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01:01 JaceVE sup
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02:19 hoodedice Anyone knows about World diff by Casimir?
02:24 hoodedice Also should I be downloading 'libluajit'?
02:39 hoodedice Umm, I'm getting this error in compilation
02:39 hoodedice filing a bug report
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02:45 hoodedice Hello
02:45 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:45 hoodedice ?
02:45 hoodedice From>
02:46 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:46 hoodedice Ragnar?
02:46 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:47 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:47 VanessaE you would be well-advised to take what Ragnar says with about 10kg of salt.
02:47 VanessaE (a single grain is...inadequate)
02:48 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:48 hoodedice I don't know man
02:48 hoodedice Ragnar's game was kinda nice though
02:48 hoodedice He got banned today
02:48 Exio4 the code doesn't looks from him
02:49 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:49 Exio4 some shit, yeah, but the mechanics of the game
02:49 hoodedice Oi man, you really think so?
02:49 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:50 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:50 hoodedice damn.
02:50 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:50 hoodedice hmm
02:50 hoodedice VanessaE, banned for flooding and abusing the bot right?
02:51 hoodedice This is kind of depressing though.
02:51 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:52 hoodedice hmm. I see.
02:52 Exio4 what game?
02:52 hoodedice Pixel Birds
02:52 VanessaE I don't recall seeing a recent ban
02:52 Exio4 i don't mean his
02:52 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:52 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:52 hoodedice He meant the original game
02:52 hoodedice lol
02:53 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:53 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:53 hoodedice lol
02:53 Exio4 what
02:53 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:53 Exio4 about the original game
02:53 Exio4 w/ real title
02:54 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:54 hoodedice Yes
02:54 Exio4 yep
02:54 hoodedice =|
02:54 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:54 hoodedice VanessaE: A few days back, Zane reported this new infringement - I think you've seen it
02:55 hoodedice http://www.globeminner.com/
02:55 hoodedice This time, shit gets deeper.
02:55 hoodedice See the reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Globeminner-Windows-Vista-2014-version-Pc/dp/B00DBCGC9C
02:55 hoodedice https://www.facebook.com/globeminner
02:55 Exio4 Sakis25: thanks!
02:55 VanessaE yeah I saw it
02:56 hoodedice They even used a screenie of your test world as a CD cover
02:56 VanessaE my texture pack test track
02:56 VanessaE yep
02:56 VanessaE not that I mind THAT too much
02:56 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:56 VanessaE it is free to use
02:56 VanessaE but fuck, $15 for a free game?
02:56 VanessaE :P
02:56 hoodedice Yeah, but I'm feeling sad about those people who were ripped off
02:56 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:56 hoodedice I think it is high time we made an official post on this
02:57 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:57 Exio4 Sakis25: aren't you searching for the original game?
02:57 hoodedice What about Sakis25?
02:57 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:57 Exio4 exactly
02:57 Sakis25 [deleted]
02:58 hoodedice VanessaE, I said this when that buildcraft shit was going on http://www.flightgear.org/flightprosim.html
02:58 hoodedice This one open source game? 40 rip offs?
02:58 hoodedice What is it like, WTFPL?
02:58 hoodedice I say it again, we NEED an official statement.
02:59 ShadowNinja hoodedice: cos^6(x) is short for (cos(x))^6.
02:59 hoodedice Thank you ShadowNinja, I figured that out around 3 hours ago
02:59 hoodedice XD.
02:59 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:00 hoodedice I had forgotten to put a bracket somewhere, that's why the answer didn't went through =/
03:00 hoodedice But yeah, thanks
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03:00 Exio4 i don't know what flappy bird is :(
03:01 Sakis25 [deleted]
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03:01 hoodedice People in the world are so jobless.
03:01 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:01 hoodedice No, we're sorry
03:01 hoodedice But I do know all my Greek letters!
03:01 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:02 hoodedice alpha, beta, gamma, delta...
03:02 hoodedice Nope.
03:02 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:02 VanessaE er, I though the the author took down flappy bird because it was basically ripping off Super Mario Bros?  (and then got death threats for taking it down) or something?
03:02 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:03 hoodedice αβγθ
03:03 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:04 hoodedice VanessaE, you know pretty well that once something gets famous, people like to sue it just because
03:04 VanessaE yep
03:04 hoodedice Look at facebook
03:04 hoodedice Went big, BOOM 5 lawsuits
03:04 hoodedice What wouldv'e happened to this guy?
03:04 hoodedice That's why it is a good thing we are so underground
03:05 hoodedice Mojang doesn't care... yet
03:05 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:05 hoodedice And if they lawsuit us, or anyone else with similar gameplay now, they'll be in the same situation as King.com vs Runtastic Games Inc.
03:06 hoodedice aka Candy Crush zwizzing Saga vs CandySwpe
03:06 hoodedice *CandySwipe
03:06 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:06 hoodedice King.com tried to enforce trademarks on CandySwipe, but also on irrelevant games such as Banner Rush Saga
03:07 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:07 hoodedice The result? See the comment section for CandySwipe on the Play Store
03:07 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:08 hoodedice For Candy Crush? Yeah, I know
03:08 hoodedice But I'm just pointing out the trademark scuffle
03:08 hoodedice Another reason why I want minetest's name to be changed
03:08 hoodedice Sakis25, that GTA clone - you built it from scratch?
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03:09 Megaf sfan5: Im compiling minetest on my odroid u3 right now
03:09 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:10 Megaf With LevelDB, LuaJIT, Gettext, Freetype
03:10 hoodedice See www.gritengine.com
03:10 Megaf fingers crossed
03:10 hoodedice android compiling
03:10 hoodedice Boss Detected
03:10 hoodedice Sakis25, heard of Gritengine?
03:11 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:11 hoodedice I was looking into it a while back - everything is written in lua
03:11 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:11 hoodedice You are on an IRC that belongs to a game engine -.-
03:11 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:12 hoodedice Sakis25, I *just* started my first semester in college with a CIS major
03:12 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:12 hoodedice ohkay... referee for?
03:12 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:12 hoodedice by prestotron and ragnar?
03:13 hoodedice I don't even. Are the three of you related?
03:13 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:14 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:14 hoodedice whole what>
03:14 hoodedice minetest?
03:14 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:14 hoodedice BAhahahaahhahaaha
03:14 hoodedice I found a new sig
03:14 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:14 hoodedice VanessaE!
03:15 hoodedice That 12 year old who couldn't even compile it?
03:15 hoodedice No wait. Not compile
03:15 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:15 hoodedice *download* it?
03:15 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:15 hoodedice I helped him for like 5 hours over downloading, installing and running minetest on ubuntu
03:16 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:16 hoodedice *facepalm* I remember - He was trying to cross compile to windows
03:16 hoodedice Ah yes, that
03:16 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:17 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:17 hoodedice html?
03:17 VanessaE hm?
03:17 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:17 hoodedice " Just prestotron7, he claimed to have made the whole game"
03:17 hoodedice Van, just don't fall off your chair while laughing
03:17 VanessaE wait a minute, which..... what?
03:18 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:18 hoodedice That guy couldn't even compile minetest for windows from *buntu
03:18 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:18 hoodedice OMG, what a day!
03:18 VanessaE oh G*d
03:19 hoodedice It is obvio not true lol
03:19 VanessaE well to be fair I can't compile for Windows either, BUT I've never tried either
03:19 VanessaE however,
03:19 VanessaE to claim he wrote the whole game?
03:19 VanessaE um, wut?
03:19 hoodedice I did once, with him - I failed. But since, I've been compiling every week
03:20 twoelk compiling for Windows?
03:20 hoodedice no, for xubuntu
03:20 Sakis25 [deleted]
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03:22 hoodedice Never needed to - I give out sfan's latest build to my server clients and then build a minetest with matching version for the server on my machine
03:22 hoodedice us`0gb, you just missed something awesome
03:22 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:22 Sakis25 [deleted]
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03:22 hoodedice Sakis25, wait for reply lol
03:23 us`0gb Aw. If I hadn't had client issues, I would have been here sooner.
03:23 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:23 twoelk not that anybody could confuse their quite distinct manners of talking
03:24 hoodedice celeron: Hey everyone, I changed the first page
03:24 hoodedice XD
03:24 hoodedice *CommunistCraft*
03:24 us`0gb I have a few disguises I like to use. None of them are Celeron though.
03:24 hoodedice I have a Celeron
03:24 hoodedice It's on my lap
03:24 hoodedice It also compiles Minetest in less than five minutes
03:25 us`0gb Yeah, mine's an X60 though, not a Celeron.
