Time Nick Message 00:04 twoelk https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/tree/saveToLocalMap <-the saveToLocalMap source 00:05 OldCoder Batman, you can have WorldEdit if noone objects... I'm teaching today but will be happy to talk this week 00:05 OldCoder That way we both get the schemes 00:07 Jordach OldCoder, as in, school? 00:07 Miner_48er thx twoelk 00:08 Batman OldCoder thanks. I will look you up later in the week. Your awesome 00:09 OldCoder kkcu 00:09 OldCoder Jordach, no; webdev 00:10 Jordach OldCoder, ooh 00:10 * OldCoder is resting c u 00:10 Jordach at least you can handle the Pretty Hot Potatoes :3 01:11 someguy helloh 01:13 someguy anyone there? 01:13 fu-fu I'm confused. 01:13 someguy ok, 01:13 fu-fu How does name in func = function(name, param) get the name? (chat command) 01:13 someguy brb . [doing homework -.-] 01:14 someguy andi dont know lua programming. 01:14 someguy and I* 01:14 fu-fu Can I just throw function(name,param,foo,bla) in and always get foo and bla and name? 01:14 someguy try it. 01:14 someguy then be sure on what you get. 01:17 someguy is Owen arh* Shadow Ninja On? 01:39 someguy vanessaE? 01:39 someguy u there? 01:39 VanessaE yes 01:39 someguy i wanna tell you something secret. o.o 01:40 VanessaE you can just tell me here where it will fall into the public logs :P 01:40 * VanessaE doesn't like secrets. 01:40 someguy man update your site it still is written just {HTML} where as in these days HTML 5 css3 . etc are there. 01:40 VanessaE why should I update it? 01:41 VanessaE what's the benefit? 01:41 someguy please update ur site from the 19'70s. 01:41 someguy still :P 01:41 someguy dosent look that ugly. 01:41 someguy just images. 01:41 someguy use a little css 01:41 VanessaE HTML 4 is still just as useful as it was back then, and if you check the sources, you'll find it uses CSS and javascript. 01:41 VanessaE I'm just too lazy to rework the style. 01:41 someguy hmm 01:42 VanessaE there's nothing to be gained by rewriting it in HTML5 except for heataches. 01:42 someguy use css3 01:42 someguy then 01:42 VanessaE headaches* 01:42 someguy meh 01:42 someguy nope 01:42 someguy im just 16 01:42 someguy and i have a Windows 8 web demo written in pure html5 and javascript css3 01:42 VanessaE so? 01:42 someguy just update. 01:43 * VanessaE senses lamefun 01:43 someguy thts all i wanted so say. 01:43 Exio i'm 17 and i've coded my own interpreter, i'm obviously a hacker 01:43 someguy hmm 01:43 VanessaE I have no intention to update the code on that site. 01:43 someguy im a web developer 01:43 someguy not a pc programmer 01:43 Exio VanessaE, because i'm a hacker, i say minetest should use brainfuck, LUA is deprecated 01:43 Exio ok? 01:43 someguy ............ 01:43 someguy -.- 01:44 someguy Exio 01:44 someguy try to hack minetest. 01:44 someguy . 01:44 someguy [obviously he cant] 01:44 someguy g2g be back in a min. 01:45 VanessaE [off] what a tool. 01:45 Exio [off] plol 01:49 someguy VanessaE : one thought. you'r smart as F%$# at electronics 01:49 someguy got to say that 01:50 VanessaE I used to be, 01:50 someguy :( 01:50 VanessaE not so much anymore. I'm out of practice and no longer current with the state of technology. 01:51 someguy oh. 01:51 someguy more minetest 01:51 VanessaE nope, that happened long before minetest was even invented. 01:51 someguy no not that 01:51 someguy i ment "in this time" 01:52 someguy you just mine 01:52 VanessaE I play, I code, I read 01:52 someguy hmm 01:52 someguy you play mineCraft? 01:52 VanessaE nope. 01:53 someguy good :D 01:55 fu-fu VanessaE: I'ma bug you, and ask how the func=function(name,param,foo,bar) works, as it seems able to get some things, sometimes, and not at others. Is it tied to each type of minetest.register... or what? 01:56 VanessaE it is. 01:56 VanessaE for each callback, only certain parameters are passed to the function being called. 01:57 VanessaE in ABMs for example, you get the position and node being operated on, and two object counts 01:57 VanessaE in an on_punch, you get the node, the player, position I think, and I forget what else 01:57 someguy and a guy called Sonic Ether, plays minecraft and made sonic ethers unbeliveble shaders mod........... 01:58 someguy anyone like him on mineTest? 01:58 someguy o.0 01:58 VanessaE in an after_place callback, you get the placer, a pointed_thing reference, and a couple other items 01:58 VanessaE so it varies from one callback to another. each is different but each always gets the same things every time they're called. 01:58 someguy hmm. 0,o 01:58 fu-fu Alrighty, makes sense, that was my guess but it's good to be verified. 01:59 VanessaE not familiar with him, someguy. 01:59 someguy hmm 01:59 someguy www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ9_q3l4lVk 01:59 someguy official trailer. 01:59 VanessaE not interested. 01:59 fu-fu Is there any reasonable way to get pointed_thing with a chat command...? 01:59 someguy i know xD 02:00 someguy -.- 02:00 someguy just look 02:00 VanessaE fu-fu: I'm not sure. never tried. 02:00 VanessaE but it's probably easier to do a register_on_punchnode() call and obtain it that way 02:00 someguy and is lua like javascript? 