Time  Nick           Message
00:01 RealBadAngel   ah, i found the one
00:01 RealBadAngel   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2oLYC5PigE
00:01 RealBadAngel   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnhM2w3CGkA
00:02 RealBadAngel   btw, funny to find pieces of your work after 20 yrs on youtube :)
00:02 lemonlake_     20 years?
00:02 lemonlake_     wow
00:03 RealBadAngel   yes, i made that 20 yrs ago
00:04 lemonlake_     nicee
00:04 lemonlake_     hmm, its at "setMaterial"
00:04 RealBadAngel   we were very funny generation
00:04 RealBadAngel   my friend had no monitor, borrowed one for a while
00:05 RealBadAngel   launched voice synthetizer that could do just the numebers
00:05 lemonlake_     hehe
00:06 RealBadAngel   that soft gave him byte by byte 16k of ZX Spectrum ROM
00:06 RealBadAngel   he wrote that down
00:06 RealBadAngel   and dissasembled the whole ROM
00:06 RealBadAngel   and wrote a bible for us
00:06 lemonlake_     a bible?
00:06 RealBadAngel   complete rom dissasembly
00:06 RealBadAngel   that was a fuckin bible
00:07 RealBadAngel   he made that at school, while having classes
00:07 lemonlake_     those were the days, huh?
00:07 RealBadAngel   jeez
00:07 RealBadAngel   i miss those days
00:07 RealBadAngel   we were fucking gos
00:07 RealBadAngel   gods
00:08 RealBadAngel   now all is optimized, objective and productive
00:08 RealBadAngel   which means for a customer go buy a faster pc
00:09 RealBadAngel   we had one hardware and we did better and better code
00:09 lemonlake_     okay
00:10 lemonlake_     i've been messing around with the code, "tried to set a texture not owned by this driver"
00:11 RealBadAngel   can i see your code?
00:11 lemonlake_     http://pastie.org/9445763
00:20 WindHero       https://mediacru.sh/Tsxx8Q6408M9
00:21 lemonlake_     RealBadAngel: did I mess up that bad?
00:21 lemonlake_     WindHero: that's actually really nice
00:21 WindHero       thanks
00:21 WindHero       still quite incomplete
00:22 WindHero       I have to make some schematics stil
00:23 WindHero       particularly involving those DM statues
00:23 lemonlake_     schematics?
00:23 WindHero       like how I have the parthenons in SkyLands?
00:23 lemonlake_     ah
00:23 WindHero       mtschem
00:23 WindHero       *.mts
00:23 lemonlake_     I know what a schematic is
00:23 lemonlake_     I just wondered what for
00:24 WindHero       I'm gonna have dungeon-esque structures
00:24 WindHero       complete with lava-surrounded DM statues
00:24 RealBadAngel   lemonlake_,  reading your code now
00:25 lemonlake_     RealBadAngel: k
00:30 RealBadAngel   lemonlake_, and your compiler logs?
00:30 RealBadAngel   btw, still lava: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOnG19XYiSk&feature=youtu.be
00:30 lemonlake_     the build log?
00:30 RealBadAngel   yes
00:31 lemonlake_     That's nicer
00:31 RealBadAngel   thats for lava source
00:32 lemonlake_     hmm
00:32 lemonlake_     this is not letting me paste
00:32 lemonlake_     <lemonlake_> hmm
00:32 lemonlake_     <lemonlake
00:33 lemonlake_     wat
00:33 lemonlake_     http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KXszMbNp
00:44 lemonlake_     RealBadAngel: anything?
00:45 lemonlake_     RealBadAngel: Because I solved it. I was removing the textures when I shouldn't have been :P
00:52 lemonlake_     I got the light wrong tho :/
00:53 lemonlake_     RealBadAngel: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/dhD2R-ySZuM0.png
00:53 lemonlake_     Does that look correct to you?
00:54 RealBadAngel   shading is a bit wrong, but ok
00:55 RealBadAngel   lemme point you to correct code
00:55 lemonlake_     I'm at the correct code
00:55 lemonlake_     using the exact same values
00:55 lemonlake_     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/6f6f289db4a14045b1053b065e9bbac3d3cb0f33/src/tile.cpp#L1321
00:56 RealBadAngel   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/mapblock_mesh.cpp#L35
00:56 RealBadAngel   thats modified vertex manipulator code
00:56 lemonlake_     hmm
00:57 lemonlake_     can't be right
00:57 lemonlake_     looks identical to me
00:57 RealBadAngel   https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/mapblock_mesh.cpp#L1143
00:57 RealBadAngel   and here code that applies shading
00:57 lemonlake_     ahh... hardcoded face shading
00:57 RealBadAngel   yes
00:57 lemonlake_     this is for the real mapblocks
00:58 lemonlake_     incase you hadn't realised, mine is an inventory image :P
00:58 Sokomine       hmm. is there a way to avoid cavegen and mudflow attacks when using voxelmanip in on_generate?
00:58 RealBadAngel   lemonlake_, but it should be at least similar in lool
00:58 RealBadAngel   look
00:58 lemonlake_     looks exactly like the inventory images in-game
00:58 RealBadAngel   who told you that current look is right?
00:59 lemonlake_     my eyes
00:59 RealBadAngel   hehe
00:59 RealBadAngel   cube has to be clearly 3d
00:59 RealBadAngel   its not by now
00:59 RealBadAngel   shading can solve it
00:59 lemonlake_     okay then
00:59 lemonlake_     i'll implement that later
00:59 lemonlake_     bookmarked
01:00 RealBadAngel   your eyes can notice geometry when faces are different
01:00 lemonlake_     my eyes can notice geometry through common sense
01:00 RealBadAngel   but when textures are the same, its damn flat
01:00 lemonlake_     you do have a point
01:00 RealBadAngel   just like something on the floor stepped on it
01:01 lemonlake_     it still maintains it's volume, but the form has been modified
01:01 lemonlake_     in other words, everything is in the same place, just squashed
01:01 RealBadAngel   yup
01:02 lemonlake_     next up is to add the GUI
01:02 RealBadAngel   you should make separate app out of it
01:02 lemonlake_     whadya mean?
01:02 RealBadAngel   kinda modders tool
01:02 RealBadAngel   to generate high quality images for mods
01:02 lemonlake_     that's the whole intention ^.^
01:03 RealBadAngel   yes
01:03 lemonlake_     it's actual intention was to create inventory images for use on websites etc
01:03 RealBadAngel   and then engine wont have to do that any  longer
01:03 lemonlake_     but they can use it however they like
01:03 RealBadAngel   and i mean the engine
01:03 lemonlake_     as in, using this conventionally for nodes?
01:04 RealBadAngel   yes
01:04 lemonlake_     :o
01:04 lemonlake_     if that's the case, im surprised nobody beat me to this
01:04 RealBadAngel   so no more generate inv images on startup
01:04 lemonlake_     yes
01:04 lemonlake_     = super fast loading times
01:05 lemonlake_     im sure a lot of mods won't actually end up using this, but if at least the subgames can do it that'd save a lot of work for the engine
01:05 RealBadAngel   and the tool should land in the repo as helper utility
01:05 lemonlake_     :o
01:05 RealBadAngel   we can force usage of it
01:05 lemonlake_     lol okay
01:05 lemonlake_     we'll see what the other devs think
01:06 lemonlake_     tbh the hardest part of this proj is gonna be making it work with nodeboxes :/
01:06 RealBadAngel   im the one that cares bout FPS the most
01:06 RealBadAngel   and i gonna force it for sure
01:06 lemonlake_     my plan is to simply allow the user to supply their nodebox array (maybe later also a NBE file)
01:06 lemonlake_     in a textbox
01:07 lemonlake_     alpha works, that's good
01:08 RealBadAngel   one more thing
01:09 RealBadAngel   you could consider making here also extruded models
01:09 RealBadAngel   that is also pain in the ass
01:09 lemonlake_     what are extruded models?
