Time Nick Message 00:00 cornernote hey john_minetest 00:00 ShadowNinja Hello cornernote! 00:00 cornernote hi ShadowNinja 00:00 cornernote whats up everyone ? 00:01 ShadowNinja Well, I fixed a bug in the screwdriver. 00:01 * ShadowNinja checks if that main menu fix got pushed yet. 00:02 cornernote when i was building mods, the engine hardly changed at all... now i come back and there are ooodles of new engine features 00:02 cornernote it used to seem mods were pushing the boundaries of the engine... now it seems the mods need to catch up with what the engine can do 00:03 ShadowNinja Yep. :-D 00:03 cornernote i re-did all my mod pages (still not 100% complete, but getting there) - http://cornernote.github.io/minetest 00:04 cornernote and been thinking about making a skyblock2 game 00:06 cornernote wondering if anyone has played with mapgen stuff to make a world with sky-islands ? 00:09 cornernote anyone played cruelhessian ? 00:09 cornernote https://code.google.com/p/cruelhessian/ 00:10 cornernote its like an old game called soldat 00:10 cornernote but open source.. looks cool 00:10 cornernote oh, oh... and whats this project all about? freeminer.org ??? 00:10 ShadowNinja cornernote: The "indev" mapgen has floatlands (sky-islands). 00:11 cornernote is MT changing name, community split, or something ? 00:11 ShadowNinja And with the LuaManualMapVoxelManipulator you can make very fast Lua mapgen mods. (Far less than one second per block/chunk) 00:11 newbie|2 friendly fork 00:12 cornernote i saw that, yeah it looks like an awesome way to mass manipulate 00:12 ShadowNinja cornernote: Freeminer is a fork by proller and xyz. It basically just merges all the pull requests without much review. 00:13 cornernote I see... so its kind of a "how minetest might be in 6 months" type of thing 00:13 cornernote we shouldn't start renaming out mods to "Xxx for Freeminer" just yet then =) 00:13 ShadowNinja Well, it has a lot of extra features, but it also has lots of bugs and memory leaks. 00:14 cornernote i played with the luacontroller in mesecons too, that was lots of fun 00:14 cornernote created a rock paper scissors lizard spock game, with very very few nodes 00:16 ShadowNinja Yep, I started a big LuaC project, but a certain bug is biting me. (#85 IIRC) 00:17 paramat cornernote, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4776 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=119708#p119708 00:19 paramat Peacock, island v0.2.2, with a few ice blocks under the snow http://i.imgur.com/8Y4R9pb.png 00:19 Peacock nice 00:20 Peacock ill test it out as soon as im done with my baccarat table 00:23 Peacock what baccarat lacks in skill requirements it makes up for in rules lol 00:24 cornernote paramat, nice! 00:27 arsdragonfly Interesting: my buildcraft client got updated when I started it 00:27 Peacock more ads? :p 00:27 arsdragonfly Nope 00:27 Peacock paramat: still got dirt ridges? 00:27 arsdragonfly Actually the guest username is gone 00:27 Peacock lol because they're banned on most servers 00:27 arsdragonfly You type in your isername 00:27 arsdragonfly *username 00:28 Peacock expect alot eswruihsdfviun users 00:28 Peacock *a lot more 00:28 arsdragonfly The client can fetch updates from an unknown remote server 00:29 arsdragonfly But older clients are probably still flowing around on the internet ,in .apk format 00:30 arsdragonfly Which are unable to update themselves :-( 00:35 paramat Peacock, to avoid those you need a recent 0.4.9dev and the 'no mud flow' mapgen flag 00:38 paramat see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/a358c040f2d6d1fe6825121bf8ab57ceb5865cc9 00:57 EvergreenTree Someone needs to add something where MinetestBot puts a kitten on some random person's head if the channel is quiet for long enough 01:01 * kaeza puts a squirrel on EvergreenTree's branch 01:01 EvergreenTree That squirrel is tickling me 01:02 * EvergreenTree puts that squirrel on kaeza's arm 01:09 iqualfragile https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1096#issuecomment-32568661 shitposting, gota love shitposting 01:15 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Deindent HTTPFetchRequest::HTTPFetchRequest() b11b48ec07 2014-01-16T17:14:55-08:00 http://git.io/NBzcrA 01:23 EvergreenTree I should try making an irc bot sometime 01:24 us_0gb I should try being a bot some time. I would, but Freenode won't let me take on my bot name: GbusServ. 02:04 jnharlin how do you pronounce mese? 02:05 BrandonReese How don't you pronounce mese? 02:05 jnharlin lol 02:05 jnharlin it is just hard when trying to explain to someone verbally 02:06 jnharlin I want to say mee see 02:06 BrandonReese I used to call it "messy" but now I pronounce it more like mee-see 02:06 jnharlin or messy 02:06 jnharlin it could be may see 02:06 jnharlin thinking about mesa 02:06 BrandonReese that's possible 02:06 jnharlin so that might be may see con 02:07 us_0gb Celeron said it is pronounced as meese. 02:07 jnharlin ah....meese con? 02:07 jnharlin so mesecon is pronounced meese con 02:07 BrandonReese so just one syllable? like reese? 02:08 us_0gb BrandonReese: Yes, one syllable that rhymes with reese. 02:25 Miner_48er what ios minetest clients are there? 02:25 jnharlin minebuilder requires ios 6 02:26 Miner_48er what ios minetest clients are there that can connect to minetest servers? 