IRC log for #minetest, 2014-05-28

Time	Nick	Message
00:03	hunterx689	O_o
00:03	hunterx689	lemolake
00:03	hunterx689	........
00:03	LemonLake	Yes?
00:03	hunterx689	wtm is that?
00:03	LemonLake	What? My screenshot?
00:03	hunterx689	yep
00:04	LemonLake	That's the progress of Ace of Picks.
00:04	LemonLake	It's a gamemode that I'm making for MT similar to the original Ace of Spades.
00:04	LemonLake	Not the valve one.
00:04	hunterx689	....................................
00:04	hunterx689	O_o
00:04	LemonLake	Ã¸.Ã¸?
00:04	LemonLake	Why that?
00:04	LemonLake	Oh okay.
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00:05	charlie	ok back
00:05	hunterx689	:â‚¬
00:06	hunterx689	hey lemon
00:06	hunterx689	Ã¸.Ã¸
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00:06	LemonLake	jas
00:06	hunterx689	megaf is here...
00:06	LemonLake	mhm
00:06	LemonLake	kk
00:07	LemonLake	does this affect me in any way shape or form
00:07	hunterx689	and who are you lemon?
00:07	hunterx689	-_-
00:07	LemonLake	what do you mean 'who am I'
00:07	hunterx689	XD
00:07	hunterx689	yep
00:07	LemonLake	Okay
00:07	hunterx689	i never see you in the forums aka you are new for me
00:07	LemonLake	I'm a student developer diagnosed with Aspergers who is on the brink of insanity, death of boredom etc etc.
00:07	LemonLake	I came to the forums a month ago releasing a mod I'd thrown together in a day.
00:07	LemonLake	Since then I've been pretty quiet.
00:08	hunterx689	......................................................................................................
00:08	LemonLake	More detail?
00:08	hunterx689	._.
00:08	hunterx689	no
00:08	hunterx689	its ok
00:08	Jordach	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8511&p=143022#p143022
00:08	LemonLake	That's who I am then
00:09	hunterx689	jordach whats that?
00:09	Jordach	work on this plz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9277
00:09	LemonLake	You want an update?
00:09	LemonLake	When I finish Ace of Picks, I'll go back to it and continue adding power cables or something.
00:09	hunterx689	O_o
00:09	Jordach	no power cables
00:09	Jordach	PLEASE GOD NO
00:09	Jordach	i've had it with the IC2 like power systems
00:10	LemonLake	Okay then.
00:10	LemonLake	No power cables then.
00:10	hunterx689	........
00:10	Jordach	i want redstone like hoppers + automation
00:10	LemonLake	Everything will be coal-burning.
00:10	* hunterx689	thinks why Jordach put that links .-.
00:10	LemonLake	I'll scrap all that code and add Pollutio instead.
00:10	LemonLake	Like nature can slowly die if you have too much factory stuff, and when it's too extreme it can poison you
00:10	LemonLake	You can have like suits to prevent it though
00:10	LemonLake	Better?
00:11	Jordach	we don't have the speed for gas simulation at 3d scale#
00:11	Jordach	basic levels of industrialisation always looks bad
00:11	LemonLake	No gas simulation.
00:11	LemonLake	Just radius based.
00:11	Jordach	rather crude
00:11	Jordach	(like that time i made a automated TNT factory on VanessaE's server)
00:12	LemonLake	I'll have to find a way to 'protect' the entities, though.
00:12	LemonLake	I might just have a PureLuaEntitySEO almost identical to the dropped item, except you can't pick it up.
00:15	Jordach	LemonLake, or remove the hitbox ;)
00:15	LemonLake	In the existing item entity, or my own ?
00:15	Jordach	LemonLake, you could specify something to differentiate it
00:15	Jordach	(builtin item drops are overridable)
00:16	LemonLake	Is the existing dropped item in builtin, or is it in C++?
00:16	LemonLake	Also, if you could post this on the forum post that'd be great
00:17	Jordach	LemonLake, Lua
00:17	LemonLake	eat
00:17	LemonLake	Neat
00:17	Jordach	see minetest/builtin/item.lua
00:17	Jordach	actually
00:17	LemonLake	I will check it out when I complete Portal
00:17	Jordach	i have no fucking idea (it used to be like that RBA, sapier)
00:17	RealBadAngel	what?
00:17	kaeza	procrastination, procrastination everywhere!
00:18	LemonLake	Just portalled RIGHT into the pellet in Chamber 8
00:18	Jordach	builtin's folder used to be tiny and simple
00:19	Jordach	it's full of useless bullshit because sapier kept making the wrong choices
00:19	Jordach	(and is still doing so)
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00:19	LemonLake	In 0.4.10 there should be a major cleanuo
00:19	LemonLake	cleanup
00:19	LemonLake	I'm not used to the codebase but if I was I would help
00:19	Jordach	hint: the engine happens to be named MINEtest
00:19	RealBadAngel	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/game/item_entity.lua
00:19	Jordach	people are expecting a prebuilt game for mining
00:19	Jordach	NOT a fucking engine
00:20	LemonLake	Eeyup
00:20	hunterx689	back...
00:20	LemonLake	The actual game is minetest_game, minetest_next, cubane etc etc etc
00:20	hunterx689	lemon i think it would be 0.5.0
00:20	LemonLake	Except it's commonly abbreviated to Minetest for simplicity sake
00:20	LemonLake	I heard 0.4.10
00:20	hunterx689	lemom
00:20	Jordach	0.4.10
00:20	LemonLake	Yesterday I think
00:20	LemonLake	Yo
00:21	Jordach	<- happened to make a certain graphical change to start that
00:21	hunterx689	and i thik it would be 0.5.0
00:21	Jordach	hunterx689, computer program numbers don't have to change every 10 major updates
00:21	Jordach	see Winamp with 5.5.666
00:21	LemonLake	oh god
00:21	hunterx689	O)_O
00:21	LemonLake	Ã¸.Ã¸
00:21	* hunterx689	shut up
00:21	LemonLake	But yes, Jordach is correct
00:21	* hunterx689	shut down
00:22	* hunterx689	shut.... in da middle XD
00:22	LemonLake	They're commonly sorted into something around the lines of this:
00:22	LemonLake	1.2.333 = Major.Minor.Build
00:22	Jordach	and the last release of Winamp had to be on 666
00:22	LemonLake	Sometimes 0.1.2.333 = Release.Major.Minor.Build
00:22	Jordach	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/grJfI7lCUllU.png
00:22	LemonLake	I think in Minetest's sake it's Release.Major.Minor.Build
00:22	LemonLake	Build being the commit
00:22	hunterx689	cani kick someone?
00:22	VanessaE	the next minetest version will be 0.4.10
00:23	LemonLake	I'm happy to be kicked.
00:23	hunterx689	-_-
00:23	* hunterx689	kick LemonLake
00:23	hunterx689	you want it..
00:23		LemonLake was kicked by Jordach: you did actually ask for this :P
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00:23	hunterx689	XD
00:23	LemonLake	Thank you.
00:23	LemonLake	My life is complete now.
00:23	hunterx689	XD
00:23	Jordach	i can make that a +b
00:23	hunterx689	no it isnt
00:23	* Jordach	cackles
00:23	VanessaE	hunterx689: ^^
00:23	hunterx689	jordach need to ban you XD
00:24	hunterx689	XD
00:24	Jordach	pfft
00:24	hunterx689	jordach pls kick me XD
00:24	hunterx689	...
00:24	hunterx689	no no no
00:24	hunterx689	mommy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
00:24	Jordach	lel
00:24	hunterx689	XD
00:24	hunterx689	do it
00:24	Jordach	!kick can't be bothered to do that again
00:24	Jordach	dammit#
00:24	hunterx689	XD
00:24	Jordach	<- 1:24am == too tired to think
00:24	hunterx689	i got jordach angry XD
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00:25	Jordach	!kick hunterx689 i got it right this time
00:25		hunterx689 was kicked by MinetestBot: i got it right this time
00:25	Jordach	hey Zeno`
00:25	Zeno`	Hi Jordach, how's things?
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00:25	Jordach	gooooooooood
00:25	hunterx689	lel
00:25	Jordach	except tired (1:25 am here)
00:25	hunterx689	7:25 pm here chekmate
00:25	Zeno`	still early then
00:26	Zeno`	10:30AM here
00:26	hunterx689	;P zeno
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00:26	LemonLake	Jordach, you in the UK?
00:26	hunterx689	where are you?
00:26	hunterx689	mars?
00:26	Jordach	yes
00:26	Zeno`	me? Australia
00:26	LemonLake	Ah okay
00:26	Jordach	Norfolk to be exact
00:26	LemonLake	Ditto
00:26	hunterx689	O_o
00:26	LemonLake	Just north of london
00:26	hunterx689	XD
00:26	hunterx689	mexico
00:27	LemonLake	I think our town was voted the crappest town in England
00:27	LemonLake	That's quite a title :L
00:27	Jordach	or a more precise locale
00:27	Jordach	http://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=NR10%205EX#map=18/52.75472/1.30677
00:27	Jordach	(and yes, i got goddamn lucky with the last 3 digits of the Postcode)
00:27	LemonLake	Haha
00:27	LemonLake	That's quite the postcode
00:27	Zeno`	same as your bank card PIN?
00:27	LemonLake	oh shit how did you know?
00:28	Zeno`	just a guess
00:28	LemonLake	(facepalm)
00:28	hunterx689	XD
00:28	LemonLake	Every time... in chamber 11
00:28	Jordach	<- doesn't use human generated pins
00:28	hunterx689	jordach just
00:28	hunterx689	XD
00:28	LemonLake	I always go back to the starting place to hit the button to open the door
00:28	LemonLake	then I remember...it was moved...
00:28	Jordach	because i always use a specific rule to do it
00:28	hunterx689	XD
00:28	hunterx689	NR10 5EX
00:29	hunterx689	ok i shut up
00:29	Jordach	i was also ~120m from a homemade car bomb (failed assassination)
00:29	hunterx689	O%o
00:29	Zeno`	who was trying to assassinate you? :-o
00:29	hunterx689	wtf
00:29	LemonLake	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2391834/Crap-Towns-Returns-poll-Hemel-Hempstead-tops-ugliest-list-votes-open-dullest.html
00:29	LemonLake	I'm ashamed.
00:30	deezl	hey zeno
00:30	Zeno`	hi deezl... fancy seeing you here
00:30	hunterx689	hey guys
00:30	hunterx689	you will be in better places than me
00:30	deezl	well, can't get on MTZ, :(
00:30	Jordach	Demel Dumpstead more like ;)
00:30	Zeno`	deezl, why? Full?
00:31	deezl	yup
00:31	LemonLake	xD
00:31	deezl	I was wondering, what would it take to beef up your server?
00:31	Zeno`	I'm going to increase max players again. I changed some cache settings and stuff and I think it handle more again now
00:31	LemonLake	To beef up your server...
00:31	LemonLake	It would take a lot of cows
00:31	LemonLake	and a lot of farmers
00:31	Jordach	Zeno`, what iron are you running that thing on
00:31	deezl	ha! cows we can get!
00:31	Zeno`	it's a VPS
00:32	Jordach	<- was expecting something a bit beter
00:32	Zeno`	it should handle 30 players with my new settings (I think)
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00:33	Jordach	LemonLake, i happen to have about Â£695 to my name, what about you ;)
00:33	LemonLake	Student :P
00:33	hunterx689	http://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=17.5312%2C-99.4898
00:33	deezl	Oh, that's cool. I was willing to contribute some money if it would help, like to get more bandwidth, or RAM. I think you have something really cool there
00:33	Zeno`	I'm also trying (insanely perhaps) porting some of the mapgen stuff (the stuff in some mods and also ABMs) to C (although C++ --> Lua --> C makes me cringe)
00:34	Zeno`	RAM isn't an issue
00:34	deezl	that is a bit insane, but if it makes the game better...
00:34	hunterx689	no
00:35	deezl	ah nuts...mom needs some help spreading some stones in her garden, be back in a bit
00:35	Zeno`	I really think the changes will make a big difference. Will see over the next few days
00:35	deezl	(she lives next door)
00:35	Jordach	unlucky shit
00:35	deezl	Very cool. I am not a coder, but if I can help in any way, let me know
00:36	Zeno`	I'm even also thinking of seeing if building with -O3 makes a difference -- it would, but stability may become an issue.. hard to tell without testing
00:36	Zeno`	I'll do it on my home server first
00:36	Jordach	i used to build on -O3
00:36	Jordach	never had issues
00:36	Zeno`	I'm willing to try anything ;)
00:37	Zeno`	I build most of my personal projects with -O3 and never had issues, so I don't /really/ see why it would be an issue with minetest
00:38	Zeno`	disk access might be the bottleneck anyway
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00:38	Zeno`	have to do testing
00:38	hunterx689	!me thinks
00:40	Zeno`	deezl: I'll increase the max users tonight and watch over the next few days
00:40	Enke	~tell ShadowNinja For some reason, your server doesn't seem to be connected to IRC any more. Just letting you know in case you didn't already. Cheers!
00:40	ShadowBot	Enke: O.K.
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00:43	LemonLake	Chamber 16
00:43	LemonLake	4 more chambers, I think 6 or 7 escape levels and a boss fight to go
01:06	ShadowNinja	Enke: Ah, thanks for the tip.
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01:06	LemonLake	Nearly done with portal.
01:06	Enke	Also, I keep getting some strange "peer1 timeout" error or somesuch.
01:08	hunterx689	hi shadow
01:09	hunterx689	hmm enke
01:09	hunterx689	i think inchra net is shut down for a while
01:09	LemonLake	The domain is
01:09	LemonLake	The IRC is not
01:09	Enke	hunterx689: tell your client to connect to digitalaudioconcepts.com
01:09	Enke	port 6667.
01:10	ShadowNinja	Or shadowninja.minetest.net. :-)
01:10	LemonLake	Back to developing :D
01:10	LemonLake	Damn Portal was fun to replay
01:10	Enke	Yeah, that should work too.
01:10	LemonLake	It never gets old
01:10	hunterx689	like /server digitalaudioconcepts.com 6667 +
01:11	Enke	Or just go into your client's settings, if you have such a client.
01:11	ShadowNinja	No, 6667 or +6697.
01:12	hunterx689	no sorry my keyboard is messed up
01:14	Enke	ShadowNinja: How far does the map screenshot go?
01:15	Enke	The one that is taken daily.
01:15	ShadowNinja	Enke: Do you mean the overview map?
01:15	Enke	yes.
