Time Nick Message 00:44 * Jordach starts installing Dota 2 00:46 Jordach pitriss, i killed my server due to unbearable ping in TF2 04:13 Exio4 what do you think about a RAID 0 of three usb keys? 04:15 Miner_48er Exio 04:15 Miner_48er Exio4 what are you attempting with RAID? 04:15 Exio4 what? 04:15 Exio4 a RAID 0 of usb keys, for a full OS system 04:16 Miner_48er so you need more space to store the OS? 04:16 Exio4 i'm running a full setup in an usb key right now, but wouldn't mind have a failback if this USB key fails, and thinking about converting this "into" a RAID0 04:16 Exio4 RAID 0 is mirror raid 04:17 Exio4 isn't it? 04:17 Miner_48er no 04:17 Miner_48er RAID 1 04:17 Exio4 damn 04:17 Exio4 confused them like always 04:17 Exio4 well, whatever, RAID1 04:19 Miner_48er are all three usb drives the same size? 04:19 Exio4 16gb 04:21 Miner_48er ok what's the size of the OS? 04:21 Exio4 i have another 8gb key i'm not going to fit here, two of them are kingston and bought them with a 2 weeks time-difference, the other is a new nearly-new "noname" usb key (want to use it for mainly for "just-in-case") 04:21 Exio4 uh? 04:22 Exio4 right now the OS is 8~ gb with my data there 04:22 Exio4 but why? 04:22 Exio4 does that matter? 04:24 Miner_48er to see if it would fit 04:24 Exio4 i know it would "fit" 04:24 Exio4 i'm using a "non-RAID" setup with 1 usb key right now 04:25 Exio4 wanted to convert this to RAID 04:26 Miner_48er ok what are you planning to do with the extra usb? 04:26 Exio4 a mirror raid 04:27 Exio4 wanted to know if anyone tried this, or anything 04:27 Miner_48er have you looked at RAID 1E? 04:29 Exio4 not really 04:29 Exio4 sounds like some windows-only solution though 04:31 Miner_48er no 04:32 Exio4 wow, sounds kinda nice 04:32 Exio4 but i really only want a mirror raid 04:33 Exio4 i don't want more space, i'll be killing the usb keys and want to know my data is somehow "safe" 04:34 Exio4 linux md raid 10 04:34 Exio4 neat 04:37 Miner_48er BeyondRAID would be nice for a larger setup 04:38 Miner_48er How are you planning to implement it? 04:45 Miner_48er this may help https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup#RAID-1 04:47 Exio4 yeah 04:48 Miner_48er Exio4 you backed up your data before trying right? 04:48 Exio4 uhm? 04:49 Miner_48er good 04:49 Exio4 i've a backup but i haven't tried anything so far 05:34 blaise !server MidnightSystems 05:34 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 0/25, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 339ms 05:34 blaise yay! 05:37 blaise I still can't get fricken unified inventory working 05:37 blaise :( 05:37 blaise wiped my server, and my client 05:38 blaise damn inventory plus wont go away 05:38 blaise wtf 05:43 Miner_48er 3 places it could be your game mods, mods, or world mods 06:18 blaise meh 06:19 blaise I tossed my ~/.minetest 06:19 blaise and it's not on the server. 06:20 blaise the directory is gone, and it's turned to false in the world.mt 06:20 blaise and it's not client side.. 06:20 blaise I'm like 06:20 blaise :o 06:20 * blaise blinks 07:27 Megaf Hi everyone 07:33 Calinou for crafting recipes in forum threads, I thought of using block-like character(s) and colours 07:34 Calinou but this is trickier, very hard to edit, not colourblind-friendly 07:34 Calinou hi Megaf :) 07:34 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9891 07:34 Calinou new mod 07:35 Megaf Calinou: for recipes I believe a good solution is as lots of people are doing already, using a symbol and a legend 07:39 Matsetes_ What' s different with jumping mod? 07:39 Calinou Matsetes_, new textures, tweaked recipes, more balanced, code cleanup… 07:39 Calinou as usual with most Carbone-originating mods 07:40 Matsetes_ Ok =) 07:50 Megaf !up mineteset.megaf.info 30003 07:50 MinetestBot mineteset.