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blaise |
!server midnight |
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MinetestBot |
blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/10, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 262ms |
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Megaf_ |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 6/9, 3/6 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 1461ms |
00:07 |
Megaf_ |
dat ping |
00:07 |
blaise |
!server ChiliP |
00:07 |
MinetestBot |
blaise: No results |
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blaise |
Megaf_: sfan5 says that number is completely not accurate |
00:09 |
blaise |
I'm still wondering what the second set of numbers is beind current/max clients |
00:09 |
Megaf_ |
first set is current max |
00:09 |
blaise |
I know |
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Megaf_ |
the other is avarage/top |
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blaise |
lol |
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blaise |
average/top users? |
00:09 |
Megaf_ |
yep |
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blaise |
for the day? or since the server was started ? |
00:10 |
Megaf_ |
since the server restarted |
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blaise |
ah.. |
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haiku |
hi all |
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haiku |
Megaf_: |
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Megaf_ |
haiku: server is back |
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guest3346 |
Hello |
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haiku |
Megaf_: yeah I see! very good! |
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Megaf_ |
a guest!! kill it with fire! |
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Megaf_ |
before it lay eggs! |
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guest3346 |
oh nooooo! I dont want to die |
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haiku |
Megaf_: but is too many users, kick someone so I can go in XD |
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Megaf_ |
already? but I just started it up |
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Megaf_ |
haiku: try again |
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haiku |
thank you Megaf_ I'm entering |
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Megaf_ |
cool |
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Megaf_ |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 7/21, 4/7 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 299ms |
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guest3346 |
I had some questions to ask, but my courage seems to have burned up |
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VanessaE |
go ahead and ask |
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guest3346 |
I installed the latest linux dev build of minetest early this morning ( love third person view by the way ) |
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guest3346 |
and Im wondering to put the mods I downloaded |
00:38 |
VanessaE |
put them in ~/.minetestmods |
00:38 |
VanessaE |
er |
00:38 |
VanessaE |
put them in ~/.minetest/mods |
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guest3346 |
I dont see a mod folder in my home directory |
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VanessaE |
damn keyboard. |
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VanessaE |
mkdir -p ~/.minetest/mods |
00:38 |
VanessaE |
put them there, enable them in the "Configure" menu for the world you want to use them with |
00:38 |
VanessaE |
make sure the directory names for the mods are correct |
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guest3346 |
ok, I just wasnt sure that is that location would work |
00:39 |
VanessaE |
e.g. if you see stuff like Somebody-modname-master it probably needs to be just 'modname', etc. |
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guest3346 |
ok, thank you |
00:40 |
VanessaE |
you're welcome :) |
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guest3346 |
:) |
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lemonfake |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an6UE1V7i-w |
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lemonfake |
very fancy |
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VanessaE |
lemonfake: NICE! |
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lemonfake |
it was way easier than i had predicted |
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lemonfake |
just a simple entity |
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lemonfake |
pipeworks helped me figure that out :p |
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lemonfake |
im off for the night, then |
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lemonfake |
see y'all soon |
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jordan4ibanez_ |
test |
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jordan4ibanez |
did freenode go down?? |
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Miner_48er |
net split |
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Megaf_ |
hm |
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aldobr |
hi |
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VanessaE |
hi |
02:07 |
diemartin |
hi |
02:09 |
jentron |
If the world is on fire... is there a way to put it out? |
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aldobr |
crumble the mountains to the sea |
02:11 |
jentron |
maybe by loading the fake_fire mod? |
02:11 |
aldobr |
you might try a node replacer mod |
02:12 |
aldobr |
abm the fire node and replace it to air in the abm body |
02:18 |
VanessaE |
jentron: the easiest way is to edit your minetest.conf, disable_fire = true |
02:18 |
VanessaE |
then let the fire go out on its own |
02:19 |
VanessaE |
(that setting will keep the fire from spreading or burning anything else down) |
02:19 |
VanessaE |
ignore what aldobr said :) |
02:19 |
aldobr |
¬¬ |
02:20 |
aldobr |
very pleasant |
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VanessaE |
I smiled :) |
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jentron |
Thanks VanessaE ... easier than searching for an abm mod |
02:20 |
VanessaE |
you were giving him instructions that, while accurate, were overcomplicated :) |
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aldobr |
nice excuse ! |
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aldobr |
:D |
02:22 |
aldobr |
iirc theres a mod called node replacer |
02:22 |
VanessaE |
that is intended to replace nodes in e.g. a floor or wall while building |
02:22 |
VanessaE |
when he turns off the fire, it'll go out on its own |
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diemartin |
I think he means `clean' mod <_< |
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diemartin |
still disable_fire is easier |
02:24 |
diemartin |
(or rm yourworld/map.{sqlite,leveldb} >_>) |
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diemartin |
also, freenode, pls stahp |
02:26 |
jentron |
What was the joke about the guy in a balloon who asks, as he floats by a guy on the ground, "Where am I" |
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jentron |
And the guy says, "You're in a balloon" |
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jentron |
and the balloonist says, "you must be a microsoft engineer because your answer was technically correct, but completely useless". |
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jentron |
:P |
02:29 |
* aldobr |
writes a note into his notebook : never try to help again |
02:33 |
jentron |
aldobr, I'm not trying to dog you out. I appreciate the help, really! |
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jentron |
I have a private server running the stampy playland world and my boy managed to light it on fire with TnT. :) |
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iio7 |
I am facing a problem with an invisible block with snow on top http://imagebin.org/319520, I can't figure out which mod (as I have used mods on the server) is causing this annoying problem. Anyone who can recognize what might be causing this? |
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iio7 |
The snow is just hanging in the air. |
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iio7 |
I have tried disabling one mod at a time to see if I could get "block unknown", but I must be missing something which doesn't seem to effect block, yet it does. |
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iio7 |
Is it possible to debug this somehow? |
05:07 |
Miner_48er |
do you have worldedit? |
05:07 |
iio7 |
no |
05:08 |
Miner_48er |
is it your server? |
05:08 |
iio7 |
yes |
05:08 |
Miner_48er |
dig the block and look at the end of the debug.txt |
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Joe___ |
hello |
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Joe___ |
I have a quick question. I have searched everywhere, and I can not find the answer to this question. How do you produce the black dye in a regular install? |
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Joe___ |
hi |
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Joe___ |
Is anyone actually here? |
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iio7 |
Joe___, I don't know much about crafting, but I recommend installing the Unified Inventory mod, it's kindda like CraftingGuide on Minecraft. |
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iio7 |
Miner_48er, digging the snow returns "default:snow". |
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Miner_48er |
ok that's the node |
05:26 |
iio7 |
The "invisible" block isn't a block, it's just empty. There is nothing to dig underneath the snow. |
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iio7 |
It's like the snow "hangs" in mid ear. |
05:27 |
iio7 |
ear -> air |
05:27 |
Miner_48er |
how old is this version of snow? |
05:27 |
iio7 |
What do you mean? |
05:28 |
Miner_48er |
which version do you have? |
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iio7 |
I don't have mod named "snow", I am running 0.4.10, compiled from latest source. |
05:33 |
Miner_48er |
ok that seems correct then to stack them |
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Miner_48er |
is that being produced by a generation issue? |
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iio7 |
I don't know. |
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iio7 |
Is there a way to get rid of "unknown blocks" when a mod has been removed? A way clean the world up? |
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iio7 |
"clearobjects" didn't work. Object clearing done, but still unknown blocks present. Another way? |
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iio7 |
Ethereal seems to be the mod causing the snow problem. |
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h9ine |
hey i installed minetest on arch using pacman and it opens but no texture packs show up. i ended up installing one, and seen the base texture pack was in fact there in /usr/share/minetest/textures -- now i am compiling from source hoping that will work. is this a common problem? is there another solution |
06:02 |
Miner_48er |
iio7 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2777 |
06:05 |
Miner_48er |
h9ine idk you could try posting on the forum if no one replies here forum.minetet.net |
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iio7 |
What are the difference between "biomeblend", "jungles" and "mudflow", can they all be enabled at the same time? |
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h9ine |
thanks miner_48er |
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h9ine |
im waiting for it to finish building and i think it will work :) |
06:11 |
Miner_48er |
iio7 idk try search for minetest ... should have a description of them |
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iio7 |
I did, only sparsome |
06:15 |
Miner_48er |
iio7 ask a dev when if one's online? |
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h9ine |
!ping |
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hisforever |
Whats the command to send privet messages? |
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hisforever |
to an admin |
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h9ine |
i just compiled from source, menu looks different but still no texture packs. |
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sfan5 |
hisforever: /msg <username> <message> should work |
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sfan5 |
h9ine: did you install minetest_game? |
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h9ine |
sfan5: yes and the texture files are present, just not in the menu at all |
06:50 |
Krock |
meow? |
06:50 |
sfan5 |
h9ine: did you put it into the games/ folder? |
06:50 |
h9ine |
! |
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hisforever |
how do I send privet messages? |
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h9ine |
/msg hisforever hey man |
06:54 |
hisforever |
thanks |
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h9ine |
how do i exit already opened private messages? thats what i want to know |
06:55 |
hisforever |
What piece of shingle are for the corners? |
06:56 |
Krock |
h9ine, there's no command for closing, just right click on the tab and press on "Close" |
06:56 |
hisforever |
the corners of my house look crappy |
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h9ine |
no its /wc i just figured it out |
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h9ine |
(im using irssi) |
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Krock |
wc aka toilet |
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hisforever |
this channel is great ty for all your help over the past few days |
06:59 |
h9ine |
i have moved minetest_game into the games/ dir and still shows with no texture packs. i notice in the debg log: 22:23:39: ERROR[main]: /home/user/.minetest/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png |
07:00 |
Krock |
h9ine, seems like https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png is missing |
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sfan5 |
h9ine: how did you install minetest? |
07:02 |
h9ine |
pacman -Sy minetest minetest-common |
07:03 |
h9ine |
then since that didnt work, i downloaded source and compiled it in my home directory ~/builds |
07:05 |
h9ine |
okay it works. im using the pacman Arch repo version of minetest, and i had to drop the texture pack in ~/.minetest/textures/ |
07:05 |
sfan5 |
why didn't that work? |
07:08 |
h9ine |
btw now that i wget that no_screenshot.png into the spot: the base texture still dont work |
07:09 |
sfan5 |
why did the pacman installation not work? |
07:09 |
h9ine |
it does, i just had to drop a texture pack in my home directory |
07:09 |
sfan5 |
so where's the problem now? |
07:11 |
h9ine |
its with the no_screenshot.png still. now its saying its not a real png |
07:11 |
h9ine |
im re dl the png |
07:12 |
sfan5 |
h9ine: wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/minetest/minetest/master/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png |
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sfan5 |
the other one was the html of the github page |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
07:17 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
07:17 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
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Krock |
sfan5! |
07:19 |
nman3600 |
MinetestBot! |
07:19 |
MinetestBot |
nman3600! |
07:19 |
nman3600 |
<3 MinetestBot |
07:19 |
MinetestBot |
<3 nman3600 |
07:20 |
nman3600 |
Hi MinetestBot |
07:20 |
MinetestBot |
Hello nman3600. |
07:20 |
nman3600 |
:D |
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hisforever |
sorry for being mad but how do I make stone brick? |