01:15	LemonLake	http://rogerdudler.github.io/git-guide/files/git_cheat_sheet.pdf
01:15	LemonLake	Friend just sent me that. I love it.
01:15	ShadowNinja	Enke: It's no longer made daily (it locked up my computer once) but it extends -1000 to 1000.
01:16	Enke	Darn. Thanks for the info
01:16	Enke	LemonLake: That's neat! I'll be using that as well!
01:16	LemonLake	:D
01:16	LemonLake	http://rogerdudler.github.io/git-guide/ There's that too but I prefer the cheat sheet
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01:18	ShadowNinja	PD-:F
01:18	LemonLake	Making a 1920x1080 wallpaper out of it
01:33	LemonLake	Feeling more comfortable with git now
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02:47	Exio4	a question for people in the US, would you pay +4% or +5% (in taxes) for having cheaper public universitary education?
02:47	kizeren	Nope.
02:48	Exio4	k
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02:54	Exio4	VanessaE: ^ :P
02:54	VanessaE	nope.avi
02:55	Exio4	k
02:55	VanessaE	if it led to "free" uni education, in a heartbeat.
02:55	kizeren	Yes
02:55	kizeren	I would do that then.
02:55	VanessaE	abso-fuckin-lutely.
02:55	Exio4	k
02:55	Exio4	by cheaper i didn't mean 5% less but actually only paying materials and transportation
02:56	VanessaE	still not enough, "materials" are ridiculous here
02:56	VanessaE	books cost hundreds of dollars
02:56	VanessaE	transportation too but it's like that in many parts of the world, so that's a wash
02:58	kizeren	Anyone recommend a good server hosting company?
02:58	kizeren	For minetest that is.
02:59	VanessaE	I use OVH.
02:59	VanessaE	they're good enough
03:00	VanessaE	but I got in under the wire with their cheap servers
03:01	kizeren	Never shopped for a VPS before. Not sure what is "good" vs. "Cheap".
03:01	VanessaE	with VPS's, good and cheap are at opposite ends of the scale :P
03:02	kizeren	heh
03:02	kizeren	figures
03:03	kizeren	was looking at the 1&1 server hosting for 4.99
03:04	kizeren	but they skimp on the details of CPU
03:06	VanessaE	yup
03:06	VanessaE	they often do
03:06	VanessaE	the last one I used was Linode
03:06	VanessaE	they gave you 8 cores of some Xeon CPU but you didn't actually GET much out of it because the disks were always heavily loaded
03:07	Exio4	for the records, could you answer here too bit.ly/1tMMs93 it is just so i later remember what you said
03:08	Exio4	it is a google form link btw
03:09	kizeren	Done Exio4
03:09	Exio4	kk
03:10	kizeren	$20 a month for linode.
03:10	kizeren	3 times the price I pay for my minecraft server.
03:12	Exio4	the people who paid for linode said they mainly paid for their support
03:14	kizeren	They needed support that much?
03:15	Exio4	:D luv youtube-dl
03:19	kizeren	256 MB Ram 1 vCPU 10GB DiskSpace 1TB NetUse $3.65 a month. Hmm......doubt MT would run on this.
03:21	Exio4	what about lowest tier of DigitalOcean?
03:28	VanessaE	kizeren: you might be able to get a low-end system to run on that
03:28	kizeren	Going to try Alantic.net
03:28	kizeren	4.97 amonth
03:29	kizeren	512mb RAM 1cpu 1tb transfer 20gb disk
03:29	kizeren	CentOS 64bit
03:30	VanessaE	that should do fine
03:31	Exio4	>centos >2014
03:31	VanessaE	he can always install some other OS I'm sure
03:32	kizeren	Yea if I go ubuntu 1 dollar cheaper :)
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03:34	kizeren	apparently java and win8.1 is broke....
03:34	kizeren	bugger hells bells
03:36	kizeren	Hi Kaeza.
03:37	kaeza	sup kizeren
03:38	kizeren	trying to get new server up and going.
03:38	kizeren	why the hell will win8 not run java 7
03:39	kaeza	because Win8 :D
03:39	kaeza	didn't you use Arch?
03:40	kizeren	laptop
03:40	kizeren	to lazy to partition the drive
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03:41	kizeren	I do love arch linux but meh...since they reworked the install methods....pass.
03:42	VanessaE	get xubuntu.
03:42	VanessaE	14.04 works pretty smoothly now
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03:45	kizeren	xubuntu
03:45	kizeren	"x" being?
03:45	VanessaE	XFCE
03:45	kizeren	Ahhh
03:45	kaeza	Xfce <3
03:47	Zeno`	xfiles
03:50	kizeren	hmm...
03:52	kizeren	what is the cmake flag for server only?
03:53	VanessaE	-DBUILD_CLIENT=0
03:53	kizeren	zlib problem bleh...
03:56	kizeren	Oo MT and centos don't play well together?
03:57	VanessaE	?
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03:59	kizeren	WOn't compile.
04:00	VanessaE	sowwy :(
04:01	Zeno`	install zlib
04:02	kizeren	switched over to ubuntu 12.04
04:02	kizeren	zlib was installed.
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04:13	kizeren	Finally its compiling...
04:13	* kizeren	is rusty....
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04:14	* VanessaE	hands kizeren some 3-in-1 oil
04:14	kizeren	lol
04:14	kizeren	Can you link me the area protection real fast?
04:15	VanessaE	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7239
04:15	kizeren	Ahh thanks
04:16	VanessaE	there.
04:17	* VanessaE	just busted her piece of shit keyboard in half.
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04:17	VanessaE	"Don't worry, I carry extras."
04:17	LimePool	???
04:18	kizeren	woah...
04:18	kizeren	minetest-irc changed.
04:19	kizeren	there is no "make" anymore?
04:19	VanessaE	LimePool: I was quoting "Rat Race"
04:20	LimePool	make love, not war
04:20	LimePool	:P
04:20	VanessaE	kizeren: nope
04:21	VanessaE	you just clone and install it, but you gotta install luasocket from your distro's repo now.
04:22	kizeren	bugger hell
04:23	LimePool	LuaSocket should come precompiled
04:23	kizeren	git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest-game.git doesn't work.
04:23	VanessaE	LimePool: it used to come with the mod but apparently that's common enough in modern distros
04:23	VanessaE	kizeren: underscore
04:23	VanessaE	not dash
04:23	VanessaE	https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game.git
04:24	kaeza	and minetest_game is dead anyway
04:24	* kaeza	pokes kizeren with minetest_next
04:24	kizeren	?
04:24	kaeza	available somewhere!
04:24	kizeren	next?
04:24	VanessaE	screw that, get dreambuilder :D
04:24	LimePool	git pish
04:24	kizeren	link to minetest_next?
04:24	VanessaE	https://github.com/VanessaE/dreambuilder_game
04:25	LimePool	haha
04:25	VanessaE	next: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9066
04:25	kaeza	VanessaE, suddenly: where are my 294623964TB of memory????
04:25	kaeza	:D
04:25	VanessaE	kaeza: works for me :D
04:25	VanessaE	kaeza: seriously, my servers, the 7 of them combined, only use a bit over 2 GB and two of those run dreambuilder.
04:26	LimePool	sounds like it raining crickets here XD
04:26	VanessaE	(I can't be held responsible for the client misusing resources :P )
04:26	kaeza	good thing is you don't need any other mod... because dreambuilder has them all!
04:26	kaeza	:D
04:26	kaeza	(which is good)
04:27	kaeza	(department of redundancy department)
04:27	LimePool	except no moon!
04:28	VanessaE	heheh
04:28	LimePool	hehe, no route to Post!
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04:29	reactor	Now I can read Unicode but not write.
04:29	LimePool	mooooooooooooon! says the moon cow
04:29	kaeza	seriously though, kizeren, forget about mt_game and get mt_next/dreambuilder/carbone
04:29	reactor	This is weirdest ever.
04:29	LimePool	why?
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04:30	kizeren	I forget how to start using dreambuilder ?
04:30	LimePool	lol
04:31	LimePool	lua!
04:31	kaeza	wget <somewhere> -O db.zip; unzip db.zip; mv dreambuilder_game worlds/kiz_world/game
04:32	LimePool	D: my brother got me sick!!
04:32	kizeren	kaeza irc.port for config? Or is default fine?
04:33	kaeza	default should be fine
04:33	kaeza	only thing you need to set is server address
04:33	kaeza	(and bot nick)
04:33	LimePool	kaeza, why do you prefer beer?
04:34	kizeren	lol
04:34	kizeren	dreambuilder errors out
04:34	VanessaE	kizeren: clone it and move the result into your minete..... what error???
04:34	kizeren	meh...
04:34	kizeren	tired.. misread.
04:35	kizeren	it is irc erroring out
04:35	VanessaE	what error?!?
04:35	VanessaE	oh
04:35	VanessaE	whew
04:35	kizeren	module 'socket' not found
04:35	VanessaE	do you use luajit>
04:35	VanessaE	?
04:35	kizeren	was there a pastebin package for ubuntu?
04:35	kizeren	some cli thing?
04:36	LimePool	is it possible to add aalib support to mt?
04:37	VanessaE	the reason I ask I ran into a Lua library cpath issue with luajit vs. minetest's install path vs. luasocket, I was only able to resolve it by adding an extra path element to luajit at compile time
04:37	VanessaE	aalib?
04:37	LimePool	lal
04:37	LimePool	its ascii render lib
04:39	LimePool	it would need hardcoding
04:39	VanessaE	oh right
04:40	kizeren	fricker irc keeping it from starting
04:40	LimePool	i want to see if its worth to waste time on
04:41	kizeren	how do I pipe minetest output to file?
04:41	VanessaE	you have to make sure your minetest server, luajit, and luasocket are all compiled and installed into the same $PREFIX
04:41	ShadowNinja	kizeren: Install LuaSocket.
04:41	LimePool	delete irc than...
04:41	kizeren	already install SN
04:42	ShadowNinja	kizeren: It should work then. Sysyemwide?
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04:42	kizeren	apt-get install luasocket
04:42	kizeren	apt-get install luajit
04:42	kizeren	both installed.
04:42	VanessaE	kizeren: what about minetest? where is it installed to?
04:43	ShadowNinja	kizeren: You need the 5.1 version of LuaSocket.
04:43	VanessaE	/usr or /usr/local ?
04:43	kizeren	run in place install
04:43	ShadowNinja	In arch it's lua51-socket.
04:43	VanessaE	ShadowNinja: only "lua-socket" in modern ubuntu.
04:44	LimePool	hmtouggh decision... ascii descent or ascii minetest?
04:44	VanessaE	(not sure about without the dash, must be a 12.04 thing)
04:44	VanessaE	LimePool: minetest of course
04:44	VanessaE	descent is old-hat.
04:45	LimePool	hehe
04:45	kizeren	hmmm
04:45	LimePool	well, this should be fun...
04:46	kizeren	ok
04:46	kizeren	apt-get install luasocket says it installs.
04:46	kizeren	when searching there is not a luasocket install.
04:47	VanessaE	kizeren: why 12.04 anyway?
04:47	kizeren	only chose I had
04:47	LimePool	i hope irrlihgf will like aalib or that not good....
04:47	VanessaE	couldn't download a 14.04 image?
04:47	ShadowNinja	kizeren: It will probably work with NON-JIT Lua.
04:47	VanessaE	oh rigfht, VPS
04:47	VanessaE	-f
04:48	ShadowNinja	kizeren: But a 5.1 version of socket would obviously be better.
04:48	kizeren	I have 5.1 installed
04:48	kizeren	apt-get install luasocket-dev
04:48	LimePool	i want a vps!
04:48	kaeza	or build luasocket from source and link against luajit
04:48	kizeren	ofcoures I probably misread it
04:49	kizeren	or find old version of mientest_irc :)
04:50	LimePool	i'm gonna go grab a worm
04:50	LimePool	*coffee lol
04:53	LimePool	my kindle is making highpitch quiet meows....
04:54	LimePool	ah probably the hddd
04:55	kaeza	the hddddddd?
04:56	VanessaE	hard disk drive's dying?
04:56	VanessaE	:P
04:56	LimePool	VanessaE: I have another goal
04:56	LimePool	lol it just stressed
04:57	VanessaE	what goal?
04:58	LimePool	typing oon is anoter naatter intirely
04:59	LimePool	first person that makes MT vids like they do MC ones
04:59	VanessaE	how do you mean?
05:00	kizeren	ok got luasocket installed how do I tell irc where to find it all at?
05:00	VanessaE	it should just work,
05:00	LimePool	like stampylonghead except MC
05:00	VanessaE	just start the server up.
05:01	kizeren	still complains about no socket.lua.....
05:01	LimePool	*MT
05:01	LimePool	tired tooo........
05:02	kizeren	hm...its in /usr/share but MT/lua not looking there.
05:06	kaeza	/usr/share ? O_o
05:07	kaeza	that's an odd location to store a lib...
05:08	kizeren	yea.
05:08	kizeren	maybe move it to /usr/local
05:08	kizeren	or ln -s it ?
05:08	kaeza	$ lua -e 'print(package.cpath)' # --> ./?.so;/usr/local/lib/lua/5.1/?.so;/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/lua/5.1/?.so;/usr/lib/lua/5.1/?.so;/usr/local/lib/lua/5.1/loadall.so
05:09	kizeren	VNC
05:09	kizeren	can't copy and paste :(
05:10	kaeza	you'll have to ln -s it into /usr/local/lib/lua/5.1/
05:10	kaeza	(or modify init.lua to search the directory)
05:12	kizeren	the irc init.lua?
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05:13	kaeza	yep
05:13	kaeza	also, this is getting annoying https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9356
05:14	kizeren	Hell
05:14	kizeren	I just pull HDD from old server and use old version of IRC mod.
05:15	kizeren	ok bed time for me.
05:15	kizeren	night all.
05:15	kaeza	night
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07:01	markveidemanis	~up marktwain.tk
07:01	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: marktwain.tk port 30000 is down
07:01	markveidemanis	~up 192.227.253.67
07:01	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: 192.227.253.67 port 30000 is up (664ms)
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07:06	markveidemanis	I seem to randomly lag on my server
07:06	Zeno`	hmm
07:06	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/9227718
07:07	markveidemanis	And I mean those strange glitches where everything stops for a bit
07:08	Zeno`	how many users?
07:08	markveidemanis	One
07:08	markveidemanis	Me
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07:10	jp__	Hello. How does for show the exact name of a node (as Nyan Cat Rainbow) ingame ?
07:11	jp__	I try to replace nodes with WorldEdit...
07:11	markveidemanis	try default:nyancat_rainbow
07:11	jp__	Thanks.
