Time Nick Message 00:02 Megaf so, suggestions for the pixel mod? 00:02 Megaf I made 8x8x8 textures 00:31 crazyR_ is there away to prevent esc from closing a formspec? 00:36 WindHero assigning something other than close to Esc xD 00:36 WindHero just kidding, in reality, not that I know 00:37 Zeno` ah WindHero, we meet at last 00:37 WindHero heya 00:37 Zeno` how's things? 00:37 WindHero yeah, sorry about that, been rather busy 00:37 WindHero good 00:38 Zeno` so have I, so it's all cool :) 00:38 WindHero yo? 00:38 WindHero *you 00:38 WindHero that's good 00:38 Zeno` yeah not bad. Busy, tried, cranky (i.e. normal) 00:38 WindHero lol 00:40 Zeno` Your realm brought my server to its knees the other night 00:40 WindHero D: 00:40 WindHero oh no 00:40 WindHero how? 00:42 Zeno` well, with default chunk size that loop is 80*(80+80*80*2) iterations. So... yeah :) 00:42 WindHero I've been meaning to ask paramat if there's a way around that... 00:43 Zeno` Yeah I had a quick look last night and was wondering if it was worth putting the noise check/loop on the outside, but I dunno really 00:43 WindHero that wouldn't work 00:43 WindHero it needs the noise at that 3D location 00:44 Zeno` nah, not "normally", but maybe... just maybe.. there is a way (I'll look again later and expand the equations) 00:45 Exio4 how do i see what achivs i can get in carbone? 01:06 luizrpgluiz hi 01:06 WindHero hi 01:22 Megaf yay, I just got some silver tape 01:23 Megaf if something can't be fxed with silver tape it can't be fixed at all 01:24 Megaf silver tape == duct tape 01:24 Megaf !title http://gizmodo.com/5447738/bear-attacks-plane-pilot-fixes-plane-with-duct-tape-pilot-flies-duct-taped-plane-home 01:24 MinetestBot Megaf: Bear Attacks Plane, Pilot Fixes Plane With Duct Tape, Pilot Flies Duct-Taped Plane Home 01:26 WindHero I made a wallet out of duct tape a couple times... 01:28 Megaf WindHero; not like this http://kashe.pbworks.com/f/1388369816/duct-tape-wallet1.jpg 01:28 Megaf http://kashe.pbworks.com/w/page/72100268/Duct%20Tape%20Wallet 01:28 WindHero nope, like that. 01:28 Megaf !title 01:28 MinetestBot Megaf: BBT [licensed for non-commercial use only] / Duct Tape Wallet 01:28 WindHero I never said I didn't use directions xD 01:58 Piggybear87 ctcp version Piggybear87 01:58 Piggybear87 Question. 02:00 Piggybear87 I have Lubuntu 14.04, but I have to start in recovery so it says Ubuntu 3.13.0.29-generic. Does that mean I need a different Minetest build than the one for 14.04? 02:10 Zeno` Did WindHero leave? :( 02:11 Zeno` just as I gave him a 300% speed increase in caverealms. Oh well... will push to my git heh 03:20 VanessaE Piggybear87: 3.13.0.39 refers to the kernel. you can ignore that for now. 03:21 VanessaE er .29 03:22 Piggybear87 Ok, thank you. 04:20 Zeno` Hi Vanessa, best pal and buddy 04:20 blaise lmao 04:20 Zeno` lol 04:20 Zeno` I don't want anything. honestly :3 04:20 blaise sure sure.. 09:40 Jordach ohaider 09:42 Eater4 Hi 10:22 SamuraiAlba Morning! 11:56 tomislav Hi 11:57 tomislav Is there minetest bundle with mods? 12:04 VanessaE a bundle? 12:04 VanessaE can you be more specific as to what you're looking for? 12:08 tomislav Hi VanessaE, nice to meet you :), I was looking for moded mintest so I don't have to download and install mods 12:08 tomislav but if it doesn't exist it is not problem for me to install them , of course 12:09 VanessaE well there are many sub-games available 12:10 VanessaE any game out there for minetest is really just a well-coordinated collection of mods 12:10 VanessaE but generally that's just how you do it - get the engine, a sub-game or two, and then if you need them, a few mods 12:10 tomislav Ok, thanks :) 12:11 tomislav Thanks, it was nice to meet you, hope to see you someday again 12:20 Krock Hi. 12:23 VanessaE hi 12:37 ecutruin Heyo 12:56 BlockMen VanessaE, "any game out there for minetest is really just a well-coordinated collection of mods". IMO that is not the idea of games for minetest, for that you could use a modpack aswell. games are supposed to give a platform for new playing mechanics, aims, etc... 12:57 LemonLake Hey all, what did you think of the progress on Ace of Picks? 12:57 VanessaE BlockMen: I know, but from the standpoint of the code, that's really all a game is 12:57 LemonLake I'm thinking of bringing it back. 12:57 VanessaE most of the time, you can delete components of a game by deleting the mods the game is made up of. 13:00 Amaz Lemon 13:00 LemonLake Yes? 13:00 Amaz LemonLake, That would be great! 13:00 LemonLake :D 13:00 LemonLake Glad to see people still actually care about it 13:00 Amaz Why are the backspace and enter keys are so close together D: 13:00 Amaz Did you ever release it? 13:01 LemonLake Not yet, it's still in development. 13:01 VanessaE BlockMen: and besides, I was trying to keep the explanation simple for him. Don't confuse a noob right out of the gate if you can avoid it. 13:01 Amaz I thought so... 13:01 LemonLake There's still quite a bit to add. 13:01 Amaz It looks awesome! 13:01 LemonLake :D 13:02 BlockMen VanessaE, saying that to a noob is same as "games are actually useless" 13:03 VanessaE ... 13:04 VanessaE um, in this case the noob wanted mods, I told him to get a game.. 13:04 Amaz I think that VanessaE's description of games is quite accurate... 13:04 VanessaE how is that saying games are useless? 13:05 LemonLake Is there a working alternative to hamachi for linux? 13:05 VanessaE don't use hamachi. 13:05 LemonLake I don't. It sucks. 13:06 VanessaE people will laugh at you, puppies will die, and it'll rain all day. 13:06 LemonLake Problem is, I don't have access to our router. 13:06 LemonLake I use Evolve when on Windows but I'm on Linux here. 13:06 Amaz What is hamachi? 13:06 LemonLake Something that sucks. 13:06 Amaz Right! 13:07 LemonLake Basically, it's an alternative to portforwarding. 13:07 Amaz VanessaE: Would you be willing to add support for the Lord of the Test game to HDX? ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5578) 13:07 Amaz Okay. 13:07 LemonLake It allows people to join in a group and have individual IPs, usually starting with 5.* 13:07 LemonLake Then it acts as a LAN connection. 13:08 LemonLake Problem is, it never works. 13:08 Amaz That seems to be a big problem! 13:09 LemonLake I'll just have to test with nman when he's home from school. 13:09 VanessaE Amaz: depends on what exactly is needed; HDX doesn't support any kinds of MOBs or player skins/models/armor, and if there's anything in there that needs commercial artwork from the Lord of the Rings franchise, that's gonna be a problem. 13:09 LemonLake Which means 1.5 hours of playing with myself. Hurrah. 13:09 BlockMen because your description downgrades a game. games define the whole stuff a world, saying that its just a collection of mods is somewhat wrong, beside that all is done in lua to use the api of minetest. 