Time Nick Message 00:02 Jordach Blender Armature Porn: http://vimeo.com/89889901 [SFW] 00:12 Eivel nice 00:13 Eivel okay, time for me to go to sleep. Thanks for help, Jordach. 00:57 fling Is not unified_inventory working with minetest_game? 00:58 fling or do I need to install it on the client and not on the servrer? 00:59 VanessaE all mods are server-side. 01:00 VanessaE what doesn't work about it? 01:00 VanessaE I use it on a couple of my servers without any issue 01:00 VanessaE (of course I use it as part of my own game, which was based on an older minetest_game) 01:12 fling VanessaE: I have installed minetest_game with removed creative and installed a single unified_inventory mod on the server 01:12 fling VanessaE: I see the regular inventory on the client 01:12 fling in server log -> Unified Inventory. inventory size: 193 01:12 VanessaE did you enable the new mod? 01:12 fling yes 01:13 VanessaE how did you install the mod exactly? 01:13 fling the same way I installed all other mods 01:13 fling with gentoo portage ebuild ;P 01:13 VanessaE which would be....? 01:14 fling http://bpaste.net/show/496187/ 01:15 VanessaE minetest 0.4.4?? 01:15 fling yes it depends on minetest-0.4.4 or newer 01:16 VanessaE unified inventory won't work on anything older than 0.4.9 01:16 fling ok, fixing 01:18 VanessaE in fact, I'm pretty sure some features need 0.4.10 01:18 VanessaE such as waypoints 01:18 fling I'm using 0.4.10-10-g24a631e-dirty 01:18 VanessaE that's certainly new enough 01:19 VanessaE where'd you get UI from? 01:19 fling umm? 01:19 VanessaE Unified Inventory? 01:19 VanessaE where'd you fetch it from? 01:20 fling I don't get 01:20 VanessaE well you installed it 01:20 VanessaE you must have got it from somewhere :P 01:20 fling ohhh 01:21 fling ebuild is downloading it from github using git 01:21 fling and installing the latest master 01:21 fling anyway I even tried to install by hand from zip file 01:21 fling and to copy from technic game 01:21 VanessaE oh yeah 01:21 fling still nothing :> 01:21 fling and notice I see it loaded in server log 01:22 VanessaE have you tried it with an older copy of minetest_game? 01:22 VanessaE say from about 2-3 weeks ago? 01:22 fling I have not, will try… 01:22 fling I want to first try upgrading clients :> 01:23 fling I'm about to create snapshot packages of everything after I get it working 01:23 fling I'm currently packaging master head things 01:26 fling client upgrade does not help hmm hmmm 01:34 fling how to get 0.4.10-25 or 0.4.10-24 from git? 01:34 fling where are these sub-versions stored? 01:35 fling VanessaE: I don't see unified_inventory with 0.4.10 :| 01:38 VanessaE -25? 01:38 VanessaE are you sure you're even running Minetest? 01:38 VanessaE that sounds like a Freeminer version number 01:39 Exio don't tell you're using freeminer fling 01:39 Exio DON'T 01:39 VanessaE where are you getting "minetest" from? 01:39 * Exio takes the katana and looks at fling 01:41 * VanessaE looks at fling 01:41 * shadowzone looks at fling since everyone else is 01:42 Exio fling, you're trapped, TALK NOW! 01:42 shadowzone O.O 01:42 shadowzone Poor fling. 01:42 Exio 3 vs 1 01:42 fling I'm not using freeminer 01:42 Exio ok 01:42 * Exio hugs fling and throws the katana away 01:43 fling get a minetest client from git master head and look at the left top corner 01:43 VanessaE fling: thank goodness. however, -25 and so on is not part of any version number in minetest. 01:43 fling VanessaE: there are version number ^ 01:43 VanessaE no sir. they are not. 01:43 VanessaE it's either 0.4.10 or it'll have a git commit ID on iy 01:43 VanessaE it* 01:44 VanessaE mine has a -26- in it for example, but that's not a version identifier 01:45 fling http://mirror.dno.so/incoming/screenshots/minetest/2014.07.25-08%3a43%3a46.807442775.png 01:45 fling left top corner ^ 01:45 VanessaE not sure what the significance is of the number but ignore it. 01:45 VanessaE just git pull if you're out of date. 01:45 fling I just want to package older versions too (between 0.4.10 and head) 01:46 VanessaE don't. 01:46 VanessaE anything older than 0.4.10 is outdated. 01:46 shadowzone Word up VanessaE! 01:46 fling newer than 0.4.10 and older than head 01:46 VanessaE oh derp 01:46 VanessaE well for that you'll have to just git checkout the commits you want to base your releases on 01:47 fling but I don't want commits since I see nice version numbers here 01:47 VanessaE those aren't version numbers. 01:47 fling 0.4.10-25 for example 01:47 fling anyway I like these numbers :D 01:47 fling they are revisions or something 01:48 VanessaE they might be build numbers specific to your box 01:48 fling doh I need to investigate 01:48 VanessaE but they aren't version numbers. 01:48 fling ok so unified_invertory is not working :< 01:49 VanessaE that part you've got me lost on. except to try an older version of minetest_game 01:49 VanessaE also, try dreambuilder_game - unified inventory is used in there and it works fine. 01:49 fling and it works just fine as a part of technic game! 01:50 VanessaE weird. 01:50 fling might please someone try to confirm it is not just working with minetest game? 01:50 VanessaE in dreambuilder, I merely copied it into place. simple as that. 01:50 fling I want someone to install minetest game with creative removed and install this single mod 01:50 shadowzone It works with mine. 01:51 VanessaE but it's based on an older version of minetest_game 01:51 VanessaE (pre-minetest_next) 01:51 fling shadowzone: are you using latest? what mods are installed? 01:51 fling what if I don't understand something? 01:52 fling how is unified_inventory working? 01:52 shadowzone yes latestgit, unified iventory along with piepworks,moreblocks and homedecor. 01:52 fling will I just see craft guide and/or other fancy things after I just install and enable it? 01:52 shadowzone The last 3 listed are for fin. 01:52 shadowzone Other fancy things if you do it right. 01:53 VanessaE fling: if installed and enabled, you will see a whole different inventory from the beginning 01:53 fling what fancy things? 01:54 * fling is disabling to compare… 01:54 shadowzone fling: Just go get it and you'll see it's hard to explain. 01:54 fling shadowzone: the problem is I have it and I don't see it 01:55 fling server says -> Unified Inventory. inventory size: 196 01:55 fling but nothing new in the inventory on client 01:55 shadowzone Here take a screenshot of it and send the screenshot to me I've used unified inventory. 