07:11	Zeno`	markveidemanis, I am connected but see nothing
07:12	markveidemanis	03:10:37: ACTION[ServerThread]: Moving zeno to static spawnpoint at (0,5.5,0)
07:12	Zeno`	I see nothing :)
07:12	Zeno`	should there be something there?
07:12	markveidemanis	Lets play on minimal :p
07:12	Zeno`	ok, see your minetest.conf?
07:13	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/9227718
07:13	Zeno`	most of those are defaults anyway, so I'd comment all of them out (apart from the obvious ones you need to keep) and then work back up, adding them as needed
07:14	Zeno`	a lot of those are client settings anyway... is this a multiplayer game or a dedicated server?
07:15	markveidemanis	Dedicated Server
07:15	markveidemanis	Or some VPS somewhere
07:16	markveidemanis	idk
07:16	markveidemanis	But i've concluded:
07:16	Zeno`	In that case stuff like anisotropic_filter = false should not be in the .conf file
07:16	markveidemanis	It's my mods problem
07:16	Zeno`	maybe... disable them one by one
07:17	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/9227835
07:19	markveidemanis	mods: http://pastie.org/9227851
07:23	Zeno`	I'm new as well, but I'd probably start with (taking your .conf as a start): http://pastie.org/9227884
07:23	Zeno`	and add the commented out things back as necessary
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07:23	nman3600	hi
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07:29	markveidemanis	Zeno`, Join 192.227.253.67
07:29	markveidemanis	~up 192.227.253.67
07:29	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: 192.227.253.67 port 30000 is up (330ms)
07:29	markveidemanis	ping is a bit high
07:31	Zeno`	isn't that a local IP?
07:32	markveidemanis	192.168 is local
07:32	markveidemanis	and some 10.12
07:32	Zeno`	oh duh
07:32	markveidemanis	I mean just 10.
07:32	Zeno`	anyway, I still see nothing
07:32	markveidemanis	look down and jump
07:32	Zeno`	can you grant me fly?
07:32	Zeno`	I can't even move
07:33	markveidemanis	256MB ram :P
07:33	Zeno`	/status gives me nothing either :(
07:33	markveidemanis	Try disabling camera update
07:33	markveidemanis	f4 i think
07:33	Zeno`	yep
07:33	Zeno`	nope
07:33	Zeno`	can you login to your shell?
07:33	markveidemanis	Yeah
07:34	Zeno`	what's free -h say?
07:34	markveidemanis	http://pastie.org/9228007
07:35	Zeno`	hmm that looks fine
07:35	markveidemanis	oh god it's this bug
07:35	markveidemanis	03:34:10: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(4/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 5 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)
07:35	Zeno`	your firewall is not blocking stuff is it?
07:36	markveidemanis	no firewall
07:37	Zeno`	you sure? iptables are disabled?
07:37	Zeno`	(they shouldn't be, but maybe for testing...)
07:37	markveidemanis	-bash: iptables: command not found
07:37	markveidemanis	I don't even know
07:39	Zeno`	service iptables status
07:39	Zeno`	^ that may or may not tell you anything depedning on your OS
07:39	markveidemanis	-bash: service: command not found
07:39	markveidemanis	:P
07:39	Zeno`	ok, it does nothing :)
07:39	markveidemanis	Debian wheezy it was
07:40	Zeno`	dunno :(
07:44	markveidemanis	How does atomicon.tk sound?
07:48	markveidemanis	starting apache may help
07:49	Zeno`	apache? why?
07:49	markveidemanis	There's me wondering why i couldn't connect
07:50	markveidemanis	atomicon is an awesome name
07:51	nman3600	true
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07:52	* markveidemanis	quickly registeres the comain
07:53	nman3600	!up minetest 85.1.67.73:30000
07:53	MinetestBot	nman3600: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
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07:53	nman3600	85.1.67.73 30000
07:53	nman3600	fail
07:53	nman3600	!up 85.1.67.73 30000
07:53	MinetestBot	85.1.67.73:30000 seems to be down
07:53	nman3600	:(
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08:15	nman3600	dude why am i banned from craigs server?
08:16	nman3600	CraigyDavi why am i banned from your server?
08:37	Zeno`	half the internet seems down
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08:52	nman3600	hey LemonLake
08:53	CraigyDavi	nman3600, Your not banned from my server...
08:54	nman3600	it said i was weird
08:54	CraigyDavi	Server lagged out. Should be able to join now
08:54	markveidemanis	I may have just shut down my server...
08:54	nman3600	nope
08:55	nman3600	CraigyDavi when i try to join: http://imgur.com/6T5VsE0
08:55	markveidemanis	:(
08:56	LemonLake	Hey
08:56	nman3600	Hey LemonLake
08:57	CraigyDavi	nman3600, Try now
08:57	LemonLake	What's the server IP?
08:57	LemonLake	If he's IP banned, I should be too
08:57	nman3600	i'm on now
08:57	LemonLake	Ah ok
08:58	nman3600	IP = craigd.24tails.com LemonLake
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10:04	LemonLake	In hud_change, if I was changing a 'number' would the value have to be string or a number?
10:06	LemonLake	Nevermind.
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10:09	nman3600	hai
10:13	CraigyDavi	hi
10:13	LemonLake	Hey
10:26	nman3600	just made 6 textures it was hard to do but it looks okay..
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10:30	markveidemanis	Can anyone connect to marktwain.tk 30000?
10:30	LemonLake	!up marktwain.tk 30000
10:30	MinetestBot	marktwain.tk:30000 is up (474ms)
10:30	markveidemanis	I know it's up but theres some texture and ping issue
10:30	LemonLake	Yep
10:30	markveidemanis	Doesn't mean you can connect
10:30	LemonLake	What version is the game?
10:30	markveidemanis	!up google.com 80
10:30	LemonLake	I'm on the latest from github atm, not sure if I can get the same one as you
10:30	markveidemanis	Compiled yesterday
10:31	LemonLake	Ah, okay, we should be on the same one
10:31	markveidemanis	Minetest is pretty flexible when it comes to cross-version things
10:31	LemonLake	Ah that's better
10:31	markveidemanis	Try connecting to it
10:31	LemonLake	This is the first server I've ever connected to on minetest
10:32	LemonLake	I've never actually played the game, always been making mods and stuff lol
10:32	markveidemanis	I bet it won't work lol
10:32	LemonLake	Did you get those messages?
10:32	markveidemanis	~up google.com 80
10:32	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: google.com port 80 is down
10:32	markveidemanis	:(
10:32	LemonLake	It doesn't use 80 I don't think
10:32	markveidemanis	last message
10:32	markveidemanis	06:27:17: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="marktwain" listening on 0.0.0.0:30000.
10:33	markveidemanis	I think you're on the wrong server
10:33	markveidemanis	:P
10:33	LemonLake	It downloaded media
10:33	LemonLake	But I don't think it connected
10:33	LemonLake	It's the domain
10:33	LemonLake	.tk uses iframes
10:33	LemonLake	so it thinks it's HTTP
10:34	markveidemanis	...
10:34	markveidemanis	No
10:34	LemonLake	Try something like dnsdynamic or noip
10:34	markveidemanis	No...
10:34	markveidemanis	You got it all wrong
10:34	LemonLake	You sure?
10:34	markveidemanis	.tk does not use iframes
10:34	markveidemanis	I use my own DNS services
10:35	markveidemanis	so You>>DNS>>Server
10:35	LemonLake	.tk used to, that's for sure.
10:35	LemonLake	Either way, I can't connect.
10:35	markveidemanis	Since you specify a different port it isn't HTTP
10:35	CraigyDavi	Neither I
10:35	markveidemanis	Maybe I mucked up the DNS...
10:35	markveidemanis	192.227.253.67
10:35	LemonLake	Oh
10:35	LemonLake	.tk has changed
10:35	LemonLake	A LOT
10:35	LemonLake	I last used it in like 2009
10:36	CraigyDavi	Still aint working
10:36	CraigyDavi	.tk is pretty bad
10:36	LemonLake	nman3600, connect to the LAN server, I wanna test something on Ace of Picks
10:36	LemonLake	+CraigyDavi
10:36	nman3600	k
10:36	LemonLake	Like I said, try something intended for it like dnsdynamic or noip
10:37	CraigyDavi	markveidemanis, do you have the IP instead?
10:37	LemonLake	^
10:37	nman3600	i forgot half of the IP D:
10:37	markveidemanis	192.227.253.67
10:37	LemonLake	192.168.1.66 nman3600
10:37	nman3600	ooh more people are joining i assume
10:37	markveidemanis	06:37:17: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(4/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 8 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)
10:37	LemonLake	No there are not.
10:37	markveidemanis	Yeah 3 of those
10:37	LemonLake	It's a lan server you idiot
10:38	nman3600	tru
10:38	CraigyDavi	markveidemanis, Not connecting markveidemanis
10:38	markveidemanis	~up
10:38	markveidemanis	06:37:17: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(4/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 8 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)
10:38	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: up address [ports]
10:38	LemonLake	Hmm markveidemanis, not sure what to do
10:38	markveidemanis	oops
10:38	markveidemanis	I'l assume it connects
10:38	LemonLake	It can be connected to, but nothing is actually sent
10:38	LemonLake	You in nman3600?
10:38	markveidemanis	And now?
10:39	LemonLake	Peer timed out, nman3600
10:39	nman3600	yes LemonLake what team?
10:39	LemonLake	Blue
10:41	markveidemanis	Try connecting now
10:41	LemonLake	In the middle of a gamemode test, sorry
10:41	markveidemanis	ok :(
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10:48	nman3600	i killed LemonLake many times :D
10:48	LemonLake	Yeah lol
10:48	LemonLake	That's the only FPS you'll ever beat me in
10:48	LemonLake	Come at me in CSGO
10:48	LemonLake	Come at me
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10:52	skittle_	heyu
10:52	nman3600	yoyo
10:52	LemonLake	Argh I hate GIMP so much
10:52	LemonLake	And Paint.net wont run in Wine
10:53	skittle_	gosh i got minetest on computer and im so confused
10:53	skittle_	also ve vanilla aintg there?
10:53	nman3600	what's confusing about pc minetest?
10:53	skittle_	that some servers arent there
10:53	skittle_	and also homedecor and more ores mods wint show to instal
10:54	skittle_	and ive been "shutting down stuff" for 10 mins
10:56	nman3600	lol some servers might not be there becasue they're offline
10:57	skittle_	vanilla is 24/7
10:57	skittle_	NEVER shuts down
10:57	* markveidemanis	calls bullshit on that one
10:57	skittle_	only at 10am for 30 seconds to reboot
10:57	markveidemanis	Exactly
10:58	skittle_	but its not shutting down
10:58	skittle_	its reeboting
10:58	skittle_	rebooting+
10:58	SylvieLorxu	Let me explain rebooting to you
10:58	markveidemanis	Its shutting down then shutting up
10:58	SylvieLorxu	It works like this:
10:58	markveidemanis	Unlike.../me stops
10:58	SylvieLorxu	1. Shup down
10:58	SylvieLorxu	2. Boots
10:58	SylvieLorxu	*Shut down
10:58	SylvieLorxu	DAMMIT I CAN'T SPELL
10:58	markveidemanis	lol worst time
10:59	nman3600	lol i can spell with spell check!
10:59	skittle_	forget this
10:59	markveidemanis	AUtocorrect is a pain in the grass
10:59	skittle_	im going to kiwi irc
10:59	markveidemanis	pahahahaa
10:59	nman3600	oh yes it it is markveidemanis but it's funny when looking at funny DAMN YOU AUTOCORRECTS on google
11:00	markveidemanis	yeah, done that
11:00	markveidemanis	try marktwain.tk 30000
11:00	markveidemanis	I swear it'll work
11:00	markveidemanis	i don't remember what I changed anymore but i bet it was good
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11:07	nman3600	heyo Lemonio
11:07	markveidemanis	Hi Lemon
11:07	markveidemanis	:(
11:07	nman3600	he's doing something idk what
11:07	* markveidemanis	gets ready
11:07	markveidemanis	Race to say hi!
11:07	nman3600	he won't join again
11:08	markveidemanis	:(
11:08	nman3600	not for a while i think
11:08	markveidemanis	nman3600, Try marktwain.tk 30000
11:09	nman3600	nope
11:09	markveidemanis	07:09:19: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(4/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 5 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)
11:09	markveidemanis	What the hell even is that?
11:09	nman3600	timeout
11:10	markveidemanis	Hmm...
11:10	markveidemanis	Too much media or wut?
11:10	nman3600	idk i can't join at all
11:10	markveidemanis	Same
11:10	nman3600	the "connecting to server" bar won't work
11:10	nman3600	it's not loading
11:11	nman3600	Hey mark (its Lemon)
11:11	nman3600	I'm on Windows right now, but since dual booting with Linux the internet is dead
11:11	markveidemanis	...
11:12	nman3600	I'll be back on Linux when I'm done making textures
11:12	* markveidemanis	doesn't question
11:12	nman3600	Btw, RealBadAngel
11:12	nman3600	Windows is SUPER SLOW now :L
11:12	nman3600	does mark understand that Lemon is my brother (this is nman back btw(
11:13	nman3600	markveidemanis i am Lemon's brother
11:13	markveidemanis	okay
11:13	markveidemanis	Gotcha now
11:14	nman3600	that's why he sent that message lol
11:14	nman3600	well those messages
11:16	* nman3600	makes a portal to the past to make fun of people who can't use technology!
11:16	nman3600	and who didn't have technology
11:17	markveidemanis	Just visit your gran
11:17	markveidemanis	Same effect
11:17	* nman3600	then teleports to dinosaur times to make dinosaur flavoured chocolate
11:17	* nman3600	slaps mark
11:18	* markveidemanis	slaps mark
11:18	nman3600	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqElmNxjVFg
11:18	nman3600	this is funny
11:19	markveidemanis	VanessaE, Can you help me? I can't work out what is going wrong
11:19	nman3600	mark did u watch it?
11:20	markveidemanis	http://atomicon.tk/marktwain_game/
11:20	markveidemanis	No
11:20	nman3600	it's funny
11:21	markveidemanis	:)
11:22	markveidemanis	I have no idea whan goes wrong
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11:25	markveidemanis	kaeza, My server works fine in minimal but only one user can connect in the proper game
11:26	kaeza	and that has to do with me because...