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Krock |
craft one with 4x brick |
07:43 |
Krock |
*stone |
07:44 |
hisforever |
understand but do I use the cobble stone? |
07:45 |
Krock |
burn cobble to stone |
07:54 |
Krock |
The server list needs a new look, showing up an icon on left side and title, owner, playrs on right |
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Krock |
omg no internet for 6 minutes, I almost died. |
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09:39 |
Krock |
/mbadjoke |
09:39 |
* sfan5 |
curls up to Krock's lap |
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* Krock |
still doesn't know what sfan5 means by that sentence |
09:40 |
PenguinDad |
/mbadjoke :< |
09:40 |
sfan5 |
did you try putting it into google translate? |
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Krock |
ah. meow-act |
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Krock |
I only translated the single words and it didn't make any sentence |
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Krock |
/ sense |
09:42 |
Krock |
" • Our newest member August" |
09:42 |
PenguinDad |
*September :P |
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* sfan5 |
meows at PenguinDad |
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* ElectronLibre |
is wondering himself if it's possible to add a translation command to MinetestBot. |
09:45 |
PenguinDad |
!tell EvergreenTree <3 https://soundcloud.com/excision/excision-shambhala-2014-mix |
09:45 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: yeah, sure, whatever |
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PenguinDad |
MinetestBot: why so negative? :D |
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ElectronLibre |
Can she really answer you? |
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ElectronLibre |
It could be cool. |
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twoelk |
join #minetest-de |
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twoelk |
fail :-) |
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* ElectronLibre |
give back the / key to twoelk. |
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PenguinDad |
twoelk: Congratulations! You failed! |
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PenguinDad |
s/s!/s,/ |
10:08 |
twoelk |
hm a public fail is a lot noisier |
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* PenguinDad |
hands twoelk some salsa cookies |
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twoelk |
hm salsa? I think I'll have some Ruebenmuss now or Wrouken, mh, I'm of to eat |
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jp_ |
\o twoelk |
10:20 |
twoelk |
njam mampf, hi |
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10:55 |
Krock |
Hay jmf |
10:58 |
ElectronLibre |
Hello john_minetest. |
10:58 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: John mods freeminer? :D |
10:59 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, that'd be jmfm |
10:59 |
Krock |
john misses (his) (pony) farm |
11:00 |
PenguinDad |
john meows frequently :D |
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Krock |
<3 |
11:00 |
Krock |
yes yes YES |
11:02 |
twoelk |
mhm breeding horses/ponies in minetest, that would be something |
11:03 |
* twoelk |
has built traditional stables in real life |
11:04 |
PenguinDad |
*pets john_minetest* |
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11:15 |
PenguinDad |
Adobe Encore was written by lolcats \o/ http://img.thedailywtf.com/images/14/q3/e129/Pic-8.png |
11:19 |
PenguinDad |
Tables can do so much more than CSS!!1! |
11:19 |
LemonLake |
Does anyone know the gravity constant for entities? |
11:19 |
LemonLake |
Specifically item entities |
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Krock2 |
. |
11:25 |
* PenguinDad |
greets Sir Krockery |
11:27 |
* ElectronLibre |
can see two Krocks, he is probably tired... |
11:27 |
PenguinDad |
ElectronLibre: you're drunk go home :p |
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11:34 |
ElectronLibre |
I've just drunk orange juice, it's true ^^'... |
11:40 |
Krock |
I found horalse game! https://github.com/SuperNascher/Minetest-Holarse-Modpack |
11:40 |
Krock |
* Holarse-Game |
11:41 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: I was faster than you :P |
11:41 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, omg noez |
11:42 |
Megaf_ |
Hi |
11:43 |
ElectronLibre |
Hi Megaf_. |
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12:03 |
Krock |
http://i.imgur.com/KxJ07r9.jpg |
12:05 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: Fix yer leaves |
12:05 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, accept the un-fancy trees |
12:06 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: since when are non-fancy leaves white? |
12:07 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, since alpha turns white |
12:07 |
PenguinDad |
eeew |
12:09 |
ElectronLibre |
Wow, white leaves, like on my screens. |
12:09 |
ElectronLibre |
And a nyan cat :D. |
12:12 |
Krock |
^^ |
12:13 |
Krock |
well, it's a poor NC because the tree destroyed it partwise |
12:19 |
ElectronLibre |
The head is still here, and some rainbows :). |
12:21 |
ElectronLibre |
It's always useful having a nyan cat. |
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12:22 |
* PenguinDad |
doesn't ping Kro​ck |
12:23 |
* Krock |
sees a square inside his name |
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12:23 |
Krock |
© |
12:24 |
Krock |
LOL |
12:24 |
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12:24 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: Congratulations, your unicode support is totally broken! |
12:24 |
Krock |
imgur failed to upload the image 3 times, now the message. |
12:24 |
Krock |
That0s a lot of images! Are you sure you're a human? |
12:24 |
Krock |
captcha... |
12:25 |
* PenguinDad |
isn't a human :( |
12:25 |
Krock |
the images is 2 times in my account now... |
12:25 |
Krock |
lol |
12:26 |
Krock |
http://i.imgur.com/1YnuhAl.jpg |
12:26 |
ElectronLibre |
Ho no, a ©opyright... |
12:27 |
* ElectronLibre |
isn't too... |
12:28 |
* RumiaGloop |
licks Krock |
12:28 |
* Krock |
unlicks Krock |
12:29 |
ElectronLibre |
Wow, what mapgen is it? |
12:29 |
Krock |
yappy. |
12:30 |
Krock |
i liek jpeg for screenshots. |
12:31 |
ElectronLibre |
An other cat? |
12:32 |
Krock |
hmm i found one 1 minute ago...closed minetest already :/ |
12:32 |
Krock |
(using dummy backend) |
12:32 |
PenguinDad |
eee​w jpeg |
12:33 |
Krock |
perlin noise is pseudorandom. |
12:34 |
LemonLake |
god i am dead for ideas |
12:35 |
Krock |
need a grave stone "Here lies 'ideas'" |
12:35 |
Krock |
? |
12:35 |
LemonLake |
yes please |
12:36 |
* Krock |
slaps LemonLake with a grave stone |
12:36 |
LemonLake |
ouxh |
12:37 |
LemonLake |
gonna completely redo my website template...again |
12:38 |
PenguinDad |
LemonLake: does this song inspire you? https://soundcloud.com/edm/snails-bawdy-rdm-edmcom-exclusive |
12:38 |
LemonLake |
already heard it |
12:38 |
LemonLake |
and it does not |
12:38 |
LemonLake |
to be honest it sounds a lot like knife party and im not into that sort of stuff |
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12:51 |
* RumiaGloop |
licks ElectronLibre |
12:51 |
* sfan5 |
meows at RumiaGloop |
12:51 |
RumiaGloop |
mew |
12:54 |
* ElectronLibre |
feed RumiaGloop and sfan5. |
12:56 |
* sfan5 |
meows |
12:56 |
ElectronLibre |
Do you want some milk? |
12:56 |
sfan5 |
no |
12:56 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok. |
13:00 |
* john_minetest |
gives sfan5 a <'(((-< |
13:00 |
* sfan5 |
ignores the fish |
13:00 |
* john_minetest |
pets sfan5 |
13:00 |
* sfan5 |
ignores the petting |
13:00 |
* jin_xi |
pulls out the laser pointer |
13:01 |
* sfan5 |
ignores the laser pointer |
13:01 |
* Amaz |
puts a mouse in front of sfan5 |
13:01 |
twoelk |
an ingnorable cat? |
13:01 |
* sfan5 |
ignores the mouse |
13:02 |
sfan5 |
"POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.10 (Windows/6.1-Service_Pack_1 x86_64)" |
13:02 |
sfan5 |
ew |
13:02 |
sfan5 |
someone is using windows as a server os |
13:02 |
ElectronLibre |
Ho no... |
13:03 |
twoelk |
isn't Krock doing so? |
13:03 |
Krock |
I do. yes. |
13:03 |
T4im |
hm.. is there a serverflag for 'does not run on an operating system', so users may skip it? |
13:03 |
Krock |
sfan5, that's my server |
13:03 |
Krock |
windows vista |
13:03 |
T4im |
ew |
13:04 |
twoelk |
T4im: ? |
13:04 |
twoelk |
what for? |
13:04 |
T4im |
twoelk: flags like 'this is a dedicated server'.. which is just as interesting |
13:05 |
T4im |
well i dont know abotu you.. but i dont want to spend time building something on a server thats gone the next minute because there was a bluescreen :P |
13:05 |
* twoelk |
doesn't like the skip it part |
13:06 |
twoelk |
T4im: study the uptime/age info |
13:06 |
T4im |
hehe |
13:06 |
T4im |
good point |
13:07 |
T4im |
is probably even more helpful |
13:09 |
T4im |
.. but not provided as it seems :/ |
13:10 |
twoelk |
If you rephrase it as: statistics about the OS's the servers run on. I would find it interesting :-) |
13:11 |
twoelk |
you where refering to this? http://servers.minetest.net/ |
13:12 |
T4im |
no the other one.. this one seems not to render due to a stray script tag |
13:12 |
twoelk |
? |
13:12 |
T4im |
as in </html><script... |
13:12 |
twoelk |
you have js turned of? |
13:13 |
T4im |
it's on |
13:13 |
T4im |
this is invalid html markup from what i see |
13:13 |
twoelk |
loads for me |
13:13 |
T4im |
what browser? |
13:14 |
twoelk |
firefox portable |
13:14 |
twoelk |
so this doesn't parse for you? <script src="list.js"> |
13:14 |
T4im |
indeed |
13:15 |
T4im |
not outside the html tags anyway |
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13:15 |
T4im |
still odd.. firefox 31 here.. wouldnt have guesed that ff differs so strongly between versions |
13:15 |
twoelk |
should not |
13:16 |
PenguinDad |
T4im: the page loads in iceweasel 31 |
13:16 |
T4im |
either way.. its invalid markup, so its an undefined scenario anyway |
13:16 |
T4im |
penguindad: non in mine :/ |
13:16 |
T4im |
not* |
13:17 |
twoelk |
am using 32.0.1 for some hours now, but it worked before |
13:20 |
twoelk |
hm maybe sfan5 should move the line: <script src="list.js"></script> into the <head></head> section? |
13:25 |
T4im |
hmm the stray script tag seems recoverable though invalid.. turns out i just don't load jquery locally due to google being blocked.. but yea.. the script tag still belongs at the end of hte body tag :P |
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shadowzone |
VanessaE, isis.inchra.net/#minetest just had a MAJOR join/leave flood. |
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13:27 |
shadowzone |
Or ShadowNinja, one of the operators on that channel. |
13:28 |
T4im |
netsplit? |
13:28 |
shadowzone |
No. |
13:28 |
shadowzone |
A join/leave flood. |
13:28 |
Hirato |
maybe it's isis :M |
13:28 |
shadowzone |
We have 31 people on then all the sudden we had 98 people/ |
13:28 |
shadowzone |
*. |
13:28 |
T4im |
well, are they generated names? like of a botnet? |
13:29 |
shadowzone |
Yes. |
13:29 |
T4im |
:/ |
13:29 |
shadowzone |
They were saying some VERY crude things. |
13:29 |
Jordach |
it seems they are the USERS FROM THIS CHANNEL but as a botnet |
13:29 |
shadowzone |
Jordach, +1. |
13:29 |
T4im |
O_o |
13:30 |
shadowzone |
*sfan5410NAH* gay/10 I just got that in a pm. |
13:30 |
shadowzone |
It i s sfan5's IP. |
13:30 |
shadowzone |
*is |
13:30 |
Jordach |
shadowzone, it isn't |
13:31 |
ElectronLibre |
Ho my... Hum, do you remember a flooder on #minetest who said this kind of things? |
13:31 |
Jordach |
ElectronLibre, it's markv |
13:31 |
* PenguinDad |
sighs |
13:31 |
ElectronLibre |
Yes... I've read the logs of August-2 and August-1... |
13:31 |
shadowzone |
Crap! |
13:32 |
ElectronLibre |
The only thing you can do is find a way to disconnect every bots and block him... I suppose... |
13:33 |
ElectronLibre |
But why the hell does he hate MineTest? |
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13:34 |
twoelk |
he hates nobody he is just playing with peoples nerves |
13:34 |
shadowzone |
Like mine/ |
13:34 |
Jordach |
and he logged in with his actual phone on Inchra |
13:34 |
shadowzone |
I'm about to lose it. |
13:35 |
PenguinDad |
ElectronLibre: It's Minetest not MineTest |
13:35 |
ElectronLibre |
Sorry, problem with my keyboard. |
13:35 |
shadowzone |
By the way DO NOT let Microsoft buy mojang. |
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13:36 |
PenguinDad |
shadowzone: sorry but we can't stop them |
13:36 |
shadowzone |
Me and a few other people have a speculation that they'll start going after Minetest. |
13:36 |
ElectronLibre |
That will probably kill MC... Nobody can buy Minetest. |
13:36 |
shadowzone |
True, But still. |
13:38 |
shadowzone |
Did you just have MarkV do something bad here too? |
13:38 |
PenguinDad |
Let's get this Witchhunt after voxel games started! :/ |
13:38 |
ElectronLibre |
But, if MC "dies", every players of MC will probably go to minetest, it will probably be terrible! |
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13:40 |
T4im |
hmm don't necessarily imply from their inability to develop software an inability to buy and develop/merge companies... |
13:41 |
T4im |
they might end up adding their xbox community onto it |
13:43 |
twoelk |
hehe, trying to have a look at inchranet took down all my irc connections |
13:44 |
ElectronLibre |
"Why is him so bad?" |
13:45 |
SylvieLorxu |
shadowzone: That's rather difficult seeing how Minecraft isn't even an original game |
13:46 |
shadowzone |
Nope. |
13:46 |
SylvieLorxu |
Worst case scenario they'll push Minetest into renaming themselves |
13:46 |
shadowzone |
Then I'll have to pull out Shadow|Dwarf. |
13:47 |
ElectronLibre |
Minecraft is inspired by Infiniminer and Minetest by Minecraft, Minecraft was just the most popular. |
13:49 |
T4im |
ms has made afaik some committments to stop sueing open source projects for now |
13:50 |
T4im |
so that shouldn't be an issue |
13:50 |
twoelk |
bah soccer can't sue basketball for using a ball |
13:50 |
T4im |
i usually would agree. but we are talking microsoft |
13:50 |
T4im |
they have a history of sueing without reason |
13:50 |
shadowzone |
Yep. |
13:50 |
twoelk |
oh they do have reasons |
13:50 |
twoelk |
just none that I like |
13:50 |
T4im |
simply because they can sue competition into bankrupcy, no matter the matter at hand... at least in the usa |
13:51 |
T4im |
thats how staroffice became openoffice |
13:51 |
T4im |
:) |
13:51 |
ElectronLibre |
They can't sue all the community, or any core-dev, or celeron55... |
13:52 |
twoelk |
haha ms and markv in the same corner: they do it just because they can |
13:54 |
* ElectronLibre |
thinks that markv could be Bill Gates xD |
13:55 |
shadowzone |
XD |
13:55 |
twoelk |
he might be bored |
13:55 |
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ElectronLibre |
What!? |
13:55 |
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13:55 |
twoelk |
splitter splatter |
13:55 |
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13:56 |
PenguinDad |
Splat split! |
13:56 |
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13:56 |
ElectronLibre |
What is going on? |
13:56 |
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ElectronLibre |
O.O |
14:03 |
ElectronLibre |
I throught it was an attack againt the chan.. |
14:04 |
PenguinDad |
ElectronLibre: that was just a netsplit |
14:04 |
ElectronLibre |
*against What is a netsplit? |
14:05 |
PenguinDad |
!g Netsplit |
14:05 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit |
14:05 |
PenguinDad |
^ ElectronLibre |
14:05 |
T4im |
irc is a network of several servers that are interconnected |
14:05 |
ElectronLibre |
Thank you. |
14:05 |
T4im |
sometimes the connection between servers goes down |
14:05 |
T4im |
or servers go down |
14:06 |
ElectronLibre |
Oh, nodes are disconnected, I see. |
14:07 |
T4im |
sometimes it can be an attack against the network though |
14:10 |
ElectronLibre |
I see... Nothing serious in this case I hope.. |
