could be useful, but if you want :). Whe should choose what mods we want to enable even in the game itself. 20:41 proller in freeminer now wet weather extinguishes fires ;) 20:42 Jordach SHUT THE FUCK UP 20:42 Jordach 0% in this channel cares 20:43 Megaf why isnt proller banned already? 20:45 proller Jordach, you looks raped 20:45 PenguinDad Because Tree 8) 20:46 Megaf !server Megaf 20:46 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 4/9, 2/4 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 954ms 20:46 Jordach proller, tl;dr i can beat C level features 20:46 shadowzone Hi Jordach. 20:48 proller Jordach, but its not c level 21:00 jordan4ibanez How do I update a formspec? 21:01 jordan4ibanez So there's a lot less lag 21:01 ElectronLibre Dig the node --> place the node. The new formspec is in it :). 21:03 jordan4ibanez lol update_map() every time someone places or takes or a new formspec is created 21:08 * Jordach grabs a copy of Debian 21:10 shadowzone o.O 21:10 ElectronLibre What? 21:21 * ElectronLibre thinks that when his compiling of minetest fails... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Fv7Hqy1Vo 21:24 ElectronLibre Everybody is lefting the chan? 21:24 ElectronLibre Bye john. 21:29 Megaf [22:08:41] -*- Jordach grabs a copy of Debian 21:30 Megaf Jordach: well done, count on me for any help 21:30 Jordach and that;s if my APU likes the kernel 21:30 Jordach it bitches with very recent X11 updates and fights fgrlx greatly (the one built in) 21:31 Jordach until I switch to a proper GPU i'm stuck 21:31 Megaf Ok, I think you will have to use the driver from AMD 21:31 Megaf before proceding to install them first install build-essential and dkms 21:33 Megaf [22:31:16] Ok, I think you will have to use the driver from AMD 21:33 Megaf [22:31:56] before proceding to install them first install build-essential and dkms 21:34 Megaf Jordach_: also install firmware-linux-nonfree and firmware-linux-free 21:34 Jordach_ Megaf, latest Ubuntu grants black screens in seconds 21:34 Megaf so again, firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-linux-free build-essential dkms 21:35 Megaf with those 4 packages installed you are good to go to get the Catalyst driver from AMDs website 21:35 Megaf Jordach_: Yep, lots of problems with Ubuntu 21:35 Jordach_ Megaf, i had to use 13.10 because that ran fine 21:35 Jordach_ installed driver + non-free with dist-upg = dead 21:41 selah o.O 21:41 selah What just happen? 21:43 TheShadowZone12 Can you kick shadowzone? 21:43 Jordach bloody ghosts 21:44 hisforever how do I Make the grow Lights over Guardens? 21:46 hisforever how do I Make the grow Lights over Guardens? 21:46 ElectronLibre Ho no, a netsplit... 21:47 shadowzone I just *.net *.split. 21:47 ElectronLibre The Guardens? Don't you mean the gardens? 21:47 PenguinDad Guardians? 21:48 hisforever yes Gardens sorry for typo 21:48 ElectronLibre To grow light... add some torches. 21:48 ElectronLibre If you meant "add" light. 21:49 hisforever ok ty but an admin put lights over my guarden for me and I just was woundering what shape they 21:50 hisforever were 21:50 ElectronLibre Ok :). 21:54 lemonlake_ would anyone know why luaentity screws me over? 21:54 lemonlake_ it errors on line 329 or something with add entity 21:54 lemonlake_ no details 21:55 ElectronLibre °_° 21:55 ElectronLibre Comment the line, or see in debut.txt. 21:55 lemonlake_ its a vital line 21:55 lemonlake_ if i comment it nothing will work at all 21:55 jordan4ibanez sfan5: how do you update a block? 21:55 lemonlake_ plus its not even my code 21:55 lemonlake_ idk who wrote it 21:56 lemonlake_ probably nore or something 21:56 sfan5 jordan4ibanez: update? 