11:27	markveidemanis	Because you are a developer
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11:32	kaeza	lemme at least wake up
11:32	markveidemanis	okay
11:33	* markveidemanis	can't imagine what that could mean doing
11:33	* kaeza	got up but is still sleeping
11:33	markveidemanis	Could be worse the other way round
11:33	markveidemanis	sleepcoding
11:34	kaeza	stupid neighbor decided 8AM was a nice time to repair his car
11:35	* markveidemanis	got up at 8 :P
11:35	nman3600	same
11:35	markveidemanis	But i was excited for my new vps
11:36	nman3600	i always wake up early
11:38	* markveidemanis	has 8.8GB left
11:41	nman3600	mark i'm on your server
11:41	nman3600	but it wont load
11:41	nman3600	the map isn't loading
11:42	markveidemanis	Keep waiting
11:42	markveidemanis	It's the mods I'm using
11:43	kaeza	what mods are you using?
11:43	markveidemanis	Let me copy them over
11:43	markveidemanis	Or have i done that...
11:43	markveidemanis	marktwain.tk/marktwain_game/mods
11:43	markveidemanis	yeah
11:43	markveidemanis	minus the core folder
11:44	nman3600	the hud bar has just loaded
11:45	markveidemanis	07:42:53: ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(4/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 4 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)
11:45	markveidemanis	It's this error again
11:45	markveidemanis	I get this way too often
11:46	nman3600	ERROR[ConnectionSend]: con(4/1)RunTimeouts(): Peer 1 has timed out. (source=peer->timeout_counter)
11:46	nman3600	that's what i got
11:46	kaeza	dunno, ask someone who knows anything about that
11:46	* kaeza	goes back to sleep
11:47	Megaf	OlÃ¡
11:47	Megaf	That means, hello
11:47	markveidemanis	Hello Megaf
11:47	markveidemanis	Maybe you can help
11:48	markveidemanis	Let me just delete all of my mods and try again
11:48	Megaf	ok
11:48	markveidemanis	If you can connect now it's the map's fault
11:51	nman3600	i'm connecting
11:51	nman3600	map won't load
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11:53	nman3600	now i crashed
11:53	markveidemanis	:P
11:54	markveidemanis	Minetest is so reliable
11:54	nman3600	and i can't connect
11:54	Megaf	markveidemanis; I gtg, I will be back in 20 inutes, I think I know how I can help you
11:54	markveidemanis	Okay
11:54	* markveidemanis	gets excited
11:54	markveidemanis	...and deletes all mods
11:59	markveidemanis	nman3600, try now
12:00	nman3600	mark i was about to say tell me when join lol
12:00	markveidemanis	:P
12:00	nman3600	still won't load the map
12:00	markveidemanis	FUCKING HELL
12:01	markveidemanis	WHat's wring with minetest??!!
12:01	markveidemanis	Why do i only make bad typos when I'm angry?
12:01	nman3600	lol
12:02	markveidemanis	And now!?
12:03	nman3600	i can't believe ompldr.org has been shut down for good
12:04	markveidemanis	Join the server now
12:06	markveidemanis	node_ownership server tweaks vault
12:06	markveidemanis	One of those is bad
12:08	markveidemanis	Amaz_, The server restarted
12:08	markveidemanis	I can pastebin it if you want
12:09	nman3600	mark nope
12:10	markveidemanis	I bet it's some onjoin function
12:11	nman3600	!up marktwain.tk 30000
12:11	MinetestBot	marktwain.tk:30000 seems to be down
12:11	* Amaz_	has timed out
12:11	markveidemanis	INFO: sigint_handler(): Ctrl-C pressed, shutting down.
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12:14	Megaf	back
12:14	nman3600	wb
12:14	Megaf	[09:01:01] <markveidemanis> WHat's wring with minetest??!!
12:14	Megaf	The code
12:14	Megaf	anyway
12:15	Megaf	markveidemanis; is the server working now?
12:15	markveidemanis	idk, i'l try to start it
12:15	markveidemanis	It's running
12:16	Amaz_	I'm on.
12:17	markveidemanis	3 users then I'll believe it works
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12:22	nman3600	again map won't load mark
12:22	markveidemanis	Well it's crashed
12:23	markveidemanis	I mean hangs no
12:23	markveidemanis	*now
12:23	markveidemanis	Megaf, Did you have a solution?
12:23	Amaz_	I've timed out again?
12:23	markveidemanis	No, someone tried to connect and crashed it
12:24	Amaz_	Okay.
12:24	nman3600	mark it's probably me sorry idk what's causing it
12:24	Megaf	markveidemanis; pastebin?
12:24	markveidemanis	Pastebin what?
12:24	markveidemanis	I like pastebin
12:25	markveidemanis	Or are you going to pastebin?
12:25	Megaf	markveidemanis; you said your server crashed
12:25	Megaf	paste the crash
12:25	markveidemanis	Just didn't respong anymore
12:25	markveidemanis	No error
12:25	markveidemanis	Let me try the mods one by one...
12:26	markveidemanis	Actually I'l delete everything that won't corrupt my map
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12:30	LemonLake	Yo
12:30	nman3600	Hi
12:30	nman3600	MARK I BEAT YOU TO IT! YES
12:31	markveidemanis	markatom:/opt/minetest/games$ rm -rf *
12:31	markveidemanis	FUCK THIS
12:31	LemonLake	o god
12:31	LemonLake	he rm rf'd
12:31	LemonLake	it was nice knowing him
12:31	nman3600	?
12:31	LemonLake	rm rf removes the entire hard drive
12:32	markveidemanis	rubbish
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12:32	markveidemanis	fuck
12:32	markveidemanis	oops
12:32	LemonLake	Anyway
12:32	LemonLake	I made the textures
12:38	LemonLake	What's a single-word verb for 'killed with a shotgun'?
12:38	Amaz_	Shot?
12:38	LemonLake	Meh
12:39	kaeza	shotgunned? :P
12:39	LemonLake	Not sure about the character limit
12:39	LemonLake	Does 'shelled' sound weird?
12:39	kaeza	is 'gotblastedhisbrainsout' a word?
12:40	LemonLake	Probably in french or something
12:40	LemonLake	Oh I like blasted
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12:46	reactor	Hello.
12:46	LemonLake	Yo
12:46	reactor	Why does inventory disappear when you leave and join again?
12:46	LemonLake	It does?
12:46	reactor	It disappears until you restart the server.
12:46	LemonLake	Not an issue for me
12:48	LemonLake	nman3600: remind me to make a class choosing screen
12:48	LemonLake	because right now im just giving the players all guns to test them
12:48	nman3600	k i'll note that down
12:49	LemonLake	No need
12:49	LemonLake	Just remind me after we test
12:49	nman3600	K
12:50	nman3600	when're we testing?
12:50	LemonLake	When I've made sure it's error-free
12:50	nman3600	k
12:50	LemonLake	I test the errors, we test the gameplay
12:50	nman3600	kk
12:51	LemonLake	I've found a bug
12:51	LemonLake	The ammo counter doesn't always fill to the size of the gun clip
12:51	LemonLake	I've now got 30 bullets showing up no matter what :/
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12:55	reactor	Firearms turned out to be the problem.
12:55	LemonLake	Well there ya go
12:55	reactor	Health bar disappears, and inventory disappears on the second time.
12:55	reactor	But what does it have to do with inventory and health bar?
12:55	LemonLake	That'd be firearms_hud doing that
12:55	reactor	Yes.
12:55	kaeza	huh?
12:55	reactor	Does no one else use firearms anymore?
12:55	reactor	Yes yes kaeza.
12:56	LemonLake	I'm using it right now, reactor.
12:56	LemonLake	I'm making a game using it.
12:56	reactor	An it's working for you?
12:56	LemonLake	Yep.
12:56	LemonLake	Well, I'm using firearmslib
12:56	LemonLake	Heavily modified, mainly in the hud area
12:56	reactor	By the way, how did you solve the distance problem?
12:56	LemonLake	What distance problem?
12:56	reactor	The guns wouldn't hit father than 20 m.
12:56	LemonLake	That's a feature in the gun
12:56	LemonLake	range = 20
12:57	reactor	Regardless of whether it's a sniper rifle or pistol.
12:57	reactor	farther, even
12:57	LemonLake	Dunno, never had a problem.
12:57	LemonLake	nman3600 could hit me from 100 blocks away.
12:57	LemonLake	nodes*
12:57	nman3600	i could and killed him many times :D
12:57	LemonLake	^
12:57	kaeza	lol
12:57	LemonLake	Let's see how you kill me when I've finished adding the shotgun and assault rifle.
12:58	LemonLake	I might just troll you and fill the hud with bullets.
12:58	LemonLake	Btw, kaeza, I really love firearms :DD
12:58	LemonLake	It's sooo good
12:58	kaeza	glad you like it :)
12:58	reactor	Oh, also, the sound bug?
12:58	reactor	I like it, too. But I wich it worked more smoothly.
12:59	reactor	s/ch/sh/
12:59	* kaeza	should really get the new version in a working state
12:59	LemonLake	I have not ever heard of any of the problems you have
12:59	LemonLake	Ã¸.Ã¸
12:59	kaeza	reactor, sound bug?
12:59	LemonLake	The only problem I have is shooting with a sniper close range, but like in the first post you wouldn't use a sniper in close combat
12:59	reactor	Yes. The sounds don't attenuate.
12:59	LemonLake	I've modified the code quite a bit to fit the purposes of Ace of Picks
12:59	LemonLake	So it may have somehow fixed a few of the bugs
12:59	reactor	That is, you can hear someone reloading from 1 km away.
13:00	LemonLake	Oh.
13:00	LemonLake	The ogg files need to be mono, then include a position in sound.play
13:00	LemonLake	I'm fixing that myself now
13:00	kaeza	pls submit patch
13:00	LemonLake	I'll re-download it
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13:00	LemonLake	I don't use any of the sounds that come with it
13:01	LemonLake	Ã¸.Ã¸ kaeza, I can't even find the full sound_play code, do you literally just sound_play the filename?
13:02	LemonLake	Either way, I'm fixing it now.
13:03	LemonLake	Should the distance of hearing be a setting in register weapon?
13:03	Jordach	LemonLake, https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/jdukebox/init.lua#L227#
13:04	Jordach	LemonLake, https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/jdukebox/init.lua#L227 (even)
13:04	LemonLake	I know how to use sound_play, thanks.
13:04	Jordach	<- working out how to make a formspec based music player
13:04	LemonLake	I was asking kaeza if he literally just used the filename in sound play, no definition
13:05	LemonLake	holy fucking shit
13:05	LemonLake	you're using multiple definitions for each disc?
13:05	LemonLake	why not just use a for loop?
13:05	Jordach	minetest.sound_play("jukebox_track_2", <- requires a file named jukebox_track_2.ogg
13:05	Jordach	LemonLake, i did the same thing with tanks until i cleaned it
13:05	LemonLake	Just use a for loop
13:05	LemonLake	for i = 1, 8 do
13:06	Jordach	https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/commit/4a40a1c23df29ddda683518954c8e9258825e916
13:06	Jordach	there's the original tanks (which i eventually cleaned up)
13:06	LemonLake	Nman did a similar thing
13:06	LemonLake	He had 16 carpets, each had an individual definition
13:06	LemonLake	I had to teach him how to use a for loop >.<
13:07	Jordach	LemonLake, https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/blob/master/mods/tanks/init.lua
13:07	LemonLake	That's so much better
13:07	LemonLake	kaeza: I'm writing the patch now.
13:07	asie	Jordach: bonus points - automate the oil, water and lava into a for loop
13:07	asie	also
13:08	asie	local tank_type = "oil"
13:08	asie	if tank_type == "oil" then
13:08	asie	WHY
13:08	Jordach	orignally it was a function
13:08	asie	ooooh
13:08	Jordach	i never bothered de-intergrating it
13:09	LemonLake	minetest.sound_play(weapon_info.sounds.empty, {pos = player:getpos()})
13:09	LemonLake	that's all that was needed
13:10	reactor	kaeza: what is "cg72"?
13:10	LemonLake	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4562&p=143072#p143072
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13:13	nman3600	Look at this apple texture i made: http://imgur.com/me8Od0L http://imgur.com/T4Jgqyr
13:14	LemonLake	Not bad
13:14	nman3600	took me 20 mins lol
13:14	LemonLake	Took me 20 mins to switch to windows to make the shotgun and assault rifle textures >.<
13:14	reactor	looks good, but a bit too bright
13:14	LemonLake	^
13:14	LemonLake	Turn down the brightness but saturate it a little more
13:14	nman3600	kk
13:15	nman3600	slightly darker and saturated a bit more http://imgur.com/oDqHhEo
13:16	LemonLake	That's better
13:16	markveidemanis	Make the stork darker still
13:16	LemonLake	Don't make it darker
13:16	LemonLake	Just desaturate it a lot
13:17	reactor	LemonLake: action.lua? There is no action.lua!
13:17	LemonLake	firearmslib
13:17	LemonLake	that's where the actual firearms code is
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13:17	LemonLake	Yo hmmm
13:17	LemonLake	m
13:17	reactor	nothing there
13:17	Jordach	FUCKING DONE IT AGAIN
13:17	LemonLake	?
13:18	reactor	No action.lua in firearmslib.
13:18	Jordach	smashed my elbow on the standing speaker beside me
13:18	LemonLake	Reactor, you get a modpack when downloading firearms, right?
13:18	reactor	Uh-huh.
13:18	reactor	https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-firearms/tree/cg72/firearmslib
13:18	LemonLake	mt-firearms-master/firearmslib/action.lua
13:18	LemonLake	It's definitely in there.
13:18	LemonLake	Oh. You're on the git version.
13:18	LemonLake	I see.
13:19	LemonLake	https://github.com/kaeza/mt-firearms/tree/master/firearmslib
13:19	LemonLake	It's in master branch.
13:19	LemonLake	I'm sure kaeza can repatch it for cg72
13:19	nman3600	LemonLake: Random Reminder: Make a class choosing screen
13:19	LemonLake	Oh yeah
13:19	nman3600	lol
13:20	LemonLake	Still trying to do the hud doe
13:20	LemonLake	Apparently statbars are not alignable
13:20	nman3600	i'll remind you in a bit then maybe 10 mins
13:20	reactor	Well this is confusing.
13:20	LemonLake	I said
13:20	LemonLake	Remind me AFTER we test
13:20	nman3600	ik
13:20	reactor	Once they were minetest-firearms, now they are mt-firearms.
13:20	LemonLake	Reactor, I have no clue what version you're on
13:20	LemonLake	But it's not the one I'm using in Ace of Picks, that's for sure
13:21	LemonLake	Ah
13:21	LemonLake	minetest-firearms is the old version
13:22	reactor	Yes. But why is there no warning anywhere?
13:22	LemonLake	Warning?
