Time  Nick            Message
00:03 Eater4          !next
00:03 MinetestBot     Another satisfied customer. Next!
00:04 Eater4          ShadowNinja can u have shadowbot do that
00:05 Eater4          Lq
00:40 arsdragonfly    !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 16000
00:40 MinetestBot     arsenalmp.no-ip.org:16000 is up (1325ms)
01:46 ShadowNinja     ~give Eater4 echo Already done.  <next>
01:46 ShadowBot       Eater4: Already done. Another satisfied customer. Next!
02:16 crazyR          !up 37.187.177.180 31000
02:16 MinetestBot     37.187.177.180:31000 is up (9ms)
03:05 Minty_          Hello ~
03:06 Minty_          .................
03:06 Minty_          .Silence
03:06 Minty_          wow
05:46 stormchaser3000 hi
05:46 stormchaser3000 does anyone know how to get ahold of sapier's android builds?
07:03 Krock           ehm hello?
07:18 Mikerhinos      hi
07:37 reactor         Ehlo.
08:11 Mikerhinos      mithril is the deepest ore ?
08:26 Krock           http://pastebin.com/cPsxUBeR
08:26 Krock           Mah minetest crashed
08:27 Krock           boo-hooo
08:32 sfan5           Krock: buy more RAM
08:32 Krock           hmm I though 2 GB is the limit for a 32-bit system, or was it 4?
08:33 reactor         2^32 bytes
08:34 reactor         4.
08:34 Krock           4294967296 ok, then I could upgrade
08:35 Mikerhinos      so my ubuntu 32bits won't use my 8Go ?
08:35 reactor         You could address more if you have PAE.
08:35 reactor         Mikerhinos: ^
08:35 reactor         People still use Ubuntu?
08:36 reactor         I thought it'd been broken for ages.
08:36 sfan5           reactor: Ubuntu is ok, but the Unity is a piece of shit
08:37 Mikerhinos      no they just changed the window manager to Unity by default and a lot of people quit, like me a few years ago
08:37 Mikerhinos      now i gave it a second shot, and i'm getting used to it
08:37 reactor         I'm not talking about windows managers. I'm talking about under the hood.
08:37 sfan5           Mikerhinos: use Xubuntu or Kubuntu before it's too late
08:38 reactor         Change of a default WM is not a problem for experinced users.
08:38 sfan5           reactor: the "under the hood" stuff is ok
08:38 sfan5           but there are things like this:
08:38 sfan5           I can have libav and libav-dev but NOT libav-extra (with mp3 support) and libav-dev
08:39 Mikerhinos      sfan5, already tried it but there are so many online help ressources for ubuntu, i know that many are true no matter the window manager, but as i said i'm getting used to Unity lol
08:40 * tim_flatus    shudders.
08:41 Mikerhinos      ok i just have to install apt://linux-generic-pae to support more than 4go, thx reactor for the tip :)
08:42 Mikerhinos      supposed to be automatically installed if system detects more than 4go on installation though, will try to install and see if it says "package already installed", just to be sure lol
08:47 Calinou         :( I did my checks wrongly, it looks like you can't light up wheat or cotton enough at night
08:48 Calinou         torch is light level 13, crop needs light level 13... so it can't have light level 13
08:48 Calinou         lava is also 13
08:48 Calinou         LIGHT_MAX is 14, I thought it was 15
08:48 Calinou         sfan5, "before it's too late"?
08:48 Calinou         even 14.04 is probably fine
08:49 sfan5           lelwat
08:49 tim_flatus      Calinou: Crops should not be able to grow by torchlight, that's silly.
08:49 sfan5           you should be able to grow crops using some special light
08:49 Calinou         why not? (-:
08:49 sfan5           which is impossible like this
08:50 Calinou         I'm surprised LIGHT_MAX is 14 though and not 15
08:50 tim_flatus      Because of Realism In Computer Games.
08:50 sfan5           it would also be realistic to have a special light that allows crops to grow
08:50 Mikerhinos      i'm on 14.04 and it's really fine
08:50 tim_flatus      "Special" being the operative word. Like gro-lamps you mean.
08:51 tim_flatus      Nothing should grow by torchlight.
08:51 Calinou         super_glow_glass in moreblocks is light level 15
08:51 Calinou         (maybe it's just 14 actually, 15 is reserved to sun)
08:53 tim_flatus      Perhaps you need to make GM wheat mod. :p
08:54 * tim_flatus    hides.
08:57 Mikerhinos      wow, all the water in my cave is turned to ice and snow, i guess it's winter lol
09:00 tim_flatus      That reminds me - can you retrieve a "time of year" value? How does minetest work out that it is winter?
09:02 sfan5           tim_flatus: there are no seasons
09:02 sfan5           (assuming you don't have a mod that adds them)
09:02 tim_flatus      That's what I thought.
