Time Nick Message 00:11 paramat hi, thats cool! 00:13 * paramat is late night cooking in the UK 00:30 paramat hmmmm, because each tunnel is formed from the intersection of 2 'sheets' of 3D noise, the 3D noises can be switched to create differing mixes of 2D 'fissures' and 1D tunnels. 3 3D noises can create 4 underground 'biomes': 2 tunnel systems. 1 tunnel system, 1 fissure. 2 fissures. 3 fissures. 00:38 paramat i also find the tunnels don't need a lot of octaves to look good, the smallest octave's spread is 48 nodes, makes them rather smooth but i like that abstract form (i will now develop my mod with the biomes feature) 00:46 paramat it was good to find out that's how caves were done in mgv5 00:58 Zeno` speaking of which, is there an easy way to "visualise" the perlin noise that MT generates? 00:59 Zeno` I understand Perlin and Simplex noise (written the code for them myself several times) but it's still hard -- for me -- to visualise what MT is doing 01:00 Zeno` I use a dummy (RAM) database and replace air with stone, but maybe there's a better way 01:07 paramat i just write a quick fast generating lua mod 01:10 Zeno` and put stuff in the air? 01:10 Zeno` or just inspect it wherever things are generated? 01:15 paramat yes nodes in air or voids underground 01:16 paramat but now im usually able to visualise noises in my head, that is often the easiest way 02:23 WindHero VanessaE 02:24 VanessaE hi 02:24 WindHero Thanks for all the work you've done on HDX's support for CaveRealms 02:24 WindHero it looks marvelous :3 02:24 VanessaE no prob 02:24 * WindHero gives VanessaE a kitten in thanks 02:25 VanessaE aw :) 02:25 * VanessaE hugs and cuddles the kitten and puts it in OldCoder's pile 02:25 Zeno` I didn't get a kittie! 02:25 WindHero Zeno told me you spent a lot of time on the crystals and icicles in particular 02:25 WindHero oops 02:26 * WindHero gives Zeno` a kitten too 02:26 VanessaE grab one from the pile, Zeno` - it's always overflowing :) 02:26 Zeno` thanks. I don't like cats though 02:26 WindHero :o 02:26 VanessaE WindHero: the icicles weren't hard, but those glow crystals were a bitch :) 02:26 WindHero careful, words like those can get you kicked, Zeno 02:26 WindHero jk 02:26 WindHero I can imagine... 02:27 WindHero but I really like how they look now 02:27 WindHero even with just 16x16 textures the crystals were hard 02:27 WindHero crystals just aren't meant to be cubic :P 02:38 Dafull97 swag out 02:39 paramat since minetest has a 'cubic cosmology' i would expect at least some cubic crystals ;) 02:39 Dafull97 VanessaE, remember me? :P 02:40 VanessaE hi 02:40 VanessaE yes I remember you 02:40 Dafull97 been forever :) 02:40 * Zeno` carefully places the kitten back into the pile 02:43 Dafull97 CraigyDavi`, isn't it you that me and my cuz griefed your server? :? 02:44 Dafull97 sorry man if it was... i told you sorry already but i still feel bad 02:45 Dafull97 So question is mintest growing or staying the same? 02:49 WindHero growing 02:53 Dafull97 can you show me stats? 02:53 Dafull97 :D 02:54 WindHero hmm 02:54 WindHero I would have to do some searching to find those 02:56 ShadowNinja http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=Minetest 02:56 ShadowNinja Dafull97, WindHero: ^ 02:57 Dafull97 :) 02:58 ShadowNinja The release should bump that up a bit. 02:58 Dafull97 i see :) 02:58 WindHero that's pretty cool 02:58 ShadowNinja Nothing major though. Feel free to advertize. :-) 02:59 WindHero I certainly try 03:00 WindHero when I play Pokemon TCG with some friends 60 miles away, I test the waters with people who play video games 03:00 Dafull97 how to download on linux the easiest way? 03:01 ShadowNinja Dafull97: Your package manager. apt-get/pacman/yum/etc. 03:02 Nerotic yum lol 03:03 Dafull97 apt-get then 03:03 Dafull97 ok :P 03:05 Dafull97 are there "monsters" on Minetest i don't remember tgh 03:05 Dafull97 tbh* 03:06 WindHero not really 03:06 WindHero only with mods 03:06 WindHero PilzAdam's Simple Mobs or any of the million offshoots of it is a good place to start 03:06 WindHero (exaggeration for effect) 03:08 VanessaE there is in Nostalgia game als 03:08 VanessaE also 03:08 WindHero yeah, the 2D mobs 03:09 WindHero Dungeon Master, Oerkki, and rat 03:09 VanessaE yup 03:09 Nerotic I love Oerkki 03:09 Nerotic What does that name even mean? 03:09 Dafull97 oh ok 03:10 VanessaE good question, been wondering that myself 03:11 Nerotic I'll ask c55 whenever he becomes available. 03:11 Nerotic Hey Vanessa, how many people, do you think, use Dreambuilder? 03:12 VanessaE no clue 03:12 Nerotic *play not use 03:12 VanessaE not many though I guess 03:12 Nerotic I used to play it instead of regular minetest for a few months and then i decided to make my own subgame. 