Time  Nick             Message
00:41 VanessaE         hi
00:44 kaeza            hey V
00:44 EvergreenTree    o/
00:45 VanessaE         what's news?
00:52 Exio4            fuck
00:52 Exio4            i need to download some files, convert them and shiot
00:52 Exio4            shit
00:52 Exio4            and because youtube.com is a bitch w/ germany i can't use the shell :(
01:11 Megaf            perhaps here
01:13 us}0gb           Okay.
01:13 Megaf            us}0gb, that's cool
01:13 Megaf            what do you do?
01:14 us}0gb           I pay them and I resist the temptation of proprietary software. I'm a member, not an employee.
01:14 Megaf            I know
01:14 us}0gb           So ... that's pretty much it.
01:14 Megaf            us}0gb, I got almost 100% Free and OpenSource software
01:15 Megaf            on my MacBook Pro I'm running Debian 7.2 with GNOME3, the only non-free thing is the broadcom wireless firmware
01:15 us}0gb           Nice! Asside from the junk my school requires, I'm running only free software as well.
01:16 Megaf            and here on my Desktop the only non 100% Free things are the Radeon firmware and some software that is not actually installed, like Opera Browser and Flash Player
01:16 us}0gb           I tried to get my graphics card replaced with one that has free firmware, but the shopkeeper wouldn't sell it to me.
01:16 Megaf            you must go with nvidia or intel for that
01:16 us}0gb           So I'm stuck with a graphics card that has no firmware until I find a new store.
01:17 us}0gb           Yeah, I tried to get an Intel.
01:17 us}0gb           He wouldn't sell it, saying I should just go download the nonfree firmware for the card I already have.
01:18 Megaf            If I could I would be the $500/year member =/
01:19 us}0gb           I would as well. I don't have the funds this year though.
01:20 Megaf            I have to now, to have some sleep
01:20 Megaf            good night
01:20 us}0gb           Good night!
01:38 Exio4            [22:16:51] <Megaf> you must go with nvidia or intel for that
01:38 Exio4            nvidia?
01:38 Exio4            what the fuck.
01:39 us}0gb           Yeah, I wouldn't go with Nvidia, but the Nvidia free firmware is technically better than the AMD free firmware I have now.
01:42 Exio4            as far as i know you need a closed firmware with radeon if you want 3d acceleration
01:42 VanessaE         not with all, but with most.
01:43 Exio4            ha
01:45 Exio4            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfvPPPc_UTs
01:45 us}0gb           I'd go with Intel just because I would prefer they be the ones to get my money. THey offer free drivers for their own hardware.
01:46 Exio4            i would look for AMD gpus
01:49 us}0gb           I have an AMD GPU though, and it doesn't work well because of the lack of firmware.
01:51 Exio4            i'm pretty sure with a nvidia gpu you would get even worse performance
01:51 Exio4            and with intel, well, they are opensource yet still slow gpus
01:52 Exio4            the only "IGPs" that can fight against entry-level dedicated gpus are the radeon from APUs
02:07 Exio4            if i had reclocking with nouveau, i would switch
03:02 ShadowNinja      sfan5: us*0gb should be combined in the IRC stats. (See /ns info us_0gb)
03:10 sistinas         hey everyone... I'm using a laptop with linux mint/ubuntu raring 64.... I have qJoyPad installed and have been able to configure everything but the mouse view for axis 2 on a wired xbox 360 controller... anyone have this kinda setup and know what I could do to add mouseview with a touchpad to the axis 2 controls?
03:41 Nomeneiste       VanessaE; Did you save a spec of sand?
03:41 VanessaE         eh?
03:41 VanessaE         nothing will change except it will lag less.
03:42 Nomeneiste       Oh, maybe it was save a single grain of sand.
03:43 Nomeneiste       Did you save a single grain of sand... :-)
03:43 Nomeneiste       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bzYc7FASoM
03:43 VanessaE         it's back up now.
03:43 Nomeneiste       Bastian: Why is it so dark? Empress Moonchild: In the beginning it is always dark. Bastian: What is that? Empress Moonchild: One grain of sand. It is all that remains of my vast empire.
03:45 Nomeneiste       I'll let Cheapie make the wish.
03:51 VanessaE         oh
03:51 VanessaE         I loved that movie
03:52 VanessaE         (only difference is I nailed it before The Nothing had a chance :) )
06:20 sfan5            ShadowNinja: done
06:20 VanessaE         morning sfan5
06:20 sfan5            mornin'
08:11 reactor          Anyone got ReactOS handy?
08:11 reactor          Can you provide me whatever program spawns the taskbar?
08:11 reactor          (I'm trying to get the taskbar in Wine desktop)
08:13 kaeza            reactor, systray I guess
08:14 reactor          ...or explorer.exe?
08:14 reactor          I can't seem to find the executable ready for download anywhere.
08:15 reactor          It seems I'll have to download the whole OS because of that :(
08:16 reactor          Oh, never mind. Found it.
09:30 JamesTait        Good morning all; happy Poinsettia Day! :-D
09:30 VanessaE         hi
09:37 Megaf            Good morning all
09:37 VanessaE         hey Megaf
09:37 Megaf            VanessaE, Im having some issues with World Edit
09:38 Megaf            Im trying to copy and paste a huge portion of land
09:38 Megaf            more then 90000 blocks
09:38 Megaf            than*
09:38 VanessaE         what's the prob?
09:38 Megaf            but when I load it, nothing happens
09:38 Megaf            I mean, server takes its time
09:38 Megaf            it loads the land
09:38 Megaf            but we cant see it
09:39 VanessaE         that happens a lot
09:39 VanessaE         restart your client to see it
09:39 VanessaE         the server fails to send the block updates
09:39 VanessaE         it's at a layer below what worldedit has control over
09:40 Megaf            VanessaE, I see what happened, it went to the wrong place
09:40 VanessaE         oops!
09:40 Megaf            It totally destroyed a lot of homes
09:41 Megaf            VanessaE, I did a backup before :)
09:44 Megaf            VanessaE, How can I be more precise with that:
09:44 Megaf            ?
09:44 VanessaE         use the //allocate command
09:44 VanessaE         set //pos1 before you //load
09:44 VanessaE         then do //allocate filename
09:44 VanessaE         it'll move //pos2 automatically to where the other corner will end up if you were to //load
09:44 VanessaE         then you can //suppress to see what would get overwritten
09:45 VanessaE         (I think that's the command, or maybe it's //hide)
09:45 VanessaE         you can use that set of commands as sort of a "preview" before you commit to the actual //load command
09:47 Megaf            is it normal to take some time to get an answer from //hide?
09:48 VanessaE         it might be yeah
09:48 VanessaE         depends on the size of the region
09:48 VanessaE         ure //restore to bring back what was hidden
09:48 VanessaE         use*
09:48 Megaf            ok
09:52 Megaf            its like theres no sense how it wants to "paste" the land I saved
09:52 Megaf            I cant get the orientation right
09:55 Megaf            Ok, I thing whats going on
09:56 Megaf            I think I know*
10:01 Megaf            VanessaE, "Killed"
10:01 Megaf            =/
10:04 VanessaE         eek
10:04 VanessaE         methinks you need to divide your area down a bit :)
10:08 VanessaE         hey john.  Y U NO finish your house on my survival server? :(
10:10 VanessaE         :(
10:50 Megaf            Hi there
11:00 VanessaE         john_minetest: it'll be back in about 3 minutes
11:02 VanessaE         expect a little bit of lag once it comes back.  it takes a backup, restarts the servers, then proceeds to process the backed-up data while the servers go on about their business.
11:04 VanessaE         hm, running a bit long this morning.  VPS host must be busier than usual
11:07 VanessaE         ok, it's back.
11:11 VanessaE         you mean alpha?
11:11 VanessaE         or clean transparency like glass?
11:12 reactor          Glass is not "transparent", afaik.
11:12 VanessaE         well in the game it is :()
11:12 VanessaE         :)
11:12 reactor          VanessaE: is ice block transparent?
11:12 VanessaE         ice blocks are not, however.
11:13 reactor          I remember in some game ice being half-transparent.
11:13 reactor          Was it MC or MT?