09:04 tim_flatus      I'm sure I saw a year length setting. Does that not do anything?
09:05 Calinou         there's season settings in the default game
09:05 Calinou         Minetest, yes
09:06 tim_flatus      yep. year_days
09:07 Mikerhinos      i don't have any season mod, and water all around my house and in caves is turned to ice or snow
09:07 tim_flatus      Does this only affect default:ice in default_game?
09:09 tim_flatus      Sorry minetest_game. Must read before posting. :/
09:10 crazyR          Krock: have you got a low resolution texture pack you could use it might improve you fps
09:11 Krock           crazyR, default.
09:13 crazyR          Il try try and create a low res texute pack when i get a moment, I have no fps issues.
09:13 Krock           lol?! searching paramat's minimalistic icons pack
09:14 crazyR          lol yeah but they it doesnt have the same feel haha
09:15 tim_flatus      I can see default:water* is in group 'freezes' and specifies a node to change into. Does anyone know where the code is that tells it when to freeze? Is it hard or soft-coded?
09:16 Krock           it freezes when there's now near to it
09:16 Krock           *snow
09:21 tim_flatus      So I'm guessing it's hard-coded with nothing exposed to the API? Or at least it does not seem to be documented.
09:21 sfan5           IIRC that part is done in C++
09:21 sfan5           but I'm not really sure
09:23 tim_flatus      All I want is a 'minetest.get_year_day' really.
09:23 tim_flatus      ... with brackets on.
09:34 Krock           ~up 85.1.67.73
09:34 ShadowBot       Krock: 85.1.67.73 port 30000 is up (218ms)
09:35 Krock           !up 85.1.67.73
09:35 MinetestBot     85.1.67.73:30000 is up (38ms)
09:37 tim_flatus      foo bar humbug
09:41 tim_flatus      wwowkd?
09:49 tim_flatus      I may have mentioned that I've been running minetest on very low-end equipment: I have just acquired a lappy with a half-way decent video card that allows me to use shaders. I have to say, wow. That actually is quite clever.
09:52 Krock           Cool. I don't have shaders
09:53 tim_flatus      The fudging of low-res textures to create a believable 3d environment really is quite cool.
09:55 tim_flatus      When I first saw screenshots I didn't really 'get' it. Mind you, I'd been building stuff in Sauerbraten.
09:55 tim_flatus      I now understand that there is just no comparison between the two.
09:57 reactor         xrandr -o inverted
09:58 crazyR          !up 37.187.177.180 31000
09:58 MinetestBot     37.187.177.180:31000 is up (9ms)
09:58 crazyR          ~up 37.187.177.180 31000
09:58 ShadowBot       crazyR: 37.187.177.180 port 31000 is up (205ms)
09:58 crazyR          where is shadowbot based? that is a huge diffrence
10:00 PenguinDad      I think ShadowBot is somewhere in the US
10:02 Krock           ./whois of ShadowBot: Server: cameron.freenode.net (Vilnius, Lithuania, EU)
10:03 sfan5           Krock: that is which freenode server ShadowBot is connected to
10:03 PenguinDad      Krock: that doesn't mean anything
10:03 Krock           sfan5, I thought it searchs the best server in the near to connect to
10:03 sfan5           no
10:03 PenguinDad      ~ip
10:03 Krock           oh
10:09 Calinou         <tim_flatus> When I first saw screenshots I didn't really 'get' it. Mind you, I'd been building stuff in Sauerbraten.
10:09 tim_flatus      I want to remap scroll wheel moves to something like KEY_RIGHT and KEY_LEFT. Does anyone know how to reference mouse wheel up / down in minetest.conf?
10:09 Calinou         Sauerbraten is not known for beautiful textures
10:09 Calinou         you can't change mouse actions, sadly
10:10 sfan5           you can
10:10 sfan5           recompile irrlicht
10:10 tim_flatus      :( OK, I will get a USB mouse then.
10:10 melmux          that is nt very practical sfan :)
10:10 tim_flatus      The touchpad scroll function is slightly dangerous in game terms.
10:11 PenguinDad      You could also build a special mouse and special drivers
10:11 sfan5           s/and special drivers//
10:12 sfan5           if you make your special mouse use the USB HID standard you don't need drivers
10:12 tim_flatus      ?? no I just need a mouse with a real scroll wheel. Nothing special.
10:12 ShadowBot       tim_flatus: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
10:13 sfan5           wat
10:13 sfan5           ^ ShadowNinja
10:13 tim_flatus      whoops.
10:13 sfan5           ?? test
10:13 sfan5           ?? help
10:13 ShadowBot       sfan5: help [<plugin>] [<command>]
10:14 * tim_flatus    stops leaning on the bot's control panel.
