Time Nick Message 00:01 Zeno` ah, that'd be it then :) 00:01 VanessaE_ yup 00:01 Zeno` took me 3 days to carve it, lol 00:01 VanessaE_ if he tried to exceed a 100m high region, regardless of where the endpoints are, it'll reject it 00:02 Zeno` yeah it's probably 100 high and maybe 40 wide 00:02 Zeno` I'll think of something 00:03 Zeno` thanks again 00:10 Jordach ARE YOU KIDDING ME 00:10 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/V10wNfDd31I2.png 00:10 Jordach BloodPressure++; 00:13 VanessaE_ what's wrong with a bit of snow? 00:13 Jordach ARRGH 00:13 VanessaE_ or is it that little finger of ...something else on the side? 00:13 Jordach min_height = 60 00:13 VanessaE_ oh. 00:13 Jordach FUUUUUU 00:16 Zeno` snow keeps falling on my house as well 00:16 Zeno` http://i.imgur.com/h7pD65p.jpg 00:16 Zeno` I just cleared it off though 00:16 VanessaE_ that's rain. 00:16 VanessaE_ also, \o/ HDX 00:16 Zeno` well, there was snow all over him... i cleared it off ;) 00:16 Zeno` yep, HDX! 00:17 Zeno` I think 64px. Another thanks for that 00:17 VanessaE_ glad you like it 00:17 Zeno` it's a pretty amazing difference 00:31 floriel hi there 00:31 PilzAdam helloooo 00:33 floriel I'm trying to set up eclipse and koneki to debug lua in minetest...and failing 00:34 floriel does anybody know how to do it in linux? 00:35 PilzAdam sapier is the only one who uses it AFAIK 00:36 floriel well, let's try nail down my error 00:37 PilzAdam do you really need it? 00:37 floriel not if you know another way to debug lua 00:37 PilzAdam print() 00:37 floriel ;-) 00:38 PilzAdam its all I neede 00:38 PilzAdam +d 00:38 floriel a less masorchistic one 00:38 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/We7FtiTvsonj.png 00:38 PilzAdam what kind of mod do you want to create? 00:38 * Jordach wins the award for masochism with minetest 00:39 floriel for starters i want to debug some existing ones 00:39 PilzAdam and which ones? 00:39 floriel finding out, why unfied direktory doesn't recognise wood, ... 00:39 floriel inventory, not directory 00:40 hoodedice Jordach: 00:40 VanessaE_ maybe because it's probably being called up as group:wood 00:40 Jordach yes 00:40 hoodedice I suddest you make more of those new models 00:40 Jordach new models 00:40 * Jordach rolls head 00:40 hoodedice In fact, I ORDER you to make more of those new models 00:40 hoodedice The new female model in your custom game 00:40 Jordach flash me dogencoin then bitch 00:41 hoodedice I'm fucking broke myself, jerk 00:41 hoodedice #college 00:41 * VanessaE_ mines dogecoin. gimme. 00:41 hoodedice VanessaE_ was right 00:41 Jordach hoodedice, http://www.rigsofrods.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=438986&d=1383349258 00:41 hoodedice 'Murica is economically poor 00:41 hoodedice *cough* 00:42 hoodedice RoR?! oh, ok. 00:42 Jordach it's an image 00:42 Jordach goddammit 00:42 hoodedice saw it. 00:42 Jordach ^ <3 quassel 00:42 Zeno` I don't particularly like eclipse, even for C++ but maybe I'm weird 00:42 floriel let's see: - Install Eclipse + Koneki. CHECK 00:42 floriel - Create a new Lua project from existing source (specify Minetest's base directory). 00:42 hoodedice I don't like eclipse either 00:43 hoodedice Are you installing eclipse for MT modding? 00:43 floriel base directory = ~/.minetest or /usr/share/minetest ? 00:44 floriel @hoodedice yes 00:44 hoodedice I would suggect Scrite, or one of its derivative 00:44 hoodedice Eclipse is overkill 00:44 hoodedice The most you'd need is something that can count brackets 00:44 floriel cat it live-debug lua? 00:45 floriel cat = can 00:45 hoodedice I don't think you can live-debug without running the minetest executable 00:45 hoodedice I had this somewhat proprietary IDE on Windows built solely for lua 00:45 hoodedice Came with live debug too 00:46 floriel yes that's why I'm trying to get Koneki to work 00:46 hoodedice However, newer Minetest versions give verbose, or details lua error outputs, so using any form of live debugging might be obsolete now 00:46 floriel http://dev.minetest.net/Intro#IDE 00:46 * hoodedice pings VanessaE_ for citation 00:47 hoodedice Ah, the friendly dev manual. For some reason, I don't read it myself =P 00:47 floriel ;-P 00:47 hoodedice "Enter game to startup Lua" 00:47 hoodedice ^There you go 00:47 hoodedice If that line wasn't needed, I'd think twice about it 00:48 floriel it sounded so easy when i first read it three hours ago 00:48 hoodedice hehe 00:48 hoodedice 5 lines. 00:48 hoodedice Still easier than rooting an HTC. 00:48 Jordach hoodedice, i win the award for PURE EVIL 00:49 hoodedice uh huh? 00:49 Jordach there's a biome with no dirt and is PURE ICE 00:49 hoodedice ANyway, I'm waiting for the dogecoin to fall down 00:49 hoodedice What's the rate, anyway 00:49 PilzAdam floriel, I guess sapier used a RUN_IN_PLACE version 00:50 hoodedice PilzAdam: Protip: "floriel (55b44b28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.180.75.40) has quit (Quit: Page closed)" 00:51 PilzAdam hoodedice, protip: loggingbot_ 00:51 floriel narg sould start a real client 00:51 PilzAdam floriel, I guess sapier used a RUN_IN_PLACE version 00:52 hoodedice PilzAdam: You really think he would check the logs for disconnecting for 10 seconds? 00:52 hoodedice And now you just pasta'd it twice 00:52 Jordach PilzAdam, what is node_water_dust for 00:52 Jordach (node_dust_water*) 00:52 hoodedice >Efficiency just died. 00:52 PilzAdam hoodedice, no, thats why I copied my message 00:52 PilzAdam Jordach, icy 00:53 Jordach icy = ? 00:53 hoodedice Time for a rename, I say we call it node_water_ice 00:53 Jordach oh 00:53 PilzAdam ice 00:53 Jordach actual ice 00:53 Jordach that layer 00:53 Jordach right 00:53 hoodedice not the hooded one, of course 00:53 hoodedice That guy is a jerk 00:54 hoodedice Yeah! Doge has fallen, buying some now 00:55 floriel_ i'll try it with the inplace installation 00:56 Jordach if BFD is hard enough, this biome means you're fucked https://cdn.mediacru.sh/meirmNDnk_RG.png 00:56 Jordach solid ice with cracky=3 00:56 Jordach and no mobs spawn here 00:57 Jordach (they won't spawn on ice) 00:58 hoodedice =D 00:58 hoodedice THAT'S MY FE- I mean, I like it, Jordach 01:58 hoodedice !tell Jordach You better start with those custom models now! https://twitter.com/ahdinosaur/status/457336921899814914 01:58 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around 02:00 luizrpgluiz hi 02:01 hoodedice hello 02:02 luizrpgluiz how are you? 02:08 hoodedice !tell luizrpgluiz I'm very fine, thank you. What may I help you with? 02:08 MinetestBot hoodedice: yeah, yeah 02:08 hoodedice Shut up MinetestBot, do your zwizzing job. 03:09 khonkhortisan I would change that to big_freaking_dig - Repo containing the game by the same name for the Minetest Engine so as to not emphasize "the" 03:45 Zeno` are mese pickaxes or diamond better? 03:47 VanessaE_ yes :P 03:47 Zeno` lol 03:47 Zeno` ok, let me rephrase. Is mese pickaxe >= diamond pickaxes? 03:48 VanessaE_ meh 03:48 Zeno` b) Is mese pickaxe == diamond pickaxes? 03:48 Zeno` c) Is mese pickaxe <= diamond pickaxes? 03:48 VanessaE_ not since they were nerfed 03:48 VanessaE_ depends on what you use them on 03:48 Zeno` well, stone I guess 03:48 VanessaE_ dunno, try it and see 03:48 Zeno` ok, I'll set up an experiment! 03:49 Zeno` actually I may just look at the src code 03:49 Zeno` easier 05:41 arsdragonfly1 How to use a lua profiler in minetest? 06:10 Guest33834 Hello? 