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down 07:50 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 07:50 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (526ms) 07:55 sfan5 !tell Krock a cat \o/ 07:55 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever 07:55 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 07:55 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 08:00 Megaf so, one block - 16x16x16, right? 08:01 PenguinDad Megaf: one block == 4096 nodes 08:01 PenguinDad !c 16**3 08:01 MinetestBot 4096 08:01 Megaf I’m trying to figure out the volume one have to dig to find a nyam cat for sure 08:01 Megaf https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua#L378 08:02 foreverip hello? 08:02 sfan5 hello 08:02 foreverip hello 08:03 foreverip i have a little question about minetest 08:03 PenguinDad !c (80**3)/4096.0 08:03 MinetestBot 125.0 08:03 foreverip well more like a bug 08:03 sfan5 just ask 08:03 Calinou just ask 08:04 foreverip_ hello again 08:04 foreverip_ did this channel just restart? 08:05 foreverip_ too much lag im quiting 08:06 PenguinDad 125 nyan cats in one abstract mapgenerator chunk at default chunksize O_o 08:06 sfan5 what? 08:06 foreverip_ i encountered a problem while playing minetest 08:07 sfan5 which problem? 08:07 Calinou Carbone has slightly more nyan cats, spawning at all altitudes 08:07 kahrl foreverip_: try a real IRC client instead of the web interface 08:08 Calinou the heads can make the best tools, the rainbows are good fuel 08:09 foreverip whenever i open minetest, the text wont load and it will say character conversion failure 08:09 Calinou what operating system do you use? 08:09 Miner_48er foreverip OS, mt version, any errors? 08:10 Calinou if Windows, do you use the official build on minetest.net? 08:10 PenguinDad foreverip: what is your system language set to? 08:12 foreverip_ ugh too much lagg for me 08:12 kahrl foreverip_: try a real IRC client instead of the web interface 08:12 foreverip_ anyways heres a link for a image when i play minetest: http://www.noelshack.com/2014-32-1407564611--.png 08:13 Calinou whoa 08:13 Calinou your Minetest seems to be in a strange language 08:13 Calinou foreverip_, there should be a minetest.conf file. quit the game, open it, then add "language = fr" without the quotes 08:13 Calinou then start game 08:13 Calinou it'll force game to be in French (you seem to be French :P) 08:13 Calinou "language = en" forces English. 08:14 Calinou actually, not French, so just use English, nevermind about that 08:14 kahrl foreverip: perhaps try disabling that proxy 08:15 foreverip oh.. but i have to use it to connect 08:15 Miner_48er foreverip china? 08:15 foreverip i live in china where the government blocks everything!! i have to use a proxy 08:16 kahrl try a different one? 08:16 Calinou let's come back to the problem 08:17 Calinou did you try adding "language = en" to the end of minetest.conf, after quitting the game? 08:17 foreverip__ can u please reply to my forum post instead? 08:17 foreverip__ thx 08:17 foreverip__ too much lag for me on here 08:17 Calinou ah, I see it 08:17 Megaf PenguinDad: how big is a chunk? 08:17 sfan5 foreverip__: did you try a real irc client? 08:18 foreverip__ what? 08:18 Calinou posted 08:18 foreverip__ thx 08:19 Matsetes_ Dunno if 8x8 or 64x64 08:19 Matsetes_ Something like that 08:20 PenguinDad Megaf: one abstract mapgenerator chunk at default chunksize is 80*80*80 08:20 Matsetes_ Lol 08:20 Megaf 80 blocks or nodes? 08:20 PenguinDad Nodes 08:21 Matsetes_ What' s a node? 08:21 Calinou a node is the technical name of what you'd generally call a Block 08:21 Calinou eg. a steel block is a node. 08:21 Calinou same for dirt. 08:21 Matsetes_ So a 1x1 08:22 sfan5 ಠ_ಠ08:22 NSA I'm watching you 08:22 jp__ node != block 08:22 PenguinDad I can't render Kannada :( 08:22 Calinou I call them blocks. 08:22 sfan5 PenguinDad: which distro? 08:22 Calinou Kannada? 