Time  Nick            Message
00:01 luizrpgluiz     hi
00:04 WindHero        'ello
00:05 twoelk          oooooh SkyLands just rebuild my portico buildings from VEC in that :-)
00:05 twoelk          had to replace all my marble :-(
00:06 WindHero        hmm?
00:07 WindHero        when using place_schematic(), you can actually set the replacements field to replace certain blocks in the schem with a new one
00:08 WindHero        so like {"yourmod:marble", "skylands:quartz"}
00:08 WindHero        twoelk: what do you mean by VEC?
00:09 twoelk          VanessaE's creative server
00:10 twoelk          I guess that would be technic:marble
00:11 VanessaE        use building_blocks:Marble :-)
00:11 Zeno`           mtz:marble is best
00:11 Zeno`           heh
00:11 VanessaE        mtz:marble?  heretic!
00:11 VanessaE        ;)
00:12 Zeno`           xD
00:12 twoelk          any of these in skyland?
00:12 VanessaE        if it has homedecor, it has the one I mentioned ;-)
00:13 Zeno`           and samwiches are the best form of currency: https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512/raw/c1a848c43efe48a7d7daaecf8f3d286e3cd1e7ea/mtz_platinum_coin_1.png?raw=true
00:13 VanessaE        heh
00:13 Zeno`           I forgot that I named the coin a samwich and got very annoyed and confused the other day when people kept offering me "samwiches"
00:14 Zeno`           I thought they were having a go at me or something
00:15 twoelk          mh just default, moreblocks and skylands blocks in SkyLand game
00:17 WindHero        it currently does not
00:17 WindHero        I want to add more though
00:17 WindHero        especially the technic blocks
00:18 WindHero        I just shy away from creating TOO many optional dependencies
00:18 WindHero        But I built a whole tower out of technic marble on one server :)
00:18 VanessaE        just add homedecor
00:18 VanessaE        it has LOTS of neat stuff
00:18 VanessaE        :)
00:19 WindHero        and a HUGE filesize xD
00:19 twoelk          here inspect the non classic classizistic gatehouse from Braunschweig http://pastebin.com/uReKifjv
00:19 VanessaE        for homedecor?  naw
00:19 VanessaE        7.2 MB for homedecor
00:19 VanessaE        (wow)
00:19 WindHero        OK, guess it isn't HUGE
00:19 twoelk          I used quarter blocks on VEC though for the roof trimmings
00:20 WindHero        I'm thinking of DreamBuilder
00:20 VanessaE        naw, dreambuilder is huge
00:20 VanessaE        like 35+ MB.
00:20 WindHero        that's the one
00:20 WindHero        dreambuilder and BFD
00:20 VanessaE        make that 46 MB for dreambuilder
00:20 VanessaE        wow, it's getting fat :)_
00:20 WindHero        twoelk: downloaded, gonna check it out
00:22 twoelk          I'm not sure the complete homedecor let alone all of Dreambuilder fits the theme of SkyLands
00:23 WindHero        That's somewhat how I feel
00:23 WindHero        I like little portions here and there
00:23 VanessaE        :(
00:24 VanessaE        but.....but...
00:24 VanessaE        everyone likes it :(
00:24 WindHero        but overall SkyLands is more about exploration than settling down
00:24 WindHero        I like it too
00:24 WindHero        I used it quite a bit on Megaf's server and my other friend's server
00:24 VanessaE        good point
00:24 twoelk          do the skyland blocks support the circular saw?
00:24 WindHero        partially
00:24 WindHero        in SkyTest I have a few that work with it
00:24 WindHero        and am working on adding more
00:25 twoelk          Vanessa, I just installe Minetest for my nephews and Dreambuilder was the game of choice
00:25 VanessaE        \o/
00:26 WindHero        On my friend's server, I completed the prodigious task of creating a technic Nuclear Reactor
00:26 twoelk          and some mobs of course, and some alphabet blocks
00:26 WindHero        and I used HomeDecor to put a chainlink fence and barbwire around it
00:27 WindHero        can't have people killing themselves...
00:30 twoelk          actually, showing the kids (5 and 9y) the game and watching them explaining their father how to play was really fun
00:30 WindHero        ok, for some reasson I forgot how to place a .we file
00:30 WindHero        lol
00:31 VanessaE        //pos1  //allocate <filename>
00:31 twoelk          make pos1 and then load file.we
00:31 VanessaE        then if it looks like it fits,
00:31 VanessaE        //load <filename>
00:31 VanessaE        if it does not fit, move //pos1 to another location.
00:32 twoelk          lots of room er sky in SkyLands
00:32 WindHero        great, thank you
00:32 VanessaE        I *think* it puts the bottom, south-west corner of the region at pos1
00:33 WindHero        I was used to using //mtplaceschem
00:33 WindHero        twoelk: nice building!
00:33 twoelk          yeah but I like to look into the file
00:35 WindHero        I wonder if I should stick that in the game....
00:35 twoelk          visit VEC north road to see them with scenery ;-)
00:36 twoelk          go ahead if you like it, it's not a temple though
00:37 WindHero        Has that feel though, lol
00:37 WindHero        I'll think about it, that's for sure
00:38 WindHero        https://mediacru.sh/TLwDi8xw_-VW
00:38 twoelk          and it's not classic greek, rather 19th century Neoclassicism
00:38 WindHero        hmm, there's a problem..... jk
00:38 WindHero        hmm
00:38 WindHero        (I say "hmm" to much)
00:39 fu-fu           hmm
00:39 WindHero        there's a question:
00:39 WindHero        would it be too much to include technic in SkyTest?
00:41 RealBadAngel    including technic means: mesecons, pipeworks, moretres and some others too
00:41 WindHero        I already have the three explicitly mentioned ones
00:41 WindHero        although I remember there being one or two more...
00:42 WindHero        I'll have to look
00:43 twoelk          https://mediacru.sh/dEtarpB46IhC view before the road was widened
00:45 WindHero        very nice
00:45 WindHero        I see there's also gloopores installed in addition to technic
00:46 twoelk          https://mediacru.sh/h-feLGl8bT33 or try a round one (a little further north up the road)
00:46 WindHero        hmm.... if I put technic in, I'd probably trim some things down a bit
00:47 WindHero        also quite nice
00:48 WindHero        I would by necessity have to drop itemdrops
00:48 WindHero        (no pun intended)
00:48 WindHero        and probably get rid of stargate too
00:49 twoelk          doesn't technic also supply that usefull scafolding? that would reall fit into SkyLands
00:49 WindHero        I thought that was another mod...
00:49 WindHero        but maybe
00:49 twoelk          there may be 2 versions iirc
00:49 WindHero        currently putting the final touches on implementing TenPlus1's farming redo mod
00:53 twoelk          wasn't stargates a mod that cluttered the server with files?
00:53 WindHero        yup
00:55 WindHero        hmm... google searching "caverealms" brings up my mod as the 3rd result... curses, you MC servers!
00:56 twoelk          had been discussing a skyblocks themed game with my older nephews lately, was considering to drop the surface to say -25000 and making it a lava ocean
00:57 twoelk          intentionally making the surface useless and deadly and opening up more room for skylands
00:58 WindHero        In the "games" subforum, look at SkyTest
00:58 fu-fu           I made flowing water turn to water source, that was fun.
00:58 WindHero        that completely removes the ground if you use singlenode
00:58 WindHero        and automatically allows islands to generate in all areas
01:00 WindHero        welp
01:00 WindHero        if I DO put in technic....
01:00 LemonLake       whoa
01:00 LemonLake       shit happens in here when i gone
01:00 WindHero        it'll be a significant work investment
01:00 WindHero        lol
01:00 WindHero        I'll have to manually put in the oregen........
01:01 Exio4           "Given enough time, any programming language allowed to change approaches Lisp"
01:01 Exio4           haha
01:02 twoelk          well skytest was one of the games that set us musing ;-)
01:07 WindHero        well, gtg now, but I'll keep thinking over various ideas
01:07 WindHero        probably gonna push the farm changes tonight
02:07 jojoa1997       hi
02:08 fu-fu           ho
02:09 fu-fu           K, why is my sprite hanging out of the bottom and short ontop?