02:01 VanessaE someguy: nope, not really 02:01 someguy hmm 02:01 someguy both minetest and minecraft are two diffrent games 02:01 someguy im not coparing them 02:01 VanessaE the little bit of javascript I've written or looked at didn't really bear any resemblance to the Lua I write today 02:02 someguy just take a look at the mod 02:02 someguy www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ9_q3l4lVk 02:02 VanessaE also, Minecraft is Java, not Javascript. 02:02 someguy i know. 02:02 someguy man im not a "total noob". 02:03 fu-fu VanessaE: Ahh, I thought that was more of a block-side thing instead of a global. Thanks. 02:07 fu-fu someguy: Very pretty, my computer would just die instantly. 02:08 someguy lol 02:08 VanessaE waving leaves...snore 02:08 someguy -.- 02:08 someguy same for me 02:08 VanessaE lava...snore 02:08 VanessaE fog 02:08 VanessaE snore 02:08 VanessaE water surface 02:08 VanessaE snore 02:08 someguy i cant handle MINETEST 02:08 VanessaE we have all of this already 02:08 someguy im running on Dx 3d mode 02:08 someguy directX9 02:08 someguy windows 8 sucks. 02:08 someguy cant updateOnelGL 02:08 someguy update open gl* 02:09 someguy so dx . 02:09 VanessaE reflections, coming soon *pokes RealBadAngel* 02:09 VanessaE bloom, coming soon 02:10 RealBadAngel windows8 cannot handle opengl? 02:10 RealBadAngel another reason to switch to linux 02:10 someguy hmm 02:10 someguy not that 02:11 RealBadAngel so what? 02:11 someguy Windows 8 and my inbuit graphics arnt good friends.. 02:11 someguy soo no update. 02:11 someguy they HATE each other. 02:11 VanessaE about the only thing in that whole video that we don't have coming down the pike is those procedural clouds. 02:11 RealBadAngel pity 02:11 someguy hmm 02:11 someguy yep 02:12 someguy cnt start minecraft 02:12 VanessaE screw minecraft :P 02:12 someguy at least minetest is thre for hsppiness. 02:12 someguy happieness. 02:12 someguy brb 02:13 fu-fu Atleast minetest runs on a computer. Usually under like 1/10th a gig, whereas minecraft to get fun/usefull/whatnot is at 8gb (which I don't have.) 02:14 someguy hmm ram? 02:14 fu-fu Yes. 02:14 someguy i have 4 gig. 02:15 fu-fu Hdd space, I have several TB's, ram, 2Gb. 4GB of Zram if I waana risk it, and then some swap as needed. 02:16 someguy hmm 02:17 Exio fu-fu, i'd say in my FX, minecraft uses less ram 02:17 Exio but in my netbook, minetest is still better performance-wise :P 02:17 fu-fu FX? 02:18 someguy Dx* 02:18 someguy . 02:20 fu-fu It was a slight exaggaderation, but minecraft + technic/feedthebeast = custome launcher + tons of stuff = ~2.2GB ram when it's all loaded, and then it just naturally kreeps up in usage. I tell the java VM to use 4GB's, and it can almost work, if my entire computer consits of running basic drivers/moduals, dhcpcd, wpa_supplicant, X and Java. But then it'll crash and not work anyways. 02:21 fu-fu Minetest, however, I can run, and it works, and I can have my computer do others things at the same time. 02:21 someguy hm 02:22 someguy yep 02:22 someguy at lest i can "run". 02:23 someguy i think i can run minetest with this system req. http://puu.sh/aNky3/0b3a17b4f4.png 02:24 someguy re: i think i can run minetest with this system req. http://puu.sh/aNky3/0b3a17b4f4.png 02:26 Exio fu-fu, FX = AMD FX = my desktop :p 02:26 Exio it has 12gb though 02:27 someguy oh kk 02:27 someguy o/o 02:27 someguy ok 02:28 Exio it is a bulldozer 6100, nothing much but mid-end-ish 02:28 someguy what crap can i do with this http://puu.sh/aNkOH/b11713962c.png 02:28 someguy . 02:33 VanessaE greetz, kaeza 02:33 kaeza greetings 02:34 Exio \o/ kaeza 02:34 Exio long time no see! ;P 02:34 kaeza o/ 02:35 blaise \o 02:36 blaise !server MidnightSystems 02:36 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 1/25, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 507ms 02:39 someguy Unable to connect Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at midnightsystems.net. 02:39 someguy o.0 03:19 blaise how do we power lv devices? 03:22 RealBadAngel get a batbox, switching station and a solar panel for example 03:22 RealBadAngel connect it all (from bottom) with lv cable 03:23 RealBadAngel and a machine you want to power too, ofc 03:26 blaise ah, switching station 03:33 blaise what is this illusive switching station I keep hearing about.. 03:33 luizrpgluiz hiii 03:36 blaise hello 03:37 luizrpgluiz have someone creating mods? 03:58 fu-fu blaise: A very costly thing to build. 03:59 blaise I can't even find it to build it 04:01 fu-fu You need 2 of each kind of transformer if I remember, and 3 things in the middle, i don't remeber what they were. 04:07 blaise I have one, 04:07 blaise now what do I do with it? 04:08 blaise do I have to put batteries in the battery box? 04:27 RealBadAngel if you want to load them 04:27 RealBadAngel in those slots you can charge your tools or portable batteries 04:54 * VanessaE wanders off to bed. 04:54 VanessaE night all 05:55 blaise so uhrm, 05:55 blaise what can we do with a crap ton of charged battery boxes? 05:55 blaise can we light our buildings? 