Time Nick Message 00:00 VanessaE (they'll all need to be the same) 00:00 crazyR thanks :D 00:00 VanessaE larger numbers move the text up, I think 00:00 VanessaE what change did you make? 00:00 VanessaE I'm curious 00:01 Jordach VanessaE, turns out setting a formspec via a function with a return is a bad idea :3 00:01 VanessaE Jordach: you suck :) 00:02 Jordach wwtf 00:02 Jordach i got into VIM 00:02 Jordach HALP 00:02 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/39CfTmaDsu2J.png 00:03 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/commit/e19f53a60e5e34f892c7742add1af7db03a261b5 00:04 VanessaE escape w q 00:05 VanessaE enter 00:05 Jordach alt f4 + spawn new git bash 00:05 VanessaE that works too. 00:05 Jordach chests work perfectly fine now 00:07 shadowzone VanessaE Do you know where celeron55 got the idea to make minetest and why? 00:08 VanessaE ask him :P 00:08 Jordach expect /ignore 00:08 shadowzone How and where? 00:08 crazyR VanessaE: just been changing those values and its not had any effect on the signs 00:08 shadowzone Jordach got it. 00:09 ShadowNinja Jordach: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/LuaBot And Debian/ubuntu are weird, there are half a doven different luasocket packages depending on version. But on a recent version it should be called lua-socket. 00:09 VanessaE crazyR: strange. those settings are the ones you have to change to move the text. 00:09 Jordach ShadowNinja, lua-socket works in 14.10 00:09 Jordach or something 00:09 shadowzone Crazyr did you try saving it? 00:09 Jordach (don't remember current ver) 00:09 VanessaE shadowzone: lua-socket-dev 00:09 shadowzone *CrazyR 00:10 VanessaE ShadowNinja: ^^^ 00:10 crazyR lol yeah 00:10 shadowzone Ok cause I often forget to save it then I get mad then I have a "Derp! moment. 00:10 * Jordach should update signs_liv 00:10 ShadowNinja VanessaE: There's also liblua51socket2 or something like that. 00:12 crazyR my bug report mod uses luasocket, It Koool 00:12 crazyR send the bug report over to my task managment system 00:12 crazyR *sends 00:12 * Jordach has considered making a place where users can have a consistent iventory across differing BFD servers 00:13 Jordach or if you don't want said inv, don't auth to the master server :) 00:13 Jordach and no, storing it locally will bring the Terraria issue of inventory editors :3 00:14 kizeren Tried doing that once. Storing locally, atleast in my pathatic attempt didn't work. But meh.....would be neat to have that avaliablity. 00:18 crazyR does anybody have a modded unified inventry that looks like the new formspec from minetest_next ? 00:19 shadowzone Not me if I did I'd be using it. 00:20 * Jordach takes an asprin to chill the headache 00:24 crazyR VanessaE: just double checked changing any of them values isnt moving any f the text on the signs 00:24 VanessaE strange 00:25 crazyR oh wait figured it 00:25 crazyR the signs have to be removed and replaced for it to take effect 00:25 VanessaE ah, yep 00:25 VanessaE I assumed you were doing that 00:25 crazyR lol, im too lazy 00:25 crazyR but go no choice now haha 00:25 VanessaE heh 00:26 * shadowzone sighs 00:26 * shadowzone goes off to start a new mod. 00:27 shadowzone Ok first I have a question about 0.4.10. 00:28 shadowzone Ok I copied my mods from 0.4.9's latest git version and they don't show up in the configure thing on my singleplayer or my server tab. 00:28 VanessaE then you put them in the wrong folder :) 00:29 shadowzone I deleted the old mods folder and replaced it completely. 00:30 crazyR is there any better quality fonts around for the sings? 00:30 crazyR *signs 00:31 kizeren So, VanessaE been playing with singlplayer MT. Frames seem better but not compared to your vanilla server. 00:31 VanessaE how's that? 00:32 LemonLake pumping out binary gold baby 00:32 VanessaE crazyR: yes, in the extrafonts dir 00:32 VanessaE there is a 34px font in there 00:32 kizeren Think because your server is doing all the hard stuff while my desktop is just doing rendering stuff. When singleplayer, desktop doing it all. 00:32 LemonLake okay, now im actually out for the night 00:32 LemonLake cya folks 00:32 kizeren bye 00:33 VanessaE crazyR: swap that in in place of the existing font files in the textures folder. the text will be at the same visible size but 2x the resolution. 00:33 VanessaE night LemonLake 00:33 VanessaE kizeren: oh, yes right. 00:33 VanessaE and yeah, the view range is insane now isn't it? :) 00:33 kizeren Sort of. 00:34 kizeren On my system...the far off objects constantly "refresh" or something strange. 00:34 VanessaE that happens to me, too 00:34 kizeren Ahh ok. 00:34 VanessaE the view range jumps in a bit, then jumps back out again 00:34 VanessaE no idea why it does that 00:34 kizeren Shaders don't work for me when the check box is marked. 00:34 shadowzone Wow why haven't I been here? 00:35 VanessaE been where? 00:35 shadowzone in this channel? 00:35 kizeren Smooth lighting doesn't seem to work properly on snow either. But meh... 00:35 VanessaE shadowzone: dunno, because you never asked? :) 00:35 shadowzone This is where everything happens. 00:35 VanessaE shadowzone: yep 00:35 VanessaE this is where we discuss more serious stuff about the engine and games 00:36 VanessaE unlike on the server channel where all the ...eh... immature shit happens 00:36 VanessaE (of course it gets that way here too sometimes) 00:36 shadowzone Yeah it happens everywhere. 00:36 VanessaE kizeren: snow is a nodebox, no smooth lighting on those. 00:37 kizeren Ahhh 00:37 kizeren Never thought of that. 00:37 VanessaE well, it's a "leveled" node 00:37 VanessaE but that's still a nodebox internally I think 01:17 Abandonikus hi 01:18 VanessaE hi 01:18 shadowzone Hi, how are you 01:18 shadowzone ? 01:19 Abandonikus boring 01:20 Abandonikus I'm just downloaded this game, but no one want to help 01:20 Abandonikus I don't know how to collect blocks 01:22 pitriss Abandonikus: Where are you playing? Singleplayer or on some online serve? 01:22 Abandonikus Online, xanadu server 01:22 Jordach *heavy breathing* http://slipsum.com/ 01:23 VanessaE Abandonikus: you probably need to get interact from one of the server's moderators. 01:23 Abandonikus And now i'm stuc in some hole and dont know how to exit 01:23 pitriss Abandonikus: You need to ask for interact priv on Xanadu server IIRC 01:23 VanessaE Abandonikus: in most servers, you can /spawn or /respawn to get out of somewhere that you're stuck in 01:24 Abandonikus I will try /respawn , cause /spawn not working 01:24 Abandonikus Is there any server that i dont need permision to collect blocks? 01:25 pitriss from memory linuxgaming.us should have interact by default 01:26 Abandonikus Ok, thanks 01:26 pitriss yw 01:28 VanessaE Abandonikus: most servers require you to request interact 01:28 VanessaE it's to help control griefers 01:45 shadowzone Bye I will see you all tomorrow. 01:45 VanessaE bbl 02:40 swaaws minetest forum down ?!? 06:32 nman3600 Anyone have a flag suggestion for my flags mod? 06:33 PenguinDad I only have two spam suggestions https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9805 & https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9806 06:37 nman3600 Should I do the costa-rican flag? 06:47 nman3600_ About time. 06:54 nman3600 Sneak peek for flags 1.5: https://mediacru.sh/feEmoa1TWlFN 07:18 LemonLake VanessaE: Solid 65C 07:19 LemonLake 26176 accepted shares 07:20 LemonLake 12 rejected 07:23 LemonLake 144 rejected* 07:58 nman3600 I'm always crashing on hexchat... 08:06 sfan5 yes! 08:06 PenguinDad yay! http://games.usvsth3m.com/2048/powers-of-three-edition-16/ 08:12 PenguinDad sfan5: spam for you :P https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9805 & https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9806 08:14 sfan5 >Sometimes we just want a quiet environment to enjoy ourselves. Then you may need this cellular jammer [...]. 08:14 sfan5 lolwatr 08:14 sfan5 -r 08:14 Calinou encase yourself in a house made of Meze 08:19 * sfan5 meows at Calinou 08:20 * nman3600 strokes sfan5 08:21 * sfan5 is a cat 08:21 * PenguinDad meows at nman3600 08:21 nman3600 :D 08:27 sfan5 meow 08:27 sfan5 hi everyone 08:27 sfan5 hi MinetestBot 08:27 MinetestBot Hello sfan5 08:28 sfan5 BIRTHDAYS 08:28 sfan5 Congratulations to: Megaf (27) 08:28 sfan5 :o 08:28 PenguinDad <3 MinetestBot 08:28 MinetestBot <3 PenguinDad 09:34 nman3600 こんにちは 09:46 PenguinDad ニャー 09:51 * sfan5 meows at nman3600 09:51 nman3600 こんにちは　sfan5 09:51 sfan5 こんいちは 09:52 sfan5 s/い/に/ 09:55 fling sfan5: looks like this patch fixes /usr/local/ problem -> http://bpaste.net/show/490679/ 09:57 LemonLake hmmm 09:57 LemonLake i broke my miner 09:57 LemonLake got banned :/ 10:02 JRowe hey, so I have skylands mod installed, how do I activate it? 10:10 sfan5 fling: yes that fixes it, but it simply forces minetest to use the system lua (which has an s/\/usr\/local/\/usr/ patch) 10:10 sfan5 JRowe: use the "configure" menu 10:10 sfan5 18<LemonLake18> got banned :/ 10:10 sfan5 oh 10:10 sfan5 gone 10:11 Krock hi 10:11 JRowe ok, I enabled it, but I'm not seeing any skylands biomes 10:11 PenguinDad Krock: http://games.usvsth3m.com/2048/powers-of-three-edition-16/ 10:11 Krock :D 10:12 JRowe do i use the v6 mapgen? 