02:11 fu-fu           got it
02:41 MinetestBot     GIT: crobbins@localhost.localdomain commited to minetest/minetest: Fix issue 1527 6929206 2014-07-29T22:39:39-04:00 http://git.io/IRhNXg
02:44 Exio4           localhost.localdomain
03:13 WindHero        hmm....
03:13 WindHero        trying to update the moreblocks support in SkyTest
03:13 WindHero        but running into a problem
03:13 WindHero        what
03:14 WindHero        is the general procedure for making a node support the circular saw?
03:25 WindHero        nevermind, finally found the API file
03:25 WindHero        it was a .md instead of a txt....
03:36 Zeno`           WindHero, leak fixed
03:37 WindHero        :D
03:37 WindHero        :D :D :D :D :D
03:38 fu-fu           K, I'm.. not super familliar with lua/how this whole thing is implmented... I have an entity, how do I get it to do anything at all...?
03:39 WindHero        Try looking at the simple mobs API made by PilzAdam
03:39 fu-fu           I did, I couldn't find how they actuallly do anything.
03:40 fu-fu           I see how he solved one of the issues I'll have (getting the entity itself to do it.) but not what triggers it.
03:40 WindHero        minetest.register_on_globalstep()
03:40 WindHero        or something like that
03:40 WindHero        put most of your code in there
03:40 WindHero        http://dev.minetest.net/LuaEntitySAO
03:41 WindHero        scroll down to Lua Entity Properties
03:41 WindHero        to see how to make them react to various things
03:43 fu-fu           Ahh, it has it's own version of globalstep in itself.
03:51 WindHero        355 changed files with 6,342 additions and 3,818 deletions.
03:51 WindHero        and 2 changed files with 60 additions and 1 deletion.
03:51 WindHero        in other words.... SkyTest update!
04:00 fu-fu           "userdata expected, got table" ?!?
04:00 fu-fu           it's setvelocity.
04:02 WindHero        could you pastebin the code?
04:02 fu-fu           on_punch = function(self)
04:02 fu-fu           self.object.setvelocity({x=0,y=1,z=0})
04:02 fu-fu           end
04:03 WindHero        al
04:03 WindHero        *ah
04:03 WindHero        use : before setvelocity, not .
04:04 WindHero        : is Lua's primary function call operator
04:04 WindHero        I had so uch grief with that when I started Lua
04:04 WindHero        *much
04:04 fu-fu           IT FLYS!
04:04 WindHero        lol
04:04 fu-fu           So, what's the diffrance of that vs .
04:05 WindHero        . accesses a field of the object in question
04:05 WindHero        so like, node.name
04:05 WindHero        to get a value
04:05 WindHero        : calls an object's function in most cases
04:05 fu-fu           I see..
04:05 WindHero        so object:setvelocity() calls object's setvelocity() function
04:06 WindHero        the only place this rule of function calls is broken is with the minetest object
04:06 WindHero        e.g. minetest.register_node()
04:06 WindHero        but in all other cases, use :
04:06 fu-fu           Ah
04:07 WindHero        (I'm terrible at explaining this quirk of Lua... you'll get the feel for it)
04:07 fu-fu           K, knowing that's the exception helps.
04:07 WindHero        looking through other mods will also help
04:08 fu-fu           I was, I just didn't notice it was : vs .
04:09 Megaf           What could I draw now?
04:13 Zeno`           : passes self as the first parameter to the function call
04:13 Zeno`           so, I assume, it's the same as  blah.func(self, params)
04:13 Zeno`           just cleaner and nicer
04:15 fu-fu           AHH
04:15 fu-fu           even more sense.
04:16 Zeno`           it's kind of object-oriented syntactic sugar
04:16 Zeno`           well, not kind of... it is
04:17 fu-fu           I see, I've never really used object-oriented, I understand it, just not it's suttle bits and pecies.
04:23 WindHero        OOP is OP
04:24 fu-fu           I suppose, still never used  it.
04:24 fu-fu           Anyways, bedtime  for me. Good night, enjoy.
04:25 Zeno`           night
05:01 Exio4           actually
05:01 Exio4           OOP is underpowered
05:02 Exio4           it is so underpowered, that you need to use design pattern for having nice code
05:02 Exio4           a design pattern**
05:02 Exio4           i'm pretty sure adding folds, maps, filters, zip, list comprehesion, etc wouldn't hurt! :D
05:13 Zeno`           objected oriented is nice
05:13 Zeno`           depending on whether the person actually understands what OOP is and it not
05:15 Zeno`           maybe 50% of the C I write is "object oriented"
05:15 Zeno`           just doesn't have the fancy syntactic sugar (obviously)
05:21 Exio4           Zeno`, it isn't as nice as it could be with more "high-level" features
05:21 nman3600        Hiya
05:23 Zeno`           Exio4, more... functional things?
05:23 Exio4           yeah
05:23 Zeno`           depends I guess
05:23 Zeno`           but in general I'd agree
05:23 Exio4           design patterns seems like re-inventing the wheel
05:24 Zeno`           I have a friend who writes C in a manner that is kind of functional-oriented... it's hard to read C lol
05:24 Exio4           because 1) an "high-order-function" is WAY more simpler to use than a whole OOP mess, 2) the compiler/interpreter can do lots of things with it, "could lead to faster code, etc"
05:24 Zeno`           he normally programs in scheme and somehow he writes C in a similar manner
05:25 Exio4           wow
05:25 Exio4           any paste?
05:25 Exio4           would like to see that beast :P
05:25 Exio4           if you're coding in C you normally don't want to go too high-level, because if you do, you'd be using another language :P
05:25 Zeno`           hmm, not off hand, but when he's online I'll get some
05:25 Exio4           neat
05:25 Zeno`           his github is zyxwvuts but I don't think he has any of his unconventional C code there
05:26 Exio4           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule
05:28 Exio4           i'm going to sleep though
05:28 Exio4           it is a bit late for what i'm doing
05:28 Zeno`           hah :)
05:28 Exio4           i want to write a GC for a toy language
05:29 Exio4           not just a mark-'n'-sweep GC but more like a generational GC and some weird stuff i want to try
05:30 Zeno`           https://github.com/zyxwvuts
05:30 Zeno`           he doesn't have any of his fancy functional-like C there :(
05:31 Exio4           i was thinking about making a tiny "set" of linked lists functions helpers, and make it support dynamic types and kinda, emulate Lisp with C syntax
05:31 Exio4           of course i won't have one of its best things, the meta-programming part
05:31 Zeno`           Daniel already has them
05:32 Zeno`           I'll make him upload them
05:32 Zeno`           because it's quite interesting really
05:32 Exio4           someone should implementing lazy evaluation of real C functions under C
05:32 Exio4           _that_ would be insane
05:33 Exio4           actually
05:33 Exio4           not so hard i'm thinking
05:33 Zeno`           oh, it's possible
05:34 Exio4           you could emulate it easily with a struct and functions pointers and two pair of functions
05:34 Exio4           meh
05:34 Zeno`           yep
05:34 Exio4           now i don't want it because it doesn't seem too insane
05:34 Zeno`           the trick is making it readable :)
05:34 Exio4           the idea would be "abstract as much as you can"
05:34 Exio4           the serious thing here is
05:35 Exio4           the lack of pattern matching
05:35 Exio4           how can people live without that amazing feature?
05:35 Exio4           well, and algebraic data types
05:36 Exio4           Zeno`, have you played with Haskell?
05:37 Zeno`           Exio4, yes, but "played" is the operative word
05:38 Zeno`           I come from an imperative background so it took a lot of work to get my head around it (and other functional languages)
05:38 Exio4           who doesn't come from an imperative background?
05:39 Zeno`           dunno, but my order of learning was BASIC --> ASM --> C --> C++  (with Pascal, Modula2 and various other languages in there at some point)
05:39 Zeno`           For some reason I missed the whole lisp thing
05:41 Exio4           mine is (somehow reduced, add Perl, and other stuff in the middle!) Pascal -> C -> (coursera course: SML -> Racket -> Ruby) -> HS
05:41 Exio4           "programming languages" .. awesome name for the course, but can say hell, it is an amazing course!
