Time Nick Message 00:55 jojoa1997 IM ALIVE 00:55 * jojoa1997 pets sfan5 02:19 Miner_48er kaeza did you receive my reply? 02:39 Miner_48er shadowNinja line 80 in handler.lua should be msg instead of msgs 02:39 Miner_48er also the irc mod isn't using the updated version 02:48 ShadowNinja Miner_48er: Nope, msgs is correct. 02:48 ShadowNinja Miner_48er: See messages.lua. 02:51 Miner_48er thx 03:24 blaise sfan5: so, did that guy even manage to hack anything? 03:24 blaise sfan5: if so, what? 03:34 fiver I am new to minetest. I am interesting in modding. 03:35 fiver I assume all here play minetest? 03:36 Exio4 i find hacking the code more fun than playing minetest itself, even though i don't dev much.. 03:37 fiver What compiler do you use? 03:37 Exio4 gcc 03:37 fiver I assume its c++ code 03:37 fiver ok cool 03:37 fiver I have that with codeblocks 03:37 fiver Hey, exio4, how did you learn to program? Are there good IRC channels for learning c++ and modding? 03:38 Exio4 for learning C++? there are nice books about it, but i'd learn it by practice if you've coded before :P 03:38 * GTRsdk is curious too 03:38 Exio4 and lua, well, lua is quite easy! 03:39 Exio4 you should understand it if you know the basic concepts 03:39 Exio4 my lua skills aren't good because i rarely look at lua code though... :p 03:39 fiver for scripting, javascript and python so far 03:39 fiver python is fun 03:40 Exio4 why do people find python nice 03:40 fiver its absurdly easy 03:40 Exio4 i find it not so easy 03:41 Exio4 and you can't even use it for learning OOP stuff... it has a "fake" OOP 03:41 Exio4 no private methods, and so on... 03:41 Exio4 and if you want to code functionally, you can't 03:41 Exio4 outside a few high order functions you could even have in C 03:41 Exio4 (without closures in C, though!) 03:41 fiver well, its easy for learning programming, basic programming 03:42 Exio4 i find functional languages being amazingly nice for learning too 03:42 Exio4 they let you think about the problem itself 03:42 Exio4 h4x0rz r34l coders should be the ones dealing with the machine internals and how the computer could represent it 03:43 Exio4 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule 03:48 fiver never used lisp 03:51 Exio4 fiver, if you've time, check Racket 03:51 Exio4 it is a nice language 03:52 fiver Never heard of it. 03:52 fiver New? 03:57 fiver Says based on lisp. Would be difficult.. only know c++ java javascript python... 04:04 Exio4 it isn't hard 04:04 Exio4 it is different 04:04 Exio4 fiver, it isn't "new", it is just that they changed the name to a scheme work because they kept developing it 04:05 Exio4 if like static type systems, you could look at ML or haskell, but i'd go for Racket :p 04:08 blaise anyone got a changelog for minetest-0.4.9 > minetest-0.4.10 ? 04:10 Exio4 http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog ? 04:20 fiver The modding related changes is what I'm looking at. 04:23 donat captured the moment https://i.imgur.com/EeOE8TF.png 04:30 fiver cool pic 04:40 donat thx 06:02 sfan5 blaise: no 06:35 blaise sfan5: no to the changelog? or no to the failsploiter9k ? 06:38 blaise Exio4: ever used GO ? 08:21 Krock hi 08:26 Amaz Hi Krock! 08:29 Krock bye bye Amaz 09:08 Krock http://www.nerdtests.com/images/ft/cg.php?val=1588 09:18 nman3600 idc if lemoncake johned mintest 09:19 Krock -h+i+e 09:19 LemonLake nman3600: rude bugger 09:22 LemonLake guys 09:22 LemonLake quassel is a bit weird 09:23 LemonLake nman3600: ping 09:23 LemonLake nman3600: double ping 09:23 nman3600 LemonLake: pong 10:01 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=150158#p150158 10:03 PilzAdam Krock, what does your mapgen do that others can't? 10:03 LemonLake ^ 10:06 nman3600 ^ 10:07 LemonLake okay. today's plan is to clean out the windows extensively (not pussified this time), then backup my linux files, then install a new distro completely 10:08 LemonLake or at least mint 17 10:09 LemonLake is xubuntu worth checking out? 10:10 Calinou yes, LemonLake 10:10 LemonLake better than ubuntu? 10:10 Calinou 14.04 10:10 Calinou yes 10:10 LemonLake okay 10:10 LemonLake and when i install it, does it have the ability to use my existing linux partition? 