IRC log for #minetest, 2014-05-30

Time	Nick	Message
00:00	LemonLake	What exactly DO you fix?
00:00		nsd joined #minetest
00:00	The_Beast	I only have family and friends on friends
00:00	LemonLake	Like orgies?
00:00	The_Beast	I fix PC Fans i fix Operating System
00:00	The_Beast	I replace mother borads
00:01	LemonLake	Oh, that's perfect
00:01	LemonLake	My friend has a dead CMOS battery, can you replace it?
00:01	nsd	VanessaE, can you please unban me on your vanilla server? I was trying to remove the bend in one of the roads by digging down, and thus it might have seemed like I was mining the road. Someone later removed the sign that this was a project of making the road straight.
00:01	The_Beast	No i am not your Friend and i dont know you
00:01	LemonLake	aww...
00:01	Jordach	LemonLake, most CMOS batteries are CR2032
00:01	LemonLake	I was going to employ you as IT if you managed to do it but
00:01	The_Beast	Sorry if i know you in the Future i could fix it for him
00:01	LemonLake	I know, Jordach.
00:01	Jordach	(i've swallowed one before)
00:02	The_Beast	If Fix usb Drives i fix Computer Screen/replace them
00:02	LemonLake	Oh, it's a her
00:02	VanessaE	nsd: let me see what the person who banned you says first.
00:04	VanessaE	(when he returns)
00:12	LemonLake	I made it on gimp so it took long
00:12	LemonLake	But it's done now
00:12	LemonLake	http://sta.sh/0157vvffp0ek
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00:12	kat	Hi, guys
00:12	realtinymonster	Utah!
00:12	realtinymonster	Woot!
00:13	realtinymonster	Hey Guest65679
00:13	Guest65679	ya kat again from Utah. Hey, why does my cursor go up in Single Player Minetest?
00:13	LemonLake	because magic
00:13	The_Beast	Why Would you do that Lemon
00:13	LemonLake	It's inspirational.
00:14	Guest65679	So, I sit still and my cursor goes up. hahahaha magic?
00:14	The_Beast	You messed it up fyi
00:14	The_Beast	It is Not to much Work not not to much word
00:14	realtinymonster	Guest65679: try unplugging your mouse and plugging it back in
00:14	LemonLake	<27The_Beast> No To Much Word
00:14	LemonLake	It's quite accurate.
00:14	Guest65679	It's a laptop without a mouse. Maybe plug one in and then out?
00:14	realtinymonster	yeah
00:15	The_Beast	i never said to much word
00:15	LemonLake	You did.
00:15	LemonLake	<27The_Beast> No To Much Word
00:15	realtinymonster	yeah you did
00:15	LemonLake	It's in the damn logs.
00:15	LemonLake	We all saw it.
00:15	Guest65679	o.k. will try thanks
00:15	LemonLake	Everyone please quote when The_beast said that.
00:15	LemonLake	Or not. Okay
00:15	realtinymonster	01:50 < The_Beast> No To Much Word
00:15	LemonLake	Ah, there it is
00:16	The_Beast	[16:50] <The_Beast> No To Much Work
00:16	LemonLake	Hahahaha
00:16	LemonLake	Let's look at the IRC logs
00:16	The_Beast	i did
00:17	realtinymonster	The_Beast: typos happen
00:17	LemonLake	http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-05-29#i_3731149
00:17	LemonLake	There ya go
00:17	LemonLake	Right there, on the internet for everyone to see
00:17	* Jordach	gives composing a go again
00:17	Jordach	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/YXTW5XDM29O1.png
00:17	The_Beast	I dont care any more
00:17	LemonLake	You have quite a repeated melody in there, jordach
00:17	Jordach	Lead Synth ftw
00:17	LemonLake	Okay then
00:18	LemonLake	What version of FL is that? It has way too much gloss to be FL 11
00:18	The_Beast	i live in Tamps
00:18	The_Beast	*Tampa
00:18	Jordach	LemonLake, that's 11 alright :P
00:18	LemonLake	Oh, Tampa is a nice place
00:18	LemonLake	It has lots of oxygen.
00:18	Megaf_	1:18:28: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: /home/minetest/Server/bin/../mods/areas/api.lua:5: attempt to index local 'pos' (a nil value
00:18	The_Beast	Nah Dip
00:18	Jordach	ShadowNinja, ^
00:19	Megaf_	man, since my very first server, about two years ago, I get this fucking bloody nil value shit!!!!!!!!
00:19	LemonLake	The_beast
00:19	LemonLake	What does tampa have to do with anything?
00:19	Megaf_	Are you stupid or something?
00:19	The_Beast	I am sorry i read what You Said Wrong
00:19	LemonLake	It's okay.
00:19	Megaf_	How the heck a simple mod error can bring the server down?
00:19	Jordach	Megaf_, because mods still don't check their shit correctly
00:20	LemonLake	But I am not royal. You do not need to capitalize use of 'You' when speaking about me.
00:20	The_Beast	No Cursing
00:20	realtinymonster	Megaf_: he assumed FL = Florida
00:20	LemonLake	Fuck piss hit cookie
00:20	Jordach	my mods have a if nil then return :P
00:20	LemonLake	s/hit/shit
00:20	Megaf_	The_Beast; minetest curses at me
00:20	The_Beast	I am use to typing like that that Lemon
00:20	The_Beast	Lol
00:20	LemonLake	Its ok, we all use extra whitespaces sometimes
00:21	Jordach	i have more rage contained than some actually realise
00:21	LemonLake	It's totally understandable
00:21	The_Beast	I dont use extra white space i use to many captiols
00:21	realtinymonster	Like This is totally cool .......
00:21	The_Beast	How do i take a screen shot
00:21	The_Beast	Of my screen
00:21	LemonLake	Alt + f4
00:21	nsd	ok thanks
00:21	The_Beast	k
00:21	realtinymonster	lol
00:22	Megaf_	we were having a great time at my server, all old school friends reunited, then this thing crashes
00:22	Megaf_	it's really annoying
00:22		nsd left #minetest
00:22	* realtinymonster	has left life
00:23	* LemonLake	gives up on life too
00:23	realtinymonster	Woot!
00:23	The_Beast	[15:48] <LemonLake> Not dip shit head.
00:23	The_Beast	Lol
00:23	Megaf_	life is where minetest is
00:23	The_Beast	I found that in the logs Lemon
00:23	Jordach	Megaf_, i feel ya
00:23	realtinymonster	Megaf_: +1
00:23	LemonLake	The_Beast: Link
00:24	Jordach	Megaf_, tryout BFD and find a crash (the most likey to do so is mobs)
00:24	Megaf_	I dont use mobs
00:24	Megaf_	I know they cause lots of crash
00:24	LemonLake	The_Beast: I would like a link of me saying this
00:25	realtinymonster	LemonLake: he lies
00:25	LemonLake	realtinymonster: I'm quite aware of that.
00:25	realtinymonster	i looke up in my local logs
00:25	The_Beast	ok
00:25	LemonLake	The_Beast: Impersonating somebody is not very nice
00:26	The_Beast	I am not let me get a screenshot
00:26	LemonLake	How would you like it if I logged in as you and started saying stuff that you never said?
00:27	The_Beasf	totally legit username
00:27	The_Beast	Lemon i was trying to get to feel the same way i did when you over extradited that i spelt some thing wrong
00:28	LemonLake	Wanna know why?
00:28	LemonLake	You claim to be who you're not.
00:28	LemonLake	You say that you're some smart ass, when really your not
00:28	The_Beast	Ok
00:28	LemonLake	It's called attention seeking
00:28	LemonLake	A bad habit
00:28	The_Beast	I am a smart ass for your infomation
00:28	LemonLake	I'm teaching you a life lesson here while entertaining myself at the same time.
00:28	realtinymonster	LemonLake: numnumnum
00:28	LemonLake	Talk about modesty, jesus
00:28	Jordach	chill it
00:28	Exio4	someone said i'm their new god if i can challenge prog lol
00:28	LemonLake	Whoa whoa jordach
00:28	LemonLake	Calm your face
00:29	realtinymonster	lol
00:29	* Exio4	slaps Jordach
00:29	Exio4	what is going on here
00:29	LemonLake	Calm it even more
00:29	realtinymonster	Jordach: Calm Thy Face!
00:29	Jordach	no
00:29	LemonLake	that should be a prayer
00:29	realtinymonster	lol
00:29	* Exio4	licks Jordach
00:29	LemonLake	dafuq
00:30	* realtinymonster	hugs LemonLake
00:30	The_Beast	Lemon you are just teasing me because i wanted to join your team i know that why you act like i was born yestrday
00:30	* LemonLake	is confused but accepts it anyway
00:30	LemonLake	The_Beast
00:30	The_Beast	?
00:30	Exio4	plz fak u
00:30	Exio4	:D
00:30	LemonLake	I'm not teasing you at all
00:30	The_Beast	Ok
00:30	LemonLake	I'm just trying to teach you many lessons.
00:31	The_Beast	I dont need any lessons
00:31	LemonLake	Hm
00:31	LemonLake	Okay then
00:31	LemonLake	So you can graduate, and you claim you're 100% mature so you can go and find a mate and reproduce.
00:31	The_Beast	Yes
00:31	realtinymonster	LemonLake: Lol
00:31	LemonLake	Okay, go do that now.
00:32	VanessaE	LemonLake: this is the same guy who bought a dog from a greed-- ahem.. breeder.
00:32	realtinymonster	you say that as if he is a dog or smth
00:32	LemonLake	VanessaE: I like facts.
00:32	The_Beast	Your the dumba** mature means like you act like a real person and dont act a stupid fucking idiot
00:32	LemonLake	HOLY
00:32	LemonLake	FUCKING
00:32	LemonLake	SHIT
00:32	realtinymonster	LOL
00:32	LemonLake	That was uncalled for, M8.
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00:32	realtinymonster	#ragequit
00:33	LemonLake	Okay, I'll reply even though he's left.
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00:33	LemonLake	1. My ass may be dumb. I could have bowel cancer for all you know.
00:33	realtinymonster	lol
00:33	LemonLake	2. I am a real person, indeed. I am a human being on this planet.
00:33	The_Beast	Why was i kicked
00:33	Jordach	you werent kicked
00:33	LemonLake	3. I wouldn't act stupid. That just makes me look stupid.
00:34	The_Beast	Then what happend
00:34	LemonLake	You left #minetest.
00:34	The_Beast	No
00:34	The_Beast	It said i was kicked
00:34	LemonLake	* The_Beast (603be161gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.59.225.97) has left #minetest
00:34	realtinymonster	The_Beast: internet died?
00:34	LemonLake	Hmmm, I wonder why?
00:34	The_Beast	Maybe
00:34	LemonLake	Want me to make a wallpaper with your other quote?
00:34	The_Beast	Yes i Sure Fucking do
00:34	LemonLake	Okay then!
00:35	realtinymonster	The_Beast: ./part #minetest
00:35	LemonLake	I have the xcf right here, give me a moment
00:35	The_Beast	ok
00:37	LemonLake	<The_Beast> Just Shut your Fucking Trap
00:37	LemonLake	(in query)
00:37	realtinymonster	lol
00:37	The_Beast	I Sure did
00:37	LemonLake	By the way guys, I'm releasing a free wallpaper in just a few seconds! Sit back!
00:37	realtinymonster	LemonLake: Woot!
00:37	LemonLake	It's 42% uploaded, it's a great one too
00:38	realtinymonster	release via mediacru.sh?
00:38	LemonLake	Ah, dang
00:38	LemonLake	that's effort
00:38	LemonLake	:P
00:38	realtinymonster	lol
00:38	LemonLake	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/4AlFOjHclt8q.png
00:38	LemonLake	1080p for your eyes
00:39	The_Beast	Thats a very good one
00:39	realtinymonster	hehe
00:39	LemonLake	Why thank you, fine sir!
00:39	LemonLake	I might just print some posters
00:39	LemonLake	Sell them at the library
00:39	The_Beast	Cool
00:40	realtinymonster	Am I right in saying that 'Jolly Good Sir' = 'Go fuck yourself'?
00:40	LemonLake	Why that is correct, fine sir!
00:40	realtinymonster	Woot!
00:40	LemonLake	Also, be sure to use the term 'wanker' politely but with a hint of sass.
00:40	LemonLake	Maybe a gesture to go along with it. ^.^
00:40	realtinymonster	I got something right for a change!
00:41	LemonLake	So, The_Beast
00:41	The_Beast	Yeah
00:41	* realtinymonster	throws LemonLake into a freezer
00:41	LemonLake	You seemed to have lashed out at me, similar to the way other 14 year old CoD players do. What would you now rate yourself in maturity, on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being mature?
00:42	LemonLake	Ohh yess I love that freezer
00:42	The_Beast	10
00:42	realtinymonster	you can't talk throught the freezer door... :/
00:42	LemonLake	don't contradict me
00:42	* realtinymonster	takes LemonLake out of the freezer
00:42		LemonLake was kicked by Jordach: QUIT. IT
00:42		The_Beast was kicked by Jordach: QUIT. IT.
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00:43	LemonLake	Sure thing, mate.
00:43	LemonLake	All you had to do was ask ^.^
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00:45	The_Beast	Sorry LemonLake
00:45	LemonLake	For what?
00:45	LemonLake	Making my day better?
00:45	LemonLake	Ã¸.Ã¸
00:45	realtinymonster	LemonLake: ...
00:45	realtinymonster	Shall we forgive and forget?
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00:45	realtinymonster	^GD sage advice
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00:45	Jordach	i already gave the BOFH warning shot
00:45	Jordach	also -
00:46	Exio4	LemonLake: it is a log scale
00:47	realtinymonster	#gitpack is open for buiseness!
00:47	LemonLake	realtinymonster: Woo
00:48	realtinymonster	^ sarcasm?
00:48	LemonLake	I'm interested in it
00:48	LemonLake	Your screenshot from earlier was neat
00:48	realtinymonster	yeah
00:48	realtinymonster	hold on
00:48	LemonLake	Got a link?
00:49	realtinymonster	yeah
00:50	realtinymonster	gtg
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01:34	The_Beast	Hello
01:35	The_Beast	stormchaser3000 you there?
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02:31	kizeren	gitpack?
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03:17	RTM[Kindle]	megaf: hi
03:18	Megaf	Hi there
03:18	Megaf	How are things RTM[Kindle] ?
03:19	RTM[Kindle]	fine. gitpack is almost public!
03:19	Megaf	sounds good
03:19	Megaf	Will it be use to use?
03:20	RTM[Kindle]	use to use?
03:20	Megaf	oops
03:20	Megaf	easy to use
03:21	RTM[Kindle]	as any dynamic texture pack can be.
03:21	Megaf	never mind
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03:21	Megaf	RTM[Kindle]; so just clone it to textures folder
03:22	Megaf	is that it?
03:22	RTM[Kindle]	mmhmm
03:22	RTM[Kindle]	and pull often
03:24	RTM[Kindle]	should be a challenge to keeep the MC and MT versions in sync
03:24	Megaf	its awesome
03:24	Megaf	Im testing it out right now
03:25	RTM[Kindle]	thanks, wanna help?
03:26	RTM[Kindle]	the newest thing is liquids
03:28	RTM[Kindle]	tomorrow comes furnace and chest
03:28	Megaf	is there wool already?
03:28	RTM[Kindle]	^ Megaf
03:29	RTM[Kindle]	i have concept drawings but not yet
03:31	RTM[Kindle]	http://zsoltisawesome.insomnia247.nl/gitpack/
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03:31	RTM[Kindle]	^ Megaf
03:36	RTM[Kindle]	VanessaE: You there?
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03:36	RTM[Kindle]	hi exio4
03:37	Megaf	RTM[Kindle]; I'm quite impressed actually
03:37	Megaf	you got good stuff
03:37	RTM[Kindle]	thanks!
03:38	Megaf	RTM[Kindle]; I'm making a new server and using git pack when you get more items
03:38	RTM[Kindle]	like the concept wool?
03:38	RTM[Kindle]	sweet!
03:40	VanessaE	yes?
03:40	RTM[Kindle]	^ Megaf (sorry)
03:42	RTM[Kindle]	did you see gitpack?
03:43	RTM[Kindle]	1
03:44	RTM[Kindle]	oops
03:45	RTM[Kindle]	<-- has slow replies because kindle
03:46	* RTM[Kindle]	hugs Megaf
03:46	kaeza	thought you were on iPhone
03:47	* Megaf	has slow replies because he is testing the gitpack
03:47	RTM[Kindle]	lol why?
03:47	RTM[Kindle]	kaeza: sarcasm?
03:47	Megaf	yep
03:48	kaeza	u dont say
03:48	Megaf	I don't
03:48	RTM[Kindle]	IRC sarcasm just don't work.....
03:49	kaeza[PC]	:^P
03:49	RTM[Kindle]	:D
03:50	RTM[Kindle]	lol
03:50	RTM[Kindle]	hmm
03:51	RTM[Kindle]	I wish SNES had a net connection
03:52	kaeza[PC]	it had
03:52	kaeza[PC]	sort of... BS Satellaview
03:52	RTM[Kindle]	!?!
03:52	kaeza[PC]	also... wut https://github.com/hdastwb/freeminer/commit/f59dd8840fe95bcf483813e0306fe8faa4ef9225
03:53	RTM[Kindle]	good enough for IRC?
03:53	Megaf[Debian]	RTM[Kindle]; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBAND
03:54	RTM[Kindle]	Megaf: Kindle browser is singletab
03:54	RTM[Kindle]	:/
03:54	Megaf[Debian]	RTM[Kindle]; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellaview
03:54	Megaf[Debian]	RTM[Kindle]; can't you get Opera for kindle?