05:42 Exio4           https://www.coursera.org/course/proglang
05:43 Exio4           we even implemented some cute MUPLs! :P
05:44 Exio4           this HW http://dpflug.udderweb.com/proglang-002/hw5.pdf
05:45 Exio4           anyway
05:45 Exio4           i'm going to sleep for realz
05:45 Zeno`           haha
05:45 Zeno`           sleep well then
06:43 jp              Hello. Does it possible to use the animated PNG (APNG format / *.png) in Irrlicht ?
06:44 Krock           hi
06:44 jp              hi
06:46 jp              So bad that we can't use .gif in this 3D engine...
06:48 Krock           there are animated png's
06:49 jp              It would be more efficient with that : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG
06:54 Krock           "An animated PNG (displays as static image in some web browsers)" - Didn't read that and wondered, why it's not animated :3
07:00 Kalista         has anyone had luck with mesecon switches? i've been trying to get them to turn off/on from an event(switch) which changs its state without the player needing to hit it
07:01 Krock           imposs. use player detectors
07:01 Krock           or drop an item on a detector plate
07:12 Kalista         ill try both, basically this is to move a lot of pistons and then have them automagically go back to thier positions after a set distancek pheraps doable with detectors
07:12 Kalista         node breaker almost work but unfortunately it kills blocks in one hit
07:15 Krock           it's funny when the node breakers remove piston pushers :D
07:15 sfan5           18<jp18> It would be more efficient with that : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APNG
07:15 sfan5           why more efficent?
07:41 Krock           sfan5, - jp quit (Remote host closed the connection)
07:41 sfan5           i know
07:41 Krock           :3
07:41 sfan5           but maybe someone else can tell me
07:42 * nman3600      strokes sfan5 :3
07:43 nman3600        (.^o^.)
07:43 * sfan5         meows at nman3600
07:43 * nman3600      wonders when Krock will put his server up
07:46 * nman3600      nudges Krock
07:46 * Krock         throws defrag.exe at nman3600
07:51 nman3600        Krock, Could I use your mapgen for my statue world map?
07:51 nman3600        You made a flat mapgen right?
07:51 Krock           core devs made mg_flags
07:52 nman3600        Krock, Your flatgen is just what I need.
07:52 nman3600        So could I use it and give you credit when I upload the map?
07:53 Krock           dude. it's WTFPL, so do what the fk you want to do with it
07:54 nman3600        Okay! Thanks
07:57 sfan5           using the mapgen has nothing to with  it's license
07:59 nman3600        Hi, Halo!
08:00 Halo            Hi nman :)
08:02 nman3600        Why is paint.net having an update once a week
08:02 nman3600        It's really pissing me off
08:05 nman3600        I'm starting off with the Sam skin statue
08:07 nman3600        Would you say the Sam skin has a dark green or a light green shirt?
08:21 nman3600        I have a sam skin statue with no head :P
08:23 jp              sfan5 : « why more efficent? »   Only one file with layers palette (instead of several PNG files or horizontally aligned).
08:24 jp              *vertically
08:24 sfan5           you can't use serveral pngs for animations
08:24 jp              and for particules ?
08:24 sfan5           I don't you can do that either
08:25 jp              APNG should be the solution...
08:33 nman3600        Finished the sam skin statue
08:39 nman3600        http://imgur.com/a/MHx5g#0
08:40 nman3600        Krock, Will your server be up at 10 AM?
08:42 Krock           it's 10:42
08:43 nman3600        It's 9:43 Where I live.
08:43 nman3600        Krock ^
08:43 Krock           future alert
08:43 nman3600        Krock lives in the future!
08:43 nman3600        So at 11 am your time it'll be up?
08:44 Krock           yes. because it's already up
08:44 nman3600        Yay!
08:45 nman3600        Krock, Did you look at the images I sent?
09:01 jp              sfan5 :  "img.png^[verticalframe:<t>:<n>"  can work animation in particlespawner ?
09:01 jp              for anim.*
09:10 sfan5           jp: I don't know
09:13 jp              Well, I give up...
09:14 Krock           never give up, it's a wonderful life
09:29 Calinou         100027 views of More Blocks topic
09:30 Krock           horray!
10:20 reactor         Anyone seen proller, thexyz?
10:20 Amaz            reactor #freeminer ?
10:21 reactor         Oh, thank you.
10:21 Amaz            np
10:33 nman3600        Woohooo! Well done Calinou1
10:33 nman3600        Calinou!*
10:33 nman3600        Oh he left.
10:34 LemonLake       nman3600: tab completion comes in handy
10:34 LemonLake       additionally comes with knowing that said person has left
10:34 nman3600        LemonLake, Poor giz is ill. :(
10:34 LemonLake       nman3600: just shut up
10:35 LemonLake       it's no big deal anyway
10:35 LemonLake       he'll get better
10:35 LemonLake       plus it's not for definite he's ill
10:35 nman3600        He's been vomiting for the last 2 days
10:35 LemonLake       <LemonLake> nman3600: just shut up
10:35 nman3600        Okay.
10:36 * nman3600      downloads the newest skin database
10:36 LemonLake       you don't have to announce that
10:36 nman3600        :D
10:37 nman3600        Is there a way to download them all? I can only find seperate downloads
10:42 nman3600        Do I have to download them all seperate?
10:45 * Krock         points at update_from_db.py and mt_skins_updater.exe at u_skinsdb
10:55 nman3600        How long does it take Krock?
10:56 Krock           1 minute - 30s
10:56 nman3600        Still trying to update page 0?
10:57 nman3600        Krock ^
10:57 Krock           which updater are yu using?
10:57 nman3600        The newest one on your github.
10:58 Krock           so you mean the .exe? It requires the json library
10:58 nman3600        How do I get that?
10:58 Krock           it's included there and should be in the same flder
10:58 nman3600        Newtonsoft.json?
10:59 Krock           yes that one should be in the same folder
10:59 nman3600        Yes it is
10:59 nman3600        What do I do then?
10:59 Krock           make sure, you can modify the u_skins folder
11:00 Krock           if you can, the updater can, too
11:00 Krock           retry
11:01 nman3600        The mod itself or the one in the updater's folder?
11:02 Krock           both
11:02 nman3600        And as in modify, What do you mean, Krock
11:03 Krock           nvm, just try again and insert page 1 to start
11:03 nman3600        I press enter and it starts page 0?
11:05 Krock           use numbers
11:05 nman3600        "Start updating at page 0"
11:06 nman3600        I only need all the textures.
11:12 nman3600        Krock I only need the skin textures.
11:13 Krock           then edit nman3600, there are the textures, base64 encoded http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/api/get.json.php?getlist&page=1
11:14 Krock           *then edit update_from_db.py nman3600, otherwise...
11:15 nman3600        I'm really confused now..
11:16 nman3600        All I need is a way to download all the skin textures, AT ONCE
11:19 nman3600        Nevermind I'll just look at the skins from the website
11:37 LemonLake       Krock: I'll go do it for him
11:40 fireglow        This is hilarious https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=149199#p149199
11:41 Amaz            Yep, it is!
11:42 Krock           I like such conflicts
11:43 Krock           the one side calls it feature, the other one wants the old version
11:43 fireglow        if farming_plus wants to be a minetest mod, it should try not to break with minetest
11:43 Amaz            +fireglow
11:44 Krock           fireglow: *minetest_game
11:44 Krock           "minetest_game mod"
11:44 fireglow        dude whatever is the default
11:44 Amaz            :P
11:45 PenguinDad      whatever isn't the default iirc :P
11:46 fireglow        haha
11:52 LemonLake       Krock: Done. He didn't know what a path is.
11:53 Krock           ah. footsteps^10 = path
11:53 LemonLake       genius
11:53 LemonLake       The reason it didn't work is because it was downloading the skins to a null directory
11:55 Krock           hmm I thought I added a filter for that with an error message :/
12:44 nman3600        Jordach!
12:44 Jordach         if you want a good amd chip - A10s work fine https://cdn.mediacru.sh/KjzA-_BhZ5We.png
12:44 nman3600        http://imgur.com/a/MHx5g#0
12:45 nman3600        I made a statue of the sam skin.
12:45 nman3600        Since you were the creator of the sam skin, I want your opinion on it.
12:49 nman3600        Jordach ^^
12:49 nman3600        I just finished a zeg 9 statue
12:50 nman3600        zeg9*
12:57 PenguinDad      nman3600: looks like the very first sam skin
12:57 nman3600        PenguinDad Yes.