06:25 ThatGraemeGuy blaise: if your power source is solar generation, battery boxes will allow you to run machines when its dark 06:25 blaise or to maintain my power grid in other types of power generation failure? 06:25 ThatGraemeGuy solar generates for less than half a minetest day, as they only start generating slightly after sunrise, and they stop slightly before sunset 06:26 ThatGraemeGuy yes generally, they provide a way to store power for later use 06:26 blaise awesome.. 06:26 blaise what kind of lighting can I use? 06:26 ThatGraemeGuy and for charging electrical tools, chainsaws, mining lasers, mining drills 06:27 ThatGraemeGuy there is no electric lighting in technic at this point 06:27 ThatGraemeGuy the homedecor modpack provides various lights that are powered by magic :-) 06:33 blaise :\ 06:34 blaise I can't even remember if I installed homedecor 06:34 blaise I feel like I did 06:35 ThatGraemeGuy if you have an inventory enhancement like unified_inventory you can search for homedecor and you should see a boatload of items 06:39 fishyWET or just use the command "/mods" ingame, it should show you all the mods installed. 06:40 ThatGraemeGuy lol yeah or that 06:40 * ThatGraemeGuy failed "Keep It Simple 101" 07:49 blaise how in teh world do I bring up the mobf menu? 07:52 VanessaE /mobf :) 07:52 RealBadAngel i can see youre up too ;) 08:20 VanessaE RealBadAngel: not for much longer. 08:25 VanessaE I/O error reading /dev/brain: Segmentation fault (core dumped). 08:27 VanessaE bbl, off to bed. 08:27 VanessaE night all 08:34 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Ingersoll Day! :-D 09:06 LemonLake excuse me 09:06 LemonLake what exactly occured 09:06 sfan5 stuff 09:06 * PenguinDad meows at MinetestBot 09:06 * MinetestBot meows at PenguinDad 09:13 fishyWET eh, anyone knows how to add physics to an armor in the minetest-3d_armor mod? 09:20 blaise hrmm 09:21 blaise sapier said to go into mobf menu and remove mobs after they're disabled 09:21 blaise but for some reason , it's crashing the server now 09:21 blaise :\ 09:21 blaise registering pattern flight_pattern1 │ 09:21 blaise 04:19:57: ERROR[main]: core.deserialize(): ...sr/share/games/minetest/builtin/common/serialize.lua:181: [string "return { ["animal_big_red:big_red"] = { [1.4110470848521e+14] =..."]:1: ']' expected near '' │ 09:24 blaise maybe I can just load the mobf_settings 09:24 blaise and remove them all together 09:24 blaise :\ 09:26 blaise nope 09:26 blaise lmao 10:00 blaise !server MidnightSystems 10:03 MinetestBot ConnectionResetError: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer (file "/usr/lib/python3.4/socket.py", line 371, in readinto) 10:04 Matsetes Midnight? Lol, here is 12 am 10:05 Amaz !server Krock 10:05 MinetestBot Amaz: No results 10:05 Amaz !server Platform 10:05 MinetestBot Amaz: No results 10:05 PenguinDad !server Vanilla 10:05 MinetestBot PenguinDad: VanessaE's mostly-vanilla minetest_game server | digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 | Clients: 1/50, 1/2 | Version: 0.4.10-dev / minetest_game | Ping: 116ms 10:05 Amaz !server meow 10:05 MinetestBot Amaz: Meowtest 0.4.10 "SEGFAULTY" | minetest.org:30018 | Clients: 0/25, 1/4 | Version: 0.4.10 / meowtest_game | Ping: 402ms 10:50 Megaf Hi all 10:50 Megaf Wheres VanessaE? 10:51 Megaf !seen VanessaE 10:51 MinetestBot Megaf: vanessae was last seen at 2014-08-09 00:29:36 UTC on #minetest 10:51 raffahacks hi megaf 10:51 raffahacks i was looking for her too :) 10:51 Megaf !tell VanessaE http://paste.debian.net/114818/ /mods/areas/api.lua:5: attempt to index local 'pos' (a nil value) 10:51 MinetestBot Megaf: yeah, sure, whatever 10:52 twoelk should be early morning where she lives 10:52 Megaf 11:52 here :) 10:53 raffahacks 12:53 here 10:55 twoelk uhm 6.54 am east coast USA? 10:55 raffahacks megaf: r u english? 10:56 Megaf Nope, but I’m in Dublin, Ireland 10:56 raffahacks ok, gmt 0 10:56 raffahacks i am in italy, +1 10:59 Megaf Actually we are at GMT +1 here, baucase of summer time 10:59 raffahacks ah ok 10:59 PenguinDad s/GMT/UTC/ 11:02 twoelk well whatever the complete correct expression is for the current time of middle Europe, that's valid for me at the moment :-) plus some nightowl lag of course 11:03 Megaf That’s quite interesting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Ireland 12:07 someguy ahm 12:39 jojoa1997 hi :) 12:40 PenguinDad Hi jojoa1997 13:40 * Jordach mews at sfan5 and LemonLake 13:41 LemonLake Jordach: what's up? 13:41 Jordach LemonLake, just got in 13:41 Jordach and by next Sat. my Nokia Lumia (which is my bros) is back from repairs 13:41 Jordach tl;dr he managed to melt the USB charge port 13:42 LemonLake and why are you alerting me of a meow? 13:42 LemonLake what have i done? 13:50 Jordach LemonLake, just meowing :3 14:15 bitsflashing hello 14:15 Matsetes_ Hello 14:16 bitsflashing how would I join the irc channel of a server? 14:34 Jordach *useless gateway webchat users* 15:08 * jp___ câline le Calinou. 15:30 Jordach :D 15:31 Vyle how long does it take until you get an activation email from the forum? 15:31 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 15:34 PenguinDad D: wasn't logged but :D was :) 15:34 sfan5 Vyle: 5 minutes 15:35 Vyle oh, i still haven't got it and i registered hours ago 15:37 Calinou did you type your e-mail right? 