10:13 Krock PilzAdam, it can generate caves, willed with lava and ice around it :) 10:13 Krock -w+f 10:14 Calinou LemonLake, if separate /home, yes 10:15 Calinou choose it as mount point /home in advanced partition, don't format it 10:15 Calinou and format the / partition to install system 10:15 Calinou if I were you I'd just backup everything to external HDD though 10:15 LemonLake Yeah, that's what I'm doing 10:15 Calinou easier, no need to predict space used 10:15 LemonLake First I'm speeding up the windows 10:15 LemonLake incase I fuck up 10:15 LemonLake 10 minute boot time is seriously pathetic, and it only gets longer and longer (im not even installing anything) 10:20 Calinou 10 minute boot time? how? 10:20 Calinou my boot time is 23 secs :P 10:20 LemonLake well, the OS boot is ~1 min 10:20 LemonLake it takes the remaining 9 for windows to realise what the fuck it's doing and start explorer 10:21 LemonLake like, im not even kidding 10:24 Calinou LemonLake, “msconfig” 10:24 Calinou Windows+R, type that 10:24 Calinou look at programs on startup 10:24 Calinou uncheck the ones you don't need 10:24 lemonlake_ Virtualbox is a +Cnt 10:24 lemonlake_ I just uninstalled it, and its way of a 'fun uninstallation' is to completely remove the network driver and then bugger up DNS lookup 10:25 Calinou why remove it? 10:25 Calinou it's almost always useful to have virtualization software around 10:25 lemonlake_ Virtualbox or my network driver? 10:26 lemonlake_ Well, hopefully, when the Windows is fixed, it will only be used for gaming and audio editing. 10:26 lemonlake_ If I need virtualization, it'll be on the xubuntu ;) 10:27 lemonlake_ ghooooost 10:33 * GhostDoge licks lemonlake_ 10:33 * lemonlake_ meows at GhostDoge 10:33 * GhostDoge barks happily at lemonlake_ 11:08 lemonlake_ wtf 11:08 lemonlake_ my exhdd isn't being recognised 11:13 lemonlake_ damnit...right when i need to ask calinou shit 11:24 crazyR can anyone think of a reason why the mapper would reject a color file? 11:24 crazyR i cant see anything wrong with the file 11:31 lemonlake_ was da errur 11:31 lemonlake_ OMFG 11:33 lemonlake_ http://imgur.com/a/WXaSw#0 11:36 lemonlake_ exactly 200 recursive obj folders 11:42 lemonlake_ Jordach: what is your onions on xubuntu? 11:43 Jordach lemonlake_, good 11:43 GhostDoge onions :D 11:45 lemonlake_ right now im compressing my previous windows backup while copying over my home folder 11:45 lemonlake_ (for a linux backup) 11:45 lemonlake_ then i'll try my hand at installing it over the existing mint installation 11:47 lemonlake_ though thinking about it, i might prefer just copying things i need and completly formatting the partition 11:47 lemonlake_ is this wise? 11:47 Amaz The second option? 11:47 lemonlake_ yes 11:48 Amaz That's what I always do. (That doesn't make it wise!) 11:48 lemonlake_ well I'm backing up the entire home folder 11:48 lemonlake_ then I'll format the partition (I hope I can do that right) and copy from the exhdd what I need 11:49 Amaz Yeah. 11:49 lemonlake_ though it'll be a few hours before that happens 11:49 Amaz You could format the partition from the installer. 11:49 lemonlake_ an hour left on the backup compression, and a week left on the linux backup 11:49 lemonlake_ yes, i think that's how it owkrs 11:50 lemonlake_ nvm, teracopy was being dicky, it's flickering between 1 hour to 3 weeks 11:50 Amaz :P 11:50 lemonlake_ what's not helping is the fact that im playing MC at the same time 11:50 Amaz XD 11:55 nman3600 Ma minetest won't close!! 11:56 lemonlake_ nman3600: task manager 11:56 nman3600 How do I open it? 11:56 lemonlake_ ctrl + alt + del 11:56 lemonlake_ open task manager 11:56 nman3600 I'm not stupid 11:56 lemonlake_ nman3600> How do I open it? 11:56 lemonlake_ I answered your question 11:58 Krock lemonlake_, it's easier to right click on the bar on bottom and starting it from there 11:58 lemonlake_ Krock: that's how I do it 11:58 lemonlake_ but everyone i see does the ctrl + alt + del method 11:58 lemonlake_ nobody understands how to right click a taskbar 11:59 Krock lemonlake_, you only can >see< nman :P 11:59 Krock therefore "everyone" 11:59 lemonlake_ excuse me? 11:59 lemonlake_ are you saying the only person i know is nman? 11:59 Krock no, I mean, the only person you see. 11:59 lemonlake_ no 11:59 lemonlake_ i don't see nman 11:59 lemonlake_ there's 3 rooms between us 11:59 Krock ah 12:00 Amaz XD 12:00 nman3600 xD 12:01 nman3600 Minetest stopped responding when I was playing. 12:01 nman3600 Now it won't close. 12:02 lemonlake_ ahh 12:02 lemonlake_ I had a similar thing back when I used webcammax 12:02 lemonlake_ if you can't terminate the process, then restart the PC 12:02 nman3600 Brb then. 12:02 lemonlake_ does anyone know what causes that? 12:03 lemonlake_ sometimes, when an application hangs, you can't terminate the process 12:07 nman3600 Much better. 12:10 Krock [Win] + [R] -> cmd /k "taskkill /F /IM minetest.exe" 12:10 lemonlake_ Krock: No, even that wouldn't fix it 12:10 lemonlake_ The task is impossible to kill 12:10 Krock that's imposs 12:10 lemonlake_ I know. But I've tried. 