Time  Nick            Message
00:13 EvergreenTree   Can someone delete all the spam that has flooded the forums?
00:13 EvergreenTree   I haven't seen this much spam botting in a long time
00:13 * EvergreenTree pokes VanessaE
00:13 VanessaE        ow.
00:14 EvergreenTree   Sorry, just had to get your attention
00:14 EvergreenTree   :P
00:14 VanessaE        got links to the spam?
00:14 VanessaE        I don't read the forums regularly anymore
00:14 EvergreenTree   just look at general discussion
00:14 EvergreenTree   tons of it
00:14 EvergreenTree   well, mostly by one person
00:14 EvergreenTree   "zandra"
00:15 EvergreenTree   there are also a few by "dfzxdgzd"
00:15 VanessaE        working on it...
00:15 EvergreenTree   Thank you.
00:15 EvergreenTree   dfzxdgzd's spam has been up for quite a while now
00:15 EvergreenTree   not sure how other moderators missed it
00:21 VanessaE        ok, any others?
00:21 EvergreenTree   nope
00:21 EvergreenTree   Thanks
00:21 EvergreenTree   :-)
00:22 VanessaE        no prob.
00:37 LinuxGuy2020    I just got a matching pair of 22" monitors and I stretched the minetest window accross the two and the game "camera" seems distorted on the sides of the screen like its rendering for single screen or something. Are there any tweaks or settings to help it look a bit better when rotating and moving around?
01:12 h4iku           Anyone knows Megaf, the admin of megaf.minetest.info?
01:15 Wings           Aww
01:15 Wings           i went to th wrong one
01:15 Wings           The*
01:15 Wings           Well, bye
01:36 luizrpgluiz     hi
01:46 hmmmm           LinuxGuy2020, you might want to increase the FOV using the 'fov' config setting
02:07 Vazon           how do you check if a player has a priv???
02:39 blaise          Vazon: /privs <name>
02:40 Vazon           blaise: xD i ment threw lua
02:50 Miner_48er      minetest.check_player_privs
02:50 Miner_48er      Vazon ^
02:52 Vazon           Miner_48er: thanks
03:13 LinuxGuy2020    hmmmm: I looked through the man page and didnt see any reference to the fov setting or default value. Where can I find the default or see all config options available?
03:14 hmmmm           LinuxGuy2020:  In minetest.conf.example
03:14 LinuxGuy2020    hmmmm: perfect thank you
03:14 hmmmm           np
08:09 Megaf           VanessaE: well, I let my server resting overnight and still at 100%
08:09 Megaf           Lua controller or minetest itself should have a way to self protect itself
08:10 Megaf           Ok, I think it actually shuted down
08:28 Megaf           so, is this a bug on pipeworks or on built in item? http://paste.debian.net/119842/
09:12 Megaf           Hi
10:22 sfan5           hello everyone
10:26 Megaf           Hey sfan5
10:26 Megaf           how are things?
10:27 sfan5           good
10:27 sfan5           except that rsyslogd on servers.minetest.net just committed suicide
10:30 Megaf           lol, that cant be good
11:18 sfan5           john_minetest: ask iqualfragile, he'd done work on thgat
11:18 sfan5           that*
12:00 meldrian        Hellooo
12:48 Megaf           and Im still looking for a skin mod that works
12:49 Megaf           those shell scripts wont work on my server
12:50 Megaf           hm
12:50 Megaf           Thats the problem
12:50 Megaf           is a headless server, no graphical stuff
12:51 Megaf           john_minetest: can you tell me a server that is using that mod so I can see it?
12:53 Megaf           well, I have to go
12:53 Megaf           thanks john_minetest, bye all
13:14 JTE_            I like that one. :3
13:18 sfan5           john_minetest: ask, not look at his repos
13:25 * sfan5         curls up to john_minetest's lap
13:26 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((-<
13:30 * sfan5         noms the fish
13:47 jp_             when you create several pull requests on a file, does they will be auto-placed by following lines, or each pull requests can overwrite the previous merged ?