13:14 Krock           Jordach, <3 7s lag
13:17 * sfan5         meows at Krock
13:17 * Krock         meows at sfan5
13:18 sfan5           meow
13:18 * PenguinDad    isn't using a 7457 line long .x file in his game anymore
13:18 Calinou         text model formats ftw
13:19 * Krock         wonders what PenguinDad uses now as replacement
13:19 PenguinDad      Krock: https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/default/models/character.b3d
13:20 Krock           96kb
13:21 Krock           gonna use that one, too :D
13:23 PenguinDad      !c 6*16
13:23 MinetestBot     96
13:26 PenguinDad      my calculations for my rainbowsword mod were correct \o/
13:29 * sfan5         licks PenguinDad
13:31 * PenguinDad    pets sfan5
13:32 * sfan5         meows
13:39 Jordach         more interestingly with that model is, it happens to have fixed animations
13:40 jojoa1997       what model
13:44 Jordach         [14:19:55] <PenguinDad> Krock: https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/default/models/character.b3d
13:45 * Jordach       noticed something is wrong with the Steamcommunity workshop pages
13:45 Jordach         THERE'S NO SHITTY TEXT SPAM
13:47 jojoa1997       :O
13:51 Jordach         https://medium.com/@willkirkby/twitter-and-audio-steganography-568c8eae5ead
13:51 * Jordach       likes this idea
14:01 Jordach         >90 bones in current blender model
14:01 Jordach         and some of them aren't used D:
14:12 PenguinDad      sfan5: something for you https://bitbucket.org/PenguinDad/base_game/commits/9e50f6d298043449024c014b3d6b9bcdbb4eb58b
14:24 * Jordach       knows a cat that will only mew at Jordach
14:36 * PenguinDad    meows at sfan5
14:36 fireglow        /d
14:36 fireglow        oops
14:37 Exio            /hi
14:37 Krock           PenguinDad, there's a heavy wall of changed lines coming to that game
14:38 PenguinDad      Krock: you mean the model change?
14:39 Krock           PenguinDad, yes. I changed some things there, but it sohuld be backwards compatible
14:45 * Krock         sees, The heavy wall reaches PenguinDad
14:45 Krock           KWROOOMMM
14:46 PenguinDad      I'm not even sure if the patch will apply :D
15:45 sfan5           PenguinDad: <3
16:59 PenguinDad      I found a cactus colony https://cdn.mediacru.sh/oNUQ3Kg-ESnT.png
17:00 Calinou         1UP-Tool?
17:00 Calinou         also we really need a client-side mod to show held item in hand :(
17:01 Krock           PenguinDad, which TP?
17:03 PenguinDad      Krock: Carbone textures
17:03 Krock           oke
17:03 PenguinDad      Calinou: https://bitbucket.org/PenguinDad/base_game/commits/d15b44aa78588c9a38ab8f9bab3e8829b3f014dc
17:04 nman3600        Krock, I've nearly finished the wheat farmer statue, Then I'll make your one.
17:04 Krock           crazy stuff
17:04 Calinou         ah
17:04 Calinou         not really useful
17:05 Calinou         mostly for testing
17:05 PenguinDad      Just like the craft recipe checker
17:07 * nman3600      sticks his middle finger up at hexchat
17:07 nman3600        It's really been pissing me off lately
17:15 VanessaE        ok I need a bit of help...
17:15 VanessaE        From my game, I need to enforce,   mgv6_np_apple_trees = 0, 0, (0, 0, 0), 0, 0, 0
17:15 VanessaE        or anything equivalent to stop default apple trees from generating.
17:16 VanessaE        already modified the game code to stop them from spawning from a sapling (I want moretrees to handle that)
17:18 VanessaE        I guess just include a minetest.conf in the top level of the game ?
17:18 VanessaE        (with the above setting in it, along with whatever else I need)
17:21 Vazon           VanessaE: do have any idea why im getting this error with this code? error = http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7906582/ code = http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7906581/ | if i remove the bottom barter part it works fine
17:22 PenguinDad      Vazon: put the minetest.conf with the settings you want in the same folder as the game.conf
17:22 PenguinDad      * VanessaE
17:23 Vazon           o i was so confused for a second lol
17:23 VanessaE        PenguinDad: ok, thought so.  let's see how this works out then.
17:24 PenguinDad      VanessaE: but the settings can still be overridden by the settings in the normal minetest.conf
17:24 VanessaE        that's fine
17:26 * VanessaE      waits for the world to generate out a ways
17:26 VanessaE        hopefully zeroing out those values will suffice.
17:27 VanessaE        yep, seems to have worked.
17:27 VanessaE        thanks a bunch, PenguinDad
17:27 VanessaE        Vazon: I'll look at your code in a sec.
17:27 Vazon           ok thanks
17:34 nman3600        THAT'S IT
17:34 nman3600        SCREW YOU HEX CHAT YOU..
17:35 PenguinDad      nman3600: maybe try quassel
17:35 nman3600        Is it for windows?
17:35 VanessaE        Vazon: can you pastebin the entirety of the broken lua file?
17:35 zash            irssi in screen accessed over ssh, like a pro! ;)
17:35 VanessaE        the error with its line numbering makes no sense with your paste
17:36 nman3600        PenguinDad, Is it for windows
17:36 PenguinDad      nman3600: Jordach uses it so it must be for windows
17:36 VanessaE        zash: I remember my days of dial-up shells and BitchX :)
17:36 Vazon           that is in the a different mod ( pipeworks compat.lua) i have a denpency to it
17:37 nman3600        I'm not liking the look of quassel
17:38 Vazon           pipeworks compat.lua file :http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7906715/
17:38 nman3600        http://imgur.com/a92G2w9
17:40 VanessaE        18:27:14: ERROR[main]: ...60784\bin\..\games\minerealms_game\mods\money/compat.lua:4: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
17:40 VanessaE        that's not one of pipeworks' files.
17:40 VanessaE        I need to see that file.
17:40 Vazon           you did
17:41 VanessaE        oh you copied pipeworks' compat.lua into your mod?
17:41 * nman3600      has to deal with HexChat for a while
17:41 Vazon           code = http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7906581/
17:41 Vazon           that is the that file
17:41 VanessaE        impossible.
17:42 VanessaE        line 4 doesn't have the pairs() call.
17:42 VanessaE        unless you deleted the comments from the top of the file.
17:42 Vazon           hold on
17:42 Vazon           oops wrong erro
17:43 Vazon           error
17:43 VanessaE        also don't copy the clone node functionb
17:43 VanessaE        it's deprecated.
17:43 Vazon           http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7906760/
17:43 VanessaE        use minetest.override_item() instead.
17:43 Vazon           ok
17:44 VanessaE        pipeworks' compat.lua file is old and needs rewritten.
17:44 Vazon           kk :)
17:45 VanessaE        so yeah, just don't use that file at all.
17:45 Vazon           ... i have to
17:45 VanessaE        use minetest.override_item() to do the work.  that's a 0.4.10 command
17:45 VanessaE        it does the same job
17:45 VanessaE        I'm gonna go in and factor-out that code now.
17:46 Vazon           i must use that file to make money shops work with pipeworks :|
17:46 VanessaE        no you don't./
17:46 VanessaE        use the override_item command
17:46 VanessaE        it does the same thing as the clone node command
17:46 Vazon           failed
17:46 VanessaE        it just works slightly differenyt.
17:46 Vazon           override doesnt work
17:46 VanessaE        yes it does.
17:47 VanessaE        you just have to use it differently than clone_node
17:47 PenguinDad      It should work in 0.410 and later
17:47 Vazon           http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7906789/
17:47 PenguinDad      *0.4.10
17:47 VanessaE        clone_node is bad code
17:47 VanessaE        don't use it
17:47 VanessaE        gimme a bit and I'll finish this and you can see how it works.
17:49 Vazon           ok thanks
18:05 Krock           weee... 6th server crash without any message
18:07 nman3600        I've had enough of HexChat
18:07 nman3600        I am now using XChat
18:08 NakedFury       why?