10:12 sfan5 JRowe: did you make sure to create a new world? 10:12 JRowe I'm creating a new world now - no seed, v6 mapgen selected 10:12 JRowe minetest Game? 10:14 sfan5 yes 10:15 JRowe ok 10:16 JRowe then i enabled skylands and the dependencies and I'm not seeing any skylands lol 10:18 Krock fly up to 100m 10:18 JRowe how do i tell how high I am? 10:18 JRowe I'm above the clouds 10:19 Krock F5 10:20 JRowe ok 10:20 JRowe 100 is right below the clouds 10:21 Krock skylands is a mod, right? so say /mods and search it there. if it's missing ... 10:22 JRowe its there 10:22 PenguinDad JRowe: go atleast up to ~700 10:23 JRowe nice 10:23 JRowe it started to activate 10:23 JRowe error : not enough memory 10:25 JRowe restarted 10:25 sfan5 how much RAM does your computer have? 10:25 JRowe lol, 8 gigs 10:25 JRowe i have a ton of stuff running, fixing that 10:25 sfan5 lol 10:26 sfan5 minetest uses 1 gigabyte at max (on my computer) 10:27 Krock (depends on texture pack) 10:27 PenguinDad sfan5: maybe he uses HDX 512px :P 10:27 sfan5 default textures 10:27 JRowe I did try hdx 512 10:27 JRowe but my eyes started to bleed 10:27 JRowe (using my work pc with no gfx card, every other pixel was white) 10:28 sfan5 no gfx card? 10:28 sfan5 there much be one 10:28 sfan5 otherwise you would be seeing nothing at all 10:28 sfan5 probably IGP then 10:29 JRowe yes 10:29 PenguinDad playing minetest in text mode over serial bus lol 10:29 JRowe no "external" gfx card 10:29 JRowe found my first island 10:29 JRowe neat ;D 10:34 fling sfan5: this is an example of files installed from an old luairc lib -> http://bpaste.net/show/490741/ 10:34 fling sfan5: which file to put where when I install this one? -> https://github.com/ShadowNinja/LuaIRC 10:34 * fling is still packaging things ;> 10:35 sfan5 fling: git clone https://github.com/ShadowNinja/LuaIRC.git /usr/share/lua/5.1/irc/ <- like that 10:35 fling sfan5: don't I need to have /usr/share/lua/5.1/irc.lua file or something? 10:35 sfan5 no 10:35 fling ok, thanks 10:35 sfan5 theres /usr/share/lua/5.1/init.lua 10:35 PenguinDad fling: stop pack aging things and start playing ;) 10:36 fling PenguinDad: haha :D 10:36 PenguinDad *packaging 10:36 fling I have built autosmelter 10:36 sfan5 fling: you also maybe want to put README.md and LICENSE.txt to /usr/share/doc/luairc 10:36 fling I just drop some ore and coal into a hole 10:36 fling and it puts ignots into a chest :> 10:37 fling sfan5: ok thanks 10:37 sfan5 o/ asie 10:37 asie hi 10:37 fling asie: Hello. 10:52 Krock GIT: "Some updates" by Krock at https://github.com/SmallJoker/minetest-u_skinsdb 11:06 Krock lol.. I got the error of "too much objects in the mapblock" - got a disconnect :< 11:07 fling 18:06:40: ERROR[main]: The following mods could not be found: "irc" http://bpaste.net/show/490788/ 11:09 fling Is it a wrong global dir for mods? 11:24 Jordach !tw sfan5 11:24 MinetestBot Jordach: Give me a link, a @username, or a tweet id 11:24 Jordach nice mouse pointer sfan5 11:25 sfan5 I currently use "oneko -speed 999 -idle 0 -rv" as a mouse pointer 11:27 Jordach sfan5, stop breaking things :3 11:27 sfan5 not my fault 11:29 fling sfan5: 18:06:40: ERROR[main]: The following mods could not be found: "irc" http://bpaste.net/show/490788/ 11:29 fling sfan5: it is searching for games in /usr/share/games/minetest/games 11:29 fling sfan5: but not searching for mods in /usr/share/games/minetest/mods ? 11:30 sfan5 fling: no 11:30 sfan5 it doesn't look there by default 11:30 fling how to make it look there too by the default? 11:30 fling do I need a patch? 11:31 sfan5 yes 11:31 sfan5 IIRC debian has one 11:31 fling sfan5: thanks 11:33 sfan5 fling: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-games/minetest-v04x.git/tree/debian/patches/shared_mods 11:33 sfan5 this is what debian uses 11:38 fling sfan5: thanks 11:39 shadowzone Hi. 11:40 JRowe ok, so waterfalls from 1500 m falling over sky islands all the way down to the ground are pretty awesome 11:43 JRowe this pc isnt liking it ;P 11:44 PenguinDad Awesomeness overflow exception :D 11:44 fling sfan5: applied but still 18:44:27: ERROR[main]: The following mods could not be found: "irc" 11:44 fling hmm hmmmm 11:45 sfan5 fling: maybe there is another patch.. 11:48 JRowe is there a limit on how much water can be flowing? 11:48 sfan5 not really 12:10 raffahacks did someone try to run mt on raspberry pi? 12:12 sfan5 raffahacks: client or server? 12:12 shadowzone Yep megaf did. 12:12 raffahacks client 12:13 sfan5 dunno about that 12:13 sfan5 but server works 12:13 PenguinDad 00,00Megaf didn't try that afaik 12:13 raffahacks shadowzone: did megaf run client or server? 12:14 shadowzone I think server side. 12:14 raffahacks mmh... i think client's too heavy 12:14 sfan5 how about you test it? 12:14 raffahacks what is new in 0.4.10 12:15 raffahacks don't have a pi now 12:16 PenguinDad raffahacks: look at the changelog http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Changelog#0.4.9_.E2.86.92_0.4.10 12:17 raffahacks Raspberry Pi Minetest optimisation - the start: http://youtu.be/nCbnF9OAne4 12:17 raffahacks seems laggy 12:19 raffahacks do you know a good manual for c++ and irrlicht? 12:19 raffahacks in english or italian 12:20 * PenguinDad throws something totally unrelated in the channel https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript 12:20 Krock sfan5, woul you be so nice and move https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9807 to "Mod Releases"? 12:21 sfan5 !tw https://twitter.com/sfan55/status/491903765394382848 12:21 MinetestBot Today: My mouse pointer is invisible or Why you should never reboot your Linux system. (@sfan55) 12:21 sfan5 ^ Krock 12:21 sfan5 that means no 12:21 Krock oh.. 12:21 sfan5 ask joepie91 12:21 sfan5 Jordach* 12:21 Krock Jordach! 12:23 raffahacks !tw http://twitter.com/fakeuser495929948288843891 12:23 MinetestBot Sorry, couldn't get a tweet from http://twitter.com/fakeuser495929948288843891 (@fakeuser495929948288843891) 12:23 raffahacks ok it handles well 12:23 raffahacks sorry for spam 12:24 raffahacks ;) 12:27 raffahacks who is developing for android 12:27 sfan5 sapier 12:27 raffahacks is he here 12:28 Krock !tell kaeza Could you add support in your IRC mod for the [channels] mod? 12:28 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when kaeza is around 12:29 raffahacks is 1ghz dual core ok for mt? 12:29 Krock still yes :P 12:29 sfan5 raffahacks: yes 12:29 Krock depends on graphic card 12:30 raffahacks mali 400mhz 12:30 raffahacks do you know? 12:31 sfan5 400mhz says nothing about the capabilities of your gfx card 12:32 raffahacks mali 400 gp2 12:32 raffahacks mp2* 12:32 sfan5 raffahacks: yes, it will probably run mt 12:34 raffahacks http://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-graphics-hardware/mali-400-mp.php 12:34 raffahacks i'm absolutely not expert on gpus 12:34 raffahacks will it lag? 12:35 Krock I only have one arm 12:35 * Krock looks at sfan5 12:35 sfan5 raffahacks: nobody can determine that without actually trying 12:36 raffahacks i will 12:37 raffahacks am i the only one who just trolls on this channel without doing anything in programmin? :) 12:38 sfan5 no 12:44 shadowzone I come on here to learn more about lua I am a first time mod maker. 12:44 Krock how to make a mod to create mods? 12:46 sfan5 !unban *!*@unaffiliates/marktwain 12:46 sfan5 !unban *!*@unaffiliated/marktwain 12:46 shadowzone Krock I have no idea. 12:46 markv Hello everyone! 12:46 shadowzone Hi. 12:47 markv !c 1+2 12:47 markv :( 12:48 Krock !c 1 + 2 12:48 MinetestBot 3 12:50 Krock !c 'markv' / 2 12:50 MinetestBot TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for /: 'str' and 'int' 12:50 markv ... 12:50 markv You can try /exec 12:50 Krock /exec 12:50 markv ... 12:51 markv no space 12:51 * Jordach loves VMWare 12:51 Krock - Unknown command (exec) 12:51 markv Depending on your client 12:51 markv Well then 12:51 markv Just looking how to execute python 12:51 Jordach markv, on you're own fucking command line 12:51 markv Jordach, *Your 12:52 markv I know how the command works 12:52 * Krock could add lua to his IRC bot :D 12:53 markv python -c right? 12:53 PenguinDad ''help 12:53 HLuaBot Commands: reload, load, unload, plugins, op, deop, devoice, voice, join, part, help, uptime, echo, raw, eval, quit, more, ping, shutdown, config, tell -- Use 'help ' to get help with a specific command. 