10:15 PenguinDad      ?? up 37.187.177.180 31000
10:15 ShadowBot       PenguinDad: 37.187.177.180 port 31000 is up (207ms)
10:26 Mikerhinos      i have that error every 2-3s : "12:22:44: ERROR[ServerThread]: Server::ProcessData(): Cancelling: peer 6 not found
10:26 Mikerhinos      ", restarted clients and server, after a few minutes, still the same :s
10:26 Mikerhinos      did a clear_objects too
10:27 PenguinDad      Mikerhinos: just ignore it
10:28 arsdragonfly    !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 16000
10:28 MinetestBot     arsenalmp.no-ip.org:16000 seems to be down
10:32 Mikerhinos      well i'd be happy to ignore it, problem is if we break a block, we won't have it in our inventory, and if we put a block on the floor from our inventory, we still have the same quantity, like if server was ignoring all moves
10:34 Krock           Mikerhinos, then downgrade your MT version
10:34 reactor         Mikerhinos: creative?
10:34 troller         connection.cpp now very stable, you can play 3-5 minutes without reconnect!
10:34 Mikerhinos      no creative
10:36 reactor         Someone needs to kick Buildcraft's developer's balls really hard.
10:36 reactor         There are too many "Admin"s trying to join.
10:36 reactor         Why don't people change their default nick?
10:36 reactor         I think setting a name must be enforced, otherwise we end up with a bunch of Guests or Admins.
10:37 reactor         Might as well name guests "mingebag".
10:37 Krock           and every 2nd user sais me "help, I can't craft" and "how to set home???" cuz they're playing on a tablet or just on a not-PC-game
10:40 sfan5           reactor: I recently removed two worldcraft apps from the play store via DMCA
10:40 reactor         ?
10:40 sfan5           worldcraft/buildcraft
10:40 sfan5           the people who created the first minetest android rip-off
10:41 Mikerhinos      i had "lime minetest" from the play store the other day, and it's not available anymore, was really buggy though
10:43 Krock           When't the official android version gonna publish?
10:43 Krock           *When's
10:43 sfan5           Krock: maybe with 0.4.10
10:43 Krock           okay
10:43 Mikerhinos      cool
10:44 Mikerhinos      will it be able to connect pc servers ?
10:44 sfan5           yes
10:44 sfan5           the anroid version will be full-featured
10:44 sfan5           android*
10:44 Mikerhinos      great, because last time i tried minecraft pocket, it wasn't
10:44 sfan5           I don't think MC:PE ever will
10:44 Mikerhinos      so it could get some more minecraft players in minetest
10:45 reactor         What's the big fuss about it being "illegal"?
10:45 reactor         I mean, buildcraft
10:45 sfan5           buildcraft devs did not posts THEIR src code
10:46 reactor         ah
10:46 Mikerhinos      is there a minetest renaming in the future ? A friend of me thought that when i was speaking about minetest on facebook, it was actually some sort of "beta" or daily of minecraft :s
10:47 Mikerhinos      because of the "test" in the name
10:47 sfan5           I don't think Minetest will be renamed
10:49 Krock           Mikerhinos, it already got renamed once from minetest-c55 to minetset
10:49 Mikerhinos      don't think too, but it can be confusing for some people. "Test" is employed for unfinished stuff, instable software etc... :s
10:49 sfan5           people need to stop associating test with unfinished then
10:49 Mikerhinos      lol yes
10:49 sfan5           but it's right
10:50 sfan5           Minetest is not finished
10:50 sfan5           and it will not be in the next 2 years
10:50 troller         reactor, admins from ios
10:50 Mikerhinos      it will never be i guess, because people are too creative and always release new stuff lol
10:50 sfan5           :S
10:50 sfan5           reactor, troller: Unfortanely it isn't that easy to remove stuff from the App Store
10:50 reactor         When a project is finished, it is usually dead as well.
10:51 Mikerhinos      that's what i like in these type of games, everyweek you have new things to play with
10:51 GhostDoge       sfan5: I only know one finished software xfig
10:51 reactor         For example, see "thttpd".
10:51 troller         Mikerhinos, freeminer is renamed version of minetest ;)
10:51 reactor         Does anyone ever remind of it?
10:52 reactor         While it's still a good piece of software, no one reminds of it, because it's "finished".
10:52 reactor         There always must be maintained a minimal level of development.
10:52 reactor         Otherwise, devs leave.
10:56 reactor         ...is there a way to convert sqlite map to leveldb?
10:56 sfan5           reactor: minetest --server --migrate leveldb --world <mapdir>
10:56 Mikerhinos      when i see how many $$$ minecraft is, i wonder how you guys can spend so many time to offer us players a so polished game for free lol
10:58 Krock           Mikerhinos, MC is a horrible waste of money, players think: "Ah it costs alot, then it must be very good"
11:00 reactor         sfan5: oh, ty
11:01 reactor         MC also lacks modularity.