18:08 nman3600        HexChat, was continous crashing for me
18:08 nman3600        No it's not my internet
18:09 nman3600        It was HexChat
18:09 NakedFury       weird
18:09 NakedFury       but if its fine with xchat for you then uninstall hexchat
18:10 nman3600        I did uninstall HexChat
18:10 nman3600        After I stuck my middle finger up at it for about a minute
18:11 PenguinDad      I wouldn't pay 15.99€ for an IRC client
18:12 Krock           15$ need at least an integrated voice function over a special server
18:12 VanessaE        Vazon: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/blob/e2a8c0306621e1e9d86a2a97271000606da7b3a0/compat.lua
18:12 sfan5           >IRC
18:12 sfan5           >voice
18:12 sfan5           wait
18:12 Krock           with an auto translate function
18:12 PenguinDad      lol
18:12 sfan5           it's Internet Relay Chat
18:13 VanessaE        Vazon: THAT is how you use override_item()
18:13 sfan5           not Internet Relay Voice Chat
18:13 Krock           k.
18:13 PenguinDad      Krock: why not video and voice chat? :P
18:13 Krock           even better!
18:13 Vazon           o ik that, but i use register_node(:name:node)
18:13 Krock           Vazon, doesn't matter
18:13 VanessaE        Vazon: override_item is used to redefine nodes properly.
18:14 Vazon           and i thought you ment just replace clone node with override, and it would work
18:14 VanessaE        use it when you need to modify a node's individual properties
18:15 * Krock         hears a KKZ KKZ  KKZ sound from those sheepS soutside
18:15 Krock           lound eating.
18:16 nman3600        It's doing it on XChat now!
18:16 Krock           eating sheep?
18:16 PenguinDad      I know hoodedice's name :D
18:16 Krock           PenguinDad, and I know yours
18:16 PenguinDad      Krock: really?
18:16 Krock           "Max Mustermann"
18:16 Krock           there ya go
18:16 * nman3600      HAS HAD ENOUGH OF THIS FUCKING XCHAT ALREADY
18:17 * sfan5         meows at nman3600
18:17 * nman3600      puts both middle fingers up at XCHAT
18:17 VanessaE        now now
18:17 VanessaE        xchat is nice.
18:17 * Krock         gives nman3600 ntalk.de
18:17 sfan5           nman3600: use quassel
18:17 nman3600        NO
18:17 sfan5           Krock: nettalk is the worst client
18:17 sfan5           even utf-8 is broken
18:17 nman3600        I fucking hate the look of quassel
18:17 nman3600        VanessaE, I have continous crashes on XChat and HexChat
18:18 Krock           sfan5, false. the clients which cost, are even worse
18:18 nman3600        ^
18:18 sfan5           Krock: xchat at least supports utf-8
18:18 Krock           hmm maybe I use unicode...no idea
18:18 VanessaE        nman3600: never crashes for me.
18:18 nman3600        It must be my internet then
18:18 VanessaE        I blame your OS or your window manager.
18:19 nman3600        How the fuck can I fix this?
18:19 Krock           not with fuck.
18:19 nman3600        I need a good client that won't crash everytime I drop 30 fucking frames
18:21 Krock           sfan5, it would be amazing if there would be a "fuc*" counter in the IRC stats
18:21 nman3600        Jordach will be most of them :P
18:21 nman3600        I've lost times of how many times I've seen him say fuck
18:22 Jordach         fuck that signal to noise
18:22 Jordach         ;3
18:22 nman3600        FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
18:22 nman3600        I am actually really pissed at my internet lately
18:23 sfan5           bug your ISP
18:23 sfan5           not us
18:24 nman3600        I want to go to my internet provider and shove my middle finger in the faces
18:24 sfan5           then do that
18:25 nman3600        I can't
18:25 nman3600        I'm only 10
18:25 sfan5           ^ lol
18:26 nman3600        ......
18:26 nman3600        FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
18:28 nman3600        I'm going to use the crappy website now
18:29 nman3600        Agh I have to use this piece of crap
18:30 Krock           eww, hold it away. unbelieveable, this taste
18:31 nman3600        Krock the shading on the skin you sent me is impossible to get right
18:31 nman3600        It's gonna be a bit "bright"
18:31 Krock           use white wool
18:31 nman3600        for what bit?
18:31 nman3600        Most of it is green
18:31 Krock           everying. makes drawing easier
18:32 nman3600        I'm making a statue.......
18:32 nman3600        It looks nothing like a guy who live in the trash.
18:38 Krock           Always look on the bright side of life!
18:41 EvergreenTree   Quassel is awesome
18:41 EvergreenTree   Idk why nman doesn't like it
18:43 nman3600        Back on HexChat
18:43 nman3600        Have to deal with the piece of shit
18:43 nman3600        Afk
18:48 LemonLake       Niall.
18:48 LemonLake       Stop swearing. You're 10.
18:48 Krock           and you're late
18:52 * sfan5         meows at LemonLake
18:58 Krock           http://i.imgur.com/56gGsq3.jpg
18:58 Krock           *png
19:05 mati1           hi all
19:05 Krock           hi alone
19:05 mati1           :D
19:35 jesse__         hi, my name is Jesse and I'm wondering what the best way to update the game engine is from 4.9.
19:36 sfan5           which operating system?
19:36 jesse__         Ubuntu. I installed from the repos.
19:36 jesse__         I would check the site but it's currently down.
19:36 sfan5           ppa or the official repos?
19:36 sfan5           down?
19:37 jesse__         official repos.
19:37 sfan5           mhm, really
19:37 sfan5           use this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable
19:38 jesse__         thanks.
19:39 Calinou         the other way is, compile Git
19:39 Calinou         this way you live on the bleeding edge, with latest stuff
19:40 Calinou         https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3837
19:40 sfan5           Calinou: isn't the edge getting hurt from all the bleeding? :(
19:41 sfan5           o/ jordan4ibanez
19:41 jordan4ibanez   \o sfan5
19:44 * jojoa1997     gives sfan5 a rainbow kitten
19:44 PenguinDad      05K04i07t08t03e09n
19:45 sfan5           !rainbow I like rainbow kittens
19:45 MinetestBot     4I l7ike8 ra3inb12ow 6kit13ten4s
19:45 jojoa1997       2I3 4l5i6k7e8 9r10a11i12n13b14o15w2 3k4i5t6t7e8n9s10 11t12o13o
19:46 PenguinDad      10I 11l02i12k06e 13r05a04i07n08b03o09w 10k11i02t12t06e13n05s 04t07h08r03e09e
19:46 * sfan5         meows at PenguinDad
19:48 jojoa1997       05m04e07o08w 09s03f11a10n125 02m06e13o15w
19:48 sfan5           meow :3
19:49 PenguinDad      10s11q02u12a06w13k 05j04o07j08o03a091109119027 12s06q13u05a04w07k
19:50 PenguinDad      <3 https://soundcloud.com/pegboardnerds/pegboard-nerds-hero-da-tweekaz-guitar-hero-mix
19:53 EvergreenTree   PenguinDad: <3
19:53 EvergreenTree   I listened to it already
19:53 EvergreenTree   :3
20:00 * sfan5         meows at EvergreenTree
20:00 * EvergreenTree barks at sfan5
20:00 * sfan5         is a cat
20:00 * EvergreenTree is a tree
20:00 VanessaE        first time I saw the TREE start barking.
20:01 EvergreenTree   Bark.
20:01 EvergreenTree   I have much bark
20:01 PenguinDad      Now I know why so many people hate TOFU
20:01 PenguinDad      I can bark too
20:02 * VanessaE      points her chihuahua at EvergreenTree.  I'm warning you, I have one of these and I know how to use it!
20:02 VanessaE        :D
20:02 * EvergreenTree drops a pinecone on it
20:02 EvergreenTree   Take that!
20:03 PenguinDad      >:D
20:03 * VanessaE      cooks the pinecone for its pine nuts
20:03 EvergreenTree   Also, how did you manage to teleport all the way over to me?
20:03 VanessaE        how else?  /teleport EvergreenTree
20:04 EvergreenTree   I want a /teleporter
20:05 PenguinDad      /teleport @random @random :P
20:08 VanessaE        bbl
20:12 Jordach         everytime i play skyrim i miss the fun stuff
20:13 * sfan5         meows at Jordach
20:43 nman3600        ...