06:11 sfan5 hello 06:12 Guest33834 Uhh.........? 06:15 sfan5 ??? 06:17 Guest33834 What server are you on? 06:17 ShadowNinja Guest33834: If you're wondering why you were renamed it's because you haven't identified or someone else owns yournickname. 06:18 Guest33834 Im Josie, by the way. And thank you 06:40 sfan5 !tell Jordach http://i.imgur.com/RWg2svs.jpg 06:40 sfan5 MinetestBot! 06:40 MinetestBot sfan5! 06:40 sfan5 !tell Jordach http://i.imgur.com/RWg2svs.jpg 06:40 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around 06:40 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around 06:41 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 06:41 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 07:59 Krockyfant hello 08:22 CWz does dropbox work with remote_media = 08:22 Krock no 08:22 Calinou unlikely 08:23 Calinou not to mention public link abuse can disable your public links :P 08:23 Calinou remote_media needs the files to be encoded, too 08:24 CWz nevermind then 08:26 Krock better use a file hoster 08:26 Krock with direct links 08:30 sfan5 CWz: it odes 08:30 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: jthread remove locks that aren't absolutely required ea0df3e4cb 2014-04-19T10:05:23+02:00 http://git.io/EwjCDw 08:30 sfan5 does* 08:31 sfan5 Krock: a file hoster will likely not work for remote_media 08:31 Krock sfan5, ah does it need UDP too? 08:32 sfan5 no 08:32 sfan5 but you need the files to be at a specific location 08:32 sfan5 and you can rarely control the URL of files when using file hosters 08:32 Krock I talk about filehosters whih are also site hosters. ex. bplaced.com 08:33 Krock Well yes, mediafire won't work 09:08 markveidemanis Hi! 09:08 sfan5[Mac] hi! 09:08 Krock IH! 09:09 PenguinDad hI! 09:13 Krock http://pastebin.com/GYhGPdVJ 09:13 Krock @everybody --^ 09:14 Krock The script is working now 09:15 Krock ...partwise working.. 09:31 markveidemanis sfan5[Mac]/sfan5, Could you help me with a bit of SQL? 09:31 sfan5 depends 09:33 markveidemanis It's for a Web-IRC-Channel Manager I'm making 09:33 markveidemanis All I need is a username/password select/get//insert system 09:35 sfan5 help != writing code for you 09:37 markveidemanis Yes, I have a basic system 09:37 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/9092940 09:38 markveidemanis I'm stuck on parsing got data 09:39 sfan5 wat wat wat 09:39 sfan5 you are reading the whole list of users every time? 09:39 sfan5 that is not how you design a web application 09:39 sfan5 read a book on web app development first 09:41 markveidemanis I need help on the sql, I don't know any SQL functions 09:41 markveidemanis But i guess I would use "read if it exists" 09:41 Krock Inefficient like the ice bear which walks with the head on the ice 09:41 markveidemanis "if not, echo invalid login" 09:47 markveidemanis sfan5: http://www.insomnia247.nl:5004/ the frontend 09:48 sfan5 read a book on web app SQL development first 09:58 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Use narrow_to_wide in gettext instead of os dependent conversion fct a230e1e736 2014-04-19T11:33:57+02:00 http://git.io/xKBjaQ 10:04 MinetestBot BlockMen: 04-18 17:14 UTC die werte sind gut, können wir nehmen 10:04 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Bunch of small fixes (coding style, very unlikely errors, warning messages) eda9214f81 2014-04-19T11:56:19+02:00 http://git.io/3tr9HQ 11:02 CWz what is the difference between worldedit_limited and worldedit infinity? 11:04 Krock infinity for creative :D 11:04 markveidemanis The name in my opinion 11:17 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Replace deathscreen by formspec variant 0d93119040 2014-04-19T12:21:27+02:00 http://git.io/MqfDjA 11:19 PenguinDad Today seems to be a very developed day ;) 11:21 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 11:25 MinetestBot Jordach: 04-19 06:40 UTC http://i.imgur.com/RWg2svs.jpg 11:28 Calinou a very MSVC day 11:28 * Calinou upgraded to 14.04 11:28 Calinou terminal icon is prettier! 11:28 * sfan5 did not yet 11:29 Calinou OpenGL 4.4! 11:29 sfan5 I better do it now 11:29 Jordach Calinou, finally happy then 11:29 MinetestBot Jordach: 04-19 06:40 UTC http://i.imgur.com/RWg2svs.jpg 11:30 sfan5 oh MinetestBot... 11:30 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 11:30 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 11:30 Jordach sfan5, seriously 11:30 MinetestBot Jordach: 04-19 06:40 UTC http://i.imgur.com/RWg2svs.jpg 11:30 Calinou 29% GPu usage on Minetest (60 FPS limit) 11:30 sfan5 Jordach: not my fault 11:30 Calinou GPU fan RPM 1980 11:30 Calinou (doesn't seem to change much at load, but card is much noisier) 11:31 Calinou (mechanical noise probably) 11:31 sfan5 oh lol 11:31 Jordach sfan5, protip: i prefer Scout / Sniper (w/ huntsman) 11:31 sfan5 it does not allow me to upgrade to 14.04 11:31 * Jordach withdraws 10000 DOGE that hoodedice tipped me 11:31 * sfan5 meows 11:40 Jordach hey BlockMen 11:40 Calinou huntsman ftl 11:40 Calinou sfan5, why? 11:40 Calinou "sudo do-release-upgrade" will 11:40 Calinou if you're on 12.04, you would have to wait until 14.04.1... 11:40 sfan5 I'll do it later 11:40 BlockMen hi Jordach 11:41 * Jordach still waits for 64bit builds 11:46 Calinou 64 bit builds of what? 11:47 Jordach Minetest from Bl0ckMen 11:48 Calinou BIockMen :P 11:48 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/YtC-oO84o8No.png 11:48 PenguinDad Jordach: you know that 32 bit works on 64 bit machines ;P 11:48 Jordach PenguinDad, BUT SPEED PENALTIES 11:49 PenguinDad sometimes 64 bit slows down applications :/ 11:50 Calinou very rare 11:50 Calinou speed penalties of 32 bits compared to 64 bits are tiny 11:51 Calinou probably less than 2 FPS 11:51 Calinou ??? I can't close console once I open it 11:52 * Jordach hears oh shit being screamed from the south east 11:52 PenguinDad only applications that need huge amounts of RAM really benefit from 64 bit 11:55 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:56 PenguinDad hi PilzAdam 11:57 PilzAdam time to upgrade 11:57 kaeza mornings 11:57 PenguinDad good afternoon kaeza 12:13 PenguinDad !seen reactor 12:13 MinetestBot PenguinDad: reactor was last seen at 2014-04-16 11:57:03 UTC on #minetest 12:21 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix win32 build (typo in jthread lock cleanup) 8745935a06 2014-04-19T14:09:01+02:00 http://git.io/TMVSxw 12:26 markveidemanis sfan5: http://pastie.org/9093290 12:26 markveidemanis did it 12:26 markveidemanis http://insomnia247.nl:5004/ try to crash it 12:36 Krock ghaaahhhh over 200 errors in just 20 seconds 12:37 Krock "Welcome, Krocky" uh so nice, markveidemanis. 12:37 markveidemanis ... 12:37 markveidemanis Not me 12:40 markveidemanis Oh, you registered 12:40 markveidemanis Was gonna start blaming tab autocomplete 12:41 markveidemanis kaeza/asdf... 12:41 kaeza :P 12:41 markveidemanis da dum tsss 12:41 kaeza thanks for telling everyone my supah 1337 pw 12:42 kaeza :( 12:42 Krock xD 12:42 markveidemanis ZD 12:42 Krock gonna create the qwerty acc 12:42 markveidemanis Having fun trying to break my shit? 12:43 Krock no, it's not a funny site 12:43 Krock btw, do you run python as an extention on this server? 