Time Nick Message 00:01 twoelk are those gridline walls related? 00:01 Peacock meh, simpler solution, set everything from the conf including mg flags :D 00:02 Peacock well 049 seems to have improved since i last tried it two weeks ago 00:03 Peacock still -32768c, if they won't fix the temperature thing they should probably get rid of it lol 00:05 Peacock there updated ice to ground content false :D 00:06 philipbenr I hate it when I jump into the midle of a conversation on the IRC 00:06 philipbenr oh well. 00:07 philipbenr All who are not here don't say "Here" :) 00:08 philipbenr Well, if anyone sees this, bye 00:08 paramat Pea, no im wrong your pastebin in correct, with v6_nomudflow 00:09 paramat (is correct) 00:10 Peacock well i resigned myself to set the default mg_flags in the conf file since i cant figure out how to add the np_biome and freq_desert settings to set_mapgen_params lol 00:11 Peacock in any case, i cant really picture myself wanting mudflow on any map 00:14 paramat yeah i actually prefer the terrain without flow, as in deserts where there is no sand flow AFAIK 00:14 paramat those lines occur because i am processing v6, instead of replacing it 00:14 Peacock in any case i dont know why the devs still waste time tinkering with mapgens, they should be adding features/functions that make it easier for modders to create them 00:15 paramat our mapgen dev is very talented, its good to also have core mapgens that are super fast 00:16 Peacock i know hmm's good with that stuff but being an engine and all, the goal should be for lua mapgens to be as fast :) 00:17 twoelk sand does travel through deserts 00:17 paramat well a complex mapgen like paragen still takes 5 seconds per chunk in lua, not sure it can get faster within lua 00:17 Peacock well the new noise helped :) 00:17 paramat ah cool twoelk 00:18 paramat highland pools on meru ... lol 00:18 twoelk the Rub el Khali is fed from the great Nefud along the Ad Dhana Sand dune path 00:18 Peacock am i drunk? 00:18 Peacock :P 00:18 Peacock most of that looks like english 00:19 twoelk ? 00:20 Peacock the names :P 00:20 Peacock they confused 00:21 paramat twoelk, the gridline walls are the mud that has flowed off the side of mapgenv6 that is being generated in a neighbouring chunk 00:21 twoelk er, the "Empty Quarter" is fed by the "great red Sands" along the ehm "walking Sands?" path 00:21 twoelk ma arab sucks 00:21 twoelk *my 00:22 Peacock my 256 node version of mapp lol http://s11.postimg.org/4v9ty2per/Screenshot_280114_07_21_23_PM.png 00:22 Peacock even with vmanip it takes ten seconds to generate, and the formspec is slow to load with so many images (256^2) 00:23 paramat np_biome and freq_desert cant be set in 'set mapgen params' it seems 00:24 Peacock figured that was mostly for flags 00:24 paramat 'mgname, seed, water_level, flags, and flagmask' 00:25 paramat twoelk, meru has no exterior depressions for water to collect, so no highland pools will form 00:25 * twoelk is dreaming of shifting sand dunes in Minetest 00:26 paramat ... oh meru can be made noisy by params, persistence = 0.67 should do it 00:27 twoelk well pools in the caves could feed streams that ........ 00:28 paramat Pea yeah im fed up seeing temp / humidity = 0 or -32k in stable MT 00:29 Peacock well i dont think they're ever gonna pull proller's weather or fix for that, so they prolly should just remove those two values 00:32 Peacock bbl 00:42 VanessaE holy crap, almost 24,000 player files between my five servers! 00:42 Enke Wohoooo! 00:43 twoelk all different players? 00:43 VanessaE jesus, it's no wonder my servers are constantly writing 3MB/sec to the disks even when they're mostly idle 00:43 VanessaE twoelk: mostly 00:44 twoelk in what time frame? 00:45 VanessaE twoelk: I'm not sure. a few weeks? 00:45 twoelk I can't really believe that number ;-) 00:45 VanessaE when I last checked a few weeks ago there were a few thousand. 00:45 VanessaE root@ks4006351:~# ls /home/minetest/.minetest/worlds/*/players|wc 00:45 VanessaE 23821 23816 204621 00:46 paramat an explosion of players using the illegal smartphone ports? 00:47 twoelk maybe the server rewrites copys instead of overwriting? 