14:11 |
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14:22 |
SylvieLorxu |
It's probably just Freenode being Splitnode again |
14:26 |
ElectronLibre |
Again?? |
14:26 |
Amaz |
:/ |
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14:29 |
twoelk |
wow which side do I end up now? |
14:30 |
* twoelk |
is using kornbluth today |
14:30 |
* Amaz |
is aswell! |
14:31 |
Amaz |
*as well |
14:31 |
PenguinDad |
twoelk: on the same side as sendak is |
14:31 |
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14:34 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok, I see. |
14:35 |
PenguinDad |
Is that unknown third-party markv? |
14:35 |
SylvieLorxu |
Okay, in this case it seems a few Freenode got attacked |
14:35 |
twoelk |
ElectronLibre: oh dear, you may have been right after all :-( |
14:35 |
SylvieLorxu |
*Freenode servers |
14:35 |
SylvieLorxu |
And we apparently have to change our passwords |
14:35 |
SylvieLorxu |
Meh... |
14:35 |
ElectronLibre |
Can someone can give me the command to change our password please? |
14:36 |
twoelk |
this will wreck my password system :-/ |
14:36 |
Amaz |
/msg nickserv set password password |
14:36 |
ElectronLibre |
*Can someone Thank you. |
14:36 |
jin_xi |
/msg nickserv hunter2 hunter2 |
14:37 |
T4im |
alternativly you can use setpass |
14:37 |
T4im |
in case you forgot your current one :p |
14:37 |
ElectronLibre |
I perfectly remember it and it was changed :D. |
14:38 |
T4im |
and why would you say we need to change them? was there an announcement? |
14:39 |
ElectronLibre |
<tomaw> [...] For now, we recommend that every change their NickServ password as a precaution. |
14:39 |
twoelk |
oh doesn't show up in the logs? |
14:39 |
SylvieLorxu |
A lot of clients display that in the main server thing, quite unclear |
14:39 |
ElectronLibre |
I think global noticed are not registered in the logs. |
14:39 |
SylvieLorxu |
They should just sent this to every channel |
14:39 |
ElectronLibre |
Around 37500 channels. |
14:40 |
Amaz |
I think that it is a pm that shows up in whatever channel the user is currently viewing. |
14:40 |
SylvieLorxu |
Nope, it's sent server-wide |
14:40 |
SylvieLorxu |
So it belongs in the server buffer |
14:40 |
twoelk |
hm no message in minetest-de and minetest-dev it seems |
14:40 |
SylvieLorxu |
But some clients display it in the currently active channel |
14:40 |
Amaz |
I just got one in the channel I was in. |
14:41 |
ElectronLibre |
Probably it's just sent to every users in their text box. |
14:41 |
ElectronLibre |
That explain why there is only one, but everyone can read it. |
14:41 |
T4im |
well /notice is usually shown in place |
14:41 |
SylvieLorxu |
No, it was sent as a global notice, which is user and channel independant and, in most (but not all) clients is displayed in the server buffer |
14:41 |
Amaz |
Right. |
14:42 |
SylvieLorxu |
XChat is a notable exception that uses the current channel, AFAIK |
14:42 |
Amaz |
HexChat does as well. |
14:42 |
PenguinDad |
(Global) notices are always shown in the server buffer for me |
14:42 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok, I see. |
14:42 |
PenguinDad |
Amaz: HexChat is just an improved version of XChat |
14:43 |
twoelk |
define: server buffer |
14:43 |
T4im |
so.. what if that global notice was part of the attack? |
14:43 |
ElectronLibre |
Type !g server buffer? |
14:43 |
Amaz |
Yeah. |
14:43 |
Amaz |
A lot improved, imo |
14:43 |
SylvieLorxu |
twoelk: The entry in a client for the server, not for a specific channel |
14:43 |
SylvieLorxu |
(In the channel list) |
14:44 |
T4im |
like.. taking over a certain part of the network, sending you the notice, so you send your new and old password via set password to the attacker? ;) |
14:44 |
ElectronLibre |
We can just trust what the operators say... |
14:44 |
T4im |
you cant trust that the operator is the operator |
14:44 |
PenguinDad |
T4im: that would in work theory |
14:44 |
T4im |
though if you connect via tls you might decrease your risk considerably to that |
14:45 |
PenguinDad |
s/in work/work in/ |
14:45 |
T4im |
using setpass might be better here, as it at least makes sure you set the password via a different channel |
14:47 |
* T4im |
wonders if freenode at least requires their servers to TLS between them |
14:48 |
Amaz |
/msg nickserv set password newpasshere is the way they recommend in #freenode... |
14:48 |
fishyWET |
appears dickson.freenode.net was the one hit |
14:50 |
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14:53 |
VanessaE_ |
there, changed mine just in case. |
14:53 |
* ElectronLibre |
tried to connect to a minetest server and minetest crashed O_O. |
14:53 |
VanessaE_ |
(even though I allegedly use SASL, it doesn't always work right) |
14:54 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE_: set your client to require sasl |
14:54 |
sfan5 |
I forgot to change the password in the sasl module and <*sasl> Disabling network, we require authentication. |
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joseph_ |
hello |
14:55 |
VanessaE_ |
sfan5: sometimes it times-out on connect |
14:55 |
ElectronLibre |
Hello joseph_. |
14:55 |
shadowzone |
Changed mine. |
14:55 |
joseph_ |
Hi Electronlibre |
14:55 |
ElectronLibre |
Changed too. It's more secure. |
14:56 |
twoelk |
strangethingsahappening |
14:56 |
joseph_ |
How do you make charcoal & black dye? |
14:56 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: charcoal isn't an item |
14:56 |
VanessaE_ |
black dye is made from two dark grey dyes |
14:57 |
VanessaE_ |
(why??) |
14:57 |
VanessaE_ |
dark grey is made from cyan and orange I think |
14:57 |
ElectronLibre |
There is a lot of recipes for black dye. |
14:57 |
joseph_ |
I could find how to make black dye anywhere |
14:57 |
twoelk |
somegame has cook wood=charcoal iirc |
14:57 |
VanessaE_ |
sfan5: is there some reason black coal is not directly made from coal? |
14:57 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: black dye is made from two dark grey dyes |
14:57 |
sfan5 |
dunno |
14:58 |
VanessaE_ |
sfan5: I have that recipe in unified dyes; I recommend you add it to minetest_game. making black from two dark greys is stupid. |
14:59 |
twoelk |
was that a slot left open for some other recipe? |
14:59 |
VanessaE_ |
twoelk: no, it was just never added I guess |
15:02 |
twoelk |
looking at what iqualfragile says at minetest-dev, did you ever have larger rollbacks than what he tried, VanessaE? |
15:02 |
VanessaE_ |
I have larger rollback files, yes |
15:02 |
VanessaE_ |
but I don't recall having tried to roll back as many changes though |
15:03 |
twoelk |
thought there might be some limit, memory usage or whatever |
15:03 |
joseph_ |
I just tried 2 grey dyes, and I get grey again |
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15:04 |
twoelk |
joseph_: what game or server? |
15:04 |
* Jordach |
wins Cards Against Humanity https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Q7apBQUsikZX.png |
15:04 |
joseph_ |
Minetest .4.10 |
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15:05 |
twoelk |
running the default in singleplayer? |
15:05 |
ElectronLibre |
Minetest_game? On a local server? |
15:05 |
joseph_ |
just the one download, and cyan & orange makes dark green. Yes |
15:05 |
joseph_ |
singleplayer |
15:05 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: nono, *dark* grey |
15:05 |
VanessaE_ |
and maybe it's cyan and brown to get dark grey |
15:06 |
VanessaE_ |
anyway it's a stupid recipe |
15:06 |
joseph_ |
how do you make dark grey. There are 2 colors I haven;t figured out. Dark Grey and black |
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15:06 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: try cyan + brown |
15:06 |
T4im |
white and black -> grey, grey + black -> dark grey if i'm not mistaken |
15:06 |
VanessaE_ |
T4im: no. |
15:07 |
T4im |
not? hm |
15:07 |
VanessaE_ |
T4im: because black is derived from dark grey in the default game |
15:07 |
VanessaE_ |
instead of the other way around |
15:07 |
T4im |
well with technic you can derive it from coaldust or earlier from coal if i remember correctly |
15:08 |
VanessaE_ |
ok I just checked, cyan + brown = dark grey |
15:08 |
T4im |
is unified dyes depending on default? or can it replace it completly? |
15:08 |
VanessaE_ |
2 dark grey = black |
15:08 |
VanessaE_ |
T4im: it depends on it. |
15:08 |
T4im |
ah, ok |
15:08 |
joseph_ |
THat was it 2 dark greys and brown for dark grey. Thank you. |
15:09 |
joseph_ |
brown & cyan for dark grey |
15:09 |
joseph_ |
thanks |
15:09 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: you're welcome |
15:09 |
VanessaE_ |
T4im: unified dyes uses a more logical way to derive the colors, imho |
15:10 |
joseph_ |
What is the charcoal mod for? |
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15:10 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: to make wood into charcoal ;) |
15:11 |
T4im |
i wonder though.. are there already any mods that can make use of these huge amounts of different dyes? :D |
15:11 |
VanessaE_ |
T4im: yes. several mods use it |
15:12 |
T4im |
nice |
15:12 |
ElectronLibre |
Some of my mods use them, and a lot of the publised mods too. |
15:12 |
VanessaE_ |
some old mods, some current |
15:12 |
joseph_ |
Then how do I make char coal. It says I have the mod installed |
15:12 |
twoelk |
http://wiki.minetest.net/images/2/27/Dyes.png might be usefull |
15:12 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: you probably need to cook some tree trunks or wooden planks |
15:13 |
joseph_ |
tried both |
15:13 |
joseph_ |
they don't burn in the furnace |
15:13 |
VanessaE_ |
did you enable the mod in your world config? |
15:14 |
joseph_ |
how do you do that? It's not in the menu? |
15:14 |
VanessaE_ |
select the world you want to play in, click "Configure" |
15:14 |
VanessaE_ |
select the mod in the list, tick the "[ ] Enable" box at the top of the list |
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15:15 |
VanessaE_ |
then click "Save" and go play |
15:15 |
joseph_ |
Ok. I thought because it was installed it was enabled. That makes sense. |
15:16 |
VanessaE_ |
I wish,. |
15:16 |
VanessaE_ |
I warned that mods should be enabled-by-default but nope. others thought this was better. |
15:17 |
joseph_ |
Atleast they should beenabled if they come with the base install |
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15:18 |
* twoelk |
doesn't think charcoal is in the base install |
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15:19 |
joseph_ |
Pipeworks requires mesecons and it's rated -1. anybody use pipeworks? |
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15:19 |
VanessaE_ |
-1 ?! |
15:19 |
VanessaE_ |
D: |
15:19 |
VanessaE_ |
and it does NOT require mesecons |
15:19 |
VanessaE_ |
lots of people use pipeworks |
15:20 |
ElectronLibre |
They could make the server crash even they come from the base install. And if you only want some mods for a world, you can choose those you want and those you don't want :). |
15:20 |
VanessaE_ |
what chowderhead rated it -1 ???? |
15:20 |
joseph_ |
I have no idea. That's what comes up when I search for mesecon |
15:20 |
twoelk |
but it is more fun with mesecons and technic and ... |
15:20 |
ElectronLibre |
I've seen popular mods with rate -1 and I've never understood why, I don't know how the mmdb runs. |
15:20 |
twoelk |
search where? |
15:20 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=27794 |
15:21 |
T4im |
the game-mods are afaik auto enabled, arent they? |
15:21 |
joseph_ |
From inside the menu |
15:21 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=628 |
15:21 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: read those forum topics please. |
15:21 |
VanessaE_ |
THOSE are the real places to get info, not the minetest menu - that data is not entirely accurate. |
15:21 |
T4im |
and yes, pipeworks is one of the 'big' mods that is being referred and dependend on by other mods |
15:22 |
* T4im |
loves pipeworks |
15:22 |
twoelk |
the mmdb that feeds the inMinetest menu is verry much work in progress |
15:22 |
joseph_ |
Do I get the latest from the store? |
15:22 |
T4im |
especially the waterpipes are a great addition.. it would be nice, if that would replace bucket placed sources :P |
15:22 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: no. get the latest from those forum links |
15:23 |
twoelk |
surf here https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/ and change rating ;-P |
15:24 |
VanessaE_ |
also pipeworks shows a rating of 4, did someone already vote it up? |
15:24 |
joseph_ |
Well, that's frustrating |
15:24 |
ElectronLibre |
Hmm.. I remember this (http://wiki.minetest.net/File:Modsonservers.png) but I throught pipeworks was in it.. |
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15:25 |
joseph_ |
In the store when I do a search it still says -1 |
15:26 |
Krock |
hmm. pipeworks got 2 lines on my search site |
15:26 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: don't use the inbuilt mod store. |
15:26 |
Krock |
*likes |
15:26 |
twoelk |
the current mmdb has just been up for a short time so input from confused new users should be valuable |
15:26 |
ElectronLibre |
Pipeworks was in it on April 2014. |
15:27 |
twoelk |
yeah but mmdb was down inbetween |
15:27 |
T4im |
well, i'm not sure that at the moment theres any server active with it.. landrush contains it so far i know, but is deserted.. ethicrush is currently down for a few months.. any other servers having pipeworks atm? |
15:27 |
joseph_ |
Ok. Isn |
15:28 |
joseph_ |
Isn't that the deafult way new people will try and find mods? |
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15:28 |
twoelk |
VEC and VES use it |
15:28 |
joseph_ |
It is built intothe game |
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15:29 |
twoelk |
it should but is not perfect yet |
15:34 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE_: nobody, sapier just did not manage to use a json api correctly (however thats even possible) |
15:35 |
twoelk |
Krock, how do I get your search page to list all mods :-) |
15:35 |
Krock |
twoelk, search for '] [' |
15:35 |
Krock |
problem solved? |
15:36 |
twoelk |
hehe, I remember some mods that lack those |
15:36 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE_: yes, 4 people rated your mod, the reviews are readable on the mod page, all are positive |
15:36 |
iqualfragile |
https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mod/pipeworks/ |
15:37 |
Krock |
twoelk, AFAIK, there's no other keyword to list them all |
15:37 |
Amaz |
iqualfragile, do you maintain the mmdb? |
15:38 |
ElectronLibre |
Pipeworks' rating on mmdb is now 4 :D! |
15:38 |
twoelk |
hm 15 pages with maximal 15 entries |
15:38 |
iqualfragile |
Amaz: content? no |
15:38 |
iqualfragile |
Amaz: programming: yes |
15:38 |
Krock |
twoelk, about 900 mods are registered |
15:38 |
iqualfragile |
Amaz: design? ask rubenwardy |
15:38 |
Amaz |
Programming was what I was after! |
15:39 |
twoelk |
there are more than 225 mods, more like 900+ |
15:39 |
Amaz |
Do you think you will add a games section? |
15:39 |
Krock |
992 to be exact |
15:40 |
VanessaE_ |
iqualfragile: then please PLEASE yell at him! |
15:40 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE_: at who? |
15:40 |
iqualfragile |
Amaz: yes |
15:40 |
joseph_ |
I created a water elevator. Is there another way besides stairs to get down quickly |
15:40 |
VanessaE_ |
iqualfragile: sapier. and for G*d sakes you and the store need to add a pull-from-git option. |
15:41 |
VanessaE_ |
joseph_: use something like the travelnet mod |
15:41 |
VanessaE_ |
or use ladders and sneak elevators |
15:41 |
Amaz |
iqualfragile: Great! Any idea when it will be done? |
15:41 |
joseph_ |
Although I do like the water elevator |
15:42 |
iqualfragile |
Amaz: no, first thing i will have to do is make the mmdb use the new forums accounts |
15:42 |
Amaz |
Okay. |
15:42 |
VanessaE_ |
iqualfragile: I and the rest of us modders just do not have time to upload new versions to the store, especially if a mod doesn't *have* versions. This is 2014, there needs to be a simple, automated way to ensure that the user always gets the most up-to-date code if that's how a mod is distributed. |