13:10 BlockMen games are suppoed to define and form the worlds, not to be a bunch of funny mods 13:10 LemonLake 7.3mb, is that an alright size for a game? 13:11 LemonLake And before you ask, its a proper game, not a modpack 13:11 LemonLake the only 'mods' in it are itemdrop, firearmslib and wieldview 13:11 Jordach LemonLake, BFD weighs in at ~23 13:11 LemonLake So I'm fine, then 13:11 Amaz VanessaE, I didn't think that skins could be done in a texture pack... That's news to me! But I don't think that there are any images that need to be takes from commercial art. 13:11 Jordach only because of teh jukebox 13:11 LemonLake Ah 13:11 LemonLake Well I may have to add a few more sounds anyway so... 13:12 VanessaE oh the skins can be done 13:12 LemonLake but all 49 sounds in ace_of_picks equal 499.7kb 13:12 VanessaE I just didn't bother to do them 13:12 VanessaE too difficult 13:12 LemonLake maybe kdirstat will show me whats using all the mbs 13:12 * Amaz hates skins... So difficult. 13:12 BlockMen VanessaE like to define everything with texturepacks, e.g. torches 13:12 Jordach Amaz, lies and hax 13:13 Amaz xP 13:13 LemonLake models are 1.7mb, textures are 1.5mb 13:13 VanessaE skins are easy. HD skins are hard. GOOD HD skins are REALLY hard. 13:14 Amaz Okay. 13:14 LemonLake im using the .x, so the blends can go 13:14 LemonLake 5.7mb :D 13:15 LemonLake 2.8mb, geez git uses a lot of space 13:15 VanessaE don't use .x 13:15 VanessaE use .b3d or obj or so 13:15 LemonLake well thats what 3darmor uses 13:15 VanessaE whatever is smallest 13:15 LemonLake this model is fine 13:15 LemonLake its quite small 13:16 VanessaE .x is bloated compared to the other formats 13:16 LemonLake but it works so im fine with it 13:16 VanessaE ok 13:16 LemonLake its only 377.5kb, its out of the way 13:16 LemonLake the space-hog in this project is the textures, of which there are 62 13:17 LemonLake and ui_form_bg is the biggest one, so ill rid that 13:18 Amaz So, do you think it would be possible, VanessaE? 13:18 LemonLake awesome, aop is now just 1.6mb 13:19 VanessaE Amaz: possible, perhaps. 13:19 Amaz How did you get it so small? 13:19 VanessaE but I'd need a lot of help 13:19 Amaz Okay. 13:19 LemonLake Amaz: Me? 13:19 asl when image are properly optimize, the file size can be reduce up to 80% smaller when compare to unoptimize images 13:19 Amaz LL, Yep. 13:19 LemonLake Well, git was using 3mb, there was a 1.3mb texture that wasnt even used and there were two .blend files that could just be annhialated 13:20 Amaz Okay! 13:20 LemonLake Next I need to check everything works, I'm gonna move the hotbar and the healthbar then I'll start working on the additional team spawnpoints 13:21 Amaz Is that as a zip? 13:21 LemonLake After that I can give the player blocks, add supply drops and the game should be ready for testing release 13:21 LemonLake That's as a raw folder. 13:21 Amaz Or just the files by themselves? 13:21 Amaz Right... 13:22 LemonLake Now I'm thinking of adding a river in the middle of the map generator, too 13:22 LemonLake So I'll have to work out how rivers are generated 13:23 LemonLake Possibly the best way is to have a 1d perlin noise, -1 to 1, and 0 is the center of the map. the other numbers are just offset, and the river will be a set width 13:23 Amaz So will the map be the same every time? 13:23 LemonLake Yep, and at the end of the game it just resets to the stored schematic. 13:24 LemonLake I could probably add a flag to allow different maps every time, though. 13:24 LemonLake Right now the schematic is just for faster loading. 13:24 Krock LemonLake, 2d perlin is needed, at least 13:24 LemonLake So I can have dynamic river width? 13:24 Krock yes 13:24 LemonLake I like it, thanks for the suggestion. 13:24 * Krock points at noisetest 13:25 * Krock used the biome noise to make rives 13:25 Krock *rivers 13:25 LemonLake it doesn't have to be too fancy, the map is only 240x240 13:25 Krock It's WTFPL, so feel free to copy, LemonLake 13:25 LemonLake but thanks :D 13:25 Krock ok 13:29 Krock aagh. a 7-times-in-a-row-poster! 13:29 LemonLake oops 13:30 LemonLake i accidentally opened 23 instances of steam 13:30 Krock happens 13:30 LemonLake specifically the friends list 13:41 Jordach LemonLake, you suck ;3 13:42 LemonLake What did I do? 13:42 Jordach [14:30:08] i accidentally opened 23 instances of steam 13:42 LemonLake ah 13:42 LemonLake I didn't know folderview was singleclick to open with no visual response D: 13:42 Jordach LemonLake, this is how i roll https://cdn.mediacru.sh/LD0EHdKQp2rP.png 13:43 LemonLake I roll without guns. 13:43 LemonLake Also, your Dryad is being attacked. 13:43 LemonLake Unless that's a pet. 13:44 Jordach pets :3 13:44 Jordach you didn't see the eater's bone then 13:44 LemonLake I just did. 13:47 Krock This is how I toll: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&p=146192#p146192 13:47 Krock #postabove 13:48 Krock ^- my signature 13:48 twoelk strange, I just found out the last version of Minetest that had working sound for me seems to be minetest-0.4.9-8b02a01 from 2014-04-15. Did I miss some new setting? 13:49 Krock maybe.I have sound 13:50 twoelk not in the versions I have. (some days old) will get the latest 13:50 Amaz Lots of users! https://cdn.mediacru.sh/U3kDnfb-sMxN.png 13:50 Krock twoelk, maybe something corrupted while compiling. try an other build 13:51 Krock Amaz, look at max. online users at once 13:52 Amaz Yep. 13:52 Amaz But that is for a singlethread! 13:52 Krock oh. 13:52 twoelk I did try three newer sfan builds and yours from the 17th June 13:53 Amaz https://cdn.mediacru.sh/DHGuL9c7Y0h1.png ,<-- For screenshot thread! 13:53 Krock twoelk, how about yesterdays? 13:53 Krock Amaz, doesn't it count per forum? 13:53 twoelk am downloading :-) 13:53 Krock k. 13:54 Amaz Maybe :/ 13:59 LemonLake Since when was I on the forum? 14:00 LemonLake Also, FF is a big game. AMost of the soudntracks are +4 hrs 14:00 Krock FireFox? 14:00 Krock :P 14:01 LemonLake final fantasy 14:01 LemonLake XII is 5 hours 14:04 LemonLake If a game is WTFPL, but the licenses inside it are not, does that affect the games actual license? 14:05 Krock every mod keeps it license 14:05 Krock *its 14:05 LemonLake okay 14:06 * Krock completed his simple-doubleclick-building-script-for-unmotivated-times 14:07 Krock btw, twoelk, is it working now or what's the state? 14:07 sfan5 meow 14:07 sfan5 hi everyone 14:07 LemonLake mew 14:07 LemonLake hiyaa 14:07 Krock meow, sfan5 14:09 * sfan5 punches Krock 14:09 LemonLake uw0t 14:09 * Krock licks sfan5's face 14:09 sfan5 I had to punch someone because of this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=628&view=unread#p146165 14:10 Krock already headdesked cause of this 14:10 LemonLake what is the issue here, im not seeing it 14:10 twoelk krock, sorry had a - er - customer of sorts - will be fiddling it into my system in a moment 14:10 Krock oh okay 14:12 sfan5 LemonLake: stupid questions 14:12 LemonLake oh, it pointed me to the wrong post 14:12 LemonLake oh my god that is headdeskworthy 14:13 Krock has a too high resolution ^ 14:13 LemonLake no, it just sent me to the first unread 14:14 * sfan5 meows at PilzAdam 14:15 LemonLake Okay, enough wasting time. Let's add rivers. 14:16 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((((--< 14:16 asl !seen Phvli 14:16 MinetestBot asl: Sorry, I haven't seen phvli around. 