01:58 fling shadowzone: http://mirror.dno.so/incoming/screenshots/minetest/2014.07.25-08%3a57%3a00.746855171.png 01:58 shadowzone Hmm. 01:59 shadowzone I wonder why it ain't working. 02:00 VanessaE doesn't make any sense at all.. 02:00 fling try installing minetest, minetest_game, unified_inventory from latest head and confirm it is working/non-working please :P 02:00 fling without any other mods! 02:00 shadowzone I got to go. 02:01 VanessaE I still say try it with an older minetest_game 02:01 VanessaE go back say 2 or so weeks, before minetest_next was merged 02:01 fling VanessaE: I have installed 0.4.10 and it does not help 02:02 VanessaE not the engine. 02:02 VanessaE I mean minetest_game. 02:02 fling I'm talking about minetest_game 02:02 VanessaE minetest_game does not have a version number. 02:02 fling https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/tags 02:02 VanessaE huh. well I guess they do :P 02:02 VanessaE still, go a little older. 02:03 fling doing 02:10 fling VanessaE: yay! working with 0.4.9 :> 02:11 VanessaE you mean minetest_game 02:11 fling yes 02:11 VanessaE ok that answers that much 02:11 fling where to bugreport? minetes_game or unified_inventory? or both? :D 02:11 VanessaE file a bug against unified inventory 02:11 Exio https://gist.github.com/quchen/5280339 hahahaha 02:11 Exio !title 02:11 MinetestBot AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'strip' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/title.py", line 13, in title) 02:11 Exio . 02:14 Miner_48er troubleshooting steps for lag increasing over time? 02:15 fling VanessaE: thanks for help :P 02:15 VanessaE at least we got to the bottom of it. 02:16 VanessaE sorta :) 02:16 fling btw there are missing textures "technic_template_replacer.png" and "technic_template_tool.png" 02:18 Exio did anyone check that gist? 02:18 Vazon VanessaE: Do you have any suggestions to fix my lag problem, the cpu and network is fine, the lag continues the increase over a short period of time and we have removed mesecons and technic ( the 2 big mods the server runs) 02:19 VanessaE Vazon: no, I have no idea either :-/ 02:20 Vazon mhmmmm 02:20 VanessaE except that my Vanilla and FFA servers have been plagued by lag too lately 02:20 VanessaE ever since the switch to minetest_next 02:20 VanessaE but theirs is a high-CPU-usage issue 02:21 VanessaE I may roll them back to an older version soon 02:21 Vazon Minetest is laggy altogether even with no mods installed, i had no problems back in 0.4.8 02:21 VanessaE 0.4.10-git is really fast now 02:21 VanessaE but the game content is getting slow for some reason 02:21 fling Vazon: latest is fast here 02:22 Vazon mhmmmm 02:26 Zeno` well, I have a suspicion as to why the game content is getting slow 02:27 VanessaE ? 02:27 Zeno` it's because of the loops in l_get_data() and l_set_data() and related voxel manip and noise functions (at the Lua API level they are converted to/from C arrays to Lua tables, which requires a pretty slow loop) 02:28 VanessaE explain?> 02:28 Zeno` I'm writing a feature request now that might explain it better :) 02:30 Zeno` But in a nutshell, although the voxel manip functions are fast, they are nowhere near as fast as working with raw data. Because the internal data has to be converted to a Lua table this requires a loop, so very fast functions like memcpy() (which on x86 at least uses a CPU intrinsic function/microcode and therefore blazingly fast compared to a loop) 02:32 Zeno` With most (all?) of the mapgen stuff now in Lua we, IMO, need some extra functions so that raw data can be accessed and passed to C/C++ from Lua 02:33 Zeno` 4 or 5 new functions and it would be possible to write speed critical code in C or C++ called from Lua. As it is at the moment though, any C "extension" needs to work with Lua tables and the Lua stack which is *slow* (compared to plain old data) 02:46 Zeno` these are both O(n): http://codepad.org/cpUzhjUP and http://codepad.org/w5D341HN. The first executes in 0.018s, the second in .006s although they do the same thing. The first is more like what has to be done to get data to/from Lua 02:47 Zeno` It doesn't make much difference in singleplayer (well, it's noticeable for me at least but anyway) but as soon as you have 10-20 players and lots of mapgen going on those small differences add up 03:35 fling How to import schematics from minecraft? 03:36 fling the problem is they may contain unknown blocks 04:31 ShadowNinja fling: sfan5 wrote a converter for MCEdit schematics. 06:32 fling Is not 3d_armor working with unified_inventory? 06:33 fling looks like it is working… 06:39 RealBadAngel fling UI has simple api so mods like 3d armor can be easily added 06:40 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/blob/master/waypoints.lua#L21 06:40 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/blob/master/waypoints.lua#L111 06:40 fling great 06:40 RealBadAngel thats all whats needed for a mod to add itself to UI 06:41 RealBadAngel just register the page and a button 06:46 fling does not minetest need .blend files? but .x instead? 06:46 RealBadAngel .x models are used 06:50 RealBadAngel fling, also you may find this interesting: https://code.google.com/p/tubras/wiki/irrb 06:59 fling RealBadAngel: looks good 07:14 fling Why are there six slots for armor in 3d_armor mod? 07:15 fling 1. helmet; 2. chestplate; 3. leggings; 4. boots; 5. shield 07:15 fling what is the sixth item? :P 07:17 * fling just broke one of old bones blocks 07:17 fling why can't I break bones bloks anymore? both old and fresh 07:26 fling how much threads are used by server by the default? 07:39 sfan5 meow 07:39 sfan5 hi everyone 07:40 sfan5 fling: 1 server thread (you can't change that), emerge threads 07:40 sfan5 IIRC 07:40 fling ohh 07:40 fling what are emerge threads doing? 07:40 sfan5 reading the world from disk 07:41 fling Why are my bones unbreakable? :P 07:41 sfan5 you can only break them if you own them 07:41 sfan5 if you own them and can't break them it's a bug 07:42 fling connect mt0.dno.so please 07:48 sfan5 ok 08:02 sfan5 fling: http://meow.minetest.net/nobones.tar.gz 08:03 fling thanks 08:04 fling no repo? 08:04 fling description/license? 08:06 sfan5 license: same as original bones mod 08:06 sfan5 no repo 08:51 sfan5 MinetestBot! 08:51 MinetestBot sfan5! 