03:55	RTM[Kindle]	msg it to zsoltisawesome
03:56	RTM[Kindle]	It's a Kindle 4 :/
03:57	RTM[Kindle]	so no, i cant
03:57	RTM[Kindle]	hmm
03:59	RTM[Kindle]	megaf: http://zsoltisawesome.insomnia247.nl/gitpack
03:59	RTM[Kindle]	bbs, checking links
04:06	Megaf[Debian]	Gitpack does looks good http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot1263062226.php
04:06	Megaf[Debian]	http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot1263074388.php
04:06	Megaf[Debian]	http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot1263094937.php
04:06	Megaf[Debian]	http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot1263082276.php
04:11	Megaf[Debian]	Brazilian Rock https://play.spotify.com/album/13WLR3zNusjN8Sc9E5WkoH
04:11	Megaf[Debian]	Brazilian real Rock, I mean
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04:28	RTM[Kindle]	Megaf[Debian]: back, any gitpack issues?
04:28	Megaf[Debian]	yep
04:28	Megaf[Debian]	the fence icon is the old fence
04:29	RTM[Kindle]	also, plz change nick back?
04:29	Back	:P
04:29	RTM[Kindle]	we haven't textured that yet
04:30	RTM[Kindle]	lal
04:31	RTM[Kindle]	!seen WindHero
04:31	MinetestBot	RTM[Kindle]: windhero was last seen at 2014-05-29 23:58:56 UTC on #minetest
04:34	RTM[Kindle]	#DEADFF is a cool color
04:34	RTM[Kindle]	heheh
04:36	RTM[Kindle]	Megaf: did you see the WIP wools?
04:36	Megaf	Im not sure
04:38	RTM[Kindle]	http://zsoltisawesome.insomnia247.nl/gitpack/red.png Megaf
04:38	RTM[Kindle]	and gray.png
04:39	RTM[Kindle]	and blue.png
04:39	RTM[Kindle]	you like?
04:41	* RTM[Kindle]	wonders why Megaf is slow
04:42	* Megaf	is surfing
04:42	Megaf	RTM[Kindle]; yep, that texture looks good
04:42	RTM[Kindle]	?
04:42	* Megaf	is surfing, on the interwebs
04:42	RTM[Kindle]	thanks
04:43	RTM[Kindle]	lol
04:44	RTM[Kindle]	no tab-complete on kindle...
04:47	RTM[Kindle]	GÃ¸Ã¸glyhocus!
04:49	RTM[Kindle]	teh kindle be not liking IRC
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04:52	* RTM[Kindle]	noms Megaf softly
04:55	* RTM[Kindle]	leaves
04:57	RTM[Kindle]	!tell WindHero I was on, you weren't...
04:57	MinetestBot	RTM[Kindle]: yeah, yeah
04:58	RTM[Kindle]	<3 MinetestBot
04:58	MinetestBot	<3 RTM[Kindle]
04:59	RTM[Kindle]	Megaf: Bye!
04:59	Megaf	cya
05:00	RTM[Kindle]	in a few hours!!
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06:45	Krock	http://xkcd.com/936/
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07:18	sfan5	meow
07:18	sfan5	hi every1
07:18	sfan5	:3
07:18	VanessaE	howdy
07:21	CraigyDavi	hi
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08:39	markveidemanis	Wu
08:40	markveidemanis	HI!
08:41	VanessaE	hi
08:44	markveidemanis	Oh shit wrong channel to have a rant in
08:44	markveidemanis	I thought this was anothe channel but Hi anyway
08:44	markveidemanis	My server crashed with the same bug again
08:44	VanessaE	what bug
08:45	markveidemanis	creativechanger/init.lua:138: attempt to index local 'player' (a nil value)
08:45	markveidemanis	I tried to fix it now
08:46	markveidemanis	if not player == nil and not player == "" then shit else print "LOL"
08:46	markveidemanis	I think I fixed it
08:46	markveidemanis	My shitty code
08:47	markveidemanis	My hobby: undoing
08:47	markveidemanis	tail -f nohup.out
08:48	VanessaE	if not xxxxx == nil is the same thing as writing if xxxxx
08:49	VanessaE	if player and player ~= "" ten shit else print "LOL" end
08:49	VanessaE	is how you would properly write the line above.
08:49	markveidemanis	This seems to work, i don't really understand those xxxxx
08:49	markveidemanis	Yeah, Lua, not my language
08:50	VanessaE	xxxx is what I often use as a substitute, same thing as writing "foo" or "blah"
08:50	VanessaE	anyway:
08:50	VanessaE	don't use if not foo == nil
08:50	VanessaE	don't use if not foo == "" either.
08:51	markveidemanis	Okay
08:51	markveidemanis	What's better?
08:51	VanessaE	the first one is a double negative, like saying "I ain't not going there".
08:51	VanessaE	instead of, if not foo == nil write, if foo
08:52	VanessaE	instead of, if not foo == "" write, if foo ~= ""
08:52	VanessaE	~= means "is not equal to"
08:52	markveidemanis	ok
08:52	markveidemanis	Right
08:53	markveidemanis	if player ~= nil and player ~= "" then
08:53	VanessaE	n o
08:53	VanessaE	rather,
08:53	VanessaE	if player and player ~= "" then
08:53	VanessaE	see, if something is nil, it evaluates as "false". anything else evaluates as "true"
08:54	markveidemanis	Ah, gotcha
08:54	markveidemanis	Someone told me that wasn't right first time...
08:54	VanessaE	so "if player" is the same, syntactically, as saying "if player ~= false"
08:54	VanessaE	now, if you're actually looking for "false" as distinct from "nil", then you have to check for it separately.
08:56	VanessaE	of course, if the player object is an empty string, it'll probably evaluate to false anyway, so you might be able to just do, if player then...
08:56	VanessaE	but see how it works.
08:57	VanessaE	oh, excuse me, I meant to say, "if player" is the same, syntactically, as saying "if player ~= false and player ~= nil"
08:57	VanessaE	but you get that.
08:58	markveidemanis	Ok
08:58	markveidemanis	What's 'pass' in lua
08:58	markveidemanis	I don't want to print lol anymore
08:59	VanessaE	pass?
08:59	VanessaE	not sure what that means
08:59	markveidemanis	if not then end?
08:59	markveidemanis	or else end
08:59	VanessaE	oh
08:59	VanessaE	just leave out the else clause
08:59	VanessaE	if foo then blah end
08:59	markveidemanis	ok
08:59	VanessaE	you don't need an else.
09:00	markveidemanis	Ok, it works
09:00	markveidemanis	Thanks!
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09:02	nman3600	hia
09:02	VanessaE	hi
09:07	markveidemanis	Hi nman
09:17	nman3600	Hi mark
09:17	nman3600	#multitest is up
09:18	nman3600	i was messing around with NBE yesterday and made a really crappy table
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09:29	markveidemanis	Sokomine, your lock mod doesn't work
09:29	markveidemanis	It does nothing on '/help'
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09:56	markveidemanis	I need help with the craft guide
09:56	markveidemanis	And the group: items
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10:03	nman3600	hey rubenwardy
10:03	rubenwardy	Hello!
10:03	nman3600	@all #multitest is up if you want to join and suggest things for the mod feel free to join
10:03	rubenwardy	and Hi All!
10:04	nman3600	rubenwardy i'm starting to get good at NBE :)
10:06	VanessaE	guten morgen, rubenwardy
10:06	VanessaE	rubenwardy: nodebox editor got a workout yesterday: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2005302014%20-%2012%3a04%3a41%20AM.png
10:06	VanessaE	:)
10:07	rubenwardy	Is it working okay?
10:07	rubenwardy	That is cool
10:07	rubenwardy	I like the bottom left one the most XD
10:07	nman3600	me 2
10:08	VanessaE	yes, it seems to work fine but for one issue: there's no way to zoom in on the perspective view. coulda sworn there was a key to do that at one tim,e
10:08	VanessaE	-,
10:09	nman3600	VannesaE there was i noticed that yesterday it was wasd and arrows but it doesn't work any more :(
10:09	rubenwardy	I think there was, but I most have removed it in a rewrite.
10:09	rubenwardy	(VanessaE)
10:09	LazyJ	Howdy, folks ;)
10:09	VanessaE	oh ok
10:09	VanessaE	hi LazyJ
10:10	LazyJ	VanessaE, is there another IRC setup for your server? Inchra.net seems to be toast atm.
10:10	nman3600	heya Lazyj
10:10	VanessaE	rubenwardy: that aside, it seems good. The ability to flip the X and Z views to their opposite sides would be good, and especially useful would be the ability to sort all or part of the nodebox list by any of the coordinates (at my discretion)
10:10	VanessaE	LazyJ: use 192.99.11.10 for your IRC server.
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10:11	VanessaE	that's digitalaudioconcepts.com, still goes into inchra net but that'll get around the bad DNS server.
10:13	rubenwardy	Added all those suggestions to todo.
10:14	VanessaE	thanks :)
10:15	VanessaE	anyways it worked pretty well this time around (I re-cloned before designing those objects)
10:15	VanessaE	a glitch I noticed: sometimes a click on a node entry in the list is half-ignored.
10:15	VanessaE	nodebox entry*
10:15	VanessaE	the entry will highlight, but the nodebox itself won't get selected.
10:16	rubenwardy	That is interesting
10:16	VanessaE	also, don't scroll the list unless the entry is already partially off the top/bottom
10:16	rubenwardy	That is irrlicht. I don't control that :P
10:16	VanessaE	oh ok
10:17	VanessaE	well better to move it to the center of the list then if you can
10:18	LazyJ	Thanks, VanessaE. Now I have that noisy channel again. ;)
10:18	VanessaE	haha
10:18	markveidemanis	Is the IRC mod a processor hog?
10:19	VanessaE	markveidemanis: not that I've see
10:19	markveidemanis	WIll 256MB ram do?
10:19	VanessaE	seen*
10:19	markveidemanis	15 players
10:19	VanessaE	markveidemanis: no.
10:19	VanessaE	512MB - you need to leave some overhead for your OS too
10:19	markveidemanis	Minetest's pretty much the only thing
10:19	markveidemanis	Killed apache and sendmail
10:20	VanessaE	you can get by with 256 MB if you really must but it'll be slow
10:20	rubenwardy	!title https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/commit/44461ce144178a1de408a232855997aca43f17f7
10:20	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: Possible fix to node box list box selection Â· 44461ce Â· rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor Â· GitHub
10:20	VanessaE	hope you got enough swap.
10:21	markveidemanis	128M swap
10:21	VanessaE	rubenwardy: oh also, if I start the nodebox editor and I'm not already in its top level dir, none of its textures will load.
10:21	LazyJ	Github... Is there a drag-n-drop or synch function like Dropbox or is it all command-line?
10:22	VanessaE	might be a good idea to have it internally `cd` to one level up from bin.
10:22	VanessaE	or otherwise try to find its files ;)
10:22	rubenwardy	Yeah, I know about that. ShdowNinja changed that so it is run with ./bin/nodeboxeditor.
10:22	rubenwardy	The cd thing will be done XD
10:23	VanessaE	ok :)
10:23	VanessaE	insert list of other random bugs that I haven't yet discovered ;)
10:23	VanessaE	good old Corner-case Vanessa :D
10:24	VanessaE	where's the TODO at anyway? :)
10:25	rubenwardy	I can't notice all the errors/bugs/glitches myself, so it report it is good
10:25	rubenwardy	https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/issues?state=open
10:25	VanessaE	oh derp
10:26	rubenwardy	XD
10:26	VanessaE	#15 is not a problem anymore under Xubuntu 14.04
10:27	VanessaE	at least not for me, worked right out of the box.
10:28	rubenwardy	Renamed. It still happens to some people
10:28	VanessaE	oh ok
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10:29	VanessaE	another thing that would be useful, tab-formatting of the output of the "export" function
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10:32	VanessaE	rubenwardy: lemme revise that last statement... another thing that would be useful, decimal-aligned output of the "export" function, e.g. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7550544/
10:33	VanessaE	(always making sure there's one or more spaces after a comma)
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10:55	* VanessaE	pokes rubenwardy
10:55	VanessaE	hi john
10:55	rubenwardy	hmmmm/
10:55	rubenwardy	Interesting suggestion#
10:55	VanessaE	rubenwardy: I find that formatting nodebox tables in that manner infinitely easier to read and edit.
10:55	rubenwardy	can't you just do s/", "/",\t" in a text editor?
10:56	VanessaE	I could but that doesn't always work, especially when some numbers are three decimal places and some are 9 ;-)
10:56	VanessaE	(plus space-formatting them keeps the line lengths shorter)
10:57	markveidemanis	My creative mod is a fail
10:57	VanessaE	markveidemanis: why?
10:57	markveidemanis	Doesn't update on login anymore
10:57	markveidemanis	And i don't know Lua
10:57	markveidemanis	And how to make it compatible with new minetest
10:57	markveidemanis	It used to work
10:58	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/9239099 works if i relog
11:11	markveidemanis	please help
11:11	markveidemanis	It doesn't update instantly
11:11	VanessaE	no idea
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11:12	markveidemanis	Config: http://pastie.org/9239130
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11:20	Exio4	calinou's idea for health would be a nice to have in default in some time
11:20	Exio4	what do you think?
11:20	Exio4	going to a 100 "HP" health bar
11:20	VanessaE	that would be a good idea, yes
11:21	VanessaE	having only 20 hp to work with when assigning values to food makes things tricky.
11:21	VanessaE	causes some foods to become overvalued
11:21	VanessaE	(especially "raw" ones)
11:22	VanessaE	it would require a lot of changes to a fair number of mods though
11:22	VanessaE	as well as many games
11:22	VanessaE	just making it allow for decimal values would be easier
11:23	VanessaE	backward compatible with old mods too
11:23	VanessaE	(in theory)'
11:23	rubenwardy	No mods will be broken if you multiply the effect using minetest.register_on_item_eat
11:25	VanessaE	multiply it how?
11:25	VanessaE	you mean like 100 hp internally and just so supplied #hearts * 5?
11:25	VanessaE	do*
11:26	rubenwardy	hp_change * (100/6)
11:26	VanessaE	how would a mod specify a different value other than 1-20? e.g. to take full advantage of finer graduation?
11:26	rubenwardy	if 6 is the current max hp
11:27	rubenwardy	add a flag? use a table as hp_change?
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11:27	rubenwardy	decimals?
11:27	VanessaE	decimals makes the most sense
11:27	VanessaE	in which case, couldn't the whole thing be handled as floats?
11:28	VanessaE	(without up-converting to the proposed 1-100 range)
11:29	LemonLake	Statbars would need to support it
11:29	Exio4	i'd do this for 0.5
11:29	LemonLake	0.4.10*
11:29	Exio4	0.5*
11:30	LemonLake	0.4.10*
11:30	Exio4	i repeat, 0.5 :)
11:30	Exio4	at same time everything breaks
11:30	kaeza[PC]	this would prolly need a new API, say, set_hp_new(cur_hp [, max_hp]) or whatever, to keep set_hp() or whatever backwards compatible
11:30	Jordach	TIL the FSF needs a network / server admin who can get extremely high nethack scores
11:30	LemonLake	But Exio, it's 0.4.10
11:30	kaeza	or wait until 0.5.0 :)
11:30	LemonLake	The next version is 0.4.10
11:31	Exio4	i'm not talking about the 0.4.x tree
11:31	VanessaE	LemonLake: he means the proposed version step after 0.4.10, when everything is gonna go to hell for a short while
11:31	VanessaE	:)
11:31	LemonLake	Just a small hp change isn't enough for a major release
11:31	LemonLake	Ah okay.
11:31	kaeza	LemonLake, it will be 0.4.10, but sometime in the future (not necessarily immediately) the 0.4 series will go
11:32	Jordach	we'll probably get 0.4.13 and then move onto 0.5
11:32	kaeza	...and hardware lighting!
11:32	* kaeza	hides
11:32	VanessaE	kaeza: I think HW lighting will be sooner than that
11:33	kaeza	multiple textures for nodeboxes? client side scripting? accelerated hadron colliders? who knows?
11:34	VanessaE	heh
11:34	Exio4	lol
11:34	LemonLake	kaeza, I think VanessaE found a way to do multitextured nodeboxes
11:34	VanessaE	you forgot to mention it having blackjack and hookers. :P
11:34	kaeza	:P
11:34	VanessaE	LemonLake: no, I faked it. and he already saw the screenshot :)
11:34	LemonLake	Ah
11:35	LemonLake	I spent hours trying to figure out how you managed it to look like that
11:35	Exio4	the nice thing of 0.5 will be the "cleaning up" part
11:35	Exio4	imo ^
11:35	LemonLake	^
11:35	Exio4	because the code is full of legacy code and shit that is supossed to be compatible w/ older versions
11:35	VanessaE	I tell you what, I really wished I had per-nodebox textures while doing those updates, but at the same time I'm glad I didn't, because I really really didn't want to have to actually make them.
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11:35	LemonLake	Haha
11:36	LemonLake	Maybe UV mapping?