12:52 sfan5 hello world 12:53 lemonlake_ sfan5: hello 12:53 Amaz hello person 12:53 lemonlake_ im very pissed off at the dudes who made Clannad 12:53 Krock hello kitten 12:54 sfan5 lemonlake_: 9936ms ping to google.com, I'm surprised this even works 12:54 lemonlake_ sfan5: wat 12:55 sfan5 lemonlake_: i'm on vacation 12:55 sfan5 and theres no WiFi :( 12:55 lemonlake_ ahh 12:55 Krock 9936ms ping to google? where are you? on the moon? :P 12:56 sfan5 Krock: even the moon has better internet.. north germany at the sea 12:56 Krock ah, nice 12:57 lemonlake_ sfan5: you enjoying it? 12:57 Amaz ^ 12:57 sfan5 I've only just come here 12:57 lemonlake_ ah lol 12:57 sfan5 but already know I don't like the internet connectivity 12:57 Krock you'll surely die without internat 12:58 lemonlake_ nah 12:58 Krock *internet 12:58 lemonlake_ people can live without internet 12:58 sfan5 yes 12:58 Krock lemonlake_, irony. 12:58 lemonlake_ Krock: yes, ironing is what some people have to do to their clothes and stuff 12:59 GhostDoge The snow is deeper than I thought https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7860681728/hBB8CF595/ 12:59 lemonlake_ when you have a live without internets 12:59 Krock I have Iron as browser and at -30km 12:59 lemonlake_ GhostDoge: poor kitteh 13:00 Krock GhostDoge, best ever.. I with ere would be that much snow, so I could do thesame 13:00 Krock *here 13:01 * sfan5 licks lemonlake_ 13:01 * lemonlake_ licks sfan5 13:02 Krock lemonlake_, go to the coast and shout something, sfan5 possibly hould hear it :P 13:02 lemonlake_ i can't shout that loud 13:02 Krock *could, damn typos 13:02 lemonlake_ i can't even talk that loud 13:02 * sfan5 purrs 13:02 Krock rrrr 13:08 lemonlake_ FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK 13:08 lemonlake_ I really gotta fix that shit... 13:08 lemonlake_ I have a fucked up USB port, and I just jogged the exhdd with my foot, causing ALL operations to terminate 13:08 Krock you can't fix shit 13:09 Krock try flush 13:09 lemonlake_ So now the backup compression is fucked, half the teracopy failed 13:25 Jordach lemonlake_, y u use laptop 13:26 lemonlake_ Jordach: i no use laptop 13:26 lemonlake_ >:( stop assumptioning 13:28 lemonlake_ Jordach: what made you think I was using a laptop, anyway? 13:29 Jordach [14:08:52] I have a fucked up USB port, and I just jogged the exhdd with my foot, causing ALL operations to terminate 13:29 lemonlake_ yes? 13:29 lemonlake_ nothing there implies I'm on a laptop 13:29 Jordach laptop user issues :P 13:29 lemonlake_ the exhdd doesn't work in my usb hub 13:29 lemonlake_ and the only other free port is at the bottom of the pc, where i rest my foot 13:29 lemonlake_ s/foot/feet/ 13:32 Krock There's a brown girl in the rain Schalala 13:32 lemonlake_ um 13:32 lemonlake_ ok 13:33 Krock (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfT0mu7GlsI) 13:33 lemonlake_ oh its a song 13:33 Krock *ring 13:33 Krock :P 13:34 lemonlake_ im too bus listening to clannad songs 13:35 lemonlake_ FUCK 13:35 lemonlake_ I DID IT AGAIN 13:35 Krock some ppl never learn it 13:35 lemonlake_ learn what? 13:35 Krock to not do what they did before, which caused problems 13:35 Krock or so.. 13:36 lemonlake_ I didn't even touch it this time 13:36 Krock aha 13:36 lemonlake_ There was a door slam then suddenly I get bombarded with device detached/attached sounds 13:36 lemonlake_ (they spaz out when it happens) 13:39 Krock can't imagine what you just said but it sounds uninteresting 13:39 lemonlake_ it is 13:39 lemonlake_ its fucking annoying 14:27 jp Jordach : the DirectX exporter in Blender isn't it a bit buggy ? Sometimes the meshes are not written in the .x file... 14:33 VanessaE don't export to .x 14:34 VanessaE use any other format irrlicht supports. 14:34 reactor OldCoder: o/ 14:34 Krock VanessaE, file size resons? 14:34 Krock +a 14:35 VanessaE Krock: that too 14:35 VanessaE .x is bloated 14:35 Krock hmm? 14:35 VanessaE other formats are about half the size of a .x 14:35 VanessaE for the same content 14:35 Krock yeah 14:35 GhostDoge Krock: It's also easier to export to b3d 14:36 Krock well, I'd like to see a player model where the feets are flipped 14:39 twoelk if everything else is better then why aren't all *.x modells converted to someting better so no one gets the impression *.x is recommended for MT 14:39 GhostDoge Flipped feet? 14:40 jp Vanessa : .x file are supported by Irrlicht. 14:41 VanessaE yes 14:41 VanessaE as are a number of other formads 14:41 VanessaE formats* 14:41 VanessaE don't use .x 14:41 VanessaE twoelk: inertia. 