Time Nick Message 00:00 ShadowNinja ( http://shadowninja.minetest.net/mods/nuke.tgz ) 00:00 Darkangel it is its just a update of it 00:05 Darkangel is it bad to update other peoples mods? 00:06 VanessaE nope 00:07 Darkangel ok 00:07 VanessaE especially if you issue pull requests against the originals 00:07 VanessaE or otherwise inform the original authors of the updates so they can incorporate them 00:15 Darkangel ShadomNinja: how does 1 use ur Jet things in ur nuke pack? 00:16 Darkangel ShadowNinja: how does 1 use ur Jet things in ur nuke pack?... sorry spelt his name wrong 00:16 PilzAdam you also spelled other things wrong 00:16 Darkangel never was a good speller 00:18 ShadowNinja Jet things? 00:18 ShadowNinja Darkangel: ^ 00:19 Darkangel oops sorry "missle" sorry they look more like a jet 00:20 ShadowNinja Oh, that isn't complete. But place a base and a controller and load it with a missle. 00:21 Darkangel ok 00:22 ShadowNinja The controller should be facing away from the base two nodes away. 00:24 PilzAdam bye 00:24 ShadowBot Goodbye PilzAdam! 00:25 VanessaE I wonder if he actually saw it? 00:25 ShadowNinja \o/ It worked! :-D 00:25 VanessaE ShadowNinja: it worked last time too, but it missed due to lag 00:26 ShadowNinja VanessaE: No, I mean it got out before he quit. 00:26 VanessaE oh yes 00:27 ShadowNinja He probably has a /shutdown alias. 00:28 VanessaE I really REALLY wish he would stop doing that. 00:30 Darkangel would it be better if the Nuke actually had real nuke exploding sounds when it goes off? 00:31 VanessaE wouldn't matter to me, my in-game sound is always turned off :) 00:31 Darkangel i c 01:04 cj hmm... looks like --config is not being respected 01:05 VanessaE /usr/local/bin/minetestserver --worldname Survival_World --config /home/minetest/.minetest/minetest-server-survival.conf .... 01:05 VanessaE seems to work okay on my server.. :) 01:05 cj version? 01:05 VanessaE (also I use that switch on one of my client launchers) 01:06 cj Minetest 0.4.9 01:06 cj Using Irrlicht 1.7.3 01:06 cj Build info: VER=0.4.9 BUILD_TYPE=Release RUN_IN_PLACE=0 USE_GETTEXT=1 USE_SOUND=1 USE_CURL=1 USE_FREETYPE=1 USE_LUAJIT=1 STATIC_SHAREDIR=/usr/share/games/minetest 01:06 VanessaE been using it since forever, currently 0.4.9 but at least all the back to early in 0.4.x, like 0.4.4 or so 01:07 cj hmmm... I wonder what the deal is. I set the move keys to ESDF 01:09 ShadowNinja Use the menu for that. 01:12 cj seems I had multiple actions bound to the same key 01:16 Darkangel Curious* how do u add smoke for after the explosion 01:16 VanessaE particle spawner 01:16 Darkangel kk 01:16 VanessaE you looking into making technic nuke reactors explode/melt down or something? :) 01:18 VanessaE oh wait, you're talking about that nuke mod thing 01:18 VanessaE in which case, ignore that particle spawner bit 01:19 Darkangel ima lookin on makin a Mushroom cloud when 1 of my nukes explode doin a rework of it 01:19 VanessaE ok 01:21 Darkangel not sure if i can get it made but attempting to make it surely is gonna be a tricky 1 01:23 VanessaE bbl 01:38 ShadowNinja Mine uses particles for the effects. 01:39 Enke Hmm? 01:40 ShadowNinja Enke: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2014-01-19#i_3553420 01:43 Darkangel sweet 01:45 Darkangel ShadowNinja: can ya show me an example of how the code is for particles 01:45 Darkangel ? 01:46 ShadowNinja Darkangel: Yes, my nuke mod. :-) But you should probably use the new table-based API. 01:46 ShadowNinja See http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.add_particle and http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.add_particlespawner 01:48 Darkangel sweet thx 01:51 Darkangel just curous* does 1 need to make different .lua files to do more things or can ya put it all in 1 .lua file? 01:53 ShadowNinja You *can* put everything in one file. But you should split it if it starts getting big. (>1K lines or so) 01:54 Darkangel ok 01:54 Darkangel what happens if u do more then 1k lines? 01:56 ShadowNinja It gets hard to navigate the code. But you could theoretically have a 1GB file if you wanted. 