03:14 Nerotic Vanessa, assuming by your profile pic, you are an adult, so do you still have any of the old computers you had(if) as a kid? 03:14 VanessaE I still have my Commodore 128 on the desk to my left, and a C64 in the closet as well. 03:15 Nerotic I only have my Commodore 64. 03:15 Nerotic Where you ever one to connect to BBS's? 03:17 VanessaE yeah, years ago 03:17 Nerotic Ah, same. 03:18 Nerotic i still connect to some every now and then that are still up but nobody posts on the Bulletin anymore, so I read old messages 03:19 Zeno` I spent a LOT of time on BBSs hehe 03:20 Dafull97 waiting on My computer to update then update minetest then play :D 03:20 Nerotic bbl 03:28 kaeza DERP 03:28 kaeza trying to fix a bug where entries in the database were not found... only to find I was using the wrong DB file 03:29 * kaeza facepalms 03:29 WindHero :x 03:29 WindHero I've done worse :P 03:38 highrise9999 Hello. 03:39 highrise9999 I've been having some difficulties with connecting to servers. 03:41 Zeno` kaeza, in on_construct() for register_node can I undo the placement of the node, or is the node actually not placed? 03:43 highrise9999 From the main menu, when I enter a number into the address field, I receive the error message "[. . .]minetest/builtin/mainmenu.lua:515: attempt to index a nil value" 03:43 highrise9999 I took a look at the file, and it appears it has something to do with menu.favorites 03:44 highrise9999 In addition, when I check the public server list, minetest crashes within a few seconds. 03:44 highrise9999 If it helps, I'm running on Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit 04:31 WindHero that refers to celeron55 04:37 WindHero @DaFull: everyone got DC'd 04:37 WindHero because of some sort of network switch or other I don't understand :P 04:41 Dafull97 WindHero, netsplit where server got dc'd for a few seconds 04:41 Dafull97 which caused everyone to dc'd 04:57 hummeleBop Hello there! 05:04 Dafull97 Hello 07:13 nman3600 Hi 07:15 nman3600 Is 0.4.10 of minetest coming out soon? 07:16 nman3600 sfan5, Is it? 07:18 RealBadAngel next sunday 07:23 asl next sunday is 13 july? 07:25 RealBadAngel 6th 07:25 * Zeno` hopes RBA made Zeno`'s suggest minor fix 07:26 Zeno` it won't make a difference of course lol 07:26 RealBadAngel what fix? 07:26 Zeno` I can't even remember... something about if {} if {} vs. if {} else if {} 07:27 Zeno` oh 07:27 Zeno` in l-systems maybe, but not sure 07:27 Zeno` it wasn't particularly important 07:31 OldCoder Yo 07:31 OldCoder Who rang? 07:34 asl RealBadAngel: isn't 6th this sunday? 07:35 RealBadAngel next is the one to come, isnt it? 07:36 RealBadAngel in polish we dont call weekend to come "this" until it comes 07:36 RealBadAngel anyway, 6th is the date 07:45 VanessaE we call it "next weekend" when it's reasonably far away, even if less than 7 days 07:46 VanessaE and "this weekend" usually refers to that same weekend, but only if it's say 1-2 days away. 07:47 VanessaE ("this" is also used to refer to a preceding weekend, e.g. "this past weekend" would be Sat/Sun June 28/29) 07:49 VanessaE "this coming" may sometimes be used to differentiate a point in time less than 7 days away (weekend or not), from the same day a week later. 07:50 VanessaE and there you have it. American time/date codes in plain english. thus endeth this morning's lesson :) 07:53 RealBadAngel :) ok ok, 6th just 07:57 hoodedice Hey RealBadAngel, sup? 08:26 RealBadAngel hoodedice, not much, fixing some bugs as usual ;) 08:31 nore RealBadAngel, could you fix the faces shading bug? 08:48 RealBadAngel nore, prv 11:50 MinetestBot GIT: arsdragonfly commited to BlockMen/minetest_next: Don't create bones if the player's inventory is empty f4594af 2014-07-01T13:48:03+02:00 http://git.io/GKUs_g 11:50 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to BlockMen/minetest_next: Fix semitransparent pixel in bread's texture. 8a0d51b 2014-07-01T13:41:44+02:00 http://git.io/xkfSkw 11:50 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to BlockMen/minetest_next: Fix papyurs texture 1d8247e 2014-07-01T13:35:32+02:00 http://git.io/OyXfig 13:21 sfan5 meow 13:21 sfan5 hi everyone 13:23 VanessaE morning sfan5 :) 13:23 sfan5 :3 13:30 coagen my kid was playing mt yesterday in creative mode, figured out how to set trees on fire... :| 13:31 VanessaE oops 13:32 coagen I laughed but, something in me just doesn't feel good about that 13:32 sfan5 you can disable fire 13:32 coagen maybe I can show how to plant trees 13:33 coagen we've seen the saplings drop 13:33 coagen any idea how long a sapling takes to grow to tree ingame? 13:33 coagen sfan5: thats not a bad idea either heh 13:33 sfan5 any idea how long a sapling takes to grow to tree ingame? 