14:16 * sfan5 noms the fish 14:16 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 14:16 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 14:17 * LemonLake suddenly gets a pounding headache 14:18 * Krock rolleyes. Headdesk causes such things. 14:19 LemonLake I need to work out how to make the land around the river meet the riverbed 14:20 LemonLake Any ideas? How did you do it, Krock? 14:21 Krock LemonLake, I multiplied the noise-values, when they are lower than 0.1 and higher than -0.1 14:22 Krock line 134 14:22 LemonLake hmm 14:22 * Jordach should stop eating so much Indian Spice 14:22 LemonLake I see 14:23 LemonLake There's a smoothing function in some mapgens, how does it work? 14:23 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Add setting for tooltips show delay. 09ba047 2014-06-25T16:23:05+02:00 http://git.io/gsDhtw 14:23 Krock smoothing? isn't that just p-noise? 14:24 LemonLake For example, https://github.com/Novatux/mg/blob/master/init.lua#L79 14:24 Krock looks like brainfk 14:25 LemonLake mhmm 14:25 LemonLake I was thinking that it might be useful to have a layer of grass directly aside the water level, and then smooth it out 14:26 * Krock throws math.random at LemonLake 14:26 twoelk Krock, could it be that the "builtin" folder is missing in your 140624 build? 14:26 LemonLake Actually, the MC worldedit also has a smoothing function 14:26 LemonLake I could have a look at how that does it 14:27 Krock twoelk, uh. how did that happen? :3 14:27 Krock repuloading 14:27 asl !up minetest.org 30011 14:28 MinetestBot minetest.org:30011 seems to be down 14:28 LemonLake Oh hey 14:28 LemonLake I was just reading a post on the forums, went to a stackoverflow page and it was linking to said post 14:28 LemonLake lol 14:28 Jordach wait what 14:29 Jordach link or didn't happen 14:29 LemonLake http://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/50387/where-and-how-to-smooth-a-voxel-based-terrain-surface 14:29 LemonLake Second link on top answer. 14:29 Jordach lel 14:30 Jordach Amaz, Processing 0% 1 minute remaining. 14:31 LemonLake Alternatively I could have a '3d river' 14:31 Amaz Hm? 14:31 LemonLake where the river height is one below ground height and I'll add back flowing water 14:31 LemonLake that would be so much easier and look more natural 14:32 LemonLake yes yes, I'll do that 14:32 * Jordach broke another servo in the mechanical replacement 14:32 Krock twoelk, re-uploaded fixed ZIP at same URL 14:35 Amaz Amaz, Processing 0% 1 minute remaining. What do you mean? 14:36 Jordach Amaz, you'll find out in 10 minutes 14:36 Jordach or the next 60 seconds 14:36 Jordach or 120 14:36 Amaz Okay... 14:36 * Amaz wants to know! 14:36 Jordach inb4 the windows file transfer programmer made a cock up programming transcoding for YouTube 14:37 LemonLake http://pastie.org/9323114 My progress. So proud. 14:37 Jordach it's doing the same thing, 3000 minutes, 60 seconds, 3 minutes 14:37 LemonLake Jordach, if its still at 0% then YT is busy with other videos, yours will start in a few years 14:38 Krock LemonLake, omg. too cody 14:38 Jordach LemonLake, currently in need of new heavy duty servos because i shouldn't compress my weight on it (esp, while free running) 14:40 twoelk nope, client running but no sound. I used the defaults, so is sound now dissabled by default? 14:41 LemonLake What is the perlin generator in range of? 0 to 1? 14:41 Krock LemonLake, -1 and 1 14:41 LemonLake Perfect. 14:41 Krock twoelk, enabled by default. maybe is your sound driver broken - try to turn on your sound-boxes 14:41 twoelk Lemonlake: have you looked at the rinvers in paramat's watershed mod? 14:41 LemonLake No, I have not 14:42 LemonLake but I'm onto something here 14:42 Krock right. paramat made a rivers mod too 14:42 twoelk my setup cannot be brocken because Minetest builts pior to 15th of april all work out of the box 14:43 twoelk I have some 20 Minetest versions installed side by side 14:43 Krock twoelk, hmm interesting. are they all using the same OpenAL32.dll? 14:43 LemonLake Okay, this 5-line code should generate a river-like line of water in the middle of the map 14:44 twoelk will look 14:44 LemonLake If it does not, I might scream at a cow or something. 14:44 Krock lol 14:44 Krock better scream at a hungry, sleepy dog. 14:45 Krock LemonLake ^ 14:45 LemonLake hmm 14:45 LemonLake that may be my dog 14:45 LemonLake but I would never scream at him 14:46 Krock don't do it with your dog. it already knows and (maybe) likes you 14:46 PenguinDad LemonLake: better scream at something than a cow 14:46 LemonLake What about a pidgeon? 14:47 LemonLake Omg that pidgeon just shat itself i scared it so much 14:47 LemonLake rofl 14:47 PenguinDad plol 14:47 Krock "GOMG WHAT THE FU HELL HAPPND HEAR?", answer: "moo?" 14:48 * Krock likes ponies 14:48 LemonLake Right. 14:48 LemonLake groundLevel can't be used because the world doesn't exist yet. 14:48 * PenguinDad puts Rarity on Krock's head 14:49 * Krock puts a cow-flat on PenguinDad. 14:49 LemonLake I guess I could use a 2d array to store the top levels of the map. 14:51 Krock use pseudo arrays 14:51 Jordach Amaz, 14:51 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsO_PX-CfHA 14:52 Jordach what i'm using there runs on Mono and WINE (i've done that personally) 14:52 LemonLake Did you make that, Jordach? 14:53 Amaz Okay. 14:53 Amaz What is it you're using? 14:53 Amaz Looks a lot easier than gimp! 14:53 Jordach https://code.google.com/p/mcskin3d/ 14:53 LemonLake Mcskin3d 14:54 Amaz Okay. 14:54 Krock oh. MC. nice one anyway 14:54 twoelk Krock, it always seems to be the same version of OpenAL32.dll version 6.14.357.24 of some 106 kb, same as in sfan's build from June-23, which does not work, and from April-15 which does work. (and also the same as for mt-0.4.8 and mt-0.4.7) 14:54 Jordach still works for Minetest (and is an open source tool - what could be better) 14:54 Amaz Great! 14:54 LemonLake https://cdn.mediacru.sh/aiaEJMJ5RSJw.png 14:55 Krock twoelk, that's weird. I expected a change there. If it's not OpenAl, then it must be a new "feature" in minetest which causes those problems 14:55 LemonLake Hmm, grass generates on top of it. Gotta fix that. 14:55 LemonLake The water flows though, wish shows that it updates unlike I thought. 14:56 LemonLake Trees do too. That's a problem. 14:56 Krock twoelk, I can not help you further. But you could try to ask that in the dev channel. Possibly, they can help you 14:57 LemonLake My best guess is to, instead of a for loop after creation of the rest of the world, instead check if the z = the offset desired 14:57 LemonLake and generate it in the main chunk 14:57 Amaz Google code isn't very easy to navigate... 14:58 Amaz How can I download it?! 14:58 * Krock can't find a download link, too. 14:58 twoelk It's strange no one reported that befor, or I just have a wierd setup on this machine, no wait it didn't work on other machines as well, hmm 14:58 Jordach http://alteredsoftworks.com/mcskin3d/v1_4/mcskin3d_1_4_2_255.zip 14:59 Amaz Thanks! 14:59 LemonLake or svn checkout http://mcskin3d.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ mcskin3d-read-only 14:59 Krock twoelk, well I can't reproduce your problem. And you already checked minetest.conf for possible enable_sound=false ? 