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11:36	LemonLake	Greeting NakedFury and nman3600
11:36	Jordach	meshnodes coukd solve all of that ;)
11:36	VanessaE	idk
11:36	kaeza	in the meantime, have to use buggy entities :(
11:36	VanessaE	Jordach: maybe
11:36	nman3600	Hi LemonLake #multitest is up
11:36	LemonLake	I quite like the sound of UV mapping, actually
11:37	VanessaE	kaeza: yeah :-/
11:37	kaeza	well, not too buggy as of late
11:37	LemonLake	nman3600: #multitest is always up, I ChanServ'd it for you
11:37	nman3600	ik
11:37	nman3600	i'm on it though that's what i meant
11:37	kaeza	used to be worse (/me looks at entity duplication)
11:37	LemonLake	Ã¸.o
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11:39	Exio4	i don't code a shit though
11:39	VanessaE	ok, time for me to get to bed.... about four hours late
11:39	VanessaE	night all
11:39	Exio4	wtf
11:39	Exio4	night VanessaE
11:39	kaeza	night V
11:39	LemonLake	G'night VanessaE
11:39	LazyJ	G'night, VanessaE ;)
11:40	Jordach	c-c-c-c-c-c-combo breaker
11:41	LemonLake	What does an InvRef list look like?
11:42	kaeza	>The Player's total cubic volume is 1664 cubic pixels, and since each pixel is 244.140625 cubic centimeter, the player's total volume is 406,250 cubic centimeters. The average human body weighs 1.062 grams/cubic centimeter. This means that the player's weight is exactly 431.44 Kg (916.16 lbs).
11:43	LemonLake	Ã¸.Ã¸
11:43	LemonLake	player is fat
11:44	kaeza	that can't be right
11:45	Exio4	1664 cubic pixels?
11:45	LemonLake	That's nearly 7x the world average
11:45	Exio4	how did he measured that
11:45	Exio4	16x16x16?
11:45	kaeza	based on default skin size and size of model in-game
11:45	kaeza	probably
11:45	Exio4	ah
11:46	Exio4	k
11:46	LemonLake	I got 1024 for the head and the torso
11:46	LemonLake	so I think 1664 sounds about right
11:46	LazyJ	Hmm... I convinced that some players are hollow and empty, particularly above the shoulders. That should make their weight go down. ;)-
11:46	LemonLake	true
11:46	kaeza	heh
11:47	LemonLake	Be careful with your terms here guys
11:47	LemonLake	Mass != weight
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11:48	Exio4	the gravity is minetest isn't fixed
11:48	LemonLake	So you're being pulled less when higher up?
11:48	Exio4	it can be negative, can't it?
11:48	LemonLake	In reality, no
11:48	Jordach	!c (88)+((128)3)+((44)4)+((128)*4)
11:48	MinetestBot	800
11:48	Jordach	800 pixels if i did it right
11:48	LemonLake	That would just be little gravity and a lot of velocity
11:48	Exio4	LemonLake: reality? what is that game
11:49	LemonLake	It's the one where you get off your fat ass and see the outside world
11:49	LemonLake	Best game you'll ever play
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11:49	nman3600_	lol fail
11:49	Exio4	is it that game with 64k resolution but shitty gameplay?
11:49	kaeza	don't play it; it's proprietary and costs way too much
11:49	LazyJ	wb, Megaf ;)
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11:50	Exio4	somewhen i'll build elsa's ice castle in minetest >:D
11:50	nman3600	lol u shou;d
11:50	Megaf	Hi all
11:50	Megaf	thanks LazyJ
11:50	Megaf	!up minetest.megaf.info 30003
11:50	nman3600	hi Megaf
11:50	kaeza	goddude0 doesn't want to make it open source :(
11:50	MinetestBot	minetest.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down
11:50	LemonLake	I don't think it's worth it Exio4
11:50	Exio4	IT IS WORTH IT
11:50	LemonLake	It lacks a lot of detail, you'll be improvising a lot
11:51	Megaf	04:52:10: ACTION[ServerThread]: madigan joins game. List of players: cathryn nikanikolaeva Lion Zerdo madigan
11:51	Megaf	Segmentation fault
11:51	Megaf	That's for sure is a well coded game
11:51	Exio4	you'll be extrapolating a lot (?)
11:51	kaeza	gdbiyf
11:51	LemonLake	Pretty much, Exio4
11:53	Exio4	i should watch frozen again and start taking notes of the moments with parts of the castle
11:53	Megaf	Now my server wont even start
11:53	Megaf	http://paste.debian.net/102548/
11:53	LazyJ	Segmentation fault? Hopefully one day those will be things of the past. My 2014_05_24 release Minetest (compiled on Linux) has been dumping it's core more often than I can remember.
11:53	LemonLake	Megaf: From a glance it looks like cathryn has a corrupt file
11:54	Megaf	I's unbeliavable how unstable this piece of sofware is
11:54	nman3600	i lost my world where i had my giant enderman statue
11:55	LemonLake	I have no idea where all your problems are coming from, megaf
11:55	nman3600	now i have to rebuild it :(
11:55	Megaf	it's really easy to get players files corrupted
11:55	LemonLake	I'm having NONE of these
11:55	Exio4	try to debug them by yourself
11:55	LazyJ	Megaf, setup a script to delete *.~mt files before restart.
11:55	Exio4	the devs can't reproduce your exact usecase => they can't fix it
11:55	LemonLake	^
11:56	LemonLake	Megaf, are you sure it's not just something YOU're doing to cause it?
11:56	Megaf	LazyJ; devs would be able to reproduce that if they actually player the game
11:56	LemonLake	Because the software is hardly this unstable for everyone else
11:56	LazyJ	That was LemonLake, Megaf.
11:56	Megaf	I'm the most hardware user, I'm pretty good in finding bugs on any software I use
11:57	LemonLake	LazyJ: Megaf: It was actually Exio4
11:57	Exio4	:(
11:57	Exio4	i don't exist, i'm just part of your nightmare!
11:57	LemonLake	ohk
11:57	nman3600	i'm not rebuilding the whole enderman statue :(
11:57	kaeza	It was Col. Mustard in the Kitchen with the Pipe.
11:58	LazyJ	We used to get PlayerArgsEnd crashes regularly. That's improved with MT 0.4.9. The *.~mt files are deleted when the server restarts.
11:58	Megaf	LazyJ; rm -rf "*.~mt"
11:58	Exio4	>"" >shell glob
11:58	Megaf	is that ok?
11:58	Exio4	it doesn't work that way
11:58	Exio4	and why -r?
11:58	Exio4	use rm -f *.~mt
11:58	Megaf	habit
11:58	LemonLake	Exio4: +
11:58	Exio4	just for safety reasonz, -r is bad
11:58	Exio4	unless you need it
11:59	* Exio4	already rm -rf'd some "directories" and i didn't realize til 15 seconds later
11:59	LemonLake	http://imgur.com/yxLVO2Y
11:59	LemonLake	So much for dumping the inventory to see what it looks like....
11:59	Megaf	Actually minetesert server showed itself much more stable on the last 3 months
11:59	* kaeza	made Jordach `rm -fr /*`
11:59	kaeza	:D
11:59	Megaf	for 2 months I havend had a single crash
11:59	Megaf	but now it's happening again
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11:59	LemonLake	I don't believe that
12:00	Megaf	!up minetest.megaf.info 30003
12:00	MinetestBot	minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (456ms)
12:00	LemonLake	You keep coming to us complaining about crashes that we hardly ever get
12:00	Megaf	And what changed you may ask, I added more mods
12:00	LemonLake	Remove said mods.
12:00	LemonLake	That'll fix it
12:00	Megaf	LemonLake; the mods I added are homedecor, moretress and plantlife
12:00	LemonLake	Mhm
12:00	Megaf	!seen asie
12:00	MinetestBot	Megaf: asie was last seen at 2014-05-29 17:25:20 UTC on ##minetest-next
12:01	LazyJ	Servers are Minetest's real-time, "kitchen testing", front lines.
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12:01	LemonLake	Can I make the hotbar not scale with the window?
12:02	Megaf	I wish minetest were more tested by it's own developers
12:02	LemonLake	It's tested quite a lot by them I should believe
12:02	LemonLake	Have you seen the intense activity in #minetest-dev?
12:02	Megaf	the only developer I see that test it's software a lot is proller
12:02	LemonLake	</sarcasm>
12:02	LazyJ	What I've found is mod may work fine in all the tests I can think of but when you turn the players loose with it, they find the stuff you would never have thought of. ;)
12:03	Megaf	[09:02:26] <LemonLake> Have you seen the intense activity in #minetest-dev?
12:03	Megaf	yep
12:03	Megaf	some of the activity are cause by me
12:03	LemonLake	It can get quite crazy in there at night, though
12:03	LemonLake	When the likes of sapier, ShadowNinja, VanessaE, proller etc are active
12:03	proller	sapier never plays gmae.
12:03	proller	game
12:04	LemonLake	ohai proller
12:04	Exio4	proller is a nice guy
12:04	Megaf	proller; but you run the servers
12:04	Exio4	he is learning new ways to spam freeminer
12:04	LemonLake	proller has sweg
12:04	Megaf	so you see when it crashes
12:04	Megaf	and try to fix
12:04	proller	yes, i fix most server issues in fm
12:04	proller	but now adds some new ;)
12:05	LemonLake	<LemonLake> Can I make the hotbar not scale with the window?
12:05	Megaf	I'm late for work alreay, see you soon
12:05	Exio4	meh k
12:05	LazyJ	Take care, Megaf ;)
12:05	Exio4	next time try to fix the bugs by yourself
12:05	LemonLake	^^^6
12:05	proller	now FM server can handle 100+ players
12:05	LemonLake	okewl
12:06	Megaf	btw, it's quite weird having timeouts with no players online http://paste.debian.net/102549/
12:06	LemonLake	Btw d00ds, can you have an animated statbar?
12:06	LemonLake	I tried previously to no luck
12:07	Exio4	Megaf: why?
12:07	LazyJ	I see a lot of those time-outs in our logs.
12:07	LemonLake	kden, no buddy cares
12:07	LazyJ	They didn't seem to be causing a problem so I just ignore them.
12:07	LemonLake	5
12:07	LemonLake	dafuq ^
12:07	LazyJ	They even show up in my singleplayer world logs.
12:08	LemonLake	^
12:08	Exio4	it is a ghost
12:08	Exio4	they're our herobrine
12:08	LemonLake	herobrine is such a stupid thing that kids believe in
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12:09	LemonLake	am I devoiced or something?
12:09	LazyJ	Heh. Wait till they are old enough to have jobs. "Herobrine" does nasty things to their paychecks before they receive them. :/
12:10	LemonLake	because they buy too many skinpacks on the xbox edition
12:12	Jordach	LemonLake, remind me to add autoban for nicks that kids imitate for BFD servers
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12:16	Jordach	>auto preset generation >auther box has computer says no
12:21	rubenwardy	180 faces, took 5 minutes in blender: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ls57b54zs470po/newtower.png?dl=1
12:25	Megaf	I'm back, now at workplace
12:26	Megaf	LazyJ: well, that should not happen
12:26	Megaf	I need more staff on my server
12:26	LazyJ	wb, Megaf ;)
12:26	LazyJ	Sorry, Megaf, I lost track of the chat. What was the topic?
12:27	Megaf	[09:06:01] <Megaf> btw, it's quite weird having timeouts with no players online http://paste.debian.net/102549/
12:27	Megaf	[09:07:36] <LazyJ> They didn't seem to be causing a problem so I just ignore them.
12:27	LazyJ	Ah.
12:27	LazyJ	Yup. I noticed them sometime within the 0.4.9 series.
12:27	LazyJ	The hotbar null thing too.
12:28	LazyJ	The hotbar null thing still shows up on the initial start of my more recent 0.4.9 clients but not as bad as I've seen reported.
12:28	rubenwardy	awesome
12:29	LazyJ	Those timeouts also show up in my singleplayer logs.
12:29	rubenwardy	now optimise for a video game XD
12:29	LazyJ	At times these bugs can be frustrating. I just try to take them in stride.
12:30	LazyJ	I have over a years worth of Github downloads of Minetest releases all the way back to 0.4.2r... I think.
12:30	LazyJ	Once in a while I'll compile one and I am reminded of how far MT has come.
12:30	Megaf	heh
12:31	kaeza	if you clone the repo, you can go back to the first version uploaded ;)
12:31	LazyJ	There are more than a few of the unstable releases that really fubared the main menu and couldn't create a minetest.conf.
12:31	LazyJ	Those were a hassle.
12:31	Megaf	Well, I've been running Minetest Server for almost two years now
12:31	LazyJ	I'm still trying to figure out Github, kaeza.
12:32	LazyJ	Trying to get things to upload is such a hassle.
12:32	FreeFull	The wonders of version control
12:33	LazyJ	Version control is still an "unknown" for me.
12:33	rubenwardy	Kaeza, LazyJ: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/4e249fb3fbf75f0359758760d88e22aa5b14533c
12:33	LazyJ	All this stuff is new territory for me. (uftah!)
12:34	kaeza	rubenwardy, I already tried it :)
12:34	rubenwardy	XD
12:34	kaeza	had a screenie somewhere
12:34	rubenwardy	What features does it have?
12:34	rubenwardy	john_minetest: make good use of textures when doing low poly.
12:35	rubenwardy	With 2000 polys? nah
12:35	LazyJ	Thanks for the link, kaeza ;)
12:35	rubenwardy	500 - 1000 is what I would expect
12:35	rubenwardy	LazyJ: :S
12:35	rubenwardy	Which is why it isn't 50 polys
12:36	rubenwardy	Actually, that is probably impossible
12:37	kaeza	LazyJ, s/kaeza/rubenwardy/
12:37	* LazyJ	still has no idea what that means... so donut/coffee/LazyJ/now. ;)-
12:37	rubenwardy	<rubenwardy> Kaeza, LazyJ: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/4e249fb3fbf75f0359758760d88e22aa5b14533c
12:38	rubenwardy	<LazyJ> Thanks for the link, kaeza ;)
12:39	rubenwardy	LazyJ: s/one/two means replace one with two
12:39	LazyJ	Ah.
12:39	rubenwardy	To find that link, I had to guess the number of the last page of commits
12:40	rubenwardy	Went like this: 50, 200, 100, 105, 105 (hit!)
12:40	rubenwardy	Went like this: 50, 200, 100, 105, 104 (hit!)
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12:51	rubenwardy	Why a time out of 4 minuts, 12 seconds? Weird choice
12:51	markveidemanis	Well
12:51	markveidemanis	I had a go at lua
12:51	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/9239504
12:51	markveidemanis	It prints bad player
12:54	markveidemanis	lol russian people
12:54	markveidemanis	<Masha> Character conversion failed!
12:56	Megaf	holy crap, it crashed AGAIN http://paste.debian.net/102554/
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12:56	Megaf	I ran out of disk space!!!!!!!!!!!
12:57	Megaf	rollback.sqlite gets huge very quicly
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12:59	rubenwardy	It would be good to have a flag in each map block which indicates if it has been modified. Then you could do minetest --database-clean --worldname one
12:59	rubenwardy	Deletes all unmodified map blocks
13:00	Megaf	yep, maps gets huge too
13:01	rubenwardy	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=143347#p143347
13:02	Exio4	i hate webpages that i have to see with only 25% of my resolution
13:03	proller	its also solved in fm ;)
13:03	rubenwardy	Is everything solved in fm?
13:03	LemonLake	rofl
13:03	Jordach	including the answer to everything and the universe
13:04	proller	no, but most annoying things
13:04	LemonLake	proller
13:04	LemonLake	in fm can you hide player nametags?
13:04	rubenwardy	http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/full-list-of-changes-from-minetest.110/
13:04	proller	as in mt, only far
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13:06	Exio4	proller: can freeminer take my exams?
13:07	Megaf	auto reconnect if connection lost
13:07	Megaf	do not save not changed generated blocks (reduce base size 5-20x)
13:07	Megaf	well done proller
13:07	Megaf	now get rid of leveldb dependency and I will test freeminer
13:07	proller	fm saves players to leveldb
13:08	proller	and have kv api for mods
13:09	proller	installing leveldb much easier
13:10	Megaf	proller: can't you bundle leveldb?
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13:12	* Megaf	apologizes for the last two crashes and complains about corrupted players files
13:12	Megaf	that was not a minetest fault at all
13:12	proller	bundle to rpi??
13:12	Megaf	my system just ran out of space
13:12	Megaf	why everyone think I run a full featured minetest server on raspberry pi?
13:12	Megaf	That's jsut impossible
13:13	proller	fm - possible
13:13	LemonLake	Why do people think you're using a raspberry pi?
13:13	LemonLake	A pi isn't for fully-fledged use, it's just for educational purposes
13:13	kaeza	why ARE you using an RPi for Minetest in the first place?
13:13	LemonLake	^
13:13	Megaf	LemonLake: Actually I do run simple minetest server on a Pi
13:13	LemonLake	Why?
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13:14	Megaf	my Pixel Art server runs on a Pi
13:14	nman3600	hi
13:14	LemonLake	Yes, but why?
13:14	Megaf	LemonLake: because I can and the Pi have enough power for it
13:14	Megaf	!up minetest.megaf.info 30001
13:14	MinetestBot	minetest.megaf.info:30001 seems to be down
13:14	kaeza	lol
13:14	Megaf	lol
13:14	nman3600	lol hi
13:14	Megaf	not Pis fault...
13:14	LemonLake	I think it is
13:14	Megaf	that server used to have a month of uptime (minetest server uptime)
13:15	Megaf	but someone made something nasty to minetest and it will crash now
13:15	LemonLake	Megaf: I think a lot of the problems you come to us with are actually just due to your setup
13:15	LemonLake	Not minetest's updates.
13:15	kaeza	use Freeminer! it has mongodb and can support 1e+100 players at once consuming 0bytes of network!
13:16	LemonLake	^
13:16	RTM[Console]	kaeza: holy sht
13:16	LemonLake	Hey RTM ^.^
13:16	RTM[Console]	that sounds promising!
