Time  Nick          Message
00:21 LemonLake     you guys want something really interesting to read through?
00:21 LemonLake     http://www.google.com/design/spec/material-design/introduction.html
00:21 LemonLake     google's design ways never cease to impress me
01:05 SylvieLorxu   LemonLake: That is actually a very interestng read, so much important details for a designer to know
01:05 LemonLake     SylvieLorxu: indeed
01:11 LemonLake     hey fling
01:46 LemonLake     omg
01:46 LemonLake     it works
01:48 fling         LemonLake: hello :> what works?
01:48 LemonLake     my website
01:48 LemonLake     the tabs actually resize
01:49 * Exio        resizes LemonLake's tabs
01:50 Exio          also hi hi
01:51 Exio          λ-calculus ftw :D
01:51 LemonLake     http://lemonlake.nuclearstorm.net/#home
02:00 hoodedice     lambda calc?
02:01 fling         how to give a player a permission to turn on creative for herself but not to have it turned on by the default?
02:02 LemonLake     fling: use neutral gender
02:03 hoodedice     Hah Lemon
02:03 LemonLake     hoodedice: ?
02:03 hoodedice     "use neutral gender"
02:04 LemonLake     mhm
02:04 hoodedice     chide people once you've provided the solution
02:04 hoodedice     not before it
02:04 LemonLake     shh
02:04 LemonLake     i do what i want
02:04 * hoodedice   slaps LemonLake
02:05 * LemonLake   grabs hoodedice by the collar and throws them into a radiator
02:05 hoodedice     > he
02:05 hoodedice     you know my gender
02:05 hoodedice     no need to use neutral
02:05 LemonLake     [03:04:45] <LemonLake> shh
02:05 LemonLake     [03:04:47] <LemonLake> i do what i want
02:06 * hoodedice   grabs LemonLake by the collar and throws it into a radiator
02:06 LemonLake     interesting
02:06 hoodedice     In the end, fling learns nothing
02:06 LemonLake     this is irc
02:06 hoodedice     Is creativ even a priv?
02:06 hoodedice     !g minetest privs
02:06 LemonLake     while one person has a solution, everyone else either reads it without answering or mentions it and goes offtopic.
02:07 hoodedice     MinetestBot!
02:07 LemonLake     hoodedice: is not present
02:07 hoodedice     aw hell no!
02:08 hoodedice     I don't think there is a creative priv
02:09 Partmedia     hoodedice, yes there is :)
02:09 hoodedice     fling, you can use stuff like giveme and fly and fast to mimic a creative priv
02:26 * cheapie     notices this discussion
02:27 cheapie       I don't think the default inventory stuff has a "creative" priv, but I have a version that's been enhanced with it at github.com/cheapie/creative.
02:27 cheapie       Also, unified_inventory has it.
02:32 Hirato        good grief...
02:50 luizrpgluiz   hi
03:35 fling         cheapie: I have unified invertory
03:36 cheapie       fling: OK, so the creative priv /should/ exist, as long as it's a somewhat-recent version of it.
03:37 fling         cheapie: hanks
03:37 fling         s/h/th/
04:11 fling         some textures are not visible on one of client boxen
04:12 fling         how to fix this? ^
04:12 fling         I'm running technic game on the server
04:13 fling         not visible in invertory
04:13 fling         might be nvidia.ko related
04:13 fling         because working fine with nouveau on my box :>
04:46 fling         I'm running technic game and it has pipeworks builtin
04:46 fling         but I don't see a sorting pipe
05:42 fling         12:40:49: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ....minetest/games/technic/mods/default_tweaks/init.lua:58: attempt to call upvalue 'old_get_locked_chest_formspec' (a nil value)
05:42 fling         http://dpaste.com/17E46AQ
05:45 fling         lol
05:45 fling         happens when I open a chest
07:02 yaman         hello everyone
07:03 yaman         How would you make a node that is one thing, but when dug, drops something else?
07:10 yaman         can someone explain this for minetest.register_node
07:10 yaman         on dev.minetest.com i see drop — alternatively drop = { max_items = ..., items = { ... } }
08:17 Matsetes      Ehi! Anyone who knows the technic mod?
08:18 raffahacks    I do
08:19 Matsetes      I have updated it some time ago
08:19 Matsetes      And I found only now that tool workshop is now intended to use mv energy
08:19 Matsetes      Is it true?
08:20 raffahacks    Dk
08:21 Matsetes      And do you know how to craft solar panel?
08:21 raffahacks    Sorry
08:21 raffahacks    Always play creative :-)
08:21 ThatGraemeGuy Matsetes: tool workshop is MV, yes. And there's a #minetest-technic that's probably a better place
08:21 Matsetes      Thanks!
08:22 ThatGraemeGuy Matsetes: yw
08:54 OldCoder      sfan5 see PM
08:54 * OldCoder    is sleeping
09:05 yaman         hello everyone
09:05 yaman         i have a modding question
09:06 yaman         i have a block that i want to give the player an item when it is right clicked
09:11 sfan5         meow
09:11 sfan5         hi everyone
09:12 yaman         hello
09:12 yaman         can you help me with a modding question?
09:13 sfan5         yaman: use on_rightclick in the node definition
09:13 yaman         yes i know but inside what do i use to give the item
09:14 sfan5         clicker:get_inventory():add_item("main", "the:item 123")
09:15 yaman         thank you very much
09:15 yaman         also another one
09:15 yaman         how do i get a block do drop multiple items when dug
09:16 sfan5         see this line https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2329
09:17 sfan5         drop = { max_items = 999, items = { "item:1 1", "item:2 1" } }
09:17 sfan5         that should work
09:18 yaman         thanks sfan5
09:24 yaman         for the second question i mean multiple of the same thing also does the 1 mean how many?
09:28 yaman         i got this error when running this code http://pastebin.com/sYQh1AYc
09:31 Krock         moin
09:34 Krock         http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/sigImage.php?id=26603856860
10:12 Krock         MTB??
10:20 * sfan5       meows at Krock
10:20 Amaz          What is it you get now if you put a hoe on desert sand?
10:20 * Krock       meows at sfan5
10:20 Amaz          And is it meant to drop itself?
10:21 Krock         bug then.
10:22 sfan5         Amaz: file a bug please
10:22 Amaz          Okay. Pull request as well?
10:23 sfan5         Amaz: if you want
10:23 Amaz          Okay.
10:26 Amaz          Should I change the description from Desert Sand to Desert Sand Soil?
10:27 Krock         Amaz, it drops desert sand, right? so you can call it "(Hacker you!)"
10:28 Amaz          Okay! Just that hoed dirt has a proper description...
10:28 Krock         hacked dirt :D
10:29 Amaz          Soil and Wet Soil
10:29 sfan5         <Amaz> Should I change the description from Desert Sand to Desert Sand Soil?
10:29 sfan5         yes
10:30 Amaz          Okay.
10:30 Amaz          To what?
10:30 Amaz          Sorry.
10:30 Krock         "nd to Desert Sand Soil?"
10:30 Amaz          *headdesk*
10:31 Krock         object acceleration is funny :D
10:37 Amaz          https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/289 I think that is as it should be...
10:39 LemonLake     Strange.
10:39 LemonLake     HexChat was saving everything except the freenode settings.
10:39 BlockMen      sfan5, merge it, its a fix ^^
10:39 Amaz          It's in the right format and everything then?
10:49 * Jordach     meows at sfan5
10:49 * LemonLake   barks at Jordach
10:49 Jordach       rowr
10:49 * sfan5       meows at Jordach
10:50 Jordach       hey LemonLake, going to test a Minetest Server in a VM (to test how bad BFD can get concurrently)
10:50 LemonLake     Jordach: sounds good
10:51 Amaz          https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=10945 <-- Seems to be a spammer...
10:51 LemonLake     nah
10:51 LemonLake     totally a real dude
10:51 LemonLake     legit
10:51 Amaz          That sounds interesting Jordach.
10:51 LemonLake     "really nice and informative thread thanks for sharing this with us.
10:51 LemonLake     Lawn Fertilization Companies"
10:51 LemonLake     legit 100%
10:52 Amaz          :P
10:54 Jordach       https://mediacru.sh/6bd890eacbef
10:54 Jordach       fuck da po-lice
10:54 LemonLake     that's one slow compile
10:54 Jordach       LemonLake, -j2 (VM has two cores + 2gb of ram)
10:54 LemonLake     a
10:54 LemonLake     hh
10:55 Jordach       not going to overkill on a MT server :)
10:57 LemonLake     fuck it
10:57 LemonLake     gonna get a reset.css
10:57 * sfan5       meows at LemonLake
10:57 * sfan5       is a cat
10:57 * LemonLake   wants to be a cat
10:57 * sfan5       transfers his being-a-cat to LemonLake
10:58 * LemonLake   tries to meow
10:59 LemonLake     uhhh
10:59 * sfan5       meows at LemonLake
10:59 LemonLake     http://lemonlake.nuclearstorm.net/#home
10:59 * LemonLake   meows back at sfan5
10:59 LemonLake     i borked it
10:59 LemonLake     its all squished D:
11:00 * Amaz        likes the way it is navigated
11:00 LemonLake     i do too
11:01 LemonLake     (facepalm) ".p { }"
11:02 sfan5         LemonLake: loading that page takes ages
11:02 LemonLake     sfan5: i know
11:03 LemonLake     we're halfway through moving the apache to a linux machine
11:03 sfan5         >apache
11:03 sfan5         theres you problem
11:03 sfan5         use nginx
11:03 LemonLake     yeah
11:03 sfan5         or at least lighttpd
11:03 LemonLake     i'll speak to seth about it
11:04 sfan5         uh
11:04 sfan5         where is MinetestBot
11:05 Amaz          Dead. :(
11:05 LemonLake     dead for a while now, sfan5
11:05 sfan5         During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
11:05 sfan5         >,>
11:06 LemonLake     sfan5: bravo
11:06 LemonLake     that most likely is the problem
11:06 LemonLake     when seth is up, I'll talk to him about it
11:07 LemonLake     bye bitch
11:07 LemonLake     hi bitch
11:08 Jordach       :(
11:08 Jordach       !up jordach.minetest.net
11:08 MinetestBot   jordach.minetest.net:30000 seems to be down
11:08 Jordach       hm
11:08 LemonLake     cant join
11:09 Jordach       !up 86.165.127.84
11:09 MinetestBot   86.165.127.84:30000 seems to be down
11:09 Jordach       hm
11:10 sfan5         WAT
11:10 sfan5         input redirction does not work for some reason
11:10 Hirato        excepting exceptional exceptions
11:11 LemonLake     do you guys know the name of text where all characters are uppercase, but the actual uppercase leters are bigger?