14:41 Krock GhostDoge, front images should be flipped from inside to outside 14:41 Krock lol sounds compicated 14:42 * twoelk looks up an unknown word 14:42 VanessaE twoelk: the tendency to keep moving in a certain direction and speed unless some outside force stops you 14:42 VanessaE (or changes your direction) 14:42 VanessaE also, the tendency to stay put unless something gives you a push 14:43 GhostDoge Krock: I have no idea what you are talking about :D 14:43 jp VanessaE : what's the better exporter for 3D animated files so ? 14:43 jp best* 14:43 twoelk ah "Traegheit der Masse" or just laziness, my main personal trait 14:44 Krock GhostDoge, look at the front of a player. the image of the left leg should be mirrored. same with right feet 14:44 VanessaE jp: .b3d I guess 14:44 VanessaE or .obj if they're not animated maybe 14:44 VanessaE I forget for sure 14:44 Krock GhostDoge, that's the difference from MC -> MT skins 14:44 jp Ok 14:45 VanessaE jp: there are several supported formats 14:47 jp I know... 14:48 twoelk didn't addi have this experimental page, where you could draw on a skin in realtime, no saving though iirc 14:48 twoelk was good to study what is where 14:48 GhostDoge Krock: I've seen this in MC and MT 14:48 Krock GhostDoge, hmm? 14:58 GhostDoge Krock: https://mediacru.sh/3755f4136c5e 15:01 Vazon how do you give irc chat mod a name in your irc channel i can seem to get it right 15:02 Krock ^same with windows 15:02 Krock GhostDoge, great. that I meant 15:03 Krock ehm... 2 healthbars? 15:03 GhostDoge imo Minetest does it more correctly 15:03 GhostDoge Krock: I dunno how this happened 15:03 Krock :3 15:19 twoelk GhostDoge, you could use this http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/editor.html to study which pixels end up where. 15:20 twoelk it seems to indicate feet and arms are indeed mirrored. 15:20 GhostDoge twoelk: this image already helps me already http://i.imgur.com/rVsZcTP.png 15:22 * twoelk makes a note to ask Jordach or whoever made the original, wether that pic can be used on the wiki 15:25 GhostDoge Krock: good news the b3d model used in BFD, your game and my game works like in minecraft 15:25 Krock GhostDoge, seems like I need to update my server's game :3 15:32 * sfan5 meows at GhostDoge 15:33 lemonlake_ Aight. 15:34 lemonlake_ Anyone got additional opinions on xubuntu? 15:35 sfan5 opinions for what? 15:35 lemonlake_ Mainly, is it better than Mint? 15:35 lemonlake_ GhostDoge: that image has so much effort put into the face it's unbelievable 15:36 GhostDoge lemonlake_: you mean the cape here face? 15:37 lemonlake_ GhostDoge: yes 15:37 sfan5 lemonlake_: more up-to-date IIRC 15:37 lemonlake_ sfan5: aight, cos I'm burning the disc now and was wondering if anyone had any last moment 'o no it sucks' comments with a good reason why 15:37 GhostDoge lemonlake_: tell that Jordach :P 15:37 sfan5 lemonlake_: xubuntu is pretty good 15:38 sfan5 lemonlake_: which version? 14.04? 15:38 lemonlake_ sfan5: ya 15:39 crazyR sfan5: what could cause the mapper to produce a white image? al white 15:39 crazyR *all white 15:40 * sfan5 yays at lemonlake_ 15:40 sfan5 crazyR: python mapper or c++ mapper? 15:40 crazyR C++ one, most upto date as of last night 15:41 sfan5 hm 15:42 sfan5 crazyR: which arguments do you pass to the mapper? 15:42 crazyR sfan5: --geometry -800:-800+1600+1600 --max-y 80 15:42 LemonLake jiometree 15:43 LemonLake Krock: two healthbars is a new feature in MC, it allows a mod/plugin/command block to give the player a lower/higher max health 15:43 sfan5 crazyR: did you try omitting --max-y 80? 15:44 crazyR yeah. 15:44 crazyR im just about to revert the colours file to the default one, just to see if that might be the cause 15:45 sfan5 try that 15:46 Calinou we don't need 2 health bars for that 15:46 Calinou we need configurable max health… 15:46 Calinou which is currently a #define 15:53 LemonLake okay, burning it now 15:53 crazyR whats the diffrence between the python mapper and the C++ mapper? 15:53 LemonLake crazyR: one is for hippies and one is for hippos 15:53 crazyR or should a say whats the benefits 15:53 LemonLake take your pick 15:53 GhostDoge Krock: there's something in my eye :P https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Yx5brJFKHfnE.png 15:53 sfan5 crazyR: c++ mapper is faster, supports more backends and has --drawalpha 15:54 LemonLake GhostDoge: ouch 15:54 Krock GhostDoge, much ouch, where's the blood? 15:54 LemonLake is that tinemest or raftcrime? 15:54 LemonLake s/tinemest/timenest/ 15:55 GhostDoge LemonLake: raftcrime 15:55 LemonLake GhostDoge: ahh 15:57 crazyR C++ mapper is using 80-94% cpu is that normal? 