11:13 VanessaE         idk, but there were some tests early in the alpha stuff where it was
11:13 VanessaE         in MT
11:13 VanessaE         maybe pilztest?
11:13 reactor          Never tried.
11:13 reactor          That means, I've seen it in MC.
11:14 VanessaE         perhaps
11:14 reactor          My memory still needs some debugging.
11:14 VanessaE         minetest doesn't do proper Z sorting so you have to use shaders to avoid most of the alpha glitches
11:16 VanessaE         yes
11:16 reactor          yeah really
11:16 reactor          By the  way.
11:16 reactor          Why wasn't the chat/command entry window issue enver addressed?
11:17 reactor          Letters would suffice, john_minetest.
11:17 reactor          Would be easier to program them, I think.
11:17 reactor          So, the chat and command windows are terrible.
11:17 reactor          Why not use the ingame console instead?
11:17 VanessaE         chat/comand entry?  you mean the 't' vs F10 patch?
11:17 reactor          The problem is, it can't be bound to alphanumeric keys.
11:18 reactor          Because when you press one of them, it is removed.
11:18 VanessaE         john_minetest: +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000^(inf)
11:18 reactor          Oh well.
11:18 reactor          Matter of taste.
11:19 VanessaE         this ain't 1993 anymore, we don't have to limit the server list to just text and some generic background.  A few meaningful icons would work fine if they're well-chosen.
11:19 VanessaE         and here's the man to make them! :D
11:19 reactor          Text is always simpler
11:20 VanessaE         simpler is not always better
11:20 reactor          But again, that's a matter of taste.
11:20 reactor          Simpler is better in 90% cases.
11:20 reactor          That's how UNIX works.
11:20 VanessaE         yes, and this isn't one of them
11:20 VanessaE         simpler in this case means reducing it to one character to represent the flag, and that becomes an unreadable jumble of gibberish then
11:20 reactor          Speaking of OS. Anyone tried installing ReactOS userland in Wine?
11:21 VanessaE         an icon with a clear meaning is better, then
11:21 reactor          You can always give an explanation of what letters mean in the area above the list.
11:21 reactor          Or even make the letters appear on fixed places, and draw a diagram.
11:22 reactor          +--------option1
11:22 reactor          |+-------option2
11:22 reactor          ||+------option3
11:22 reactor          etc.
11:22 reactor          And then:
11:23 VanessaE         lesse.  a lock and/or key for the password flag, a broken glass for damage, a sword and shield for PvP, a world with a network connection under it for dedicated server, a bucket pouring water for finite liquids, a scroll for logging, and a paint brush and palette for creative.
11:23 reactor          never mind.
11:23 reactor          Well, icons you have to explain, too.
11:23 reactor          Shield may mean many things.
11:23 VanessaE         a switc and shield suggests battle
11:24 reactor          A scroll can mean very many, too.
11:24 VanessaE         er, sword and shield
11:24 reactor          et cetera
11:24 reactor          Not reliable.
11:24 VanessaE         a scroll suggests writing something down, especially if it has a pen or quill in front of it
11:24 reactor          Unless you give an explanation like in my case.
11:24 VanessaE         or you could use a pen and a pad
11:24 VanessaE         so give an explanation, but
11:24 reactor          So, you have to give explanation in any case.
11:24 VanessaE         using a bunch of letters is even worse than those short three-letter phrases we have now
11:24 reactor          And with letters only, the programming part would be easier.
11:25 VanessaE         already there is a legend at the bottom of the page anyway
11:25 VanessaE         so changing them from three-letter abbreviations to icons would shorten the length of the lines without uglifying them :)
11:25 kaeza            if minetest was a text-mode adventure game, the programming part would be even easier
11:26 reactor          Speaking of which. An ASCII frontend for graphics would be an interesting experiment.
11:26 kaeza            who needs mice? we can ditch that code too!
11:26 reactor          Mouse is okay for games.
11:26 VanessaE         reactor: ttyquake :P
11:26 reactor          Not so for work.
11:26 reactor          It's also okay for graphics editing, that's it.
11:28 reactor          But for graphics, one better use a graphics tablet, I heard.
11:29 reactor          That leaves mouse the only use: games and 3D.
11:34 VanessaE         eh
11:35 VanessaE         I've used a mouse for years to draw graphics and the like
11:35 VanessaE         as long as you have a good interface and a decent, properly-tuned mouse,it does just fine
11:49 VanessaE         bbl, getting tired.
12:18 sfan5            hi everyone
12:19 reactor          EHLO
12:31 kaeza            https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7946835968/h2F07B88B/
13:15 hmmmm            http://www.hastac.org/blogs/ari-schlesinger/2013/11/26/feminism-and-programming-languages
13:15 hmmmm            C++ is sexist
13:15 reactor          ?
13:28 iqualfragile     hmmmm: i have a hard time to tell feminists and feminist trolls apart
14:14 PilzAdam         Hello everyone!
14:22 specing          proller__: your server is lagging like -.-
14:22 specing          stone that I mine comes back 5s after I mine it before actually removing itself
14:22 specing          Also I've lost an ufo :/
14:22 specing          I just... fell down
14:30 specing          Wth I made another ufo ON THE GROUND and it just ... disappeared
14:31 proller__        5s will fix
14:31 proller__        ufo is buggy now
14:39 specing          :S
14:40 specing          ufos were always buggy
14:46 proller__        problem in entities
14:49 proller__        50% of minetest need to be fixed
14:51 specing          FIX IT!
14:59 phantombeta      Hi
15:00 nhm              hello
15:33 Megaf            Hi there
15:34 us|0gb           Hello!
15:34 Megaf            !up megaf.co.vu 30003
15:34 MinetestBot      megaf.co.vu:30003 seems to be down
15:35 Megaf            It seems like my dns thing is down
15:35 us|0gb           "DNS thing"?
15:36 Megaf            I mean. Co.vu, my "registrar"
15:36 us|0gb           Ah, got it.
15:38 * us|0gb         tries "nslookup megaf.co.vu", but the command is not found
15:39 reactor          ...are there any free domains?
15:39 Taoki            Anyone know which texture pack has this water shader? http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/443/WaterShaderDefault.png
15:39 PilzAdam         Taoki, not a texture pack
15:40 us|0gb           reactor: There's dot.tk, but you don't get to actually own the domain.
15:40 Taoki            Oh. Where do I get the individual texture for it then?
15:40 PilzAdam         its not a texture
15:40 Taoki            Setting?
15:40 thexyz           reactor: yes, there's freedns.afraid.org
15:40 PilzAdam         Taoki, RBA removed the shader before he merged it to master
15:41 Taoki            Ahh, ok. Was wondering why I'm not seeing it
15:41 Taoki            It will be added too right? If there's something to fix first
15:41 reactor          mk
15:42 thexyz           Megaf: consider switching to other nameservers?
15:43 Taoki            Anyway, bump mapping works good with Heaven TP. I get flickering, but RBA said that's a known issue. Can live with that till it's fixed ^^
15:43 Taoki            Water deformation shader works too. But for some reason, leaf deformation doesn't
15:43 Megaf            reactor: That one is free. But it keeps not working. Like now
15:43 zsoltisawesome   English channel? lol
15:44 reactor          Megaf: mk
15:44 Megaf            How do we get a water like that?
15:47 Taoki            PilzAdam: Do you believe we can / should add normal maps to the default textures? RBA proven they work, but the normal maps eed to be 128 x 128 or something at least (normal textures can remain 16 x 16)
15:48 PilzAdam         bbl
15:49 ShadowNinja      Heh.
15:50 ShadowNinja      Taoki: No, the normals will be significantly larger than the default textures and will make loading times a lot higher.
15:50 zsoltisawesome   what are you guys talking about?
15:50 ShadowNinja      Client-side textures are the way to go.
15:50 Taoki            ShadowNinja: Ok then. Only hope is if the normal maps can also work fine at 16x, but that's harder to do
15:50 Taoki            ShadowNinja: Yeah, totally needed
16:08 zsoltisawesome   does anyone share the feeling of being extremely bored?
16:09 us|0gb           I'm tired. Does that count?
16:10 reactor          zsoltisawesome: they say, an intelligent person never gets bored.