12:43 markveidemanis if username == "kaeza": 12:43 Krock cuz of *.html and it's dynamic... somehow 12:44 markveidemanis It's not dynamic :P 12:44 markveidemanis look at the address bar 12:44 Krock "Username Taken" ah I see 12:44 kaeza also... 12:44 * kaeza hugs markveidemanis for not using PHP 12:44 Krock delete the .htaccess file 12:45 markveidemanis yay 12:45 markveidemanis I hate PHP 12:45 * Krock slaps kaeza and markveidemanis 12:45 Krock PHP is nice 12:45 * markveidemanis throws PHP at Krock 12:45 * Krock catches 12:45 * PenguinDad slaps Krock for liking PHP 12:45 * markveidemanis throws bug.py.css.html.php at Krock 12:45 * kaeza slaps Krock with a thin wrapper with no error checking whatsoever 12:46 * Krock slaps PenguinDad for not liking PHP 12:46 * markveidemanis remembers the pizza 12:46 * Krock gets errors 12:47 * Krock wonders why none likes PHP 12:47 markveidemanis $$ 12:47 Krock $$?? 12:47 markveidemanis awww qwerty 12:48 PenguinDad ?? give Krock $$ 12:48 ShadowBot Krock: <$> 12:48 Krock ... 12:49 markveidemanis $php = array["php", "is", "%s"] % "python" 12:49 markveidemanis ?? give markveidemanis cows 12:49 ShadowBot markveidemanis: 12:49 Krock ? give markveidemanis help 12:49 Krock ? give markveidemanis help 12:49 Krock wtf 12:49 Krock it keeps removing 1st ? 12:49 PenguinDad ?? give PenguinDad list 12:49 ShadowBot PenguinDad: Admin, Aka, Anonymous, Brainfuck, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Conditional, Config, Ctcp, Debug, DerplangPlus, Dict, Filter, FloodProtector, Format, Games, GitHub, Google, Karma, Later, Logger, Math, MessageParser, Minetest, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Reply, Scheduler, Services, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, Unix, User, Util, (1 more message) 12:50 PenguinDad ?? give Krock Karma 12:50 ShadowBot PenguinDad: Error: I have no karma for this channel. 12:50 Krock ?? give PenguinDad Quote 12:50 ShadowBot Krock: Error: I have no quotes in my database for #minetest. 12:51 PenguinDad ?? give Krock Time 12:51 ShadowBot Krock: 07:51 AM, April 19, 2014 12:51 Krock ?? give ShadowBot Minetest 12:51 ShadowBot ShadowBot: 12:53 kaeza Krock-- 12:53 Krock spammy? 12:53 PenguinDad kaeza++ 12:54 Krock PenguinDad^3 12:58 Krock lol 13:10 markveidemanis ~seen Rhy5 13:10 ShadowBot markveidemanis: I saw Rhy5 in #minetest 5 weeks, 5 days, 0 hours, 5 minutes, and 49 seconds ago saying "is afk" 13:10 markveidemanis ~seen Rhys 13:10 ShadowBot markveidemanis: I haven't seen Rhys in #minetest. 13:13 Penguin^3 ~logger seenany PenguinDad 13:13 ShadowBot Penguin^3: I saw PenguinDad in #minetest 18 minutes and 18 seconds ago changing nick to Penguin^3 13:14 Jordach !tw https://twitter.com/ahdinosaur/status/457336921899814914 13:14 MinetestBot @tipdoge tip @jordansnelling 10000 #dogecoin for Big Freaking Dig (https://github.com/Jordach/big_freaking_dig). referred by hoodedice. (@ahdinosaur) 13:15 Jordach pay me doges and i'll work for you 13:16 Jordach wasn't even joking, lol 13:17 Jordach !tell hoodedice https://cdn.mediacru.sh/t8yoep81BvfM.png 13:17 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when hoodedice is around 13:18 Penguin^3 !c 10000 * 0.0006435 13:18 MinetestBot 6.435 13:20 Jordach suddenly, doge goes to $10 13:20 Jordach dat money though 13:26 Krock hmm, how can I convert html encoded chars into letters with lua? 13:27 Krock with minetest.formspec_escape? 13:28 * Jordach works on a modified player.lua 13:31 PilzAdam Krock, no 13:43 * Jordach converts a BFD specific feature into MTG 13:46 Jordach PilzAdam, how do i check for a file's existence with minetest.get_modpath 13:46 PilzAdam Jordach, check my skins mod 13:50 Jordach 14:48:56: ERROR[main]: ServerError: ...Copy\bin\..\games\minetest_game\mods\default/genders.lua:34: attempt to concatenate a nil value 13:50 Jordach i'm actually checking for player_pilzadam.png texture 13:50 Jordach because that's obvious if player_textures is there 13:51 Jordach if io.open(minetest.get_modpath("player_textures").."/textures/player_pilzadam.png") then in question should work 13:51 Jordach hey EvergreenTree <3 13:52 EvergreenTree :3 13:55 Jordach https://gist.github.com/Jordach/fa5766241d37976cc370 13:55 Jordach PilzAdam, ^ 13:55 Jordach can't concatenate nil value, except the identical thing is in your player_textures 14:02 PilzAdam Jordach, is the mod called player_textures? 14:03 Jordach PilzAdam, it checks if yours exists 14:03 Jordach and then applies the player_textures code 14:04 PilzAdam the code in the gist doesnt do that 14:04 Jordach line 33 14:04 Jordach is where it shits itself 14:05 PilzAdam minetest.get_modpath("player_textures") returns nil if there is no mod called player_textures 14:05 Krock ..or if it doesn't depend on it 14:06 * Krock hides 14:08 Jordach w00t 14:08 Jordach it works 14:10 Krock Jordach, it seems like it overrides the whole file when you save it, also the file isn't getting closed after the "operation" 14:13 PenguinDad How do I make the schematics for tree spawning? 14:13 Jordach boosh 14:13 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/nRtT8sro7QFl.png 14:13 Jordach got it 14:14 Jordach https://github.com/Jordach/minetest_game :D 14:15 Jordach you can actually intergrate my BFD addon into your MTG based game, eg, Minetest NeXt if you like 14:16 Jordach (might start work on MTG_V7( 14:44 sfan5 meow 14:45 Krock rawr 14:45 markveidemanis 6Meow 14:48 NekoGloop MinetestBot! 14:48 MinetestBot NekoGloop! 14:49 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot 14:49 MinetestBot <3 sfan5 14:50 Krock !g Minetest how to build nice houses 14:50 MinetestBot Krock: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8772 14:50 Krock !title 14:50 * sfan5 purrs at MinetestBot 14:50 MinetestBot Krock: [Mod] Forest (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums 14:50 Krock .... 15:29 Jordach HOLY SHIT 15:30 Jordach that didn't happen 15:30 PenguinDad D: 15:30 rdococ I have finally installed minetest for ubuntu and it works (only with smooth lighting on though)! 15:31 markveidemanis I hope you formatted your hard drive 15:31 rdococ However, the window is a little too large, how do I fix that? 15:31 markveidemanis Not you rdococ 15:31 markveidemanis !doc fullscreen 15:31 Jordach there's a fucking FOSS GAME ON STEAM 15:31 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/GMx6M0eU2i39.png 15:31 markveidemanis !wiki fullscreen 15:31 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Fullscreen 15:32 rdococ I tried f11 but it does nothing 15:32 PenguinDad you can set the window size in pixels via ScreenH and ScreenW in minetest.conf 15:32 rdococ Ok nen 15:32 rdococ Brb 15:33 PenguinDad Jordach: you mean Warsow? 15:33 Jordach PenguinDad, not warsow 15:33 Jordach it's an RTS using the spring engine 15:34 rdococ what version of minetest do I have? I can't tell 15:34 Hirato_ Jordach: inb4 ToME 15:35 Jordach Hirato_, http://www.evolutionrts.info/ 15:35 PenguinDad wow evolution rts is on steam O_O 15:35 Hirato_ http://store.steampowered.com/app/259680 I meant this Jordach 15:41 rdococ Oh it's 0.3.1 15:41 rdococ And here's 15:42 rdococ If I install from the software centre where does the application go 15:43 Krock version 0.3.1 is just a ..little outdated bt 15:43 Krock w 15:43 rdococ Ik 15:43 rdococ I have 0.4.9 on windows but the messed icons are not worth it 15:44 Krock then get a 0.4.9-dev version from the forums, they're better 15:44 rdococ Wait a minute, I recognise you 15:45 rdococ OMG KROCK! 15:45 rdococ Do I need to uninstall 0.3.1 to get the 0.4.9-dev? 15:46 Krock just put i intoa new folder 15:47 PenguinDad Krock: FYI he's talking about linux at the moment 15:47 rdococ How do I download packages from launch pad? 15:47 rdococ Yeah I'm in ubuntu at the moment. 