00:47 VanessaE pipe through sort+uniq and it drops to 18 thousand odd. 00:47 VanessaE paramat: yes 00:48 Enke paramat: Yep 00:48 Enke oops, didn't see Vanessa's post. 00:50 twoelk so these devices are easier accesable to kids and might have better flatrates 00:50 twoelk or the bills will start exploding soon 00:59 NekoGloop penis 01:03 Enke twoelk: I think that is exactly what has happened. 01:03 Enke Not to mention that it is probably no coincidence that Buildcraft shares its name with a very popular Minecraft mod 01:07 twoelk so now we know how to get more players 01:07 twoelk target the right device 01:08 Enke the question is: Are more players better, especially if they behave like that? 01:08 Enke I think not. 01:10 twoelk well listening to server chat on VE-mostly vanilla we have a group of teenage vampire RPG dating drama lovers 01:11 twoelk so I guess real "game" players" 01:11 Enke Annnnnnd....Give the man a prize! 01:12 Enke Precisely. This was always my problem with Minecraft. The game is fine. The community sucked. 01:13 dna__ how do i install a texture pack 01:14 twoelk well I only toured one mc server because a freind showed me his buildings - but I do have a nephew that founded his own vampire cosplay clan 01:14 Enke Place the folder into you 'textures' folder of you game directory. Then enable it via the main menu 01:14 ShadowNinja dna__: http://wiki.minetest.net/Texture_Packs 01:15 Enke twoelk: That's strange. 01:15 ShadowNinja Hmmm, that needs updating... 01:16 twoelk you get used to it 01:16 Enke Then again, I play DnD, so I can't really judge. 01:18 twoelk hehe and I still consider myself an AFOL and I do get excited by old stones I might find 01:18 VanessaE AFOL! \o/ 01:19 * VanessaE needs to build a shelf to display her two favorite sets 01:19 twoelk only two :-( 01:19 twoelk +? 01:19 Enke I would be an AFOL, but I'm not an adult. 01:20 Enke So I'm a TFOL 01:22 twoelk my other nephew is into starwars and LOTR aand Lego, thats great for me 01:22 twoelk he needs help building - so he says 01:26 * paramat is an AFOL too 01:27 us_0gb "AFOL"? 01:29 Peacock not warm out tonight 01:31 paramat Adult Fan Of L... 01:33 VanessaE LEGO 01:33 Peacock i love waffles 01:35 twoelk some of my first experiments with 3D models using cubic blocks, all hand coded, using somebody elses library of blocks though: http://www.woelknet.de/pagesold/Pages/Lego-m/malt.htm 01:37 us_0gb Legos were fun, back when I had time and space. I don't have so much of either any more. 😓 01:37 twoelk picture 3 of the renault is with povray 01:41 VanessaE oh nice 01:41 VanessaE my two favorite sets are 8070 and 8880 01:44 Peacock lol wow didn't take long for a white list mod to come out once i started complaining about bots and multis lol 01:47 Peacock behold, the modular couch set: http://s30.postimg.org/3lwmlj9y9/screenshot_3685561739.png 01:47 Peacock one step closer to building my houses of ill-repute :D 01:48 VanessaE and did you file a pull request against lrfurn? :) 01:48 twoelk ah, two technic Super Cars 01:48 Peacock wouldn't work, i tossed half the colours 01:48 VanessaE twoelk: yep 01:48 Peacock so he'd be missing textures for the new pieces in the missing colours 01:49 Peacock besides, i haven't seen grog around in *quite* a while 01:51 twoelk a "sitting landscape" as it would be called in german 01:51 paramat your postimg images arent loading for me Pea 01:52 twoelk I can see it 01:52 Peacock works for me too 01:56 paramat meh 01:57 Peacock UK firewall? 01:57 Peacock postimg hosts some family unsafe images too (they even ask you when uploading) 01:58 ShadowNinja Peacock: This looks like it might be usefull for your server: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8434 01:59 Peacock already wrote it 2 days ago :P though i was hoping to go a step further and add an ability to delete player files, theres no obvious way to do that right now 01:59 ShadowNinja It can't confirm that the person connecting is associated with the forum account used to request access though... 02:01 Peacock another step i wanted to take was to let guests on, but disable the hotbar and replace the inventory with a registration formspec, and tie that into a local mail server to automatically send out temp passwords, though i couldn't get the mail server to work properly 02:01 Peacock so registration via forums was the next best thing, they at least need a valid email to access it 02:02 ShadowNinja Do you think that would be usefull though? Rather than random passwords? (Or do you have a mod that does that and also creates the player?) 