Time Nick Message 00:00 VanessaE Jordach: also, 6.133 GB with HDX 256 at Creative's spawn after pitching and panning my view around and letting every last bit of map around me load up 00:00 VanessaE no preload, all settings enabled except for parallax, have not opened the inventory yet. 00:01 Exio4 i always use preload 00:01 Exio4 no idea why 00:01 Exio4 lets see how much MT uses here 00:02 VanessaE Jordach: how do you fare with 256? 00:02 VanessaE do the same as I did, Creative spawn, just pan/pitch around, let it all load up, but don't walk around 00:03 Mallot1 hey guys sorry if i made you angry at me 00:03 Exio4 why isn't minetest using a whole core while preloading item textures 00:03 Exio4 it doesn't even use 60% 00:03 Exio4 two thirds of my CPU.. don't even that 00:04 awesomedevguy its alright Mallot1 :) 00:04 Mallot1 :D :) 00:04 Exio4 can you talk with yourself in another channel? 00:04 Mallot1 awesomedevguy: what do you develop? :) 00:05 VanessaE no one's angry at you Mallot1. Just please stop talking about non-Minetest stuff in here when the conversation is clearly going about important stuff related to it. 00:05 VanessaE (it's okay to go off-topic if the rest of us already are) 00:05 Mallot1 oh ok :) 00:05 Mallot1 see ya 00:06 Mallot1 and thanls 00:06 Mallot1 *thanks 00:06 Exio4 VanessaE: how well is your system behaving with hdx-128 + item preloading? 00:06 * Mallot1 is AFC 00:06 Exio4 s/your system/minetest/ 00:06 Exio4 in your setup 00:06 VanessaE Exio4: I don't use the 128px size, and I don't use preload. lemme see what the 256px size does, but first I'll turn on some swap :P 00:09 Exio4 that is why i asked you, 128px is "small" then use preload, then 256px size and the we extrapolate 00:10 VanessaE Exio4: well as you saw, Jordach was able to run HDX512 with 5 GB RAM usage. I could even get it to stay within 10GB. 00:10 VanessaE unless he was not using aniso/mip-map mode 00:10 VanessaE I know that takes some RAM 00:11 VanessaE (not sure how much, I seem to recall around 25% more?) 00:11 Exio4 in your survival server, item preload + hdx-128 is 4.5gb~ of ram 00:11 Exio4 with "max settings" 00:12 VanessaE windows or linux? 00:12 Exio4 linux of course 00:12 Exio4 that is why i asked you 00:12 VanessaE got windows handy somewhere to try the same thing? 00:12 Exio4 a w7 VM 00:12 VanessaE try it. 00:12 VanessaE I'm genuinely curious. 00:13 Exio4 which windows build is the "newest"? 00:13 Eater4 The one on the website? 00:13 VanessaE Exio4: sfan5 has recent builds on his forum page 00:13 Exio4 -dev build 00:13 Exio4 k, will check them 00:13 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1523 00:14 Exio4 i hope 8gb of ram are enough for the VM 00:14 Piggybear87 Red head + 6 hour fishing trip (starting at noon) + NO sunblock = PPPPPAAAAAAIIIIIINNNNNNN!!!!!!! 00:14 Piggybear87 I'm such an idiot... 00:15 Exio4 i forced my system to swap a bit 00:15 Exio4 (for keeping some cache free) 00:17 Piggybear87 Second EXACT trip (except one was fresh one was salt) in 3 days... Burn, on top of burn... GOD! I hurt! 00:19 Exio4 my poor cpu is at 40C :( 00:19 VanessaE sowwy :) 00:19 Exio4 this is the sad part: /dev/sda4 756G 750G 6.8G 100% /home 00:19 Exio4 my /home is nearly full 00:19 Piggybear87 GOSH!* I apologize to the religious people. I don't mean to offend. :) 00:20 VanessaE I'm moving files off to spinning rust now to make room for some decent amount of swap on the SSD. 00:21 VanessaE (it's all crap that doesn't need low-latency/high-bandwidth access anyway) 00:21 VanessaE Piggybear87: damn, that's gotta suck :( 00:21 Exio4 basically everything but the system itself 00:21 VanessaE Exio4: not quite :P 00:21 Piggybear87 VanessaE, Yeah... Lol. 00:22 VanessaE just stuff in my homedir that isn't actively used much 00:22 VanessaE old coin wallets, website stuff, images, etc. 00:22 VanessaE 'round about 50GB of excess 00:22 Exio4 i would say music, images, webbrowser profiles, coding stuff (source files, executables files, etc) 00:23 Exio4 ~/.minetest could be in a SSD 00:23 Exio4 but minetest's sources.. why 00:24 Exio4 compiling is normally cpu-bounded, not IO-bounded ;P 00:24 Exio4 anyway, 10min left 00:24 Exio4 where is the ~/.minetest/cache in windows? 00:25 VanessaE there, 43 GB moved. 00:25 VanessaE went from 70GB in my homedir to 27. 00:26 Exio4 my homedir is 756 GB and 480gb~ are music 00:26 Exio4 then 200~ are backups of old harddisks i have around but could break at any moment 00:26 Exio4 (basically easier access for my old data) 00:26 Exio4 i need a RAID 10 now 00:26 Exio4 before even buying ram, a new cpu, a fan, a psu, or anything 00:26 VanessaE well 27GB of homedir, plus another 343 of "storage" and a terabyte of backup media 00:27 Exio4 two fucking harddisks 00:27 VanessaE (storage contains music etc) 00:27 Exio4 2tb and a damn mirror raid for now though 00:28 * VanessaE turns on 16GB of swap now. 00:28 Exio4 swap ftw 00:28 VanessaE 43 GB out, 16 GB in, net gain 27 GB :) 00:29 Exio4 -/+ buffers/cache: 10370 1619 00:29 Exio4 Swap: 16383 60 16323 00:29 Exio4 here ^ 00:29 Exio4 12gb of ram, 16gb of swap in a poor hdd 00:30 Exio4 where is the slow part, sfan5's server or my network 00:30 VanessaE Mem: 16433256 16218588 214668 48336 247984 12751372 00:30 VanessaE -/+ buffers/cache: 3219232 13214024 00:30 VanessaE Swap: 16777212 0 16777212 00:30 Exio4 free -m :P 00:31 VanessaE here goes nothin' 00:32 VanessaE running minetest with HDX512 again. 00:32 VanessaE 8.5GB so far. 00:32 VanessaE 9 00:33 VanessaE amazingly, it ain't crashing 00:33 Exio4 see! :P 00:33 Exio4 swap is good! 00:33 VanessaE well thing is, there's only 360 KB of swap in use. 00:33 VanessaE and yet there's 178 MB of free RAM 00:34 VanessaE minetest's frame rate utterly sucks ass though 00:34 VanessaE like 2 fps 00:34 VanessaE probably because my video card lacks the RAM to handle it 00:35 VanessaE so far, I'm up to 12GB of RAM used, and now it's diving pretty good into swap 00:35 VanessaE almost a gig in there. 00:35 VanessaE yet there's STILL some RAM free. weird. 00:36 VanessaE 12 GB now. 00:36 VanessaE oh, already said that. 00:36 VanessaE 13.9 virtual, btw. 00:37 VanessaE shall I close it now? :) 00:38 EvergreenTree yes, probably 00:38 EvergreenTree :P 00:39 EvergreenTree what cpu are you using VanessaE? 00:39 VanessaE 14.267 GB virtual now, and I haven't done anything but stand here at the spawn, looking around. 00:39 EvergreenTree is it an amd? 00:39 VanessaE EvergreenTree: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (2.8 GHz) w/16GB RAM, and an ATI HD6870 GPU with 1GB onboard. 00:40 EvergreenTree ah 00:40 EvergreenTree I have an AMD FX-4300 (3.8ghz) w/4GB RAM and an AMMD Radeon 7750 00:40 EvergreenTree with 1gb of vram 00:43 Exio4 i hate sfan5's server 00:44 VanessaE why? 00:45 EvergreenTree sfan5 has a server? 00:46 Exio4 http://sfan5.pf-control.de/minetest-builds/minetest_64/minetest-0.4.9-cb3b42e-win64.7z downloading this file is a pain 00:46 Exio4 i tried downloading it in the windows vm 00:46 Exio4 i'm going to download it in the host with wget --continue 00:46 VanessaE what's wrong with it? 00:46 VanessaE looks like an ordinary file link to me 00:46 Exio4 it stops downloading randomly 00:46 VanessaE ohhhh 00:47 Exio4 first it was at 20kb then 9mb then 13mb 00:47 Exio4 and it is also slow as hell, no idea why 00:47 Exio4 my network is shit, but it can do more than 20kb/s 00:48 Exio4 man, closures and high order functions combined with lambda functions are full awesomeness 00:52 awesomess3 can servers carry malware? 00:52 EvergreenTree no 00:52 VanessaE they can carry it but they can't pass it onto clients. 00:52 VanessaE or rather, 00:52 EvergreenTree nothing that can harm your computer anyway 00:52 awesomess3 some servers hang at: "Media..." 00:52 VanessaE they can carry it, and they can pass it on to clients, but the clients can't actually DO anything with it. 00:52 VanessaE awesomess3: that's just minetest glitchiness. 00:53 EvergreenTree awesomess3: that's just because they either have a ton of textures/mods, or it is just minetest being silly 00:53 VanessaE awesomess3: my creative and survival servers have some 35 GB of media to transfer 00:53 VanessaE so clients will sit there in the "Media" step for a long while. 00:53 Exio4 35GB? 00:54 VanessaE yep 00:54 Exio4 i hope you mean 35MB 00:54 VanessaE er 35 MB 00:54 VanessaE yeah :) 00:55 VanessaE 33 MB, to be exact. 