Time Nick Message 00:02 MinetestBot Zeno`: 06-27 04:19 UTC I have to go eat dinner, but I pushed a commit. Enjoy! 00:02 WindHero rofl 00:02 WindHero good thing I didn't wait around yesterday :P 00:02 WindHero hi Zeno` 00:02 Zeno` hi :) 00:03 Zeno` how's things? 00:04 WindHero good 00:04 WindHero made a small commit with mycena essence and craft recipes 00:04 WindHero you? 00:04 Zeno` not too bad 00:05 Zeno` have you tested that all the nodes drop a real item? 00:05 Zeno` I meant to look last night but fell asleep; pretty sure something is dropping something it shouldn't 00:05 Zeno` but I can't see anything wrong in the Lua... weird 00:05 WindHero huh, lemme check 00:06 Zeno` I'd check in the game but I'm in Windows and it's too hard hehehe 00:07 WindHero oh, I know what it is 00:07 WindHero 'default:cobblestone' is being used instead of 'cobble' 00:07 Zeno` oops :) 00:09 WindHero yup 00:09 WindHero I should have caught that 00:12 WindHero this is difficult... 00:12 WindHero falling ice 00:12 Zeno` ice?! 00:14 WindHero :3 00:14 WindHero icicles in a glaciated biome 00:15 Zeno` underground or above? 00:18 WindHero underground 00:21 WindHero alright, got single nodes falling 00:21 WindHero now I just need to have it drop all nearby/attached nods 00:21 WindHero *nodes 00:21 WindHero and hurt players who get hit 00:22 Zeno` I imagine it would hurt getting hit on the head with a block of ice 00:32 EvergreenTree I think I might try to do something with blender's motion tracking 00:32 EvergreenTree and a minetes video clip 00:33 WindHero sounds interesting 00:34 WindHero I haven't gotten around to trying blender's mt yet 00:38 WindHero how much do you think I should hurt players hit by the icicles 00:38 WindHero *? 00:41 Zeno` Has anyone been having trouble connecting to servers using the latest git version with a Windows client? 00:58 WindHero yay, got the icicles working 00:59 WindHero now to make the biome for them 01:04 EvergreenTree WindHero: I think the mese crystals are a little op 01:04 EvergreenTree maybe make them rarer 01:04 EvergreenTree In your cave realm mods 01:04 WindHero yeah, I keep experimenting with those... 01:05 WindHero thanks for the feedback! 01:07 cmhobbs link to the cave realm mod? that sounds like something fun to try 01:07 WindHero https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9522 01:08 cmhobbs thank you! 01:08 WindHero no prob :) 01:09 cmhobbs definitely installing this! 01:09 cmhobbs the pics look great 01:15 Zeno` the mese are fine for me (mainly because I have caverealms at -3000) 01:15 Zeno` by the time you dig that deep you have so much mese you have no use for it anyway heh 01:16 WindHero alright, time to test the new biome (in it's early, decor-less stage) 01:18 cmhobbs what's the chance of finding a cave? 01:18 kaeza 42 01:19 Zeno` 2a 01:20 EvergreenTree just 42 01:20 EvergreenTree 42 is the answer to everything 01:20 WindHero no 01:20 WindHero life, the universe, and everything 01:21 cmhobbs of course 01:21 Zeno` I'm still getting reports from Windows 7 players who can't connect. I'm not sure how to debug this problem 01:21 WindHero but in seriousness 01:21 WindHero there are good chances at certain depths 01:21 WindHero with the default settings 01:21 WindHero you can guaranteed find one near 0,-1400,0 01:25 WindHero well, the new biome works 01:25 WindHero but it needs a lot more light 01:39 cmhobbs what's the maximum world depth? 01:40 WindHero -33000 or so 01:43 kaeza more like ~-30900 01:45 kaeza it could be -32768 (uint16_t), but IIRC, it leaves some room to avoid complicating some calculations or something like that 02:23 bloodyax2000 Hey 02:24 bloodyax2000 I keep getting some exception "bad allocation", anyone know whats up? 02:26 WindHero alright, got a working version of a frozen biome 02:26 WindHero just needs a little tweaking and a little more testing 02:26 Zeno` screenshot? 02:26 WindHero https://mediacru.sh/bGqdlvsKf3xo 02:26 WindHero already prepared ;) 02:27 WindHero there's water under that ice, too 02:27 Zeno` nice :) 02:27 WindHero and at the edges of the biome, the ice is semi-transparent 02:27 bloodyax2000 Whoa that's awesome ^ 02:27 WindHero try digging at icicle stalactites, and there's a 1/3 chance it'll fall and kill anything beneath it 02:27 WindHero thanks 02:28 bloodyax2000 No problem:D 02:28 Zeno` I'm having trouble with this texture for glow worms lol 02:28 WindHero I bet :P 02:28 WindHero them be turribly difficult blighters 02:29 WindHero I don't think I'll have the commit pushed until later though... 02:29 WindHero unless you're fine with a commit with no documentation for 2 hours 02:30 Zeno` Nah, I'm fine waiting 02:30 WindHero great, it's better to do it right 02:30 WindHero and with that, gotta run 02:30 WindHero cya! 02:30 Zeno` cya 03:04 sethj I got a quick question, how can I use /giveme to get some string from the farming_plus mod? 03:04 sethj No matter what I try I always get "error" cannot give an unkown item" 03:05 sethj I have tried '/giveme NodeItem farming_plus:string' '/giveme string' '/giveme farming_plus:string' and the like to no avail. 03:15 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 03:15 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (651ms) 03:17 kaeza sethj, apparently, the item name is "farming:string" 03:17 kaeza ( https://github.com/PilzAdam/farming/blob/master/cotton.lua#L72 ) 03:17 sethj kaeza Ah, you're right. Thank you! 04:11 Exio4 *Main> eval $ parser "2+2*2" 04:11 Exio4 6.0 04:11 Exio4 :D 04:12 Exio4 i'm so bored i make a parser of infix OPs 06:00 Endymion Hi. I have a question about the moreores mod - does bronze not work, or am I doing something wrong? I see references to it being copper & tin, but... that doesn't work. 06:07 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Add prefixes to enum values and fix style issues c91f8b1 2014-06-28T02:02:38-04:00 http://git.io/hzm0jQ 06:07 hmmmm they removed it because bronze isn't technically made out of copper and tin 06:08 hmmmm it doesn't really matter, it's just an ugly orange colored block anyway. 06:09 Endymion So what good is tin then? 06:09 hmmmm as good as all the others, endymion. 