Time Nick Message 00:17 Vazon proller are you there? 00:27 Exio4 the graphics driver of vbox are shit 00:28 Exio4 windows crashed, silverlight crashed, MC sometimes crashes (used it for testin' some things) 00:31 WindHero that is pretty bad 00:36 Megaf !seen Jessch8281 00:36 MinetestBot Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen jessch8281 around. 00:36 Megaf !seen Gronx 00:36 MinetestBot Megaf: gronx was last seen at 2013-12-27 17:26:39 UTC on #minetest 00:36 Megaf !seen sin 00:36 MinetestBot Megaf: Sorry, I haven't seen sin around. 00:37 Vazon Ello's Megaf 00:38 Megaf Hey Vazon 00:38 awesomess3 on servers how do you report someone if they destroy property? 00:38 Vazon Megaf can you log in to my server and report the lag to me plz 00:38 Vazon minetest.org 30012 00:39 Megaf sure, hold on 00:39 Megaf minetest.org? 00:39 Vazon yes 00:39 Vazon OldCoder is hosting it 00:40 OldCoder Megaf, this is a temporary copy that may be down soon. But use it as you wish until then. 01:07 Zeno` Hi. Should writing mods be discussed here or in another channel? 01:09 VanessaE here. 01:09 VanessaE this is the catch-all channel for minetest stuff 01:10 Zeno` Ok, thanks. I'm trying to add a new ore and looking at moreores as a reference, but I'm not sure if it's using the latest API. I note that in mapgen.lua that default.generate_ore() is deprecated. So I'm getting confused 01:11 Zeno` Are the docs on the minetest wiki up to date? 01:14 Zeno` I guess what I'm asking is do I just have to do this: http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_ore 01:24 Exio4 VanessaE: 96 isn't a nice average for a DPI 01:26 Exio4 ppi * 01:26 VanessaE well whatever it is 01:26 VanessaE mine's average :P 01:29 Exio4 117.51 is my actual PPI (netbook), 102.46 is my desktop's, lots of "high-end" laptops high DPIs are common (high as over 120, no extremely-high) 01:30 Exio4 the other screen in my house has a 107 DPI 01:30 Exio4 PPI whatever 01:31 VanessaE [ 4.669] (II) fglrx(0): DPI set to (96, 96) 01:32 Exio4 use an online calculator 01:32 Exio4 !g ppi calculator screen sven 01:32 MinetestBot Exio4: http://www.sven.de/dpi/ 01:38 VanessaE meh 01:40 VanessaE 100 PPI in my case, by that site. 01:41 VanessaE had to get the tape measure out, these are actually a tiny fraction over 20" diagonal (coulda sworn they were 21) 01:43 Exio4 i don't have any ruler for some unit of measure that isn't worth existing 01:44 VanessaE I just used my seamstress tape :P 01:45 VanessaE 96 is still a good baseline if you're a cheapskate like me :) 01:45 VanessaE (read: doesn't buy retina monitors :P ) 01:48 Exio4 anyway 01:48 Exio4 i'd like to know the actual relation of inches <-> yards <-> miles 01:49 VanessaE 36 inches to a yard, 63360 inches in a mile 01:49 VanessaE :P 01:49 Artemis3 thankfully its only a couple of obscure countries using those 01:50 Artemis3 and USA. 01:50 VanessaE yeah, some backwater place over on this side of the Atlantic 01:50 VanessaE :) 01:50 Exio4 VanessaE: i mean, metric system is just *10 /10 01:50 Artemis3 just zeroes yes 01:50 VanessaE yup 01:51 Exio4 is there any relation in the conversion between inches, yards, etc 01:51 Exio4 any polynomial function you could use for this? 01:51 VanessaE I presume it's because 12 is divisible between more values than 10 01:51 VanessaE 2, 3, 4, 6, versus just 2 and 5. something about construction 01:52 Exio4 4 and 6 are just combinations of 2 and 3 so i don't take them 01:52 Exio4 :P 01:52 VanessaE I don't remember the history behind the customary system 01:55 Exio4 well, if you have a function that takes two variables and where 0 is a metre/meter and +3 is km ad -3 is mm you could make a function f(x,y) = x*10^y and bam! you got it! (x = meters, y = to what unit you want to convert it) 01:56 VanessaE I never said customary units make any sense :) 01:56 Exio4 if something doesn't make sense, why does it exist 01:56 VanessaE inertia 01:57 VanessaE why do Brits still use Pounds Sterling while everyone around them uses Euros? 01:59 Exio4 i'd say because their currency was actually going good 02:00 VanessaE were most of the other countries' currencies doing okay? 02:01 VanessaE the same can be said for customary units here. they make zero sense (especially to geeks :) ) except in very limited circumstances, but for most people, they're just fine. 02:01 Exio4 tell me a place where a inch/yard/mile/whatever makes sense 02:02 VanessaE measuring lumber for building. 02:03 VanessaE because having units that are conveniently divisible into quarters, thirds, etc. in that case is about the only time I can think of that it makes some sense 02:03 Exio4 quarters? thirds? 