16:11 JamesTait        The version I heard was "only boring people get bored", but I think the general sentiment is the same. :)
16:22 ShadowNinja      zsoltisawesome: Go learn a new programing language and play with it. :-)
16:27 EvergreenTree    o/
16:30 sfan5            lol http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1spmg9/what_are_some_good_examples_of_the_future_is_now/cdzxxs9
16:30 EvergreenTree    > ##minetestbot
16:31 thexyz           sfan5: nocontext
16:32 sfan5            thexyz: read the comments above
16:32 thexyz           how?
16:32 sfan5            http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1spmg9/what_are_some_good_examples_of_the_future_is_now/cdzxp3w
16:38 VanessaE         hi
16:38 thexyz           ah
16:39 George           hi
16:42 zsoltisawesome   what do you guys think about Perl?
16:42 zsoltisawesome   i'm thinking of freeing some brain space to learn it
16:42 VanessaE         s/Perl/line noise/
16:42 VanessaE         :P
16:42 zsoltisawesome   wait, WHAT?
16:43 zsoltisawesome   :D
16:43 VanessaE         I think I've heard it described once that if your perl code is still readable/doesn't resemble line noise, it isn't compact enough :)
16:44 zsoltisawesome   HMM
16:45 zsoltisawesome   ACK CAPS STUCK
16:45 VanessaE         (meanwhile, if you can code in brainfuck and make it readable, you're insane ;) )
16:45 zsoltisawesome   LOL
16:45 ShadowNinja      zsoltisawesome: Hold shift.
16:45 proller__        perl = best language
16:46 VanessaE         seriously though, when it comes to scripting languages, it's generally bash or lua for me
16:46 zsoltisawesome   I TRYED THAT
16:46 ShadowNinja      Python > Lua > * > perl :-D
16:46 zsoltisawesome   WHAT"S *
16:46 zsoltisawesome   OH NEVER MIND SHIFT IS STUCK
16:47 EvergreenTree    Brainf*ck is the most insane language ever
16:47 ShadowNinja      zsoltisawesome: Then enable caps lock. :-D
16:47 hoodedice        So...
16:47 zsoltisawesome   that sorta helps>>>
16:47 zsoltisawesome   :d
16:47 hoodedice        I tested my mesh today
16:48 proller__        if you cant understand perl - its your problem, not per's
16:48 hoodedice        (Was kinda impatient)
16:48 zsoltisawesome   hey guys
16:48 EvergreenTree    I  think brainf*ck is the perfect name, because that's precisely what happens when I look at some code written in it
16:48 VanessaE         hoodedice: you should post a screenshot of that mesh for those of us who are too lazy to download and load it into blender :)
16:48 zsoltisawesome   i figured out how to crash minetest
16:48 hoodedice        Indeed,
16:48 VanessaE         (or who don't have blender installed)
16:49 hoodedice        I am doing that
16:49 EvergreenTree    Meh, I just have a run in place build of blender with a .desktop file linking to it
16:49 hoodedice        But I loaded the wrong world by mistake
16:49 VanessaE         EvergreenTree: you can spell it out.  we all know what word goes there, writing * instead of u doesn't change the meaning :)
16:49 hoodedice        And *cue long story*
16:49 VanessaE         [12-12 11:48] <zsoltisawesome> i figured out how to crash minetest    <--- you ran it? :P
16:50 zsoltisawesome   no LOL
16:50 hoodedice        Anyway
16:50 EvergreenTree    And how may I ask did you crash it?   Don't tell me you ran it into a ditch again
16:50 hoodedice        Hi Tux[Qyou]
16:50 ShadowNinja      Forgive me for not being impressed. ;-)
16:50 hoodedice        Anyway, VanessaE. what does this inventory image come from?
16:50 hoodedice        *where
16:51 VanessaE         link?
16:51 zsoltisawesome   i found a semi relistic car model and i put that as the character model
16:51 EvergreenTree    Your minetest looks incredibly battered, we probably need to take it into a repair shop
16:51 zsoltisawesome   lol
16:51 hoodedice        (lol)
16:52 hoodedice        Any inv image?
16:52 zsoltisawesome   #whatdidimiss
16:52 hoodedice        Where is it loaded from
16:52 VanessaE         it depends
16:52 VanessaE         some are directly copied from the image files stored with the mod, e.g. if the mod does, inventory_image = "foo.png".
16:53 VanessaE         others are rendered from the node's visual, e.g. if it's a cobe or a nodebox
16:53 zsoltisawesome   so did they add that lua voxel manipulator or what ever its called?
16:53 VanessaE         cube*
16:53 VanessaE         zsoltisawesome: long ago.
16:53 zsoltisawesome   oh nice
16:53 Tux[Qyou]        hi
16:53 zsoltisawesome   i guess its time to hit the books
16:53 hoodedice        Hmm, because I messed up PilzAdam's code to get my mesh ingame
16:54 VanessaE         hoodedice: if a node def does not specify the inventory_image field, then the image is rendered from the node's visuals directly.
16:54 hoodedice        But it still shows ye ol cart
16:54 thexyz           ShadowNinja: if you want to be edgy then python > lua >>> shit > perl
16:54 thexyz           but you know that's not true
16:54 thexyz           zsoltisawesome: learn C
16:54 zsoltisawesome   hell no
16:54 thexyz           why?
16:54 thexyz           it's not hard
16:54 zsoltisawesome   i like low level stuff better
16:54 VanessaE         then klearn C++?
16:54 VanessaE         -k
16:54 hoodedice        http://i.imgur.com/MJXldZv.png
16:55 zsoltisawesome   bah imgur
16:55 thexyz           no, you should start with C
16:55 VanessaE         it'd a direct image link, zsoltisawesome.
16:55 thexyz           or maybe not? I'm not really sure now
16:55 hoodedice        Why the hate?
16:55 reactor          Start with PDP-11 assembly.
16:55 zsoltisawesome   i"m already learning x*^ assembly
16:56 hoodedice        (C is not low level?)
16:56 zsoltisawesome   NOT
16:56 zsoltisawesome   its high level
16:56 hoodedice        High is better ^.^
16:56 hoodedice        #sarcasm
16:56 VanessaE         to get a good image for your rollercoaster cars, what I'd do is texture them, render them in-game, take a screenshot, and post-process with The GIMP or so.
16:56 thexyz           > believing that one language is better than another
16:57 VanessaE         zsoltisawesome: assembly is good to learn, but you will need to learn C or C++ if you want your code to be portable.
16:57 hoodedice        Indeed VanessaE but there's still much to do, that's why I didn't texture em yet
16:57 hoodedice        Hey Tux[Qyou], did you get your WorldEdit in order?
16:57 Tux[Qyou]        wut
16:58 Tux[Qyou]        I mean uhhh\
16:58 Tux[Qyou]        I have no idea what you are talking about
16:58 EvergreenTree    zsoltisawesome, The changelog is outdated and incomplete
16:58 zsoltisawesome   what changelog
16:59 zsoltisawesome   i look good in a suit
16:59 thexyz           lol
16:59 zsoltisawesome   https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/The_C_Programming_Language_logo.svg
16:59 zsoltisawesome   how offical
17:00 hoodedice        (So many Tuxes)
17:00 hoodedice        Sorry, thought you were someone elseXD
17:01 zsoltisawesome   lol
17:01 zsoltisawesome   i said that just to mislead people that dont pay attention
17:02 thexyz           tfw no `make uninstall`
17:02 thexyz           learn C
17:02 hoodedice        make purge?
17:02 thexyz           thank me later
17:02 hoodedice        make delete? make remove?
17:03 zsoltisawesome   make milk
17:03 zsoltisawesome   lol
17:03 hoodedice        VanessaE: The rollerthings are too wide
17:03 zsoltisawesome   make coffee
17:03 hoodedice        Do they look good as is?
17:03 hoodedice        (make) (milk)
17:03 hoodedice        No.
17:03 VanessaE         impossible to tell without textures or at least some kind of lighting/shadows
17:03 hoodedice        That looks wrong
17:04 zsoltisawesome   make pie flavored pie
17:04 hoodedice        Brb
17:04 VanessaE         all I see are solid whiteish silhouettes without any kind of shape
17:04 thexyz           make love no war
17:04 zsoltisawesome   lol
17:04 hoodedice        Jordach:
17:04 Jordach          WHAT
17:04 zsoltisawesome   lol
17:04 hoodedice        HI
17:04 Jordach          i've nearly finished the cubic fingers
17:04 hoodedice        What was that program you used again?