02:04 Peacock well what i had in mind was like i said, let guests on, give them a register formspec instead of an inventory, mail out temp password and set it using whatever method /setpassword works with, and delete the guest player file when they leave 02:04 Peacock while blocking all other names until they're registered 02:06 Peacock dual benefits are limiting the number of player files created (as well as cleaning up the temp ones) and limiting the many dozen different handles the same people use 02:06 twoelk wouldn't this ad load on the server with all them guests in some formspec limbo 02:07 VanessaE ShadowNinja: regarding PilzAdam's stats mod....is there any reason why it writes its log every 3 seconds? why not every 30 seconds, or perhaps every 5 minutes or so (+ on shutdown)? 02:07 VanessaE every few seconds seems wasteful 02:07 Peacock well no guests would be tourists, they can look around but they can't do anything without registering a proper handle with a valid email 02:08 VanessaE Peacock: my solution is simpler: it just tells the player to try again with a proper name. 99% of "guests" won't bother with an email anyway 02:08 VanessaE this lets more users through than your idea, and default no interact still keeps griefers at bay 02:08 Peacock you misunderstand :P im not trying to block guests who want to look around (they can't do anything else anyways), im trying to block people from creating dozens of handles that leads to 5K player files < week 02:09 VanessaE with enough moderators available, email registration becomes kinda pointless 02:09 Peacock yeah everyone wants to be a moderator, tried that doge1, things quickly turned to shit lol i need something automated 02:10 Peacock if someone wants to go by 20 different names they'll need 20 different emails 02:10 VanessaE we seem to have a good handle on it on the Inchra Network Servers :) 02:10 VanessaE ShadowNinja: EEK 02:10 twoelk plus automated answers to why can't I do anything 02:11 VanessaE twoelk: CheapieBot. 02:11 twoelk that one 02:11 twoelk aka chat spamming bot 02:11 Peacock well, if this community were more mature (can pick 1 name and stick with it, not use bots, proxies, etc.) i wouldn't need such solutions :p 02:12 Peacock i'd rather code a babysitter than do the actual babysitting :p 02:12 VanessaE Peacock: you're one to talk about picking one name ;) 02:13 Peacock yeah, after i locked myself out of the last one? 02:13 VanessaE I thought you just forgot your password? 02:13 Peacock whereas some people have different names for IRC, forums and github lol 02:13 Peacock when you forget your key you are locked out yes 02:14 VanessaE doesn't nickserv eventually expire a nick reg? 02:14 Peacock that i don't know 02:15 Peacock what i get even less is why longtime community members would sign onto my server using completely different names from the 2-3 they already have lol 02:16 Peacock (kinda obvious with timing and location info) 02:16 twoelk they dont want answer questions? 02:16 Peacock why would they have to answer questions on someone else's server? 02:17 twoelk ever seen PilzAdam on a server? 02:17 twoelk people do react to well known names 02:17 Peacock didn't know devs still played the game :P 02:18 Peacock of course the hiccup comes when someone else comes along and sets a password on a familiar name lol 02:18 Peacock (another mature fad, name squatting lol) 02:18 twoelk have seen Notch and such 02:19 Peacock i've seen Notchs, PilzAdams, Jojoas, etc. but the location info never matches lol 02:19 Dan_____ hi, does anyone know how I can enable a game in minetest? 02:19 Peacock unless PA recently took a trip to Malaysia 02:20 twoelk only the real pa travels without a head 02:20 Peacock without a head? 02:20 twoelk his avatar is headless iirc 02:21 Peacock ah well all avatars are the same on my server 02:21 Peacock though this one time i did edit the player texture to have assless chaps, my wife made me change it back :p 02:22 twoelk put game in games folder, choose game from icons at the bottom of the screen 02:23 Dan_____ ah, I got it. I needed to create a games folder. thanks 02:42 ShadowNinja Peacock: If you still have access to the email you can ask for a PW reset email in #freenode. 