02:03 VanessaE yes 02:03 Exio4 0.25 and 0.3^ 02:03 VanessaE yes I get that 02:04 Exio4 using decimal seems way easier than using units that don't directly convert between them (using the same formula) 02:04 VanessaE don't ask me how it works out that way but for some people, it does 02:05 Exio4 if i'm used to count using only odd numbers, someone telling me to use even numbers too will make "my workflow" break even though it makes way more sense 02:05 VanessaE the same can easily be said of metric 02:05 VanessaE for folks who can't adapt 02:08 Exio4 i miss running my FX all time 02:09 Exio4 i'll plug it to an old crt around (no decent screen around) 02:09 Exio4 maybe i'll be able to play some game too 02:09 Exio4 running nice games at 1024x768 probably means i'll get super-l33t FPSs at mid-to-high settings :P 02:11 Exio4 i can't wait to the moment when this laptop is unlocked 02:11 Exio4 laptop unlocked => i'll be able to install any distro => happy exio 02:11 Exio4 :D 02:12 VanessaE unlocked? 02:12 VanessaE why's it locked? 02:13 zat lets guess, password in the bios so unable to boot from any media. 02:13 VanessaE I assumed that as the "how", but that doesn't answer "why" 02:14 VanessaE (but then, can't he clear the CMOS with a jumper like most PCs?) 02:14 zat because the password wont let you change what media to boot 02:14 zat eh 02:14 Exio4 this is a gov laptop 02:14 VanessaE nono why as in why did someone lock it. ^^^^ that's why. 02:14 zat the government has special jumpers 02:15 Exio4 zat: a chip, if it only was the bios, i'd have reset it in a few hours 02:15 zat they lock it so you wont wipe out their tracking software. 02:15 Exio4 i removed lots of shits from the linux install 02:15 Exio4 but i still can't wipe everything and actually left the windows install "somehow default" 02:15 Exio4 because the apps for being able to unlock the hardware is there 02:16 VanessaE ick. 02:17 Exio4 (i need the "certs" of the school server and shits, and i don't really want to mess with my laptop's hw too much when this laptop is actually mine, i already ended the high school so it needs to be unlocked by the "IT admin" (who is probably a dumbass)) 02:17 Exio4 also, sad thing, this laptop's gpu is an Intel GMA 3600 02:18 Exio4 it is actually a shitty gpu with shitty blob drivers that work non-where and the basic FOSS support is in a newer kernel version, and tbh i don't want to mess too much with the boot until the laptop is full unlocked) 02:20 Exio4 and when i got it rly free, debian sid \o/ 02:20 Exio4 + deb stable container (running full-time because they're so light :D) 02:21 Exio4 *yawn* 02:23 zat all that chip thing is kind of creepy 02:23 Exio4 it isn't a thing the OS sends for being able to boot or shit like that 02:23 Exio4 it is pre-everything 02:24 VanessaE sounds like UEFI 02:24 VanessaE oh misread. 02:24 zat still I dont get what for 02:24 zat what does it even do? 02:25 zat ...other than annoying 02:25 Exio4 after 600 boots or 30 days or something the laptop locks down and til you don't take it to school it doesn't unlock 02:25 Exio4 (600 boots outside the "school", if you get there with the windows app, it'll check the certs and shit and realize "you are a legit student") 02:26 Exio4 the same happens in linux with a insane daemon i removed and did shred so i hope i don't see it back here 02:27 Exio4 the sad thing about linux here is that the linux distro they give us run like shit 02:27 Exio4 think about it this way: X11 has about 0.1 to 0.5s of INPUT LAG 02:28 VanessaE ouch 02:28 Exio4 the cpu, actually a very shitty one, a dual core intel atom n2600 has to render everything 02:28 Exio4 a 1.6ghz dual core hyperthreaded atom 02:29 Exio4 i'd say my AMD duron at 900mhz + alittle sis315 (that probably had better linux support than the gpu with this kernel) worked way better than this 02:29 VanessaE damn, a RPi is almost faster than that :) 02:30 Exio4 also, my older netbook (a real one i got as family gift) with an intel n270, intel gma something worked waaaay better 02:30 Exio4 anyway, i can't compare the systems 02:30 Exio4 the n270 netbook had a gentoo 02:30 Exio4 i took the hdd out of it (the laptop is now dead), and put it in my FX, the kernel didn't recognize ANYTHING 02:31 Exio4 used a generic kernel and nothing actually worked 02:31 Exio4 a few apps :P 02:31 Exio4 half of the stuff crashed (boot time) and i wasn't able to even run a ssh iirc 02:31 VanessaE heh 02:32 Exio4 it was funny you know 02:32 Exio4 you had an hdd that would only work with a single laptop 02:32 Exio4 it didn't even have vesa drivers for anything :P 02:33 Exio4 well whatever 02:34 Exio4 this looks a catharsis lol 02:34 Exio4 like a* 