02:28 Exio4 Minetestbot! 02:28 Exio4 MinetestBot! 02:28 MinetestBot Exio4! 02:40 Miner_48er ShadowNinja I think the buildcraft client is causing the repeat sign problem. A player's client loaded on 0.4.8 and did that near a sign. I was able to ask about the client. 03:08 OWNSyouAll Anyone want to help me build minetest on windows? 03:08 Peacock finally got my baccarat table working right lol not looking forward to poker though 03:19 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8002708992/hEEB39E11/ 03:19 * VanessaE peeks in 03:19 kaeza hi V 03:20 VanessaE hi 03:20 iqualfragile VanessaE! 03:20 VanessaE hey 03:20 iqualfragile your pipeworks do not support your moretrees leaves 03:20 iqualfragile plzfix 03:21 VanessaE already fixed in git. 03:21 VanessaE plzupd8 03:21 VanessaE :P 03:21 iqualfragile uh, k, Sokomine looks like its fixed 03:22 iqualfragile why is sapier never online… 03:23 kaeza :I 03:23 VanessaE because he went to bed like 4 hours ago 03:23 iqualfragile weaklings 03:23 VanessaE or at least signed off IRC...it's late where he is 03:23 iqualfragile neither sokomine nor i are sleeping, sleep is for the weak 03:23 VanessaE nothing wrong with being weak. 03:26 iqualfragile but… 03:28 VanessaE you'll need to update moretrees also, btw. 03:28 VanessaE but for a different reason. 03:29 iqualfragile whichone? and when did you commit? 03:30 VanessaE eh, just some tweaks to saplings node defs, earlier today 03:30 VanessaE its for a proposed change to mesecons 03:44 jnharlin can someone help me out with digiline lcd? I can't get something so simple as digiline_send("1", "hello") to display on an LCD that has "1" as it's channel number. I have an LUAController with a blinky_plant attached to generate events for code scanning 04:01 cornernote hey VanessaE 04:01 VanessaE hey cn 04:01 cornernote whats been happening ? 04:01 VanessaE oh about as much as usual :) 04:02 VanessaE same noise, different people :) 04:02 cornernote not true at all... i see so many engine improvements 04:02 cornernote =) 04:02 VanessaE that's true 04:03 cornernote hey OldCoder 04:03 OldCoder cornernote, Hi!\ 04:03 OldCoder Hi! * 04:03 VanessaE I still do the same things I always do - code mods, do textures, play a bit, pester the shit out of the devs 04:04 VanessaE and keep OldCoder's kitten pile stocked ;) 04:04 cornernote seems now there are more devs to pester, which is awesome 04:04 VanessaE yes 04:04 OldCoder 04:04 VanessaE though there's been some infighting lately. 04:04 cornernote back when i was modding it was like scratching around to find anyone who could do something in C 04:05 cornernote had to learn the god-forsaken language myself to do some things lol 04:06 kaeza you can find lots of people that do stuff in C; finding people that do good stuff in C++ is kinda hard :P 04:06 kaeza (sorry, I'm a bit vocal about how much C++ sucks :P) 04:08 VanessaE even that's not so hard - the hard part is finding someone who is willing to wait however long it takes for what they coded to be accepted, meanwhile rebasing it dozens of times in the process :P 04:09 VanessaE besides, as for C++ sucking...there are much worse languages the engine could be written in :) 04:10 cornernote *cough* java *cough* 04:10 VanessaE actually I had something far worse in mind :) 04:12 cornernote oh... how did the wikipedia page go ? never got re-added or allowed to stay ? 04:12 VanessaE it never got re-added. 04:12 cornernote bummer 04:12 VanessaE as far as I'm aware, it was deleted and the idea pretty much died that day 04:12 cornernote but freeminer can stay? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeminer 04:12 VanessaE I think rubenwardy's page still exists though? 04:12 VanessaE that's not the same thing 04:13 cornernote nom thats not the game 04:13 cornernote ok 04:13 cornernote lol 04:13 cornernote sorry 04:14 VanessaE looks like multiple attempts have been made since then actually 04:16 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rubenwardy/Minetest 04:16 VanessaE there it is. 04:16 VanessaE old page. 04:17 cornernote i think it needed more external sources or something to become a wikipedia page 04:17 VanessaE yes 04:18 cornernote is it possible to get Minetest onto Steam? 04:18 VanessaE that's a good question 04:18 cornernote thats something i thought would give a huge boost to the community population 04:18 VanessaE I don't know if anyone's ever approached that yet 04:19 Peacock dont steam use drm? 04:19 Peacock i can see that causing peasant revolt 04:19 cornernote they have a "free-to-play" section 04:19 cornernote is that not suitable ? 04:20 VanessaE might be 04:20 cornernote http://www.steampowered.com/steamworks/FAQ.php 04:20 Peacock well, free cost isn't everything to advocates :P though GL 04:21 cornernote http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/about/?appid=765§ion=faq 04:21 cornernote the acceptance seems to be based on community feedback 04:21 VanessaE wonder what it costs? 04:22 cornernote as Minetest already has a community, that should give some numbers to start 04:22 VanessaE I don't have Steam installed here so I can't see any details beyond what's shown on the website 04:22 cornernote There's also a one-time $100 submission fee per Steam account. 