03:25 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:25 hoodedice Sakis, Crimelife3 is FOSS?
03:25 Megaf Yay, Just finished compiling minetest on my odroid u3
03:25 Megaf lets play
03:25 hoodedice Best of luck Megaf
03:25 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:26 hoodedice Titan. *faints*
03:26 * twoelk studies the first page of Minetest.net to see if hoodedice changed the Original author
03:26 * us`0gb tries to remember what channels he's usually on to join them, as he lost his channel list due to today's system installation
03:27 hoodedice twoelk -.-
03:27 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:27 us`0gb Is that a form of XML?
03:27 hoodedice Sorry, it was actually like this
03:28 hoodedice celeron55 : hey, i've got a new name for us: Communistcraft
03:28 us`0gb I know SGML, but not GML.
03:28 us`0gb We already used that name. It's not new.
03:28 hoodedice That too on minetest-dev
03:28 hoodedice And there I was, think -dev was all filled with C++ jargon
03:29 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:30 hoodedice !g GML
03:30 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_Markup_Language
03:30 hoodedice Doesn't look like that...
03:30 us`0gb Ah, got it.
03:30 Megaf !g XML
03:30 MinetestBot Megaf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML
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03:30 Megaf !g Megaf
03:30 MinetestBot Megaf: http://megaf.di.univaq.it/
03:31 Megaf not me
03:31 hoodedice Sakis25, did you not say that you hated game engines?
03:31 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:32 twoelk GML=MiddleLowgerman according to  ISO 639-3
03:32 hoodedice Is GML not GameMaker?
03:32 twoelk among many other things
03:32 Megaf well, minetest client kinda works on ondroid
03:32 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:33 Megaf like 3 or 4 SPF (Second per Frame)
03:33 hoodedice SPF
03:33 hoodedice rofl
03:33 hoodedice Megaf, I'm (tm)ing it
03:34 Megaf :)
03:34 hoodedice How scratch, Sakis25. There has to be a C++ or some other independent code it has to plug into
03:34 hoodedice BTW, are your games FOSS?
03:34 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:35 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:35 hoodedice Well, meh then, can't do anything about it
03:35 hoodedice I'll just go back to setting up my minetest build
03:36 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:36 twoelk so Sakis25 you are not going to share youre gamebuilding experience by contributing to minetest? ;'-(
03:37 hoodedice Sakis25, I don't know much code yet. I'm doing a what can be called a pseudocode course (but is not really) in college and I can barely read lua
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03:37 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:38 hoodedice The only reason I linger around FOSS games other than minetest and Flightgear is because I have a nice and easy way t understand how code works
03:38 hoodedice And I don't steal stuff. I'm not like that.
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03:38 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:38 hoodedice How old are you now?
03:38 hoodedice lemme guess, 30?
03:38 NakedFury 12 years older
03:39 NakedFury :D
03:39 hoodedice 30.
03:39 Sakis25 [deleted]
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03:39 hoodedice Close enough
03:39 hoodedice =P
03:39 Megaf my rollback.sqlite is huge
03:39 Megaf bigger than my map
03:39 hoodedice I'm like, just 18
03:39 Megaf is that a bug?
03:39 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:39 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:39 hoodedice Wow.
03:39 hoodedice Okay, I'm not 18
03:39 Megaf Ive done one game, once
03:40 hoodedice For all we know
03:40 hoodedice I'm not even hoodedice
03:40 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:40 VanessaE that isn't a bug, megaf, but if you find it getting too large you can delete it
03:40 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:40 notVanessaE See, I'm not hoodedice, and I'm not 18
03:40 VanessaE but bear in mind that doing so of course erases your rollback historyu
03:40 VanessaE -u
03:40 Megaf rollback.txt used to be much smaller
03:40 VanessaE no
03:40 VanessaE rollback.txt got used less.
03:40 notVanessaE I don't know that the derivative of x^6 is 6x^5
03:41 Megaf well, I need to go
03:41 notVanessaE I am not attending a Math Calculus course
03:41 VanessaE very finny, hoodedice.
03:41 Megaf cya
03:41 * Megaf will time out
03:41 VanessaE funny, too
03:41 Megaf good night
03:41 notVanessaE ShadowNinja did not help me out with a trigonometry doubt I had
03:42 notVanessaE And definitely, minecraft is better
03:42 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:43 twoelk better in freezing my systeme?
03:43 notVanessaE twoelk, sarcasm in progress
03:44 twoelk Minecraft= sarcasm in progress?
03:44 notVanessaE Oh, and this beard? It's fake. So fake I need to use a razor to *shave* it off
03:44 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:44 hoodedice *ahem*
03:46 twoelk actually I was visiting my sister lately and let myself be coaxed into building a house on the MC map of her friend
03:46 twoelk He was so proud of his map :-)
03:46 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:47 * twoelk visits the memories of his old MC map
03:47 twoelk ok I'll look it up , might have misspelled
03:47 hoodedice coaxed is right
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03:48 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:48 hoodedice coax, pronounced co-ux. Forcing someone to do something
03:48 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:48 hoodedice no prob
03:49 twoelk yeah "persuade" may be similar
03:49 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:49 VanessaE coax is a synonym to persuade, not force
03:49 * twoelk was so proud to know such a nice word in his not native language :-(
03:50 VanessaE and usually implies the person being coaxed still has a choice.
03:50 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:50 hoodedice twoelk, Consider this: I have a map, but I don't know what mods it uses - How do I find that out BEFORE I start the game?
03:50 VanessaE hoodedice: you don't.
03:50 hoodedice yes, VanessaE - was about to mention that
03:50 hoodedice No way? darn
03:50 VanessaE you have to play it, look for unknown nodes
03:50 twoelk run the mapper and look what nodes it colors?
03:51 VanessaE have worldedit handy, use the `//inspect on` command to find out what they were
03:51 hoodedice Actually I still have a list of mods
03:51 VanessaE then install those mods
03:51 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:51 hoodedice Sakis25,  you're not the first guy to do that
03:51 hoodedice Tell me it is not globeminner
03:51 twoelk there are and have been several of those around
03:52 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:52 hoodedice And the number of people duped... darn
03:52 hoodedice I'm not blaming you lol
03:52 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:52 hoodedice link?
03:52 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:52 twoelk niften+Prestotron=crevis
03:52 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:53 hoodedice ah
03:53 hoodedice Crevis
03:53 hoodedice Yup, Niften - that reminds me
03:53 hoodedice Niften and Pres were in it.
03:53 twoelk if it wasn't some shizophrenic game the two split over the project
03:53 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:54 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:54 twoelk can't remember them ever beeing on IRC at the same time
03:54 hoodedice They did
03:54 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:54 hoodedice Prestotron said he didn't like the 'others' anymore
03:55 hoodedice Some disagreement
03:55 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:55 hoodedice Then he wanted to work on Core devving
03:55 hoodedice the other devs for Crevis
03:55 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:56 hoodedice JORDACH!!! http://www.crevis.net/community.html
03:56 hoodedice Jordach's mdel OMG!
03:56 hoodedice *model
03:56 hoodedice Someone is gonna be pissed now
03:56 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:57 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:58 twoelk wonder whether that qualifies as "pissing on Jordach's lawn" (quoting an earlier statement of his)
03:58 hoodedice ~say Jordach: The guys at Crevis probably stole your model. Please check. http://www.crevis.net/community.html
03:58 ShadowBot hoodedice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
03:58 hoodedice ~say Jordach: The guys at Crevis probably stole your model. Please check. http://www.crevis.net/community.html
03:58 ShadowBot hoodedice: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
03:59 Sakis25 [deleted]
03:59 hoodedice I blended with it think very morning
04:00 hoodedice *this
04:00 hoodedice Only the feet are different
04:00 Sakis25 [deleted]
04:01 Sakis25 [deleted]
04:01 Sakis25 [deleted]
04:01 hoodedice VanessaE, Does changing the source code's license affect a source code which had been distributed under LGPL?
04:01 Sakis25 [deleted]
04:01 hoodedice MC is no longer indie
04:02 VanessaE I don't know
04:02 hoodedice Still, we should be contacting GNU to deal with all these infringements
04:03 twoelk Sakis25: http://jordach.deviantart.com/gallery/
04:04 Sakis25 [deleted]
04:05 Sakis25 [deleted]
04:05 hoodedice don''t bother
04:05 hoodedice I'm off to bed anyway
04:05 hoodedice "Compiling is so hard"
04:05 hoodedice #sarcasm
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04:07 twoelk|2 eh?