11:11 Hirato        we call that a font >_>
11:11 LemonLake     yes, but what would you call the case?
11:11 LemonLake     it gotta have a name
11:11 sfan5         it does
11:12 LemonLake     sfan5: which is?
11:12 sfan5         i dunno
11:12 LemonLake     hmph
11:13 sfan5         !up minetest.org:30018
11:13 MinetestBot   sfan5: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
11:13 sfan5         lol
11:14 sfan5         !up minetest.org 30018
11:14 MinetestBot   minetest.org:30018 seems to be down
11:14 sfan5         I think I need to fix !up too
11:15 LemonLake     looking at a lot of typefaces they commonly have 'one' in them
11:15 LemonLake     for that type of case
11:15 LemonLake     though im pretty sure it has a proper name too
11:18 Jordach       TIL https://cdn.mediacru.sh/rdNblxLB0yTJ.png
11:18 LemonLake     what did you learn exactly?
11:18 LemonLake     also, +1 for BT
11:19 Jordach       Virtual Machines have their own IP space
11:19 LemonLake     they do indeed
11:19 Jordach       LemonLake, Fiber next year :)
11:19 LemonLake     you can change that in the vmware settings if you want
11:19 LemonLake     but it's wiser not to for security reasons
11:22 Jordach       [12:22:40] <MinetestBotClone> jordach.minetest.net:30000 is up (603ms)
11:22 Jordach       ^ LemonLake
11:22 Jordach       it's working!
11:23 LemonLake     I'm guessing you're on BFD
11:23 Jordach       yup
11:23 LemonLake     it's taking its time to dl :P
11:27 Jordach       https://cdn.mediacru.sh/8Pr1aWoXFu_R.png
11:31 Amaz          Seems to be another spammer: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=149134#p149134
11:34 sfan5         Amaz: gone
11:35 Amaz          Annihilated :)
11:47 Jordach       LemonLake, F5 -> RTT = 0.xxx
11:47 Jordach       going to da local McColls
11:47 VanessaE      good morning.
12:13 Jordach       LemonLake, "so any server you join it'll be applied"
12:14 LemonLake     sfan5: <VanessaE> "smallcaps" is often the word for this.
12:14 * Jordach     noticed why grass didn't work right
12:15 fling         !up mt0.dno.so
12:15 LemonLake     fling: mtb is dead
12:15 fling         LemonLake: Hello.
12:16 fling         RealBadAngel: Hey
12:16 Jordach       well shity
12:16 Jordach       https://cdn.mediacru.sh/6FBR_ldXgv15.png
12:17 Jordach       the item in question sits in the same room as me D:
12:17 LemonLake     lol
12:18 LemonLake     "font-variant:small-caps;"
12:23 Jordach       well, this makes it *hard* to fix
12:23 Jordach       https://cdn.mediacru.sh/WxBBJ4wMQvIs.png
12:26 sfan5         again?
12:26 Jordach       push and pull :3
12:37 sfan5         Jordach: ping
12:37 LemonLake     sfan5: redirected pong
12:37 sfan5         no u
12:40 LemonLake     sfan5: that
12:40 sfan5         huh?
12:40 LemonLake     is one of the coolest ways of saying 'no u' i've ever seen
12:40 LemonLake     situations to say in*
12:41 LemonLake     you actually made me laugh
12:41 LemonLake     well done
12:42 sfan5         <3 MinetestBot
12:42 MinetestBot   <3 sfan5
12:43 fling         !up mt0.dno.so
12:43 sfan5         MinetestBot?
12:43 MinetestBot   mt0.dno.so:30000 is up (13135ms)
12:43 sfan5         (13135ms)
12:43 sfan5         the timeout should be 2.5 secs
12:43 sfan5         hm
12:43 fling         !up mt3.dno.so
12:43 MinetestBot   mt3.dno.so:30000 is up (12280ms)
12:46 sfan5         !up mt0.dno.so
12:46 MinetestBot   mt0.dno.so:30000 is up (3150ms)
12:46 sfan5         seems to be just my vps
12:46 sfan5         zsh/2 1986 % ./mtup.py mt0.dno.so
12:46 sfan5         mt0.dno.so is up (0.05333s)
12:50 Matsetes      How can I change my skin?
12:50 fling         0.05333s omg so close
12:51 VanessaE      get a skins mod and use it
12:52 fling         Is there a mod for web map?
12:52 Matsetes      Ah, there is not a way to change the texture?
12:53 VanessaE      Matsetes: you can just replace character.png if you want
12:53 Matsetes      Ok, where can I find it?
12:54 VanessaE      minetest_game/mods/default/models/character.png
12:54 VanessaE      either use a mod for the purpose, or replace this file.
12:56 sfan5         fling: you mean a mod for an interactive map like dynmap for MC?
12:58 Matsetes      Thanks
12:59 fling         sfan5: yes :>
13:00 sfan5         https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia
13:00 sfan5         a bit outdated but works
13:03 fling         sfan5: do I just need to put more textures in there?
13:03 fling         sfan5: how is it connecting to the server?
13:03 sfan5         basically yes
13:03 sfan5         it works on the map itself
13:03 sfan5         no connection
13:10 fling         so it is not interactive
13:12 * fling       found this -> http://marktest.co.uk/2014/01/python-onomatopoeia-minetest-mapper/
13:13 sfan5         fling: if a 2D map suffices, you can use https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper which is more complete
13:17 fling         sfan5: will not you add isometric in future? :P
13:17 jp___         Onomatopoeia  can make isometric map.
13:17 fling         jp___: I see
13:17 sfan5         maybe
13:17 jp___         not minetest-mapper
13:17 fling         jp___: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2896
13:18 jp___         Already tested.
13:18 * Krock       wants a new minetestmapper.exe
13:22 * CWz         is tying Crevis that minetest fork that everybody hated according to  the author
13:22 LemonLake     CWz: what fork?
13:22 Krock         https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=9798
13:22 * Krock       slaps LemonLake with link above
13:23 LemonLake     oh
13:23 LemonLake     I read it wrong
13:23 CWz           what version is this based on?
13:23 Krock         no idea, didn't download it :P
13:24 LemonLake     testing now
13:25 LemonLake     have to test in wine, they don't have source
13:25 LemonLake     at least not that i can find
13:26 LemonLake     the font os horrible
13:26 jp___         sfan5 : if hte re-writting the MTS filter in C++,
13:26 LemonLake     base game is full of texture errors
13:26 jp___         damn
13:26 LemonLake     textures are inconsistent, some are even stock photos
13:27 LemonLake     it's reaaalylyy lagggyyyy
13:27 LemonLake     super verbose debugging
13:27 jp___         sfan5 : MCEdit must be re-written in C++ for run a C++ filter ?
13:27 sfan5         no
13:27 sfan5         you can call C(++) from python
13:27 LemonLake     what was the real reason people hated it tho?
13:28 sfan5         but that wouldn't make sense
13:28 sfan5         because the map backend of mcedit is python to
13:28 sfan5         too*
13:28 sfan5         LemonLake: screenshot pls
13:28 LemonLake     just closed it
13:28 LemonLake     playing with wine is a pain in the ass
13:28 sfan5         open again pls
13:28 VanessaE      so reopen it
13:28 VanessaE      now I wanna see it.
13:28 LemonLake     i caused it to crash loop
13:28 LemonLake     hold up :p
13:29 jp___         sfan5 : C++/Python filter -> same perfomance ?
13:29 sfan5         yes
13:29 jp___         On MCedit I meant...
13:29 jp___         Ok.
13:29 sfan5         the C++ would need to call to get the nodes
13:29 LemonLake     https://mediacru.sh/30M53Laa0zl4
13:32 LemonLake     https://cdn.mediacru.sh/DbhaMOMp8SeD.png
13:32 sfan5         wtf is that
13:32 LemonLake     a sheep
13:32 jp___         lol
13:32 LemonLake     "npcs" https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ELI6FuQHd7LN.png
13:33 LemonLake     also, the console is spammed with either something to do with mobs dropping into water, or 'Starting grass generation."
13:33 LemonLake     the npcs have actual trading which isn't that bad
13:34 LemonLake     rightclicking mobs just dumps information into console
13:34 LemonLake     this is obviously not a release build
13:34 sfan5         * 56b9377 - Dont crash if facedir > 23 (12 months ago)<PilzAdam>
13:34 sfan5         seems to be pretty old
13:35 Amaz          It does have diamonds and farming.
13:35 Amaz          But now, they were added over a year ago.
13:37 jp___         sfan : a .schematic file is a sort of database, right ?