04:23 Peacock though, are you sure the servers can handle the numbers? 04:23 paramat Peacock ;) https://github.com/paramat/island/commit/78ddd9ce0f277e22a4034f10299b2b4fa00faac7 04:23 cornernote haha 04:23 cornernote thats a good point 04:23 cornernote and is the game ready for real commercial usage ? 04:23 Peacock paramat: nice :D 04:23 Peacock is that the final draft or should i hold off a little longer? 04:24 Peacock cornernote any mention of the word commercial will probably be detrimental to your idea :P 04:25 Peacock people nearly shit a brick when the first android port asked for 3$ lol 04:25 cornernote first android port of what ? 04:25 cornernote Minetest ? 04:26 cornernote OMG, minetest works on android 04:26 VanessaE no 04:26 VanessaE it's not real minetest 04:26 VanessaE it's illegal 04:26 cornernote http://dev.minetest.net/Android ? 04:26 Peacock lol its still real, its just in violation 04:27 VanessaE it's a port of minetest by some third party in china 04:27 VanessaE who ignored our license, didn't publish the code 04:27 cornernote ahhh, i see 04:27 VanessaE then when he did, be published 2-month old code that doesn't compile, and didn't bother to link to it from anywhere that matters 04:27 VanessaE and stripped it WAY down 04:27 VanessaE and linked HDX into it 04:27 VanessaE and didn't publish links to THAt either 04:28 cornernote minetest is GPL ? 04:28 VanessaE LGPL 04:28 cornernote when i said "commercial", i ment in terms of usage, not in terms of payment 04:29 cornernote like if i goto Steam, and get a game thats free-to-play, i expect commercial quality 04:29 cornernote i dont care if it cost $0 04:29 VanessaE oh, I didn't see the commercial bit, I was referring to the android stuff specifically 04:29 Peacock the funny part is the community started working on an official port, though when they managed to take down the illegal apps that effort seem to evaporate 04:29 paramat Pea, it's tested and ready for the server, as long as the noise params match 04:29 cornernote Peacock, thats sad.. :( 04:29 cornernote so does this work -- http://dev.minetest.net/Android 04:29 cornernote ? 04:30 Peacock cornernote indeed, depriving android users of any working version of MT, "for their freedom" lol 04:30 Peacock paramat well i didn't change any of my noise values so everything should line up :-) 04:31 paramat you can make the distance to snowy high ground less by lowering param SNOWY 04:31 VanessaE cornernote: there IS a Freeminer Android build but it's experimental and not exactly well-supported yet 04:31 cornernote so in theory, if some person wants to do it the right way, they can make the app, make the source available, then sell it on the app store, right ? 04:31 VanessaE but no official Minetest build yet 04:31 paramat heh and ice spawns in trees ... ice storm 04:31 VanessaE cornernote: sure as long as the license is adhered to properly yeah 04:31 VanessaE no problem there 04:32 Peacock tree popsicles :P 04:32 cornernote which (in basic terms) is to keep the source code available 04:32 VanessaE heh 04:32 Peacock cool :) 04:32 Peacock cornernote yeah "in theory", though if you try to sell it, people will find reasons to crack it :P 04:32 cornernote crack ? 04:32 cornernote get it for free ? 04:32 VanessaE cornernote: and publish whatever changes you made to that source, make sure what you publish compiles into the same client binary that you distribute, and that you link to the sources from your main project page on the Play Store 04:33 VanessaE that should about do it. 04:33 paramat i used default:snow in the end because it somehow avoids the 'dark nodenox' bug 04:33 cornernote its more to save the person having to crack it... ppl would pay $2 for that 04:33 VanessaE default:snow isn't a nodebox :P 04:33 Peacock well one of our moderators cracked the first android port to show up (by unlocking the premium features in the free version) :P 04:34 Peacock oups, unpaste 'to show up' lol 04:34 Peacock default:snow or snowblock? 04:34 Peacock i thought snow was the nbox 04:35 VanessaE default:snow is a block of snow :P 04:35 VanessaE no it ain't 04:35 Peacock then whats snowblock? lol 04:35 Peacock like a 4d cube of snow? :P 04:36 paramat its a 'levelled' nodebox 04:36 VanessaE default:snowblock 04:36 VanessaE huh. 04:36 VanessaE oh well 04:37 VanessaE anyway, it's not a nodebox, it's a whole cube 04:37 VanessaE default:snow is a craftitem. 04:37 Peacock that levelled stuff sounds alot like finite liquids 04:37 VanessaE (which lacks an HDX texture? huh, I have to fix that...) 04:37 VanessaE Peacock: essentially, it is. 04:37 VanessaE it's finite water in solid form. 04:38 Peacock good lord 04:38 paramat 'levelled' doesnt need finite liquids enabled 04:38 Peacock well i can always change that bit at least :) 04:38 VanessaE paramat: no, but it's used by it. 04:38 paramat yeah 04:39 Peacock yeah lol its like a way of sneaking in finite even when you have it off :P 04:42 paramat so if you want to thicken up default:snow edit 'leveled = 6' (huh one l?) 04:42 VanessaE paramat: answer your /msgs 04:42 paramat oh sorry :) 04:49 VanessaE bbl 04:50 paramat Peacock, island mod is dedicated to the doge server, any mapgen change you want let me know 04:50 Peacock okies :-) ill update the server tonight after shutdown :) 04:50 paramat im starting a new mod to work on improving the 'archipelago' type mapgen 05:10 Peacock im kinda curious what you'll add/change :P 05:16 ShadowNinja Peacock: Seems someone impersonated me on your server, can you remove the account? (If I don't guess the password first ;-)) 05:16 Peacock how long ago> 05:16 Peacock *? 