17:04 hoodedice        Nice.
17:05 zsoltisawesome   that sounds very creepy
17:05 Jordach          Generation 5 will be the first release of my model
17:05 hoodedice        mc3dskin thingy
17:05 * Jordach        dislikes version numbers and prefers rolling release
17:05 Jordach          !g mcskin3d
17:05 MinetestBot      Jordach: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/746941-mcskin3d-new-skinning-program-update-14/
17:05 Jordach          ^ hoodedice
17:05 hoodedice        Thanks!
17:06 * zsoltisawesome dislikes Jordach
17:06 hoodedice        Does this thing have import for custom meshes?
17:07 Jordach          no
17:07 Jordach          it just does player models and the minecraft mobs
17:08 zsoltisawesome   this is so damn annoying
17:08 zsoltisawesome   when ever i click a link it opens a new firefox window
17:08 Jordach          i used it because it was way simpler than having to use gimp + blender
17:09 zsoltisawesome   cause i it thinks im pressing shift
17:10 hoodedice        Jordach, dafuq they got models in an xml?
17:11 zsoltisawesome   brb gotta reset my computer
17:16 zsoltisawesome   ok that fixed it
17:20 zsoltisawesome   Who has heard of the Symantec NANORG project?
17:21 reactor          Anyone playing Half-Life?
17:21 VanessaE         bbl
17:21 reactor          How do I disable the announce to the master list there?
17:21 zsoltisawesome   not at the moment...
17:22 zsoltisawesome   i have no clue, sorry
17:23 zsoltisawesome   minetest question
17:23 reactor          mk
17:23 zsoltisawesome   umm, how does one set a seed to always generate?
17:23 zsoltisawesome   and spawn in the same place?
17:25 reactor          For spawn in the same place, there is a config option.
17:25 zsoltisawesome   nvm
17:25 reactor          Map seed can be set there, too, I think.
17:25 zsoltisawesome   there is config option for static seed too
17:25 reactor          Grammar notice: "nvm" is wrong.
17:26 reactor          "nm" is the right abbreviation for never mind.
17:26 reactor          But never mind.
17:27 zsoltisawesome   Annoying notice: reactor is very perticular about grahhmmmmmer
17:27 zsoltisawesome   never mind indeed
17:28 reactor          People who don't know how to spell, worse who know how to spell, but pretend they don't, make poor impression.
17:28 reactor          Cheers!
17:28 zsoltisawesome   lol
17:30 zsoltisawesome   so, i need a helper to help me with Moontest
17:30 reactor          ?
17:31 reactor          The mod that lets you moon people in MT?
17:31 zsoltisawesome   lawl
17:31 zsoltisawesome   tinyurl.com/Moontest
17:36 zsoltisawesome   And, silence.....
17:37 lordcirth        zsoltisawesome, will this Moontest have air vs vacuum?
17:38 zsoltisawesome   what do you mean?
17:39 zsoltisawesome   like if there is an unoccuiped air node next ot a vacuum node, it will turn into a vacuum node
17:39 lordcirth        zsoltisawesome, as in, if you walk outside your base without a suit, u die
17:39 zsoltisawesome   yes
17:39 lordcirth        zsoltisawesome, and holes in your base will let the air out?
17:39 zsoltisawesome   yes
17:40 zsoltisawesome   and there will be air machines powered by ?ice water?
17:40 lordcirth        zsoltisawesome, that is awesome.  I thought about that a long time ago, also an underwater world, but it was way beyond me
17:40 zsoltisawesome   lordcirth: wanna help
17:40 zsoltisawesome   they just added suffication nodes in 0.4.8
17:41 lordcirth        zsoltisawesome, sure.  I have made some decent mods, so I know the lua side a bit
17:41 zsoltisawesome   so it wouldn't have reeally been possible
17:41 lordcirth        zsoltisawesome, really?  so they are like air but kill you?
17:41 zsoltisawesome   awesome
17:41 zsoltisawesome   yea
17:41 zsoltisawesome   you can determine any node to be a suffication node
17:41 zsoltisawesome   with a bit of lua :D
17:42 lordcirth        zsoltisawesome, do they use the drowning bar, or just dps?
17:42 lordcirth        oh i see drowning
17:42 zsoltisawesome   i havent tried it personally yes
17:42 zsoltisawesome   *yet
17:42 zsoltisawesome   just heard about it
17:43 zsoltisawesome   could somebody do me a flavor?
17:43 lordcirth        zsoltisawesome, is there a repo yet?  and have you decided whether you need to fork engine or just mod>
17:43 lordcirth        ?*
17:43 us^0gb           A "flavor"?
17:43 zsoltisawesome   :D
17:43 zsoltisawesome   a favor
17:43 us^0gb           I figured. Ask.
17:44 zsoltisawesome   http://ubuntuone.com/5lcKb4fu51XHe0WgwdIUke <--- DL this and share it throught irc...
17:44 zsoltisawesome   lordcirth: no, i hate git with all my guts, thats why i need other peoples help...
17:45 zsoltisawesome   i'm gonna need to fork the engine
17:45 zsoltisawesome   cause i'm gonna make the menu totally different
17:45 zsoltisawesome   and other stuff like that
17:46 us^0gb           I can't distribute Windows applications without a GNU counterpart. That would be asking people to use Windows.
17:46 ShadowNinja      zsoltisawesome: You can do that with a game, or in a extreme case a buildin mod.
17:46 zsoltisawesome   erm how
17:46 ShadowNinja      zsoltisawesome: The menu textures.
17:47 zsoltisawesome   :|
17:47 zsoltisawesome   not amused
17:49 zsoltisawesome   Rough drawing ----> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/4hTgw4CSx2jrFOmjMD7Z https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/cCszhC32Re6FTI5CXpOA
17:50 zsoltisawesome   us^0gb: urm, i do have a linux version
17:51 us^0gb           zsoltisawesome: Okay, post it, and I will spread both.
17:51 zsoltisawesome   ok
17:51 zsoltisawesome   spread?
17:51 zsoltisawesome   http://ubuntuone.com/72BGzfOE4aSuINj0sUJGT3
17:51 zsoltisawesome   oh nm
17:52 us^0gb           As you put it, "<--- DL this and share it throught irc...".
17:52 zsoltisawesome   ya
17:52 zsoltisawesome   im very tired
17:52 us^0gb           No worries. Take a nap if you have time.
17:53 zsoltisawesome   ok
17:55 zsoltisawes|away my username is too long
17:55 zsoltisawes|away XD
17:55 reactor          Pwned.
17:55 jin_xi           make it zsoltisaway
18:00 ShadowNinja      zsoltisawes|away: Please don't use away nicks or AMSGs.
18:00 reactor          away nicks are spawn of the hell
18:00 reactor          So are AMSG
18:00 reactor          No one gives a shit you're away or not.
18:02 zsoltisawes|away lol
18:02 zsoltisawes|away ok
18:04 zsoltisawesome   us^0gb: hows the sharing coming?
18:05 us^0gb           Still downloading. Also, I'm finishing up a script first.
18:06 us^0gb           I want a script that replicates my work environment so I can install it to other machines.
18:06 us^0gb           Speak of the devil, the second download just finished.
18:08 zsoltisawesome   awesome
18:09 zsoltisawesome   is there a way you could host the DL on your server?
18:09 us^0gb           My server is too slow as it is. If there were not people using it, I would shut it down.
18:09 damir__          hello
18:10 zsoltisawesome   ok
18:10 us^0gb           Hello!
18:10 zsoltisawesome   Hello!
18:10 kaeza            hi
18:10 us^0gb           Hmm. If you send the source code as well, I will upload it to my server when I have a minute. But don't expect fast download speeds.
18:11 us^0gb           Are there other compiled versions for other systems? If so, send those too.
18:12 zsoltisawesome   the linux one is the source code with the added resources (i was too lazy to compile)
18:12 us^0gb           Oh, also, disclaimers and stuff: I do not claim to be up at any given time or for any length of time.
18:13 us^0gb           Okay, I'll compile it when I have a minute.