15:43 |
twoelk |
Krock: so I ight be missing some 250+ here :-) http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Twoelk/mods_list_experiments |
15:43 |
iqualfragile |
i am aware of the current year, what does that information have to do with the rest? |
15:43 |
VanessaE_ |
iqualfragile: "we have the technology, we can rebuild [it]." |
15:43 |
iqualfragile |
every mod has versions, even if every single commit is a version |
15:44 |
Krock |
twoelk, "Adds something." |
15:44 |
twoelk |
joseph_: put some nodes in the bottom of a pit, go to top and jump |
15:44 |
PenguinDad |
2014 The year of rolling release! |
15:44 |
VanessaE_ |
iqualfragile: in other words, there's nothing but apathy stopping this from being made possible. no offense. |
15:44 |
twoelk |
Krock: wip |
15:45 |
twoelk |
joseph_: else use sethome command |
15:45 |
joseph_ |
I did that as soon as I found out about it. |
15:46 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE_: no, as explained every single time someone brings this up: the problem is that i want to have versions in the mmdb, mainly for security reasons, a version can be aprooved by somebody, a repository can't |
15:46 |
T4im |
a git tag can |
15:46 |
VanessaE_ |
iqualfragile: my convenience as a modder trumps your security concerns. |
15:46 |
iqualfragile |
nope |
15:46 |
ElectronLibre |
+1 Rating for Pipeworks. |
15:46 |
VanessaE_ |
I won't update stuff in the mod store - I don't have time for that. |
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15:47 |
iqualfragile |
minetest mods are inheriently insecure, they allow abitrary code to be executed |
15:47 |
VanessaE_ |
and neither does he ^^^ |
15:47 |
VanessaE_ |
:P |
15:47 |
T4im |
a git tag resolved to a commit id can easily be approved in such a way, that any change of the history makes that approval automaticly invalid |
15:47 |
iqualfragile |
i simply can't agree with letting random people execute code on our players computers |
15:47 |
T4im |
additionally git tags allow being signed via gpg |
15:47 |
twoelk |
iqualfragile: don't confuse first time users |
15:47 |
VanessaE_ |
Calinou: just smile and nod your head in agreement ;) |
15:48 |
* PenguinDad |
simply smiles and waves |
15:48 |
VanessaE_ |
iqualfragile: two elks ;-) is right. don't confuse new users. |
15:48 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE_: if you disagree please explain why, without looking like a big fat idiot (no offense) |
15:48 |
iqualfragile |
twoelk: first time users of what? |
15:49 |
VanessaE_ |
iqualfragile: because noobs get outdated version of whatever from the mod store, as joseph_ here just did, and us modders are too busy modding, playing, managing servers, and getting on with this thing called "real life" to spend time also updating the store that then has to wait for YOU to approve a mod. |
15:49 |
Calinou |
one second, reading logs |
15:49 |
VanessaE_ |
versions* |
15:49 |
iqualfragile |
s/YOU/any forum mod/ |
15:49 |
T4im |
i dont see security concerns and convenience conflicting here O_o why are you arguing? |
15:49 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE_ is lazy |
15:49 |
Calinou |
the mod store misses so many things |
15:49 |
iqualfragile |
so am i |
15:49 |
VanessaE_ |
iqualfragile: not lazy, busy. |
15:49 |
VanessaE_ |
do you even watch the shit I do lately? |
15:50 |
VanessaE_ |
I. do. not. have. time. |
15:50 |
Calinou |
there should be several people around to approve mod, not just one |
15:50 |
Calinou |
like on the forums right now |
15:50 |
Calinou |
and the upside of forums is better formatting… full BBCode |
15:50 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE_: no, i actually participated in this real life you talked about quite a lot recently, sorry i could not watch every step you make |
15:50 |
iqualfragile |
Calinou: markup |
15:50 |
PenguinDad |
Too. many. periods. |
15:50 |
VanessaE_ |
iqualfragile: case in point. |
15:50 |
Calinou |
can you use HTML/Markdown? |
15:50 |
iqualfragile |
Calinou: every forum mod can approve versons |
15:50 |
iqualfragile |
Calinou: yes |
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15:51 |
Calinou |
approving versions by hand is quite tedious for most mods and incredibly tedious for rolling-release mods |
15:51 |
VanessaE_ |
mods don't always have versions and they aren't always distributed as ZIPs |
15:51 |
kaeza |
greetings |
15:51 |
T4im |
you can always diff between current version and the last approved version |
15:51 |
VanessaE_ |
greetz, kaeza |
15:51 |
Calinou |
my mods/games/packs are rolling release because I don't see the point in versioning small stuff like that |
15:51 |
Calinou |
they're available as .zip though |
15:52 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE_: an idea to resolve the problem would be a way to create a version from a repository |
15:52 |
iqualfragile |
this is planned |
15:52 |
VanessaE_ |
my game is "versioned" by build ID, and that's just the date/time stamp that's inserted into the ZIP that's auto-uploaded to my website (a process that will NOT work with the mod store) |
15:53 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE_: oh, it won't? |
15:53 |
iqualfragile |
i do think it would |
15:53 |
iqualfragile |
curl is magick |
15:53 |
VanessaE_ |
no, not unless you have ssh publkey auth + rsync |
15:53 |
iqualfragile |
*magic |
15:53 |
VanessaE_ |
-l |
15:54 |
twoelk |
iqualfragile: so actually you are forcing modders to abandon rolling releases in favor of less frequent major updates, which have ratings that are valid for a longer version life |
15:54 |
Amaz |
How about having the mob repo check for updates each week, and if there are any, submit them for review, where trusted people could check and approve them? |
15:55 |
twoelk |
wont work in real life ;-) |
15:55 |
Amaz |
twoelk, my idea? |
15:56 |
T4im |
all rolling releases have still release cycles.. so _every_ rolling release has versions.. the lenght of those cycles may vary, but should not be a concern to the software |
15:56 |
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15:56 |
Amaz |
Or what you said? |
15:56 |
VanessaE_ |
T4im: incorrect. |
15:56 |
twoelk |
former |
15:56 |
VanessaE_ |
T4im: for example dreambuilder might get one update in a few days' time, or it might get 10 updates in one day. |
15:56 |
VanessaE_ |
and that's not theory, that's practice. |
15:56 |
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15:57 |
shadowzone |
VanessaE_, What's with the underscore? |
15:57 |
T4im |
vanessae: if its in a git repository it has versions... its a versioning system after all... the difference is, that you want to "deploy" in shorter cycles than others might |
15:57 |
VanessaE_ |
shadowzone: netsplit, too lazy to re-auth |
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15:57 |
shadowzone |
Oh. |
15:58 |
iqualfragile |
VanessaE_: even !YOU! can review mods: https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/queue/ |
15:58 |
VanessaE_ |
T4im: you're implying I should make and upload a new release to the store for every one of those updates? |
15:58 |
Amaz |
twoelk, My idea? If so, why wouldn't it work? |
15:58 |
T4im |
all mmdb has to do is take a commit id or git tag or other kind of rev each time you want it to be "deployed", then grep that stuff from the repoistory at that ref, optionally go through an approval workflow... |
15:58 |
VanessaE_ |
T4im: which is something iqualfragile refuses to do. |
15:58 |
VanessaE_ |
T4im: he wants discrete ZIP files. |
15:59 |
raffahacks |
I've converted my friend from minecraft to minetest :) |
15:59 |
T4im |
which might even result in a git tag that is signed by the person doign the approval |
16:00 |
twoelk |
Amaz: (each week, trusted people, review) is dificult with everything being volantary |
16:00 |
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16:00 |
T4im |
that commit id is cryptographicly guaranteed to correlate to a very specific version of the repository including all history... any change in that will result in a different revision, thereby making any aproval on that id invalid |
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16:00 |
Amaz |
I suppose so. |
16:00 |
twoelk |
twoelk: and it should because of: volanteers |
16:00 |
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16:01 |
T4im |
then you only need to argue about how frequent approvals are being reasonable.. but git actually makes approval easier when you only have to approve the diff and not a zip file |
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16:01 |
iqualfragile |
T4im: code https://bitbucket.org/iqualfragile/mmdb/ django documentation: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.7/ celery documentation: http://www.celeryproject.org/ |
16:02 |
* twoelk |
remembers some Django, a dirty town and a coffin |
16:05 |
Calinou |
Amaz, each week isn't enough, updates need to be as fast as possible |
16:08 |
twoelk |
T4im: git is only easier for git users |
16:10 |
Amaz |
Calinou, yes, but once a week seems reasonable, as most people won't update their mods more than that, and it gives the testers a certain time when the mod database will require mods to be tested, rather than have a influx of mods over a week. |
16:11 |
Amaz |
Or maybe, for the big mod makers, a exemption from the testing could be made, as they are known to be trustworthy... |
16:12 |
Calinou |
not enough |
16:12 |
Calinou |
a Git repository, in comparison, is updated instantly |
16:12 |
Amaz |
Yep. But this is linked into the game, and so, the content needs to be trustworthy. |
16:13 |
Calinou |
in-game mmdb is buggy anywya |
16:13 |
Calinou |
oh, there seriously lacks license selection and NC clause is allowed |
16:13 |
Calinou |
first one needs to be fixed to not force people to add stupid hacks in their description, second one will eventually get is in the land of Debian non-free |
16:13 |
Calinou |
get us* |
16:13 |
Amaz |
So, it requires that mods be tested for malicious code. |
16:14 |
Amaz |
Fair enough. |
16:14 |
Calinou |
what do other extension repositories like Mozilla Addons do? |
16:14 |
Calinou |
for their approval process, if any |
16:14 |
Calinou |
voting? |
16:14 |
Calinou |
AUR does voting |
16:16 |
VanessaE_ |
how the fuck are we supposed to be able to test that a mod is truly non-malicious? |
16:16 |
Calinou |
read its code |
16:16 |
VanessaE_ |
that's AVG-level stuff there |
16:16 |
T4im |
twoelk: git would be hidden behind a frontend... and from a mod developer i believe requiring versioning isn't a bad thing... |
16:16 |
VanessaE_ |
Calinou: binary code. |
16:16 |
Calinou |
ideally we'd have sandboxing or safety measures in Lua API… |
16:16 |
Calinou |
VanessaE_, the mods are in Lua? |
16:16 |
Calinou |
so what does binary have to do |
16:17 |
VanessaE_ |
Calinou: mods can be pre-compiled. sandboxing is coming soon but isn't here yet. |
16:17 |
Calinou |
requiring versioning for a mod is like requiring all mods to use a VCS or such |
16:17 |
Calinou |
it's not suitable for all cases |
16:17 |
Calinou |
especially small mods |
16:17 |
Amaz |
+Calinou |
16:18 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: non-free mods won't get us into the nonfree debian repo section |
16:18 |
T4im |
calinou: when i say versioning, i meant a VCS,.. so not just like it.. exactly that :p |
16:18 |
T4im |
a VCS does versioning after all |
16:18 |
Calinou |
<sfan5> Calinou: non-free mods won't get us into the nonfree debian repo section |
16:18 |
Calinou |
they perfectly cloud |
16:18 |
Calinou |
STK doesn't disallow non-DFSG stuff without reason |
16:19 |
T4im |
Calinou: but the mods are bundled separatly in debian |
16:19 |
T4im |
so only the mods would land there |
16:19 |
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16:19 |
Calinou |
no they aren't |
16:19 |
Calinou |
there's an in-game repository |
16:19 |
Calinou |
there are packages for mods too, but no one uses and updates them |
16:20 |
Calinou |
they have a 1 year old More Blocks, More Ores and Pipeworks |
16:20 |
T4im |
the in-game repository however does not auto-download anything.. debian does not forbid their users to download non-free stuff after all |
16:20 |
T4im |
iceweasel is free, yet you may download proprietary addosn with it.. |
16:20 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: ofc they could; debian could completly close tomorrow too, will they? no |
16:21 |
* Calinou |
facepalm |
16:21 |
Calinou |
<29T4im> iceweasel is free, yet you may download proprietary addosn with it.. |
16:21 |
Calinou |
OK here you're silly |
16:21 |
Calinou |
the MDDB is an official resource |
16:21 |
Calinou |
included into the game |
16:21 |
Calinou |
no compile-time option to disable it |
16:21 |
iqualfragile |
Calinou: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1022 |
16:21 |
T4im |
so is addons.mozilla.com |
16:21 |
iqualfragile |
loong loong discussion |
16:21 |
Calinou |
but Firefox isn't DFSG/FSDG-compliant |
16:21 |
iqualfragile |
please add stuff not allready said there |
16:21 |
Calinou |
they don't want it |
16:21 |
Calinou |
here we may want it |
16:22 |
iqualfragile |
if you don't have anything unsaid please don't spam here |
16:22 |
VanessaE_ |
I give up |
16:23 |
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16:23 |
Calinou |
we all gave up on MMDB :P |
16:23 |
* sfan5 |
meows at RumiaGloopMkII |
16:23 |
* sfan5 |
shoots cats at RumiaGloopMkII |
16:23 |
* RumiaGloopMkII |
dies |
16:24 |
* shadowzone |
tosses sfan5 a ball of yarn. |
16:24 |
* PenguinDad |
throws a cat at 0.9c at shadowzone |
16:24 |
* sfan5 |
throws a cat at 0.9°C at shadowzone |
16:24 |
* iqualfragile |
explodes bc shockwave |
16:24 |
* VanessaE_ |
slides a bowl of cream out onto the channel's coffee table |
16:24 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/JB1Ggy1.gif |
16:24 |
sfan5 |
we have a coffee table? |
16:24 |
sfan5 |
thats new |
16:24 |
Jordach |
meow |
16:24 |
* sfan5 |
meows at Jordach |
16:24 |
VanessaE_ |
sfan5: well we have a channel sofa don't we? |
16:25 |
* sfan5 |
noms the bowl |
16:25 |
Jordach |
i really need to render the channel |
16:25 |
sfan5 |
yes we do |
16:25 |
sfan5 |
<Jordach> i really need to render the channel |
16:25 |
sfan5 |
this |
16:25 |
Jordach |
with a proper layout and shit |
16:25 |
sfan5 |
so much |
16:25 |
VanessaE_ |
sfan5: and it's a homedecor/lrfurn sofa, right? |
16:25 |
VanessaE_ |
Jordach: I'd love to see that :) |
16:25 |
PenguinDad |
<Jordach> i really need to render the channel |
16:25 |
PenguinDad |
Yes pleas |
16:25 |
PenguinDad |
e |
16:25 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE_: I dunno, I didn't put it there |
16:25 |
Jordach |
Step 1) log the fuck into VE-Creative |
16:25 |
RumiaGloopMkII |
#somanycats |
16:25 |
Calinou |
Delete button doesn't ask for confirmation on MMDB… bad thing |
16:25 |
VanessaE_ |
sfan5: well if it is, then we must surely have a coffee table too :D |
16:25 |
sfan5 |
:D |
16:26 |
Jordach |
Step 2) decide on the room shape and design |
16:26 |
sfan5 |
!g which color does our sofa have? |
16:26 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: http://www.wikihow.com/Spray-Paint-Your-Sofa |
16:26 |
Amaz |
XD |
16:26 |
sfan5 |
apparently brown |
16:26 |
Jordach |
sfan5, use a random colour based on the dyes |
16:26 |
PenguinDad |
xD |
16:26 |
VanessaE_ |
Jordach: you're welcome to use VE-C to model it or at least lay it out |
16:27 |
VanessaE_ |
sfan5: no, see, they painted it yellow :) |
16:27 |
Jordach |
https://i.imgur.com/ApMDZkq.jpg |
16:27 |
sfan5 |
!c random.choice(["very light", "light", "", "dark", "very dark"]) + " " + random.choice(["Red", "Green", "Blue", "Yellow", "Brown", "Purple", "Pink", "Orange", "Gray", "Black", "White"]) |
16:27 |
MinetestBot |
'very light Black' |
16:28 |
sfan5 |
^ Jordach |
16:28 |
VanessaE_ |
very light black? heh |
16:28 |
Jordach |
sfan5, time saved = 1000 seconds |
16:28 |
Jordach |
there's a lrfurn derived sofa model somewhere in my dropbox |
