Time Nick Message 00:28 ShadowNinja ~seenany arsdragonfly 00:28 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: I saw arsdragonfly in #minetest 2 days, 0 hours, 25 minutes, and 18 seconds ago quiting (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:30 ShadowNinja ~tell arsdragonfly Please don't create bump comments on pull requests (or issues). Especially not five in an hour. 00:30 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K. 00:36 WindHero there, now things are as they should be in moontest: 00:36 WindHero torches can NOT be lit in a vacuum :P 00:37 Megaf WindHero; it depends on its composition 00:37 Megaf it would have some oxide 00:38 WindHero still, the oxide would get burnt up pretty quick without oxygen to supplement it 00:38 Megaf oxide is oxygen... 00:38 WindHero kinda 00:38 WindHero I meant outside oxygen 00:38 ShadowNinja s/oxygen/air/ 00:38 WindHero :P 00:39 WindHero OK, so I blundered there xD 00:39 Megaf air is mostly nitrogen 00:39 Megaf that thing they fill your chips bags with 00:39 WindHero I'm more of a mechanical science guy 00:39 Megaf Ok, back to work on my mod 00:41 WindHero regardless, it gives people a reason to use the light-crystal torches I put in 01:11 kaeza could somebody try connecting to 186.51.167.76 for a test? 01:13 ShadowNinja kaeza: What kind of test? 01:20 kaeza ShadowNinja, xban 01:23 ShadowNinja ~up 186.51.167.76 01:23 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 186.51.167.76 port 30000 is down 01:23 ShadowNinja kaeza: ^ 01:23 kaeza ShadowNinja, took it down already. It seems to work ok 01:30 Megaf wow 01:31 Megaf I just found a way to cut in half the size of textures 01:31 Megaf at least it works well on high res textures 01:31 Megaf get a texture, lets say, 128x128 01:31 Megaf and resize it to 128x64 01:31 Megaf without croping it] 01:32 Megaf minetest then will strech it back 01:38 OldCoder OldCoder> Hello. Has the core been changed to access player files differently? 01:38 OldCoder For example, is any sort of readdir loop used? 01:43 ShadowNinja Megaf: Well obviously that makes it smaller, but it halves the horizontal quality. 01:44 zat VanessaE: it worked perfectly, an abm instead of plantslib:growwhatever 01:44 Megaf yep 01:44 Megaf works well for highres textures 01:44 Megaf s/for/with 01:57 VanessaE zat: of course it worked, that's because *I* suggested it ;) 02:09 zat omfg yea 02:18 zat VanessaE: I pass a local var with table data to moretrees:grow_jungle_tree(pos) and it arrives nil 02:18 zat ever happened this to you? 02:20 zat ok I think that I found the problem... 02:21 VanessaE yes I've seen that happen before 02:21 VanessaE not sure why though 02:21 zat how do I call a static member with []? I mean... a:b() call it like a["b"] 02:21 zat a["b"] is equal to a.b 02:21 VanessaE maybe because of my stupid use of xxxxx: instead of doing xxxxx. 02:21 VanessaE (colon instead of period) 02:22 zat is there any reason for that? 02:22 zat I am not sure... are : for static members of classes? 02:22 zat (I know nothing of Lua) 02:22 VanessaE : is syntactic sugar for another way of making calls/refs 02:23 zat I am changing it then 02:23 VanessaE I just used that way because it's easier to read :) 02:23 zat I am changing the code so plants_lib becomes optional, is that right? 02:23 VanessaE yes but keep it to a separate commit 02:23 VanessaE (if you can) 02:23 zat I am going to send it the source so you diff it locally 02:24 VanessaE just fork it and put it on github 02:24 VanessaE make a pull request and I'll be able to see the differences :) 02:24 zat do I need a github account for that? 02:24 VanessaE yes 02:24 zat damn it 02:25 zat I dont want to have one! 02:25 VanessaE it's free and easy to do 02:25 zat I am bored of having to make an account for nearly everything 02:25 zat I have my own git server... 02:25 VanessaE you could do that too as long as I can see the changes somewhere :) 02:26 VanessaE as long as I can git pull xxxx 02:26 zat I am uploading it then to mine 03:33 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9315&p=142165#p142165 03:33 zat I use it lol 03:47 VanessaE and...synced to dreambuilder :) 04:20 zat anybody got a beach for v7? 04:42 VanessaE not I.. 04:49 zat I got all the trees to spawn purely using v7 biomes + abs 04:49 zat or whatever it was called 04:49 zat I deleted plants_lib and it still worked!!! 04:50 VanessaE screenshot? 04:51 kaeza v7 + abs! 04:51 kaeza Minetest is working out 04:51 VanessaE ABMs 04:51 VanessaE :P 04:53 * VanessaE waits for long-distance screenshots 04:54 kaeza wat https://cdn.mediacru.sh/_C8qQ5IfzTsw.jpg 04:55 VanessaE jungle trees growing on stone? eh... 04:55 VanessaE that reminds me, I STILL need to add "roots" to mine 04:59 kaeza they're growing on air 04:59 VanessaE *looks again* 04:59 VanessaE wait atf? 04:59 VanessaE wtf*? 04:59 VanessaE cavegen :D 04:59 kaeza :D 04:59 VanessaE carved the ground right out from under them :D 05:01 VanessaE (I didn't spot the shadow on the water originally) 05:02 zat VanessaE: Hold on 05:03 VanessaE did you remember control for perlin regions, elevation, humidity, temperature, and nearness to water? 05:08 zat no 05:08 zat beause I know nothing of that :D 05:09 zat VanessaE: http://uppix.com/f-screenshot_40292537ae36f0016791b.jpg 05:14 zat ping 05:37 kaeza suddenly: Grand Test Auto: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9316 05:37 kaeza >K-Rose 07:18 Mikerhinos hi 11:38 reactor Why does Minetest segfault when I rollover mouse buttons? 11:39 VanessaE well you're supposed to click a mouse button, not roll over it. duh. :) 11:40 reactor It's apparently the programmer's fault to not have sanity checks. 11:40 reactor Every other program works if you happen to accidently press both buttons. 11:41 proller__ or sapier fault with lot of asserts 11:41 VanessaE actually when you said "rollover" I assumed "hover" 11:41 VanessaE not multi-key roll-over 11:42 VanessaE seems okay here though 11:44 reactor The particular action that causes a crash is: dig and immediately place. 11:45 reactor If both keys are pressed for the short time, it crashes. 11:45 VanessaE I can't reproduce that 12:18 reactor Okay, should I provide a memory dump then? 12:41 Megaf Hi all 12:42 Megaf Things are good? 12:54 Megaf sfan5: did you read about the Banana Pi already? 12:54 sfan5 Megaf: yes I did 12:54 sfan5 hi everyone btw 12:55 Megaf sfan5: I'm thinking in getting one 12:55 Megaf looks quite good 12:55 * diemartin pets sfan5 12:55 * sfan5 meows at diemartin 12:55 Megaf and cheaper than ODrois 12:55 Megaf ODroids* 12:56 * sfan5 wants an AArch64/arm64/ARMv8 dev board 12:56 Megaf That would be cool, but not for running minetest... 12:56 Megaf minetest can't even use more than a fucking single core 13:06 sfan5 Megaf: then make the code better, we accept pulls 13:07 Megaf do you? 13:08 Megaf There's a lot of unaccepted pull requests that could improve minetest A LOT 13:31 zsoltisawesome hmm 13:31 zsoltisawesome odd 13:35 PenguinDad Me today: http://mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/img/mlfw10809-226741__safe_rainbow-dash_tumblr_image-macro_filly_cute_caption_adorable_50e8353ca4c72dbd2a00111d_artist-sketchyjackie_my-little-filly_lazy.png 13:36 zsoltisawesome PenguinDad: /) 13:36 PenguinDad zsoltisawesome: (\ 13:39 zsoltisawesome haha! "bash: found: command not found" 13:49 rubenwardy Hi all! 14:03 Kilos greetings everyone. I am running minetest in single player to learn how to play the game but it start as minimal 14:03 Kilos how do i start minetest_game please 14:04 rubenwardy Make sure you have a folder called "minetest_game" in the games folder in your minetest folder 14:04 rubenwardy An when you create a new world, choose "minetest" in the list box. 14:04 Kilos let me look for that ty rubenwardy 14:04 Kilos im using ubuntu 14.04 14:07 Vazon !up minetest.org 30012 14:07 MinetestBot minetest.org:30012 seems to be down 14:07 Vazon well crap 14:39 nman3600 hi 14:43 diemartin hi 14:43 nman3600 hi 14:44 zsoltisawesome hi 14:44 zsoltisawesome (hi battle!) 14:44 PenguinDad hi 14:44 Amaz hi 14:46 zsoltisawesome hi 14:47 nman3600 umm this is weird 14:47 nman3600 so i have a craftitem i try to craft it to make the screenshot and to test it and it comes out with a tool 14:47 nman3600 it is not registered to come out as the tool 14:48 diemartin C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER :( 14:48 diemartin (also late to the party) 14:48 zsoltisawesome hi 14:48 diemartin aaaaaaanyway 14:48 zsoltisawesome diemartin: I like parties! can I come? :P 14:49 nman3600 does anyone have any idea how to fix this 14:49 zsoltisawesome nman3600: is the code on GH? 14:50 diemartin nman3600, can you clarify? 14:50 nman3600 GH? 14:50 zsoltisawesome github 14:50 nman3600 no it isnt zsolt 14:50 zsoltisawesome hmm 14:50 * sfan5 gives diemartin a kitten 14:50 diemartin also, it's Jordach's fault 14:50 Jordach wat 14:50 Jordach WAT 14:50 Jordach y u choose me as the villain 14:50 * diemartin hands the kitten to Jordach 14:50 * zsoltisawesome gives diemartin a dead person named martin 14:50 nman3600 now that's just cold diemartin 14:51 nman3600 Jordach any ideas? 