06:09 hmmmm it's just a certain block with a certain texture. there's nothing special about it at all. other mods possibly use it for their own purposes, however 06:12 Endymion Well that's annoying. Especially since almost every resource about Minetest asserts that bronze is Copper+Tin. 06:19 Endymion Well, thank you for the help. 07:51 sfan5 meow 07:51 sfan5 hi everyone 07:51 sfan5 !deop 07:51 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 07:51 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 07:52 RealBadAngel hi sfan5 07:52 sfan5 :3 07:52 Krock meooowwww 07:54 jp_ hi 08:13 Krock sfan5, closed and not merged? 08:14 * kaeza enchants sfan5 with Low Priority III 08:14 kaeza mornings 08:15 Krock morning, kaeza 08:54 nman3600 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxU-cQvmi-k 08:54 nman3600 !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxU-cQvmi-k 08:54 MinetestBot nman3600: Suarez Bit My Finger - Suarez Bit Me - YouTube 08:54 nman3600 It's so funny 08:54 LemonLake I don't have a hostname o.o 08:55 LemonLake dafuq 08:55 LemonLake where the hell is my hostname 08:55 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'((((-< 08:56 LemonLake On this IRC. 08:56 LemonLake No, I don't 08:56 LemonLake My hostname is literally non-existant, it's just my IP 08:56 LemonLake Usually it'd say like bt-central-plus 08:56 LemonLake Specifically @host86-164-179-125.range86-164.btcentralplus.com 08:57 LemonLake "22* *** Couldn't look up your hostname" 08:57 LemonLake theres the issue 08:57 LemonLake whats weird is that I'm also having trouble accessing other services 08:57 LemonLake so I'm gonna restart the router 08:58 LemonLake Brb. 08:58 LemonLake No, my router is playing up 08:58 LemonLake some things just are like 'fook you' 09:25 Krock http://i.imgur.com/8t4B2jA.jpg 09:26 LemonLake wtfffffff 09:26 LemonLake why do half the websites just refuse to load 09:26 kaeza bad DNS? 09:27 * kaeza goes off to bed anyway 09:27 LemonLake no its not... 09:27 LemonLake hm 09:27 Calinou hi 09:28 LemonLake It literally disrupts my ENTIRE work. 09:28 LemonLake I can't work 09:30 LemonLake Yeah, it's weird 09:31 LemonLake True I spose. 09:33 Calinou I can't work 09:33 Calinou in before â€œwork == play gamesâ€ 09:33 LemonLake Ain't playing. 09:33 Calinou that happens too often *shrugs* 09:34 LemonLake Have this on autojoin and you guys are actually quite helpful. 09:34 LemonLake Shame that I can't even get on google. 09:34 Calinou get on DuckDuckGo 8) 09:34 * Calinou finds Google downtime great to see 09:34 * Calinou gets binoculars 09:34 Krock * Calinou finds Google downtime great to see 09:34 Krock huh? 09:35 Krock not down 09:35 Calinou it kind of amuses me, that's what I meant 09:35 LemonLake I'd like to know what that means too, Calinou 09:35 Calinou people running with hair in fire :D 09:35 Calinou LemonLake, it seems down to you, but probably not to everyone 09:35 LemonLake Calinou 09:35 Calinou doesn't mean you're not acting like it's the end of the world 09:35 LemonLake As we already established, it's my ISP. 09:35 LemonLake Learn to pay attention. 09:38 LemonLake john_minetest: this is probably the same thing causing the hostname issue 09:38 LemonLake I had it on another IRC server today as well, but it works now 09:40 LemonLake Oh, silly me. 09:40 LemonLake I never had to work in the first place >.< 09:40 LemonLake ugh ever since the sleeping thing my brain is sooo offset 09:41 * Calinou gives LemonLake a british melon 09:41 LemonLake TIME? 09:41 LemonLake Why? 09:41 Calinou I wanted to know your time :P 09:41 LemonLake 10:41 09:42 LemonLake am 09:43 LemonLake Just north of england. 09:43 Calinou john_minetest, UTC is 10:47, UTC+1 is 11:47â€¦ 09:43 Calinou at summer time 09:43 LemonLake no... 09:43 Calinou UTC is almost always England 09:44 LemonLake In a town north of England :P 09:44 Calinou at winter time 09:44 Calinou yes 09:44 Calinou UTC == GMT, basically 09:44 LemonLake Google is back. 09:45 Calinou :( 09:46 LemonLake I dislike google with a passion due to their unwilling cooperation with the NSA. 09:46 LemonLake However I use it simply for the fact that it works, its fast and its reliable. 09:46 LemonLake As well as that, their 'data collection' actually helps me find results faster. Insanely useful. 09:46 LemonLake While they know everything about me, they help me out with it. 09:47 LemonLake It's cool stuff. 09:47 LemonLake Mhm. 09:47 LemonLake 'uses google' 09:47 LemonLake 'protects privacy' 09:47 LemonLake thats not how it works. 09:47 LemonLake Btw 09:47 LemonLake "Oops! Google Chrome could not find startpage.com 09:47 LemonLake Try reloading: startpage.Âcom" 09:47 LemonLake Startpage is too broken. 09:48 LemonLake Same problem as earlier. 09:48 LemonLake It simply doesn't connect to certain domains. 09:48 LemonLake I think it may be country-based. 09:48 Calinou "Oops! Google Chrome could not find startpage.com 09:48 Calinou use Chromium at least :P 09:48 Calinou http://goo.gl/A5jMJ 09:49 LemonLake Calinou: I have my own personal preferences. Leave me alone for fuck sake. 09:49 Calinou john_minetest, DuckDuckGo is preferable to Startpage, because some of their code is free/libre and doesn't use Google's search data 09:49 Calinou on top of that, DDG is much prettier and more customizable 09:49 Calinou LemonLake, there's literally no difference between both, except one is probably much better for your privacyâ€¦ 09:49 LemonLake They also seem to lack a UK server. Thus, can't connect. 09:50 Calinou the link I provided has development versions, so you can get newer features before everyone else :P 09:50 LemonLake Mhm, I don't care. 09:50 LemonLake While they may be invading my privacy, I have nothing to hide. 09:50 Calinou really bad argument 09:50 LemonLake Also, "Oops! Google Chrome could not find commondatastorage.googleapis.com" 09:51 Calinou change your DNS? 09:51 Calinou (you can do that in your router's control panel, I think) 09:51 LemonLake I was planning on doing that later this afternoon if its not done yet. 09:51 LemonLake However I'd require access to my router, which I do not have. 09:52 Calinou from terminal, how to I get an IP from a domain name? 09:52 Calinou (it's not â€œwhoisâ€) 09:52 LemonLake dig (domain name) 09:53 Calinou http://173.194.67.95 seems to be Google's IP 09:53 Calinou but crap, I just landed on it 09:54 LemonLake Can you give me the IP for startpage? 