18:13 zsoltisawesome   ok cool
18:14 zsoltisawesome   ugh
18:14 us^0gb           I need a way to separate packages I've installed from ones that came preinstalled ....
18:15 zsoltisawesome   ah
18:15 zsoltisawesome   if you were starting from scratch i would say write a program that wirtes something to file every time you install something
18:16 reactor          OldCoder: o/
18:17 us^0gb           Yeah, I'm wondering about that. I can't interfere with the installer directly (to add a log), but I could make a new installer/uninstaller that keeps a log and calls the default installer/uninstaller to do the actual non-log work.
18:19 zsoltisawesome   ya, and make it so that you can run the installer program with that program so it will make a log of it
18:21 Megaf            Why the hell so many mods have this fucking bug?
18:21 Megaf            http://paste.debian.net/70541/
18:22 Megaf            99,9% of my servers crashes are causes by this "nil value"
18:22 Megaf            16:25:30: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: ...est/bin/../games/minetest_game/mods/areas/legacy.lua:113: at tempt to index local 'pos' (a nil value)
18:22 Megaf            ShadowNinja:
18:24 ShadowNinja      Megaf: Something is calling HasOwner() instead of HasOwner(pos)
18:24 ShadowNinja      (Or with a nil pos)
18:24 ShadowNinja      Megaf: It seems to be plants_lib. VanessaE^
18:24 ShadowNinja      +': '
18:25 Megaf            Don´t you mod maker check the bloody code before uploading it??
18:25 OldCoder         reactor, Hello
18:25 reactor          EHLO
18:25 Megaf            When I do any kind of piece of software I check and recheck my code at LEAST 5 times
18:26 Megaf            I never heard a single complain from anyone
18:26 Jordach          Megaf, the nil bug is where a mod has a variable, but has not set the variable data
18:27 Jordach          eg, i make x[1] = 1, but x[2] when printed outputs nil
18:28 Megaf            that's one single line of code to check that and avoid a crash
18:28 Megaf            I made big plans for minetest, to make money with it and donating money back to minetest
18:29 Megaf            but how the hell will that work if this keeps crashing all the time???
18:29 reactor          Planks?
18:29 ShadowNinja      VanessaE: Try "if not pointedthing.type == 'node' then return end"
18:35 Jordach          Gen 5 Model prototype incoming :D
18:35 Calinou          <Megaf> I made big plans for minetest, to make money with it and donating money back to Minetest
18:35 Calinou          big plans fail early
18:36 Megaf            Calinou: indeed, totally failed already because of tones of bugs in mods
18:36 MinetestBot      GIT: xyzz commited to minetest/minetest: Add configurable font shadow. 76036abdb0 2013-12-12T09:47:54-08:00 http://git.io/m22qJQ
18:37 Megaf            I hate life =/
18:39 reactor          Pwned, Megaf.
18:39 kaeza            "If you plan for the worst, all surprises are pleasant"
18:40 reactor          kaeza: true.
18:40 zsoltisawesome   +1
18:40 reactor          Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
18:40 thexyz           Megaf: you can port minetest to android and sell it on google play
18:41 thexyz           and then to iOS too
18:41 zsoltisawesome   that would be amazing
18:42 Megaf            [16:41] <thexyz> Megaf: you can port minetest to android and sell it on google play
18:42 Megaf            one did that and seems like you hate him
18:42 Megaf            [16:40] <kaeza> "If you plan for the worst, all surprises are pleasant"
18:42 Megaf            That's a good one
18:42 ShadowNinja      Megaf: He didn't release the source code, which made it illegal.
18:43 thexyz           Megaf: because it was illegal
18:43 thexyz           you can make patches to minetest engine public and still sell it
18:43 thexyz           eg by not open sourcing the java part
18:43 thexyz           and this is perfectly fine
18:43 Calinou          you can make money with open source
18:44 Calinou          thexyz, it even is easy on mobile platforms
18:44 Calinou          sell the binaries, make the source available
18:44 Calinou          the vast majority of people will buy the app directly
18:44 thexyz           lol, of course
18:44 Calinou          really
18:44 Jordach          and remove the compiling commands :P
18:44 thexyz           until someone repackages it
18:44 ShadowNinja      Calinou: ^
18:44 thexyz           like with xchat/hexchat?
18:44 MinetestBot      GIT: kaeza commited to minetest/minetest: Add 'on_prejoinplayer' callback 33de69a173 2013-12-12T10:42:14-08:00 http://git.io/l5Re6A
18:44 thexyz           or what was it
18:44 kaeza            \o/
18:45 Calinou          may not always happen, also some people will only buy the original thing because of brand image
18:45 thexyz           people aren't going to buy what they can get for free
18:45 thexyz           if it's the same quality
18:45 Calinou          (some people could be scared aboutmalware, or such)
18:45 Calinou          thexyz, lol no
18:45 Calinou          they certainly will
18:45 thexyz           I'm talking about most people
18:45 Calinou          you're exactly saying the inverse of what you do
18:45 thexyz           how so?
18:45 Calinou          whining about IDEs
18:45 thexyz           and?
18:45 thexyz           I was talking about "same quality"
18:45 thexyz           you probably didn't read my messages too well
18:45 Calinou          <thexyz> like with xchat/hexchat? → correct
18:45 thexyz           try again, reading is hard
18:46 thexyz           i've made some money with open source, yes; but that was when I used something open source
18:46 thexyz           not sold it or anything like that
18:46 thexyz           and most open source success stories look a bit too similar
18:47 Calinou          look a bit too similar?
18:47 thexyz           yes
18:47 thexyz           "extended" versions of software and "community editions"
18:47 Calinou          ah
18:47 thexyz           can you point me at example of people successfully selling, say, GPL software binaries while providing sources?
18:48 Calinou          there also is "pay what you want", but you can't do that with an app store :P
18:48 Calinou          I've seen a blender plugin, but not sure if it sells well
18:48 thexyz           nice joke, keep going <3
18:48 Calinou          I'm not joking
18:48 thexyz           yea, yea
18:49 thexyz           > blender plugin
18:49 thexyz           > making money
18:49 thexyz           choose one
18:49 Calinou          why not?
18:49 Megaf            thexyz: VMWare Zimbra, VirtualBox, OpenVZ/Parallels, Solaris/OpenSolaris,
18:49 Calinou          a decent amount of professionals and a lot of amateurs use blender, and some of them may be buying plugins
18:49 Megaf            thexyz: Endian Firewall
18:49 Megaf            all of them sell binary stuff and make source code available
18:49 thexyz           Calinou: which they can also download for free
18:49 Calinou          VMWare Zimbra?
18:49 Megaf            and even a community edition
18:50 Calinou          thexyz, it is not as trivial
18:50 thexyz           Megaf: and binary stuff is exactly the same as what they offer to download?
18:50 thexyz           Calinou: so you get the point
18:50 Calinou          these people will usually see "Buy now" on the author's web site, and they'll buy it
18:50 Calinou          not all of them will fire up a search engine and bother going through more stuff to get it for free (or for cheaper)
18:50 Megaf            thexyz: the stuff they sell has come special features
18:50 Megaf            have
18:50 thexyz           Megaf: that's what I'm talking about
18:50 thexyz           please read!
18:51 thexyz           Calinou: not all of them, but many, I guess
18:51 Megaf            you still be making money by then
18:51 thexyz           unless you work with big corps that need 24/7 support and other stuff I'm afraid it's impossible to make monies like this
18:51 thexyz           Megaf: please read!
18:51 Jordach          thexyz, stop "annoying others" about your own fucking opinion
18:51 thexyz           Jordach: fuck off
18:51 Calinou          it is possible, I think.
18:51 Jordach          thexyz, and then?
18:51 Calinou          if you think it is possible, it may happen
18:51 thexyz           what I'm asking for is an example of GPL'd software which sells
18:51 thexyz           Jordach: and then go away
18:51 BlockMen         sfan5, there you have your waving leaves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIpfWcIBFgw
18:51 Calinou          red hat? :trollface
18:52 * Calinou        runs
18:52 thexyz           Calinou: that's like a quote from some romantic shit
18:52 sfan5            BlockMen: how about getting a better gfx card
18:52 Calinou          I don't say "that's like a quote from some anime shit" when you talk about anime or quote it
18:52 thexyz           BlockMen: how many FPS do you have?