11:01 reactor         Can't hook up things to it.
11:02 Mikerhinos      problem is : a few people is aware of minetest...i discovered it with luck on google, if you check even on the biggest french video game website for it, it doesn't even have a single article on the subject (http://www.jeuxvideo.com/recherche/jeux/minetest.htm)
11:04 Krock           I found it over google, searching for a free MC alternative, found Minetest 0.3.1 or somewhat
11:07 Mikerhinos      yes it's not that easy to find, even if it's maybe the best free alternative
11:08 GhostDoge       I found minetest on Holarse
11:11 troller         mc have quality
11:15 Krock           MC have quality, on cost of CPU and graphic card. MT tries to get the best out of poor computers
11:17 Mikerhinos      to be honest, i had less distance of view AND fps on MC
11:17 Krock           to be honest, I don't know how MC's inventory looks like.. that crap never started on my PC
11:18 Mikerhinos      maybe the fact that i was playing on Windows DirectX for MC and Linux OpenGL for MT is the difference
11:18 sfan5           windows usually makes things a bit slower
11:18 Mikerhinos      to be honest, the few days i played MC was on an illegal client...
11:18 Krock           Mikerhinos, you're a bad boy! UUUH
11:19 * Krock         slaps Mikerhinos a bit with a large trout
11:19 Mikerhinos      i was blind, but now i see, and i'm on a free OS and MT lol
11:19 sfan5           ubunth is not a free OS
11:20 sfan5           ubuntu*
11:24 Mikerhinos      i don't remember the word, in french it's "libre", which can be translated in english to free, but also "gratuit"
11:26 Mikerhinos      we have too much words in french lol
11:30 Mikerhinos      mithril tools are the top notch ?
11:35 Krock           huh?
11:57 Mikerhinos      in MC, top tools are diamond tools, in MT it seems to be mithril ones ?
11:57 MinetestBot     GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Performance optimized button to button mask evaluation 28854495b1 2014-04-03T20:26:26+02:00 http://git.io/H_L9XA
11:58 sfan5           Mikerhinos: the mese pickaxe is the best tool
11:58 Krock           mithril is good too, but diamond and mese are better
11:58 Mikerhinos      ok thanks :) i have more mese than mithril so i was thinking it was mithril :)
11:59 GhostDoge       I everytime pulverize the diamonds I found
12:00 Krock           same
12:00 Krock           I always get diamonds, but I search stone..
12:01 crazyR          yeah mese is more common that both mithril and diamond so would have though the best tool woul be made from them
12:01 reactor         mithril?
12:01 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
12:01 Krock           moreores:mithril_ore
12:01 reactor         Did I miss something?
12:01 Krock           hi PilzAdam
12:01 * GhostDoge     licks PilzAdam
12:05 Mikerhinos      hi PilzAdam
12:48 hoodedice       so
12:52 crazyR          function minetest.after(time, func, ...)
12:52 crazyR          table.insert(minetest.timers_to_add, {time=time, func=func, args={...}})
12:52 crazyR          end <-- how could that be changed to just send a notice rather than crash the server. when nil values are used in mods?
12:54 sfan5           function minetest.after(time, func, ...)
12:55 sfan5           if time == nil or func == nil then minetest.log("ERROR", "invalid minetest.after call by "..minetest.get_current_modname()) end
12:55 sfan5           table.insert(minetest.timers_to_add, {time=time, func=func, args={...}})
12:55 sfan5           end
12:55 sfan5           ^ crazyR: that should work
12:55 sfan5           oh wait
12:55 sfan5           2nd line this:
12:55 sfan5           if time == nil or func == nil then return minetest.log("ERROR", "invalid minetest.after call by "..minetest.get_current_modname()) end
12:56 crazyR          thanks
12:58 * Krock         discovered how nice a trout slap command can be on a server
12:59 crazyR          lol ohh i wawnt one, im adding one
12:59 * crazyR        opens ethicrush custom folder :D
13:03 Krock           (C) (R) TM Krock 2014
13:07 hoodedice       hoodediceâ„¢
13:22 sfan5           o/ Jordach
13:29 Jordach         hoodedice, i am now in possession of a G36
13:29 hoodedice       like, IRL?
13:29 Jordach         ya
13:30 hoodedice       pics or it didn't happen
13:46 matsetes        Hi guys!
13:46 Krock           hey
13:46 matsetes        Is there someone who has practice with technic mod?
13:47 Krock           there's a minetest technic mod channel
13:47 sfan5           matsetes: wait for RealBadAngel and ask him
13:47 Krock           #minetest-techic
13:47 matsetes        Thanks
13:48 matsetes        There is nobody!
13:48 matsetes        No, ok, miswriting
13:50 reactor         Is leveldb fully supported now?