00:55 Exio4 that is better ;P 00:55 awesomess3 oh jeez. WoW takes 26.8 GB 00:55 EvergreenTree why hello there Enke 00:55 VanessaE awesomess3: sorry, typo. it's 33 MB, not GB. :P 00:55 LazyJ What reasons are there to compile Minetest with cmake_build_type minsizerel? The README says that it will make the executable smaller but what's the advantage/disadvantage? 00:55 VanessaE no idea LazyJ 00:56 LazyJ What!? I've stumped the mavin of Minetest? :0)- 00:56 awesomess3 probably minimal assembly is my guess LazyJ 00:58 awesomess3 gcc compile flags are strange in my opinion. -O2, -O3 for example, are different optimizations that have different advantages that are strange. Some make the executable smaller, some make the program more faster, but all in all, the effects are minimal, *shrugs* 00:59 LazyJ Hmmm... so it's probably one of those things that isn't practical but it there just because we can. 00:59 LazyJ *it's there just... 01:00 Sokomine perhaps it is relevant under some conditions 01:00 Sokomine it's amazing that mt runs on android devices as well. that's far less good hardware than a desktop 01:01 awesomess3 VanessaE, I looked at the server list, and I usually choose your servers to join, but is it true that there are like 0 or 1 people in the game? 01:01 VanessaE yup 01:01 awesomess3 VanessaE, you've got like 6 servers 01:01 LazyJ mHmm... I'd like to get my hands on an android of my own but I don't want to spend the money on a monthly phone contract. 01:01 VanessaE I have 7 servers, and they aren't played much lately. 01:02 awesomess3 :( 01:02 Mallot1_ LazyJ: you don't need a contract 01:02 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats.html 01:02 VanessaE bottom graph. 01:02 LazyJ Quantity of players isn't the same as quality of players. 01:02 Sokomine they ought to be frequented more, those servers. they are good ones 01:02 Mallot1_ LazyJ: if you get a tablet. I have a tablet myself you can get one from Walmart for $80 RCA 01:03 LazyJ I'd rather have a small group of well behaved players than a chaotic day-care center of brats. 01:03 Sokomine that's true as well. opening a new server to everyone will make a bunch of tablet users join which usually have anything in mind but building something 01:03 Mallot1_ i find it hard to build on Buildcraft but i got used to it 01:03 Mallot1_ can't find any servers though 01:04 Sokomine mallot1: try sapiers latest build. that's at least a more or less official one 01:04 awesomess3 I do like single player though, it's kind of scary being alone though...in a static world... 01:04 Mallot1_ oh cool thanks Sokomine :D 01:04 LazyJ I'm curious but I know I'd have to choose between putting the tablet down to have my coffee and donut or play Minetest. ;)- 01:04 Sokomine and yes, i have difficulty controlling building with that android client as well. it's very diffrent from mouse and keyboard. amazing that people sometimes manage to build something with it at all 01:04 Mallot1_ i built a dirt house 01:05 Mallot1_ and tested a dirt to lava mod for fun 01:05 Sokomine awesomess3: mob mods help. try sapiers animals modpack (mobf). it works well in singleplayer. you'll find the occasional trader and many mobs 01:05 Mallot1_ needless to say it crashed ;) 01:05 Sokomine my random_buildings mod may also be of intrest. it adds lumberjacks that will try to sell you wood 01:06 Mallot1_ Sokomine: the one with the villagers? 01:06 Sokomine they're not yet villagers in my mod. traders exist, and houses for villages exist, but they do not spawn in combination yet 01:06 VanessaE Mallot1, stop changing names. 01:06 Mallot1 oh sorry 01:07 Mallot1 oh must of been a different mod :) 01:07 Sokomine i'm experimenting with nores mapgen lately as that integrates villages very well into the map. adventuretest spawns villagers 01:07 Mallot1 cool :D 01:07 Mallot1 i hope one day villagers and the cool workers mod get added to the game 01:09 VanessaE they won't. 01:09 VanessaE minetest_game is dead. 01:09 Mallot1 so here not developing it anyone? 01:09 Mallot1 *there 01:09 Mallot1 *anymore 01:09 VanessaE they're* 01:09 Mallot1 aw man xD 01:10 VanessaE no, it's frozen. 01:10 VanessaE no one wants to touch it 01:10 VanessaE and as for the engine, everyone's obsessed with the G*d damned server. 01:10 Mallot1 aw 01:10 Mallot1 i hope we see 1.0.0 though 01:10 VanessaE the client is being left to rot whilst at the same time being buried under features that, while very nice to see, don't help its performance any 01:10 VanessaE and yes, I'm pissed. 01:11 EvergreenTree evergreen.shutdown("Cya") 01:11 EvergreenTree Cya 01:11 VanessaE ciao 01:12 Mallot1 peace 01:12 Mallot1 return 0; 01:13 Piggybear87 NO ONE SEEDS THE SHIZNIT I ACTUALLY WANT! 01:13 Enke VanessaE: Sorry if you answered before and I missed it, but is there a list or compilation of homedecor's recipes? 01:13 Mallot1 like what 01:14 Mallot1 Piggybear87 ^^ 01:14 VanessaE Enke: http://minetest-home-decor.wikia.com/wiki/Minetest_Home_Decor_Wiki 01:14 Piggybear87 Jawga Boyz - Kuntry 01:14 Enke Thank you. 01:14 Mallot1 never heard of it 01:14 Piggybear87 There's 1 song I want from the album. It's called Ridin High. 01:15 Piggybear87 If you're redneck AT ALL (and like rap), I suggest you youtube it. 01:15 Mallot1 Maroon5 - Maps is pretty good 01:15 Mallot1 sorry man no redness of the neck here xD 01:16 Piggybear87 Lol. I mean if you like country, the country lifestyle, or fried chicken. Lmfao! 01:16 Piggybear87 OR! 01:16 Mallot1 lol :D 01:16 Piggybear87 OR! 01:16 Piggybear87 OR! 01:16 Mallot1 OR! 01:16 Mallot1 ||! 01:16 Piggybear87 If you like cars/trucks 01:17 Piggybear87 . 01:17 Piggybear87 Jacked up trucks to be exact. 01:18 Mallot1 this cars tight: http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&docid=RTFX-lWLE-ZVpM&tbnid=nLP-fIrHW9ey3M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fteamspeed.com%2Fforums%2Fporsches-past-general-porsche-news%2F873-all-shades-blue-offered-porsche.html&ei=z-igU5rdC7LFsATm64DgAg&bvm=bv.69137298,d.cWc&psig=AFQjCNGW7jYtkmzIVZwZfRKfm_403_eozw&ust=1403140676764041 01:19 Mallot1 well i was a blue proche 01:19 Mallot1 porche 01:19 Piggybear87 No... 01:21 Mallot1 well anyone host any new servers lately? 01:28 Piggybear87 FINALLY! I found a site that has seeders for that damn album... All of this trouble for 1 stupid song! 01:28 Mallot1 you could ofo got it on youtube probably though ;) 01:32 Piggybear87 I want it on a CD, I can listen to it on Youtube if I'm at home, but not in the car. 01:33 Mallot1 you could take download the video 01:33 Mallot1 then take the .mp4 and convert it to .mp3 or wav or your choice. then burn it to a CD :) 01:36 Piggybear87 Too much work for a song. Lol. 01:38 asl piggybear: youtube-dl -x link 01:39 asl that isn't much, just one line of code to type in the terminal 01:39 Mallot1 piggybear no only takes 10 minutes and you have a whole CD now :D 01:41 VanessaE Mallot1: take mp4 -> mp3 -> CD? FAIL. Rip mp4 -> WAV -> CD. Or just save the mp4 audio and play it in your "mp3" player directly. 01:41 VanessaE (most of them will play mp4 audio just fine) 01:42 Mallot1 yeah i know, i wanted it to work on 90% of devices 01:42 VanessaE mp4 works on 95% of devices. 01:42 Mallot1 hmm i didn't know that 01:42 Mallot1 well u learn something new everyday :D 01:42 Exio4 i'd use "high quality mp3" 01:42 VanessaE besides, don't go mp4 -> mp3 because that introduces an extra layer of lossy conversion unless you're able to actually extract raw mp3 audio from the file. 01:43 asl the thing is that youtube encode the audio to a lower quality 01:43 Exio4 the mp4 already has shitty quality 01:43 Exio4 if you want to listen nice stuff search it in TPB 01:43 Exio4 nice quality stuff* 01:44 Exio4 oh 01:44 Exio4 yeah, you're torrenting 01:44 Exio4 +1 for that :D 01:44 VanessaE I used to 01:44 VanessaE got yelled at by some copyright group for downloading an episode of House once. 01:44 VanessaE decided to just not bother after that. 01:45 VanessaE now if I want some song, I rip it from youtube or last.fm or so. 01:45 Exio4 torrent over an offshore VPS 01:46 Exio4 internet <-> VPS <-> you 01:46 VanessaE if I were gonna pay for an offshore VPS, I'd just pay for the damn music :P 01:46 Exio4 a low-end VPS is very cheap 01:46 Exio4 anyway, magnatune <3 01:51 Exio4 i just realized my VM was still running so i installed mt and now i'll check the ram usage 01:52 Exio4 translated minetest sucks 01:52 Exio4 english mt > spanish mt 01:52 VanessaE define "sucks" 01:53 Exio4 stuff doesn't feel right, i'm too used to the english words 01:53 Mallot1 there's a spanish MT? 01:53 VanessaE oh translated, literally :P 01:53 VanessaE I thought you meant figuratively 01:53 Mallot1 i never saw it on the site 01:53 VanessaE so how's the mem usage compared to the same conditions in the linux build? 