13:16	RTM[Console]	LemonLake: Hey man!
13:16	Megaf	well, no crrupted things on the last crash
13:16	Megaf	that's good
13:17	RTM[Console]	LemonLake: UTC?
13:17	LemonLake	Ã¸.Ã¸
13:17	RTM[Console]	lol
13:17	RTM[Console]	./ctcp LemonLake TIME
13:17	LemonLake	I realised
13:17	LemonLake	RTM[Console]: BST
13:18	RTM[Console]	Woot! MK8 comes out today!
13:18	LemonLake	@D
13:18	LemonLake	:D
13:18	RTM[Console]	LemonLake: :P My computer says its UTC and auto-ajusts :P
13:18	RTM[Console]	*adjusts
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13:19	LemonLake	You're an hour ahead of me
13:19	LemonLake	I'm assuming europe?
13:19	RTM[Console]	Nein
13:19	RTM[Console]	my server (which I am connected from) is in the Netherlands
13:19	Megaf	!up minetest.megaf.info 30003
13:19	MinetestBot	minetest.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down
13:19	RTM[Console]	But its MST around here :D
13:19	Megaf	!up minetest.megaf.info 30003
13:19	MinetestBot	minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (387ms)
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13:20	Megaf	ok, main server is up and running
13:20	RTM[Console]	Megaf: Nice!
13:20	Megaf	now, let's fix the Pi one
13:20	RTM[Console]	yeah...
13:20	RTM[Console]	I like Pi! :D
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13:20	Megaf	The Pi one just ran out of RAM
13:20	Megaf	3136 wrote "" to sign at (196,3,171)
13:20	Megaf	konghoua wrote "a free room" to sign at (201,4,170)
13:20	Megaf	Killed
13:21	RTM[Console]	kaeza [~kaezaunaffiliated/kaeza] requested unknown CTCP NOPE from
13:21	RTM[Console]	RTM[Console]:
13:21	Megaf	due to a fault on my configuration
13:21	RTM[Console]	kaeza: WTF?
13:21	Krock	:p ^
13:23	RTM[Console]	LemonLake: Obvious be the fact that my nick has a suffix! Woot!
13:23	RTM[Console]	*by
13:23	RTM[Console]	irssi FTW
13:24	Krock	RTM[Console], who are you?
13:24	RTM[Console]	relatinymonster, connected from NL
13:24	RTM[Console]	via console
13:25	RTM[Console]	*realtinymonster
13:25	Krock	horrible.. you can't even spell your name correctly
13:25	RTM[Console]	:/ i just woke up
13:25	RTM[Console]	it be 7:25 here
13:25	RTM[Console]	in da morning
13:26	rubenwardy	I love the freeminer main menu. The server list icons are good
13:26	rubenwardy	proller
13:26	LemonLake	Can I sets the max stack size of an item?
13:26	RTM[Console]	Funny thing: Hugary is in the same timezone as my server!
13:26	LemonLake	I want to make it so that default:assaultriflebullets can stack to 440
13:27	Jordach	LemonLake, add max_stack = 440 in the craftitem def
13:27	rubenwardy	Loading screen doesn't match, though
13:27	LemonLake	Oh sweet, thanks!
13:27	Jordach	or was it stack_max
13:27	LemonLake	kaeza: Ammo definitions ARE just craftitems, right?
13:27	Jordach	!dev max_stack
13:27	MinetestBot	"There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/max_stack
13:27	RTM[Console]	rubenwardy: i'm sure they will get to it eventually
13:27	Jordach	!dev stack_max
13:27	LemonLake	http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_craftitem
13:27	LemonLake	stack_max
13:27	MinetestBot	"There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/stack_max
13:27	kaeza	LemonLake, kinda
13:28	kaeza	MinetestBot, stop lagging
13:28	rubenwardy	I like the idea of a loading bar at the bottem, and a wiki article in the centre. or something. maybe a screenshot
13:28	kaeza	MinetestBot!
13:28	MinetestBot	kaeza!
13:28	RTM[Console]	Lag!
13:28	LemonLake	kaeza: So if I just put in stack_max in the regular definiton, not in firearms={}, it should work right?
13:28	RTM[Console]	Latency Lag!
13:28	RTM[Console]	Megaf: I looked at XBAND and Satellaview
13:28	kaeza	LemonLake, the stack_max only affects how many bullets you can stack in your inv
13:29	kaeza	(per stack)
13:29	Megaf	RTM[Console]: That's interesting, isnt it?
13:29	LemonLake	I know
13:29	kaeza	if you want bigger magazines, you modify the definition [[somewhere]]
13:29	LemonLake	I mean, if I use a normal item definition thingy outside firearms={}, it just works like normal yes?
13:29	* Megaf	is compining a new build on the Raspberry Pi, that will take a while
13:29	kaeza	yep
13:30	LemonLake	Why not just build it on a proper machine then take it over to the PI on an SD card?
13:31	Megaf	LemonLake: Because I do everything over ssh, I still could just rsync
13:31	Megaf	but I'm not sure about cross compiling
13:31	LemonLake	hm
13:31	Megaf	It does not souds right
13:31	Megaf	sounds*
13:31	LemonLake	What should I call the shotgunner class?
13:32	LemonLake	I have Infantry for assault rifle, Support for sniper
13:32	RTM[Console]	Exactly that^
13:32	LemonLake	Well okay then
13:32	kaeza	BTW, the docs are quite specific in that respect: https://github.com/kaeza/mt-firearms/blob/master/firearmslib/ammo.lua#L20
13:32	RTM[Console]	sonds cool
13:32	RTM[Console]	wait...
13:32	RTM[Console]	Firearms!
13:32	kaeza	(except for that obvious copy & paste error :^P)
13:33	LemonLake	Oh of course :L
13:33	LemonLake	Firearms is the biggest thing in this gamemode :P
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13:34	LemonLake	Hey nman3600, wanna test after I'm done adding classes?
13:34	nman3600	sure LemonLake
13:35	LemonLake	Just need to add the ace.register_class function, put it into the HUD then we can play
13:36	RTM[Console]	Megaf: https://github.com/realtinymonster/gitpack-minetest/pull/13
13:36	Megaf	RTM[Console]: I will test that when I'm home
13:36	RTM[Console]	ok
13:37	LemonLake	RTM, gotta be honest
13:37	LemonLake	Gitpack has a lot of textures that look like just noise
13:37	LemonLake	But a lot of them actually look really nice
13:37	RTM[Console]	Yeah
13:38	RTM[Console]	that gravel isn't supposed to be there :?
13:39	* Megaf	thinking in creating his very own game from scratch
13:39	LemonLake	Good luck with that
13:39	LemonLake	I thought you said you had no programming experience?
13:39	Megaf	I mean, minetest game
13:39	rubenwardy	!title http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/awards-awards.139/
13:39	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: Mod - Awards [awards] \| Freeminer Forums
13:40	LemonLake	Ah
13:40	LemonLake	I'm working on one right now, it's like Ace of Spades
13:40	LemonLake	Jordach: Didn't you make an AoS like gamemode?
13:41	RTM[Console]	LemonLake: I made a moon gamemode :D
13:42	Krock	ack.. my mobile phone's battery is gonna _DIE_
13:42	RTM[Console]	Don't DIEEEEEEEE!
13:42	LemonLake	Krock: This is not google+
13:42	Krock	air came inside and it's a bit thicker now
13:42	Krock	LemonLake, omg oops
13:42	* Krock	does like worried
13:43	kaeza	you do what?
13:43	* RTM[Console]	slaps Krock with a metal defense fish
13:43	* Krock	slaps RTM[Console] for having brackets in the name
13:44	RTM[Console]	Krock: what's wrong with that?
13:44	* LemonLake	also slaps RTM[Console] for having brackets in the name
13:44	LemonLake	It looks like dog shit
13:44	RTM[Console]	Woot! Dog Shit!
13:44	LemonLake	You don't need to show off that you're in console, either
13:44	* Krock	slaps RTM[Console] cuz LemonLake slapped too
13:44	LemonLake	There.
13:44	realtinymonster	there
13:45	realtinymonster	lol
13:45	* Krock	slaps realtinymonster for the love of slapping statisics
13:45	realtinymonster	yeah! mode +O!
13:46	* realtinymonster	slaps ACTION for fun
13:46	* Krock	slaps realtinymonster for slapping an offline user
13:46	* LemonLake	slaps himself
13:46	* realtinymonster	slaps Krock for slapping an online user
13:48	rubenwardy	!rainbow realtinymonster smells like rainbows!
13:48	MinetestBot	4r4e4a7l7t7i8n8y8m3o3n3ster6 6s6mell4s4 4l7i7k7e8 8r8a3i3n3bows6!
13:48	realtinymonster	hmm
13:48	LemonLake	!rainbow Rainbows are rainbowy, deal with it
13:48	MinetestBot	4R4a4i7n7b7o8w8s8 3a3r3e ra6i6n6bowy4,4 4d7e7a7l8 8w8i3t3h3 it
13:49	realtinymonster	I didn't get highlighted by that...
13:49	LemonLake	Because it has loads of CTRL + K and numbers in between it that the client parses
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13:49	LemonLake	but it highlights before it parses them
13:50	realtinymonster	but when rubenwardy said !rainbow realtinymonster it didn't hilight
13:50	LemonLake	"it highlights before it parses them"
13:50	LemonLake	Some clients do, some clients dont
13:50	realtinymonster	hmm
13:50	realtinymonster	od
13:51	LemonLake	4r4e4a7l7t7i8n8y8m3o3n3s12t12e12r6
13:51	LemonLake	Unless your name is that, your client wouldn't highlight it
13:51	* Krock	slaps celeron55 for having the name of my CPU
13:51	Krock	(name, not numbers.)
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13:53	realtinymonster	ASCIIFriend says hello!
13:53		werwerwer_ joined #minetest
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13:53	markveidemanis	I made a massive cube
13:53	realtinymonster	0/
13:53	realtinymonster	/Y
13:53	realtinymonster	/ \
13:53	markveidemanis	I need to make it netter
13:53	markveidemanis	(better
13:53	kaeza	nether!
13:53	LemonLake	ASCIIFriend has weird arms
13:53	Krock	damn, guys!close the brackets!
13:53	Krock	)
13:53	LemonLake	unless ASCIIFriend's torso is a wineglass
13:54	realtinymonster	LemonLake: lol
13:54	LemonLake	or if they're really big tits
13:54	markveidemanis	(())((())))(()))()()((()(((((())))
13:54	markveidemanis	sorry Krock
13:54	LemonLake	^ = lisp
13:54	Krock	))
13:54	kaeza	obligatory: http://xkcd.com/859/
13:54	Krock	kaeza, exactly.
13:55	Krock	same with slash, use backslash to make it even
13:55	Krock	\\\\
13:55	rubenwardy	markveidemanis, results in: ))((((
13:55	Krock	))))
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13:55	kaeza	:(){:\|:}:
13:55	realtinymonster	LemonLake: Asciifriend is puzzled by your remark
13:55	realtinymonster	0
13:55	realtinymonster	/Y\
13:55	realtinymonster	/ \
13:55	rubenwardy	four brackets need to be closed, two were closed without being opened.
13:56	PenguinDad	https://xkcd.com/224/
13:56	realtinymonster	https://xkcd.com/1010
13:57	markveidemanis	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2434&start=900#p143361
14:01	LemonLake	How can I compare the name of a table entry, i.e fields.infantry to a string i.e "infantry"?
14:02	realtinymonster	<>(>(><>(><>(>><(>(>(>(<><>(><(>)
14:02	Krock	markveidemanis, current creative inv. works perfectly
14:02	realtinymonster	solve THAT! ^
14:02	Krock	)))))))))))))))>>>>>>>>> solved.
14:02	kaeza	LemonLake, what are you trying to achieve
14:02	kaeza	+?
14:02	LemonLake	I have a definition of classes, and a formspec which has created buttons for each class
14:03	kaeza	ah
14:03	markveidemanis	Krock: mine doesn't
14:03	LemonLake	Now when I recieve fields from the player, I want to loop through the classes and then run the appropriate action
14:03	LemonLake	based on the input they gave
14:03	markveidemanis	Creative might but i cant to change
14:03	Krock	markveidemanis, change what? delete "creative" folder out of minetest_game-> removesit
14:04	markveidemanis	I did that
14:04	rubenwardy	for key, value in fields do key would be "infantry", value will be fields.infantry
14:04	kaeza	LemonLake, something like for k, v in pairs(fields) do if my_actions[k] then my_actions[k](args) end
14:04	markveidemanis	Creative changer works intil someone times out
14:04	rubenwardy	or do fields["infantry"]
14:04	Krock	markveidemanis, get unified inventory
14:04	rubenwardy	kaeza: inb4 XD
14:04	kaeza	:/
14:04	rubenwardy	for key, value in pairs(fields) do key would be "infantry", value will be fields.infantry
14:04	markveidemanis	No Krock
14:04	LemonLake	rubenwardy, kaeza: So fields["infantry"] == fields.infantry?
14:04	markveidemanis	I hate sounds
14:04	kaeza	yes
14:04	rubenwardy	yes, LemonLake
14:04	Krock	markveidemanis, edit them away?!
14:04	LemonLake	Oh wow.
14:04	LemonLake	TIL.
14:05	markveidemanis	It's too much
14:05	kaeza	LemonLake, but please reserve the t[k] syntax for dynamic items :)
14:05	LemonLake	Mhm
14:05	kaeza	like: local a = "foo" local b = t[k]
14:06	Krock	markveidemanis, just about 6 sounds
14:06	LemonLake	Also, if formspec is a string, does formspec.."more" work?
14:06	kaeza	yes
14:06	LemonLake	TIL again :P
14:06	rubenwardy	formspec + "more"
14:06	rubenwardy	oh
14:06	* rubenwardy	read "how does"
14:06	LemonLake	rubenwardy: I think that's in C-based languages
14:06	rubenwardy	like formspec + "more"
14:06	LemonLake	Yeah
14:06	kaeza	C++*
14:06	LemonLake	I know how to use .., but I didn't know you could append to it like that
14:06	* kaeza	pokes LemonLake with strcat
14:07	LemonLake	I didn't think you could because you can't with integers like i+=
14:07	rubenwardy	urgh
14:07	LemonLake	Wait, kaeza I think you got me wrong
14:07	LemonLake	I already have a string, and I want to append to it later on
14:08	Krock	LemonLake, give us (pseudo-)code
14:08	kaeza	I had a stupid lib around to add things like "a" * 4 = "aaaa" to Lua
14:08	LemonLake	like: string = "mystring"
14:08	LemonLake	string.."morestring"
14:08	Krock	string = string.."morestring"
14:08	LemonLake	crap, it's just the same as ints
14:08	LemonLake	ah well
14:08	LemonLake	thanks
14:09	Krock	hmm
14:09	Krock	Lua could be an amazing HTTP server plugin
14:09	Krock	gonna write one in C# haha.
14:10	kaeza	local user = ("Kr%c%s"):format(string.char(111, ("Fuck"):sub(3, 4))
14:10	kaeza	oops
14:10	kaeza	+)
14:10	LemonLake	Finally, if I have a table like classes["infantry"] and I loop through classes in pairs, would k = "infantry"?
14:11	Krock	user = "Krkcks"?
14:12	Krock	LemonLake, for pairs, yes
14:12	Krock	for ipairs, it would be v
14:13	kaeza	wat
14:14	kaeza	oh dear, so much to correct
14:17	kaeza	!pil
14:17	MinetestBot	someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Lua, please go to: http://lua.org/pil/
14:17	kaeza	have a nice day
14:17	markveidemanis	!pil MinetestBot
14:17	realtinymonster	kaeza: lol
14:17	markveidemanis	~pil
14:17	realtinymonster	!pil MinetestBot
14:17	MinetestBot	MinetestBot, someone thinks you need to brush up on or learn Lua, please go to: http://lua.org/pil/
14:18	realtinymonster	hehe
14:18	markveidemanis	~py print "hi"
14:18	markveidemanis	:(
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14:21	realtinymonster	Tux[Qyou]: Hi!
14:22	Jordach	lel, pushing FL Studio to the limits and not even getting more than 2% cpu used
14:22	LemonLake	love doing that
14:22	nman3600	lol
14:22	LemonLake	might go back to windows to compose some music for ace of picks after I've finished classes and tested with nman
14:23	nman3600	LemonLake kay! :-)
14:23	Tux[Qyou]	realtinymonster: hiii
14:23	nman3600	my skype's been silent lately :(
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14:23	LemonLake	haha
14:24	nman3600	my best friend hasn't spoken to me for weeks he moved to australia
14:24	nman3600	halp!!!!!!!!
14:24	realtinymonster	nman3600: who be you bbest frined?
14:24	kaeza	probably eaten by kangaroos
14:24	realtinymonster	lol
14:24	nman3600	kaeza lol
14:24	kaeza	<.<
14:25	LemonLake	Where are apps saved in linux?
14:25	markveidemanis	/usr/share
14:25	markveidemanis	somehwere
14:25	LemonLake	Thanks mate
14:25	Jordach	may have bought payday 2 ;P
14:26	LemonLake	its a great game
14:26	LemonLake	demanding on pc specs thoug
14:26	LemonLake	h
14:26	Jordach	bullshit
14:26	Jordach	i'm played Planetside 2 on my hardware fine
14:26	Jordach	i've*
14:26	LemonLake	That's good then
14:27	Jordach	LemonLake, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7551860/
14:29	Megaf	11:29:26: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: TheDoctor supplied wrong password,
14:30	Megaf	The Doctor needs to take some pill for memory
14:30	realtinymonster	lol
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14:30	realtinymonster	damn you peer!