08:52 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Don't include cmake_config_githash.h into files that don't need it 5357a17 2014-07-25T10:48:03+02:00 http://git.io/AS5_nA 09:00 sfan5 !op 09:00 sfan5 !mute 09:00 sfan5 lol 09:00 sfan5 just as I thought 09:00 sfan5 !unmute 09:01 sfan5 !deop 09:03 raffahacks0 trying to use irc from my ereader! 09:03 sfan5 pong 09:03 raffahacks0 lol quite buggy 09:04 ThatGraemeGuy mmm 09:04 raffahacks0 using experimental browser on kobo aura 09:05 Calinou ah, webchat 09:05 Calinou I doubt there are specific IRC clients for an e-reader :P 09:05 ThatGraemeGuy http://pastebin.com/Nrx9YQCS, this is from minetest_game, what is the purpose of defining the ore twice with the same height range but different distribution parameters? 09:06 sfan5 ThatGraemeGuy: to have different sizes of ore veins appear 09:06 ThatGraemeGuy in the same height range 09:07 Calinou large ore patches + small ore patches 09:07 Calinou for more diversity 09:07 ThatGraemeGuy ok 09:07 Calinou Carbone even has huge ore patches for coal and iron :D 09:07 sfan5 and diamond 09:07 ThatGraemeGuy so when a chunk is generated it picks one of those randomly? 09:08 sfan5 zero, one of them or even both 09:08 sfan5 more than one ore type can be in 1 chunk 09:08 ThatGraemeGuy yes of course 09:08 ThatGraemeGuy but the code i pasted is for the same ore 09:09 sfan5 ore type = ore definition 09:09 Calinou I've been planning to make a Minecraft-like game, but not sure how to do it 09:10 Calinou make it a subset of Carbone using settings? or make it an entirely different game? 09:10 Calinou the latter sounds easier, but more tedious to maintain 09:10 ThatGraemeGuy ok, so its normal to have 2 different definitions for an ore at the same height range 09:10 ThatGraemeGuy that's what threw me 09:10 ThatGraemeGuy thanks 09:16 nman3600 Hiya 09:16 nman3600 If you have a flag suggestion for my mod either Query me or just say the flag name and mention me. 09:33 markv Hey nman3600! 09:33 nman3600 markv!!!!!!! 09:33 nman3600 I've missed ya. 09:33 markv me too :( 10:06 markv PowerKiller, No _OFF nicks please 10:10 PowerKiller 'k 10:12 fling markv: what is wrong with _OFF ? 10:12 sfan5 fling: http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html 10:12 markv As long as it's not automatic, it's fine 10:13 markv ... 10:13 markv That is exactly what's wrong with _OFF 10:14 sfan5 As long as it's not automatic, it's fine 10:14 sfan5 even non-automatic is annoying 10:14 markv fling, Your point is invalid 10:14 markv Wait 10:14 * markv acknowledges fling != sfan5 10:15 fling ok 10:15 * sfan5 meows at fling 10:15 fling I have auto away enabled 10:15 markv Same 10:15 markv Not on my client though 10:15 fling but it is just using '/away …' without changing my nickname :> 10:15 sfan5 fling: auto-away is ok, but not writing messages into the... yeah 10:16 fling and listening to is stupid too 10:16 * fling is now listening to Private.avi 10:16 markv Also i have custom CTCP replies enables 10:16 fling whoops 10:16 markv Try WTF VERSION BLARG 10:16 sfan5 >.avi 10:16 markv WIll add that one 10:17 fling add where? 10:17 sfan5 znc probably 10:17 markv Le done 10:17 markv Yup, ZNC 10:18 markv client is a lot faster tho... 10:18 markv Meow le done 10:19 fling Are you guys using 'moreores' ? 10:19 fling or ony other mod adding custom ores? 10:20 markv Personally, I still use the old moreores 10:20 * markv remembers he doesn't actually play minetest 10:20 markv fling, Gloopores may be worth a try 10:20 sfan5 gloopores is outdated 10:21 markv idk any more 10:21 fling so moreores is better one right? 10:21 sfan5 fling: I use birthstones (with diamond disabled because it's already in default) on Meowtest https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3663 10:21 Calinou moreores is also obsolete 10:21 markv imo, yes 10:21 sfan5 ^ 10:21 Calinou Carbone has most of More Ores 10:21 fling what about Better HUD? -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6342 10:22 fling is it good if I want to add hunger? 10:23 fling Calinou: do you mean carbone game? 10:24 Calinou yes 10:26 fling is it possible to add translations everywhere? 10:27 Calinou translations of mods are purely server-side 10:27 Calinou so they're discouraged for multiplayer 10:27 fling What about a huge locale database for minetest? 10:27 fling so mods will use nls strings from the database 10:27 sfan5 something like that is a TODO 10:27 Calinou still server-side. 10:28 fling sfan5: I can translate to 100% Russian, 80% Ukrainian, 10% Korean :D 10:28 fling 안녕 10:29 sfan5 o/ PenguinDad 10:29 fling PenguinDad: Hello. 10:30 PenguinDad hey sfan5 and fling 10:31 sfan5 fling: if our translation interface were online you could help translating core stuff 10:33 PenguinDad meow :3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38zCjoBxT3I 10:34 fling sfan5: ping me :D 10:35 sfan5 omg so cut3 PenguinDad 10:36 sfan5 wtf is the dog doing 10:38 PenguinDad I dunno what the shibe is doing 10:38 sfan5 !tell Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38zCjoBxT3I 10:38 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around 10:38 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 10:39 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 11:03 Calinou https://gitorious.org/calinou/craftbone → Initial commit! Based on Carbone, provides gameplay to Minecraft (or at least tries to). Has similar textures (not the same, but they use the similar colours).. 11:03 Calinou currently, inventory 2 × 2 crafting looks broken 11:18 markv Hello everybody! 12:59 * PenguinDad meows at sfan5__ 12:59 sfan5__ no, no 12:59 sfan5__ meow at sfan5__ 12:59 sfan5__ sfan5* 12:59 * PenguinDad meows at sfan5 12:59 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 13:27 Jordach sfan5, 2:03 wtf is that!!? 13:28 sfan5 hm? 13:29 PenguinDad Jordach: that's a shibe 13:30 sfan5 !doge 13:30 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000036 BTC 13:30 sfan5 !doge 13:30 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/QIqDXZw.gif 13:30 sfan5 ^ Jordach 13:31 sfan5 !doge 13:31 MinetestBot http://25.media.tumblr.com/282b439e00e13be63e932425388afa7d/tumblr_muopr4oEjG1qbhxqdo1_1280.jpg 13:31 sfan5 ^ or that one 13:32 shadowzone Ok I got a question. 13:32 sfan5 ask 13:33 shadowzone What does server_dedicated = true/false mean? 13:33 sfan5 uh 13:33 sfan5 hm 13:35 sfan5 shadowzone: if adds a "Dedicated" flag on the serverlist 13:35 sfan5 thats everything 13:35 shadowzone Ok thank you. 13:36 shadowzone Hi WidDos. 