14:51 Jordach i just joined 14:51 Jordach no code == no fixes 14:51 nman3600 so i have a craftitem i try to craft it to make the screenshot and to test it and it comes out with a tool it is not registered to come out as the tool 14:52 rubenwardy Hi kaeza / diemartin 14:52 diemartin hai rubenwardy 14:52 nman3600 hai rubenwardy 14:52 rubenwardy Hello! 14:52 zsoltisawesome Hi! 14:52 zsoltisawesome Hello! 14:52 diemartin guten tag! 14:53 zsoltisawesome damn 14:53 zsoltisawesome i was about to say that 14:53 diemartin (or however you spell that) 14:54 Jrock haha lol 14:54 diemartin nman3600, care to post some code / clarify a bit? 14:54 Jrock Krock 14:54 nman3600 ok 14:54 rubenwardy Any reason why "minetest.exe --worldname nbe_test --name player1 --password pass --go" won't load the nbe_test world, and instead loads the first world alphabetically? 14:54 JDach muahahaha ;) 14:55 VRock woo VRock is not registered \o/ 14:55 Jrock jrock is D: 14:55 Lrock haha! 14:55 JDach fun fact: whoever nicked my nick would have got ns ghosted 14:56 kaeza Huh? 14:56 Lrock lol 14:56 Krock Hello 14:56 VRock /msg nickserv ghost kaeza ... 14:56 rubenwardy How is that possible? 14:57 nman3600 Krock do you have any ideas my problem is... 14:57 nman3600 so i have a craftitem i try to craft it to make the screenshot and to test it and it comes out with a tool it is not registered to come out as the tool 14:57 VRock nman3600, care to post some code / clarify a bit? 14:57 Krock Do you have any iteas where to find "don't auto-subscribe topics where I posted in"? 14:57 Krock as checkbox. 14:58 VRock UCP -> Settings -> Posting 14:58 nman3600 minetest.register_craftitem("shears:raw_rubber", { description = "Raw Rubber", inventory_image = "shears_raw_rubber.png", }) 14:58 nman3600 thats the craft item 14:58 nman3600 minetest.register_craft({ output = "shears:raw_rubber", recipe = { {"default:clay_lump", "default:papyrus", "default:clay_lump"}, {"default:papyrus", "bucket:bucket_water", "default:papyrus"}, {"default:clay_lump", "default:papyrus", "default:clay_lump"}, } }) 14:58 nman3600 thats the crafting recipe 14:58 Krock zsolisnotawesome: I don't see any settings "thing" 14:59 VRock Krock, UCP -> Board prefs -> Edit posting defaults 14:59 Krock nman3600, is "shears:raw_rubber" defined? 14:59 nman3600 > 14:59 nman3600 ? 14:59 Krock "Notify me upon replies by default:", thx. found it. 14:59 VRock "Notify me upon replies by default: Yes/No" 14:59 Lrock lol 14:59 Krock haha 14:59 VRock blargh 14:59 rubenwardy nman3600: can't see anything wrong 14:59 Krock ninja'd 15:00 nman3600 i will send you a screenshot of what happens 15:01 * Krock deletes 108 mails in the spam folder from forums.minetest.net 15:02 * Lrock deletes 133 mails in the spam folder from forums.minetest.net 15:02 Lrock :P 15:02 nman3600 no one has been posting their best builds on my off topic post after i have posted mine :( 15:02 Jordach rubenwardy, thursday is chips day at the sixth form (can of drink + large chips + battered sausage for £3.25) and the chips are literally covered in grease 15:02 * kaeza puts kittens on *rock's heads 15:02 nman3600 nevermind about the bug i had it works now 15:03 rubenwardy We have chips everyday at my college 15:03 Lrock Jordach: sounds delicious 15:03 nman3600 mm chips makes me hungry 15:03 Jordach i'm starting to get a visible beer belly now, and i can't even eat them all 15:03 Jordach (there's usually a layer of chips at the bottom) 15:03 nman3600 beer belly do you mean bare belly? 15:04 rubenwardy A layer of chips at the bottom of your beer bell? ew 15:04 rubenwardy nman3600: no 15:04 nman3600 okay... 15:04 Jordach nman3600, i'm actually quite large at the waist :) 15:04 nman3600 okay :) 15:04 Lrock Jordach: that is infinitly surprising 15:05 Jordach Lrock, i'm extremely athletic 15:05 Jordach i can physically fold myself in half 15:05 rubenwardy bad things are happening 15:05 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/c5c91429110e7d63bdf7 15:05 Lrock Wow! 15:05 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 15:05 Jordach meow :3 15:05 nman3600 sfan5: good cat 15:06 rubenwardy ooooh 15:06 rubenwardy I haven't done openttd in ages! 15:06 nman3600 the game? 15:07 Krock good old OpenTTD, I played it too.. almost a year ago now 15:07 nman3600 i have that game 15:07 nman3600 i don't play it much anymore 15:07 rubenwardy I get bored of playing it legit 15:07 microcarrot sounds farmiknar 15:07 nman3600 same 15:08 rubenwardy I get £100,000,000, and build an awesome place 15:08 Krock Yeah and the players get too much money when the transport way is useless long 15:08 nman3600 Krock: i agree 15:08 rubenwardy double oh.. there is an update 15:08 Jordach Krock, basically build a Rollercoaster Tycoon esque route 15:08 Jordach with crazy stuff on the loop 15:08 microcarrot i like Rollercoaster Tycoon! 15:09 rubenwardy I like Zoo Tycoon on DS 15:09 Krock Jordach, it calculates by distance, not by rail-length 15:09 microcarrot I think the second one is the best 15:09 microcarrot make it scwigle! 15:09 rubenwardy not sure which ZTC i placed 15:09 rubenwardy *played 15:10 nman3600 how do you make it so a crafting recipe that uses a bucket of water gives you the bucket back? 15:10 rubenwardy Can someone try to reproduce this: 15:10 rubenwardy Any reason why "minetest.exe --worldname nbe_test --name player1 --password pass --go" won't load the nbe_test world, and instead loads the first world alphabetically? 15:10 Krock invalid world name? 15:11 nman3600 would so make it so on the output it has bucket aswell? 15:12 microcarrot imgur has 56,800,235,584 different url combinations! 15:12 Amaz It works for me on linux... minetest --worldname nbe_test --name player1 --password pass --go 15:13 Krock microcarrot, not enough. needs more. how else to upload my collection of kittens? 15:13 microcarrot lol 15:13 nman3600 how do i do it? 15:13 microcarrot !c 15:13 MinetestBot microcarrot: Nothing to calculate. 15:13 Krock nman3600, I don't get what you try 15:14 microcarrot !c 62 ** 6 15:14 MinetestBot 56800235584 15:14 microcarrot ^see 15:14 Krock muuuch kittens 15:14 microcarrot lol 15:14 sfan5 uhh 15:14 nman3600 Krock, i want to make it so i have a crafting recipe that uses a bucket of water but when i craft it i want it to give you the bucket back but instead it takes it 15:14 microcarrot sfan5: uhh what 15:15 sfan5 microcarrot: care to explain where 62 came from and where 6 came from? 15:15 microcarrot yeah 15:15 Krock nman3600, }, replacements = {{ "bucket:bucket_water", "bucket:bucket_empty"}} }) 15:16 nman3600 and that goes where in the crafting recipe? 15:16 microcarrot imgur has 6 random chars in its url that can be A-z0-9 15:16 microcarrot A-z0-9 is 62 different characters 15:16 Krock ^ 15:16 microcarrot ^sfan5 15:16 sfan5 !c 26*2+10 15:16 MinetestBot 62 15:16 Krock nman3600, at the end, see the ')' i did at the back 15:16 sfan5 ah, makes sense 15:16 microcarrot yeah 15:17 Krock microcarrot: /i.imgur.com/123456.123 15:17 Krock or .jpeg 15:18 Krock but the possible "in-site-previews" are what you've said 15:20 nman3600 so Krock i have lines 61 to 28 minetest.register_craft({ starts on 61 what row would it go on 15:21 nman3600 *line 68 15:22 nman3600 so... what line krock? 15:23 Krock nman3600, minetest.register_craft({output="blah", recipe= {{"bucket:bucket_water"}}, replacements = {{ "bucket:bucket_water", "bucket:bucket_empty"}} }) 15:25 nman3600 all i get is an error 15:25 Krock much invormatife 15:25 Krock invormati'fe 15:26 nman3600 16:25:21: ERROR[main]: ========== ERROR FROM LUA =========== 16:25:21: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from 16:25:21: ERROR[main]: C:\Users\NIALL\Desktop\Original minetest\bin\..\mods\shears\init.lua: 16:25:21: ERROR[main]: ...LL\Desktop\Original minetest\bin\..\mods\shears\init.lua:68: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 61) near 'replacements' 16:25:21: ERROR[main]: ======= END OF ERROR FROM LUA ======== 16:25:21: ER 15:26 Krock ShadowBot! 15:26 Krock nman3600, dude. seriously? 15:26 sfan5 Krock: that was all one line 15:27 Krock sfan5, seems like multiple \n are in it 15:27 nman3600 all i asked is what line does it go on Krock 15:27 Krock nman3600, that I'd like to know too 15:27 sfan5 Krock: how do you come to that conclusion? 15:27 Krock cuz I've no idea what codes you've got 15:28 nman3600 the lines are 61 to 68 and on 61 minetest.register_craft({ starts 15:28 Krock sfan5, well, it has line breaking in it and that's not because of the IRC client 15:28 Krock nman3600, pastebin. plz. 15:28 sfan5 Krock: I don't see any line breaks, there can't even be any line breaks in that because that does not work with the IRC protocol 15:28 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 15:28 Amaz nman3600, You've probably missed a comma of line 67. 