13:38 sfan5         yes
13:39 jp___         http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/NBT_Format
13:39 Krock         seems to be a bug: http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/skins/1/385.png (on the skin generator or in the minetest model)
13:39 Krock         the feets' image should be mirrored
13:42 Krock         okay. only the front has this fail
13:47 Amaz          LemonLake, Where is the website for Crevis?
13:51 Jordach       Amaz - gone
13:51 Amaz          Or whatever "something big" niften is getting ready for.
13:53 Amaz          Jordach: Odd. In LemonLake's post, he(?) said "...And looking at your website, you're ready for something big..."
13:53 Amaz          (https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=149139#p149139)
13:53 LemonLake     Amaz: crevis.net
13:53 Amaz          Thanks!
13:54 Amaz          Seems odd.
13:55 LemonLake     Krock: are you basing your vacuum cleaner off of my vacuum in factory?
13:55 LemonLake     or is it going to be portable/
13:55 Krock         LemonLake, from scratch.
13:55 Krock         portable
13:55 LemonLake     well duh
13:55 LemonLake     you don't have the code
13:55 LemonLake     that actualyl sounds pretty cool
13:55 LemonLake     good luck
13:55 Krock         it's easy to do
13:56 fling         VanessaE: I have installed technic game and I can't find sorting pipe.
13:56 VanessaE      it's called a mese tube, or it was
13:56 VanessaE      however I don't know what technic game calls it or how up-to-date technic game's copy of pipeworks is
13:56 fling         VanessaE: is pipewors mod included in technic game outdated?
13:57 fling         ohh ok
13:57 VanessaE      if you need to, update your copy of pipeworks from the main repo at https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks
13:57 fling         VanessaE: is it a good idea to just use minimal game and install all the mods separately?
13:57 VanessaE      no
13:57 VanessaE      never use minimal at all
13:58 fling         what is wrong with minimal?
13:58 VanessaE      minimal is not a game.
13:58 LemonLake     its minimal
13:58 VanessaE      it's a development test platform only.
13:58 VanessaE      if you *must* build a system around a bunch of mods, build off of minetest_game.
13:59 Krock         what's the fastest way to get the maximal count of a item/node/tool?
14:00 fling         VanessaE: ok, thanks ;>
14:00 VanessaE      Krock: read the stack_max property of that item
14:00 fling         Is it possible to disable a mod loading from a game?
14:00 Krock         VanessaE: minetest.registered_...??
14:01 Krock         minetest.registered_items
14:01 VanessaE      Krock: minetest.registered_items["foo"].stack_max  I think
14:01 Krock         okay thanks
14:01 VanessaE      fling: configure it so in the world config menu
14:01 VanessaE      fling:  or just delete the mod from the game.
14:01 fling         VanessaE: tried but unified_invertory is still loading
14:02 fling         VanessaE: I don't want to modify installed files by hand, I'm doing packages here :>
14:02 VanessaE      fling: I'm not sure if you can disable it another way; why do you want to disable UI?
14:02 Amaz          I'm trying to compile this, https://github.com/mireq/minetest-mapper-cpp#usage How do I get an xxd binary? (Ubuntu)
14:03 fling         VanessaE: just an example… I wanted to get rid of creative :P
14:03 VanessaE      fling:  turn off creative mode in your main menu.
14:04 VanessaE      fling:  Main Menu -> Single Player tab, uncheck "[ ] Creative Mode".
14:04 VanessaE      then UI will only show you the inventory, for use in the craft guide, it won't let you take anything from it.
14:05 VanessaE      and make sure you don't have the creative privilege
14:08 Krock         stackRef:get_stack_max()
14:08 Krock         :)
14:08 VanessaE      that works too.
14:21 fling         VanessaE: the problem was I had 'name = fling' in world.mt
14:21 fling         VanessaE: I have removed it and I have no problem anymore
14:22 fling         VanessaE: and looks like it is not possible to disable mods included in a game the regular way
14:27 VanessaE      fling: the regular way to disable a mod in a game is to just delete the mod.
14:28 VanessaE      e.g. rm -rf minetest_game/mods/bones  or so
14:31 Krock         LemonLake
14:31 Krock         https://gist.github.com/SmallJoker/501c47ec511c14cb34a9
14:38 shadowzone    Hi.
14:38 LemonLake     Krock: nice
14:39 LemonLake     but isn't the radius pretty big?
14:39 LemonLake     also, why not just move them to the player position?
14:40 VanessaE      rubenwardy: idea for the texture tool for NBE:  export the sides of the nodebox project as textures that one can import into GIMP and subsequently re-paint with the actual, desired textures.  Each individual nodebox face on a given side would have a different color.  You could also export a "reference" image to go with them, e.g. showing which nodebox goes with which color.
14:40 Krock         LemonLake, it does.
14:40 LemonLake     Krock: no, it removes them and re-adds them at the player's position
14:40 LemonLake     it would be better to just move them
14:41 rubenwardy    Noted.
14:41 Krock         yes but then a check for invenory would needed all the tme
14:41 Krock         *time
14:41 VanessaE      rubenwardy: so say if you have a bunch of nodeboxes in a project and five of them are visible from the X+ side, then the X+ texture exported would have five rectangles on it in different colors.
14:41 VanessaE      I think that would be the easiest possible way to handle it, with minimal work from your part.  then the user just uses their favorite paint tool to handle actually making the textures.
14:41 rubenwardy    VanessaE: would it be okay to just save the exported textures as .png, and then allow the user to reimport them?
14:41 VanessaE      colors in the exported image should be bright and obvious
14:42 VanessaE      re-import them to where?
14:42 Krock         LemonLake, at least it puts them together to stacks
14:42 rubenwardy    into the editor
14:42 LemonLake     ahh
14:42 LemonLake     but the engine automatically does that
14:42 VanessaE      sure, as long as the textures can be edited in GIMP or so
14:42 rubenwardy    btw: The texture tool is where textures are assigned to sides, and the Paint Tool is where sides are painted on.
14:42 VanessaE      export, edit, re-import, repeat as desired
14:42 LemonLake     well, builtin item
14:42 Krock         LemonLake, only in a small range
14:43 LemonLake     But you're moving them all in the same place
14:43 LemonLake     so they'll stack anyway
14:43 VanessaE      rubenwardy: just trying to save some work on your part, because you know how gfx artists are - "why don't you add features X Y Z A B C to the paint tool?"
14:49 * VanessaE    thinks she caused rubenwardy to have a stroke :)
14:50 rubenwardy    XD
14:50 raffahacks    Hi
14:50 VanessaE      hi
14:51 raffahacks    Can i use minetest as an output for an lcd display
14:52 LemonLake     as an output?
14:53 raffahacks    Print minetest window on a lcd display on raspberry
14:53 Krock         minetest -> no
14:53 raffahacks    Does minetest support 480p?
14:53 Krock         some sorftare or tool -> maybe
14:54 Krock         minetest runs on mobile phones ...
14:54 raffahacks    Really?
14:54 Hirato        the way you phrased that first question makes it sound like you want a lcd_display block of sorts that displays something
14:55 raffahacks    Hirato: you're right :)
14:56 Hirato        minetest for desktop compositor
14:58 raffahacks    Does it work with 480p? On android it wants 720 i think
14:58 Hirato        I don't see why the main window couldn't scale down that much
14:59 VanessaE      rubenwardy: compile FAIL:  [ 88%] [ 94%] make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGL.so', needed by `bin/nodeboxeditor'.  Stop.
15:00 rubenwardy    what branch?
15:00 Hirato        you need to enable GLES or something
15:00 Hirato        I forget the flag
15:00 Hirato        it broke minetest on nvidia for a while :p
15:00 VanessaE      er...  I seem to be on the texture_project branch.  how'd I end up there?
15:00 rubenwardy    Either use master, or TextureTool branch :P
15:01 Hirato        oh.. not testing a mobile build for him? >_>
15:01 rubenwardy    master is latest stable, TextureTool is the development branch - definitely not stable, doesn't support 0.6 files yet.
15:01 sfan5         raffahacks: minetest works with any resolution, the question is whether it is usable
15:02 VanessaE      rubenwardy: that failure happens on the master branch also.
15:02 rubenwardy    hmmm
15:03 raffahacks    Is the actual minetest for android stable?
15:03 rubenwardy    Something wrong with your setup, try doing all the apt-get things again?
15:03 VanessaE      lemme re-clone first.
15:03 Hirato        might not perform very well, aside from that, I'm sure it's fine
15:04 VanessaE      there we go.  that got it
15:04 Sokomine      raffahacks: with too few ram (512 mb, android 4.2 or something), i had some problems. with more ram, it ran smoother. but in general it's stable. the tablet i used it on was an extremly cheap one; i'm surprised that cheap thing does anything at all :-)
15:05 Hirato        minetest runs pretty horridly on my desktop, can't imagine it on one of those pipsqueak phones
15:05 Sokomine      mt did perform better than expected on my android devices. it felt even smoother than on some old pc hardwaere. guess the android devices had better graphics capabilities...
15:06 Hirato        might be akin to my netbook, which I think gets about 5 FPS at view distance 15
15:06 PenguinDad    Hello everyone
15:06 Sokomine      oh, it works. the view range might be not that huge (maybe 20 blocks?), but it runs at a smooth 30 fps or so
15:07 Sokomine      at least if you use it to connect to a server. and for some reasons, vanessae's spawn did give me a lot of trouble. but that was changed recently i think
15:07 raffahacks    Does minetest download textures even if they are default? When i go in multiplayer it takes up to 15 minutes to download media
15:07 VanessaE      raffahacks: textures are always downloaded unless the client already has them in its cache
15:07 Hirato        it caches whatever it downloads, so they only get downloaded once
15:08 Hirato        but really, that is kind of lame <_<
15:08 Hirato        connect to server, go brew and drink 5 cups of tea, then come back as it's about to finish <_<
15:08 Calinou       Hirato, which CPU/graphics card/driver?