05:17 Peacock and so far i've had fake pilzadam, fake jojoa, and a fake me lol 05:17 Peacock (course geoip gives it away sooner lol) 05:18 ShadowNinja IDK, it just denys access because of an incorrect password. 05:18 Peacock loading the players folder now, could take a few minutes 05:19 ShadowNinja Or /setpassword and pm me. 05:19 Miner_48er could just /clearpassword 05:19 Peacock /clearpassword ShadowNinja? 05:20 ShadowNinja Wait, does your server require a password? 05:20 Peacock nope, but the person might have set one 05:21 ShadowNinja Hmmm, timeout. 05:23 Peacock hm, thunar locked up and took minetest with it lol 05:23 Peacock restarted 05:24 Peacock im guessing the guy didn't set a password 05:26 ShadowNinja No, he didn't. But my client died before I could set a password. PM. 05:27 ShadowNinja Er, if I can get that buffer open... 05:28 Peacock ill have to restart soon anyhow, was in the middle of rewriting blackjack tables when MT crashed lol and saved that bit in a half-finished state 05:50 paramat Pea, island has a ZYX-order mapgen loop, a LVM habit, i realised it can be ZXY-order and i can process column by column as in old landup: stone compressed/stretched but surface materials/plants shifted intact 05:52 paramat at the moment island shreds the terrain, lots of grass, flowers and surface materials are lost 06:32 madprogrammi i was wondering if anybody here has experience compiling on arm, namely beaglebone 06:32 madprogrammi :) 06:34 sfan5 madprogrammi: just tell us your problem and we may be able to help 06:35 madprogrammi sfan5: i'm sorry... i dont exactly remember it. abput 35% or so through, it had an error, something about not being able to fund a .o file 06:35 madprogrammi find* 06:36 sfan5 hm 06:37 sfan5 cmake generates makefiles that will create the .o file before trying to use it, your problem seems weird 06:37 madprogrammi i was using make-j1 06:38 madprogrammi make -j1* ... im typing on an ipod :s 06:39 ShadowNinja Well, the full error text would be helpful... 06:43 madprogrammi im sorry... comr to to of it, asking now wasnt a good idea 06:44 madprogrammi i think crazygunger72 also had a problem of rhe same nature 06:44 madprogrammi ginger* 06:46 madprogrammi well tomorrow (later i guess) ill see if i can reproduce the error 06:47 madprogrammi sorry forx 06:47 madprogrammi coming unprepared 09:28 reactor ELO 12:04 VanessaE hi 12:39 sfan5 hi everyone 12:39 VanessaE hi 12:57 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 12:57 VanessaE hi 13:06 PilzAdam github looks different.... 13:07 VanessaE different? 13:07 VanessaE looks like the same dusty old github to me :P 13:08 kahrl did you add github.com 31.192.117.132 to your /etc/hosts? 13:08 sfan5 lol 13:08 kahrl (the other way round) 14:16 sfan5 caaaaakeeeee <3 14:16 sfan5 I can haz cake 14:16 sfan5 pls 14:17 sfan5 awesome, now give it to me 14:18 sfan5 put them in a package ad 14:18 sfan5 and send them to me* 14:20 VanessaE but...I thought the cake was a lie? 14:20 VanessaE you mean the cake being a lie was a lie? 14:20 VanessaE my whole world view is shattered. 14:22 * sfan5 puts a kitten on VanessaE's head 14:22 sfan5 that'll help ypu 14:22 sfan5 you* 14:22 * VanessaE puts it in OldCoder's pile 14:25 sfan5 how many kittens does OldCoder have by now? 14:26 VanessaE dunno 14:26 VanessaE must be thousands :) 14:26 sfan5 /usr/bin/kittengen --infinite --only=cute > /home/oldcolder/ 14:27 VanessaE when did Neko update the generator to take unix command line opts? :) 14:28 sfan5 yesterday 14:28 VanessaE heh 14:50 OldCoder sfan5, they are cycled out periodically 14:50 sfan5 :-( 14:50 OldCoder to kitten kare facilities 14:50 sfan5 :-) 14:50 OldCoder where they receive the finest in food and comfortable pillows 14:54 VanessaE aww :) 14:54 VanessaE OldCoder: well your pile is overflowing again :) 14:54 VanessaE also you need to change the litter 14:54 VanessaE WHEW! *waves hand* 15:05 OldCoder VanessaE, very well 15:08 VanessaE in nekogloop's ppa :) 15:31 sfan5 john_minetest: in /usr/bin 15:32 sfan5 but #minetest has 15:32 sfan5 /usr/bin/kittengen --infinite --only=cute > /home/john_minetest/ 15:34 sfan5 it does, every user nick has a directory in /home/ 15:34 sfan5 s/user// 15:36 VanessaE sudo su??? 15:36 VanessaE sudo -i 15:37 VanessaE and is redundant. 15:37 VanessaE "sudo su" -> "super user do substitute user" 15:38 VanessaE whoever keeps teaching people to 'sudo su' needs to be horsewhipped. 15:42 VanessaE ... 15:43 VanessaE sudo -i --> --> root shell prompt. 15:43 VanessaE you're doing it wrong :P 15:44 VanessaE ok ok let's just drop it. emacs! vi! EMACS! VI! *NANO!!* 15:44 VanessaE :) 15:47 VanessaE heh 16:02 PilzAdam isnt it obvious? 16:02 PilzAdam its VIM 16:04 sfan5 !g emulate vim in emacs 16:04 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Evil 16:05 PilzAdam I bet you could code emacs in vim 16:06 PilzAdam and as we all know coding is superior to simulating 16:06 PilzAdam *emulating 16:09 sfan5 !c 2 ** 14 16:09 MinetestBot 16384 16:09 sfan5 !c bin(2014) 16:09 MinetestBot '0b11111011110' 16:09 sfan5 !c len(bin(2014))-2 16:09 MinetestBot 11 16:22 VanessaE bbl 16:22 MinetestBot VanessaE: Add the stats mod to your server! 