13:36 shadowzone This is where all the minetest pros hang out. 13:36 WidDos Hey 13:37 WidDos Ok. 13:37 WidDos Whoa nate was hanging out here? 13:37 shadowzone Yep. 13:37 shadowzone I just decided to start joining as a regular. 13:38 sfan5 18<shadowzone18> This is where all the minetest pros hang out. 13:38 sfan5 not really 13:38 sfan5 this is the main minetest channel 13:38 shadowzone Ok gotcha. 13:39 * WidDos Call this minetest channel Server chat freee 13:39 WidDos Yeah no more hearing Back to back fights XD 13:40 PenguinDad http://i.imgur.com/0kQ2yMM.gif xD 13:42 sfan5 PenguinDad: "three little dickletts" xD 13:42 shadowzone Ok I don't play pokemon so I am not getting this. 13:42 WidDos When does it end XD 13:42 WidDos I am at right now 60 13:43 shadowzone WidDos I'm at 90. 13:43 shadowzone "date rapist" XD 13:43 WidDos Dang my internet stop and reset it :X 13:44 shadowzone it goes to 100. 13:44 shadowzone around there 13:46 WidDos Well done Penguin 13:47 shadowzone PenguinDad send some more when you get a chance. 13:47 WidDos Yeah how are you here and the other IRC? 13:47 sfan5 !doge 13:47 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000035 BTC 13:47 sfan5 !doge 13:47 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000035 BTC 13:47 sfan5 !doge 13:47 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/NOIyL1K.jpg 13:47 sfan5 ^ WidDos have that 13:47 VanessaE no love for PND? :( 13:47 WidDos XD 13:48 shadowzone VanessaE what is PND? 13:48 VanessaE shadowzone: Pandacoin (PND is the symbol). 13:48 shadowzone Oh. 13:48 VanessaE sort of a sister coin to doge 13:48 WidDos The cake is so A Lie XD lol 13:48 VanessaE also a competitor at the same time :) 13:48 PenguinDad !pnf 13:48 PenguinDad !pnd 13:49 shadowzone I just realized there are dogs in that pic. 13:49 sfan5 VanessaE: pull requests are welcome 13:49 sfan5 !doge 13:49 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000036 BTC 13:49 sfan5 !doge 13:49 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000036 BTC 13:49 sfan5 !doge 13:49 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000036 BTC 13:49 sfan5 !doge 13:49 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000036 BTC 13:49 sfan5 godmanit 13:49 sfan5 goddamnit* 13:49 sfan5 !doge 13:49 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/YRdsSHn.jpg 13:49 VanessaE sfan5: translation: "go fuck yourself" ? ;-) 13:49 * shadowzone giggles 13:49 sfan5 VanessaE: nah 13:50 shadowzone I love these pics. 13:50 sfan5 VanessaE: pull requests are really welcome 13:50 * shadowzone fist bumps MinetestBot 13:50 sfan5 shadowzone: heres the whole set of links: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/shortutils.py#L49-79 13:51 WidDos How is that possbie? how?? you can't have a Animated .jpg 13:51 VanessaE you can scrape it from coinmarketcap. :-) I wouldn't know how to add such a feature anyway 13:51 VanessaE WidDos: not a real jpg 13:51 sfan5 WidDos: it's a renamed .gif, the browser detects that 13:51 VanessaE probably a misnamed gif 13:51 shadowzone More like a Vine. 13:52 VanessaE ninja'd. 13:52 shadowzone VanessaE who got ninja'd? 13:52 VanessaE me :P 13:52 shadowzone Oh. 13:52 sfan5 VanessaE: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/shortutils.py#L81 13:53 shadowzone https://pp.vk.me/c607929/v607929263/624e/K6NMxz0Cj7U.jpg 13:53 PenguinDad lol http://imgur.com/gallery/SmYdZsJ 13:53 shadowzone That is brilliant. 13:54 sfan5 !tell Jordach 18<PenguinDad18> http://i.imgur.com/0kQ2yMM.gif xD 13:54 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around 13:54 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 13:54 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 13:55 swilde *: Hi, it seems that with the latest release objects lying around on the map (like all the Blocks after using TNT, or stuff dropped with 'Q') disappear after some time. Is that intentional? If so, is there a way to disable this "feature"? I want items to stay where they are until someone picks them up... 13:55 PenguinDad sfan5: why do you color quotes? 13:55 VanessaE swilde: no you don't want that, but yes you can change the default setting. 13:55 VanessaE don't recall the setting though. 13:55 WidDos If items was to stay you will have major lag on servers 13:56 sfan5 PenguinDad: because color is awesome:3 13:56 sfan5 !rainbow PenguinDad PenguinDad PenguinDad 13:56 MinetestBot 4P4e4n7g7u7i8n8D8a3d3 3P12e12n12g6u6i6n13D13a13d4 4P4e7n7g7u8i8n8D3a3d3 13:56 WidDos !red This is red 13:56 WidDos What why it didn't work 13:57 swilde VanessaE: Well it used to be that way on our server, and we had no trouble with it... 13:57 shadowzone !rainbow 13:57 MinetestBot 4R4a4i7n7b7o8w What? 13:57 shadowzone Lol. 13:57 PenguinDad 05I 04h07a08v03e 09t10o 11a02g12r06e13e 05t04h07a08t 03c09o10l11o02r12s 06a13r05e 04a07w08e03s09o10m11e02. 13:57 shadowzone !rainbow Peanut butter vs jelly THE WINNER IS! 13:57 MinetestBot 4P4e4a7n7u7t8 8b8u3t3t3e12r12 12v6s6 6j13e13l13l4y4 4T7H7E7 8W8I8N3N3E3R12 12I12S6! 13:57 * swilde has skimmed through the whole minetest.conf.example and not found a setting that seems to match the problem. 13:57 shadowzone Ok somebody slaps me I need it. 13:57 swilde Any hints what to search for? 13:58 PenguinDad 12B03o08t06h 11w10i07n09! 13:58 shadowzone PEANUT BUTTER WINS WITH 10 TO 5! 13:58 sfan5 WidDos: !rainbow is a MinetestBot command 13:58 WidDos !rainbow k 13:58 MinetestBot 4k 13:59 sfan5 swilde: afk RealBadAngel 13:59 sfan5 ask* 13:59 VanessaE swilde: item_entity_ttl = 900 14:00 VanessaE set it to -1 to disable it. 14:00 swilde sfan5: ? RealBadAngel does not sound like an configuration option... ;-) Did he write a mod to bring the old behaviour back? 14:00 VanessaE put that in your minetest.conf 14:00 markv hi everyone! 14:00 swilde VanessaE: Oh, thanks! 14:00 markv !seen OldCoder 14:00 MinetestBot markv: oldcoder was last seen at 2014-07-21 13:37:42 UTC on ##minetestbot 14:00 * shadowzone goes off to code yet another mod 14:00 sfan5 swilde: RealBadAngel is a person who should know which setting it is 14:00 swilde VanessaE: I'll give it a try! 14:00 shadowzone Don't ask me what cause that will be determined as I make the textures. 