09:54 LemonLake I'll see if it is a DNS lookup problem. 09:54 Calinou 89.146.4.147 09:54 LemonLake It is not a DNS lookup problem. Same issue 09:54 LemonLake I just simply seem to have no connection to sites outside the country, it seems 09:54 asl LemonLake, what's the different between dig and nslookup? 09:55 LemonLake The difference is that dig is the only one I've ever heard of. 09:55 Calinou nslookup has different, simpler output 09:55 Calinou it gives me 89.146.4.149 09:55 Calinou slightly different IP 09:56 Calinou alsoâ€¦ http://173.194.67.95/chromium-browser-snapshots/index.html â†’ the title, WTF? 09:56 LemonLake When I put in the IP it did "Oops! Google Chrome could not find startpage.com" 09:56 LemonLake which means DNS is fine 09:56 Calinou Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 09:58 asl LemonLake, nslookup startpage.com gave me 69.28.209.49 09:58 LemonLake then they have multiple servers 10:00 asl it seem they set a 301 to redirect people accessing using ip to the domain 10:01 Taoki Oh god. So before I just woke up, I had a bad dream involving Minetest. Notch got upset and decided to send C&D orders to other MC-like engines. 3 games were included, Minetest being one. However, celeron55 managed to talk with Notch, and convince him to settle with simply changing some code in MT that was similar to one in MC. 10:01 asl LemonLake: basically, it means your DNS is most likely broken since it can't find the ip for the domain that your browser was being redirected to 10:01 Taoki lol 10:02 LemonLake asl, the DNS is definitely fine 10:02 Taoki The dream wasn't all that horrible though. Since in it, Minetest had advanced shaders and generated terrain like in Cryengine 10:02 Rhy5 hi everyone :) 10:02 LemonLake I'm pretty sure it's just ISP maintenance. 10:02 Rhy5 hi lemon :D 10:02 Taoki Hi :) 10:02 LemonLake Yo 10:02 Rhy5 Hows it going? 10:02 LemonLake Meh, it's going down. 10:03 Calinou bye 10:03 Rhy5 Lemon, haha. 10:03 Calinou â€œNotch got upset and decided to send C&D orders to other MC-like engines.â€ â†’ do you even think he can even do that? 10:03 Calinou â€œHowever, celeron55 managed to talk with Notch, and convince him to settle with simply changing some code in MT that was similar to one in MC.â€ â†’ too unlikely, if it's the case, it's pure coincidence. 10:03 asl LemonLake: what does nslookup startpage.com give you? if there is something wrong with the dns, nslookup would ether error or give the wrong ip 10:03 Calinou Minecraft is Java, not C++. 10:04 LemonLake asl: Not on linux at this very minute, nslookup is not a command I can use. 10:04 Rhy5 If Minetest was C++, people would have a nervous breakdown. ._. 10:04 Rhy5 MINECRAFT, sorry xD 10:04 asl nslookup is available on windows too 10:04 LemonLake So people are having a nervous breakdown right now? 10:04 LemonLake asl: not on windows. 10:04 asl then you are on mac? 10:04 LemonLake Atm I'm on android. 10:05 asl oh lol 10:05 LemonLake I'm sorting things out elsewhere. 10:05 LemonLake But the entire house is having the same issue. 10:18 Rhy5 Hi, again :) 10:20 Rhy5 Zeno`: Hi :) 10:21 Zeno` hi Rhy5 10:22 Rhy5 How are you? 10:22 Zeno` Getting there... tired. You? 10:22 Rhy5 I'm alright, thinking plans for a game I am making :) 10:22 Rhy5 I've done some basic programming for it. 10:23 Rhy5 Would you like to see the progress? 10:25 Zeno` yeah, sure 10:28 Rhy5 http://www.filedropper.com/things - Images of game. 10:28 Rhy5 http://imgur.com/fZpYXEK - Image of plan. 10:29 Rhy5 Sorry, had to sort something out ;P 10:29 Zeno` looks good! 10:29 Zeno` and you've done the best thing you could have done 10:30 Zeno` made a plan! 10:30 Rhy5 Haha, I can never make games without a plan ;) 10:31 Zeno` What's terrain generator? 10:37 lemonlake_ Looks like every website is back 10:37 lemonlake_ Terrain generator is what the world will be made to look like 10:49 PenguinDad Carbone still crashes with enabled damage :( 10:49 lemonlake_ http://i.imgur.com/wfljUCo.jpg 10:49 lemonlake_ I didn't know they have diapers made specifically for Canadian babies. 10:50 Rhy5 lemonlake_: Haha 10:50 Jordach hello lemonlake_ 10:51 * Rhy5 thinks that Fancy Terrain Generators are overated - Making a simple 2d one. 10:51 lemonlake_ Heyho Jordach 10:51 Jordach lemonlake_, beaten The Twins with a laser rifle :3 10:51 lemonlake_ oh nice 10:52 Rhy5 Jordach: Hmm? 10:53 lemonlake_ Rhy5: Terraria. 10:53 Rhy5 lemonlake_: I got thrashed by Brain of Cthulu, I want the Deathbringer Pickaxe - I have a Crimson. 10:53 Rhy5 And it needs tissue samples, from the creepers. 10:54 lemonlake_ Thrashed by a brain of cthulu? 10:54 lemonlake_ Dude, they're one of the easiest mini-bosses 10:54 Rhy5 lemonlake_: Not used to it. I only have iron armour. 10:55 Rhy5 Beaten 2 goblin army's though, one from manual spawn and from normal spawn. 10:57 * m5 is getting Debian 7.5 Xfce4 10:57 Jordach Rhy5, i have like near infinite mana 10:57 Rhy5 Jordach, I have full health and mana :) 10:57 Jordach Rhy5, i happen to know a server in hardmore with good orichalcum equipment 10:58 Rhy5 I love mah spacegun. 10:58 m5 Jordach, An absolute statement (Infinite) is not subject to gradation (near) 10:58 Jordach stfui 10:58 m5 And Hi Rhy5 10:58 Rhy5 Hi m5 :) 10:59 Jordach wat 10:59 Jordach wat 10:59 Jordach wat 10:59 Rhy5 Yey 10:59 Rhy5 Yey 10:59 Rhy5 Yey 11:00 Rhy5 Jordach, Urban Dictionary? ;P 11:00 lemonlake_ did you said triple messages 11:00 Jordach brb 11:00 lemonlake_ or am i going crazy 11:00 Rhy5 lemonlake_: Your going crazy 11:00 lemonlake_ wat wat wat Yey Yey Yey 11:00 lemonlake_ thats literally what it says 11:00 m5 Rhy5, You're 11:00 Jordach something broke my steam lib 11:00 m5 11:00 Rhy5 m5: Wut? 11:01 * m5 stops highlighting people 11:01 Jordach oh good 11:01 Jordach thank fuck 11:01 m5 lol 11:01 Rhy5 lemonlake_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQKkL5JHhZk 11:01 Rhy5 :D 11:01 Jordach terraria saves are saved in documents and not the install folder 11:01 lemonlake_ yep 11:01 lemonlake_ my games/terraria 11:01 lemonlake_ why? you cheating? 