13:22	LemonLake	It's on the forum post.
13:22	LemonLake	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562
13:22	LemonLake	"Rewritten from scratch using a more modular design."
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13:23	reactor	http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130710154045/cardfight/images/thumb/6/60/Facepalm.png/463px-Facepalm.png
13:23	LemonLake	Is your head a balloon?
13:23	reactor	Why ever link to an old, deprecated version?
13:24	LemonLake	Read the mod posting rules.
13:24	reactor	I don't know what made me do it, but I got the old link.
13:24	LemonLake	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1271
13:24	reactor	Last time I visited the page.
13:24	LemonLake	"Always do this in the existing topic of the mod. It is recommended to update the first post, but leave old download links available, and also post a release notice in the topic."
13:25	Jordach	rolling release ftw
13:25	LemonLake	Kaeza was simply following the rules
13:25	LemonLake	Not trying to make it more complicated
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13:28	Jordach	fun fact: most of my mods use CamelCase
13:29	Jordach	>:D https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig/commit/17069dcb358eb5cff74b0b788f7a3333e77fc3d0#diff-1bd948199f566cf69a852f68128ab971R23
13:29	nman3600	idk if i should base my texture on one style of many different styles
13:29	nman3600	texture pack*
13:30	LemonLake	-1 for incorrect use of camelCase
13:30	Jordach	fuck the police
13:30	LemonLake	It's either UpperCamelCase or lowerCamelCase
13:31	LemonLake	lowerCamelCase is more conventional for c-based languages
13:31	LemonLake	In lua though, we_use_this mostly
13:31	LemonLake	(what's the name of that?)
13:31	nman3600	ik what to name my texture pack :)
13:31	LemonLake	Name it 'cows with ploughs'
13:32	nman3600	no i'm naming it multistyles
13:32	nman3600	it'll have different styles of textures
13:32	reactor	Plough experience/
13:32	LemonLake	But cows with ploughs is fucking brilliant
13:33	reactor	it should fertilise the soil on the way
13:33	LemonLake	use some clever hacks
13:33	LemonLake	every time the texturepack is loaded, one grass block is replaced with fertilized soil
13:34	* kaeza	slaps_Jordach_with_underscores
13:35	LemonLake	btw kaeza, I posted the patch to the forum
13:35	LemonLake	Just 3 lines were changed ^.^
13:35	kaeza	:\|
13:35	* reactor	pokes-kaeza-with-dashes
13:35	kaeza	reactor, too much Lisp
13:35	reactor	Define "too much Lisp"?
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13:37	LemonLake	http://pastebin.com/EWZCcaPP
13:37	LemonLake	GUess what I'm learning.
13:38	jp__	What's the exact name of the snow block, please ?
13:39	jp__	There is a list of the exact names of nodes ?
13:39	LemonLake	default:snowblock
13:39	LemonLake	minetest_next(game)/nodes.lua
13:39	jp__	Thanks
13:39	reactor	jp__: you can look up in .lua files.
13:40	reactor	I've already suggested an ingame nodename listing or search feature.
13:40	jp__	No time for that. A webpage who show alist would be better.
13:40	LemonLake	I'll add one to the dev wiki now.
13:40	jp__	Great !
13:40	LemonLake	It will take a long time
13:41	LemonLake	Might just automate it :P
13:41	LemonLake	Screw that though
13:41	LemonLake	http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Nodes Be patents, will arrive suune
13:42	reactor	patents
13:42	jp__	useful
13:43	LemonLake	I'll make it in Excel then import it to the mediawiki table generator
13:43	LemonLake	LibreOffice Calc*
13:43	markveidemanis	~up marktwain.tk
13:43	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: marktwain.tk port 30000 is up (512ms)
13:43	LemonLake	Dat lag doe
13:43	markveidemanis	~up marktwain.tk
13:43	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: marktwain.tk port 30000 is up (344ms)
13:43	markveidemanis	:(
13:44	reactor	~up -1
13:44	ShadowBot	reactor: -1 Error. Invalid address?
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13:47	LemonLake	air and ignore are inbuilt, yes?
13:49	markveidemanis	09:47:47: VERBOSE[ConnectionReceive]: con(4/1)WARNING: ACKed packet not in outgoing queue
13:49	markveidemanis	09:48:33: VERBOSE[ConnectionSend]: con(4/1)RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 94.197.121.113(t/o=1.332): from_peer_id=1, channel=0, seqnum=192
13:49	markveidemanis	found the real errors
13:49	markveidemanis	first one spams a lot
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13:57	LemonLake	jp__: halfway through minimal
13:57	jp__	? doesnt understand
13:57	LemonLake	Making the node list
13:57	LemonLake	I'm halfway through minimal
13:58	jp__	ah
13:59	nman3600	testing time??
13:59	LemonLake	If you haven't read, Niall, I'm working on a wiki page right now.
13:59	LemonLake	And I still haven't got the HUD to work right.
13:59	nman3600	ok
14:02	nman3600	!up minetest.ntdll.net 30000
14:02	MinetestBot	minetest.ntdll.net:30000 is up (76ms)
14:02	nman3600	yay!
14:02	LemonLake	?
14:02	nman3600	google the ip
14:02	LemonLake	No, I'm in the middle of a LibreOffice doc here.
14:02	LemonLake	I don't leave sexy applications.
14:02	nman3600	Krock's Ultimative Platform
14:04	reactor	kaeza:
14:05	reactor	I found a bug in irc mod. A typo.
14:05	reactor	password = self.config.password, not pass = self.config.password,
14:05	reactor	in init.lua.
14:05	reactor	It wouldn't connect to a passworded server.
14:11	LemonLake	jp__: Do you want more blocks than just those in minimal?
14:11	LemonLake	Because I've just finished minimal
14:11	jp__	Hmm... MoreBlocks too.
14:12	jp__	Please.
14:12	LemonLake	Oh, you want mods too?
14:12	LemonLake	Okay.
14:12	LemonLake	That will take some more time, I'll add & save minimal then download moreblocks
14:12	jp__	Just minimal if you prefer.
14:13	LemonLake	I can do moreblocks
14:14	LemonLake	http://dev.minetest.net/Nodes
14:14	LemonLake	Making moreblocks now
14:14	nman3600	LemonLake i need a page like that perfect thanks!
14:15	jp__	Can you add small icons in your table ? It will be more easier to find something...
14:15	LemonLake	Shit, that will require a script
14:16	LemonLake	I might make a separate page for just textures
14:16	LemonLake	It'll be textures with the name under them
14:16	LemonLake	I'll have an updated one for minetest_next to
14:16	LemonLake	too*
14:16	LemonLake	Okies, adding icons
14:17	jp__	Not necessary, eh...
14:17	LemonLake	Why not just use CTRL +F?
14:17	jp__	Yeah, why not.
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14:22	OdinAllfather	what happened to inchran
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14:25	omarsgifford14	hey guys
14:25	LemonLake	hey
14:25	omarsgifford14	the isis.inchra.net is not working
14:26	omarsgifford14	not for me is it a problme in my network or is it because of something else?
14:26	Jordach	omarsgifford14, digitalaudioconcepts.com goes to the same place
14:26	LemonLake	For some people, it is down
14:26	omarsgifford14	oh ok
14:26	LemonLake	The domain itself is down, but it may be cached in your area
14:26	LemonLake	Thats why others can get on
14:26	LemonLake	digitalaudiococepts.com also goes there
14:27	Jordach	<VanessaE> hunterx689: in other words, the phone book is misplaced, but if you remember the phone numbers you want to call, those still work.
14:27	omarsgifford14	i am guessing i am (some of those people
14:27	Jordach	<VanessaE> You have a central building (DNS root server) that distributes phone books (DNS records) to various offices in your town (your local DNS servers). You have call or visit your local office to use their book (make a DNS query) and write down the number you need, or you bring a book home with you (run your own DNS caching server) and look the records up yourself, then make your phone calls as needed (contact the IP addresses and
14:27	Jordach	send/receive
14:27	omarsgifford14	hey vanessa
14:27	Jordach	those are quotes
14:27	omarsgifford14	i have a question
14:27	omarsgifford14	oh
14:27	LemonLake	omars, what's your question?
14:27	omarsgifford14	i need a mod to give nate123 privs
14:28	omarsgifford14	on free for all server
14:28	omarsgifford14	i was trying to get in touch with vanessa through irc
14:30	Jordach	nate can wait
14:30	Jordach	<- doesn't even have power there...
14:30	Jordach	apparently I DO HAVE THE POWER!
14:31	LemonLake	I HAVE THE POWER
14:31	LemonLake	I'VE GOT THE POWER
14:32	jp__	Somebody have tried the maps that I posted ? https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=12
14:32	reactor	So apparently firearms_hud is causing the problem.
14:32	LemonLake	That is what I said
14:32	reactor	Even for mt-firearms.
14:34	reactor	When you switch to the gun, the health bar disappears. Then when you quit and join you don't see anything.
14:35	LemonLake	The table is buggered for the moreblocks one, jp_
14:35	LemonLake	It won't export properly
14:35	nman3600	jp__ i'm testing your starwars map now
14:36	jp__	If you remarks / reports to do, don't hesitate.
14:36	omarsgifford14	thanks jordach and everybody
14:36	jp__	The import process is not perfect.
14:36	LemonLake	Can't save the table, jp__
14:36	LemonLake	I'll just make an image for it
14:37	jp__	That's already great.
14:37	jp__	Thank you ;)
14:40	LemonLake	http://dev.minetest.net/Nodes
14:41	LemonLake	nman3600: Looking at the HUD thing now, hopefilly I can fix it then we can test.
14:42	nman3600	LemonLake k
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14:46	rubenwardy	Hi all!
14:46	LemonLake	Hey!
14:46	CraigyDavi	Hi
14:50	kaeza	reactor, where?
14:50	LemonLake	Apparently the internet went down.
14:50	LemonLake	But I'm still on it.
14:50	reactor	kaeza: what where? The typo? In IRC mod. By the way, it stopped working.
14:50	reactor	Latest version crashes the server.
14:51	markveidemanis	How do I force the map to save?
14:51	kaeza	(password)
14:51	LemonLake	Become a suerhero
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14:51	LemonLake	superhero*
14:51	Jordach	>CRYENGINE >C++ APIs >Lua APIs
14:51	reactor	kaeza: line 101
14:51	Jordach	shots fored
14:51	Jordach	fired*
14:52	kaeza	reactor, are you using latest version?
14:52	reactor	yes, latest git
14:52	kaeza	this is line 101: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc/blob/master/init.lua#L101
14:52	markveidemanis	Now we wait for 120 sec for the map to save...
14:53	reactor	I looked in the wrong place.
14:53	reactor	Line 83.
14:53	kaeza	wait, misread that
14:54	kaeza	so, s/pass/password/ ?
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14:54	reactor	kaeza: yes
14:58	rubenwardy	Stronghold 1 time!
14:58	rubenwardy	http://steamcommunity.com/id/rubenwardy/
14:58	rubenwardy	btw
14:59	kaeza	reactor, https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc/commit/56a5de4a91750d5fe7944735551094b9f0496e34
15:00	kaeza	thanks for spotting that :)
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15:00	reactor	I'm mike402 there, by the way :)
15:00	reactor	At your service!
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15:01	LemonLake	Hey
15:04	Jordach	and this is the first time i ever saw reactor in a good mood
15:04	LemonLake	rofl
15:05	reactor	Heheh. Well, I'm so most of the time, but it's hard to notice.
15:06	Jordach	s/most of the time/ up my own ass to be like that/
15:06	Jordach	:P
15:07	reactor	Yep.
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15:09	nman3600	STUPID INTERNET CRASHES
15:09	LemonLake	It never crashed.
15:09	LemonLake	It was just the wireless.
15:09	nman3600	ik but mine crashed fully my shockwave stopped
15:09	LemonLake	I never had an issue because I'm on ethernet
15:10	LemonLake	Shockwave?
15:10	LemonLake	'crashed fully'
15:10	LemonLake	The internet does not 'crash'
15:10	LemonLake	Yes, but why was he using SHOCKWAVE?
15:10	LemonLake	That's so 1990s
15:10	nman3600	i'm on CHROME
15:10	LemonLake	<nman3600> ik but mine crashed fully my shockwave stopped
15:10	LemonLake	'crashed fully'
15:10	LemonLake	Once again, the wireless just went down.
15:11	nman3600	Chrome needs it for most things
15:11	LemonLake	The router and the internet were fine.
15:11	LemonLake	Chrome does not need Shockwave.
15:11	reactor	You broke the Internet.
15:11	LemonLake	Shockwave isn't even downloadable anymore I don't think.
15:11	LemonLake	Or at least it never works anymore.
15:11	nman3600	no it does when i got chrome it came with it
15:11	LemonLake	...
15:11	LemonLake	Oh, do you mean FLASH?
15:11	LemonLake	Shockwave != Flash
15:11	nman3600	YES FLASH SHOCKWAVE
15:12	LemonLake	No, that's just adobe being super lazy to rename their plugin container.
15:12	LemonLake	It's just Flash.
15:12	reactor	"Shockwave Flash"
15:12	LemonLake	Chrome does not depend on Flash.
15:12	LemonLake	Some websites do.
15:12	LemonLake	Chrome does not.
15:12	LemonLake	The internet did not crash.
15:12	LemonLake	The wireless went down.
15:12	reactor	So I commented out hud in firearms -- no disappearance anymore.
15:12	LemonLake	Bloody hell Niall
15:13	LemonLake	Reactor: or just take out firearms-hud
15:13	reactor	Tried that, the game would crash.
15:13	LemonLake	o.o
15:13	LemonLake	Okay then
15:13	reactor	Yep.
15:13	reactor	Idk, it's more realistic not to count the bullets for the player anyway :)
15:13	reactor	s/the bu/bu/
15:13	sfan5	meow
15:13	sfan5	hi everyone
15:13	LemonLake	I'm having issues with my own hud
15:14	omarsgifford14	hi
15:14	reactor	But I'm glad the workaround was as easy as it was.
15:14	* nman3600	strokes sfan5
15:14	LemonLake	I have to reload for the count to update when I switch gun
15:14	reactor	It's really much better than the old version.
15:14	* sfan5	meows at nman3600
15:14	omarsgifford14	ok bye :)
15:14	* LemonLake	meows at a foot
15:14	* omarsgifford14	will be back later :)
15:14	LemonLake	Okay cya
15:15	* omarsgifford14	awake!
15:15	* reactor	barks at a hand
15:15	LemonLake	Roxy does that.