01:10 lemonlake_     i saw it in the code, but didn't know what they were
01:10 RealBadAngel   current code fails for high resolution images
01:10 RealBadAngel   you do
01:10 RealBadAngel   wielded item
01:10 lemonlake_     ahh
01:10 lemonlake_     hmm
01:10 VanessaE       it doesn't just fail
01:10 RealBadAngel   the code that makes a mesh out of flat image
01:10 lemonlake_     maybe in the future when i understand stuff
01:10 VanessaE       it falls flat on its G*d damned face.
01:10 VanessaE       I mean it fails miserably.
01:10 lemonlake_     one thing at a time
01:10 VanessaE       :)
01:17 Vazon          VanessaE: do you know how to give the irc chat bot a proper name?? mine will not name
01:17 lemonlake_     Vazon: tlc
01:17 lemonlake_     it will learn it's name on it's own
01:17 Vazon          what? o.O
01:17 lemonlake_     just keep calling it by its name
01:18 Vazon          Crap i have feared the day when computers learn xD
01:18 lemonlake_     lol
01:18 Vazon          :3
01:21 VanessaE       Vazon: irc.nick = MyBotNameHere
01:21 VanessaE       in your minetest.conf
01:21 VanessaE       also irc.channel and irc.server will need to be set
01:21 VanessaE       obvious meanings for those
01:21 Vazon          it is set up and i did put that in the config and i didnt work
01:22 VanessaE       then you did it wrong. :P
01:22 VanessaE       it works for me, and I have 8 such bots.
01:22 Vazon          nope exactly like you siad
01:22 VanessaE       nope.
01:22 VanessaE       irc.channel = #minetest
01:22 VanessaE       irc.server = 192.99.11.10
01:22 VanessaE       irc.nick = VE-Survival
01:22 VanessaE       that's how mine's set
01:22 Vazon          ok
01:22 VanessaE       and I have irc.NSPass set also, of course.
02:07 lemonlake_     Aight, nodeviewer has a background color chooser thingy now
02:07 lemonlake_     https://cdn.mediacru.sh/it-maFjJPHhi.png
02:08 lemonlake_     Okay, now that that's done I'm gonna get some rest
02:09 lemonlake_     Tomorrow I'll add texture changing and exporting
02:09 lemonlake_     Goodnight all!
02:14 paramat        RealBadAngel, a request for improving faces shading, smooth lighting off shows how NS faces are now too similar to top face, currently: http://i.imgur.com/rtBcx7l.png compare to: http://i.imgur.com/5zf9m2L.png
02:15 VanessaE       I thought that was fixed?
02:16 paramat        it's less noticeable with smooth lighting on
02:22 paramat        Sokomine, 'is_ground_content = false' in node definition protects against cavegen. 'mgv6_spflags = nomudflow' in minetest.conf
02:24 Sokomine       paramat: thanks! vanessa said the same about ground content. i thought it was against floating flowers?
02:25 Sokomine       paramat: is there a way to disable mudflow for certain mapblocks? it can flow happily if it wants...but not inside my villages!
02:26 paramat        no :P
02:26 Sokomine       there are also these strange...one block wide and one block deep...lines...around the map
02:26 Sokomine       oh :-(
02:26 paramat        lines on chunk borders
02:27 paramat        caused by lowering terrain by voxelmanip in mgv6
02:27 paramat        thats why i asked hmmmmm for that flag
02:28 Sokomine       hm. what happens with nomudflow? are there any sideeffects on terrain as such?
02:30 paramat        couldn't be bothered with a minimap of mgv6 because boring on a large scale, innaccurate on a medium scale. but made a 3D minimap of watershed: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8609&p=150142#p150142
02:31 paramat        mudflow makes the terrain look aged and eroded by flowing mud from high unstable places to low places
02:54 VanessaE       it's been so long, I don't even remember what a map without mudflow looks like, save for those grid lines
02:55 VanessaE       I still wonder why the root of the problem never got fixe.
02:55 VanessaE       +d
03:01 Sokomine       paramat: hm, yes, boring on a large scale might be the effect of the mapgen. it works out pretty well for gameplay, but is very difficult to...regocnize where you built
03:05 Sokomine       hm. perhaps i ought to generate the terrain in general, then wait a few seconds, and generate anew?
03:30 paramat        Yes it's possible to use voxelmanip after 'on generated', you can use it in an abm triggered by a spawner node, this also enables you to update lighting
03:34 paramat        ... thats how i'm doing generative architecture http://i.imgur.com/7ZexCxm.png
03:47 VanessaE       bbl, bed
04:14 donat          Can someone explain me what the 'chance' field is supposed to mean in minetest.register_abm()? Thanks!
04:42 donat          Okay, I figured it out.
05:18 Exio4          "fullscreen isn't available on this video"
05:18 Exio4          wath
05:42 kaeza          lel
06:29 nman3600       こんにちは
08:19 Krock          moin
08:22 Krock          http://i.imgur.com/KXyQUbI.png
08:25 LemonLake      Krock: That's cool
08:25 LemonLake      What are the dark patches?
08:25 Krock          mountains
08:25 LemonLake      Ahh
08:26 Krock          it represents a yappy world but somehow I don't get the same maps..
08:26 Krock          (in minetest and in that program)
08:40 ThatGraemeGuy  is there any tool that will delete map blocks from a database that are outside a give x,z range?
08:40 LemonLake      ThatGraemeGuy: I can only think about editing it with a query
08:43 jp             http://i.imgur.com/ytgn3mk.png
08:43 jp             Fatal woman <3
08:44 ThatGraemeGuy  LemonLake: yeah, was just wondering if anyone has perhaps toyed with something like that before
08:44 LemonLake      ThatGraemeGuy: not really, haven't done maps or anything in MT
08:44 LemonLake      (not me)
08:44 LemonLake      jp: Where are you getting these models?
08:44 jp             Blenderswap
08:45 LemonLake      I see
08:45 jp             But there are a very few percentage of MT compatible...
08:45 jp             Like 5%.
08:46 ThatGraemeGuy  we have a world that has been extensively explored to some very far distances, but any building activity is constrained to a relatively small area around the origin point. problem is that we added a mod a while ago that adds new ores, and finding them is a pain becase ungenerated map blocks are pretty remote
08:47 LemonLake      You could regenerate the mapblocks
08:47 LemonLake      (by coding a little thing in lua, forgot how to do it tho)
08:48 Krock          LemonLake, http://i.imgur.com/8ciRhTP.png
08:51 LemonLake      that's looking nice
08:57 Krock          thx
09:01 ThatGraemeGuy  LemonLake: oh, cool, didn't realise that could be done
09:01 LemonLake      Irrlicht is nicer than I'd thought...
09:02 LemonLake      ThatGraemeGuy: Don't take my word for it, but I'm pretty sure that somehow with voxelmanip it can
09:04 ThatGraemeGuy  eek, way over my head :-o
09:15 ThatGraemeGuy  CREATE TABLE `blocks` (`pos` INT NOT NULL PRIMARY KEY,`data` BLOB);
09:16 ThatGraemeGuy  well that's pretty simple, if i can find how to relate 'pos' to x,y,z co-ords i could do what i want quite easily
09:21 Krock          one number is xy and z at once
09:25 ThatGraemeGuy  https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/database.cpp looks like it has what i need
09:46 LemonLake      Irrlicht tabs seem really confusing
10:30 Calinou        http://0bin.net/paste/SNKTFgzRfvlpwQez#gd9YADuQvNh73uLfK3wzwV99eTyEf9sehu2ZDBZ7KSO → with this, only monsters spawn, no animals, why? :/
10:37 twoelk         Krock, that map preview thing is very interesting. Have you compared the result with generated maps allready?