15:29 * sfan5 meows at PilzAdam 15:29 Amaz s/of/off 15:29 Krock sfan5, how about \r? idk.. 15:29 sfan5 Krock: nope, an line can't contain \n nor \r 15:29 * PilzAdam hands sfan5 a cup of milk 15:29 * sfan5 noms the milk 15:29 Krock sfan5, okay.. weird 15:30 * PilzAdam cleans the cup and puts it back 15:31 PilzAdam there should be a "Word story" 2.0, where everyone is only allowed to post "nyan" 15:32 Krock crazy idea. 15:32 Krock I like crazy ideas 15:32 * sfan5 にゃん's at PilzAdam 15:32 PilzAdam ¿¡ 15:32 sfan5 にゃん = nyan 15:33 nman3600 Krock http://pastebin.com/u4xAZgRM 15:33 PilzAdam !rainbow nyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyannyanv 15:33 MinetestBot 4n4y4a7n7n7y8a8n8n3y3a3n12n12y12a6n6n6y13a13n13n4y4a4n7n7y7a8n8n8y3a3n3n12y12a12n6n6y6a13n13n13y4a4n4n7y7a7n8n8y8a3n3n3y12a12n12n6y6a6n13n13y13a4n4n4y7a7n7n8y8a8n3n3y3a12n12n12y6a6n6n13y13a13n4n4y4a7n7n7y8a8n8n3y3a3n12n12y12a6n6n6y13a13n13n4y4a4n7n7y7a8n8n8y3a3n3n12y12a12n6n6y6a13n13n13y4a4n4n7y7a7n8n8y8a3n3n3y12 15:33 * nman3600 holds a treat out to sfan5 15:33 sfan5 !rainbow にゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃんにゃん 15:33 MinetestBot 4ã�«4ゃ4ã‚“7ã�«7ゃ7ã‚“8ã�«8ゃ8ã‚“3ã�«3ゃ3ã‚“12ã�«12ゃ12ã‚“6ã�«6ゃ6ã‚“13ã�«13ゃ13ã‚“4ã�«4ゃ4ã‚“7ã�«7ゃ7ã‚“8ã�«8ゃ8ã‚“3ã�«3ゃ3ã‚“12ã�«12ゃ12ã‚“6ã�«6ゃ6ã‚“13ã�«13ゃ13ã‚“4ã�«4ゃ4ã‚“7ã�«7ゃ7ã‚“8ã�«8ゃ8ã‚“3ã�«3ゃ3ã‚“12ã�«12ゃ12ã‚“6ã�«6ゃ6ã‚“13ã�«13ゃ13ã‚“4ã�«4ゃ4ã‚“7ã�«7ゃ7ã‚“8ã�«8ゃ8ã‚“3ã�«3ゃ3ã‚“12ã�«12ゃ12ã‚“6ã�«6ゃ6ã‚“13ã�«13ゃ13ã‚“4ã�«4ã‚ 15:35 nman3600 Krock i know that the craft thing is out of place 15:35 PenguinDad !rainbow โปรไฟล์นี้เป็นโปรไฟล์ส่วนตัว 15:35 MinetestBot 4โ4ป4ร7ไ7ฟ7ล8์8น8ี3้3เ3ป12็12น12โ6ป6ร6ไ13ฟ13ล13์4ส4่4ว7น7ต7ั8ว8 15:36 Krock nman3600, http://pastebin.com/k4zcMExv 15:36 nman3600 thanks Krock 15:38 nman3600 ahh perfect thanks again Krock 15:39 Krock np 15:39 nman3600 :) 15:39 nman3600 now to make rubber 15:46 nman3600 hi 15:49 zat hu 15:53 microcarrot sfan5: what OS does MinetestBot run on? 15:54 Jordach Debian 15:54 sfan5 !py __import__('os').popen("uname -a").read() 15:54 MinetestBot 'Linux butterfly 2.6.32-042stab084.26 #1 SMP Mon Feb 17 21:00:14 MSK 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux\n' 15:54 microcarrot woah 15:54 markveidemanis .read() ? 15:55 microcarrot mark! 15:55 microcarrot cheapo-bot is broken 15:55 microcarrot #mtcm 15:55 blaise Linux midterm2 3.14.4-gentoo #1 Fri May 16 03:13:30 UTC 2014 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 2650e AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux 15:55 * markveidemanis reads scroolback 16:01 zat Ping VanessaE 16:07 kaeza Calinou, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=9315 16:07 microcarrot !tw @realtinymonster 16:07 MinetestBot Minecraft is the examplar of Java gaming on PC, but have any 3D games been successful choosing Java over native on Android? (@realtinymonster) 16:08 * SylvieLorxu slaps @realtinymonster for all of the reasons 16:08 zat kaeza: I think you should have commited v2 to the original repo. 16:09 kaeza zat, the original is still used, and v2 is WIP 16:09 kaeza (and too lazy to be bothered with branches) 16:09 zat if it is WIP shouldn't it be v2.0a? 16:09 zat I am not sure really. 16:09 microcarrot SylvieLorxu: can you think of a better game? 16:10 microcarrot BTW that was John Carmack, not me 16:12 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Add joining player to printed player list 73e5bc9c01 2014-05-20T18:09:32+02:00 http://git.io/LLZhRA 16:14 Calinou kaeza, ? 16:14 kaeza Calinou, weren't you who asked for an xban mod topic? 16:15 Calinou ah 16:15 Calinou thanks 16:18 zat MinetestBot: “encoding” email addresses to use at-dot instead of @-. ...like spam bots didn't know how to recognize those already. lol 16:19 PenguinDad zat: sapier does that not MinetestBot 16:20 zat I know, commiters do, I am just commenting to MinetestBot. 16:20 zat ...to see what he thinks. 16:21 PenguinDad s/he/she/ 16:22 zat there are no women on the internet 16:24 kaeza wrong, bots are all females 16:24 zat nope.avi 16:24 kaeza MinetestBot! 16:24 MinetestBot kaeza! 16:24 * PenguinDad slaps zat 16:25 kaeza ShadowBot! 16:25 kaeza you suck 16:25 zat PenguinDad: no plz, not in public 16:27 PenguinDad this isn't the public this is the minetrix :> 16:28 zat &$&%&$# 16:28 zat iyada 16:28 kaeza lol minetrix 16:29 zat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trix_%28cereal%29 16:35 zsoltisawesome lol 16:43 SylvieLorxu zsoltisawesome: A better game than Minecraft? Easily... 16:43 SylvieLorxu A better game written in Java: Barely, because Java is a terrible platform for games 16:45 RealBadAngel Terasology is written in java 16:45 RealBadAngel http://blog.movingblocks.net/blockmania/ 16:49 PenguinDad and terasology barely runs at lowest settings here 16:49 SylvieLorxu Okay, fair enough 16:50 kaeza There's also Heroes of Umbra 16:51 kaeza oh wait... 3D 16:51 whiskers75 SylvieLorxu: meow! 16:51 SylvieLorxu whiskers75: Nya? 16:52 PenguinDad whiskers75: !woem 16:52 whiskers75 sfan5* 16:52 whiskers75 sfan5: meow! 16:52 SylvieLorxu Aww :( 16:52 reactor zat: http://easyquestion.net/thinkagain/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/got_milk.jpg 16:52 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75 16:52 whiskers75 sfan5: MY PIGLOW ARRIVER 16:52 whiskers75 D* 16:52 reactor pilcrow? 16:52 whiskers75 PiGlow 16:52 whiskers75 I'm using it to display load average 16:52 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75's PiGlow 16:53 whiskers75 sfan5: the piglow is currently glowing yellow 16:53 reactor Everyone likes bells and whistles. 16:53 whiskers75 it just moved up 16:53 zsoltisawesome !btc HUF 16:53 * sfan5 taps whiskers75 16:53 sfan5 !btc 16:53 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 500.0000 $ 16:54 microcarrot !btc HUF 16:54 MinetestBot microcarrot: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: ISK, USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, TWD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD 16:54 microcarrot ahg! 16:54 microcarrot no HUF? 16:54 microcarrot why! 16:54 reactor btc щщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщ 16:54 reactor !btc щщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщщ 16:54 MinetestBot reactor: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: ISK, USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, TWD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD 16:54 whiskers75 ring2, <0.8 16:55 Jordach !dogew 16:55 Jordach !doge 16:55 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT 16:55 zat lel 16:55 PenguinDad !doge 16:55 MinetestBot DOGE is at 0.00000099 BTC 16:55 zat and one more thing... lightning in terasology looks so fake/annoying. 16:55 reactor What does the "Doge" meme mean? 16:55 zat they call it “beautiful”... I call it... a... thing... 16:55 zat annoying! 16:57 reactor Why would they use Java for yet another project? 16:57 reactor Hasn't Minecraft shown it's too slow for that? 16:58 khonkhortisan it's a picture of a dog, accompanied by bad grammar. The altcoin is powered by how people feel about the meme. It has no other advancements in the Bitcoin protocol. 16:58 zat most Minecraft players are kids with powerful computers, they don't ever realize. 16:59 reactor That's right. 17:00 reactor Most computer users* 17:00 reactor We've got the whole industry going to nowhere. 17:04 Jordach terasology = lagfest even on my hardware 17:04 Jordach minecraft with sonic ethers shaders = non lagfest 17:04 microcarrot ^that says something 17:05 Jordach i nail 30fps on my hardware (compare to 170fps without shaders enabled) 17:05 zat reactor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth%27s_Law 17:05 microcarrot There is this law 17:05 microcarrot I like it 17:05 microcarrot Its so amazing 17:05 microcarrot Chat spam 17:06 reactor zat: yeah, totally. That's because people are too dumb to be let use computers. 17:06 reactor Most are. 17:07 zat but they work with them! 17:08 microcarrot john_ponytest! 17:08 Jordach TIL Windows Task Manager uses more cpu time than Firefox 17:09 reactor No surprise. It's one poorly designed operating system. 17:10 zat poorly designed? nobody uses linux! 17:10 zat all use windows, it has to be for a reason? dont you think? 17:10 khonkhortisan All use qwerty, that doesn't mean it's any good. 17:10 zat It works 17:10 zat and I type fast with it 17:10 khonkhortisan Others work better, yet we use what we've always used. 17:10 reactor Yes. People are not smart enough to learn. Learning curve of UNIX is steeper. 17:11 reactor "most popular" does not always mean "the best". 17:11 khonkhortisan You may not type any faster, but your fingers will travel less. 17:11 * Jordach kinda likes the procedural clouds :3 https://mediacru.sh/104ceedd6b90 17:11 reactor If your task manager eats up more resources than the tasks you're supposed to view with it, it's a major flaw. 17:11 microcarrot khonkhortisan: not worth inversting in a new keyboard 17:11 khonkhortisan ... 17:12 * Jordach 's cost £9.99 and is waterproof 17:12 khonkhortisan Software. 17:12 zat reactor: linux is not compatible with games 17:12 zat or direct-x 17:12 microcarrot khonkhortisan: not worth inversting in a new Dvorak keyboard 17:12 reactor Surprise! It is! 17:12 khonkhortisan You already have a dvorak keyboard. 17:12 zat linux is not compatible with drivers! 17:12 khonkhortisan You have many layouts in your current operating system. 