Time Nick Message 00:01 jentron_ the zip file from http://minetest.net/download is all I need? No datafile or anything? 00:04 * jentron_ is a complete noob at both minecraft and minecraft but is a wiz at programming and networking in general 00:31 VanessaE jentron_: should be all you need, yeah 00:31 jentron_ Thanks... 00:31 VanessaE other than whatever drivers and dependencies your system calls for of course 00:32 jentron_ Can I have mods in both my global directory /usr/share/games/minetest/mods/ and my user folder /home/jentron/.minetest/mods/ ? 00:32 VanessaE yes 00:32 VanessaE but you don't need them in the global dir 00:32 VanessaE just keep them in ~/.minetest/mods 00:32 shadowzone I suggest have them in .minetest or you get a buggy game. 00:33 jentron_ I had to hunt down OpenAl32 for windows... And debian put a couple in the global for me 00:33 shadowzone I tried having them in both and it messed it up. 00:33 jentron_ OK, I'll move them 00:33 jentron_ How about on windows? 00:33 VanessaE don't bother with the mods that debian has in its repository. they're most likely outdated. 00:33 shadowzone I have no idea I have used linux for years. 00:33 VanessaE what version of minetest is this btw> 00:33 jentron_ 0.4.10 00:33 VanessaE good. 00:34 VanessaE at least that is up-to-date :) 00:34 jentron_ They're good if someone at debian cares 00:37 jentron_ Last time I checked they had flightgear pinned 2 versions back 00:37 * jentron_ is a flightgear dev 00:41 Sokomine hm, debian has never been famous for up-to-date versions. yet mt compiles fine under it 00:42 jentron_ Yeah, that's usually what I do. Run stable (stale) stuff I don't care about being bleeding edge on and build my own if I do. 00:42 Sokomine jentron_: exactly 00:43 VanessaE I run debian on two of my machines and it actually behaves quite well on those (my remote server and my network box) 00:43 VanessaE (Xubuntu 14.04 on two others) 00:44 jentron I was thinking about putting a server on a debian box, then I could share a world with other players? 00:44 Sokomine yes. it's a good basis and runs well. and for those things one wants to have the newest version of, there are compilers 00:45 Sokomine sharing a world and running a server is pretty easy from the technical point of view. it's the administration and caring about the players that's most of the work 00:45 VanessaE yep, that's what I do. 00:46 Sokomine without e.g. an anti-guest-mod, you do get overrun by young kids who want to be your friend, grief everything that's not nailed, kill whatever moves...not all are like this, but many 00:46 jentron I was going to just let my family play... at least for now 00:46 Sokomine that ought to be safe then 00:46 jentron anti-guest-mod, or block at the router? 00:47 Sokomine anti-guest-mod. it blocks people who couldn't be bothered to select a name and go with the default (random) player name 00:47 VanessaE you *could* block at the router too if you really want to keep it inside your LAN. 00:48 VanessaE but that's no fun :) 00:48 jentron I have a big lan. 00:55 jentron Well, times up for today... thanks! 00:55 VanessaE have fun :) 01:00 Jordach jentron, just make sure UDP port 30000 (or the server specified port) is port forwarded 01:01 Jordach (that's needed for servers) 03:14 jentron Can I just git clone mods from github into mods/ ? 03:15 VanessaE sure 03:15 Miner_48er yes just check that the name is correct 03:15 VanessaE but you may have to rename them 03:15 VanessaE what he said. :) 03:15 VanessaE ninja'd :) 03:15 jentron :D 03:21 VanessaE what I do is keep them in ~/Minetest-related/mods , clone/pull to there as needed, and copy to ~/.minetest/mods and/or ~/.minetest/games/xxxxx/mods depending on what I'm doing 03:21 VanessaE that way I never have to worry about losing files 03:36 jentron Hmm, the castle mod needs some TLC 03:36 VanessaE jentron: what's wrong with it? 03:36 VanessaE and are you using Dan's version or the older one? 03:36 jentron It has several instances of door: instead of door. and a file is mis-named 03:37 jentron https://github.com/mimilus/castle 03:37 VanessaE hm, not familiar with that one 03:37 VanessaE I only knew of philipbenr's version and Dan's extension of it 03:37 jentron https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7159&sid=e7913835a1398064a7d1b42336e256b2 03:38 jentron I guess that is Dan 03:38 VanessaE that is, yeah 03:39 |xk05| by rename, you mean getting rid of the -master suffix on the folder? 