10:37 Krock          twoelk, yes I did but somehow it didn't work well:3
10:37 Krock          FOSSCON? hmm
10:39 jp             Fausse conne.
10:39 twoelk         mind sharing the app for some testing?
10:40 Krock          twoelk, it's C#, don't know if you can use that type
10:47 twoelk         ah, ok, indeed have been just compiling mt on xubuntu, cause I just cant get ok, will wait for an exe, not in the mood/not enough time to hassle with some windows compiler at the moment.
10:47 twoelk         gah
10:48 twoelk         dass for dem ok gehoert da nicht hin
10:48 twoelk         manno
10:48 twoelk         irc ist doof
10:49 twoelk         vor dem zweiten ok
10:51 twoelk         irc channel focus switch and I dont notice --- too dumb for IRC
10:51 * Krock        sent twoelk a PM but possibly he didn't notice it
11:03 LemonLake      Where did krock go? O.o
11:03 LemonLake      Usually he doesn't part at this time
11:08 twoelk         hm, every seed larger than 2147483646 is not acepted? (hoping Krock reads logs)
11:25 jp             http://i.imgur.com/mm2mDra.png    http://i.imgur.com/R8awW8c.png
11:33 e1z0           lol
11:33 RealBadAngel   hehehe
11:33 jp             Beautiful back eh ?
11:34 jp             (I'm talking about the car of course...)
11:34 RealBadAngel   some1 should make remake of DN3D map in mt
11:34 RealBadAngel   ofc with babes, lotsa babes ;)
11:34 kaeza          <3
11:35 RealBadAngel   and add bubble gum
11:35 jp             Oh yeah, I'm nostalgic of DN3D.
11:36 jp             all my childhood...
11:37 RealBadAngel   duke is freeware now so possibly one could use even original textures
11:37 jp             Oh yeah it's doable.
11:37 Jordach        freeware != freely licensed textures
11:37 jp             *Piece of caaake*
11:37 Jordach        get yer fucking facts right
11:37 RealBadAngel   im not sure bout it
11:37 Jordach        </calinou>
11:38 RealBadAngel   but what im sure theyre remakin duke out there
11:38 RealBadAngel   ive played one highly modified
11:38 RealBadAngel   with modern shaders and high res textures
11:39 RealBadAngel   and thats opensource project
11:42 RealBadAngel   Jordach, but makin a mod with a world could be definitely possible
11:42 RealBadAngel   heck, that could become a game
11:42 RealBadAngel   we do have firearms already
11:44 twoelk         that guy/game just wont die
11:45 RealBadAngel   no way
11:45 twoelk         wasn't that new DukeNukem version the game the term "vaporware" was invented for?
11:47 RealBadAngel   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1CXb3snDFE
11:48 RealBadAngel   thats lookin good
11:48 jp             RealBadAngel: http://i.imgur.com/KvoS0J8.png
11:48 RealBadAngel   oh yeah
11:49 twoelk         how did they do that reflection in the mirror?
11:50 twoelk         we need that rather than 100 sorts of killing somebody ;-)
11:52 RealBadAngel   irrlicht can do that
11:52 RealBadAngel   we just dont use irrlicht materials
11:55 twoelk         oh dear I can allready see him as next player model, I guess I'd rather have R2D2 then
11:57 Jordach        twoelk, come get sopme
11:57 twoelk         ?
11:58 jp             Hail to the king, baby!
12:02 twoelk         RBA, that reflection is a material as in animated texture or does irrlicht have a material that can reflect in real time? I thought the latter was not possible for mt
12:43 Guy09          Is anybody online?
12:43 Guy09          !dating
12:43 zash           That's not how you IRC
12:43 Guy09          Thought it wouldn't do anything
12:44 Guy09          !seen VanessaE
12:44 MinetestBot    Guy09: vanessae was last seen at 2014-08-02 06:25:09 UTC on #minetest
12:45 Guy09          man answers do take ages
12:46 Guy09          !Microchip
12:46 * PenguinDad   looks if he's online
12:46 Guy09          whoops
12:46 Guy09          !seen Microchip
12:46 MinetestBot    Guy09: microchip was last seen at 2014-04-06 01:25:23 UTC on #minetest
12:46 Guy09          there we go
12:49 Guy09          !seen Jordach
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12:50 Guy09          test somethin
12:50 Guy09          my bad spelling:p
12:50 Guy09          🐗
12:50 Guy09          omg it works :)
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12:51 Guy09          lol
12:51 PenguinDad     IT works :D
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12:52 Guy09          i am
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12:53 Jordach        PenguinDad, not my fault someone needs to gtfo out of the Jo name space
12:57 Guy09          !help
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12:57 Jordach        !ignore Guy09
12:57 MinetestBot    Jordach: 'Guy09!*@*' added to ignore list.
12:57 Jordach        hah
12:57 Jordach        stupid webclient doesn't open in new tab
12:58 PenguinDad     <3 MinetestBot
12:58 MinetestBot    <3 PenguinDad
12:59 twoelk         regarding the last seen querrys, is MinetestBot missing the last week history?
13:04 Jordach        Gethiox, where the fuck is this: https://github.com/gethiox/GXAudioVisualisation/blob/master/GXAudioVisualisation.py
13:09 Gethiox        Jordach: https://github.com/gethiox/GXAudioVisualisation
13:09 Gethiox        GxAV.py
13:16 lemonlake_     woop woop
13:16 lemonlake_     net split
13:16 PenguinDad     Splat.Split :D
13:16 jp             I've an issue for remove an entity : http://pastebin.com/3KDXYUyz
13:17 jp             I've an issue for remove an entity, init.lua : http://pastebin.com/3KDXYUyz    debug.txt : http://pastebin.com/hrjMS8yP
13:21 PenguinDad     jp: this should work http://paste.ubuntu.com/7961099/
13:21 RealBadAngel   seems like i have evening off
13:22 RealBadAngel   just brought home another 25kg of tomatoes
13:23 RealBadAngel   wonder who will make them, my gf already refused lol
13:23 jp             PenguinDad: it works, thanks very much ;)
13:23 RealBadAngel   and cats seems like not interested at all
13:24 PenguinDad     np
13:29 PenguinHub     hi1!
13:29 PenguinHub     *hi
13:29 Calinou        hi
13:29 Calinou        PenguinHug?
13:29 Calinou        Hub*
13:30 PenguinHub     Hi again
13:36 ThatGraemeGuy  hrmmm
13:36 ThatGraemeGuy  losing my mind a little
13:37 ThatGraemeGuy  so from the 'pos' value of a block in the db i've got some co-ordinates
13:37 ThatGraemeGuy  but these aren't the same as-in game co-ordinates and i'm too thick to figure out what they are :-/
13:37 ThatGraemeGuy  and how to relate them to in-game co-ords
13:38 lemonlake_     ThatGraemeGuy: divide the in-game coords by 80?
13:38 * PenguinDad   looks confuzzed at PenguinHub
13:38 lemonlake_     80 is the about of nodes in a mapblock
13:38 lemonlake_     80x80x80
13:39 Calinou        a node is 10 Irrlicht units (BS = 10)
13:39 Calinou        so position stored in eg. player files is multiplied by 10
13:39 PenguinDad     lemonlake_: that's a mapgenerator chunk at default chunksize setting
13:40 ThatGraemeGuy  I mean if a block in the db has 'pos=-469774354', that works out to (-18, -3, -28)
13:41 ThatGraemeGuy  but block -469774354 works out to  (-17, -3, -28)
13:41 * PenguinDad   rofls
13:41 ThatGraemeGuy  not sure how these relate to in-game co-ords
13:43 ThatGraemeGuy  uh second one should be -469774353 i meant, oops :-/
13:50 PenguinHub     Hi PenguinDad!
13:50 PenguinHub     Is Hub greater than Dad ?