13:33 sfan5 might take 15 seconds or 5 minutes 13:33 sfan5 pretty random 13:33 coagen thats what I thought 13:35 coagen kid also built the first lvl of a house, w/door yesterday too, so there are good things, i'm quite proud 13:35 sfan5 doors \o/ 13:45 PenguinDad I like how useless the addition of deepstone/bedrock is in carbone 13:53 CraigyDavi` Dafull97, yes that is correct 14:05 VanessaE bbl 15:00 nman3600 Hi 15:00 nman3600 In the mesecons mod does mese block work like redstone block from minecraft? 15:03 nman3600 :( it doesn't 15:06 LemonLake nope 15:06 LemonLake but i heard it doing a similar behaviour before 15:06 LemonLake you can make it do so with a simple change, or another mod 15:09 Krock hi 15:09 LemonLake is there a mesecons timer? 15:09 LemonLake so that it has a delay, and triggers everything around it one-by-one 15:09 Krock new Request.MoveTopic("base_game", "Modding General", "Minetest Games"); 15:12 LemonLake does anyone here like electro swing? 15:14 * Krock gives sfan5 his latesst message 15:14 * sfan5 meows 15:15 LemonLake sfan5: こんにちは 15:15 LemonLake do you have a japanese keyboard? 15:15 * Krock takes a whisk y 15:16 sfan5 LemonLake: はい！ 15:16 LemonLake lucky 15:16 LemonLake but this is pretty good: http://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/japanese.php 15:16 LemonLake I'm probably going to invest in one 15:17 sfan5 uh 15:17 asie i need to invest in learning the language 15:17 LemonLake its not as hard as it seems 15:17 asie also a thinkpad x200 keyboard replacement 15:17 sfan5 I don' have a hardware JP keyboard 15:17 LemonLake ah I see 15:17 sfan5 I use https://code.google.com/p/mozc/ 15:18 LemonLake okay, screw that, I'm getting mozc 15:18 LemonLake I overlooked that on my google for a japanese software keyboard :P 15:18 LemonLake was this made by google themselves? it has the same icon as the google's android japan keyboard 15:20 asie LemonLake: any tips? 15:20 asie also it is a fork 15:20 LemonLake no tips, but if you want to learn it I recommend getting an app called 'Memrise' 15:20 LemonLake the web version isn't as good but the app is really good in helping you learn the language as well as helping you remember it 15:24 LemonLake Guest91532: kashikoi... 15:25 LemonLake uwot 15:25 LemonLake what did i just do 15:25 Krock 5 posts rmain 15:25 Krock +a 15:25 Krock -a+e 15:26 LemonLake * WHOIS :This command could not be completed because it has been used recently, and is rate-limited. 15:26 LemonLake * [wut] End of WHOIS list. 15:26 LemonLake whiskers, your bot is having some issues 15:26 LemonLake is it okay? 15:28 asie LemonLake: forget about apps, i don't use a smartphone 15:29 asie and am not planning to 15:29 LemonLake well the web version is terrible 15:29 asie okay so that's out 15:29 LemonLake so, im out of tips 15:29 LemonLake ask sfan5 15:29 asie snyan5? 15:30 LemonLake スファン is probably the closest to sfan 15:30 LemonLake that's sufan 15:33 sfan5 LemonLake: hm? 15:34 LemonLake nothing 15:40 asie sfan5: i'm asking for tips as i finally want to start learning japanese as i have my summer vacation time now 15:40 asie and i don't want to waste the 61 days left 15:40 asie so i at least want to kickstart it 15:41 LemonLake sfan5: can you explain to me how to use mozc? 15:41 sfan5 space+tab 15:41 sfan5 type stuff 15:41 sfan5 it will make suggestions 15:41 sfan5 use up/down keys 15:41 LemonLake hmm 15:41 LemonLake nothing is going on 15:42 LemonLake oh, it wants a restart. 15:43 sfan5 asie: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/blog/2006/01/30/for-the-complete-beginner/ and https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QkKNc3AYP5sOv23FRjBoCs2dDzHN83BuT1T_aRU21t0 15:44 Krock ehm... how can I force to load a specific mod before all other? 15:47 LemonLake put it in depends 15:48 Krock depends ofwhat 15:49 LemonLake a mod that it doesnt depend on 15:49 Krock aha 15:53 markv Hi! 16:20 LemonLake sfan5: I can't start the mozc ibus 16:34 rubenwardy Hi all! 16:35 sfan5 LemonLake: which os? 16:36 LemonLake mint 16 16:36 LemonLake im looking into it now 16:43 Krock sfan5, MoveRequest.Retry(); 16:45 Krock !rev Lagerregal 16:45 MinetestBot lagerregaL 16:45 LemonLake I think I've got it. 16:45 Krock !rev rentner 16:45 MinetestBot rentner 16:46 Krock leohortetrohoel 16:47 Krock !rev leohortetrohoel 16:47 MinetestBot leohortetrohoel 16:47 LemonLake withcraft 16:47 LemonLake witchcraft 16:47 * sfan5 meows at LemonLake 16:48 LemonLake can I get the ibus icon to appear without having to restart? 16:48 sfan5 no 16:48 LemonLake bender 16:48 Nerotic flender 16:49 sfan5 LemonLake: ニャー https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_3jOam8IDem7.jpg 16:49 LemonLake かわいい 16:50 sfan5 LemonLake: 猫です！ 16:55 LemonLake Did a restart, still not appearing 16:57 * markv is calculating massive fucking ip ranges 16:58 markv about 20 /4 blocks and tons of /8 ones 16:58 Calinou か NEXUIZ 16:58 LemonLake this is nerving my nerves 16:58 markv 443 MB already 16:59 markv 800MB 16:59 markv Houston, we have 1Gig of text! 17:05 * markv loads a 3GB text file 17:06 sfan5 LemonLake: did you configure it to appear? 