13:49 jp_             damn
14:23 CraigyDavi      Anyone know why this doesn't work? https://gist.github.com/CraigyDavi/96eb44613db9dcfe589f It comes up with the error `register_stair_and_slab` is a nil value.
14:25 sfan5           CraigyDavi: remove the "stairs = {}"
14:25 sfan5           also you need to depend on the stairs mod
14:26 sfan5           and replace "if minetest.get_modpath("stairs") then" with "if stairs then"
14:26 sfan5           CraigyDavi: what do you think "stairs = {}" does?
14:27 CraigyDavi      Thanks sfan5, have sorted it out now
14:28 sfan5           CraigyDavi: what did you think "stairs = {}" does?
14:28 CraigyDavi      Not sure, it was there in the original mod and I've seen other mods do it too, to be honest I have no idea.
14:28 sfan5           I've seen other mods do it too
14:28 sfan5           o.O
14:29 sfan5           stairs = {} sets the global variable 'stairs' to an empty table
14:29 sfan5           so it practically destroys the functionality of the stairs mod
14:29 sfan5           for that mod and all mods that load after it
14:30 CraigyDavi      Hmm that is silly
14:30 sfan5           in which mods did you see that?
14:31 CraigyDavi      Don't know, I'll try find one
15:50 realtinymonster Hi!
15:51 realtinymonster did you guys know that I hate NVIDIA for making broken drivers?
15:52 sfan5           no
15:53 realtinymonster well, I do
15:53 realtinymonster I spent all day yesterday trying to get drivers for my graphics cards so I could play minetest
15:54 sfan5           which distro?
15:54 realtinymonster and I found several, but none of them worked...
15:54 realtinymonster heh
15:54 sfan5           windows?
15:55 realtinymonster Windows Vista SP2 (ick...)
15:55 sfan5           how about you use the official driver?
15:55 realtinymonster I di
15:55 realtinymonster d
15:55 sfan5           the correct one?
15:55 realtinymonster I tried all the versions of the specific driver since '06
15:56 realtinymonster it fails a third way through the install
15:58 * PenguinDad    hands realtinymonster an archlinux iso
15:59 sfan5           ^
16:00 realtinymonster :/
16:00 realtinymonster Linux doesn't have 3 things that I need
16:01 realtinymonster 1. A good screen recorder
16:01 realtinymonster 2. Support by game companies
16:02 sfan5           1. recordmydesktop or just use raw ffmpeg
16:02 sfan5           2. steam?
16:02 Jordach         realtinymonster, valvE
16:02 realtinymonster really?
16:02 Jordach         (i honestly forgot the spelling)
16:02 realtinymonster just wow
16:03 realtinymonster recordmydesktop is slooooow
16:03 PenguinDad      realtinymonster: have you tried ssr?
16:03 sfan5           then use raw ffmpeg
16:03 realtinymonster ssr?
16:03 Jordach         there are several games on my Steam Lib that'll play on SteamOS
16:03 realtinymonster ^ PenguinDad
16:04 PenguinDad      realtinymonster: http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/ https://github.com/MaartenBaert/ssr
16:05 realtinymonster hmm
16:06 realtinymonster looks promising
16:06 sfan5           ffmpeg -f alsa -i pulse -f x11grab -s <screen size> -i + -v:c libx264 -v:a copy -crf 0 -preset ultrafast record.nut; ffmpeg -i record.nut -c:v libx264 -crf 21 -tune film -c:a libfdk_aac -b:a 256k -movflags +faststart out.mp4; rm record.nut
16:06 sfan5           there yo have your recording solution
16:06 realtinymonster can you have ffmpeg grab windows?
16:06 sfan5           not directly
16:06 sfan5           but you can make it grab the area for a window
16:06 sfan5           want a script?
16:06 realtinymonster yeah, would be nice :D
16:07 realtinymonster I heard that archlinux doesn't use RPM or DEB, but something different... True?
16:09 sfan5           yes
16:09 realtinymonster what does it use?
16:10 sfan5           pkg.tar.xz
16:10 realtinymonster interesting...