13:50 PenguinDad     !c "PenguinHub" > "PenguinDad"
13:50 MinetestBot    True
13:52 PenguinDad     !c 2**16-1
13:52 MinetestBot     65535
13:53 PenguinHub     2**16-1?
13:53 PenguinHub     131072 is my fave number
14:04 FreeFull       Why?
14:06 Calinou        16777216!
14:07 Calinou        who is PenguinHub?
14:07 Calinou        separate NickServ account from PenguinDad
14:19 PenguinHub     !c
14:19 MinetestBot    PenguinHub: Nothing to calculate.
14:19 PenguinHub     cool
14:19 PenguinHub     !c (2^16)+(2^16)
14:19 MinetestBot        36
14:20 PenguinHub     that can't be right
14:20 PenguinDad     !c 2**16+2**16
14:20 MinetestBot    131072
14:21 PenguinDad     PenguinHub: ^ is some bitwise operator in python
14:24 PenguinDad     !c (2|16)+(2|16)
14:24 MinetestBot        36
14:35 ThatGraemeGuy  ok so now that i've figured out the conversion from a "pos" value to/from co-ordinates, can anyone comment on whether it ought to be safe to remove blocks from the map DB?
14:44 PilzAdam       ThatGraemeGuy, should be safe as long as no Minetest instance is accessing it
14:45 PilzAdam       but you should always create backups
14:45 ThatGraemeGuy  thanks PilzAdam
14:45 ThatGraemeGuy  yes, of course will make a backup copy and do a fair amount of testing as well
14:47 ThatGraemeGuy  we have a relatively small world that a handful of us play on, and at some point in the past someone did a ton of exploring, so after i recently added technic, we're finding that new ores are not to be found anywhere close to where most people are typically doing stuff
14:47 ThatGraemeGuy  want to remove generated blocks on the edge of the small "active" area so they can regenerate with new stuff in them
14:48 ThatGraemeGuy  that's the plan at least
14:50 Krock          Olleh
14:51 PilzAdam       ThatGraemeGuy, in theory that should work
14:53 ThatGraemeGuy  cool, thanks PilzAdam
15:16 Krock          no. that's enough.
15:36 jp             Krock: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9873
15:37 Krock          jp, full 3d?
15:37 jp             yep
15:37 Krock          uuh
15:37 Calinou        CC isn't a license
15:37 Calinou        “These models are licensed under a CC license by their authors.”
15:38 jp             Look the link on the author names
15:38 Calinou        nice girl doing the finger
15:38 Calinou        by the way, many of these models are also fan art
15:39 SylvieLorxu    jp: I agree with Calinou, which CC license? There are 6 or 8 of them or so
15:39 jp             The only condition is to mention the author, as precised.
15:39 SylvieLorxu    So, CC-BY?
15:39 SylvieLorxu    Version 1? 2? 3? 4?
15:39 jp             The others are free-ti-use I think.
15:39 sfan5          Calinou: maybe they meant CC0? or CC-BY-SA?
15:39 jp             to*
15:40 SylvieLorxu    "Free to use" in which cases?
15:40 jp             Free completely
15:40 jp             no license
15:40 PenguinDad     No license ~= Free
15:40 jp             Look the links for more precision, I'm not expert of that
15:41 SylvieLorxu    No license == Non-Free
15:41 Krock          !license == !free
15:42 sfan5          SylvieLorxu: no license means all rights reserved, doesn't it?
15:42 Krock          !(license != free)
15:42 SylvieLorxu    sfan5: Exactly
15:43 PenguinDad     Three of these models are Personal use only :/
15:44 jp             So I can't post them on public ? It's a pity :(
15:45 PenguinDad     And all of these three models weren't created with blender :D
15:48 Calinou        <sfan5> SylvieLorxu: no license means all rights reserved, doesn't it?
15:48 Calinou        yes, by Berne convention and such
15:49 jp             What should I do, Calinou ?
15:50 jp             Remove the non-licensed models ?
15:51 Calinou        your models do have a license (it's a requirement for uploading on Blendswap), but many seem to have a non-commercial clause, which is bad (but tolerated on the forums)
15:51 Calinou        but… are they all from Blendswap?
15:51 Calinou        preferably, they should be, not from some shady source
15:51 Calinou        (rip-offs are frequent)
15:51 jp             6 for Blenderswap
15:51 Calinou        “free-to-use” probably isn't allowed on forums
15:51 Calinou        too broad, too many restrictions
15:52 jp             Ok I remove the 3 non-licensed.
15:53 jp             Shit :(
15:53 jp             I'm really disappointed
15:53 * PenguinDad   gives jp a Flash Cookie
15:54 Calinou        it's not like these models fit into Minetest
15:54 Jordach        one can always ask the resident modder ;0
15:54 Jordach        modeler
15:54 Jordach        (i need my fucking coffee right now)
15:55 PenguinDad     TIL Jordach drinks coffee
15:55 Jordach        PenguinDad, namely double or quad espressos in case of two hours sleep and have to be in the city
15:56 Jordach        (yes i can pull 24 hours without needing to nap)
15:58 jp             Btw Calinou, the 6 models from Blenderswap are CC-BY.
15:58 jp             not 'NC'
16:00 Calinou        cool
16:00 Calinou        I dislike coffee, so I don't drink any.
16:00 Jordach        PenguinDad, i can in theory admin a server for 24 hours
16:00 Calinou        but I dislike stuff like cola too
16:01 Jordach        Calinou, wtf are you, a luddite?
16:01 Jordach        actually, are you not human?!
16:02 Jordach        PenguinDad, these Sony headphones actually have BASS :3
16:02 Calinou        a pony :D
16:02 * Calinou      runs
16:02 * Jordach      gets out the sugar cubes
16:02 PenguinDad     *gallops
16:03 * PenguinDad   gives Jordach a corner
16:04 Jordach        PenguinDad, at least the Headphones don't have computer crippling DRM ;3
16:05 * PenguinDad   is confused
16:05 * Jordach      is referring to the Sony CDs with malware-DRM
16:05 Jordach        tl;dr play it and record with desktop capture softwarew
16:06 Calinou        it'll decrease its quality
16:06 Jordach        Calinou, says 1920000KHZ output D:
16:06 Jordach            -0
16:06 Jordach        192k actually (over did it as usual)
16:06 sfan5          lol
16:07 Jordach        (i might actually be an audio purist)
16:07 sfan5          a what?
16:07 LemonLake      a joined
16:07 Jordach        sfan5, flac / m4a @ 450kbps or bust
16:08 sfan5          450k aac
16:08 sfan5          why not just flac then?
16:09 Jordach        because not all stores do FLAC
16:09 Jordach        and here's how you make normal headphones into beats: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/YtLJHWuCQCii.png
16:09 Jordach        and spotify's offline storage is set to FLAC level
16:10 sfan5          Jordach: you are aware that spotify premium uses 256k mp3?
16:10 Jordach        heh
16:10 sfan5          and what is that with all stores?
16:10 sfan5          every CD is flac
16:10 sfan5          (44.1k, s16[lb]e))
16:10 Jordach        sfan5, most stores (iTunes, Beatport, Bandcamp, etc) are mp3 usually
16:10 sfan5          s/)//
16:10 sfan5          oh
16:10 sfan5          online stores
16:11 sfan5          that makes sense
16:11 Jordach        sfan5, CDs are VERY expensive here
16:11 sfan5          iTunes uses 256k AAC IIRC
16:11 sfan5          yeah ik
16:11 Jordach        Vinyl here is even cheaper
16:11 sfan5          Stream #0:0(eng): Audio: aac (mp4a / 0x6134706D), 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 261 kb/s (default)
16:11 sfan5          /\ from iTunes
16:12 Jordach        sfan5, i downloaded something from iTunes and was mp3
16:12 sfan5          you did it wrong
16:12 Jordach        sfan5, i always do it wrong (see Meshnodes, BFD)
16:12 sfan5          I pulled my music directly from the iDevice using itunes_conv.sh (see https://gist.github.com/sfan5)
16:12 sfan5          what is wrong with your meshnodes?