14:30	LemonLake	Force reset
14:30	realtinymonster	ah
14:30	LemonLake	Machine hanged
14:30	Megaf	And after a memory pill
14:30	Megaf	11:29:36: ACTION[ServerThread]: TheDoctor joins game. List of players: roman TheDoctor
14:30	Megaf	Whoah!
14:31	markveidemanis	How do i disable something in Unified?
14:31	realtinymonster	peer needs to stop resetting connections
14:31	LemonLake	Where can I find the PulseAudio settings?
14:32	realtinymonster	LemonLake: Under Settings -> PulseAudio :P
14:32	LemonLake	Don't have any
14:32	sfan5	LemonLake: try $ pavucontrol
14:32	realtinymonster	what linux?
14:32	LemonLake	just got pavucontrol, maybe that'll help
14:33	realtinymonster	sfan5: lol its expensive
14:33	sfan5	wat?
14:33	realtinymonster	< sfan5> LemonLake: try $ pavucontrol
14:33	realtinymonster	expencive ^
14:33	LemonLake	I've got pavucontrol
14:33	sfan5	I might just /ignore you
14:34	MinetestBot	Can you please STFU before I mass ban you.
14:34	LemonLake	^?
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14:35	* sfan5	looks at Jordach
14:35	* Jordach	looks at sfan5
14:35	* sfan5	looks at Jordach
14:35	* Jordach	looks at PilzAdam
14:35	sfan5	I think I should add logging for that
14:37	realtinymonster	sounds like MinetestBot is getting a headache
14:37	realtinymonster	sorry MinetestBot!
14:37	* sfan5	meows at MinetestBot
14:37	markveidemanis	Unified is okay I guess
14:38	markveidemanis	How do I disable the bags page?
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14:52	markveidemanis	How do i make:
14:52	LemonLake	By jumping
14:52	markveidemanis	formspec = formspec .. "image_button["..(start_x + 0.6 * 0)..",9;.8,.8;ui_skip_backward_icon.png;start_list;]"
14:52	markveidemanis	A normal button
14:52	markveidemanis	no images
14:55	LemonLake	just button
14:55	LemonLake	not image_button
14:56	LemonLake	http://dev.minetest.net/formspec#button
14:57	markveidemanis	formspec = formspec .. "button["..(start_x + 0.6 * 0)..",9;.8,.8;<<<:start_list;]"
14:57	LemonLake	reading from irc is horrible, let me write it out for ya
14:57	LemonLake	why are you doing * 0?
14:59	markveidemanis	I hate the textures in unified inventory
14:59	LemonLake	unified_inventory.register_button
14:59	LemonLake	make a 16x16 texture called trans.png
14:59	LemonLake	that's fully transparent
14:59	LemonLake	actually don't
14:59	LemonLake	where is this code?
14:59	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/pastes/9239750/text
15:00	markveidemanis	internal.lua
15:00	LemonLake	that's in the creative list, yes?
15:00	markveidemanis	Near the top
15:01	LemonLake	http://pastebin.com/ushXLwX5
15:01	LemonLake	There you go
15:01	LemonLake	Bonus search button
15:03	markveidemanis	Thanks!
15:04	markveidemanis	Nope
15:04	markveidemanis	Doesn't work
15:04	LemonLake	Did you apply it correctly?
15:04	markveidemanis	I think so
15:04	LemonLake	What's the error?
15:05	markveidemanis	invalid button elements
15:05	LemonLake	Oh, I see
15:05	LemonLake	Hold on
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15:06	LemonLake	http://pastebin.com/7AJDV4Lt
15:06	LemonLake	Try that
15:06	LemonLake	Wait
15:06	LemonLake	Don't
15:06	LemonLake	:L
15:06	LemonLake	http://pastebin.com/sJVZWYhY That one SHOULD work
15:08	markveidemanis	No
15:08	markveidemanis	Same error
15:08	LemonLake	The error would have details.
15:08	LemonLake	What are said details?
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15:09	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/9239776
15:10	EvergreenTree	Good day everyone
15:10	EvergreenTree	:-)
15:11	realtinymonster	EvergreenTree: Good day!
15:11	LemonLake	Remove the semicolons at the end
15:12	LemonLake	Same ofr searchbox
15:13	markveidemanis	Thanks!
15:13	markveidemanis	Now the rest
15:13	LemonLake	But yeah, remove the image part
15:13	LemonLake	leave the button name where it is (stff like staff_list)
15:13	nman3600	AOOOHHHAHHHAOO
15:13	LemonLake	add a semicolon then the label you want
15:14	LemonLake	game_devs: Can you bind a new keyboard shortcut?
15:14	LemonLake	Or do you have to use commands?
15:17	markveidemanis	unified_inventory.register_button("craft", {
15:17	markveidemanis	type = "image",
15:17	markveidemanis	image = "ui_craft_icon.png",
15:17	markveidemanis	})
15:17		markveidemanis was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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15:17	LemonLake	Mark
15:17	markveidemanis	crap, thought that was 3 lines
15:17	LemonLake	Don't paste code in IRC
15:18	LemonLake	Even if it's just three lines
15:18	markveidemanis	I thought I selected less, sry
15:18	LemonLake	<LemonLake> Even if it's just three lines
15:18	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/9239802
15:18	markveidemanis	I meant less than 3
15:18	LemonLake	Okay now
15:18	markveidemanis	I can't figure this one out
15:18	LemonLake	Make a 16x16 image called trans.png
15:18	LemonLake	And, of course, make it fully transparent
15:18	LemonLake	Then in every register_button, just point it to said image
15:18	markveidemanis	Can it be 1x1?
15:19	markveidemanis	Hmm
15:19	markveidemanis	I want a label there
15:19	LemonLake	No because of how buttons work
15:19	markveidemanis	Text instead of an image
15:19	LemonLake	That would require changing the API
15:19	LemonLake	Why do you want to remove the images in the first place? What's the point?
15:19	markveidemanis	api.lua is not too long
15:19	markveidemanis	400KB is rediculous
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15:19	LemonLake	Just use smaller images, then?
15:19	LemonLake	You can just retexture them
15:20	LemonLake	And what's wrong with 400kb? That's nothing in this age.
15:20	LemonLake	What takes up most of that space is not the button images, but it's actually the formspec backgrounds.
15:20	markveidemanis	I don't like the backgrounds mainly
15:20	LemonLake	Don't bother with the images
15:20	markveidemanis	I guess images on buttons can stay
15:21	LemonLake	All of the bags images combined are 47.4KB
15:21	LemonLake	Scale down the button images to 16x16, though
15:21	LemonLake	Want me to do that for you?
15:22	LemonLake	Craftguide takes up 13kb in itself :o
15:22	markveidemanis	Erm...
15:22	markveidemanis	The background
15:23	LemonLake	?
15:23	markveidemanis	Not even the classic inventory
15:23	LemonLake	...?
15:24	LemonLake	if you don't like the size of Unified inventory,w hy not just get a different mod?
15:24	markveidemanis	It's the only one
15:25	realtinymonster	Woot!
15:25	LemonLake	markveidemanis: If you don't like the backgrounds, just either remove them and re-enable the list colors in the mod
15:25	Krock	markveidemanis, zcg
15:25	LemonLake	Or retexture them to be basic
15:26	LemonLake	And zcg, like Krock said, is working
15:26	LemonLake	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5564
15:26	markveidemanis	re-enable list colours?
15:27	LemonLake	Just get zcg
15:27	markveidemanis	Nah
15:27	LemonLake	Why?
15:27	markveidemanis	I like the waypoints thing
15:27	LemonLake	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8021
15:28	markveidemanis	I mean the distance and stuff
15:28	LemonLake	The waypoints thing, believe it or not, is super easy to make in core minetest
15:28	LemonLake	It's a hud element
15:28	LemonLake	http://dev.minetest.net/HUD
15:28	LemonLake	Scroll down to find waypoint
15:30	markveidemanis	Hm
15:30	markveidemanis	I like this mod though
15:30	markveidemanis	How Would I re-enable the classic inventory inside the crafting?
15:31	LemonLake	Have You Tried Googling?
15:33	markveidemanis	Where's the main inventory defined?
15:33	nman3600	LemonLake did u mute yourself
15:33	nman3600	?
15:33	LemonLake	Oh, yes I did
15:34	LemonLake	markveidemanis: in minetest_next, it's in player.lua
15:34	markveidemanis	Oh
15:34	markveidemanis	player:set_inventory_formspec(gui_suvival_form)
15:34	markveidemanis	No fancy elements
15:35	markveidemanis	Hmm...
15:35	LemonLake	look for gui_survival_form?
15:35	LemonLake	logic?
15:35	nman3600	DAHAHGHAA
15:35	realtinymonster	Woot! MC version of Gitpack is up-to-date!
15:35	LemonLake	woohoo
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15:36	Jordach	nobody gives a shit about gitpack
15:37	realtinymonster	Jordach: nobody gives a shit about BFD
15:37	nman3600	LOL
15:37	realtinymonster	lol
15:37	Jordach	realtinymonster, just wait for ChainLynx ;)
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15:41	realtinymonster	hmmm
15:43	Jordach	realtinymonster, #minecraft has a no spamming rule
15:43	Jordach	which i WILL ENFORCE HERE
15:43	realtinymonster	hmm?
15:43	realtinymonster	I spam?
15:43	realtinymonster	when?
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15:46	Jordach	[16:41:46] <realtinymonster> https://github.com/realtinymonster/gitpack-minecraft#
15:46	realtinymonster	^ that is not spam
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15:47	markveidemanis	I agree, not spam
15:49	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/9239876
15:50	markveidemanis	I need to remove the background but that removes the whole formspec
15:50	LemonLake	ace_of_picks is doing really well
15:50	LemonLake	we now have classes, three gun types and they work pretty balanced
15:50	markveidemanis	How do I have that nice classic inventory in place of that mess?
15:50	LemonLake	I turned down the bullet range so yous upposedly can't shoot through ceilings now
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16:07	realtinymonster	markveidemanis: you are on the forum!
16:07	markveidemanis	Yep
16:07	realtinymonster	LemonLake: you are too!
16:08	realtinymonster	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9396
16:08	markveidemanis	I can't announce to serverlist
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16:16	nman3600	name ideas for my texture pack?
16:17		zat joined #minetest
16:19	realtinymonster	nman3600: what kind of TP, what stylee, what size?
16:19	markveidemanis	Of all that could go wrong
16:19	markveidemanis	it had to be DNS
16:19	nman3600	i'll send you some screenshots
16:19	Megaf	markveidemanis; bind address set to 0.0.0.0?
16:19	markveidemanis	nope
16:19	Megaf	comment the server address
16:20	Megaf	do comment
16:20	markveidemanis	Bastards dropped my fucking domain
16:20	Megaf	is curl enabled?
16:20	realtinymonster	markveidemanis: what!
16:20	realtinymonster	yeah, they do that
16:20	markveidemanis	Bastards...
16:20	markveidemanis	dot.tk
16:20	Megaf	never trust free things
16:20	markveidemanis	Dot TK allows you to register an unlimited number of FREE domains and an unlimited number of PAID domain names.
16:20	Megaf	neither paid things
16:20	markveidemanis	BULLSHIT
16:20	nman3600	realtinymonster: http://imgur.com/MQ6nULl http://imgur.com/ppM3nnk
16:20	sfan5	Dot TK is bad!
16:20	LemonLake	^
16:21	LemonLake	sfan5 said it right, set it fair and square
16:21	markveidemanis	so what do i do now...
16:21	realtinymonster	sfan5: Dot COM is worse
16:21	sfan5	wut
16:21	nman3600	fair ans square! why can't it be fair and circle!
16:21	* markveidemanis	uses backup atomicon.tk
16:21	LemonLake	Mark, look at things like dyndns, duckdns, etc
16:21	LemonLake	they're free and work like a charm
16:21	sfan5	yay for duckdns!
16:21	markveidemanis	freedns
16:22	realtinymonster	duckdns?
16:22	nman3600	DUCKdns!
16:22	LemonLake	freedns looks cheap
16:22	realtinymonster	sounds quacky
16:22	realtinymonster	:P
16:22	markveidemanis	Literally gone from the domain panel....
16:22	LemonLake	duckdns I know for a fact is good
16:22	LemonLake	dyndns is aight
16:22	nman3600	realtinymonster any name ideas?
16:22	realtinymonster	markveidemanis: you didn't read the fine print?
16:22	sfan5	dyndns is hit
16:22	sfan5	shit*
16:22	LemonLake	I used it a few years ago, not a great fan
16:22	sfan5	they want you to pay money now
16:22	realtinymonster	nman3600: use http://mediacru.sh
16:22	sfan5	they recent changed it
16:22	LemonLake	sfan5 uses duckdns
16:22	sfan5	yes I do!
16:23	LemonLake	http://sfan5.duckdns.org/
16:23	* Megaf	uses name.com
16:23	LemonLake	he stores files and shit
16:23	LemonLake	and http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
16:23	sfan5	I also had sfan5.dyndns.org but they wanted money and I did not want to give them money for stuff I can get for free elsewhere
16:23	Jordach	quack
16:23	* sfan5	updates the irc stat
16:23	* sfan5	meows at Jordach
16:23	nman3600	realtinymonster https://mediacru.sh/SrknFHHL2Ofx https://mediacru.sh/fCnlyJQW3CEi
16:23	markveidemanis	Okay works now
16:23	LemonLake	8people5175LemonLake
16:23	LemonLake	love it
16:24	LemonLake	24Ragnar43251348217680158 days ago""I knew it! I fucking knew it!" ~ Bob Dyrdek"
16:24	LemonLake	Hmm sfan5, maybe you can have some sort of cron job running for the stats?
16:25	LemonLake	Update them every hour?
16:25	sfan5	LemonLake: nah
16:25	realtinymonster	nman3600: looks good!
16:25	sfan5	I can do it manually
16:25	nman3600	realtinymonster name ideas?
16:25	realtinymonster	nman3600: SnazzyTest?
16:25	realtinymonster	:P
16:25	LemonLake	sfan5, do you reckon that if I were to make a stylesheet for http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/, they'd use it?
16:26	nman3600	realtinymonster maybe
16:26	sfan5	LemonLake: maybe
16:26	* Jordach	meows at sfan5
16:26	Jordach	"Jordach always lets us know what he/she's doing: 2198 actions!"
16:26	* realtinymonster	eats a cucumber
16:26	LemonLake	How would you guys like some sort of global bans mod?
16:26	* sfan5	meows at Jordach
16:27	LemonLake	Similar to mcbans
16:27	sfan5	IRC stats updated! ***
16:27	nman3600	realtinymonster maybe RPGcraft or RPGtest
16:27	nman3600	which one do you prefer
16:28	realtinymonster	latter
16:28	LemonLake	I have two random quotes <3
16:28	sfan5	ahaha
16:28	sfan5	Jordach is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 45 times.
16:28	sfan5	For example, like this:
16:28	sfan5	* Jordach slaps sfan5
16:28	realtinymonster	LemonLake: it would be a bad idea
16:28	sfan5	Poor Jordach, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 32 times.
16:28	sfan5	For example, like this:
16:28	sfan5	* sfan5 slaps Jordach
16:28	realtinymonster	lol
16:28	LemonLake	Being on this IRC for (over) a week and already over 2k lines
16:28	sfan5	18th most used word: Windows
16:29	LemonLake	Lol
16:29	LemonLake	sfan5 vs jordach
16:30	LemonLake	Is Miner_48er stupid or just asking too many questions? 43.0% lines contained a question!
16:30	LemonLake	artur99 didn't know that much either. 41.4% of his/her lines were questions.
16:31	realtinymonster	is this a questiom?
16:31	realtinymonster	lol?
16:32	LemonLake	Does minetest support music?
16:32	LemonLake	Or should I just play a sound?
16:32	realtinymonster	just p[lay a sound
16:32	LemonLake	kk
16:32	LemonLake	Off to windows to make some sounds, then!
16:33	* sfan5	throws sfxr at LemonLake
16:35	* Jordach	slaps sfan5
16:35	* sfan5	meows at Jordach
16:35	Jordach	2200th /me command used
16:36	realtinymonster	Jordach: now you only need 22 more :P
16:36	Jordach	that won't take long
16:36	* sfan5	purrs :3
16:37	Jordach	dayum i'm active in the late hours
16:37	whiskers75	sfan5: meow
16:38	Jordach	it's basically me vs VanessaE
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16:38	LemonLake_	windows is sooo slooow
16:38	sfan5	^
16:38	Jordach	horseshit
16:38	Jordach	BULLSHIT
16:38	Jordach	why would i be using it then
16:39	LemonLake_	It used to be supa fast
16:39	LemonLake_	Until I got linux
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16:39	* sfan5	meows at LemonLake_
16:39	LemonLake_	sfan5; I'm gonna look into ways of automating stuff like the IRC stats, just to learn, not intruding or anything ^.^
16:39	* whiskers75	hissses at Windows
16:39	whiskers75	LemonLake_: crontab -e
16:39	LemonLake_	whiskers75: I know how to do shit like that
16:40	* sfan5	just did an google image search for "sfan5"
16:40	sfan5	very interesting
16:42	whiskers75	sfan5: lol
16:42	sfan5	oh god
16:42	LemonLake_	Can I get a full log from ilbot?
16:42	sfan5	before I disabled changing nick to sfan5\|OFF I was even in the crosstool-ng irc logs
16:42	LemonLake_	Not just for one day, but like the ENTIRE log?