01:57 Darkangel lol that will be a crazy large mod 01:59 iqualfragile VanessaE: was it you who is maintaining the minetestmapper-cpp? 02:00 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: No, me, sorta. 02:01 iqualfragile ShadowNinja: bugreport: it renders crap when players are online, i assume that it meets a locked block and gives up or something 02:01 ShadowNinja iqualfragile: Known bug. I don't know how to fix it though. 02:02 iqualfragile this would be realy nice to have fixed, as you could autogenerate maps 02:04 iqualfragile i might try to find the mistake 03:10 paramat VanessaE ... and anyone else interested in processing-light rain and snow https://github.com/paramat/snowdrift/commit/ba0130336244ba16331b7614fd6ddbe81f54d134 03:27 harrison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YPUfVq1f-Q&feature=youtu.be 03:27 harrison just a jeu d'esprit 05:14 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix for player signing off before WorldEdit GUI has finished loading. https://gi 2014-01-18T21:12:34-08:00 http://git.io/dKZowA 06:22 SirDigby VanessaE whats the server and chan that your mt bots are connected to? 06:22 SirDigby I lost my settings 06:25 ShadowNinja SirDigby: #minetest@irc.inchra.net 06:25 SirDigby ty 07:46 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Schematic: Read slice probability table from schematic descriptors 21c96249fa 2014-01-18T23:44:45-08:00 http://git.io/NR0xSw 07:57 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: LuaVoxelManip: Add get_param2_data and set_param2_data bafc4ac6a1 2014-01-18T23:55:59-08:00 http://git.io/1rq__g 08:02 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Update lua_api.txt documentation 1146db9956 2014-01-19T00:00:47-08:00 http://git.io/yhpbVg 08:10 nore hmmmm, thanks! 09:21 PenguinDad my computer don't want to download freeminer. lol 10:39 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 12:59 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/NPjY6KZ.png :P 13:03 MinetestBot GIT: jeija@mesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge branch 'actionqueue' 8a71f51b26 2014-01-19T04:59:22-08:00 http://git.io/n2JkEQ 13:03 MinetestBot GIT: jeija@mesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix delayers and disable resuming if not using MESECONS_GLOBALSTEP a632a8abc8 2014-01-19T04:57:11-08:00 http://git.io/KdysJg 13:03 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #144 from Novatux/gates-fix a6bd955449 2014-01-11T23:17:14-08:00 http://git.io/qft3uw 13:03 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #142 from Novatux/actionqueue 6c979a6ebb 2014-01-11T11:19:52-08:00 http://git.io/z4a4lw 13:03 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Make receptor_on/off overwritable, fix a serious bug. fe50e87da1 2014-01-11T11:12:22-08:00 http://git.io/TRLYXA 13:03 Jordach \o/ 13:04 Jordach sfan5, ^ 13:04 Jordach well done :P 13:04 Jordach sfan5, gate commit messages by 30 seconds 13:04 sfan5 MinetestBot will rejoin anyway 13:06 PenguinDad Jordach: blender? 13:06 Jordach PenguinDad, correct 13:06 Jordach PenguinDad, http://jordach.deviantart.com/ :D 13:07 Jordach i've moved the location of my renders 13:08 Jordach i actually have to render twice for the blur to activate 13:13 MinetestBot GIT: jeija@mesecons.net commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix #140 by adding a save button to the Player Detector ee3797746f 2014-01-19T05:12:34-08:00 http://git.io/5bI4Vw 13:13 reactor Uh. 13:14 reactor EHLO there. 13:14 reactor Whom can I pass my maps to, so that I can stop worrying about them? 13:14 sfan5 dropbox maybe? 13:15 reactor I think they would be an interesting project for someone with enough spare time; and would like to remove them from my scope. 13:17 Jordach reactor, i can hold a copy, but not work on it 13:23 reactor I will talk to you when I pack it; it would be best if someone could at least keep it compatible with current MT. 13:37 PilzAdam Jordach, use MT textures! 13:37 Jordach /part nope.avi 14:06 Rhy5 Mark! 14:07 markveidemanis Rhy5! 