01:53 Exio4 loading 01:54 Exio4 850mb and going up 01:54 Exio4 way slower than under linux though 01:54 Exio4 poor FX 01:55 Exio4 hahah 01:55 Exio4 HAHAHA, i made jackd crash \o/ 01:56 VanessaE heh 01:58 Exio4 1.2gb of ram usage and rising 01:59 Exio4 4 minutes was 350 mb 01:59 VanessaE jeesh 01:59 Exio4 but keeps rising 02:00 Exio4 i guess this is caused by the slow virtualized cpu 02:00 Exio4 my host system runs at full speed 02:01 Exio4 1.350mb 02:01 Exio4 compared to 4~ in linux 02:02 VanessaE what texture size? 02:02 VanessaE what what settings are you using? 02:02 Exio4 hdx-128 02:03 Exio4 the difference between both setups where shaders, 3d clouds and particles 02:03 VanessaE hm 02:03 Exio4 (the one i thought that don't cause a lot of ram usage?) 02:04 Exio4 i can connect again with all the settings 02:04 VanessaE afaik the only setting in-game that can cause some RAM usage is mip-map + anisotropic filter 02:04 Exio4 connecting again 02:04 VanessaE + bumpmapping if you have the normaps pack 02:04 Exio4 item preloading remember 02:04 VanessaE normalmaps( 02:05 VanessaE well that too but I meant extra settings - items will load up eventually anyway just by paging through your inventory. 02:05 VanessaE and playign the game etc. 02:06 VanessaE so turn on *everything* in both host and guest that they are both capable of and compare RAM usage. also try the 256px pack. 02:06 Exio4 host = everything enabled = 30 FPS 02:06 Exio4 guest = everything disabled = 3 FPS 02:06 Exio4 :D 02:06 Exio4 i turned on everything in guest 02:06 Exio4 i'm trying with 128 02:06 VanessaE export CXXFLAGS="-O3" 02:06 VanessaE cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 02:06 VanessaE my build settings ^^^^ 02:07 Exio4 i only used -DENABLE_CURL=1 02:07 Exio4 in host 02:08 Exio4 400~ ram of swap used 02:08 Exio4 the system works like nothing every happened 02:08 Piggybear87 !up minetest.org 30011 02:08 MinetestBot minetest.org:30011 is up (873ms) 02:08 Exio4 mb 02:08 Exio4 i would like more ram though 02:08 VanessaE try that again, Exio4.. grammar FAIL :) 02:09 Exio4 downloadmoreram.com 02:10 Exio4 1gb atm, still loading 02:13 Exio4 using the same ram as before 02:13 VanessaE that's in the guest? 02:13 Exio4 1.3 02:13 Exio4 yeah 02:13 Exio4 windows vm 02:14 VanessaE and what's linux do again with the same texture pack and settings? 02:14 VanessaE 4+ GB? 02:14 Exio4 4gb a bit more 02:14 VanessaE and you're dead certain that the windows guest is able to use ALL of the same features linux is? 02:15 Exio4 actually more 02:15 Exio4 [21:11:30] in your survival server, item preload + hdx-128 is 4.5gb~ of ram 02:15 VanessaE ? 02:15 Exio4 [21:11:56] with "max settings" 02:15 Exio4 lemme recheck 02:17 Exio4 *** Error in `./bin/minetest': corrupted double-linked list: 0x0000000002f17fc0 *** 02:17 Exio4 wtf is this 02:17 Exio4 is this a known bug 02:18 Exio4 a crash that came from nonwhere "corrupted double-linked list" 02:18 Exio4 and i can't reproduce 02:19 VanessaE that's a glibc trap is all I know about that one 02:19 VanessaE but idk the cause 02:20 Exio4 running two minetests 02:20 Exio4 one in host and one in guest with exaxt same settings 02:20 VanessaE hah 02:20 VanessaE out of memory :D 02:20 Exio4 nah 02:20 Exio4 host = 5gb (aproximation) + vm (5gb) 02:20 Exio4 =10gb 02:23 Exio4 40% of cpu usage (average of all cpus) 02:25 VanessaE so the linux build is still using ~4 times as much RAM as the windows build? 02:25 Exio4 3.5~ :P 02:26 VanessaE close enough 02:26 VanessaE please, go mention this in -dev 02:26 Exio4 1.2 -> 4.5 02:26 VanessaE in GREAT detail 02:26 Exio4 3.75 02:26 VanessaE this shit needs documented that I'm not the only one with this problem 02:26 Exio4 great detail? 02:26 VanessaE yes 02:26 VanessaE settings used, texture packs used, OS's involved, etc etc etc 02:27 VanessaE I'm tired of everyone thinking I'm the only one who has these problems, and it's always because no one else (besides you and Jordach) ever bothers to fucking TRY. 02:28 VanessaE and when they DO try, they don't try hard enough to reproduce the problem 02:28 Exio4 lemme check a last thing 02:28 VanessaE and when they start to come close, "oh, well I'm too to deal with this now" or "well I don't care about this anyway." 02:30 Exio4 the VM is still connecting 02:31 VanessaE Just to rule it out: I turned off aniso, mipmap, trilinear because I know they take a small amount of RAM. my FPS shot WAY back up probably because my GPU can actually handle the load now, but it's still using over 12 GB of RAM. 02:32 VanessaE 13 now. 02:33 * VanessaE turns off the normalmaps. 02:35 VanessaE 9.5 GB without normalmaps. 02:35 VanessaE that's as lean as I can make it. 02:35 VanessaE that's still almost twice as much as Jordach was using WITH normalmaps! 02:40 Exio4 ehm 02:40 Exio4 what happens when shaders aren't supported? 02:40 Exio4 red screen, no? 02:41 VanessaE yeah 02:42 Exio4 kk 02:46 Exio4 ram usage went to 1.8 in the win build o.O 02:46 Exio4 the same as the ram usage when i disabled shaders 02:47 Exio4 thhat is why i asked VanessaE 02:47 Exio4 i should sleep though 02:49 VanessaE ok then, good night, and thanks for reporting that in the channel 03:00 Mallot1 goodnight :) 03:04 Piggybear87 but it's still using over 12 GB of RAM 03:04 Piggybear87 Holy hell! 03:06 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1386 03:09 Piggybear87 Wow, what a rant. Lol. I don't have that much, if it tried that with me, my machine would melt like an ice cube in hell... Lol. 03:15 Piggybear87 Good night all. I will leave this on, if you need something PM me and I'll get it in the morning. 05:26 sfan5 Exio4: complain to http://php-friends.de/ about shitty dl speeds 06:09 they_greefed_my_ hi on a server with 'protector' mode how do I make a protection node ? 06:09 they_greefed_my_ protector mod 06:10 they_greefed_my_ I have looked through the wiki/forum posts and web searched for details but can find none 06:30 VanessaE they_greefed_my_: sounds like glomies old protection mod 06:30 VanessaE I didn't know anyone still used that 06:31 VanessaE I think you use a square of silver ingots to make the protection node 06:45 they_greefed_my_ hi on a server with 'protector' mod , how do I make a protection node ? I have looked through the wiki/forum posts and web searched for details but can find none 06:46 they_greefed_my_ ah just saw your answer V 06:46 they_greefed_my_ thank you I'll give it a try :-) 07:01 nman3600 markv: I've reached maximum amount of land i can protect can i make another account to protect more? 07:11 nman3600 OldCoder I've reached maximum amount of land i can protect can i make another account to protect more? (this is on marks server btw) 07:11 OldCoder nman3600, let markv decide. I have no objection but it's a significant policy decision. 07:11 nman3600 I need to claim more land for making pixel art which mark said he'll give me supermoderator if he likes it 07:12 nman3600 I've asked markv 07:12 OldCoder If you wish to do this tonight, go ahead and tell markv I said O.K. 07:12 OldCoder Ah 07:12 OldCoder Well, I have no objection 07:12 OldCoder Have fun 07:12 OldCoder I should shut down the server in a while for backups 07:12 OldCoder Things are in transition 07:12 OldCoder In about an hour O.K. with you? Down for about 15 minutes possibly 07:13 nman3600 I've got school in 15 mins 07:13 OldCoder !! 07:14 OldCoder Well, not significant then 07:14 nman3600 I'll speak to mark when i get back from school 07:14 OldCoder Should be up after school 07:14 OldCoder Unless moving 07:14 OldCoder See you 07:14 nman3600 My room is such a small place it's hard to plan things in here 07:15 OldCoder Hm? 07:15 OldCoder kk 07:17 nman3600 Hey asie 07:18 asie hi 08:46 kaeza mornings 10:05 Jordach i see a kaeza 10:10 kaeza hai 10:11 Jordach :3 10:13 Jordach wtf twitter. 10:41 Jordach mornin Krock 10:41 Krock moin 10:41 Krock eh noons 12:17 Megaf Hi 12:17 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003 12:17 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (439ms) 12:55 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix issue #1275 - one more missing check. c380563a12 2014-06-18T14:53:43+02:00 http://git.io/04TeEA 13:11 Krock 2 hours almost-silence 13:11 Krock AAAAAAAA 13:12 * Krock MAKES SOME NOISE 13:13 * Exio4 slaps Krock 13:13 * Krock SLAPS Exio4 13:16 * Taoki is currently working on adding a personality system to my fork of SimpleMobs :) 13:17 Krock s/my/his 13:17 Krock your F7 key is broken 13:17 Krock ^ Taoki 13:17 Taoki ? 