14:59 twoelk so not pc related, happens in different builds by different people and older builds work. yep sounds like a bug 15:00 Krock Yes, it sounds like a hardware-specific problem 15:00 twoelk I did indeed check the configs for strange settings, none that I recognized 15:01 * Krock points at issue tracker at github and #minetest-dev 15:02 twoelk uhm? 15:03 * twoelk did something wrong, his IRC client went all red 15:03 * Krock had to taskkill mcskin3d 15:04 * Krock had to do it again. it threw too much error boxes 15:04 VanessaE Calinou: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/commits/master (last three commits) 15:04 Calinou hi 15:04 PenguinDad mcskin3d "kill -11"'d itself 15:05 Calinou https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/commit/a19c9e6dee4cd278feecdb4441b30cf6d023b97d → isn't using division slow? 15:05 VanessaE Took a page from Carbone :) 15:05 Calinou it's more readable, for sure 15:05 Jordach PenguinDad, never happened under Mono and WINE 1.5 under X/K/buntu 12.04 15:05 VanessaE it is slow yeah, but I had to go for readability here. 15:06 Calinou I avoid division whenever possible here 15:06 Calinou let's save 0.1s of loading time :D 15:06 VanessaE heh 15:06 Calinou it probably only increases loading time 15:06 Calinou except when in on_step stuff 15:06 twoelk LemonLake, is that stream going downhill and uphill and down again, so not regarding gravity? 15:07 LemonLake Correct, but I couldn't see a better way and thought it was quite interesting how it worked anyway. 15:08 twoelk Them two mountain lake mods did some sort of trrain checking. That might contain usefull code. 15:09 twoelk *terrain 15:09 * Krock likes that feature of MCSkin3D, every click on the [OK]-button of the error message opens at least 2 new windows 15:09 Megaf Hi 15:09 LemonLake nah, I quite like it as it is 15:09 Megaf Krock; 4 minutes to compile the server on my ARM board http://paste.debian.net/106707/ 15:09 Jordach Krock, .NET for you 15:09 Jordach :3 15:09 Krock Megaf, 28 minutes for me 15:09 Krock Jordach, what you mean? 15:09 Jordach it's using C# and .NET 15:10 Jordach even in my video i was using MSAA 8X 15:10 Krock Jordach, yes. I saw that 15:10 Krock Megaf, you aren't even compiling the .cpp files... o.o 15:10 coagen hello 15:10 carhad Is it possible to move a world form Minetest next to Minetest Carbone? 15:11 Krock hi 15:11 * twoelk studied real life terrain for years (within some hobbies) and has always been irritated by terrain generated by games 15:11 Krock carhad, yes. but it could result in some unknown nodes 15:11 Megaf what do you mean Krock ? 15:11 Krock Megaf, nvm... 15:11 Calinou even in my video i was using MSAA 8X 15:12 Calinou more than 4 × FSAA is kind of a waste 15:12 Calinou on modern screens (if you aren't too close) 15:12 Jordach Calinou, it's like what, ~120 tris 15:12 Krock carhad, to change the game-type, open minetest_folder/worlds/world_name/world.mt and change "gameid" to the new game name 15:12 Calinou I'd appreciate if NodeBoxEditor used FSAA by default, too 15:13 Calinou twoelk, what's wrong with it? 15:13 Calinou too flat, not flat enough? 15:13 Krock (too less differences) 15:13 twoelk rivers flowing uphill (see earlier comments) 15:14 Krock they're all just flowing into the dirt at the deepest point :P 15:14 carhad Is Lua a C++ library or? 15:14 twoelk then a pond should form 15:14 twoelk that would be indeed cool 15:14 Krock carhad, yes it is 15:15 LemonLake finally 15:15 LemonLake some music in my subbox 15:15 Krock ^got VLC running 15:15 LemonLake < has no music on linux but has listened to all his songs many times 15:15 LemonLake I like hearing new music but I don't like having to look for it. I like it when it comes to me. 15:16 Jordach LemonLake, Spotify Radio 15:16 LemonLake It's that time of day now, I should have 8 new songs in the next 7 hours. 15:16 Krock UKW radio, ftw! 15:16 Jordach pick a type of tag, let it play 15:17 Krock proller__, bad connection these days? 15:18 LemonLake dudes 15:18 LemonLake mint 17 came out the other day 15:18 carhad So if you change Int.lua files then do you have to recompile the file? 15:18 PenguinDad Krock: proller, troller has a bad connection everyday 15:18 Megaf VanessaE; the bathroom/kitchen tiles could be a litle bigger and with a little less cotrast, instead of black, a dark grey, and instead of white, a really light grey 15:19 twoelk carhad: no 15:19 VanessaE Megaf: there are four shades; if you need a bigger size, use the ones from moreblocks. 15:19 Krock carhad, lua files get parsed by Lua automatically 15:19 VanessaE maybe I'll add more variants later. 15:19 VanessaE remind me tomorrow? 15:19 Jordach !tell VanessaE add more kitchen tile variants 15:19 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when VanessaE is around 15:20 Jordach >:D 15:20 Megaf VanessaE; paintings and washing machine are great additions 15:20 VanessaE Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2041 read the TODO 15:20 VanessaE I've been working through your old list of suggestions, finally. 15:20 VanessaE and see also, the latest commits. 15:20 Jordach stealing my post's todo list? 15:20 VanessaE yep 15:21 VanessaE shameless copy&paste :P 15:21 Jordach you mean edited my post for the codes and then repasted 15:21 VanessaE the codes? 15:21 twoelk carbon has paintings now as well so might be time for the "Ultimate Unified Paintings" 15:21 Jordach or tags :3 15:21 VanessaE oh, nope. 15:22 Jordach Unfied Inventory needs to be rebuilt 15:22 Jordach END OF. 15:22 Krock yes. 15:22 Krock no. wtf? why? 15:22 Jordach the sheer complexity and hard ton use is BS 15:22 Jordach it's size slows down minetest on certain machines 15:23 carhad Are mobs actually being developed for the official build? 15:23 VanessaE I just copied your post, Brandy's follow-up, and cg72's, itemized them, then piped the result through sort and automated adding of [*] [/*] tags around the entries. 15:23 Jordach (and that's the same reason why i avoid VE-Survival because of preload item visuals) 15:23 VanessaE carhad: not presently, but there are several MOB mods. 15:23 Megaf +1 for wall radiators in homedecor 15:24 Vazon i agree with Jordach, the Unified Inventory could redone to be simpilar 15:24 Jordach it needs a complete redux 15:24 Megaf if it stills compatible and player wont lost anything 15:25 twoelk but how should it look? 15:25 Vazon Megaf why would players loss anything?? the players inventorys are keep in the player files 15:25 Krock BlockMen, I like your Dessert Cobblestone. 