16:24 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: bbl - food (ignore if i'm actually here) 16:24 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: TechLauncher down, (got a severe warning from the launcher log) 16:24 MinetestBot ValueError: list.remove(x): x not in list (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/tell.py", line 55, in checktell) 16:24 EvergreenTree o/ 16:24 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: Sphax 64x = 40+ fps :) 16:24 sfan5 watwat 16:24 sfan5 wat 16:24 sfan5 wat 16:24 sfan5 wat 16:24 EvergreenTree lol 16:24 Jordach EvergreenTree, lol 16:24 MinetestBot Jordach: the only Objective-C we need for an iOS port is already in Irrlicht, and I already wrote the rest we need 16:24 EvergreenTree Jordach, lay off the !tell 16:24 sfan5 MinetestBot is having seizures and ShadowBot kicks the only person who can help 16:25 Jordach [16:19:43] sfan5: (version: 2014-01-17 16:19:24) 16:25 EvergreenTree woohoo 16:25 Jordach i can has deop of said bot 16:25 sfan5 Jordach: I reloaded it, but it shouldn't send everything agaib 16:25 sfan5 again* 16:26 PilzAdam sfan5, your bot is working so well 16:26 sfan5 yeah it is 16:27 Jordach ...http://www.mediafire.com/download/u283l6332l2qmsw/SpecialHumanTemplate.blend 16:28 EvergreenTree ^ gen 6 model 16:30 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/l0umcfC.png <- super simple bones 16:31 Jordach still not finished D: 16:42 kahrl for (( i = 1; i < n; ++i )); do cat & sleep 1; kill %%; done 16:43 Jordach s/ kill %%; / panic(); / 16:43 sfan5 Jordach: bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;' 17:13 kaeza greetings 17:13 Jordach wubwubwub 17:13 kaeza fapfapfap 17:14 Jordach dworvak? how the fuck do germans do that :P 17:17 Jordach LaTeX 17:17 Jordach plol 17:49 rubenwardy I'm now #7! https://forum.minetest.net/userlist.php?username=&show_group=-1&sort_by=num_posts&sort_dir=DESC&search=Search 17:50 rubenwardy *#8 17:50 rubenwardy I did 9-1, and then 8-1 accidentally. 17:51 rubenwardy Hi all 17:51 rubenwardy Time to open the nodebox editor's source... 17:52 PilzAdam rubenwardy, #8? you must be new to this forum :-p 17:52 rubenwardy :P 17:53 rubenwardy You're newer than me 17:53 rubenwardy xD 18:00 PilzAdam quote of the day: "need a team of teenagers from 13 to 17" – pedobear 18:03 kaeza ha 18:08 Peacock one thing that drives me nuts about mobile players is they're constantly connecting/disconnecting, probably due to android turning off wifi on screen off 18:11 * rubenwardy starting writing a compiler today, using opcodes and 16 bit word size 18:11 rubenwardy Simulated compiler 18:12 rubenwardy Just runs assembly like commands in c++ 18:13 Peacock anyone ever coded a game craps? 18:13 rubenwardy Huh? 18:13 kaeza yes, it was crap 18:13 Peacock it looks like it will be a pain yeah lol 18:14 Peacock but i've done two card games already and need some variety 18:14 Peacock before tackling poker at least 18:14 kaeza try, txintxon (or however you spell that, aka "Chinchon" or "Conga") 18:14 kaeza -, 18:14 Peacock is that code or the name of a game? 18:14 kaeza :D 18:15 kaeza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinch%C3%B3n_(card_game) 18:15 Peacock ah card game 18:15 Peacock (ninjad) lol 18:16 Peacock hm, can you play that against the computer, or do you need other players (+2) ? 18:16 kaeza up to 4 players (more is basically unplayable with a single deck) 18:17 Peacock hm, yeah i could make a casino game out of that 18:19 Peacock lol well if you read the -dev chat/logs it should come as no surprise :P 18:19 Peacock (re enet, tcp,) :p 18:20 Peacock heh, i think im gonna have to rig a connection timeout, like max 1 player join per five minutes... too many at same time connecting lags the game 18:21 Peacock i say find him and kill him, and dispose of the witnesses 18:21 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8323 18:21 sfan5 !title 18:21 MinetestBot sfan5: Forum message — Minetest Forums 18:21 sfan5 damnit 18:21 sfan5 anyway: 18:21 sfan5 >Minetest Forums → Offtopic → need a team of teenagers from 13 to 17 18:21 sfan5 wat 18:21 sfan5 why would you want to find them in the minetest forum? 18:54 rubenwardy Are there any 3d games written in Assembler / Assembly 18:56 kaeza probably some old as ass ones 18:58 specing rubenwardy: most 3D games are partly written in assembly 18:58 specing that part is usually less than 1% and it is in the engine 18:58 rubenwardy I know, but I meant wholely 18:58 specing no 19:02 kaeza http://pastebin.com/QVJw577B 19:03 rubenwardy Yay! 19:03 rubenwardy Made a file dialog for NBE 19:03 kaeza :O 19:04 rubenwardy No file browser, just entering file path and format. 19:04 rubenwardy *browsing 19:04 rubenwardy And I added a file parser factory 19:04 kaeza doesn't Irrlicht come with some built-in file dialog? 19:05 rubenwardy It's only for loading, or for saving IIRC 19:05 rubenwardy I can always add a [...] button for file browsing in the future 19:06 kaeza ah I see 19:14 VanessaE why? 19:14 VanessaE tell him to crawl back into his cave :) 19:15 Jordach MSVC? 19:17 kaeza who reads them anyway? 