02:34 VanessaE heh 02:34 Exio4 i can't even think a phrase that makes sense right now 02:35 VanessaE then take a short break 02:35 Exio4 i need to sleep :P 02:35 VanessaE or do that 02:38 Exio4 i'll do that after i get a working hqx binary 02:42 Exio4 how the fuck can hqx take so much time 02:42 VanessaE dunno :) 02:44 Exio4 also, i miss 1080p 02:53 Zeno` can somebody have a *very* quick look at https://github.com/Zeno-/mtz_geology ? My sounds aren't working but I don't know if it's the mod or something else in general. It's not meant to be pretty yet, so ignore the ugliness please 03:03 VanessaE seems right to me 03:04 Zeno` ok, I broke something else then. Thanks 03:09 zat omg why are new players so retard... they just enter the world and hit each other until they kill or get killed, then repeat. 03:10 zat its full of bones near the start of the world 03:12 VanessaE and this, folks, is why I removed the bones mod from all of my servers and my game. 03:13 zat I dont just because I cant stand the idea someone keep their stuff when respawned 03:13 zat where is the penalty of dying then! 03:14 Zeno` I hate those bones 03:16 zat know what... bones should be invisible for all other players. 03:25 VanessaE invisible? 03:25 VanessaE as in the whole node? 03:25 VanessaE that's...um...impossible I think 03:25 Artemis3 try lava :3 03:25 VanessaE zat: as for penalty, simple: the time it takes to get back to where you were. if you play enough, you might have been 10km away from the spawn, and G*d knows how deep underground 03:26 zat VanessaE: I prefer making the player lose everything!!!!!! 03:26 VanessaE fuckno 03:27 Artemis3 teleport vs lose items... 03:27 VanessaE considering the mess that bones have a tendency to create for everyone *else*, I repeat: fuck no. 03:28 zat then make all the items drop. 03:29 Artemis3 after two days digging i found my first diamond! oopps lava -_-! 03:29 Artemis3 who knows if i relog in that server or start again elsewhere :) 03:30 zat Artemis3: trying in server Digitalis makes much more sense actually. 03:32 Artemis3 whats the ip for that? 03:33 Artemis3 oh well i see a bunch including digitalis 03:34 zat a bunch? 03:34 zat sounds like a bug 03:35 Artemis3 Xanadu, Onez, Clip Shanes, Lag, Digitalis Sockbat's, LandRush, VanessaE (too many) Craigs, Sky, Ethic Rush Adventuretest some ip, LinuxGaming.us, CG72's, Road, Backbone... 03:36 zat there is only one Digitalis lol 03:36 Artemis3 haha yeah 03:37 Artemis3 but many VanessaE 03:37 zat a bunch including... sounds like all including the world. 03:37 zat yes VanessaE is omnipresent. 03:37 VanessaE my servers are digitalaudioconcepts.com. a domain I've had since before minetest existed :P 03:37 zat wtf happened to the light boxes of homedecor D: 03:38 zat I cant find them 03:38 VanessaE you mean glowlights? 03:38 VanessaE they're still there 03:38 VanessaE if they aren't there, it means some other mod is re-defining them to remove them from your inventory 03:40 zat maybe 03:41 Artemis3 let's try.. 03:43 Artemis3 omg sounds 03:43 Artemis3 scary 03:48 zat lmao 03:48 Artemis3 well guys sure run fast there 03:48 Artemis3 unified inventory is nice 03:50 zat I am trying Xanadu's 03:50 zat what is so great about it? 03:51 Artemis3 hmm no autopickup where is the stuff? 03:52 Artemis3 oh there it is, just lag 03:53 Artemis3 umm touhou character names 03:53 Artemis3 freaks server :3 03:53 zat lolol 03:53 zat seems pretty virgin actually 03:53 zat I was playing over there in the morning but didnt do much 04:04 Artemis3 the inventory lag is too much 04:05 zat its worth it! 04:08 Artemis3 its like 1min from picking object to show 04:08 zat is it THAT bad? 04:08 Artemis3 yes 04:09 Artemis3 i would probably not be able to play there 04:09 zat try messaging the admin 04:10 zat is/her username is God, and he will enter if you do something to call his attention lol 04:11 Artemis3 doubt the admin can do much, unless its torrenting something 04:11 WindHero yes, finally got some proper moontest-exclusive ores and tools implemented 04:14 zat I think he was actually torrenting 04:14 zat I messaged him/her (I know him/her) 04:15 Artemis3 lol 04:15 Artemis3 im joining Xanadu in the meantime 04:17 zat Artemis3: try it again, he messaged me back saying it should be fine now. 04:17 zat I am joining now too. 04:22 kaeza blarghargh https://gist.github.com/kaeza/a5f79a33bf0365d6faa5 04:26 zat quedé de kaeza leyendo eso 04:26 kaeza :D 04:26 kaeza (P.S: al fin alguien entiende mi nick) 04:27 zat siempre pensé que podría significar algo así... 04:28 kaeza zat, remove the testing code and you got a nice small OO lib with (multiple) inheritance, etc 04:28 kaeza not fast, not efficient, not nice, but OO! 04:28 kaeza s/lib/system/ or whatever 04:29 zat know too little of lua :( 04:31 zat it means moon *genius* 04:32 zat and was developed in brazil lol 04:32 zat that might explain why too many brazilian players 04:33 zat or it can be that Ñu/Linux distros are popular there... 