16:43	realtinymonster	john_minetest: lies! its deathly slow from the beginning
16:43	whiskers75	!btc
16:43	MinetestBot	1 BTC = 610.0000 $
16:44	realtinymonster	:O
16:44	realtinymonster	That be inflation in my boot!
16:44	realtinymonster	*thar
16:44	LemonLake_	Windows startup time before Linux: 2 minutes
16:44	LemonLake_	Linux startup time: 12 seconds
16:44	sfan5	!btc EUR
16:44	MinetestBot	1 BTC = 447.8500 â‚¬
16:44	LemonLake_	Windows startup time after Linux: 19 minutes
16:44	LemonLake_	I do not kid
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16:48	kaeza	!btc UYU
16:48	MinetestBot	kaeza: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: ISK, USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, TWD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD
16:48	kaeza	:(
16:49	Krock	!btc CHF
16:49	MinetestBot	1 BTC = 546.2900 CHF
16:49	kaeza	!c EUR in UYU
16:49	MinetestBot	NameError: name 'EUR' is not defined
16:49	kaeza	..
16:50	kaeza	MinetestBot!
16:50	MinetestBot	kaeza!
16:50	Krock	~give kaeza !help
16:50	ShadowBot	kaeza: <!help>
16:51	kaeza	for the record anyway, 1 EUR == 31.4264658 Uruguayan pesos
16:51	kaeza	didn't MinetestBot have some kind of unit converter?
16:52	realtinymonster	~give MinetestBot alcohol
16:52	ShadowBot	MinetestBot: <alcohol>
16:52	realtinymonster	lol
17:00	Megaf	~give MinetestBot !up minetest.megaf.info
17:00	ShadowBot	MinetestBot: <!up minetest.megaf.info>
17:01	LemonLake_	I think it does it over a quer
17:01	LemonLake_	y
17:03	MinetestBot	1 BTC = 614.3800 $
17:03	realtinymonster	!shilling
17:03	realtinymonster	!btc btc
17:03	MinetestBot	realtinymonster: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: ISK, USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, TWD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD
17:03	realtinymonster	!btc dkk
17:03	MinetestBot	1 BTC = 3365.8700 kr
17:03	realtinymonster	Woo hoo Donkey Kong!
17:03	realtinymonster	lol
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17:04	realtinymonster	!btc eur
17:04	MinetestBot	1 BTC = 451.0700 â‚¬
17:04	Krock	<MinetestBot>1 BTC = 447.8500 â‚¬
17:04	Krock	uh it raised
17:04	realtinymonster	yeap
17:04	realtinymonster	!btc eur
17:04	MinetestBot	1 BTC = 451.0700 â‚¬
17:05	realtinymonster	:(
17:05	Krock	wait 5 minutes and retry
17:05	realtinymonster	damn
17:05	realtinymonster	you beat me to it
17:05	realtinymonster	i was gonna say that
17:05	Krock	ninja'd
17:05	kaeza	it was ~570USD a few mins ago
17:05	Krock	USD < EUR
17:06	kaeza	...
17:06	realtinymonster	!btc huf
17:06	MinetestBot	realtinymonster: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: ISK, USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, TWD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD
17:06	realtinymonster	srsly?
17:06	Krock	too lazy to calculate if '~570USD' are more than 451.0700 â‚¬
17:07	realtinymonster	sfan5: add HUF!
17:07	Krock	wut's huf?
17:07	kaeza	or remove !btc :)
17:07	realtinymonster	http://google.com/search?q=HUF Krock
17:07	Krock	"Huf" is german and is the shoe of a horse.. ehm hoof!
17:07	realtinymonster	:P
17:08	Krock	"Ergebnisse fÃ¼r
17:08	Krock	Huf
17:08	Krock	Huf
17:08	Krock	Der Huf ist ein Horngebilde, das bei Unpaarhufern das Zehenendglied .."
17:08	Krock	damn
17:08		Krock was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
17:08	kaeza	lel
17:08	realtinymonster	lol
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17:08	realtinymonster	aHA!
17:09	Krock	I thought it removes \n
17:09	realtinymonster	lol
17:09	realtinymonster	nope
17:10	LemonLake_	Are the devs ever gonna make it so that you can hide nametags of players from other players?
17:10	Krock	nope.
17:11	LemonLake_	Why, and proof
17:11	LemonLake_	?
17:11	NakedFury	proof: they didnt make it the second they added the tags
17:11	sfan5	realtinymonster: I can't just add currencies
17:11	NakedFury	all the proof you need
17:11	sfan5	I use an api
17:11	* sfan5	meows at LemonLake_
17:11	LemonLake_	sfan5?
17:12	LemonLake_	will you be able to make said feature? <3
17:12	realtinymonster	LemonLake_: gah!
17:12	realtinymonster	I wish
17:12	realtinymonster	upon a dish
17:12	realtinymonster	with fish
17:12	LemonLake_	I wish upon a fish
17:12	realtinymonster	ninja'd
17:13	LemonLake_	sfan5?
17:13	kaeza	hiding nametags requires the server to calculate what the player can and can't see (not a particularly trivial task, especially in Minetest), and only send to clients that, otherwise it's useless
17:14	sfan5	LemonLake_: which feature?
17:14	sfan5	ah
17:14	LemonLake_	no, kaeza
17:14	LemonLake_	A feature so that you can decide whether or not a player can see another's nametag
17:14	LemonLake_	like player:set_can_see_nametag(target)
17:15	realtinymonster	LemonLake_: would be an array?
17:15	kaeza	LemonLake_, Minetest is open source, and players can easily change that
17:15	sfan5	^ good idea, open an issue on github
17:15	LemonLake_	okay
17:15	LemonLake_	I would code it if I understood the codebase, reckon it will be actually done?
17:15	kaeza	meh, it's pointless
17:16	LemonLake_	It's useful in games, it's useful in servers
17:16	* kaeza	goes back to coding more firearms features
17:16	LemonLake_	It's useful in a lot of places
17:16	* sfan5	meows at kaeza
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17:16	realtinymonster	youdontknowme: I actually do
17:16	realtinymonster	lol
17:16	kaeza	LemonLake_, what is the point in telling the client "don't look at me!!! I'm hiding!!"
17:16	kaeza	+?
17:17	LemonLake_	My use for it would be in my gamemode
17:17	LemonLake_	Only make teammate's names visible, so you can't see enemy nametags
17:17	LemonLake_	prevents cheating
17:17	kaeza	lol okay
17:17	LemonLake_	In servers, you can hide it by distance on extremely popular servers
17:17	LemonLake_	Also for things like hide and seek
17:17	NakedFury	you made the point. im hiding I dont want the players to know where
17:17	LemonLake_	Invisibility
17:17	LemonLake_	Many uses ^.^
17:17	realtinymonster	to an extent
17:18	kaeza	as long as the player positions are broadcast to all clients, clients can cheat by reverting the feature (see also the "no building inside your head" commit)
17:19	LemonLake_	Well that's their problem?
17:19	kaeza	okay
17:19	sfan5	kaeza: you could disable sending the player pos on the server via lua
17:21	LemonLake_	Okay, posted #1345
17:21	LemonLake_	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1345
17:21	kaeza	more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating_in_online_games#Wallhacking
17:21	realtinymonster	lol
17:21	realtinymonster	kaeza: i think we all know about Wallhacking
17:22	LemonLake_	Did somebody add the labels or were they added automatically?
17:22	kaeza	MESE Aliens did it
17:22	LemonLake_	Ah, sfan5 did it, thanks
17:22	LemonLake_	was wondering how to do that in the new github layout :P
17:23	LemonLake_	Anyway, back to linux, brrrrb
17:23	realtinymonster	*Mese
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17:26	realtinymonster	Hi ~lemonlakehost86-174-39-174.range86-174.btcentralplus.com
17:27	LemonLake	Hi ~zsoltisaw50708181.static.ziggozakelijk.nl
17:27	realtinymonster	LemonLake: did you see gitpack?
17:27	realtinymonster	lol
17:27	LemonLake	Yes
17:28	realtinymonster	what do you think?
17:28	Calinou	5 unread comment notifications on reddit \o/ new top
17:28	LemonLake	It's aight
17:28	Calinou	4, actually
17:28	LemonLake	Calinou: I'd be lucky to get just one
17:29	realtinymonster	what the hell is reddit about, anyway?
17:29	LemonLake	Similar to forums.
17:29	LemonLake	But cooler.
17:29	realtinymonster	sounds fun
17:29	Calinou	it's a bank: you post hype stuff and gain karma, and spend it saying the truth or hate comments
17:29	* Calinou	runs
17:30	* LemonLake	saw that
17:30	realtinymonster	LemonLake: I think you scared off my employee :P
17:30	LemonLake	Trust me he'd be no good either way
17:31	realtinymonster	yeah
17:32	realtinymonster	Woot!
17:32	realtinymonster	\0/
17:32	realtinymonster	X
17:32	realtinymonster	/ \
17:32	LemonLake	ASCIIFriend has a fucked up body
17:32	realtinymonster	why?
17:32	LemonLake	idk
17:32	realtinymonster	lol
17:32	LemonLake	it looks like a starfish
17:33	realtinymonster	XD
17:33	realtinymonster	how about this:
17:33	realtinymonster	\0/
17:33	realtinymonster	O
17:33	realtinymonster	/ \
17:33	LemonLake	better
17:34	realtinymonster	\0/
17:34	realtinymonster	A
17:34	realtinymonster	/ \
17:34	realtinymonster	^that?
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17:34	LemonLake	eiffel tower
17:34	realtinymonster	lol
17:34	nman3600	hai
17:34	Calinou	/)(^Îµ^)(\
17:34	* realtinymonster	runs after Calinou
17:35	realtinymonster	Taking a nap: \_\_o
17:35	LemonLake	that guy naps weird
17:36	realtinymonster	i guess he like his feet to the sky :P
17:36	nman3600	Flipping a table: (â•¯Â°â–¡Â°)â•¯ï¸µ â”»â”â”»
17:37	nman3600	2 people killed a 1 year old girl HOW CRUEL IS THIS WORLD
17:37	LemonLake	it's called a late abortion
17:37	nman3600	lol
17:37	realtinymonster	\ /
17:37	realtinymonster	O O
17:37	realtinymonster	/ \
17:37	LemonLake	not funny nman
17:37	LemonLake	its a sputnik, realtinymonster
17:37	realtinymonster	cartwheel
17:38	realtinymonster	lol
17:38	realtinymonster	v u
17:38	realtinymonster	/l\
17:38	realtinymonster	/ \
17:38	realtinymonster	erm
17:38	realtinymonster	derp
17:38	realtinymonster	u
17:38	realtinymonster	/l\
17:38	realtinymonster	/ \
17:40	nman3600	(â•¯Â°â–¡Â°)â•¯ï¸µ â”»â”â”»
17:40	nman3600	Koala bear!: Ê• â€¢á´¥â€¢Ê”
17:41	Calinou	don't spam here
17:41	Calinou	spam in ##minetestbot
17:41	Calinou	or create your own spam channel
17:42	nman3600	join #emoji for emoticon fun
17:42	realtinymonster	##asciiart
17:42	nman3600	i've already made on
17:42	nman3600	e
17:42	realtinymonster	what?
17:43	nman3600	#emoji has chanserv
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17:43	nman3600	well will
17:43	nman3600	and all sort's of things
17:43	LemonLake	not worth having chanserv
17:43	LemonLake	no point actually
17:43	LemonLake	im just trolling you
17:43	realtinymonster	ChanServ is a butt
17:43	realtinymonster	it doens't leave
17:43	LemonLake	ChanServ is a service
17:44	LemonLake	@ChanServ is a bot that you can disable
17:44	LemonLake	It doesn't leave for a good reason
17:44	realtinymonster	I have tried to kick it and ban it, but it don't liektrhat
17:44	LemonLake	Channel lock
17:45	realtinymonster	they should have something like /cs invisible
17:45	LemonLake	That's quite difficult to do on an IRC server
17:45	realtinymonster	tha sucks
17:45	nman3600	maybe /hide (username)
17:45	LemonLake	IRC is really old
17:45	nman3600	so you're hidden from the chat
17:45	LemonLake	nope
17:45	LemonLake	you'd still receive connections
17:47	realtinymonster	IE is being stupid
17:50	Krock	!EkalNomel
17:50	Krock	LemonLake!
17:50	LemonLake	?
17:50	Krock	EkalNomel: http://i.imgur.com/l4UNYWE.png
17:50	LemonLake	wtf is up with your leaves
17:50	Krock	crossed
17:50	* sfan5	meows at LemonLake
17:51	Krock	like X.X
17:51	LemonLake	k
17:51	LemonLake	they look weird
17:51	Krock	k they speed up my FPS
17:51	Calinou	does anyone know URL to the mod which added health bars above players?
17:51	Calinou	I'm looking into it for inclusion into Carbone :)
17:52	Calinou	couldn't search it via forum search and search engine :(
17:55	BrandonReese	it was called gauges
17:55	BrandonReese	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88808
17:56	Calinou	thanks a lot BrandonReese :)
18:00	markveidemanis	I corrupt my fucking world
18:00	markveidemanis	Now I'm gonna use leveldb
18:00	markveidemanis	will it stop that happening again?
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18:03	Calinou	today I learned the hard way semi-transparency isn't supported in sprites
18:03	Calinou	markveidemanis, not necessarilyâ€¦
18:03	Calinou	I never corrupted a world, personally
18:03	Calinou	don't access it from several sources at the same time!
18:03	sfan5	Calinou: IIRC you can use something like use_texture_alpha = true, to make it use the alpha
18:04	sfan5	but maybe that is only for textures
18:05	Krock	markveidemanis, leveldb is btter in much castes - but not all
18:05	Krock	*cases
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18:05	markveidemanis	I'l migrate it
18:09	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/pastes/9240249/text
18:13	markveidemanis	disabling LevelDB fixes it
18:13	markveidemanis	but i want leveldb
18:13	kaeza	Jordach, https://github.com/kaeza/mt-firearms/commit/877336350717abd66b3d7cef0120e29ce95a7195
18:14	sfan5	markveidemanis: try updating gcc
18:14	sfan5	or using clang
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18:17	markveidemanis	apt-get upgrade?
18:17	markveidemanis	I'l try update too
18:17	sfan5	first update then upgrade
18:18	Megaf	And Pi is back!
18:18	Megaf	!up minetest.megaf.info 30001
18:18	MinetestBot	minetest.megaf.info:30001 is up (488ms)
18:18	LemonLake	sfan5: I've got some response to #1345
18:19	LemonLake	A few devs like the idea, now we just need someone to code it
18:19	Megaf	And this is the minetest server welcome message "15:17:18: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(4/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 2 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)"
18:19	LemonLake	Megaf
18:19	LemonLake	people get those in isingleplayer too
18:19	LemonLake	don't worry about them, it's normal
18:19	Calinou	how can I make wieldview items thicker?
18:19	sfan5	More possible uses: /vanish command for server administrators;
18:19	sfan5	yes
18:19	sfan5	yes
18:19	sfan5	YES YES YES
18:19	Megaf	I'm not worried, it's just a welcome message, don't you get it?
18:19	LemonLake	YES
18:20	sfan5	yES!
18:20	LemonLake	sfan5, if you could pass this onto some of the other devs I'd be grateful
18:20	Calinou	sfan5, I'm saying that as an example, but I don't really condone it
18:20	Calinou	(privacy issues)
18:20	sfan5	LemonLake: enough people will see this
18:20	LemonLake	Okay :D
18:20	LemonLake	Sorry, I'm just really in need of this feature
18:21	realtinymonster	LemonLake: numnumnum
18:21	Krock	sfan5, is that a feature: Map saving causes lag over ~15s
18:21	sfan5	yes
18:21	sfan5	dunno
18:22	sfan5	ask other ppl
18:22	Krock	k
18:22	kaeza	while at it, how about player:setfov()? :^)
18:22	LemonLake	yeah, what happened to that?
18:23	markveidemanis	I ran them the wrong way round...
18:26	kaeza	oh here it is https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1075
18:31	realtinymonster	LemonLake: /query realtinymonster
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18:35	ShadowNinja	infostream<<"ServerEnv: WARNING: Performing hack #83274" <-- Where do the numbers come from? ;-)
18:35	Exio4	Megaf: do you have any desktop?
18:36	Exio4	i saw that code before!
18:36	Megaf	Exio4: Yes I do
18:36	Megaf	why?
18:36	Exio4	Megaf: why are you not using distcc for compiling stuff in the rpi?
18:37	* nman3600	is working hard on a TP
18:37	Megaf	Didnt heard of it
18:37	Megaf	how does it work?
18:37	Exio4	distcc is basically having multiples computers compile an app
18:37	LemonLake	^^
18:37	Exio4	you know, like -j16 would be between 16 jobs
18:37	Exio4	you could send jobs to other computer, basically
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18:42	markveidemanis	nman3600,
18:42	nman3600	yes markveidemanis?
18:42	markveidemanis	Server map got completely corrupt
18:42	LemonLake	^
18:42	nman3600	oh god
18:42	markveidemanis	All fucked
18:42	LemonLake	Because mark used the wrong dp
18:42	markveidemanis	I made a backup though
18:42	LemonLake	db*
18:42	markveidemanis	no
18:42	PenguinDad	What happened to InchraNet?
18:42	markveidemanis	Well, partially
18:42	LemonLake	PenguinDad: It's up.
18:43	LemonLake	Connect with digitalaudioconcepts.com
18:45	markveidemanis	This will take ages
18:46	markveidemanis	5%
18:46	Calinou	added health bars in Carbone!