13:18 Krock Taoki, F7 is 3rd person. "..system to my fork.." is 1st person 13:19 Krock therefore, F7 broken 13:25 Krock Weird bug.. wireless symbol shows up "Disconnected" but description sais "Connected to network foobar" 13:26 Exio4 F7? 13:26 Krock 3rd person view ^ 13:29 Krock Jordach, I should try to do what you did with 2GB RAM and see if system crashes or not :3 13:29 Exio4 ah 13:35 Taoki lol, I thought I'm seeing the wrong channel when I read everypony :) 13:35 Taoki and hi! 13:35 Krock Hay john! 13:37 Krock To anyone: Should [img] tags switch to [url] automatically when quoting a text? 13:37 Krock s/anyone/everypony 13:37 Exio4 how do i increase my view range 13:37 Krock + and - 13:37 Exio4 decrease is -, and + doesn't seem to work :( 13:37 Krock numpad 13:37 Exio4 fff 13:37 Exio4 in numpad, i see 13:38 Krock works? 13:38 kaeza IWFM 13:39 Krock International Women's Media Foundation 13:39 Exio4 yeah, numpad's + works 13:39 Krock wait. that's F and M exchanged 13:39 Krock ok 13:39 Exio4 it works for me 13:40 Krock IWFM: Integrated Water Flow Model 13:40 kaeza you fail 13:40 Krock nope.avi 13:41 Krock let's see how much meanings "XYZ" has 13:42 Krock many 13:45 Exio4 http://www.nr.com/CS395T/lectures2008/20-MultidimInterp.pdf \o/ 13:46 Krock ugh 13:46 Krock TL;DR alert 13:46 Krock much images 13:47 Krock noise! 14:47 nman3600 Heyo 14:47 nman3600 Krock, I was going to make a gold to copper shop on your server but you've done it already :( 14:48 Krock gold to copper doesn't exist afaik 14:48 nman3600 Krock, you've got a steel to copper though 14:48 MinetestBot GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Update buildbot scripts and add 64-bit buildbot ce9f1e1d3c 2014-06-18T16:40:24+02:00 http://git.io/SAe9RA 14:48 Krock y 14:48 * Krock points at inchra.net 14:49 nman3600 inchra.net points at Krock 14:50 nman3600 markv, Can i make another account on your server to claim the other pixel arts i've made? 14:56 nman3600 !tell markv Please can you come on your server ASAP (i've got a few probs and some things to show you) 14:56 MinetestBot nman3600: I'll pass that on when markv is around 15:07 Eater4 Does anyone know how to get the damn faction mod to work 15:09 Eater4 Hello? Anyone??? 15:14 PenguinDad Hello everypony! 15:14 Eater4 Shit 15:15 Krock hi 15:15 Eater4 I need someone that knows how to work with spapers faction mod 15:19 nman3600 Krock can i make a coal to copper shop on your server (even though there's already a copper shop) 15:19 Krock I'll take my AK47 and kill you with one shoot if you do that 15:19 Krock ^opposite 15:20 nman3600 Krock so i can? 15:20 Krock no. you can 15:21 nman3600 Yay i can 15:23 * Piggybear87 just formatted his spare 82GB HDD and it's almost full... 15:24 * Piggybear87 needs more HDDs... 15:24 * Krock gives Piggybear87 his 120 MB HDD 15:24 * sfan5 purrs at Krock 15:24 sfan5 hi everyone 15:24 Krock *125 MB actually 15:24 Krock hi sfan5 15:25 * Piggybear87 throws that not even flash drive sized HDD back at Krock's face.../ 15:25 Piggybear87 Lol 15:26 Krock my newest and shortest lived HDD hat 250 GB space 15:26 Krock *had 15:26 * sfan5 throws a 16GB USB 3.0 drive at kaeza 15:26 kaeza wat 15:26 Piggybear87 I WAS going to get a 2TB, but, I need glasses. 15:27 Piggybear87 kaeza, he threw part of his pron collection to you. Have fun! ;) 15:27 kaeza glasses to read the HDD? :D 15:27 Krock lol 15:27 Krock glasses to see the screen 15:27 Piggybear87 Lol, no, to see my screen... 15:27 Krock ^^ 15:28 Piggybear87 I had some, but they broke. 15:28 Piggybear87 Now I have to sit <1" from the screen to see it.. 15:28 * Piggybear87 is a bat with no sonar... 15:28 * Krock <3 ATAPI 15:29 PenguinDad Piggybear87: bats actually have quite goof eyes 15:29 PenguinDad *good 15:30 Piggybear87 Where's ShadowBot? I was going to do "<3 ShaadowBot" but I noticed it's not there. 15:30 Piggybear87 That's not what I leaned, but, OK. 15:30 PenguinDad <3 MinetestBot 15:30 MinetestBot <3 PenguinDad 15:30 Krock Rest In Pie shadowbot 15:30 Piggybear87 Lol. 15:32 Piggybear87 Why are there so many lurkers here? I just looked through the user list and noticed that I've never seen most of these people talk. 15:32 Jordach because idlers 15:32 Exio4 Piggybear87: i'm not a lurker, i'm just stalkin' you all 15:32 Krock let's ping someone 15:32 Krock grrk-bzzt 15:33 Piggybear87 Like, why do they even mark away? Lol. They don't talk, we won't notice they're gone. Lol. 15:33 nman3600 Krock, Restart? 15:33 Exio4 because they could talk in another channel 15:33 Exio4 nyuszika7h: ^ lurker 15:33 nyuszika7h hi 15:33 Krock hi 15:34 nman3600 Krock the FPS lag has hit your server, Restart Please 15:34 Piggybear87 Enke, I like your rims. Lol. 15:34 Krock nman3600, how can a server have FPS lag? 15:34 Krock it's running on console! 15:34 nman3600 Krock FPS goes down for most players 15:35 Krock not a server problem 15:35 nman3600 but still it's really laggy 15:35 Piggybear87 Crap, I read his name wrong, the rims are spelled "Enkei"... 15:36 nman3600 Krock, Please restart it 15:36 Enke Piggybear87: Wrong! Go to the corner! 15:37 nman3600 Ahh thanks Krock 15:37 Piggybear87 I know I know... I'm ashamed, I love those rims... 15:40 Piggybear87 YAAAAAYYYYYUUUUUHHHHHH! I just got may favorite non-car-related movie of all time! 15:40 nman3600 markv, you here? 15:41 Piggybear87 AND it's sequel! Oh Yeah! :) 15:47 kaeza sfan5, for whatever reason it's not letting me download MT builds from your server. they start downloading OK, but get stuck somewhere on the 50% mark 15:47 markv Hey everyone 15:47 MinetestBot markv: 06-18 14:56 UTC Please can you come on your server ASAP (i've got a few probs and some things to show you) 15:47 Krock (*.pf-control.de servers always work) 15:48 markv nman3600, DON'T USE tell! 15:48 markv I have ZNC 15:48 nman3600 Lol 15:48 markv Just message me and I will see that first, I don't always post to #minetest 15:49 Krock yeah. private chats also exist. 15:49 markv !tell nman3600 Stop using !tell 15:49 MinetestBot markv: I'll pass that on when nman3600 is around 15:49 nman3600 lol 15:49 MinetestBot nman3600: 06-18 15:49 UTC Stop using !tell 15:49 markv !tell nman3600 Stop using tell! 15:49 MinetestBot markv: I'll pass that on when nman3600 is around 15:49 sfan5 !ignore markv 15:49 nman3600 seriously now 15:49 MinetestBot nman3600: 06-18 15:49 UTC Stop using tell! 15:49 MinetestBot sfan5: 'markv' added to ignore list. 15:49 sfan5 !ignore nman3600 15:49 markv Gotta use proper syntax 15:49 MinetestBot sfan5: 'nman3600' added to ignore list. 15:50 nman3600 sfan5: Whai me? 15:50 nman3600 Mark did i lag the server out 15:50 m5 yes 15:50 sfan5 nman3600: you did nothing.. right 15:50 m5 A lot 15:50 Krock that happens when you talk a lot and use some bot commands 15:50 nman sfan5: you ignored me aswell 15:50 sfan5 !unignore nman3600 15:50 MinetestBot sfan5: 'nman3600' removed from ignore list. 15:50 m5 Which is why I didn't let you have creative at first 15:51 nman3600 m5 i was unclaiming all that land and the command has loaded yet 15:51 kaeza http://i.imgur.com/pam9VFC.jpg 15:51 kaeza :( 15:51 Krock sfan5, could you add a !give command to MinetestBot? I'd like to have this feature because ShadowBot gone :/ 15:51 LemonLake nman3600: there's another chan for server discussions 15:51 sfan5 Krock: maybe 15:51 LemonLake nman3600: correction: another server 15:51 Krock hmm okay 15:51 LemonLake this is not the place for it 15:51 m5 ~give markv steam 15:52 Krock ... I'd like to have this feature because >>>>ShadowBot gone<<< :/ 15:52 * Krock headdesks 15:52 m5 Oh yea... 15:53 nman3600 I want ShadowBot back 15:53 m5 !unignore markv 15:53 Krock kaeza, [Win] + [R], "iexplore "-> hacky way 15:53 Krock too bad 15:53 nman3600 m5, I've unclaimed them now 15:54 m5 Stop using creative 15:54 m5 Get out of the interface 15:54 m5 Then I can join 15:54 Krock hint: /kick 15:54 nman3600 m5 i have 15:54 m5 Will have to replace that piece of shit asap 15:54 nman3600 m5, I wasn't using it when the server crashed 15:54 nman3600 I was unclaiming the land 15:54 m5 It crashed?? 