14:07 markveidemanis Got more photography done 14:07 Rhy5 Gouda. 14:07 reactor Pornography? 14:07 Rhy5 Mark must like doing some of dat. :3 14:07 markveidemanis ha ha fucking ha 14:07 markveidemanis WTF you are 11 14:07 markveidemanis 148 photos 14:07 Rhy5 I never said I would... O_O 14:08 markveidemanis poor loggingbot_ , so much to go through 14:09 Jordach loggingbot did nothing wrong 14:11 reactor markveidemanis: bit late, but... said who? 14:14 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/TyBtpKp.png :PD 14:17 reactor Fun fact. If you take inverse Fourier tranform of john_minetest, you get a function describing sexual response to imagery of ponies by neraly spherical (read: obese) brony in vacuum. 14:18 reactor Jordach: hmm, vertical slab in the middle of a block? Or pane? 14:18 Jordach glass panes are difficult to render 14:18 Jordach even glass in general is 14:18 PilzAdam Jordach, use MT textures! 14:18 Jordach 3 times by PilzAdam 14:19 reactor MT textures look a bit "rough", imho. 14:21 reactor john_minetest: I see... 14:21 * sfan5 puts Rainbow Dash on john_minetest's head 14:23 reactor john_minetest: I understand. 14:38 rubenwardy Hi all 14:39 rubenwardy Just to remind you all, there is an update to the node box editor: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=126233#p126233 14:59 SirDigby http://us.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1vl40l/another_fake_developer_making_fake_minecraft/ 15:04 Jordach it does 15:05 Jordach they try to bring in the idiots to install their shitware and infect the device 15:07 PenguinDad john_minetest: what about tizen? 15:12 rubenwardy You can make apps for Android in HTML5 15:12 rubenwardy Apparently native, but not sure how that works 15:13 SirDigby You know someone is spaming msg in here right 15:13 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/HTML5_LineGraph 15:13 SirDigby actualy he is tring to get you to goto a fishing site 15:13 VanessaE I see no msgs 15:14 SirDigby asdfgfdsa is 15:14 asdfgfdsa_ fishing site? 15:14 SirDigby with that steller nick name who would of guessed 15:14 asdfgfdsa_ i was just asking a question lol 15:14 SirDigby whatever 15:15 asdfgfdsa_ alright 15:15 VanessaE asdfgfdsa_: it is, however, preferred that you ask your questions in the public channel 15:15 asdfgfdsa_ ok 15:15 rubenwardy *phishing 15:15 rubenwardy ? 15:16 SirDigby has anyone tried xfce mint 16? 15:16 asdfgfdsa_ im not even trying to phish 15:16 VanessaE I use XFCE but not as part of mint (rather, Xubuntu 12.04) 15:16 asdfgfdsa_ i was just asking a question regarding gameplay 15:17 SirDigby last time I ran 12.04 xubuntu I had all kinds of odd things going on 15:17 SirDigby like the bar dissapering 15:18 asdfgfdsa_ is anyone good with the luacontroller in minetest? 15:23 VanessaE SirDigby: my big, huge gripe is that S3 Suspend to RAM (rather, resume from it) is busted, on a motherboard that I know used to work (and I've tried it on three such motherboards) 15:31 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/TqCfIZK.png 15:31 Jordach nearly there 15:31 PilzAdam Jordach, use MT textures! 15:31 Jordach 4th time 15:32 Jordach PilzAdam, I own the game, i can use them 15:34 rubenwardy You don't own the game 15:34 Jordach rubenwardy, as long as i do not pass the original textures around, it's fine 15:34 rubenwardy https://account.mojang.com/documents/minecraft_eula 15:34 Jordach >Also, don‘t just rip art resources and pass them around, that‘s no fun. 15:53 kaeza greetings 15:54 iqualfragile hi kaeza 15:55 VanessaE hi 15:56 Jordach sfan5, john_minetest, either of you are availible right now? 15:57 * john_minetest is 16:05 rubenwardy Wow 16:05 * rubenwardy is uploading a github repo, 55MB 16:06 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/ProSeriesMiniGames 16:07 Jordach rubenwardy, >amazing, amazing pun you have there 16:07 rubenwardy Yeah, lol 16:08 rubenwardy The maze in "amazing" is not even a model; it was a height map 16:08 * Jordach waits for blender to finish a test with Light Samples of 20 16:08 * Jordach prepares the 4K version 16:16 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/oBtyhrR.png <- early test 16:17 PilzAdam quote of the day: "if that was fixed last year, how does it crashes this year?" 16:17 PilzAdam Jordach, wrong textures! 