15:08 Hirato        desktop or netbook?
15:09 rubenwardy    does the client still download textures even if they are replaced by a local texture pack?
15:09 Calinou       desktop
15:09 PenguinDad    rubenwardy: seems so
15:09 Hirato        1090T/460GTX
15:10 Calinou       140-200 FPS here on ground, 630 FPS looking upwards, 330 downwards…
15:10 Calinou       the game is pretty CPU-limited here
15:10 Calinou       Hirato, what's your view range?
15:10 Calinou       make sure it isn't very high
15:10 Calinou       put that in minetest.conf:
15:10 Calinou       viewing_range_nodes_min = 100
15:10 Calinou       viewing_range_nodes_max = 100
15:10 Calinou       to have a fixed view range
15:10 Hirato        might not be a bad idea, but I like seeing far :(
15:11 Hirato        you guys should hurry up with that farmesh stuff :p
15:11 Calinou       100 is far enough
15:11 Calinou       Hirato, farmesh is slow, always
15:11 Calinou       both old and new implementation
15:11 Calinou       Hirato, here I can go up to view range 220 and still have 60 FPS
15:11 Calinou       but then I'm using 100 % of a CPU all the time
15:12 Calinou       so I keep view range to 100, I really don't need more than that
15:12 Calinou       disable fog maybe (F3)
15:12 Calinou       lets you see a tad further, for same performance
15:12 Calinou       surprising, my card's temperature doesn't increase much when disabling FPS limit, even with 600
15:13 Krock         Calinou, so much numbers... I just need to know numbers 1 - 6
15:13 Hirato        there's this game on steam called "Planet Explorers" that uses opencl for a lot of stuffies
15:13 Hirato        fully deformable world too
15:14 * sfan5       meows at Hirato
15:14 * Hirato      pets sfan5 and offers a fishy snack
15:14 * sfan5       noms the snack
15:15 Calinou       OpenCL in games? hello insane idea
15:15 Hirato        they did  it
15:15 * PenguinDad  meows at sfan5
15:16 * sfan5       is a cat
15:16 Hirato        I think they said they're using it for generating meshes or something
15:18 PenguinDad    Hirato: you mean this one? http://store.steampowered.com/app/237870/
15:19 Hirato        that's the one
15:19 Hirato        damn is it heavy on my GPU, haha
15:21 Hirato        you get to build your own things inside some sort of voxel editor
15:21 kizeren       What kind of video cards will allow around 100FPS on most games for a dual core AMD cpu?
15:21 VanessaE      kizeren: a really fucking fast one ;)
15:22 VanessaE      really, it depends on your game settings.
15:22 kizeren       Or should I ask, What would you all recommend?  Nvidia or Raedon?
15:22 VanessaE      I'm happy with my R9 280X.
15:22 Hirato        nvidia
15:22 Hirato        without hesitation
15:22 VanessaE      (which is AMD)
15:23 Hirato        whatever advantage AMD has in their hardware is moot to whatever advantage nvidia has in their driver
15:23 kizeren       My desktop does about 30fps on most games but on MT it drops to about 10fps...
15:23 VanessaE      kizeren: just wait.
15:23 kizeren       ?
15:23 VanessaE      kizeren: a lot of MT is CPU-bound.
15:23 VanessaE      a faster GPU won't help too much, past a certain point
15:23 VanessaE      but RBA has work he's doing to fix that
15:24 Hirato        I hope that means nuking fixed function ;p
15:24 kizeren       Is it the lua stuff causing so much taxaition on CPU?
15:24 VanessaE      kizeren: no.  think string operations in the rendering pipeline.
15:24 Hirato        it's linked against luajit, so not really
15:25 Hirato        unless the use of lua is super inefficient in a way to negate the bonuses from luajit
15:25 VanessaE      I wish #minetest-technic had a public log I could point you do
15:25 VanessaE      to*
15:25 Hirato        you don't log IRC?
15:25 VanessaE      Hirato: Lua doesn't have any effect on FPS really.
15:25 VanessaE      I log IRC yes
15:25 VanessaE      but it's not a public log like this channel is
15:25 Krock         VanessaE, it does. it controls mobs, which generate-Fps
15:25 Hirato        just pastebin some of it :P
15:25 kizeren       Seems like in the last month or so....the FPS bombed on MT.  So haven't played much.  Hoped that they wher ein the middle of some code optimization that broke things.
15:26 VanessaE      Krock: Lua doesn't, itself, affect fps.
15:26 Krock         yes
15:26 VanessaE      kizeren: in the past week, it has gone WAY up
15:26 Hirato        hmmm... yeah.... Lua seems to sort of run concurrently
15:26 VanessaE      Krock: entities affect FPS because they're badly coded.
15:26 Krock         VanessaE, don't say so, unless you can do it better :P
15:27 VanessaE      Lua moves entities around but that doesn't mean Lua is affecting fps.  it means the entities are.
15:27 Calinou       <VanessaE> Krock: entities affect FPS because they're badly coded.
15:27 Calinou       it depends of how many polygons they're made
15:27 Calinou       I can have 1000 rats and 35 FPS :p
15:27 kizeren       I know VanessaE's super extreme graphics pack cause like -100 billion FPS but other then that I though my video card was just crapping out.
15:27 Calinou       no server lag
15:27 Calinou       in a local game
15:27 Calinou       kizeren, I have much more FPS than before
15:27 VanessaE      Calinou: even a couple hundred static, non-moving simple 2-poly sign entities will drag fps down
15:27 VanessaE      that is bad coding,.
15:27 Calinou       before I had barely 100-120… now easily 160
15:28 Calinou       that's because you have too many different entities which use transparency
15:28 kizeren       Public build for Windows avaliable Calinou of the stuff your doing?
15:28 Calinou       <kizeren> What kind of video cards will allow around 100FPS on most games for a dual core AMD cpu?
15:28 Calinou       <VanessaE> kizeren: a really fucking fast one ;)
15:28 VanessaE      Calinou: nope.  it's the string combining operations used to create them, apparently.
15:28 Calinou       ehm, 750 Ti can do that I believe
15:29 Calinou       kizeren, no, my stuff is Lua
15:29 kizeren       ahh ok thanks.
15:29 Calinou       kizeren, oh, to have more than 100 FPS, you need good single thread performance
15:29 Calinou       unlikely on AMD to have that…
15:29 Exio          i would say minetest has a hard time abusing the gpu and leaving the cpu "alone"
15:29 PenguinDad    I didn't really notice any FPS change
15:29 Calinou       except if you reduce view range
15:30 Exio          Calinou, i have 100+ FPS with k-ish (50 iirc) view-range and shaders
15:30 Exio          but, do we really need "100" fps?
15:30 Calinou       <Hirato> you get to build your own things inside some sort of voxel editor
15:30 Calinou       meh
15:30 Hirato        if you want an example of a game that has a really badly done renderer, just look at starbound, barely any, uses up 2 cores fully, and only utilises the GPU 35% in its second lowest power state :p
15:30 Calinou       if you play a game just to build, play Tesseract
15:31 VanessaE      RBA found out why nodeboxes are so slow:  the nodebox strings/tables are interpreted nearly in realtime instead of being converted into irrlicht-suitable vectors at startup.
15:31 kizeren       Starbound is a resource hog like crazy.
15:31 Calinou       Exio, 50 is pretty short
15:31 Calinou       a good view range to me is 100
15:31 Exio          maybe it was more, 70
15:31 Calinou       VanessaE, people abuse nodeboxes a lot too
15:31 Hirato        100 is for chumps, 1000 is where it's at
15:31 Exio          i don't remember :/
15:31 Exio          Hirato, 10k is the way to go.
15:31 Hirato        cry of the 10 SPF
15:31 Exio          MPF*
15:32 VanessaE      Calinou: yeah but if I read that correctly, even a single nodebox (read: a plain cube) will be far slower than a cube drawtype with exactly the same properties, because ot that
15:32 VanessaE      of*
15:32 kizeren       My person reason for 100+fps.  Being able to watch movies while playing MT on a dual screen.
15:32 Hirato        er.... wat
15:32 Krock         kizeren, if it's a 3d-movie, it's a waste
15:32 kizeren       naaa plain dvd's
15:33 Exio          just telling you
15:33 VanessaE      what's wrong with 3d movies?
15:33 Exio          i can play "dvd-quality" movies with the VESA driver...
15:33 Krock         VanessaE, <kizeren>My person reason for 100+fps.  Being able to watch movies while playing MT on a dual screen.
15:33 Krock         you only have 2 eyes
15:33 Calinou       maybe 3 due to working at a nuclear plant
15:33 Exio          they're anything but expensive resource-wise
15:33 Krock         maybe even 1
15:33 kizeren       Yea I know Krock, just personal preferrence though.
15:33 Exio          lol Calinou
15:34 VanessaE      Krock: I have two screens also.  being able to run MT on one screen while doing something equally active on the other screen is sometimes useful.
15:34 Calinou       no space for 2 screens here
15:34 Krock         VanessaE, yes. but if you have an eye on each of them, you won't be able to watch 3d movies. that's my point
15:34 Exio          Krock, he could have an hdmi wire plugged to the TV and may want to use his computer for playing while letting people to watch a movie
15:34 VanessaE      Krock: in extreme cases, I have run as many as 25 Minetest clients at once.
15:34 Calinou       25 :o
15:34 VanessaE      Krock: in routine cases, 6 or 7 at once.
15:34 Calinou       my best is 3
15:34 VanessaE      Calinou: yeah, 25.