19:17 * kaeza flies away 19:17 VanessaE that is one of many reasons I avoid proprietary software 19:18 VanessaE I will NOT have someone else trying to dictate terms to me if I can avoid it. 19:18 VanessaE (sadly, it's difficult to avoid these days) 19:18 Jordach ...bitcoin mining... 19:18 kaeza inb4 Section 87, paragraph 52, "all your soul are belong to satan" 19:20 kahrl rubenwardy: I don't know about any 3d games, but rollercoaster tycoon is supposedly 99% assembly 19:20 rubenwardy wow 19:24 PilzAdam kaeza, where do I sign up? 19:29 kaeza PilzAdam, here: http://bit.ly/17rwA0n 19:30 VanessaE heh 19:32 sfan5 !title 19:32 MinetestBot sfan5: Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up - YouTube 19:34 sfan5 you mean suspicious 19:37 kaeza http://5z8.info/ip-stealer_a9k3sn_fake-gmail-login-page 19:37 kaeza :< 19:37 * sfan5 puts a cat on john_minetest's computer 19:39 SirDigby you monster! 19:48 PilzAdam kaeza, NOT THIS TIME! 19:49 rubenwardy Nodebox editor update | 0.6.1, file dialog | https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=126233#p126233 20:36 anadon Hey, I cannot get cmake to find libvorbis on arch linux. How would I fix this. And yes, it is installed 20:36 Jordach anadon, libvorbis-dev for compiling 20:38 anadon Jordach: Fixed that -- now sqlite3 is not found. 20:38 anadon sqlite3 does not have a dev package 20:39 sfan5 you do not need sqlite3 20:39 sfan5 minetest ships with it 20:39 anadon ok 20:40 anadon odd why it was having that issue. Thanks guys! 20:40 anadon it *appears* to be fixed. 20:41 anadon sfan5: you're a core dev, right? 20:41 sfan5 yes 20:42 anadon I have a large code clean-up for src/client.cpp. Should I bother with a pull request? 20:42 anadon It may be superfluous, may not. 20:43 sfan5 just pull-request 20:43 anadon ok 20:43 sfan5 that way the other core devs will see it 20:43 anadon I'll finish local testing that add the request. 21:09 iqualfragile how to disable fire? 21:09 BrandonReese delete the fire folder from minetest_game/mods/ 21:09 iqualfragile lame 21:10 Calinou disable_fire = true 21:10 PilzAdam disable_fire=true 21:10 Calinou or am I dreaming 21:10 iqualfragile in minetest.conf? 21:10 iqualfragile or world.mt 21:10 PilzAdam minetest.conf 21:10 iqualfragile john_minetest: i am the oposite of stupid 21:10 iqualfragile kthxbye 21:14 sfan5 john_minetest: tried 'cmatrix -ab' yet? 21:18 sfan5 apt-get pls 21:29 Peacock ugh, finally turned on strict protocol checking, these mobile users were driving me nuts with their shitteh connections 21:31 ShadowNinja Peacock: That blocks stable clients on dev servers and vice-versa. 21:33 Peacock well in my case protocol v 22 means people cant fuck up my card tables and mobile users cant sign in, PC users can still update their MT 21:34 Jordach Peacock, you playing poker or something 21:35 Peacock naw i rigged a bunch of casino games but i need client's escape button to call field.quit otherwise card games get frozen 21:35 Peacock protocol 21 was set a month before fieldquit was tied to escape 21:36 Peacock but its principally the mobile players driving me nuts with their shitty connections and proxies/ip spoofing 21:36 Jordach Peacock, everyone wins 21:37 Jordach except the buildcrap users 21:37 Peacock dunno, i started logging a whole bunch of shit this morning, and quickly realized alot of people were appearing to be from dozens of different countries lol 21:38 Peacock and alot of IPs having dozens of names tied to it lol 21:39 Jordach Peacock, we need our own subgame, with blackjack and hookers 21:39 Peacock i got blackjack :P and baccarat and slot machines (missing sluts), working on craps now 21:39 Jordach make this into a fucking game 21:39 Jordach (oh, and add in some sort of currency, maybe gold) 21:39 Peacock well if there are prostitutes than it will be a fucking game 21:40 Peacock i gots the currency and shops taken care of, missing bank and repo 21:41 Jordach Peacock, you want me to make some models? 21:42 Peacock no no meshes, i already got 1(meshes)/4(game) mbs of them 21:42 Peacock in fact im gonna turn the boat into a nodebox and landrushs' showarea into an oversized node lol 21:42 Jordach plol, ad for relationship abuse, and i'm not in a relationship 21:43 Peacock trying to keep things ultralight so people can signin before bedtime lol 21:43 Peacock even at 4mbs people complain it can take up to ten minutes to load, you'd think i was hosting my server from somalia lol 21:45 * Jordach cheers 21:45 Jordach i made a new feature to my model; Shape Key boobs; you can now control the size of them or disable them completely 21:46 Jordach which means i just have to update one model rather than two 22:06 cornernote hey 22:07 Peacock howdy 22:08 Peacock didn't i warn you about the steam thing? :P i knew onpon would bitch about proprietary steam :P 22:09 Peacock (and others about commercialism in general ) :p 22:10 PilzAdam hello cornernote 22:10 VanessaE hey cornernote 22:12 VanessaE yay! my survival is in the #2 slot in the server list :) 22:12 VanessaE I musta finally did something right :P 22:12 VanessaE (now will someone tell me what that was?) 22:13 PilzAdam sending fake-data to servers.minetest.net 22:13 cornernote Peacock, yeah, lol... i just wanted to see what the community thought, and if anyone had considered it 22:13 VanessaE hah 22:13 Jordach evening cornernote 22:13 VanessaE steam 22:13 cornernote personally i dont think its ready, but i want to plant the idea because in 12 months it may be ready 22:13 VanessaE steam's not a bad idea, but I dunno if we can "handle" it.. 22:13 PilzAdam cornernote, we already had this idea coming up for a few times 22:14 cornernote hey Jordach 22:14 Jordach cornernote, i've been screwing around with blender 22:14 cornernote PilzAdam, ahh ok, i wasnt sure if it had or not 22:14 Peacock who's sending fake data to servers.minetest? 