16:17 Jordach -es 16:17 Jordach PilzAdam, 5 times 16:26 rubenwardy I've found that /ignore PilzAdam helps in these situations 16:38 harrison i never ignore anyone 16:40 rubenwardy !title https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/6c813e924b2667a62098 16:40 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Optimize this, bitch! 16:41 rubenwardy That algorithm hurt my head when writting it 16:42 sfan5 is that java? 16:42 rubenwardy No, cpp 16:42 Jordach you've just pinged Pilzy 16:43 iqualfragile PilzAdam: hmm wants to change mgv7 and is worried about nodetopia 16:43 sfan5 Jordach: if you want me to render anything.. telll meh 16:44 Jordach sfan5, john_minetest's already on the case for 4K 17:01 harrison http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542132/Mom-leaves-children-including-8-month-old-baby-freezing-car-goes-hunting-HOGS.html 17:04 rubenwardy Hah. Daily mail. 17:04 harrison On Thursday, parents at Portsmouth Middle School were shocked to receive an email from the administration warning them of the risks their kids could face when snorting Smarties, including lung infections; nose-wedged maggots; bleeding and nasal passage scarring; allergic reactions and even smoker's cough. 17:04 harrison Some kids prefer to 'smoke' Smarties by pouring the powdered sweets into their mouths and then exhaling through the nose. 17:05 harrison Possible maggots: frequent snorting could rarely lead to maggots feeding on the sugary dust inside the nose 17:05 bspkrs they crawl into the nasal passage at night 17:06 VanessaE http://minetest.net/servers 17:06 VanessaE woot! 17:11 VanessaE well I was at the top for a bit there 17:13 Peacock do you know how many different bets there are for craps? this much http://s21.postimg.org/7drnvx1h3/Screenshot_190114_12_12_11_PM.png 17:19 Peacock after finishing craps doing poker's gonna be easy ill tell ya whuat 17:20 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YPUfVq1f-Q 17:29 PilzAdam iqualfragile, he shouldnt care about Nodetopia 17:29 PilzAdam I am aware that I use an API that is indev and will change at any time 17:59 iqualfragile PilzAdam: told him you thought so yesterday, looks like i was right 18:00 PilzAdam iqualfragile, yea, read the logs 18:19 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fmFjmvwPGKU 18:47 rubenwardy wow, Peacock. 18:49 Peacock uhm, wow what? lol 18:50 rubenwardy gambling in MT 18:50 rubenwardy D: 18:50 Peacock well its funny money lol 18:50 Peacock at least i didn't tie it into btc's 18:55 Peacock besides ittl teach kids early on that you can't win against the house :p 18:58 rubenwardy What the hell is happening? (my video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rpX-62FMKk&feature=youtu.be 18:59 BrandonReese Peacock, is your casino mod available for download? 18:59 Jordach rubenwardy, +1 for OpenTTD 19:00 rubenwardy :P 19:00 rubenwardy Buttons are invisible. 19:00 rubenwardy The box is missing it's back. 19:00 rubenwardy The player disappears. 19:00 rubenwardy It appears to happen when any of the DOM elements move. 19:01 rubenwardy the box is 3d too 19:02 rubenwardy I might just rewrite the game. 19:02 Jordach or http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pasties/store/16258/vidder0001-0100.dvd <- if your client is crap 19:08 Peacock brandonreese naw it's not up anywhere 19:14 Peacock in any case the money and shops component would probably conflict with other economy mods 19:20 Jordach hey enke 19:20 Enke Hey. 19:21 Sokomine regarding money/shops: i'd like to have a general interface (functions can_pay(..), do_pay(..)) for all those money-based mods so that mods that can profit from a monetary system (like my traders) can interact with them without having do deal with each individual mod 19:32 blaise hey, I dunno if this guy is still on but he asked me something and I was asleep.. maybe someone can be more useful to them.. 19:33 blaise 09:53 are you good with the mesecon mod in minetest? 