15:35 Krock         my best is 2
15:35 kizeren       Yep, Exio.  Let kids watch movie while I play games.
15:35 PenguinDad    my best is 5
15:35 Jordach       Calinou, going for an nVidia 750TI
15:35 * Krock       did a benchmark check today
15:35 VanessaE      (that's when I had an HD6870 video card with 1GB onboard, and the same 16GB of system RAM as now)
15:36 Exio          i have a gt610
15:36 VanessaE      normally, I run only 1 instance, sometimes 2.
15:36 Exio          anyone want it?
15:36 Exio          i'm selling it for 2USD
15:36 * Krock       does a roundhousekick with http://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/display.php?id=26603856860
15:36 VanessaE      while at the same time, my crypto mining app is running in the background.
15:36 PenguinDad    Krock: did you pass the mark? (silly passmark reference)
15:36 Exio          VanessaE, gpu or cpu mining?
15:36 Exio          VanessaE, how much doge do you haz btw? ;P
15:36 VanessaE      Exio: GPU mining, Pandacoin (PND)
15:36 Krock         PenguinDad, yes. I passed it...
15:36 Exio          pandacoin ahm
15:37 Krock         ''c test
15:37 HLuaBot       Unknown command "c". Try "help".
15:37 Krock         ''calc
15:37 HLuaBot       Unknown command "calc". Try "help".
15:37 PenguinDad    we all should be mining mesecoins
15:37 VanessaE      11.7M PND, not sure of the equivalence in doge.
15:37 kizeren       Oo wow. So many new server's to try now in the public list.
15:37 Krock         ''help
15:37 HLuaBot       Commands: reload, load, unload, plugins, op, deop, devoice, voice, join, part, help, uptime, echo, raw, eval, quit, more, ping, shutdown, config, tell -- Use 'help <command name>' to get help with a specific command.
15:37 Hirato        ''kill yourself
15:37 HLuaBot       Unknown command "kill". Try "help".
15:38 Krock         kizeren, and all have the *CDP virus
15:38 VanessaE      kizeren: yep, you should be playing on mine ;)
15:38 Hirato        must it //notice the channel?
15:38 kizeren       CDP?
15:38 Krock         ..
15:38 * PenguinDad  pets HLuaBot
15:38 kizeren       OO i see CDP.
15:38 kizeren       Never looked into what that stuff means.
15:38 Krock         * empty password C reative D amage P vP
15:38 VanessaE      ShadowNinja: ^^^^^^^ fix it :P
15:39 kizeren       Ooo realtest is Creative now...
15:39 Krock         ^^^^ with my fix
15:39 kizeren       :P
15:39 VanessaE      (or whoever's maintaining the master list)
15:39 PilzAdam      whos that bot?
15:39 VanessaE      PilzAdam: I think Nate runs it?
15:39 PilzAdam      did he speak to channel operator?
15:39 VanessaE      PilzAdam: it's a replacement for ShadowBot, but why it's in this channel idk.
15:40 VanessaE      no wait..  it's not his... it's.. damn it who runs it
15:40 PenguinDad    PilzAdam: it's ShadowNinja's bot afaik
15:40 VanessaE      it is?
15:40 Exio          [HLuaBot] (~LuaBot@cpe-67-241-154-164.buffalo.res.rr.com): ShadowNinja's Lua IRC bot
15:40 VanessaE      oh.
15:40 VanessaE      heh
15:40 Krock         ''uptime
15:40 HLuaBot       Up 10d, 15:26:28
15:40 PenguinDad    ''lol
15:40 HLuaBot       Unknown command "lol". Try "help".
15:40 VanessaE      ok..  ShadowNinja ^^^^ fix the /notice thing too . :)
15:40 Exio          idle 255:25:59
15:40 Exio          lel
15:41 Jordach       "eval print(math.random(4))
15:41 kizeren       Not bad. RT server gives about 15fps.
15:41 Krock         ''give sfan5 <'((((-<
15:41 HLuaBot       Missing nested command closer.
15:41 Jordach       "eval print(math.random(4))"
15:41 VanessaE      kizeren: try Vanilla with latest git.  it will blow you away
15:41 Krock         Jordach, you need a monospace font
15:41 Jordach       meh
15:41 Jordach       monospace sucks
15:41 Krock         it's 2x single quote
15:41 PenguinDad    monospace is awesome
15:41 Jordach       "eval print(math.random(4))''
15:42 Krock         ''eval print(math.random(4))
15:42 HLuaBot       Insufficient privileges.
15:42 PenguinDad    Krock: only god can do this :P
15:42 sfan5         this channel is not for bot testing
15:43 kizeren       On windows 8.1 VanessaE.  No clue how to even do that stuff on windows. :)  My try my arch desktop in a bit.
15:43 kizeren       -my +might
15:44 VanessaE      sfan5: ^^^^^^ new build? :)
15:44 sfan5         y?
15:44 ShadowNinja   VanessaE: What needs fixing?
15:44 VanessaE      because kizeren needs one? ;)
15:45 kizeren       Actually, can MT be done under cygwin?
15:45 sfan5         VanessaE: is it not recent enough?
15:45 sfan5         kizeren: yes
15:45 sfan5         but that won't run under non-cygwin
15:45 kizeren       I am ok with that for testing.
15:45 kizeren       have to use ming for a correct no cygwin build right?
15:45 VanessaE      ShadowNinja: don't make the bot /notice the channel.  make it just..speak.  And the master list always passing *CDP to the public lists in the clients
15:46 ShadowNinja   Hirato: Yes, see RFC1459's section on the NOTiCE command.  It's designed specifically for this purpose.
15:46 ShadowNinja   VanessaE: It's intentional, to prevent bot loops.
15:46 Hirato        make it notice the guy who called hte command, we don't all need to see it
15:47 VanessaE      ok
15:47 PilzAdam      sfan5, you could have at least tried to understand it https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1509#issuecomment-49757511
15:47 ShadowNinja   Hirato: Channel commands are responded to in-channel, doing it otherwise would break showing people the output of a command.
15:48 sfan5         PilzAdam: this is a bug in your mod
15:48 Hirato        -_-
15:48 PilzAdam      sfan5, how could that be? it worked before 0.4.14
15:48 PilzAdam      *0.4.10
15:48 VanessaE      sfan5: with the old item_drop mod, dropping an item with 'q' usually causes it to just be deleted.
15:49 VanessaE      (or that was my experience)
15:49 VanessaE      use item_tweaks.  it works fine :)
15:49 sfan5         PilzAdam: ther might have been changes to when functions are called
15:50 sfan5         there*
15:52 kizeren       VanessaE, Error "Access Violation" when joining 30005 ??
15:52 VanessaE      wat
15:52 kizeren       Just what the client tells me.
15:52 VanessaE      that's usually some kind of memory error, totally client-side
15:53 kizeren       windows, could be anything. :)
15:53 Krock         kizeren, that's pointer error. try again 7 times
15:53 kizeren       Oo wow, 30 to 40+ FPS...
15:53 kizeren       lol @ Krock
15:54 VanessaE      forget your fps, look at the view range
15:54 VanessaE      well when it stops lagging.
15:54 VanessaE      wtf is going on with minetest_game that's causing this lag?
15:54 VanessaE      there we go.
15:55 VanessaE      isn't that view range insane now?
15:55 PenguinDad    Krock: http://somethingofthatilk.com/comics/2.jpg
15:55 sfan5         PilzAdam: you could at least tried to bisect what commit caused the bug
15:55 kizeren       View range.  Was that the R key?
15:55 VanessaE      kizeren: I mean the natural range, not the all-range mode
15:56 PilzAdam      sfan5, I dont really have time for this now
15:56 VanessaE      sfan5: most likely it would be the commit where RBA added the ability for the engine to auto-expire dropped items
15:56 sfan5         PilzAdam: then close the bug until you have some useful information
15:56 PilzAdam      wtf?
15:57 Calinou       17:57:20: ERROR[main]: ...linou/.minetest/games/carbone/mods/default/functions.lua:8: stack overflow
15:57 kizeren       Yes, the games does look diffferent as in far off blocks.  Stuff "appears" to look more clear now.
15:57 Calinou       oh, the function called itself
15:58 sfan5         Calinou: for maximum irony ask on stackoverflow.com why that happens
15:58 VanessaE      bbl
16:06 Krock         PenguinDad, oh :(
16:27 Calinou       surface acid, at the entrance of a cave
16:30 Calinou       new grass side/snow side and sounds in Carbone
16:37 hmmmm         woohoo
16:37 hmmmm         I'm at work right now
16:37 hmmmm         I'm also at home!
16:37 hmmmm         I'm at my home office
16:39 Krock         hello rubenwardy!
16:40 rubenwardy    Hi!
16:40 Calinou       will you whine at somebody today?
16:40 * Calinou     subsidiary question
16:44 rubenwardy    Me, or krock?
16:44 Calinou       no, hmmm
16:45 Krock         1m
16:45 Krock         +m
16:45 Jordach       Calinou, SURFACE ACID?!?!?!??!?!?!
17:15 LemonLake     guys
17:15 LemonLake     call me a crazyman
17:15 LemonLake     running 5 cpu miners all at once
17:21 rubenwardy    LemonLake: you are a crazyman
17:21 Monkeytoe     hello :)
17:23 Krock         hello :(
17:23 rubenwardy    Hi
17:26 PenguinDad    ): olleh
17:29 LemonLake     it's about to get worse
17:29 LemonLake     60 threads all mining at once
17:31 LemonLake     pfft
17:31 LemonLake     pc is just like 'yh watever'
17:33 paramat       in 0.4.10 stable nodeboxes have no faces shading when smooth lighting is off, is this a bug or normal? if normal why not? could this have been fixed by RBA's recent commit?