15:54 nman3600 Well i crashed 15:55 Krock ('i' != "server") -> true 16:00 kaeza kaeza, [Win] + [R], "iexplore "-> hacky way 16:00 kaeza fuck you too 16:00 Krock - kaeza quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:00 Krock why so agressive? 16:01 m5 nman3600, https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas 16:04 Krock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xSNiPx791A 16:05 nman3600 !title 16:05 MinetestBot nman3600: Killer Clown Scare Prank! - YouTube 16:05 Krock I love that dude 16:05 nman3600 Krock i've seen that before 16:05 Krock :( 16:20 nman3600 Lol 16:21 nman3600 Krock, I was telling a friend about that vid at school today lol 16:24 rubenwardy Minetest Classic has built! 16:24 rubenwardy It is like Minetest, but with no modding support 16:24 rubenwardy lol 16:24 rubenwardy and, Hi All! 16:24 Megaf_ Hi? 16:24 Megaf_ Hi rubenwardy 16:25 Megaf_ [13:00:18] kaeza, [Win] + [R], "iexplore "-> hacky way 16:25 Megaf_ Alt + F2, "firefox " hacky way 16:25 Megaf_ lol 16:25 Megaf_ on Linux 16:26 rubenwardy Why does Unity suck so bad? 16:26 Megaf rubenwardy: because it's OpenGL and in bad OpenGL 16:26 Megaf heavy as heck 16:27 Megaf I'm looking forward AMD's mantle 16:29 sfan5 Megaf: you are aware that a gfx card supporting Mantle does not magically fix things? 16:29 sfan5 s/?// 16:33 PenguinDad Megaf: Is that Mantle thingy open? 16:33 Megaf Yep 16:33 Megaf and it's comming to Linux too, PenguinDad http://www.phoronix.com/ more info there 16:34 Megaf sfan5: doesnt it? It needs developers using it, doesnt it? 16:35 Jordach sapier, http://paste.debian.net/105679/ <- according to a MC modder, our shaders look good 16:37 Krock Megaf, IE because it's installed on every windows >95 16:37 Krock * >= 16:37 crazyR hi all 16:37 Megaf Krock: netscape for the win(insert dows here) 16:38 Krock hmm google translator takes long to translate that 16:39 Krock Megaf, what ya mean by "dows"? 16:39 * Krock headdesks 16:43 Jordach w0000000000000000000 16:43 Jordach moar shit turned up from Yodel! 16:43 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/llA3v1XGrN4z.png 16:43 VanessaE nice. 16:44 Jordach having to do what i did to my acer, convert it to it's limits (except this time a proper mobo because this is one of those really recent LGA775 Quads) 16:44 Megaf Jordach: to they ship to Republic of Ireland? 16:44 Jordach Megaf, i think they do 16:45 Megaf cool, pretty good price they have 16:45 Megaf Jordach: lets time I got hardware parts online was from http://pixmania.ie/ 16:46 Jordach Delivery options outside UK mainland; Delivery to Northern Ireland, Scottish Offshore, Scottish Highlands, Channel Islands, and Isle of Man Delivery optionsl; Within 2 - 3 working days Only £9.99 16:46 Jordach they don't do Ireland, but NI should be fine(?) 16:47 Jordach VanessaE, because the GPU i'm looking at needs those 90 degree SATA-3 leads - we had to get another, despite me only having one, the DVD drive had to go 16:52 VanessaE so what's it replacing? 16:52 Jordach an old HP mobo 16:52 VanessaE ah 16:52 Jordach ~2010 16:52 Jordach didn't support anything more than 2gb 16:52 Calinou hi 16:52 Calinou Jordach, why? only one RAM slot? 16:53 Calinou if you have enough RAM slots but can only have N GB of RAM, the limitation is usually due to the chipset or CPU 16:53 Calinou eg. B85 mobos can't use 32 GB even if they have 4 slots) 16:53 Jordach Calinou, four; HP was being cheap with their Vista age mobos 16:53 Jordach one of those cheap towers with shit mobos 16:53 Jordach (which we found in a large metal bin) 16:54 Jordach but then again, those intel core quads are still packing a punch 16:54 Calinou Intel C2Qs have pretty meh gaming performance (for AAA games) 16:55 Calinou but changing CPU + mobo is very expensive 16:55 Calinou so keep what you have 16:55 Jordach we're keeping the CPU as it appears to have 7.1 CPU performance on W7 16:55 Jordach my APU is 7.2 16:55 Jordach figure the difference :P 16:58 * m5 just wrote 700 words about how to use Live Linux and VirtualBox 16:59 Krock What's the use of the "GLES"-library? 17:00 Calinou W7 performance is ridiculously meaningless 17:00 Calinou Krock, OpenGL ES is a subset of OpenGL for use in embedded devices like smartphones/tablets; it's supposedly lighter and simpler 17:00 Calinou exists in 2.0 and 3.0 versions mostly 17:00 Krock Well explained, thank you, Calinou :) 17:00 Calinou no problem 17:01 Jordach what doesn't Calinou know 17:01 * Calinou wonders how many different states he should add to trampolines 17:01 Calinou currently 6 (same as Jeija's mod) 17:01 Jordach we should do weekly AMAs :P 17:01 Calinou 5? 8? 17:01 Calinou (different states have different strengths and will maybe have different fall damage reduction) 17:01 Krock states for trampolines? idle and jumping? 17:01 Jordach Calinou, cushion, 0.25, 0.5, 0.75, 1, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, 2, 9001 17:02 Krock I think 5 should be alreadyenough 17:02 Calinou cushion is a separate item 17:02 Jordach all mesured in speed reduction 17:02 Calinou (easier to craft) 17:02 Calinou 100% fall damage reduction 17:02 Calinou trampolines are 50 % only (to make abuse harder) and I'm going to disable_jump = 1 on them (to make very high jumps not possible) 17:02 Calinou (probably) 17:03 m5 Hmm 17:03 m5 The password field clears itself when the serverlist gets updated 17:03 Jordach holy shit i'm getting PMs shot from every direction 17:04 Krock +1? 17:04 Megaf [13:46:55] they don't do Ireland, but NI should be fine(?) 17:04 Megaf too bad, I got to find a good store in Ireland 17:04 Calinou woah, jump sends you insanely high 17:04 Calinou all of them 17:05 Calinou ~141 blocks 17:05 Calinou for weak one 17:05 Calinou if you hold jump key on them 17:12 Calinou still possible to jump insanely high on them, I have disable_jump = 1 group set :( 17:12 Calinou that group doesn't work anyway 17:13 Calinou “- disable_jump: Player (and possibly other things) cannot jump from node” 17:13 Calinou in before Taoki broke this :-) 17:14 Jordach s/in before/inb4 17:16 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Make dropdown formspec elements send their value same style as buttons on change 2a09b7e84f 2014-06-18T18:47:41+02:00 http://git.io/WkaPfg 17:22 nman3600 Is there a new minetest build? 17:23 nman3600 sfan5: Is there? 17:24 nman3600 TELL MAH NAOWWW! pls 17:24 m5 inb4 kick 17:24 nman3600 Is. There. A. New. Minetest. Build? 17:24 LemonLake nman3600: there are many 17:25 nman3600 My minetest_game world wont work anymore 17:25 nman3600 worlds* 17:25 m5 ... 17:25 LemonLake just finished ep 17 of hyouka, damn im flying through them 17:25 m5 Maybe you should say what's wrong instead of assuming a reason 17:25 m5 *What happens 17:26 LemonLake he prefers to be reset instead 17:31 * Calinou made pretty trampoline overlays 17:33 m5 70kb/sec... 17:42 grrk-bzzt I'm here Krock, what do you want? 17:42 Krock grrk-bzzt, sorry, just a random call to see if everybody is afk or what happened 17:43 * m5 loves his home server 17:43 m5 Fuck that piece of shit in Buffalo, USA 17:43 m5 ...That Octa-Core piece of shit... 17:44 * m5 sighs 17:45 rubenwardy I fucking hate git 17:45 m5 :( 17:45 m5 <3 git 17:45 kaeza why now? 17:45 rubenwardy I just reverted a commit 17:45 rubenwardy Can I revert a revert? 17:45 * m5 doesn't know how to do that 17:46 kaeza you can 17:46 Megaf One think I'd really like is rollback a rollback 17:46 m5 I uploaded my password once and n00bishly deleted the whole repo 17:46 m5 rollbackcept...No 17:46 kaeza (unless you rebased, that is) 17:46 m5 I can use my server for git... 17:46 kaeza s/rebased/squashed/ 17:47 Calinou m5, all revisions are stored on Git 17:47 Exio4 [off] http://player.theplatform.com/p/H2PcKC/XBQ8MbiSWNi9/embed/select/SjJeUClDQUx1?autoPlay=true 17:47 Calinou so reverting isn't a solution to such a thing 17:47 Calinou rubenwardy, did you try the same command you used for reverting? 17:47 Calinou did you commit your revert? 17:47 Calinou git reset may help 17:48 Exio4 git revert the reverting commit 17:49 Calinou RealBadAngel's shader changes makes stuff much darker, even sunlight 17:50 Calinou only leaves rendering changes slightly 17:51 VanessaE Calinou: are you still using your new table? 