04:08 twoelk|2 oh well goin to bed as well
04:08 twoelk|2 nick twoelk
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04:11 Niften jordach
04:11 Niften is there a misunderstanding happening?
04:11 Niften I am free to explain where I got the rig
04:12 Niften ah
04:12 Niften he isn't on
04:12 Niften :l
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04:17 hoodedice Niften
04:17 Niften The model, I know
04:17 Niften I didn't steal it
04:17 hoodedice hmm?
04:17 Niften I couldn't have; he didn't put it up for download
04:17 hoodedice He did
04:17 Niften Oh.
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04:17 Niften Hoodedice
04:17 Niften That model isn't his
04:17 hoodedice How did you guess I got it?
04:17 Niften It's a minecraft model
04:17 hoodedice okay
04:17 Niften with a skin
04:18 hoodedice Just properly cite where you got it from
04:18 Niften I made that before I met jordach I think
04:18 Niften alright.
04:18 hoodedice And you're good to go
04:18 hoodedice About using the MT source code, I don't think you can change the license
04:18 hoodedice MT is LGPL 2
04:18 Niften hoodedice
04:19 hoodedice hmm?
04:19 Niften I quit using minetest, I'm working on a new game, and after that, redeveloping crevis with a custom engine
04:19 hoodedice Working on that 2D voxel one now?
04:19 Niften not exactly voxel
04:19 Niften it isn't block based
04:19 hoodedice Niften, I suggest you join minetest itself
04:19 Niften meh
04:20 hoodedice There is no need for differences really
04:20 Niften I am not experienced enough
04:20 hoodedice So what>
04:20 hoodedice Even I'm not
04:20 Niften What help would I be?
04:20 hoodedice Everyone learns
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04:20 Niften true det
04:20 hoodedice Just do what I do for now. Fill out bug reports and help people
04:20 Niften hoodedice
04:20 hoodedice Make skins, textures.
04:20 Niften want me to upload the model to mediashare and send the link to you?
04:21 hoodedice uh no thanks
04:21 Niften what exactly do you need?
04:21 hoodedice If it's not Jordach's I don't care
04:21 Niften the link where I got it from?
04:21 hoodedice No.
04:21 Niften it isn't jordach's.
04:21 hoodedice What I'm saying is
04:21 Niften I was looking for c4d models on google and I found one.
04:22 hoodedice Check where you got that model from, and then it's license under which it is distributed
04:22 Niften I animated minecraft for a bit (2-3 months) then used it for 1 render
04:22 hoodedice And then *cite* the author.
04:22 hoodedice Then you got blender skills Niften
04:22 Niften not blender
04:22 Niften c4d
04:22 hoodedice !g c4d
04:22 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://www.maxon.net/
04:23 Niften how..
04:23 Niften !g c4d
04:23 MinetestBot Niften: http://www.maxon.net/
04:23 hoodedice You *bought* C4D?
04:23 Niften yes
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04:24 Niften I wish I could give you an updated pic of the game; i've *paused* crevis atm
04:24 hoodedice $3700
04:24 Niften mhm
04:24 Niften [8:04:14 PM] Preston Cammarata: Hey you little shit. Sakis25 messaged me saying you stole Jordach's model for Crevis?
04:24 hoodedice Sorry bout that.
04:24 Niften so desperate
04:25 hoodedice If you cite the original author, no one would pester you over shiz anymore
04:25 Niften he pesters me all the time
04:25 Niften pretending he's 19
04:25 Niften saying he develops games in a few hours
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05:04 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Remove "Server -!- " prefix from player messages 9a3b7715e2 2014-02-26T21:00:22-08:00 http://git.io/3_mt4g
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06:15 ShadowNinja XKCD #1337 is coming up...
06:29 sfan5 !tell john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/NKWGj9s.jpg
06:29 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, yeah
06:29 sfan5 !deop sfan5
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08:04 RagnarLaud hia
08:04 RagnarLaud hai
08:04 RagnarLaud bai!
08:04 RagnarLaud !tell
08:04 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: Need a nickname...
08:06 RagnarLaud !tell hoodedice Hey, when you get this, then please post an update on the Pixel Bird thread. I have the external levels update at http://gnadev.tk/downloads/PixelBird_0.3.jar
08:06 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: I'll pass that on when hoodedice is around
08:06 RagnarLaud thanks MinetestBot
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08:51 RagnarLaud hai
08:51 RagnarLaud !tell RagnarLaud hi
08:51 MinetestBot You can tell that to yourself
08:51 RagnarLaud !tell MinetestBot hi
08:51 MinetestBot I'm not dumb, you know?
08:51 RagnarLaud :D
08:56 RagnarLaud !tell asdfghj hellp
08:56 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: I'll pass that on when asdfghj is around
08:57 asdfghj sfan5, why doesnt MTBot work?
08:57 RagnarLaud c/clear
09:02 RagnarLaud !g zip bomb
09:02 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_bomb
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09:22 RagnarLaud PixelBird update!
09:23 RagnarLaud !g pixelbird
09:23 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: https://www.facebook.com/pixelbird
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11:29 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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12:45 sfan5 !tell RagnarLaud it only detects join and messages
12:45 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when RagnarLaud is around
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13:08 sfan5 !tell john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/NCpnwbx.jpg
13:08 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever
13:08 sfan5 meow
13:08 sfan5 hi everyone BTW
13:10 reactor hell.o
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13:23 hoodedice Hey
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14:05 hoodedice MinetestBot!
14:05 MinetestBot hoodedice!
14:05 hoodedice okay.
14:06 hoodedice sfan5: MinetestBot failed to pass a message to me
14:06 sfan5 hm
14:07 hoodedice Anyway
14:10 Exio4 Anybody care to join two video files with libav?
14:10 Exio4 haha
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14:12 hoodedice !tell RagnarLaud - We have been told that Pixel Bird is not your original work. You took the code and changed the overlying textures. At Minetest, we don't value liers and developers that copy code and that too without citation. On top of that you made another account just to circumvent a ban.
14:12 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when RagnarLaud is around
14:15 reactor Exio4: if you figure out how, let me know.
14:17 PenguinDad wtf is pixel bird?
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14:18 Exio4 reactor: ffmpeg > libav
14:18 Exio4 :D
14:18 reactor ffmpeg should do the job yes.
14:19 reactor ...is it possible to cut videos not on keyframes?
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14:21 sfan5 reactor: sure
14:22 reactor But how?
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14:26 reactor ffmpeg -ss $STARTPOS -i "$FILE" -t $LENGTH -codec copy $OUT
14:26 reactor ^it only cuts on keyframes.
14:28 sfan5 reactor: if you want to cut at key-frames you need to re-encode
14:28 sfan5 try options like -vcodec libx264 -crf 22 -acodec copy
14:28 sfan5 s/try options like/try these options:/
14:30 Exio4 I understand (and have seen) that libav/avconv does not support as many
14:30 Exio4 options as ffmpeg does and has many more bugs.
14:31 reactor Speaking of reencoding.
14:31 reactor Why does it change resolution?
14:31 reactor Is it possible to prevent it from mangling the video that way?
14:34 sfan5 reactor: it changes resolution?
14:34 sfan5 ffmpeg would not do that
14:35 reactor ...or wait a sec, was it the GUI-based editor I used last time I had to edit something...
14:35 reactor It probably passed some shit args to ffmpeg.
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15:40 Krock HI
15:41 Krock [/caps off]
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15:44 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: 02-27 14:12 UTC <hoodedice> - We have been told that Pixel Bird is not your original work. You took the code and changed the overlying textures. At Minetest, we don't value liers and developers that copy code and that too without citation. On top of that you made another account just to circumvent a ban.
15:45 RagnarLaud so it does work :D
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15:46 RagnarLaud us`0gb, do you know what hoodedice was talking about?
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15:49 us`0gb RagnarLaud: hoodedice thinks you are not the one who coded Pixel Birds and that you only took credit for it. Also, hoodedice thinks you were banned under a different name.
15:50 RagnarLaud 1. I did make the game using a tutorial, but the one there has no resembelance to Pixel Bird
15:50 RagnarLaud 2. i just made a new account called Temp for Temporary because i wanted to upload a new version of PixelBird
15:52 RagnarLaud and im currently working on a patch for alpha 3
15:52 us`0gb hoodedice isn't on right now, so he/she can't read your defenses.