15:37 Vyle yes, i did 15:38 * Jordach might have found another way to clone Slamacow's model features https://cdn.mediacru.sh/UEymL3KClFOq.png 15:50 * Jordach thinks Vanessa's IRC server died 15:50 Jordach there we are 15:52 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 15:54 Sompi missä zombit on 15:54 Krock hi. 15:55 Vyle hey 15:55 PenguinDad Moin Krock 15:55 Krock moin PenguinDad 16:00 Sompi ei ole zombeja tuossa pelissä 16:00 Sompi pask peli 16:01 PenguinDad Is this finninsh? 16:01 away yes 16:01 PenguinDad -n 16:01 Sompi yes 16:03 Krock away, liar. you're here. :P 16:03 * sfan5 meows at Krock 16:03 * Krock meows at sfan5 16:04 PenguinDad Sompi: If you want zombies you should try the creatures mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=8638 16:04 MinetestBot VanessaE: 08-11 15:51 UTC http://paste.debian.net/114818/ /mods/areas/api.lua:5: attempt to index local 'pos' (a nil value) 16:04 sfan5 wow 16:04 sfan5 tell.py worked 16:04 sfan5 for once 16:05 Jordach VanessaE, your server is shitting itself IRC-wise 16:06 Jordach >147 hour of TF2 16:06 Sompi I want Herobrine 16:06 sfan5 you have strange requests.. 16:06 Sompi :P 16:07 Krock sfan5, already worked some days ago 16:08 Krock I want toilet paper in minetest. 16:08 Krock which has dependencies for the poop mod 16:10 Vyle no 16:10 VanessaE Jordach: explain? 16:10 PenguinDad I want Herobrain :P 16:11 Krock ^ 16:11 VanessaE Krock: homedecor has toilet paper :P 16:11 Krock VanessaE, really? I'm afraif of updating... 16:11 Krock *afaid 16:11 Jordach VanessaE, constand connection closed 16:19 VanessaE huh. 16:19 * VanessaE pokes ShadowNinja 16:20 Calinou >147 hour of TF2 16:20 Calinou “I've had way more, but now my counter is just stuck!” 16:20 Jordach Calinou, 1v1 me m8 16:21 VanessaE Jordach: when were these timeouts and who was having them? 16:22 Calinou Jordach, Command declined! 16:26 Jordach VanessaE, just me 16:29 onuba In a creative server, is allowed or is something to do against a player that connect, destroy with TNT all player's constructions, exit, wait a time and do it again, continuously during hours a day and one day after the other? 16:30 Jordach onuba, griefing isn't usually allowed on such servers 16:30 Calinou “creative griefing” is an oxymoron 16:30 Calinou but… ban the griefer? 16:30 Calinou /ban nickname 16:31 Calinou use https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9315 [xban] to ban players while they aren't online. 16:31 onuba but im not the admin of the server and i have enter to his web and there arent contact way 16:32 VanessaE Jordach: then I blame the connection between you and the server :P 16:32 Calinou then play on a server with better admins 16:33 Calinou or play singleplayer for creative 16:33 Calinou multiplayer creative is hell unless everything is protected or unless the server is private 16:33 * Jordach makes a gif 16:33 Calinou it's the exact same problem as Minecraft 16:34 Jordach the game isn't the issue, players are 16:34 Calinou like everywhere… 16:34 Jordach !c 60/24.0 16:34 MinetestBot 2.5 16:44 onuba Ok, thanks for answers. The problem about 'play on a server with better admins' solution its that in the list of servers only are two and when i try to connect to the other doesnt works and i the server list of info i have never seen anyone, if i try now it sticks on 'connecting to the server' step. About play singleplayer, yes, i probably will do something but i was searching about cooperative 16:44 onuba games. In relation to this, thanks for the game to the people who works in it. 16:45 Jordach onuba, stuck usually means downloading mod media / other stuff 16:45 Jordach let it be and you'll join in time (i remember the days of joining VE-Survival without cURL) 16:47 Krock Jordach, > now it sticks on 'connecting to the server' ste 16:47 Krock Jordach, loading media is at "media" 16:49 sfan5 'its that in the list of servers only are two' 16:50 sfan5 onuba: is the 'public server list' checkbox checked? 16:50 Krock are you using freeminer? 16:50 * sfan5 curls up to Jordach's lap 16:50 * sfan5 wgets up to Calinou's lap 16:50 Jordach meow 17:00 Calinou onuba, the problem is that *this kind of* cooperative game is full of griefers 17:00 Calinou despite not being so much about cooperation 17:00 Calinou it's due to the game genre and culture… same goes for it being full of kids 17:03 rubenwardy Hi all! 17:04 onuba Ok, i also think that, thats why about my surprise, the difference from the people that i read at the forum to the people that i found on the game. Something that i was writting before that last comment: 17:04 Calinou hi rubenwardy :) 17:04 Calinou we have (usually illegal) mobile clients around, so all the kids using smartphones/tablets are attracted towards the game (generally because they can't buy Minecraft PE) 17:04 Calinou they can't be blocked 17:04 Calinou but servers can be configured to block _most_ of them 17:05 Calinou but this isn't a default setting 17:06 onuba Im not sure about the meaning of this question: "is the 'public server list' checkbox checked?". I use this link http://servers.minetest.net/ to know about servers. In that list there are two with the 'cre' tag. And sorry, what happen when i try to enter isnt a stick in 'connection to server', what happen it is that the game 'not response' and i have to close. 