13:50 sfan5           define "fully"
13:50 PilzAdam        reactor, was it ever non-fully supported?
13:50 reactor         I don't seem to be able to build with -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1
13:50 sfan5           pastebin output
13:54 reactor         or wait
13:54 reactor         actually...
14:32 reactor         It works.
14:32 reactor         Idk what happened.
14:33 reactor         Yet, when trying to --migrate, I see "Successfully migrated 0 blocks"
14:33 reactor         preceded by "ERROR[main]: Map::listAllLoadableBlocks(): Result will be missing all blocks that are stored in flat files"
14:33 sfan5           did anything happen to map.sqlite?
14:41 GhostDoge       reactor: what was the command?
14:42 reactor         minetest --server --migrate leveldb --world ${ВОРЛД}
14:43 reactor         sfan5: seems to be there
14:44 sfan5           hm
14:44 sfan5           :S
14:44 sfan5           file a bug maybe
14:44 GhostDoge       reactor: make sure you put the world path behind --world
14:46 reactor         a full path?
14:46 reactor         How come?
14:47 sfan5           o/ EvergreenTree
14:47 GhostDoge       reactor: full and relative to the binary should work
14:47 EvergreenTree   \o
14:47 sfan5           EvergreenTree: http://soilnar.net
14:47 sfan5           meow
14:50 reactor         GhostDoge: I see.
14:50 reactor         Thank you!
14:50 iqualfragile    !title
14:50 MinetestBot     iqualfragile: 8Dromeda Games
14:51 sfan5           *irc stats updated*
14:51 iqualfragile    sfan5:
14:51 iqualfragile    http://play2.soilnar.net/socket.js:11: ReferenceError: notification is not defined
14:52 sfan5           iqualfragile: try again just in case celeron55 already fixed this
14:53 iqualfragile    nope
14:53 sfan5           hm
14:53 sfan5           I relayed the bug report to celeron55
14:53 sfan5           ( #8dromeda )
15:15 * Jordach       just avoided a heart attack
15:16 Jordach         Total:-£79.97 <- read as bank balance
15:21 us`0gb          Jordach: That doesn't look good at all. What happened to all the money?
15:21 Jordach         us`0gb, that's the stuff i bought earlier
15:22 Jordach         actual total is ~£300
15:22 us`0gb          Okay. I thought you were in the negative.
15:22 Jordach         us`0gb, i didn't read!
15:23 us`0gb          It happens. I fail to read things correctly all the time.
15:24 Jordach         fun fact: i get higher scores on 2048 on my tablet than my desktop
15:25 us`0gb          Jordach: Is 2048 that old Nintendo game?
15:25 Jordach         http://gabrielecirulli.github.io/2048/
15:28 tim_flatus      I found MineTest in the Debian repository. I've never played MC.
15:32 iqualfragile    hmm… reached 256
15:32 us`0gb          Minetest in the Debian repository is outdated. You may want to compile it yourself, tim_flatus.
15:33 us`0gb          Or use Debian Testing.
15:33 Jordach         \o/ https://cdn.mediacru.sh/T9Mcwz09sVED.png
15:34 us`0gb          I don't know what's up with the version in Debian Stable, but it also sometimes won't accept my password.
15:34 us`0gb          Seems to be a long since fixed bug though. I've never had it happen in modern versions.
15:43 ShadowNinja     crazyR: You got lucky on that first one.  Minet
15:44 ShadowNinja     est only checks things on server steps and you must have triggered that just before a step.
15:45 ShadowNinja     Most pings are 200+ ms.  As evidenced by the server list.
15:45 ShadowNinja     sfan5: ?? Is one of ShadowBot's prefix strings.
15:46 ShadowNinja     (Prefix characters are a separate setting)
15:46 tim_flatus      us`0gb: The version in Testing is ok
15:46 tim_flatus      0.4.9
15:47 us`0gb          tim_flatus: Yeah, it's the version in Debian Stable that is outdated and sometimes buggy.
15:47 tim_flatus      The build was updated less than a month ago.
15:51 Issa2013        hello
15:51 Issa2013        i m on minetest 0.4.9
15:51 Issa2013        well i need some mod so i will used minetest_plus
15:52 Issa2013        i have added on my directory /home/mynmae/.minetest/game/minetest_plus
15:52 Issa2013        but i can see it when i played on minetest what is wrong please ?
15:53 GhostDoge       it is games not game
15:55 reactor         Is there a way to make saplings spawn trees immediately?
15:55 crazyR          ShadowNinja: are you on about the ping being so low?
15:56 crazyR          !up 37.187.177.180 31000
15:56 MinetestBot     37.187.177.180:31000 is up (11ms)
15:56 crazyR          !up 37.187.177.180 31000
15:56 MinetestBot     37.187.177.180:31000 is up (11ms)
15:57 crazyR          !up 37.187.177.180 31000
15:57 MinetestBot     37.187.177.180:31000 is up (9ms)
15:57 Issa2013        GhostDoge, :) yes it's better thanks but no monster on this game how add it ?