15:47 * Krock redirects to PenguinDad, the one who knows everything 15:48 rdococ He isn't responding though! 15:49 rdococ Removing 0.3.1... 15:55 rdococ Recovering from a crash while removing 0.3.1 potentially causing system corruption... 15:55 rdococ Ubuntu looks like it can't be used ever again... 15:57 rdococ Ok I've recovered, minetest seems to be gone 15:57 PenguinDad rdococ: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install minetest" type this in your terminal without the quotes 15:57 PenguinDad then you have the latest daily build installed 15:59 PenguinDad if you want the normal stable releases replace the "daily-builds" with "stable" 15:59 rdococ Something happened and I've had to run something else 15:59 rdococ To set up dpkg properly 16:00 rdococ Retrying... 16:02 rdococ It's installing but it's taking forever 16:02 rdococ oh finally it's beginning to unpack minetest instead of lib office stuff 16:02 rdococ And crash. 16:03 sfan5 rdococ: paste the error 16:03 rdococ Nvm there is no crash 16:03 rdococ But it's lagging badly, still installing 16:05 PenguinDad rdococ: you seem to have a internet connection like me ;) 16:05 rdococ Bad or good? I've recently got a super hub 16:05 rdococ It's finished now 16:05 rdococ Btw the lag was computer lag not network lag 16:06 PenguinDad oh I thought you were talking about real lag 16:07 rdococ Computer lag is common 16:07 rdococ My computer JUST CRASHED AGAIN. 16:07 rdococ Wait I'm so confused 16:07 rdococ It's ok 16:08 rdococ Or not 16:08 Jordach 1) wait for the machine 16:08 Jordach 2) make a coffee or a tea 16:08 Jordach 3) sit back 16:08 rdococ 4) be a jerk and turn the computer off with the force 16:08 rdococ I choose 4 16:08 rdococ Wait! 16:09 rdococ The game is up 16:10 rdococ KROCK, are you playing right now? 16:10 BlockMen "everything minetest_next related is now discussed on ##minetest-next" 16:11 rdococ I have no idea what your talking about 16:11 * PenguinDad adds ##minetest-next to his autojoin list 16:27 EvergreenTree Is there any way of removing a given privilege with the modding api? 16:28 Krock try minetest.registered_privileges[priv] = nil 16:28 EvergreenTree I'll test it 16:29 PenguinDad EvergreenTree: do you mean revoking a priv from a player or deleting the priv at all 16:29 EvergreenTree no, I mean removing the revoking 16:29 EvergreenTree *revoking 16:29 EvergreenTree can't type 16:30 EvergreenTree revoking, not removing 16:30 EvergreenTree :P] 16:30 Krock oh 16:30 Krock just comment out the revoke command then? 16:30 rdococ Bug: minetest 0.4.9-dev is barely playable 16:31 Krock rdococ, system info? graphic card? opengl version? 16:31 rdococ Ubuntu 12.10, minetest 0.4.9dev, no OpenGL version known to have been installed 16:32 EvergreenTree Let me try again, is there any way of revoking a privilege of a given player via the modding api 16:32 Krock start MT, ojin a world and you'll see the OpenGL version 16:32 EvergreenTree what do you mean by "barely playable"? 16:32 EvergreenTree bad framerate? 16:32 PenguinDad EvergreenTree: look at the /freeze here https://bitbucket.org/PenguinDad/freeze/src/ff8674d5ca269ea515b89ac5404b911073683b81/init.lua?at=default 16:32 PenguinDad +command 16:32 rdococ 2 seconds per frame, approx 16:33 PenguinDad wut 0.5 FPS 16:33 EvergreenTree are shaders inabled! 16:33 rdococ More accurately 1 second per frame but they're horrible none-the-less 16:33 EvergreenTree *? 16:33 rdococ Shaders are disabled as far as i know but I'll check 16:33 EvergreenTree hm 16:33 EvergreenTree what are your computer specs? 16:34 rdococ Oh shaders are enabled but no specific shaders are ticked 16:34 EvergreenTree no, disable it 16:34 EvergreenTree shaders on slows it down 16:34 EvergreenTree even if no shaders are ticked 16:34 PenguinDad rdococ: try disabling all settings except mip mapping 16:34 rdococ Ok 16:34 EvergreenTree no, just try disabling shaders first 16:34 rdococ Even opaque water? 16:35 rdococ Because wouldn't that decrease lag by decreasing the operations involving translucency! 16:35 rdococ ?* 16:35 Krock PenguinDad, as far I know from my settings, mip mapping doesn't increase the FPS 16:35 rdococ Well it has been a huge improvement doing that penguin dad, thanks for the advice. 16:35 EvergreenTree mip mapping just blurs farteher off textures 16:35 EvergreenTree *farther 16:36 rdococ I've got fog on though so I won't see 16:36 EvergreenTree press f4 (I think 16:36 rdococ It's somewhat playable with full render distance. 16:36 EvergreenTree no, f3 16:36 EvergreenTree that turns off fog 16:36 rdococ No, r 16:36 EvergreenTree you have to be ingame though 16:36 EvergreenTree rdococ: that's full view 16:37 rdococ Ok your right 16:37 EvergreenTree if you want a shorter view distance without fog, press f3 16:37 Krock (F4 is camera update btw) 16:37 rdococ I would prefer a view distance in between far and close. 16:38 EvergreenTree press shift and + to extend viewing range 16:38 Krock viewing_range_nodes_max = 16 16:38 EvergreenTree and - to reduce it 16:38 Krock put that into minetest.conf to test 16:38 rdococ I can't decrease it 16:39 rdococ How do I force chunks to load properly? 16:39 EvergreenTree I don't think you can force load chunks 16:39 EvergreenTree you just have to wait for them to load 16:40 EvergreenTree or can you? I'm not sure 16:40 rdococ And very occasionally I suddenly get a flash of random color 16:40 EvergreenTree I used to have that problem 16:40 rdococ Yeah but it won't annoy me much 16:40 EvergreenTree just video card/built in graphics problems 16:40 EvergreenTree can't really be fixed 16:40 Krock minetest.forceload_block(pos) 16:40 rdococ Woohoo! Perfect icons p 16:40 EvergreenTree Krock: that's in the modding api 16:40 EvergreenTree he means in game 16:41 EvergreenTree :P 16:41 Krock ah 16:41 rdococ It was probably just shaders that really lagged me out 16:41 EvergreenTree yes, it is 16:42 EvergreenTree you have to have a somewhat decent graphics card to use them 16:42 EvergreenTree I have a pretty good system 16:42 EvergreenTree 4 core cpu at 3.8ghz, 4gb of ram, and an AMD Radeon 7750 graphics card 16:42 rdococ Oh wow, mines probably a single core 16:43 rdococ Ok I'm going to do some settings 16:43 rdococ Enabled 3d clouds and particles 16:43 rdococ Still no lag. 16:44 * Krock has a 512MB graphic card but it's still shittyplayable 16:44 rdococ What does that mean?! 16:45 rdococ I probably don't even have a graphics card on mine 16:45 Krock range view of 16 nodes,does that mean. 16:45 rdococ but that's just a hypothesis 16:45 PenguinDad I'm quite satisfied with my AMD Phenom II X6 1100T and my GeForce GTX 650 :P 16:46 EvergreenTree That's a good combo 16:46 EvergreenTree I would have gotten a 650 ti, but the Radeon was cheaper 16:46 EvergreenTree rdococ: you probably don't have a graphics cards 16:46 rdococ I'm sure Packard bell will go bankrupt soon so don't worry guys 16:46 EvergreenTree it's probably builtin 16:47 rdococ I do use a laptop so perhaps that's true 16:47 rdococ I have a question about the height of the map 16:47 sfan5 30000 blocks 16:47 sfan5 up and down 16:47 rdococ Does minetest use cubic chunks then? 16:47 sfan5 yes 16:48 rdococ I was wondering why I could just keep going down and down and feel like I should be in the void 16:48 Krock haha would be funny to have globe-like chunks 16:48 rdococ Spherical chunks? 