15:57 sfan5 yes 15:57 sfan5 that is completly normal 15:58 crazyR :) 15:58 sfan5 if it uses more cpu it just means it does it's stuff faster 15:58 LemonLake aight 15:58 LemonLake im off to install this shit 15:58 * Krock wonders if is_ground_content has any use 15:58 LemonLake fafafaak 15:59 sfan5 Krock: I already answered that yesterday 15:59 Krock sfan5, possibly to someone else :3 15:59 Krock but I'll lok in the log 15:59 sfan5 Krock: yes, to someone elese 15:59 sfan5 else* 16:00 Krock 0 found at 2014-08-02 for word is_ground_content 16:01 GhostDoge Krock: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2394 16:01 Krock GhostDoge, yes I know but if I remove it, it won't change anything if I'm right 16:02 sfan5 Krock: the mapgen will carve through is_ground_content=true, nodes 16:02 sfan5 when e.g. making caves 16:03 Calinou successful troll: http://lichess.org/ioDCNskg/black#0 16:03 sfan5 !title 16:03 MinetestBot sfan5: omfg - Imgur 16:04 sfan5 how helpful 16:04 sfan5 I think I'm not going to open that with my unstable EDGE connection 16:04 Vazon can someone tell me how to give a irc mod server name??? it isnt working 16:04 sfan5 irc.nick maybe 16:05 sfan5 look in settings.lua 16:05 Vazon i did isnt working 16:05 sfan5 ask kaeza then 16:06 Vazon i still get thedefault random numbers 16:07 Calinou sfan5, it's a chess site, not many data 16:07 Calinou loads quickly here (I'm close to the server, located in France) 16:07 Calinou uses quite a lot of JavaScript of course 16:07 sfan5 Calinou: not even servers.minetest.net loads within 20 seconds.. 16:08 Calinou heh 16:09 sfan5 !server meow 16:09 MinetestBot sfan5: Meowtest 0.4.10 "SEGFAULTY" | minetest.org:30018 | Clients: 19/25, 5/19 | Version: 0.4.10 / meowtest_game | Ping: 224ms 16:09 sfan5 wow 16:09 sfan5 so many people 16:09 Calinou so many mobile client kids* 16:10 Vazon i wish there was a way to block mobile clients, my server has a ton of gui and pops and then they complain because they cant do anything 16:11 sfan5 Vazon: set the minimun required protocol version higher 16:11 Vazon i dont want to do that ether because i want people who use older versions of minetest on a desktop/laptops to still be able to play 16:11 rubenwardy Hi all! 16:12 Calinou enforce protocol, disallow empty password, use no_guests or similar (enabled by default in Carbone)… 16:12 Calinou limit max accounts per player to 5 (names_per_ip) 16:12 LemonLake ohi calinou 16:12 Calinou you're probably good to go with that already 16:12 Calinou Vazon, updating to 0.4.10 is nothing hard 16:12 Calinou people who don't know how to compile on Ubuntu can use the PPA anyway 16:12 VanessaE if you can't be assed to use 0.4.10, sucks to be you. 16:12 Vazon Calinou: we are using 0.4.10 dev 16:13 rubenwardy Is there any way to detect it at all? Do mobile clients respond at all differently than desktops? 16:13 sfan5 Vazon: try setting the minimum protocol ver. just a bit higher 16:13 sfan5 it will not block the most client but the mobile ones 16:13 LemonLake i dun goofed 16:13 sfan5 rubenwardy: no way to detect, way to block them right now is just to require a higher version 16:14 sfan5 LemonLake: wat r u doin'? 16:14 LemonLake I dunno wat I'm doin 16:14 LemonLake This makes senses of none to me 16:14 sfan5 what is your problem? 16:14 LemonLake Calinou mount point was /home yes? 16:15 Calinou yes, for your /home partition, which you shouldn't set as format 16:15 LemonLake Umm 16:16 Calinou rubenwardy, probably not, but you could add a parkour at server spawn (and add maptools:kill around to kill people who fly) 16:16 LemonLake No, its all in one partition 16:16 Calinou shouldn't be too hard 16:16 Calinou the parkour would be ridiculously hard to do on a mobile client 16:16 LemonLake Should I format that entire partition? 16:16 sfan5 Calinou: are you aware that damage if client-side? 16:16 sfan5 LemonLake: depends 16:16 Calinou sfan5, yes, but I don't know of any mobile client that disables damage that way 16:16 Calinou there are fly hacks 16:16 sfan5 do you want to loose all data on your hdd? 16:16 Calinou but god-mode? not sure 16:16 Calinou then format it, mount point /, type ext4 16:16 LemonLake No, of course not 16:16 Calinou LemonLake, if it's one partition, you can't keep it. 16:17 Calinou also have a swap partition around. 16:17 LemonLake Yeah, I've got a backup 16:17 Calinou (should be the size of your RAM, or slightly more) 16:17 LemonLake I think there's already one from mint 16:17 LemonLake I'll give y'all a scree shot of this, hold up 16:18 sfan5 LemonLake: I'd suggest 3 partitions: ext4, /, about 16GB; ext4, /home, all of the space; swap, 1GB, -; 16:18 * GhostDoge wonders LemonLake is doing 16:18 Calinou separate /home is less smart than you think 16:18 LemonLake https://mediacru.sh/WpF2D4Zuyphb 16:18 Calinou what if you run out of / (16 GB isn't that large)? 