18:52 thexyz           Calinou: I quote it? I didn't know; anyway, we're getting away from the subject, can you give me some examples of such software?
18:53 BlockMen         sfan5, if you pay for im fine with
18:53 Calinou          if you want very known stuff... then, RHEL?
18:53 Megaf            BlockMen: is that native?
18:53 BlockMen         thexyz, usually ~60fps, but with that many snow it was ~5-7fps
18:53 Megaf            or is one more plugin that will eventually shit a nil value?
18:53 Calinou          I gtg for dinner bye
18:53 thexyz           Calinou: alright then; but they sell support (which is legit); and we were talking about selling Minetest, no?
18:54 BlockMen         Magaf, native like ingame?
18:54 Jordach          BlockMen, are you modding the engine again#
18:54 Megaf            BlockMen: like you dont need to install any mod
18:54 Jordach          -#
18:54 Calinou          most people are real newbies when it comes to computers, I said it already
18:55 thexyz           I fucking hate when people do this
18:55 thexyz           but well
18:55 thexyz           I'll remember this
18:55 BlockMen         Jordach, not atm.
18:55 thexyz           and not to myself not to argue with him anymore
18:55 thexyz           because it's clearly a waste of time
18:55 BlockMen         Megaf, it is a modified default, so a mod
18:55 Jordach          same could be said about other people's opinions
18:55 Jordach          thexyz, stop complaining at others when they will do the same to you
18:55 thexyz           Jordach: fuck off <3
18:56 * Jordach        pets thexyz
18:56 Megaf            thexyz: you still talking to me, so you will still talking to Calinou
18:56 thexyz           uh?
18:56 Megaf            Iant I the most annoying person here?
18:56 Megaf            Aint*
18:56 kaeza            wut
18:57 thexyz           > here's some shit I posted
18:57 thexyz           > SORRY GTG BAI
18:57 thexyz           ^ typical argument
18:57 Jordach          thexyz, Calinou has a life; you don't
18:57 Jordach          (oh, and keep timezones in mind)
18:57 thexyz           Jordach: fuck off
18:57 thexyz           seriously, do that
18:59 * zsoltisawesome is very sad
19:00 * zsoltisawesome is waiting for a download of Moontest to pop out of the ground
19:01 reactor          OldCoder: ?
19:01 * zsoltisawesome slaps us^0gb around a bit with a large trout
19:02 us^0gb           What did I do?
19:02 zsoltisawesome   lol
19:02 zsoltisawesome   i was trying to get your attection
19:02 * Jordach        's model is nearing 100% completion for Gen 5
19:02 zsoltisawesome   * zsoltisawesome is waiting for a download of Moontest to pop out of the ground
19:02 Jordach          lol moontest
19:02 Megaf            us^0gb: you were born
19:03 zsoltisawesome   Megaf: LOL
19:03 us^0gb           I don't suppose you know much about shell argument handling, would you zsoltisawesome?
19:03 zsoltisawesome   in bash?
19:03 us^0gb           Megaf: I didn't ask to be born! *runs off and sobs in corner*
19:03 Megaf            us^0gb: I think we need something like this http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a3YZVdv_460s.jpg
19:03 us^0gb           zsoltisawesome: Yes and no. Let's go with "yes" for now.
19:04 zsoltisawesome   ok, umm let me think
19:04 Megaf            "Very useful for hard days "
19:04 us^0gb           Megaf: Oh, wow.
19:04 us^0gb           zsoltisawesome: Basically, I need $@ without the first argument.
19:05 zsoltisawesome   hmm
19:06 us^0gb           Yeah, that's what I'm doing right now. Silly bash scripting. I'm building a package manager front end.
19:07 zsoltisawesome   thats a tough one
19:07 zsoltisawesome   ACK
19:08 zsoltisawesome   oh
19:09 * zsoltisawesome is going to eat lunch
19:09 us^0gb           Okay, see you later.
19:10 Jordach          john_minetest, thefamilygrog's lrfurn mod has sitting afaik
19:11 Jordach          john_minetest, not to mention: my g5 model is nearly ready for another prototype release
19:19 zsoltisawesome   indeed
19:28 Jordach          woot
19:28 Jordach          cubic legs unlocked :D
19:35 lordcirth        zsoltisawesome, sry afk.  The menu, at least, is defined outside of the engine.  also, what don't you like about git?
19:37 Jordach          all my gen 5 prototype is missing is the thumbs (and those are really easy to make...)
19:46 zsoltisawesome   lordcirth: well, the fact that i cant upload stuff like DB, i have to use a complicated external program
19:52 zsoltisawesome   Jordach: sorry but https://www.dropbox.com/s/ww77vcpjhzg5jms/Photo%20Oct%2012%2C%2023%2041%2013.jpg
19:53 Jordach          zsoltisawesome, and nobody gave a shit about moontest
19:53 zsoltisawesome   at least it seems that wy
19:53 zsoltisawesome   *way
19:53 zsoltisawesome   just saying man
19:53 Jordach          zsoltisawesome, i'm the first person to generate a minetest animatic
19:53 Jordach          with a home made model
19:54 zsoltisawesome   and Minetest doesn't lag to high heaven?
19:54 zsoltisawesome   good job then
19:54 Jordach          ha
19:54 zsoltisawesome   what
19:55 * zsoltisawesome is really bored
19:55 Jordach          zsoltisawesome, my models look IDENTICAL to this guy's: http://www.youtube.com/user/SlamacowCreations
19:56 * zsoltisawesome is tired of MOV, JMP and JNS
19:56 Jordach          not to mention mine works in blender
19:56 zsoltisawesome   WHAT
19:56 * Calinou        ties zsoltisawesome to a chair, in front of youtube and uninstalls flash
19:57 zsoltisawesome   lol
19:57 zsoltisawesome   i use the HTML5 Youtube
19:57 zsoltisawesome   so that would do nothing
19:57 Jordach          IE6 for you then
19:58 zsoltisawesome   no thanks, i'll stick with Earthworm
19:58 zsoltisawesome   Or FF
19:59 * zsoltisawesome is thinking that MOV is very annoying
20:01 Calinou          MOV?
20:01 zsoltisawesome   assembler
20:01 zsoltisawesome   XD
20:02 Calinou          MOV zsoltisawesome TRASH;
20:02 zsoltisawesome   Jordach: you don't have Wikipedia account?
20:02 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:02 zsoltisawesome   MOV Calinou POND
20:02 Calinou          better move me to PONY
20:02 zsoltisawesome   wait
20:02 zsoltisawesome   LOL
20:03 zsoltisawesome   that would be MOV POND Calinou
20:03 zsoltisawesome   UHG
20:03 zsoltisawesome   so confusing
20:03 Calinou          I've used gnash on speedtest.net once. pink, pink everywhere!
20:04 zsoltisawesome   what the heck is gnash
20:04 zsoltisawesome   oh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnash
20:07 zsoltisawesome   WHY DOES NOBODY HAVE FREAKING WIKIPEDIA PAGE!
20:08 Jordach          zsoltisawesome, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHUT_THE_FUCK_UP
20:08 zsoltisawesome   Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for SHUT THE FUCK UP in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings.
20:09 Calinou          search for Minetest! fun guaranteed, or your money back
20:09 zsoltisawesome   Article has no meaningful, substantive content
20:09 zsoltisawesome   wow
20:10 zsoltisawesome   So that's why *nervous laugh*
20:11 Calinou          wikipedia mentality *shrugging RD*
20:12 zsoltisawesome   indeed
20:12 kaeza            and yet nobody complains about stub pages :|
20:12 zsoltisawesome   i got temp banned my first day on wikipedia
20:12 zsoltisawesome   :|
20:12 zsoltisawesome   wow
20:13 zsoltisawesome   your page is nice and simple kaeza
20:13 kaeza            ?
20:14 zsoltisawesome   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaeza
20:14 zsoltisawesome   this is you, is it not?
20:14 Jordach          zsoltisawesome, not everyone here uses the same name elsewhere
20:14 zsoltisawesome   lawl
20:15 zsoltisawesome   makes sence
20:15 Jordach          sense*
20:15 zsoltisawesome   but who would make an account called that
20:15 * kaeza          .