02:47 Peacock not much point in it now though, i registered this one and obtained a cloaking device for it 02:48 Peacock (and wrote the password down on paper and rigged xchat to auto authenticate lol) 02:49 us_0gb Good old paper. If I lose my encrypted database of passwords, I'm locked out of *everything but my own computer*. 02:49 Enke What'd I miss? 02:50 * Enke makes a mental note to copy all his passwords in a book 02:58 Peacock the ubuntu forum hack kinda drove the point home about not using the same passwords for different services lol but GL remembering them all 03:01 NakedFury hello minetestians 03:02 fwilson hello NakedFury 03:03 ShadowNinja Enke: ,,logs ;-) 03:04 ShadowNinja (Is freenode lagging again?) 03:04 ShadowNinja ~logs 03:04 ShadowBot http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest 03:04 ShadowNinja Hmmm... 03:04 Peacock !captainslog 03:04 Peacock stardate, today 03:05 twoelk logout 03:07 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEMCx6VtyYY 03:09 ShadowNinja ~title 03:09 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: title [--no-filter] 03:09 ShadowNinja !title 03:09 MinetestBot ShadowNinja: doge and perfect mirror - YouTube 03:10 Enke That title command is useful. 03:12 ShadowNinja ~title 03:12 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: Error: 'An error has occurred and has been logged. Check the logs for more informations.' is not a valid http url. 03:12 ShadowNinja Grrr... 03:15 ShadowNinja Right, $LANG='C' means python doesn't like non-ascii characters. 03:27 RavonTUS Does MT have "decay" for items left sitting around? 03:30 Peacock leaves yeah 03:32 ShadowNinja ~title 03:32 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: doge and perfect mirror - YouTube 03:33 ShadowNinja \o/ 03:33 ShadowNinja <3 !eval 03:39 Peacock cold weather around here gave me an idea for my sewer grates lol http://s30.postimg.org/hxdu1kffl/screenshot_3692270728.png 03:43 RavonTUS Stuff is coming up out of the sewer, it's that back wards? 03:50 paramat i can see it :D cool 03:50 us_0gb No ShadowBot, I suppose that isn't a valid URL. 03:50 Peacock steam :P 03:51 ShadowNinja Peacock: Be warned, particles have been known to significantly impact client's performance. (bug?) 03:52 Peacock no such problem here :/ 03:52 Peacock of course, depends how you use them 03:53 Peacock i would produce tons of particles with collision detection on 03:53 Peacock *wouldn't 03:53 ShadowNinja The bees mod had that issue. 03:53 ShadowNinja It didn't use all that many particles. 03:53 Peacock no particle-related lag here 03:54 Peacock though i havent seen how other people set up their spawners 03:55 ShadowNinja Alright. 03:55 Peacock one common mistake i notice is mods creating more of them w/o removing the old ones 03:56 us_0gb performance issues or not, the game looks nicer when you turn them off. 03:56 Peacock well thats a personal preference 03:56 Peacock some people think the game looks nicer with all-cubic nodes too 03:56 ShadowNinja Particle spawners with a exppiration time have to be removed? 03:56 Peacock oh that im not sure, i use continuous spawners for steam and chimney smoke 03:57 us_0gb THere's a lighting preference I like to turn off as well, but I forget what it's called. It looks less professional with it off, but I like it better anyway. 03:57 Peacock smooth lighting? 03:57 us_0gb Maybe. Probably. 03:57 Peacock has smooth lighting been (front?)ported from MT classic? 03:58 Peacock (for nodeboxes) 03:58 us_0gb I ... don't know the settings effect on nodeboxes lately. For the past two releases, my machine has been ... not up to par for Minetest uses. 03:59 Peacock talking about the machine you yanked the firmware out of ? 03:59 us_0gb I'm impatiently awaiting the arrival of my new machine, which should allow me to play Minetest again. 04:00 us_0gb Yes, that's the machine I mean. 04:00 Peacock a 2006 thinkpad, i can't help but wonder what kind of performance youll get 04:00 Peacock my old p4 is newer and it has a hard time 04:00 us_0gb I'm told it performs surprisingly well. 04:00 us_0gb I don't know how it will handle Minetest specifically though. 