17:10 onuba Krock, i didnt know about freeminer, thanks. I will read about. 17:10 Krock onuba, no. they have about 3 online servers..... 17:10 Krock that wasn't a suggestion to play it 17:10 onuba Ah, so why that question? 17:12 Krock onuba, cuz you told about too less servers in the list 17:13 PenguinDad Krock: freeminer shows mt servers in the list last time I checked 17:13 Krock PenguinDad, interesting, they also have the own server list.. 17:13 Jordach everyone on the freeminer hate train 17:14 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 17:15 onuba Ah, ok, i understand. Do you play any cooperative games, can you suggest me one? 17:15 * PenguinDad wgets onto the freeminer hate train 17:15 Calinou Freeminer and Minetest use the same default master server 17:15 PenguinDad Krock: look at the ping of the servers xD http://servers.freeminer.org/ 17:15 Calinou onuba, depends if first person shooters count ;) 17:16 Krock PenguinDad, yeah. amazing ping 17:16 PenguinDad NaN ftw 17:16 Calinou but the other way is, find a private Minetest server, or one that isn't on the list (look at the forums) 17:20 luizrpgluiz hi 17:25 onuba Ok, i will continue reading on the forum. About other games, i will continue with this http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor%C3%ADa:Videojuegos_libres (here english: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Open-source_video_games) how i noticed this: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest :) 17:28 onuba how -> as * 17:31 Krock >es 17:52 luizrpgluiz can anyone help me? wanted to create a custom mod biome 18:05 Krock luizrpgluiz, look at BFD 18:05 Jordach <3 18:05 Krock sry. I meant paramat's biome maod for mapgen v7 18:05 Krock *mod 18:07 Amaz Krock, BFD is probably better... 18:07 Amaz For that sort of thing. 18:07 Krock Amaz, your mapgen is best. 18:07 Krock the one about... uhm those plastic nodes 18:07 Amaz XD 18:08 Amaz Uses the BFD method. 18:09 luizrpgluiz BFD??? 18:09 Amaz Big Freaking Dig 18:09 Amaz https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig 18:12 Krock *Fckin' 18:17 * Krock gives sfan5 <°(((((-< 18:21 Calinou ><> 18:21 luizrpgluiz how do I download the development version minetest 18:21 * sfan5 licks Krock 18:22 Krock rrr 18:22 Krock luizrpgluiz, linux: compile self from github | windows: look at forums 18:24 Miner_48er why not enable debug level 1 in clients by default? The coordinates that provides is about universally used. 18:25 Calinou debug_log_level = 0 18:25 Calinou is best ;) 18:28 Krock yeah. 18:29 Miner_48er *debug info F% 18:29 Miner_48er *F5 18:31 Krock or print stacks! F6 :P 18:33 sapier hello did anyone ever use coroutines in minetest? 18:33 Amaz coroutines? 18:35 Miner_48er With the introduction of the mobile devices not having an F5 key, an alternative or enabled by default seems to be need. 18:37 Krock Amaz, same question. 18:38 Amaz At first I thought he meant coordinates.. 18:42 Krock ^ "ponies": "yes, please" 18:43 Krock LOL 18:43 Krock Location: Germany (DUS/Dusseldorf) 18:43 Krock Dusseldorf 18:44 PenguinDad sapier: kaeza did here https://github.com/kaeza/mapp/tree/threading 18:44 luizrpgluiz how do I activate the caves in minetest? 18:45 sfan5 caves should be activated 18:46 sapier thanks PenguinDad I guess I'll try to talk to him, cause I'm causing sigsegfaults on using it 18:51 luizrpgluiz is there any example of biome mod, or any mod that is simple 18:54 luizrpgluiz ? 18:55 Amaz THis is code that registers a biome: https://gist.github.com/Amaz1/eee1efcbf6c483d0e03f (For mgv7) 19:04 Krock any idea why additional inventory slots (bags) aren't saved at the same times as the rest of the inventory? 19:36 sfan5 holy shit 19:36 sfan5 how many registers does a GPU have 19:36 luizrpgluiz someone has a tutorial on how to make a biome mod or other mod? 19:36 sfan5 > add.s32 %r672, %r8056, %r671; 19:36 sfan5 excerpt from code generated by nvidia gpu compiler 19:45 luizrpgluiz I loved the update can render the game in direct3d and software 19:50 sfan5 that are mostly features of Irrlicht 19:52 luizrpgluiz yes, but when I put in Direct3D 8, simply does not open, it opens but it closes after 20:07 Jordach WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 20:07 Jordach that insect buzzing noise is gone 20:07 sfan5 CATS 20:07 sfan5 meow 20:07 * Jordach unplugged the noisy 500gb WD drive 20:08 Jordach mew! 20:08 Jordach and instantly away 20:09 EvergreenTree Hello people of #minetest 20:09 EvergreenTree sorry 20:09 Jordach EvergreenTree, /back 20:09 EvergreenTree I was away when I closed quassel 20:09 EvergreenTree Ik 20:09 EvergreenTree It takes a little bit for it to respond 20:09 * sfan5 meows at EvergreenTree 20:09 Jordach inverse kinematics, yes please :3 20:09 EvergreenTree Also, I think I am an Ent 20:10 EvergreenTree Well, an Evergreen Ent 20:10 Jordach EvergreenTree, /nick Groot 20:10 Jordach >:D 20:10 EvergreenTree I got a CM 212 Evo 20:10 EvergreenTree It's much better then that stock amd cooler 20:11 Jordach ooh 20:11 * Jordach feels like a PCMasterRace peasant 20:11 EvergreenTree Also: https://soundcloud.com/monstercat/fool-keep-on-rocking 20:15 PenguinDad EvergreenTree: Nice song you found there :) 20:15 EvergreenTree Monstercat ftw 20:18 PenguinDad https://mediacru.sh/T3iYIWEKPJw2 D: 20:19 EvergreenTree oh noes 20:25 blaise !server MidnightSystems 20:25 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 1/25, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 891ms 20:25 blaise !up midnightsystems.net 20:25 MinetestBot midnightsystems.net:30000 is up (409ms) 20:26 blaise how do I iluminate the street lights? 