17:51 Calinou yes 17:51 VanessaE maybe that's why? 17:51 RealBadAngel Calinou, not much darker 17:51 RealBadAngel 1.2 instead of 1.3 for top of the nodes 17:51 RealBadAngel thats contrast 17:52 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/W52nPHV0oT0n.jpg 17:52 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/UaYjb-F8PW1p.jpg 17:52 Calinou first one without, second one with 17:52 Calinou only difference is in leaves 17:53 rubenwardy I meant to type git reset, Calinou, but I typed git revert :( 17:53 rubenwardy Crisis adverted 17:53 Calinou anyway, lava is finally actually bright 17:53 RealBadAngel Calinou, what are you calling "much darker" then? 17:54 RealBadAngel colors are the same now, with and without shaders 17:54 Calinou it feels much darker when you have shaders enabled, compared to before's top faces 17:54 Calinou oh, that's why 17:54 Calinou that's a big change and you've never really told anyone :/ 17:54 RealBadAngel ive trashed lotsa nonsense code 17:54 RealBadAngel and made colors the same 17:54 Calinou thanks for fixing lava and water anyway 17:54 Calinou so shaders are almost useless now, for me 17:54 RealBadAngel no 17:55 Calinou only fixes fog on transparent surfaces? 17:55 RealBadAngel thx to shaders you have bumpmapping, waving stuff etc 17:55 RealBadAngel and more things in the future 17:55 Calinou I use none of these 17:55 Calinou distracting, lowers FPS for no reason :P 17:55 Amaz ^ +1 17:55 RealBadAngel but such trivial things like faces shading is aviable now for everyone 17:56 RealBadAngel no matter with or without shaders 17:56 Calinou but you did break packs :( mine looks quite oversaturated now 17:56 * Calinou is off to sell it to Samsung 17:56 Calinou I'll compare with the defaults and oldpack (0.3.x textures) 17:56 VanessaE Calinou: I noticed that too - HDX looks like it needs some saturation adjustments as well 17:56 VanessaE but that's a good thing 17:56 Calinou good thing, why? 17:56 VanessaE a LOT of stuff was under-saturated before. 17:57 VanessaE (in HDX that is) 17:57 RealBadAngel before it was broken 17:57 RealBadAngel in shaders contrast were used 180% 17:57 Amaz The face shading looks great! 17:57 Calinou the textures look too contrasted 17:57 Calinou why do you change contrast, and not brightness? 17:57 RealBadAngel you dare to call it normal way? 17:57 rubenwardy Calinou: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/9b1cc3242d6e06f2aba4 17:57 rubenwardy !title 17:57 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Testing inconsistency detected by ld.so fix 17:57 RealBadAngel idk who made it 17:58 RealBadAngel but color manipulation was badly broken before 17:58 Calinou anyway, my light table works nicely with your changes 17:58 VanessaE Calinou: imagemagick will make it a 5 minute job to tune the color saturation back down to natural 17:58 RealBadAngel thats why we had many issues with water etc 17:58 VanessaE for your whole pack/game/etc. 17:58 Calinou using oldpack in latest Git really feels like playing 0.3.x, sometimes :p 17:59 Calinou VanessaE, yeah, but you will have to change all packs? 17:59 Calinou that's annoying, for people who want to convert eg. Minecraft packs 17:59 VanessaE Calinou: depends on the pack; HDX needs some tweaks, but not that many 17:59 Mallot1 hey 18:00 VanessaE besides, Contrast is what defines how much light something is receiving 18:00 VanessaE brightness really just sets the black level 18:00 RealBadAngel anyway, if something was broken for a long time its not the reason to call it standard and fixing that situation breaking things 18:01 VanessaE Calinou: how does Misa's pack look now in MT as compared to MC? 18:01 Amaz Jordach, Remeber this? https://cdn.mediacru.sh/7aNQQfIE_QEy.png (I presume it's dead now...) 18:01 Calinou will do some screenshots (of Minetest) 18:01 Calinou the grass is very dark 18:01 VanessaE Amaz: ew. 18:02 Jordach dayum that's one old client 18:02 Amaz Yep. 18:02 Calinou apparently you don't need shaders to fix fogging on water 18:02 Mallot1 why'd they call it minetest-classic? 18:03 VanessaE that's definitely NOT darkrose's Minetest Classic 18:03 Jordach Mallot1, because it's forked from classic 18:04 Krock How the hell can I use the Incremental Building for minetest? 18:04 Calinou rendering is exactly the same with and without shaders, except leaves differ a bit 18:05 Calinou VanessaE, may or may not be to your taste: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bUJ2bzqbXCvX.jpg 18:05 Calinou https://mediacru.sh/13adf1351a9f 18:05 Calinou four basic textures of Misa as a reference 18:05 Amaz Nice. 18:05 Calinou the new rendering is more accurate, but it breaks packs 18:05 VanessaE how can it break a pack if it's more accurate? 18:05 Calinou packs were designed with older lighting, even though it was disconnected of reality 18:06 Calinou oh also that screenshot is very Minecrafty 18:06 VanessaE yes, it is :) 18:06 Calinou if you used a Minecraft map, some people could mix this with Minecraft for sure 18:06 Jordach [19:06:24] comic sans D: 18:06 Jordach [19:06:40] HEY, I LIKE comic sans 18:07 Calinou I still find it strange how RealBadAngel increased the contrast of the top face 18:07 RealBadAngel lol 18:07 VanessaE Calinou: he decreased it. 18:07 VanessaE from 1.3 -> 1.2. 18:07 VanessaE it just looks like it's higher because the sides of the nodes are darker nod. 18:07 VanessaE now* 18:08 RealBadAngel and in shaders from 180% to 120% 18:08 Calinou textures just feel more intense, than even the texture file 18:08 RealBadAngel make all 1.0 18:08 RealBadAngel and you will see non changed textures 18:09 VanessaE Calinou: I think it's a "getting used to it" sorta thing e.g. the whole *game* is probably what feels "more intense", and not so much the textures. 18:09 VanessaE hm, that didn't come out right. 18:09 VanessaE meh, you get the point 18:09 RealBadAngel and still, it wont look the same as in gimp 18:09 Calinou the nice thing is that dropped items and wieldhand integrate more nicely with the world (same colours) 18:09 Calinou before they were quite different 18:09 Calinou thanks for that too 18:10 RealBadAngel np 18:10 RealBadAngel you will get used to new feel 18:11 * Jordach didn't require adjustment 18:11 RealBadAngel and will notice makin textures will be now easier 18:11 whiskers75 bye ^whiskers75 18:11 whiskers75 yay, irssi 18:11 VanessaE RealBadAngel: next change I'd really like to see is properly-working lighting on nodeboxes 18:11 VanessaE even if it just makes them work like everything else does. 18:11 Jordach i had already been experimenting with something called MT4 ;P 18:12 Calinou TIL: you can use Enter or Space to press the button you last pressed in a formspec 18:12 Calinou I also like the idea that rendering is the same with and without shaders 18:12 Calinou it's less discriminating to people with old PCs 18:13 RealBadAngel to some point of course 18:13 Calinou shaders fix one fairly important thing however: lighting of dark water, when you see it behind brighter water 18:13 Calinou at least in some cases 18:14 RealBadAngel water is not affected with shading 18:14 Calinou RealBadAngel, is there any chance that you test my light table changes and merge them? 18:14 RealBadAngel all faces have same contrast level 18:14 RealBadAngel i can test it ofc 18:14 Calinou I meant transparency sorting 18:14 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I did notice a glitch with shaders vs. lava - at a far distance, lava tends to peak through the lava when nothing else does. 18:14 VanessaE er lava peaks through the FOG rather. 18:15 VanessaE e.g. go near some lava, in the daytime, then fly up high in the air. eventually all you'll see is the lava peeking through the fog, before it also disappears. 18:15 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/nGtX9Aohm8up.jpg 18:15 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/RJ_VEapZGlwZ.jpg 18:15 Calinou without and with. fog feels more intense without shaders, or is this just me? 18:16 Calinou colours are a tad different (better) with shaders on too 18:16 Jordach that isn't just you Calinou 18:16 VanessaE I see a difference in the fog, but that could just be draw distance? 18:16 Calinou I forced 100 on both 18:16 VanessaE the water cave darkness glitch, I've seen before. 18:17 Jordach Calinou, notice that sand becomes a bit more bluish with shadars 18:17 VanessaE in that case, yeah, the fog is thicker in ...8up.jpg 18:17 Jordach yes, i'm calling it that from now on 18:17 Jordach needs moar shadars 18:20 Calinou lava is not fogged, indeed, VanessaE (shaders on) 18:20 Calinou maybe because the texture must have an alpha channel? 