15:53 Jordach RUN.
15:53 RagnarLaud hi Jordach
15:53 RagnarLaud what now?
15:55 RagnarLaud Jordach, what's up?
15:56 RagnarLaud !tell hoodedice dood, i was the original creater of the game, all i did was watch a few tutorials on java game developing by Ryan van Zeben. But the game there has no resemblance to PixelBird
15:56 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: I'll pass that on when hoodedice is around
15:56 reactor creater
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16:02 RagnarLaud what?
16:04 RagnarLaud ron, please give me +1 carma, i wanted to ++ myself and then i de-carmad myself :D
16:04 RagnarLaud oops :d
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16:05 RagnarLaud wrong channel :D
16:05 Jordach fucking n00b
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16:05 MinetestBot hoodedice: 02-27 15:56 UTC <RagnarLaud> dood, i was the original creater of the game, all i did was watch a few tutorials on java game developing by Ryan van Zeben. But the game there has no resemblance to PixelBird
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16:05 RagnarLaud LOL :D
16:05 hoodedice Thank you MinetestBot
16:06 hoodedice But I saw the logs, so yeah, useless.
16:06 RagnarLaud hoodedice, i AM the creator of PixelBird
16:06 RagnarLaud what?
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16:13 sfan5 wat
16:13 sfan5 just wat
16:13 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=131314#p131314
16:13 sfan5 !title
16:13 MinetestBot sfan5: Have you ever noticed the swastika in jungle wood? (Page 1) — General Discussion — Minetest Foru[...]
16:14 hoodedice wat indeed.
16:14 hoodedice kahrl^^
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16:15 RagnarLaud that's just mean
16:15 hoodedice RagnarLaud: edited
16:16 hoodedice Though it certainly was not offensive
16:16 RagnarLaud dood, that's just cruel :D
16:17 RagnarLaud btw, new post :D
16:17 RagnarLaud with a pun :D a Pun in PunBB :D
16:17 hoodedice sfan5: Ragnar got banned on the forums so he made an alt
16:17 sfan5 hoodedice: ik
16:17 sfan5 but I'm not sure if alt accs are forbidden
16:17 hoodedice Wow - lapse in the consttution I see
16:17 hoodedice It must be amended immediately!
16:18 hoodedice *constitution
16:18 RagnarLaud 1. you can ban Temp as soon as i get unbanned, im just using that to update PixelBird
16:18 RagnarLaud 2. You can ban it any time, if i break any rules :P
16:18 hoodedice Ragnar - That just undermines the purpose of a ban
16:18 hoodedice A ban is like a time out.
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16:19 RagnarLaud i know, but i was very excited because of that update
16:19 RagnarLaud all of you have been waiting for it for a long time
16:19 hoodedice !tell Jordach: Are alternate accounts allowed?
16:19 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when Jordach: is around
16:19 RagnarLaud (two days)
16:19 Jordach OI
16:19 hoodedice Hi Jordy!
16:19 RagnarLaud hi Michael Jordach :'D
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16:20 Jordach don't piss me off right now
16:20 RagnarLaud wasnt trying to
16:20 RagnarLaud O.O
16:20 Jordach i'm nearly there to inventing a a driver less 90 arm bend
16:20 RagnarLaud Good for you! :D
16:21 hoodedice !kick RagnarLaud *unauthorized use of sarcasm*
16:21 RagnarLaud who needed to authorize it?
16:21 hoodedice PilzAdam himself
16:22 RagnarLaud so the name PilzAdam (including parts of it) are copyrighted by him?
16:22 RagnarLaud nice :D
16:22 Jordach well fuck me
16:22 RagnarLaud !tell sfan5 hey, could you please make the ban last until the 2nd of March, because that's my 15th birthday then :)
16:22 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: yeah, sure, whatever
16:22 sfan5 no
16:22 MinetestBot sfan5: 02-27 16:22 UTC <RagnarLaud> hey, could you please make the ban last until the 2nd of March, because that's my 15th birthday then :)
16:22 Jordach ^ clearly not giving a fuck
16:22 RagnarLaud what happened, Jordach?
16:22 reactor Sarcasm is a binary blob.
16:23 hoodedice dat^
16:24 Exio4 we are not nazis
16:24 RagnarLaud hoodedice, it's not in the rules :P
16:24 Exio4 or, are we?
16:24 RagnarLaud that's what i told him
16:24 RagnarLaud no, im a white black guy
16:25 RagnarLaud 'cause youre so white and nerdy
16:25 Exio4 racist
16:25 hoodedice We are
16:25 hoodedice We hate Microsoft
16:25 hoodedice And Minecraft
16:25 RagnarLaud NOT minecraft
16:25 RagnarLaud think about it - No minecraft => No minetest
16:25 hoodedice In fact, we believe that anything that starts with M and has a c
16:25 hoodedice Should be subject to 'the final solution'
16:26 kahrl "music"?
16:26 RagnarLaud :D
16:26 hoodedice That too
16:26 RagnarLaud Michael Jackson?
16:26 RagnarLaud Michael Jordan?
16:26 hoodedice He's already passed the solution
16:26 reactor Machiavelli.
16:26 hoodedice !g Machiavelli
16:26 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli
16:26 RagnarLaud !tell hoodedice Vendetta, vendetta, vendetta, vendetta
16:26 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: yeah, sure, whatever
16:27 hoodedice Prolly dead
16:27 MinetestBot hoodedice: 02-27 16:26 UTC <RagnarLaud> Vendetta, vendetta, vendetta, vendetta
16:27 hoodedice RagnarLaud: Don't abuse the bot.
16:27 RagnarLaud ok
16:27 reactor !tell MinetestBot !tell MinetestBot Test.
16:27 MinetestBot I'm not dumb, you know?
16:27 hoodedice Don't use tell when you know that the person is present
16:27 RagnarLaud i just wanted MTBot to announce revenge on you
16:27 RagnarLaud :D
16:27 hoodedice sfan5: kick RagnarLaud *bot abuse*
16:27 RagnarLaud please no
16:27 RagnarLaud <:'(
16:27 hoodedice Rules are Rules. Period.
16:28 sfan5 hoodedice: maybe
16:28 reactor What is RagnarLaud tryiong to achieve?
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16:28 sfan5 !rand 0 1
16:28 MinetestBot 0
16:28 reactor s/io/i/
16:28 sfan5 0 -> no
16:28 hoodedice You got lucky RagnarLaud
16:28 sfan5 lol
16:28 Jordach stfu
16:28 sfan5 Jordach: Y U NO USE !stfu ?
16:28 Jordach because a warning never works
16:28 hoodedice !stfu
16:28 MinetestBot someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted.
16:29 hoodedice lol
16:29 Exio4 !gtfo
16:29 Exio4 :(
16:29 PenguinDad !rtfm
16:29 MinetestBot someone thinks you should read the manual. The wiki for dev related questions is at http://dev.minetest.net , the regular wiki is at http://wiki.minetest.net.
16:30 sfan5 !doge
16:30 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT
16:31 hoodedice !rickroll
16:31 hoodedice aw
16:31 hoodedice !doge
16:31 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT
16:31 hoodedice same thing? Bo-ring
16:31 hoodedice later peeps.
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16:32 Exio4 we need a dogetip bot
16:33 sfan5 Exio4: can you read my thoughts?
16:34 Exio4 yes
16:34 Exio4 now you're thinking about rainbows and doges
16:34 sfan5 no rainbows
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16:42 Exio4 sfan5, make fido get here
16:42 sfan5 fido?
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16:43 Exio4 ... a dogetip bot that is used a hell lot?
16:43 sfan5 nah
16:43 MegafOdroidU3 Folks, I need a bunch of people on my server to strees it
16:43 MegafOdroidU3 Its an ARM server
16:43 MegafOdroidU3 2GB of Ram
16:43 MegafOdroidU3 1.7 GHz quad core
16:43 MegafOdroidU3 !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
16:43 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (1605ms)
16:44 MegafOdroidU3 so, should I crate or topic or somthing for that?
16:44 reactor MinetestBot: minetest --randominput
16:44 MegafOdroidU3 create*
16:44 sfan5 MegafOdroidU3: might be a good idea
16:45 sfan5 satisfied with your odroid u3?