15:58 GhostDoge       ?? up 85.1.67.73
15:58 ShadowBot       GhostDoge: 85.1.67.73 port 30000 is up (218ms)
15:59 crazyR          oops lol
15:59 crazyR          but yeah as you can see it isnt luck lol
16:00 Issa2013        i found this https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack
16:00 Issa2013        i just need to add it like a mod ?
16:01 ShadowNinja     crazyR: Hmmm, odd.  Maybe MTB is located very close.  Then again, SB's connection isn't all that great.
16:01 crazyR          its a dedicate server located in france.
16:08 shadowzone      Hi
16:09 shadowzone      Another bot?
16:09 shadowzone      Hi crazy
16:09 shadowzone      *R
16:14 iqualfragile    ok, Jordach, i can reliably reach 256, but afterwards it gets hard because 2 and 4 tiles spawn and you can not not move anything for a turn
16:18 kahrl           so glad I beat that game :D I have time to study again
16:19 rubenwardy      Can someone close this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5087&p=2
16:20 * rubenwardy    has a new version of the Node box editor, but can not be bothered to go through the release process
16:21 iqualfragile    rubenwardy: git push, done
16:21 rubenwardy      I need to make a windows build, and then make sure it works on both platforms.
16:22 rubenwardy      It takes ~ an hour
16:22 iqualfragile    rubenwardy: why not ignore windows for now?
16:22 iqualfragile    nobody uses it anyways
16:22 rubenwardy      true
16:23 Krock           iqualfragile: nobody and me
16:24 iqualfragile    Krock: there seem to be a virus on your hdd, please visit http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ to remove it
16:24 Krock           I know that one from debian
16:24 Krock           but for me: gfto, linux
16:24 Krock           err typos
16:25 Jordach         iqualfragile, suggest that to people who won't listen to your foss rants
16:25 rubenwardy      https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=136103#p136103
16:25 rubenwardy      !title
16:25 MinetestBot     rubenwardy: [Editor] Node Box Editor [0.6.2 -!- properties and FPS limitation] (Page 9) — Minetest-related pro[...]
16:42 rubenwardy      Windows build added
16:42 PilzAdam        Windows build removed
16:44 EvergreenTree   PilzAdam: if people want to use windows, let them
16:44 PilzAdam        EvergreenTree, wat?
16:44 rubenwardy      lol
16:44 GhostDoge       PilzAdam: let's make minetest not build for windows anymore ;)
16:45 EvergreenTree   eh I think I jumped into the middle of a discussion in which I didn't know the context
16:45 EvergreenTree   sorry
16:45 EvergreenTree   :P
16:47 rubenwardy      windows build for the Node Box editor added, EvergreenTree.
16:57 crazyR          is there anyreason why chanserv would fail to op me on a channel i have registered
17:02 CWz             what is the earliest version of Windows that minetest will run in?
17:11 PilzAdam        crazyR, #freenode
17:15 rubenwardy      new youtube video by me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6lByr9UaWM
17:15 rubenwardy      Powder toy
17:15 rubenwardy      a sand box game thing
17:16 sfan5           !title
17:16 MinetestBot     sfan5: Powder toy - dual gas lighter - YouTube
17:16 PilzAdam        rubenwardy, have you build a nuclear reactor yet?
17:16 rubenwardy      not yet
17:16 rubenwardy      Build an electron accelerator
17:17 PilzAdam        the ones I build always melt the titanium arround them :-/
17:17 * rubenwardy    has 11 youtube videos!
17:19 rubenwardy      PilzAdam: Exotic material is awesome. And photons too.
17:30 Calinou         s/x/r
17:34 rubenwardy      lol
17:42 * GhostDoge     is downloading that powdry toy
18:27 rubenwardy      PilzAdam: nuclear reacter melt down :(
18:31 Mikerhinos      rubenwardy, does it explode and nuke half of the map ? lol
18:34 Mikerhinos      is there a way to render water minecraft-style ? If i put a water source on top of a 1 block tower it acts pretty weird, like falling on floor and waving around the tower, it won't make a fountain on top of it :s
18:37 werwerwer_      Mikerhinos : i suspect you just should turn "infinite liquid" on
18:40 Mikerhinos      "finite liquid" ? but if i turn it off, i won't have weather and underground springs :s i wonder if it could be "liquid_relax", set to 2 by default
18:43 sfan5           test video recorded directly from game by pressing f8: https://mediacru.sh/odpFM0pusqOT
18:43 Mikerhinos      maybe disabling liquid_relax so the water source remain a source
18:44 Mikerhinos      sfan5, sweet
18:46 Mikerhinos      blocks generating/display in MT are so fast...i remember in MC all the times that i could just see all caves/dungeons around me because it just rendered blocks soooo slow, i knew where to mine and find cool stuff lol
18:50 werwerwer_      actually that happens in minetest as well, in multiplayer, due to slow servers
18:52 Mikerhinos      well i always had the problem in MC, solo or my own server, and in MT, never
18:53 Mikerhinos      in MC when you just run straight forward, sometimes blocks weren't generated until i was 3m from it...it was very annoying
19:05 Mikerhinos      world edit schematics from MC and MT are compatible ?