12:53 PenguinDad ''ping 12:54 HLuaBot Pong 12:54 Krock ''tell PenguinDad hai! 12:54 HLuaBot I'll tell that to "PenguinDad" next time I see them around. 12:54 PenguinDad lol 12:54 Krock :/ 12:54 PenguinDad Krock: HLuaBot (~LuaBot@cpe-67-241-154-164.buffalo.res.rr.com): [2014-07-23T13:54:13] PenguinDad: hai! 12:54 Krock :D 12:55 PenguinDad she's a bit more personal than MinetestBot 13:20 markv Can I execute python without starting the interpreter interactively? 13:20 markv Sort of as a hexchat /exec thing 13:20 markv /exec python -c 9**9**9**9 13:20 Exio python -e ? 13:21 markv -e 13:21 markv Unknown option: -e 13:22 e1z0 /exec perl -e "fork while fork" 13:22 e1z0 :| 13:22 Exio python -c then 13:25 markv Perl doesn't return output either 13:26 * PenguinDad throws :(){ :|: & };: at e1z0 13:28 e1z0 markv, if you need to get stdout use exec -o 13:28 markv Linux xubuntu 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux 13:29 markv Okay 13:29 markv That sends it to the channel 13:29 markv This could end badly, I'll go test elsewhere 13:29 markv i really don't get any output from python 13:30 Jordach ello ecutruin 13:30 ecutruin Heyo. 13:38 Krock .OyeH 13:38 Jordach ecutruin, managed to make a minetest server using VMWare 13:38 ecutruin Kewl. 13:39 Jordach and i wanted IRC :) 13:39 ecutruin I've went back to MC for now. ^-^ I started working on mod development again. I'll continue to keep an eye on MT of course. 13:39 Jordach yeah :) 13:43 * sfan5 meows at ecutruin 13:44 ecutruin Hey sfan5. :3 13:45 sfan5 hi 13:47 * Jordach has made thoughts about a Minetest server for the IRC regulars 13:53 Krock Jordach! 13:53 Jordach waht 13:53 Krock woul you be so nice and move https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9807 to "Mod Releases"? 13:54 Jordach check again 13:55 Krock thanks. 13:55 Jordach remind me to set that 12ft pool up 13:55 Krock huh? 13:55 Jordach it's really hot over here 13:55 Krock :P 13:55 Krock oke 13:55 Jordach no away nicks please 13:57 Jordach http://www.accuweather.com/en/gb/buxton/nr10-5/weather-forecast/716122 13:57 Jordach pfffffff 13:58 Krock_awake 24° everywhere 14:00 markv I've got a riddle: http://ix.io/dxg 14:00 markv The answer be the key to #mkt 14:02 Jordach ASCII codes, really 14:03 * Jordach goes back to his G9 prototype 14:32 * Krock_tells Jordach, he should set up his 12ft pool 14:37 * GhostDoge_licks Krock 14:37 Krock :D 14:42 Krock !tell Megaf Happy B-day! 14:42 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when Megaf is around 14:42 markv !tell Megaf Happy Birthday! 14:42 MinetestBot markv: I'll pass that on when Megaf is around 14:43 PenguinDad ''tell Megaf Happy Birthday! 14:43 HLuaBot I'll tell that to "Megaf" next time I see them around. 14:43 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 14:44 shadowzone sfan5 why? 14:44 markv Who? 14:44 PenguinDad Megaf will get birthday spam :D 14:44 * sfan5 is a cat 14:44 markv HLuaBot 14:44 * PenguinDad meows at sfan5 14:44 markv HLuaBot, hi 14:44 HLuaBot Unknown command "hi". Try "help". 14:44 PenguinDad Hi HLuaBot 14:44 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 14:44 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 14:44 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 14:44 * PenguinDad pets sfan5 14:45 * sfan5 purrs 14:45 markv WOah HLuaBot up 11 daya 14:45 sfan5 pfff 14:45 markv ... 14:45 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("uptime").read() 14:45 MinetestBot ' 10:45:44 up 147 days, 20:17, 0 users, load average: 0.12, 0.06, 0.01\n' 14:45 markv Well then 14:46 PenguinDad MinetestBot: what's so amazing about that? 14:46 PenguinDad * markv 14:46 markv 15:46:08 up 189 days, 1:20, 1 user, load average: 2.62, 3.44, 3.63 14:46 markv Beat dat 14:46 Partmedia :p 14:47 shadowzone Ya'll ok? 14:47 markv Beat dis too: http://ix.io/dxj 14:47 * sfan5 meows at shadowzone 14:47 markv Time goes really slow when I nmap things 14:47 Exio 24 cpus? 14:47 Exio or 24 cores? 14:47 markv 24 core == 24 cpus, right? 14:47 markv It does say cpus 14:47 Exio cpus != cores 14:48 PenguinDad markv: nope 14:48 * shadowzone throws a ball of yarn at sfan5 14:48 Exio and threads != cores 14:48 Exio markv, for example: an i7 4770, is 1 CPU, has 4 CORES, and 8 THREADS 14:48 Partmedia (my SMP treats cores as logical CPUs, only reliable way is to look at dmesg on boot) 14:49 markv Hmm 14:49 markv That means 2 threads per core 14:49 markv I don't get the 4770 14:49 markv Or the other pointless numbers 14:49 Partmedia btw, anyone know of a way to re-generate mobf spawners on an existing world? 14:49 Exio it is the model 14:49 markv USE Xeon v1 14:49 markv v2, v3 14:49 markv Etc 14:49 Exio markv, cat /proc/cpuinfo 14:50 PenguinDad Integers are pointless numbers :D 14:50 sfan5 ^ 14:51 Exio numbers are pointless doubles! 14:51 sfan5 unsigned integers are way better 14:51 markv Exio, http://ix.io/dxk 14:51 Exio nah 14:51 Exio integers 14:52 Exio http://ark.intel.com/es/products/64594/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2620-15M-Cache-2_00-GHz-7_20-GTs-Intel-QPI 14:52 Exio so you have 12 cores and 24 threads, nice 14:52 Exio and two cpus 14:53 markv :( 14:53 * markv is sad now 14:54 markv http://ix.io/dxl 14:54 markv <3 is.io 14:54 markv <3 ix*.io 14:55 PenguinDad 05<3 sprunge.us 14:56 markv We seem to have a problem http://pastie.org/9415061 14:56 Exio markv, why sad lol 14:56 Exio by having two CPUs you're already over the average 14:56 markv only 12 cores :( 14:57 Exio lol 14:57 Exio i want a quad-cpu mobo 14:57 markv I actually only have 2 on this machine 14:57 Exio with opterons 14:57 markv model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G2030 @ 3.00GHz methinks this is not so good 14:57 Exio your system supports only 380GB of ram (the xeon sys) 14:58 * shadowzone grins 14:58 Exio 384* 14:59 PenguinDad of course 384GB aren't enough :P 15:00 markv What if i get 100G of swap... 15:00 PenguinDad > swap 15:01 markv http://colocrossing.com/servers 15:03 rubenwardy Hi all! 15:03 Calinou hi rubenwardy 15:04 PenguinDad hey rubenwardy 15:04 Calinou markv, WOT rating says it's a scam \o/ 15:04 Calinou yellow trustworthiness 15:04 Exio WOT is shit 15:04 Exio the end. 15:04 Calinou it's almost always true 15:04 Calinou hey, gnu.org is just “Other”, not “Politics/Religion” 15:04 PenguinDad plol 15:05 markv Can you find out who hosts it? 185.24.99.233 15:05 Krock is there already an issue or pull for bigger names ingame? 15:06 PenguinDad Krock: you mean like PENGUINDAD? 15:06 Krock PenguinDad, caps != bigger 15:06 PenguinDad caps == louda 15:16 markv http://ix.io/dxn 15:16 markv Vs http://ix.io/dxo 15:19 Will_McDade Hey, er, I just did a forum post, and then came here. I use Arch Linux with the Enlightenment desktop and Minetest doesn't seem to start. 15:19 sfan5 what does it say if you start it in the console? 15:19 Will_McDade Also the init system is not systemd, it is OpenRC. 15:20 Will_McDade Irrlicht log: Irrlicht Engine version 1.8.1 15:20 Will_McDade Irrlicht log: Linux 3.14.13-1-lts #1 SMP Fri Jul 18 18:39:25 CEST 2014 x86_64 15:20 Will_McDade Irrlicht log: Using renderer: OpenGL 3.3.0 15:20 Will_McDade Irrlicht log: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2: NVIDIA Corporation 15:20 Will_McDade Irrlicht log: OpenGL driver version is 1.2 or better. 15:20 Will_McDade Irrlicht log: GLSL version: 3.3 15:20 Exio could you use a pastebin? 15:20 sfan5 ^ 15:20 Will_McDade oh yeah. sorry 15:20 sfan5 oh look, heres proller, our favourite minetest developer /s 15:20 * Jordach throws sfan5 fire arrows 15:21 * sfan5 meows 15:21 Will_McDade the window comes up for a second but disappears quickly. it is open but not visible at all. 15:21 * Amaz is roflol 15:21 * PenguinDad shoots a torch arrow at ${random-nick} 15:21 Jordach Will_McDade, that should run 15:22 Will_McDade I know 15:23 sfan5 Will_McDade: is that everything it outputs? 15:23 markv !randomnick 15:23 Will_McDade yes 15:23 sfan5 does it crash? 15:24 Will_McDade Nope. I have to CTRL+C in the terminal to close it though 15:26 Calinou what does init system have to do with the game 15:26 sfan5 Will_McDade: version? 15:26 PenguinDad lol since I use -march=native minetest doesn't have these random segfaults anymore 15:26 Will_McDade 0.4.10-1 15:27 sfan5 let me try to reproduce 15:27 sfan5 can't reproduce 15:28 sfan5 Will_McDade: could you build minetest from source? 