22:14 cornernote was the feedback mostly the same last time ? 22:14 PilzAdam Peacock, the top 5 servers? 22:14 Jordach cornernote, http://imgur.com/a/jgn4N 22:14 Jordach variable male -> female model 22:14 VanessaE I think we're gonna need one *big* server (e.g. some massive game running on big iron that can handle thousands of players...and NOT freeminer :P ) before we do that 22:15 PilzAdam s/massive game/Nodetopia/ 22:15 cornernote Jordach, nice... i havent really played since the 3d models.. i'll have to have a play and see if i can make something 22:15 VanessaE naw 22:15 Jordach s/Nodetopia/Vanessa_game 22:15 VanessaE people don't want ultra simple, PilzAdam 22:15 VanessaE nor do they necessarily want my game 22:15 PilzAdam yes they do 22:15 Peacock i have started to doubt bots :P alot of if discrepancies in ips/locations/names 22:15 VanessaE but something in between 22:15 PilzAdam they just dont know it yet 22:16 VanessaE then again people seem to like Nostalgia, so idk 22:16 * Jordach wonders if PilzAdam works for Apple 22:16 Peacock lol 22:17 cornernote hey, i noticed a server issue when i get a blackout or power failure, i might post of the forums if there is no immediate fix... 22:17 VanessaE the worst thing, though, about building with a nearly-exclusively-cubical world (as in, not even slabs and stairs) is there's basically nothing you can use to furnish a house with. 22:17 cornernote basically the envsomthing.txt file is empty 22:17 cornernote and the game wont start 22:17 VanessaE you can't e.g. build a couch out of cubes unless you want it to be ~3x larger than it shoul dbe. 22:17 cornernote i have to populate it with the 2 ini settings 22:17 VanessaE should be* 22:17 PilzAdam cornernote, which Minetest version have you experinced this with? 22:18 Peacock seems the vast majority of games have either too much crap, or not enough 22:18 cornernote i was on 0.4.7 22:18 VanessaE Peacock: Nostalgia is definitely in the latter category, but I can't add to it without violating the spirit of that game 22:18 cornernote probably should update =) 22:18 cornernote but its been an issue since 0.4.3 22:19 Peacock i try to keep a green policy on my server, whatever shit i add to it. i try to remove as much lol 22:19 Peacock or i think that's more of a native thing according to the wife 22:19 PilzAdam cornernote, I fixed that in 0.4.8 22:19 proller VanessaE, your server at top because all my off ;) 22:20 cornernote ok, sweet.. thanks i'll update 22:20 PilzAdam proller, why dont you report to servers.freeminer.net? 22:20 Peacock proller and i blocked android users :P 22:20 Peacock and guests 22:20 proller PilzAdam, because now it compatible? 22:20 VanessaE proller: heh, well looking at the userlist of the current top one, the only reasin it's at the top is over half the users are Guestxxxx or "Admin" or so :) 22:20 Peacock if i let all those mofos through i could have 40 players but they wouldn't do anything lol 22:20 PilzAdam proller, what? 22:21 proller new enet version will report to servers.freeminer.org 22:21 VanessaE I let android users in, but they can't generally play my servers because android devices don't tend to have enough RAM 22:21 VanessaE (except Nostalgia, that seems to work for everyone) 22:21 Peacock like i said, they can't /wont do anything 22:22 Peacock though i dont care if users build or not, but mobile users have trouble staying connected, and the constant joining what was lagging out my server 22:22 proller 10-20% of androud users - normal players 22:23 Peacock pretty much the same stats with preandroid 22:23 cornernote so many updates in such a short time... well done to the devs who have taken so much effort to bring core up to speed 22:23 cornernote from this - http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.8_.E2.86.92_0.4.9 22:24 cornernote and thats just the changes in the log, i can imagine all the non-logged changes, discussions, etc, etc 22:25 Peacock yeah though more people are reporting the random transport bug which was around since your time :P 22:26 PilzAdam its always funny if people start talking about bugs that "everyone knows", except the devs 22:26 PilzAdam s/if/when/ 22:26 Peacock i discussed it at length with sapier, just not with you :P 22:27 cornernote i never experienced it 22:27 Peacock i dont even know *what* you dev lol 22:27 cornernote u just get randomly teleported somewhere ? 22:27 Peacock off the map yeah 22:27 Peacock like a couple of hundred thousand nodes away :P sometimes e (infinity?) on one of the axes 22:27 cornernote like past 30k ? 