04:01 Peacock well we're talking about 2006 hardware with open source only drivers, it's a safe bet you'll have to keep most settings off 04:01 Peacock even with my dualcore and catalyst drivers, i keep most texture and shader settings off (except the first shaders to come, i like the glow lol) 04:01 us_0gb The drivers won't be an issue, as this machine is one of the few that is well-supported. The out-dated hardware may or may not pose issues though. 04:02 Peacock *to come out 04:02 us_0gb Well, the default wifi card is not supported well, but it's swapped out for one that is. 04:03 us_0gb If it doesn't work, I could always try SuperTux. 04:06 RavonTUS What does MT need to improve performance? best bang for the buck - CPU, Memory or better GPU? I 04:06 RavonTUS Running as a server. 04:07 us_0gb As a server, I'm not sure it uses the GPU at all. I'm not sure though. 04:08 ShadowNinja CPU i'd say. 04:09 ShadowNinja Dual/quad/octo/hexa-core helps. 04:09 RavonTUS chat logs over the last few days don't seem to point to hardware a being a major issue. I was a bit sad to read that 20 ppl was about the max online. 04:09 RavonTUS Not that I'll ever pull in that many ppl. 04:09 us_0gb Right, I forgot about that. Hmm. 04:10 ShadowNinja It's gotten much better actually, 8 started getting laggy before. 04:10 RavonTUS but my main players are whining about the lag, and they are only 5 & 6 years old. 04:10 RavonTUS :) 04:11 RavonTUS Luckfully they haven't figured out I'm to cheap to buy them an actual MC account. 04:12 us_0gb Depending on who you ask, Minetest is better anyway. 04:12 RavonTUS It fun, that's for sure. 04:12 ShadowNinja Add minetest.register_globalstep(function() local x = os.clock() + 1 while x > os.clock() do end end) for spite. ;-P 04:13 ShadowNinja (Slows the global step down to 1s+, and munches on CPU) 04:13 Peacock om nom 04:14 ShadowNinja (You can get idle sleep with FFI C code and poll()/Sleep() or luasocket and select()) 05:55 paramat oops just had an air leak in moonrealm =/ instant abm meltdown, map is history 06:37 Peacock give your air a value 06:38 paramat ... to limit its spread? 06:38 Peacock like the air nodes made by the airgen have a value of 50, each air node that spreads is -1 06:39 Peacock when the air reaches a value of 1, it stops spreading 06:39 Peacock making airgens have an effective range 06:39 * paramat will ponder that 06:40 paramat http://i.imgur.com/3jCAJAf.png air leak made visible 06:40 Peacock otherwise runaway air leaks will always be a problem, for singleplayer and multiplayer 06:40 Peacock hehe i did something similar with stone texture 06:42 paramat perhaps i will make vacuum nodes spread into air instead 06:42 Peacock same problem 06:42 Peacock you'd just get vacuum leaks instead 06:43 Peacock in MC, they place trees on the moon, without a dome, and there's a pocket of air around it 06:43 paramat hehe yeah im watching galacticraft 06:44 Peacock course vacuum leaks are more manageable than air leaks, because at least your not changing the entire atmosphere with 1 airgen lol but leaks will happen either way :/ 06:45 paramat yeah a welcome hazard of a space realm, holes in base walls means vacuum comes in, air dissapates outside, makes good sense 06:45 paramat perhaps players will just have to craft and place air nodes :D 06:45 Peacock your vacuum uses a drowning effect right? 06:45 paramat yeah 06:46 Peacock well i'd go with vegetation to generate air 06:46 Peacock make people build biodomes to go with their stations 06:46 paramat yeah good idea 06:46 Peacock stations/outposts and whatnot 06:46 Peacock you can have airgens, but with limited range/power, and have the vegetation produces tons of air 06:47 paramat air gen is just for initial base air 06:47 Peacock you could have CO2 scrubbers that act as boosters too 06:51 Peacock of course if you wanna go full-on Aliens (movie) you could have those giant terraforming machines that turn dust to dirt around it:p 06:57 paramat moonrealm terrain http://i.imgur.com/k74MFuT.png 06:57 Peacock nice, looks different from last time though, less, redish 07:01 Peacock does it have helium-3? (iron sky :P) 07:01 Peacock apparently theres tons of it on the moon 07:04 reactor paramat: it doesn't even look like moon eh. 07:04 reactor s/moon/the Moon/ 07:04 Peacock been? lol 07:05 reactor Bean. Mr. Bean. 07:05 reactor Peacock: no, but I've seen photographs. 