03:39 VanessaE yes 03:39 VanessaE and checking that the mod name otherwise is correct 03:39 VanessaE sometimes it'll have the author's name in it 03:39 VanessaE or it'll be wrong case 03:40 VanessaE or it'll be e.g. Minetest-Mod-xxxxxxx 03:40 VanessaE when it needs to be xxxxxx 03:40 VanessaE depends what the original author named it in the repository 03:40 jentron 21:30:05: ERROR[main]: cannot open /home/jentron/.minetest/mods/castle/castle_towerwallsecret.lua: No such file or directory 03:40 jentron But there is one called castle_secrettowerwall.lua :D 03:41 VanessaE heh 03:43 VanessaE ok now I am caught up 03:43 VanessaE that IS the same mod apparently. 03:43 VanessaE or was as of April this year. 03:43 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=135834#p135834 03:44 VanessaE looks like philipbenr has taken it back under his wing: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9894 03:44 VanessaE guess I need to update soon. 03:45 jentron Crazy... Hopefully they work well together. :) 03:45 VanessaE just get rid of the one you cloned, and Dan's, and get that ^^^^ one. 03:45 VanessaE :) 03:45 VanessaE the way this reads, it supersedes the others. 03:54 VanessaE however the code therein at git HEAD is identical to the last version Dan released, so I guess philip didn't feel the need to update anything yet. 03:54 |xk05| so right now ive got a technic_game folder in ~/.minetest/games using minetest 4.9 03:54 VanessaE no matter, trading it out anyway. I don't use unsupported mods in my game. 03:54 VanessaE |xk05|: 0.4.9...and that's way outdated. 03:54 VanessaE use 0.4.10 03:55 VanessaE 0.4.9 is unsupported. 03:55 |xk05| oh 03:55 jentron how do I set the time to morning? /time ...? 03:55 |xk05| kubuntu package 03:55 VanessaE get it from the daily builds PPA instead. 03:56 |xk05| ok 03:56 VanessaE https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds 03:57 VanessaE there's also a stable builds repository if dev builds scare you, but they're usually stable :) 03:57 |xk05| i can handle it 03:57 VanessaE k 03:58 |xk05| the ziggaraut demands sacrifice 03:58 VanessaE heh 03:58 * |xk05| chuckles 03:58 WindHero jentron: /time 6000 03:59 jentron Thanks. I was confused because my number pad wasn't working... So, its 24 hour clock with an extra 0 at the end? 03:59 VanessaE yep 03:59 VanessaE more or less 04:00 WindHero military time ;) 04:00 WindHero Let's spice up these mounains, hmm? https://mediacru.sh/cpgdtR61R1AI 04:01 jentron euro time 04:01 VanessaE WindHero: beautiful 04:02 WindHero thanks :) 04:02 VanessaE ok, I'm off to bed 04:02 WindHero was default:snowblock removed from base game? 04:02 WindHero alright, goodnight~ 04:03 jentron how do I know where I am so I can teleport back when I get lost? 04:04 WindHero place or dig a block and look at the printout in the console window 04:04 WindHero also, pressing 04:04 WindHero F5 04:04 WindHero will show your position 04:06 jentron That works, thanks... What happens if I teleport into a rock? 04:06 WindHero pretty much nothing 04:06 WindHero as long as you have a pick or the noclip and fly privs, you're good 04:11 jentron Last silly question of the night... can I take a building I've built in one game and move it to another? (editing of text files does not scare me) 04:14 jentron Hmm, probably buried in map.sqlite 04:14 sol_invictus use worldedit 04:18 jentron Thanks, I'll look into that... 04:31 |xk05| ERROR[main]: ModError: ModError: Failed to load and run /home/don/.minetest/games/technic/mods/wireless/init.lua 04:32 |xk05| what am i doing wrong? 