17:08 LemonLake it works now, yes 17:09 Amaz Krock, Windows build of https://github.com/Amaz1/minetest/tree/gsmapper-uptodate please? (If you feel like it...) Just gsmapper updated to the latest minetest git. 17:09 Krock k. 17:09 Amaz Thanks! 17:13 Amaz (Knowing my luck, there will be a massive commit soon now!) 17:15 proller Amaz, can you fix all issues of mapper 17:15 proller ? 17:15 Amaz Nope. 17:16 Amaz Just bring it up to date. 17:16 LemonLake "connecting to an incompatible conversion engine please restart your comuter to enable mozc if this problem persists please bust a nut" 17:16 * Amaz doesn't know c/c++ 17:17 Calinou C# then 17:17 * Calinou runs 17:18 * Amaz doesn't use windows. Or know C# for that matter! 17:18 LemonLake I have restarted many a time. 17:20 Krock Amaz, are the fails which I posted fixed yet? 17:33 Krock nope 17:33 Krock not compileable in the current state 17:39 Amaz Krock, what do you mean? 17:39 Krock Amaz, compiling errors, see my post about the older build 17:39 Amaz Ah, right... 17:39 Amaz I though you built it though? 17:40 Krock errors can only be solved by fixing the stuff..so I did 17:40 Krock bugs expected 17:40 Amaz Okay. 17:40 Amaz I need to go for ~30 mins now... 17:41 Krock ok. when you have luck, it will be done then 17:52 Krock I hate cmake 17:52 Krock a typo and I must recompile everything again 17:55 Amaz Krock, should I just replace it with your fix? 17:56 Krock Amaz, let's see if my newer version works better than the old 17:56 Amaz Okay. 17:56 Krock using "myround(x - 0.5)" 17:56 Krock instead of floor 17:56 Amaz Right. 17:56 Amaz If it works, I'll add it to github. 17:56 Krock k 17:58 Amaz I'm not sure if you've seen Inoducom's request in your thread! 17:58 * Amaz only just saw it! 18:27 Amaz Any luck Krock? 18:27 Krock yes. after switching a byte from 1 to 0 I haev to recompile from scratch again 18:27 Krock *bit 18:27 Amaz Poor you... 18:27 Krock yeah 18:27 Amaz How long does it take to compile? 18:28 Krock 30 minutes (+/- 5 min) 18:28 Amaz Wow... 18:28 Krock you see how much I invest into MT 18:28 Amaz Thank you! 18:29 * Amaz won't complain about ~5 minute compiling times again! 18:29 Amaz Why isn't your thread a sticky? 18:29 Krock maybe because it wasn't the real Git when I released the first one 18:30 Amaz Okay. 18:30 Krock too much topics are sticky there 18:30 Amaz I suppose so... 18:30 Krock 4 posts remain 18:30 Amaz Could your one replace PlizAdam's? 18:31 Krock yeah. why not? 18:31 Krock good idea 18:31 Amaz Seeing as PlizAdam has stopped building for Windows... 18:31 Amaz 4 posts till what? 18:31 Krock 0x1EE7 18:32 Amaz Right! 18:33 * sfan5 meows at Krock 18:34 * Krock barks at sfan5 18:35 * Nerotic hisses at Krock 18:35 Krock aagh...gtfo freetype 18:35 Krock I disabled you! 18:35 * sfan5 flips Nerotic 18:35 * Nerotic smiles at sfan5 18:36 * sfan5 purrs 18:36 Krock "Compiling jsoncpp.cpp" omg what a nice world we life in 18:36 Amaz Nerotic, anything else added to your fork? 18:36 PenguinDad Krock: s/life/live/ 18:37 Nerotic Amaz; I haven't worked on it since the last time. Currently, I am trying to fix bugs for actual Minetest. 18:37 Krock li?e 18:37 Amaz Right. 18:38 Nerotic Amaz; after the update, I'll add a few mods in, maybe actually work on the core and compile it, so it's a bit better than it is now, and get rid of things I dislike. 18:38 Amaz Okay. Will you add it to github? 18:38 Nerotic Probably. 18:39 Amaz Great! 18:39 Nerotic Why do you want it on GitHub? 18:39 Krock bitbucket! 18:39 Nerotic <3 18:39 Krock 0xG00G1EC0DE 18:40 Amaz So it is eaiser to download, fork, ect. 18:42 Krock I need a stupid topic to post on 18:42 PenguinDad Krock: Word Story :P 18:42 Nerotic Is beds already added in Minetest Next? 18:43 Krock PenguinDad, too bad. already posted there 18:43 PenguinDad Nerotic: not at the moment 18:44 Nerotic Awesome, I will pull request and add the beds mod to Minetest Next 18:44 Nerotic Hopefully, itll be accepted. 18:44 Krock beds are useless in multiplayer 18:44 Nerotic I know. 18:44 Nerotic Same with Minecraft. 18:44 Krock (except when using as decoration) 18:44 Amaz Krock: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9655 ? 18:45 Amaz Seems stupid to me! 18:45 Krock hmm .. yeah 18:45 Amaz :P 18:46 Krock head's empy..need an other topic :/ 18:48 Nerotic I just need to add the textures and it'll be pull requested. 18:48 Krock game.cpp hmm.. that should be ~1/2 of the complete game 18:49 Amaz What do you mean? 18:49 Nerotic Anyone know how to upload images to Github? o.o 18:49 Nerotic without git, using the web interface 18:49 Krock Nerotic, imposs. 18:49 sfan5 Nerotic: drag them into the comment field... uh 18:49 sfan5 dunno 18:49 sfan5 probably not possible 18:49 Nerotic Thats what i thought 18:49 Krock git clients are useful compared to th web interface 18:49 Calinou posted Carbone's mob mod on forum 18:50 Calinou finally another mob mod :D 18:50 Nerotic My Git will not let me login for some reason :/ 18:50 Krock is YAMM still copyrighted? 