19:06 sfan5           no
19:07 Calinou         MC generation has no issues
19:09 Jordach         it depends on hardware
19:11 Calinou         with decent CPU and decent HDD, no problem
19:14 Mikerhinos      Calinou, bah franchement la différence entre MC et MT chez moi est flagrante, même en framerate et distance de vue mais bon c'est plus le rapport windows/directX et ubuntu/openGL qui doit jouer pour ça vu que MC j'y jouais sur windows
19:15 Mikerhinos      sorry for the frog language lol
19:16 Calinou         je ne joue plus à Minecraft depuis janvier
19:16 Calinou         donc, OSEF ;)
19:17 Mikerhinos      j'y joue plus depuis que j'ai découvert (un peu par hasard) MT donc OSEF aussi mdr
19:20 Mikerhinos      back to Shakespear, lol, anyone knows what value to change in minetest.conf to enable "fountains" ? Like make a tower of 1 block wide and 4 blocks height, and put a water source on top of it and the water just flows infinite from the 4 sides to make a fountain ?
19:20 Calinou         finite_liquid = 1
19:20 Calinou         ?
19:20 Calinou         [beware: may discover exact value of pi]
19:21 Mikerhinos      i already have finite = 1 and it's too realistic : when i put water source, it just falls on ground like if i was pouring a real bucket of water on it :s
19:22 Mikerhinos      wait no, finite_liquid was "false" by default and i changed it to "true", not 1
19:22 Mikerhinos      that may be my problem
19:39 Mikerhinos      ok so finite_water has to be false to make fountains, too bad for the weather and underground springs :(
19:40 GhostDoge       for what do you need weather?
19:41 CraigyDavi_     There has been a diamond block house built on my server. I have no idea how they got so many resources considering they joined only a few days ago. Are noclip functions stored client side? It's the only idea I have...
19:42 Eater4          Does anyone know how to set a server password
19:42 Eater4          ?
19:42 Krock           CraigyDavi_, Give me a moment. I'll explain.
19:43 GhostDoge       Eater4: look in minetest.conf.example
19:43 sfan5           Eater4: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L277-278
19:43 sfan5           RTFM before asking
19:43 CraigyDavi_     Eater4: default_password = whatever
19:43 CraigyDavi_     Ok thanks Krock
19:44 Krock           CraigyDavi_, item_drop and builtin item do not like each other. So if you punch one item in a server "tick", and at the same time, the item_drop tries to collect it, then it gets doubled because they're not enough fast to remove the item.
19:45 CraigyDavi_     I don't use item_drop mod. Only builtin_item on its own.
19:46 Krock           Then it must be picked up by a double-click at once. Or the use hacked clients. Or there's some crafting which allows infinite diamonds
19:46 Mikerhinos      GhostDoge, just for fun, it makes water freeze or turn into snow on winter
19:47 CraigyDavi_     So if you double-click items they sometime duplicate?
19:47 Krock           If I had an extreme lag, I would test it.
19:48 Krock           Doesn't seem to work with a lag of 3.5s
19:48 CraigyDavi_     I installed the replacer mod. I'm not intirely sure what it does...maybe that could be a cause. I installed it a couple days ago.
19:49 Mikerhinos      do you have elevator mod ?
19:49 Krock           The replacer mod allows replacing nodes with dirt or other things. Well, I cancelled testing it after 10 hours, after I discovered the lava abuse
19:50 Krock           elevator or travelnet? that's the question.
19:50 CraigyDavi_     Ah i see. probably not a cause then
19:50 CraigyDavi_     Maybe noclip. Do you know if its stored client side? People could just fly down and mine diamonds easily.
19:51 Krock           Minetest should check for invalid data and reset the players to the real position.
19:52 Krock           Wtf? why am i soo formal now??
19:52 CraigyDavi_     Thats a part of anticheat functions?
19:52 Mikerhinos      i have travelnet, i can make elevators, and it's pretty easy to find diamonds with it : just mine under your feet until y-500 mini and wait for a cave, rince and repeat. But a full house made of diamond...pretty suspect.
19:53 CraigyDavi_     disable_anticheat = true Well I have this inabled...
19:53 Krock           LOL?
19:53 Krock           Ehem...would be cool if set to false
19:54 Krock           Mikerhinos, beware of lava
19:54 CraigyDavi_     Yeah I think ill do that. Thanks.