16:28 |
sfan5 |
how about the wand colors? |
16:28 |
sfan5 |
!c random.choice(["very light", "light", "", "dark", "very dark"]) + " " + random.choice(["Red", "Green", "Blue", "Yellow", "Brown", "Purple", "Pink", "Orange", "Gray", "Black", "White"]) |
16:28 |
MinetestBot |
'light White' |
16:28 |
sfan5 |
hm |
16:28 |
sfan5 |
!c random.choice(["very light", "light", "", "dark", "very dark"]) + " " + random.choice(["Red", "Green", "Blue", "Yellow", "Brown", "Purple", "Pink", "Orange", "Gray", "Black", "White"]) |
16:28 |
MinetestBot |
'very light Orange' |
16:28 |
sfan5 |
^ Jordach |
16:28 |
VanessaE_ |
wand colors? |
16:28 |
sfan5 |
walls |
16:29 |
sfan5 |
I mean |
16:29 |
VanessaE_ |
ah |
16:29 |
VanessaE_ |
black and orange |
16:29 |
sfan5 |
nah |
16:29 |
VanessaE_ |
apropos given the time of year. |
16:29 |
sfan5 |
light white and very light orange |
16:29 |
sfan5 |
or wait |
16:29 |
PenguinDad |
Black and Yellow :D |
16:29 |
VanessaE_ |
PenguinDad: hello. |
16:29 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: light white for the ceiling, very light orange for the walls |
16:29 |
sfan5 |
PenguinDad: no u |
16:29 |
Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/wmgFVAm7Nhwv.png we gots a sofa |
16:30 |
VanessaE_ |
PenguinDad: or was it, they get behind a fellow? :P |
16:30 |
RumiaGloopMkII |
litebrite |
16:30 |
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16:30 |
VanessaE_ |
Jordach: that's sorta kinda somewhat based on lrfurn but not exactly :P |
16:30 |
Jordach |
VanessaE_, i wasn't in the mood for the legs |
16:30 |
Jordach |
fuck that signal to noise |
16:31 |
* RumiaGloopMkII |
noms Jordach |
16:31 |
VanessaE_ |
heh |
16:31 |
Jordach |
nom |
16:31 |
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16:31 |
Jordach |
VanessaE_, and mapping the nodebox mappings onto it is a pita |
16:31 |
RumiaGloopMkII |
nom |
16:32 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: final specs: very light black sofa, light white ceiling, very light orange walls, wooden coffee table |
16:32 |
Jordach |
you want me to make a 1:1 copy, gtfo and go else where |
16:32 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: and don't forget the cats |
16:32 |
sfan5 |
:P |
16:32 |
Jordach |
sfan5, not glass? |
16:32 |
sfan5 |
hm no |
16:32 |
sfan5 |
wooden looks better IMO |
16:32 |
VanessaE_ |
Jordach: wait, remember we have an upstairs too |
16:32 |
RumiaGloopMkII |
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=26762583 nom |
16:32 |
Jordach |
VanessaE_, bullshit |
16:32 |
ElectronLibre |
Jordach, beautiful sofa :D. |
16:32 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE_: IRC rooms not IRC houses |
16:32 |
VanessaE_ |
Jordach: no, seriously. the kitten generator is up there, but OldCoder's kitten pile is down here. |
16:32 |
VanessaE_ |
RumiaGloopMkII: isn't it? :) |
16:32 |
RumiaGloopMkII |
idk |
16:33 |
VanessaE_ |
haha |
16:33 |
sfan5 |
RumiaGloopMkII: is she bleeding? D: |
16:33 |
RumiaGloopMkII |
you guys redecorated |
16:33 |
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16:33 |
Jordach |
tl;dr we need a kitchen |
16:33 |
RumiaGloopMkII |
I think we're renting space from the german channel |
16:33 |
VanessaE_ |
RumiaGloopMkII: your kitten generator has been glitching out for a long time. fix the fucking thing :) |
16:33 |
Amaz |
If you need an idea for a table, here's one I made: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bj9sCY19Twb1.png |
16:33 |
* RumiaGloopMkII |
hands VanessaE_ a hammer |
16:33 |
sfan5 |
!cat |
16:33 |
MinetestBot |
http://i.imgur.com/3nHDsb8.jpg |
16:33 |
* sfan5 |
throws ^ at RumiaGloopMkII |
16:33 |
VanessaE_ |
see? |
16:33 |
VanessaE_ |
look at the ears on that sucker? |
16:33 |
VanessaE_ |
:) |
16:33 |
sfan5 |
:D |
16:34 |
* Jordach |
would pet that cat all day |
16:34 |
* Jordach |
needs a cat model |
16:34 |
* sfan5 |
advises Jordach to buy or adopt a cat |
16:34 |
sfan5 |
you had a cat model |
16:34 |
sfan5 |
you showed me a screeenshot |
16:34 |
sfan5 |
-e |
16:35 |
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16:36 |
Jordach |
sfan5, that's MIA |
16:38 |
Krock |
Amaz, dat table is too dark. |
16:38 |
shadowzone |
I want a kitty cat now. |
16:38 |
shadowzone |
But I can't have cats. |
16:38 |
* Amaz |
likes dark wood furniture :P |
16:39 |
* Jordach |
watches his system break limits again with HDX512 on VE-C |
16:39 |
VanessaE_ |
heh |
16:39 |
VanessaE_ |
HDX needs work :( |
16:40 |
VanessaE_ |
many mods are getting out of date |
16:41 |
* Krock |
does IRC.User[x] = IRC.User[x].Remove(8); |
16:41 |
Krock |
^v VanessaE_ |
16:42 |
^v |
Krock, what |
16:42 |
Krock |
oops |
16:44 |
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16:44 |
Jordach |
VanessaE_, you're going to help me |
16:44 |
Jordach |
my interior design sucks |
16:45 |
PenguinDad |
/nick Pe < you mean this Krock |
16:45 |
VanessaE_ |
I am? :P |
16:45 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, 'Pe'? |
16:46 |
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16:46 |
VanessaE_ |
Krock: no idea, ask the people responsible for that mod :P |
16:46 |
* Krock |
slaps VanessaE_ with /nick |
16:46 |
Jordach |
flooring: carpet or wood |
16:46 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: last 8 characters removed |
16:46 |
* VanessaE_ |
smacks Krock with a _ |
16:47 |
* Krock |
headdesks |
16:47 |
* DogePony |
facehoofs |
16:48 |
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16:49 |
RumiaGloopMkII |
UNDERBARU |
16:49 |
Xack |
holy crap |
16:49 |
Xack |
a whiskers75 |
16:49 |
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16:50 |
marioxcc |
hello. What would be required to trasnfer a LandRush world to another server without broking it?. |
16:50 |
PenguinDad |
A wild whiskers75 appears! |
16:50 |
marioxcc |
For instance, I know that unknown blocks and items may appear if I don't do it properly. Why does that happens and how can it be avoided? |
16:51 |
T4im |
that's due to the mods lacking, that define those nodes |
16:51 |
T4im |
usually |
16:51 |
VanessaE |
marioxcc: just copy the world directory whole, and install the mods. that's it |
16:52 |
VanessaE |
as long as the mods and game are there, the world should work |
16:52 |
marioxcc |
VanessaE: Thanks you. We have unknown nodes in LandRush, I can't find anything on how to address that issue, would you be so kind to give me some pointers? |
16:53 |
T4im |
thats because the nethermod is gone |
16:53 |
T4im |
apparently some of the nodes were defined otherwise |
16:53 |
VanessaE |
marioxcc: look at what kind of node it was and install the mod that defined it. like T4im says, maybe it was nether. maybe something else, etc. |
16:53 |
T4im |
take an elevator down to nether.. spawn 6 and everhills elevator still teleport you there, since they werent updated.. you land in stone |
16:53 |
marioxcc |
VanessaE: well, it was sevaral kind of nodes, like minecarts, and some nether stuff, yes |
16:54 |
VanessaE |
marioxcc: then all you have to do is install the missing mods and enable them |
16:54 |
marioxcc |
T4im, VanessaE: ok, thanks. |
16:55 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
16:55 |
T4im |
the interesting thing is, that something apparently defines some of the nethernodes like nethersand and glowstones, but not netherrack |
16:55 |
marioxcc |
will the mods fix the unknown nodes without further action? I thought that there was something like a register type of node function |
16:55 |
T4im |
hello rubenwardy :) |
16:56 |
VanessaE |
marioxcc: yes. |
16:56 |
marioxcc |
wouldn't they just define a separate instance of that type of blocks? |
16:56 |
VanessaE |
they will automatically fix. |
16:56 |
marioxcc |
(so that the existing ones would remain unknown) |
16:56 |
marioxcc |
ok |
16:56 |
VanessaE |
if the node is the same as before |
16:56 |
joseph_ |
I am getting an error with pushable_block. Anybody have a clue on this: |
16:56 |
joseph_ |
12:50:20: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA =========== 12:50:20: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from 12:50:20: ERROR[main]: [censored]\minetest-0.4.10-win64-msvc\minetest-0.4.10-64bit\bin\..\mods\pushable_block\init.lua: 12:50:20: ERROR[main]: ...inetest-0.4.10-64bit\bin\..\mods\pushable_block\init.lua:16: attempt to concatenate local 'monorail_modpath' (a nil value) 12:50:20: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: 12:50: |
16:57 |
VanessaE |
e.g. if a node was registered as "foo:bar" and that's how it was saved in the map, then the next mod that registers foo:bar will cause the node to become defined again with whatever textures and properties are assigned thereto. |
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16:58 |
joseph_ |
do I need monorail_modpath? |
16:58 |
VanessaE |
joseph_: rename the directory to monorail |
16:58 |
marioxcc |
VanessaE: right, thanks :D |
16:58 |
ElectronLibre |
And if you can, use pastebin.ubuntu.com :). |
17:00 |
lemonlake_ |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/D2VbhTN4MV8g.png |
17:00 |
lemonlake_ |
how is it looking now? |
17:01 |
joseph_ |
I don't have monorail. |
17:01 |
VanessaE |
lemonlake_: nice. |
17:01 |
rubenwardy |
Whatcha doing, lemonlake_? |
17:01 |
PenguinDad |
lemonlake_: um, where's the difference? |
17:01 |
VanessaE |
joseph_: get rid of that mod and get the real one then |
17:01 |
VanessaE |
joseph_: get this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=730 |
17:01 |
ElectronLibre |
Enable the mod "monorail" instead of the old named version. |
17:01 |
lemonlake_ |
rubenwardy: updating the website layout to make it more understandable |
17:01 |
lemonlake_ |
PenguinDad: the top bar |
17:02 |
Krock |
joseph_, rename the folder to 'pushable_block' |
17:02 |
twoelk |
marioxcc: what are you up to? a personall copy of landrush? |
17:02 |
Krock |
pushable_block = monorail |
17:02 |
lemonlake_ |
PenguinDad: see the old version at http://lemonlake.nuclearstorm.net |
17:02 |
VanessaE |
Krock: pushable_block\init.lua |
17:02 |
VanessaE |
Krock: it already IS pushable_block. |
17:02 |
Krock |
VanessaE, I saw it, yes |
17:02 |
Krock |
oh |
17:02 |
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17:02 |
Krock |
oops :3 |
17:02 |
* rubenwardy |
will be releasing his programming language "beruben" soon XD |
17:03 |
joseph_ |
I don't have monorail & it is named pushable_block |
17:04 |
joseph_ |
That's why I don't understand this error |
17:04 |
PenguinDad |
joseph_: the mod is named monorail |
17:05 |
joseph_ |
DO you mean to rename pushable_block to monorail? |
17:05 |
PenguinDad |
joseph_: yes |
17:06 |
joseph_ |
Ah. Thanks. BTW the default install installs it as pushable |
17:06 |
joseph_ |
pushable_block that is |
17:06 |
Krock |
hmm it worked fine last time with pushable_block :/ |
17:06 |
Krock |
possibly an outdated version |
17:08 |
* Jordach_ |
pokes sfan5 to join isis.inchra.net 30000 |
17:08 |
joseph_ |
If it maters I am using the 64bit Visual C++ version. Should I also rename the "VanessaE-pipeworks-5b2e3a4" to "pipeworks"? |
17:08 |
Krock |
^exactly |
17:09 |
Krock |
joseph_, look at the '[....]' brackets in the forum title. they tell you which name the folder must have |
17:10 |
VanessaE |
joseph_: from the first post, "Install: Download and unzip the above file, rename VanessaE-pipeworks-blahblah to just "pipeworks", and move it into Minetest's mods directory." |
17:10 |
VanessaE |
doesn't ANYONE read the install instructions anymore? *grumble* |
17:11 |
Krock |
!wiki installing mods |
17:11 |
MinetestBot |
"Prior to installing any mod, please make sure that you have received it from someone you trust." - http://wiki.minetest.net/installing_mods |
17:11 |
Krock |
^ |
17:11 |
rubenwardy |
MinetestBot! |
17:11 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy! |
17:11 |
PenguinDad |
VanessaE: today's people except everything to work ootb |
17:11 |
ElectronLibre |
I do. But it's logic renaming mods with only [a-z_0-9]. |
17:12 |
VanessaE |
PenguinDad: I just wish I could get github to stop giving bullshit names to the extracted directory |
17:12 |
VanessaE |
the name of the package is "pipeworks", not "VanessaE-pipeworks-foo" |
17:13 |
ElectronLibre |
$ rename *-pipeworks-* pipeworks |
17:13 |
PenguinDad |
foo is an interesting commit id :D |
17:14 |
rubenwardy |
mine just says modname-master |
17:14 |
Calinou |
remove -master |
17:15 |
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17:15 |
OldCoder |
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17:15 |
marioxcc |
hi OldCoder |
17:15 |
sfan5 |
Jordach_: i did |
17:16 |
ElectronLibre |
Hello OldCoder. |
17:17 |
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17:17 |
aldobr |
need help |
17:17 |
aldobr |
i need to split a command parameter |
17:17 |
aldobr |
it should be separated via spaces and validated for type |
17:17 |
aldobr |
*by |
17:17 |
ElectronLibre |
Yes. What command? |
17:17 |
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17:17 |
Krock |
aldobr, param:split(" ") |
17:18 |
T4im |
aldobr: example: local target, transferAmount, subject = string.match(param, "transfer [^ ]+ ([^ ]+) ([0-9]+) ?(.*)") |
17:18 |
T4im |
regex makes good type validation |
17:18 |
aldobr |
hm |
17:18 |
aldobr |
so number is ([0-9]+) |
17:18 |
T4im |
yes |
17:18 |
aldobr |
and string is [^ ]+ |
17:18 |
T4im |
that reads as 'anything but space and at least one of it' |
17:19 |
T4im |
the () are capture groups |
17:19 |
Jordach_ |
sfan5, meow |
17:19 |
aldobr |
thanks |
17:19 |
T4im |
they are being assigned to the variables |
17:19 |
sfan5 |
Jordach_: meow |
17:19 |
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17:20 |
T4im |
aldobr: split can be easier, but might not fit every usecase, where you have for example to accept text with spaces in it |
17:21 |
Jordach_ |
sfan5, i have two materials you suggested |
17:21 |
T4im |
after that you can use tonumber() and tostring() to enforce having the right type() which returns the type |
17:21 |
T4im |
right type and type()...* |
17:22 |
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17:23 |
T4im |
aldobr: you might want to read http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial |
17:25 |
aldobr |
how to detect if the match was not sucessfull (ie: if the player did not supply the correct parameters) ? |
17:25 |
T4im |
match will return nil |
17:25 |
aldobr |
hm |
17:25 |
aldobr |
just anoither question, how to match negative numbers ? |
17:27 |
aldobr |
negative or positive number (ie : integer) |
17:27 |
T4im |
well.. (-?[0-9]+) should work.. if not you might have to escape -, but i think it should work so |
17:28 |
Calinou |
mods starting with . will never be loaded (dotfiles) |
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17:28 |
Calinou |
even on Windows |
17:28 |
Calinou |
but on Windows, at least on 8/8.1, you can't rename a file and make it begin with . from the GUI :( |
17:28 |
Calinou |
or it says “Please enter a file name.†|
17:29 |
T4im |
aldobr: note, that in the example i posted you transfer was not the chatcommand, but the first parameter that i expected there |
17:29 |
PenguinDad |
It used to work in windows versions below 8 |
17:29 |
T4im |
so param does not contain the chatcommand itself |
17:29 |
aldobr |
ok |
17:29 |
aldobr |
thanks, very usefull |
17:29 |
T4im |
also i swallowed the second parameter, which you might not want to do |
17:30 |
T4im |
(it was parsed earlier in that code already) |
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17:30 |
PenguinDad |
T4im: param doesn't include the name of the chatcommand |
17:31 |
T4im |
that's what i said, yes :P |
17:34 |
sfan5 |
Jordach_: * Cannot join #minetest (Channel is invite only) wtf |
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17:38 |
* Krock |
wonders if someone would crash-test his minetest.register_ore() addition on yappy |
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17:41 |
ElectronLibre |
Calinou : About renaming file with ., I can do it. If you can't, try adding "". |
17:41 |
ElectronLibre |
*on Windows 8/8.1 . |
17:42 |
Calinou |
ah, thanks |
17:42 |
Calinou |
"".filename |