16:14 realtinymonster now you guys are making me wish I had a space CD for archlinux...
16:14 realtinymonster :P
16:19 sfan5           realtinymonster: https://gist.github.com/sfan5/8b80bf332ab9066eb3e2
16:19 sfan5           records sound too
16:19 sfan5           the sound of your mic by default
16:19 realtinymonster nice
16:20 sfan5           but can record what you hear too if you config the source in pavucontrol
16:20 realtinymonster oh ok
16:20 realtinymonster thanks sir :D
16:50 hisforever      Hi everybodty I need some clay do I make clay with water and dirt?
16:52 away            you make clay by digging clay
16:52 jp_             http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Clay
16:52 hisforever      ty jp
17:01 Xack            away: lol
17:05 Krock           'ello peopel
17:05 sfan5           !wiki Clay
17:05 MinetestBot     "Clay can be found on 12sand beaches (under12water)." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Clay
17:05 Krock           omg. sand is blue
17:06 Krock           omg water is blue. sky too. wow. amaze. such blue.
17:06 sfan5           I wonder why
17:06 Krock           I wonder how, looging into the blue blue sky..
17:06 Krock           !g Lemon Tree
17:06 MinetestBot     Krock: http://www.lemontree.com/
17:07 Krock           !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va0vs1fhhNI
17:07 MinetestBot     Krock: Lemon Tree - Fools Garden - YouTube
17:13 rubenwardy      Hi all!
17:14 Krock           hi rubenwardy
17:15 * rubenwardy    is installing ruby on rails
17:15 * Krock         wonders why rubenwardy is doing that
17:16 * rubenwardy    wants to learn how to use ruby on rails
17:16 * PenguinDad    hugs rubenwardy
17:16 * Krock         gives rubenwardy brainf**k
17:16 rubenwardy      lol
17:18 PenguinDad      Krock: s/**/??/ :P
17:19 Krock           PenguinDad: "brainf".(censored?'?':'u').(censored?'?':'c')."k"
17:20 PenguinDad      s/??/../ now it's correct :/
17:20 Krock           wut?
17:20 Krock           pseudocode, you know.
17:21 PenguinDad      Krock: regexes
17:22 sfan5           we did that too, john_minetest
17:22 PenguinDad      john_minetest: Did anyone drop the bass? ;D
17:23 Krock           john_minetest, I also could learn some simple guitar accords
17:29 PenguinDad      lol
17:29 PenguinDad      lol
17:30 Krock           lol-
17:30 Krock           lol
17:30 PenguinDad      I summon entropy!
17:33 * Krock         tells the people about using his minetest server address + port {convertDecfromHex(F07A)}
17:33 PenguinDad      :>
17:33 * Krock         wonders which mods heshould test today
17:39 Krock           john_minetest, me too. about 900 if I want them all
17:39 sfan5           !c int("f07a", 16)
17:39 MinetestBot     61562
17:40 sfan5           ‬!up minetest.ntdll.net 61562
17:40 Krock           sfan5, eww. head-calculating!
17:40 sfan5           ‬!up minetest.ntdll.net 61562
17:40 sfan5           MinetestBot!
17:40 MinetestBot     sfan5!
17:40 Krock           sfan5, 1st letter is a square
17:41 sfan5           what?
17:41 sfan5           !up minetest.ntdll.net 61562
17:41 MinetestBot     minetest.ntdll.net:61562 is up (83ms)
17:41 sfan5           o.O
17:41 Krock           john_minetest, well, it's a testing server, so no_guests and areas will be not needed. already got unified_inventory and WE
17:41 Krock           uuuh. 83ms
17:42 Krock           so it must be a good server :P
17:44 Krock           srsly? do I really need no_guests on this testing server?
17:44 sfan5           you only need no_guests if you have it announced on the list
17:44 sfan5           !up minetest.ntdll.net 61562
17:44 MinetestBot     minetest.ntdll.net:61562 is up (188ms)
17:45 Krock           sfan5, it's announced?