17:13 reactor zat: ignorance detected. 17:13 khonkhortisan Zat, I must counter your statement that linux is not compatible with games, with the statement that windows is not compatible with multiboxing. 17:13 reactor zat: bye! 17:13 zat there are no linux viruses because nobody cares of hacking linux computers 17:13 khonkhortisan You may only use one mouse cursor at any one time. 17:13 microcarrot khonkhortisan: /ctcp microcarrot version 17:13 microcarrot hi 17:13 zat can I use photoshop on linux? no 17:13 Krock lol 17:13 zat :) 17:13 Krock MS-DOS, you moron... 17:14 PenguinDad Hey john_minetest 17:14 microcarrot harhar 17:14 Krock <3 17:14 reactor !title 17:14 MinetestBot reactor: Hark all ye lovely saints above - Thomas Weelkes (1576 - 1623) "subtitles" included - YouT[...] 17:14 zat reactor: and the worst.... there are too many linuxes, I cant learn of all them. 17:14 zat all of them* 17:14 microcarrot !c 1+1^2 17:14 MinetestBot 0 17:14 microcarrot lol 17:14 Krock MinetestBot, use HtmlUtilities.HtmlDecode()! 17:14 microcarrot oops 17:14 khonkhortisan There is no reason to. I can create a new distro just by removing a package from another. 17:14 microcarrot !c 1+1**2 17:14 MinetestBot 2 17:15 PenguinDad !c 2**2 17:15 MinetestBot 4 17:15 zat reactor: also, it is open source and free... who will fix the software? 17:15 microcarrot john_minetest: /ctcp john_minetest version 17:15 Krock HexChat 2.9.6 / Linux 3.14.4-1-ARCH [x86_64/830,50MHz/SMP] 17:15 zat reactor: and any say linux will become proprietary. 17:15 zat :D !!!!! 17:15 khonkhortisan The person that can code and is annoyed with it not working right. 17:15 zat reactor: that is why you and I and all should get a Microsoft certification 17:16 khonkhortisan I'm working on firefox's spell checker because it can't use multiple dictionaries at the same time. 17:16 reactor k. 17:16 Calinou a kernel is the best. 17:16 Calinou reactor: also, it is open source and free... who will fix the software? 17:16 Calinou you 8) 17:16 zat reactor, Calinou: it is open source, it means that anybody can know how to develop a virus for it. 17:16 zat :D! 17:16 Krock kernel32.dll for the win, Calinou, yes! YOu're right! 17:16 khonkhortisan The same could be said of minetest 17:16 Calinou can I use photoshop on linux? no 17:16 Calinou it's not like I miss it too much 17:16 reactor I'd only add that Linux is a poor clone of UNIX. 17:17 whiskers75 sfan5: next thing: make the pie meow 17:17 zat reactor: linux is a poor clone of windows 17:17 zat they tried to copy Windows Vista effects 17:17 zat with that thing called compiz 17:17 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75's pie 17:17 * whiskers75 's pie meows back at sfan5 17:17 * whiskers75 sticks a hand up 17:17 reactor john_minetest: you've never seriously used it then. 17:17 zat because nobody uses linux 17:17 whiskers75 I use compiz! 17:17 whiskers75 I use linux! 17:17 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'(((((--< 17:18 * sfan5 noms john_minetest and throws the fishy at whiskers75 17:18 khonkhortisan I use compiz, and that's only something on top of a windowmanager, which windows can't change out 17:18 zat since aero was invented by Microsoft, all linuxes tried to copy it. 17:18 PenguinDad I use KDE and linux! 17:18 zat there is more software for windows. 17:18 Krock I use explorer.exe and windows! 17:18 khonkhortisan Windows is more popular for personal computers, while linux is more popular for servers. 17:18 zat for linux you must download and compile and it is nearly impossible to install software easily 17:18 reactor I use ПЫЙВЛБ and ЪДТБЧУФЧХКФЕ. 17:19 zat everything is cryptic and command line 17:19 Krock zat, exactly. 17:19 zat john_minetest: it is because windows is compatible with all software 17:19 khonkhortisan zat. I have a repository where I can download many packages. Windows requires firefox and flash to have their own autoupdaters. 17:19 zat try to run firefox on windows, it works, despite it is for linux 17:19 zat try to run photoshop in linux, wont work, because linux is not compatible 17:20 reactor "all software" 17:20 reactor "right distro" 17:20 khonkhortisan Only a program that is written to be cross-compatible is. 17:20 khonkhortisan Would you like me to find an example of a program that doesn't work on windows? 17:20 reactor You guys are surely worth quoting. *smirk* 17:21 zat john_minetest: I download firefox and it JUST RUNS in windows 17:21 zat if I just download photoshop, it just wont run in linux. 17:21 zat ... 17:21 microcarrot zat: and you download firefox and it JUST RUNS in linux too 17:21 khonkhortisan What is your point? That mozilla cares about cross-compatibility and (whoever makes photoshop) doesn't? 17:22 Krock god antivirus ftw 17:22 zat because it is open source 17:22 zat it is open source so anybody can download it and compile it and say they made it 17:22 reactor And package managers let you install stuff without ever opening a browser. 17:22 ShadowNinja Jordach: It's possible that it sees more CPU usage from itself because it's running at the moment, but that would be a bug. 17:22 zat ehem&/$#freemin**ehem 17:22 microcarrot !py print "Hi" 17:22 microcarrot i assume admin only? 17:22 khonkhortisan photoshop is closed source. Anyone could say they decompiled it, changed a line, and recompiled it and say they made it. 17:23 zat I am surprised that you all seriously argue with me when you all know that I am Archlinux user since 2007. 17:23 zat :) 17:23 reactor zat is planning to be the new Denis Popov 17:23 khonkhortisan Whether something is open-source or closed-source, if you're not following licencing, doesn't stop you from editing the instructions. 17:23 reactor "BolgenOS, the principally new OS" 17:24 zat no!! a rain of /whois!!! 17:24 ShadowNinja ~eval 'microcarrot: Yes.' 17:24 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 'microcarrot: Yes.' 17:25 reactor Boy, I gotta see that. 17:25 khonkhortisan eew 17:25 khonkhortisan So I could load a website on the lan? 17:25 microcarrot lol 17:25 microcarrot Zat is purple! 17:25 khonkhortisan purple on my irc client 17:25 ShadowNinja !c char(50) 17:25 MinetestBot NameError: name 'char' is not defined 17:25 ShadowNinja !c chr(50) 17:25 MinetestBot '2' 17:26 reactor How do you know if someone is /whois'ing you? 17:26 MinetestBot SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) 17:26 khonkhortisan you don't 17:26 zat I am purple D: 17:26 ShadowNinja microcarrot: !c runs python code though. Have fun breaking the sandbox. 17:26 ShadowNinja ;-) 17:26 microcarrot hmm 17:26 microcarrot !c random.randint() 17:26 MinetestBot TypeError: randint() takes exactly 3 arguments (1 given) 17:26 khonkhortisan old_sandbox = sandbox; sandbox = import python 17:26 reactor 23:24 < zat> no!! a rain of /whois!!! 17:26 microcarrot !c random.randint(1,100) 17:26 MinetestBot 54 17:26 microcarrot !c random.randint(1,100) 17:26 MinetestBot 65 17:27 microcarrot !c print version 17:27 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 17:27 microcarrot !c print("Butter!") 17:27 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 17:27 PenguinDad !c "xa" * 10 17:27 MinetestBot 'xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa' 17:27 microcarrot !c print('Butter!') 17:27 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 17:28 Krock !c print "Butter!" 17:28 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 17:28 Krock err 17:28 microcarrot !c "I like Chocolate Pudding" 2^2 17:28 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 17:28 microcarrot !c "I like Chocolate Pudding" * 2^2 17:28 MinetestBot TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for ^: 'str' and 'int' 17:28 microcarrot !c "I like Chocolate Pudding" * 2**2 17:28 MinetestBot 'I like Chocolate PuddingI like Chocolate PuddingI like Chocolate PuddingI like Chocolate Pudding' 17:28 microcarrot !c "I like Chocolate Pudding! " * 2**2 17:28 MinetestBot 'I like Chocolate Pudding! I like Chocolate Pudding! I like Chocolate Pudding! I like Chocolate Pudding! ' 17:29 microcarrot Krock: !c "Butter!" * ! 17:29 microcarrot *1 17:29 PenguinDad !c "Butter!" 17:29 MinetestBot 'Butter!' 17:29 microcarrot !spam 17:29 microcarrot :P 17:29 MinetestBot 'SPiced hAM' 17:30 microcarrot !c split 17:30 MinetestBot NameError: name 'split' is not defined 17:30 microcarrot !c split() 17:30 Vazon mhmm anyone got any idea how to add a mod to the moreblocks mod? 17:30 reactor edit init.lua? 17:30 microcarrot !c split("Hello World!")[::-1] 17:30 MinetestBot NameError: name 'split' is not defined 17:30 microcarrot damn 17:30 microcarrot i must remember wrong 17:31 microcarrot !rainbow Hey MinetestBot! 17:31 MinetestBot 4H4e4y7 7M7i8n8e8t3e3s3t12B12o12t6! 17:31 Calinou don't abuse the bot 17:31 Calinou there's ##minetestbot 17:32 reactor john_minetest: oh, I forgot to ask. Any new projects? 