17:42 |
Calinou |
this? |
17:42 |
Xack |
hey Calinou :) |
17:44 |
ElectronLibre |
No, ".filename". |
17:45 |
ElectronLibre |
That was the way to add a special extension to the filename (.lua, .vbs, .html, etc...). |
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17:50 |
* Krock |
gives Amaz a ']' |
17:51 |
Amaz |
:P |
17:51 |
Krock |
Amaz, you know why? |
17:51 |
Calinou |
hi Xack :D |
17:51 |
Xack |
:D |
17:51 |
Calinou |
ElectronLibre, I can change the extension fine (by not hiding them) |
17:51 |
Amaz |
Post? |
17:51 |
Calinou |
but I can't begin a file name with . |
17:52 |
Krock |
Amaz, 101% correct |
17:52 |
* Amaz |
meant to click on preview! |
17:52 |
ElectronLibre |
Hmm... can't help you Calinou... |
17:53 |
Krock |
Calinou, try with batch? > ren old.blah .blah |
17:54 |
Xack |
wait wtf |
17:54 |
Xack |
Calinou is using windows? o.o |
17:55 |
Calinou |
some PCs do |
17:55 |
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17:55 |
Calinou |
like work… |
17:55 |
* Krock |
's PC loves Windows XP |
17:55 |
Calinou |
what's wrong with knowing how to use Windows? |
17:55 |
Calinou |
you don't forget how to use GNU/Linux after that |
17:55 |
T4im |
i hope so O_o |
17:55 |
Xack |
Calinou: I know, I was just shocked, I thought you suddenly switched for a moment there... |
17:56 |
Xack |
xD |
17:56 |
Calinou |
I suddenly switched once, actually |
17:56 |
* PenguinDad |
barely knows how to use windows xD |
17:56 |
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17:57 |
kaeza |
you gotta know the opposition in order to effectively bash it :P |
17:57 |
T4im |
:> |
17:58 |
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17:59 |
aldobr |
finished adding programmed money transfer system to my mod |
17:59 |
aldobr |
commands : |
17:59 |
T4im |
hm? did i just give you a more fitting example than i thought? :P |
17:59 |
aldobr |
/bank <- tells how much money you have in account |
18:00 |
aldobr |
/transfer programs a transfer |
18:00 |
aldobr |
/deletetransfer deletes a transfer |
18:00 |
aldobr |
/listtransfers lists all trasnfers |
18:00 |
T4im |
aldobr: we might have to talk then.. whats your mod name? not that we clash |
18:00 |
aldobr |
,mint |
18:00 |
T4im |
ah |
18:00 |
T4im |
ok |
18:00 |
aldobr |
i added a banking system to my mint mod |
18:00 |
T4im |
ok :) |
18:01 |
T4im |
you got me worried for a second.. https://github.com/t4im/economies/tree/master/bank hehe |
18:04 |
kaeza |
english is weird. they use the same word for two different, unrelated things |
18:05 |
kaeza |
"mint" can mean the building where coins are forged, or, you know, that plant from which sweets and other stuff is made |
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18:05 |
jin_xi |
its because you press the metal to coins like candies... mints! |
18:05 |
* jin_xi |
hides |
18:06 |
* PenguinDad |
detects jin_xi |
18:07 |
aldobr |
in my mint mod the values are based on coin objects |
18:07 |
EvergreenTree |
LOL https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=154022#p154022 |
18:07 |
aldobr |
coins are minted from gold ingots etc |
18:07 |
EvergreenTree |
this guy |
18:07 |
kaeza |
maybe someone can give me an entire building if I ask for a mint? |
18:07 |
aldobr |
you might get unluck and someone hands you a linux mint dvd |
18:08 |
kaeza |
:P |
18:08 |
* aldobr |
mandriva user |
18:08 |
* sfan5 |
arch user |
18:08 |
PenguinDad |
MinetestBot! |
18:08 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad! |
18:08 |
* kaeza |
Ubuntu user |
18:09 |
* PenguinDad |
debian user |
18:09 |
* Amaz |
Peppermint user |
18:09 |
kaeza |
my distro is better! |
18:09 |
* ElectronLibre |
debian user. |
18:10 |
* ElectronLibre |
manjaro, archlinux, ubuntu user too.. |
18:10 |
aldobr |
puppylinux for the win ! |
18:10 |
* MinetestBot |
Ubuntu user |
18:10 |
kaeza |
Puppy ♥ |
18:10 |
aldobr |
i am not using openmandriva becouse its too big for my atom computer |
18:11 |
aldobr |
all powerfull four threads atom d525 :P |
18:12 |
* kaeza |
thought aldobr had a comp the size of an atom |
18:12 |
kaeza |
also, sadly, being root all the time is not exactly...ehm... good for security. |
18:12 |
* kaeza |
looks at puppy |
18:12 |
aldobr |
atom is a misnnomer, its more like quark |
18:14 |
ElectronLibre |
Who did make MinetestBot speaking? |
18:14 |
* PenguinDad |
|
18:15 |
sfan5 |
ElectronLibre: me |
18:15 |
ElectronLibre |
There is a !me command? |
18:15 |
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18:16 |
PenguinDad |
ElectronLibre: try MinetestBot! |
18:16 |
sfan5 |
ElectronLibre: yes |
18:17 |
* PenguinDad |
didn't see the * MinetestBot Ubuntu user |
18:18 |
RealBadAngel |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUeiwNKahWI&feature=youtu.be |
18:18 |
* Krock |
didn't see the * PenguinDad didn't see the * MinetestBot Ubuntu user |
18:18 |
RealBadAngel |
what do you think on that approach to highlighting? |
18:18 |
PenguinDad |
EvergreenTree: that is a post with a really quality |
18:18 |
Krock |
RealBadAngel. impressive view |
18:18 |
PenguinDad |
+ high |
18:19 |
sfan5 |
RealBadAngel: looks good, customizeable color maybe; this should be the default for android |
18:19 |
Jordach |
meow :3 |
18:19 |
aldobr |
who wants to implement a evolutionary tree system |
18:19 |
aldobr |
? |
18:19 |
RealBadAngel |
sfan5, its textureable |
18:20 |
RealBadAngel |
so you can make it whenever color you like |
18:20 |
sfan5 |
we don't need textureability for that |
18:20 |
EvergreenTree |
RealBadAngel: That looks great! |
18:20 |
RealBadAngel |
yes, since its a mesh |
18:20 |
EvergreenTree |
I like the hologram sort of feel to it |
18:20 |
EvergreenTree |
it being texturable is great too |
18:20 |
EvergreenTree |
minecraft doesn't have that option afaik |
18:20 |
PenguinDad |
RealBadAngel: That looks really nice |
18:21 |
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18:21 |
Jordach |
so i heard you like depth sorting |
18:21 |
Jordach |
got the most winning bug of them all |
18:21 |
Jordach |
https://cdn.mediacru.sh/58JzAiUhTDJX.png |
18:21 |
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18:22 |
PenguinDad |
wut |
18:22 |
Jordach |
look at that |
18:22 |
Jordach |
you're having x-ray vision through another object |
18:23 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: how the hell did you do THAT ? |
18:23 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, those japaenese walls |
18:23 |
PenguinDad |
How the hell is this even possible? |
18:23 |
* aldobr |
cant understand the image |
18:23 |
Jordach |
if they are the same material, it'll do that, but mid covering top and bottom won't showq |
18:23 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: yeah I got that, but the object that's sticking out I meant |
18:23 |
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18:23 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, VE-C |
18:23 |
VanessaE |
what is that, a dropped item or something? |
18:23 |
Jordach |
now |
18:23 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, those are nodes |
18:25 |
VanessaE |
I know they're nodes :P |
18:25 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: dude, you're making me dizzy |
18:26 |
sfan5 |
:D |
18:26 |
* ElectronLibre |
understand these are japanese walls, but not the image O_O |
18:26 |
sfan5 |
listening to electronic music right now |
18:26 |
OldCoder |
ElectronLibre, nice nick |
18:26 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: what's a bug? |
18:27 |
jp_ |
Jordach, you haven't explained how you did that... |
18:27 |
ElectronLibre |
Thank you OldCoder. |
18:27 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, transparent materials do a half z-fighting |
18:27 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: old bug. turn on shaders, it helps. |
18:28 |
VanessaE |
there's no Z-sorting in minetest that works worth a damn |
18:28 |
VanessaE |
shaders help that somewhat. |
18:28 |
aldobr |
inst zbuffer enough to prevent that ? (in the videocard) |
18:28 |
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18:29 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/BKSxPu8lAswc.png |
18:29 |
VanessaE |
oh funky |
18:29 |
Jordach |
so we have technical camoflauge |
18:30 |
VanessaE |
that doesn't happen on my bocx |
18:30 |
VanessaE |
box |
18:30 |
VanessaE |
for me, the walls are opaque because I am not using shaders |
18:30 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, shaders are off here |
18:30 |
VanessaE |
must be a driver-specific thing then |
18:30 |
Jordach |
(build dated 2014 - sept 03) |
18:30 |
sfan5 |
shaders on here |
18:30 |
sfan5 |
build at those commits that are in sfan5/minetest on GH |
18:30 |
sfan5 |
screenie uploading |
18:31 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ZXnlzL7GfbTo.png |
18:31 |
VanessaE |
wait, strike that |
18:31 |
VanessaE |
my shaders were ON |
18:31 |
VanessaE |
but the walls were still opaque |
18:31 |
sfan5 |
it only happens for about 1 second |
18:31 |
VanessaE |
very strange |
18:31 |
sfan5 |
when you move it's gone |
18:31 |
sfan5 |
very hard to reproduce |
18:31 |
lemonlake_ |
tomaw, wtf? |
18:32 |
lemonlake_ |
ó.ó |
18:32 |
sfan5 |
lemonlake_: not tomaws fault |
18:32 |
Vazon |
i got that as well |
18:32 |
lemonlake_ |
oh it was a freenode notice |
18:32 |
sfan5 |
oh wait |
18:32 |
sfan5 |
a new notice |
18:32 |
sfan5 |
why do I never get them? |
18:32 |
VanessaE |
ah, there's translucent here, off and on |
18:32 |
lemonlake_ |
because you're camp |
18:32 |
ElectronLibre |
Already done. |
18:33 |
VanessaE |
already did my password. |
18:34 |
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18:34 |
lemonlake_ |
why do we need to update our passes? |
18:34 |
jp_ |
these white papers are more opaque normally, but not fully opaque |
18:34 |
luizrpgluiz |
hi |
18:34 |
ElectronLibre |
Hi. |
18:35 |
sfan5 |
-fnalerts/+#fnalerts- notice from tomaw seen by 19 connections: [Global Notice] Earlier today the freenode infra team noticed an anomaly on a single IRC server. We have identified that this was indicative of the server being compromised by an unknown third party. We immediately started an investigation to map the extent of the problem and located similar issues with several other machines and have taken those offline. For now, we |
18:35 |
sfan5 |
recommend that every change their NickServ password as a precaution. |
18:35 |
sfan5 |
^ lemonlake_ |
18:35 |
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18:35 |
lemonlake_ |
'by 19 connections' ? |
18:35 |
sfan5 |
just ignore that |
18:35 |
iqualfragile |
its kinda sad how they have to tell people how to change passwords |
18:35 |
lemonlake_ |
yep |
18:35 |
aldobr |
very ergonomic color for the topic |
18:36 |
aldobr |
ah its not a topic |
18:36 |
lemonlake_ |
lol |
18:36 |
lemonlake_ |
but it'd be a good colour, yes |
18:38 |
PenguinDad |
<3 that color |
18:38 |
Jordach |
AH MY EYES |
18:38 |
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18:38 |
Jordach |
cyan on white |
18:38 |
sfan5 |
!wiki Water |
18:38 |
MinetestBot |
"Water is an infinite liquid block that can only placed by player by using a bucket (or in creative mode)." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Water |
18:38 |
sfan5 |
^ PenguinDad: colors |
18:39 |
PenguinDad |
<3 these colors |
18:39 |
VanessaE |
blue on black! AH MY EYES! |
18:39 |
VanessaE |
:P |
18:39 |
VanessaE |
white background for IRC, indeed. heretic. |
18:39 |
VanessaE |
:) |
18:40 |
Jordach |
i can't be bothered to fix it |
18:40 |
Jordach |
...or just patch windows' theme engine |
18:40 |
Jordach |
and holy shit |
18:40 |
PenguinDad |
AH red MY on EYES! black! |
18:40 |
Jordach |
firefox just got a new connection reset look |
18:41 |
Jordach |
mmmmm Microsoft design https://cdn.mediacru.sh/VIMvlMS0iZpJ.png |
18:41 |
Jordach |
you can almost taste the nonfree design |
18:41 |
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18:41 |
Vazon |
is it possible to just rotate nodeboxes and not textures ??? it would be so much better with moreblocks and stairs becuase in spots you get texture rotation problems with builds |
18:41 |
VanessaE |
Vazon: no. |
18:42 |
PenguinDad |
Dat error page |
18:42 |
Vazon |
dang..... |
18:43 |
ElectronLibre |
Jordach : It's since the last update, very ugly... It's like that for every about:neterror.. |
18:44 |
ElectronLibre |
Firefox looks like Chromium now O_o. |
18:44 |
iqualfragile |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vRdudlgxSU |
18:44 |
* Jordach |
watches his system change design |
18:45 |
sfan5 |
!title |
18:45 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Spider Tarantula shedding skin - YouTube |
18:45 |
iqualfragile |
:D |
18:46 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: how about even more colors? <MinetestBot> [Git] sfan5 -> sfan5/minetestbot-modules: More improvements to the wiki module... 8f62db4 http://git.io/sKZngA (2014-09-13T20:43:38+02:00) |
18:46 |
VanessaE |
oh my |
18:46 |
jp_ |
iqualfragile : just horrible |
18:46 |
PenguinDad |
sfan5: looks nice imo |
18:47 |
sfan5 |
ikr |
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18:48 |
OldCoder |
ANNOUNCE: For those using my worlds, they will probably go down Sunday for a few days. This is related to the final leg of a server move. My server is now in Dallas, Texas and the final cables need to be hooked up. |
18:49 |
jp_ |
np, OldCoder. You can even close NYC, not much frequented. |
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18:49 |
OldCoder |
jp_, why would I shut down a work of art? |
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* OldCoder |
declines to do so and requests a little help in turning it into a museum |
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18:50 |
jp_ |
OldCoder : I have no time to manage this world for players. Doesn't really a matter if they only just to visit. |
18:51 |
jp_ |
only have* |
18:51 |
OldCoder |
I will not ask you to manage; that is the point |
18:51 |
OldCoder |
I expected this to begin with |
18:51 |
OldCoder |
You were the one who wished to try to make it playable. I feel that it will do well as a museum. |
18:51 |
jp_ |
ok, why not so |
18:51 |
OldCoder |
Perhaps a few final notes on the world after my server is set up again |
18:52 |
OldCoder |
You can manage the time for that |
18:52 |
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18:52 |
jp_ |
but there is a very small percentage of players who like the museums of cubes ;) |
18:53 |
* twoelk |
is often on server hopping tour |
18:53 |
OldCoder |
Am I to be concerned by this? Shall I let a world die? |
18:53 |
OldCoder |
Pripyat and New York City will live on |
18:54 |
jp_ |
only your choice, not mine ;) |
18:54 |
twoelk |
Pripyat is up again? |
18:54 |
OldCoder |
And your point is? Simply speak with me casually regarding the creation. |
18:54 |
OldCoder |
twoelk, No; it's been waiting for a server move |
18:54 |
OldCoder |
20 worlds will go up |
18:54 |
OldCoder |
Or at least a dozen |
18:55 |
twoelk |
I sort of missed the atmosphere of that one |
18:56 |
OldCoder |
Pripyat is good |
18:56 |
OldCoder |
A dead city will continue |
18:57 |
jp_ |
my point is that 99% of the newcomers at NYC stays around 100 nodes perimeter, I don't see what's useful to keep NYC from this observation. But feel free to keep it if you prefer. |
18:57 |
OldCoder |
100 nodes perimeter |
18:57 |
jp_ |
from spawn |
18:57 |
OldCoder |
Does this include the key buildings? |
18:58 |
twoelk |
actually with more interest from mc people to move to mt I think both Pripyat and NYC are important showcases on how to move content over to mt |
18:58 |
OldCoder |
I agree |
18:58 |
OldCoder |
I request nothing but documentation from the creators |
18:58 |
OldCoder |
Or, rather, adaptors |
18:58 |
OldCoder |
adapters? |
18:58 |
jp_ |
the key buildings ? each building deserves a visit as much as the buildings near spawn |
18:58 |
OldCoder |
jp_, then I will work on a catalog |
18:58 |
T4im |
i visited nyc a couple of days ago.. found a lot of bones everywhere.. eventually started to harm myself from falling damage while exploring.. was very impressed, but since theres nothing to heal, i decided to leave again, before becoming one of these many permanent bones laying around |