17:33 paramat       RealBadAngel ^
17:35 Calinou       test Git, not stable
17:40 Exio          LemonLake, wasting cpu power
17:50 Jordach       paramat, poke :3
17:54 sfan5         Jordach, poke :3
17:55 Jordach       :3
17:55 * sfan5       is a cat
17:55 VanessaE      back
17:56 paramat       ow
17:56 * PenguinDad  pets sfan5
17:57 paramat       yep it's time to compile latest version
17:57 sfan5         LemonLake: @your forum avatar: very kiss, much yuri, wow
17:57 * sfan5       purrs at PenguinDad
17:57 * LemonLake   meows at sfan5
17:58 * sfan5       is a cat
17:58 * LemonLake   is quite aware that sfan5 is a cat
17:59 * Sokomine    puts a glass of milk in front of sfan5
17:59 * sfan5       noms the milk
18:01 * Krock       give sfan5 antimilk
18:01 * sfan5       eats Krocks arm
18:01 Jordach       TL;DR might add cats into BFD as another Easter Egg
18:02 sfan5         Jordach: but easter = bunnies not cats
18:02 sfan5         >.>
18:02 Jordach       sfan5, easter cats :3
18:02 sfan5         :3
18:02 sfan5         meow
18:02 * Krock       has only one arm now.
18:02 * sfan5       meows at Krock
18:02 * Krock       eats sfan5's arm
18:02 * sfan5       is a cat
18:02 * sfan5       has no arms
18:03 * sfan5       sends Krock to /dev/null
18:03 Jordach       /msg +O #minetest *@*
18:03 Jordach       ^ OP RAVE
18:03 sfan5         uh
18:03 sfan5         no
18:03 * Krock       eats 25% of sfan5's legs
18:03 * sfan5       kills Krock
18:05 Jordach       D:
18:09 LemonLake     google is spying on my anime tastes
18:10 LemonLake     its recommending new anime to me :l
18:10 Jordach       sfan5, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/spJsSAwguow4.png
18:10 LemonLake     Jordach: is that wolverine?
18:10 Jordach       LemonLake, notice the lack of other objects
18:10 LemonLake     ah, single mesh player?
18:11 Jordach       https://cdn.mediacru.sh/38HTcaB4dCRW.png
18:11 LemonLake     awadafuq
18:11 LemonLake     so the second image is the prototype
18:12 LemonLake     where you modelled it with separate meshes, and the first one a single mesh?
18:12 Sokomine      jordach: cats would be great. we don't have a cat model yet
18:12 Jordach       LemonLake, i always start with a cube
18:12 LemonLake     Jordach: of course
18:12 LemonLake     +1 for Sokomine!
18:12 Jordach       oh and btw, i WORKED OUT CUBED WATER ;D
18:13 LemonLake     can see?
18:13 Sokomine      cubed water? isn't most mt water more or less cubed?
18:15 PenguinDad    !c "Water" ** 2
18:15 MinetestBot   TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for ** or pow(): 'str' and 'int'
18:16 PenguinDad    Jordach: how did you cube water?
18:18 Jordach       if i remember
18:22 Exio          !c "wat" * "wat"
18:22 MinetestBot   TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'str'
18:23 Krock         !c 'wat' * 'wat'
18:23 MinetestBot   TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'str'
18:23 Krock         !c 'wat' * 2
18:23 MinetestBot   'watwat'
18:24 PenguinDad    !c "Water" * 5
18:24 MinetestBot   'WaterWaterWaterWaterWater'
18:24 Amaz          !c 'watwver' *100
18:24 MinetestBot   'watwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatwverwatw
18:25 LemonLake     they're learning
18:25 Krock         yup
18:26 Krock         !c 'NY' + 'A' * 10 + 'N'
18:26 MinetestBot   'NYAAAAAAAAAAN'
18:26 VanessaE      22 July 2014, MinetestBot achieves sentience.
18:26 Krock         :D
18:27 PenguinDad    !c "p" + "lol" * 50
18:27 MinetestBot   'plollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollol'
18:28 Hunter2451    Anyone here?
18:28 Exio          !c "p" + "lo" * 15 + "l"
18:28 MinetestBot   'plololololololololololololololol'
18:28 Krock         nope. everything dead.
18:29 Hunter2451    so does minetest still get updates and such?
18:29 LemonLake     Hunter2451: of course
18:29 Amaz          !c 'My ' + 'name ' + 'is ' + 'MinetestBot! ' + 'And ' + 'I + 'am ' + 'GREAT!' * 10
18:29 MinetestBot   SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
18:29 Hunter2451    cool.
18:30 LemonLake     !c 'My ' + 'name ' + 'is ' + 'MinetestBot! ' + 'And ' + 'I ' + 'am ' + 'GREAT!' * 10
18:30 MinetestBot   'My name is MinetestBot! And I am GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!GREAT!'
18:30 PenguinDad    !c " ".join(list(random.choice(["we", "are", "all", "dead"]) for i in range(30)))
18:30 MinetestBot   'dead we dead we all all are dead dead are are are dead dead are dead are dead all dead dead dead are dead dead we we dead dead dead'
18:30 LemonLake     okay guys
18:30 LemonLake     this is harsh now
18:30 LemonLake     shh
18:32 Exio          !c lambda(x): x+x
18:32 MinetestBot   SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
18:32 Exio          how do you define and call a function
18:32 Exio          !py lambda(x): x+x
18:32 Exio          ?
18:32 sfan5         !c (lambda x: x*2)(5)
18:32 MinetestBot    10
18:32 sfan5         ^ Exio
18:33 Exio          neat
18:33 Exio          thanks!
18:33 Krock         !c (lambda x: x)(5)
18:33 MinetestBot     5
18:35 PenguinDad    !c (lambda asdf: asdf * asdf)(10)
18:35 MinetestBot   100
18:35 Hunter2451    I tried to start minetest and its telling me that I'm missing OpenAL32.dll... Did I forget to install something somewhere?
18:36 Amaz          XD
18:36 sfan5         Hunter2451: install OpenAL
18:36 sfan5         or try the mingw builds
18:37 LemonLake     sfan5: apparently the problem is just that it's on windows. when we tested it on linux, it loaded instantly. so we'll test again when the move is done, but we'll consider switching to nginx at a later date.
18:38 Krock         Hunter2451, MinGw builds(and my MSVC) do not contain this fail
18:38 Krock         other users also reported that
18:38 Hunter2451    Thanks.
18:39 PenguinDad    > server running on windows
18:40 Krock         +1
18:40 PenguinDad    this is clearly the fault
18:40 LemonLake     PenguinDad: yeah
18:40 LemonLake     we did have a lot of problems with it over time
18:41 LemonLake     and it's an old machine, been running a few years now
18:41 LemonLake     it's gone thorugh a looot :P
18:41 LemonLake     we're migrating to centos within the next few weeks so things should be swell :)
18:42 LemonLake     now the webserver is completely down :/ gonna have to test localhost
18:44 PilzAdam      Krock, PenguinDad, ##minetestbot
18:44 sfan5         LemonLake: >centos
18:44 Exio          !c (lambda f: (lambda x: f(x(x)))((lambda x: f(x(x))))) (lambda f: lambda x: x+1)
18:44 MinetestBot   RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded
18:44 Exio          oh true
18:44 Exio          strict language
18:45 LemonLake     im forbidden access to my own website :(
18:45 LemonLake     sfan5: something wrong?
18:46 sfan5         LemonLake: no
18:46 LemonLake     mk
18:46 Exio          !c lambda x: x+1
18:46 MinetestBot   <function <lambda> at 0x7fb0a26b5bf8>
18:50 Krock         PilzAdam, Y U no give Exio this highlight? :(
18:51 PilzAdam      I would never threaten Princess Exio!
18:51 Krock         :(
18:53 Calinou       PilzAdam, haha! the lag has been doubled!
18:53 Calinou       (this is totally for Krock :P)
18:53 Krock         lsg?
18:53 Krock         s/s/a/
18:54 Exio          wat
18:55 PenguinDad    taw
19:05 LemonLake     bitch plsss
19:05 LemonLake     i got it to work
19:10 jp___         Calinou : is there a easy way to enable only the peaceful mobs in Carbone ?
19:10 LemonLake     completely delete the scary ones
19:10 jp___         I meant... like on/off - true/false.
19:12 VanessaE      Sokomine: *poke*
19:12 Calinou       jp___, yes
19:12 Calinou       spawn_hostile_mobs = false
19:12 Calinou       in minetest.conf
19:13 Calinou       mobs never spawn in Creative mode BTW
19:13 jp___         Ok thx.
19:13 Calinou       this doesn't remove existing monsters and makes it possible to spawn them using /spawnentity and /give
19:13 Calinou       but they'll eventually despawn
19:13 jp___         I don't like these monsters... too odd.
19:14 jp___         Zombies would be better.
19:15 jp___         7 monsters for 2 peaceful mobs... disproportion !
19:16 luizrpgluiz   hi
19:17 jp___         Hello.
19:17 Calinou       zombiers are unoriginal stuff
19:17 Calinou       Carbone is about monsters mostly, it's not farming simulator 2015
19:18 jp___         Zombies are mythical monsters.
19:20 jp___         I'll make a real mobs with zombies & ghosts instead of this odd panoply.
19:20 jp___         real simple*
19:20 Krock         Calinou, oh noes! I thought it was!
19:27 VanessaE      bbl
19:32 nman3600      Could someone please move my mod from modding general (modname: flags, Link: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9801)
19:32 LemonLake     nman3600: nose
19:32 LemonLake     ears
19:32 LemonLake     toes
19:33 LemonLake     your title is incorrect
19:33 Krock         nman3600, there are someflags missing. please add them to move it later
19:33 LemonLake     it should be [Mod] Flags [v.1.0] [flags]
19:33 nman3600      It is.