17:32 zat Microsoft confirms they are considering making Windows a GNU/Linux (or BSD) distro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XORiPRae51I 17:32 Vazon i have looked in there and it doesnt seem to be in there 17:33 microcarrot zat lol 17:33 reactor Aha. 17:33 whiskers75 04♥ ShadowBot 17:33 zat :) 17:33 reactor !title 17:33 MinetestBot reactor: Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 2013 (PARODY) #WIGGLE - YouTube 17:33 khonkhortisan that looked like a highlight to me 17:33 zat screw you MinetestBot! 17:33 reactor *okay.jpg* 17:34 zat Answer: 17:34 PenguinDad Answer: 42 17:34 khonkhortisan *virus.exe.txt.jpg* 17:34 reactor Answer: 65535 17:34 Krock yes,it counts 17:34 zat You cannot disable HTML5. 17:34 microcarrot zat, yes to can 17:34 zat No you cannot. 17:34 khonkhortisan They have rickrolled you, but you have not been rickrolled by them in that case. 17:34 microcarrot you use an outdated browser! 17:34 zat I have been web-developer for 10 years, your argument is invalid. 17:35 Krock zat, show me how to enable HTML5 on netscape navigator 17:35 khonkhortisan The question was about disabling. 17:35 zat Kock: I didnt say that is possible. 17:35 Calinou john_minetest, YouTube should always fallback to HTML 5 if you don't have Flash 17:35 Krock well... if it's not enabled, then it's disabled 17:35 khonkhortisan In a web browser that already has html5, to make it not use it. 17:35 Calinou HTML 5 will only be used in embedded videos if you have no Flash, even if you have HTML 5 program enabled! 17:35 Calinou so, remove your Flash to make it really work 17:35 microcarrot what john_minetest means to say is that his flash is off and he isn't in the HTML5 youtube beta. 17:36 BlockMen Calinou, no. it uses HTML5 aswell when you have flash installed 17:36 reactor http://bfolder.ru/_ph/33/2/513721157.jpg <-- zat arguing (sketchy!) 17:36 microcarrot http://youtube.com/html5 17:36 microcarrot ^ john_minetest 17:36 zat HTML5... plz guys... maybe you mean the video element which is part of the HTML5 spec and which just happen to be supported if added through scripting to a document which not necessarily is valid html5. 17:36 reactor !title 17:36 MinetestBot reactor: YouTube 17:36 zat :D!!!!! 17:36 zat LMAO 17:37 microcarrot odd 17:37 zat exactly, HTML5 Video player != HTML5. 17:37 BlockMen flash > html5 (on youtube) 17:37 zat See? I won the argument. 17:37 zat period 17:37 microcarrot .rainbow .py print ".rainbow .py print '.tw @RealTinyMonster'" 17:37 zat menstruation... 17:37 microcarrot ^that 17:37 zat I mean period. 17:37 rubenwardy HTML5 is awesome 17:38 microcarrot HTML6 is awesomeer! 17:38 zat mlp 17:38 Calinou O_o HexChat can click links with Ctrl? 17:38 BlockMen html 4.1 ftw :P 17:38 MinetestBot 4R4A4I7N7B7O8W8 8D3A3S3H12! 17:38 Calinou halleluiah 17:38 Krock HTTP/1.1 ftw 17:38 PenguinDad Javascript is awkward 17:38 zat PenguinDad: its awesome 17:38 zat NodeJS is da sheet 17:38 ShadowNinja john_minetest: HTML 5 is only supported for some videos (or was). 17:38 reactor JavaScript must die a slow and painful death. 17:39 reactor And programmers cobbling sites togethet using JS must be hung by their testicles. 17:39 microcarrot reactor: then how would HTML5 work? 17:39 rubenwardy It has a lot of bad points. 17:39 Calinou ShadowNinja, I have yet to see an embedded YouTube video requiring Flash 17:39 reactor s/het/her/ 17:39 zat reactor: it is exactly the opposite, it is getting huger and huger and awesomer and incrediblerer. 17:39 BlockMen john_minetest, disable js blocker for youtube could help? 17:39 rubenwardy I like js, though, regardless 17:40 Calinou JavaScript is fine, but abuse and tracking using it is not 17:40 reactor huger is not necessarily awesomer and incredibler 17:40 reactor it's usually the opposite 17:40 Calinou less and less things need JavaScript today, thankfully 17:40 Calinou (thanks to HTML 5 and CSS 3) 17:40 zat reactor: huger in its adoption 17:41 zat javascript is awesome, that some abuse it and dont know how to use it doesnt make it less awesome. 17:41 BlockMen "Trollhattan, Sweden", lol 17:41 BlockMen this really exists 17:41 zat Web-development is a huge market, and as such, full of fake/amateur developers. 17:41 reactor Web programmers tend to shove it in every hole. 17:41 BlockMen thought it is a joke^^ 17:42 zat I mean... people that can (most of the time barely) code, and call themselves developer 17:42 zat they normally think html is a programming language 17:42 zat LOL 17:42 reactor What is it then? 17:42 zat markup language 17:43 zat to structure a document 17:43 zat nowadays semantically 17:43 khonkhortisan You can put javascript or php into it and make it a language, but really it's on top of xml. 17:43 zat khonkhortisan: you dont make it anything else by embedding things 17:43 zat and... you cannot put php into html 17:44 reactor Well, in Russian, they usually call HTML a programming language. 17:44 khonkhortisan I mean... people that can (most of the time barely) code, and call themselves developer 17:47 zat anyway nobody adds php in an html file in a sintactically valid way 17:47 zat reactor: and most of that is thanks to php 17:47 zat I developed PHP *professionally* for 8 years... 17:47 reactor But you got me there: I know potatoes about the so called "web development". 17:47 khonkhortisan and I touched it once 17:48 zat the more I learned about it and could compare it to other web-development techs... the more I disliked it. 17:48 khonkhortisan So I didn't know php couldn't be put in html 17:48 zat khonkhortisan: you can make php look like it is put in html, but only by appearance 17:48 zat the php preprocessor will first evaluate all the php chunks and deliver the actual resultant html 17:49 zat resulting* 17:50 khonkhortisan So you can copy an html page, surround a real php script with that, and add a View Source button (to the page that was copied) that directs the user to the php file 17:50 zat I didnt get it. :S 17:51 rubenwardy lol 17:51 rubenwardy I use pretty much every google service 17:51 BlockMen john_minetest, thats paranoid 17:52 khonkhortisan Let's say I have MainPage.html, which uses script.php. On MainPage.html, I have a link to view script.php. I make a new file, copy MainPage.html into it, copy script.php into the middle of that, then save over script.php 17:53 rubenwardy BlockMen: You won't be laughing when they know what cat videos you watched! It's horrifying! 17:53 zat khonkhortisan: which uses script.php, in what way? 17:53 khonkhortisan The html fluff in script.php matches the actual html used in MainPage.html, to confuse the reader. 17:53 * BlockMen doesnt watch cat videos :P 17:53 lolol Ello 17:53 khonkhortisan Umm, let's say MainPage.html is generated by script.php. 17:54 zat khonkhortisan: so what url you visit? 17:54 lolol So what r u doin? 17:54 khonkhortisan You visit /MainPage.html, which gives you a link to /script.php, and you can view the code of either. 17:55 khonkhortisan watching you leave, lolol! 17:55 zat khonkhortisan: you cannot view the code of a php file, not through the browser. 17:56 PenguinDad write a quine in php for viewing the content of script.php 17:56 zat quine? 17:56 Noogah Hi all! Can somebody give me more info about SFan's recorder client? 17:56 khonkhortisan Then /MainPage.html, /script.php, and /script.php.txt 17:56 zat Noogah: hi, it records. 17:56 Noogah So I assumed - but I can't find it anywhere 17:56 microcarrot lol 17:56 rubenwardy Some people are d_ckheads 17:57 ShadowNinja Calinou: I think YT converted their whole DB to a HTML-5-compatible format a little while back. 17:57 khonkhortisan See how little I know about php? It doesn't go in html, and it can't be read directly. 17:57 zat I dont know it but did you already try github or gitorious? (Noogah) 17:57 zat khonkhortisan: php is always evaluated on the server, the visitor will always see only the result of the script. 17:57 ShadowNinja Calinou: But I've used the beta for over a year, and it only worked on new videos before. 17:58 lolol Ello shadow 17:59 zat brb 17:59 Noogah I didn't think to check github. Where would it be? I assumed it was a private project 17:59 MinetestBot GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest_game: Fix semitransparent pixel in bread's texture. 579c279be2 2014-05-20T19:58:30+02:00 http://git.io/nLsb9g 17:59 khonkhortisan So in my hypothetical server, script.php is run to create MainPage.html, which the user sees. That has a link to script.php.txt, which can be read like a text file. It is a copy of script.php. script.php is a copy of the original script.php, but with MainPage.html surrounding it. 18:00 lolol Can anyone hear me? 18:00 khonkhortisan echo: can anyone hear me? ...anyone hear... 18:00 PenguinDad SPEAK A BIT LOUDER PLEASE! 18:01 lolol :/ 18:01 ShadowNinja Hello lolol. Do I know you? 18:01 lolol Forking hell 18:02 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 18:02 microcarrot lolol: why would you fork hell? 18:02 microcarrot fork minetest instead 18:02 microcarrot :P 18:02 khonkhortisan So script.php is php "in" an html file, where only the php is evaluated and the html is treated like comments. 18:03 lolol Forking hell means f**king hell 18:03 sfan5 GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER SPOTIFY! LET ME FUCKING HEAR MUSIC NOW! 18:03 microcarrot lol 18:03 microcarrot lolol: this is a highly unfiltered audiance... 