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18:59 |
OldCoder |
As I believe we discussed before |
18:59 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
18:59 |
OldCoder |
T4im, thank you for input |
18:59 |
jp_ |
the catalag is already did, OldCoder. See on my official NYC topic |
18:59 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
18:59 |
OldCoder |
I will feature it and others on new sites |
18:59 |
OldCoder |
These worlds *are* good examples |
19:00 |
OldCoder |
Related to mood as well as to technical issues |
19:00 |
twoelk |
no food in NYC? That sounds strange ;-P |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
We shall add it, then |
19:01 |
OldCoder |
Bagels and pastrami |
19:01 |
VanessaE |
no lox and cream cheese?! |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
Oh, of course |
19:02 |
twoelk |
wasn't there some burger mod somewhere? |
19:02 |
Krock |
how about hotdogs? |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
There shall be lox for the players of blocks |
19:02 |
VanessaE |
kaeza: Sabretts or Nathans? |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
hotdogs shall bark |
19:02 |
twoelk |
loxblocks? |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
Enough cream cheese to make you sneeze |
19:02 |
Krock |
hot dogs don't bark anymore |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
Yes! |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
Heh |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
loxblocks mod is needed |
19:02 |
VanessaE |
Krock: ^^^ |
19:02 |
OldCoder |
NYC style food |
19:03 |
Krock |
VanessaE, ailien style |
19:03 |
VanessaE |
tab complete FAIL |
19:03 |
OldCoder |
Alien Style will work for Moontest :P |
19:03 |
Krock |
true. |
19:03 |
OldCoder |
Where is that guy, anyway? He was going to put Moontest on my server |
19:03 |
VanessaE |
duno |
19:03 |
VanessaE |
+n |
19:03 |
Amaz |
OldCoder, I saw him yesterday. |
19:04 |
Amaz |
Would you like his emi |
19:04 |
PenguinDad |
And we need kitten like for meowtest :D |
19:04 |
Amaz |
*email? |
19:04 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
19:04 |
OldCoder |
To both |
19:04 |
Amaz |
Okay. |
19:04 |
OldCoder |
Actually |
19:04 |
OldCoder |
No time to email today |
19:04 |
Amaz |
Okay. |
19:04 |
OldCoder |
Tell him to see me if he wishes a world |
19:04 |
Amaz |
Will do. |
19:04 |
* OldCoder |
likes creative stuff |
19:05 |
* Krock |
remebers the IKEA Bookbook |
19:05 |
Krock |
*remembers |
19:05 |
OldCoder |
Bookbook?\ |
19:05 |
Krock |
OldCoder, there sohuld be a YT video about it |
19:05 |
Sokomine |
meowtest mostly needs rollback capabiltiy |
19:05 |
Sokomine |
hi :-) |
19:05 |
Krock |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOXQo7nURs0 |
19:05 |
T4im |
hi Sokomine \o/ |
19:05 |
Krock |
!title |
19:05 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: Experience the power of a bookbookâ„¢ - YouTube |
19:05 |
OldCoder |
It's for real? |
19:05 |
OldCoder |
Sokomine, hello |
19:06 |
Sokomine |
hi oldcoder |
19:06 |
twoelk |
hi |
19:06 |
Sokomine |
hi twoelk |
19:06 |
Sokomine |
i've mostly automaticly generated villages in local worlds lately or digged mindlessly somewhere :-) |
19:07 |
twoelk |
Sokomine the mindless minetest test digger? |
19:08 |
* Sokomine |
nods and experimentally diggs down |
19:08 |
twoelk |
hm, mindlessly test mining in minetest |
19:08 |
* Sokomine |
complains about not enough diamonds and mese found |
19:09 |
* Krock |
gives Sokomine /giveme |
19:09 |
* PenguinDad |
wants /pulverizeinv |
19:10 |
* Sokomine |
gives penguindad unified_inventory |
19:10 |
OldCoder |
There should be /lox as well |
19:10 |
twoelk |
lost some full slots of iron, mese, gold and other goodies on DLK in lava yesterday |
19:10 |
OldCoder |
and /kittens |
19:10 |
Sokomine |
twoelk: sounds bad |
19:10 |
Sokomine |
oldcoder: just put a bottle of milk on the channel, wait for some kittens to show up, and then grab them :-) |
19:10 |
OldCoder |
Very well |
19:11 |
twoelk |
not only kittens like milk ;-P |
19:11 |
PenguinDad |
Sokomine: that doesn't work in uncreative mode |
19:11 |
Calinou |
uncreative heh |
19:12 |
Sokomine |
uncreative...hm :) |
19:12 |
twoelk |
since when is survival uncreative? |
19:12 |
VanessaE |
survival "uncreative"?? D: |
19:13 |
Krock |
un-uncreative creative mode |
19:13 |
PenguinDad |
since when is creative mode disabled survival? |
19:13 |
Sokomine |
if you're bothered with survival, there's probably no spare time for art i guess :-) |
19:13 |
Sokomine |
perhaps that's why there are so many ugly boxes as "houses" everywhere |
19:13 |
twoelk |
ah but the art of survival may be creative |
19:14 |
Sokomine |
it might require a lot of creativity to survive on that strange server called "rl", yes :-) |
19:14 |
T4im |
maybe if cobble roofing and cobble walls would collapse on people, they would become more creative |
19:14 |
T4im |
:P |
19:14 |
Krock |
cobble roofs can look nice |
19:15 |
T4im |
yes.. what i actually meant was cooble ceilings, i suppose :p |
19:16 |
* twoelk |
knows somebody who did not understand the idea behind essential load bearing walls in real life. |
19:16 |
Sokomine |
hmm. if static comes into play, i'm afraid most great buildings would collapse |
19:16 |
Sokomine |
while it might not make much diffrence for those...huts...weather they have a roof or not |
19:17 |
twoelk |
hopefully Sokomine is not referring to real life |
19:18 |
T4im |
latly i saw some building that was lacking roof and walls alltogehter.. just a a cobble fundament and a homedecore toilette.. guess someone got his priorities straight |
19:19 |
Krock |
with a toilet, the house is almost completed |
19:19 |
twoelk |
a throne with a view, needs an attitude to sit there comfortably |
19:21 |
twoelk |
when I build toilets are sort of the last thing I squeeze in, maybe I should start with the important room |
19:21 |
T4im |
maybe the player was expecting further needs besides health, air and hunger in the gameplay *shrug* |
19:22 |
twoelk |
cool - use a toilet or explode |
19:23 |
twoelk |
we need other bones to document that |
19:27 |
aldobr |
i need help testing my mod |
19:28 |
aldobr |
can anybody load it into a internet accessible server ? |
19:28 |
Calinou |
which mod? link? |
19:28 |
T4im |
gotta share this company name xD https://prod.ceidg.gov.pl/CEIDG/ceidg.public.ui/SearchDetails.aspx?Id=e82735cd-bc2b-4ac0-8bac-a1dc54d8c013 |
19:29 |
aldobr |
https://www.dropbox.com/s/im6yjtrc2jku380/mint.rar?dl=0 |
19:29 |
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19:30 |
Sokomine |
what does your mod do, aldobr? i don't have a server. just curious |
19:32 |
PenguinDad |
> rar |
19:32 |
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19:34 |
aldobr |
money minting and bank functions |
19:34 |
aldobr |
it allows minting coin from gold ingots |
19:34 |
aldobr |
it adds two automatic commerce machines |
19:34 |
aldobr |
and two bank transaction machines to put and draw money from the bank |
19:34 |
aldobr |
plus it now has a bank transfer schedule system for recurrent payments |
19:35 |
aldobr |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4111&p=57541#p57541 |
19:35 |
aldobr |
i tested it single player |
19:35 |
aldobr |
but to test transfers i need a real server with monre than one player |
19:36 |
aldobr |
you can like program the payment of a rental or something similar, by programming a bank transfer transaction |
19:37 |
aldobr |
but i need at least two players to have at least two accounts |
19:37 |
aldobr |
hmmm |
19:37 |
aldobr |
forget it |
19:37 |
aldobr |
i can transfer to myself :P |
19:37 |
Krock |
aldobr, should I start a testing server? |
19:37 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/calmh/clonehub |
19:37 |
Calinou |
may be of some use to people here |
19:37 |
aldobr |
nope, i will test it here |
19:38 |
Krock |
k |
19:38 |
Krock |
aldobr, I think the people would be happy about a github repo |
19:39 |
aldobr |
i dont know how to use git |
19:39 |
aldobr |
:P |
19:39 |
Sokomine |
understandable. such things can best be tested on a real server |
19:40 |
Krock |
aldobr, it's easy after you got a GUI for it |
19:40 |
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19:40 |
* PenguinDad |
doesn't like git guis |
19:40 |
* ElectronLibre |
has to wait one hour to download a 10min mp4 video... o.o |
19:40 |
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19:40 |
* Amaz |
hates git guis |
19:40 |
* Krock |
loves git guis |
19:41 |
Calinou |
http://gitorious.org/ |
19:41 |
Amaz |
Git command line FTW! |
19:41 |
Krock |
I still wouldn't understand git if I wouldn't use TortoiseGit.. |
19:41 |
* ElectronLibre |
prefers console commands but don't hates git guis |
19:41 |
PenguinDad |
<3 Git cli |
19:41 |
Calinou |
TortoiseGit uses a lot of SVN paradigms |
19:41 |
Calinou |
because it's based on TortoiseSVN pretty much |
19:41 |
* Krock |
steals an 's' from ElectronLibre |
19:41 |
Calinou |
there's at least 5 Tortoise* software |
19:42 |
Krock |
Calinou, bad, good or just fact? |
19:42 |
PenguinDad |
Is there TortoiseTortoise? |
19:42 |
Krock |
TortoisePeriod. |
19:42 |
Calinou |
Krock, can be bad sometimes |
19:42 |
Calinou |
try using the GIT CLI someday |
19:43 |
Calinou |
it's available if you have TortoiseGIT, as you have http://msysgit.github.io/ already |
19:43 |
* ElectronLibre |
doesn't understand why Krock stole him a "s". |
19:43 |
ElectronLibre |
Ho, i see. |
19:43 |
Krock |
* ElectronLibre prefers console commands but don't hate,05s |
19:44 |
Jordach |
Calinou, convert to the CLI and it's like mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
19:44 |
ElectronLibre |
*but doesn't hate Gui no? Or I've just to put one third-person's "S" in a sentence? |
19:44 |
Krock |
Calinou, possibly I'll use that in 5 years when I know all of those commands :3 |
19:45 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: you're slow at learning :p |
19:45 |
Krock |
ElectronLibre, I also could move an 's' and add an 'e' instead of removing an 's' |
19:45 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, that happens when I just press buttons |
19:45 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok, I see. Thank you for correcting me :). |
19:45 |
Krock |
np. |
19:46 |
joseph_ |
It works great now. Thanks for help. |
19:46 |
* Krock |
,01got a ,01#grammarnazi ,01flag |
19:46 |
ElectronLibre |
Yes, I saw were was the error. My english is not very good... |
19:46 |
PenguinDad |
Kill it with fire! |
19:46 |
Krock |
,07Fire fire fire |
19:47 |
ElectronLibre |
Witch Hunt is open. |
19:47 |
* ElectronLibre |
flee at Salem. |
19:48 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/759/339/946.jpg |
19:48 |
Krock |
+1 |
19:48 |
ElectronLibre |
*flees... I prefer stop writing to do less errors.. |
19:49 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, is that the source of "This is a ..... . It ... .."? |
19:49 |
Krock |
eh. hard understandble |
19:50 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: kinda |
19:50 |
Krock |
k |
19:51 |
Krock |
!doge |
19:51 |
MinetestBot |
DOGE is at 0.00000053 BTC |
19:51 |
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19:51 |
PenguinDad |
!doge |
19:51 |
MinetestBot |
DOGE is at 0.00000053 BTC |
19:51 |
Krock |
it didn't change. |
19:52 |
PenguinDad |
It didn't change. |
19:52 |
Krock |
but this did. caps. |
19:52 |
ElectronLibre |
What's the "DOGE"? |
19:52 |
Calinou |
I've never used a GIT GUI, really |
19:53 |
Krock |
ElectronLibre, check it out:!doge |
19:53 |
ElectronLibre |
!doge |
19:53 |
MinetestBot |
http://i.imgur.com/QIqDXZw.gif |
19:54 |
ElectronLibre |
What the hell is that? A random-choosed image on imgur? |
19:54 |
Krock |
yes, doge. |
19:54 |
Krock |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/shortutils.py |
19:55 |
PenguinDad |
It's the egod! |
19:56 |
ElectronLibre |
O_o |
19:56 |
PenguinDad |
!rev egod! |
19:56 |
MinetestBot |
!doge |
19:56 |
ElectronLibre |
!rev .ees I .kO |
19:56 |
MinetestBot |
Ok. I see. |
19:57 |
ElectronLibre |
I really love these bots :D |
19:58 |
Krock |
Krock: !doge |
19:58 |
Krock |
https://pp.vk.me/c607929/v607929263/624e/K6NMxz0Cj7U.jpg |
19:59 |
ElectronLibre |
O_o |
19:59 |
PenguinDad |
V frr jung lbh qvq gurer. |
19:59 |
sfan5 |
!doge |
19:59 |
MinetestBot |
DOGE is at 0.00000054 BTC |
19:59 |
sfan5 |
aw |
19:59 |
sfan5 |
!doge |
19:59 |
MinetestBot |
http://25.media.tumblr.com/5b1de230c236cbc6310ae000e1a5cdc2/tumblr_mu7uxmD9i31rdj00zo1_500.jpg |
19:59 |
Krock |
http://windoge.com/ |
19:59 |
ElectronLibre |
O_O |
19:59 |
sfan5 |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/shortutils.py#L81 |
20:00 |
Krock |
sfan5, your today's task. |
20:00 |
ElectronLibre |
Who the hell is this dog? O_O |
20:01 |
e1z0 |
lol |
20:01 |
sfan5 |
ElectronLibre: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=doge&defid=7315305 |
20:01 |
aldobr |
any mailbox mod around ? |
20:01 |
Krock |
aldobr, many. |
20:01 |
aldobr |
i have a lua doubt. how to expose my mod functionality to other mods ? |
20:02 |
Krock |
aldobr, http://nimg.pf-control.de/MTstuff/modSearch.php?st=0&at=0&q=mail |
20:02 |
aldobr |
i have the money transfer system in place, can other mods add events to my system ? |
20:02 |
jin_xi |
anticheat gives a fine if you move too fast |
20:02 |
aldobr |
like, a node protection mod that automatically prograns rentals ? |
20:02 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok... Doge is a dog... I see... |
20:02 |
* ElectronLibre |
goes to a mental hospital :x |
20:03 |
sfan5 |
!cat |
20:03 |
MinetestBot |
http://i.imgur.com/fVK8nca.jpg |
20:03 |
sfan5 |
^ ElectronLibre |
20:04 |
ElectronLibre |
Two solutions : 1- All the internet is become crazy, including me 2- I'm the only people who can understand the interest of cute cats pictures °_°.. |
20:04 |
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20:05 |
Krock |
meow? |
20:06 |
* ElectronLibre |
meows at Krock |
20:06 |
sfan5 |
ElectronLibre: do !cat, there are more |
20:06 |
ElectronLibre |
!cat |
20:06 |
MinetestBot |
http://i.imgur.com/ERebecg.jpg |
20:07 |
ElectronLibre |
Oook... |
20:07 |
Krock |
ElectronLibre, http://data8.lustich.de/bilder/l/30509-meow-so-ernst.jpg |
20:07 |
PenguinDad |
Krock: http://global3.memecdn.com/a-wild-doge-appeared_o_2838387.jpg :D |
20:08 |
ElectronLibre |
Ah!! The joker-cat!! |
20:08 |
Krock |
PenguinDad, and 8-bit sounds in background.. |
20:08 |
Krock |
http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/167/2/f/meow_i_m_a_cow_by_trollpeco-d69bvj5.jpg |
20:09 |
Krock |
^ PenguinDad |
20:09 |
luizrpgluiz |
anyone have any mod worlds generator? |
20:09 |
Krock |
mapgen? |
20:09 |
ElectronLibre |
Nyan fish 0_0 |
20:09 |
luizrpgluiz |
yes |
20:10 |
Krock |
luizrpgluiz, it starts with ya and ends with pee |
20:10 |
luizrpgluiz |
pee??? |
20:10 |
Krock |
*ppy |
20:10 |
ElectronLibre |
yapee. |
20:11 |
PenguinDad |
eee​w |
20:11 |
Krock |
also, see here: http://nimg.pf-control.de/MTstuff/modSearch.php?q=mapgen 20 results |
20:11 |
Krock |
^ luizrpgluiz |
20:11 |
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20:11 |
Krock |
john_minetest, I don't get it. |
20:11 |
Krock |
only cookies make those sounds |
20:12 |
Krock |
I see. Grandma is gonna bake some fish |
20:12 |
Krock |
0.3 per second |
20:13 |
Krock |
not a fishy clicker. that's fishy. a fish clicker is better |
20:14 |
Krock |
fishing |
20:18 |
aldobr |
well if i keep adding thing to that mod, servers will need dedicated economist moderators :P |
20:18 |
aldobr |
*things |
20:19 |
* Krock |
likes simple money and shops |
20:20 |
Krock |
sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/ZSrIFMC.gif |
20:22 |
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20:25 |
* twoelk |
is of to attempt to retrieve the valuable bones of his former self on the barren plains of the just-test server |
20:34 |
Megaf |
Hi all, with this new minetest_game I can no longer plant wheat and cotton seeds |
20:34 |
ElectronLibre |