18:46	Calinou	they look pretty.
18:47	markveidemanis	fuck
18:47	markveidemanis	14:46:28: ACTION[main]: Migrated 21500 blocks 10.492% completed
18:47	markveidemanis	Segmentation fault
18:48	sfan5	markveidemanis: recompile a debug build, run with gdb --args <the command you ran now>
18:48	Calinou	LevelDB is not proven to be faster or better, but the practical upsides are: worlds of more than 4 GB are supported and you can access it from several sources without corruption.
18:48	Calinou	it may actually feel slower.
18:48	sfan5	when it crashes to "bt full"
18:48	Calinou	(for me, it clearly does)
18:49	Calinou	I've successfully mapped (using minetestmapper-numpy) both sqlite and leveldb worlds
18:50	markveidemanis	I'l download the world and see if I can make it work
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18:54	ShadowNinja	Calinou: SQLite3 should work with worlds that are much larger than 4GB. It's maximum is in the terabyte range IIRC.
18:54	Calinou	I heard it was broken above 4 GB
18:54	* sfan5	did too
18:54	Calinou	(i didn't test a world)
18:54	Calinou	my worlds are 50MB at most :P
18:55	ShadowNinja	I've heard so too, but I've also heard that missing disk space caused that once.
18:55	EvergreenTree	Calinou: Yeah, I don't really do a lot of survival in minetest
18:55	EvergreenTree	mostly dev'ing
18:55	ShadowNinja	I have yet to see sufficient proof that SQLite3 corrupts maps.
18:56	Krock	^
18:56	ShadowNinja	And I doubt we're the only ones using SQLite3 for large storage.
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19:00	Guy09	Hi guys I'm back :)
19:00	Krock	Lowest found: "Highest possible file size" in the FAT16 format: 2GiB
19:00	Guy09	hold on let me try something...
19:00	Guy09	=)
19:00	Krock	no
19:00	Krock	you don't
19:00	Krock	stop
19:01	Guy09	oh don't work :3
19:02	Guy09	Err...
19:02	Guy09	Wat the
19:02	Calinou	Krock, FAT32 is 4GB
19:02	Calinou	NTFS, ext2/3/4, btrfsâ€¦ are all huge
19:02	Krock	GrÃ¶ÃŸe einer Datei 2 GiB / 4 GiB
19:02	Calinou	no one really uses FAT16 today, but some people still use FAT32 (most notably external HDDs and USB drives, for compatibility)
19:02	Guy09	Why is everyone so QUIET
19:02	Krock	both.
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19:02	Calinou	this channel is generally quite active
19:03	EvergreenTree	Guy09: how is this channel quiet?
19:03	Krock	Guy09, NEED SOME NOISE? THERE YOU GO!!
19:03	EvergreenTree	it's very active atm
19:03	kaeza	Guy09, wrong network
19:03	PenguinDad	I'M NOT QUIET ANYMORE!!1!
19:03	Guy09	It's just that no one talkin :3
19:03	* sfan5	meows at Guy09
19:04	kaeza	PARTAY!
19:04	LemonLake	WEOOOWEOEWO
19:04	* Guy09	gives sfan5 milk
19:04	* sfan5	noms the milk
19:04	PenguinDad	GOOD IDEA kaeza!
19:04	* Guy09	listens to Sexy and I know it by LMFAO
19:05	* Guy09	starts singin to it
19:05	Guy09	When i walk on bye girls be having like amplifi
19:06	markveidemanis	Migrating locally now
19:06	markveidemanis	so much faster
19:06	markveidemanis	Access violation
19:06	Guy09	i walk to to beat walking on the street and know the freak
19:06	Calinou	much faster access violations
19:06	LemonLake	Guy09
19:07	LemonLake	Wrong lyrics
19:07	Guy09	yeah girl look at that body
19:07	markveidemanis	in trans_func
19:07	LemonLake	"When I walk on by, girls be looking like damn he fly"
19:07	Guy09	* ahh *
19:07	* PenguinDad	listens to 20 Percent Cooler by Ken Ashcorp and doesn't start singing it
19:07	LemonLake	"I pimp to the beat, walking on the street in my new lafreak, yeah"
19:07	Guy09	girl look at that..
19:07	* LemonLake	listens to Absolute Territory by Ken Ashcorp and sings to it really loud
19:07	* Guy09	*s mum shouts SHUT UP
19:08	LemonLake	PenguinDad: You're a kashcorp fan too?
19:08	Guy09	This is how i roll
19:09	PenguinDad	Savant! \o/
19:10	PenguinDad	LemonLake: I actually found that song on youtube a few minutes ago
19:10	LemonLake	20 Percent Cooler is aight
19:10	LemonLake	I prefer his other songs though
19:10	LemonLake	20% cooler is too electro for ken
19:10	* Guy09	runs to a girls school and takes his top and trousers off and then shouts while all the girls r in there I'M SEXY AND I KNOW IT!!!
19:11	* LemonLake	thinks Guy09 is slightly weird
19:11	* PenguinDad	gives Guy09 his pills
19:11	Calinou	please don't sing in here
19:12	Calinou	especially sexist stuff
19:12	LemonLake	sexIST?
19:12	Calinou	or sing â€œoppa Minetest styleâ€, like suggested by Jordach
19:12	LemonLake	It's not discriminating based on gender
19:12	Guy09	Yeah u can tell everybody yeah u can tell everybodyyy go ahead and tell everybody I'm a man I'm a man I'm a maan
19:12	Jordach	wait WUT
19:12	Krock	OPPA MINEGAM TEST STAYLE
19:12	Guy09	Lol
19:12	Calinou	I'll say â€œdegradingâ€ then, LemonLake
19:13	LemonLake	that works
19:13	LemonLake	I need to make textures...
19:13	LemonLake	but i cbf to go back to windows
19:13	LemonLake	Who suggested Petra yesterday?
19:14	Calinou	GIMP does textures well for me
19:14	LemonLake	I can't stand gimp imo
19:14	Calinou	or try Aseprite (I've never used it)
19:14	LemonLake	it's unusable
19:14	Calinou	the health bar textures added in Carbone were made with GIMP, as well as a few other ones ;)
19:14	Calinou	(brick, burned clayâ€¦)
19:14	LemonLake	Pinta
19:14	LemonLake	not petra
19:14	Calinou	not me
19:14	Calinou	I've never used Pinta/Krita
19:14	* Guy09	throws penguin dad's pills in the bin sets them on fire throws then at penguins house then says to him i don't then!
19:14	Calinou	I do use Inkscape, but not for Minetest textures :p
19:14	realtinymonster	:(
19:15	realtinymonster	I can't find a decent python IRCd
19:15	LemonLake	Why do you need one?
19:15	Guy09	XD
19:15	Calinou	for bots, of course
19:15	Calinou	they'reâ€¦ funny!
19:15	LemonLake	fyi bots aren't allowed here
19:15	realtinymonster	LemonLake: no shit
19:15	Calinou	LemonLake, if allowed only
19:15	Calinou	we already have MinetestBot which is pretty functional
19:16	Guy09	Woah language realtiny
19:16	Amaz	And loggingbot_
19:16	LemonLake	Guy09
19:16	LemonLake	This is a mature channel, we can use what language we want
19:16	Amaz	And ShadowBot
19:16	PenguinDad	And ChanServ
19:16	realtinymonster	and whiskers75's bot
19:16	Amaz	And ChanServ is really a bot.
19:16	LemonLake	ChanServ is part of Freenode
19:16	Amaz	Ninja'd!
19:17	LemonLake	(/msg chanserv register #minetest)
19:17	Amaz	But it is a bot...
19:17	LemonLake	then get the guard or whatever it is
19:17	LemonLake	It is indeed a bot. But not one we're in control of.
19:17	LemonLake	Pinta looks quite nice
19:17	Amaz	Yep.
19:18	LemonLake	It feels like paint.net
19:18	LemonLake	minus the cursors
19:19	Guy09	~seen VanessaE
19:19	ShadowBot	Guy09: I saw VanessaE in #minetest 7 hours, 40 minutes, and 23 seconds ago saying "night all"
19:20	LemonLake	Guy09: VanessaE is online right now
19:20	LemonLake	But inactive
19:20	Jordach	SHE ISN'T
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19:20	Guy09	No she not
19:20	Krock	she is
19:20	LemonLake	Look in the users list.
19:20	Jordach	LemonLake, NO
19:20	LemonLake	She's sleeping.
19:20	Krock	online but inactive
19:20	Guy09	lol
19:20	LemonLake	Jordach, look at the users list.
19:20	Guy09	sleepin
19:21	Jordach	she might APPEAR HERE but actually ISNT
19:21	LemonLake	What's wrong with sleeping?
19:21	Guy09	Nothin
19:21	Krock	Jordach, yes. that we mean by "online but inactive"
19:21	markveidemanis	I'l migrate my first ever copy
19:21	Calinou	/whois VanessaE VanessaE
19:21	Calinou	shows idle time
19:22	markveidemanis	Only n00b huts anyway
19:22	Calinou	(time since last public or private message)
19:22	Calinou	(notices are ignored in idle time)
19:22	Krock	>/whois VanessaE VanessaE
19:22	Krock	oops
19:22	Calinou	alias in HexChat: //wii
19:22	Calinou	oops, /wii
19:22	markveidemanis	leveldb takes less space?
19:22	Calinou	not sure, markveidemanis
19:22	Calinou	maybe it could take more ;)
19:22	Krock	markveidemanis, 0.01% less
19:22	* Guy09	is tired
19:23	* Calinou	buys Guy09 a tire
19:23	Krock	It's actually a bit smaller
19:23	Calinou	if you share your worlds: compress them well :p
19:23	Guy09	0.o tire
19:23	Krock	7zip for the win!
19:23	Guy09	rolle rolle rolle rolle
19:25	* Guy09	sings don't u worry child by Swedish house mafia in his head
19:25	* LemonLake	doesn't care and thinks that the rest of us also does not need to know that
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19:26	Guy09	there was a time when I looked into my fathers side
19:26	Guy09	in a happy home i ???
19:26	LemonLake	umm
19:26	LemonLake	what
19:26	Guy09	hi craigy
19:26	Guy09	lemon its the lyrics
19:27	CraigyDavi_	Finally! Electricity is back!
19:27	CraigyDavi_	Hi Guy09
19:27	Calinou	wb CraigyDavi_ :)
19:27	LemonLake	Guy09: Don't sing in here
19:27	Guy09	Wat u mean there been blackout at ur house
19:27	CraigyDavi	There was a power cut, yes
19:27	LemonLake	Guy09: Obviously?
19:28	Guy09	oh it's back :p
19:28	Calinou	CraigyDavi, I don't remember if you use Carbone or not, but now it got health bars above players
19:28	Guy09	He left cali
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19:28	Krock	CraigyDavi, an atomic reactor blew up?
19:28	Guy09	Awwww lemon i like singin. :(
19:29	CraigyDavi	Yep I have used Carbone, cool I'll update it :)
19:29	LemonLake	<Calinou> please don't sing in here
19:29	LemonLake	It was said before.
19:29	LemonLake	It is not necessary.
19:29	Calinou	it's annoying, LemonLake, so do it in PM or in another channel
19:29	Calinou	to not annoy people here :)
19:29	CraigyDavi	Krock, No idea - maybe it was cause by me, I was downloading a massive amount of stuff
19:29	LemonLake	Calinou: Why are you quoting me?
19:29	CraigyDavi	But I hope not :P
19:29	LemonLake	s/quoting/highlighting
19:29	Calinou	I'm talking to you
19:30	LemonLake	I was talking to Guy09
19:30	Krock	LemonLake! listen to him!
19:30	LemonLake	Not myself?
19:30	LemonLake	I was also not singing
19:30	LemonLake	Either you're being an asshole or are just confused?
19:30	Krock	life is life nanan nanananan LIFE IS LIFE naananANANAN
19:30	* Guy09	starts playin Sid meiers civalitation revalutions
19:31	LemonLake	Guy09, stop please, it's annoying
19:31	Guy09	sorry for bad spellin
19:31	Krock	LemonLake, life is life!nananannan
19:31	Guy09	lemon ur annoying :p
19:31	Krock	>:D
19:31	LemonLake	What did I do, Guy09?
19:31	CraigyDavi	can't even spell "spelling" :)
19:31	Guy09	U know
19:31	Guy09	lol
19:31	LemonLake	No, I don't. I have brain damage.
19:32	LemonLake	So please tell me.
19:32	LemonLake	What have I done?
19:32	Guy09	Really? 0.o
19:32	Krock	can't spll speling th word "th spellin"
19:32	LemonLake	Yes.
19:33	Guy09	Oh right we r having fun and u r being misarable
19:33	Guy09	:p
19:33	LemonLake	Calinou also finds it annoying.
19:33	Krock	*misErable
19:34	LemonLake	Guy09: I am miserable. I am depressed. But there's nothing you can do about it so stay out of my business.
19:34	Guy09	Guys i recommend watching on YouTube kids react to old computers by TheFineBros
19:34	Guy09	lemon sorry truce?
19:34	LemonLake	Truce?
19:34	LemonLake	What the fuck is this, a war?
19:34	zsoltisa1esome	lol
19:34	Guy09	Maybe 0.o
19:35	Krock	Life is life nana nanana
19:35	LemonLake	Look, you're pissing me off like crazy so I'm just gonna mute you. Cya.
19:35	Guy09	Noooo
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19:36	Guy09	Right wat he said is now vice versa
19:36	LemonLake	oops, added mailto: to the front of that
19:36	Guy09	Done
19:36	LemonLake	Does anyone know how to get an Intuos working on linux?
19:36	LemonLake	I've googled but I can't get anything
19:36	Guy09	Quiet again now
19:36	Guy09	:(
19:37	LemonLake	Or any tablet for that matter
19:37	Krock	Guy09, check out my amazing lua mapgen with caves! and biomes! wow!
19:37	LemonLake	Krock, are the plantlike leaves part of the mapgen, or just your clien?
19:38	Guy09	Wat u mean server?
19:38	Krock	LemonLake, mapgen. disable it self if ya don't liek
19:38	LemonLake	Okay
19:38	LemonLake	They look really strange, that's all
19:38	Krock	Guy09, I mean a mod. not a server
19:39	Guy09	No i mean is the map gens server?
19:40	Krock	there are servers which run with lua mapgens but not much - mine isn't enough popular to be used
19:40	Guy09	Right
19:40	Guy09	i get u
19:40	Krock	most use v6 because it's stable and..popular
19:40	Guy09	Cool
19:40	Krock	it's faster anyway
19:41	Guy09	true i tryed it myself
19:42	Guy09	but it only got me on... No one else sadly :(
19:43	Krock	you can't host a home server without router configuration changes
19:44	Calinou	usually
19:44	Guy09	Ahh that my fault then :3
19:44	Calinou	(which is, almost always)
19:44	Calinou	forward port 30000 (to your PC's internal IP) in your router's configuration interface
19:44	Krock	why 30000?
19:44	Guy09	Bye guys I'm going to bed
19:45	Krock	just a port between 1 and 16^3
19:45	Krock	good bed
19:45	* Guy09	yawns
19:45	LemonLake	uname -v
19:45	LemonLake	dafuq
19:45	LemonLake	no xchat
19:45	Calinou	16Â², you mean
19:45	Calinou	night Guy09
19:45	Calinou	what's the use of uname -v? doesn't show much relevant info
19:45	LemonLake	shows kernel version
19:45	ShadowNinja	Calinou: Nope, 2^16
19:45	Krock	Calinou, not ^2, that's 256.
19:45	CraigyDavi	!up craigd.24tails.com
19:45	MinetestBot	craigd.24tails.com:30000 seems to be down
19:46	CraigyDavi	Hmm
19:46	Krock	2^16 == 16^3
19:46	Krock	= /me was right, too.
19:46	PenguinDad	Krock: that's wrong
19:46	PenguinDad	!c 2**16
19:46	MinetestBot	65536
19:46	PenguinDad	!c 16**3
19:46	MinetestBot	4096
19:46	Krock	damn
19:46	Krock	^4
19:47	zsoltisa1esome	.!c 333
19:47	LemonLake	2^16
19:47	zsoltisa1esome	:P
19:47	Krock	16^4 == 2^16
19:47	LemonLake	!c 16**4
19:47	MinetestBot	65536
19:47	LemonLake	mhmm
19:48	Krock	16^4 == 2^16 == 8^6
19:48	Krock	wut no
19:48	Krock	*^5
19:48	Calinou	ShadowNinja, right
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19:51	LemonLake	Error: could not load module /lib/modules3.11.0-12-generic/kernel/drivers/input/tablet/wacom.ko: No such file or directory
19:51	LemonLake	i was sooo cloose :(
19:51	LemonLake	yesss i think i did it
19:52	LemonLake	BITCH I GOT TABLET SUPPORT NOW
19:52	LemonLake	SUCK IT
19:52	* Calinou	doesn't use graphic tablet
19:53	CraigyDavi	!up craigd.24tails.com
19:53	MinetestBot	craigd.24tails.com:30000 is up (235ms)
19:53	CraigyDavi	:)
19:57	PenguinDad	TIL lua mapgens won't work in freeminer
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20:04	* Calinou	doesn't use Freeminer since long time ago
20:04	Amaz	^same
20:04	Krock	^same same
20:07	kaeza	same game
20:07	markveidemanis	~up craigd.24tails.com
20:07	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: craigd.24tails.com port 30000 is down
20:08	kaeza	freeminer is too choppy on my PC
20:09	Calinou	is it really much slower?