16:13 Jordach        sfan5, too hacky for my liking
16:13 Jordach        although 0 problems heard from the desk fan in homedecor
16:14 sfan5          >heard
16:14 sfan5          maybe you had sound disabled :P
16:14 * Jordach      pokes VanessaE about recording a looping fan sound when turning it on
16:16 sfan5          don't you have a fan yourself?
16:25 Jordach        i don't hear no 10 year olds screaming #cutforjordach do i
16:25 Jordach        and yes that was a stab
16:27 Calinou        <Jordach> sfan5, most stores (iTunes, Beatport, Bandcamp, etc) are mp3 usually → then don't buy from them
16:27 sfan5          uh
16:27 Jordach        Calinou, most shit i have don't eat anything else and Rockbox is shit
16:27 sfan5          bandcamp?
16:27 sfan5          you can choose flac too
16:27 Jordach        sfan5, if the option is there
16:27 Jordach        most large artists DONT
16:28 sfan5          thats not bandcamps fault
16:28 Calinou        FLAC or high-quality OGG
16:28 sfan5          nope
16:28 sfan5          just flac
16:31 crazyR         sfan, has there been any development on this: https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/issues/11
16:31 sfan5          I'm on vacation
16:31 sfan5          do you expect me to fix that
16:31 sfan5          I don't even know what the issue might be
16:32 * Jordach      meows at sfan5 https://cdn.mediacru.sh/UteiVoiBD7yu.png
16:32 crazyR         well, firstly i didnt know you was on vacation. and secondly, are you not the lead developer of it now? if so i would have though you might have a much better idea as to what might be causing it or atleast how to figure out whats causing it. than me or most other would.
16:33 crazyR         *others
16:33 sfan5          I have the code here
16:33 sfan5          but I don't have time actually
16:33 sfan5          Jordach: low bandwith? y that?
16:34 * Jordach      wonders if sfan5 can confirm that his towel is already on the poolside seating
16:34 sfan5          I'm not in a hotel
16:34 sfan5          they would have WiFi :P
16:35 Jordach        sfan5, 3g?
16:35 * Jordach      has 4G reception here
16:35 sfan5          no 3g here
16:35 sfan5          2g
16:35 sfan5          EDGE
16:35 Calinou        IRC, EDGE-friendly since 1998
16:36 sfan5          64 bytes from 194.122.81.32(google.com): icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=4637 ms
16:41 Jordach        and
16:44 rubenwardy     Hi all!
16:45 sfan5          !deop HLuaBot
16:45 PenguinDad     Hi rubenwardy
16:58 Jordach        TIL all iDevices have the same sync/charge socket issues
16:58 Jordach        the backplate is 60C
16:59 ShadowNinja    HLuaBot: load RemoveBots
16:59 HLuaBot        Plugin successfully loaded.
16:59 ShadowNinja    http://ix.io/dLD/lua
17:00 Jordach        !op HLuaBot
17:00 ShadowNinja    Should catch some of the less inteligent bots.
17:00 Jordach        ShadowNinja, do remove it on Inchra: coolcat uses all upper
17:01 ShadowNinja    Setting +i might be better than banning though.
17:01 Jordach        or at least disable
17:01 ShadowNinja    Jordach: Nah, I don't like all-uper nicks anyway.  :-P
17:01 Jordach        you evil man ;3
17:02 ShadowNinja    Jordach: Is his ident "~COOLCAT"?
17:02 ShadowNinja    Hmmm, yes.
17:03 Jordach        ShadowNinja, yes
17:03 ShadowNinja    I'll add conn.network == "freenode".
17:03 Jordach        [17:53:03] <-- Cool_Catty (~COOLCAT@nope.avi) has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)
17:04 ShadowNinja    []reload RemoveBots
17:04 ShadowNinja    HLuaBot: config prefix
17:04 HLuaBot        prefix = "''"
17:04 ShadowNinja    ''reload RemoveBots
17:04 HLuaBot        Plugin successfully reloaded.
17:21 * sfan5        licks asie
17:22 daddev         how do I access the mobf menu in sapier's mod?
17:23 harrison       we need a unicode-compatible VR display
17:23 harrison       to build the VR asciiverse
17:23 harrison       so that IRC lives forever
17:24 sfan5          yes
17:24 VanessaE       daddev:  /mobf  :)
17:26 daddev         VanessaE: Huh, I can't get it to come up. invalid command
17:27 daddev         I can see the mod listed in the mods section of the config since I extracted it
17:27 VanessaE       strange, when last I checked that was the command.
17:27 VanessaE       but did you enable it in the menu?
17:27 daddev         VanessaE: probably not. How do I do that?
17:27 VanessaE       select a world, click "configure"
17:27 VanessaE       click the mod in the list, select "enable" at the top of the window
17:30 daddev         VanessaE: ah, configure ;-) Thanks!
17:43 * Krock        made a perfect guide how to set up a world
18:28 lemonlake_     HLuaBot: hi
18:28 HLuaBot        Unknown command "hi". Try "help".
18:29 lemonlake_     well fuck you
18:29 reactor        HLuaBot: ÑŠ
18:29 HLuaBot        Unknown command "ÑŠ". Try "help".
18:29 lemonlake_     ah
18:29 lemonlake_     the new ShadowBot
18:31 PenguinDad     HLuaBot: meow
18:31 HLuaBot        Unknown command "meow". Try "help".
18:31 PenguinDad     :(
18:31 lemonlake_     HLuaBot: quit
18:31 HLuaBot        Insufficient privileges.
18:31 lemonlake_     bitch
18:31 lemonlake_     HLuaBot: grant lemonlake quit
18:31 HLuaBot        Unknown command "grant". Try "help".
18:31 lemonlake_     >:(
18:33 Jordach        that wasn't suposed to happen
18:33 lemonlake_     but it was
18:33 PenguinDad     HLuaBot: privilege all lemonlake_
18:33 HLuaBot        Unknown command "privilege". Try "help".
18:34 PenguinDad     >:D
18:34 lemonlake_     HLuaBot: help
18:34 HLuaBot        Commands: reload, load, unload, plugins, op, deop, devoice, voice, join, part, help, uptime, echo, raw, eval, quit, more, ping, shutdown, config, tell -- Use 'help <command name>' to get help with a specific command.
18:34 lemonlake_     HLuaBot: op *
18:34 HLuaBot        Too many arguments.
18:34 lemonlake_     :(
18:35 reactor        lemonlake_: it's sending notices to the channel.
18:35 lemonlake_     reactor: what is what
18:35 lemonlake_     oh wow, that's weird
18:35 lemonlake_     why can't it just message like a sane person?
18:37 reactor        00:34 < lemonlake_> HLuaBot: op *
18:37 reactor        00:34 -HLuaBot:#minetest- Too many arguments.
18:37 reactor        Okay?
18:37 lemonlake_     HLuaBot: op
18:37 HLuaBot        Insufficient privileges.
18:37 lemonlake_     ;'(
18:37 reactor        Maybe it isn't notice.
18:38 reactor        Oh well it looks like it.
18:38 lemonlake_     I think it is
18:38 lemonlake_     As a matter of fact, is
18:38 lemonlake_     But why notice?
18:38 Jordach        because namby pamby ShadowNinja
18:38 Jordach        ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
18:39 lemonlake_     >namby pamby
18:39 lemonlake_     >( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
18:39 lemonlake_     srs
18:39 reactor        Ô’_Å’
18:39 * Jordach      stopped giving a fuck about seriousness a while ago
18:39 ShadowNinja    !g RFC1459 NOTICE
18:39 lemonlake_     reactor: needs surgery
18:39 reactor        ?