17:45 sfan5           no
17:45 sfan5           !server port:61562
17:45 MinetestBot     sfan5:  | 62.203.234.241:61562 | Clients: 0/15, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 34ms
17:45 sfan5           uh
17:45 sfan5           it is
17:45 sfan5           apparently
17:45 Krock           fixed.
17:45 sfan5           !server port:61562
17:45 MinetestBot     sfan5:  | 62.203.234.241:61562 | Clients: 0/15, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 34ms
17:46 sfan5           did you do /set -n server_announce 0
17:46 Krock           un-checked "Öffentlich"
17:46 sfan5           oh
18:07 blaise          sfan5: Hello, are you active?
18:07 sfan5           blaise: yes
18:12 blaise          sfan5: I've recently noticed with the addition of rails on my server that the android version has a problem with the rail textures.. the normal rail (from minetest), the power rail, and the break rail (from carts mod) all seem to stretch infinitly into the sky..
18:13 blaise          sfan5: I'm not sure if you're the person to talk to about this, but I thought it was worth atleast speaking to you about..
18:14 rubenwardy      Can I get a raw version of http://servers.minetest.net/ without the Javascript?
18:14 blaise          mind you the functionality of these rails arn't compromised, just the aesthetics..
18:15 blaise          rubenwardy: I never told noscript to allow the javascript and I have no problem viewing it
18:15 rubenwardy      It doesn't load for me
18:15 rubenwardy      (with JS disabled
18:15 rubenwardy      )
18:15 Krock           rubenwardy, http://servers.minetest.net/list
18:17 Krock           damn, ninja'd
18:17 Krock           I wanted to post the same date
18:17 rubenwardy      http://servers.minetest.net/list is okay
18:28 Krock           I really start wonder if there's a difference in fps when I enable fancy trees and better lightening
18:31 blaise          sfan5: I suppose it should be noted that I'm using it on a Motorola Atrix HD (MB886) http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_atrix_hd_mb886-4867.php
18:35 Megaf           VanessaE: You there?
18:37 Krock           blaise, "Non-removable Li-Ion 1780 mAh battery"
18:37 Krock           you can't even buy a new one o.o
18:41 PenguinDad      Krock: there's quite a big difference between enabling and disabling fancy trees
18:41 * Krock         slabs PenguinDad width https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=153538#p153538
18:42 * PenguinDad    gooses
18:54 Krock           there are 4 mod(at least) which contain timber features.
18:54 Krock           +s
18:54 Megaf           hows that done?
18:54 Megaf           https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=152694&sid=0f48796e9c6f2e5f9d0e8777f2609c66#p152694
18:54 Megaf           those mountains with snow
18:55 Krock           looks cold
18:55 Krock           I guess a simple height param has been added. within 2 minutes, I could add the same
18:56 Megaf           also, I like the command block to be able to grant privs
18:56 Megaf           it does nothing when I put the command grant
18:58 VanessaE        Megaf: meh, plants_lib can do that too ;)
18:59 VanessaE        though not as good as shown there because that image shows biome blending also.  there's nothing to it really, a height variable like krock said
18:59 VanessaE        if > that value + random, add snow to the landscape
18:59 Krock           simply reduce temperature param by height
18:59 VanessaE        precisely.
19:00 VanessaE        Megaf: mind you paramat writes custom mapgens so he can code that sort of thing right into the map
19:00 VanessaE        so it's not like he's evaluating the base map and adding stuff to it
19:01 Megaf           VanessaE: also, any idea why the commander from mesecons wont grant privs?
19:02 VanessaE        Megaf: security reasons.
19:03 VanessaE        it operates under the username of whoever placed it
19:03 VanessaE        and by extension, with their level of privs, but it has access controls, as I recall, to prevent doing too much
19:04 Megaf           VanessaE: well, a command block placed by me cant grant privs
19:04 VanessaE        good. :)
19:04 VanessaE        it shouldn't be able to
19:04 sfan5           blaise: speak to sapier, he does the android version
19:04 Krock           Megaf, http://imgur.com/sw88k8w
19:11 blaise          sfan5: ty
19:11 blaise          the trick is catching sapier online
19:11 blaise          lmao
19:12 blaise          or I guess I could write him on the forum
19:12 sfan5           yes you could
19:13 Megaf           VanessaE: and how can I disable that security feature?