19:34 LemonLake     It's not
19:34 nman3600      Do caps matter?
19:34 LemonLake     Yes.
19:34 nman3600      Serously?
19:34 LemonLake     Linux users exist, Niall.
19:34 LemonLake     If our folders have caps, we have to type them with caps.
19:35 LemonLake     Since you reference your modpath, people would name their folder Flags and get an error.
19:35 LemonLake     That's better.
19:35 nman3600      When will it be moveed?
19:36 LemonLake     how about no
19:36 PenguinDad    ^ Jordach
19:37 nman3600      Krock, For new flags you have to wait about a month.
19:37 Krock         y?
19:38 nman3600      Each update = monthly and they contain new flags.
19:38 nman3600      It's how I've decided it
19:38 nman3600      I only uploaded the mod this morning so I'm not updating now.
19:38 Krock         okay, today's the 22th
19:38 nman3600      15th of next month I will release the next update.
19:38 Krock         10 days
19:38 Krock         oh
19:39 LemonLake     Krock: what flag do you want?
19:39 nman3600      Or 10th
19:39 Krock         sitzerland!
19:39 LemonLake     okie dokie
19:39 Krock         +w
19:39 LemonLake     that one's easy because it's actually square :P
19:39 * PenguinDad  sits on sitzerland
19:40 Krock         :<
19:40 * sfan5       meows at Krock
19:40 PenguinDad    :E
19:40 * Krock       meows at sfan5
19:40 sfan5         fun fact: 153207 nodes have been modfied on my server (meowtest)
19:41 nman3600      Switzerland flag eh?
19:41 nman3600      Krock ^
19:41 Krock         no. sitzerland, to sitz on
19:42 nman3600      The swiss flag will be In the next update.
19:42 PenguinDad    lol I just read blank flag as blank flank
19:42 nman3600      Lol MLP Referance
19:43 * Krock       doesn't get it
19:43 Calinou       flank = the side of a pony
19:43 nman3600      :D
19:43 Jordach       PenguinDad, eh
19:45 PenguinDad    Jordach: nman3600 want this moved https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9801
19:46 Jordach       ah
19:47 nman3600      Halo!
19:47 PenguinDad    tvshow& MLP;
19:47 Halo          nman!
19:47 PenguinDad    ^ MLP Reference
19:50 nman3600      Krock, You will get a screenshot of the swiss flag In a min.
19:51 Jordach       moved very very slowly
19:51 Jordach       very slowly
19:51 nman3600      Ahh Thanks, Jordach.
19:54 Calinou       PenguinDad, I don't get that reference :P
19:54 nman3600      Anyone have a flag suggestion for my new flags mod?
19:56 nman3600      Calinou, Jordach, PenguinDad, Have a Flag suggestion for my mod?
19:57 PenguinDad    nman3600: flag of nepal maybe
19:57 nman3600      Is that a country, PenguinDad?
19:58 PenguinDad    nman3600: yes it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepal
20:00 Exio          ...
20:01 shadowzone    Hi.
20:02 PenguinDad    hi shadowzone
20:02 shadowzone    Hi PenguinDad.
20:03 shadowzone    I came to see if anyone was on.
20:03 shadowzone    And I am in the freenode neighborhood.
20:06 Calinou       flag of Equestria
20:06 Amaz          sfan5, Is your meowtest server public?
20:06 sfan5         Amaz: yes
20:07 shadowzone    HI Calinou, How are you doing?
20:07 nman3600      Calinou, Make me a flag of equestria teture and I'll add it.
20:07 Amaz          Does it appear on the public server list?
20:07 Amaz          Got it.
20:11 Amaz          Things seem to be a little, mad.
20:12 PenguinDad    Amaz: the creature spawning goes mad there a bit
20:12 Amaz          I meant the players as well...
20:13 Amaz          But the mobs are also mad.
20:15 Calinou       shadowzone, hi, fine
20:52 PenguinDad    !up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30007
20:52 MinetestBot   digitalaudioconcepts.com:30007 is up (98ms)
20:56 shadowzone    Which server is that?
20:57 luizrpgluiz   anyone here know how to make mods?
20:57 shadowzone    Me but not very well.
21:00 luizrpgluiz   which mod you've ever done?
21:00 shadowzone    I have only made one a girlygirl mod cause I am a girl.
21:01 shadowzone    I have to post it on GitHug yet.
21:01 luizrpgluiz   ^_^
21:01 shadowzone    *GitHub
21:01 luizrpgluiz   My English is bad, I use a translator because I'm Brazilian
21:02 shadowzone    Ok.
21:02 shadowzone    But I sorta know how to make mods.
21:02 luizrpgluiz   I do not know where do I start
21:03 shadowzone    well for me I go to the mods folder in .minetest/mods/<name of the mod you want to make>
21:03 shadowzone    Then make a folder called textures
21:07 Jordach       ok
21:07 Jordach       when did VanessaE get a dog
21:07 shadowzone    Jordach a While ago.
21:07 shadowzone    why?
21:07 Jordach       i just noticed
21:08 VanessaE      his name is Dandy.  Some kind of chihuahua mix says the local shelter (we brought him by to have him checked for presence of a 'chip', and to check for lost pet reports before taking him in)
21:09 shadowzone    VanessaE were there any?
21:09 VanessaE      nope.
21:09 VanessaE      no chip and no lost pet reports matching him
21:10 Jordach       pic for the interested https://cdn.mediacru.sh/E9qcB5pYvwwf.png (with redactions :3 )
21:10 VanessaE      you didn't have to blank out Abe's info :P
21:10 Jordach       VanessaE, courtesy :P
21:10 Jordach       i ain't *that* mean
21:11 VanessaE      he's very loving
21:11 shadowzone    VanessaE he is adorable.
21:11 VanessaE      and holy-shit-loud too :)
21:11 shadowzone    I betcha those little dogs tend to be.
21:12 Jordach       tl;dr i need to stop playing TF2 https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Psd-6raZ4QkP.png
21:12 Jordach       12 hours this week along
21:12 Jordach       alone*
21:12 shadowzone    Jordach yes you do..
21:12 VanessaE      jesus
21:13 Jordach       <- TF2 item worth is more than ~£140
21:13 Jordach       one of my weapons is £42 on the market :P
21:17 Krock         an other fork: https://github.com/SmallJoker/boost_cart
21:21 * Jordach     pokes VanessaE for the apt-get liner for LuaSocket
21:22 VanessaE      ow.
21:22 VanessaE      I don't remember it actually
21:22 Jordach       ShadowNinja, ^
21:22 VanessaE      but it should be mentioned in the IRC mod's readme
21:22 Jordach       it isn't
21:22 Jordach       only for arch
21:22 Jordach       and who the fuck uses arch
21:22 VanessaE      heh
21:22 VanessaE      actually...
21:23 VanessaE      https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1512
21:23 shadowzone    Not meh.
21:23 VanessaE      Microchip does. :)
21:23 * shadowzone  goes and downloads arch into a flash drive and tries it out.
21:23 VanessaE      shadowzone: don't.
21:23 VanessaE      just don't.
21:23 shadowzone    Ok.
21:24 VanessaE      only the patently insane use Arch ;)
21:24 shadowzone    ok I'd like to keep my sane.
21:24 * Jordach     wonders if ShadowNinja's HLuaBot is a Minetest instance
21:26 VanessaE      anyway, for me it would be lua-socket-dev
21:26 VanessaE      for debian, I compiled it from sources
21:26 VanessaE      I thinbk
21:26 VanessaE      think*
21:29 PenguinDad    Jordach: something for you https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/290
21:29 Calinou       <Jordach> 12 hours this week along
21:30 Calinou       you don't get items for > 10 hours a week
21:30 Jordach       PenguinDad, Calinou: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/23ho0h8aQanh.png
21:36 Calinou       lol
21:36 Calinou       Mousepad, lol
21:36 Jordach       i just noticed bullshit
21:36 Jordach       https://cdn.mediacru.sh/dHSDTWdlX7jv.png
21:36 PenguinDad    is this post-postmodern art?
21:36 Jordach       >7% cpu usage with a active VM with mobs and shitr
22:47 LemonLake     yo, can you guys help me make sense of this?
22:47 Exio          (define Y (λ(f)((λ(x)(f (x x)))(λ(x)(f (x x)))))) !
22:47 LemonLake     http://pastie.org/pastes/9413377/text
22:47 LemonLake     what exactly am i looking at for my cpu temperature here?
22:48 VanessaE      you're looking at either a fan that's in "cool n' quiet" mode, or a heat sink that needs fixed up, or a bad formula on your fan measurement.
22:48 LemonLake     VanessaE: i mean, what value is my cpu temperature?
22:49 LemonLake     and what do you mean? :o
22:49 VanessaE      well temp1 is probably the motherboard's thermistor under the CPU, "CPU temperature" is probably the CPU's own onboard thermometer
22:49 LemonLake     so +55.0C?
22:49 VanessaE      I'd go with the higher of the two
22:50 LemonLake     that's cooler than expected :o
22:50 VanessaE      why it's that hot to begin with is another question
22:50 LemonLake     im running 60 threads on minerd
22:50 LemonLake     that's why :P
22:50 VanessaE      don't bother CPU mining.
22:50 VanessaE      it's a waste of power.
22:50 VanessaE      use your GPU or buy an ASIC of some sot.