18:40 ShadowNinja    http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1459.html#section-4.4.2
18:40 ShadowNinja    Jordach, lemonlake_, reactor: ^
18:40 Jordach        just because it's defined by some engineering nerds doesn't mean you have to follow them
18:40 * Jordach      likes the idea of infinite anarchy
18:41 reactor        ShadowNinja: then notice the issuer of the command!
18:41 reactor        Why notice everyone?!
18:41 lemonlake_     ah
18:41 lemonlake_     +reactor
18:41 Krock          test
18:41 reactor        Jordach: it's the standard.
18:41 Jordach        reactor, xkcd.
18:41 PenguinDad     !c '\'meow'
18:41 MinetestBot    "'meow"
18:41 reactor        Imagine if nobody ever adhered to "some engineering nerds".
18:42 lemonlake_     Jordach: what does xkcd have to do with anything?
18:42 Jordach        clearly they ignored the "more than one way to skin a cat"
18:42 ShadowNinja    reactor: Becuase that isn't what people want.  They want to be able to show other people in the channel the result of their commands.
18:42 reactor        You couldn't even match a bolt and a nut in your life, genius!
18:42 reactor        wouldn't be able to*
18:42 * Jordach      considers custom 3D printing his schematic of his iPod Dock
18:43 PenguinDad     Krock: It works isn't that awesome?
18:44 reactor        ShadowNinja: /me scratches head
18:44 reactor        Well that is reasonable.
18:46 * Krock        discovered /amsg
18:46 Jordach        nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
18:47 Jordach        i really need to get a new chair
18:47 Krock          whyyyy
18:47 Jordach        the back side is coming off D:
18:47 Krock          I don't have a backside on my chair.
18:47 PenguinDad     Krock: /amsg?
18:47 Krock          PenguinDad, "sends a chat message to all connecte rooms"
18:47 Jordach        PenguinDad, messages all chans
18:48 * PenguinDad   could also do /allchan /msg *
18:49 * Krock        is active
18:49 * Krock        also found /ame
18:49 reactor        Passive-aggressive.
18:49 * PenguinDad   could also do /allchan /me *
18:50 * Krock        could also do /allchan /way
18:50 Krock          (/away)
18:51 PenguinDad     /allchan /away makes no sense
18:51 Krock          >/way
18:52 PenguinDad     WTF is /way
18:52 Krock          idk
18:53 Krock          we ere just using all "/a*" commands
18:56 rubenwardy     hi
18:56 MinetestBot    GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Disable preload_item_visuals by default d7bcde6 2014-08-05T14:54:33-04:00 http://git.io/gOQbyg
18:57 rubenwardy     Bye all!
19:03 * Jordach      nukes another external access point
19:03 Krock          finally a by-default-speedup :)
19:06 PenguinDad     Krock: I think we should release now :D
19:06 Krock          PenguinDad, yes. a new version is required.
19:07 MinetestForFun Hi everybody, i've some problems with my minetest server : when i start my minetest server, all is ok. But when i connect a client to my minetest server, i found this errors : http://hpics.li/104408f (i think it's the mods "unifieddyes" and "bone") but i don't know the modification i need... :/ please help me ! :)
19:11 PenguinDad     MinetestForFun: There are no real errors in the image
19:12 MinetestForFun so.. i jsut ignore ERROR[main] ? it's not important ?
19:12 PenguinDad     You can normally ignore generateImage errors
19:14 MinetestForFun ok thank you for your help
19:16 MinetestForFun i've also this errors, http://hpics.li/618689e (not a problem, i ignore it ?)
19:17 MinetestForFun (very strange errors ^^)
19:22 Krock          MinetestForFun, which version are you using?
19:22 Krock          (looking at error #2)
19:23 MinetestForFun Im using minetest 0.4.10 on a debian server
19:23 MinetestForFun im sorry i don't know the command for mp ^^"
19:36 lemonlake_     is RealBadAngel active?
19:37 lemonlake_     !tell RealBadAngel https://cdn.mediacru.sh/kvHURgQh9NHh.png
19:37 MinetestBot    lemonlake_: I'll pass that on when RealBadAngel is around
19:39 Krock          lemonlake_, "not my beer" but, what does it do?
19:39 lemonlake_     Krock: Well, it was a project to learn both irrlicht and create a tool that allows the user to generate an inventroy cube for external use.
19:39 MinetestBot    GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Formspec escape fixed seen in world creation menu 15f3713 2014-08-05T15:37:53-04:00 http://git.io/pHk7Rg
19:39 Krock          ShadowNinja, how about the *CDP fix?
19:39 lemonlake_     But now RBA would like to make it mandatory for all modders to use this tool to generate their own images, and remove the engine's method to generate them.
19:40 lemonlake_     Thus, saving loading times as the engine no longer has to do ^
19:40 ShadowNinja    Krock: Um, one minute...
19:40 Krock          lemonlake_, it looks interesting
19:43 lemonlake_     Krock: it's pretty badly coded, first time using irrlicht
19:43 lemonlake_     i'm sure i'll figure it out
19:43 Krock          lemonlake_, C++?
19:43 lemonlake_     ofc
19:43 Krock          k
19:45 MinetestForFun Krock i've you an idea for my errors messages ? if you want i can give you a screenshot with all of the start messages when a client is conencting to my server
19:46 lemonlake_     MinetestForFun: are you need_help from yesterday?
19:46 Krock          MinetestForFun, as long it runs, it should be no problem
19:46 ShadowNinja    Krock: It looks fine to me, but sapier had an issue with it.
19:46 MinetestForFun lamonlake_ (im need_help, my english is recognizable ? ><)
19:47 lemonlake_     "<MinetestForFun> Im using minetest 0.4.10 on a debian server"
19:47 lemonlake_     MinetestBot: gives it away instantly
19:47 lemonlake_     tabfail
19:47 Krock          ShadowNinja, Lua only uses the required values and it's much easier to handle updates in that area.
19:47 MinetestForFun Ahah :)
19:48 Krock          I think, as long no one else is against it, it should be okay
19:48 ShadowNinja    Krock: Agreed, now convince sapier of that.  :-)
19:48 ShadowNinja    Or get someone else to agree.
19:48 MinetestForFun ok i ignore my errosr messages, thank you for you advices :)
19:49 Krock          I'll try my luck
19:50 PenguinDad     Krock: this might help you ;) http://make-everything-ok.com/
19:51 lemonlake_     PenguinDad: that actually works
19:51 Krock          PenguinDad, thanksa lot
19:56 lemonlake_     Doing a complete redesign of NodeViewer menu
19:56 lemonlake_     it's currently absolute, and i'm sure you know how horrible that can be
20:05 lemonlake_     and yet there is not a way o have a non-absolute gui
20:05 lemonlake_     fantastic
20:07 * sfan5        meows at lemonlake_
20:07 PenguinDad     <3 GitHub
20:08 lemonlake_     </3 GitHub
20:08 lemonlake_     sfan5: why meow?