16:49 Krock yup. 16:49 rdococ That's not exactly possible 16:50 rdococ If we have different shapes of chunks then they'd be much harder to pinpoint and determine which chunks are near the player 16:50 PenguinDad Krock: interesting idea because our world is build out of many irregular spheres 16:51 rdococ If you mean atoms then I suppose your right 16:51 Krock PenguinDad, yup and itself is a sphere too.. 16:51 Krock Maths: cubic, Nature: spherical 16:52 rdococ Nature is spherical in many ways, your right 16:52 PenguinDad and nature is irregular 16:52 rdococ Nature is twisted. nature is cracked 16:53 rdococ Nature is all things that obey the rule that the speed of light must be kept the same at all times 16:53 crazyR Krock. just been looking at your player notes mod, how easy would it be to display the notes in a formspec 16:54 rdococ OMG I have an epic idea 16:54 Krock crazyR, hmm would be easy I think. I already had the same idea but was too lazy to re-program it 16:54 rdococ Command block mod! 16:54 Krock messecons:command_block 16:54 PenguinDad TIL macros should be avoided in C and C++ 16:54 EvergreenTree rdococ: exists 16:54 rdococ Oh, 16:55 rdococ Err I can't give it myself 16:55 rdococ Unless I need the mese cons mod 16:56 PenguinDad you need to install mesecons for that node 16:56 rdococ Brb toilet 16:57 rdococ Back 17:02 rdococ Again, the inventory hotbar is partially invisible 17:06 rdococ Where on earth is the Minetest.conf file 17:07 PenguinDad same folder where you added the games folder 17:08 PenguinDad *in the same 17:08 rdococ I really want to try out shaders, are there any stuff to Di 17:08 rdococ remove the lag caused by them 17:09 rdococ Ooh joining a server now 17:12 EvergreenTree rdococ: there is no way of removing lag by shaders except getting better processing power 17:12 EvergreenTree :P 17:13 EvergreenTree Let me try again, is there any way of revoking a privilege of a given player via the modding api? 17:13 rdococ If there was it'd be obvious 17:14 PenguinDad EvergreenTree: look at the freeze command definition here https://bitbucket.org/PenguinDad/freeze/src/ff8674d5ca269ea515b89ac5404b911073683b81/init.lua?at=default 17:14 PenguinDad ^ EvergreenTree 17:14 EvergreenTree rdococ: not really 17:15 EvergreenTree I tried set_player_privs 17:16 EvergreenTree Would I just have to get_player_privs and the change one of them to false? 17:16 Krock how about looking into builtin codes? 17:17 EvergreenTree oh yeah 17:18 EvergreenTree there are chat commands in that 17:19 Krock exactly. 17:20 EvergreenTree sometimes default code is the best source 17:21 rdococ I'm playing at the moment so I'm not listening 17:25 EvergreenTree o/ e1z0 17:25 EvergreenTree *Enke 17:25 EvergreenTree sorry e1z0 17:25 EvergreenTree :P 17:25 Jordach lol 17:30 rdococ KROCK you left the game, come back 17:31 Krock Am I a dog? 17:32 EvergreenTree no, but Penguin is a Doge 17:32 rdococ Well I need to know where there are trees I can get wood from without being jailed for griefing on your server p 17:32 GhostDoge woof 17:33 Krock lol 17:33 rdococ I don't want to be horrible to nature but I do want some wood 17:35 Jordach who just sent me 100 doge 17:36 GhostDoge Jordach: http://dogechain.info/tx/b47a2547893130ed5383476087e570a2a12711281126420a38a7f9e92612c013 17:36 * sfan5 curls up to Jordach's lap 17:36 Jordach sfan5? 17:36 sfan5 no 17:36 Jordach cmon own up 17:36 Jordach don't make me have to 17:36 GhostDoge Jordach: I gave them to you 17:37 Jordach :O 17:37 * Jordach purrs 17:39 GhostDoge that's less the amount I mined in 2 days 17:42 rdococ Btw I have OpenGL 1.4 17:43 GhostDoge rdococ: that version is quite old 17:44 rdococ Well apparently it works so I'm not upgrading any time soon 17:45 Krock Yay, another guy with the same OpenGL version 17:45 Krock parteyy! 17:47 sfan5 Jordach: which opengl do you have? 17:47 sfan5 I haz 4.4.0 17:47 Jordach some bullshit 4.2 17:47 rdococ wait, is it possible to take damage in creative mode? 17:47 GhostDoge yes 17:48 rdococ That's if you enable it . 17:48 rdococ At the moment I'm in survival mode in my world and I've got damage disabled 17:49 rdococ That was one of my dreams - a survival invincibility gamemode 17:52 rdococ I'd like to try to program a hunger mod into minetest 17:55 crazyR sorry krock only just got your message lol 17:56 Krock why sorry? it has time 17:56 MinetestBot luizrpgluiz: 04-19 02:08 UTC I'm very fine, thank you. What may I help you with? 17:57 luizrpgluiz when going out version 1.0 of minetest? 17:58 Krock long time, luizrpgluiz, maybe never 17:59 luizrpgluiz anyone here does mods for the game and have some video teaching to do mods? 18:00 Krock lua_api.txt is your friend, just go through some wtfpl-licensed projects and copy what you need 18:01 khonkhortisan I was modding, when I ran into a math problem. I have one or two rectangular prisms (given by two or four points) which may or may not overlap. I wish to iterate through every inside point, without going through the same point twice. 18:04 luizrpgluiz is that I learn best by seeing someone do mod 18:05 EvergreenTree There is no such video afaik 18:05 EvergreenTree luizrpgluiz: here, you pretty much have to learn by looking at other people's code and sturggling through figuring out waht it does 18:05 EvergreenTree That's what I have done 18:06 EvergreenTree knowing lua helps too 18:06 EvergreenTree My OpenGl version is 2.1 or something 18:07 GhostDoge My OpenGL is version 4.4.0 18:07 Krock My OpenGl version is 1.4.0 18:07 Krock beat em all 18:08 Halite my ipad ran out of power 18:08 Halite so im using my ubuntu to access irc 18:08 Krock Happens. 18:08 Halite i do not know for the life of me which directory i can put minetest mods in 18:10 GhostDoge you have put them in ~/.minetest/mods/ 18:10 Halite and wheres that 18:10 Halite im using ubuntu btw 18:10 Krock HDD0 18:10 Halite ? 18:11 markveidemanis in the mods folder 18:11 GhostDoge ~ is your home folder 18:11 ShadowBot GhostDoge: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 18:11 Krock spammer 18:11 GhostDoge shut up ShadowBot 18:12 JackGruff ~ 18:13 JackGruff hmm 18:13 Krock ~ try is this way 18:13 ShadowBot Krock: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 18:13 JackGruff ~ test 18:14 Krock you're ignored :P 18:14 GhostDoge ~ testing is nice 18:14 ShadowBot GhostDoge: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 18:14 JackGruff ~ a b c 18:14 JackGruff :[ 18:14 Krock ><((((*> 18:14 GhostDoge JackGruff: it must contain is to get that error 18:14 JackGruff ~ is 18:14 ShadowBot JackGruff: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 18:14 JackGruff yay 18:15 JackGruff what does it do? 18:15 Krock ...you don't see? it's throwing errors 18:15 GhostDoge ask ShadowNinja 18:15 ShadowNinja Hmmm? 18:16 ShadowNinja ~test123 is Testing 123 testing... 18:16 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: O.K. 18:16 ShadowNinja ~test123 18:16 ShadowBot test123 is Testing 123 testing... 18:17 JackGruff yes, but what does the command do? 18:17 Krock now I get it :D 18:17 Krock it sets a variable 18:17 JackGruff oh 18:17 Krock ~troll is amazing 18:17 ShadowBot Krock: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 18:17 Krock oh.. 18:17 Krock but..I'm registred 18:18 Krock brb 18:18 GhostDoge Krock: read the end of the message 18:18 Krock can't anymore 18:18 Krock lol 18:19 Krock ~give Krock error 18:19 ShadowBot Krock: 18:21 ShadowNinja Krock: /msg ShadowBot help register 18:21 Krock ah thx ShadowNinja 18:23 Krock Gets the data sent to google when I register? 