04:33 zat who knows... any brazilian here? 04:35 kaeza huehuehue no 04:35 kaeza it's named "Lua" because it "orbits" around a main program (like the moon orbits around the earth) 04:35 kaeza eh nevermind 04:36 zat I though it was named lua to annoy sun and their java. 04:36 zat :D!!!!!! 04:37 zat sun...java, lua... opposite to sun (only from a standpoint on earth) 04:37 zat ...the chat is getting truly deep at this time I see, 04:39 kaeza interesting way to think about it :P 04:41 * kaeza has a new signature 04:42 zat show it 04:42 zat show it to me kaeza~ 04:42 zat show me your lower kaeza~ 04:43 kaeza <3 https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3279 04:44 zat (lmao) 05:15 us`0gb Is "Lua" a moon-related word in some language then? 05:18 VanessaE yep 05:18 VanessaE I forget which language, I keep thinking Spanish-related though 05:19 VanessaE Portugese probably :P 05:20 VanessaE What's in a name? 05:20 VanessaE "Lua" (pronounced LOO-ah) means "Moon" in Portuguese. 05:20 VanessaE http://www.lua.org/about.html 05:21 VanessaE bbl 05:21 VanessaE bedtime 05:31 us`0gb I see. 05:31 us`0gb Good night VanessaE! 06:03 Krock hello world and good moring 06:32 VanessaE well as usual that didn't work out. 06:35 Krock hmm? 06:35 VanessaE can't sleep 06:36 Krock count the seconds until you do 06:36 VanessaE hah 06:36 VanessaE I'll just start coming up with some weird way to do it. count sheep? I'll start imagining nixie tubes for the numbers. etc. 06:37 VanessaE my mind just doesn't rest unless I burn out or take sleeping pills/liquids :( 06:40 * kaeza drops a bucket of lava on VanessaE's head 06:40 kaeza there, that should burn you out 06:40 kaeza :) 06:40 VanessaE I said burn OUT, not burn UP :) 06:57 * Krock made leveled snow having no loss when dug 07:05 VanessaE nice 08:01 VanessaE hi 08:04 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9196 08:04 VanessaE under "full game content" is a description of how the areas mod works 08:04 VanessaE (it's the same mod on Vanilla as on that game and elsewhere) 08:05 PenguinDad hey john_minetest 08:05 VanessaE john_minetest: OMG 08:05 VanessaE that is hilarious 08:09 VanessaE very VERY carefully :) 08:10 VanessaE I can only imagine the body shop repair bills for the car wrecks :P 08:20 VanessaE helps if I sign onto the right server :P 08:30 VanessaE I'm gonna try that whole sleep thing again. 08:30 VanessaE bbl. 08:34 * PenguinDad slaps his ISP 09:00 nman3600 hi all 09:06 RealBadAngel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opacity_%28optics%29 09:19 Krock cool - minetest uses not 110MB RAM instead of 150MB after update - but joining got nearly mpossible ... 09:50 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-AOw1xvQyY 09:50 RealBadAngel ^^ how do you like that? 09:57 Calinou le new menu 09:58 RealBadAngel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-AOw1xvQyY 09:58 RealBadAngel try again 09:59 Calinou john_minetest, clouds show if enable_clouds = false 09:59 Calinou finally 10:00 RealBadAngel doesnt feel any glitchy ingame 10:03 PenguinDad no sky colored background with menu_clouds = false :( 10:11 Calinou PenguinDad, would rather have dark background; easier on the eyes 10:24 nman3600 hia 10:36 nman3600 hi 11:08 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:24 iamtew hey guys, are there any recommended specs for running a minetest server? cpu, ram, disk and such? 11:24 iamtew the wiki is a wee bit thin on that 11:45 cerulean256 iamtew: depends on how many clients you want to support 11:46 cerulean256 a small server with 512 Mb and single core @ 2 ghz works fine for like 4 - 8 ppl on a local network. 11:46 cerulean256 at least it does for me :) 11:47 cerulean256 and I virtualize on top of that :p 11:48 cerulean256 if you want to make like your own MMO server farm you can go out and buy 10G NICs and servers with 12 cores and 96 G RAM. 11:48 cerulean256 ;) 11:50 iamtew ok cool :) 11:50 cerulean256 you know, I would actually be curious in the statisitcs of a single client - how much data needs to be allocated on the network to accomodate that client. 11:50 iamtew just thinking a server for me and a couple of friends 11:51 cerulean256 then you can calculate your requirements accordingly 11:51 iamtew but first the proof of concept going up on my home server.. I'll give it a small container first and we'll see how it goes, can always allocate more 11:51 cerulean256 you going to virtualize? 