11:02 Jordach lemonlake_, no. my steam librar's external location broke 11:02 lemonlake_ oh 11:02 Jordach (usually saves are located in their install folwer) 11:03 lemonlake_ not with terraria 11:03 m5 My plan for the next 4-5 hours: 11:03 m5 + Get Debian 11:03 m5 + Make sure Xfce is not fucked up 11:04 m5 + Cry because UEFI won't work 11:04 m5 + Extend my windows partition 11:04 m5 + Delete debian install 11:04 m5 + Repeat 11:04 Jordach woot for junctions 11:04 lemonlake_ why repeat? 11:04 Jordach i am making symlinks to keep my installed games despite having a broken steam lib 11:05 CraigyDavi Hmm does anyone know how I could get a map.sqlite file only of areas on the map above -100? 11:05 lemonlake_ symlinks? do they even exist on windows? 11:05 CraigyDavi Maybe worledit the entire map and then copy it onto a new map? 11:05 lemonlake_ craigydavi: copy, open, remove everything below -100 11:05 Jordach lemonlake_, mklink /j "file folder name" "C:\path\to\docorfolder\" 11:06 lemonlake_ ohwow 11:06 m5 lemonlake_, Not for a Fat* filesystem 11:06 lemonlake_ i gotta try that when im back on win 11:06 CraigyDavi lemonlake_, Ok I'll try that, lets see how much it makes my computer lag :) 11:06 m5 Not proper symlinks anyway 11:06 lemonlake_ craigydavi: your we solution is probably better 11:08 m5 lemonlake_, try cr[TAB] 11:08 lemonlake_ m5: for what? 11:08 lemonlake_ i have no problem 11:08 m5 Not having to type CraigyDavi 11:08 lemonlake_ oh i see 11:08 lemonlake_ yeah i know 11:08 lemonlake_ but pressing tab ruins my flow 11:09 lemonlake_ also, cr + tab only works with a lowercase username, it does not capitalize 11:09 m5 Hmm 11:09 m5 WOrks for me 11:09 lemonlake_ so it'd go to crazyR instead 11:12 crazyR hmm i heard my name, who awoke me :d 11:13 lemonlake_ we were just discussing autocomplete 11:13 Jordach lemonlake_, having to install my games to C:\, then move them to D:\ and then symlinking them together :3 11:13 Jordach and i have to redownload L4D2 11:13 lemonlake_ you know you can just tell steam to do stuff in D:\ 11:14 lemonlake_ magic 11:14 Jordach lemonlake_, tried using the normal folder; it's broken 11:14 lemonlake_ its in steam settings 11:14 Jordach steam tells me to gtfo :3 11:14 lemonlake_ https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7418-YUBN-8129 11:14 lemonlake_ follow that, its much easier 11:15 Jordach lemonlake_, i have a folder on D:\ named SteamGames 11:15 Jordach i have used said feature before: but this MORNING it is BROKEN. 11:16 lemonlake_ ok 11:16 Jordach and i'm in the beta client 11:18 lemonlake_ Progress is being made on the new wallpaper :D https://cdn.mediacru.sh/EpAA5Cnyapmm.png 11:19 Jordach btw - we should hold yearly IRC Minetest events starting from next year 11:19 lemonlake_ why 11:20 m5 I agree 11:20 * sfan5 throws timezones at Jordach 11:20 Jordach because i'm getting a new server tower 11:20 m5 I now disagree 11:20 Jordach m5, does 2tb and a shitload of Minetest come to mind 11:20 m5 Only 2? 11:21 Jordach i'll be adding bonus drives as time passes 11:21 * m5 gots 1PB 11:21 sfan5 !c 'kitten' 11:21 MinetestBot 'kitten' 11:21 sfan5 :O 11:25 m5 http://pastie.org/9334322 11:26 Krock ShadowNinja! https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1421 11:31 CraigyDavi Krock, they don't save at all, or just under certain circumstances? 11:32 Krock CraigyDavi, test it self. they save in no case 11:32 Krock best example: okay in a singleplayer world and rejoin 11:32 CraigyDavi Ok 11:32 Krock *play 11:33 CraigyDavi I'll try that 11:33 Krock the latest windows builds should contain this bug already 11:36 PenguinDad Krock: this seems to be a windows only bug 11:37 Krock PenguinDad, hmm? already using latest git? 11:39 CraigyDavi Krock, same thing happens to me 11:39 CraigyDavi The player file does not save 11:39 Krock good to know, it's a global bug 11:39 PenguinDad Krock: happens for me too but only randomly 11:40 Krock PenguinDad, randomly? how to undertand that? 11:40 CraigyDavi It also created a stupid "singleplayer.~mt" file. I thought that bug was fixed ages ago... 11:41 PenguinDad Krock: sometimes the file saves sometimes not 11:41 Krock interesting... 11:41 Krock oh srsly 11:42 Krock singleplayer.~mt is modified today 11:42 Krock the other was modified last wednesday 11:42 CraigyDavi Maybe that's the problem then 11:42 Krock yeah 11:43 CraigyDavi Actually, yeah, i remember there was once problems saving player files on my server - turns out some player files were ".~mt" files. 11:43 Krock I deleted "singleplayer", rejoined, the stuff was still there 11:43 Krock it created a new singleplayerfile 11:43 Krock ... 11:44 CraigyDavi Also there was a bug once where some player files ended with a "1" so if i joined the server as "CraigyDavi" it would also create a "CraigyDavi1" The player file did not save unless the file with the 1 on the end got deleted 11:44 CraigyDavi A possible security issue with that too... 11:47 PenguinDad How about saving player data in a sqlite database? 11:47 CraigyDavi That's a great idea 11:47 Krock ^ 11:47 Krock suggested many times 11:47 CraigyDavi Freeminer does that 11:47 * CraigyDavi runs 11:48 lemonlake_ freeminer does everything 11:48 lemonlake_ then they brag about it 11:48 PenguinDad Sqlite and freeminer O_o 11:48 Krock somehow I always got a reason for not making it to sqlite 11:48 Krock lemonlake_, you're fake 11:48 lemonlake_ excuse me 11:49 CraigyDavi I think there should be a map.sqlite, rollback.sqlite, items.sqlite and players.sqlite files 11:49 PenguinDad you're fake too 11:49 lemonlake_ * [lemonlake_] is logged in as DrawingDrewfly 11:50 Krock dzho_ is fake, too 11:50 lemonlake_ * [lemonlake_] (~lemonlake@host86-164-176-128.range86-164.btcentralplus.com): Drew Lemmy 11:50 PenguinDad CraigyDavi: what do you want to store in items.sqlite? 11:50 Krock ^dropped items? 11:50 CraigyDavi Yeah 11:50 lemonlake_ that should be map 11:50 lemonlake_ since they're entities 11:50 CraigyDavi ugh https://cdn.mediacru.sh/R51IvM6ps1DZ.png 11:51 CraigyDavi it will also make /clearobjects faster 11:51 lemonlake_ sweggy theme 11:51 CraigyDavi Much faster 11:51 lemonlake_ what is it 11:51 Krock CraigyDavi, could be worse 11:51 lemonlake_ also, craigydavi, alt + printscr may come in handy next time 11:51 lemonlake_ saves time cropping 11:51 * Krock opens "Key shortcuts for noobs.txt" 11:52 * Krock adds the new one 11:52 CraigyDavi It's my own custom windows theme lemonlake_ :) 11:52 lemonlake_ oh cool 11:52 CraigyDavi lemonlake_, I use http://getsharex.com/ 11:52 CraigyDavi GO GET IT! :) 11:52 lemonlake_ will you be releasing it? it looks smexy 11:52 CraigyDavi Possibly yeah 11:52 Krock run this: "net stop Designs" 11:52 Krock enjoy with my specialtheme 11:52 CraigyDavi I can even take freehand screenhots 11:53 lemonlake_ as can i 11:53 lemonlake_ but with alt + printscr 11:53 lemonlake_ its just printscreen, ctrl v 11:53 CraigyDavi I can even make gifs with sharex 11:53 lemonlake_ no wait, its instant. 