18:20 VanessaE screenshot for RBA please? :) 18:21 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/KwNZBnc1Wwt8.jpg → I wanted to troll people in another channel 18:21 Calinou failed 18:21 Exio4 i'm a nice shibe 18:22 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/L-5OWEMOCU9Z.jpg 18:22 * Calinou uses Exio4 to mine Dogecoin 18:22 VanessaE Calinou: indeed HDX's lava has no alpha channel, nor should it need one - lava is opaque for crying out loud :P 18:22 jin_xi more irrlicht particle eyecandy http://youtu.be/5WnmQYLJzlE 18:23 VanessaE very nice, jin_xi 18:23 VanessaE what kind of FPS effect do those particles have? 18:23 EvergreenTree jin_xi: pretty! 18:24 lemonlake fpssy 18:24 * Calinou eats the eye candy 18:24 EvergreenTree maybe rain particles would be less laggy with Irllicht particles 18:24 EvergreenTree lots of them I mean 18:25 VanessaE EvergreenTree: indeed so 18:25 kaeza speaking of candies... candybox 2 sucks :< 18:25 kaeza anyway, nice jin_xi 18:25 VanessaE Calinou: does it change if you add an alpha channel to the textures? 18:26 jin_xi paricle spawners which do not require collision detection should be doable easily 18:26 VanessaE jin_xi: they look quite performant indee.d 18:26 VanessaE indeed* 18:27 VanessaE how far do you figure you are from something that can replace what we have now? 18:27 jin_xi idk, i dont think any of my code is suitable for engine inclusion 18:27 VanessaE too bad. 18:28 jin_xi but RBA can do it in an afternoon i guess 18:28 RealBadAngel nice particles 18:28 RealBadAngel could be used as fire for 3d torches 18:31 Calinou VanessaE, it looks like it doesn't 18:31 VanessaE ok, that's a good thing than ;) 18:32 VanessaE means I don't have to bloat HDX's textures up any further than they already are :P 18:32 Calinou trying around all my packs with new lighting 18:32 Calinou many look as well as before 18:32 Calinou MCE is totally awesome on it, especially in caves 18:33 Calinou lol, found diamond 18:33 Calinou ugh, stone monsters 18:33 Calinou they don't attack me 18:33 VanessaE simple mobs? 18:33 Mallot1 they attack at night 18:34 Mallot1 deeper you go the more agressive 18:34 Calinou VanessaE, yes 18:34 Calinou Mallot1, no, it's a bug 18:34 Calinou sometimes they'll only wander around and not attack you 18:34 Calinou often happens after death or server rejoin 18:34 VanessaE Calinou: that mod went batshit on my server the other day, spawned thousands of entities. had to remove it :( 18:34 Mallot1 oh i thought they liked me :) 18:34 Calinou PilzAdam, are you aware of that? probably, but just making sure 18:35 Calinou i've never never had that problem however, VanessaE 18:35 VanessaE I've seen at least one other report of it happening to someone, a while back 18:35 VanessaE no clue who, when, or why. 18:35 Mallot1 VanessaE: that happened to me on BrandonsReese's server one or 2 times 18:35 VanessaE anyway, bbl. 18:36 Mallot1 bye 18:36 m5 Hello pplz 18:36 Mallot1 hey m5! :) 18:37 m5 Gello there 18:37 Calinou VanessaE, try Carbone's version? may have fixes 18:37 Calinou it's hugely tweaked 18:37 Calinou has 1 additional mob too 18:41 jin_xi msg RealBadAngel if you wanna try yourself here is the changed function in particles.cpp http://paste.ubuntu.com/7665057/ 18:41 jin_xi oh well 18:41 jin_xi #include too 18:42 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/7Q9wR8Orcybu.jpg 18:42 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/udoFkcudNncs.jpg 18:42 Calinou https://cdn.mediacru.sh/5fbJ8ZdxL0DD.jpg 18:44 Krock sfan5, how can I go around the build-from-scratch after changing the VERSION_EXTRA in cmake? 18:44 sfan5 you can't 18:44 Krock so, you build from scratch, too? 18:45 sfan5 YES 18:45 Krock ^ sfan5 18:45 Krock oh 18:45 Krock thanks for the help 18:52 jin_xi hm, i wonder about that particle collision issue. digging particles obviously need it, but it could be argued they're more like fragments of the destroyed node 18:53 jin_xi do many mods use particle spawners with collision detection? 18:53 kaeza I used to use it on firearms for spent cases 18:54 jin_xi but again, thats more of an object that kinda hangs around than a particle 18:54 kaeza but in that case I can easily switch to entities 18:54 jin_xi particle in the computer graphics, where it usually is a texture depicting many very small stuffs 18:54 jin_xi think i forgot a word there 18:55 jin_xi maybe it makes sense to keep single particles for such uses and add irrlicht ones for 'particle fx' stuff 18:56 kaeza things like rain, snow, etc. could use collision detection though 18:56 kaeza maybe some flag to choose between "old" and "new" particles? 18:56 ligeti Hello 18:57 Amaz Hi! 18:57 jin_xi so server needs to know about every drop... lets make finite liquid and wather on that base 18:57 ligeti Amaz :) I installed Mint :P (thanks God I had a backup of all my files!) 18:58 ligeti thanks for your help 18:58 kaeza jin_xi, ? 18:59 Amaz ligeti: Great! 18:59 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=156&p=145455#p145455 19:02 kaeza alright 19:03 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=156&p=145455#p145233 → Carbone user spotted (textures, 3D torch) 19:03 Calinou and “Spawned mobs:” message 19:03 Calinou (they should update their copy, mobs now have descriptions in spawn message) 19:04 lemonlake is that multitest lamps in there 19:05 Calinou https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1362 → here goes paramat's science 19:05 Calinou lemonlake, the 3D torches are from Carbone's default mod 19:05 Calinou the lamp blocks, no idea 19:05 lemonlake they look like the multitest lamps 19:06 lemonlake this guy used my bros mod :D 19:07 Amaz http://i.imgur.com/7npiAXl.png <-- Calinou, your own screenshot? 19:08 Calinou no 19:08 Calinou found it on screenshots topic 19:08 Amaz Right. 19:08 Amaz Just wondering ;) 19:08 * whiskers75 meows at sfan5 19:10 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75 19:11 whiskers75 :) 19:11 * Calinou is doing test of Simple Mobs with 300 seconds life timer instead of 600 19:14 m5 I can't get rid of sendmail now... 19:14 Calinou also improving mob despawn messages to be more informative 19:23 Calinou none of the mobs despawned? no message 19:28 Calinou PilzAdam, self.lifetimer seems to barely work only, on ~100 mobs, only ~4 despawn 19:29 Calinou set it to 300 instead of 600 19:29 Calinou I'll try very short time 19:29 Calinou I'll try with 10 to see 19:34 Calinou printing dtime makes stuff like 21:33:56: ACTION[ServerThread]: 0.032000001519918, lol 19:38 rubenwardy Wtf? Why is github adding merge commits now? 19:39 rubenwardy did git pull origin branchone; git push origin branchtwo; and a merge message was added in the history on GitHub 19:42 PenguinDad playing with item frames https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ZmPE1EaWoK_0.png 19:43 PilzAdam rubenwardy, dont pull 19:43 PilzAdam it creates merge commits if you are not careful 19:43 rubenwardy What is the alternative? 19:43 PilzAdam rebase 19:44 rubenwardy ah 19:44 PilzAdam pull doesn't create a merge commit if your branch does not differ 20:06 * Jordach purrs at BlockMen 20:09 BlockMen hi Jordach 20:12 EvergreenTree Hi BlockMen 20:13 * Jordach taps EvergreenTree 20:14 Taoki Is there a Lua command to clear all entities on the server except players? 20:15 Jordach Taoki, /clearobjects 20:15 Jordach that no longer clears players afaik 20:15 Taoki thanks 20:16 BlockMen hi EvergreenTree 20:36 * Jordach taps EvergreenTree 20:36 * sfan5 taps EvergreenTree 20:38 * Jordach flips the table 20:38 * PenguinDad flops the table 20:38 * Jordach flips the table 20:38 * table flips Jordach 20:38 Jordach lel 20:39 Jordach :3 20:39 kaeza also, registered :< 20:39 kaeza RC Car now in MMDB!...once someone approves! 20:39 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix bounding rect for formspec elements label vertlabel and checkboxes 65a4630f31 2014-06-18T22:38:29+02:00 http://git.io/egXfpA 20:39 EvergreenTree Trees don't flip tables, trees flip ground 20:40 EvergreenTree kaeza: I was actually experimenting with an rc node 20:40 * Jordach wonders if EvergreenTree always uses root account 20:40 EvergreenTree how do you control it? 20:40 EvergreenTree lel 20:40 * kaeza pokes Jordach to approve rc_car 20:40 EvergreenTree My idea was that a controller item could be used 20:41 * sfan5 roots RootTree 20:41 EvergreenTree every time you punch with the controller , the car goes the direction you are pointing 20:41 EvergreenTree I was also thinking of having multiple channels for the remote/car 20:41 EvergreenTree like the teleport pipes in pipeworks 20:41 * RootTree just noticed that RootTree isn't registered 20:41 kaeza EvergreenTree, that's exactly how the car is controlled... 