08:23 PenguinDad Debian Testing 08:23 Calinou sounds like Canada 08:23 Matsetes_ So what's a block? 08:23 sfan5 ugh 08:23 sfan5 debian 08:23 Calinou Matsetes_, a block, in technical language, is 16 × 16 × 16 blocks, what'd you generally call a chunk. 08:23 Calinou sometimes called MapBlock 08:23 sfan5 Calinou: no 08:23 sfan5 it's called MapBlock 08:23 sfan5 not block 08:26 kahrl !dev terminology 08:26 MinetestBot Sorry, did not find anything. 08:27 kahrl !dev Terminology 08:27 MinetestBot Sorry, did not find anything. 08:27 kahrl http://dev.minetest.net/Terminology 08:27 kahrl :( 08:27 kahrl anyway, it says: Blocks or Mapblocks are ... 08:32 Jordach if you want me today, go fuck yourself (i'm out till 6pm if i don't get a ride back and have to take the bus) 08:32 foreverip calinou thx for ur help but its still not solved 08:33 foreverip it didnt do anything and i posted a bit more on the forum post 08:34 Calinou I replied 08:34 Calinou make sure you have file permissions 08:34 Calinou else minetest.conf will never be written 08:35 kahrl foreverip: make sure it's minetest.conf not minetest.conf.example 08:38 sfan5 kahrl: can you please file an issue? https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/issues/new 08:38 kahrl sfan5: 404 08:38 Calinou minetest.conf.example does nothing to the game 08:38 sfan5 .. 08:39 jp__ Leave China. Problem solved... 08:39 kahrl oh I got it, just remove /new 08:39 sfan5 kahrl: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules just create an issue there.. 08:39 sfan5 jp__: leaving china is not that easy 08:39 jp__ no easier than leave USSR ;) 08:40 kahrl sfan5: huh, I can only create pull requests, not issues 08:41 sfan5 maybe I disabled issues 08:41 sfan5 hm 08:41 sfan5 I'll just put it into my todo.txt then 08:47 PenguinDad !dev PerlinNoise 08:47 MinetestBot "A 12perlin noise generator." - http://dev.minetest.net/PerlinNoise 08:47 foreverip @calinou sorry but it still doesnt work 08:47 PenguinHub Hi! 08:48 foreverip i posted new stuff on the forum 08:49 jp__ You don't need to re-install normally... 08:51 jp__ I think I've understand the issue... 08:52 jp__ Hmm, nvm. 08:56 foreverip @Calinou i posted a reply to the problem (its still not solved) 09:00 jp__ foreverip : create a minetest.conf in your Minetest folder and enter the line : language = en 09:24 warsloop hello 09:25 MinetestBot Krock: 08-09 12:55 UTC a cat \o/ 09:34 Matsetes_ warsloop Hello 13:56 Krock ^:D 13:58 PenguinDad Krock: You broke the silence! 13:58 Krock >:D 14:28 Krock aaand again! 15:01 jp__ !up Meowtest 15:01 MinetestBot jp__: Invalid Address 15:01 Krock !server meow 15:01 MinetestBot Krock: No results 15:02 Amaz !server krock 15:02 MinetestBot Amaz: Krock's Ultimative Platform | minetest.ntdll.net | Clients: 10/25, 7/18 | Version: 0.4.10-dev_MSVC / base | Ping: 460ms 15:02 Krock !server amaz 15:02 MinetestBot Krock: No results 15:02 Amaz :P 15:02 Krock :/ 15:02 jp__ !server two beers plz 15:02 MinetestBot jp__: No results 15:04 PenguinHub Who is MinetestBot? 15:05 PenguinHub !server mooo 15:05 MinetestBot PenguinHub: No results 15:05 Krock PenguinHub, /nick markv 15:06 markv ll 15:06 MinetestBot markv: 07-28 03:15 UTC Thank you! :) 15:07 markv Krock: What? 15:07 MinetestBot markv: 07-28 03:16 UTC Thank you! :) 15:07 Guest82232 wtf 15:07 Krock lol 15:07 Guest82232 WHat do I do now? 15:08 Krock rage 15:08 * Guest89892 rages silently 15:12 * Guest89892 detaches once again 15:32 PenguinDad !server Meow? 15:32 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No results 16:12 raffahacks VanessaE: are you here? 16:15 raffahacks Can I use a stereo 15W audio amplifier as a 30W amplifier? 16:16 PenguinDad :D http://somethingofthatilk.com/index.php?id=503 16:21 raffahacks thanks 17:08 rubenwardy Hi all! 17:20 LemonLake roman 17:27 blaise hrmm 17:27 blaise android build isn't compatable with unified inventory 17:35 Matsetes_ Android build? 