16:45 sfan5 !doge
16:45 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT
16:45 sfan5 !doge
16:45 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT
16:45 sfan5 !doge
16:45 MinetestBot http://is.gd/zgopNT
16:45 sfan5 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
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16:45 sfan5 that is only three fucking times, ShadowBot
16:45 sfan5 <sfan5> !doge
16:45 sfan5 <MinetestBot> DOGE is at 0.00000199 BTC
16:45 sfan5 this is what it is supposed to do
16:46 sfan5 (with 50 percent chanche)
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16:49 MegafOdroidU3 sfan5: Yes I am
16:49 MegafOdroidU3 it's really fast and responsive
16:50 MegafOdroidU3 Just a pain to get a proper Debian running on it
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16:50 MegafOdroidU3 There's no official Debian for Odroids or any specific distro for it
16:50 MegafOdroidU3 as we do have for Raspberry Pi
16:51 MegafOdroidU3 sfan5: if I can get proper OpenGL on X11 on my odroid I might pretty well stop using my main desktop
16:52 MegafOdroidU3 Then I would just use it as a compiling server
16:57 sfan5 MegafOdroidU3: lubuntu (or was it xubuntu) should be fine too
16:57 Exio4 MegafOdroidU3: install debian
16:58 Exio4 just that
16:58 Exio4 debian has official support for ARM remember
16:58 MegafOdroidU3 Exio4: not for odroid
16:59 MegafOdroidU3 it perhaps would work headless
16:59 Exio4 what?
16:59 reactor biebian.
16:59 MegafOdroidU3 Exio4: its not as simples as a x86 pc
16:59 MegafOdroidU3 simple*
16:59 Exio4 i know it is arm
17:00 MegafOdroidU3 Yep, CPU is ARM, but it have to support all the other parts
17:00 Exio4 http://odroid.us/mediawiki/index.php?title=Debian_Wheezy_Instructions
17:00 MegafOdroidU3 sfan5: I'm not using Ubuntu, I rather use Windows Vista running on Microsoft Virtual PC on Windows ME ona Pentium II
17:01 MegafOdroidU3 Exio4: I know all the links you can find
17:01 MegafOdroidU3 that tutorial doesnt work
17:01 Exio4 what hapens?
17:01 Exio4 happens
17:01 MegafOdroidU3 its incomplete and outdated
17:02 MegafOdroidU3 I did the Debian chroot already, Im getting a kernel now
17:02 Exio4 so, try to complete it by logic
17:02 MegafOdroidU3 perhaps I will just get a compiled kernel from someone else
17:02 MegafOdroidU3 anyway, I have Debian Wheezy running on my Odroid already
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17:23 PilzAdam topic of the day: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=131326#p131326
17:23 PilzAdam !title
17:23 MinetestBot PilzAdam: If Minetest Players of all when entering the Server one? (Page 1) — General Discussion — Minetes[...]
17:25 Krock I want the bug report of the year 2014 back :(
17:25 Krock Well, that topic is good, too
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17:27 Exio4 PilzAdam: what the ...
17:27 Exio4 fuck is that
17:30 * Jordach has developed an easier version of sharp bends
17:31 PilzAdam Jordach, If Blender users of all when entering the joint one?
17:32 Jordach PilzAdam, i found a way to do it WHICH WORKS IN MINETEST.
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17:32 Jordach and my upgraded hat layer will contain perfect cubes :)
17:32 MegafOdroidU3 PilzAdam: I really don't understand what he is saying
17:36 Jordach Taoki, your model's bones suck
17:37 Jordach you parented the fucking legs to the upper body, causing a bug i found
17:38 Jordach there, removed the legs sliding backwards when standing still
17:40 Jordach even better
17:47 Jordach wtf did Taoki DO?
17:47 Jordach you didn't keyframe END EVENTS, which should have been done, like YONKS AGO?
17:48 Jordach so one frame Sam's legs are sitting, yet the body is clearly fucking walking
17:50 Jordach and while i'm here, i'll support the MINECRAFT CAPE FORMAT as a secondary material
17:50 Jordach so you can simply define the texture as; texture = {"character.png", "cape.png"},
17:51 Jordach i'll have to include a nocape.png to stop it using the parent texture
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17:56 Jordach hey rubenwardy
17:56 rubenwardy Hi all :P
17:57 PenguinDad !uudecode 12&5L;&\\@<G5B96YW87)D>2$
17:57 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Failed to handle data
17:57 Jordach celeron55_, dafuq you doing in here
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17:59 celeron55_ Jordach: blatantly observing you
17:59 Jordach hah
17:59 Exio4 he is stalking us
18:00 celeron55 i also was in your room last week but you didn't notice!
18:00 Jordach celeron55, i never take any looks at the side bar
18:01 sfan5 !uuencode test
18:01 MinetestBot $=&5S=   \n
18:01 sfan5 !uudecode $=&5S=
18:01 MinetestBot test
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18:01 sfan5 hm
18:01 sfan5 PenguinDad: what are you trying to do?
18:03 PenguinDad !b16d 48656C6C6F20727562656E776172647921
18:03 MinetestBot Hello rubenwardy!
18:03 PenguinDad ^ this sfan5
18:03 sfan5 !uuencode Hello rubenwardy!
18:03 MinetestBot 12&5L;&\\@<G5B96YW87)D>2$ \n
18:04 Jordach !uuencode !b16d 48656C6C6F20727562656E776172647921
18:04 MinetestBot H(6(Q-F0@-#@V-39#-D,V1C(P-S(W-38R-C4V13<W-C$W,C8T-SDR,0  \n
18:04 sfan5 !uudecode 12&5L;&\\@<G5B96YW87)D>2$
18:04 MinetestBot sfan5: Failed to handle data
18:04 sfan5 ...
18:04 sfan5 ???
18:04 Jordach !!decode H(6(Q-F0@-#@V-39#-D,V1C(P-S(W-38R-C4V13<W-C$W,C8T-SDR,0  \n
18:04 Jordach !decode H(6(Q-F0@-#@V-39#-D,V1C(P-S(W-38R-C4V13<W-C$W,C8T-SDR,0 \n
18:04 sfan5 I think I may just uu(en|de)code because it is not usefil in any way
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18:05 rubenwardy celeron55 is spying on his MT slaves
18:05 Jordach i already free'd myself a while back
18:06 sfan5 error: no known conversion from Jordach to void* for call to free(void*)
18:06 Jordach holy shit
18:07 Jordach that shouldn't happen :)
18:09 rubenwardy if ($Jordach->isFree()): goto 3; endif
18:09 rubenwardy Php is fun!
18:09 Exio4 sfan5, what?
18:09 Jordach you mean an infinite fractal of bad design, right?
18:09 Exio4 "conversion"?
18:09 rubenwardy :P
18:10 Exio4 sfan5, casting is "type-unsafe", if you want to free anything, you can
18:10 sfan5 the (fictional) compiler I use does it differently by default
18:13 Exio4 so you don't follow the standard
18:13 Taoki Jordach: I rigged the model the way I found appropriate to rig it
18:13 Jordach Taoki, well, i'm making it better to work with :)
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18:14 Taoki The leg sliding problem was caused by keyframe interpolation. The model properly uses only a few keyframes
18:14 Jordach then you're doing it wrong :P
18:14 Jordach whole character keyframes are meant for that purpose
18:14 Taoki I believe I did it pretty right
18:15 Jordach Taoki, when i repaired the bones, most of your keyframes just went mad
18:16 Taoki What do you mean went mad? Let alone that I don't see what bones there were to repair
18:17 Jordach Taoki, having the arms angled meant they didn't rotate exactly on the x-axis, just like the MC version
18:17 Taoki Angled how?
18:17 Jordach they were more like /|\ than |||
18:18 Taoki I don't believe I did them like that in the rest position
18:19 Taoki That also doesn't explain the keyframes "going mad". They stay in place unless someone moves them. If the in-between results are bad, that's the keyframe interpolation
18:19 Taoki Which I already suggested previously: Select all keys, press v, select "vector" interpolation\
18:20 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/rkGBYHb.png
18:20 Jordach you did
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18:22 Jordach (ignore the skin, was proving VE wrong as usual)
18:23 Taoki Ah. I didn't remember specifically, but if that's how they are in the current file on GIT than I did
18:23 Taoki Just select the ends of the bones and space them out evenly
18:23 sfan5 !hash ?
18:23 MinetestBot sfan5: Supported hash functions: sha1, sha224, sha384, sha256, sha512, md5
18:24 sfan5 !hash sha224 Minetest
18:24 MinetestBot 93da2bf94593f19fbbb8e279633399f9ade513032971140ff3b8ca36
18:24 sfan5 \o/
18:24 Taoki That shouldn't change current animations either
18:24 rubenwardy What is the point of supporting that, sfan5?