19:14 Megaf           Im reading the code at the moment but Im not having much luck
19:15 Megaf           lol
19:16 VanessaE        Megaf: I don't know, nor would I divulge how even if I did. :P
19:17 PenguinDad      plol
19:17 VanessaE        because next thing you know, someone on your server will end up with high-level privs that they should not have.
19:17 Megaf           well, if the command block can only use privs the person who placed ti have, and its uncraftable, I see no problem in it being able to use "privs"
19:18 VanessaE        and you'll be blaming me, or the mod, or the engine.
19:26 PenguinDad      http://imgur.com/gallery/EoIvS xD
19:26 sfan5           !title
19:26 MinetestBot     sfan5: If Real Life Was Like A Video Game - Imgur
19:27 sfan5           PenguinDad: /r/outside
19:28 PenguinDad      reddit *jumps out the window*
19:29 sfan5           reddit is nice
19:29 sfan5           (ignoring the recent shadowbanning incident in /r/gaming)
19:55 Megaf           man, my internet is terrible here
19:55 Megaf           its 3G and it doesnt work
19:55 Megaf           I wish there was a way to improve it, the signal is full
19:56 VanessaE        look for noise sources.
19:56 Megaf           VanessaE: its bad 24h/day
19:56 Megaf           its my localization
19:56 VanessaE        you can have 10x as much signal as you need but if there's too much noise near you the signal will be trashed.
19:57 VanessaE        change channels then
19:57 VanessaE        (literally)
19:57 VanessaE        if you're down on channel 3, try 6 or 11 I think are the other center frequencies
19:59 Megaf           VanessaE: channel? but its 3G
20:00 VanessaE        oh 3g
20:00 VanessaE        sorry
20:00 VanessaE        thought wifi for some reason
20:01 Megaf           well, Im tethering from my phone to my laptop using wifi
20:01 Megaf           but is less than 50 cm away
20:01 VanessaE        look for noise sources that affect the Wifi then
20:01 VanessaE        any time you have radio involved, you have to consider noise, not just signal level
20:02 VanessaE        also consider that cell companies hate when you tether :)
20:04 Megaf           I will try later on using a usb cable to theter
20:05 Megaf           VanessaE: the weird thing is, one month ago I was in another part of the city and I could get 1MB/s or more, everytime, could watch HD videos on youtube and skype video with no problem or buffer at all
20:05 Megaf           then I moved and now the 3G is this rubbish
20:06 VanessaE        exactly
20:06 VanessaE        you've got too much noise in your area
20:06 VanessaE        or too many other people in the area using 3G
20:06 VanessaE        too much traffic in that band
20:06 Megaf           up to 230 KB/s but really unstable, skype I can do voice only and lots of cuts and bad quality
20:06 Megaf           youtube, only downloading the videos, and at 480p
20:07 Megaf           I have done some research and people suggest to try other companies, problem is, this one Im using now, is the only ulimited one
20:07 Megaf           its three.ie
20:07 Megaf           pre paid, 20 euros/month
20:23 Megaf           can anyone explain me very briefly, xpanes?
20:23 Megaf           please
20:24 VanessaE        flat glass panels or bars that connect and route horizontally like fences.
20:24 VanessaE        situated in the middle of a node.
20:25 VanessaE        they can form flat walls and connect together.
20:25 VanessaE        I believe there are also bars available in that mod that do the same thing
20:25 VanessaE        (poorly when I last looked)(
20:26 VanessaE        oh, I already said that.  meh.
20:37 Megaf           very good VanessaE, thanks
20:38 Megaf           my server is running a game based on a old version of minetest_game
20:38 Megaf           I updated it and for my surprise lots of new things emerged
20:38 Megaf           and things that I used to have on my previous server are now default
20:39 Megaf           things like, boats, sethome and so on
20:40 VanessaE        There, I made a proper release of that angled_walls mod I made.  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=10091
20:40 VanessaE        didn't want it to be forgotten.