20:09 Jordach        https://cdn.mediacru.sh/JF_p5CI7OUUr.png
20:09 Jordach        ^ actual next gen
20:09 Jordach        MS / Sony can't even match
20:10 lemonlake_     Jordach: yes, but this is a very small handheld portable console with 3d computin
20:10 Jordach        lemonlake_, most run at 48/2 under 3D mode
20:11 lemonlake_     Jordach: idk, i mean my xbox original can get 50 last time i'd measured it
20:11 lemonlake_     360 could hit 60 and xbone again 60
20:12 Jordach        lemonlake_, just because they can doesn't mean devs will
20:12 Jordach        devs usually cripple their games
20:12 lemonlake_     Jordach: not necessarily
20:12 lemonlake_     you also can't blindly state a console's frame per second
20:12 lemonlake_     a console is supposed to simply play a game, not be better than pcs
20:13 lemonlake_     wanna know why pcs are better? because they're bigger, and not meant to be cheap
20:13 lemonlake_     to cater to their audience the console needs to be within affordable range somewhat, so they need to keep the specs cheap enough
20:14 lemonlake_     if you want a 2 grand playstation or xbox, then you'll get way better specs
20:14 lemonlake_     devs will get more money, so they'll make their game faster
20:15 Jordach        lemonlake_, have you seen how retarded some devs actually are
20:15 Jordach        they cripple the PC to be on par with the lesser machines
20:15 lemonlake_     Jordach: at the end of the day, as long as the game is playable it doesnt matter
20:15 Jordach        playable means an actual fps rate
20:15 Jordach        not the same as a movie
20:15 lemonlake_     titanfall is source engine
20:16 lemonlake_     source engine has fine framerates for simple levels, they fault with details though
20:32 Jordach        i found something out - using 6 blocks of wood makes 12 stairs
20:33 Jordach        those quarter lines can be made into stairs
20:34 PenguinDad     You just need enough glue :D
20:34 * Krock        gives Jordach mesecon_materials:glue
20:41 Jordach        wait
20:41 Jordach        it's 8 actually
20:42 lemonlake_     Jordach: correct
20:43 Jordach        we're goddamn inefficient
20:43 lemonlake_     from each 6 plank block you get an extra quater, equals six quaters
20:43 lemonlake_     3 quaters for 1 stair, so you can make two extra stairs from that
20:43 Jordach        lemonlake_, rusty maths here
20:43 lemonlake_     why so?
20:43 Jordach        not done it since um
20:43 Jordach        ~14 months ago
20:43 lemonlake_     this isn't even maths, it's just logic ;)
20:44 Jordach        lemonlake_, algebraic
20:44 lemonlake_     that's practically inalgebraic
20:44 lemonlake_     would you like a blender animation of the process?
20:44 lemonlake_     the process of making stairs?
20:44 Jordach        lemonlake_, i know i can demonstrate it physically
20:44 lemonlake_     there you go then
20:45 lemonlake_     if you know that, you know you can visualizeit
20:45 Jordach        for each three nodes used, get 4 stairs
20:45 lemonlake_     that's a pretty weird way of thinking of it
20:45 lemonlake_     either way, how is it 'inefficient'?
20:46 Jordach        because we currently get 4 nodes
20:46 lemonlake_     ohhh
20:46 lemonlake_     yes...that's very silly
20:46 lemonlake_     fix that in bfd ;)
20:47 Jordach        or 6
20:47 Jordach        minetest.register_craft({ \n output = 'stairs:stair_' .. subname .. ' 4',
20:47 lemonlake_     but then we could be using a LOT of wood to make straps to keep it sturdy or somethin
20:47 Jordach        inefficient
20:47 Jordach        lemonlake_, the model doesn't show that
20:47 lemonlake_     indeed
20:47 Jordach        it is basically a sawed off quarter
20:48 lemonlake_     unless the remaining wood is used to make a saw?
20:48 lemonlake_     it's just so indurable the player never sees it?
20:48 Jordach        lemonlake_, explain the crafting of TVs with your fists
20:48 lemonlake_     its just a game
20:48 Jordach        that's why i won't go too far
20:56 Jordach        lemonlake_, starting meh BFD sevrer
21:11 * Jordach      turns off the expansion of the spread
21:12 lemonlake_     Jordach: wai?
21:12 Megaf          Hi
21:13 Jordach        lemonlake_, overpowered
21:13 Jordach        and i mean it
21:13 Jordach        you leave that mapblock loaded for more than 5 minutes and it expands nearly 4 mapblocks
21:14 Jordach        (i'm also cutting down on the size of the biomes, putting it inbetween glacier and snowy plains)
22:35 MinetestBot    GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix typo (thanks donat-b!). https:/ 2014-08-05T18:34:43-04:00 http://git.io/6cp90w
22:45 MinetestForFun am i the only one having problems for making my minetest server public ? (i've modified the lines in minetest.conf but my server still private...) If you want see my minetest.conf it's here http://www.0bin.net/paste/st2lZuZAykk1sdnx#DGlFSLcM2uSz+taEM0iW8DNL6jpfAS6P-rCDU+dEfK+ Please, can you help me ?
22:46 Eater4         I can
22:46 Eater4         Let me look
22:46 MinetestForFun thank you very much
22:46 MinetestForFun !
22:46 Eater4         can you use unbuntu pastbin please?
22:46 MinetestForFun y i can
22:47 MinetestForFun 2 minutes please
22:47 Eater4         ok doke
22:47 MinetestForFun http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7965203/
22:49 Eater4         MinetestForFun: did you port foward?
22:49 Eater4         Forward*
22:50 MinetestForFun y
22:50 MinetestForFun i can play in my server, but privatly
22:51 MinetestForFun you can play also play in my server if you want to try
22:51 MinetestForFun you can also play*
22:51 Eater4         MinetestForFun: you need to make sure you have port 30001 forwarded
22:51 MinetestForFun you want a screenshot of my ipfire ? :)
22:52 Eater4         naw, if you port forwarded it then I believe you
22:52 MinetestForFun imp sure i've forward my port 30001, i can connect and play in my server
22:52 Eater4         make sure you add public_serverlist = true
22:53 MinetestForFun but my server still private :/
22:53 MinetestForFun err... where i need to put this line ?
22:53 MinetestForFun in minetest.conf ?
22:53 Eater4         MinetestForFun: add public_serverlist = true
22:53 Eater4         Yes, in minetest.conf
22:53 MinetestForFun my god... my bad...
22:54 MinetestForFun this line is not here : http://minetest.net/servers
22:54 MinetestForFun minetest.net need an update :D
22:54 Jordach        the serverlist auto updates
22:55 VanessaE       use this list.  http://servers.minetest.net/
22:55 VanessaE       not that one.
22:55 MinetestForFun i've use the two lists
22:55 Eater4         VanessaE: he was talking about how he didn't have it annouce to the public_serverlist
22:55 MinetestForFun but the text for adding his server to the server list is not update, it lacks a line
22:56 Eater4         VanessaE: why can't we have one list? Why 2
22:56 VanessaE       try server_announce = 1  (not = true)
22:56 MinetestForFun just look at the bottom of this page http://minetest.net/servers :)
22:57 MinetestForFun i try and i say you if it's ok :)
22:57 VanessaE       just try it
22:57 VanessaE       you don't need to specify an address to announce to
22:58 VanessaE       http://pastebin.com/LYm7DDxb
22:58 VanessaE       there's mine.
22:58 VanessaE       works perfectly.
22:59 Eater4         Hm...
22:59 Eater4         VanessaE: that's it?
22:59 VanessaE       yup
23:00 VanessaE       that's all I have in that server's .conf for announcing.
23:00 Eater4         oh
23:06 MinetestForFun so, im waiting my server appear in the server list
23:24 WindHero       https://mediacru.sh/b244fce07d15
23:24 WindHero       ^Dungeon Master Fort
23:25 crazyR         anyone know how i can check if a node exist/loaded
23:25 WindHero       thinking of having a random treasure chest spawn inside
23:25 * Jordach      sighs
23:25 crazyR         with lua i mean sorry
23:25 Jordach        NOT this AGAIN
23:25 Jordach        https://cdn.mediacru.sh/OZGRkEySTNWU.png
23:25 WindHero       that depends
23:26 WindHero       Jordach: the shadow or the silly chat?
23:26 Jordach        the shadow
23:26 Jordach        a perfect square
23:26 crazyR         i had that issue on my old map
23:26 PenguinHub     Hi again everyone!
23:26 WindHero       @crazyR: use minetest.get_node(pos) and check if it's name isn't "ignore"
23:27 crazyR         what i mean is i want to check if the node name is loaded   its for an admin deposit machine
23:27 crazyR         mod:nodename
23:28 WindHero       minetest.registered_nodes()?