15:28 Will_McDade ok 15:32 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1 → people always reference this by mistake 15:33 sfan5 s/people/GitHub/ s/reference/references/ 15:34 * Will_McDade has rubbish internet 15:34 Krock Calinou, not the first who notices that. pull or issue 2 isn't better 15:34 MinetestBot Krock: 07-21 15:27 UTC meow 15:34 rubenwardy lol 15:34 Krock !tell PenguinDad moo moo 15:34 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when PenguinDad is around 15:34 * PenguinDad has rubbish internet too 15:34 MinetestBot PenguinDad: 07-23 20:34 UTC moo moo 15:35 Will_McDade theres a sysinfo command in hexchat? :o 15:35 sfan5  HexChat: 2.10.0 ** OS: Linux 3.15.5-2-ARCH x86_64 ** Distro: ArchLinux ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 804MHz ** RAM: Physical: 7,7GiB, 80,1% free ** Disk: Total: 85,3GiB, 69,5% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: 645 NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe ** Uptime: 2h 36m 15:35 sfan5 10s ** 15:35 PenguinDad Calinou: also https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2 15:35 sfan5 damn you hexchat 15:35 Will_McDade i cannot compare... 15:35 Will_McDade  HexChat: 2.10.0 ** OS: Linux 3.14.13-1-lts x86_64 ** Distro: ArchLinux ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.86GHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.8GiB, 77.6% free ** Disk: Total: 527.7GiB, 79.6% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Intel Corporation 82566DM Gigabit Network Connection ** 15:35 Will_McDade Uptime: 24m 37s ** 15:36 rubenwardy I tried getting HexChat to work on Linux, it was painful 15:36 * sfan5 has a laptop that is about 3 years old 15:36 * Krock has a PC which is about 8 years old 15:37 * PenguinDad has a PC which is 2 years old 15:37 Will_McDade Why am I tar xf'ing a zip... 15:37 sfan5 ^ 15:38 Will_McDade I built this PC a week ago! 15:38 Will_McDade cost me £50 excluding the parts I already had. 15:38 sfan5 I assume not from new parts? 15:38 sfan5 ah 15:38 * Jordach is still working on his Zoostorm 15:38 Will_McDade no... 2nd hand mostly... 15:38 Jordach 2x GTX750ti :3 15:39 Krock 1x GT6600!! 15:39 sfan5 Jordach: how much $$? 15:39 Jordach the second one is mainly rendering 15:39 PenguinDad 1x GTX650 15:39 Exio my computers: an amd duron from 2001 + an amd bulldozer from 2012(?) 15:39 Will_McDade 1x MSi Geforce GT N210! 15:39 Jordach http://www.ebuyer.com/618542-msi-gtx-750-ti-oc-2gb-gddr5-vga-dvi-hdmi-pci-e-graphics-n750ti-2gd5-oc <- one of these 15:39 Krock 1x SiS 667 15:39 Krock ^beats everything 15:39 sfan5 1x NVIDIA GeForce GT 520M here 15:40 Will_McDade I set up Windows 7 in VMware earlier. It hurt my eyes. 15:40 Krock yeah. don't use VMware. thn it's better 15:40 Will_McDade Haven't used Windows in months. 15:40 sfan5 VirtualBox ftw 15:40 PenguinDad KVM/qemu ftnw 15:40 Will_McDade VirtualBox is great when you have guest additions installed :P 15:41 Will_McDade VMware has a xorg driver that works OOTB :) 15:41 Will_McDade But thats Linux hosts. 15:41 Will_McDade *guests* 15:43 Jordach Will_McDade, i'm running 3x VMWare clients on AMD-V 1x Mac OSX, 2x Linux Headless + Xubuntu 15:43 Will_McDade Nice 15:43 Exio why do you even need a virtual machine when you have linux containers? 15:43 Will_McDade MacOSX guest? :p 15:43 Jordach and Minetest is still pushing 120fps 15:43 PenguinDad Jordach: try that with failminer :p 15:45 Jordach PenguinDad, the Xubuntu instance runs the MT server (much easier to work with when you have a folder in the bg with a xterm upfront) 15:45 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 15:46 Jordach AMD-V/RVI even :3 15:46 Will_McDade Minetest didn't work. 15:47 Will_McDade I have a plan. 15:47 Will_McDade I'll quickly install LXDE, change desktops, and see if it is Enlightenment causing the problem. 15:47 Krock run a 32bit minetest version on a 64bit linux, using a VBox :P 15:48 Calinou shame on you for VMWare :( 15:48 Will_McDade I use the free VMware Player.... but only if I need to do performance stuff. Most of the time I use Virtualbox. 15:49 sfan5 Krock: one uses qemu-user for such things 15:49 Krock sfan5, or that... 15:49 Will_McDade brb 15:53 Will_McDade LXDE works... 15:56 Will_McDade well 15:56 Will_McDade the dev release wont let me create a world... 15:56 sfan5 whats the error 15:56 sfan5 brb 15:59 Will_McDade ERROR: No worldname given or no game selected 16:01 rubenwardy FAQ :P 16:20 Krock this is the sound of silence 16:20 * shadowzone hands Krock a cookie 16:21 * Krock arms shadowzone a kitteh 16:21 * rubenwardy is wrestling with Irrlicht 16:22 shadowzone Hi rudenwardy. 16:22 shadowzone *ruben 16:22 * Krock feets shadowzone names autocomplete 16:23 shadowzone Krock huh do what with my name? 16:23 Krock [name autocomplete] 16:23 shadowzone Oh. 16:24 rubenwardy Hi shadowzone 16:29 Jordach tl;dr mowing the lawn sucks 16:29 Jordach (i have considered 16:30 Jordach retrofitting the brains of a roomba) 16:31 Jordach afternoon asie 16:32 PenguinDad evenings asie 16:32 asie hi 16:38 shadowzone Jordach what is so bad about mowing the lawn? 16:38 Jordach it's boring as fuck 16:39 shadowzone Oh. 16:40 Jordach GPS + Co-ords = automated grass cutting 16:41 VanessaE hi all, again 16:42 shadowzone Hi VanessaE. 16:45 VanessaE Jordach: GPS isn't accurate enough for that 16:45 VanessaE but immediate-area radio ranging of some kind should be 16:51 Megaf_ Hi everyone 16:52 Megaf_ It's been a while already and no crashes at all 16:54 shadowzone Happy birthday Megaf_ 16:54 fling ok so why is not the patch working? -> http://bpaste.net/show/491571/ 16:54 Megaf_ Thanks shadowzone =) 16:54 fling patched successfully, still can't found a mod in /usr/… 16:54 VanessaE get_mods ? 16:55 VanessaE oh, not familiar with the mod manager's code. 16:56 fling VanessaE: the idea is to make it to load mods from /usr/share/games/minetest/mods 16:56 fling VanessaE: the similar way it is loading games from /usr/share/games/minetest/games 16:57 Exio VanessaE, and it would be nice app to code 16:58 fling sfan5: ^ it is still not doing what I want 17:03 PenguinDad "Most users ever online was 231 on 04 Jun 2014, 10:41" :O 17:04 zoz anybody have 4.10 working on OpenBSD? 17:05 VanessaE 0.4.10* 17:07 zoz so i need to compile master? 17:09 PenguinDad the only thing I know regarding *BSD is that minetest runs on FreeBSD 17:10 fling is modmgr.lua is only for GUI? 17:10 fling builtin/mainmenu/modmgr.lua 17:12 fling btw what is mainmenu? 17:13 Exio the main... menu? 17:13 fling Exio: gui? 17:13 Krock start minetest - there's main menu 17:13 fling ok so I need similar thing but for server and not for mainmenu -> http://bpaste.net/show/491571/ 17:13 fling which file to patch? 17:14 fling this is where I have mod installed -> http://bpaste.net/show/491607/ 17:14 fling 18:06:40: ERROR[main]: The following mods could not be found: "irc" 17:15 Krock i got a dejà vu 17:15 * fling too 17:16 stormchaser3000 hi 17:16 Krock ih 17:16 stormchaser3000 um is there a way to compile minetest 0.2.x with the latest gcc compiler? 17:16 Krock why? 17:16 stormchaser3000 eh 17:16 stormchaser3000 i want to use minetest 0.2.x 17:16 stormchaser3000 XD 17:17 fling stormchaser3000: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-games/minetest-v04x.git/tree/debian/patches/gcc47.patch 17:17 Krock hold on - does 0.2.x even exist? 17:17 stormchaser3000 Krock: yes 17:17 * Amaz throws https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/tag/0.2.20110731_3 at Krock 17:18 * Krock nods 17:18 stormchaser3000 just a sc 17:18 stormchaser3000 sec* 17:18 * stormchaser3000 gets on xchat 17:18 Amaz I can't seem to compile it either... 17:19 * Krock gives twoelk #minetest-de 17:19 twoelk passiert da jetzt etwas mehr? 17:20 stormchaser3000 there 17:21 stormchaser3000 fling: how to apply that? 17:21 Amaz I can't seem to compile it (or any version before 0.4.x) either... 17:21 stormchaser3000 Amaz: your compiler is too new 17:21 VanessaE try minetest-classic 17:22 Amaz Right. 17:22 VanessaE it compiles fine with modern compilers 17:22 Amaz I can complie that. 17:22 VanessaE and it's basically 0.3.x with extra stuff added 17:22 stormchaser3000 VanessaE: minetest-classic is now voxelands 17:22 VanessaE wat 17:22 * Amaz wants earlier version though 17:22 Amaz *versions 17:22 VanessaE stormchaser3000: it is? http://www.minetest-classic.com/ 17:23 VanessaE this looks like the current release to me 17:23 sfan5 fling: your probably need to find the code that finds a mod and modify it 17:23 stormchaser3000 VanessaE: just a sec 17:23 Krock an older minetest version with much speed ups and fixed would be cool 17:24 Krock pseudo old 17:24 VanessaE darkrose's last commit to her gitorious repo was back in May though 17:24 VanessaE ah here we go 17:24 VanessaE good call, stormchaser3000 17:24 twoelk wierd, every time I join another channel I rejoin all channels I have allready joined. 17:25 VanessaE https://gitorious.org/minetest-classic --> "VOxelands" 17:25 stormchaser3000 Vanessae: yep lol i was just about to post the commit 17:25 VanessaE s/O/o/ 17:26 stormchaser3000 so how to compile 0.2.x with the latest gcc compiler? 17:26 VanessaE don't. 17:26 VanessaE just let it die already. 