15:25 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9066 15:26 Krock :3 15:26 * PenguinDad throws calcium at unified inventory 15:26 BlockMen not my cobblestone :P its just merged pull for _game ;) 15:26 BlockMen Krock^ 15:27 Krock BlockMen, but iz not eatable :( 15:27 Krock "Dessert" 15:27 VanessaE Jordach: you're welcome to provide pull requests for some of those items in the TODO btw :) 15:27 Jordach VanessaE, fuck sakes 15:27 Jordach i can provide nodeboxes 15:27 Jordach but no textures 15:27 VanessaE Jordach: such as the globe and the lightbulb - I need real models for those 15:27 VanessaE nodeboxes won't work 15:28 BlockMen Krock, wtf?! 15:28 Jordach VanessaE, oh cmon 15:28 Jordach >lightbulb 15:28 VanessaE Jordach: no, seriously. lay it out in your head. 15:28 Jordach that doesn't even need one 15:28 Jordach i see 15:28 Jordach RealBadAngel, where's our meshnodes 15:28 VanessaE a light bulb needs a fixture too 15:28 Krock BlockMen, nvm. Just a funny typo. 15:29 Jordach quit frigging with those tooltips 15:29 VanessaE that fixture will take on the texture of the lightbulb itself if it's made of nodeboxes 15:29 Jordach VanessaE, wait for meshnodes 15:29 Jordach then i can provide hundreds if not THOUSANDS of items 15:29 VanessaE a freestanding globe needs a frame/stand to hold it. that will take on the texture of the earth itself if made of nodeboxes., 15:30 VanessaE ok, those two will wait for meshes then 15:30 VanessaE if not meshnodes, then entities. something. 15:30 VanessaE but not nodeboxes :P 15:30 Jordach VanessaE, best part is, you could spin the entitiy 15:30 Jordach when punched 15:30 VanessaE yep. 15:30 Jordach oh god that felt cool even thinking about it 15:31 Krock BlockMen, the actual thing I wanted to notify you about is this here: https://github.com/BlockMen/minetest_next/issues/9 it would be a good addition if there's an API documentation for the added features/functions 15:31 VanessaE as for hundreds or thousands of items, well let's not go overboard :P 15:38 BlockMen Krock, you could bump sfan5 or nore aswell 15:38 Krock BlockMen, okay 15:39 Jordach VanessaE, define Homedecór 15:43 PenguinDad Hòmêdêcòr is quite nice 15:43 BlockMen Krock, https://github.com/BlockMen/minetest_next/issues/9#issuecomment-47119234 15:44 Krock great. myself, I'm trying to make the node-registring shorter 15:55 coagen so nice to see a mildly active channel, I think I'm going to try playing this game with my kid 15:56 coagen haven't played it for several years... 15:58 * Jordach pokes VanessaE 16:01 * sfan5 pokes Jordach 16:01 sfan5 Jordach: >The only thing I will ever accept as a decent thing to use is those shitty slow and cheap-o Chinese tablets, and for one reason; 16:02 sfan5 chinese tablets/phones often come with spyware 16:03 VanessaE gotta run 16:03 VanessaE bbl 16:04 Jordach sfan5, prefer that 16:04 VanessaE (sorry for disappearing, landlord finally showed up. and now that that's all taken care of, I'm off to sleep) 16:04 * VanessaE wanders off to bed 16:04 VanessaE bbl 16:04 sfan5 Jordach: one word: CyanogenMod 16:05 LemonLake cya 16:05 Jordach !tell VanessaE https://cdn.mediacru.sh/G-RHXHIdKIMn.png 16:05 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when VanessaE is around 16:06 LemonLake Now that's pretty cool. 16:07 LemonLake Could you use like a server map on that globe? 16:08 Jordach LemonLake, that can be done 16:08 Jordach we just fucking meshnodes 16:11 Amaz When are they likely to be done? 16:17 Jordach when RealBadAngel actually stops messing with tooltips 16:17 * Jordach wonders if it's possible to play Minesweeper in Minetest 16:17 LemonLake shouldn't be too difficult 16:18 LemonLake minesweeper in itself is really easy to code 16:18 Jordach we also need solitaire 16:18 Calinou # To reduce lag, block transfers are slowed down when a player is building something. 16:18 Calinou # This determines how long they are slowed down after placing or removing a node. 16:18 Calinou Is this still relevant with client-side block placement prediction? 16:18 LemonLake now thats a bit more difficult 16:18 LemonLake why is OldCoder always opped? 16:19 Jordach because we need a drop in shadowbot replace ment 16:20 SylvieLorxu sfan5: >often 16:20 SylvieLorxu sfan5: >one known case 16:20 Jordach and because ShadowNinja needs to get his gear together 16:20 LemonLake ah 16:20 SylvieLorxu Most Chinese tablets are probably as safe as American ones 16:20 LemonLake SylvieLorxu: >greentext 16:21 SylvieLorxu LemonLake: >white on black text 16:21 LemonLake SylvieLorxu: not getting the joke 16:21 Jordach SylvieLorxu, >black on white text 16:21 Megaf [12:25:37] Megaf why would players loss anything?? the players inventorys are keep in the player files 16:21 SylvieLorxu Jordach: Your colour scheme is terrible then 16:21 Megaf several factors 16:21 LemonLake Jordach: >black text on white 16:21 SylvieLorxu What are you even using, XChat? 16:21 Jordach Quassel 16:21 SylvieLorxu lol 16:21 Megaf once of them is the inventory not using those files anymore 16:21 LemonLake wut 16:22 * Megaf uses Quassel Client on Windows XP, OS X Mavericks and Debian Wheezy 16:22 Vazon Megaf: all inventorys are keeped there, they would they change it to use a different file?? thats just wasted space 16:22 LemonLake nvm 16:22 LemonLake ctcp went to query 16:23 Jordach my picture got burgled 16:23 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=145538#p145538 16:23 Jordach i can tell BFD textures from anything 16:25 Megaf LemonLake: /ctcp Megaf version 16:25 LemonLake exactly the same reply as Jordach's 16:26 Megaf what was the reply? 16:26 LemonLake -Megaf- VERSION Quassel IRC v0.10.0 (dist-575f27e) (built on May 9 2014 21:28:10) -- http://www.quassel-irc.org 16:26 Jordach i should update my client 16:26 Jordach brb 16:26 Megaf Yep, that's the windows version 16:26 Megaf what's the issue LemonLake? 16:27 LemonLake ? 16:27 AMMOnym_ Hello 16:27 Megaf hi 16:29 Jordach there 16:29 Jordach ctcp version again :3 16:29 AMMOnym_ Question for fun :D Which arena do you prefer : 1) something like colloseum 2) something like olympic games ? 16:29 Megaf AMMOnym_: 1 16:29 Amaz Arena 1. 16:29 Megaf Received CTCP-VERSION answer from Megaf: Quassel IRC v0.10.0 (dist-575f27e) (built on May 9 2014 21:28:10) -- http://www.quassel-irc.org 16:29 AMMOnym_ Thanks for answer :) 16:29 Megaf [13:29:17] * Received CTCP-VERSION answer from Jordach: Quassel IRC v0.10.0 (dist-575f27e) (built on Mar 28 2014 20:22:17) -- http://www.quassel-irc.org 16:30 Megaf Jordach: your Quassel is 19 days newer than mine 16:30 Jordach wat 16:30 Jordach Mar != may 16:30 Jordach Mines older by two months 16:30 Megaf oh 16:31 Megaf true 16:31 Megaf Jordach: mine is from Debian repos 17:19 Calinou Carbone: Code cleanup; higher mob jump heights; tweak mob spawning for lower active block range; don't log nyan cat generations by default; attempt to fix mobs not attacking sometimes. 17:19 Calinou server CPU usage: average 5 % with one player (and with many mobs) :D 17:19 Calinou when generating (fast fly), 30 to 60 % 17:19 Calinou when no players are on, 1 % 17:20 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/7701496/ 17:20 Calinou these are the settings used 17:20 SylvieLorxu Server CPU usage in percents is kinda meaningless if I don't know the CPU in question :P 17:20 Calinou i7-2600K 17:21 Calinou 1 emerge thread, so map generation is done on one core only; the numbers I gave were on one thread, not all of them 17:21 Calinou (60 % of one thread was used, not 60 % of all) 17:24 markv Hi! 17:25 Megaf Calinou: This can be higher server_map_save_interval = 15.3, I'm using 120 17:25 Megaf active_block_range = 1 can be 3, no problem, I use 3 on my ARM board 17:25 Amaz Jordach, does the mc skins thing in the video support capes? 