20:41 Megaf           yep, ive seen that
21:34 blaise          !server MidnightSystems
21:34 MinetestBot     blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 1/15, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 338ms
21:34 blaise          hrmmm
21:43 blaise          john_minetest: are you slow? it's a minetest server, not a web server
21:43 blaise          is this #apache?
21:43 * blaise        shakes his head
21:45 blaise          maybe if the URI minetest://midnightsystems.net:30000/ you could click on that
21:45 blaise          damn clickaholics
21:50 shadowzone      Hi, how is everybody?
21:50 shadowzone      Hi.
21:52 OldCoder        Yo
21:52 OldCoder        Well, as you pointed out, website needs to be redone
21:53 OldCoder        Out of date but this will be fixed
21:59 blaise          john_minetest: http://midnightsystems.net/
22:00 blaise          john_minetest: there, feel better?
22:00 blaise          john_minetest: I had no intentions of bringing that online till I had some mod for minetest that some statistical junky made to generate nice minetest statistics in html5
22:00 blaise          but I'll toss that up there just for you
22:04 kahrl           statistical junky? does this count: http://imgur.com/TlQN3cB
22:06 blaise          that's just a line graph
22:06 VanessaE        is this better?  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html
22:06 VanessaE        ;-)
22:06 blaise          I mean statistic totals, users, entities, mobs, blocks generated, blocks dug, blocks placed
22:06 kahrl           john_minetest: https://gist.github.com/kahrl/9135ee4a92693dc2c051
22:06 blaise          and user totals too
22:07 VanessaE        kahrl: wow, did it the hard way eh?
22:07 kahrl           yep
22:07 blaise          lol
22:08 blaise          ah, new kernel is out
22:11 blaise          wow
22:11 blaise          do people just not use the release version of minetest or something
22:11 blaise          I turned on strict version checking and there's only been two people today that had the release version of minetest-0.4.10
22:19 Megaf           Ok, I added Zeg9s skins, but I see nothing new on unified inventory
22:19 blaise          lmao
22:19 blaise          I recently pulled the u_skins and saw changes via git, but didn't notice any changesd
22:20 blaise          Megaf: is zeg9's skins the same as u_skins ?
22:20 Megaf           blaise: I dont know, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4147
22:22 Megaf           hm, 19:17:53: ERROR[main]: mod "skins" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "inventory_plus"
22:22 blaise          yeah
22:22 blaise          it doesn't support unified inventory
22:22 blaise          Depends also on Inventory++ (recommended), inventory_plus or mod menu
22:23 blaise          Megaf: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8816
22:23 blaise          ^^^^ - u_skins
22:24 blaise          I had originally tried zeg9's and had to switch..
22:24 Megaf           so, u_skins is actually better
22:24 VanessaE        I just use player_textures.
22:25 VanessaE        it's easy to use.
22:25 Megaf           blaise: do I have to have skins_db?
22:25 Megaf           skinsdb
22:26 blaise          eh, honestly I've never gotten it to work
22:26 blaise          the skins I use are what came with it
22:26 blaise          as far as the skinsdb scripts go.. I couldn't find a version of python that would work with them
22:26 blaise          they added a few new default skins not too long ago..
22:27 blaise          other than that I wouldn't have seen any more because I can't use the skinsdb scripts
22:27 blaise          lol
22:27 blaise          other than that it works great!
22:27 blaise          :)
22:28 Megaf           blaise: I cant used them either, never got them to work
22:28 blaise          I very much like u_skins
22:29 Megaf           !server Megaf
22:29 MinetestBot     Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | minetest.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/8, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10-Megaf / MegafXplore | Ping: 4235ms
22:29 blaise          I just wish the scripts worked to pull from the skinsdb
22:29 blaise          not a big deal though
22:29 Megaf           I have just added uskins to my server
22:29 Megaf           dat ping
22:29 blaise          it's a fairly good sized list of skins
22:29 blaise          !server Midnight
22:29 MinetestBot     blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/15, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 786ms
22:30 Megaf           john_minetest: thats a nice drawing
22:30 blaise          yeah, we're reaching internet rush hour
22:30 blaise          lmao
22:31 Megaf           wacom?