18:50 Amaz Krock: Here? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9651 18:50 Krock Nerotic, change your pass to alphanumeric chars 18:50 Krock s/chars/things 18:50 PenguinDad Calinou: you can bomb away deepstone with tnt 18:51 Nerotic it already is Krock 18:51 Nerotic I will uninstall it and install it again, maybe itll work 18:51 Krock yeha 18:53 Nerotic still not allowing me, google time. 18:53 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9656 18:53 Calinou PenguinDad, not a bug 18:53 Calinou bedrock should be truly unreakable, deepstone is supposed to be breakable 18:53 Calinou but hard to break with normal tools 18:53 Calinou TNT isn't a normal tool :p 18:53 Calinou same for dig arrow 18:53 Calinou is YAMM still copyrighted? 18:54 Calinou YAMM? 18:54 Krock Yet Another Mob Mod 18:54 Calinou uh 18:54 Calinou anyway, I tested my mod in minetest_game, it works, you may want to set active_block_range = 1 18:54 Calinou for less spawns and better performance 18:55 PenguinDad Calinou: then bedrock is breakable with tnt 18:56 Calinou ah, should be fixed, but I have to go, bye 18:59 Amaz Krock, how is the compiling coming on? 18:59 Krock minetest.dir\Release\voxelalgorithms.obj /machine:X86 18:59 Krock it's merging them to minetet.exe 18:59 Krock latest step 18:59 Amaz Great :) 18:59 Nerotic Yeah I actually might compile today too 18:59 Amaz And do you get what this post means? 18:59 Amaz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8489&p=146849#p146849 18:59 Krock sfan5, wut? why? LINK : warning LNK4075: /INCREMENTAL wird aufgrund der Angabe von /LTCG ignoriet 19:00 Krock NOOOOO 19:00 Krock we lost against Argentinia 0:1 19:00 Nerotic For easier compiling, Id upload my copy to github, and run this: 19:00 Nerotic https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837 19:00 Nerotic changing the github URL's of course 19:08 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to BlockMen/minetest_next: Update only moving boats 06ef070 2014-07-01T21:04:59+02:00 http://git.io/xKTMvA 19:09 Krock Verstrichene Zeit 00:32:41.31 19:09 Nerotic bbl 19:13 Krock Amaz, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9515&p=146851#p146851 19:15 Amaz Krock, Great, thanks! 19:15 Krock np 19:21 * PenguinDad doesn't care about gsmapper at all 19:22 * Amaz does 19:22 * Krock gives PenguinDad http://i.imgur.com/rHDseEx.png 19:23 * sfan5 gives Krock https://mediacru.sh/_3jOam8IDem7 19:23 Krock MEOW 19:23 sfan5 no 19:23 sfan5 it's nyan! 19:23 PenguinDad nayn! 19:24 Jordach nyan 19:24 * sfan5 nyans at Jordach and curl up to his lap 19:25 * PenguinDad miaus at Krock 19:25 Krock so. good night. tomorrow is a long day 19:32 Amaz !up minetest.megaf.info 30001 19:32 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 seems to be down 19:32 Amaz :( 19:32 * sfan5 purrs at Amaz 19:32 * Amaz gives sfan5 a mouse 19:33 * sfan5 noms it 19:35 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001 19:35 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 seems to be down 19:35 Amaz What are bumpmaps for? 19:35 Megaf Amaz; actually its up 19:35 Megaf the minetest server list is down 19:35 Amaz Right! 19:36 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 19:36 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down 19:38 PenguinDad !up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30005 19:38 MinetestBot digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 is up (110ms) 19:57 Amaz Hi WindHero! 19:57 WindHero hey Amaz! 19:57 WindHero how goes it? 19:58 Amaz Fine thanks! 19:58 Amaz What about you? 19:58 WindHero good 19:58 WindHero gonna aim for CaveRealms v0.3 today 19:59 Amaz Awesome! 19:59 WindHero get rid of those chunk border cutoffs 19:59 WindHero provided it doesn't create too much generation lag 19:59 Amaz Okay! 20:00 WindHero what you up to 20:00 WindHero *? 20:18 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30001 20:18 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30001 seems to be down 20:18 Megaf That does not makes sense at all 20:18 Megaf !up digitalaudioconcepts.com 30005 20:18 MinetestBot digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 is up (98ms) 20:19 WindHero huh 20:23 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 20:23 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down 20:23 Megaf my servers are up and running 20:24 WindHero router troubles? 20:24 Megaf nope. servers.minetest.net is broken 20:25 Megaf ^ sfan5 20:25 WindHero ohhh 20:25 Megaf I just don't understand why it shows digitalaudioconcepts.com:30005 as up 20:25 sfan5 Megaf: [20:29] also: http://servers.minetest.net/ is broken 20:25 sfan5 in #minetest-dev almost 2 hours ago 20:26 sfan5 I can't fix it 20:26 sfan5 only xyz can 20:26 Megaf Yep, but it shows some servers as up 20:26 Megaf hows that? 20:26 sfan5 xyz hosts it 20:26 sfan5 and we can't change the DNS either.. 