20:43 nman3600        As  I get back it crashes
20:44 Calinou         Jordach, play Carbone, it has that fun stuff
20:44 Calinou         there are no soccer balls in Skyrim
20:45 nman3600        I might start playing carbone again soon.
20:45 Jordach         Calinou, you mean Carcrash :3
20:45 Calinou         Jordach, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/videos/recording-2014-07-30_20.29.16.webm
20:45 Calinou         relevant
20:46 Calinou         way better than FlightGear
20:47 nman3600        Calinou, When's the next Carbone update?
20:52 Calinou         nman3600, it's rolling-release, constantly evolving
20:52 Calinou         just make sure to git pull on a regular basis
20:52 Calinou         or, if you don't use Git, to re-download the game each week or so
20:52 Exio            you should make tags
20:52 nman3600        Calinou, Would you like me to make a statue of your skin in my statue world project?
20:53 Exio            like every two weeks
20:55 WindHero        I've been trying to get into the habit of tagging my last version of a mod before a significant update
20:55 nman3600        Minetest won't let me turn my view distance up only down (it's on 5 and I want it higher, IT OWN'T LET MEEE....) (Yes I am talking about +/-)
20:56 WindHero        it's certainly easier than creating new branches :P
20:56 WindHero        hmm
20:56 WindHero        go in the config file and change it
20:57 nman3600        15 blocks shouldn't be so bad
20:57 nman3600        Any higher than 20 lags me.
20:58 nman3600        15 nodes*
20:58 jojoa1997       blocks nodes they are all the same :P
20:59 nman3600        Not really.
20:59 WindHero        no
20:59 jojoa1997       though 15 node radius :/
20:59 jordan4ibanez   Calinou,  what is that game?
20:59 * Calinou       is trying installing Atom around
20:59 Calinou         lots of packages
20:59 WindHero        blocks refers to mapblocks
20:59 jojoa1997       Calinou what is https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/videos/recording-2014-07-30_20.29.16.webm from
20:59 nman3600        WindHero, Correct!
20:59 Calinou         https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9033
20:59 WindHero        which are 16 nodes wide
20:59 jojoa1997       WindHero nman3600 blocks refer to a cubic structure
21:00 Calinou         nman3600, yes it's fine
21:00 WindHero        ofc
21:00 WindHero        I merely said wide
21:00 Calinou         Installing metrics@0.33.0 ✓
21:00 * Calinou       rage face
21:00 jojoa1997       mapblocks refer to a 16*16*16 are full of 1*1*1 meter objects
21:00 WindHero        yes.
21:00 Calinou         the famous package that sends stuff to Google Analytics
21:00 WindHero        D:
21:00 WindHero        >:O
21:01 * nman3600      is currently working on a oOChainLynxOo Statue
21:01 WindHero        between Google and the US Gov't, though, I think I'd prefer google to know more about me :P
21:01 * WindHero      is very controversial
21:01 sfan5           Calinou: disable it...
21:02 * WindHero      is watching Slayers
21:03 Calinou         sfan5, yes, but how to do that before first stat? delete package?
21:03 Calinou         start*
21:03 Calinou         if I start then go to options menu, it may still send some
21:03 sfan5           just delete it
21:03 Calinou         yes
21:03 Calinou         I had to install Node from official site, not from packages :'( wasn't 1.4.x
21:04 Calinou         there were binaries available, I just had to move everything to /usr/local
21:04 Calinou         that's easy installation for once
21:04 PenguinDad      compiling by hand is easy too :P
21:04 sfan5           arch linux is easy too
21:05 Calinou         the Node binaries work out of the box
21:06 Calinou         so why compile? it's not like I want to contribute or use development version of Node
21:06 Calinou         hmm, no Lua support installed by default? (seen by reading downloaded package list)
21:07 jojoa1997       Calinou what was that game with the spaceship called?
21:07 Calinou         Stunt Rally: http://code.google.com/p/vdrift-ogre/
21:08 Calinou         spaceships aren't in 2.3, only in development version, upcoming 2.4
21:09 PenguinDad      Some paintings in carbone seem to be tracks from Stunt Rally :D
21:10 Calinou         yes, definitely
21:10 Calinou         init.lua of paintings says so
21:10 Jordach         get real painting silly kitty
21:11 jojoa1997       so
21:11 jojoa1997       Calinou do i have to install stunt rally?
21:12 jojoa1997       s/install/compile/
21:12 Exio            i don't think your computer could handle it
21:12 Exio            what is your GPU?
21:13 jojoa1997       um
21:13 jojoa1997       how do i tell?
21:13 Calinou         Atom is far from fast to start, compared to Geany
21:13 Calinou         28-29jojoa199728- VERSION Hexchat EMERALD EDITION!
21:13 Jordach         and this is why i use Notepad++
21:13 Calinou         great, I have no idea what your OS is
21:13 jojoa1997       :D
21:13 Jordach         simple stable and just fucking works out of the box
21:13 Exio            Jordach, >notepad++
21:13 jojoa1997       Ubuntu
21:13 Exio            notepad--
21:13 Calinou         which version?
21:13 * Jordach       pokes LemonLake with the irony version
21:13 Calinou         14.04 is preferred
21:13 jojoa1997       14.04
21:14 Calinou         https://code.google.com/p/vdrift-ogre/wiki/Compiling
21:14 jojoa1997       IT IS HUGE
21:14 Exio            Calinou, i'll be installing xubuntu
21:14 Exio            all your fault
21:14 Calinou         however! you don't want to use in-repository MyGUI
21:14 jojoa1997       or my download is small
21:14 Exio            jojoa1997, do you like it big?
21:14 jojoa1997       no
21:14 Calinou         sadly, you'll have to get MyGUI svn by hand, then compile and install it
21:14 jojoa1997       bad Exio
21:14 jojoa1997       dont bring that out
21:14 * VanessaE      is back.
21:14 Exio            wb V
21:15 Exio            Calinou, how many seconds is the make in your system?
21:15 Exio            or minutes
21:15 jojoa1997       wait wait wait a second
21:15 Jordach         Exio, i may be considering the octa core fx model AMD cpus
21:15 jojoa1997       Calinou is whatever is in the linux download able to be gotten from the git
21:16 Jordach         jojoa1997, go back to windows, you're not listening
21:16 jojoa1997       Jordach no
21:16 * PenguinDad    slaps Jordach
21:16 Exio            Jordach, i've a 6100
21:16 Exio            a new gen vishera would be nice
21:16 Jordach         PenguinDad, meh
21:16 WindHero        to each their own.
21:16 Exio            sadly no steamroller FX
21:17 Calinou         jojoa1997, or you can use stable version 2.3… much, much easier
21:17 Jordach         i quite happily run Linux in a VM just so i get goddamn IRC mod working
21:17 jojoa1997       oh i forgot i had the pdf on here
21:17 Calinou         not as featureful, but easier to get working
21:17 Calinou         jojoa1997, lspci | grep VGA
21:17 jojoa1997       Jordach yeah but a vm on my computer is slow
21:17 Jordach         and yet still not noticed the goddamn lag produced by two cores
21:17 Calinou         type that in a terminal to know your graphics card
21:17 Calinou         http://sourceforge.net/projects/stuntrally/files/2.3/StuntRally-2.3-linux.tar.xz/download
21:17 jojoa1997       Calinou i recently downloaded a pdf with all the specs of my pc
21:17 Calinou         724 MB
21:18 Calinou         jojoa1997, you certainly don't need that
21:18 Exio            jojoa1997, two cores? i normally let my VMs have access to 4 cores
21:18 Exio            or 3 at least
21:18 Exio            :p
21:18 Calinou         the thing I gave you just outputs a single line in a terminal
21:18 jojoa1997       AMD M880G Chipset with ATI Mobility RadeonTM HD 4250 Graphics
21:18 Calinou         will probably be unplayable
21:18 Calinou         you can try Lowest preset
21:18 Calinou         we never know
21:18 jojoa1997       Exio and you talk about being poor when you have a 4 core computer
21:18 Exio            six
21:18 Exio            not 4
21:18 jojoa1997       the nerv
21:18 jojoa1997       at least a 4
21:19 Exio            jojoa1997, my virtual machines
21:19 * jojoa1997     thinks Exio has no money cause he spends it all
21:19 * Jordach       doesn't even get anything paste= the blackness
21:19 Jordach         -e=
21:19 Exio            that computer is a year and half old after being using a netbook for 4 years
21:19 Exio            and an AMD duron since 2001
21:19 jojoa1997       Jordach lol
21:20 jojoa1997       so Exio you got a computer 1.5 years ago
21:20 Calinou         Atom ends up not feeling as reactive as Geany, of course…
21:20 Calinou         so I'll keep Geany
21:20 Calinou         it's not like my PC is too slow
21:20 Jordach         jojoa1997, i'm already hitting rendering speed limits
21:20 Jordach         i need octa core or even 2x octas
21:21 Jordach         or if i ever go Cycles 2x Teslas
21:21 jojoa1997       hi VanessaE
21:21 VanessaE        hey
21:22 Exio            2001-201[02] AMD Duron (256+128mb of ram, 80+40gb) ; 2010-2013 Intel Atom N270 (1gb ram, 160gb hdd) ; 2013-?? AMD Bulldozer 6100 BE @ 4ghz (OC'd) + GT610, 12gb ram, 1tb hdd ; 2014-?? Gov netbook, 2gb of ram, Intel Atom N2600 GMA 3600, 320gb HDD
21:22 Exio            all my computers in my whole life
21:22 Exio            the HDD of the FX is atm dead
21:22 Exio            will use my USB keys for a few weeks
21:22 Exio            then i'll get any fucking HDD if i can't get enough money for an HDD
21:22 WindHero        SSD's are so less touchy than HDD's....