22:31 Megaf           we have a bamboo pen here
22:33 Megaf           lol, ivisibility skin
22:33 Megaf           john_minetest: yep, I like them
22:33 blaise          when I went to space camp some 20 years ago I got one of those space pens, for when I would be in a zero atmosphere zero gravity environment..
22:33 Megaf           mine isnt touch =/
22:33 blaise          never got to use it.. it's still in the box.
22:34 Megaf           blaise: wel, Russians will just use a pen...
22:34 Megaf           pencil*
22:34 blaise          indeed,
23:17 Bob___          Hey
23:17 Bob___          so
23:17 Bob___          this work with 256 mb ram?
23:17 VanessaE        barely so.
23:18 Bob___          Oh
23:18 VanessaE        depends on how complex of a subgam you're playing
23:18 Bob___          will 512mb work?
23:18 VanessaE        subgame*
23:18 VanessaE        512 should work fine
23:18 Bob___          do you support XP still?
23:19 Bob___          I can't upgrade... soooo I am interested in Minetest someone told me you guys aim to make it less requirements
23:19 VanessaE        yes XP is supported as far as I know
23:19 VanessaE        upgrade to Linux instead ;)
23:20 Bob___          I heard of linux but... to be honest i'm scared it won't be like windows xp D:
23:20 VanessaE        it's not like windows.  but it's not hard to learn.  give it a try sometime in a virtual machine.
23:20 VanessaE        anyways yeah Minetest runs in XP
23:21 Bob___          Okay
23:21 Bob___          and if i wanted to host server how much requirements ?
23:21 VanessaE        pretty low
23:22 VanessaE        few hundred megs, not much CPU if you don't run a complex game
23:22 Bob___          oo Thanks
23:22 VanessaE        http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html
23:22 Bob___          you been a great help :)
23:22 VanessaE        this is 8 servers.
23:22 Bob___          No swap even used!
23:22 VanessaE        the processor there is a dual-core i3 3.4 GHz.
23:22 VanessaE        correct.  and only about 3GB of RAM spread across those 8 servers.
23:23 VanessaE        2 of them are complex games - Dreambuilder
23:23 VanessaE        some are simple, like Nostalgia
23:23 Bob___          is Dreambuilder like a city building game?
23:23 VanessaE        kinda-sorta
23:23 Bob___          Ah
23:23 VanessaE        it's meant to be a "just build" sorta game
23:23 Bob___          may join it
23:23 VanessaE        know what I mean?
23:23 Megaf           VanessaE: are you playing them in VMs?
23:24 Bob___          yeah
23:24 VanessaE        Megaf: no.
23:27 Bob___          VanessaE do you manage Dreambuilder?
23:27 VanessaE        yep
23:28 VanessaE        I only mentioned it here because it uses a lot of RAM
23:28 VanessaE        (I recommend a couple of gigs if you play it singleplayer, 512 ought to be more than enough for a server)
23:28 troller         3GB for 0 players ;)
23:28 VanessaE        troller: look at the stats and shut up.
23:28 VanessaE        "Survival" on those stats is a Dreambuilder server.
23:29 troller         ok, all your servers have 1 avg player online
23:29 Bob___          Is there like a portable version...?
23:29 VanessaE        troller: even when I was peaking 40, the RAM usage was the same.
23:29 VanessaE        Bob___: there is an Android version which is still experimental.
23:29 VanessaE        https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9389
23:30 Bob___          What i meant was is there a version that you can put on a thumb drive without install
23:30 VanessaE        OH
23:30 VanessaE        yeah, that's how Windows versions are done anyway
23:30 VanessaE        they're "run in place"
23:30 VanessaE        just unzip it to the thumbdrive and play it from there
23:31 Bob___          Okay thanks sooo much :)
23:31 VanessaE        but remember, a thumbdrive is not meant for super-fast access and they do wear out after a while
23:31 Bob___          Oh