18:23 JackGruff when are we going to get better entities so that we can send armies of mobs at each other in multiplayer :( 18:24 EvergreenTree JackGruff: "when" is nearly impossible to answer 18:24 ShadowNinja Krock: No, of course not. It's stored in an INI-style file with hashed passwords. 18:24 JackGruff i know, im just whining 18:25 Krock ShadowNinja, oks :) 18:25 ShadowNinja JackGruff: When someone codes it. ;-) 18:25 JackGruff it's why i still play minecraft. both games have different strengths 18:25 Krock ~path is %programfiles% 18:25 ShadowBot Krock: O.K. 18:25 Krock wow. 18:25 ShadowNinja And I know only slightly more than NULL about Minetest's entity management, so I can't do it. 18:26 * Krock never playd MC...maybe cuz he an't even play MT smoothly 18:26 JackGruff you can actually play MC on the same hardware MT would run, with optifine it's a bit easier ofcourse 18:26 * ShadowNinja can get 300+ FPS with recent MT versions, in Debug mode! 18:27 Jordach HORSE SHIT 18:27 Jordach ~120fps within MC, ~60 within MT 18:27 Krock And debug is mre G-/CPU intensive than normal, ShadowNinja? 18:27 Krock *more 18:27 GhostDoge ShadowNinja: that's easy with singlenode :P 18:27 ShadowNinja With a .drirc that disables vsync, and Minetest's limit set high. 18:28 EvergreenTree ShadowNinja: Computer specs? 18:28 ShadowNinja Krock: Yes. 18:28 Krock ok 18:28 ShadowNinja Jordach: Have you disabled your video driver's VSync? 18:28 Krock How to enable videodriver's vsync? 18:29 EvergreenTree I get ~40-60fps in minetest 18:29 EvergreenTree and I have sub par hardware for gaming 18:29 ShadowNinja Hmmm, only getting ~150 now. 18:29 EvergreenTree but above par for regular use 18:30 Krock I can beat everypony -- 20 FPS on singlenode 18:30 Krock No upper limit set 18:30 Krock wait..that's not true 18:30 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/ReQshnUO3hUB.png 18:30 EvergreenTree I think my limit is 60fps 18:30 EvergreenTree no need to go beyond that 18:31 Krock I tried this: "wanted_fps = 200" but it didn't work :( 18:32 MinetestBot meldrian: 04-17 19:58 UTC hi, sehr schöne modvorstellung (creatures) ;) hättest du mal lust better hud vorzustellen (oder meinst du das lohnt sich nicht)? 18:33 meldrian BlockMen, i'll put it on my list, expect it in the near future 18:33 meldrian hello everyone around 18:33 Krock hai 18:33 Jordach system tops out at 61fps within MT 18:33 BlockMen hi meldrian, cool :) 18:34 sfan5 Jordach: minetest is limited to 60 fps by default 18:35 Jordach i can hit 350fps 18:35 SegFault22 Ugh, registering tools using ipairs isn't working... what gives? 18:35 Krock try functions 18:35 SegFault22 functions 18:35 sfan5 SegFault22: paste your code 18:35 SegFault22 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9118 18:36 sfan5 there is not reason why this would not work 18:36 Krock lol 18:36 Krock fail 18:36 * Jordach has heard rumours of someone getting 5000fps in MC 18:36 Krock "1.0", "cracky = {times={[1]=2.40, [2]=2.00, [3]=1.60}, uses=32, maxlevel=3}", "fleshy=5" }, 18:36 ShadowNinja SegFault22: Um, because it's quoted? 18:36 Krock that's not valid 18:37 SegFault22 It's wuoted because that's how ipairs works 18:37 SegFault22 quoted 18:37 ShadowNinja SegFault22: No it doesn't. 18:37 Jordach SegFault22, minetest registrations require tables, not strings 18:37 Krock SegFault22, try whole tablestoo 18:37 SegFault22 Okay, i'l ltest that theory 18:37 ShadowNinja SegFault22: Remove quotes around everything that isn't a string. 18:37 Krock String != code 18:37 ShadowNinja ipairs does not parse strings as Lua code. 18:37 Krock btw, beat me: http://i.imgur.com/CAb7bef.png ##fps_max 18:38 ShadowNinja And neither does pairs. 18:38 Jordach ShadowNinja, i can top out at 120fps on MC 18:38 Jordach but Minetest's view isn't locked to bare minium 18:38 Jordach -to bar minium 18:39 SegFault22 Nope, you're wrong. Although it does not crash, it still does not work, same as before. 18:39 SegFault22 :P 18:39 ShadowNinja At a view range of 0 I get ~380 FPS. With a view range of 100-200 I get about 150 FPS. 18:39 ShadowNinja 700 even. 18:39 Krock 0 should be inf. 18:40 Krock SegFault22, codes? error? problem? 18:40 SegFault22 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9118 18:40 Krock already seen this 18:40 Krock update the codes there to actual please 18:41 SegFault22 No error codes or anything. It acts as if it's working fine, but won't break stone, just like if you were to try breaking stone with your bare hands. 18:41 ShadowNinja SegFault22: There are still quotes. 18:41 SegFault22 Yeah, because that's a forum post 18:41 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=138513#p138513 18:41 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/GMGg5Hm.png 18:41 Jordach bare minium distance to render 18:42 Krock don't believe it uses 11% of memory.. 18:42 SegFault22 It works! thank you :D 18:43 Krock String != code 18:43 SegFault22 "String != code" ? 18:43 Krock try to run codes out of a string. 18:43 SegFault22 Sorry, I don't speak C++ 18:44 Krock "print(\"hello world\")" impossible. 18:44 SegFault22 Ah 18:44 SegFault22 Okay 18:44 SegFault22 thank you 18:44 SegFault22 you've been helpful 18:44 Krock uhm..yay? 18:44 GhostDoge Krock: with loadstring it's possible 18:45 ShadowNinja GhostDoge: Of course, but he isn't using loadstring, and using it would be dumb. 18:45 Krock GhostDoge, maybe it just writes codes to a temponary files and tells the code-parser: "take this too" 18:47 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/DONWUgK.png 18:47 Jordach clear fucking winner 18:48 Krock I see no winner there. 18:48 Krock but the landscape looks very good 18:49 Jordach 240fps in MC, 140fps in MT (even before it tries to increase my vision) 18:49 Jordach reminder: all my settings are full 18:49 Jordach and both are 64bit enabled 18:49 Krock set max_block_send_distance to 100 :P 18:49 Krock then full view range 18:49 Krock have fun. 18:55 * EvergreenTree gives NekoGloopMkII a FishMkII 18:58 * GhostDoge barks at NekoGloopMkII in MkII style 18:58 PilzAdam yay! upgrade failed! 18:59 Krock linux? 18:59 kaeza PilzAdam, upgrading buntu? 18:59 PilzAdam tried to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 19:00 ShadowNinja alias updrade='pacman -Syu' :-) 19:00 ShadowNinja s/d/g/ 19:01 PilzAdam the upgrade to 13.10 only broke a bit; now this one totally messed it up 19:02 Jordach Ubuntu problems 19:02 * Jordach sits there with a perfect copy of a working operating system known as Windows 19:03 * PilzAdam too 19:03 Jordach (for once i haven't broke it by tweaking it; it's a first) 19:03 Jordach Linux will probably get ultimately adopted if they fix the broken method of installing updates 19:04 * EvergreenTree doesn't want to upgrade to 14.04 19:04 * EvergreenTree sticks with 13.10 19:04 PilzAdam EvergreenTree: why not? init failing to remount root into rw is totally fun! 19:05 GhostDoge If Fedora 21 is finished I'll see how upgrading is :/ 19:05 EvergreenTree I'm only upgrading when it's necessary 19:05 Jordach i've got support for the next 10 years 19:06 PilzAdam best way to upgrade seems to be to backup /home, get a list of installed packages and then simply reinstall 19:06 PilzAdam EvergreenTree: that would be in 6 months IIRC 19:06 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: And THAT is why I switched to Arch Linux. 