Did you try on a world generated in 0.4.10? |
20:35 |
Megaf |
no... |
20:35 |
ElectronLibre |
I've got the same problem on an aera generated in 0.4.9 and previous, but in 0.4.10 it works perfectly. I don't kown why... I just hope every servers won't not need to change their map. |
20:36 |
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20:37 |
Megaf |
I just shuted it down |
20:37 |
ElectronLibre |
I throught it was the add of the heat and the humidity in the node metadata.. When farming can't found them in a 0.4.9-generated aera, it can't put seeds. |
20:37 |
Megaf |
I got rid of this new minetest_game, I hate it |
20:37 |
Megaf |
Im back to my custom game |
20:37 |
ElectronLibre |
Technicaly... It's NeXT game... |
20:38 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
20:38 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 1280ms |
20:38 |
Megaf |
john_minetest: were you online? |
20:39 |
ElectronLibre |
It's because of that there is TNT mod (a big mistake for building servers...). |
20:39 |
Megaf |
because you asked about it a second after I shuted it down |
20:39 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: I removed it |
20:39 |
ElectronLibre |
Good. |
20:39 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: I always disable things like screwdriver, fire, buckets and tnt |
20:39 |
ElectronLibre |
TNT isn't stable, I still destroyed buildings with it because of an entify bugs... |
20:40 |
Megaf |
ElectronLibre: that thing makes me mad with minetest |
20:40 |
Megaf |
they release quite unstable stuff |
20:40 |
Megaf |
theres no one in charge of decisions or anything |
20:40 |
Megaf |
its not stable at all |
20:40 |
ElectronLibre |
*entity Buckets and Screwdriver could be useful, but if you want :). Whe should choose what mods we want to enable even in the game itself. |
20:41 |
proller |
in freeminer now wet weather extinguishes fires ;) |
20:42 |
Jordach |
SHUT THE FUCK UP |
20:42 |
Jordach |
0% in this channel cares |
20:43 |
Megaf |
why isnt proller banned already? |
20:45 |
proller |
Jordach, you looks raped |
20:45 |
PenguinDad |
Because Tree 8) |
20:46 |
Megaf |
!server Megaf |
20:46 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 4/9, 2/4 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 954ms |
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Jordach |
proller, tl;dr i can beat C level features |
20:46 |
shadowzone |
Hi Jordach. |
20:48 |
proller |
Jordach, but its not c level |
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21:00 |
jordan4ibanez |
How do I update a formspec? |
21:01 |
jordan4ibanez |
So there's a lot less lag |
21:01 |
ElectronLibre |
Dig the node --> place the node. The new formspec is in it :). |
21:03 |
jordan4ibanez |
lol update_map() every time someone places or takes or a new formspec is created |
21:05 |
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21:08 |
* Jordach |
grabs a copy of Debian |
21:09 |
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21:10 |
shadowzone |
o.O |
21:10 |
ElectronLibre |
What? |
21:18 |
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21:21 |
* ElectronLibre |
thinks that when his compiling of minetest fails... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Fv7Hqy1Vo |
21:24 |
ElectronLibre |
Everybody is lefting the chan? |
21:24 |
ElectronLibre |
Bye john. |
21:29 |
Megaf |
[22:08:41] -*- Jordach grabs a copy of Debian |
21:30 |
Megaf |
Jordach: well done, count on me for any help |
21:30 |
Jordach |
and that;s if my APU likes the kernel |
21:30 |
Jordach |
it bitches with very recent X11 updates and fights fgrlx greatly (the one built in) |
21:31 |
Jordach |
until I switch to a proper GPU i'm stuck |
21:31 |
Megaf |
Ok, I think you will have to use the driver from AMD |
21:31 |
Megaf |
before proceding to install them first install build-essential and dkms |
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21:33 |
Megaf |
[22:31:16] <Megaf> Ok, I think you will have to use the driver from AMD |
21:33 |
Megaf |
[22:31:56] <Megaf> before proceding to install them first install build-essential and dkms |
21:34 |
Megaf |
Jordach_: also install firmware-linux-nonfree and firmware-linux-free |
21:34 |
Jordach_ |
Megaf, latest Ubuntu grants black screens in seconds |
21:34 |
Megaf |
so again, firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-linux-free build-essential dkms |
21:35 |
Megaf |
with those 4 packages installed you are good to go to get the Catalyst driver from AMDs website |
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Megaf |
Jordach_: Yep, lots of problems with Ubuntu |
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Jordach_ |
Megaf, i had to use 13.10 because that ran fine |
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Jordach_ |
installed driver + non-free with dist-upg = dead |
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selah |
o.O |
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selah |
What just happen? |
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TheShadowZone12 |
Can you kick shadowzone? |
21:43 |
Jordach |
bloody ghosts |
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hisforever |
how do I Make the grow Lights over Guardens? |
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hisforever |
how do I Make the grow Lights over Guardens? |
21:46 |
ElectronLibre |
Ho no, a netsplit... |
21:47 |
shadowzone |
I just *.net *.split. |
21:47 |
ElectronLibre |
The Guardens? Don't you mean the gardens? |
21:47 |
PenguinDad |
Guardians? |
21:48 |
hisforever |
yes Gardens sorry for typo |
21:48 |
ElectronLibre |
To grow light... add some torches. |
21:48 |
ElectronLibre |
If you meant "add" light. |
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hisforever |
ok ty but an admin put lights over my guarden for me and I just was woundering what shape they |
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hisforever |
were |
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ElectronLibre |
Ok :). |
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lemonlake_ |
would anyone know why luaentity screws me over? |
21:54 |
lemonlake_ |
it errors on line 329 or something with add entity |
21:54 |
lemonlake_ |
no details |
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ElectronLibre |
°_° |
21:55 |
ElectronLibre |
Comment the line, or see in debut.txt. |
21:55 |
lemonlake_ |
its a vital line |
21:55 |
lemonlake_ |
if i comment it nothing will work at all |
21:55 |
jordan4ibanez |
sfan5: how do you update a block? |
21:55 |
lemonlake_ |
plus its not even my code |
21:55 |
lemonlake_ |
idk who wrote it |
21:56 |
lemonlake_ |
probably nore or something |
21:56 |
sfan5 |
jordan4ibanez: update? |
21:56 |
ElectronLibre |
Can you read in debug.txt what is the exact error or you've already done this? |
21:56 |
lemonlake_ |
that's it |
21:57 |
lemonlake_ |
it occurs when i throw an item onto my conveyor belts |
21:57 |
lemonlake_ |
in other words, on entity creation |
21:57 |
jordan4ibanez |
Yes, like the voxel manipulator updates a chunk, only with a single block |
21:58 |
lemonlake_ |
https://bitbucket.org/LemonLake/factory/src/master/belt.lua?at=master#cl-44 |
21:58 |
lemonlake_ |
from that line and below |
22:02 |
* ElectronLibre |
is loading the page... |
22:02 |
lemonlake_ |
apparently _add_entity is a nil value |
22:02 |
lemonlake_ |
but i can confirm it does exist and it has worked before |
22:02 |
lemonlake_ |
(this addentity call is inside luaentity.lua) |
22:02 |
ElectronLibre |
add_entity or _add_entity? |
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lemonlake_ |
_add_entity |
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ElectronLibre |
Which line? |
22:03 |
lemonlake_ |
the error is at #329 |
22:03 |
lemonlake_ |
in luaentity.lua |
22:03 |
ElectronLibre |
builtin/luaentity.lua? |
22:04 |
lemonlake_ |
nein, my own |
22:04 |
lemonlake_ |
well, its not even mine but you get the point |
22:04 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok. |
22:04 |
ElectronLibre |
So belt/luaentity.lua? |
22:04 |
lemonlake_ |
factory/luaentity.lua |
22:04 |
ElectronLibre |
Yes, right. |
22:05 |
ElectronLibre |
Can you send me a paste of the error? |
22:06 |
jordan4ibanez |
I just don't understand why minetest can only hand 64k items |
22:07 |
lemonlake_ |
well my debug.txt is hidden somewhere |
22:07 |
lemonlake_ |
and i cant figure out how to copy from xterm |
22:07 |
lemonlake_ |
so give me a minute |
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jordan4ibanez |
Like I get there's a hard int limit in c++, but you can convert int to str and then break up the numbers into individual ints and then create a calc function to individually add and cary over, then add to the final str to get a higher value than 64k |
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lemonlake_ |
http://0bin.net/paste/TpKRwcpFGt+9Z24X#9NnnkbIZrKO3FZt8kcMKyTuKPi0vsUoJPAW-B4lesLd |
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lemonlake_ |
wtf |
22:14 |
lemonlake_ |
freenode |
22:14 |
lemonlake_ |
y u shit pants |
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PenguinDad |
Poor pipes :'( |
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lemonlake_ |
is this by any chance related to the hacking? |
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lemonlake_ |
ElectronLibre: http://0bin.net/paste/TpKRwcpFGt+9Z24X#9NnnkbIZrKO3FZt8kcMKyTuKPi0vsUoJPAW-B4lesLd |
22:15 |
ElectronLibre |
I'm back... got a crash.. |
22:15 |
ElectronLibre |
Thank you. |
22:16 |
ElectronLibre |
Ho no... not again this.. |
22:16 |
ElectronLibre |
Was this mod written with minetest-0.4.10? |
22:17 |
lemonlake_ |
yes |
22:17 |
lemonlake_ |
latest sfan5 build |
22:17 |
lemonlake_ |
no |
22:17 |
lemonlake_ |
latest build, im on linux |
22:17 |
* lemonlake_ |
slaps self |
22:17 |
ElectronLibre |
Does it depends of Inventory_plus? |
22:17 |
* sfan5 |
meows at lemonlake_ |
22:17 |
lemonlake_ |
it doesnt depend on anything |
22:18 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok. |
22:18 |
lemonlake_ |
i dont even remember why im using luaentity |
22:18 |
lemonlake_ |
its been ages |
22:18 |
ElectronLibre |
I can't see what is the function "?" but I've already seen this kind of errors. Some functions, fields, become ?. |
22:19 |
lemonlake_ |
this is most likely being called from the game itself |
22:19 |
lemonlake_ |
and thus it doesn't have a stack trace |
22:19 |
lemonlake_ |
my problem is something in entity creation is going wrong, causing luaentity to freak out |
22:19 |
ElectronLibre |
It's the only time it's called? |
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lemonlake_ |
i wouldn't know |
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ElectronLibre |
Sfan5, is it the only time it's called in every files of the mods? |
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sfan5 |
don't ask me things I'm busy |
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lemonlake_ |
lol |
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ElectronLibre |
*mod Because I don't really want to modify the builtin. |
22:20 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok sfan5. |
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PenguinDad |
ElectronLibre: The function is ? because it's an anonymous function |
22:23 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok I see. |
22:24 |
ElectronLibre |
lemonlake_, do you know where the function is defined? |
22:26 |
lemonlake_ |
luaentity.lua |
22:26 |
lemonlake_ |
look at it |
22:26 |
lemonlake_ |
wait |
22:27 |
lemonlake_ |
ahh |
22:27 |
lemonlake_ |
the bug is a pipeworks conflict |
22:27 |
ElectronLibre |
NetSplit. I can see it :). |
22:30 |
PenguinDad |
Ceiling cat wanted the nets be split for ze lulz :D |
22:30 |
ElectronLibre |
Did you try entitydef_default[_add_loaded]()...? |
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sfan5 |
!op sfan5 Jordach VanessaE_ ShadowNinja |
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Jordach |
meow? |
22:31 |
sfan5 |
meow |
22:31 |
sfan5 |
because netsplits |
22:31 |
sfan5 |
like half of the freenode servers are down |
22:32 |
ElectronLibre |
Ho no... |
22:32 |
sfan5 |
not even joking |
22:32 |
ElectronLibre |
Why do you become op? |
22:32 |
sfan5 |
20 down/15 up |
22:32 |
sfan5 |
why? |
22:32 |
ElectronLibre |
Ho no... What the hell is going on?! |
22:33 |
sfan5 |
in case the services split |
22:33 |
sfan5 |
so someone can get op if needed |
22:33 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok, I see. |
22:33 |
lemonlake_ |
Is there a way I can make my mod load pipeworks first IF pipeworks exists? |
22:33 |
ElectronLibre |
Depends. |
22:33 |
ElectronLibre |
*dependencies |
22:33 |
lemonlake_ |
Well yes, I know that |
22:34 |
lemonlake_ |
Is there soft depend? |
22:34 |
ElectronLibre |
Or, at the beginning, if minetest.getmodpath("pipeworks") ~= nil then return end |
22:34 |
PenguinDad |
lemonlake_: just add "pipeworks?" to your depends.txt |
22:34 |
lemonlake_ |
ah, i put the question mark wrong |
22:34 |
lemonlake_ |
still acting up... |
22:35 |
ElectronLibre |
Sfan5, how do you know the number of servers up and down? |
22:35 |
sfan5 |
ElectronLibre: a monitoring thing called fnalerts |
22:35 |
ElectronLibre |
An external program? |
22:35 |
lemonlake_ |
no |
22:35 |
sfan5 |
yes |
22:35 |
lemonlake_ |
its a chan |
22:35 |
sfan5 |
basically+ |
22:35 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok. |
22:35 |
sfan5 |
well yes |
22:35 |
sfan5 |
lemonlake_ is correct |
22:35 |
lemonlake_ |
#fnalerts |
22:36 |
ElectronLibre |
It's free to join? |
22:36 |
lemonlake_ |
yea |
22:36 |
ElectronLibre |
Ok. |
22:36 |
lemonlake_ |
they send you notices iirc |
22:36 |
sfan5 |
ElectronLibre: you can only see the notices if you are a trusted user |
22:36 |
sfan5 |
it takes a bit of time to get that status |
22:36 |
ElectronLibre |
Trusted = registered? |
22:37 |
lemonlake_ |
i see |
22:38 |
ElectronLibre |
Ho my... FreeNode is about dying? |
22:38 |
sfan5 |
no |
22:40 |
ElectronLibre |
So we have just to wait...? |
22:41 |
lemonlake_ |
pretty much |
22:41 |
sfan5 |
wait for what? |
22:41 |
lemonlake_ |
okay, it seems that when pipeworks is using it's own luaentity.lua, nothing works |
22:41 |
blaaaaargh |
WTH freenode |
22:42 |
lemonlake_ |
however what gets me is that they're precisely the same files |
22:42 |
ElectronLibre |
For the servers restart. |
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PenguinDad |
lemonlake_: do you load the luaentity.lua file even when pipeworks was found? |
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lemonlake_ |
PenguinDad: nope |
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lemonlake_ |
http://0bin.net/paste/H91sbPIG0y4x8IIX#MczCA0pxTbq9SA2fCS4wGjfrOXtz0FiT57idsIDKhLb |
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PenguinDad |
lemonlake_: what happens when you comment out the dofile(minetest.get_modpath("pipeworks") .. "/luaentity.lua") |
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lemonlake_ |
PenguinDad: luaentity is a nil value if pipeworks is enabled |
23:06 |
PenguinDad |
WTF? |
23:06 |
* PenguinDad |
goes to sleep |
23:06 |
lemonlake_ |
it's kinda expected |
23:07 |
lemonlake_ |
because luaentity is not being defined anywhere |
23:10 |
PenguinDad |
lemonlake_: pipeworks seems to load that file https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/blob/master/init.lua#L113 |
23:10 |
lemonlake_ |
it does |
23:10 |
lemonlake_ |
oh wait... |
23:10 |
lemonlake_ |
yeah that is weird |
23:11 |
lemonlake_ |
because at entity creation all mods are loaded |
23:30 |
lemonlake_ |
it happens again |
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* ElectronLibre |
is tired... He go to bed.. |
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ElectronLibre |
Bye everyone. |
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lemonlake_ |
anyone else got any ideas? |
23:55 |
lemonlake_ |
all bugs fixed. woop woop |
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blaise |
is there a projected feature list for minetest-0.4.11 ? |