11:54 CraigyDavi Press Prt Sc once, hold, press again and it uploads the gif straight away online 11:54 CraigyDavi Screenshot gets uploaded straight to mediacrush 11:55 lemonlake_ whatever 11:55 lemonlake_ its just another reinvention of the wheel to me 11:56 CraigyDavi Meh 11:56 lemonlake_ dis gurls hair is lookin gewwd 11:57 CraigyDavi Hmm anyone know where I can upload a 20GB file? 11:57 lemonlake_ dropbox 11:57 lemonlake_ complete getting started and you get 50gb free 11:57 lemonlake_ ftp server 11:58 CraigyDavi Ok 11:58 lemonlake_ http server (because hipster) 11:58 lemonlake_ anywhere 11:59 Rhy5 Hi :) 11:59 CraigyDavi hi Rhy5 12:00 Rhy5 Hi CraigyDavi! 12:00 Rhy5 Brb 12:03 m5 I can tell you that my debian installation went according to plan 12:03 m5 And also I have 36GB of games 12:03 m5 Would they run less like shit If i made a new partition for them? 12:03 Rhy5 Back. 12:04 m5 me too 12:12 Rhy5 ~quit 12:27 m5 geopbytes... 12:27 m5 Why do we even have this measurement? 12:27 m5 We will not reach it within the next 10,000,000 years surely 12:29 lemonlake_ It's entirely possible 12:29 m5 9.5367431640625e-7 YB 12:29 m5 That's a Yottabyte 12:29 m5 That's lots of Yottabytes 12:30 m5 Have we reached 1EB? 12:30 lemonlake_ thats probably the amount of memory all humans have stored as a total 12:30 lemonlake_ human brains* 12:34 m5 You think humans have a lot of memory 12:35 lemonlake_ i dont really care 12:35 m5 I reckon my brain will fit on my VPS 12:35 lemonlake_ "You might have only a few gigabytes of storage space, similar to the space in an iPod or a USB flash drive. Yet neurons combine so that each one helps with many memories at a time, exponentially increasing the brain's memory storage capacity to something closer to around 2.5 petabytes (or a million gigabytes)." 12:38 m5 Hmm 12:38 m5 We can calculate the amount of space in all humans then 12:39 m5 1,000,000,000,000x2.6 12:39 lemonlake_ 1,000,000 * 7,243,191,443 12:39 m5 !c 1,000,000,000,000*2.6 12:39 MinetestBot (1, 0, 0, 0, 0.0) 12:39 lemonlake_ !c 1,000,000 * 7,243,191,443 12:39 MinetestBot (1, 0, 0, 243, 191, 443) 12:39 m5 ah 12:39 m5 !c 1,000000000000*2.6 12:39 MinetestBot (1, 0.0) 12:40 m5 wut 12:40 m5 Wolfram will help me 12:40 lemonlake_ 7.243192443Ã—10Â¹âµ 12:40 lemonlake_ just use a calculator 12:40 m5 I need actual numbers though 12:40 lemonlake_ why? 12:40 lemonlake_ do you not understand exponentials? 12:41 PenguinDad c 1000000000000 * 2.6 12:41 PenguinDad !c 1000000000000 * 2.6 12:41 MinetestBot 2600000000000.0 12:41 m5 21,990,232,555,520,000,000,000,000 bits 12:42 m5 2,328.3064365386 zettabytes 12:43 m5 That is 254516580503 Days 16 Hours 53 Minutes 20 Seconds with a Gig E connection (1GB/sec) 12:46 m5 I am the 81,698,909,487th person to have lives since history began 12:47 m5 I suddenly have the urge to brute force random numbers 12:48 lemonlake_ omg I finished the hair 12:48 lemonlake_ now what am I gonna do with my life 12:49 lemonlake_ oh no, i missed one strand 12:49 m5 I just lost the will to live 12:49 m5 sudo rm -rf * 12:49 m5 sudo rm -rf /* 12:49 m5 Or / ? 12:49 lemonlake_ have you ever played linux russian roulette? :p 12:50 m5 Lol 12:50 m5 Default allocation size 12:50 lemonlake_ [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo *Click* 12:50 lemonlake_ you must sudo -s before playing ^.^ 12:50 m5 Lol 12:50 m5 I did not even know about sudo -s 12:50 m5 You want to try? 12:51 lemonlake_ no thanks 12:51 lemonlake_ i like my linux 12:51 lemonlake_ and my files 12:52 PenguinDad lemonlake_: nothing will happen to my linux when I do this 13:02 sfan5 PenguinDad: GNU coreutils... 13:03 m5 I need a rediculous filesystem 13:03 m5 One for fast shit 13:19 m5 !seen Sockbat 13:19 MinetestBot m5: sockbat was last seen at 2014-04-27 11:07:06 UTC on #minetest-de 13:19 m5 !seen sockbat 13:19 MinetestBot m5: sockbat was last seen at 2014-04-27 11:07:06 UTC on #minetest-de 13:19 m5 UTC... 13:20 m5 I don't find that particularly useful 13:24 sfan5 m5: MinetestBot can't magically know your time zone 13:25 m5 If it says X hours minutes ago it could be more universal 13:25 sfan5 mhm.. maybe 13:59 Hirato considering the date is 27th of April, I don't think x minutes/hours ago is a useful metric :p 14:01 m5 years/months/days 14:01 m5 !logger 14:01 m5 Grr I need ShadowBot 14:02 Hirato shadow bot hides in the shadows 14:02 * m5 formats everything he can find 14:22 MinetestBot UnboundLocalError: local variable 'time' referenced before assignment (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate) 14:22 sfan5 eww 14:22 MinetestBot ... 14:23 m5 !seen error 14:23 MinetestBot ... 14:23 MinetestBot m5: Sorry, I haven't seen error around. 14:23 m5 !seen markv 14:23 MinetestBot ... 14:23 MinetestBot m5: markv was last seen at 2014-06-26 19:04:04 UTC on #minetest 14:23 m5 ... 