19:07 PilzAdam ShadowNinja: does Arch have something wubi like? 19:07 EvergreenTree PilzAdam: that really does seem like the best option 19:07 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Nope, at least not that I know of. 19:07 EvergreenTree That way I don't have to reconfigure all my programs 19:10 * kaeza kills windows console and installs rxvt 19:10 ShadowNinja https://startpage.com/do/search?query=arch+linux+loop+mount 19:11 kaeza PilzAdam, for me the upgrade went flawlessly, but now the new kernel and/or usb_modeswitch does not recognize the wireless modem :( 19:12 PilzAdam kaeza: thats not how I would define "flawlessly" 19:12 SegFault22 Umm, why are the forums in maintenance mode now? 19:13 PilzAdam canonical actually dropped wubi now, but there appeared one in the live usb stick I created 19:13 kaeza1 hurr durr 19:13 ShadowNinja SegFault22: Switching to phpBB. 19:14 Krock Oh noez! Can't post mah ketteh picturez nao 19:15 PilzAdam I have to admit that webchat is actually pretty bad 19:16 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: QWebIRC is. KiwiIRC is pretty good. 19:16 PilzAdam ShadowNinja: dont CTCP me! It might crash! 19:16 kaeza lol 19:17 PilzAdam Im in constant fear of BSOD currently 19:17 ShadowNinja New longest CTCP VERSION winner: Received CTCP-VERSION answer from PilzAdam: qwebirc v0.91, copyright (C) 2008-2011 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project -- Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 10.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/6.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; .NET4.0C) 19:18 Krock wow. 19:18 PilzAdam "Mozilla/5.0"? Im on IE 19:18 Krock a windows 7 user 19:19 kaeza IE? :| 19:19 Krock kaeza, follow IE on twitler! 19:19 PilzAdam its the only browser installed on win; and I cant download FF now since that would only take longer for the kubuntu iso to download 19:21 Jordach PilzAdam, BLUESCREEN 19:21 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Brewsers like to pretend to be each other. Almost all of them do it. 19:21 Krock BSoD ftw 19:23 JackGruff i just rsync my drive to backup 19:23 JackGruff much simplier 19:23 EvergreenTree To get a list of installed packages and put in in a text file, do "sudo dpkg --get-selections >> file.txt 19:23 EvergreenTree JackGruff: me too 19:23 JackGruff EvergreenTree, yeah. and of course, the arch wiki has a nice article on rsync for system backups 19:24 JackGruff (I wish Debian's wiki was as nice) 19:32 SegFault22 WTF is going on with the forums? 19:32 PenguinDad SegFault22: Switching to phpBB. 19:33 SegFault22 Why were the users not informed? 19:33 CraigyDavi There was a thread in the news forum about it 19:34 SegFault22 Some thread at the bottom of a neglected forum with a sentence or two isn't information. A small notification-box above the forums, with red text, is. 19:35 SegFault22 And even in the thread in the news section, nothing was said about downtime. 19:35 kaeza1 I don't see the big deal about waiting at most a couple hours 19:36 Krock BUG! minetest.show_formspec(string, string, string) -> if a function is used for one of those strings and returns nothing, minetest crashes 19:37 SegFault22 When you consider that most of us don't lead a cool life, in which we have to deny invitations to parties because there are so many, it IS a big deal. 19:38 SegFault22 er, in which we would have to do such. We don't because most of us aren't socially blessed. 19:38 khonkhortisan BUG! pressing up in the chat box gives a gotText unhandled ERROR. 19:38 * Jordach just had an insane idea 19:38 Krock BUG! pressing down in a chat bo...... 19:39 kaeza BUG! there are bees on the server 19:39 khonkhortisan BUG! pressing numpad up or numpad down without numpad on... 19:39 kaeza lots of bugs actually 19:39 ShadowNinja What is it with SegFault quiting after every paragraph 19:39 ShadowNinja ? 19:40 Krock Message flood deteted by client - amazing feature 19:40 Krock *detected 19:41 * khonkhortisan holds the up button in the chat box waiting for minetest to say something about chat flood 19:41 Krock haha 19:41 khonkhortisan bug: minetest is not normally an irc client 19:43 khonkhortisan worldedit's //move currently only moves along a single axis, so for now I'm safe with a single-axis same-size rectangular prism merge for the purpose of a node area ownership checking loop. 19:44 JackGruff bug: I can't email from inside minetest 19:48 EvergreenTree Hi wuz 19:49 * EvergreenTree is thinking about adding some examples to the dev wiki 19:49 EvergreenTree I already added one for minetest.rotate_node 19:50 CraigyDavi That would be very helpfull, adding examples. 19:53 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/BbJWY1QCiVDK.png :D 20:03 kaeza nice commit message https://github.com/PilzAdam/player_textures/commit/8d25fece8ca044ff1a8a673e3d2d03bdea14f2d5 20:05 Krock ^^ 20:07 Megaf Krock: please join #Minetest-Deb 20:07 Megaf #Minetest-Dev 20:07 Megaf we are talking about that issue, peer not found 20:08 playzooki hi guys 20:08 CraigyDavi hello 20:08 EvergreenTree ello 20:09 kaeza llo 20:09 Krock hai 20:09 Megaf Krock: stay on #Minetest-Dev please, we are trying to fix "ERROR[ServerThread]: Server::ProcessData(): Cancelling: peer ## not found" 20:09 Krock ah 20:10 Krock I can't provide more than I already did 20:12 CraigyDavi That would be great to fix. 20:14 JackGruff is indev superior to v6? 20:14 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Reduce log level for incoming crap packets a0dd2d89f3 2014-04-19T22:12:01+02:00 http://git.io/tn9c4g 20:14 Krock JackGruff, indev is as old as v6 20:15 CraigyDavi Eeek. Forums have ben updated. I notice a few problems... 20:15 Krock <.< 20:15 Krock not optimal bugfixing...well at least that 20:16 * Krock couldn't do it better 20:16 CraigyDavi Lol, here's my forum thread at the moment: http://i.imgur.com/qcFRY9k.png 20:17 JackGruff Krock, it has a misleading name then 20:17 JackGruff to me, at least 20:17 JackGruff indev = in development ? 20:17 Krock ..mode 20:18 Krock :( too less contrast on the new forum 20:18 CraigyDavi I know. The grey text is almost invisible at the footer 20:19 Krock "Registered users: Bing [Bot], BlockMen, CraigyDavi, Evergreen, Google [Bot]," 20:19 Krock lol 20:19 EvergreenTree The theme doesn't work very well 20:19 Krock I want to be a bot too 20:19 EvergreenTree I assume it is being worked on 20:19 * Krock starts useragent changer 20:19 BlockMen the layout is currently broken... 20:19 JackGruff why it is broken is worrying 20:19 JackGruff oh well 20:20 CraigyDavi I thought the new forum was meant to bring "new features" not create more problems. 20:20 Krock it created more features 20:20 Jordach [21:15:42] ShadowNinja: what do I have to do? 20:20 Jordach [21:17:10] i'd roughly guess not fuck up? 20:20 Krock lol 20:20 CraigyDavi haha 20:21 EvergreenTree This is going to take quite a bit of getting used to 20:21 EvergreenTree I liked the old interface better 20:21 Krock +1 20:21 CraigyDavi ...anyway apparently punbb was "lacking in some needed features".... 