20:41 EvergreenTree ah 20:42 EvergreenTree the channels thing might be something you would want to implement though 20:42 kaeza you turn on the car (via right click), then click somewhere with remote and car goes there 20:42 EvergreenTree ah 20:42 kaeza pull requests welcome :) 20:42 EvergreenTree mkay 20:43 kaeza o wait, there's no github repo 20:43 EvergreenTree lol 20:43 EvergreenTree make one 20:43 EvergreenTree I might have a go at it 20:43 EvergreenTree not good with formspecs and metadata though 20:48 kaeza EvergreenTree, https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-rc_car 20:51 Piggybear87 The eff? 20:52 Vazon Hi guys 20:52 * PenguinDad slaps Remote host for closing Piggybear87's connection 20:53 Piggybear87 No, not that. That was me. 20:53 Piggybear87 Hi Vazon. 20:54 Vazon lol 20:55 Piggybear87 I have 2 HDDs in my machine (other than the main one), and every time I try to access one of them, my machine lags out. I can't get to the stuff I just downloaded. 21:00 Piggybear87 Got it... 21:17 Jordach kaeza, i don't bother with MMDB 21:17 Jordach it's too much hassle for a button press 21:17 Jordach I was told to moderate the forums, not to approve mods. 21:18 kaeza okai 21:18 * kaeza self-approves it then 21:20 kaeza also repost from elsewhere: https://i.imgur.com/eqgCuO9.jpg 21:51 Megaf !seen Krock 21:51 MinetestBot Megaf: krock was last seen at 2014-06-18 16:39:12 UTC on #minetest 21:53 PenguinDad ≡_≡ 21:54 Miner_48er !seen cheapie 21:54 MinetestBot Miner_48er: cheapie was last seen at 2014-06-02 05:00:51 UTC on #minetest 21:54 PenguinDad !seen expensivie 21:54 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen expensivie around. 21:55 Miner_48er !seen Vazon 21:55 MinetestBot Miner_48er: vazon was last seen at 2014-06-14 07:28:59 UTC on #minetest 21:55 kaeza !seen seen_around 21:55 MinetestBot kaeza: Sorry, I haven't seen seen_around around. 21:55 Vazon yes? 21:56 Miner_48er hi Vazon 21:56 Vazon Hi :) 21:56 Miner_48er still looking for Lazy? 21:57 Vazon Well ether of you will do 21:57 Vazon I was wonding what you guys are using to access others peoples locked chests? 21:58 Miner_48er the permafy mod causes some problems through 21:58 Vazon o so permafy does that? 22:00 Miner_48er yes LazyJ^ 22:01 Vazon mhmm i thought you guys coded something for that 22:01 webdesigner97 hello 22:01 Megaf I hate rollback, it doesnt work 22:01 Megaf it fails often 22:02 webdesigner97 ShadowNinja: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1387 What do you mean by "... to put this..."? 22:02 ShadowNinja webdesigner97: ... to **put** this ... 22:02 Miner_48er we didn't it's a side effect 22:02 Vazon Megaf, just make sure you keep your rollback file small 22:02 ShadowNinja webdesigner97: It means "use 'put' there". 22:02 Megaf how? 22:02 Megaf deleting it? 22:03 Megaf Then how Im suposed to find griefers? 22:03 Megaf using a huge debug.txt? 22:03 webdesigner97 I guess I'll just split the line to make you happy :P 22:03 webdesigner97 One other thing: 22:03 Megaf bloody hell 22:03 Vazon Megaf, delete it every few days and that should be enough 22:03 ShadowNinja Megaf: sqlite3 rollback.sqlite 'DELETE FROM action WHERE time < ; VACUUM;' 22:04 Megaf no vazon, sometimes I find huge griefings that are old 22:04 webdesigner97 "You should use screen.display_width and screen.display_height here, just like you do above." Where? in the part? 22:04 ShadowNinja ^ That will trim it down without deleting the whole thing. 22:04 webdesigner97 That would be useless. When I turn off fullscreen, it restores the default window size 22:05 ShadowNinja VACUUM actually frees up the disk space, but reconstructs the DB, so is (very) slow. 22:05 Megaf It doesnt help gaining much space 22:05 Megaf and again, space is not my problem 22:06 Megaf rollback saying nobody touched a node when someone actually did is the problem 22:08 Vazon Megaf do you have self claiming on? 22:08 Megaf I dont even know what that is 22:08 Vazon Megaf, where people can claim there own land using markers or commands 22:09 Megaf I should just stop caring about people 22:10 acerspyro I'm trying to run Minetest on my 64-bit openSUSE 13.1 machine, but it segfaults immediately as I start it. Any reason it could do that? 22:10 Megaf acerspyro; lots of 22:10 Vazon Megaf if you turn on self claiming and get the markers mod, then its there own fault if they get griefed 22:10 Megaf where did you get minetest from? 22:11 acerspyro Package manager 22:11 Megaf Vazon; its a public road that was griefed 22:11 Vazon o.... mhmmm 22:11 Megaf acerspyro; so you should complain to the one who packaged minetest, its a bug in hist compilation 22:11 Megaf his* 22:11 acerspyro Megaf: Minetest works perfectly on this laptop 22:11 Piggybear87 also repost from elsewhere: https://i.imgur.com/eqgCuO9.jpg 22:11 Piggybear87 Lmfao 22:11 acerspyro openSUSE, altho it's a 32-bit system 22:12 Megaf acerspyro; so its a bug on the 64 bit version 22:12 Megaf acerspyro; #openSUSE 22:12 acerspyro Where do you propose I get the source files from? 22:13 acerspyro Megaf: They don't answer packages requests, I need to send an e-mail 22:13 Megaf acerspyro; yep, I can help you geting the latest source and compiling it yourself 22:13 acerspyro I know how to compile, only need the link 22:13 Megaf https://github.com/minetest/minetest 22:14 Megaf acerspyro; https://github.com/minetest/minetest/archive/master.zip 22:14 acerspyro ty 22:14 Megaf or the stable and older one https://github.com/minetest/minetest/archive/stable-0.4.zip 22:15 acerspyro The bleeding-edge lifestyle suits me :) 22:16 Piggybear87 Vazon, You're 30012, right? 22:16 Vazon yes or you can try my mapgen v7 map 22:16 Vazon me and Cherudim are on the c7 one 22:17 Vazon v7* 22:17 Piggybear87 There's lava pouring out of a house. Lol. 22:17 Piggybear87 What's the address and port? 22:17 kaeza Vazon is 30012 years old? O_o 22:17 Piggybear87 kaeza, Yes, yes he is. 22:17 kaeza wow 22:17 Vazon 75.131.40.131 30000 22:18 kaeza :P 22:18 Miner_48er !up 75.131.40.131 30000 22:18 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 is up (143ms) 22:18 Vazon kaeze shhhhh if they find out they will take me away and do tests on me D: 22:18 Piggybear87 Lmfao. 22:24 BlockMen gd night 22:25 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest: Add tooltips for button, imagebutton and checkbox. 04fbf47744 2014-06-19T00:22:03+02:00 http://git.io/g8ADuA 22:25 kaeza \o/ 22:36 Megaf folks, is there a good and definive way to block everything that is not minetest from connecting to my server? 22:37 Jordach Megaf, the firewall of course :3 22:38 Megaf lol 22:41 * Jordach taps kaeza 22:41 kaeza rm -fr ~/* 22:42 Megaf once I did much worse than that 22:42 kaeza yes? 22:42 kaeza Jordach, my system clock isn't even right 22:42 Megaf at the time I knew just a really little English 22:42 Jordach dammit :3 22:42 Jordach fix it :3 22:42 Megaf and someone said to do the command wipe -azv / 22:42 Megaf to fix an issue I had 22:43 kaeza lol 22:43 Megaf and then I did that wipe 22:43 Megaf with all my disks and partitions mounted 22:43 Megaf including a backup disk 22:43 Megaf I lost several years worth of photography 22:44 Jordach you mean missing file links 22:44 Megaf so please folks, dont tell dangerous commands... 22:44 kaeza Jordach, Windows wants me to browse several pages, click half a dozen links, browse 20 more pages, to get to the spinbutton to change the time 3 hours back 22:44 Jordach if you were to manage to repair the file link to the datablock, it's recoverable 22:44 Megaf Jordach; the command wipe actually is used to wipe the content itself 22:44 Jordach Megaf, there's a large ~3 month hole in my Dropbox folder 22:44 Megaf wipe is intended to destroy data 22:44 Jordach because of rm -rf / 22:45 Jordach on my old desktop 22:45 kaeza <.< 22:45 * kaeza hides 22:45 Jordach kaeza, why'd you think i sync dropbox now :3 22:45 Megaf Jordach; I know dat feelin' bro 22:52 VanessaE hi 22:52 Megaf Hi :) 23:00 Exio4 \o/ got Real World Haskell 23:47 Jordach hey paramat 23:49 paramat hiya 23:51 Jordach paramat, down to 37 posts :D 23:55 paramat up to 42 mods ;) 23:55 Jordach universally computable :3 23:57 Jordach TIL Firefox supports APNG out of the box. 23:59 Jordach welp, i'm going to bed