17:25 Calinou default seems to be 2 17:26 Calinou Megaf, my CPU usage went down a lot by using 1 17:26 Jordach Amaz, ueses the bottom right section 17:26 Megaf max_simultaneous_block_sends_per_client = 4, I didnt see much difference here, using 1 or 8 17:26 Calinou the experience isn't harmed at all, provided the mob spawn chances are tweaked 17:26 Amaz Okay. 17:26 Calinou Megaf, less bandwidth usage when someone is loading blocks (default 10) 17:26 Amaz Thanks! 17:26 Megaf so on per client Im using 1 17:26 Calinou 4 is fast enough and doesn't eat all my bandwidth with one other player 17:26 Calinou Megaf, active block range matters a lot with mobs 17:27 Calinou making it too high will make ABMs impact a lot of blocks, which is slow 17:27 Calinou I don't want mobs to spawn 40 nodes away, I don't care 17:27 Megaf Calinou: I use one, because the network stack processing is done via USB on my server, and the USB processing and network processing is done on CPU 17:27 BlockMen http://imgur.com/gallery/PGNLPCb :D 17:27 Megaf max_block_send_distance = 6, this will use quite a lot of bandwidth 17:27 Megaf Im using 3 hre 17:27 Megaf here* 17:27 Megaf brb 17:28 Calinou default is 10 :-D 17:28 Calinou I made it the same as generation distance, so that people don't have to move around to make the blocks generate 17:28 Calinou (this makes the difference between generated blocks and sent blocks transparent too, like in Minecraft) 17:28 Calinou I think 0.3.x used 4, was quite low 17:28 Calinou it's nice to be able to see far away 17:32 Krock stupid github - doesn't let me create a merge request for a single commit 17:32 Krock eiter no changes are shown up or all, except of the newest >.< 17:36 Calinou \o/ Gitorious 17:37 sfan5 o 17:37 sfan5 a kitten 17:37 Calinou alt+mouse wheel in any application zooms for me (accessibility feature enabled by default) 17:37 Calinou cheap zooming in games that can't do it :-D 17:37 Calinou but blurry or pixeled 17:38 Krock Ctrl + mouse wheel here 17:38 Krock MEOW 17:38 Megaf ctrl + scroll 17:39 Megaf CPU Temperature: +39.0°C (high = +60.0°C, crit = +95.0°C) 17:39 Krock Ctrl + [+/-] 17:39 Megaf MB Temperature: +47.0°C (high = +45.0°C, crit = +75.0°C) 17:40 Megaf my motherboard is hot 17:40 Megaf we need to put out the fire 17:40 Calinou 47°C is good enough 17:40 Megaf Vcore Voltage: +1.01 V (min = +0.85 V, max = +1.60 V) 17:40 Calinou as long as you're below 60 °C 17:40 * Krock doesn't know his CPU temperature 17:40 Calinou CPU is at 33°C here, motherboard at 28°C 17:40 Megaf Krock: just open up a terminal and type sensors 17:40 Calinou (it's always pretty cold) 17:40 Megaf :) 17:41 * Krock throws WINDOWS at Megaf 17:41 Calinou you need lm-sensors installed; also, not all PCs support sensor reading, but most of them at least allow temperature reading from the OS, thankfully 17:41 Calinou voltage and fan speed readings are much rarer 17:41 * Megaf catches WINDOWS and uses it to heat his house (Using a fireplace) 17:41 Calinou it's hug-a-motherboard-software-developer day! thank them for not supporting operating systems other than Windows. 17:41 Megaf thanks Krock 17:41 BlockMen but WINDOWS breaks when thrown?! 17:42 Calinou they probably are there (all CPUs sold since ~2004 have one) 17:42 Megaf The readins I pasted here are from ACPI 17:42 * Krock wonders how Megaf got WINDOWS burning...it doesn't burn 17:42 Megaf Krock: it comes in a box with DVD and manuals and stuff inside 17:43 Megaf I got a sensor on my CPU that shows the temp too 17:43 Megaf k10temp-pci-00c3 17:43 Megaf temp1: +37.5°C (high = +70.0°C) 17:43 Megaf all my readings http://paste.debian.net/106732/ 17:44 Megaf ^ Calinou & john_minetest 17:44 * Megaf is not using a chassis fan 17:44 Megaf I wonder how can I lower my Vcore even more 17:45 Megaf on windows it would go as down as 0.85 volts 17:46 Krock Motherboard: 49°C 17:46 Krock CPU 21°C 17:47 Krock HDD's ~42°C, CPU went down to 15°C, wtf? 17:47 Megaf Krock: because windows 17:47 Megaf john_minetest: is that an intel? 17:47 Krock Megaf, yes. very energy efficient. it already cools the PC 17:48 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=146217#p146217 17:48 Calinou I wonder how can I lower my Vcore even more 17:48 Calinou the BIOS/UEFI can do it, probably 17:48 Krock "[/i]Lots " 17:48 Calinou (except most OEM motherboards… blame the OEMs for being lazy) 17:49 Megaf Calinou: I wonder using software 17:49 Calinou motherboards sold directly have much, much more setting 17:49 Calinou it's unlikely to be possible using software 17:49 Calinou especially if you wanted to set the voltage freely 17:49 Megaf john_minetest: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz 17:49 Calinou (you can probably only set a predefined power state) 17:49 Megaf if you actually use it at 3,4 GHz it will be MUCH warmer 17:49 Calinou Krock, HDD is best below 50 °C, ideally < 40 °C 17:49 Calinou so it's OK 17:49 Calinou but could be better :) 17:50 Megaf # hddtemp /dev/sda 17:50 Megaf /dev/sda: SAMSUNG HD080HJ: 50°C 17:50 Megaf # hddtemp /dev/sdb 17:50 Megaf /dev/sdb: SAMSUNG SP0842N: 45°C 17:50 Krock Calinou, okay. maybe it's because there's no fan or additional space to get a better air circulation 17:50 Megaf Calinou: HDs usually stay around 50°C 17:50 Megaf withough forced ventilation 17:51 * Krock throws http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4770+%40+3.40GHz&id=1907 at john_minetest 17:51 Krock $300 17:52 Megaf my computer is behind my 40" TV/monitor with my router, raspberry pi, odroid u3, 8 port network switch on/arround it 17:52 Calinou they should be ventilated, like everything else in general 17:52 Megaf So I think my temps are ok 17:52 Calinou some slow ventilation is much better than no ventilation at all 17:52 Calinou you should have at least 1 case fan, 2 for more powerful PCs, 3 for very powerful ones (or the ones that are in full load 24/7) 17:52 Krock john_minetest, your CPU has only a 35.76 times better benchmark than mine. I'LL TRY TO NOT CRY 17:54 Krock ok. don't need to cry. I got this PC cuz the previous owner called it "dead".. power supply was the only broken thing 17:54 Krock 17:56 Calinou Krock, if you have some money, look at used PCs some day 17:56 Calinou they have better performance/pric 17:56 Calinou +e 17:56 Megaf Krock: my dekstop CPU http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Phenom+II+X4+955&id=368 17:56 Krock Calinou, yes I know that 17:56 Calinou Megaf, mine is probably 2 × better 17:58 Megaf Calinou: in single thread newer AMDs arent much faster than mine, http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=368&cmp[]=2014 17:59 Megaf only almost twice as fast =/ 17:59 Calinou blame AMD for not caring about single thread 18:00 Calinou PenguinDad changed from a pony avatar to another pony avatar on GitHub, wow 18:00 Krock http://www.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html Intel ftw! 18:01 Calinou :( sadly 18:02 Calinou AMD's CPU future is rather bleak 18:02 Calinou same for GPU, when you look at Maxwell. 