19:33 blaise asdfgfdsa_: quite frankly I'm uncomfortable with you addressing me privatly.. 19:34 blaise asdfgfdsa_: and I'm not quite sure what you mean by "good with"... 19:39 harrison asdfgfdsa_: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop 19:41 nyuszika7h t 19:41 nyuszika7h er 19:41 nyuszika7h hi 19:41 blaise lmao 19:42 * blaise shuts john_minetest a mouse, and an enraged mouse in an old fridge from the 40's and walks away 19:43 blaise damnit 19:43 * blaise shuts john_minetest, a mouse, and an enraged cat in an old fridge from the 40's and walks away 19:46 EvergreenTree My new computer is up and running! I'm using it right now 19:46 Jordach pics 19:51 Jordach ^ fail? 20:01 * Jordach hears every bone in Jordach's back go click 20:19 hoodedice Anyone on Saucy Salamander? 20:19 hoodedice Preferably Xubuntu Saucy 20:20 Jordach 12.04 here 20:21 Calinou I'm on Xubuntu Saucy 20:21 Calinou hoodedice, ask your question 20:21 hoodedice Is it stable enough? 20:21 hoodedice Last time I tried, it wouldn't install 20:22 hoodedice I think I must go with Raring instead 20:25 hoodedice I think I just asked 20:25 hoodedice A STOOPID QUESTION!! 20:25 hoodedice XD 20:25 Jordach :P 20:27 Peacock they shoulda called it Ubuntu Slutty Susan :p 20:27 hoodedice profl 20:33 Calinou Raring will be EOL hoodedice 20:33 Calinou don't use it 20:33 Calinou in 10 days 20:33 hoodedice uhmm 20:33 Calinou Saucy IS stable like any other Ubuntu version. 20:33 hoodedice I'm putting in Saucy now 20:33 Calinou ok :) 20:33 Calinou Peacock, Raring Rarity :3 20:34 VanessaE Rare is about right... 20:34 Peacock Raunchy Randy? 20:39 hoodedice =) 20:40 hoodedice seen Jordach 20:40 Peacock playin' MC :P 20:40 hoodedice How do you do this? 20:40 hoodedice !seen Jordach 20:40 hoodedice XD 20:41 hoodedice MinetestBot: seen Jordach? 20:42 MinetestBot hoodedice: jordach was last seen at 2014-01-19 20:25:58 UTC on #minetest 20:43 hoodedice I think Jordach just gave me a nice creepypasta and left 20:43 hoodedice w/e 20:49 adab hi 20:49 adab animals and monsters work yet? 20:49 Jordach nope.avi 20:49 adab why 20:49 PilzAdam there are mods for it 20:49 adab PilzAdam: where 20:50 Jordach https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs 20:50 adab creepers too? 20:50 Jordach adab, nope 20:51 PilzAdam mobf has something like creepers 20:51 PilzAdam Jordach, do you have "nope" day today? 20:51 Jordach yup.png 20:56 fwilson PilzAdam: http://no.pe/ 20:56 fwilson :) 20:57 hoodedice http://www.creepypasta.com/the-demon-within/ 21:02 sfan5 !title 21:02 MinetestBot sfan5: The Demon Within - CREEPYPASTA.COM - Scary Paranormal Stories & Short Horror Microfiction 21:03 sfan5 this one's even more terrifying: http://www.creepypasta.com/the-expressionless/ 21:05 hoodedice & 21:06 hoodedice ampersandampsemicolon 21:06 hoodedice equalsclosingparenthesis 21:08 hoodedice Best comment on that one "wow what a rude ungrateful bcth she didnt even pay her hospital bill" 21:10 PilzAdam john_minetest, puppygame? 21:22 VanessaE kaeza: *poke* 21:22 kaeza ? 21:23 VanessaE can you take a look at https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/commit/fabb7140088058ac7411d18a08fcdf67987f249a 21:23 VanessaE what did I do wrong here? 21:23 VanessaE right click a homedecor door while you're holding a sandstone slab. 21:23 VanessaE watch what the door does, compared to say, bare-handed 21:25 VanessaE before, it would just crash, presumably under the same sort of circumstances, complaining that param2 was nil. 21:25 VanessaE wtf? 21:26 kaeza wat 21:27 VanessaE yeah. 21:28 kaeza hmm cannot reproduce 21:28 VanessaE go to my Creative sefver. 21:28 VanessaE server* 21:28 kaeza it happened on survival server 21:28 VanessaE ok 21:30 kaeza cannot reproduce locally 21:30 VanessaE maybe it requires that moreblocks also be installed. 