04:33 |xk05| as there is no init.lua file in that directory 04:39 Miner_48er add the file or disable the mod 04:40 |xk05| mods/moreblocks wants git username and password 04:51 Miner_48er ? 05:21 |xk05| moreblocks submodule update runs into a permissions problem with the repo 08:46 * raffahacks fell asleep 10:18 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 10:20 PenguinDad ''up minetest.megaf.info 30003 10:20 HLuaBot Unknown command "up". Try "help". 10:22 Megaf I really do need help with this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1556#issuecomment-52167033 11:16 * Jordach meows at PenguinDad 11:20 * PenguinDad meows at Jordach 11:21 Jordach theres been a steam client update again 11:21 Jordach the play button is blue and not green :3 11:35 sfan5 yay 11:36 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 11:36 * PenguinDad hugs MinetestBot 11:38 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 11:40 * PenguinDad puts a bowl with milk in front of sfan5 11:40 * sfan5 noms the milk 11:54 Taoki Why is the forum no longer notifying me of new replies in subscribed threads via email? 12:40 BlockMen i cant decide what bed model looks better, so voting-time: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=151079#p151079 12:42 jp__ BlockMen : the second, evidently... 12:42 * Jordach is super wet from being out in a rainstore 12:43 Jordach rainstorm 12:43 * BlockMen is surprised of jp's vote ;) 12:43 * sfan5 licks Jordach 12:43 jp__ it's objective, more little details 12:43 * PenguinDad hands Jordach a towel 12:43 Jordach BlockMen, prefer the second, would like coloured beds 12:44 Jordach so Pilz's beds are completely obsolete 12:46 BlockMen Jordach, for now only model. and for each wool color beds bloats everything again 12:46 Jordach BlockMen, lie 12:47 Jordach you made a goddamn on_rightclick function 12:47 Jordach and you can recycle the same model ._. 12:47 BlockMen why should i recyle something i dont like? 12:48 BlockMen and i already said " i won't start to tinker with those complete different mods." 12:48 BlockMen and that wont change 12:51 Jordach please don't make me go Vanessa on you 12:51 sfan5 wat 12:54 Jordach and fork it and end up doing a better job 12:54 Jordach (gloopblocks, gloopores, etc) 12:54 jp__ mine is almost tweakable for a double : http://i.imgur.com/Zs8S1xH.png :P 12:56 BlockMen Jordach, lol. if she wants do that and end better up i wont mind. this is no competition 12:56 BlockMen i do my mod the way i like it. and either ppl use it or not 12:57 Jordach jp__, lemme fix that ;) 12:57 jp__ Jordach : it's preferable to keep the feet side lower than the head side I think... 12:57 jp__ matter of aesthetic 13:02 Jordach jp__, or just fix it :) 13:03 jp__ nothing to fix 13:04 jp__ or perhaps an ABM : if bed above -> feet side border extended 13:04 jp__ but not a priority for the moment... 13:06 BlockMen jp__, not with an abm 13:06 BlockMen use on_place and on_dig 13:06 BlockMen *or whatever the correct callbacks are called 13:07 Matsetes_ Is there a mod to collect stuff from the ground automatically? 13:08 jp__ Ok thx, BlockMen. 13:09 jp__ Matsetes : https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop 13:09 jp__ ^ Matsetes_ 13:10 Matsetes_ I don't want them to drop on the ground 13:11 Matsetes_ I woul like to collect sapling and apple and leaves without clicking 20000 times 13:11 jp__ 'item_drop' can do that 13:12 jp__ Just read in the link instead of to stop on title name... 13:34 Matsetes_ Ok 13:39 Matsetes_ It says nothing 13:40 jp__ « This mod adds Minecraft like drop/PICK UP of items to Minetest. » 13:44 Matsetes_ Yes, but I don't want the drop 13:44 Matsetes_ Only the pick up 13:47 nore it can be configured for that IIRC 14:22 sol_invictus is it possible to pre-generate particular part of the world? 