18:02 PenguinDad Calinou: it's unbelievable isn't it? :P 18:02 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix statement not set NULL on deletion 24face5 2014-06-25T20:01:29+02:00 http://git.io/5ulFig 18:02 Krock o.o http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?id=2059 18:02 Krock unbelievable^^ 18:03 Megaf at lest I got 4 true actual physical cores 18:03 Megaf least* 18:04 * PenguinDad beats Megaf with 6 physical cores 18:04 * Krock makes a roundhousekick with his single core 18:04 Megaf I might get a FX with 8 cores (4 real cores) http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=368&cmp[]=2014&cmp[]=394 18:05 Megaf at least I can turn of 3 cores and use one core at 5 GHz 18:05 Megaf just like minetestserver likes 18:06 Megaf minetestserver is made for old inneficient single core single thread high clock CPU 18:06 Megaf =/ 18:11 sapier https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9389 everyone please test latest android build 18:12 Megaf whats your CPU Krock? 18:13 Krock Intel(C) Celeron(TM) D 3.06GHz 18:13 Megaf sapier: did you fix the grey screen? 18:14 sapier No I don't even have an idea where to start lookong for it ... my assumption you lack free memory 18:14 sapier but that's a guess only 18:15 Megaf Krock: The passmark bench for your CPU is 287 18:15 sapier megaf could be some gpu issue too 18:15 Megaf Krock: the same bench for my ARM board is 2,801, running at 1,6 GHz 18:15 Megaf but my ARM actually runs at 1,7 18:15 Krock Megaf, great job. I know my benchmark 18:15 sapier e.g. some other app messing up gpu state and irrlicht missing to do correct initialization 18:15 Megaf sapier: as you can see, my ARM is much faster than Krock's CPU 18:15 Krock sapier, testing now 18:16 Megaf now please stop blaming my board for slow performance 18:16 sapier crocks cpu is about a decade old 18:16 sapier -c+k 18:16 Krock possibly, my mobile is better than myPC 18:17 sapier celeron D architecture was released in 2000 ... and it's been one of intels worst cpu designs ... there's not even a successor for it 18:17 Megaf sapier: my board is as fast as a Intel Core i7 E 610 @ 2.53GH 18:17 Megaf on the passmarck thing 18:18 sapier I don't know if passmarck is comparable for different architectures 18:18 Krock sapier, the loading bar jumps around in the display xD 18:18 Megaf Krock: my board uses the same CPU as the SAMSUNG Galaxy Note II and Galaxy Note 10.1 http://system-on-a-chip.findthebest.com/l/326/Samsung-Exynos-4-Quad-4412 18:18 sapier yes ... caveat of beeing compatible to android 2.3 18:18 Megaf Krock: it does indeed 18:19 Krock sapier, what to do if the screen is blue? 18:19 sapier what device do you try to run it? 18:19 Krock (not a BSoD, talking about mobile) 18:19 Krock Samsung Galagy S 18:19 Krock s/g/x 18:19 sapier try rebooting 18:20 Megaf Krock: I got grey screen on my Android 2.x device 18:20 sapier that's basicaly same issue megaf mentioned 18:22 Krock hmm.. is checking those folders really required eachtime? 18:22 Krock btw, sapier, blue screen again :/ 18:22 sapier strange 18:22 Krock it looks like the cloud-blue background 18:22 sapier yes 18:23 Krock maybe is a better scale needed 18:23 Krock *opens editor* 18:24 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 18:24 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down 18:24 Megaf just crashed my server doing overclock 18:26 nman3600 Krock, "/ban" isn't working properly on your server 18:26 Krock nman3600, define please in PM 18:28 sapier Krock what android version does your galaxy run atß 18:28 Krock it's working now, adjusting the scaling now 18:28 iqualfragile hey guys, which texturepacks are "in" at the moment? 18:29 sapier broken scaling causes screen to become blue? 18:29 sapier Megaf can you try this too? 18:30 markv !up minetest.org 18:30 MinetestBot minetest.org:30000 seems to be down 18:30 markv !up minetest.org 30010 18:30 MinetestBot minetest.org:30010 seems to be down 18:30 markv !up minetest.org 30020 18:30 MinetestBot minetest.org:30020 seems to be down 18:31 Krock it's down. 18:31 markv :( 18:36 Krock ok. can't get it working. once I was able to see 1/4 of the main menu, now, with same settings, it's back to the blue screen situation 18:39 sapier what android version do you have on your galaxy? 18:41 Krock sapier, 2.3.6 Gingerbread 18:41 markv I'm curious what people living 50 years ago would have to say about the conversations of this channel 18:41 Krock nothing! 18:43 sapier hmmm strange 18:43 Krock tring again with gui_scaling of 0.5, no sucess 18:43 sapier I don't think it's scaling I guess it's related to rebooting 18:44 sapier or maybe both 18:44 Krock is DLS == LSD ? 18:45 BlockMen sapier, i have same device, and same problems. only able to see mainmenu one time 18:45 markv LSD... 18:45 BlockMen setting active world, tab or something else in conf didnt help 18:45 sapier I have same issue on my 2.3 device ... does always work again after reboot 18:45 Krock one time, it worked. main menu about 1.4 timestoobig 18:45 sapier I wonder if this is a android version issue 18:46 Krock *times too big 18:46 Megaf [15:29:25] Megaf can you try this too? 18:46 Megaf Nope, I can't get to the menu 18:46 * BlockMen reboots device 18:46 * Krock does,too 18:46 sapier so it's most likely been pure chance that changing the gui size caused it to work 18:49 * Krock can't it get working 18:49 sapier do you guys know how to get logs from adb? 18:49 sapier that information could help 18:50 sapier hmm on 2.3 logcat should work 18:50 sapier can you try downloading it and get the logs? 18:51 Megaf Krock: on your android, how much RAM you have available? 18:51 Megaf you see that in manage applications/running 18:52 Megaf I got 277 MB of free RAM here 18:52 Krock Megaf, mostly about 250 MB 18:52 sapier galaxy has 512 mb ram that should me bore then enough 18:52 Megaf sapier: But I think the main issue is the available free space on device's storage 18:52 Krock hmm. It shows up 488MB as maximal 18:53 Megaf sapier: apps like Skype, Opera and Firefox I can move to sd card 18:53 sapier could be what storage do you have? sd card inserted? 18:53 Megaf but it wont show me that option to minetest 18:53 sapier yes but most of minetests data is stored on sdcard anyway 18:53 Weedy I have 900mb free ram 18:53 Megaf sapier: 1,2 GB free on sdcard 18:53 sapier should be more then enough 18:54 sapier megaf can you try logcat? maybe minetest fails to detect storage 18:54 Krock Weedy, I have 1065 MB free RAM. on my PC 18:54 Megaf sapier: nope, it did create the folder on my sd 18:55 sapier I've seen strange issues about detection resulting in different folders on different runs ... but at 4.2 not 2.3 18:55 Weedy Krock: my phone has more free ram then free sdcard space 18:55 Megaf sapier: I managed to get the debug.txt file! http://paste.debian.net/106745/ :) 18:55 Krock Weedy, that means you have a lot music or not-loaded apps:P 18:56 sapier ahhh 18:56 sapier ok that's interesting 18:56 sapier ok I may have a fix 18:56 sapier give me a second 18:56 Megaf sapier: you see I tried locking my device, pressing keys 18:58 markv I need a goal for the next few hours 18:59 Krock markv, build a cow in-game 18:59 markv I wanted to avoid minetest... 