18:24 sfan5 rubenwardy: dunno
18:24 rubenwardy uh
18:24 sfan5 but sha1 being useful is more likely than uudecode
18:25 Jordach Taoki, i've fixed all of that already
18:25 Taoki ok
18:25 sfan5 rubenwardy: why did you take so long to answer to my PM?
18:26 Taoki I'm not sure what you meant by "keyframe end events" either. I selected all bones, and inserted rotation at each step
18:26 rubenwardy I thought I did, but it didn't send
18:26 Taoki Maybe the X format uses them in a wrong way
18:26 rubenwardy That was before I got good internet
18:28 Jordach Taoki, your bone structure was mainly the cause
18:28 Taoki The bone structure was very simple
18:28 Jordach Taoki, the legs followed the main body when rotated
18:29 Taoki That's normal. The main body is the center bone
18:29 Jordach i added a positional bone to allow easier sneaking
18:29 Taoki ok
18:29 Jordach the only main difference is that the legs and arms aren't as dumb
18:29 * Jordach is also using Blender 2.62
18:30 Taoki 2.69 is latest stable version. Eager for 2.7
18:30 Jordach what's 2.7 got?
18:30 Jordach (i didn't check release notes)
18:31 Taoki Big performance improvements in Cycles, as well as volume support in Cycles. As the most important things... there are several other tweaks too
18:32 khonkhortisan cycles also does sphere cameras
18:32 Taoki Ah, cool
18:34 ShadowNinja There are half a dozen people in this channel guilty of bot abuse...
18:35 reactor No, there are a dozen bots that are guilty of being exploitable.
18:35 Taoki "Sign this petition. Let's act and end bot abuse on IRC!"
18:35 Taoki "Every day, 100 bots are abused by users. Next one could be your own!"
18:36 Calinou s/bots/ponies
18:36 ShadowNinja sfan5: I consider three times flooding.  Especially since it was a bot command.
18:36 * sfan5 puts Derpy on Calinou's head
18:36 Calinou more than 4 lines is flooding
18:37 ShadowNinja 3*2=6 > 4
18:39 ShadowNinja Twice is OK, as it's often accidental.  But there's not a good reason for saying the same thing three times.
18:40 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/listen/a7ojhv4552l2rzx/0000-0220.ogg Taoki
18:40 Jordach rendered out the animations
18:41 Jordach (the hat layer is a material trick i found :P)
18:41 Taoki Jordach: Yes. In Blender, animations aren't separated, they're all in order on the time line
18:42 Taoki That's because the X exporter, at least back then, needed them that way. In order for them to work in Irrlicht
18:42 Jordach Taoki, well, i don't like that idea :)
18:42 Taoki The Lua file defines each animation by frame randes
18:42 Jordach Taoki, wrong, i did it like that while the exporter was still shit
18:42 Taoki Jordach: Honestly? I don't either. But unless Irrlicht offers a better way, it's the way it works
18:42 Taoki I hated having to do them that way
18:42 Taoki Each animation should be a separate armature action
18:43 Taoki I THINK the X exporter now has an option to pile up all armature actions in aplhapetical order. You still need to guess the frame ranges for the player.lua file though
18:44 Jordach nah
18:44 Jordach then you'd have to redo the player.lua
18:44 Taoki Jordach: If you can, I indeed suggest moving each animation to its own armature action. That is the right way. But since only one action can be active at once, make sure to press the F button on them
18:44 Taoki It wouldn't be that hard
18:45 Taoki Just a few lines to change
18:45 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/download/pj0u1v89m3v6ijw/character.blend <- updated model
18:46 Taoki Looks good to me yes
18:46 sfan5 Jordach: use a different file hoster, mediafire's audio does not fucking work
18:48 sfan5 !btc
18:48 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 587.9800 $
18:48 sfan5 ^ more useful stuff
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18:52 ShadowNinja sfan5: Um, 587.98$?
18:52 sfan5 yes
18:52 twoelk !$
18:53 twoelk !usd
18:54 twoelk ok any other conversions possibleß
18:54 twoelk -ß+?
18:54 sfan5 !btc ?
18:54 MinetestBot sfan5: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD
18:55 sfan5 ^ twoelk
18:55 twoelk !USD
18:55 sfan5 wat
18:55 sfan5 use !btc <currency>
18:56 twoelk ah
18:56 twoelk !btc EUR
18:56 MinetestBot 1 BTC = 428.3205 €
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18:57 LforLeeeeeeeX hello
18:57 twoelk !btc 20EUR
18:57 MinetestBot twoelk: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: USD, AUD, CHF, RUB, SEK, KRW, THB, CNY, JPY, DKK, BRL, GBP, NZD, PLN, EUR, CLP, SGD, HKD, CAD
18:57 twoelk :-(
18:57 LforLeeeeeeeX what wrong?
18:57 sfan5 it does plain 1 btc stuff
18:57 LforLeeeeeeeX Jordach
18:57 sfan5 !c 428.3205 / 20.0
18:57 MinetestBot 21.416024999999998
18:58 sfan5 ...
18:58 sfan5 nope that is not how you calculate it
18:58 twoelk can commands be combined?
18:58 sfan5 no
18:58 sfan5 well..
18:58 sfan5 more like not
18:58 sfan5 yet
18:59 LforLeeeeeeeX sfan5 sorry to ask but can u give me the link to public server chat
18:59 sfan5 public server chat?
18:59 sfan5 what is that?
18:59 LforLeeeeeeeX yes
18:59 twoelk depends on what server
19:00 LforLeeeeeeeX vanessaes mostly vanilla minetest game
19:00 twoelk I think I have seen you on the inchra server network
19:00 twoelk oops
19:00 LforLeeeeeeeX what?
19:01 twoelk try isis.inchra.net
19:01 LforLeeeeeeeX the Kiwiirc is what i need
19:01 twoelk that is what VanessaE's servers use
19:01 LforLeeeeeeeX ok
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19:02 twoelk https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.inchra.net:+6697/#minetest
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19:02 twoelk not sure about that though
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19:05 reactor No greetings for people eh?
19:06 twoelk hm something like nUSD=xEUR might be usefull: (!btc USD)*n/(!btc EUR) maybe?
19:08 twoelk oh hi ponies and reactors
19:08 reactor I am not a reactor, either.
19:09 twoelk you do react
19:10 reactor k.
19:10 reactor Oh well, yфu highlighted me, that's whц.
19:10 RBMK That should fix it.
19:11 twoelk ?
19:17 twoelk hard starboard, squid-squad from backboard at 9
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19:19 twoelk ever seen asquid squad squatting onthe square?
19:21 twoelk rather nope.avi I bet
19:22 * sfan5 taps john_minetest
19:23 sfan5 oh god no:
19:23 sfan5 !tw https://twitter.com/Raspberry_Pi/status/439117635083448321
19:23 MinetestBot Free online course from @Oracle: develop Java apps using a Raspberry Pi. Starts March 31st - see https://blogs.oracle.com/java/entry/develop_java_applications_using_a for details. (@Raspberry_Pi)
19:24 sfan5 john_minetest: http://img.ed4.net/gsi_clubmonaco/2014/EMILYPRACTICE/images/kitten.jpg
19:24 sfan5 http://i.imgur.com/foNWNCA.jpg
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19:27 TheSwagBeast Hey.
19:27 TheSwagBeast Can I have some help installing a texture pack?
19:28 RBMK untar it in textures/
19:28 EvergreenTree What about it do you need help with?
19:28 EvergreenTree Installing it in general?
19:28 TheSwagBeast I'm running Ubuntu 13.10.
19:28 TheSwagBeast And I've unzipped it.
19:28 EvergreenTree Okay
19:28 TheSwagBeast And I'm trying to get it into the Textures folder.
19:28 TheSwagBeast But it says I don't have the required permissions or w/e.
19:29 TheSwagBeast I am a root user though.
19:29 EvergreenTree where are you trying to put it?
19:29 EvergreenTree Give me the file path
19:29 RBMK TheSwagBeast: check permissions.
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19:29 EvergreenTree If it's something like /usr/share/games/minetest/textures, I would suggest not putting it there
19:29 RBMK if the dir is cmod 000, no wonder.
19:29 TheSwagBeast Yeah that's the path.