14:24 Jordach http://www.pcgamingisglory.com/ 14:30 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 14:30 sfan5 sol_invictus: yes 14:36 sfan5 sol_invictus: https://gist.github.com/sfan5/9586533 14:59 PenguinDad http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Schrodingers-Attendee-and-more-Best-of-Emails.aspx :D 15:04 HomelessHedgehog I wonder 15:04 sfan5 you wonder? 15:05 HomelessHedgehog Nah I forgot what wander 15:05 HomelessHedgehog wonder* 15:06 BlockMen homeless forgot where he wanders? :) 15:06 HomelessHedgehog NO 15:06 BlockMen :P 15:07 shadowzone Homeless do /server isis.inchra.net then /join #minetest 15:09 someguy_on_irc IM ON IRC 15:09 sfan5 yes you are 15:10 someguy_on_irc hmm 15:10 someguy_on_irc and. 15:10 someguy_on_irc does onez mt server has different room? 15:12 HomelessHedgehog O IDEA :) 15:12 someguy_on_irc hey 15:12 HomelessHedgehog NO* 15:12 someguy_on_irc wut? 15:12 someguy_on_irc hmm 15:14 shadowzone You two both type out like you would /spawn /server isis.inchra.net then type /join #minetest 15:14 sfan5 shadowzone: I'm pretty sure that doesn't work in webchat 15:14 shadowzone write it down. 15:14 * shadowzone goes off to try it. 15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm 15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm 15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm 15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm 15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm 15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm 15:15 someguy_on_irc hmm 15:15 shadowzone someguy don't do that. 15:17 someguy_ help 15:17 Shadow|Kiwiirc It works. 15:17 someguy_ what 15:17 Shadow|Kiwiirc someguy_ type out /server isis.inchra.net with the forward slash then /join #minetest 15:17 someguy_ how to do tit.. 15:18 someguy_ hmm 15:18 someguy_ didnt do anything 15:18 PenguinDad Shadow|Kiwiirc: someguy_ doesn't use KiwiIRC 15:19 someguy_ ???? 15:19 shadowzone kiwiirc and webchat is the same thing right? 15:19 asl there are different webchat 15:19 Shadow|Kiwiirc Oh... 15:19 someguy_ whats the link? 15:20 PenguinDad shadowzone: Freenode webchat is Qwebirc 15:20 asl like irccloud, Qwebirc, and others out there 15:20 someguy_ how to get KiwiIRC? 15:21 Shadow|Kiwiirc someguy_: in a browser type kiwiirc then configure it to isis.inchra.net : 6667 #minetest 15:21 someguy_ ? 15:22 someguy_ it just google's it...... 15:22 shadowzone Yep. 15:22 Calinou well, I suggest learning some IRC. 15:22 someguy_ so,? 15:22 shadowzone here 15:22 Calinou not going to be easy. 15:22 someguy_ im gamer 15:22 shadowzone lemme pm you 15:22 someguy_ not a progtemmer 15:22 someguy_ hmm 15:22 someguy_ programmer* 15:22 someguy_ didnt get the pm 15:23 Calinou IRC isn't only for programmers 15:24 someguy_ hmm 15:25 someguy_ so everyone on this irc are programmers? 15:26 PenguinDad someguy_: not really 15:26 shadowzone I am. 15:27 HomelessHedgehog I'm not 15:28 shadowzone I program in lua. 15:28 shadowzone and make mods. 15:28 raffahacks Is there a "moving objects" mod? 15:29 raffahacks Like aircraft in mc 15:29 shadowzone Not that I know of. 15:29 raffahacks Was I clear? 15:30 Calinou raffahacks, there's a meshnodes thingy 15:30 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8059 15:30 Calinou yay! 15:30 PenguinDad but it doesn't work in 0.4.10 15:30 raffahacks Bad 15:31 asl raffahacks, wasn't there a ufo mod that can be call `moving object?` 15:31 Calinou there are tons of vehicle mods: cars, hovercrafts, UFOs, boats (default), carts… 15:31 raffahacks I don't know exactly... 15:32 raffahacks1 Sorry bad connection 15:34 raffahacks1 I don't know if it's possible, but is there a mod where you build something, than you can move the whole object via some kind of motors and some mese controls? 