14:23 MinetestBot UnboundLocalError: local variable 'time' referenced before assignment (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate) 14:23 m5 lol 14:23 MinetestBot UnboundLocalError: local variable 'time' referenced before assignment (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate) 14:23 m5 Oh god 14:23 MinetestBot UnboundLocalError: local variable 'time' referenced before assignment (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate) 14:23 sfan5 test 14:23 MinetestBot TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'time.struct_time' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate) 14:23 sfan5 ah what the fuck 14:23 MinetestBot TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'time.struct_time' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate) 14:23 m5 lolololololol 14:23 MinetestBot TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'time.struct_time' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate) 14:24 m5 k 14:24 MinetestBot TypeError: int() argument must be a string or a number, not 'time.struct_time' (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/seen.py", line 49, in pushupdate) 14:24 m5 I have no idea 14:25 asl who broke minetestbot xD 14:25 m5 me 14:26 sfan5 asl: I broke it 14:27 m5 user mtbot :) 14:31 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 14:31 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 14:31 m5 " The next version is 0.4.10, not 0.5.0" 14:31 m5 Why? 14:32 * Krock headdesks 14:32 * m5 holds Krock's head down 14:33 Krock blubb blubb 14:33 Krock X.X 14:34 sfan5 m5: dramatic improvements and no backward compat are planned for 0.5.0 14:34 * m5 adds water 14:34 sfan5 m5: also "timenow = time.struct_time | int(timenow)" is not how it works 14:34 m5 Okay 14:34 m5 You do the wizardry 14:35 m5 I'm more of a sysadmin than a programmer 14:37 CraigyDavi 134 errors in visual studio :/ fuuuu 14:37 Krock visual studio? 14:38 CraigyDavi Yep 14:39 m5 2m till Ubuntu downloads... 14:39 m5 The plan is to remove ubuntu-desktop and install xubuntu-desktop :P 14:39 CraigyDavi fixed them all imma genius :D 14:40 CraigyDavi 2 million? 14:41 * Krock is uploading his today's MSVCbuild with players-fix 14:43 CraigyDavi So it should save the player files? 14:45 Krock yes 14:45 Krock CraigyDavi, do you also have this problem at your server? 14:45 CraigyDavi Awesome :) 14:45 CraigyDavi Nope, I have not used a recent build after I found out players do not save 14:46 CraigyDavi But the singleplayer file did not save so i presume i would haev the problem if i used it on my server 14:48 Krock hmm it didn't change the extra_version.. wahtever, here's the first x86 build https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=146099#p146099 14:48 m5 It'd be useful to find mutual names on two channels 14:49 CraigyDavi Great! How did you fix it, Krock? 14:49 Krock #minetest-dev 14:50 CraigyDavi Ah I see, gonna make a pull request? 14:51 Krock after I figure out how to download a repo + making a new branch + uploading + create request 14:51 Krock but the webgui seems to be much easier 14:53 CraigyDavi It's simple. Just fork, clone, make changes, push to a branch, create a pull request 14:53 Krock aha 14:53 Krock fork: done, clone: no success, make changes: done, 14:54 Krock yay! 50% 14:55 CraigyDavi Just create a new branch called "playersave-fix" or whatever. Then commit to the branch, pull requests can be easily done using the web ui 14:55 Amaz I get this warning at the end of compiling Minetest: lua/build/liblua.a(loslib.o): In function `os_tmpname': 14:55 Amaz loslib.c:(.text+0x29c): warning: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp' 14:55 Krock uh. this time, the guthub gui opened :O 14:56 CraigyDavi The funny thing about the github ui is you can see who has been editing online as it creates a "patch-1" branch 14:57 Krock hmm. they dropped the updates for windows xp... 14:57 Krock (github) 15:04 Krock wooo 15:04 Krock finally 15:15 PenguinDad Mine! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=146534#p146534 15:18 Krock lemonlake_, punch nman for no reason 15:19 lemonlake_ hello 15:19 lemonlake_ sure 15:19 Krock xD 15:19 lemonlake_ done 15:19 lemonlake_ he doesnt look happy 15:19 Krock hmm 15:19 Krock I expected the opposite 15:19 lemonlake_ why? 15:21 nman3600 Krock, WHY THE ACTUALL FUCK 15:21 lemonlake_ nman3600: [Actual News RSS] Server is back up and the bugs have been fixed 15:21 nman3600 Joining now 16:10 PenguinDad !seen EvergreenTree 16:10 MinetestBot PenguinDad: evergreentree was last seen at 2014-06-27 18:55:05 UTC on #minetest 16:15 m5 HI! 16:16 m5 IT WORKS!!! 16:16 * m5 has ubuntu 16:16 m5 Windows can suck it 16:17 Jordach enjoy your games that barely work in Wine 16:18 * m5 doesn't play games anymore 16:18 m5 That's what windows is for 16:18 m5 I'm going to strip out Unity and get XFCE 16:19 m5 Because Xubuntu didn't have EFI support :P 16:19 PilzAdam Jordach, remove "in Wine" and you can tell the same thing to windows users 16:19 Jordach PilzAdam, bullshit 16:19 Jordach you can't play that card when you had a X260 16:19 Jordach 360* 16:20 m5 Windows is linux with Wine 16:20 Jordach considering the NT kernel becomes more UNIX-like each day 16:23 * Jordach remembers why Cycles sucks balls 16:23 Jordach >sets sky color to sky blue (low saturation) >everything becomes blue-tinted 16:24 lemonlake_ jienius 16:24 lemonlake_ s/jienius/genius 16:24 Jordach this is why i prefer the aging Blender Internals Raytracer 16:26 Jordach most Blender tutorials now prefer Cycles 16:26 Jordach (it takes the hard parts out of rendering, which i prefer) 16:45 Calinou why do I have a short freeze when the game places/sets a node through an ABM, but not when I place a block by hand? 16:56 Amaz Are there any plans to make a Minetest Game database? 16:56 Calinou Amaz, http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Twoelk/sandbox2 16:58 Krock is there already a mod which re-creates an IRC system? like in-game switching between chat rooms? 16:58 lemonlake_ that would actually be pretty cool 17:02 Amaz Calinou: I meant something more like: https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/ So that games could be installed from Minetest itself... 17:03 Calinou the mod store already sucks :/ 17:03 Calinou Krock, no 17:04 * Krock opens TO_DO_LIST.txt, adds "IRC-like ingame mod" 17:04 Amaz Yep... But it would make sense to add a game section to it (Or the mmdb) as Minetest itself is becoming more of an engine... 17:05 Krock MAKE. THEM. BIGGER. IN. MINETEST. CONF. 17:05 Calinou font_path = /usr/share/fonts/truetype/droid/DroidSans.ttf 17:05 Calinou font_size = 18 17:05 Calinou font_shadow_alpha = 255 17:05 Calinou mono_font_size = 16 17:05 Calinou fallback_font_size = 18 17:05 Calinou fallback_font_shadow_alpha = 255 17:05 lemonlake_ font scaling 17:05 Krock afg 17:05 lemonlake_ we need hud/formspec font scaling 17:05 Krock agh* 17:05 Calinou the game was originally made to run in a 800 Ã— 600 window 17:05 lemonlake_ that will be cool 17:06 * Calinou tweaked ABM times, now the game freezes every so often :/ 17:07 Krock lemonlake_, move your head to my server. I need help there 17:11 Calinou even disabling the leaf decay ABM does nothing 17:14 m5 <3 [x]ubuntu 17:15 rubenwardy Hi all! 17:15 m5 Hi rubenwardy! 