11:53 iamtew eh, not necessarily 11:53 iamtew I got OpenVZ containers running on a box here at home 11:54 cerulean256 ok.. I am curious as to how it plays out :) 11:54 cerulean256 let me know 11:54 iamtew will do 11:54 sfan5 meow 11:54 sfan5 hi everyone 11:56 * john_minetest gives sfan5 a <'((-< 11:56 * sfan5 noms the fishy 12:11 iamtew uh this is weird.. I get the followin error in my journal when trying to start up a default server: 12:11 iamtew May 17 09:12:00 minetest.lan minetestserver[1468]: 09:12:00: ERROR[main]: Subgame [] could not be found. 12:11 FreeFull Odd 12:13 sfan5 iamtew: add --gameid minimal or --gameid minetest_game 12:14 sfan5 or whatever subgame you are using 12:14 iamtew ok 12:15 iamtew can I specify this in the config file or do I need to go and modify the actual service file in systemd? 12:16 sfan5 you can specify this in world.mt 12:16 sfan5 echo -e "gameid = minetest_game\nbackend = sqlite3" > /world.mt 12:16 rubenwardy Hi all! 12:16 * sfan5 meows at rubenwardy 12:17 iamtew hm ok.. well I don't have a world yet as I haven't been able to start the server :) 12:17 iamtew I'll patch the service file first and give it a go 12:17 sfan5 just create an empty dir 12:17 sfan5 ^ 12:17 sfan5 you might also want to consider using leveldb instead of sqlite3: http://wiki.minetest.net/Database_backends 12:18 iamtew ok 12:19 iamtew well, this turned out to be a bit more fiddly than expected :-D 12:19 iamtew I'll pick it up later tonight, need to attend other things now 12:19 iamtew thanks for the assistance guys! 12:19 * iamtew afk 12:29 Hunterz anyone have lag when put/get item to/from a chest on the server? 12:30 reactor Maybe that's acoincidence? 12:30 reactor How much items? One? 12:30 Hunterz one 12:30 reactor How long does the lag last? 12:30 Hunterz gui is opened without lag 12:31 reactor The moving itself? 12:31 reactor How far away is the server? 12:31 Hunterz drag to chest 12:31 Hunterz wait some time 12:31 reactor Maybe it's waiting for the server's response for long? 12:31 Hunterz im using sqlite for map 12:32 reactor Ah, you run it locally and get lag? 12:32 Hunterz on local network 12:32 Hunterz dedicated server 12:33 Hunterz server is fine i7 with ssd and much ram 12:33 reactor ...that may be a bug. Why not ask in #minetest-code? 12:33 Hunterz dont know that channel 12:33 reactor Oh, also, look at processor load on the server while moving. 12:33 Hunterz thanks 12:33 reactor #minetest-dev* 12:34 Hunterz processor is fine, there running three instance of minecraft without lags :) 12:35 Krock I can't run MC. 12:35 reactor What happened? 12:36 Krock A meteorite crashed with sun. It burnt up 12:36 reactor иНЖАЛИД 12:46 Exio4 Hunterz: the "gui" is predicted locally afaik 12:59 diemartin https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10357836_826154934072186_5664524567073771012_n.jpg 13:09 Jordach zing 13:10 Krock Woo! 11th crash today :) 13:14 PenguinDad wtf did youtube smoke? 13:15 reactor youtube has always been like that 13:16 reactor They suck at everything. 13:16 PenguinDad it tells me "Dieses Video ist nicht verfügbar." but plays the sound of it o_O 13:16 reactor Yeah, totally. 13:16 reactor youtube-dl should relieve your problem. 13:17 reactor As well as free you from having to wait for the browser to fire up. 13:21 webdesigner97 hmm... Does anyone know how PilzAdam#s boats mod makes sure that only one boat drives when the player is in? My cars have the problem that they all start moving as soon as i press W.... 13:42 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix singleplayer dialogs missing game customization 87b4bce594 2014-05-17T15:32:51+02:00 http://git.io/NHzxVQ 14:28 diemartin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1H3JXqvj-U 14:32 Vazon Hi Megaf 14:44 rubenwardy !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRZ9gtHWqlc 14:44 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Minetest - Car Mod for Streets Mod - YouTube 14:49 rubenwardy What is the policy of moving mods to "Old Mods", if the owner does not request it? 14:50 rubenwardy Hello... good bye 14:51 PenguinDad http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15cfmb_my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-season-3-episode-1-2-the-crystal-empire-hd-no-watermarks_shortfilms lol 14:51 PenguinDad oops I pasted the wrong link http://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/25m9i1/why_do_conservatives_prefer_functional/chik86e 14:51 diemartin rubenwardy, if a mod does not work in the current version, and does not look like it will be updated, it should be moved 14:52 diemartin rubenwardy, source: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2053 14:53 diemartin is there any mod you want to report? 