18:03 CraigyDavi Use soundcloud then :P 18:04 PenguinDad The forking hell must be an awful place! Because there a forks everywhere. 18:05 CraigyDavi The gateway to forking hell: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/network 18:05 Jordach wait what 18:05 Jordach GIT: maciej.kasatkin@o2.pl commited to minetest/minetest_game: Fix semitransparent pixel in bread's texture. 579c279be2 2014-05-20T19:58:30+02:00 http://git.io/nLsb9g 18:05 Jordach WTFD 18:05 Jordach MTG is frozen 18:05 khonkhortisan knifing hell had a lot of death, spooning hell had PDAs, sporking hell was kind of confusing. 18:06 nman3600 hi 18:06 khonkhortisan hello 18:06 CraigyDavi hi nman3600 18:06 nman3600 omg my legs are so weak and bad 18:08 nman3600 hi 18:09 nman3600 my legs are so painful 18:11 * microcarrot hits nman3600's legs with a baseball bat 18:11 microcarrot does that feel better? 18:11 PenguinDad lol my legs are quite strong 18:12 * Jordach has extremely strong bones, but weak muscles 18:12 Jordach i can barely walk up a incline of 15 degrees before my legs give 18:13 Jordach (but oddly i can walk for miles if it's flat terrain) 18:15 nman3600 the thing is i might have arthritis in my legs if you don't know what it is google it 18:18 nman3600 i was just sitting in my chair and then a huge pain just hit my legs i then stood up and my legs just collapsed and i was laying on my floor not able to move 18:18 microcarrot ouch 18:18 nman3600 yep 18:18 microcarrot nman3600: are you elderly or smtn? 18:19 nman3600 i am 10 18:23 Jordach the shit i find in my inbox 18:23 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Hqn1g4j9pVBv.png 18:27 rubenwardy I nearly never get spam 18:27 rubenwardy *almost 18:28 Jordach i just find it interesting, due to the contents of it 18:30 nman3600 i get loads of spam lol 18:31 CraigyDavi "a tried and tested formula for your willy size" 18:31 CraigyDavi lol 18:31 CraigyDavi I never get spam 18:31 CraigyDavi I use mailinator when they require an email but I don't want spam from them 18:31 Jordach my problem for having my mail public ;P 18:32 zsoltisawesome Jordach: make a junk email 18:32 rubenwardy I have rubenwardy@gmail.com public, and I still don't get any spam. 18:32 rubenwardy Actually, I never check the spam folder of rubenwardy@gmail.com... 18:32 rubenwardy (rubenwardy@gmail.com just forwards to my real email address) 18:32 khonkhortisan I have (now two, because I forgot about the first) bugzilla accounts, and they haven't spammed me 18:33 CraigyDavi That being said: https://mediacru.sh/kjNMnXK2qFQ-.png 18:33 khonkhortisan image error. 18:34 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/kjNMnXK2qFQ-.png 18:35 CraigyDavi It automatically sets email notifications to true when posting 18:35 CraigyDavi That's why I have changed my email on the forums to dog@cat.com 18:36 * CraigyDavi slaps forum moderators 18:37 Jordach already had a shout at the ShadowNinja 18:37 rubenwardy I hate it when software tells me that my name is Rubenwardy not rubenwardy 18:37 ShadowNinja Jordach: Hmmm? You can disable auto-subscribe in the UCP. 18:38 Jordach it should be off by default 18:38 Jordach you seem to think users will edit their UCP 18:38 Jordach guess a-fucking-gain 18:39 Jordach sfan5, ^ 18:39 sfan5 Jordach: tell one of the forum admins 18:39 CraigyDavi It defaults to subscribing you to the topic 18:40 ShadowNinja I'm not sure if the default default is configurable. 18:40 Jordach if you rely on users to edit their settings when all they want to do is post, then you've got a fucking issue 18:40 CraigyDavi When using the tickbox when posting it does not save that information for the next time when posting 18:40 sfan5 Jordach: you should try this when you're angry: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/GAlx8oOsSTkz.png 18:41 Jordach that doesn't fucking help 18:41 sfan5 PETTING KITTENS ALWAYS HELPS! 18:41 Jordach considering it'll just come around again when another user complains 18:41 sfan5 にゃん 18:41 nman3600 KITTENS!!!! 18:41 sfan5 then pet more kittens 18:42 * sfan5 throws some 猫's at Jordach 18:42 * nman3600 pets all the kittens 18:42 sfan5 s/'// 18:48 CraigyDavi ShadowNinja, If you run this SQL query it will update all existing and new users to not be notified when posting a new thread http://pastie.org/private/fnm7atlmpcvsuk7uzps6ug 18:49 CraigyDavi I used that on my old phpbb forum ages ago 18:49 Jordach hold on 18:49 Jordach did i just see competence in #minetest 18:49 CraigyDavi or go to includes/functions_user.php and change user_notify to 0 (only for new users) 18:50 CraigyDavi But I'm sure it would be best for all existing users too though :) 18:51 CraigyDavi and yes Jordach you did :) 18:51 Noogah It would be really great if there was a way to migrate something from one server to another 18:51 Jordach Noogah, migrating minetest severs are easy 18:52 Jordach just copy the conf, games folder, and worlds over (and recompile) 18:52 VanessaE hi 18:52 VanessaE zat: pong 18:52 CraigyDavi hi 18:52 * VanessaE ignores the rest of the scrollback. tl;dr 18:53 Noogah No, I mean, I have a creation on Redcrab that I wish I could transfer to VannesaE's server 18:53 VanessaE Noogah: Sokomine can help you with that 18:53 * VanessaE pokes Sokomine and sfan5 18:54 sfan5 hm? 18:54 Noogah Really? 18:54 VanessaE unless you just want to build it from scratch of course 18:54 Noogah No, I spent months working on it. Not really into rebuilding it 18:54 Noogah So it's really possible? 18:54 VanessaE sfan5: remember the map caching thing you two worked on? seems like it might be of use here unless his part of Redcrab's server is already in Sokomine's cache 18:55 Noogah Vanessa, I contacted sfan to get his map caching client for that precise reason 18:56 Noogah Except, I didn't know it could be used like that. I was going to work on a bot to rebuild it brick by brick :P 18:56 sfan5 VanessaE: saving the map to disk, not caching 18:56 VanessaE sfan5: yes, disk cache :) 18:56 VanessaE I was being generic :) 18:58 Noogah Well, anyways, are you saying that data could be plopped straight into the server? 18:58 VanessaE anyways, if Sokomine still has the version of that modified client that can sign onto and capture Redcrab's map, she should be able to grab the appropriate parts and get a worldedit file to me, which i can transplant onto any of my maps 18:58 Noogah Cool! I think I can produce that file for you, Vanessa 18:59 VanessaE oh ok 18:59 VanessaE sure, do that then 18:59 Noogah Awesome! 18:59 VanessaE forum pm/file attach or email me the file and we'll work out where to put it 19:00 Noogah Excellent! Will do. Thanks a lot 19:01 zat VanessaE: your impressions plz → http://uppix.com/f-screenshot_40292537ae36f0016791b.jpg 19:01 zat 100% plantslibless 19:02 VanessaE zat: oh yes, I saw that 19:02 VanessaE it looks good 19:02 VanessaE but you have to include controls like the ones I described 19:02 zat VanessaE: I added a new option moretrees.enable_plantslib 19:02 VanessaE detect the presence of plants_lib and work against that instead 19:02 VanessaE if minetest.get_modpath("plants_lib") then ...... it's enabled ........ end 19:03 zat you mean try to use plants_lib if available? 19:03 VanessaE yes 19:03 zat well, enable_plantslib can come on by default 19:03 VanessaE hm 19:03 VanessaE ok do that then 19:03 VanessaE or better, 19:04 VanessaE you reading that option from minetest.conf? 19:04 zat the thing is that the user must define the correct biomes 19:04 zat I am adding it to the settings file of moretrees. 19:04 zat default_settings.txt I think 19:04 VanessaE oh ok 19:04 Jordach oh god 19:04 Jordach moretree size trees look like shit 19:05 zat greenish brown and smelly? 19:05 zat D:!!!!!!!! 19:05 VanessaE Jordach: you're just used to little bitty bush-sized default trees :P 19:05 * Jordach sniggers about bush 19:05 Jordach :3 19:06 Krock VanessaE, would it be possible for you to make a 3/4 version of the current hugesequoia? 19:06 Jordach just because it's small doesn't mean skilled / powerful ;) 19:07 Krock Cuz I don't liek that single tree's size :3 19:08 rubenwardy bye all! 19:11 VanessaE Krock: use the "tiny trees" mod if you want that 19:11 VanessaE and sure, it's possible 19:11 VanessaE I think it's coded to just need to turn down the number of iterations for that tree model 19:12 zat that all should be C++... seriously 19:12 Krock VanessaE, hmm just changing that number? Thanks, I'll try that 19:12 VanessaE zat: what should be? 19:12 zat is there code to generate trees in the core? 19:12 zat VanessaE: every code to generate trees 19:12 VanessaE zat: yes. 19:12 VanessaE that's what L-systems does 19:13 VanessaE you supply a model, the core does the rest 19:13 zat why not use that for moretrees? 19:13 VanessaE I do. 19:13 zat uh lol 19:13 VanessaE moretrees just has a lot of code there to vary the models somewhat to keep them from being too repetitive. 