15:36 PenguinDad raffahacks1: IIRC technic frames can do that 15:36 raffahacks1 Iirc? What is it? 15:37 sfan5 IIRC -> If I Remember Correctly 15:37 PenguinDad IIRC == If I Recall Correctly 15:37 * sfan5 licks PenguinDad 15:37 raffahacks1 Ah ok ;) 15:38 PenguinDad The ninjakitten ninja'd me :D 15:39 raffahacks1 Are technic frames in technic mod? 15:39 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 15:39 * PenguinDad pets sfan5 15:39 * sfan5 purrs 15:40 PenguinDad raffahacks1: they are in the technic mod 15:40 raffahacks1 And... How do they work? 15:45 raffahacks1 I think Celeron56-1 was very lucky to have all these users contributing his game 15:47 raffahacks1 It is usually difficult to find contributors 15:47 Calinou it's not exceptional either 15:47 Calinou people like Minecraft-style games 15:48 Calinou Minecraft is seen by many as the game of the decade… 15:48 raffahacks1 Was it the first clone? 15:48 zash Minecraft wasn't first 15:48 raffahacks1 Not clone, sorry 15:49 zash It was the one that got the attention tho 15:49 raffahacks1 zash: i think it was the first in 3d 15:49 PenguinDad raffahacks1: actually minecraft is a clone of infiniminer 15:49 raffahacks1 Wasn't it? 15:50 zash I've read about at least two older games that worked similarly 15:50 raffahacks1 Was infiniminer 3d? 15:50 PenguinDad raffahacks1: of course it was 15:51 raffahacks1 Damn commercial world 15:52 sfan5 ? 15:52 PenguinDad Infiniminer was an open source game 15:52 zash Everything boils down to marketing. 15:52 raffahacks1 I mean minecraft success 15:53 sfan5 Minecraft didn't really do marketing 15:53 raffahacks1 For many stupid people, an open source game cannot be "cool" 15:53 raffahacks1 Why didn't it do marketing? 15:54 Calinou “if stupid people flied, it'd always be night” 15:54 sfan5 lol 15:54 PenguinDad lol 15:54 sfan5 Minecraft didn't need marketing 15:54 Calinou the users did the marketing for Mojang as usual. 15:54 zash sfan5: Doesn't mean that nobody did marketing 15:54 raffahacks1 Calinou: lol, cannot stop laughing 15:54 Calinou this is nicely done modern marketing… 15:55 sfan5 zash: Mojang itself didn't do any marketing IIRC 15:55 sfan5 (not direct marketing at least) 15:56 raffahacks1 Just see my classmates saying linux is crap without having ever tried it 15:57 zash Linux /is/ crap, that's why it's popular ;) 15:58 raffahacks1 Maybe without knowing that their dear phone AND tablet AND surveillance cameras AND their father's car AND their TV run it 15:58 raffahacks1 zash: ? 15:59 raffahacks1 Mac OS has at least an idea behind, but Windows... 15:59 HomelessHedgehog had to switch device 16:00 zash raffahacks1: ask kernel design perfectionists, they'll tell you about the awesomeness of microkernels 16:02 raffahacks1 I don't really know why microkernels are better than monolythic kernels. Why a server / client structure? 16:02 raffahacks1 Aren't linux, windoze and os x all monolythic? 16:05 zash I thougt OS X had a more microkernel-ish kernel. But I don't really care much for Apple 16:06 PenguinDad Windows and OS X both have Hybrid Kernels 16:07 raffahacks1 I love linux because it's completely hackable 16:07 raffahacks1 Hybrid? 16:07 Calinou sfan5, they sold prepaid cards in Walmart (to have more kids) ;) 16:08 sfan5 Calinou: not direct marketing 16:08 PenguinDad raffahacks1: Not a real Monolithic Kernel but not a real Microkernel either 16:09 raffahacks1 I deduced that, but in which way? 16:09 zash raffahacks1: Darwin, OS X's kernel is FOSS too FWIW :) 16:09 raffahacks1 :) 16:10 Calinou which explains why nobody uses it? 16:10 zash Calinou: No, but the marketing does! :) 16:11 raffahacks1 I am working on a 5" gameboy-like minetest-playing console with touchscreen :) 16:12 raffahacks1 With a cubieboard and some components i have at home 16:13 Calinou have fun playing Minetest at more than 15 FPS 16:13 raffahacks1 But how can i build a keyboard? 16:13 raffahacks1 15fps? 16:14 raffahacks1 It's better if i don't lose my time then :) 16:15 raffahacks1 Do you know any tips to obtain contributors for a project? 16:16 raffahacks1 Calinou: ^ 16:19 Calinou 1) don't seek them 16:20 Calinou 2) repetitions of 1 with added emphasis 16:24 sol_invictus sfan5: thank you very much 16:42 h4iku hi all 16:42 h4iku I've a simple question about the game 16:44 Krock Ohai PPL 16:44 h4iku is anybody in there? 