17:51 Calinou (off-topic) Stunt Rally 2.4 is out: https://code.google.com/p/vdrift-ogre/ 17:53 rubenwardy What is the possibility of getting this stickied? Does it deserve to be stickied? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5831 17:53 B_S_D hi guys 17:54 rubenwardy Hello B_S_D 17:55 Calinou does this work with group:? 17:55 rubenwardy yes 17:56 * Jordach finally worked out what that scratching noise was 17:56 Jordach the arm of my second 500gb drive is loud as hell 17:59 Matsetes_ Lol 18:00 Jordach started copying over a GoG game and it stops 18:04 PenguinDad GnG games are better :P 18:05 blaise !server MidnightSystems 18:05 Calinou GPG! 18:05 MinetestBot blaise: MidnightSystems | midnightsystems.net | Clients: 2/25, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.10 / minetest | Ping: 1802ms 18:06 blaise holy crap! 18:06 blaise that's a lot of lag! 18:06 PenguinDad !up midnightsystems.net 18:06 MinetestBot midnightsystems.net:30000 is up (314ms) 18:07 PenguinDad ^ not so much in germany blaise 18:07 blaise it's on my LAN 18:07 blaise it's my server 18:08 blaise 13:07:49: ERROR[ServerThread]: MOBF: function spawner_entity_onstep_animal_vombie:vombie took too long: 3745.1799999999 ms 18:08 blaise lol 18:09 Calinou well, MOBF 18:09 Calinou here's your problem 18:09 Calinou use a simpler, faster mobs mod 18:10 blaise like what? 18:10 blaise simple mobs ? 18:10 blaise what mob mod has what mobf has to offer ? 18:11 blaise what's weird is, it was fine for quite a while... 18:11 rubenwardy MOBF has a lot more features than simple mobs, but that is also a disadvantag 18:11 rubenwardy +e 18:12 blaise but it's like, it just kept spawning mobs.. even though none were dieing 18:12 blaise seems like mobf needs some kind of population control 18:13 Calinou simple mobs ? 18:13 Calinou better: my fork of it :D 18:13 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9656 18:14 Calinou higher performance, better balance, some new features, an additional mob. 18:14 Calinou it's enough to fit the area of “something to make food of, something to be scared of” by far 18:14 Amaz Calinou: BrandoResses fork ftw! 18:14 Calinou may be slower 18:14 Amaz Probably... 18:15 Amaz But I love the mob vs mob combat :P) 18:15 blaise lol 18:15 Calinou cool to see, but not that useful. 18:16 Calinou my fork also has improved textures 18:16 Amaz Yeah... 18:16 Amaz https://github.com/Bremaweb/adventuretest/tree/master/mods/mobs 18:16 Calinou to make the dirt/stone monsters stand out 18:28 Krock yay! 2nd viewer of [scheduler] 18:38 PenguinDad Krock: You're the math.sin(math.pi/6)*4 viewer of that topic! 18:38 Krock PenguinDad, such maths. wow. amaze 18:38 PenguinDad !c math.sin(math.pi/6)*4 18:38 MinetestBot 1.9999999999999998 18:39 Krock !c math.floor(math.sin(math.pi/6)*4 + 0.5) 18:39 MinetestBot 2 18:39 Cryterion_ Hi everyone 18:39 PenguinDad !c math.floor(math.cos(math.pi/3)*4) 18:39 MinetestBot 2 18:39 Krock !c 1/3 + 2/3 + 1/3 + 2/3 18:39 MinetestBot 2.0 18:40 PenguinDad ^ Krock 18:40 Krock lol 18:40 Krock !c math.floor(1.2 + 1) 18:40 MinetestBot 2 18:40 Krock omg. 2. 18:41 Jordach PenguinDad, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/xkaqN8UtDND4.png 18:42 rubenwardy !c 2 18:42 MinetestBot 2 18:43 rubenwardy :O 18:43 PenguinDad Krock: this will produce a big number !c math.tan(math.pi/2) 18:44 Krock calc.exe gives: 0.027422438482097768583287991871187 18:44 Krock !c math.tan(math.pi/2) 18:44 MinetestBot 1.633123935319537e+16 18:44 Krock hm hm 18:45 PenguinDad Krock: calc.exe is possibly set to degrees instead of radians 18:45 Krock possible. 18:46 Krock Ungültige Funktionseingabe. 