15:15	* omarsgifford14	is sick of talking to himself in third person
15:15	omarsgifford14	XD
15:15	* LemonLake	suggests that omarsgifford14 does not do it in the first place
15:15	omarsgifford14	haha
15:15	omarsgifford14	ok see ya gtg guys bye
15:16	omarsgifford14	XD
15:16	LemonLake	BEOAiugoie
15:18	* kaeza	pets sfan5
15:18	reactor	What are those solid blocks in the air?
15:18	* sfan5	purrs at kaeza
15:18	Megaf	VanessaE; pipeworks needs to know who am I to git pull
15:19	VanessaE	not true.
15:19	Megaf	From https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks
15:19	Megaf	ee47216..476a60b master -> origin/master
15:19	Megaf	*** Please tell me who you are.
15:19	LemonLake	git config
15:19	VanessaE	gitHUB needs to know.
15:19	VanessaE	pipeworks doesn't care
15:19	LemonLake	Megaf
15:19	LemonLake	you need to git config or whatever
15:19	LemonLake	you're not 'signed in'
15:19	Megaf	http://paste.debian.net/102246/
15:20	Megaf	VanessaE; I just updated all my other mods
15:20	LemonLake	Megaf
15:20	Megaf	with git pull
15:20	LemonLake	Once again, follow the instructions they give you.
15:20	LemonLake	Sign in with git config.
15:20	LemonLake	Are you ignoring me?
15:20	VanessaE	Megaf: it's not pipeworks, it's github
15:20	LemonLake	VanessaE, can you quote me to Megaf please?
15:21	VanessaE	Megaf: do what LemonLake, stop ignoring him
15:21	VanessaE	what he said I mean
15:21	VanessaE	now, why github wants you to sign in at all, I don't know
15:21	LemonLake	I don't think you can anonymously push
15:21	VanessaE	if you have to, just delete pipeworks and re-clone it
15:22	VanessaE	he's trying to pull, not push
15:22	LemonLake	Oh...
15:22	LemonLake	That's messed up but may as well do it anyway
15:22	reactor	Speaking of the need to reload, LemonLake. It appears in the original mod, too.
15:22	VanessaE	Megaf: you probably cloned pipeworks via SSH
15:22	LemonLake	Reactor, I have automatic reloading in mine?
15:22	VanessaE	that's probably why github wants you to sign in
15:22	VanessaE	so just delete the repo and re-clone it over https
15:22	LemonLake	It's just that the ammo count doesn't update on weapon change like it should
15:23	reactor	yep
15:23	LemonLake	I don't think weapon change is even called
15:23	LemonLake	But it's no big deal really
15:23	reactor	Also, what's with that delay when you pull the trigger?
15:23	LemonLake	I'm sure kaeza is fixing all this
15:23	LemonLake	Reloading delay I think
15:23	reactor	Feels rather sluggish.
15:23	LemonLake	Yeah
15:23	LemonLake	With no warning that it's reloading or anything
15:23	reactor	The old mod didn't do that.
15:23	reactor	I mean, while trying to shoot.
15:24	LemonLake	When you reload, you can't shoot immediately?
15:24	reactor	The delay between the moment you click and it actually shoots.
15:24	LemonLake	I have no delay
15:25	reactor	interesting
15:25	markveidemanis	~up marktwain.tk
15:25	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: marktwain.tk port 30000 is up (1531ms)
15:25	markveidemanis	fucking hell
15:25	markveidemanis	no
15:25	markveidemanis	~up marktwain.tk
15:25	ShadowBot	markveidemanis: marktwain.tk port 30000 is up (344ms)
15:25	markveidemanis	some lag
15:27	reactor	Oh, also the new version does not affect mobs.
15:27	reactor	The old one did.
15:28	LemonLake	http://pastebin.com/BggQ7XLA
15:29	LemonLake	As long as it's a luaentity, it should
15:29	LemonLake	Oh nvm
15:29	LemonLake	Yes, yes, as long as its a luaentity it should except for items
15:29	reactor	Thank you!
15:30	LemonLake	For what?
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15:32	reactor	Ah, it's already there.
15:32	reactor	Still nothing.
15:40	LemonLake	nman3600: nearly done
15:40	nman3600	LemonLake: Okay
15:41	reactor	No, it actually works.
15:41	reactor	The bullets are underpowered damage-wise.
15:41	LemonLake	They're not underpowered, they're just insanely innacurate
15:41	reactor	At least regarding simplemobs and zmobs.
15:41	reactor	That might be the case, too.
15:42	LemonLake	nman3600: adding sounds
15:47	reactor	If an entity is hit, it should universally blink?
15:50	reactor	Regardless of where I shoot them, mobs don't blink.
15:56	nman3600	K lemonLake
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16:04	reactor	Well I've just tried 1024 pellets.
16:04	reactor	Shotgun. Still not hitting mobs.
16:04	LemonLake	reactor: I don't know
16:04	LemonLake	What mob moda re you using?
16:04	reactor	They just go through them.
16:04	reactor	simplemobs by pilz
16:04	LemonLake	How close up are you?
16:05	reactor	pilzadam, sorry
16:05	reactor	tried a wide range of distances
16:05	Calinou	1024 pellets?!
16:05	reactor	yes
16:05	reactor	players die instantly
16:05	Calinou	that causes huge server lag propbably
16:06	Calinou	do Simple Mobs even have an handler?
16:06	LemonLake	A handler?
16:06	Calinou	arrows in throwing mod can hit them
16:06	LemonLake	For what?
16:06	Calinou	(but no drop if they die due to an arrow)
16:06	reactor	yep, there were no drops with old firearms
16:06	LemonLake	I honestly have no clue at this point
16:07	Calinou	does it drop items of mobs when they die?
16:07	LemonLake	Mobs don't die
16:07	reactor	it doesn't even hit them
16:07	LemonLake	That's the point
16:07	reactor	pellets pass through
16:07	Calinou	<reactor> yep, there were no drops with old firearms
16:07	Calinou	â€œoldâ€
16:07	LemonLake	Yes, old.
16:07	LemonLake	It was rewritten.
16:08	* Calinou	looks
16:11	* Calinou	tries editing some arrow code to make them go through water and such
16:11	LemonLake	Arrow code?
16:11	LemonLake	What do arrows have to do with any of this?
16:11	Calinou	nothing
16:12	Jordach	Calinou, get nodetype, if liquid group, ignore
16:18	Calinou	if node.drawtype ~= "airlike"
16:18	Calinou	and node.drawtype ~= "plantlike"
16:18	Calinou	and node.drawtype ~= "torchlike"
16:18	Calinou	and node.drawtype ~= "liquid"
16:18	Calinou	and node.drawtype ~= "flowingliquid" then
16:18		Calinou was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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16:18	Calinou	what's wrong with this?
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16:19	Calinou	http://0bin.net/paste/dZoxUGvHSZuvlfjK#DnIwZmvLZNzaKc5BNS1T88zo8u/W4WZLUayaXGbwQyI=
16:21	Calinou	local pos = self.object:getpos()
16:21	Calinou	local node = minetest.get_node(pos)
16:21	Calinou	add these two lines before
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16:23	Calinou	â€œif node.walkable == true thenâ€ doesn't work either
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16:33	jp__	How does for disable the burning property of the fire, plz ?
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16:36	Calinou	jp__, disable_fire = true
16:36	Calinou	in minetest.conf
16:36	jp__	Merci ;)
16:40	markveidemanis	I think I fixed marktwain.tk
16:40	markveidemanis	it should work
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16:52	rubenwardy	Back!
17:00	Calinou	wb rubenwardy
17:00	rubenwardy	XD
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17:02	Krock	Hi.
17:07	Krock	inchranet is down.
17:08	Krock	and most players seem to be too
17:09	CraigyDavi	Krock, use shadowninja.minetest.net or digitalaudioconcepts.com to connect.
17:12	Krock	k ty
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17:20	Krock	Calinou, is vmanip lavacooling much faster than default?
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17:20	Calinou	no idea
17:20	Calinou	but it fixes sound spam
17:21	Calinou	and has logging (in Carbone)
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17:27	reactor	Bullets with negative damage don't do anything?
17:27	reactor	I wanted to make a medic gun.
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17:29	Calinou	no :(
17:29	Calinou	can't set negative damage_per_second either
17:29	reactor	Oh, actually they do.
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17:49	Calinou	19:49:40 [:~/.minetest/games/carbone] master Â± grep -r "minetest.env"
17:49	Calinou	nothing that's not in .git
17:53	whiskers75	OK
17:53	whiskers75	Apparently this Czech computer is 'downloading the box (0:30 remaining)'
17:54	PenguinDad	lol
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18:04	* PenguinDad	slaps Youtube
18:05	Youtube	ouch!
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18:25	nman3600	hi
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18:28	nman3600	hey LemonLake r we gonna test yet?
18:29	LemonLake	In aminute
18:29	LemonLake	Gotta rename some node
18:29	nman3600	k
18:31	Calinou	hi nman3600
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18:31	nman3600	heyo Calinout
18:31	nman3600	Calinou*
18:32	jp__	What about the TB-TT, nman3600 ?
18:32	nman3600	jp__ can't seem to get it to work
18:33	nman3600	what are the mods for it?
18:33	jp__	The mods are included into the .zip file.
18:35	Calinou	jp__, en franÃ§ais, attention Ã l'usage du mot Â« qualitatif Â»
18:35	Calinou	;)
18:35	Calinou	on peut dire Â« une Ã©tude qualitative Â» mais pas Â« un matÃ©riel qualitatif Â» pour dire Â« un matÃ©riel de qualitÃ© Â»
18:35	nman3600	testing now jp__
18:36	jp__	Hmm... pourtant j'ai bien "qualitatif" dans le dico anglais.
18:36	jp__	"Better quality" alors.
18:36	Calinou	je parle de l'usage du mot
18:36	Calinou	oui
18:36	jp__	Oui je vois...
18:37	jp__	Merci pour la remarque.
18:37	Calinou	bye
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18:39	nman3600	jp__ all i see is a giant drone thing and that's it
18:39	jp__	... The TB-TT ;)
18:39	jp__	as indicated in the title.
18:39	nman3600	idk what it means?
18:39	nman3600	OMG NMAN YOU DONT KNOW STARWARS
18:40	nman3600	Holy crap my brother is missing out on life.
18:40	jp__	Model of the war machine you see : TB-TT.
18:40	nman3600	btw that was lemonlake
18:40	nman3600	okay
18:40	Calinou	when you reply to questions, don't diss other people
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18:41	LemonLake	nman
18:42	LemonLake	you seriously dont know starwa
18:42	LemonLake	rs
18:42	nman3600	no i'm not a HUGE fan of it
18:42	LemonLake	i hate you
18:42	nman3600	well fu*k of then
18:42	jp__	Maybe too young for the old episodes ? ;)
18:42	LemonLake	Oh come on
18:43	LemonLake	everyone knows starwars
18:43	nman3600	off*
18:43	LemonLake	It's part of society now
18:43	LemonLake	Niall
18:43	LemonLake	You tell me to fuck off once more and I'm gonna put that head of yours right through your laptop screen
18:43	nman3600	i'm halfway through doing that
18:44	Calinou	woah, don't attack each other
18:44	nman3600	lol
18:45	Calinout	i always call you Calinout Calinou
18:45	Calinout	so now i am Calinout lol
18:45	LemonLake	niall
18:45	Calinout	yes
18:45	LemonLake	If you type Cal then press tab, it comes up with Calinou
18:46	Calinout	press tab again and you get Calinout
18:46	markveidemanis	Hey Calinout
18:46	LemonLake	Correct
18:46	Calinout	Hey mark
18:46	markveidemanis	Hey LemonLake
18:46	LemonLake	Hey markveidemanis
18:46	markveidemanis	My server's up!
18:46	LemonLake	Awesome!
18:46	markveidemanis	marktwain.tk 30000
18:46	Calinou	don't impersonate
18:46	markveidemanis	Got one loyal player already
18:46	LemonLake	Yes Calinout, don't impesronate.
18:46	nman3600	LOL
18:46	LemonLake	markveidemanis: I might start playing
18:46	nman3600	i changed b4 u said that
18:47	LemonLake	But I'm real busy right now
18:47	Calinou	bye
18:47	nman3600	so it's not aimed at me
18:47	markveidemanis	how do we know it's really Calinou now?
18:47	LemonLake	Cya
18:47	Calinou	markveidemanis, /ns info Calinou
18:47	Calinou	logged in
18:47	LemonLake	markveidemanis: By /ns info
18:47	LemonLake	Whoa
18:47	LemonLake	I just got a huge delayt
18:47	nman3600	LemonLake testing time?
18:47	LemonLake	Shut your face, I said when I'm ready.
18:48	markveidemanis	No, by whois
18:48	markveidemanis	But yeah
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18:48	Calinou	whois, yeah
18:48	realtinymonster	hi
18:48	LemonLake	It was DEFINITELY ns info before.
18:48	Calinou	hi realtinymonster
18:48	realtinymonster	Medaicrush has a secret
18:48	LemonLake	And still is.
18:48	realtinymonster	*mediacrush'
18:48	Calinou	MediaCrush has a crush with your media
18:48	LemonLake	I want to know said secret.
18:48	LemonLake	Oh shit.
18:48	Calinou	</pun>
18:48	LemonLake	But that's my wife
18:49	realtinymonster	LemonLake: go to main page and press up up down down left right left right ba
18:49	realtinymonster	:D
18:49	LemonLake	The Konami Code?
18:49	LemonLake	It's ba enter.
18:49	realtinymonster	yup
18:49	realtinymonster	no
18:49	realtinymonster	not there
18:50	LemonLake	Main page?
18:50	LemonLake	Of what?
18:50	realtinymonster	mediacru.sh
18:50	LemonLake	Oh that's not a secret.
18:50	realtinymonster	well, its funny
18:50	LemonLake	I type the konami code in every website I go in, it's kinda an addiction
18:50	realtinymonster	lol
18:51	LemonLake	I might re-run portal again today! :D
18:51	realtinymonster	yay portal!
18:51	realtinymonster	portal 1 is awesome
18:51	LemonLake	Played the entire thing yesterday, and the day before and the day before
18:51	LemonLake	(portal)
18:51	realtinymonster	sadly, i don't have 2
18:51	realtinymonster	lol
18:51	LemonLake	And last week I replayed portal 2 for the ninth time
18:51	LemonLake	I practically speedrun them now
18:52	realtinymonster	record yourself :P
18:52	LemonLake	I'd have to go to windows.
18:52	LemonLake	Which I cbf to do.
18:52	LemonLake	I've done it twice in the past four hours. It's a horrible experience.