21:56 ElectronLibre Can you read in debug.txt what is the exact error or you've already done this? 21:56 lemonlake_ that's it 21:57 lemonlake_ it occurs when i throw an item onto my conveyor belts 21:57 lemonlake_ in other words, on entity creation 21:57 jordan4ibanez Yes, like the voxel manipulator updates a chunk, only with a single block 21:58 lemonlake_ https://bitbucket.org/LemonLake/factory/src/master/belt.lua?at=master#cl-44 21:58 lemonlake_ from that line and below 22:02 * ElectronLibre is loading the page... 22:02 lemonlake_ apparently _add_entity is a nil value 22:02 lemonlake_ but i can confirm it does exist and it has worked before 22:02 lemonlake_ (this addentity call is inside luaentity.lua) 22:02 ElectronLibre add_entity or _add_entity? 22:03 lemonlake_ _add_entity 22:03 ElectronLibre Which line? 22:03 lemonlake_ the error is at #329 22:03 lemonlake_ in luaentity.lua 22:03 ElectronLibre builtin/luaentity.lua? 22:04 lemonlake_ nein, my own 22:04 lemonlake_ well, its not even mine but you get the point 22:04 ElectronLibre Ok. 22:04 ElectronLibre So belt/luaentity.lua? 22:04 lemonlake_ factory/luaentity.lua 22:04 ElectronLibre Yes, right. 22:05 ElectronLibre Can you send me a paste of the error? 22:06 jordan4ibanez I just don't understand why minetest can only hand 64k items 22:07 lemonlake_ well my debug.txt is hidden somewhere 22:07 lemonlake_ and i cant figure out how to copy from xterm 22:07 lemonlake_ so give me a minute 22:10 jordan4ibanez Like I get there's a hard int limit in c++, but you can convert int to str and then break up the numbers into individual ints and then create a calc function to individually add and cary over, then add to the final str to get a higher value than 64k 22:11 lemonlake_ http://0bin.net/paste/TpKRwcpFGt+9Z24X#9NnnkbIZrKO3FZt8kcMKyTuKPi0vsUoJPAW-B4lesLd 22:14 lemonlake_ wtf 22:14 lemonlake_ freenode 22:14 lemonlake_ y u shit pants 22:15 PenguinDad Poor pipes :'( 22:15 lemonlake_ is this by any chance related to the hacking? 22:15 lemonlake_ ElectronLibre: http://0bin.net/paste/TpKRwcpFGt+9Z24X#9NnnkbIZrKO3FZt8kcMKyTuKPi0vsUoJPAW-B4lesLd 22:15 ElectronLibre I'm back... got a crash.. 22:15 ElectronLibre Thank you. 22:16 ElectronLibre Ho no... not again this.. 22:16 ElectronLibre Was this mod written with minetest-0.4.10? 22:17 lemonlake_ yes 22:17 lemonlake_ latest sfan5 build 22:17 lemonlake_ no 22:17 lemonlake_ latest build, im on linux 22:17 * lemonlake_ slaps self 22:17 ElectronLibre Does it depends of Inventory_plus? 22:17 * sfan5 meows at lemonlake_ 22:17 lemonlake_ it doesnt depend on anything 22:18 ElectronLibre Ok. 22:18 lemonlake_ i dont even remember why im using luaentity 22:18 lemonlake_ its been ages 22:18 ElectronLibre I can't see what is the function "?" but I've already seen this kind of errors. Some functions, fields, become ?. 22:19 lemonlake_ this is most likely being called from the game itself 22:19 lemonlake_ and thus it doesn't have a stack trace 22:19 lemonlake_ my problem is something in entity creation is going wrong, causing luaentity to freak out 22:19 ElectronLibre It's the only time it's called? 22:19 lemonlake_ i wouldn't know 22:20 ElectronLibre Sfan5, is it the only time it's called in every files of the mods? 22:20 sfan5 don't ask me things I'm busy 22:20 lemonlake_ lol 22:20 ElectronLibre *mod Because I don't really want to modify the builtin. 22:20 ElectronLibre Ok sfan5. 22:23 PenguinDad ElectronLibre: The function is ? because it's an anonymous function 22:23 ElectronLibre Ok I see. 22:24 ElectronLibre lemonlake_, do you know where the function is defined? 