17:26 stormchaser3000 XD 17:26 Krock such nostalgy 17:26 stormchaser3000 but i was to use an older version 17:26 VanessaE if you want 0.2.x, play Nostalgia-game on 0.4.x 17:26 stormchaser3000 i am using a dell latitude d610 for now for 1 17:27 twoelk eh, sfan5, things seem to get a little heated on meowtest 17:27 VanessaE with the latest commits to 0.4.x, it's as fast as 0.2.x was as long as you're not using nodeboxes (and nostalgia doesn't, afaik) 17:27 stormchaser3000 and for 2 would be nice to play for historical purposes 17:27 VanessaE faster, even 17:27 fling sfan5: this is what I'm doing 17:28 fling sfan5: but I can't find it anywhere 17:28 stormchaser3000 oh well time to compile an old commit on minetest-classic 17:32 sfan5 twoelk: hm? 17:32 Calinou nostalgia is even older than 0.2.x 17:32 Calinou stormchaser3000, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4120 17:32 Calinou try this 17:33 Jordach tl;dr i've been getting the sky colour in my renders wrongh 17:34 zat thats wrongh 17:35 stormchaser3000 Calinou: yeah that is a nice texture pack bust still 17:36 Calinou enough for me :P 17:45 sfan5 twoelk: saw he note I left you? 17:46 twoelk ja, danke :-) 17:46 twoelk no selfprotect? 17:46 sfan5 no 17:46 sfan5 I plan on adding protect nodes like in landrush 17:47 twoelk I like sokomine's markers, simply becaus they make use of apples 17:53 Calinou this is for sfan5: http://la-vache-libre.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/cat-map-2.png 17:54 sfan5 twoelk: if you need a bigger protected area just ping me on IRC 17:54 sfan5 Calinou: I don't have a cat ~~~ 17:54 twoelk ok 17:55 PenguinDad sfan5: Change "I know where your cat lives" to "I know where you live" ;) 18:02 sfan5 twoelk: planst du da noch einen keller drunter zu bauen? 18:03 twoelk naja, irgendwo muessen die steine ja herkommen ;_) 18:03 Exio is that brainfuck with letters instead of symbols? 18:04 twoelk eigentlich wollte ich schon etwa zu einer sete verdoppeln - als ich hier nolch alleine war 18:05 PenguinDad Exio: that's a brainfuck dialect called deutsch :P 18:05 Exio that explains all! 18:08 sfan5 Exio: s/all/everything/ 18:09 Exio k 18:23 luizrpgluiz hi 18:29 eugd hello? 18:29 eugd ah good not muted 18:29 eugd any devs on here? 18:29 eugd or anyone? 18:29 sfan5 there are 122 people here 18:29 Calinou eugd, don't ask to ask, just ask 18:29 eugd I had a few questions about the code 18:29 sfan5 you likely want to go to #minetest-dev for that 18:30 eugd anyone know more about the nature of the current world gen limit, where it exists in the code? 18:30 eugd sfan5 i'm on webchat 18:30 Calinou eugd, mapgen crashes if it goes too far, same for collision detectiob 18:30 sfan5 get an IRC cleitn 18:30 eugd which is muted on #mintest-dev 18:30 sfan5 client* 18:30 sfan5 eugd: signed short is the limit 18:30 eugd so is it somewhere in mapgen, not anything to do with database? 18:30 eugd ah thank you sfan5 18:31 sfan5 the limit is everywhere in the code 18:31 eugd yeah what i figured 18:31 Calinou one sec, let me find some patch 18:31 sfan5 database, mapgen, node handling routines 18:31 eugd how does minecraft do its 'infinite'? 18:31 sfan5 floats and signed int probably 18:31 Calinou eugd, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9183&p=149073#p149073 18:31 eugd i know it's really 30mil 18:31 Calinou signed, sfan5? there are negative coords 18:32 sfan5 Calinou: signed = with sign bit 18:32 eugd yeah Calinou i'm emugod from that threat 18:32 eugd *thread 18:32 sfan5 signed is from -32xxx <-> 32xxx, unsigned is from 0 to 65535 18:32 Calinou ah 18:32 sfan5 precisely: 18:32 Exio !c 2^15 18:32 MinetestBot 13 18:32 sfan5 !c (2**16) / 2 18:32 MinetestBot 32768.0 18:32 sfan5 ^ Calinou 18:32 eugd and the 6% gain you mentioned is really just from changing constant GENERATION_LIMIT from 31000 18:32 Exio sfan5, ... 18:32 Exio !c 2**15 18:32 MinetestBot 32768 18:32 Calinou eugd, this allows you to go further than 30912, but collision may hang the game at -32768 if you fall (no collision past that limit) 18:33 Krock !c 666^1337 18:33 MinetestBot 1955 18:33 Calinou would be nice if we had that 6 % gain by default 18:33 eugd yeah 18:33 sfan5 Calinou: the world is big enough already 18:33 eugd i agree sfan5 i'm just trying to learn to engine 18:33 eugd i want to try paramats slicing 18:33 sfan5 eugd: http://dev.minetest.net/Engine_structure 18:34 Calinou sfan5, we should strive for excellence 18:34 Calinou Minecraft recently got huge performance improvement 18:34 Krock +1 sfan5 18:34 Calinou let's catch up 18:34 eugd i think it could be done by changing mapsector size 18:34 sfan5 Calinou: performance != world size 18:34 Krock >performance improvement 18:34 Calinou never change mapblock size 18:34 eugd mapsectors are vertical slices, right? 18:34 Krock how'sthat possible in Java?? 18:34 Calinou it breaks all maps 18:34 eugd i've played with that Calinou 18:34 Calinou Krock, by improving occlusion 18:34 eugd I have questions about it as well 18:35 * Krock translates and wikipedias "occlusion" 18:35 eugd https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9786 18:35 eugd i think 10-node blocks would be better for gameplay reasons 18:35 eugd but yeah a huge (if easily accomplished) change 18:35 Calinou 10 sounds like crap 18:35 Calinou not a power of 2 is insane 18:35 Krock 8 is better 18:36 Calinou still breaks all maps 18:36 eugd yeah 18:36 Calinou 16 is good, there's nothing better 18:36 Krock 1 is best 18:36 eugd but then it's metric square 18:36 eugd i'm thinking of node subdivision idea 18:36 eugd i had 18:36 Calinou “Do a smaller cubes” here we go 18:36 eugd it could work with LOD 18:36 Calinou make player 4 times as big (eye height/collision radius), here you have your subdivided world. 18:36 Calinou but everything will be 4 × slower 18:36 Krock Krock, by improving occlusion 18:37 Krock possible in minetest? 18:37 Calinou we had 2 farmesh implementations, both were slow and inaccurate. LOD is unrealistic for a voxel game. 18:37 eugd mapsector is a vertical slice, right? 64k from top to bottom? 18:37 Calinou Krock, ask in -dev 18:37 eugd Calinou i mean subdivision level of detail 18:38 Calinou what do you want to do? 18:38 eugd https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9648 18:38 PilzAdam eugd, yes, it comes from an old way of storing worlds on disk 18:39 eugd PilzAdam thanks, am thinking if that could not factor into or facilitate https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9183&start=50#p147125 this idea 18:40 Krock first, add something to not save every generated mapblock 18:40 Krock then, add such a thing 18:41 eugd change to delta engine is beyond me 18:41 Calinou great, someone in the Freeminer thread has a Rainbow Dash avatr 18:41 Krock !c 2 ** 24 18:41 MinetestBot 16777216 18:41 Krock great, could be PenguinDad 18:41 Calinou Nocte 18:41 Calinou who's that? 18:42 PilzAdam eugd, I recently wrote my own little voxel engine, I could try this stuff out with it 18:42 PilzAdam I already thought about decoupling mapblockmesh and mapblocks 18:42 eugd voxel subdivision stuff? 18:42 Krock PilzAdam, is it pushished? 18:42 Krock *bli 18:42 PilzAdam one could play arround with mapblock size easier then 18:43 eugd it's trivial to change in curent minetest code 18:43 PilzAdam eugd, do you have a data model at hand how to store this? 18:43 eugd not sure if it's innefficient or what 18:43 eugd but it's a single constant in constants.h 18:43 eugd PilzAdam no, that's what i'm still thinking on 18:43 eugd i think 18:43 eugd a separate map for each subdivision level? 18:43 Krock u don't say? 18:44 PilzAdam maybe a tree-like structure? 18:44 PilzAdam where you can change nodes to "containers" at runtime 18:45 eugd i don't know about tree-like structure but yes changing subdivision LOD dynamically i think would be key 18:45 Calinou http://0fps.net/2012/01/14/an-analysis-of-minecraft-like-engines/ → is totally impossible to understand for me 18:45 eugd the concept is similar to octrees, as Inocudom pointed out 18:45 Calinou I'll never be a “good programmer”, lol 18:46 eugd ha, yeah, that link calinou just posted 18:46 eugd but i don't think octrees exactly would be the data structure of choice for it 18:46 Calinou nothing that breaks current maps will ever be merged 18:47 eugd i don't know enough of how the current available db work 18:47 Calinou this implies not using octrees 18:47 PilzAdam eugd, it would look something like this: 1 root node (the whole world); some child leaves (probably like mapblocks currently); subchilds of that are the current nodes 18:47 eugd yeah PilzAdam and that's basically an octree 18:47 eugd and it has problems 18:47 eugd i was thinking maybe more like 18:47 eugd each subdivision level having its own whole map 18:48 eugd but i don't know if that's possible 18:48 PilzAdam well, an octree is fixed to 8 childreen 18:48 PenguinDad Krock: that guy isn't me because I have zero-knowledge of javascript 18:48 * Krock must look at the FM forums.. 