16:19 Calinou will you really upgrade by reinstalling? (hint: that's stupid) 16:19 Calinou LemonLake, uh, all stretched around screen 16:19 LemonLake Yea 16:19 Calinou so you don't have separate /home partition 16:19 LemonLake No 16:19 Calinou so format it as ext4, mount point / 16:19 LemonLake Yep 16:19 Calinou Samsung HD204UI! I had that disk before 16:20 LemonLake So is that all correct? 16:20 sfan5 Calinou: you can move partitions 16:20 sfan5 Calinou: and I did not even get above 8GB / partition 16:20 Calinou /dev/sda1 29G 8,2G 20G 30% / 16:20 Calinou this is my / partition currently 16:20 Calinou but next time, I won't separate /home, it has no point 16:21 sfan5 /dev/sda6 20G 11G 8,7G 55% / 16:21 sfan5 mine 16:21 sfan5 seperate /home is a good idea 16:21 Amaz Why? 16:22 LemonLake I repeat 16:22 Calinou in theory, it's meant to help you in case you switch distro; in practice, any serious user will have regular backups of their important data somewhere else (you should) and you can upgrade using in-distribution tools. 16:22 Calinou so, apart from complicating your life because you have to guess how much space your /home and / will use… 16:22 * Calinou shrugs 16:22 Amaz LemonLake, it all seems correct. 16:23 Amaz Right! 16:23 LemonLake Gdgd 16:23 Vazon Calinou: is it possible to add another row or and other page to the circlular saw?? because i have added 3 new blocks and im out of room to expand more lol 16:23 sfan5 Calinou: guess? pff. 32GB / and the rest /home will be enough for (almost) everyone 16:23 Amaz 2 tb disc... Nice! 16:23 LemonLake I'm trusting y'all 16:23 sfan5 Calinou: and it's not just switchting distros, but reinstalling too 16:24 * Amaz is somewhat worried... 16:24 Calinou sfan5, yes, see what I said about upgrading/reinstalling 16:24 * sfan5 curls up to Amazs lap 16:24 Calinou Amaz, there are 6 TB discs now 16:24 Calinou expensive, some of them use helium instead of air 16:24 LemonLake ^ 16:24 Amaz Wow. 16:24 Calinou (makes them very quiet at idle, noisy at load) 16:24 * Amaz is behind on the times 16:25 sfan5 Amaz: 'what? You don't use M-RAM yet?' 16:25 Amaz M-RAM??? 16:25 sfan5 !g M-RAM wikipedia 16:25 MinetestBot sfan5: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetoresistive_random-access_memory 16:26 Amaz Never heard of it till today. 16:27 Calinou sfan5, a SSD with V-NAND was recently released 16:28 Calinou (vertically stacked) 16:28 sfan5 ssd is too pricey 16:30 * Amaz pets sfan5 16:30 * sfan5 purrs 16:31 LemonLake Okay 16:32 LemonLake Let's do this 16:32 LemonLake Window title changed to "something else"... Genius 16:34 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake 16:40 Calinou sfan5, that one is insanely expensive, Samsung being high as usual 16:40 Calinou there's twice as cheap, heh 17:29 Krock yay! unicorn! 17:29 * Calinou gives Rarity to Krock 17:29 * Krock gives https://raw.githubusercontent.com/minetest/minetest_game/master/mods/doors/init.lua to Calinou 17:30 Calinou Error 503 backend read error 17:30 Calinou backend read error 17:30 Krock try refresh to get unicorn :) 17:30 Krock chance is at ~50% 17:34 GhostDoge Krock: that's because github uses unicorn ;) 17:34 Krock yes sure 17:34 GhostDoge Krock: https://github.com/blog/517-unicorn 17:35 Krock :) 17:35 Krock unicorn workers 17:41 * GhostDoge prefers thin over unicorn 17:43 LazyJ o/ kaeza 17:44 kaeza \o 17:44 crazyR sfan5: sorry for the delay i had to go out. just got back and even with the default colours file i get the same white image 17:44 kaeza afternoons 17:45 crazyR hi kaeza 17:48 lemonlake_ hey hey hey 17:49 LemonLake I must say, xubuntu is really cool 17:49 Amaz It all worked? 17:50 LemonLake jas 17:51 Amaz :) 17:51 * GhostDoge happily barks at LemonLake 17:52 LemonLake I don't have the same feeling as when I first installed a linux on this machine but I still really like this 17:52 LemonLake Right now I'm at the part that takes a few hours: styling, settinging and installing 18:11 rubenwardy Back! 18:12 jp Hi rubenwardy. 18:12 GhostDoge 05!04k07c08a03B 18:14 jp rubenwardy : could you add a function in NBE which can create straight (even in diagonal), and then the program turn these lines into the smaller aligned micro-cuboids as possible ? 18:14 jp straight lines* 18:15 Amaz ^ 18:15 PenguinDad ↑ 18:18 LemonLake ↑ 18:18 Calinou I must say, xubuntu is really cool 18:18 LemonLake Also a setting to define division. 