07:05 reactor Who hasn't. 07:07 Peacock Mr Bean goes to the Moon lol 07:08 reactor This is a catastrophe waiting to happen :D 07:10 Peacock well in any case its the closest we'll ever get to the moon with minetest... especially so long as there's a sun and MOON in the sky lol 07:11 Peacock unless we pretend the earth has two moons (i thought i read something about that) 07:11 reactor Hmm. 07:11 paramat yeah i need custom skybox 07:12 paramat celeron's commit is still waiting 07:12 reactor Would need to colour the sky black (no atmosphere eh!) and replace the Moon with the Earth. 07:13 reactor Also, at night it should be very cold and in the afternoon - very hot. 07:13 reactor Oh wait. 07:13 reactor The Earth should always be in the sky. 07:13 paramat i cant resist this mind blowing terrain instead of low smooth hills 07:14 reactor ...if you place the game on the unobservable side of the Moon, you won't need to bother that. 07:14 reactor Terrain huh. Well, it could be a little smoother. It does look unrealistic. 07:15 reactor Less caves, more craters? 07:15 paramat yes craters coming 07:15 Peacock well FM has texturable sun/moon, you could always replace the moon texture with earth in that 07:34 reactor Щ. 11:52 foobar_ hi all 11:52 foobar_ how about OSX support? 14:47 sfan5 hi everyone 14:50 sfan5 opus is an amazing audio codec 14:56 VanessaE hi 15:21 PaLmeTTo_X great game. Good job to the developers and support guys 15:36 Leoneof weird, minetest + nouveau= 60fps / cpu= 70-90%, minetest + nonfree-nvidia= 15-50fps / cpu= 80-100% 15:37 Leoneof minetest with nouveau is very smooth :] 15:46 reactor Hmm. 15:46 reactor Is there nouveau for BSD? 15:49 NakedFury hello o/ 15:53 reactor elo 16:00 specing Leoneof: maybe some features are disabled for free drivers 16:00 Leoneof specing: which? nouveau very fast, believe it or not 16:05 specing idk 16:05 specing It is true though that the nvidia drivers are not direct 16:05 specing there is a porting layer in between the kernel and the driver core 16:06 specing the same core is used for Linux, BSD, Windows, ... 16:07 specing Also depends on the card 16:07 Leoneof :\ 16:07 specing Though soon I'll be switching to Intel HD only 16:07 Leoneof i wish i didn't know that 16:07 specing I think I'll buy the Lenovo T440 Ultrabook 16:07 Leoneof but intel cards can run games? 16:08 specing Yes 16:08 Leoneof O_o 16:08 specing I played LinCity last time on my HD 2500 desktop 16:08 specing HD4400/HD4600 is atleast three times as fast 16:08 Jordach i can play minetest on an Intel HD 2000 with all the shit turned up AND AT 1080P 16:08 specing I doubt minetest will be a problem for it 16:08 Jordach for 60fps 16:09 specing Im more worried about Unvanquished and Xonotic 16:09 specing My Underclocked NVidia 8600M GT can do 1440x890 minetest just fine, too 16:09 specing at 60 fps 16:09 ShadowNinja Jordach: With a viewing range of < 40? 16:09 Jordach ShadowNinja, has about 120 16:10 Jordach on Windows 7 x32 (they made i3/5 x86) :( 16:10 Jordach s/32/86 16:10 specing I'd run amd64_32 if I could 16:10 Jordach specing, the school has a bunch of idiots running the place 16:11 Jordach 32 OS when ALL OF THE DAMN PROCESSORS are 64bit 16:11 specing Indeed 16:11 specing Our university mail is hosted by google 16:11 Jordach i found out by running blender :) 16:11 ShadowNinja Hmmm, I have a HD 4000 and it isn't quite that good. 16:11 specing such...fail 16:11 ShadowNinja At least last I tested. 16:11 * Jordach puts on shades 16:11 Jordach http://xnrand.com/_/yeah 16:13 proller specing, pleeease, make 1 width at first, and after - expand 16:13 * xnrand looks at Jordach 16:13 Jordach mhm 16:14 Jordach xnrand, you've given me a replacement ringtone 16:15 xnrand Jordach: there's also http://xnrand.com/_/brwnn 16:15 Jordach no dir listing? You don't have permission to access /_/ on this server. 16:16 xnrand Jordach: that and http://xnrand.com/_/badumtsh - not sure if there are more 16:16 * Jordach claps 16:16 Jordach gg 16:17 xnrand HTML5's