20:16 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:16 zsoltisawesome   being you?
20:16 kaeza            could be, dunno
20:16 zsoltisawesome   my page is crowded with a bunch of userboxes
20:16 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:16 harrison         noone ever impersonates the harrison
20:16 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:17 zsoltisawesome   user exists, no user page
20:18 Calinou          tip of the day, use a fake name on wikipedia
20:18 Calinou          too bad I haven't done it...
20:18 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:18 kaeza            yeah, right... you haven't <.<
20:18 zsoltisawesome   what ever you do, dont look at my wikipedia page
20:22 * Calinou        looks at zsoltisawesome's contributions... *full of MLP stuff*
20:22 Calinou          kidding :p
20:22 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:22 zsoltisawesome   sadly, i can't have a MLP userbox
20:22 zsoltisawesome   darn copyrights
20:24 Calinou          even Minetest is copyrighted, zsoltisawesome
20:24 zsoltisawesome   :|
20:24 zsoltisawesome   you know what i mean
20:24 Calinou          you mean, restrictive licenses :P
20:24 Calinou          however, there is fair use
20:24 zsoltisawesome   darn right
20:25 zsoltisawesome   which Hasbro seems to ignore completly
20:25 zsoltisawesome   ...
20:28 Calinou          zsoltisawesome, actually they seem quite fine with it, I heard they explicitely allow fan art
20:28 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:28 Calinou          (and there is an huge amount of it)
20:28 zsoltisawesome   yes, there is that
20:28 zsoltisawesome   darn
20:28 zsoltisawesome   you made it so i have nothing to complain about other than my lack of sleep
20:29 zsoltisawesome   :)
20:29 Calinou          go sleep then :P
20:31 zsoltisawesome   :P
20:31 zsoltisawesome   can't, its freaking 1:30
20:31 Calinou          1:30 or 13:30?
20:31 Calinou          please use 24 hour format
20:31 Calinou          ok, 13:30
20:31 zsoltisawesome   13:00
20:31 Jordach          zsoltisawesome, http://i.imgur.com/dUvEgE7.png
20:32 Calinou          but don't complain about CTCPs then :P
20:32 zsoltisawesome   imgur is blocked...
20:32 Calinou          you're at school?
20:32 zsoltisawesome   no
20:32 Calinou          john_minetest, that's because they are hooves.
20:32 zsoltisawesome   my parents are over protective
20:32 Jordach          john_minetest, the fold up into the space of a normal fist (if i didn't add fingers)
20:32 Jordach          they*
20:33 ShadowNinja      Jordach: Those hands look huge.
20:33 zsoltisawesome   LOL
20:34 zsoltisawesome   that would make for a wicked facepalm
20:34 zsoltisawesome   XD
20:34 Calinou          facehoof
20:34 reactor          facefuck.com
20:34 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:35 reactor          Calinou: bronisms?
20:35 zsoltisawesome   faceorange
20:35 reactor          faceyuck
20:35 Calinou          avoid NSFW links in here, reactor
20:35 reactor          ...I didn't think that one exists.
20:36 reactor          Sorry.
20:36 Calinou          maybe it does
20:36 Jordach          ShadowNinja, john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/dvq0hE1.png
20:36 Calinou          I wouldn't go to it though
20:36 reactor          Well. I didn't say "http://" in front of it.
20:36 Jordach          the arms are two pixels shorter
20:36 reactor          So maybe that was a filename eh.
20:36 reactor          Who would.
20:37 reactor          john_minetest: stop pretending that 1) bronisms aren't bad; 2) you're not a brony. Kthxbye.
20:37 MinetestBot      GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Refine GUI. https://gi 2013-12-12T12:34:05-08:00 http://git.io/DCMy-g
20:37 reactor          Oh well. I gotta crash.
20:37 Calinou          john_minetest isn't really a brony, lik me
20:37 Calinou          like*
20:38 ShadowNinja      Jordach: Scale the size of the arm and hand a bit. And do you have a download available? :-)
20:38 Jordach          ShadowNinja, just replace the texture in both materials and the model is ready to go
20:38 Jordach          ShadowNinja, they seem big but are infact not that big
20:39 Jordach          when they're wrapped around an item / tool, they'll look normal
20:39 Calinou          same
20:39 * EvergreenTree  waves branch
20:40 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:40 * zsoltisawesome waves hoof
20:40 * Calinou        takes the branch
20:40 Calinou          zsoltisawesome, I was about to do that
20:41 * Calinou        brohooves zsoltisawesome
20:41 EvergreenTree    Ouch
20:41 EvergreenTree    Please don't do that again
20:41 * EvergreenTree  slaps Calinou
20:41 * zsoltisawesome brohooves Calinou
20:41 EvergreenTree    That ought to teach you to take a branch from me again
20:41 Jordach          perhaps Calinou could be branching out... ;3
20:41 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:42 Calinou          branching out with RD
20:42 * zsoltisawesome takes a chainsaw to EvergreenTree
20:42 * EvergreenTree  runs
20:42 * zsoltisawesome run after EvergreenTree
20:42 * EvergreenTree  throws a pinecone at zsoltisawesome
20:43 * EvergreenTree  teleports
20:43 * Jordach        grabs the technic:chainsaw and defends the tree
20:43 * zsoltisawesome throws his chainsaw at EvergreenTree
20:43 * Calinou        gets maptools:pick_admin and mines Jordach
20:44 Jordach          nope
20:44 EvergreenTree    zsoltisawesome, You're throwing it at air zsoltisawesome I teleported
20:44 * zsoltisawesome gets milk:bucket_milk and drinks it
20:44 * EvergreenTree  revokes zsoltisawesome all
20:45 Jordach          </3 sfan5
20:45 Jordach          you removed my quote
20:45 * zsoltisawesome says "EvergreenTree is being very rude!"
20:46 * Jordach        sets channel theme to Savant - Step up your game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1z9-5fzGgA
20:46 Calinou          <Calinou> ~quote Calinou
20:46 Calinou          <redroid> Calinou: <Calinou> shotgun? shitgun!
20:46 Jordach          Calinou, ~family Jordach
20:46 Calinou          Jordach, you're not in #redeclipse btw
20:46 Jordach          fuck
20:46 * zsoltisawesome laughs
20:47 Jordach          btw, here's how complicated my model is in the outliner: http://i.imgur.com/fQD7uAW.png
20:48 * zsoltisawesome starts to eat a leaf
20:48 Calinou          I'd bone that
20:48 Calinou          </modeling jokes>
20:48 zsoltisawesome   LOL
20:48 * EvergreenTree  slaps zsoltisawesome
20:48 * zsoltisawesome slaps EvergreenTree
20:49 * EvergreenTree  resets the channel tune to Savant - Snake Eyes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoChPrObrm8
20:49 Jordach          and here's gen 4 for comparison
20:49 Jordach          http://i.imgur.com/6npaPS0.png
20:49 * zsoltisawesome slaps EvergreenTree around a bit with a large trout
20:49 * EvergreenTree  slaps zsoltisawesome with a MinetestBot
20:49 * EvergreenTree  sets a kitten on zsoltisawesome's head
20:50 * zsoltisawesome eats the kitten
20:50 EvergreenTree    0_o
20:50 EvergreenTree    YOU CANNIBAL!
20:50 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:50 * EvergreenTree  kicks zsoltisawesome
20:50 zsoltisawesome   its not a human
20:50 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:51 * EvergreenTree  throws a ##minetestbot at zsoltisawesome
20:51 * zsoltisawesome breaks one of EvergreenTree's branches
20:51 EvergreenTree    OW
20:51 Jordach          HOLD ON
20:51 EvergreenTree    I'm going to end this once and for all
20:51 BlockMen         bye everyone
20:51 * zsoltisawesome blocks
20:51 EvergreenTree    zsoltisawesome.shutdown("banned")
20:51 Jordach          <Shao Kahn> ROUND ONE!
20:51 Jordach          <Shao Kahn> FIGHT!
20:52 * zsoltisawesome rejoins
20:52 EvergreenTree    zsoltisawesome.punch("Falcon")
20:52 like2omg         "[...] then I sprained my wrist doing a roundhouse." "Roundhouse is a type of kick."