20:26 sfan5 >but it shows some servers as up 20:26 sfan5 wut 20:27 sfan5 if you load the web page it shown nothing at all 20:27 sfan5 !up does not use servers.minetest.net 20:27 Megaf why a person who doesnt isnt involved with minetest anymore hosts the MASTER server? 20:27 sfan5 dunno 20:28 sfan5 I'll host the new one 20:28 sfan5 but we can't change the DNS atm 20:28 Megaf xyz is always online at #Freeminer 20:28 markv Hello peoples 20:30 sfan5 much code, very C, wow: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/LoyqUBi-Ru6S.png 20:32 kaeza that hurts my eyes :< 20:32 sfan5 what exactly? 20:32 kaeza evenings 20:32 * sfan5 meows at kaeza 20:32 kaeza >if(x)\n{ 20:33 WindHero that is a ton of code indeed 20:33 coagen sfan5: what program is that? 20:33 sfan5 coagen: a program that encrypts data transparently 20:33 WindHero I can now safely say I'm not too worried about the size of CaveRealms or SkyLands 20:33 kaeza also 2 space indent 20:33 coagen sfan5: sorry, I mean the editor 20:33 sfan5 kaeza: fuck spaces, that's tab 20:33 sfan5 coagen: http://atom.io 20:34 coagen sfan5: nice thx 20:34 sfan5 kaeza: I never indent with spaces 20:34 kaeza also, what's with that uintblah_t\n\tx,\n\ty; ? 20:34 kaeza ;_; 20:34 shadowzone hi kaeza. 20:35 sfan5 kaeza: makes it looks more organized 20:35 shadowzone hi sfan5 20:35 sfan5 hi 20:35 shadowzone I see some of my favorite mod makes are on. 20:36 sfan5 coagen: (no, I'm not using Mac OS X, you can compile it from source on linux) 20:36 kaeza sfan5, on the bright side, I approve of your fucking of spaces 20:36 coagen sfan5: haha, I thought so :) 20:36 sfan5 kaeza: tab saves file size :) 20:36 coagen sfan5: aur/atom-editor 0.106.0-2 (89) 20:36 coagen BAM! 20:36 sfan5 coagen: oh, arch user? 20:37 coagen right in the arch! 20:37 coagen :D 20:37 coagen installing now 20:37 sfan5 !c (len(" "), " (spaces) vs. ", len("\t"), " (tabs")) 20:37 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 20:37 sfan5 huh? 20:38 sfan5 !c (len(" "), " (spaces) vs. ", len("\t"), " (tabs)") 20:38 MinetestBot (4, ' (spaces) vs. ', 1, ' (tabs)') 20:38 sfan5 ^ kaeza 20:38 asl sfan5: that screenshot look like it's no more than 500 lines of code 20:38 kaeza sfan5, and tabs are flexible :3 20:38 coagen this is one of the first AMV videos I ever found, many years ago... just stumbled upon it again... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIq405sRpTk 20:38 sfan5 asie: 271 lines 20:39 WindHero only 271? 20:39 PenguinDad 4gewinnt_algorithmus.py \o/ 20:39 sfan5 yep 20:39 * kaeza hides from the "tabs are 8 spaces hurr durr" haters 20:39 WindHero if you put all of CaveRealms in one file, it's some 1100 20:39 sfan5 PenguinDad: that one's hard to beat 20:39 asie sfan5: hi 20:39 * sfan5 purrs at asie 20:39 * shadowzone gets confused. 20:39 coagen atom editor is dependent on node.js? interesting 20:40 asl i am not asie lol 20:40 sfan5 coagen: atom is really just a web browser with javascript running in it 20:40 sfan5 asl: oops, sorry 20:40 coagen sfan5: yeah I saw it was "chrome" based in the desc, fascinating 20:41 coagen npm WARN package.json github-url-from-git@1.1.1 No repository field. dafuck? 20:41 kaeza I recall Allegro had a style rule where indentation was 3 spaces, but on disk, 8 spaces should be saved as a tab 20:42 kaeza so if you indented four times, you would have to save it not as 12 spaces, not 4 tabs, but one tab *and* 4 spaces 20:42 sfan5 coagen: you may want the "minimap" (the overview thing at the side), "seti-ui" and "monokai" pkg (I use those); my font is Envy Code R 20:42 sfan5 kaeza: wat 20:42 kaeza needless to say, this broke the formatting 90% of the time 20:43 kaeza unless you explicitly told your editor that one tab was 8 spaces, which almost nobody save hardcore lunatics do now 20:43 coagen ==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build(). Aborting... :( 20:43 * coagen tries other aur git version 20:44 WindHero First attempt at vertically unlimited caverealms: https://mediacru.sh/5AAwYOCYxeWC 20:44 Amaz Wow. 20:45 shadowzone My jaw just hit china from the usa. 20:45 WindHero lol 20:45 coagen kaeza: the openbsd project did code cleanup on opensssl when they created libressl using some sort of formatting tool.... I wonder what it was 20:45 WindHero spoiler: it still cut off at a chunk border :P 20:46 shadowzone That looks awesome I love it. 20:46 coagen WindHero: wow thats wicked man 20:46 WindHero thanks 20:46 sfan5 coagen: probably http://astyle.sourceforge.net/ 20:47 * sfan5 goes to bed 20:47 kaeza they are more flexible now, and actually save indents as tabs 20:47 kaeza night sfan 20:47 sfan5 coagen: if the aur thing does not work just clone from git 20:47 * sfan5 really goes to bed 20:47 coagen sfan5: right, which is why I say write it and let programs format it for you, and don't care about formatting! 