14:00 VanessaE good luck 14:00 RealBadAngel but others also do know ;) 14:01 VanessaE beat ya to it, RealBadAngel :) 14:01 swilde sfan5: thanks, seems VanessaE knows it, too... ;-) 14:02 WidDos Why is the Minetest lua main thing called init? 14:02 shadowzone init.lua? 14:02 WidDos Yeah 14:02 sfan5 what else would you call it? 14:02 shadowzone code.lua 14:02 shadowzone ? 14:02 sfan5 nah 14:02 sfan5 that sounds bad 14:03 PenguinDad main.lua like in Cpp :P 14:03 * shadowzone opens gimp 14:05 WidDos I would have the init called mtmain.lua 14:06 WidDos That I doing for most of my mods. have the init and do dofile to the mtmain 14:06 * shadowzone starts on her textures 14:07 shadowzone WidDos you've made mod? 14:07 WidDos Yes. lots but I am going finish up on later today 14:07 shadowzone Oh. 14:07 PenguinDad the best item in minetest is "unknown 14:08 PenguinDad +" 14:08 WidDos Yeah I am trying to fix a problem with my color glass but Idk what it mean by the error 14:09 twoelk in it init initialises what's in it 14:10 Exio WidDos, "mtmain" is a bit minetest-centered 14:11 Exio would you call it "fmmain" in freeminer? 14:11 WidDos Oh Idk know that 14:12 * shadowzone sighs 14:12 * shadowzone goes off to get some coffee before starting on the coding 14:14 WidDos Is there a way I can make a way you can mine something but it will not drop that item unless used right tool? 14:14 swilde VanessaE: seems to work, tank you for your kind help! 14:14 shadowzone WidDos like minecraft? 14:14 VanessaE no prob 14:15 twoelk like not being able to mine iron with wood tools? 14:15 WidDos Yeah. but I am not thinking doing minecraft. I was thinking have like that since the item I am making is a Hellore. only found in lava areas 14:15 shadowzone I think thats what he is talking about. 14:16 WidDos Yeah but only way get the Hell ore is not use something wreak. so you need a Mese Pickaxe or Diamond 14:16 shadowzone hmm that may be possible. 14:16 shadowzone like in minecraft you can get iron with wood and diamond without steel. 14:16 twoelk might want to study obsidian 14:17 WidDos Since... Wood can burn up Stone can Break under heat after time Iron starts to melt And as for Mese unknown. 14:17 PenguinDad since when are there igps directly on the mainboard? 14:17 WidDos What is mese anyway? like I never figure out how did it came up? 14:18 shadowzone WidDos I think it was added for fun. 14:18 shadowzone Just a extra node that they never really had. 14:18 PenguinDad WidDos: http://wiki.minetest.net/Mese#History 14:18 WidDos Thanks Penguin 14:19 VanessaE WidDos: it was added so that there would be *something* to dig for 14:19 WidDos Mese actually means "msn messenger" in Finland and is used as a silly word (it sounds silly) in the ohjelmointiputka programming community. Additionally it is thought that the glasses of the emoticons 8) and 8D are "mese glasses". 14:19 WidDos I figure it was something MSN rated 14:22 WidDos I have a whole new game idea! after reading about Mese! No given out what it is. you got wait until it story written out 14:22 shadowzone 8D 14:23 WidDos 8D yeah I guess I can tell you it title if you guys wish to know 14:23 * shadowzone cracks her back 14:23 shadowzone Tell meh. 14:24 PenguinDad VanessaE: panda http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Wn-eJddJmuA/UOL06wXoXMI/AAAAAAAABcg/11XoK7fXG6M/s640/Red+Panda.jpg 14:24 WidDos Ok. it called the Last MESE. I plan make everything black and white but for the mese. But Idk how going do sky color and the sun and moon though 14:24 VanessaE PenguinDad: er... 14:24 shadowzone lmfao. 14:24 shadowzone I love his face. 14:25 WidDos Hey VanessaE do you know how change the sky color? 14:25 VanessaE use a skybox 14:25 shadowzone WidDos yeah wear sunglasses. 14:26 twoelk WilDos: try section **Maximum level** in lua_api.txt 14:26 WidDos How do I do the skybox? since I remember since I remember seeing a game mode have Purple sky 14:26 shadowzone WidDos I think we have a game that does that, 14:26 shadowzone *. 14:26 VanessaE WidDos: no idea, but check the moontest game/mod 14:26 shadowzone stupid keyboard. 14:27 VanessaE it uses a nice skybox 14:27 WidDos Ok. and as for the moon and sun? 14:27 VanessaE (note to self: add one for dreambuilder soon) 14:27 * shadowzone hansd VanessaE a note. 14:27 shadowzone "add one for dreambuider soon. 14:28 WidDos Yeah I maybe will do nolight in the mapgen flag list and just use lots of torches as lighing 14:28 WidDos *lighting 14:28 VanessaE :P 14:28 WidDos Well it suppose be a B/W feel the game XD 14:32 * WidDos Get a feeling TFG (TheFriendlyGirl) is making her self timed out on NN-Survival) 14:32 VanessaE WidDos: keep the server chat over on the server channel please. 14:33 WidDos Oh sorry about that. I thought I was. 14:36 VanessaE s'ok 14:40 WidDos Can minetest use Normal Maps? like the thing that make it look 3D 14:40 VanessaE yes 14:40 WidDos Ok. how do I use normalmap then? 14:40 VanessaE see HDX 14:40 VanessaE it uses them 14:40 VanessaE also the engine can generate fake normalmaps as well 14:40 VanessaE (in your settings menu) 14:40 WidDos Ok. 14:40 VanessaE you need to uyse shaders to do it 14:40 VanessaE use* 14:41 WidDos I think it turn on as of Default the Shadoers 14:41 WidDos *Shaders 14:41 VanessaE probably :) 14:41 VanessaE turn on shaders and bumpmapping 14:41 VanessaE then add normalmaps to your textures. default_foo.png, default_foo_normal.png 14:41 VanessaE simple as that. 14:42 WidDos Ok Thanks Vanessa 14:43 Exio did anyone check https://gist.github.com/quchen/5280339 ? 14:44 VanessaE saw it. 14:44 Exio we need one of those trolls 14:44 Exio MINECRAFT ROCKS BLABLA 14:44 VanessaE no, we don't. 14:44 Exio and end with him using minetest? 14:44 Exio :D 14:44 WidDos What is Mip=Mapping? 14:45 WidDos ^- not = 14:45 VanessaE WidDos: a type of distance-based filtering 14:45 WidDos Ok. I didn't know it was so I left it off. same for all other below it 14:45 VanessaE as a texture is displayed "further away", smaller versions of the texture are used instead of just scaling down the whole thing in realtime. 14:46 WidDos So should I have it on for 512x512? 14:46 VanessaE yes. 14:46 VanessaE use mipmap + aniso 14:46 VanessaE you'll want that :) 14:46 WidDos Ok 14:46 VanessaE if your video card can handle it 14:46 WidDos Yeah I have OpenGL 3.3 14:47 VanessaE no, it's about the capability and speed of your card and how much RAM it has. 14:47 VanessaE you don't *have* to use the same size of texture as your normalmap btw 14:47 WidDos Ok 14:47 VanessaE you can use 128px HDX with 512px normals if you want, for example. 