22:27 cornernote haha 22:33 Jordach nobody even notices https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=126069#p126069 22:33 Jordach plol, i get a 69 22:33 Jordach my bank card has 69 on it 22:36 PilzAdam "PilzAdam is a champion sysadmin" 22:36 * paramat uses voxelmanips to control the size of shape key boobs 22:36 PilzAdam TIl 22:38 Jordach PilzAdam, wrong 22:38 Jordach only people with Arch get that 22:40 Peacock but people with arch are busy fixing their install :P 22:40 PilzAdam where is xyz's picture about arch and the other distros? 22:42 Jordach paramat, my model is really easy to work with 22:42 Peacock windows: few versions, many users, linux: many versions, few users :p 22:42 Peacock you'd think it would be the other way round 22:43 PilzAdam there it is: http://i.imgur.com/LdcdUrG.png 22:44 paramat J, im liking your designs more :) 22:48 Peacock lol good cartoon 22:48 Peacock sums up arch pretty well 22:49 Peacock i used arch for 2-3 years and in that time i found out the french language doesn't have enough swear words (and we got 10x the swears the english got lol) 22:49 specing whats wrong, libc broken? 22:49 specing :D 22:49 specing I was loling hard at that one 22:49 Peacock lol actually did have glibc break my install hard :P 22:51 * specing <- on Gentoo 22:51 specing I was in the archarm channel at that time (since I use it to bootstrap Gentoo installs on ARMs) 22:51 specing Was a fun thing to watch 22:53 PilzAdam bye 22:53 ShadowBot Goodbye PilzAdam! 22:53 specing bye 22:53 specing No ShadowBot goodbye for me :( 22:54 specing Or... maybe it knows I ain't going anywhere :D 22:54 Peacock shadowbot doesn't get efficient german sex from you :P 22:57 Peacock (most people here treat the bot like a girl) 23:02 Jordach paramat, at some point i will be properly animating them 23:02 Peacock good, my vegas server needs strippers 23:06 Jordach paramat, i've noticed over time, the more and more i look at my models, the less odd they become 23:10 paramat aha, i just have strange tastes ;) 23:10 Peacock like people who put ketchup on pizza? :P 23:10 paramat that sounds tasty 23:12 Jordach when i finished my gen5 - even i went dafuq is this? 23:12 paramat Peacock, all my attempts at redefining default:snow resulted in a darkened nodebox, only using it unchanged does it have a bright texture 23:12 Peacock thats allright i can always switch it for snowblocks for my personal use 23:13 paramat i suspect because it is aliased to a hardcoded mapgen "snow" 23:17 Peacock i'll dispatch a klingon boarding party to kill the aliases, and take the ship *evil grin* 23:34 Peacock why hasn't this been fixed yet? ive been hearing about it for 3 days: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/mainmenu.lua#L562 23:48 Peacock i think there's also some map corruption going on, in some of the oldest parts of my map minerals:dilithium_ore became minerals:dilithium_o 23:49 twoelk no more 0.4.7 on Canadian Doge? 23:49 VanessaE looks to be 0.4.8, twoelk. 23:49 Peacock lemme check 23:50 VanessaE "0.4.8-dev, LV-426, v6" 23:50 Peacock why are nodenames being changed though? 23:50 VanessaE oh is that yours, Peacock ? 23:50 Peacock yeah 23:50 VanessaE oh ok 23:51 Peacock what was that map issue you were having? 23:51 Peacock something to do with ignores 23:51 VanessaE who, me? 23:52 Peacock yeah i thought you mentionned having some map issue a week or two ago 23:52 Peacock (i think in the dev log) 23:52 VanessaE I had some mapblocks that I am not sure if they were new or old, air had been replaced with ignore, made the mapblocks look invisible, like they wouldn't load. had to worldedit the ignore back to air to fix it. 23:53 VanessaE the rest of the land was there 23:53 VanessaE just air got replaced with ignore. 23:53 Peacock weird, me parts of the nodename are being lopped off 23:53 Peacock twoelk, found it :-) i might switch back to 0.4.7 before more of my map becomes corrupt 23:54 VanessaE the top layer of the map, where the shoulda been dirt, was also missing from some of those blocks, but the landscape was there nonetheless. 23:54 Peacock more weird shit, do they have the slightest idea what might cause it? 23:54 VanessaE a bit of liquid landscaping and a bit of worldediting and it was all fixed. 23:54 VanessaE nope. 23:55 twoelk are only default nodes effected? 23:56 Peacock naw for me it was minerals:dilithium_ore that became minerals:dilithium_o, i have no abm that acts on those to change them 23:56 VanessaE afaik yeah, only air, dirt and dirt with grass were affected in that particular case. other nodes such as wild grass, ferns, etc were present after the restoration, and they were unaffected once they became visible. 23:57 * Jordach sits here playing that other game without any issues DB wise 23:57 Peacock you mean freeminer? 23:57 Jordach nope.avi 23:57 Jordach i actually opened my wallet for once 23:57 Peacock MC? 23:57 * Jordach nods sagely 23:57 Peacock i opened mine for Blockscape and Space Engineers 23:58 * kaeza is playing multiplayer notepad 23:58 Peacock you and the cat? :P 23:58 kaeza a.k.a. IRC :P 23:58 VanessaE bbl 23:58 Peacock seriously, the more weird shit happens, the more i think it's some sort of weird memory corruption (not that i know much how that works or happens) 23:59 Jordach sounds like you're running out of stacks 23:59 Peacock this computer is exactly a year old :P MT is supposed to run on "old" hardware 23:59 Peacock if i can't run it properly with 17 mods, there's problem :P