21:23 Exio            SSDs are too expensive to be nice
21:23 WindHero        although they do cost...
21:23 WindHero        yeah
21:23 VanessaE        eh
21:23 jojoa1997       Calinou it is "lspci" not "lscpi"
21:23 VanessaE        buy one anyway
21:23 WindHero        wait for the magic 50% off, lol
21:23 VanessaE        they're down below 50c a gig now
21:23 WindHero        ^
21:23 jojoa1997       Exio how many gigabytes do you want on the HDD
21:24 Exio            2TB is my goal
21:24 Exio            caviar black, they're about 2000 ARS
21:24 jojoa1997       or maybe you can delete all your downloaded "legal" music
21:24 Exio            (200 USD)
21:24 WindHero        rofl
21:24 jojoa1997       Exio please
21:24 VanessaE        SSD for the stuff that needs the speed, spinning rust for mass storage.  simple enough
21:24 Exio            VanessaE, a SSD is too expensive :P
21:24 jojoa1997       you want a 2TB hdd?
21:24 WindHero        I had to downgrade to a HDD, and I hate it
21:24 nman3600        http://imgur.com/bIG3gDm
21:24 nman3600        :D
21:25 jojoa1997       why not get like a 80gb hdd or somethign if you are worried about money
21:25 WindHero        it takes 2-3 minutes until Chrome starts functioning
21:25 LemonLake       nman3600: mediacrush or gtfo
21:25 Exio            because a 80GB HDD isn't worth the money
21:25 WindHero        rofl
21:25 VanessaE        Exio: 50 bucks for 80 gigs is too much?
21:25 VanessaE        99 bucks for 240 gigs?
21:25 Exio            VanessaE, 50 bucks in the US is 125 USD here
21:25 Jordach         i prefer something that won't die in heavy use ala HDD
21:25 VanessaE        http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=SV300SA240&c=pw&hash=6223wZfrmdYahK0toynIQjRnkdsneGOlUn7bSgLEd4zwTzUWOohRG9Cs6dlT8c3NwQJGUDfBb0C4qSRGXPDtskw4PM04KzHVrhULbOMImQqGeLdZ%2BGum9wTZAeA
21:25 WindHero        you can get a 128 GB USB drive for 50 bucks....
21:26 VanessaE        (that's not the $99 one but close enough)
21:26 nman3600        You wanted it in medicrush. here: https://mediacru.sh/-a5X246x9UNA
21:26 Jordach         http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=552+GBP+in+ARS
21:26 Jordach         JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
21:26 WindHero        great wor, nman
21:26 WindHero        *work
21:27 nman3600        Thanks, WindHero, I've been working all day on these statues
21:27 Exio            Jordach, *2 is the price
21:27 jojoa1997       so Exio you would spend over 1000 USD if it is worth it when you could make a good computer with less than that?
21:27 Exio            because importing taxes and stuffs make the "cost" of getting it here a bit.. higher
21:28 Calinou         <Exio> SSDs are too expensive to be nice
21:28 Calinou         not in 2014
21:28 * Jordach       meows at VanessaE
21:28 * VanessaE      growls at Jordach
21:28 jojoa1997       Calinou that takes too long to download
21:28 Exio            jojoa1997, i bought a 6100, old gen when i bought it, i've two different ram modules (4@1600+8@1333), my HDD died because it was a cheap shit, my GPU can't sustain 90FPS in MC without lagging the system
21:28 * jojoa1997     places a dog in #mintest
21:28 Exio            and it was 1000USD
21:29 Exio            in the US the computer would have been 600 USD or so
21:29 Exio            less probably
21:29 Exio            you say omg 1000 USD!!!
21:29 jojoa1997       so you buy heavyduty stuff so you can overuse it>
21:29 jojoa1997       ?
21:29 * WindHero      shoots the dog with a fire arrow
21:29 Exio            i got money and bought the best i could with it
21:29 Exio            1000 USD for you, in tech, are a lot of shits
21:29 * GhostDoge     barks at the dog
21:29 Exio            here it is .. nothing much
21:30 jojoa1997       Exio I am using my first and only computer that i got as a present from 6 years ago and it is fast and works great
21:30 Exio            i got my first computer when i was 6
21:30 jojoa1997       knowing you, you probably would have custom built it so it would be faster
21:30 Exio            and it still works
21:30 Jordach         Exio, overkill http://www.ebuyer.com/641555-msi-gtx-titan-z-12gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-titan-z-12gd5
21:30 jojoa1997       so you have more computers!?
21:31 Exio            yes, my AMD Duron from 2001, I told you
21:31 Exio            it has 128mb of DDR1 ram atm
21:31 WindHero        HAL?
21:31 GhostDoge       HAL9000 :P
21:31 Exio            wut
21:31 Exio            ah
21:31 jojoa1997       you people
21:31 WindHero        A Space Odyssey
21:31 Exio            when someone says HAL i think "Hardware Abstraction Layer"...
21:32 WindHero        don't get me wrong, I can't stand the movie
21:32 WindHero        never once finished it all the way
21:32 WindHero        but the puns.... the puns....
21:32 Calinou         https://cdn.mediacru.sh/oPYQge1oZ5wW.png
21:32 Calinou         changed font, unbolded most things
21:32 jojoa1997       what is a good simulation game for linux?
21:32 GhostDoge       GLaDOS HAL9000's infamous daughter :D
21:32 jojoa1997       driving or flying
21:32 Calinou         now I look like an OS X users!
21:32 Calinou         jojoa1997, well, Stunt Rally ;) but any game of that kind is going to be graphics-demanding
21:33 jojoa1997       I know
21:33 jojoa1997       besides stunt rally
21:33 jojoa1997       the downloading is taking too long
21:33 WindHero        why do you want double-spawning rats anyway?
21:33 Calinou         meh, run it in background
21:33 Jordach         brb
21:33 Calinou         use wondershaper to limit bandwidth usage, to not lag in games while downloading :)
21:33 jojoa1997       Calinou i mean i want to play it in 5 minutes
21:33 Exio            jojoa1997, think about it this way, the past year, i bought my computer for 6000 ARS ~ (+1000 USD at that time), now the salaries are sightly better in ARS terms... but now you need 8000-10000 ARS for buying the "same stuff"
21:33 Exio            for a computer you buy for 600 USD
21:34 WindHero        ok
21:34 WindHero        hop the border, buy a PC for cheap, then go home
21:34 jojoa1997       and ?