23:28 crazyR         thanks
23:28 VanessaE       check if the mod that contains it exists.
23:28 WindHero       not sure if I have the right syntax there
23:28 crazyR         il look it up but thanks, its a good head start
23:28 VanessaE       if minetest.get_modpath("foo") then <code that assumes the node you want exists>  end
23:29 VanessaE       and put foo? into your depends.txt if you can.
23:29 VanessaE       for whatever mod foo is that you are looking for nodes in
23:29 crazyR         VanessaE the only issue with that is if the actual node name hasnt been spelled correctly the machine will presume that the node exists and then no one can sell to it.
23:29 VanessaE       ah
23:29 crazyR         looks like windhero has the right solution. just checking it out now :)
23:30 WindHero       :D
23:30 crazyR         windhere, is it part of the new api? its not in the wiki
23:31 Jordach        crazyR, http://dev.minetest.net
23:31 crazyR         i know thats where i am
23:31 Jordach        !dev minetest.registered_nodes()
23:31 MinetestBot    No such page.
23:32 WindHero       minetest.registered_nodes[name]
23:32 WindHero       ^that
23:32 WindHero       I had it wrong
23:32 Jordach        !dev minetest.registered_nodes
23:32 MinetestBot    "A table of tables of a time, function and function arguments used for 12minetest.after, e.g." - http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.registered_nodes
23:32 crazyR         hmm yeah that will work actually, its the same as what unified inv uses i think
23:32 WindHero       from the api: Registered definitions of stuff
23:32 WindHero       --------------------------------
23:32 WindHero       Anything added using certain minetest.register_* functions get added to
23:32 WindHero       the global minetest.registered_* tables.
23:33 WindHero       if not minetest.registered_nodes[nodename] then
23:33 WindHero       return nil
23:33 WindHero       end
23:33 WindHero       ...and so on.
23:33 crazyR         thanks hero :D
23:33 WindHero       no prob.
23:36 crazyR         1 job done, now to create my digifilter :D
23:36 blaise         what are the two inventory mods?
23:36 blaise         inventory+ and what?
23:36 crazyR         unified inventry
23:37 blaise         unified inventory is moe betta?
23:37 blaise         and, are there armor mods for unified inventory?
23:38 crazyR         not sure about armor but you could alway create a button on it that would load the modmenu(armor menu)
23:38 blaise         hrmm
23:38 blaise         I've only tried one of the armor mods
23:38 blaise         it's not all that great
23:38 crazyR         i dont use it anymore as my server isnt pvp, seemed pointless tohave
23:39 WindHero       <blaise> unified inventory is moe betta?
23:39 blaise         you can make the server non-pvp?
23:39 WindHero       you talk pidgin, brah?
23:39 WindHero       jk xD
23:39 lemonlake_     pidgin?
23:39 blaise         http://pidgin.im/
23:40 crazyR         lol
23:40 lemonlake_     i know what pidgin is
23:40 blaise         WindHero: you mad brah?
23:40 lemonlake_     this isn't pidgin talk
23:40 lemonlake_     this is general nettalk
23:40 WindHero       troll
23:41 crazyR         ^ i use it saves me having mutliple windows open
23:41 blaise         nettalk? or pidgin?
23:41 WindHero       But to me pidgin = slang
23:41 crazyR         pidgin lol
23:41 crazyR         hero, what does is mean in slang
23:41 blaise         WindHero: what you call pidgin, I call chicken head
23:41 WindHero       rofl
23:42 blaise         I wonder if there is a bitcoin mod
23:42 blaise         where we can mine btc in minetest..
23:42 WindHero       I hate to use wikipedia but..
23:42 WindHero       http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaiian_Pidgin
23:43 WindHero       It's da kine brah! ;)
23:44 blaise         WindHero: I've considered going through life talking like that guy from the angry asian resturant prank call youtube videos..
23:44 WindHero       rofl
23:44 WindHero       I don't believe I've seen those...
23:44 WindHero       but I can imagine it clearly
23:44 WindHero       having been around MANY asians
23:44 blaise         it's a roit..
23:45 blaise         there's even a soundboard for android
23:45 WindHero       heheh
23:45 blaise         !up midnightsystems.net
23:45 MinetestBot    midnightsystems.net:30000 seems to be down
23:45 blaise         D:
23:46 MinetestForFun i've changed my minetest.conf like you advice me, but my server still private :/
23:46 blaise         yeah, I had that issue..
23:46 blaise         it was weird
23:47 MinetestForFun i don't understand why ><
23:47 blaise         port was open, but wasn't informing the minetest public directory of it's existance
23:47 MinetestForFun and your server is now in the public list ?
23:47 blaise         yes
23:48 MinetestForFun how did you make that ? ><
23:48 blaise         after a few days it just started working...
23:48 * blaise       shrugs
23:48 blaise         I think it had something to do with a bug
23:48 MinetestForFun oh, ok
23:49 WindHero       mobs:register_spawn("mobs:dungeon_master", {"caverealms:dm_statue"}, 14, -1, 100, 1, -2000)
23:49 WindHero       ehehehehehe
23:49 blaise         it randomly does it every once in a while
23:49 MinetestForFun thank you for the information, i will wait ^^"
23:49 WindHero       spawn chance: 1/100
23:50 blaise         MinetestForFun: I think they squashed the bug though, so while your waiting you may want to investigate
23:50 blaise         MinetestForFun: do you use linux?
23:51 blaise         I keep a log server running and have all my machines dump their logs to the one logserver box
23:51 MinetestForFun y i use linux, my server is in a debian computer, my minetest server run a 0.4.1 version
23:51 blaise         MinetestForFun: you may want to check out lnav
23:52 blaise         it's a little program which does color parsing on log files than I keep the minetest log open in a console term to monitor what is going on
23:52 MinetestForFun i don't know what is it
23:52 blaise         debian should have it in the repo's
23:53 MinetestForFun please, can you give me the name of the packet ?
23:54 blaise         lnav
23:54 blaise         Homepage:            http://lnav.org
23:54 blaise         Description:         A curses-based tool for viewing and analyzing log files
23:54 blaise         Could someone help me with a server crash?
23:55 blaise         I get this after the server runs for a long time
23:55 blaise         http://pastebin.com/KGVB4Fb3
23:55 MinetestForFun i've found him, thank you very much :)
23:55 blaise         keep in mind I've never had a boat mod
23:55 blaise         and it doesn't exist on the server and never has
23:55 MinetestForFun boat mod is native, no ?
23:55 blaise         is it?!
23:55 blaise         well it's broke
23:56 MinetestForFun check your /minetest/minetest_game/mods
23:56 lemonlake_     http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pidgin
23:56 blaise         I don't have one
23:56 * blaise       pets lemonlake_
23:56 * lemonlake_   is petted
23:57 MinetestForFun here : /minetest/games/minetest_game/mods
23:57 MinetestForFun i've a linux distribution, maybe it's different for windows
23:58 MinetestForFun in this folder there have the native mod
23:58 crazyR         does anyone know how to chart the player activity. ive seen a few people have done it. but not sure how
23:58 lemonlake_     MinetestForFun: those are the mods that are part of the game
23:58 MinetestForFun personay i've the boat mod here
23:58 lemonlake_     you typically don't edit those
23:59 lemonlake_     mods should be properly placed in the mods folder
23:59 blaise         wow, my map is 64GB
23:59 MinetestForFun what ?!
23:59 crazyR         :O
23:59 lemonlake_     blaise: ranking up in the highs
23:59 MinetestForFun impossible Oo
23:59 blaise         MinetestForFun: I use Funtoo and Gentoo linux
23:59 lemonlake_     MinetestForFun: very possible
23:59 lemonlake_     its quite normal actually
23:59 blaise         I got a lot of players