19:55 werwerwer_      CraigyDavi_ : can't you look in logs how that house was built?
19:56 Krock           (yes, "player xy dug block z at position xyz" could be helpful)
19:58 CraigyDavi_     yep they have got it the normal way. Mining diamonds
19:58 Mikerhinos      Krock, i died so many times today because of that lol, until i got tired and activate fly mode when building my elevator serie lol
19:59 CraigyDavi_     They mined them. Crafted and placed the blocks.
19:59 Mikerhinos      9 diamonds for a block, mini 100 blocks for a house...they mined around 1000 diamonds in a few days ?
19:59 werwerwer_      some duper on some server told me he can produce infinite diamond blocks if he had stack of them. donnow details
19:59 Krock           Mikerhinos, how about a 1x2 digging? one is 2 steps deeper than the other, so you see if something omes
19:59 Krock           *comes
20:00 Mikerhinos      Krock, i would consume twice pickaxes lol. I hate cheating and flying is, but i got tired of falling in lava caves lol
20:01 Krock           try setting "mg_flags = no_lava_you_stupid_mapgen!!!
20:03 Mikerhinos      i like lava, not my feet, lol
20:04 Krock           JPRuehmann: 26/60 posts are "link dead" or "thanks"
20:04 Krock           WTF???
20:05 CraigyDavi_     haha yeah thats true
20:06 Krock           63 posts so far
20:06 CraigyDavi_     R.I.P Omploader.
20:07 * Krock         R.I.P megaupload
20:07 Mikerhinos      a thing that really disturb me though is mining steel (iron+coal irl) or making bronze with steel+copper (tin+copper irl), my kids are playing with me and i find it very cool if they can learn some things with MT, but learning wrong things when all real materials are available... :(
20:08 CraigyDavi_     yeah that was a shame. Now they just have MEGA
20:10 Krock           The kids think now, a sequoia tree grows within 0.46353s
20:11 Mikerhinos      days are way shorter than IRL they can see it quickly
20:13 Mikerhinos      i had to search the internet to find how to make bronze in MT, because i was trying to melt tin+copper
20:14 Krock           *cough* crafting guides
20:14 Mikerhinos      bronze is an alloy made to be soft, steel is made to be harder than iron, yes i have craft guide mod now, because of that
20:15 Krock           bronze is stronger than steel in MT, kinda strange, eh? :3
20:15 Mikerhinos      totally...
20:19 Mikerhinos      a friend of me is a blacksmith, he makes beautiful damascus knives for VIPs in France, and my kids play MT, we love the game, but these are some errors that shouldn't exist, moreover when all elements are already available :s
20:24 iqualfragile    Eater4: found out yet?
20:25 werwerwer_      speaking of materials, what irritate me most is mithril
20:25 werwerwer_      everyone knows it's lightweight and strong as hell IRL
20:25 werwerwer_      should be perfect for swords. but in minetest mithril swords does no damage
20:35 crazyR          sfan5: you here? for some reason your fork of the mapper mod is outputting a plain black image. not sure if other forks do the same
20:37 sfan5           crazyR: try "git reset HEAD~2 --hard"
20:37 sfan5           then compile again and try again
20:37 sfan5           if it works I screwed shit up
20:38 Mikerhinos      lol
20:41 Eater4          Found out what?
21:05 lordawe         hello
21:06 lordawe         can anybody help me with mg - experimental mapgen? I am having problems with generating villages
21:06 lordawe         ty
21:07 PilzAdam        lordawe, what exactly?
21:08 lordawe         look, my villages looks like this: http://pure-awe.com/screenshot_7674021.png
21:09 lordawe         no buildings at all
21:09 lordawe         i have nothing in minetest.conf related to this mod
21:09 PilzAdam        I think sfan5 could help you
21:09 sfan5           lordawe: post log output
21:09 lordawe         i tried to create several new worlds
21:09 lordawe         k
21:10 PilzAdam        ("post" means use a pastebin)
21:11 lordawe         http://pastebin.com/5Enjg6Hb
21:12 lordawe         thank you guys
21:26 lordawe         nothing?
21:27 crazyR          sfan5: this is taking a really long time to create the map. been about 15 mins so far and no output yet.
21:27 crazyR          sfan5: its just finished generating, and this time i got a nice white image instead lol
21:27 sfan5           wut
21:27 sfan5           so it's not my fault
21:28 sfan5           lordawe: try disabling plants
21:29 * sfan5         purrs and goes to bed
21:29 lordawe         i am trying it
21:34 lordawe         sfan5, it works in a new world where only mg mod is enabled, so I try to do something with it
21:34 lordawe         thanks
21:37 lordawe         thank you all. gn8
22:12 Mikerhinos      night everyone :)