14:49 WidDos Should I tell you my Display info see if it good for the settings? 14:51 VanessaE what's your rez? 14:51 WidDos You mean my screen size? 14:52 WidDos If so... It is 1600x1200 14:52 Calinou higher screen sizes make mip-mapping less useful, but it's useful for any screen size 14:53 Calinou by the way… anisotropic filtering (used with mip-mapping) looks better (less blurry textures at distance), but is a bit slower. 14:53 Calinou it's worth using 14:53 PenguinDad <3 https://soundcloud.com/ephixa/turret-error-ephixa-portal-2 14:53 Calinou for 512 × 512, you should probably enable bilinear + trilinear filtering too, to actually smoothen textures 14:53 Calinou (also good for 256², but at 128² and lower it's blurry) 14:54 WidDos So I should turn on then bilinear + trilinear? 14:55 Calinou yes 14:55 WidDos Ok going to try it after I finish doing the normalmaps 14:55 PenguinDad why not 2^16-linear :P 14:56 WidDos 32x32? 14:56 PenguinDad !c 2**16 14:56 MinetestBot 65536 14:56 WidDos Oh 14:58 WidDos Is there a tool or something make normalmaps? 14:59 PenguinDad CrazyBump or however it was called 14:59 WidDos Ok. Idk if Minetest used some kind of normalmap thing. or it same like for any other 15:00 Calinou GIMP-normalmap 15:00 Calinou it's a GIMP extension, so you need GIMP (free) installed 15:01 WidDos Yeah That I use Calinou I didn't if worked for minetest. I know works great for other games 15:01 Calinou it should work… 15:01 WidDos Ok I will try 15:02 Calinou normal-maps are more or less interoperable, the only engines where you may need to flip them (and that's all) is id tech 4 and maybe some other proprietary ones 15:02 WidDos Yeah but as for Source SDK it don't need be change 15:07 * WidDos Go test his Normalmap thing works 15:11 WidDos Umm. LOL XD the the normal map overlapped the texture 15:16 markv You should put the number of lines you are allowed to paste within X seconds in the topic 15:16 VanessaE no, you shouldn't. 15:17 VanessaE then spammers will use that info. 15:18 PenguinDad you are allowed to paste ∞ lines in ∞ seconds 15:18 markv That's a 1:1 15:18 markv wait 15:18 markv is it? 15:19 shadowzone VanessaE I am not a spammer unless I am mad. 15:19 shadowzone Whcih I avoid. 15:19 shadowzone *which 15:19 markv I am not a spammer unless something goes wrong with my client 15:19 VanessaE don't get mad here.. :P 15:19 shadowzone VanessaE I bring my spamming to pm's 15:19 markv I have my own channel which I spam onto when I get mad 15:19 shadowzone mostly with cg72 or Microchip. 15:20 WidDos I don't spam here. I think Spam should taking to a Spam IRC 15:20 Exio PenguinDad, ∞/∞ is inderminate 15:20 shadowzone #SpamLand 15:20 Exio err 15:20 Exio markv, 15:21 WidDos Yeah spamland... 15:21 PenguinDad ###############howmany#sdoweneed 15:21 shadowzone join that to spam like mad. 15:21 WidDos Wow. thats alot of hashtags 15:21 markv My spam channel is invite only 15:22 shadowzone You haven't seen a lot of hashtags till you get on twitter. 15:22 Calinou PenguinDad, ∞/∞ is inderminate 15:22 Calinou not 0? 15:22 Exio ? 15:22 WidDos I been on Twitter but I mean That alot for a Channel on IRC 15:22 shadowzone Oh. 15:23 Calinou a lot* 15:23 WidDos What is the Preload ItemVisuals for? 15:23 PenguinDad Calinou: you are allowed to paste 0 lines in 0 seconds :P 15:23 shadowzone Huh? 15:23 shadowzone then that means you're muted. 15:23 Exio Calinou, lim (x->∞) (4x^2-20x+4)/(3x^2+5x+3) 15:23 Calinou WidDos, keep it off, except for debugging 15:23 Exio shadowzone, 0/0 15:23 Calinou it increases the loading time of game, uses more RAM, causes more bugs 15:23 Exio still the same 15:23 Exio PenguinDad, :( 15:24 WidDos Oh. XD I had it on since had minetest 15:24 Calinou the only upside is inventories always open instantly, since all item visuals are generated. 15:24 Calinou it's not worth it 15:24 shadowzone WidDos yeah I turned off a long time ago. 15:24 WidDos Ok. Idk what it do. I thought it was to load the texture pack on other servers 15:24 shadowzone Plus I played on VE-Survival a lot and it take all year to join. 15:24 sfan5 !c 0/0 15:24 MinetestBot ZeroDivisionError: division by zero 15:25 sfan5 MinetestBot! 15:25 MinetestBot sfan5! 15:25 markv MinetestBot! 15:25 MinetestBot markv! 15:25 * PenguinDad throws nan at sfan5 15:25 PenguinDad E> MinetestBot 15:26 * sfan5 throws ruby at PenguinDad 15:26 kahrl !c lim (x->∞) (4x^2-20x+4)/(3x^2+5x+3) 15:26 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 15:26 * shadowzone tosses sfan5 a ball of yarn 15:26 Exio kahrl, 4/3 :P 15:26 kahrl I know :P 15:26 Exio :D 15:27 * Calinou tosses shadowzone a ball of yarn 15:27 PilzAdam lim (x ->∞) (1 + 1 / n) ^ n 15:27 Exio e 15:28 Exio also 15:28 Exio what 15:28 Exio no 15:28 Exio x != n 15:28 PilzAdam oh 15:28 Exio PilzAdam, lim (x->∞) (1+ (1/x))^x 15:28 markveidemanis #markveidemanis 15:28 markveidemanis !c 1/! 15:28 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 15:28 markveidemanis !c 1/"d" 15:28 MinetestBot TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for /: 'int' and 'str' 15:29 markveidemanis !c "markveidemanis" > MinetestBot 15:29 MinetestBot NameError: name 'MinetestBot' is not defined 15:29 markveidemanis !c "markveidemanis" > "MinetestBot" 15:29 MinetestBot True 15:29 sfan5 https://pay.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/2blq0c/when_my_coworker_asks_me_if_he_should_define_a/ 15:29 markveidemanis =D 15:29 PenguinDad !c 111 * 6 15:29 MinetestBot 666 15:29 * shadowzone plays with ball of yarn 15:29 * shadowzone tosses Calinou a beach ball 15:29 * sfan5 licks shadowzone 15:29 * shadowzone hands sfan5 to VanessaE' 15:30 * shadowzone shoots her ' key off her keyboard 15:30 * markveidemanis shoots everyone with a bazooka killing himself in the process 15:30 * shadowzone explodes 15:30 PenguinDad !c ### MEOW ### 15:30 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 15:30 PenguinDad :( 15:30 markveidemanis !c #ss 15:30 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 15:30 markveidemanis Y U USE STRING? 15:31 markveidemanis !c "google" > "bing" 15:31 MinetestBot True 15:31 markveidemanis !c "google" > "Bing" 15:31 MinetestBot True 15:31 markveidemanis !c "google" < "Bing" 15:31 MinetestBot False 15:31 Liljnc3 Lol 15:31 sfan5 !ignore markveidemanis!*@* 15:31 MinetestBot sfan5: 'markveidemanis!