14:54 rubenwardy The fireworks mod is over 2 years old, and still uses entities. But there is no replacement, and it still works in 0.4.9-dev 14:55 diemartin oh that 14:59 diemartin well, don't see any problems if it still works, but dunno 14:59 diemartin maybe it will spark interest again now that the topic was brought back from the dead :P 15:06 Amaz The fireworks mod was the first mod I ever used... 15:10 PenguinDad the first mod I ever installed was sfan5's oil mod 15:11 Amaz Maybe a new subforum could be made: "Undeveloped mods" 15:11 * BlockMen thinks the first mod he ever used was moreflowers 15:11 Krock How about adding a try{ }catch{} thing around main()? I don't like crashes...it needs to load everything again after it did ... 15:11 diemartin 3dforniture[sic] <3 15:12 Krock hmm my first mod was technic - it took me 2 monthts to understand, "Hey, I need pipeworks and moretrees too!" 15:12 Amaz For mods that are no longer being developed 15:13 * diemartin wonders what happened with the cool ol' modders like bas, InfinityProject, etc 15:13 diemartin probably got one of those things called "life" 15:14 diemartin :D 15:14 diemartin D:* 15:15 BlockMen diemartin, lol 15:18 rubenwardy "forniture" annoys me 15:18 rubenwardy furniture! 15:18 Amaz ^ Yep! 15:19 diemartin fourniture! 15:19 reactor rubenwardy: me, too 15:19 reactor fornication 15:20 markveidemanis foobar 15:20 reactor fuehrer 15:20 reactor s/f/F/ 15:22 markveidemanis *gasp 15:22 Amaz Rubenwardy: Is the reason you had such difficulty driving the car in the video you made because it's left-hand drive? 15:23 rubenwardy Probably 15:23 rubenwardy The physics is pretty bad, as well 15:23 rubenwardy It rotates on the spot 15:23 Amaz Right. 15:24 reactor Also left. 15:24 rubenwardy In England, we drive on the right side of the road 15:24 rubenwardy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRZ9gtHWqlc 15:25 rubenwardy ^ could mean right/left or right/wrong 15:27 whiskers75 sfan5: the network is down 15:27 whiskers75 sfan5: because Fusl in #fnalerts is DDoSing my pie 15:29 Krock hint: don't use dedicated_server_step < 0.1 in a home network 15:45 whiskers75 sfan5: ping 15:46 whiskers75 sfan5: when you get this message, rejoin irc.kittenco.in 15:46 whiskers75 it should be back 15:49 sfan5 whiskers75: it keeps connecting & connecting (on the ssl port) 15:49 whiskers75 sfan5: ssl? 15:50 whiskers75 sfan5: maybe you're checking the cet 15:50 whiskers75 cert 15:50 sfan5 no 15:50 whiskers75 sfan5: any errors? 15:50 sfan5 xchat still says connecting 15:50 sfan5 it has not got any cert yet 15:50 whiskers75 sfan5: o.o 15:50 whiskers75 sfan5: try w/out ssl 15:51 sfan5 do you have the ssl key files? 15:51 whiskers75 yes 15:51 sfan5 the same happend with my ircd when I didn't have them 15:51 whiskers75 (that's because it wasn't listening) 15:51 sfan5 whiskers75: non-ssl does not work either 15:51 whiskers75 sfan5: irc.kittenco.in? 15:52 sfan5 ah wait 16:13 Jordach ehm 16:13 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/m8yyMt_QTu87.png 16:15 Krock Jordach, open office 16:16 Krock it's a open office writer file 16:16 Jordach libreoffice ftw 16:16 Calinou it's not an “open office writer file” 16:16 Calinou .odt is OpenDocument; can be edited by any compliant editor, not only LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org 16:21 sfan5 whiskers75: fix your irc 16:21 sfan5 whiskers75: also: sqlite3.c finished 16:21 whiskers75 sfan5: :D 16:21 whiskers75 sfan5: my router's rebooting 16:24 reactor Office is counterproductive. 16:25 Jordach bollocks 16:25 sfan5 whiskers75: how long is your router going to reboot? 16:25 Jordach i press F11 and go fullscreen 16:30 whiskers75 sfan5: meowww! D: 16:30 whiskers75 sfan5: somebody is DDoSing my pie again! D: 16:31 Krock pie as RPi? 16:31 sfan5 yes 16:31 reactor whiskers75: use limiting rules. 16:31 whiskers75 It's attacking the router level 16:31 * PenguinDad would like to have an Strawberry e 16:31 whiskers75 and I can't get a new IP. 16:32 Krock +1 PenguinDad 16:33 sfan5 whiskers75: Segmentation fault (core dumped) upon connecting 16:33 whiskers75 sfan5: to my pie? 16:33 whiskers75 or to your pie? 16:34 sfan5 on mine 16:34 whiskers75 using sasl? 16:34 whiskers75 sfan5: compile with gcc 16:37 Guest56688 This annoys me a bit 16:40 sfan5 Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 16:40 sfan5 0xb6faf61c in rb_vsnprintf (buf=0xbefff278 "\001", size=, fmt=, args=...) at snprintf.c:592 16:40 sfan5 592 end[-1] = '\0'; 16:40 sfan5 wat 16:40 sfan5 c does not work like that 16:41 markveidemanis I conclude that the whole alphabet is in use 16:41 markveidemanis The only nick without enforce is v 16:49 sfan5 https://i.imgur.com/y41pi4n.jpg 16:49 Calinou GarbageProblemCollector 17:03 sfan5 whiskers75: sqlite3.c 17:03 whiskers75 sfan5: meanwhile, in whiskers75 land, whiskers75 doesn't even have internet through his main router 17:04 whiskers75 I think someone hates my guts. 17:04 sfan5 whiskers75: you do know that a router without IP cannot be DoS'ed? did you try turning it off and on again? 