20:31 * VanessaE peeks in 20:32 * Jordach meeps 20:33 * PenguinDad squawks 20:34 VanessaE hi all. 21:13 xbx how do i make a minetest server? 21:19 VanessaE you need a good PC or dedicated server or VPS, high speed internet and minetest. 21:19 VanessaE that's all 21:19 VanessaE there are articles on the forum and on the minetest wiki explaining it 21:19 VanessaE but basically it amounts to running the server program, pointing it at a properly-set-up config file, a world to play in, and a game to play with. 21:32 xbx how do i make a minetest server? 21:33 VanessaE I just told you. 21:33 VanessaE [08-11 17:21] you need a good PC or dedicated server or VPS, high speed internet and minetest. 21:33 VanessaE [08-11 17:21] that's all 21:33 VanessaE [08-11 17:21] there are articles on the forum and on the minetest wiki explaining it 21:33 VanessaE [08-11 17:22] but basically it amounts to running the server program, pointing it at a properly-set-up config file, a world to play in, and a game to play with. 21:34 xbx where do i get the server program? 21:34 VanessaE the easy part is setting up a server. the hard part is maintaining it (meaning: admin duties to your users and the world, keeping your mods up to date, etc) 21:34 VanessaE the server program comes with the client. 21:34 VanessaE minetestserver, or minetest.exe --server 21:34 VanessaE (linux, or windows respectively) 21:34 xbx run a command line? 21:34 VanessaE yes 21:35 xbx im on windows 8 and i never did this befor 21:35 VanessaE don't use windows to run a server. 21:35 VanessaE it is not meant for that. 21:35 VanessaE use a linux box or do it with some nice paid-for VPS or dedicated server machine 21:35 xbx linux box? 21:36 VanessaE A computer running the Linux operating system. What most of the internet runs on. 21:36 VanessaE (same thing that powers Android tablets/phones, too) 21:37 xbx i only have one computer thats decent and no money so i think im screwed 21:37 VanessaE not screwed. 21:37 VanessaE just don't expect to run a server 24/7 21:37 VanessaE you CAN run one from windows 21:37 VanessaE but it is not the preferred way 21:38 xbx i never run servers 24/7 21:38 VanessaE almost everyone else does :) 21:38 VanessaE nearly all of the internet (read: 99.999% of it) is 24/7 21:38 xbx well they probably have more money than i do 21:38 VanessaE naw 21:38 VanessaE my dedicated server only costs US $29/mo. 21:39 VanessaE that's less than I pay for internet access. 21:39 xbx yea i have $0 21:39 VanessaE then you'll have to run it on your home PC 21:39 VanessaE you got high speed internet? 21:39 VanessaE e.g. DSL or cable or so? 21:39 xbx the only os i have is windows 8 21:39 xbx im on wireless 21:40 VanessaE wireless is insufficient. 21:40 xbx dsl internet i have thought 21:40 xbx though* 21:40 VanessaE the PC will need to be connected to your router via a cable. wireless will be too unreliable. 21:41 xbx thats kinda hard for me because my parents computer is next to the box 21:41 VanessaE yeah, you're not in a good position to run a server. 21:42 xbx i ran minecraft servers before on wireless but ur right my upload speed is .70mbps 21:43 luizrpgluiz someone is Brazilian or Portuguese? I made ​​a tutorial video to play minetest in Direct3D 9 21:43 xbx im american 21:43 VanessaE well you'll have about the same success with a minetest server as with the other game. 21:44 VanessaE you can try it if you want but I don't recomment it 21:44 xbx yea, not alot of people play it anyways 21:44 VanessaE 700 kbps is really quite slow, not enough to handle anything but a very basic game (due to the media upload required) 21:45 xbx i can play games like star wars the old republic and other mmos 21:45 proller but minetest cant send more than ~1mbps 21:45 VanessaE those don't involve sending tons of data TO someone else. 21:45 VanessaE proller: incorrect. minetest can do about 5 Mbps without cURL. 21:46 proller on 24 cores xeon ? 21:46 xbx my wireless speed is 72mbps 21:46 VanessaE proller: on a 2-core 3.4 GHz i3. 21:46 VanessaE xbx: maybe 54 Mbps, but that doesn't matter, what matters is your upstream over the DSL. 21:47 xbx would it be a problem if my wireless adapter driver needs updated? 21:48 VanessaE xbx: no. the bottleneck here is that wireless is inherently prone to noise. 21:49 VanessaE xbx: it doesn't take very much outside interference to cause a wireless signal to crap out for a moment, and in gaming, this can lead to lag and disconnectsa. 