18:48 PilzAdam I was thinking about each node having its size definition stored dynamically 18:49 * Jordach is considering starting a MT server for IRC'ers 18:49 eugd does a map database require 'filler' data for all chunks, to create continuity 18:49 eugd is the question 18:49 Calinou Krock, tons of people with pony avatars, makes it worth looking at 18:49 Jordach how about RTFS 18:49 Calinou until you see xyz's 18:49 eugd *blocks, sorry 18:49 Calinou -+ 18:50 Krock Jordach, means? 18:50 Calinou Jordach, if so, make it use Carbone ;) 18:50 Jordach Read the Fucking Source 18:50 Krock :D 18:50 Jordach quick vote: Carbone or MTG 18:50 Calinou MTG is crap in comparison 18:50 Krock BASE 18:50 eugd if you force generation of two far disparate blocks, does the database need to create filler data between them? 18:50 Krock (bas-ically the old MTG with some changes) 18:51 PenguinDad data cement :D 18:51 eugd is the database actually arranged in a logical equivalent to map arrangement? i'd assume not 18:51 Krock eugd, get an IRC client and ask the ain the dev channel please. there you have a higher change for useful answers 18:51 PilzAdam eugd, in the dynamic tree structure I imagine: no 18:51 Krock *and ask that in 18:51 VanessaE regarding occlusion, hmmmm and RealBadAngel have been talking about that. 18:52 PilzAdam eugd, or are you talking about Minetest? 18:52 eugd about databases in general really 18:52 eugd i feel like this is probably what makes a database a database as opposed to a file 18:52 eugd like if you have two blocks far apart from each other, and nothing else, that database will be tiny, right? 18:53 Krock huh?? the main thing is, minetest runs. 18:53 PilzAdam eugd, yes 18:53 Calinou no, we need math! anatomically correct player models! smaller cubes! menger sponges! mese menger sponges! 18:54 * Calinou shrugs 18:54 eugd what's a menger sponge? 18:54 VanessaE Calinou: mese menger sponge.....new Carbone item? 18:54 Krock math 18:54 Calinou O_o 18:54 Calinou eugd, it's some fractal cube 18:54 VanessaE eugd: think sierpenski's triangle, but with 4 sides. in 3d. 18:54 eugd i'm reading the wiki, sorry 18:54 eugd i got it 18:54 Calinou http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menger%20sponge 18:55 eugd parodying my subdivision idea 18:55 Calinou kind of 18:55 eugd yeah Calinou that page lol 18:55 fling hmm hmmmm 18:55 Calinou VanessaE, I wanted to add sponges mod, but water constantly flew in, causing lag 18:55 VanessaE Calinou: seriously...that might be an interesting new item if you can find a use for it ;) 18:55 Calinou Wikipedia has a very nice render 18:56 eugd does minetest have old MC sponges (which i believe were recently reintroduced)? 18:56 VanessaE there is a sponge mod. 18:56 eugd would be a fun little mod to change the nodes model, if nothing else 18:56 eugd PilzAdam you here? 18:56 PilzAdam hm? 18:57 eugd to get back to what I was saying before, i think the way to do subdivision would be to have each subd level have its own db map 18:57 Calinou very laggy, water constantly tries to go back in 18:57 VanessaE Calinou: someone needs to just fucking fix the water reflow code once and for all 18:57 Calinou only efficient way is to have a sponge that replaces air with a block where liquids can't flow, but buildable_to so that players can replace 18:58 Calinou and have an ABM replace the dug nodes with that block where liquids can't flow on a regular basis 18:58 eugd there should be 'gas' type rather than 'air' 18:58 eugd gas/solid/liquid 18:58 PilzAdam eugd, dont you want to have an infinite amount of detail? 18:58 eugd PilzAdam not really 18:59 Calinou meh, stop making fun of them 18:59 eugd there is no 'infinite', of course 18:59 eugd I really think from 1m cubes you could only really go down probably just one level, that would be relevant at gameplay 19:00 eugd maybe two, and up one level (block is node) for terrain LOD purposes 19:04 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 19:04 * Jordach meows back 19:04 Calinou how do you manage block texturing (eg. grass side)? 19:04 sfan5 Jordach: do you remember out skyblock world? 19:04 Calinou liquids? 19:04 Calinou nodeboxes? 19:04 Jordach sfan5, ya 19:04 Calinou lighting? 19:05 sfan5 <3 Jordach 19:05 eugd Calinou talking to who? 19:05 Jordach tl;dr i don't remember Xubuntu's login not looking like shit 19:05 Jordach Xubunu looks amazing 19:05 Calinou you 19:05 Calinou Jordach, 14.04 has a revamped login screen 19:05 sfan5 ^ 19:05 eugd only vague idea about liquids 19:05 * sfan5 would love to use xfce right now 19:05 eugd at subd levels 19:06 sfan5 but mouse pointer be insible 19:06 sfan5 invisible 19:06 * sfan5 currently uses LXDE 19:06 Jordach sfan5, i'll wait until the next release 19:06 Jordach simply because they'll have APU drivers 19:06 eugd i think each subd level would have to have its own block types 19:06 eugd only usable there 19:07 eugd and i kind of imagine the subd level would be solid color textures 19:08 eugd the subd only is generated in special circumstances, is the #1 thing 19:08 eugd there is definitively a 'normal' level 19:09 eugd which would be just like normal 19:09 * Krock is testing HEXAHEDRA and wonders why the settings menu doesn't show up 19:09 eugd like normal minetest, rendering and logic wise 19:09 VanessaE meanwhile, xubuntu *still* hasn't figured out how to give a full graphical splash from POST to desktop if you have a proprietary drive in use. 19:10 VanessaE driver* 19:11 eugd oh and nodeboxes wouldn't exist 19:11 eugd they'd be subd 'statues' 19:11 VanessaE no nodeboxes? 19:11 * VanessaE collapses 19:11 eugd that was the whole real idea behind it 19:11 Calinou you don't build all things by hand 19:11 VanessaE *twitch* 19:11 eugd project tables 19:11 * shadowzone hands VanessaE a cookie 19:11 eugd make it once and then fill hopper with raw materials 19:11 shadowzone that'll help you stop twitching. 19:11 eugd pull out as many as you need 19:11 * VanessaE puts the cookie in OldCoder's kitten pile (they need fed) 19:12 eugd maybe i'm using wrong terminology, 'nodebox' means sub-1m model/collision nodes, right? 19:14 MinetestBot LemonLake: 07-21 15:27 UTC test 19:14 LemonLake !tell Krock screw you and your tests 19:14 MinetestBot LemonLake: I'll pass that on when Krock is around 19:15 Krock !tell LemonLake oke 19:15 MinetestBot Krock: 07-24 00:14 UTC screw you and your tests 19:15 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when LemonLake is around 19:15 LemonLake im quite around 19:15 MinetestBot LemonLake: 07-24 00:14 UTC oke 19:15 LemonLake dudes... 19:15 MinetestBot LemonLake: 07-24 00:14 UTC oke 19:15 LemonLake hexchat no save servlist.conf 19:15 LemonLake its like 'no we no do' 19:21 pitriss Hi please, did anyone tried to do online backups of world by connecting to that sqlite3 db, locking it as read only a do backup? 19:21 markv changing ZNC playback to 2000 lines was a bad idea 19:21 markv (Hi everyone!) 19:21 markv pitriss, No, it corrupts the whole world 19:21 Calinou eugd, a nodebox is a pre-defined static model, made of cuboids, with a suited collision box and selection box (the selection box may be different) 19:22 eugd yeah 19:22 eugd that's basically what i'm thinking could be replaced with subd, for interesting gameplay 19:22 eugd and for eventual VAEs as well 19:23 pitriss markv: how it can corrupt world? when it is read only then it should be in consistent state and all changes should be commited after unlocking.. 19:24 markv I guess if you can make it read only it'll be fine 19:24 markv There's no way to do that iirc 19:24 markv LevelDB doesn't have this problem 19:25 pitriss markv: sqlite3 supports locks.. it should be doable.. 19:29 playzooki h 19:29 playzooki *hi 19:30 playzooki anybody know where i can find unified dyes? ive searched the forum and cant find it 19:30 sfan5 pitriss: yes you can do that, it won't corrupt anything 19:30 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=28399 19:30 VanessaE playzooki: ^^^^ 19:30 playzooki thanks 19:30 pitriss sfan5: thank you:) 19:30 markv "I don't always make sense, but when I do I don't" 19:30 VanessaE btw, haven't seen you around in a while :) 19:33 luizrpgluiz because minetest runs better on linux? 19:35 markv luizrpgluiz, everything runs better on linux 19:35 markv Except wine 19:35 eugd markv very true 19:35 eugd 'everything that does run runs better' 19:35 markv Half Life 2 is better on windows tho 19:35 eugd tf2 better on linux 19:35 werwerwer i heard someone got better FPS in minetest on windows cause directX 19:35 pitriss markv: most funny thing is that rdp (MS thingy) is muuuch faster on linux :D 19:35 eugd same fps with lighting locked on 19:36 markv rdp 19:36 Calinou Direct3D means no shaders on Minetest 19:36 markv Remote Desktop thingy? 