19:29 EvergreenTree put it in /home/username/.minetest/textures
19:30 EvergreenTree not /usr/share/games/minetest/textures
19:30 EvergreenTree see if that helps
19:30 TheSwagBeast There is no .mintest in my area though?
19:30 EvergreenTree Also, mods go in /home/username/.minetest/mods
19:30 EvergreenTree Strange
19:30 RBMK so copy it all over to ~/.minetest
19:31 EvergreenTree RBMK: He just said he doesn
19:31 RBMK /usr/share/games/minetest is system-wide
19:31 EvergreenTree Are you using a user interface file manager?
19:31 EvergreenTree It's most likely nautilus
19:31 EvergreenTree press ctrl+h to see hidden folders
19:32 TheSwagBeast Ah okay.
19:32 EvergreenTree or ctrl+l to go to a specific path
19:32 TheSwagBeast Got it thank you.
19:32 EvergreenTree No problem
19:32 RBMK Oh, there we go. Badly written file managers confusing people.
19:32 EvergreenTree :-)
19:32 EvergreenTree lol
19:32 TheSwagBeast I only have cache/clients/worlds.
19:32 EvergreenTree try creating the textures folder
19:33 RBMK mkdit textures
19:33 RBMK s/dit/dir/
19:33 EvergreenTree *mkdir
19:33 RBMK mkdirt, even
19:33 EvergreenTree lol
19:33 RBMK ...rmdirt should be more useful, though.
19:33 RBMK Because dirt accumulates on its own.
19:33 EvergreenTree just right click in the file manager and press new folder
19:33 EvergreenTree Some people aren't accustomed to the terminal
19:34 EvergreenTree Altough I do suggest you get used to it since you are using linux
19:34 TheSwagBeast I'm installing MineToon, and it comes in 3 folders.
19:34 TheSwagBeast I just put the folders in the Textures folder I made, and it doesn't appear in the mintest client.
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19:36 EvergreenTree MineToon is outdated
19:36 EvergreenTree what version of minetest are you using?
19:36 EvergreenTree Did you install it via the software center?
19:37 TheSwagBeast Yes, but via the Updated Versions on launchpad.
19:38 EvergreenTree Do you know what version?
19:38 EvergreenTree it should be something like 0.4.5 or 0.3.2
19:39 TheSwagBeast 0.4.9
19:39 EvergreenTree hm
19:39 EvergreenTree that is the latest version
19:39 RBMK 0.3.2!
19:39 EvergreenTree minetoon comes in three folders?
19:39 TheSwagBeast Yup.
19:39 RBMK Are you studying for a degree in archaeology?
19:39 EvergreenTree Well, minetoon is out of date
19:39 EvergreenTree RBMK: plol
19:39 TheSwagBeast default, bucket and legacy
19:39 TheSwagBeast So is there no way of installing it?
19:40 EvergreenTree hm
19:40 EvergreenTree I'm not sure
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19:40 EvergreenTree it wouldn't be a complete texture pack even if you installed it
19:40 TheSwagBeast Oh.
19:40 TheSwagBeast Meh, I'll find another one.
19:40 TheSwagBeast Thanks for the help.
19:40 EvergreenTree No problem
19:41 EvergreenTree use that information when installing other texture packs
19:41 RBMK Anyspacetime.
19:41 EvergreenTree also, mods go in .minetest/mods
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19:45 twoelk hm, running MineToon 0.4 with a Minetest 0.4.9 version from 7th Jan 2014 works for me on Windows
19:46 twoelk probably download date not build
19:47 Jordach Minetoon itself is outdated
19:47 Jordach it uses the old style texture pack system, while the modern one is completely incompatible
19:47 twoelk may be so but should work anyways, which it does on my machine
19:48 twoelk oh, so maybe I changed it? Couldbe ;-) can't remember
19:49 * twoelk even has PencilTextures installed
19:51 EvergreenTree On a system wide installed minetest, where do I install games?   I have always built minetest from source and never bothered doing a system wide install
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19:52 twoelk where mods reside?
19:52 twoelk or better probably parallel to /mods
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19:53 EvergreenTree o/ hoodedice
19:53 hoodedice \o
19:54 hoodedice I asked around about lua in my college library
19:54 Jordach and found fuck all?
19:55 hoodedice And found an online copy of Beginning Lua Programming by K Jung and A Brown
19:55 hoodedice I feel awesome
19:55 hoodedice Jordach: you need a chill pill
19:55 Jordach nah
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19:56 hoodedice Chapter 19 is the best chapter
19:56 hoodedice "How to fit into the lua community"
19:57 proller eat half of brain?
19:57 codehero start counting at one
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19:58 * Jordach just googles the epub torrent version for reading on the go
19:59 Jordach i often pay for shit, when it's usually good enough and they have an online store
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20:00 Jordach btw, i resemble Sam II, http://i.imgur.com/wigWYDf.jpg
20:00 hoodedice Jordach: no.
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20:01 hoodedice Leoneof: Make up your mind
20:01 Jordach hoodedice, the original inspiration was actually my long ass curly hair at the time
20:01 Jordach that's why it uses the hat layer
20:01 hoodedice Sam doesn't have a nose
20:01 hoodedice *ba dum tss*
20:01 Jordach hoodedice, hah
20:02 Jordach turns out i can directly upload to imgur from my tablet
20:02 Jordach saves ~8 mins of effort for doing this: take picture -> google drive them -> download on pc -> upload to imgur
20:03 hoodedice hoodedice: Take photo -> Automatically updated to google+ -> download -> link to imgur
20:03 hoodedice hoodedice: Take photo on laptop -> Upload to imgur
20:03 Jordach hoodedice, fucking google+
20:04 hoodedice What is the "print" command in the minetest lua API
20:04 hoodedice Jordach:
20:04 hoodedice !stfu
20:04 MinetestBot someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted.
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20:05 hoodedice Well, you can't get muted though
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20:05 * hoodedice leaves
20:06 Leoneof joined #minetest
20:06 RagnarLaud hoodedice
20:06 * hoodedice is not here
20:07 Jordach bullshit
20:07 Jordach /kick hoodedice
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20:08 hoodedice lol
20:09 Leoneof joined #minetest
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20:10 hoodedice !seen Niften
20:10 MinetestBot hoodedice: niften was last seen at 2014-02-27 04:25:27 UTC on #minetest
20:12 RagnarLaud !seen prestotron
20:12 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: Sorry, I haven't seen prestotron around.
20:13 RagnarLaud !seen Sakis25
20:13 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: sakis25 was last seen at 2014-02-27 04:06:59 UTC on #minetest
20:13 RagnarLaud !seen RagnarLaud
20:13 MinetestBot RagnarLaud: ragnarlaud was last seen at 2014-02-27 09:23:34 UTC on #minetest
20:14 EvergreenTree Don't abuse the bot
20:14 EvergreenTree do /query MinetestBot !command
20:14 pitriss omg that kid is spaming again:/
20:15 RagnarLaud no, i was just trying to get the current time in UTC
20:15 RBMK RagnarLaud: pff.
20:15 RBMK man 1 date
20:16 EvergreenTree RagnarLaud: just look online or something
20:16 EvergreenTree that's not what MinetestBot is for
20:16 RagnarLaud i know now
20:16 EvergreenTree RagnarLaud: The point is that MinetestBot is not a clock
20:16 RagnarLaud i know
20:16 EvergreenTree okay
20:17 RBMK Consult your machine's clock eh?
20:17 RBMK Pretty much everyone's system keeps synced time.
20:17 RagnarLaud mine isnt the same
20:18 RBMK john_minetest: tell me more.
20:19 RBMK RagnarLaud: I suppose you don't know your timezone, or don't know the command to print the time in UTC/
20:19 RBMK s/\//?/
20:19 RagnarLaud its Eastern Central European Time or something like that
20:20 RBMK In what kind of wold do we live, people? People don't even know their TIMEZONE!
20:20 RBMK s/old/orld/
20:20 RBMK Old.
20:20 hoodedice lol
20:21 RBMK That's something you should have learned by the time you entered elementary school!
20:21 RBMK What are you doing with computers?
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20:25 RagnarLaud WTF?!
20:25 RagnarLaud every single god damn time
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20:26 RagnarLaud ZEG!
20:26 RBMK Rather than cursing at people quitting and joining, read the "date" command's manual.
20:27 Zeg9 It says "sudo date -s 00:00" to read the clock
20:28 fireglow I can't take this any more
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20:28 hoodedice eh?
20:28 hoodedice lol
20:29 * RBMK rolls eyes.