18:46 Krock :D 18:50 Cryterion_ 1.63312393532e+16 is what I get in KCalc on Linex 18:50 PenguinDad !c math.sinh(1) + math.cosh(1) == math.e 18:50 MinetestBot True 18:50 PenguinDad Yay 18:51 Krock uh 19:36 Krock VanessaE, could you live with just one post per topic/day? 19:40 VanessaE Krock: regarding what? 19:40 Krock dreambuilder 19:40 VanessaE well ordinarily that's just what I do. 19:41 VanessaE I edit and re-edit as I make updates so that I only ever give one post per day, unless others are posting. Then I make additional posts with the updates (otherwise the notifications will get lost in the noise) 19:43 Krock oh right. other time zones. 19:43 Krock for you it was on two days, for me on one 19:45 VanessaE besides can you imagine the inflated post count I'd have if I made one new post per update? :) 19:48 blaise VanessaE: hey, is there a way to get a listing of the pipeworks items? or do I have to read the lua ? :) 19:50 VanessaE there's a partial website, http://vanessae.github.io/pipeworks/ 19:50 ThatGraemeGuy blaise: use a mod that provides a searchable crafting guide 19:50 ThatGraemeGuy blaise: for example, unified_inventory 19:51 kaeza greetings 19:51 VanessaE it's pretty outdated though 19:51 VanessaE hey kaeza 19:51 PenguinDad Hi kaeza 19:51 kaeza what's up? 19:51 ThatGraemeGuy anyone know typical causes of this: 21:51:26: ERROR[ServerThread]: ServerEnv: Trying to store id=65497 statically but block (-8,-7,4) already contains 91 objects. Forcing delete. 19:51 VanessaE better to use a crafting guide as ThatGraemeGuy suggests. 19:51 VanessaE ThatGraemeGuy: a mod producing entities insanely fast? 19:52 ThatGraemeGuy mmm 19:52 kaeza probably some mob mod; those are usually the culprit 19:52 * kaeza hides signs_lib ugly entity management under the carpet 19:53 VanessaE kaeza: happens on my servers from time to time too, no mobs there 19:53 kaeza nothing to see here! 19:53 VanessaE haha 19:53 VanessaE ugly it may be, it doesn't go around randomly creating them either :P 19:55 Calinou dropping items by holding Shift + G can be a cause too 19:56 VanessaE shift-G? 19:56 VanessaE -Q? 19:57 Jp84 Calinou have an AZERTY keyboard... 19:57 kaeza maybe he uses GWERTY keyboard layout <_< 19:57 Krock channging keys... 19:57 VanessaE heh 19:57 Krock LOL 19:57 ThatGraemeGuy i want to go investigate but i'm having some insane lag issue tonight #$#$#@!#$W 19:57 Krock GWERTY 19:58 PenguinDad G actually is a quite nice key for dropping items on QWERT[ZY] and AZERTY 19:58 VanessaE kaeza: actually...mobs... it just occurred to me that there IS still one kind of MOB on my Dreambuilder servers: the mummies in the Pyramids mod. you don't suppose......? 19:59 Calinou I use G as drop key 19:59 Calinou in all games 19:59 Calinou so I'm used to it 19:59 kaeza VanessaE, haven't looked too much at it lately, but doubt it 20:00 VanessaE naw, I didn't think so either. 20:00 kaeza it used to be a bit conservative with the spawning 20:00 VanessaE "conservative"? HAH! walk into a pyramid, get swarmed with mummies :P 20:16 ThatGraemeGuy ah, someone has a quarry running there 20:23 Jordach http://youtu.be/_SEJsJh3VKQ 20:26 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: 08-06 23:36 UTC mobs now stay even when the server restarts, so no losing the special NPC 20:27 twoelk my treemonster houseguests didn't want to stay 20:31 blaise would be nice if the irc module showed if and what the disconnect was if it wasn't a normal parting 20:36 skittle_ .-. 20:37 skittle_ am i in the right #minetest? 20:37 zash Apparently not. 20:43 Krock !tell Halo What caused that problem? 20:43 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when Halo is around 23:04 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Move #includes from version.h to version.cpp 587167e 2014-08-10T01:03:52+02:00 http://git.io/HpQJdA 23:34 Jordach !tell asie I see you went back to that other game i see 23:34 MinetestBot Jordach: yeah, sure, whatever 23:34 Jordach context: http://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/2d21k6/asielib_028_adds_a_little_anvil_tweak/