16:44 h4iku hi Krock 16:44 Krock I'm not here btw 16:44 Calinou h4iku, yes, ask! 16:45 Calinou there are about 110 people in this channel, but not all of them are here right now (some may be busy or sleeping) 16:45 Krock *114 16:45 h4iku Calinou: How I can obtain wool from sheeps? 16:45 Calinou right-click them 16:45 Calinou Krock, minus the bots 16:45 h4iku really? 16:45 Calinou yes, no need for shears 16:45 Calinou it works like that in Simple Mobs and my Mobs mod 16:46 Calinou (but in my Mobs mod, a sound plays when shearing :D) 16:46 h4iku ooh 16:46 h4iku very simple 16:46 h4iku I'll try 16:46 Jordach evening BlockMen 16:46 h4iku is not possible to make shears? 16:47 BlockMen hi Jordach o/ 16:47 Calinou no 16:48 h4iku ok... yeeaaah I've wool!!!!!!!! THANKS Calinou!! :D 16:49 Calinou no problem :) 16:49 Calinou you can make it regrow by giving wheat to sheep (right click) 16:49 Calinou sheep follow you if you hold wheat 16:49 h4iku Calinou: another question... can I make a bed with wool and wood? 16:49 Krock o/ BlockMen 16:50 BlockMen Krock o/ 16:51 BlockMen update to test, Krock (https://github.com/BlockMen/beds) ;) 16:51 Krock oh neat 16:52 Calinou h4iku, with the Beds mod, yes: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2625 16:52 Calinou trololo, Minecraft ripoff: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9881 16:53 h4iku Calinou: great, thanks! 16:54 BlockMen Calinou, its better than the mc beds 16:54 BlockMen but i guess you need you hater mode ;) 16:54 Calinou as bad as the MC beds… 16:54 Calinou but thanks for making night skip at 50 % 16:55 Calinou that improves them a lot 16:55 BlockMen so, what is "as bad as" in mc? 16:55 Calinou eg. the looks 16:55 Calinou looks like there's only 1 colour too 16:55 Calinou PilzAdam's has several colours, that's a cool thing 16:55 Calinou many Minecraft players keep asking for that 16:56 BlockMen lol, so colors are more important than everything else? 16:56 BlockMen oh god .... 16:56 BlockMen you seem to be mc player ;) 16:56 Calinou lay animation poses a problem: you can't distinguish dead player from sleeping one :/ 16:56 Calinou also, no ability to look around due to formspec 16:56 BlockMen false^ 16:56 sfan5 Calinou: a sleeping player will be on a bedc 16:56 sfan5 .c 16:56 sfan5 -c 16:56 Calinou someone can die on a bed 16:57 BlockMen the he would fly "over" the bed 16:57 Calinou not necessarily 16:57 BlockMen and in most cases respawn soon 16:57 BlockMen Calinou, yes. there is no way that you can position yourself on bed by dying 16:58 Calinou /suicide 16:58 Calinou or just being killed on it by a player or a mob 16:58 BlockMen then its still the wrong pos 16:58 Calinou any way, I may add /sit and /lay commands in Carbone, to sit (just for fun) and lay (play dead, but health bar will still be there, except if disabled by the server) 16:58 Calinou playing dead could add interesting PvP 16:59 * Jordach scribbles down for BFD 17:35 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 17:54 Krock *selects "Bug me again in 24h"* 17:54 Krock *presses ask me again later* 17:56 rubenwardy Hi all! 17:56 * sfan5 meows at Krock 17:57 * rubenwardy has successfully called a C++ function from Python! 17:57 * Krock memes at sfan5 17:57 * Krock gives rubenwardy "execute("cute.cat"); endcatline;" 17:58 rubenwardy As in, I have embedded python in C++ like how Minetest embeds Lua. 17:58 * Krock embedded lua in C# 17:59 rubenwardy Well don! 18:01 Krock thanx 18:06 Calinou meh 18:06 Calinou what are you embedding it for? 18:06 Calinou for extensions, Lua is generally a smarter choice 18:07 * sfan5 embeds Calinou in MinetestBot 18:15 rubenwardy I don't like Lua as a programming language. The class support in Javascript sucks. 18:15 rubenwardy And Python is one of my favourite languages. 18:18 sfan5 Javascript is not made for OOP 18:18 sfan5 Python isn't the ideal language for OOP either 18:18 sfan5 but Python is nice 18:22 Calinou Lua is very easy to learn and that's important for an extension language. 