18:18 Calinou everything I recommend tends to be cool, of course. 18:18 Calinou it's magic 18:18 LemonLake i.e. 1/8 = 8 microcubes for a diagonal of a node 18:18 LemonLake Calinou: indeed 18:18 LemonLake though I can't find a setting for scrollwheel speed, and neither can google 18:18 Calinou even when I recommend hardware, it happens 18:19 LemonLake that's a huge turn off, it's slow 18:19 LemonLake as 18:19 LemonLake hell 18:19 Calinou default (3 lines) is pretty standard 18:19 Calinou get a mouse with unlockable mouse wheel :P 18:19 Calinou like G500 18:19 LemonLake usually I use 5 lines 18:19 Calinou (you can push a button to make the mouse wheel scroll indefinitely) 18:19 Calinou very useful for coders and log browsers 18:20 rubenwardy Sounds like this: https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/issues/55 18:20 PenguinDad My scroll speed is 4.5 lines 18:21 LemonLake rubenwardy, if you could add that then I'd be happy to make a script for microcuboid lines ;) 18:21 rubenwardy XD 18:21 rubenwardy Bye all, I gtg 18:21 LemonLake kk 18:22 Amaz Calinou: The Light Table text editor you sort of recommended is really cool. 18:22 jp My question was not enough clear or ...? 18:22 LemonLake jp, what question? 18:22 LemonLake the NBE one? 18:22 jp yes 18:22 LemonLake Sounds like this: https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/issues/55 18:22 LemonLake rubenwardy, if you could add that then I'd be happy to make a script for microcuboid lines ;) 18:23 Calinou Amaz, yes, but hard to configure… have to edit a file by hand to specify font parameters 18:23 jp quite elusive... 18:23 LemonLake jp: why? 18:23 LemonLake it's waaay easier than you think :P 18:24 Calinou Amaz, at least its defualt syntax highlighting doesn't make comments look like useless cruft 18:24 Amaz Right, 18:24 Calinou unlike Atom 18:29 LemonLake How would I make my secondary 'drive' automatically mount? 18:33 Calinou LemonLake, ask in #ubuntu or #xfce probably 18:33 Calinou no idea 18:34 LemonLake oo, cfdisk looks fancy 18:34 LemonLake maybe it has a setting 18:34 Calinou cfdisk is to partition MBR tables. 18:34 Calinou has nothing to do with automatic mounting 18:34 Calinou LemonLake, maybe look at /etc/fstab though 18:37 LemonLake well um 18:37 LemonLake oops 18:37 LemonLake i worked out the command to mount it and it's kinda in the wrong place :/ 18:42 LemonLake okay, edited fstab 18:42 LemonLake brb 18:44 LemonLake okay.... 18:44 LemonLake mounting worked...hexchat started without a theme...second monitor didn't autostart 18:54 LemonLake An sh with the command 'sleep' solves everything >:) 18:58 Calinou LemonLake, theme? I don't seem to see anything theming-related on my HexChat 18:58 LemonLake not necessarily theme 18:58 LemonLake it just looked like windows classic 18:58 LemonLake probably because the window manager hadn't started at the time hexchat had 19:01 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake 19:01 * LemonLake meows at sfan5 19:10 * GTRsdk nyans at sfan5 19:11 * sfan5 nynas at GTRsdk 19:12 * PenguinDad looks at GTRsdk 19:16 GTRsdk so I think the best valued VPS for the money 19:16 GTRsdk is Vultr 19:16 GTRsdk so minetest should run real well for just $5 19:16 sfan5 how about digitalocean? 19:16 GTRsdk sfan5, I compared Vultr Chicacho vs DigitalOcean San Francisco, and Vultr CPUs are 2x the speed 19:17 GTRsdk and iirc Vultr gives more RAM for the $5 19:17 crazyR im using ramnode but they're a bit pricey 19:17 GTRsdk yeah 768 MB vs 512 MB 19:18 * sfan5 purrs 19:18 crazyR oh sfan did you get my message earlier? 19:18 sfan5 which one? 19:18 crazyR (6:44:13 PM) crazyR: sfan5: sorry for the delay i had to go out. just got back and even with the default colours file i get the same white image <-- 19:18 GTRsdk I've never tried ramnode, but it seems that Vultr is cheaper 19:19 GTRsdk I'm curious how many people I could get on a $5 Vultr.... 19:19 crazyR since then i removed the mapper fully and redownloaded and compiles, but still getting white image 19:19 sfan5 crazyR: can you file a bug? 19:19 crazyR yeah sure :) 19:19 sfan5 GTRsdk: 10, 15 max. unmodded 19:27 crazyR sfan5: https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/issues/11 let me know if you need more info or more testing 19:30 GTRsdk sfan5, I'll try 20 (once I get into position for running Vultr stuff real quick) then lol 19:30 GTRsdk since it is on SSDs and stuff 19:31 EvergreenTree mew 19:32 PenguinDad Hi EvergreenTree 19:54 LemonLake mo 19:58 kzz how do you run MT server> 19:58 kzz ? 