17:15 Calinou found a fix 17:16 rubenwardy The mod store (mmdb) is impossible to set up, so nobody will develop it 17:17 Amaz :( 17:18 jp_ Calinou : you have a found a solution for write '7' in MT (apart turn on a QWERTY keyboard) ? 17:19 Calinou no 17:20 jp_ AZERTY discrimination :( 17:26 Calinou Irrlicht bug, I think 17:27 asl anyone want to guess how many times get_node is called when fully draining the chainsaw from a few weeks ago? 17:27 Calinou leaf decay sometimes takes too much time on crowded servers 17:27 Calinou Sokomine, Carbone makes it much faster 17:27 Calinou interval 1, chance 2 abm 17:28 Calinou decays in less than 6 seconds on average 17:28 Calinou (sapling drop positions are also no longer random, which is minutely faster and more balanced) 17:28 Calinou john_minetest, Swindle :D 17:28 asl john_minetest: glad that i ain't the only one who got that 17:28 Calinou I don't think I've ever had that 17:29 asl https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1218 17:29 asl john ^ 17:31 PenguinDad john_minetest: I got that once on Krock's server 17:35 asl penguindad: are you on linux when you got that? 17:35 kaeza mornings 17:36 PenguinDad asl: I'm on linux and I got that error because I duge straight down while my inventory was full 17:36 asl so 3 reported case all happening on linux 17:37 PenguinDad *dug 17:39 asl my inventory was full too iirc and there was lots of querry digging 17:39 Calinou quarry* 17:39 Calinou (>2014 >quarry) 17:40 asl and it also happen when i was chainsawing trees, lots of them, like 200 moretrees sapling worth of tree 17:41 * PenguinDad queries the quarry miner 17:42 sfan5 the one we used for 0hgame? 17:42 sfan5 anyway 17:43 sfan5 it's domain matches ^[a-z]+pad.org$ 17:43 lemonlake_ any sort of pad 17:43 lemonlake_ i like piratepad 17:44 sfan5 http://etherpad.org/ 17:46 sfan5 john_minetest: the one we used for 0hgame? 17:46 Calinou Framapad, but it'll shut down soon 17:55 Calinou I made a legit farm with 146 soil blocks irrigated by only one water source 17:55 Calinou 3 levels :P 17:55 asl i guess no one want to guess the number of times get_node is call when fully draining the chainsaw 17:55 * sfan5 purrs at asl 17:58 asl the number of dig when fully draining the chainsaw: 2500, the number of get_node use by falling code on each dig: 27, total get_node used: 70000 (2500 get_node used by the chainsaw), time ~ 1800ms 17:59 * Calinou applauses at so-called â€œtimberâ€ mods 18:00 PenguinDad That's quite fast for 70000 get_node calls 18:02 asl with my patch on my fork of the technic mod, it use about 5000 get_node, time ~ 800ms 18:04 asl i just dummy out the falling code during the digging and poof, speed boost :P 18:12 MinetestBot GIT: proller commited to minetest/minetest: Masterserver: Fix undefined players 897c218 2014-06-28T22:10:55+04:00 http://git.io/Kyth9A 18:13 Calinou yes 18:21 asl penguinDad, it's fast cause most of the get_node is call for the same pos 27 times 18:22 lemonlake_ how does that make it faster 18:22 asl maybe it store it in memory or some cache after the first call 18:22 lemonlake_ I haven't seen any of that in the source code 18:23 lemonlake_ it might be some sort of luajit feature 18:50 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/gcqpTvvLOJdu.jpg â†’ new stones in More Blocks, tar in the background 18:52 Amaz Split-split stone tiles? ;) 18:52 Calinou yes, basically 18:52 Calinou tar is made by smelting gravel 18:52 Calinou grey bricks made with one stone brick + 1 brick block (the one made with clay bricks), or 1 stone + 1 brick block 18:53 RealBadAngel Calinou, all are quite nice except that one on the top 18:53 Calinou I should increase the contrast of the new textures somewhen 18:53 Calinou RealBadAngel, it's the side of the alternate split stone tile 18:53 Calinou needs a fix, yeah 18:53 RealBadAngel that horizontal tougher line in the middle hurts the eyes 18:54 Calinou yes 18:55 RealBadAngel if you want to make it symetrical, rescale it to 32x while keeping same pixel size and then shift it a bit 18:55 m5 if none of my 36GB of games work with wine I will cry 18:55 m5 Rather loudly. 18:56 * m5 still doesn't care about the world cup 18:56 ligeti Hello all... :) 18:56 Calinou hi ligeti 18:56 Calinou RealBadAngel, no, I won't use 32 Ã— 32 texture 18:56 SylvieLorxu john_minetest: Brazil won? 18:56 Calinou too problmeatic 18:56 SylvieLorxu Oh, thank God, then people in my neighbourhood won't be loud and obnoxious 18:56 RealBadAngel Calinou, without possibility to move it half a pixel it wont be symetrical 18:56 Tiktalik how's minetest going? 18:57 Tiktalik anyone decided nearly infinite worlds should be a thing yet? 18:57 Calinou RealBadAngel, maybe I'll use a whole different texture 18:57 Calinou Tiktalik, no, probably won't ever happen 18:57 Calinou use the available space well ;) 18:58 Tiktalik Calinou: my mom could explore an entire minetest world! >:\ 18:58 Calinou it'd take real time days 18:58 Calinou if you count underground and sky, it'd take real time years 18:58 Tiktalik i meant the surface :P 18:59 Calinou spend that time developing something real, like a build, a mod or a texture pack 18:59 SylvieLorxu Perfect. 19:00 Tiktalik Calinou: how flexible is minetest modding? 19:01 Calinou pretty flexible 19:01 Calinou it depends on what you want to do 19:01 Calinou the API will let you do some impressive things easily and some boring things are almost impossible to make 19:01 Calinou like everywhere else 19:01 Calinou (same goes for design and art in general) 19:01 Tiktalik Calinou: do you play minecraft at all? 19:01 Calinou no, since January 2014, I don't 19:01 Calinou Minetest totally replaced it 19:02 Tiktalik Calinou: familiar with the mod thaumcraft at all? 19:02 Calinou no 19:02 RealBadAngel i am 19:02 Calinou I don't use technic/thaumcraft-likze mods 19:02 Calinou like* 19:02 RealBadAngel what about it? 19:02 Calinou I hardly use mesecons already :p 19:02 Calinou bye 19:03 Tiktalik but thaumcraft isn't even that techky 19:03 Tiktalik *trechy 19:03 Tiktalik GAH 19:03 Tiktalik *techy 19:03 Tiktalik it's mostly just makin' tools and stuff 19:03 RealBadAngel not only 19:04 RealBadAngel it comes with pretty complex machines and tubes too 19:05 RealBadAngel im gonna start makin proper thaumcraft like mod after 0.4.10 comes out 19:05 Tiktalik want a list of things thaumcraft 4 could do better? 