21:31 VanessaE well duh I guess you have that already :P 21:31 VanessaE it's all EvergreenTree's fault anyway :) 21:31 VanessaE wat 21:31 VanessaE I can't right click-open while holding an admin pick!? 21:31 VanessaE yeah I can. lag. 21:34 VanessaE what I just don't get is how param2 could *ever* be nil on a node that has facedir. 21:34 Jordach #minetestproblems 21:36 VanessaE *checks history* 21:37 kaeza do you have a backtrace from before the fix? 21:37 VanessaE this file hasn't otherwise been touched since December, and then it was just to add some wield images. 21:37 VanessaE um, lemme check, I might 21:37 * Calinou shields 21:37 VanessaE Calinou: please hang around, in case this is your fault :) 21:38 Calinou I can now only play dead 21:39 VanessaE kaeza: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6782487/ 21:40 VanessaE wait a minute....ilights? I didn't see that before. 21:40 VanessaE wat? 21:40 hoodedice Dan's ilights 21:40 VanessaE yes. 21:40 hoodedice Taking revenge for ban 21:40 hoodedice XD 21:40 * VanessaE looks at the code 21:42 * hoodedice wonders what ilights could have to do with a door and a sandstone slab 21:42 VanessaE ok well the ilights part doesn't matter, it was probably just calling the on_rightclick callback because of the ownership checks prior to the rotate_and_place code 21:43 VanessaE so that's unrelated,. 21:43 VanessaE that's just the path that it took to get to the doors code is all 21:43 VanessaE that's why it also happens, or would probably happen, with moreblocks, 21:43 hoodedice check for on rightclick with doors 21:43 VanessaE I wonder if ShadowNinja's recent change to rotate_and_place broke something. 21:43 hoodedice That's what I would do 21:43 hoodedice probably 21:45 VanessaE why does it always take so long for this sorta thing to pop up? 21:49 VanessaE ok got it! 21:49 VanessaE line 279 or misc_helpers.lua 21:49 VanessaE well 280/281: 21:50 VanessaE undef.on_rightclick(pointed_thing.under, node, placer, itemstack) 21:50 VanessaE but, lua_api says: 21:50 VanessaE on_rightclick = func(pos, node, clicker, itemstack, pointed_thing), 21:50 VanessaE FAIL 21:50 hoodedice uhmm 21:50 hoodedice ? 21:50 VanessaE kaeza, ShadowNinja ^^^^^ 21:50 Jordach get out dirty heaven 21:50 Peacock lol 21:50 Peacock thats like fav_idx in mainmenu 21:50 hoodedice undef.On_rightclick? 21:51 hoodedice It's undefined? 21:51 VanessaE it looks like I had the same sort of code in the original routine before it got rewritten, so this is my fault, after a fashion 21:51 PilzAdam hoodedice, no, its the def of unode 21:52 hoodedice unode? 21:52 kaeza freenode! 21:53 VanessaE wait, no 21:53 hoodedice unode = Can be placed? 21:53 VanessaE that's not right either. 21:53 VanessaE I dunno wtf 21:54 hoodedice wtf = Welcome to Facebook? 21:54 PilzAdam VanessaE, isnt that your code? 21:54 VanessaE PilzAdam: it was, but it doesn't matter actually. returning pointed_thing as part of on_rightclick is a recent change anyway, so that's not the problem here. 21:55 VanessaE but somewhere, param2 is being lost when returning from the on_rightclick callback, near as I can tell, regardless of whose code is being called 21:56 * Peacock plays led zeppelin whole lotta lol 21:56 Calinou you could use any font 22:02 VanessaE PilzAdam: do you see anything wrong with this code? (this is prior to my quick anti-crash hack) https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/blob/7a23751de4c829183e3c09d1d53201a442db8095/doors_and_gates.lua#L485 22:03 VanessaE apparently node.param2 sometimes sneaks in as nil, which if you look at the node defs above, is simply impossible. 22:03 VanessaE did someone break the on_rightclick callback? 22:04 PilzAdam maybe its nil for ignore? 