17:05 whiskers75 sfan5: yes 17:05 whiskers75 sfan5: I've had this before 17:05 * sfan5 meows at whiskers75 17:05 whiskers75 sfan5: my isp is such that they only give you new IPs if you have another MAC address/ 17:05 * whiskers75 emits a sorry, broken, quiet meow in sfan5's direction. 17:06 sfan5 my ircd is running 17:06 whiskers75 sfan5: well I'm screwed 17:06 * markveidemanis immobilizes whosker75 17:06 * markveidemanis immobilizes whisker75 17:06 sfan5 >whosker 17:06 sfan5 wat 17:06 * whiskers75 is already immobilized 17:07 sfan5 whiskers75: how about you connect an we chat? 17:07 sfan5 and* 17:08 whiskers75 sfan5: I can't connect to anything without some form of cloak 17:08 whiskers75 this is a backup connection 17:08 sfan5 why not? 17:09 whiskers75 the person owning this will be mad if I get ddosd on it 17:23 nman3600 hi 17:27 zat saddasdsadsaadsdsasdasda 17:50 sfan5 whiskers75: status? 18:04 whiskers75 sfan5: still ddos 18:09 Jordach hey [PavelS] 18:14 whiskers75 sfan5: will be sleeping, expect no pinet till tommorow-later 19:01 MinetestBot w_laenger: 05-13 18:07 UTC hello. 19:01 w_laenger hi 19:01 MinetestBot w_laenger: 05-13 18:07 UTC hello. 19:02 w_laenger hi 19:21 * Jordach meows at MinetestBot 19:22 blaise !up midnightsystems.net 19:22 MinetestBot midnightsystems.net:30000 is up (456ms) 19:23 w_laenger !up midnightsystems.net 30010 19:23 MinetestBot midnightsystems.net:30010 seems to be down 19:24 blaise is this bad? [19:24:27] # Server: version=0.4.9, uptime=78523.1, max_lag=5.19414, clients={} 19:25 Jordach max_lag counts for the slowest player 19:25 Jordach NOT averaged 19:25 blaise ah 19:25 Jordach it can also include map loading 19:25 blaise I figured that since it said max 19:27 w_laenger there's a new mod 19:27 w_laenger which kills player if the server lags 19:27 w_laenger players* 19:27 Amaz That seems to me to just make things worse... 19:29 w_laenger not if these players are kicked instead 19:29 w_laenger so they can't cause more lag 19:30 w_laenger 504 Gateway Time-out on mediacru.sh 19:31 * Krocky is interested 19:31 Krocky w_laenger, link? 19:31 Amaz If they can be kicked, then that's good. 19:32 Amaz Krock: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8917#p141887 19:32 w_laenger https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8917#p141887 19:32 w_laenger sry 19:33 w_laenger kicking would be a bit hard 19:33 w_laenger but 19:33 w_laenger player:remove() 19:33 Amaz Yeah, but killing makes more lag... 19:34 w_laenger you can delete the player object 19:34 Amaz What good does that do? 19:34 w_laenger so this player can't interact and/or chat but he/she can read the chat 19:35 w_laenger he/she should get informed what happened that he/she doesn't build a house which becomes deleted 19:35 Amaz That doesn't seem to be the best way around it... 19:36 w_laenger I know, it's like kicking 19:36 Amaz The best way would be to kick all of the players. 19:36 w_laenger just change ca 3 lines 19:37 w_laenger the server doesn't immediately stop lagging if they left 19:37 w_laenger eg. fire, hardcore tnt 19:38 Amaz Yeah, but if everyone is kicked, things get better fast. 19:40 Krocky w_laenger, that's not the best soulation 19:40 w_laenger not if they rejoin at the same place https://github.com/HybridDog/minetest-nether/blob/master/nether/portal.lua#L67 19:42 w_laenger a good solution would be something to allow mods to interrupt a function at a specific place (eg with os.clock to check if it's lagging and then after some seconds it's allowed again) 19:43 w_laenger so the tnt just gets removed instead of exploding or particles aren't shown https://github.com/HybridDog/minetest_game/commit/70cabd0e8ca3b3d699389f5be1dd2dd43fbed3e3 19:44 w_laenger does anyone (except me and its creator) know the special_picks mod? 19:49 Krocky nope -^ 19:49 w_laenger wrong, there's one person I didn't mention 19:57 w_laenger http://is.gd/UxSX3C 20:21 crazyR is there anyone here, good at designing nodeboxes? 20:22 * Jordach hides (Jordach uses blender to create them) 20:22 crazyR lol, im after a skull shaped nodebox for bones mod 20:22 crazyR you up for the challange? 