20:22 CraigyDavi We did not need any more features in my opinon 20:22 Krock even moderators need a fluffy sofa 20:22 PenguinDad My eyes are hurting because of that bright background 20:22 Jordach apparently post revision is more needed then anything else 20:22 Jordach even beating the need of a forum 20:23 CraigyDavi Hmm 20:23 kaeza1 to hell with this modem 20:23 * Krock calls 666 20:23 kaeza1 http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyChangedItNowItSucks 20:24 kaeza1 see also http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItsTheSameNowItSucks 20:24 Krock wow I'mon the site right now you showed s 2nd :3 20:25 Krock http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyCopiedItSoItSucks 20:26 Jordach still living in the past are we 20:26 Jordach Maximum dimensions; width: 60 pixels, height: 60 pixels, file size: 10.00 KiB. 20:26 Jordach User avatar 20:26 Jordach ShadowNinja, ^ 20:27 Krock But I feel like the last poop of the anarchy list.. all other usernames are yellow or green 20:27 Krock *red or green 20:27 ShadowNinja Jordach: Later. 20:31 EvergreenTree Yeah, the new forums need work 20:32 CraigyDavi All the bbcode does not seem to be working 20:34 Krock CraigyDavi, now wonder... your sign: [colour=black] 20:34 Krock colOUr 20:35 CraigyDavi Where's that? 20:35 Krock sign-ature 20:35 Esteban_ Im here Craig! 20:35 CraigyDavi Ah I see 20:35 CraigyDavi Hi Esteban 20:36 playzooki hi 20:36 Esteban_ With the new forum style, it means pictures wont be visible? 20:36 Esteban_ brb in a min 20:36 PenguinDad Esteban_: I can see pictures 20:39 Krock all topic links broken 20:39 Krock aah 20:39 PenguinDad poor topic links :'( 20:39 CraigyDavi Vote!: http://strawpoll.me/1536753 20:40 Esteban_ back, @PeguinDad I meant that if some links to pictures will be broken 20:40 Esteban_ voted! 20:40 Krock already 4 votes 20:40 Krock wooo 20:40 Krock 5 20:42 JackGruff http://strawpoll.me/1536819 20:42 JackGruff this channel needs a bot to link check, btw 20:43 PenguinDad !title 20:43 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Straw Poll 20:43 PenguinDad ^ JackGruff you mean this? 20:43 JackGruff yeah. but automatic 20:43 khonkhortisan that's a silly poll 20:43 JackGruff you're a silly poll 20:43 khonkhortisan A wiki I use has rolling image outages. 20:44 khonkhortisan it used to just work but now it doesn't 20:45 CraigyDavi I think we should have had a vote before there were any thoughts into changing the forum software. It's for the whole commnity... 20:45 Issa2013 hello 20:45 khonkhortisan If I was one of the people that had access to the other side of the forum I might've taken part in an informal vote 20:45 Issa2013 i have just installed ubuntu14.04 20:46 khonkhortisan good for you :P 20:46 JackGruff CraigyDavi, i don't think we would be complaining if the new system just working and looked like the old one 20:46 JackGruff just worked* 20:46 Issa2013 and of course the m intest dev using ppa sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds 20:46 Issa2013 and now i m on minetest 0.4.7 20:46 Issa2013 what' is wrong please ? 20:47 JackGruff Issa2013, did you apt update? did you install the correct package? 20:47 khonkhortisan I'm on Minetest 0.4.9-173-g674be38 20:47 Issa2013 yes i m sure about this 20:47 khonkhortisan through git 20:47 Issa2013 sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install minetestc55 20:47 * khonkhortisan wonders if it's called minetest now 20:48 PenguinDad Issa2013: it's minetest not minetestc55 20:48 sfan5 there is a minetestc55 pkg too 20:48 sfan5 but the 'minetest' packages supports more things 20:48 PenguinDad sfan5: but it's outdated 20:48 Issa2013 ok we need to update the ubuntu wiki 20:48 Krock before: http://www.20min.ch/diashow/96256/96256-8V_SLeMFtK4qi4mUc_2nMg.jpg 20:49 Krock after 18 years: http://www.20min.ch/diashow/96256/96256-GUvUDLFLvbisDdGZh501rQ.jpg 20:49 Esteban_ woa ^ 20:50 CraigyDavi Well the first one is probably photoshoped 20:50 Krock wrong. 20:50 rdococ rdococ: 20:50 Issa2013 thanks is beetter 20:50 * Jordach mastered lighting 20:50 rdococ rdococ: hi 20:50 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/dONgXPmAL9Nw.png 20:50 Issa2013 now i have Minetest 0/4/9-dev 20:50 Krock http://www.20min.ch/diashow/96256/96256-egFdgdGhat3VG7CWIDK6vw.jpg National-Geographic-Fotograf Charles O'Rear made this photo 1996 20:50 CraigyDavi Well the first one is apparently the most viewed image in the world 20:51 Issa2013 ok now i see the fps and i have 15 fps :'( 20:51 khonkhortisan I have 19 woohoo! 20:52 CraigyDavi I have 80 :D 20:52 Krock ugh you beat me with my max. of 42 at singlenode >.< 20:52 khonkhortisan singlenode never seems to actually give me a node 20:53 CraigyDavi Only nyancats I believe 20:53 Krock the node is 64k*64k*64k normal-nodes big 20:53 * Jordach has 120fps + 20:55 Krock ye..the style is gettin' better 20:57 Jordach CraigyDavi, wasn't lying either 20:57 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/DONWUgK.png 21:13 Miner_48er why are old urls not compatible with the updated website? 21:14 CraigyDavi They should be compatible soon. 21:15 Miner_48er ok what was the problem? 21:15 PenguinDad Miner_48er: forum software switch 21:16 Miner_48er so would the solution be to add an alias for compatibility? 21:17 CraigyDavi It will either be a redirect or the actual format of the post links will be change backed to how it was before 21:17 PenguinDad we would need url_rewrite rules 21:18 kaeza the forum is still under mainteinance, so please be a bit patient 21:19 markveidemanis what the actual fuck 21:19 markveidemanis https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9090 21:19 markveidemanis no [h] support 21:19 kaeza markveidemanis, re-submit the post 21:20 markveidemanis not with this interface... 21:20 markveidemanis why??? 21:20 kaeza uhh... there's an "edit" button on the top-right 21:21 CraigyDavi Headers are working now 21:22 markveidemanis I hate the interface 21:22 markveidemanis What happened to punbb 21:22 CraigyDavi "found it lacking in some needed features" 21:51 Sokomine regarding the forum software change: how do i read *new* posts? it seems it links only to the start of the topic? 21:52 Jordach Sokomine, click that date 21:53 Sokomine jordach: ah! thanks. i thought it was that icon at the start, but that does nothing. the date works fine 22:15 Sokomine hmmm. did the link to topics change? 22:15 PenguinDad Sokomine: yes 22:34 Sokomine urgs 22:35 Sokomine i've linked an awful lot of postings - most of them introductions of mods, but some also about other very intresting topics - and all those bookmarks are now crap? 22:35 Sokomine er, bookmarked. but also linked in my postings 22:35 Jordach Sokomine, yarp 22:36 Sokomine whom to shoot for this? 22:36 ShadowNinja Sokomine: I made some compatability code. I don't knwo if it's been added though. 22:37 Sokomine shadowninja: ah! that would be very very good. hope it gets added soon 22:38 khonkhortisan My pseudocode always runs smoother than my real code 22:47 kaeza https://twitter.com/0xabad1dea/status/455908744296407040 22:48 kaeza also, dat background <3 22:56 zsoltisawesome hey all 23:06 Jordach huh 23:06 Jordach wiw 23:06 Jordach wow* 23:06 Jordach i've realised how long 240 frames is 23:07 Jordach it's like an insane time in blender, but if you think about it, it's just 10 seconds 23:38 khonkhortisan I have a volume of (11,4,-3)(13,4,-5). I use for i in VoxelArea:iterp(pos1, pos2) do and the first thing i is set to is 11! I should switch it out for speakers that only go to 10. 23:39 khonkhortisan and the default cube is two metres cubed. 23:41 khonkhortisan That's what I get for copying code. I only copied part of it. 23:55 khonkhortisan What's a guaranteed-invalid player name? nil isn't working for areas' version minetest.is_protected. 23:55 khonkhortisan *override of