22:05 PilzAdam that would be wrong, though 22:05 VanessaE how could that happen? the "node" is the door that's being right-clicked on. 22:06 PilzAdam the problem is, mods call on_rightclick() of nodes 22:06 PilzAdam e.g. the doors mod 22:06 PilzAdam basically every mod that overrides on_place does that 22:06 PilzAdam so you have to search for bugs there too 22:07 VanessaE of course, and I'd agree if this code hadn't been stable like, forever. :) 22:07 PilzAdam you should assert(type(node.param2) == "number") 22:08 PilzAdam and then youll (hopefully) get a backtrace to the mod that is calling it wrong 22:08 VanessaE well, 22:08 VanessaE I can reproduce the glitch by right-clicking the door while holding a Moreblocks/stairsplus thin slab. 22:09 VanessaE (the thinnest one, probably other sizes) 22:09 VanessaE hence my grabbing Calinou :) 22:09 VanessaE but the error you saw, 22:09 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6782487/ 22:09 VanessaE it looks like someone can reproduce it while holding an ilights light also. 22:09 * VanessaE tries... 22:10 VanessaE my guess, anything that calls the minetest.rotate_and_place() routine 22:10 VanessaE yep, ilights reproduces too. 22:10 PilzAdam yea, moreblocks just calls minetest.roatete_and_place() in stairsplus_rotate_and_place 22:10 PilzAdam so it _is_ your code :-p 22:11 VanessaE homedecor lights also, which also use that call 22:11 VanessaE yes, but my code was NOT doing this before. 22:11 VanessaE I made damned sure of it. 22:11 VanessaE I wrung this code out left, right and sideways before I PR'd it 22:11 PilzAdam misc_helpers.lua:260 whats "node"? 22:12 PilzAdam I guess thats nil or some random value of a mod not using local 22:12 PilzAdam can you change that to unode and test? 22:13 VanessaE Ahh 22:13 VanessaE and that's not my code :) 22:13 VanessaE I never used the name "unode" :) 22:13 * VanessaE jabs ShadowNinja for fucking up her code :) 22:13 VanessaE lemme try it 22:14 PilzAdam git blame approves: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blame/master/builtin/misc_helpers.lua#L260 22:16 VanessaE yep, adding the 'u' fixed it. 22:16 SirDigby glory to arstotzka! 22:19 VanessaE thanks for catching that, PA :) 22:23 PilzAdam pushed fix to upstream 22:23 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Fix minetest.rotate_and_place() calling on_rightclick() with nil/random param for node 4585e855a7 2014-01-19T14:16:22-08:00 http://git.io/1wucYA 22:32 PilzAdam bye 22:32 ShadowBot Goodbye PilzAdam! 22:39 SirDigby Anyone else aware of a RoboCop movie that was made? 22:57 NakedFury the new remake? 23:27 adab is there any cool server with possiblity to fight other players, and with low lag? 23:29 ZStar2 We downloaded from the software center, but its an older version. how do we get the latest version? 23:31 VanessaE go to minetest.net 23:31 VanessaE or rather, 23:31 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest 23:31 VanessaE gt the sources. 23:31 VanessaE build it. :) 23:32 adab build it like a white man 23:32 Peacock we can also mail you a buncha punch-cards :D 23:32 adab that would be a lot of them 23:32 VanessaE https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable 23:32 VanessaE or install the stable builds PPA 23:32 VanessaE that'll get you 0.4.9 23:32 adab so is there any not boring server for MT ? 23:33 Peacock lol 23:33 VanessaE http://minetest.net/servers 23:33 VanessaE there are lots of public servers. 23:33 Peacock you're asking for biased opinions there :P 23:33 adab is any of thoes, not boring? 23:33 VanessaE try one of those ^^^ 23:33 VanessaE people like mine (the ones on digitalaudioconcepts.com) 23:33 diemartin define "cool" and "boring" 23:34 adab boring = nothing is at stake, there is no challange 23:34 adab e.g. creative mode is uttery boring 23:34 Peacock boring would also be having to get permission to do anything lol 23:35 adab if you can't lose, then it's not a game 23:35 NakedFury play with challenges 23:35 Peacock something with either mobs, pvp or money then 23:35 adab I can make a challange of building 20 block high gold blocks dick 23:35 NakedFury recreate something in the game in a week 23:35 adab but that still is not a play, because I can't lose 23:35 diemartin adab, fun fact: you can't win either 23:36 diemartin you are endlessly trapped in a world made of voxels without escape 23:36 Peacock ive done the whole recreate something real routine, that gets boring too :P 23:36 VanessaE adab: Minetest is not a win-or-lose game. 23:36 VanessaE it was never meant to be. 23:36 