22:26 lemonlake_ luaentity.lua 22:26 lemonlake_ look at it 22:26 lemonlake_ wait 22:27 lemonlake_ ahh 22:27 lemonlake_ the bug is a pipeworks conflict 22:27 ElectronLibre NetSplit. I can see it :). 22:30 PenguinDad Ceiling cat wanted the nets be split for ze lulz :D 22:30 ElectronLibre Did you try entitydef_default[_add_loaded]()...? 22:31 sfan5 !op sfan5 Jordach VanessaE_ ShadowNinja 22:31 Jordach meow? 22:31 sfan5 meow 22:31 sfan5 because netsplits 22:31 sfan5 like half of the freenode servers are down 22:32 ElectronLibre Ho no... 22:32 sfan5 not even joking 22:32 ElectronLibre Why do you become op? 22:32 sfan5 20 down/15 up 22:32 sfan5 why? 22:32 ElectronLibre Ho no... What the hell is going on?! 22:33 sfan5 in case the services split 22:33 sfan5 so someone can get op if needed 22:33 ElectronLibre Ok, I see. 22:33 lemonlake_ Is there a way I can make my mod load pipeworks first IF pipeworks exists? 22:33 ElectronLibre Depends. 22:33 ElectronLibre *dependencies 22:33 lemonlake_ Well yes, I know that 22:34 lemonlake_ Is there soft depend? 22:34 ElectronLibre Or, at the beginning, if minetest.getmodpath("pipeworks") ~= nil then return end 22:34 PenguinDad lemonlake_: just add "pipeworks?" to your depends.txt 22:34 lemonlake_ ah, i put the question mark wrong 22:34 lemonlake_ still acting up... 22:35 ElectronLibre Sfan5, how do you know the number of servers up and down? 22:35 sfan5 ElectronLibre: a monitoring thing called fnalerts 22:35 ElectronLibre An external program? 22:35 lemonlake_ no 22:35 sfan5 yes 22:35 lemonlake_ its a chan 22:35 sfan5 basically+ 22:35 ElectronLibre Ok. 22:35 sfan5 well yes 22:35 sfan5 lemonlake_ is correct 22:35 lemonlake_ #fnalerts 22:36 ElectronLibre It's free to join? 22:36 lemonlake_ yea 22:36 ElectronLibre Ok. 22:36 lemonlake_ they send you notices iirc 22:36 sfan5 ElectronLibre: you can only see the notices if you are a trusted user 22:36 sfan5 it takes a bit of time to get that status 22:36 ElectronLibre Trusted = registered? 22:37 lemonlake_ i see 22:38 ElectronLibre Ho my... FreeNode is about dying? 22:38 sfan5 no 22:40 ElectronLibre So we have just to wait...? 22:41 lemonlake_ pretty much 22:41 sfan5 wait for what? 22:41 lemonlake_ okay, it seems that when pipeworks is using it's own luaentity.lua, nothing works 22:41 blaaaaargh WTH freenode 22:42 lemonlake_ however what gets me is that they're precisely the same files 22:42 ElectronLibre For the servers restart. 22:46 PenguinDad lemonlake_: do you load the luaentity.lua file even when pipeworks was found? 22:52 lemonlake_ PenguinDad: nope 22:52 lemonlake_ http://0bin.net/paste/H91sbPIG0y4x8IIX#MczCA0pxTbq9SA2fCS4wGjfrOXtz0FiT57idsIDKhLb 22:54 PenguinDad lemonlake_: what happens when you comment out the dofile(minetest.get_modpath("pipeworks") .. "/luaentity.lua") 23:05 lemonlake_ PenguinDad: luaentity is a nil value if pipeworks is enabled 23:06 PenguinDad WTF? 23:06 * PenguinDad goes to sleep 23:06 lemonlake_ it's kinda expected 23:07 lemonlake_ because luaentity is not being defined anywhere 23:10 PenguinDad lemonlake_: pipeworks seems to load that file https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/blob/master/init.lua#L113 23:10 lemonlake_ it does 23:10 lemonlake_ oh wait... 23:10 lemonlake_ yeah that is weird 23:11 lemonlake_ because at entity creation all mods are loaded 23:30 lemonlake_ it happens again 23:31 * ElectronLibre is tired... He go to bed.. 23:31 ElectronLibre Bye everyone. 23:43 lemonlake_ anyone else got any ideas? 23:55 lemonlake_ all bugs fixed. woop woop 23:59 blaise is there a projected feature list for minetest-0.4.11 ?