19:36 Calinou Remote Desktop Protocol 19:36 Calinou not thingy ;) 19:36 werwerwer yeah, thingy would be RDT 19:38 PenguinDad let's develop Indirect4D! 19:38 luizrpgluiz There, the minetest ta mute in 0.4.10 and 0.4.9 in this standard 19:49 luizrpgluiz There, the minetest ta mute in 0.4.10 and 0.4.9 in this standard 19:50 Krock huh 19:50 OldCoder Yo 19:51 OldCoder VanessaE, my kittens receive the finest in kitty kuisine 19:51 VanessaE luizrpgluiz: sorry, that doesn't make any sense. please try again. 19:52 Jordach okay, does anyone want a small friendly IRC users only server 19:52 * Amaz would like it 19:52 Krock if it uses my mapgen :P 19:52 Amaz What game? 19:52 Krock (or game) 19:52 Jordach Amaz, either carbone or MTG 19:52 Amaz BFD? ;) 19:52 Amaz Okay. 19:52 Krock BASEplzplzplz 19:52 Amaz Carbone would be better, imo 19:53 Jordach (i *am* thinking of a easy mode version) 19:53 luizrpgluiz minetest in 0.4.10 is muted 19:53 PenguinDad I'd vote for carbone too 19:53 VanessaE luizrpgluiz: make sure you have OpenAL installed 19:54 luizrpgluiz yes 19:54 luizrpgluiz but 0.4.9 is with sound 19:54 VanessaE maybe a broken build? 19:54 Krock 0.4.10-dev works fine for me. getting lound TNT sounds 19:54 VanessaE wait a sec here. 19:55 VanessaE sound works fine for me, luizrpgluiz 19:56 VanessaE (using a very recent git pull, post-0.4.10) 19:57 LemonLake oops 19:57 LemonLake i accidentally ate the souls of a few thousand children 19:57 LemonLake oh well 19:59 PenguinDad Now I know of which guy this Nocte reminds me :/ 19:59 sfan5 Jordach: minetest game with mg? 20:01 Jordach sfan5, hmmm 20:02 Jordach *powers up the VM 20:03 Jordach VanessaE, btw, xubuntu does have a boot animation 20:03 VanessaE yeah but half the time it doesn't work, if you're using a proprietary driver 20:03 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ImXOyxZBPqpC.png 20:03 Jordach VMWare VMs don't have special drivers 20:03 VanessaE exactly. 20:03 VanessaE I'm talking about e.g. fglrx 20:04 Jordach ew 20:04 VanessaE install that and most systems will lose the startup splash 20:04 Jordach still don't have APU based Radeon HD 20:04 Jordach support 20:04 Calinou proprietary drivers break native-resolution framebuffers, thus breaking graphical bootscreen 20:04 Calinou (thanks Plymouth) 20:04 Jordach (hopefully by the next release it should have them, alleiviating my black screens) 20:04 VanessaE Calinou: exactly. 20:04 Calinou there are hacks, but the easy fix is to use a free driver 20:04 SylvieLorxu >Running a server on Xubuntu in VMWare on Windows 20:05 Calinou I disable graphiacl boot anyway 20:05 SylvieLorxu I think I just died a little inside... 20:05 Jordach SylvieLorxu, fyi, i want the IRC mod to actually work 20:05 * Calinou revives SylvieLorxu's little inside 20:06 VanessaE SylvieLorxu: at least he's experimenting with Linux 20:06 Jordach VanessaE, i'm happy to run Linux, except my APU doesn't have good enough drivers 20:06 Exio http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2bgm0x/walls_you_hit_in_program_size/cj5d0x6 20:06 Jordach 14.04 black screens every 5 minuts 20:06 VanessaE Jordach: 6 months ago when someone said Linux you were like Windows or gtfo 20:06 Krock BSoD 20:06 luizrpgluiz Where do I find the download openal? 20:07 sfan5 Jordach: tried arch linux? 20:07 Jordach sfan5, fuck that noise to signal 20:07 sfan5 ??? 20:08 Jordach i may fuck with arch later 20:08 sfan5 yes please 20:08 Jordach (and VMWare allows me to export the VM as a real operating system) 20:08 sfan5 Jordach: don't fuck it too hard.. 20:09 sfan5 ;) 20:09 * Jordach grabs an iso 20:09 VanessaE guys, someone please help luizrpgluiz sort out his sound problem... 20:09 sfan5 you need to regenerate the boot stuff anyway if you want it as real os 20:09 Jordach luizrpgluiz, did you install OpenAL 20:09 Jordach (or is the system volume muted or lowered, often my case) 20:09 sfan5 luizrpgluiz: http://www.openal.org/creative-installers/oalinst.zip 20:10 sfan5 tfw 'openbox' uses 100% cpu 20:10 sfan5 wtf 20:10 Jordach sfan5, which one do i get 20:10 Jordach dual or x86_64 20:10 sfan5 one of those 20:10 sfan5 both work 20:10 PenguinDad tfw == to fucking work? 20:11 sfan5 the dual one will boot amd64 if your cpu supports it 20:11 sfan5 PenguinDad: that face when 20:11 Jordach >bootstrap 20:11 Jordach aha 20:11 Jordach there we go 20:11 Jordach testing Arch alongside Xubuntu :3 20:12 sfan5 Jordach: https://mediacru.sh/uOCwTYxB3OPR.mp4 20:12 sfan5 video of out skyblock map ^ 20:12 Jordach (and if i ever get around to it - i might actually make a base install list to set arch up each time i reinstall 20:12 sfan5 (watch quickly, until mediacrush finshed converting and overwrites it) 20:12 sfan5 our* 20:12 markv I just made a nice password management utility 20:13 markv Now to send the data back to a central server and distribute it 20:13 sfan5 markv: go away, nobody cares 20:13 sfan5 and thats not how you store passwords 20:13 markv from passlib.hash import sha256_crypt as crypt 20:13 markv Keep it shut 20:14 PenguinDad > sha256 20:14 markv yes 20:14 Krock add more salt! 20:14 sfan5 ^ 20:14 PenguinDad and pepper 20:14 VanessaE add pepper 20:14 VanessaE fek 20:14 Krock nina'd 20:14 Krock *j 20:14 Jordach TIL we had lavacooling sounds back in 0.4.7 20:14 VanessaE don't forget the garlic and onion powder 20:15 Jordach sfan5, already internally screaming about the bones in the lava source 20:15 markv Add some cyanide 20:15 sfan5 Jordach: :D 20:15 Krock eh. and at least: don't forget to put in the meat! 20:15 Jordach fuck this 20:15 Jordach let's go for round 2 20:15 Jordach sfan5, i'm not sure if we have a copy of the nodebreakers 20:16 Jordach or the compressors :) 20:16 sfan5 Jordach: I still have both 20:16 Jordach !tell ecutruin https://mediacru.sh/uOCwTYxB3OPR.mp4 20:16 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when ecutruin is around 20:16 Jordach sfan5, we should do this at the weekend 20:16 Jordach 48 hours of LogoSkyBlock with other users as spectators :) 20:16 sfan5 lol 20:16 sfan5 :D 20:17 Jordach and i may or may not make a twitch stream :) 20:17 sfan5 Jordach: more permanent link: http://meow.minetest.net/skyblock-video.mp4 20:17 Jordach bonus points for meow.minetest.net 20:17 Jordach i got jordach.minetest.net :3 20:17 sfan5 :3 20:18 Calinou -1 for .mp4 :( 20:18 Jordach i have talked to c55 about it being kept 20:18 sfan5 Calinou: vp8 a shit 20:18 Jordach provided i don't do anything dumb with it :) 20:18 sfan5 I have sfan5.minetest.net too 20:18 Jordach mew :34 20:18 fling sfan5: I have fixed it with a stupid hack: /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/mods -> /usr/share/games/minetest/mods 20:18 Calinou sfan5, vp9 then… 20:18 fling sfan5: just another symlink :P 20:19 Calinou really, whine at VP8, but it isn't patented crap 20:19 Jordach webm :3 20:19 * Jordach goes to make some coffee 20:19 Calinou webm is VP8 or VP9 ;) 20:19 Calinou it's a container 20:20 PenguinDad dirac :3 20:21 sfan5 Calinou: vp9 too slow 20:21 sfan5 fling: <3 symlinks 20:22 fling /usr/share/games/minetest/mods/factory/settings.txt -> /etc/minetest/mods/factory/settings.txt 20:22 * fling only likes this one ^ 20:22 sfan5 fling: you're very dedicated into forcing every program to put files where gentoo says they should be 20:22 fling I AM GENTOO 20:22 Jordach >gentoo 20:23 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 20:23 Jordach paranoid idiots and masochists 20:23 * Krock gives fling C: 20:23 * VanessaE hands fling a "Type-R" sticker and unrolls a few loops 20:23 Krock (smile) 20:23 fling haha :D 20:23 sfan5 VanessaE: -funroll-loops 20:23 VanessaE :D 20:24 * Jordach just goes: Dayum that's impressive 20:24 Jordach https://i.imgur.com/2aVR9Gh.png 20:24 Krock aagh 20:24 sfan5 mmm 20:24 sfan5 Jordach: the red is not intense enough 20:25 Krock once again, the white + on a red background is missing 20:25 sfan5 yay 20:25 sfan5 mediacrush finally processed the video https://mediacru.sh/uOCwTYxB3OPR 20:25 Krock (#5 doesn't count) 20:25 sfan5 Calinou: here, have your .webm https://cdn.mediacru.sh/uOCwTYxB3OPR.webm 20:26 Krock > 0.4.7 20:26 fling Why are all the fals rotated? 20:26 fling and also flipped 20:26 sfan5 Krock: a year ago 20:26 Krock ah 20:27 sfan5 Jordach: btw: I finally worked out how to record good videos 20:27 Jordach sfan5, by not fucking up? 20:27 sfan5 not really 20:27 Jordach why'd you think i make tests 20:27 sfan5 by doing 2 passes 20:28 fling sfan5: why do you need two passes? 20:28 fling sfan5: are you encoding to an exact size? 20:28 fling sfan5: why not to constant quality? 