19:58 Calinou kzz, to run a server in your client: go to Server tab 19:59 Calinou to start dedicated: http://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server 20:08 sfan5 GTRsdk: depends mostly on the cpu 20:21 LemonLake lua/build/liblua.a(loslib.o): In function `os_tmpname': 20:21 LemonLake loslib.c:(.text+0x29c): warning: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' 20:21 LemonLake y 20:34 VanessaE kaeza: *poke* 21:18 Calinou TIL about Meld (graphical diff viewer) 21:19 kzz how to get wool>? 21:19 VanessaE grow cotton 21:19 VanessaE harvest it for string 21:19 VanessaE craft 4 string in a sqaure 21:19 VanessaE square* 21:20 Calinou or shear a sheep found in Simple Mobs 21:20 Calinou (right click) 21:20 Calinou much, much easier 21:20 VanessaE h yes, forgot about that 21:20 kzz how to get shear? 21:21 VanessaE no clue :P 21:21 Calinou right click a sheep 21:23 kzz Calinou, no need for a tool? 21:23 kzz that's too easy 21:24 LemonLake kzz: are you an avid minecraft fan or something? 21:24 LemonLake you shouldn't necessarily be comparing mt to mc 21:24 kzz yeap 21:25 LemonLake while one is based on the other, they're different games 21:25 LemonLake mt is not an 'alternative' 21:25 kzz but not just that, in general I prefer a game that is hard to "win" (or in this case, to survive and reach goals) 21:25 LemonLake then be more unique with your suggestions 21:25 LemonLake or make your own game 21:25 Calinou kzz, oh, try to beat monsters 21:25 Calinou they have more health than you, deal 4-7 damage 21:25 Calinou Carbone is faster to play than minetest_game, but harder 21:26 Calinou it isn't about unemployment 21:26 kzz unempl? 21:27 * PenguinDad looks at BFD 21:29 Calinou TL;DR I hate it when such games take too much time to be played 21:29 Calinou so I made it faster to dig stuff, to craft stuff, to obtain stuff… to focus on building and fighting more 21:30 LemonLake who wants a song? 21:32 LemonLake nobody? k 21:36 Exio4 poor LemonLake 21:37 LemonLake Exio4: nobody likes me :( 21:37 * Exio4 hugs LemonLake 21:38 LemonLake Exio4: but srsly i found a thing 21:39 PenguinDad LemonLake: Show it to me! :) 21:39 LemonLake PenguinDad: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUx5IGGYkmq_bmL3LvEUil1wo-uOmRIS9 21:40 LemonLake for the majority of melodies these dudes make, there are 3-7 variations 21:40 LemonLake it scares me :( 21:40 kaeza VanessaE, ow 21:41 VanessaE kaeza: standby :) 21:41 kzz would it be hard to make the text appear on signs? that would be nice 21:42 VanessaE kzz: homedecor, signs_lib 21:42 LemonLake kzz: it's been done 21:42 VanessaE (which I happen to be working on right now) 21:42 kzz can I use that in Carbon? 21:42 kaeza !rainbow with colurz 21:42 MinetestBot 4wi7th8 c3ol12ur6z 21:42 VanessaE good question. 21:50 crazyR VanessaE what you currently doing with the homedecor signs? 21:53 kzz any hunger mod? working with Carbon 21:53 PenguinDad crazyR: I guess she's going to use these additions now https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/5884236046c4405eec7cfc12cdde0be9f48058b6 21:55 crazyR kool, would be cool if lua could use gd onthe fly, the possibilities would be endless 21:55 crazyR actually it can: http://ittner.github.io/lua-gd/ 21:55 crazyR thinks im gunna look into it 21:56 Calinou kzz, better_hud may or may not work 21:56 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=6342 21:56 LemonLake anyone got any ideas for factory? 21:56 Calinou far from perfect anyway (drains hunger even when AFK, quite fast) 21:56 Calinou it's Carbone, not Carbon BTW 21:56 LemonLake Calinou: how pronounce that? exactly as spelled? 21:56 kzz yeah testing that one now, Calinou 21:56 VanessaE crazyR: texture and dimension fixups 21:56 LemonLake like car bone 21:56 VanessaE nothing major 21:57 Calinou LemonLake, like you'd spell “carbon” 21:57 Calinou same way 21:57 Calinou it has an e, because it's a French word 21:57 LemonLake oh, so said exactly like carbon? 21:57 Calinou yes 21:57 LemonLake ahh 23:40 kaeza jebus... greek mythology can give you bad dreams 23:41 kaeza if you think a snake talking a human into eating an apple, or an old man going to kill his son because a voice told him is weird, imagine someone raping an ant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrmidon_(hero) 23:54 VanessaE kaeza: check homedecor git. opionions? 23:54 VanessaE -o 23:54 VanessaE Sokomine: check also; the textures should be much easier to read. 23:55 VanessaE site effect: some signs may have to be dug and re-placed because the models have changed slightly, requiring the text to be repositioned. 23:55 VanessaE (idk, might not actually be necessary) 23:56 kaeza seems good