21:34 jojoa1997       exactly what WindHero
21:34 Exio            M5A99X EVO (not R2.0), some hyperx 1600MHz 4gb module + 8gb 1333mhz
21:34 jojoa1997       wait no
21:34 Exio            WindHero, importing stuff means paying tax
21:34 jojoa1997       dont hop the border
21:34 Exio            that is where we get fucked up
21:34 WindHero        ik, I'm being funny
21:35 Exio            and if i could
21:35 Exio            still over 35%
21:35 WindHero        border hopping is bad in my book
21:35 Exio            because credit card taxes to foreign currency
21:35 jojoa1997       Exio at least you save money by illegally downloading stuff cough cough
21:35 WindHero        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_83KIChT_FU
21:35 WindHero        !title
21:35 MinetestBot     WindHero: Electric Light Orchestra - So Serious - YouTube
21:36 Exio            jojoa1997, i'd pay for my music if i had the posibility, but sending USDs to other countries here is a pain
21:36 Calinou         small update, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/dj5CqTOY9w7e.png
21:37 jojoa1997       sure
21:37 Exio            if i could go to my city, send 500 ARS to an account, and buy music with it, i'd have paid for a lot of things
21:37 jojoa1997       ok how much is a song usually worth in ARS
21:37 Exio            "a song"
21:37 jojoa1997       or album
21:37 jojoa1997       whatever
21:38 Exio            iirc an album offline is about 400-500 ARS
21:38 Exio            (at least)
21:38 jojoa1997       ok so
21:38 Exio            http://1-million-dollar-blog.com/average-monthly-salary-for-72-countries-in-the-world/
21:39 WindHero        I'm gonna make a bot
21:39 Exio            40 	Argentina 	1,108
21:39 Exio            4 	United States 	3,263
21:39 jojoa1997       Exio it kinda seems you are better off than me in owning stuff
21:39 WindHero        so that whenever a question is asked in a chat
21:39 WindHero        it'll shout "42"
21:39 Exio            !c 3263/1108
21:39 MinetestBot      2.9449458483754514
21:39 Exio            3x
21:39 jojoa1997       Exio you forget all the big wigs that have tons of money
21:40 Exio            argentina isn't a good moment economically atm
21:40 Exio            holdouts and shits
21:40 Exio            the currency is worth less every day; the inflation is quite high
21:41 Exio            our inflation is at about 4% per month atm iirc
21:41 Jordach         there
21:41 Jordach         did *not* want a bug to go through that side vent
21:43 WindHero        My dream world has been shattered: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Er5wqc-OzKj1.png
21:43 Exio            jojoa1997, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulture_fund#Argentina
21:46 jojoa1997       poor WindHero
21:46 WindHero        lol
21:46 jojoa1997       Exio just nvm you dont understand
21:46 WindHero        I have about 3 different replies I could give
21:46 Jordach         things to do in my lifetime: Win the Saxxy Awards
21:46 Exio            jojoa1997, wut?
21:47 Exio            explain then?
21:47 jojoa1997       nah
21:47 jojoa1997       im gonna go play Teeworlds
21:47 Jordach         <3 TF2
21:48 nman3600        I'm off the the night, CYA!
21:49 Exio            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_debt_restructuring this says what have been happening
21:49 WindHero        <3 Cave Story
21:50 Jordach         wtf
21:50 Jordach         weapon worth £42.67 on the Steam Market
21:51 LemonLake       Jordach: yup
21:52 WindHero        LemonLake, watch any anime lately?
21:52 GhostDoge       <3 Red Eclipse
21:52 LemonLake       WindHero: i had a break after Tamako Market, and now I'm watching Air
21:53 WindHero        how is it?
21:53 LemonLake       so far? interesting
21:53 LemonLake       it's really got the clannad feel to it (well duh, made by the same dudes)
21:53 WindHero        hmm
21:53 LemonLake       and potato is just so damn cute
21:54 WindHero        I'm trying to find more comedic anime right now with some action since the last couple had some real downers
21:54 WindHero        which led me to start the original Slayers
21:55 WindHero        getting what I was looking for, although the animation IS 90's quality...
21:59 LemonLake       WindHero: http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/13/57196.jpg
21:59 LemonLake       piko piko
21:59 WindHero        kawaii~
21:59 WindHero        I just looked up Air on myanimelist
21:59 WindHero        it's precisely ranked #100 @.@
21:59 LemonLake       really??
21:59 WindHero        atm, anyway
21:59 LemonLake       #1115
21:59 LemonLake       100 popularity
22:00 WindHero        oh, lol
22:00 WindHero        :P
22:00 LemonLake       the only issue is the effort to navigating episodes
22:00 LemonLake       i would like to click once, not click three times
22:00 LemonLake       the site i'm watching it on has english dubs too, and when i click 'next episode' it takes me to the dubbed version each time >.<
22:00 WindHero        which site would that be?
22:01 LemonLake       animewaffles
22:01 WindHero        hmm
22:01 LemonLake       usually i'd watch on animebox but they didn't have it strangely :/
22:01 WindHero        I just have some decent antivirus
22:01 WindHero        and use either nwanime or chia-anime
22:01 LemonLake       antivirus?
22:01 WindHero        the latter lets you download in mp4, so at least I can watch it from a mobile device
22:02 WindHero        I don't know if those sites have any malicious stuff on them
22:02 LemonLake       nah man, it's all about html5 players these days :P
22:02 WindHero        so I make sure I have strong enough antivirus applications so I don't pick anything up
22:02 WindHero        when you watch it on a pc, sure
22:03 LemonLake       sane mobile devices support html5 players
22:03 WindHero        I prefer watching from an iPod because I can do it when I should be asleep ;)
22:03 LemonLake       if you're on ios, ditch safari
22:03 LemonLake       that web browser is shit
22:03 WindHero        long ago
22:03 WindHero        trust me :P
22:04 WindHero        (whenever I say that phrase, I think of the ending song for Durarara!!)
22:05 WindHero        alright, gtg now
22:05 WindHero        sayonara!
22:05 LemonLake       sayounara!
22:16 LemonLake       Feels good to finally be getting SOME work done on my website
22:32 LemonLake       TIL pressing ESC while dragging a window cancels the move
22:33 VanessaE        oh that's handy
22:33 VanessaE        works in xfce also.
22:33 LemonLake       oh that's good
22:34 LemonLake       has anyone tested it on any other linuxes?
22:34 LemonLake       i only have winfk right now
22:34 SylvieLorxu     LemonLake: Works on KDE
22:51 * Jordach       feels the need to go deeper
22:54 Jordach         very much deeper
22:55 LemonLake       http://lemonlake.nuclearstorm.net/#minetest
22:55 LemonLake       Factory information > crafting recipes
22:55 LemonLake       mate some good progress today
22:56 LemonLake       s/mate/made/
22:58 VanessaE        LemonLake: speaking of which, nore's about to start a big rewrite of the flowing logic in pipeworks' metal pipes.  heads-up.
22:58 LemonLake       sounds fun!
22:58 LemonLake       i might re-implement them when i feel more motivated
22:58 VanessaE        you'll probably want to be ready to merge his changes when they're completed.
22:59 LemonLake       i had to remove pipes for now because i reaally badly failed
22:59 LemonLake       so i'll try again when that's been rewritten
22:59 VanessaE        ok
23:01 Jordach         https://cdn.mediacru.sh/y7zI2j0pQnOs.png :D
23:01 Jordach         WE NEED TO GO DEEPER
23:02 LemonLake       oh my
23:02 LemonLake       oh my...
23:03 LemonLake       Jordach: are...are you ok?
23:03 Jordach         LemonLake, considering going down to Windows 3.1 via VMware older installs
23:03 Jordach         which is running in 95, which is in 98, and so forth
23:04 LemonLake       you umm...
23:04 LemonLake       u wot
23:04 VanessaE        you're insane.
23:05 LemonLake       Jordach: can you send me that video from yesterday again?
23:05 Jordach         LemonLake, eh?
23:05 Jordach         wat video
23:05 LemonLake       the pingu one
23:05 Jordach         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8RbGhWkNOM
23:05 LemonLake       this is good day
23:06 LemonLake       i didn't get to fully watch it
23:06 Jordach         you're not the only one who needed air
23:06 Jordach         https://cdn.mediacru.sh/MJCqsfvbq3yr.png
23:18 LemonLake       okay
23:18 LemonLake       im just done
23:18 LemonLake       night is good
23:45 Jordach         tl;dr i've been doing water wrong my entire blender life
23:52 Jordach         and i've been doing it righty