22:50 VanessaE      sort*
22:50 LemonLake     well I can't get my GPU to mine properly the majority of the time
22:50 VanessaE      and don't run so many threads
22:50 LemonLake     it lasts for a week from a factory install before it breaks beyond repair unless factory install
22:51 VanessaE      you're wasting resources there, too
22:51 VanessaE      just run #cores + 2
22:51 LemonLake     i'm not using my pc :p
22:51 Jordach       OH SHIT
22:51 Jordach       http://paste.debian.net/111100/
22:51 VanessaE      Jordach: old bug, already fixed I think
22:52 Jordach       ehm, latest git here
22:52 LemonLake     VanessaE: #cores + 2?
22:52 VanessaE      https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1423
22:52 VanessaE      LemonLake: yes.
22:52 LemonLake     oh i see
22:52 VanessaE      however many cores you have in the machine, that number + 2
22:52 LemonLake     let's compare
22:52 VanessaE      so 6 cores, 8 threads.
22:53 LemonLake     currently getting 60 khash/s, let's see how much with 6 threads
22:53 VanessaE      anything more is just spanking your OS scheduler which is wasting resources and lowering your hashrate
22:53 LemonLake     really? it made it higher for me
22:55 LemonLake     i wonder if i should let this mine overnight....
22:56 LemonLake     the sound of the fan would probably prevent me from sleeping, but then again, i've fell asleep numerous times while rendering at 2 in the morning
22:57 VanessaE      my three machines mine 24/7
22:57 VanessaE      (two using their GPUs, one using a handful of Gridseed orbs)
22:57 LemonLake     i only have the one machine, stop making me jealous >.<
22:58 LemonLake     with 6 threads, I'm getting 5 khash/s
22:58 LemonLake     no accepted shares yet
22:58 VanessaE      5 kH/s *per thread*
22:58 LemonLake     nope
22:58 LemonLake     total
22:58 VanessaE      strange.  minerd is usually pretty accurate about reporting its total hashrate
22:59 VanessaE      how many cores in this machine?
22:59 LemonLake       4
23:01 LemonLake     worker is no longer reporting as active :/
23:01 VanessaE      that can't be good :)
23:01 VanessaE      you bwoke it!
23:01 LemonLake     yep
23:02 LemonLake     hmm
23:02 LemonLake     i'll run it at a higher amount of threads for now but when i go to sleep i'll turn it down to like, 4, to conserve power
23:04 LemonLake     14khash/s, that's chill with me for now
23:06 Jordach       wat
23:06 Jordach       >subgame not found
23:06 Jordach       it fucking exists in the games dir
23:07 VanessaE      but is it the *right* games dir? :)
23:07 Jordach       yes it fucking is
23:07 LemonLake     calm down Jordach
23:07 VanessaE      whoa, watch out..  we got a badass here.
23:07 VanessaE      ;)
23:07 Jordach       https://cdn.mediacru.sh/TMV6cZl51DF7.png
23:08 * VanessaE    backs away slowly.
23:08 VanessaE      Jordach: check the game.conf
23:08 LemonLake     Jordach: wrong directory
23:08 LemonLake     wait, nope
23:08 LemonLake     i just cant read
23:08 LemonLake     ø.ø
23:09 Jordach       VanessaE, gameid is the folder name
23:09 VanessaE      Jordach: RUN_IN_PLACE ?
23:09 Jordach         1
23:09 VanessaE      hm
23:09 Jordach       and this is the latest commit from master
23:09 LemonLake     now that's weird
23:10 Jordach       VanessaE, compile yourself
23:10 Jordach       it was running earlier btw
23:11 VanessaE      ok, I will. :P
23:12 VanessaE      mind you, I call it with --gameid to start my servers
23:12 VanessaE      but I don't use RUN_IN_PLACE
23:12 LemonLake     what does it do if you dont run in place?
23:12 LemonLake     run from the directory you call the process?
23:12 Jordach       i never used it
23:13 Jordach       and --world world doesn't detect a subgame either
23:14 LemonLake     jordach
23:14 LemonLake     ls the games folder, pls
23:14 LemonLake     and screenshot
23:14 VanessaE      Jordach: works for me, at least with R_I_P=0 anyway
23:14 Jordach       VanessaE, try without
23:14 LemonLake     you shall not rest in peace
23:15 Jordach       https://cdn.mediacru.sh/PCogTk-8bfAM.png
23:15 LemonLake     okay, now im really confused
23:15 VanessaE      ok trying with =1
23:16 Jordach       https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Nj0FAnvsP_g0.png
23:16 Jordach       SOMETHING is broken
23:16 LemonLake     Jordach: works for me
23:17 LemonLake     Jordach: do you have some weird characters in the world file?
23:17 Jordach       no
23:17 LemonLake     check
23:17 VanessaE      Jordach: works for me.
23:18 Jordach       VanessaE, this is strange
23:18 Jordach       https://cdn.mediacru.sh/L7AF40la2m88.png
23:18 LemonLake     Jordach: it worked earlier no?
23:18 Jordach       LemonLake, it did
23:18 LemonLake     what have you done since then?
23:18 VanessaE      only errors I get are for a mod I uninstalled from this world earlier (I copied the whole world folder over) and a warning that I called for a game that's different from what the world wants
23:19 VanessaE      (dreambuilder_game versus just dreambuilder)
23:19 SylvieLorxu   Jordach: >Xubuntu
23:19 SylvieLorxu   That's your problem
23:19 VanessaE      but it finds it without problems in minetest_core/games
23:19 SylvieLorxu   You should obviously install Gentoo
23:19 VanessaE      SylvieLorxu: I use Xubuntu.
23:19 LemonLake     ^
23:19 VanessaE      FAIL.
23:19 Jordach       LemonLake, removed the other folders that are part of minetest
23:19 LemonLake     Jordach: what folders?
23:19 Jordach       leaving games and worlds behind
23:19 SylvieLorxu   VanessaE: Jordach linked the image :P
23:19 LemonLake     hm
23:19 LemonLake     and then recompiled?
23:20 * VanessaE    restores her usual settings now.
23:20 Jordach       LemonLake, yes
23:20 Jordach       removed all folders bar those two
23:20 LemonLake     that really is strange
23:20 Jordach       (it's almost if it's hardcoded to minetest_game)
23:20 LemonLake     remove bfd completely
23:20 LemonLake     and add it again
23:20 VanessaE      Jordach: like I said, it's working fine with and without run-in-place.
23:21 * Jordach     make cleans and tries again
23:22 LemonLake     VanessaE: gonna try to get the cgminer working
23:23 VanessaE      that's what I use to run my gridseeds.
23:23 LemonLake     could you show me your cmd to run it?
23:24 LemonLake     cmd/conf
23:25 VanessaE      see pm
23:25 LemonLake     din get pm
23:25 LemonLake     did get pm
23:25 Jordach       new git zip, new folder
23:27 Exio          zipWith
23:27 Exio          :D
23:29 Jordach       nope, same issue
23:29 Jordach       does not want to detect
23:30 Jordach       doesn't even want to find minimal
23:33 Jordach       dafuq
23:34 Jordach       creating a new terminal seems to have done it
23:34 LemonLake     maybe it was a permissions thing?
23:34 Jordach       nah
23:36 Jordach       VanessaE, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/4pBAvIQ3DCVa.png
23:36 Jordach       placing a chest causes add_node bugs
23:36 Jordach       which it shouldn't
23:37 Jordach       *ejects builtin_item*
23:39 Jordach       this appears to be broken https://cdn.mediacru.sh/4pBAvIQ3DCVa.png
23:39 Jordach       derp
23:39 Jordach       https://cdn.mediacru.sh/AYxgRG3sGtnT.png
23:40 paramat       "in 0.4.10 stable nodeboxes have no faces shading when smooth lighting is off [...] could this have been fixed by RBA's recent commit?" answer is yes, tested latest version
23:41 Jordach       hmmmmmmmmm, might have found it
23:41 Jordach       since RBA's commit for that facedir change
23:42 Jordach       the server doesn't like mods checking a node's param2 via minetest.get_node(pos).param2
23:42 VanessaE      Jordach: I have no trouble doing that in my code.
23:43 Jordach       VanessaE, strange
23:43 VanessaE      lots of my mods do stuff like node = minetest.get_node(pos); fdir = node.param2
23:43 VanessaE      (well, local on both)
23:43 Jordach       VanessaE, it doesn't work here
23:43 VanessaE      wfm :)
23:44 Jordach       i wonder if legacy_facedir_simple is busted
23:44 VanessaE      none of my mods use that old setting
23:44 Jordach       still in add_node
23:44 Jordach       with or without
23:46 Jordach       it's like add_node is broken
23:47 * Jordach     tries locally
23:48 Jordach       boom
23:48 Jordach       happens locally
23:48 shadowzone    Hi.
23:50 paramat       hmmmm, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-07-19#i_3822026
23:55 crazyR        VanessaE: would happen to know how i can lower the text on signs in the signlib of homedecor?
23:55 crazyR        *would you
23:57 LemonLake     im off
23:57 LemonLake     night
23:57 Jordach       GOTCHA YOU SUNS A BITCH
23:57 VanessaE      crazyR: space-enter
23:58 VanessaE      crazyR: as in press a space and then enter to force a blank line
23:58 * shadowzone  looks at VanessaE "Do you have a pepsi?"
23:58 VanessaE      shadowzone: I don't drink sugar water.
23:58 shadowzone    Oh ok.
23:58 Jordach       ahh
23:58 Jordach       hah
23:59 Jordach       thanks to the chests bugging out, i got free chests
23:59 crazyR        no i mean in the code. like ive modified the texture, but the text start verry slighly to high
23:59 crazyR        *too high
23:59 VanessaE      crazyR: OH, yeah, the tables at the start of the file
23:59 VanessaE      change the Y values in the corresponding table for your sign