19:13 zat I thought that moretrees calculated how to make grow the tree 19:13 asl i like that tree, plant a huge amount of it and logout, the next time i login, there would be a huge lag spike :P 19:13 VanessaE oh fuck no 19:14 VanessaE I use L-systems to grow them 19:14 zat if you mean minetest.spawn_tree, I saw that already 19:14 zat VanessaE: what I mean, is taking to the core the code that make the trees to be different 19:14 zat there should be a way to specify rules for a tree on hwo to grow 19:14 VanessaE oh, nah 19:14 VanessaE that code isn't slow at all 19:14 VanessaE we're talking microseconds to make those decisions 19:15 Jordach hello Esteban 19:15 zat well it is true, the changes I have made to moretrees make it run super fast. 19:15 Esteban Hello 19:15 zat well, without plants lib, of course. 19:15 VanessaE zat: yes, because plants_lib has to evaluate the map 19:15 VanessaE mgv7 doesn't 19:19 zat yea lololol} 19:19 zat brb I will be back in HOURS! 19:19 zsoltisawesome lalal 19:20 Mikerhinos hi 19:20 VanessaE hi 19:21 zsoltisawesome hi 19:21 zsoltisawesome (hi battle) 19:21 Mikerhinos lol 19:22 zsoltisawesome lol 19:23 zsoltisawesome A wild Mikerhinos appears! 19:24 zsoltisawesome And in the latest news: MinetestBot is a female kitten! 19:24 zsoltisawesome ^that can talk 19:24 Mikerhinos reminds me that I installed "Pokemon Online Simulator" a few days ago to play with my 8y son, and he just bust my *ss the few games that we played...dammit...I was so good at video games 20y ago ! lol 19:25 zsoltisawesome lol 19:25 Vazon VanessaE is there a mod that will conflict the moretrees not into generating, but lettingthe mod load? 19:26 zsoltisawesome NO! well, maybe 19:26 VanessaE Vazon: snow biomes mod apparently gets in the way now :( 19:26 asl you can just disable spawning instead of finding a mod that conflict with it 19:26 zsoltisawesome its so stable that it can stand on one of its hands! "Latest stable version is 0.4.9" 19:27 Jordach [20:24:32] I've invented a new drinking game named after Oscar Pistorius. Every time someone visits the bathroom, you have to take four shots 19:27 Vazon .... well then 19:27 zsoltisawesome lol 19:28 Vazon well i wonder if i merge the ice growing into the default game and remove the rest of the snow mod, if that will help 19:31 CraigyDavi minetest_game is frozen to new features 19:31 zsoltisawesome why? 19:31 zsoltisawesome CraigyDavi! 19:31 Jordach because 19:31 Jordach the point of minetest is to make your own game from it 19:31 Vazon Craigy to my minetest game, not the github one 19:32 CraigyDavi zsoltisawesome, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=138276 19:33 VanessaE Vazon: post in the snow biomes thread about it 19:34 VanessaE I wish I could remember who spotted that the other day 19:34 VanessaE zat, was it you? 19:34 Vazon wait, the snow mod by spizzard or the new one by somemone else? 19:34 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2290 19:34 VanessaE that one is the only one I know 19:34 VanessaE of 19:35 VanessaE other than paramat's snowdrift, which I know works fine 19:35 Vazon yea that is the one i use 19:36 Vazon VanessaE: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9270 19:37 zsoltisawesome anyone want a certain mod included in moontest? 19:37 VanessaE there, I posted about it 19:37 VanessaE Vazon: wait, I was not aware of that mod? 19:38 Vazon ya its new, like a week old 19:39 Vazon i havent tried it becuase i have altered my snow mod somuch and it seems to work fine till now. 19:40 nman3600 hi 19:40 Vazon Hello nman 19:40 nman3600 i need ideas for a name of a modpack it's not really a mod pack but it has a load of items that i will be adding? 19:40 nman3600 i am turning my shears mod into it 19:40 zsoltisawesome nman3600: Multitest? 19:41 nman3600 great idea thanks 19:41 zsoltisawesome :D 19:41 zsoltisawesome no prob 19:42 VanessaE ah it was Zefram_Fysh who reported the problem 19:43 Vazon Well do you think that mod would help our problem Vanessa? 19:45 VanessaE pardon? 19:45 Vazon the snow mod problem with it cuasing the plant_lib to not fuction properly 19:45 VanessaE oh I dunno 19:45 VanessaE let's see what Splizard says first. 19:46 zsoltisawesome hmm 19:46 Vazon ok 19:46 zsoltisawesome I did git add . 19:46 zsoltisawesome and then git push 19:46 Vazon for now i just moved my snow mod else where 19:46 zsoltisawesome and it said everything was up to date 19:46 zsoltisawesome even tho it wasn't 19:47 zsoltisawesome ... 19:48 zsoltisawesome GAH 19:55 nman3600 who wants a spoiler of my new mod/modpack thingy 19:55 nman3600 anyone? 19:56 zsoltisawesome sure 19:58 nman3600 i'll msg them to you zsolt 19:59 zsoltisawesome kk 19:59 VanessaE VanessaE: confirmed your snow mod issue locally. 20:00 zsoltisawesome lol 20:00 VanessaE can't fix it right now, I haven't the foggiest clue what the cause is 20:00 VanessaE fuck 20:00 VanessaE Vazon: ^^^^^^^ 20:00 VanessaE tab complete FAIL 20:00 Vazon lol im working on it right now, bit by bit 20:02 Vazon VanessaE i just thought of something. Maby it isnt the snow mod 20:02 VanessaE it's the snow mod, I'm testing it now. 20:03 Vazon Im using a 0.4.7 version of the snow mod, and it must have worked back then. but it doesnt now 20:03 VanessaE I'm using git 20:03 Vazon .... hold on 20:05 VanessaE Vazon: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2290&p=142223#p142223 20:06 Vazon VanessaE isthere any way for me to get a older version of the plant_lib? 20:06 VanessaE git clone it and then git checkout some commit ID from the log 20:07 VanessaE but it isn't plants_lib that's the problm 20:07 VanessaE it's the snow biomes mod 20:07 webdesigner97 Hi :) 20:07 VanessaE it's overriding the results of plants_lib's mapgen hools 20:07 VanessaE hooks 20:07 VanessaE hi webdesigner97 20:07 Vazon then why is my 0.4.7 version ofthe snow mod doing it? 20:08 Vazon since it was all redone do to 0.4.9 breaking the snow mod 20:08 webdesigner97 Just throwing this in: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9316 20:08 VanessaE it has nothing to do with the minetest version 20:08 VanessaE nor plants_lib 20:08 VanessaE I think I know the issue 20:08 Vazon ok 20:11 * NekoGloop places a kitten in the general vicinity of VanessaE 20:12 VanessaE meow. 20:12 Megaf Thisi s really cool http://fedora.org/#/-82/64/82/-4/0/0 20:12 * VanessaE pets the kitten and puts it in OldCoder's pile 20:12 Megaf http://fedora.org/#/-72/64/-640/-1/0/0 20:12 Megaf We should have a mapper like that 20:12 webdesigner97 WOT warns me about visiting this site 20:12 VanessaE Megaf: looks like onomotopaea 20:12 VanessaE or however it was spelled. that minetest mapper that xyz was working on 20:13 zsoltisawesome Hi! 20:13 OldCoder VanessaE, it is not a large pile; I attempt to place them in Kitten Care Facilities, remember. There are cushions, little mouse toys, and bowls of food and water. 20:13 * OldCoder is away on an errand for an hour 20:13 OldCoder 20:13 Jordach wait what 20:13 VanessaE except...those are minetest textures aren't they? 20:13 Jordach Megaf, why do fedora.org have MC 20:13 Megaf Jordach: nothing to do with Fedora Linux 20:14 Jordach easy mistake to make :D 20:14 Megaf That's how I got there 20:14 Megaf !tile 20:14 Megaf !title 20:14 MinetestBot Megaf: Minecraft Overviewer 20:15 Megaf Jordach: pretty impressive map 20:15 Megaf I wonder how could minetest have something like that 20:16 VanessaE Megaf: xyz's onomatopoeia mapper 20:16 VanessaE it did something very similar 20:16 VanessaE but it was never finished 20:16 VanessaE https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia\ 20:16 VanessaE https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia 20:17 Megaf https://github.com/xyzz/onomatopoeia 20:17 VanessaE double-ninja'd :) 20:17 Noogah Hey sfan, the .sst files within map.db seem to be updating alright 20:19 SoniEx2 does minetest support pitch? 20:19 zsoltisawesome john_minetest: :( i'm the only one in #brohoof 20:19 Megaf http://minetest.web1337.net/map.php 20:19 Megaf pretty cool 20:20 Megaf VanessaE: :) 20:20 VanessaE Megaf: yep, that runs onomatopoeia 20:20 VanessaE old textures though 20:20 VanessaE (old version of the map too :P ) 20:21 SoniEx2 as in playsound(somesound, ) 20:23 VanessaE Vazon: my guess about snow vs. plants_lib is that snow probably uses voxelmanip, and probably runs after plants_lib does. I was able to determine that plants_lib *does* run though. anyway snow biomes is overwriting plants_lib's changes to the map. 20:23 VanessaE that's why it doesn't work 20:23 VanessaE cheapie: I have a bone to pick with you ;) 20:24 cheapie ? 20:24 SoniEx2 anyone? :/ 20:24 cheapie Did I break something? 20:28 Amaz !title 20:28 MinetestBot Amaz: Trolling Saruman - YouTube 20:28 jojo__ May I get the link for the IRC server 20:29 Noogah What can you do with a map.db? 20:30 jojo__ I D k 20:30 Noogah I need to use this thing to get a usable map 20:33 Vazon ok 20:35 Vazon VanessaE did you changethe growth time for saplings?? becaue it is taking way long then 10 sec to grow. its taking up wards of a few min for them to grow 20:37 jojo__ VanessaE I need the link 20:37 VanessaE Vazon: the mapgen-spawned saplings start growing in 10 seconds but they're ABM based so they'll grow sporadically 20:37 VanessaE jojo: http://webchat.inchra.net/#minetest 20:37 SoniEx2 how do you play sounds? 