20:47 shadowzone Good night sfan5! 20:47 coagen sfan5: goodnight! 20:47 WindHero 'night sfan! 20:48 asl night sfan5 20:48 LemonLake sayounara 20:48 sfan5 *looks that up* 20:48 LemonLake goodbye 20:48 sfan5 ah 20:49 sfan5 おやすみ〜 20:49 WindHero if it's still in the a.m. here 20:49 LemonLake hai, sfan5 20:49 WindHero should I be saying "ohayo gozaimasu"? 20:49 LemonLake correct 20:50 WindHero FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WITH AN INKLING OF JAPANESE 20:50 LemonLake still setting up my japanese keyboard 20:50 LemonLake but i've been learning it the past 3 weeks 20:50 WindHero I'm nowhere near that level 20:50 WindHero I only know what I've picked up from anime :P 20:50 shadowzone That caverealms looks like a planet on star wars. 20:50 LemonLake i probably know about 20 words 20:50 LemonLake but i couldnt list them all if asked, id just remember them as they come along 20:50 coagen watashi wakarimas! 20:50 coagen hehe 20:51 coagen watashi wakarimas nihongo ga 20:51 WindHero watashi is "I", isn't it? 20:51 LemonLake correct 20:51 WindHero @shadowzone: perhaps 20:51 shadowzone I am a geek by the way. 20:52 coagen I learned extremly basic japanese to give tour once to students from japan... looks like I might remember a word or two 20:52 Jordach shadowzone, https://mediacru.sh/85612b13b5bb 20:52 shadowzone https://mediacru.sh/J3InG70wWy9f 20:52 LemonLake sick renders 20:52 LemonLake you're getting a lot better 20:52 shadowzone Jordach I made a meme with one of your renders 20:52 Jordach that is not a render 20:52 Jordach I REPEAT 20:52 coagen Jordach: that is sexy 20:52 WindHero that's SEUS from MC 20:52 LemonLake ah okay 20:52 LemonLake shadus? 20:52 shadowzone oh. 20:52 LemonLake it looks like minetest 20:52 LemonLake look at the textures 20:53 LemonLake ah, no that's definitely mc 20:53 shadowzone Jordach still I used one of your renders to make a meme. 20:53 WindHero I know why I had a chunk cutoff 20:53 WindHero too little space between layers 20:54 WindHero when two caves collide, they cut off the other 20:56 WindHero hmm 20:57 Amaz WindHero, Have you thought of making a modified version of caverealms for skylands game? 20:58 WindHero oh, such that there are mega-islands with caverealms inside? 21:00 Amaz Yeah. 21:00 WindHero hmm 21:00 LemonLake that sounds cool 21:00 WindHero It wouldn't be impossible 21:01 WindHero I guess I could experiment with something like that in SkyTest 21:01 WindHero although I wouldn't put it in SkyLands mod 21:06 LemonLake こんにちは！ 21:06 LemonLake I got Anthy and IBus to work :D 21:07 LemonLake ohh but mozc is soo much better :D 21:12 WindHero hrmmmm 21:12 WindHero this isn't working how it should 21:12 WindHero it's even making underground skylands, in a way 21:15 WindHero If I'm gonna make them vertically unlimited, I'm gonna have to slightly rewrite the generation code.. 21:16 LemonLake it would be cool if you made them slightly different the lower you went 21:16 WindHero using paramat's subterrain engine as a base 21:16 WindHero in what way, LemonLake? 21:16 Amaz Right. 21:16 WindHero biome or structure 21:16 Amaz imo, biome 21:16 LemonLake same 21:16 LemonLake maybe different blocks 21:17 LemonLake and ores 21:17 WindHero I already had some slight ideas of doing something like that down the line 21:17 WindHero ores, eh? 21:17 LemonLake maybe 21:17 WindHero I currently don't generate any ores 21:17 LemonLake ah 21:17 Amaz :D 21:17 WindHero except the mese crystal bases, ofc 21:18 LemonLake はい 21:19 WindHero I can't read Japanese 21:19 LemonLake that just says 'hai' which means 'yes' 21:19 LemonLake は = ha, い = i 21:20 WindHero ik what hai means 21:21 WindHero another test: https://mediacru.sh/kX7md7cXzWjP 21:21 WindHero note the cutoff again 21:21 LemonLake getting there 21:23 WindHero yup :P 21:23 coagen WindHero: onload popup should have something like "Its Dangerous to Go Alone! Take this" and you click a button and get torches... haha 21:23 WindHero ROFL 21:24 Amaz XD 21:24 LemonLake Iぃけい　てぇわy位sいｔ 21:24 LemonLake oh crap, wrong keyboard 21:24 WindHero I've honestly considered that 21:24 LemonLake I like it the way it is, actually 21:24 LemonLake It looks very mystical 21:24 WindHero what, right now, or before the changes? 21:24 LemonLake I mean, lighting-based 21:25 WindHero oh yes, so do I 21:25 LemonLake You could make it so that torches just freeze up in them :P 21:25 WindHero lol 21:26 WindHero eh, I'd leave that to individual players/server owners 21:26 WindHero it 21:26 LemonLake okay 21:26 WindHero isn't really right to deny people a node just for aesthetics 21:26 WindHero btw, (off topic) where's your avatar from, LemonLake? 