*@*' added to ignore list. 15:31 markveidemanis !c "sfan5sssfuckyou 15:31 Liljnc3 No fuck you 15:31 markveidemanis !ignore sfan5 all 15:32 markveidemanis sfan5!*@* added to ignore list. 15:32 pitriss !ban markv 15:32 markv Course 15:32 sfan5 !ban *@unaffiliated/marktwain 15:32 pitriss :] 15:34 PenguinDad ^ stayed the longest 15:35 gaythegod well 15:35 gaythegod hi 15:36 * shadowzone facepalms 15:36 gaythegod sfan5: hi 15:36 shadowzone Hi. 15:36 gaythegod How is everyone this fine day 15:36 shadowzone Good. 15:36 gaythegod Good! 15:36 gaythegod What is everyone up to? 15:36 * GhostDoge barks at hackingisillegal 15:36 hackingisillegal im just here to chat to sfan5 15:37 hackingisillegal oka 15:37 Calinou (probably ban evasion) 15:37 hackingisillegal sorry 15:37 hackingisillegal I will 15:37 shadowzone That is why I facepalmed. 15:37 sfan5 !ban *@my.daddy.violates.me 15:37 Calinou thanks 15:37 VanessaE *sigh* 15:37 sfan5 !kick changthenick 15:37 sfan5 and this is why unbanning markveidemanis is not a good idea 15:37 sfan5 lolol 15:38 sfan5 !op 15:38 Exio +i 15:38 shadowzone holy........ 15:38 VanessaE wtf? 15:38 pitriss some kid thinsk that he is funny.. 15:38 shadowzone VanessaE I have no idea wtf just happen. 15:38 VanessaE that's called a skr1ptkiddie 15:38 VanessaE joinflood 15:38 Exio sfan5, report in #freenode? 15:38 VanessaE same old bullshit 15:38 sfan5 fail 15:39 GhostDoge What the hay was that? 15:39 sfan5 Exio: thanks 15:39 Xack uh 15:39 sfan5 GhostDoge: joinspam 15:39 Xack topkek 15:39 Xack LE BOTNET 15:39 * shadowzone wonders how they are all oping 15:40 Calinou ChanServ does it for us 15:40 shadowzone Oh. 15:40 * PenguinDad pets ChanServ 15:42 sfan5 !op 15:42 Exio http://dpaste.com/0G3F12Y 15:43 VanessaE sfan5: could our old nemesis be back? 15:43 asdf___ hi 15:43 asdf___ id like to say sorry 15:43 asdf___ for being so rude 15:43 asdf___ but 15:43 Exio . 15:43 asdf___ we need to talk about you annoying one of my friends 15:43 shadowzone menesis? 15:43 shadowzone *nemesis? 15:43 pitriss nice shot, VanessaE:)) 15:43 Jordach fuck off markv :P 15:45 PenguinDad VanessaE: which nemesis? 15:45 VanessaE wtf was his name.. 15:45 VanessaE light-something? 15:46 VanessaE damn it, I can't remember 15:46 Exio what a join-per-second limit? 15:46 sfan5 VanessaE: landmine? 15:46 VanessaE that was him 15:46 VanessaE yes 15:46 Exio about a* 15:47 VanessaE guess I was anxious to forget ;) 15:48 PenguinDad That was probably before I found minetest 15:49 Exio someone record http://dpaste.com/0G3F12Y so we can remember the moment when the channel had 3x users! 15:49 VanessaE G*d damn it. 15:49 erry :D 15:49 VanessaE you beat me to it, Exio 15:49 VanessaE :) 15:49 sfan5 another log -> http://sprunge.us/ccIh 15:49 Exio exio'd? 15:49 sfan5 ^ 15:49 VanessaE and a third: http://pastebin.com/4JyFnqjc 15:50 minetestplayer my bots can reigster with nickserv 15:50 minetestplayer hope you know 15:50 minetestplayer anyways 15:50 minetestplayer lets talk 15:50 minetestplayer so 15:50 Xack lol 15:50 minetestplayer I was told 15:50 Xack hAHHAHAHAHAH 15:50 minetestplayer to come here 15:50 sfan5 erry! 15:50 Xack minetestplayer: lol 15:50 minetestplayer Thanks 15:50 VanessaE erry: sic him! 15:50 Xack (-: 15:50 minetestplayer jesus 15:50 Xack le funny 15:50 minetestplayer thats rude 15:50 erry ಠ_ಠ15:50 sfan5 meow :3 15:50 Xack lol 15:50 minetestplayer wanna know what else is funny? 15:50 minetestplayer uh 15:50 Xack inb4 le botnet 15:50 minetestplayer if you wanna see the net 15:50 minetestplayer join 15:50 Xack no 15:50 minetestplayer #dongs 15:51 minetestplayer shame. 15:51 Xack > dongs 15:51 Xack lol 15:51 sfan5 lolwat 15:51 minetestplayer it can register with nickserv 15:51 Xack legit 15:51 Xack VanessaE: :( 15:51 Xack we were having fun 15:51 sfan5 VanessaE: you ninja'd me 15:51 VanessaE this is NOT fun. 15:51 sfan5 ^ 15:51 sfan5 not really 15:51 Xack Well, mocking him/her was. 15:51 Xack but the rest... nah 15:52 sfan5 someone should probably mail the providers about their customers having infected computers 15:52 sfan5 my provider (german telekom) cares about that 15:52 shadowzone VanessaE I sent Microchip that pastebin of the join flood and his face went O_O woah. 15:52 sfan5 but I'm pretty sure other ISPs don't 15:53 Xack sfan5: yeah, I always wondered whether the companies were emailed about such things 15:53 Xack also pretty rude him/herself to infect other hosts :3 15:53 Xack also quite sad. 15:53 sfan5 ^ 15:55 Exio sfan5, parsed your log fwiw http://dpaste.com/1X9MXD3.txt 15:55 sfan5 sfan5: Auto-ignored frogfish(frogfish!~frogfish@gateway/tor-sasl/frogfish) for !c crash attempt 15:55 sfan5 there we go again 15:55 sfan5 ^ erry 15:55 Exio crash attempt? 15:55 sfan5 this is my bot reporting on people trying to calculate 999^999^999 15:55 Exio i see :P 15:56 VanessaE sfan5: I thought your bot just told people to fuck off or some such? :) 15:56 Exio they also do that, probably 15:56 sfan5 VanessaE: it also notifies me 15:56 VanessaE oh ok 15:57 sfan5 HEY BUDDY 15:57 sfan5 * [loldongs] (~asdf@my.daddy.violates.me): asdf 15:57 sfan5 that guy again 15:57 Exio just do /mode +R 15:57 sfan5 Exio: in query not here 15:57 nyuszika7h Exio: y u no sort -u 15:58 Jordach sfan5, your user mode +R stops unwanted messages 15:58 Exio sfan5, umode +r 15:58 sfan5 oh 15:58 Exio not +R 15:58 Jordach from non-registered users 15:58 sfan5 I don't need that 15:58 sfan5 I haz /ignore 15:58 nyuszika7h there's no umode +r 15:58 nyuszika7h the user mode is +R 15:58 Exio ff 15:58 nyuszika7h the channel mode is +r 15:58 sfan5 VanessaE: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/calc.py#L67-69 15:58 Exio i keep confunsing them 15:59 VanessaE sfan5: ah yes 16:00 Exio i'd report took-too-long-to-calculate as "check what is going on" 16:00 Exio because can't you use python code? 16:00 Exio !c lambda(x):(x+1)(2) 16:00 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 16:00 Exio hm, whatever 16:00 PenguinDad !c (lambda(x):(x+1))(2) 16:00 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 16:00 sfan5 !c (lambda(x):x+1)(2) 16:00 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 16:00 sfan5 !c (lambda x:x+1)(2) 16:00 MinetestBot 3 16:00 sfan5 ^ Exio 16:01 Exio Z-combinator 16:02 sfan5 <3 Jordach 16:03 Jordach <3 MinetestBot 16:03 MinetestBot <3 Jordach 16:03 Exio !c (lambda h: (lambda f:f(f))(lambda f: h(lambda n: f(f)(n))))(lambda g: lambda n: n and n * g(n-1) or 1)(25) 16:03 MinetestBot 15511210043330985984000000 16:03 Exio sfan5, ^ 16:03 sfan5 Exio: thats a number, and now? 16:03 sfan5 oh 16:04 sfan5 you can do recursion with lambdas 16:04 sfan5 right 16:04 Exio !c (lambda h: (lambda f:f(f))(lambda f: h(lambda n: f(f)(n))))(lambda g: lambda n: n and n * g(n-1) or 1)(300) 16:04 MinetestBot 306057512216440636035370461297268629388588804173576999416776741259476533176716867465515291422477573349939147888701726368864263907759003154226842927906974559841225476930271954604008012215776252176854255965356903506788725264321896264299365204576448830388909753943489625436053225980776521270822437639449120128678675368305712293681943649956460498166450227716500185176546469340112226034729724066333258583506870150169794168850353752137554910289126407157154830 16:04 sfan5 didn't know that 16:04 Exio sfan5, lambda-calculus to the rescue! 