18:28 Krock Calinou, but it destroys that zero-index-start standard 18:28 Calinou is it really a good standard? it's unlogical 18:29 Calinou the real issue is things like ~= instead of ! 18:29 Calinou != is obvious, ~= isn't 18:29 Calinou but you eventually get used to it :) 18:29 puhfa um actually its pretty logical too 18:29 puhfa since ~ usually means binary not 18:30 sfan5 Calinou: people who don't know about programming dunno that ! means not 18:30 PenguinDad Krock: is this standard that important? 18:30 Krock Calinou, logical since bytes start with 0x00 (0) and end with 0xFF (255) 18:30 sfan5 it's just "logical" becuase it is usually like that 18:30 Krock PenguinDad, possibly it's irritating for learning other programming languages 18:33 PenguinDad Other languages rarely have anything that behaves like tables in lua 18:34 Calinou ~= may be mistaken for “approximately” 18:34 Calinou while != clearly draws your attention 18:42 sfan5 Calinou: it's just "logical" becuase it is usually like that 18:57 Flipsels @Krock That bytes start with 0x00 (0) doesn't mean you have to start counting on zero? 18:57 Krock Flipsels, right but it's easier to take 0 instead of adding 1 each time 18:58 Flipsels Like when on preschool you're asked to count to ten: why not start with zero? 18:58 * Jordach 's battlestation https://mediacru.sh/848b5bc50742 18:58 Flipsels Yeah I know, but that is mostly based on the logical loops with counting indexes in it. Not because of the binairy system 18:59 sfan5 counting has nothing to do with the binary systzem 18:59 sfan5 -z 19:00 sfan5 people just happen to use 0 and 1 19:00 * Flipsels agree 19:41 HomelessHedgehog Now I forgot how to join the server IRC 19:43 Jordach i do not remember how to access Kiwi's linkage features 19:43 BlockMen bye everyone 19:45 HomelessHedgehog WHY DO I FORGET. *sigh* 19:48 HomelessHedgehog Jordach do you know how to join #minetest with /server 19:48 Jordach i'm too tired for this shit 19:49 HomelessHedgehog I'll take that as a no 19:59 CaIinou http://hexchat.github.io/ → download → install → run → create server entry in list → address isis.inchra.net → port 6667 → connect → type /join #minetest 20:00 sapier Animals Modpack 2.4.1 ... now faster then farming ;-P https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=629 20:00 CaIinou what about this? 20:00 Jordach CaIinou, /nick 20:01 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 20:01 Jordach wat 20:01 sfan5 you don't like meow? 20:02 Jordach you poked me for no reason 20:02 sfan5 :( 20:02 sfan5 sry 20:02 Jordach that's fine kitten :3 20:02 sfan5 meow :3 20:02 * Jordach strokes sfan5 20:02 * sfan5 purrs 20:03 sapier << leaves ... to much kittens 20:04 sfan5 !op 20:04 sfan5 !deop 20:05 PenguinDad sapier doesn't like kittens it seems :( 20:12 CaIinou http://www.florian-diesch.de/software/gtkfalse/ 20:12 CaIinou I've translated this software in 40 seconds 20:18 kahrl /bin/false --help 20:18 kahrl > Report false bugs to bug-coreutils@gnu.org 20:19 sfan5 :D 20:20 CaIinou false positives 21:08 sapier I was joking ;-) 21:12 * PenguinDad headdesks 21:12 sfan5 one does not simply joke about not liking kittens. 21:14 PenguinDad I wonder when I finally finish cloning the atom repo :/ 21:14 * Sokomine hides from blockmen 21:14 Sokomine i just can't stand the texture of those beds :-( it's so...2d. while mt can do much more 21:41 Jordach PenguinDad, Atoms are small, repos are not :) 21:42 PenguinDad Jordach: The atom I'm talking about isn't small ;) 21:53 war-sloop hello minetest community ! 23:16 dumdidum there is one feature is miss in minetest. 23:20 dumdidum if i work with a chest, right now i have to drag and drop the items. it would be great, if it would be possible to press shift and then simply click on an item and it changes position from chest to inventory and accordingly the other way 23:52 blaise faster than farming? 23:52 blaise was he talking about his mobf mod ?