20:38 VanessaE SoniEx2: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1561 20:39 SoniEx2 VanessaE, and where's the documentation for parameters? 20:40 Vazon ok 20:40 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L189 20:41 VanessaE no clue why the description of the parameters is so far-off-separated from the actual call 20:46 SoniEx2 no pitch ¬_¬ 20:52 * sfan5 goes to bed 20:52 zsoltisawesome sfan5: no wait! 20:52 sfan5 why? 20:53 zsoltisawesome does MinetestBot have !weather? 20:55 sfan5 no 20:55 * sfan5 goes to bed 20:56 zsoltisawesome anyone wanna see a large number? 20:57 microcarrot !c random.randint(1,1337) ** random.randint(1,1337) 20:57 MinetestBot 436179834404615013220867420290533994010210577247425507280489422129723113343255484461826481407725760739847767095847848949576537947485677839799837847671207131316231684808329978787891120944161100161524431719521388403432316986698112113633064794444359879267088899252949018958798666666496306749497547905657074307411833888334110361406664750684800367254691057780082836013080041948452656874331631886418779736677811087886509122448907907354215267264289624672474637 20:57 microcarrot ^thats pretty big 21:01 * diemartin smells someone putting on his kicking boots 21:03 Amaz !title 21:03 MinetestBot Amaz: Twenty Eight Feet: life on a little wooden boat from kevinAfraser on Vimeo 21:07 FreeFull !c 1337**1337 21:07 MinetestBot 434201689790289746940350076013759711365305822925722487722689582393493129734953392804650108109937507784602115080999945607625564989973095962620162866191163591209752756303755974310297687828213115917188305674739618582252296697510877029763340753328891799605935699580879367236485059945289387388223425758800434883555532049596297108687074349609896725891936863902681104758952388984784214788052776217596841386019773109528828839050516611384739730758293428777459215 21:08 FreeFull microcarrot: What, your number is larger than mine 21:23 Inocudom https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=142233#p142233-gsmanners put gsmapper on GitHub recently. 21:25 Inocudom There is a vast number of names on the side. Why are they there if they never type anything here. 21:28 CraigyDavi Not sure, some people have been away for a long time when doing a whois 21:30 Inocudom http://forum.freeminer.org/threads/craigs-32-bit-windows-freeminer-builds.124/#post-1150-Look like a commit the devs of it made broke chunk loading. 21:30 Inocudom Or did it? 21:31 zat I wasnt VanessaE lol 21:31 CraigyDavi Inocudom, they are just loading slowly? Or not loading at all? 21:31 Inocudom They are loading slowly. 21:32 Inocudom Changes made in chunks load slowly too. 21:32 VanessaE Inocudom: speaking of broke, 21:32 VanessaE your link is broke I think 21:32 VanessaE or not, just scroll to the bottom 21:33 VanessaE zat: eh? 21:33 CraigyDavi Hmm just trying it out now, adn they seem to load slightly slower in my opinion 21:33 CraigyDavi Freeminer is soon to merge the next branch into master *i think*. That could fix things. 21:34 zat VanessaE: you said that I could have been the one who spotted it but it wasn't me. D: 21:35 VanessaE oh, nope 21:35 VanessaE it was Zephram who did 21:37 VanessaE anyways, 21:37 VanessaE plants_lib DOES run 21:37 VanessaE but snow mod's mapgen changes are overwriting it 21:37 VanessaE I think it uses voxelmanip and if it doesn't run first, it's gonna render plants_lib inert :( 21:40 Vazon yes the snow mod does use voxelmanip i was reading the files i found where it said that 21:43 Inocudom Who here remembers this mod? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8772 21:51 zat Inocudom: I dont :D 21:51 zat sounds like moretrees 21:56 Inocudom Yes, but it also has its own type of caves and oil springs (and a custom mapgen.) 21:57 zat is it still alive? 21:58 Inocudom I hope so. Try making a post in its topic and see what happens. 22:05 Inocudom Hmm. No oil, but the mod does include a cluck and does generate ores in gravel. Its caves are an improvement too. 22:06 Inocudom Also has this very colorful breed of tree. You might want to look at this mapgen, VanessaE. 22:06 Inocudom And it has underground water springs (and lava, of course.) 22:06 VanessaE screenshot of said tree? 22:07 VanessaE (and please don't just randomly sign off this time :P ) 22:08 Inocudom I don't see any screenshots of one. I will have to make one. 22:09 Inocudom One user known as minimus uploads his pictures as forum attachments and then displays them in his topics. I thought pictures couldn't be uploaded as attachments? 22:18 Inocudom Mimilus uploads his images like what is seen in the following post: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=141639#p141639 22:22 VanessaE I think that was changed with the new forum software 22:22 VanessaE or he figured out the download URL for the image 22:22 VanessaE or both :) 22:23 VanessaE I guess as long as you can plug in a valid image URL between two [img][/img] tags, it'll work 22:42 Inocudom Considering the lavender tree, it is actually a small bush. 22:42 Inocudom Has anyone here ever tried out Carbone and Minetest Plus? 22:42 Inocudom No server that I know of uses them at all. 22:42 zsoltisawesome I haven't _yet_ 22:43 VanessaE if I had the resources, I might set up servers running Carbone and BFD 22:43 Inocudom They work in Freeminer too, by the way. Very good news for those that don't like flowing dirt/sand/gravel. 22:43 VanessaE not familiar with Minetest-Plus 22:44 zsoltisawesome Inocudom: flowing? 22:44 Inocudom Well, you just made a free-for-all server. You could have had it use Carbone or Minetest Plus. 22:44 Vazon how do you disable drowning in 0.4.9? 22:45 Inocudom Indeed zsoltisawesome. Indeed. In the default game for Freeminer, they flow like water. 22:45 VanessaE I wanted to keep it fairly basic, stick with what I know 22:46 Inocudom But, that feature is only in the default game. Use any other game type and they will not flow. 22:54 Exio4 flowing dirt/sand/gravel 22:54 Exio4 wtf 23:03 zat “VanessaE: did you remember control for perlin regions, elevation, humidity, temperature, and nearness to water?” 23:03 zat ↑ how do I see that? 23:03 VanessaE you have to code it by hand. 23:03 VanessaE check how I did it in plants_lib 23:04 zat Can't I just set that on the biome options? (v7) 23:04 VanessaE probably 23:04 VanessaE but idk how those biomes work 23:05 VanessaE each of those probably has some mapgen-related biome control you can tap into in mgv7 23:06 zat they have heat_point and humidity_point in their settings, VanessaE. 23:07 VanessaE *shrug* try them and see what they do 23:07 zat lol yeah llololol 23:07 VanessaE nearness to water can probably be emulated by tapping into the same biome settings that govern how water is placed at all 23:08 VanessaE (just with more generous limits + always requiring dirt_with_grass to spawn on) 23:08 zat that is possible, I have seen it 23:09 zat you can say... generate only on dirt_with_grass and at max 5 blocks away from water 23:11 VanessaE yes, something like that 23:11 VanessaE I think some of moretrees will go up to 15 or 20 nodes from water though 23:11 VanessaE also don't forget palms grow on sand near water :) 23:13 zat yes thats the first thing I did, making palm grow on sand. 23:13 zat but must they be near water? 23:14 zat or rather... how near? 23:14 VanessaE I think I have them set to be within 10m 23:15 VanessaE check the biome table, there's a text file in the moretrees dir 23:15 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees/blob/master/tree_biomes.txt 23:35 microcarrot !tell Jordach WindHero has a question for you 23:35 MinetestBot microcarrot: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around 23:36 WindHero and what question is that? :s 23:46 Esteban Now I can chat :P 23:46 Esteban It couldnt connect for a while 23:47 Guest24058 Why did it changed my nick? 23:47 Guest24058 -.-' brb 23:48 zsoltisawesome hi Guest 23:48 Guest24058 Its supposed to say Esteban -.- 23:48 Guest24058 Hi zsoltiawesome 23:48 zsoltisawesome ./nick Esteban 23:49 Guest24058 thanx 23:49 zsoltisawesome no prob 23:49 Esteban97 close enough xD 23:49 Esteban97 thanks for the help! 23:50 WindHero if your name was forcefully changed 23:50 WindHero it means it's registered, and you need a password 23:51 zsoltisawesome bye all 23:51 Esteban97 ohh, and how I set a password for this? 23:51 zsoltisawesome I am vacating IRC for a while 23:52 Exio4 who is this Esteban97 23:52 zsoltisawesome ./ns register I think 23:52 WindHero ./ns help register 23:52 Esteban97 ok, brb 23:52 * WindHero headdesks 23:54 Esteban97 back, thanks guys! I now realize already had that nick :P 23:54 Esteban97 Hopefully this wont happen again, so, hows everybody? 23:55 WindHero fine 23:55 WindHero trying to deal with a tough LVM problem 23:55 WindHero well, 23:55 WindHero now it's more ABM issues than LVM 23:57 Esteban97 hi Noogah 23:57 Noogah Hey there! 23:57 Noogah Does anybody know how to view the contents of a world.db file? 23:58 Esteban97 a .db file? let me check