18:52	Calinou	https://gitorious.org/calinou/carbone/commit/730597d7d75184ee4d140d2995f808b09d384d84#mods/mobs/api.lua
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18:53	Calinou	woah, Gitorious diff uses same colours as GitHub diff
18:53	realtinymonster	wow!
18:53	realtinymonster	that is SO surprising </sarcasm>
18:53	LemonLake	Calinou, I'm pretty sure they all use the same
18:54	LemonLake	https://bitbucket.org/LemonLake/ace-of-picks/commits/0796a675559f7babf6c12a510811addec195f386
18:54	LemonLake	Bitbucket has exactly the same
18:54	Calinou	yeah, but font is different
18:54	LemonLake	They're all monospace.
18:54	LemonLake	So it doesn't matter.
18:54	Calinou	realtinymonster, most people expect different services to look different :P
18:54	LemonLake	If it's git, I expect it to look the same.
18:54	LemonLake	(cough) github (cough)
18:54	Calinou	only BitBucket is translated to French however
18:55	realtinymonster	hehe
18:55	LemonLake	nman3600 nearly done
18:55	LemonLake	gonna cheev-run portal once again after we tested, i've added classes and we've tested again
18:57	realtinymonster	All y'all think I should get Garry's Mod?
18:57	LemonLake	Definitely.
18:57	LemonLake	Play my map.
18:57	realtinymonster	sure
18:57	LemonLake	http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=253570339
18:58	LemonLake	That one.
18:59	realtinymonster	well, i don't have it yet...
18:59	LemonLake	I don't care lol
18:59	LemonLake	jk jk
18:59	realtinymonster	lol
18:59	LemonLake	All I'm waiting for now is for Sips to play it
18:59	LemonLake	Then every youtuber I've subscribed to who plays prophunt has played it
18:59	realtinymonster	hehe
18:59	realtinymonster	cool
19:00	Jordach	LemonLake, ;)
19:00	LemonLake	Hmm?
19:01	Jordach	reload steam ;)
19:01	LemonLake	Gotta start it up :P
19:02	LemonLake	There
19:02	LemonLake	:D
19:02	realtinymonster	LemonLake: https://github.com/snaptortoise/konami-js
19:03	LemonLake	I'm aware.
19:03	LemonLake	I have used it many times
19:03	realtinymonster	ah, fun
19:03	realtinymonster	LemonLake: nothing gets past you, does it?
19:04	LemonLake	Everyone in a race.
19:06	Megaf	Thats new to me
19:06	Megaf	16:03:36: ERROR[ServerThread]: suspiciously large amount of objects detected: 3 in (4,0,7); removing all of them.
19:06	Megaf	I set the number to 0 or 1
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19:06	Megaf	:P
19:06	Megaf	Its just interesting the word "suspiciously"
19:09	Vazon	brb
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19:13	PyCli7203	Hello! In order to talk to this person (PyCli7203), You need to highlight him, like so: "PyCli7203: <MESSAGE>"
19:13	realtinymonster	Hello PyCli7203
19:14	realtinymonster	PyCli7203: Hi!
19:14	LemonLake	I think it's a bot
19:14	PyCli7203	Hello!
19:14	realtinymonster	nope!
19:14	realtinymonster	its not
19:14	LemonLake	sure?
19:14	realtinymonster	its a shitty minimalistic client
19:14	realtinymonster	made by me
19:14	LemonLake	rofl really?
19:14	realtinymonster	yeah
19:15	realtinymonster	it only lets you say stuff if people highlight youXD
19:15	Krock	PyCli7203, hai
19:15	PyCli7203	Herro!
19:15	Megaf	PyCli7203: woof
19:15	PyCli7203	meow!
19:15	LemonLake	Why that?
19:15	Krock	I didn't use ::
19:15	Krock	eh
19:15	Megaf	PyCli7203: why you no ctcp? [16:15:05] -*- Megaf sending CTCP-VERSION request to PyCli7203
19:16	realtinymonster	I don't know what it says
19:16	realtinymonster	hold on
19:16	Megaf	actually you dont even need an irc client
19:16	Megaf	you can connect using telnet
19:16	LemonLake	^
19:16	Megaf	!g telnet irc
19:16	MinetestBot	Megaf: http://oreilly.com/pub/h/1963
19:16	Megaf	!title
19:17	MinetestBot	Megaf: IRC Over Telnet
19:17	Megaf	see?
19:17	realtinymonster	yeah
19:17	Krock	lol
19:17	Krock	irc over telnet..gonna try that
19:17	realtinymonster	i know
19:17	realtinymonster	i've done that before
19:18	Krock	M$ Telnet>
19:18	realtinymonster	if you search the logs for "TelnetIsAwesome"
19:18	realtinymonster	you will find me
19:19	Megaf	!g telnetisawesome
19:19	MinetestBot	Megaf: https://inconsolation.wordpress.com/2014/05/26/telnet-the-fundamental-tool-for-entertainment/
19:19	Megaf	!title
19:19	Megaf	!title
19:19	MinetestBot	Megaf: telnet: The fundamental tool for entertainment \| Inconsolation
19:20	Megaf	bot down
19:20	realtinymonster	lol
19:21	Megaf	imagine that, minetest telnet edition
19:21	Megaf	I would play that
19:22	Jordach	HELL NO
19:22	Jordach	HELL FUCKING NO
19:22	realtinymonster	Megaf: ctcp version MaudBot
19:22	realtinymonster	lol
19:22	realtinymonster	Jordach: Lol
19:22	Megaf	realtinymonster: no reply
19:22	realtinymonster	i know
19:22	realtinymonster	I was seeing what format I need
19:22	realtinymonster	hold on
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19:23	realtinymonster	lol
19:23	realtinymonster	quit!
19:23	realtinymonster	its annoying!
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19:24	Megaf	[16:23:38] * Received CTCP-CLIENTINFO answer from ChanServ: PING VERSION CLIENTINFO
19:24	Megaf	[16:23:45] * Received CTCP-VERSION answer from ChanServ: atheme 7.0.7. 1bc5b086ff841eb47e4f009c93c3e612005ad953 services. ceFjtR [ircd-seven] Build Date: Feb 11 2014
19:24	LemonLake	nman3600 i think its done
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19:25	Krocktest	haiii
19:25	* Triis	looks around...
19:25	Krocktest	:)
19:25	LemonLake	nman3600:
19:25	Krocktest	using telnet
19:26	Krocktest	biutut it doesn't work well ... hard to read messages
19:27	realtinymonster	hehe
19:27	Krock[Telnet]	?
19:27	Krock[Telnet]	version?
19:27	realtinymonster	yeap
19:27	realtinymonster	hehe
19:27	Krock[Telnet]	wut?
19:27	realtinymonster	nothing
19:28	LemonLake	nman3600, just adding medkist
19:28	Krock[Telnet]	there'sno version
19:28	Krock[Telnet]	PING :sendak.freenode.net
19:29	Krock[Telnet]	qwwhoopiese
19:29	Krock[Telnet]	can't delete written chaaracters
19:30	LemonLake	kaeza: TIL that firearms has medkits included
19:38	LemonLake	nman3600: join
19:39	reactor	Medkits ruke!
19:39	reactor	rule, even
19:39	reactor	No more need to call cooked rat a medkit.
19:39	realtinymonster	lol
19:40	Krock	Anyone wanna come to my confirmation tomorrow?
19:40	Krock	xD
19:40	realtinymonster	confirmation?
19:40	Krock	church stuff
19:40	realtinymonster	Can't i'm other the other side of the world
19:41	realtinymonster	i would if i could
19:42	reactor	Oh yeah yeah. Me, too.
19:42	Amaz_	Lutherean?
19:47	LemonLake	nman3600 join now
19:52	Enke	realtinymonster: hop on #gitpack
19:52	realtinymonster	ok
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19:55	LemonLake	kaeza: nman just managed to shoot me while I was underground
20:02	nman3600	yep
20:04	realtinymonster	are heart rendered right next to eachother? or is there whitespace between?
20:04	realtinymonster	*hearts
20:04	LemonLake	Right next to each other.
20:04	realtinymonster	awesome
20:04	LemonLake	If there's a gap, it's done in heart.png
20:04	realtinymonster	ok cool
20:05	realtinymonster	thanks LemonLake
20:05	LemonLake	np
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20:19	LemonLake	nman3600: what's next for ace of picks?
20:25	LemonLake	https://bitbucket.org/LemonLake/ace-of-picks/commits/bc340c9b5f9e4b1e8f4359f5e1290fd5da1045c3
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20:36	kaeza	LemonLake, can you please fix the indentation of the source file (or post a diff) ?
20:37	kaeza	you're using 3 space indent, while mt-firearms uses tabs
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20:50	kaeza	LemonLake, I fixed all those whitespace errors, but the diff is now empty
20:50	kaeza	are you sure you pasted the correct stuff?
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21:01	fireglow	Sokomine: hi!
21:02	Sokomine	hi fireglow :-)
21:02	nman3600	Hey Sokomine how are you?
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21:04	LemonLake	Hey hey everypony
21:04	nman3600	heyooo
21:04	nman3600	lo
21:04	LemonLake	Kaeza, I edited the source file in gedit
21:05	LemonLake	It was just three lines.
21:05	nman3600	LemonLake did u get my query?
21:05	LemonLake	Hold on nman3600
21:05	kaeza	pls rm -f gedit kthxbai
21:05	LemonLake	Kaeza, I was in a rush
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21:05	LemonLake	I wanted to show you how to use sound_play
21:05	kaeza	sudo apt-get install geany ;)
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21:05	LemonLake	I use sublime
21:06	fireglow	RealBadAngel: do you know if unified_inventory is compatible with freeminer?
21:06	kaeza	LemonLake, anyway, I see no changes in your code
21:06	LemonLake	There are three clear line changes
21:07	kaeza	git diff is b0rked then
21:07	LemonLake	Wait
21:07	LemonLake	UUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH
21:07	LemonLake	Copy & paste is borked.
21:07	LemonLake	In every minetest.sound_play, add , {pos = player:getpos()}
21:07	LemonLake	I'm sure you can figure out how
21:08	kaeza	I was expecting a patch, but oh well
21:08	* kaeza	notes in TODO.txt
21:09	LemonLake	It's three lines, kaeza
21:09	LemonLake	Can you not do it now?
21:09	kaeza	too lazy :P
21:09	LemonLake	I'll get the file from git and edit it.
21:09	LemonLake	Pull request?
21:12	LemonLake	There's a pull request
21:13	kaeza	blarghargh already done
21:13	LemonLake	Close it then
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21:18	jp__	Hello. Exact name for the black wool plz ?
21:19	LemonLake	default:wool_black I think
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21:19	LemonLake	let me look
21:19	jp__	wool:black
21:19	jp__	Thanks ;)
21:19	LemonLake	im not sure
21:19	LemonLake	its probably wrong
21:19	jp__	That's it.
21:19	jp__	No, just tried now. That's it
21:20	LemonLake	Looked at the wool mod
21:20	LemonLake	It's wool:black
21:20	jp__	yep
21:23	Piggybear87	OK, I'm starting from scratch. I know the steps to download/compile BUT What's all the extra stuff in the readme? Like enable_curl and such? Also, "make -j2" is actually "make -j<cores+1>" (in my case still j2) Correct?
21:24	jp__	G'night all ;)
21:24	kaeza	Piggybear87, yes
21:24	kaeza	and the extra stuff, you pass to cmake
21:25	kaeza	like `cmake -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 -DENABLE_CURL=1 -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1`
21:25	Piggybear87	Do I list it, like "build_client enable_curl" etc?
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21:25	Evan_	hi
21:25	kaeza	no, see above
21:26	kaeza	hi Evan_
21:26	Evan_	hi
21:26	Piggybear87	Ah, gotcha. So everything is either 1 or 0 and starts with "-"
21:27	kaeza	if you have access to a GUI, you can use cmake-gui to easily set options
21:28	Piggybear87	So I would need to download cmake gui?
21:28	kaeza	most of the stuff is either '1' to enable, or '0' to disable, but not everything
21:29	kaeza	and begins with "-D" (-DFOO=BAR)
21:29	kaeza	and yes, I recommend using cmake-gui if you aren't too comfortable using the command line
21:30	Piggybear87	I'm getting there, but not there yet. Lol.
21:30	kaeza	(it comes prepackaged under Windows IIRC, but you have to install separately under Linux)
21:31	LemonLake	Are you compiling on Linux piggybear?
21:31	Piggybear87	Yes.
21:31	LemonLake	You shouldn't need to install anything
21:31	LemonLake	http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
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21:31	LemonLake	The first command gets it all for you
21:31	PenguinDad	for some reason cmake-gui doesn't work for me but I prefer the command line ;)
21:33	Piggybear87	Wait. What do I put in "minetest-minetest-<here>
21:34	Piggybear87	version number
21:37	LemonLake	Where?
21:37	PenguinDad	Piggybear87: it's "make -j<cores>" not "make -j<cores+1>"
21:38	Piggybear87	"cd minetest-minetest-<here>"
21:38	LemonLake	$ cd minetest-minetest-286edd4 (or similar)?
21:38	LemonLake	That's the name of the folder where the minetest source was extracted
21:38	Piggybear87	I was told cores + 1. So single core would be j2, quad would be j5, etc
21:38	LemonLake	I just used j2 >.<
21:39	LemonLake	brrrrrrrb
21:39	pitriss	PenguinDad: youre wrong.. make -j cores+1 is correct:)
21:40	pitriss	or better make -j<cores>*<threads>+1
21:40	Piggybear87	So I need to look in /usr/bin (I think) to get what to put there?
21:40	PenguinDad	that would be -j19 for me O_o
21:40	LemonLake	Piggybear
21:40	LemonLake	Just do j2
21:40	LemonLake	it's fine
21:41	LemonLake	You have 18 cores? :o
21:41	LemonLake	Piggybear, do you want me to give you instructions in a query?
21:41	LemonLake	So you don't get so confused
21:42	PenguinDad	LemonLake: I have 3 cores and 6 threads
21:42	LemonLake	Li
21:42	LemonLake	Oh
21:42	LemonLake	Meh
21:42	Piggybear87	So, I just looked and it's 0.4.9-248-g832d797 So "cd minetest-minetest-0.4.9-248-g832d797" Or do I need the .jar and such also?
21:43	LemonLake	Is that the one you downloaded from git just now?
21:43	Piggybear87	Yes. I believe.