20:30 twoelk http://flash-clocks.com/documents/world-clock.html I often use the portable version of this
20:43 MegafOdroidU3 !seen Gronx
20:43 MinetestBot MegafOdroidU3: gronx was last seen at 2013-12-27 17:26:39 UTC on #minetest
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21:09 hoodedice Is there an output command in minetest for debugging mods?
21:10 sfan5 what do you want to debug?
21:12 hoodedice Something. Just want to output a Hello World
21:12 hoodedice print doesn't do anything
21:12 hoodedice *Nothing
21:14 Jordach hoodedice, minetest.debug("string")
21:14 Jordach or minetest.debug(variable)
21:14 Jordach and so on
21:14 Jordach minetest.debug is print essentially
21:14 hoodedice So, the output goes in debug.txt?
21:15 hoodedice Thanks
21:15 Jordach and the console
21:15 Jordach (eg, ./minetest in a terminal or the one that spawns with windows)
21:17 Jordach and yes, i think mod development is better on win systems
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21:17 * twoelk raises an eyebrow
21:18 hoodedice Jordach: I'm forced to use Windows because crappy WiFi drivers
21:18 Zeg9 :)
21:19 hoodedice But Xubuntu is like, 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
21:19 hoodedice times better for mod development
21:19 hoodedice My finger had a weird spasm just now
21:19 twoelk I'm forced to use Windows because the windows CAD machine at work is so cool and I can use it after hours
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21:20 twoelk oops and I broke my Linux setup at home with last update
21:21 Jordach hey Zeg9
21:22 Zeg9 Hi Jordach
21:22 hoodedice I think I'm going to install one of the mob mods this weekend and try to play survival
21:22 * Jordach installs the debug.apk from stu
21:22 Zeg9 I tried it... the menu is bigger than my phone's screen :D
21:22 hoodedice Because the only thing I liked in MC was the survival - It was actually relevant.
21:22 Jordach Zeg9, bull
21:23 Jordach my tablet is 9'' and the resolution is no bigger than the iPhone 3GS
21:23 specing hoodedice: Dude
21:23 RBMK ...are mobs still expensive processing-wise?
21:23 Jordach YUP
21:23 specing hoodedice: Gentoo is like, 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
21:23 Zeg9 Still I could manage to connect to a server, but it crashed. I am too lazy to see how to debug this
21:23 RBMK Would running that on a timesharing system invalidate it for other work?
21:24 hoodedice RBMK: they have improved considerably
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21:24 twoelk in varying degrees
21:24 Jordach RBMK, probably
21:24 hoodedice I had like, 15 of stu's mobs roaming around, and a huge pointless mesecon circuit
21:24 twoelk bees are fine but I guess they don't count
21:25 hoodedice I didn't feel any lag
21:25 Jordach fal
21:25 Jordach fail
21:25 Jordach tablet just froze :P
21:25 hoodedice And then this guy from Europe joined (I'm in the US)
21:25 hoodedice BAM. Unplayable lag.
21:25 RBMK But how?
21:26 RBMK Lag shouldn't cause CPU load.
21:26 RBMK It should merely be lag on his side.
21:26 twoelk those intelligence services sometimes do take much of the transatlantic bandwidth
21:27 hoodedice twoelk: If I could
21:27 hoodedice I wouldv'e given you a pat on the back through the interwebz
21:27 twoelk well if more players join the server has to serve more chunks
21:28 twoelk and calculate more mobs and so on
21:28 RBMK ...are mobs only processed in chunks seen by players?
21:28 hoodedice probably yes
21:28 RBMK good
21:28 twoelk yes most despawn if not loaded
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21:29 hoodedice I've seen stu's mobs just sitting down when I go away and come back
21:29 RBMK Hmm, but that'd make them disappear.
21:29 hoodedice RBMK: If they didn't depawn, they spawned more
21:29 hoodedice There was this entity duplication bug a while back - fixed now
21:30 hoodedice in 0.4.8 I think
21:30 twoelk actually considering old issues on some servers they might not despawn enough
21:30 RBMK possible memory exhaustion?
21:30 * twoelk types too slow
21:30 hoodedice I never had memory leaks till now
21:30 RBMK Speaking of vulnerabilities.
21:31 RBMK Has anyone tested MT servers for that?
21:31 hoodedice There are a lot
21:31 hoodedice Ask peacock
21:31 hoodedice PilzAdam: Your cart code is all over the place
21:33 twoelk and it struggles with areas protection
21:33 Zeg9 What does [spoiler=a\nb][/spoiler] actually do?
21:33 Jordach Zeg9, in a sig, it makes the page completely unusuable
21:34 Zeg9 sounds fun
21:35 twoelk considering "unusuable...fun", anyone ever build a "Useless Machine" in Minetest?
21:35 hoodedice Lemme build a useless button
21:36 RBMK twoelk: connect NOT gate to itself.
21:36 twoelk the mechanical part might be tricky
21:36 twoelk RBMK: but does that look interesting?
21:37 RBMK That has interesting effects.
21:37 hoodedice NOT to NOT
21:37 hoodedice hmm
21:38 RBMK I think a sanity check should be introduced, to prevent excess processing.
21:38 hoodedice Wait, what was the NOT gate again?
21:38 Jordach fun fact: before redstone repeaters and mesecon delayers, i had to use two not gates to slow down the signal
21:38 hoodedice ah
21:38 RBMK Because it causes the gate to change its state constantly.
21:39 hoodedice Jordach: How did you then get the signal out of the loop?
21:39 Jordach hoodedice, --[not]--[not]--
21:39 Jordach don't put them in that loop
21:39 hoodedice oh
21:39 Jordach just feed a not ouput into another not gate
21:39 hoodedice Was there really a significant delay?
21:39 Jordach YES
21:39 Jordach usually .3 seconds
21:40 Jordach and 1.4 for minetest
21:40 hoodedice =)
21:40 hoodedice Is there a way to change yaw in minetest from the modding side?
21:41 Jordach i think so, not sure on that (i know FOV is)
21:41 Jordach actually, yes
21:41 Jordach player:set_yaw()
21:41 Jordach afaik
21:41 hoodedice !g player:set_yaw minetest
21:41 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://dev.minetest.net/LuaEntitySAO
21:42 hoodedice Is player also LuaEntity?
21:42 hoodedice "These are non-player moving things in the game"
21:42 hoodedice Nope,
21:43 twoelk isn't every none node/nodebox an entity?
21:43 hoodedice Found it. Thanks Jordach
21:43 hoodedice No, it's not, I guess
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21:48 twoelk hm so player is an object but if I look at other players I Thought they should be entities for me but then it says "Note that all ObjectRefs except player are actually LuaEntitySAO. "
21:48 RBMK Objectifying people.
21:48 hoodedice How do I input radians into this?
21:48 hoodedice Do I write pi
21:48 hoodedice or consider that whatever I write will be multiplied by pi
21:49 Jordach hoodedice, yaw is from 0 = north to 360
21:49 hoodedice hrm yes
21:49 hoodedice But won't 90 be degrees?
21:49 hoodedice set_look_yaw(radians)
21:50 hoodedice so (pi/2)
21:50 hoodedice I feel awkward
21:50 the_object_twoel ?
21:50 hoodedice nvm, I'll try 90
21:50 hoodedice *Insert insanity wolf*
21:51 theObjectTwoelk a wolf would be a LuaEntitySAO
21:52 hoodedice Hmm, it didn't output an error...
21:53 hoodedice CRASHED!!!
21:53 hoodedice IT WORKS!
21:53 hoodedice MY CODE FREAKING WORKS!
21:54 hoodedice Now to rewrite PilzAdam's Carts mod. From scratch
21:55 theObjectTwoelk remember to study the new character model to fit the animations better
21:55 hoodedice later
21:56 theObjectTwoelk actually the most annoying might be when client side movement prediction doesn't match what the server calculates
21:57 theObjectTwoelk somehow the server actually looses trace of the carts somewhere along the lines of that
22:04 Jordach i fucking suck at happy wheels
22:04 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/edqyzvx.png
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22:20 Jordach w00t
22:21 Jordach found a usb kb for my tablet
22:22 Jordach btw, stus client responds to keyboard and mouse when attached to android
22:25 Jordach so with a tablet, its possible to minetest using android just like a pc user
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23:32 MegafOdroidU3 Hi all
23:33 MegafOdroidU3 VanessaE: Are you there
23:33 MegafOdroidU3 ?
23:36 VanessaE no]
23:36 VanessaE :P
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