21:49 VanessaE -a 21:49 xbx ok... 21:49 VanessaE xbx: even your home microwave oven can cause noise on Wifi. 21:49 VanessaE (depending on its proximity and its age) 21:50 xbx my computer is the next room from the router 21:50 VanessaE xbx: point is, don't run a server over wireless. 21:50 VanessaE you want to run a server, run a wire to the router first. 21:51 xbx cant run a wire cause dont have any 21:51 VanessaE so buy some? 21:51 VanessaE cat 5e wire is cheap. 21:51 VanessaE get some next pay-day 21:51 xbx again $0 to my name and my parent gets all the money 21:52 xbx i dont have a job, i live with my parent 21:52 VanessaE you can get a spool of 100 feet of cat 5e cable for $20. 21:53 VanessaE get some ends and a crimping tool (about $25 for the set) and you're all set 21:53 xbx starting college soon, wouldnt be if it wasnt for financial aid so i guess ill chicken out on it 21:53 xbx on the server 21:53 VanessaE or, 21:53 VanessaE you know, 21:53 VanessaE you could, 21:53 VanessaE you know...get a JOB. 21:54 VanessaE oh G*d I sound like my parents. 21:54 xbx i have problems with my anger so i cant job, im waiting on a call from wendys where i put a application in 21:55 VanessaE when I was in college, about 20 years ago, I also held down a full-time job. How the hell I remained sane, I don't know (but that's a different matter), but I did it. 21:55 VanessaE if I could, despite being disabled, so can you. 21:55 VanessaE I won't accept "anger issues" as an excuse. 21:55 VanessaE sorry. 21:55 VanessaE don't wait for them to call - you call them instead. 21:55 xbx whateve 21:55 VanessaE they expect you to call. 21:55 VanessaE shows you're interested in working. 21:56 VanessaE else they'll toss your application in the "forget about this guy" file. 21:56 xbx i just dont like bugging people im kinda shy! 21:56 VanessaE they're an employer. 21:56 VanessaE they expect you to "bug" them 21:57 VanessaE *grumble* 21:57 VanessaE G*d damned entitled kids. 21:57 VanessaE FUCK 21:57 VanessaE me fumes 21:57 * VanessaE fumes, too 22:06 GTRsdk so sad to see people who won't do anything to get money to improve their situation :/ 22:19 WindHero indeed, coding innovative mapgens IS a challenge 22:27 WindHero trying to create my own river generation method: https://mediacru.sh/rrt-ieys3D_O 22:27 WindHero ...not getting it right quite yet 22:31 VanessaE WindHero: ooooo nice 22:31 WindHero thanks, but it's VERY w.i.p. 22:32 WindHero I'm probably out of my mind for trying to make a mapgen, but it's fun anyway 22:32 VanessaE WindHero: the only downside I have ever really seen to these river attempts is that, because they all seem to use perlin noise, they all create eventual loops/circles of the rivers 22:32 VanessaE instead of the river perhaps crossing the map, or starting in one spot and running off the edge, etc. 22:32 WindHero aye, that is a problem 22:33 WindHero so far, that hasn't happened in my tests for some reason 22:33 VanessaE that and rivers never seem to consistently run "down hill" :) 22:33 WindHero BUT, they have run up sheer cliff faces.... 22:33 VanessaE but that's because we have no long-distance tens-of-km hills 22:34 WindHero that too 22:36 WindHero rofl 22:36 WindHero I gotta show this 22:36 * WindHero readies link 22:37 WindHero https://mediacru.sh/IDrtn2eG5Bsf 22:37 WindHero ^precisely why I'm crazy 22:43 WindHero ...yeah, I gotta completely rethink how I'm doing this. 22:59 VanessaE WindHero: what the...? 23:00 WindHero yup... 23:00 WindHero totally switched methods atm 23:00 WindHero I cannot stress the WIP enough 23:00 VanessaE heh 23:02 WindHero if only you could read perlin noise in a way to know when something is hill shaped 23:03 WindHero oh great, whole islands covered with water 23:04 WindHero I have tons of respect for successful mapgen coders. 23:05 VanessaE paramat is G*d where mapgens are concerned :) 23:07 twoelk yet his rivers only work randomly correct 23:08 WindHero xD 23:08 WindHero mmm, more like demi-god 23:09 WindHero OK, time for another test 23:09 twoelk I think noise is the wrong way to construct a real river 23:10 twoelk a river has to be constructed after the terrain is generated and by analyzing the possible course water could take 23:11 WindHero indeed, that would be the most accurate way 23:11 WindHero however, the processing time for that would be even longer than highlandpools 23:11 WindHero in other words: untenable 23:11 twoelk I don't think anyone has come up with the code for that in mt yet 23:12 WindHero no one has thought of how to get it right 23:12 WindHero and those who would have already seen that it would be complicated enough to lead to 60 s. chunk gen time 23:13 twoelk also the "waterdrop-model" does not work well with unknown parts of the map not generated at calculating time 23:15 VanessaE Aw man, wtf? Robin Williams committed suicide! :'( 23:16 WindHero WUT????? 23:16 twoelk the actor? 