19:07 RealBadAngel hold on with that till work starts, there will be topic in forums on that 19:15 lemonlake_ RealBadAngel: but why? 19:15 lemonlake_ thats like copying 19:15 lemonlake_ thats not nice 19:15 Jordach copying is the sincerest form of flattery :P 19:15 Amaz ^ +1 19:15 Amaz :P 19:15 RealBadAngel copying would be if i take the source and start making the same 19:16 RealBadAngel im gonna remake it as i remember it and would like to be 19:16 RealBadAngel and thats pretty different 19:16 Amaz Yep. 19:19 lemonlake_ still 19:19 lemonlake_ we need more unique mods 19:19 lemonlake_ not just ripoffs of minecraft stuff 19:20 Amaz Yep! 19:21 lemonlake_ currently the attitude of many people is "oh making a mod is easy and ill become really popular for it so ill just make one" 19:21 lemonlake_ "hmm what do i do...i know ill do *** from minecraft because everyone likes it" 19:21 Tiktalik bah 19:21 Tiktalik a lot of things from minecraft fill common needs 19:21 Tiktalik that's why they're good 19:22 Tiktalik having the same things for minetest is also good 19:22 lemonlake_ i mean the unique things from minecraft 19:22 lemonlake_ i.e technic, thaumcraft 19:22 Tiktalik pipes for puttin' stuff places is useful 19:22 lemonlake_ but you're not getting my drift 19:22 lemonlake_ minetest is not a minecraft ripoff 19:22 Amaz Yep. 19:22 lemonlake_ it may be inspired by it 19:23 Amaz +lemonlake_ 19:23 lemonlake_ but its not supposed to be the same thing... 19:23 lemonlake_ thus people need to make more unique mods, heck, games even 19:23 lemonlake_ things like lord of the test and carbone 19:23 lemonlake_ one is completely unique, one contains things that people 'need' 19:24 lemonlake_ +john_minetest 19:24 Amaz lemonlake, even then, there is a lord of the rings mod for MC... 19:24 lemonlake_ i was aware 19:25 Amaz Right. 19:25 lemonlake_ tbh its mods that im worried about people copying 19:26 lemonlake_ games are alright as long as they have a pretty big twist 19:26 Megaf 16:25:29: ERROR[main]: mod "homedecor" has unsatisfied dependencies: "building_blocks" 19:26 Megaf That's not cool 19:26 lemonlake_ its not hot either 19:26 lemonlake_ got a problem with that 19:26 Amaz I suppose so. 19:27 RealBadAngel lemonlake_, makin a quality mod is not just that one is having an idea, original one or borrowed 19:28 RealBadAngel point is if modder can code it 19:28 lemonlake_ still, we don't need a thousand copies of popular mc mods 19:28 lemonlake_ thats what mc is for 19:29 lemonlake_ come on, just be original 19:29 lemonlake_ make a magic mod, that's chill 19:29 lemonlake_ but 'thaumcraft' is just showing that you've run out of ideas 19:29 RealBadAngel no, it means that i liked that mod and miss it 19:29 lemonlake_ 'miss it'? 19:29 lemonlake_ hasn't gone anywhere 19:30 lemonlake_ still has regular updates to date 19:30 RealBadAngel i want such mod in mt too 19:30 RealBadAngel and will code it 19:30 Megaf where do I get building_blocks from? 19:30 lemonlake_ just please make it unique 19:30 Tiktalik mods that fill a similar niche are good 19:30 lemonlake_ at least add a big twist and don't call it 'thaumcraft' 19:30 RealBadAngel ofc it will be different than original one 19:30 lemonlake_ it also gives a bad impression to outsiders 19:30 Megaf Ok, got it already 19:31 RealBadAngel i wont be even checkin how it looks like now 19:31 RealBadAngel i just remember some things and will go that way 19:32 lemonlake_ okay, thats better 19:32 SylvieLorxu lemonlake_: Having someone remake Minecraft mods for Minetest does mean we can enjoy them without having to use proprietary software :P 19:33 SylvieLorxu So I'd still very much call it a good thing 19:33 lemonlake_ it also gives a bad impression to outsiders 19:33 lemonlake_ i do agree that it transfers the enjoyable experience 19:33 lemonlake_ but it just makes it seem like we're out of ideas and are just in it for the fame/money etc 19:34 SylvieLorxu I don't think the Minecraft community has the right to complain seeing how Minecraft isn't even original, but fair enough 19:51 proller 1500 reached on "four circles" ! 19:51 proller http://freeminer.setun.net/map.circles/map-circles-2014-06-28-23-45.png 19:52 Jordach and yet it's full of chunk errors 19:52 Jordach not surprising with an unfinished bit of code used to produce it 19:52 proller wat? 19:52 proller where errors? 19:53 Jordach look at the water 19:53 Jordach fragmenting like hell 19:53 proller fm dont save not changed blocks 19:53 proller in game all ok 19:54 Jordach looks like shit if a server owner wanted to render the map 19:54 proller but this map size = 224M 19:54 proller with all saved blocks it will be 1-1.5G 19:54 Jordach you're wasting CPU cycles on regenerating segments 19:55 proller and? 19:55 Jordach that's like using RDRAND as your only source of entropy in /dev/random 19:58 proller this server generates 50+ blocks per second 20:45 lemonlake_ guys what day is it today 20:45 lemonlake_ nvm 20:49 Amaz Why? 20:56 Amaz Yep! 21:07 lemonlake_ idk 21:07 lemonlake_ oh, that 21:07 lemonlake_ my brain has been all over the place lately 21:10 markv okay I fucked up my machine 21:36 * sfan5 meows at john_minetest 21:43 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((([#longfish tag]((((((((((-<< 21:44 * sfan5 looks at john_minetest 21:45 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a bowl of milk 21:45 * sfan5 looks at john_minetest 21:45 * sfan5 noms it 21:46 * john_minetest pets sfan5 21:46 * sfan5 purrs 21:47 * markv calls Remote host to cloce sfan5's connection 21:48 sfan5 remote host would be myself 21:48 sfan5 s/myself/me/ 21:52 * Jordach meows at sfan5 21:52 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 21:57 kaeza RIP Uruguay 22:00 * Jordach meows at kaeza 22:01 Jordach :3 22:50 MinetestBot GIT: SmallJoker commited to minetest/minetest: Make player files saving again 3c5df42 2014-06-29T00:45:04+02:00 http://git.io/DNUuhQ 22:57 WindHero alright 22:58 WindHero 823 lines of code removed from the init.lua of caverealms and into their own lua files