adab maybe that's why it's so boring 23:36 VanessaE then so is Minecraft :P 23:36 adab well MC is quite boring too, but at least you can fight serious monsters 23:36 Peacock you can definately lose at survival 23:36 adab yea 23:36 VanessaE you get to "The End", defeat the Enderdragon...then what? 23:36 diemartin there are monsters in MT too 23:37 Peacock you can have your shit griefed, your things stolen, etc. 23:37 adab VanessaE: then you could consider the game won 23:37 VanessaE adab: but you're still playing the game after that, yes? 23:37 adab no 23:37 VanessaE I mean, does the game just...quit? 23:37 adab no, but I can do that 23:37 VanessaE then the game isn't Over" 23:37 adab either way, it's an achievement 23:37 VanessaE "over" 23:37 VanessaE ergo, you haven't won. 23:37 adab either way, it's an achievement - under opposition 23:37 Peacock i could always make a WW2 game, and use geolocation to put people in their respective teams, ittl' be like the good ole' times all over again :D 23:38 adab there is no opposition here if Im building something 23:38 * diemartin shoots Peacock 23:38 asdfgfsa in my opinion, I think mc is more fun 23:38 diemartin BOOM! Headshot! 23:38 asdfgfsa less lag (xbox) 23:38 Peacock sniper rifles in mt would require zoom-in-formspec lol 23:38 adab so there is still no MT server that offers any *game* with objective and opposition to them? 23:38 diemartin Peacock, player_set_fov? 23:38 Peacock well thats just 049 thats laggy, 048 isn't as bad 23:39 asdfgfsa doesnt the hunger games server have an objective? 23:39 VanessaE adab: if you feel it's too "boring", not challenging enough, why not code something that'll bring such a challenge? 23:39 diemartin adab, in any case, I think sfan_5's hunger games server is prolly what you're looking for 23:39 Peacock because no matter what you code people will bitch about this or that being wrong lol 23:39 adab VanessaE: I code daily, here I wanted to unwind 23:40 VanessaE Peacock: as a mod, not as something built into the engine/default game I mean 23:40 adab diemartin: oh sounds intriquing, what's that - where? 23:40 Peacock well thats what i mean :P ex., whether i use areas or landrush, some people will always take issue 23:40 diemartin o wait... did sfan take down his serv? D: 23:40 adab VanessaE: I think I speak for vast amount of players: if there will be not a *game* (challange) in default MT, it will be quite less popular then it could 23:41 adab than 23:41 diemartin !up sfan5.duckdns.org 23:41 MinetestBot sfan5.duckdns.org:30000 seems to be down 23:41 Peacock adab unfortunately most servers are strictly regulated to the benefit of their regular players :P 23:41 VanessaE adab: my Survival server used to have tons of mobs that you had to deal with all the time. they worked well but caused lots of network traffic, which led to lag. I disabled them until that problem can be addressed. 23:41 VanessaE adab: my Nostalgia server has the classic DM and oerkki mobs from 0.3.x, still 23:41 adab VanessaE: how is it now? 23:42 VanessaE DMs will kill you on sight 23:42 VanessaE oerkkis are still as chickenshit as ever. 23:42 VanessaE :) 23:42 VanessaE (the environment is very ancient and is meant to look that way) 23:44 diemartin adab, seems to be down for the time being, sorry. ( https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5870 ) 23:46 diemartin it's enke's fault >:( 23:46 Enke Why's it my fault? 23:47 VanessaE he has to blame it on SOMEONE :) 23:47 Enke And I was handy. 23:47 VanessaE haha 23:47 VanessaE aw we all lova ya :) 23:47 VanessaE love* too 23:47 diemartin :P 23:48 Enke :) 23:48 ZStar2 not very good at linux yet. how do I install a ppa? 23:51 Enke In our robotics course, if something broke, we would blame it on someone who wasn't there. It was easier that way. 23:55 Peacock what makes you think software is different? 23:58 Peacock one of my favorite bug report responses i frequently get on linux thingies is "your ram/bios/disk is broken", because then i get to point out i get the same error across several different machines :P