23:16 VanessaE yes 23:16 WindHero holy s*** 23:16 VanessaE http://abc7news.com/entertainment/actor-comedian-robin-williams-found-dead/253217/ 23:16 VanessaE http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/11/robin-williams-dead-dies_n_5670050.html 23:17 VanessaE saw on facebook first. those two ^^^^ links seem about as authoritative as I can find for original sources 23:17 WindHero why do actors do this.... 23:17 VanessaE fuck :( 23:18 WindHero ah, this is a little better: https://mediacru.sh/IleYlZ0udUaE 23:18 VanessaE WindHero: not bad 23:18 Exio http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/senior_year/sex_ed.png 23:20 WindHero I'm not even gonna click that link. 23:21 twoelk no sex included 23:21 Exio it is safe for work 23:21 Exio really 23:21 WindHero welp, my mom certainly is disappointed in Williams' decision on what to do 23:21 VanessaE Exio: hahah 23:22 Exio full comic http://theoatmeal.com/comics/senior_year 23:23 WindHero gonna try making the rivers occasionally get hidden by the ground 23:24 twoelk hm does mt work as replacement for wow (in that joke)? 23:24 VanessaE twoelk: only if it runs dreambuilder ;) 23:24 Exio twoelk, online games for as replacement 23:25 twoelk internet the guarantee for safer sex and raising virgin age 23:26 Exio note: facebook doesn't count as online game 23:27 Exio actually, it makes stuff worse! 23:28 * WindHero shuns the book of face 23:29 WindHero hrngh, every time I try going beyond the point in the last pic I posted here, I mess something up 23:29 WindHero I think I'll work on another aspect and come back to rivers later. 23:32 WindHero I'm calling the mg 'protogen', but it really should roflgen or failgen 23:34 twoelk reading mt-dev logs I now have official proof of what causes this: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/UVJju8J1LV4r.png 23:35 WindHero ?! 23:35 twoelk invivible flying islands http://imgur.com/upjvf46 23:35 twoelk *invisible 23:36 WindHero that's..... idk 23:37 twoelk so that's how you create skylands, turn cavegen in the sky to use stone for cave-air :-) http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2014-08-11#i_3863277 23:38 twoelk haha http://i.imgur.com/ZU3F75t.png 23:40 WindHero rofl 23:42 WindHero dev logs: better entertainment than YouTube 23:42 twoelk hm, just today I visited some old mines on VE-survival that I had been sure had been mined clear of ores, yet they seemed to have regenerated with even more ores 23:42 WindHero but yes, twoelk, that is one way to make skylands, but in return you break cave generation 23:43 WindHero so it's safe to say that paramat and I use a completely different method ;) 23:43 twoelk just add a hight level for the switch of cave-air 23:45 twoelk but back to them mines on VES. so does mapgen repopulate allreaddy generated terrain? 23:45 WindHero so tell me, how do you plan to add biomes? 23:45 WindHero no, not that I know 23:45 twoelk look at the pics, mapgen adds some biome stuff 23:46 WindHero what about them savannas? :3 23:46 WindHero or heaven realms? 23:46 WindHero it's surprising how even on well-travelled servers, people will still leave ores in cave walls alone 23:48 twoelk aw come on, I have spent hours in your skylands, they are great, so no fear 23:48 WindHero xD 23:49 WindHero sorry, no offense, I was merely having fun 23:49 WindHero (humor is so hard to get across on the internet) 23:49 WindHero glad to know you've been playing in the skylands though. :D 23:49 twoelk but the point with them regenerated cavewalls is, that sometimes cavegen in the air seems to munch it's way through built up areas doing mapgen-grieving 23:50 WindHero that's odd... 23:50 Sokomine cavegen is unstoppable once it's set loose. it munches through my villages as well 23:50 VanessaE it's hungry! 23:50 WindHero there is one thing that stops cavegen: 23:51 WindHero ...the timing xD 23:51 WindHero no really 23:51 * Sokomine feds some chests with stacks of cobble to the hungry caveben :-) 23:51 WindHero it's is_ground_content in the node defs 23:51 Sokomine is_ground_content is of limited help. i can't set that for all materials i use. some villages are built out of materials like stone, sandstone etc. - mapgen eats that 23:52 VanessaE use fake stone then :) 23:52 Sokomine that would be an option. the drawback is that i'd have to define extra nodes - just to satisfy cavegen! 23:53 WindHero look at skylands, that one has to redefine SO MANY NODES D: 23:53 twoelk VE-almostvanilla had some severe griefing south of spawn, that by now I would clearly see as mapgen-grieving weeks after the region was beeing build apon by players 23:54 WindHero another way to stop cavegen: 23:54 WindHero use singlenode and a custom mapgen, like watershed 23:57 twoelk moving this building around with WE, I had lots of issues with cavegen in the air https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7304&p=150822#p150822 23:57 twoelk it munched away at the building and added grass toppings 23:58 Sokomine windhero: the point of mg_villages is to make the villages usable in any mapgen. in mg, they work fine already. that uses singlenode and a lua mapgen plus a diffrent cavegen 23:58 Sokomine twoelk: i can imagine. use //mtschemcreate instead of //save 23:59 WindHero Sokomine, I know, I wasn't saying that for your villages in particular 23:59 * twoelk likes the human readable format