21:43	LemonLake	Cd to that
21:43	LemonLake	then do cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
21:43	pitriss	PenguinDad: on my i7 it is j9 :)
21:43	LemonLake	Finally, do make -j2
21:44	LemonLake	(compiling for linux is soooooooooo easier than windows)
21:44	Piggybear87	Wait... Do I need the ".jar.gz" also or no?
21:44	pitriss	PenguinDad: eh i mean threads per core:)
21:44	LemonLake	It's tar.gz
21:44	LemonLake	not jar.gz
21:45	LemonLake	No, don't worry about that
21:45	LemonLake	If you have the source you can ignore all that
21:45	Piggybear87	Ok. Brb.
21:46	Piggybear87	Defuq? It says it's not there.
21:46	LemonLake	Type cd min then press tab
21:46	LemonLake	It should autocomplete
21:47	Piggybear87	Thanks, did not know that...
21:47	LemonLake	:P
21:47	LemonLake	Windows can do it too
21:47	LemonLake	I think mac can also
21:49	kaeza	gzip'd jar!
21:49	LemonLake	haha
21:50	kaeza	seriously though, jar uses zip compression, which sucks :P
21:52	Exio4	PenguinDad: what is your cpu?
21:53	Exio4	also, I think you meant cores*(threads-per-cores) + 1?
21:54	PenguinDad	Exio4: I actually meant 3 modules and 6 threads
21:54	realtinymonster
21:54	Exio4	:D
21:54	Piggybear87	Does this look right? cmake -DBUILD-CLIENT=1 -DENABLE-CURL=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1 -DRUN-IN-PLACE=1
21:54	Exio4	PenguinDad: what cpu, still
21:55	Jordach	things to buy: L4D2
21:55	Exio4	bulldozer, vishera?
21:55	Exio4	>buy >l4d2
21:55	Exio4	you could have got it for freez
21:55	kaeza	Piggybear87, use underscores '_', not hyphens '-'
21:55	PenguinDad	Exio4: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor
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21:55	Piggybear87	So RUN_IN_PLACE?
21:55	Exio4	>.<
21:56	kaeza	yep
21:56	Piggybear87	Ok.
21:56	kaeza	Piggybear87, also, -DBUILD_CLIENT=1 is not needed, as that's the default
21:56	Exio4	that is six cores PenguinDad
21:56	Exio4	not three modules
21:56	LemonLake	Piggybear
21:56	Exio4	all phenom cores are equal cores
21:57	LemonLake	Piggybear87: You're making your life SO hard. Just do "cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1"
21:57	Piggybear87	Too late. It's working. :)
21:58	Piggybear87	After this is done I do the minetest_game part, correct?
21:58	PenguinDad	It's a bit too late for my brain to work reliable
21:58	LemonLake	Don't worry about the minetest_game part, piggybear
21:58	LemonLake	Just get minetest_next or whatever you want and put it in /games/
21:58	kaeza	R.I.P. minetest_game D:
21:59	Piggybear87	I want the default game. I like it and mod it more to my liking.
21:59	LemonLake	Okay.
21:59	LemonLake	Hence 'whatever you want'
21:59	LemonLake	But don't bother with the one it says on the wiki.
21:59	LemonLake	Just get one from the forums or whatever
22:00	Piggybear87	Wow, already at 17%... That extra 0.3Ghz helps!
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22:02	Piggybear87	Holy crap! 35%. It took almost an hour to complete on my other computer...
22:03	Exio4	what cpu?
22:03	Piggybear87	I can't believe going from a 2.70 Ghz P4 to a 3.0Ghz P4 is that much faster...
22:03	Exio4	generation changes
22:03	Exio4	or is it a same-gen P4?
22:04	Piggybear87	Believe it's the same generation. Actually the 3.0 is older I think.
22:04	LemonLake	It took two hours on this same computer in MSVC
22:05	LemonLake	only to get 96 errors and 364 warnings
22:05	Piggybear87	Lol.
22:05	LemonLake	On linux it took three minutes to compile and everything, and it works better than PC.
22:05	LemonLake	Because on PC, in place of most lua errors the game would just crash with no error
22:05	LemonLake	I actually get errors now
22:06	Piggybear87	Gah... ALL COMPUTERS ARE "PCs"!!!!!
22:07	realtinymonster	not really
22:07	Jordach	LemonLake, the only time i don't get a lua traceback is when minetest.set_node(pos, <must be a table>) fails
22:07	Piggybear87	"PC" Stands for "Personal Computer". I hate the Mac VS PC commercials.
22:08	realtinymonster	Piggybear87: there are servers, those aren't PCs; there are supercomputers, those aren't PCs
22:08	realtinymonster	lol
22:08	LemonLake	Piggybear
22:08	Jordach	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/pTYUo3BCqJ8A.png HOLY
22:08	LemonLake	A PC is usually meaning a Windows.
22:08	LemonLake	Mainly because a Mac is not exactly the same as a PC becuase it's weird like that.
22:08	LemonLake	Even in the Mac VS PC commercial
22:09	LemonLake	s
22:09	Piggybear87	Holy hell Jordach! Who has a monitor that damn powerful??
22:10	LemonLake	You mean 1070p?
22:10	LemonLake	1080*
22:10	LemonLake	Oh, 4k?
22:10	Piggybear87	No. Click his link.
22:10	LemonLake	I'm currently in a comment war about this.
22:10	LemonLake	It's not for monitors. It's mainly for televisions.
22:10	LemonLake	But people do have 4k monitors.
22:10	LemonLake	Sometimes they're in a quad setup, other times it's an entire monitor
22:11	LemonLake	It can be just high DPI
22:11	Piggybear87	My 1080P feels so obsolete...
22:12	Piggybear87	So, who wants to send me a graphics card so I can have sky in Minetest?
22:13	realtinymonster	PCI?
22:13	Piggybear87	Yes.
22:14	Piggybear87	I'm on integrated and my opengl is 1.3 max and I need a higher version.
22:14	Piggybear87	Annnnnd I'm poor...
22:15	realtinymonster	lol
22:15	realtinymonster	HOW poor?
22:15	realtinymonster	you have 10 bucks?
22:19	LemonLake	Time to play more portal
22:19	realtinymonster	yay! porta!
22:19	Piggybear87	How poor.... I have no job and a 3 month old daughter... That's how poor. All my "extra money" goes to diapers and such.
22:20	Piggybear87	Testing if this worked. Brb.
22:20	Exio4	john_minetest: what was your cpu?
22:23	Exio4	:(
22:26	kaeza	you scared him
22:26	* kaeza	randomly hugs Exio4
22:27	* Exio4	licks kaeza
22:27	kaeza	<3
22:27	* realtinymonster	gives kaeza a beer, seeing that he likes them better than wine
22:28	Piggybear87	Yay! It worked!
22:28	realtinymonster	Piggybear87: i feel for ya
22:28	Piggybear87	It's hard, but I wouldn't trade it for the world.
22:29	realtinymonster	yeah
22:30	kizeren	Lol....I don't even use HD of any type.
22:30	Piggybear87	Looking for a job, but no takers yet... Fingers are crossed. :)
22:30	realtinymonster	what kind?
22:30	realtinymonster	and where?
22:31	LemonLake	Dang piggybear87, bad on you
22:31	LemonLake	Feeling for ya
22:31	Piggybear87	Anything in pinellas florida.
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22:31	realtinymonster	< Omega_Guardian> Yoshi raised Mario...then Mario grew up and started using him as a homicide trampoline
22:31	realtinymonster	lol
22:32	Piggybear87	Lmfao!
22:32	LemonLake	true dat
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22:32	realtinymonster	< Gambit> ^
22:32	realtinymonster	< enchilado> ^
22:32	realtinymonster	<+yoho139> >
22:32	realtinymonster	< redstonehelper> v
22:32	realtinymonster	<+yoho139> #minecraft, now with DDR.
22:32	realtinymonster	lol
22:33	LemonLake	mineCRAFT?
22:33	realtinymonster	sure
22:33	realtinymonster	lol
22:33	realtinymonster	i have nothing against MC
22:33	realtinymonster	except their use of OpenAL
22:33	Piggybear87	Afk
22:33	realtinymonster	lo
22:33	LemonLake	I don't wanna sound hipster or anything but I honestly got bored of it when it became popular
22:34	Jordach	wtf ShadowBot
22:34	Jordach	where did you're paste flood stop working
22:34	Jordach	when*
22:34	realtinymonster	it didn't
22:34	LemonLake	because they were separate messages
22:34	realtinymonster	yup
22:34	Exio4	a
22:34	Exio4	b
22:34	Exio4	c
22:34	PenguinDad	I have no reasons for minecraft
22:34	Exio4	d
22:34	Exio4	e
22:34		Exio4 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
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22:34	LemonLake	brrrrrrrrb
22:35	realtinymonster	gah!
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22:39	MinetestBot	GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Add success and output return values to chat commands e7706593c6 2014-05-28T18:36:46-04:00 http://git.io/bjJpFQ
22:39	LemonLake	Oh it got added
22:39	LemonLake	neat
22:39	LemonLake	Does that mean I have to recompile again
22:40	realtinymonster	not nececarrily
22:40	realtinymonster	unless you want to be super duper up-to-date
22:40	LemonLake	I know, I just love keeping up to dat tho
22:40	LemonLake	I think every 3 commits I'll recompile, unless it's major
22:40	Exio4	LemonLake: recompiling usually takes waay less than compiling from scratch fwiw
22:40	LemonLake	Exio4
22:40	Exio4	unless it is a major change, actually ;P
22:40	LemonLake	I never use the right terminology, but I know what I mean
22:41	LemonLake	It's a problem I have.
22:41	realtinymonster	English: where you can physically be a number
22:41	Exio4	git pull; time make -j7
22:41	Exio4	problem solved
22:41	realtinymonster	hehe
22:41	realtinymonster	you make time
22:41	realtinymonster	:P
22:42	Exio4	didn't think it that way
22:42	realtinymonster	as in you time the program make
22:42	realtinymonster	lol
22:43	realtinymonster	Exio4: 'I am ten' is grammatically correct
22:44	Jordach	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=8396&p=143134#p143134
22:45	realtinymonster	oh boi
22:45	realtinymonster	i think i started an argument...
22:46	LemonLake	Jordach
22:46	LemonLake	Can I cheat? I think I know by steam :P
22:46	Jordach	no
22:46	Jordach	that's barred
22:46	LemonLake	Aww
22:46	Jordach	<- hint, i still see the delete post button
22:46	LemonLake	You've been playing it, thats how I know
22:50	Jordach	LemonLake, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/PJzMsF2gfgPc.png
22:50	LemonLake	aww
22:50	LemonLake	but I know the game D:
22:50	LemonLake	Anyway, night
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22:55	realtinymonster	SoniEx2: !
22:57	SoniEx2	???
22:57	realtinymonster	hi
23:00	kaeza	:\|
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23:15	Vazon	can anyone figure out how to make this just show one chat line? http://pastebin.com/HpAmQdMY
23:16	realtinymonster	Vazon, remove teh enters
23:16	realtinymonster	or what?
23:16	* realtinymonster	didn't click
23:17	Vazon	?
23:18	realtinymonster	i didn't muster up the effort to copy the link paste it into my HTTPS-izer copy it from there and paste it into IE
23:18	realtinymonster	MONITOR!
23:21	realtinymonster	!rainbow rainbow rainbow rainbow
23:21	MinetestBot	4r4a4i7n7b7o8w8 8r3a3i3nbow6 6r6ainb4o4w
23:21	realtinymonster	there be 111 people in this channel!
23:26	* Jordach	is still waiting for his headset to arrive
23:26	Jordach	>Delivery expected by: 30th May 2014
23:27	realtinymonster	oooh, what kind?
23:27	realtinymonster	Thats the same day that MK8 is out!
23:27	Jordach	http://www.ebuyer.com/615036-thermaltake-shock-gaming-headset-blue-4717964390189
23:28	ShadowNinja	Vazon: chatmessage:find("\n", 1, true) and sub()? But there are better ways to do that substitution, see the IRC mod's expandvars (it might be only in old versions)
23:29	Vazon	ok thanks i will look there, its getting quite annoying seeing to chats in game
23:37	Jordach	>you need to buy the full version for amplification >engage the torrenter
23:37	realtinymonster	lol
23:37	Jordach	>installer from the company, wants to install AVG >nope.avi
23:40	Vazon	ShadowNinja how would you put that in to the code?? i cant seem to get it to activate
23:40	Jordach	>sfan5 >playing ZZ Top >usually listens to other shit that i can't pronounce
23:41	ShadowNinja	Vazon: What exactly are you trying to do?
23:42	ShadowNinja	~give Vazon pastebin.com
23:42	ShadowBot	Vazon: Don't use pastebin.com. Use a sane pastebin like http://bpaste.net, https://dpaste.de, https://gist.github.com, http://sprunge.us, http://ix.io, http://fpaste.org ...
23:42	Jordach	ShadowNinja, add paste.debian.org
23:42	Vazon	the chat shows like this to the player <name> message, then it says [rank] name: message. i want it to just so the second one
23:42	Jordach	(in fact i prefer that as they can enfore 80 char limits as well as other useful stuff)
23:43	Vazon	i did its above
23:43	Vazon	<Vazon> can anyone figure out how to make this just show one chat line? http://pastebin.com/HpAmQdMY
23:43	Vazon	ooo never mind hold on
23:44	Vazon	ShadowNinja: https://dpaste.de/VfuA
23:47	ShadowNinja	Vazon: Try something like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7540116/.
23:47	ShadowNinja	Vazon: Oh, you can't do that.
23:48	Vazon	can't do what?
23:48	ShadowNinja	Vazon: Minetest uses client-side prediction for chat messages. And I generally dislike thinks that show off how good someone else is.
23:49	Vazon	so i cant fix that?
23:49	ShadowNinja	That's why we don't have a dozen ops in here. They have the capability, but they don't show it off.
23:49	ShadowNinja	Correct.
23:49	Vazon	mhmm ok
23:50	stormchaser3000	ShadowNinja: (offtopic) what server and channel are all the servers on?
23:52	Vazon	and it doenst show off how good someone is, it jsut shows the players who are all the ops are on the server
23:53	ShadowNinja	stormchaser3000: Same as before. Use shadowninja.minetest.net to connect though.
23:53	Jordach	meow :3
23:54	ShadowNinja	Vazon: It shows off who has power though.
23:54	Vazon	yes, its no different then players joining and you having to tell them who is all staff
23:57	VanessaE	ShadowBot: question: if this map (where I worldedited and got those huge numbers of entities as a side effect) migrates successfully, can I trust it?
23:57	VanessaE	ShadowNinja: ^^^^^^
23:57	VanessaE	tab complete FAIL
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