21:27 LemonLake which one? 21:27 LemonLake my forum one? 21:27 WindHero Minetest 21:27 WindHero forum 21:27 WindHero yeah 21:27 LemonLake let me see 21:27 LemonLake [potentially NSFW] https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=yuno+gasai 21:27 LemonLake from Mirai Nikki 21:27 LemonLake I'm changing it today tho 21:27 WindHero ohh 21:27 WindHero I've heard that name 21:27 LemonLake sfan5 recommended it to me 21:27 WindHero and steered clear :P 21:28 LemonLake amaaaazing anime 21:28 WindHero I'm watching Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic right now 21:28 LemonLake phpbb avatars are a pisstake though 21:28 LemonLake it should at least resize them to 64x64 itself 21:28 WindHero yeah 21:28 LemonLake i have an unbelievable amount of copies for every place i put an avatar on 21:30 LemonLake changed 21:31 WindHero kawaii~ 21:32 LemonLake はい！ 21:32 WindHero My avatar is from Robotics;Notes 21:32 WindHero lesser known anime 21:32 LemonLake thats on my to-watch list after Clannad 21:32 LemonLake been wanting to see it for a while 21:32 WindHero probably would only know of it if you saw and liked Steins;Gate 21:32 LemonLake nope 21:33 LemonLake i looked at an anime database and found animes similar to hyouka and kokoro connect 21:33 WindHero ahhh 21:33 LemonLake thats how i find new an imes nowadays :P 21:33 LemonLake s/an imes/animes 21:33 WindHero any chance you've heard of/seen Accel World? 21:33 LemonLake heard of 21:39 WindHero yeah, this is getting nowhere 21:39 WindHero Imma gonna try a partial rewrite 21:42 LemonLake さようなら！ 21:58 Nerotic Finally, got to compiling :) 21:58 Nerotic 63% 22:01 Amaz Great 22:02 Nerotic Yep, it's only a test though, not a compile for Nerotictest. 22:02 Amaz Ok 22:02 Nerotic Finished, and it works. 22:03 Amaz :) 22:12 Nerotic Where is the file located in /minetest/ (uncompiled) that allows you to change the title from Minetest, to whatever? 22:12 Nerotic I am guessing builtin? 22:14 Amaz Just on the screen? Or in the top of the screen? (You know what I mean...) 22:15 Nerotic no, in the code. 22:15 Amaz Menu, instead of the first screen. 22:15 Nerotic github.com/minetest/minetest 22:16 Nerotic in that i mean 22:16 Amaz just the github name? 22:16 Nerotic no -.- 22:16 Nerotic nvm 22:17 Amaz I didn't thin you meant that... 22:17 Nerotic ill look myself, you didn't read it right, but its okay, i like a challenge anyways(even though its probably in plain sight) 22:17 Amaz Okay. 22:18 Amaz I don't really get your meaning... 22:18 Amaz But any way, I' m going to sleep now. 22:18 Nerotic night 22:26 highrise9999 Hello. 22:26 Nerotic Yo 22:27 highrise9999 I was wondering if it was in any way possible to have multiple outputs for the same crafting recipe. 22:27 Nerotic Yeah. 22:28 Nerotic Somebody tried making all recipes be flippable but that never made it into a version 22:28 highrise9999 Is this something that could be done in Lua scripts, or would I have to modify the core? 22:29 highrise9999 crafting recipes--sure they can be done in Lua--but showing them all . . . 22:29 Nerotic its all in minetest_game so yes, lua 22:29 Nerotic no core is needed to be changed 22:29 highrise9999 sounds promising 22:30 Nerotic you can modify the minetest_game/default codes, and do it, or make another folder in minetest_game and have it as a mod like addition 22:30 Nerotic except itll be there by default 22:30 highrise9999 yeah 22:31 highrise9999 Is there any documentation on modifying the inventory GUI? 22:31 Nerotic dev.minetest.net 22:32 highrise9999 I did a search for "inventory" there but not much came up though 22:32 Nerotic k 22:32 Nerotic look around 22:32 highrise9999 yeah I might just take a look at the scripts 22:34 Nerotic Alright 22:37 kaeza highrise9999, there are several mods that modify the player inventory. the simplest example (that does anything useful) is probably the `creative' mod, available in most sub-games 22:37 kaeza if you are looking for more advanced stuff, try looking at inventory_plus or unified_inventory 22:38 highrise9999 kaeza: ah, didn't think of the creative inventory. I'll check that out; it seems to have the kind of look I want with selecting items. 22:38 highrise9999 kaeza: will, do, and thanks! 22:38 kaeza sure, and welcome :) 22:55 kaeza http://www.geek.com/games/grandmother-buys-old-building-in-japan-finds-55-classic-arcade-cabinets-1598130/ 23:21 WindHero ok, I'm stumped 23:22 Jordach lol 23:22 WindHero maybe I'm just not meant to have vertically unlimited caves at this time :P 23:32 Jordach boat load of Minetest icons that look like cisoun's https://www.dropbox.com/sh/97pgla00n338te5/AADDhNHiOl2EXfv953UBY5jWa 23:35 Jordach (still need to make ico for the windows users) 23:43 WindHero alright, I'mma gonna step away from this for a while and try later... 23:43 WindHero cya