20:28 sfan5 1st time, 'ultrafast' preset, saved into ramdisk; 2nd time, 'slow' preset, saved on HDD 20:29 sfan5 fling: ^ 20:29 * fling is doing same thing 20:29 fling but also saving ultrafast to disk too 20:29 sfan5 fling: my HDD is not fast enough to save 50 fps ultrafast video 20:29 sfan5 I think at least 20:29 sfan5 lemme test 20:29 fling because even 480p producing 50Mbps with lossless :< 20:30 sfan5 crf 18 20:30 sfan5 ^ said to be visually lossless 20:30 Jordach sfan5, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Da9O9-Xxwnc7.png 20:30 sfan5 Jordach: press enter, jk; nice 20:30 VanessaE I always used huffyuv if I needed lossless + fast (uses a LOT of space though) 20:30 sfan5 VanessaE: tried ffv1? 20:30 fling sfan5: I'm using zfs on 6 disks so it is fast enough 20:30 VanessaE then transcode that to whatever format 20:30 VanessaE sfan5: it's been years 20:31 sfan5 fling: ffmpeg -f alsa -i pulse -f x11grab -r 60 -s 1920x1080 -i + -c:v libx264 -crf 18 -preset ultrafast -tune zerolatency -async 1 -c:a copy testrecord.mkv 20:31 sfan5 testing that now 20:31 fling why do you need 60 fps? 20:31 sfan5 hm right 20:31 VanessaE ffmpeg can do screen recording? O_o 20:31 sfan5 VanessaE: ofc 20:32 VanessaE didn't know that. 20:32 sfan5 fling: x264 does not even manage 55 fps, I'll lower it 20:33 Calinou 30 fps recording is pretty much enough for a game 20:33 fling VanessaE: I'm streaming to justin -> http://bpaste.net/show/492090/ 20:33 sfan5 ew mp3 20:33 sfan5 fling: can't you use aac too? 20:33 fling and writing to a file same time 20:33 fling sfan5: idk? 20:34 fling btw this example is missing audio source so don't forget to add it if you need :P 20:34 fling ohhhh 20:35 fling no, it is there -> -f s16le -ac 2 -ar 44100 -i /tmp/mpd2ffmpeg1.fifo 20:35 Jordach fling, you mean twitch.tv (same service) 20:35 fling Jordach: idk? 20:36 Jordach OBS reports it as both 20:36 sfan5 fling: seems like my HDD is too slow for recording 20:36 fling sfan5: try 24fps 20:36 fling sfan5: try huffyuv btw 20:37 fling or fast preset instead of ultrafast 20:38 fling are you catpuring minetest? 20:38 fling try capturing minesweeper :D 20:38 sfan5 fling: yes 20:38 sfan5 the video is twice as fast and the audio ends after half of the recording 20:38 fling so you are converting fps somehow 20:39 fling sfan5: try setting -r 24 _before_ -f x11grab 20:39 sfan5 k 20:40 fling this is how I capture v4l device -> http://bpaste.net/show/492120/ 20:41 fling remove -tune zerolatency ! 20:44 sfan5 fling: it quickly drops below the fps I have set 20:44 sfan5 even when I set it to 30 20:44 sfan5 fling: why? 20:45 fling sfan5: use fast preset, try lower quality and remove zerolatency 20:45 fling sfan5: slow cpu and disk? 20:45 fling sfan5: add -threads 0 20:45 sfan5 threads 0 is the default 20:45 fling it will use all cpu cores for x264 encoding 20:45 sfan5 fast preset is even slower than ultrafast 20:45 sfan5 and I don't want to use lower quality 20:45 fling you need slower preset for slow disk 20:45 sfan5 and why remove zerolatency? 20:45 sfan5 uh 20:45 sfan5 no 20:46 fling because zerolatency will increase your bitrate 20:46 sfan5 the preset value specifies how long x264 will try to take to encode something 20:46 fling try '-tune film' instead 20:47 fling right and with slower preset it will give you lower bitrate which is needed for your slow disk 20:47 fling high bitrate is no go 20:47 sfan5 I'm not sure whether it will be able to encode 30 frames if it takes even longer 20:48 fling anyway use atop to determine what is the bottleneck actually 20:48 fling and start with -crf 50 ;D 20:49 Krock http://imgur.com/gallery/LdKd0l2 20:49 sfan5 fling: fast preset is too slow 20:50 fling increase crf, lower fps 20:50 fling try -crf 30 at 24fps? 20:51 fling how to get debug log on the server? 20:53 sfan5 fling: same result, the 'fast' preset is simply too slow 20:54 sfan5 crf 30 looks bad too 20:54 fling try ultrafast with crf 35 at 15fps? 20:54 sfan5 crf 35 20:54 sfan5 are you kidding me? 20:54 fling NO 20:54 sfan5 this is nowhere relevant anymore 20:54 fling you should start with working settings 20:54 fling then you increase crf 20:55 sfan5 decrease* 20:55 fling yes :> 20:55 fling and encode sound with something 20:55 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9810 20:56 sfan5 that works 20:56 sfan5 and looks fucking horrible 20:56 fling sure :> 20:57 fling sfan5: this is what I used -f x11grab -s 1920x1080 -r 24 -i :0.0 -vcodec libx264 -preset veryfast -crf 20 -maxrate 2000k -bufsize 3000k -threads 5 21:01 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfI18YIJsl4 21:02 * Jordach starts rofl 21:04 sfan5 Jordach: why is that so satifying to watch? 21:04 Jordach hearing someone who isn't english get more mad than me 21:04 Jordach (you should hear me playing TF2 with hoodedice) 21:05 * PenguinDad now starts to rofl 21:05 * sfan5 rofls too 21:06 Krock so viele rofelonen 21:09 * sfan5 meows at Krock 21:15 fling :D 21:15 markv Are there 1 letter tlds? 21:16 VanessaE not that I ever heard of 21:18 Calinou no 21:18 Calinou shortest is 2 letters 21:18 markv :( 21:19 markv Stops arguments I guess 21:19 markv What If i have my own dns servers? 21:19 markv On my network 21:19 Jordach with your own dns, that's possible 21:19 Jordach however, nobody else can use them 21:20 Krock .mt! 21:20 markv What if i *happen* to have access to one of the root nameservers? 21:20 markv https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10488092_935622919796642_2042257437750953857_n.jpg 21:25 VanessaE markv: then ICANN will want to have a talk with you. 21:26 markv # rm -rf /* --no-preserve-root 21:29 * markv waits for a loud knock at his door 21:35 * Jordach knocks on markv's door 21:35 * markv opens the door slowly 21:37 * markv dares people to /exec -o ls 21:40 markv Do you want to hear your fortune, Jordach ? 21:40 Jordach nah 21:40 markv You now have Asian Flu. 21:47 Jordach TIL Steam has a FUCKING MUSIC PLAYER IN CLIENT 21:47 Jordach brb updating steam 21:51 Jordach *unpins windows media player* 21:54 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/cMK_qKHu-wAr.png 21:55 * PenguinDad waits for a feature steam does not have 21:55 Jordach i trust Valve more than anyone else 21:55 Jordach praise Lord Gaben 21:56 PilzAdam Jordach, you cant trust the system 21:56 Jordach okay, don't need WMP: it uses my media keys 22:01 eugd Earth is 510.1 million km² 22:01 eugd that should be the goal 22:01 eugd in terms of world size 22:08 eugd i've been thinking about differences between minetest and minecraft, that might affect performance 22:08 Exio the whole universe is practically infinite 22:08 PilzAdam but Earth is boring 22:08 Exio that should be a goal, and let the world be curved 22:08 Exio also, change gravity 22:08 eugd and i think there might be something to be said about loading the entire chunks 22:08 Exio and make orbits 22:09 eugd of course loading entire 64k mapsectors wouldn't be possible 22:09 eugd but loading by vertical slice 22:09 Exio ?? 22:09 Exio do you want to load a "chunk" of 64k * 16 * 16? 22:09 eugd in terms of player experience, pop-in and such 22:09 eugd you couldn't, i just said 22:10 Exio then a vertical slice? 22:10 eugd but maybe some smaller arbitrary slice 22:10 Exio smaller arbitrary slice 22:10 Exio i wonder if that would be actually useful, compared to a chunk? 22:11 eugd just spitballing 22:12 eugd i think that extremely limited height is the major difference, and what makes minecraft possibly slightly superior performance-wise 22:13 eugd of course it's not desirable, but there might be some way to get the benefits without the downside 22:24 Jordach WAIT WHAT 22:24 Jordach Steam Music folder sorts!? 22:24 Jordach and then does tags!?? 22:51 Jordach stop the presses 22:51 Jordach I WAS RIGHT ABOUT RBA'S GLASS TANKS BEING SHIT! 22:51 Jordach https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1514 23:18 VanessaE Jordach: or...maybe there's just a glitch in the screwdriver mod? 23:18 Jordach VanessaE, knowing him he hardcoded shit again 23:19 VanessaE more likely is having forgotten to check if a node has some specific feature enabled 23:20 Jordach VanessaE, at least i don't fuck up that bad :3 23:20 VanessaE in the case of glass, param2 controls how much "stuff" is inside the glass. 23:21 VanessaE the screwdriver just needs a tweak to not change the param2 of something that has the glasslike-framed drawtype 23:21 VanessaE that's all. 23:21 VanessaE this is a bug in the screwdriver mod. 23:22 * VanessaE pokes RealBadAngel 23:55 alket where can I find minetest data ? 23:56 alket like textures etc. 23:58 Partmedia alket, texture packs? 23:58 alket Partmedia: yes :) 23:59 Partmedia alket, http://www.minetest.net/texturepacks 23:59 alket Partmedia: thanks :) 23:59 Partmedia (if you mean the default textures, see the respective mod folders)