20:22 crazyR lol 20:25 CraigyDavi Just use nodeboxeditor. Can't be that hard 20:38 nman3600 hello 20:42 Jordach nman3600, http://i.imgur.com/BhgPD.png 20:42 Jordach FUCK 20:42 Jordach OH CMON 20:42 PilzAdam > Direct3D >FPS=10 20:42 Jordach PilzAdam, two years ago 20:43 Jordach by may 2013 that literally went up by 2.5x 20:43 Jordach (and we didn't have the OpenGL stuff as we do now, eg, stars, etc) 20:44 w_laenger star points 20:46 Jordach ho shit 20:46 Jordach found the world 20:46 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/download/ebdmpga5ybjwwf5/world.zip 20:46 PilzAdam Jordach, please remove the code tag from your signature, it's distracting 20:47 Jordach try again 20:47 Amaz I like the code tag. 21:28 Jordach PilzAdam, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/BCshOaVgsnI2.png 21:30 PilzAdam >OpenGL >60 FPS 21:30 FreeFull Is that unbelievable? 21:30 Jordach the unknown stuff is the old mesecons 21:31 Jordach and that bridge actually lit itself up at night 21:31 FreeFull Jordach: Want to try fixing it? 21:31 Jordach too much effort in fixing the jeija parts 21:31 Jordach although lots of aliases could do it 21:34 w_laenger why did I try to rebuild the monument of free in minetest? https://cdn.mediacru.sh/bvP-3CZUdBij.png 21:35 Jordach lincity! 21:36 w_laenger I know. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Monument_of_Free.png?uselang=de 21:38 PenguinDad *lincity-ng 21:38 * Jordach is starting to approach his AMD's limit of rendering 21:40 ShadowNinja Yay, fun... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7480440/ 21:47 w_laenger Python interface unloaded 21:52 w_laenger how can I load this python plugin again? 22:12 zat maybe newbie question... do leaves of trees grow again? 22:14 FreeFull They grew? 22:16 zat on mapgen 22:18 ShadowNinja zat: No, they don't. 22:18 zat ShadowNinja: my girlfriend is kind of a pyro in the game 22:18 zat and she is burning everything D; 22:23 ShadowNinja zat: /set disable_fire true ;-) 22:23 ShadowNinja BBL. 22:26 zat LLOL 22:46 blaise people use ubuntu? 22:48 zat maybe aliens do 22:54 zat I dont get it, what is the... paranoia here? 22:54 zat talking about spyware normally comes from paranoia. 22:55 zat the search terms? 22:56 zat that is just an opinion 22:58 PenguinDad /quit 22:59 zat if you want to make a point, you should be able to explain it by yourself. 23:00 zat I see stallman is calling it a spyware because it sends the search term for statistics. 23:01 zat Google must be spyware, under that logic, since they collect my searches as well. 23:01 zat and it is normally sent unencrypted as well 23:01 zat no, they can see what I typed to look for it. 23:03 zat it could if your files have sensitive info based names. 23:03 zat arent the users told about that when they install ubuntu? 23:04 zat well, thats like saying... who reads contracts? 23:04 zat that nobody reads them wont void them 23:04 zat if you get what I mean 23:05 blaise yes, I've aquired quite a number of souls like that... 23:05 blaise it's wonderful... 23:06 zat thats the error, thinking that free software means anything else than the freedom to use it and modify it and distribute it. 23:07 zat uh I want to watch it 23:07 blaise southpark has their own site 23:07 blaise you can watch all their eps for free 23:08 blaise my girlfriend is hopelessly addicted 23:09 zat uh=?? 23:10 zat its so hard to understand that fatty guy... whats his name? 23:10 zat english already is a pain to write, to speak it and listen to its horrible... 23:10 zat that one 23:11 zat only good thing, most of the time things are shorter in english, thats all. 23:38 VanessaE WTFPL :) 23:38 PilzAdam john_minetest, there are methods to detect how "complex" a text is 23:39 PilzAdam they used that on license agreements and found, that you need an academic grade to understand them, in most cases 23:39 PilzAdam the companies do that on purpose, you are not supposed to read it 23:39 VanessaE sfan5: can you check on the speed of the mapper. I just noticed in my stats that since switching to it, it's taking many times longer to produce maps than before 23:40 VanessaE s/\./\?/ 23:40 VanessaE since switching to the "official" one e.g. https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/ 23:41 VanessaE oh fuck me, it's generating the WHOLE map 23:42 VanessaE ..and it's blank. 23:42 VanessaE that ain't right. 23:43 VanessaE might not be the whole map, I can't be sure, but it IS blank. 23:45 arsdragonfly VanessaE: is colors.txt misconfigured? 23:46 VanessaE arsdragonfly: it's my colors.txt that I've been using for many months now. 23:59 PilzAdam !title http://youtu.be/xOCurBYI_gY