19:00 Krock markv, then goto http://usvsth3m.com/ 19:00 BlockMen sapier, logcat says failed to load and run buitlin/init.lua 19:00 markv That's a really boring site Krock :P 19:00 Krock markv, scroll down and find the games 19:00 markv I have a shiny new debian server on the network, any ideas for that? 19:01 sapier that means copying to sdcard failed 19:01 sapier or detection of sdcard folder failed 19:01 sapier can you paste the logcat output somewhere? 19:01 BlockMen is NOT RUN_IN_PLACE intentional? 19:03 Krock markv, put windows on it 19:03 markv Did you just... 19:03 sapier yes 19:03 markv You... 19:04 sapier on android there's no run in place 19:05 Megaf sapier: you said you might ghave a fix for my device? 19:06 sapier yes building right now 19:06 Megaf sapier: tell me more about it please 19:06 Megaf what do you think the problem is? 19:06 Megaf that grammar isnt quite right, is it? 19:06 Krock markv, try this: http://games.usvsth3m.com/2048/woosocrazy-edition/ 19:07 sapier I added a fix for some broken gpus recently but forgot to clear glerrors before 19:07 sapier so if any error occurs irrlicht now will do bad things with textures 19:07 markv Oh my god thank you 19:09 markv "I scored 664 in 2048: Woosocrazy Edition! Can you beat me? " 19:09 markv Shitty 19:10 markv I want to set up VNC 19:10 markv No GUI but it can start one for a VNC session 19:12 sfan5 markv: 3036 19:12 markv ... 19:12 * markv is not sad 19:12 * markv is annoyed though 19:15 sapier can you exit minetest (in blue mode) by double tapping? 19:17 * Megaf made 1884 points at the woosocrazy thing already and counting 19:21 Megaf whats a good score there? 19:21 Megaf 3524 already, how do I "die"? 19:21 sfan5 by not being able to do any moves 19:23 Megaf I see, game over, 3560 19:24 Megaf whats your score sfan5? 19:24 sfan5 markv: 3036 19:33 markv VNC> Click browser> Failed to execute child process "x-www-browser" 19:38 sapier Krock do you have galaxy S or galaxy S plus? 19:38 sapier or some other variant ;-) 19:39 Eater4 sfan5 were can I get the worldedit gui,limited,and infintt? 19:41 sfan5 Eater4: https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit 19:42 * Megaf still waiting for Minetest Android Non Grey Screen Edition 19:49 Megaf no one can't beat my odroid u3 (ARM) 19:49 MinetestBot GIT: arsdragonfly commited to minetest/minetest_game: Don't create bones if the player's inventory is empty 253af00 2014-06-25T15:46:45-04:00 http://git.io/cjNIiw 19:49 Megaf [100%] Built target minetestserver 19:49 Megaf real 0m13.994s 19:54 Megaf That was a joke 19:54 * Megaf still waiting for Minetest Android Non Grey Screen Edition 19:54 Megaf ^ sapier 19:55 sfan5 Megaf: no need to repeat yourself 19:55 sapier *g* I'm trying to fix it right now megaf the fix I thought to fix it doesn't seem to fix it for everyone 19:56 Megaf sapier: That's ok. I think my device is not important... It's old, low power and outdated 19:58 sapier well Galaxy S and S+ have been sold quite often it'd be a pitty if we can't get it work there 20:05 Megaf This should be removed and banned https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/tree/master/mesecons_movestones 20:05 Megaf it can cause lots of damage and its buggy, it crashes the server 20:06 Megaf sfan5: your avatar is not hentai, but this one is almost a hentai https://github.com/montyoso 20:06 sfan5 wat 20:07 sfan5 that is nowhere near "real" hentai 20:07 sfan5 that's ecchi 20:07 * Megaf used to like "real" hentais 20:08 markv Googling Hentai is disgusting 20:08 sfan5 real hentai what? 20:08 sfan5 you don't say? 20:09 Megaf there are good hentais, common 20:09 markv http://goo.gl/IEekGJ 20:09 sfan5 !title 20:09 MinetestBot sfan5: Document isn't HTML 20:09 markv Guess who this is 20:09 sfan5 your mom 20:10 markv Use face recognition 20:10 markv If you can 20:11 sfan5 nowaday you use google reverse image search 20:11 markv I bet you can't figure out the full name of the person in the image 20:11 sfan5 it's your mom, got it! 20:12 markv It's me you absolute fucktard 20:13 sfan5 do I care? 20:13 sfan5 no 20:14 * markv gives channel operator status to mark 20:15 markv s/mark/markv 20:15 sfan5 that's one epic fail 20:22 PenguinDad markv: your eyes look scary D: 20:22 Amaz ^ Just what I was thinking! 20:31 markv Yeah a bit 20:31 markv used the dodge tool in photoshop to brighten the midtones there 20:33 kaeza >read that as doge tool 20:34 markv kaeza, http://s8.postimg.org/44i9sfd8l/Screenshot_53.png 20:34 PenguinDad kaeza: I'm not sure how doges help with brightening up things :P 20:40 markv http://marktest.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/FSCN1429.jpg Are these called pinecones? 20:40 * markv needs to get out more 20:41 CraigyDavi Yup 20:42 Amaz Yep! 20:43 markv I've probably spelled 'silhouette' at least 4 different ways captioning these 20:54 markv http://is.gd/coughflips 20:54 markv !title 20:54 MinetestBot markv: ProMedia – Castle | Mark Test 20:54 markv Many times shortened 21:00 Amaz Warwick Castle! 21:00 * Amaz has been there 21:03 markv :) 21:03 markv nice place 21:04 * markv finds the 500mm gigantic lens on his table disturbing 21:04 markv But first! Let me take a selfie! 21:04 Amaz Yup. It is a nice place! 21:05 * markv sets up VNC and chrome on a superserver 21:05 markv Just to do speedtest.net lol 21:09 markv only 33 images left in the "buffer" 21:23 AiC how do I get 0.4.9-dev? 21:44 Jordach shots fired https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=146226#p146226 21:49 LemonLake i hop i did it rite 21:50 * blaise eats 15 lbs of spice cake 21:50 * blaise begins to vibrate 22:33 Jordach TIL i found a song from SoundHelix that was actually good but never released 22:43 Jordach finally 22:43 Jordach worked out why that sound was "scratchy" 23:22 * Jordach is busy working on something that might bring back the memories 23:26 Jordach ello Partmedia 23:26 Jordach Piggybear87 * 23:27 Piggybear87 Hello. 23:29 Jordach btw - next render might make people shit themselves over quality 23:30 kaeza too late, I already shit myself with framed glass :I 23:30 kaeza (see #-dev) 23:31 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/MTNmw8Ha_6fA.png 23:31 Jordach realistic amospheric scattering 23:31 kaeza ooo shiny 23:32 Jordach this will probably have my tower running overnight 23:32 Jordach kaeza, get cable, get happy :3 23:33 Jordach hello enchilado 23:33 Jordach Enke * 23:33 Jordach (i'm bad at this hour) 23:33 Enke Ah well. Mostly the same. 23:33 Enke :P 23:33 kaeza "at this hour" <_< 23:33 RealBadAngel Jordach, seen the video? 23:33 Jordach RealBadAngel, yes 23:33 RealBadAngel http://pastebin.com/RgfqNQct 23:33 RealBadAngel any comments? 23:33 Jordach but i still don't like the changes 23:33 RealBadAngel why? 23:34 RealBadAngel oops, wrong paste 23:34 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUtrT7UGRMI 23:42 RealBadAngel Jordach, because its not mesh drawtype? ;) 23:49 Enke RealBadAngel: That video is neat! 23:54 Exio4 ShadowNinja: OOP is so awesome that overcomplicating stuff with it is the way to go 23:55 ShadowNinja Exio4: Yes, I know. *rolls eyes*