20:09	Calinou	did you try VBOs?
20:10	kaeza	don't remember... it was long ago too
20:11	kaeza	but dunno... something about freeminer just doesn't make me feel at ease
20:14	Calinou	managed by xyz? :p
20:14	Exio4	what TP and blocks are there? https://i.imgur.com/xNwNY.jpg
20:14	Calinou	absolutely no idea :(
20:15	Krock	some hdx textures possibly
20:15	Exio4	yeah yeah :P
20:16	kaeza	Calinou, :P
20:16	CraigyDavi	Exio4, I think that's HDX and homedecor
20:16	Exio4	rly?
20:16	Krock	^yup
20:17	kaeza	is that HDX?
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20:17	Krock	have we got other high resolution TP?
20:17	kaeza	doesn't look like it
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20:18	LemonLake	ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME
20:18	LemonLake	I couldn't save at the time because I was copying large amounts of files so I just carried on editing the texture
20:18	kaeza	dat language
20:18	LemonLake	then Pinta just closes without warning
20:18	Krock	linux?
20:18	CraigyDavi	Theres a 1000x texture pack on the forums somewhere I think
20:18	Calinou	<Krock> some hdx textures possibly
20:18	Calinou	no, just no
20:18	Calinou	<CraigyDavi> Exio4, I think that's HDX and homedecor
20:19	Calinou	did you see it'sâ€¦ Minecraft?
20:19	Calinou	9 items in hotbar, rendering
20:19	Krock	Calinou, I never used hdx, so I can't know
20:19	CraigyDavi	I didn't realise, never played minecraft
20:19	kaeza	the paintings looked odd
20:19	Krock	^
20:19	kaeza	:P
20:19	Krock	<CraigyDavi>I didn't realise, never played minecraft
20:19	Krock	^
20:19	PenguinDad	Calinou: you can set the hotbar size
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20:20	LemonLake	hud_set_hotbar_itemcount(count) Set number of items in builtin hotbar
20:20	Krock	let's use 10 inventory slots!
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20:20	Exio4	doesn't look like MC tbh
20:20	kaeza	Krock, +1
20:20	LemonLake	Count must be between 1 and 23
20:20	Krock	from 1 to 0 (1234567890)all numbers used
20:21	kaeza	Krock, actually, let's use all the 32 slots...oh :(
20:21	kaeza	right
20:21	zsoltisa1esome	lol
20:21	Amaz	^ Yes.
20:21	Krock	lol
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20:21	zsoltisa1esome	^ No.
20:21	zsoltisa1esome	lol
20:21	Krock	^yes
20:21	zsoltisa1esome	^ no
20:21	kaeza	fun fact: the first minetest version allowed selecting any block with the mouse wheel :P
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20:22	kaeza	(because there were like 9 blocks in total :P)
20:22	zsoltisa1esome	kaeza: it still does! gasp
20:22	Krock	kaeza, still possible... if you set inv. size to 8 ;P
20:22	Exio4	Calinou: is it rly minecraft?
20:22	kaeza	Krock, what about items 9-32 ?
20:22	Krock	wo knows...
20:22	Exio4	i'm still not sure
20:23	Krock	kaeza, would need at least 2 numbers
20:23	Krock	numbers/keys
20:23	kaeza	C-m select-item 9
20:23	Exio4	lol'd
20:23	Krock	huh
20:24	kaeza	C-i*
20:24	Krock	still
20:24	Krock	huh
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20:24	kaeza	or whatever
20:25	* kaeza	needs coffee
20:25	* Krock	hands kaeza a pot of coffee
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20:25	CraigyDavi	Good news server owners: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1346
20:26	Exio4	oh yeah, it is MC, w/o TP it is http://i.imgur.com/9wh9k.png
20:26	Krock	20MB? I don't care. 20% faster? yes I care
20:27	CraigyDavi	No more deleting player files :D
20:27	Exio4	:<
20:27	Krock	CraigyDavi, look at line 398
20:27	Exio4	thought it was MT
20:28	CraigyDavi	Hmm?
20:28	Exio4	anyway
20:28	kaeza	oh so those stereos were actually dispensers? :\|
20:28	Krock	"+ std::string players_path = m_path_world + DIR_DELIM "players";" is there a + missing?!
20:29	kaeza	not dispensers either, that other thing :\|
20:29	zsoltisa1esome	droppers?
20:29	kaeza	^
20:29	zsoltisa1esome	jukeboxes?
20:29	zsoltisa1esome	noteblocks?
20:29	zsoltisa1esome	ah ok
20:30	CraigyDavi	Not sure
20:36	Calinou	<Exio4> Calinou: is it rly minecraft?
20:36	Calinou	yes
20:36	Calinou	<kaeza> (because there were like 9 blocks in total :P)
20:36	Calinou	I should look into adding a larger hotbar to Carbone
20:36	Calinou	would need inventory refactoring to work well :/
20:37	kaeza	?
20:38	kaeza	what do you mean?
20:39	Calinou	kaeza, if hotbar has more slots, then the inventory should be wider
20:39	Calinou	(and have less rows)
20:39	Calinou	eg. 12 Ã— 3 instead of 8 Ã— 4
20:40	kaeza	ah
20:40	kaeza	could be a good idea
20:41	Krock	4 x 1 slots for survival +++
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20:41	kaeza	I usually find that 8 slots are just not enough :/
20:41	kaeza	-usually
20:42	zsoltisa1esome	usually 9 isn't enought either
20:42	zsoltisa1esome	10 slots FTW
20:46	Calinou	new boat and hover textures in Carbone
20:46	Calinou	I wanted 12, kaeza
20:46	Calinou	would be nicer if you could customize hotbar keys
20:47	Calinou	eg. use 0, ) and = on AZERTY
20:47	Calinou	for the last slots
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20:50	kaeza	I generally only use numbers 1-5 and select others with the mouse
20:51	kaeza	1 for sword, 2 for pick, 3 for axe/shovel, 4 for cobble, 5 for torches
20:51	Krock	[pick][torch][if_exists(group:explosive)][cobble]
20:52	* kaeza	puts a mese nuke from slot #6 into Krock's head
20:52	kaeza	s/into/on :\|
20:52	Calinou	I never use numbers because they don't work on AZERTY and I play with mouse wheel anyway
20:52	Krock	nah, there's enough space inside
20:53	Calinou	like the â€œclowns of the FFA made in Sauerbratenâ€
20:53	Krock	Sauerbraten - it brÃ¤ts sauer!
20:54	Calinou	strange, I had two singleplayer instances of Minetest
20:54	Calinou	world is not corrupted apparently
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20:57	nman3600	hi
20:57	Calinou	zsoltisa1esome, link to your GitHub does not work (404)
20:57	Calinou	https://github.com/ManOfMinetest24
20:58	zsoltisa1esome	which?
20:59	CraigyDavi	Calinou, https://github.com/realtinymonster
21:01	Calinou	zsoltisa1esome, on forum
21:01	Calinou	link to your GitHub is outdated
21:01	zsoltisa1esome	catninja: where?
21:01	zsoltisa1esome	lol
21:01	LemonLake	nman3600: http://i.imgur.com/UGKpt5G.png
21:01	zsoltisa1esome	Calinou: ^^
21:02	nman3600	LemonLake nice
21:02	zsoltisa1esome	oh
21:02	zsoltisa1esome	fixing...
21:02	Calinou	zsoltisa1esome, on forum settings
21:02	zsoltisa1esome	fixed
21:02	Calinou	LemonLake, nice, but textures should be 16 Ã— 16
21:03	Calinou	(generally)
21:03	Calinou	to be consistent with the defaults
21:03	LemonLake	Calinou
21:03	LemonLake	All of my textures are 32x32 because I really like detail
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21:03	LemonLake	There are only about 8 nodes and 10 items in the entire game so it's no big deal
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21:11	Calinou	ah
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21:12	catninja	zsoltisa1esome: sweden :P
21:12	catninja	haha
21:12	zsoltisa1esome	lol
21:12	zsoltisa1esome	sorry
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21:16	Calinou	https://mediacru.sh/jyuH-1Wnipc9
21:16	Calinou	health bars
21:16	LemonLake	Looks quite nice.
21:18	Calinou	I may implement Lua health/bubble bars later, to colour them similarly
21:18	Calinou	(however, they will probably lose client-side prediction)
21:18	Calinou	lag will be more feel-able :(
21:19	sapier	for recent clients health bars are lue side anyway
21:20	Calinou	yeah, but I want to customize them
21:20	Calinou	(add background, different colours based on health maybe)
21:20	Calinou	background is something quite important to me :P
21:20	sapier	doesn't change the speed
21:20	Calinou	what about prediction?
21:20	Calinou	if I lag a lot, will the health bar change immediatly on client or not?
21:20	Calinou	(like the older ones did)
21:20	Calinou	(no idea about current ones, I did not test multiplayer)
21:23	sapier	http://animalsmod.comuf.com/downloads/Minetest-release_20140530.apk added a gui scaling setting to gui for those of you having devices providing strange dpi values
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21:59	kaeza	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/sXHH_ldHrnNu.jpg
21:59	LemonLake	Nice hud :D
22:00	LemonLake	I have to be careful if I update to the new version to not overwrite all my modified code
22:01	* kaeza	loves how ^combine is basically a free-form canvas
22:01	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/9240700
22:01	LemonLake	Kaeza, did you somehow make the wielditem more deep?
22:01	markveidemanis	Lucky player
22:01	kaeza	the hud is a single texture, as far as the client is concerned :P
22:02	LemonLake	markveidemanis: nman came to me and said how he's really rich in your server because of the diamond cave lol
22:02	kaeza	I removed the outlines from the hand
22:02	kaeza	other than that, nothing
22:02	LemonLake	Would people care if I didn't actualy update in ace of picks?
22:02	LemonLake	update firearms in ace of picks
22:02	Jordach	LemonLake, nobody cares about internal updates
22:03	Jordach	as long as it plays the same
22:03	LemonLake	aight
22:19	kaeza	okay, off to bed
22:19	kaeza	night
22:21	Jordach	seriously?!
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22:30	realtinymonster	:(
22:30	realtinymonster	Megaf: you there?
22:31	realtinymonster	LemonLake: Heyo!
22:32	realtinymonster	ok den
22:34	LemonLake	realtinymonster: Heyo!
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22:36	LemonLake	What is default_cloud.png?
22:36	LemonLake	Is it the texture for the clouds or sometin?
22:37	realtinymonster	used to be
22:37	realtinymonster	its no longer used
22:37	realtinymonster	afaik
22:37	LemonLake	May as well delete it den
22:37	realtinymonster	yeah
22:37	Jordach	that texture doesn't even exist in BFD
22:37	realtinymonster	woot!
22:50	LemonLake	76 textures and going down :D
22:50	realtinymonster	LemonLake: what are you doing?
22:50	LemonLake	Where be treeprop used?
22:50	realtinymonster	0.3.x
22:50	realtinymonster	:P
22:50	LemonLake	Making ace of picks smaller in textures since I'm only gonna have a few nodes
22:50	LemonLake	+ I want to have 32x32 textures without it being a burden on resources and stuff
22:50	realtinymonster	yeah
22:51	realtinymonster	LemonLake: safe to remove
22:51	realtinymonster	its a legacy thing
22:51	LemonLake	Cool thanks
22:51	LemonLake	player and player_back I'm assuming I can remove now?
22:52	realtinymonster	yeah, unless you want 2dplayers :P
22:52	LemonLake	Of course not :P
22:53	realtinymonster	HMM
22:54	LemonLake	69 textuers, 1.6MB
22:54	realtinymonster	I wonder if I should add firearms into Moontest
22:55	realtinymonster	Waht do you think LemonLake
22:55	LemonLake	You could add firearms but make them non-guns
22:55	LemonLake	maybe stuff like harpoons, crossbows?
22:56	realtinymonster	yeah
22:56	realtinymonster	or maybe space-themed guns?
22:56	realtinymonster	:P
22:56	LemonLake	like laser guns and stuff?
22:56	LemonLake	blasters, etc
22:56	Jordach	pewpewpew
22:57	LemonLake	^
22:57	realtinymonster	yep
22:57	LemonLake	65 textures, still 1.6mb
22:57	realtinymonster	possible?
22:57	LemonLake	sure it is
22:57	realtinymonster	yeah!
22:57	realtinymonster	I have to talk it over with the guys, but I might add it!
23:03	LemonLake	Do statbars not align? D:
23:03	LemonLake	default_cloud IS used
23:04	realtinymonster	wut
23:04	LemonLake	It errored when I removed it
23:04	realtinymonster	my what?
23:04	realtinymonster	*by
23:04	LemonLake	clouds?
23:04	realtinymonster	grep for default_cloud.png
23:19	LemonLake	realtinymonster: http://imgur.com/7jGFFiy
23:20	LemonLake	I got the previous fist texture, scaled it up double, detailed it and shaded it
23:20	LemonLake	how does it look?
23:20	realtinymonster	LemonLake: mediacru.sh?
23:20	LemonLake	what's wrong with imgur?
23:21	realtinymonster	imgur is sad
23:21	realtinymonster	ads
23:21	realtinymonster	and lack of privacy
23:21	LemonLake	I have an auto-uploader to imgur doe >.<
23:22	Jordach	problem!
23:22	Jordach	BIG PROBLEM
23:22	LemonLake	I don't like mediacru.sh because of the long url, the lack of ctrl + v posting, use of iframes and clutteredness
23:22	Jordach	LemonLake, MediaCrush has ctrl + v pastiong
23:22	realtinymonster	LemonLake: there Is ctrl + v postig
23:22	LemonLake	That's new but all of the other things still
23:23	realtinymonster	LemonLake: well, imgur is blocked on here :P
23:23	LemonLake	I'll use dropbox then
23:23	realtinymonster	blocked
23:23	LemonLake	..why?
23:23	realtinymonster	protective father
23:24	LemonLake	No accept?
23:25	realtinymonster	??
23:25	LemonLake	I sent you a file in IRC.
23:27	SylvieLorxu	LemonLake: IRC file transfer is really unreliable because it needs special router settings
23:28	LemonLake	I'm halfway through getting a screenshot uploader
23:28	LemonLake	Apparently imgur is blocked, I hate mediacrush so I'm getting shutter.
23:29	SylvieLorxu	I personally use img.bi
23:29	LemonLake	Are you on Linux?
23:29	SylvieLorxu	Yes
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23:29	LemonLake	Aight
23:29	LemonLake	Well I'm getting shutter for auto-upload anyway
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23:30	SylvieLorxu	https://childrenofur.github.io/coUclient/game.html <- Does this load properly for anyone, by any chance? I'm wondering if it's just me or if the Children of Ur client is really broken
23:31	LemonLake	dafuq is this
23:32	LemonLake	Well it worked.
23:33	VanessaE	works for me,.
23:33	LemonLake	What do you guys think of this? http://i.imgur.com/7jGFFiy.png
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23:34	LemonLake	I got the one from the previous version of AoP but made it bigger, more detailed and shaded
23:35	SylvieLorxu	Aww...
23:35	LemonLake	?
23:35	SylvieLorxu	I don't like not getting it to run, heh...
23:36	LemonLake	no opinions?
23:37	VanessaE	it's okay LemonLake
23:37	VanessaE	not enough contrast
23:37	VanessaE	the form is good though
23:37	LemonLake	contrast?
23:37	VanessaE	nod
23:37	LemonLake	hmm ok
23:37	VanessaE	colors aren't sharp/bright/dark enough
23:38	LemonLake	http://i.imgur.com/J0pjRJ5.png
23:41	LemonLake	wbn?
23:41	MinetestBot	GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Fix over-poping and only push the core once 5bd2aea663 2014-05-30T19:38:11-04:00 http://git.io/6lirhw
23:41	LemonLake	popping*
23:42	realtinymonster	*pooping
23:42	LemonLake	so immateure
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23:43	realtinymonster	LemonLake: great minds think alike
23:43	realtinymonster	:D
23:44	LemonLake	https://mediacru.sh/pu7EkDhWNGnV
23:44	LemonLake	what do you think?
23:48	VanessaE	LemonLake: better, but increase the contrast more, and reduce the saturation a little
23:49	realtinymonster	VanessaE: be the judge: zsoltisawesome.insomnia247.nl/gitpack/wood.png
23:49	LemonLake	too blurry
23:49	VanessaE	realtinymonster: nope.avi
23:50	LemonLake	https://mediacru.sh/7ys0fi-w-44p
23:50	VanessaE	realtinymonster: you blurred the default wood and did a FIlters -> Map -> Make Seamless.
23:51	VanessaE	LemonLake: lower the brightness, still needs more contrast
23:52	LemonLake	https://mediacru.sh/nZO6sIdKDMwW
23:52	LemonLake	?
23:52	VanessaE	hm..
23:52	realtinymonster	VanessaE: nope, but I did do make seamless :P
23:52	VanessaE	mind if I have a go at it?
23:53	LemonLake	VanessaE: Is that good?
23:54	VanessaE	LemonLake: lemme see if I can tweak it a bit.
23:54	LemonLake	okay, I'll give you an xcf
23:55	LemonLake	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21596039/wieldhand.xcf
23:55	VanessaE	no need, I already extracted the original from the screenshot :D
23:56	LemonLake	Screenshotter has color inaccuracies
23:56	* VanessaE	grabs the xcf anyway
23:56	LemonLake	Just get the xcf please
23:56	VanessaE	ok
23:58	realtinymonster	Heh, 'Classhole'
23:58	realtinymonster	:P
23:58	realtinymonster	XKCD FTW
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23:59	realtinymonster	BrandonReese: Woot!

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