16:04 Exio i think python doesn't optimize tail-calls, does it? 16:04 Jordach sfan5, what do you mean the nunber is too big for MinetestBot 16:04 Jordach clearly its working there ;) 16:05 sfan5 Exio: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/commit/fa552066117de3b54d18c7aa530be12b0251a939 16:05 Exio !c (lambda h: (lambda f:f(f))(lambda f: h(lambda n: f(f)(n))))(lambda g: lambda n: g(n-1))(300) 16:05 MinetestBot RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded 16:05 Exio ahm 16:11 Calinou half life sign-calculus 16:12 Exio lambda is like, 70 years older than valve's half-life 16:13 PenguinDad !dev Git Guidelines 16:13 MinetestBot "This page is mostly directed to core developers with commit access to upstream repositories." - http://dev.minetest.net/Git_Guidelines 16:14 Calinou only? 16:15 Exio Calinou, ? 16:15 Exio only? :P 16:15 PenguinDad Git https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtQnfw2CYAIh123.jpg:large 16:19 frogfish hai 16:19 sfan5 hello 16:19 PenguinDad shark 16:19 frogfish im kind of new to minetest 16:20 VanessaE hi 16:20 frogfish I've got it from git and compiled it 16:20 frogfish Just need to get mods now 16:21 VanessaE get mods mods from the forums 16:21 frogfish which do you suggest i install for minetest? 16:21 VanessaE er 16:21 frogfish I havent looked around enough to get a good enough opinion 16:21 VanessaE get most* mods from the forums 16:21 PenguinDad frogfish: get dreambuilder and you'll have enough mods ;) 16:22 frogfish dreambuilder... 16:22 frogfish Not come past that one 16:22 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9196 16:22 frogfish Woah, lotta mods there 16:23 frogfish Got dwarf beer for me? 16:24 sfan5 what? 16:24 frogfish Dwarf beer 16:24 frogfish You know 16:24 frogfish Normal beer 16:24 frogfish [mod] 16:24 VanessaE draft* 16:24 VanessaE (or draught) 16:34 Calinou frogfish, or Carbone :p 16:34 Calinou it's a game, bundles the most useful mods: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9033 16:35 sfan5 >Cable companies: We’re afraid Netflix will demand payment from ISPs 16:35 sfan5 are they serious? 16:35 sfan5 https://twitter.com/arstechnica/status/492708637996236801 16:36 frogfish I started it a while ago and media still loading 16:36 VanessaE frogfish: it takes a while 16:38 Calinou well, I hope it doesn't happen, sfan5 16:38 VanessaE um... I doubt that'll happen 16:38 Calinou (France here, Netflix is not here yet, but when they will…) 16:38 ^v so, is LuaJIT built into minetest or does it look for a so 16:38 frogfish It won't load :( 16:38 Calinou what error do you get? 16:38 Calinou ^v, yes, since Q2 2013 16:38 VanessaE ^v: it picks it up at compile-time if your system has it installed. 16:38 Calinou enabled by default, except if you don't have LuaJIT installed 16:38 frogfish Error. 16:39 frogfish Too bored 16:39 frogfish Just how much media is it? 16:39 VanessaE frogfish: about 34MB. 16:39 sfan5 netflix site says it will come to germany "soon" 16:39 VanessaE if I remember right. 16:39 ^v are you using luajit 2.1 16:39 frogfish 26MB 16:39 frogfish Nope no luajit 16:39 VanessaE ^v: whatever your system has installed. 16:39 ^v because 2.1 is awesome and has 64 bitwise operators 16:39 Calinou well, if I don't know the error, I can't help 16:39 Calinou Carbone is less than 26 MB, I think 16:40 ^v by operators i mean the bitlib supports LL and ULL 16:40 Calinou so you're probably talking about Drambuilder 16:40 Calinou Version: 2.0.2+dfsg-1 16:40 Calinou this is the version in Ubuntu 14.04 16:40 Calinou http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libluajit-5.1-dev 16:40 sfan5 ^v: minetest should support most of the luajit version installed 16:40 Calinou https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libluajit-5.1-dev 16:40 Calinou 2.0.3 in sid/utopic 16:40 rubenwardy Hi all! 16:40 Calinou hi rubenwardy :) 16:40 sfan5 zsh 2501 % sudo pacman -Q luajit 16:40 sfan5 luajit 2.0.3-3 16:41 sfan5 ^ arch 16:41 VanessaE sfan5: except I thought 5.2-esque features were shunned in minetest 16:41 VanessaE hey rubenwardy 16:41 sfan5 VanessaE: if luajit supports them it should work 16:41 sfan5 VanessaE: other topic: do you have rollback enabled on your servers? 16:41 cg72 sfan she always does 16:42 VanessaE sfan5: I do. 16:42 Exio Calinou, france doesn't have netflix? 16:42 Exio >argentina has netflix 16:43 sfan5 VanessaE: and you usually rollback stuff using it? 16:43 sfan5 Exio: >germany has no netflix 16:43 Exio ok 16:43 Exio oh, man 16:43 VanessaE sfan5: yes, from time to time. 16:43 Exio http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/47545/40495469.pdf the title is amazing 16:44 Exio bbl 16:44 VanessaE usually it works fine. why? 16:44 sfan5 is /rollback_check fast? 16:44 sfan5 just trying to find out whether my new mod would make sense to use for you 16:45 VanessaE not really 16:45 VanessaE sometimes it gets dog slow actually. 16:45 VanessaE sometimes it checks stuff in the blink of an eye 16:45 sfan5 how many seconds? 16:45 VanessaE anywhere from a second to a full minute 16:45 sfan5 :o 16:46 VanessaE and the rollback logs have gotten huge. like 800 megs for a few weeks' worth of usage on a fairly quiet server. 16:46 WidDos How do rollback work? 16:46 ^v aww, it would be cool if it was built in and enabled some of luajit's 52 compatability (__len __pairs __ipairs __lt __le) 16:47 cg72 sfan5 /rollback_check only shows like 5 or so lines, it would nice to bring up a formspec with a complete list 16:47 VanessaE WidDos: /rollback_check