20:53 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:53 like2omg         I was using a quote from Dorkly (YouTube)
20:53 zsoltisawesome   EvergreenTree.trim(Date.now())
20:53 * EvergreenTree  defenestrates zsoltisawesome
20:54 * EvergreenTree  falls over on top of zsoltisawesome
20:54 like2omg         like2omg.setFirewallState(True)
20:54 zsoltisawesome   lol
20:54 Jordach          \o/
20:54 EvergreenTree    ohsnap
20:54 EvergreenTree    fangit
20:54 Jordach          found out i do have chanserv access
20:54 EvergreenTree    *dangit
20:55 * zsoltisawesome starts to eat EvergreenTree
20:55 like2omg         wow Jordach. nice one
20:55 like2omg         NameError: fangit
20:55 EvergreenTree    EvergreenTree.regenerate("health" "all")
20:55 * Jordach        saved the op command as a text doc
20:55 EvergreenTree    EvergreenTree.grow("large")
20:56 Jordach          i don't just have to rely on MinetestBot as much
20:56 * EvergreenTree  falls over on top of zsoltisawesome
20:56 like2omg         what's the command to see if a server is up?
20:56 EvergreenTree    !up servername
20:56 MinetestBot      EvergreenTree: Invalid Address
20:56 Jordach          !up <ip> <port>
20:56 MinetestBot      Jordach: Invalid Address
20:56 EvergreenTree    like that
20:56 like2omg         thanks
20:56 Jordach          !up vanessae.mine.bz 30001
20:56 MinetestBot      vanessae.mine.bz:30001 is up (525ms)
20:56 like2omg         !up 75.131.40.131 30000
20:57 MinetestBot      75.131.40.131:30000 seems to be down
20:57 like2omg         aww... that means that...
20:57 Jordach          you got it
20:57 like2omg         !up 75.131.40.131 30001
20:57 MinetestBot      75.131.40.131:30001 seems to be down
20:57 like2omg         is also down -_-'
20:57 Jordach          like2omg, you may have to port forward
20:57 Jordach          it only checks working minetest servers
20:57 ShadowNinja      Jordach: I gave you it ~38 days ago.
20:57 Jordach          ShadowNinja, i was making sure i knew the command
20:58 Jordach          and your bot doesn't report opping via ChanServ
20:58 like2omg         it's not my server
20:58 ShadowNinja      Jordach: I disabled op reporting completely.
20:58 Jordach          oh
20:58 Jordach          you could have told me :P
20:59 like2omg         * Jordach got served a case of ShadowNinja sanity checks *
20:59 * Jordach        might make a Dungeon Master model at high def
21:00 Jordach          i've learned so much from youtube tutorials and other places
21:00 Miner_48er       ShadowNinja is sql rollback a conf option in 0.4.8 stable?
21:04 ShadowNinja      Miner_48er: No, it was added in 0.4.8-dev and doesn't have a setting.
21:11 Jordach          http://www.mediafire.com/download/w3p7bk0ljtmrrs9/TemplateMale.blend
21:11 MinetestBot      GIT: stujones11@server.fake commited to minetest/minetest: Make line_of_sight return blocking node position d9ef072305 2013-12-12T13:11:00-08:00 http://git.io/qnTuig
21:11 Jordach          prototype model availible for people to test
21:12 ShadowNinja      That was fast.
21:12 Jordach          ShadowNinja, i was finishing a few bits
21:12 Jordach          it just needs thumbs
21:13 Jordach          and a female alt
21:15 ShadowNinja      Hmmm, sfan hasn't upgraded to webhooks, so must have been chance.
21:28 MinetestBot      GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: More improvements to worldedit_gui https://gi 2013-12-12T13:28:00-08:00 http://git.io/h3k_fg
21:32 zsoltisawesome   NOOOOO
21:32 zsoltisawesome   I didn't get to cut off his branches
21:35 Calinou          https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=121808#p121808
21:35 Calinou          I challenge you not to read "promo" as "porno"
21:35 Calinou          (when you read quickly)
21:47 zsoltisawesome   lol
21:55 zsoltisawesome   link is outdated
22:00 Calinou          it works for me
22:00 Calinou          it is in Offtopic, you need to be logged in to see it
22:01 zsoltisawesome   oh
22:10 harrison         Every true thinker for himself is so far like a monarch; he is absolute, and recognises nobody above him. His judgments, like the decrees of a monarch, spring from his own sovereign power and proceed directly from himself. He takes as little notice of authority as a monarch does of a command; nothing is valid unless he has himself authorised it. On the other hand, those of vulgar minds, who are swayed by all kinds of current opinions,
22:10 harrison         authorities, and prejudices, are like the people which in silence obey the law and commands.
22:20 zsoltisawesome   umm
22:27 zsoltisawesome   i feel so out of place
22:27 zsoltisawesome   https://github.com/lordcirth/moontest/issues/1
22:32 zsoltisawesome   john_minetest: may you rest in peace
22:33 harrison         what happened?
22:33 harrison         did i miss something?
22:33 harrison         RIP as in glined from freenode?
22:34 harrison         he was mourning you
22:34 harrison         apparently you have returned from the grave
22:34 harrison         how was it?
22:34 zsoltisawesome   lol
22:35 zsoltisawesome   not exactly how i meant it but ya
22:35 zsoltisawesome   lol
22:36 zsoltisawesome   really
22:36 zsoltisawesome   is that what you are playing?
22:37 zsoltisawesome   harrison: :D you have a great sense of humour
22:39 zsoltisawesome   bas080: BOO
22:41 harrison         yes, it was one of the first things that i noticed about myself
22:41 zsoltisawesome   lol
22:42 harrison         it is a complicated thing to be: other people can't help being drawn to it, but also angered
22:42 zsoltisawesome   does anyone wanna test Moontest?
22:42 zsoltisawesome   ikr
22:42 harrison         after many years i learned to deliberately embrace their anger
22:43 harrison         even to evoke it deliberately
22:43 harrison         i am sorry if that upsets you
22:43 harrison         NOT
22:43 zsoltisawesome   lol
22:44 zsoltisawesome                   01001001111101101101001110010011
22:46 zsoltisawesome   010000100100100101001110010000010101001001011001
22:47 harrison         that second line expresses your remorse
22:47 zsoltisawesome   what?
22:47 harrison         morse remorse
22:48 harrison         dot dash dash dot == 0110 etc
22:48 zsoltisawesome   lol
22:48 zsoltisawesome   01010111 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01110100 01100001 01101100 01101011 01101001 01101110 01011100 00100111 0010000001100010011011110111010101110100001011000010000001010111011010010110110001101100011010010111001100100001
22:49 zsoltisawesome   = What you talkin' bout, Willis!
22:50 zsoltisawesome   tolA eiP ekiL I
22:50 harrison         lorde of cities is up to a disappointing 109 views http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9AB_IhOwKY
22:51 zsoltisawesome   .. ....  -----......----...... .---... . .......
22:51 zsoltisawesome   lol
22:51 harrison         and i tried to pander to the youth of america
22:51 harrison         i really tried
22:55 zsoltisawesome   im bored
22:56 zsoltisawesome   cisoun: May you rest in perfect peace
22:57 pitriss          any op there? ban zsoltisawesome would be awesome idea:D
22:58 zsoltisawesome   why?
22:58 zsoltisawesome   there is nobody to tlak to
22:59 zsoltisawesome   and nobody will help me with Moontest
22:59 pitriss          that is not reason to spam channel where is 100+ people.
22:59 ShadowNinja      zsoltisawesome: Please don't flood.
23:00 pitriss          Still no reason to spam here..
23:00 zsoltisawesome   ugh
23:01 zsoltisawesome   there is nobody interesting here
23:01 harrison         zsoltisawesome: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
23:02 ShadowNinja      harrison: http://start-irc-bullying.eu/start
23:02 zsoltisawesome   lol
23:02 ShadowNinja      :-D
23:02 zsoltisawesome   where did that come from
23:03 harrison         the dark seamy underbelly of irc culture is where
23:08 zsoltisawesome   thats prelol
23:13 zsoltisawesome   harrison: Are you a bot?
23:14 cisoun           zsoltisawesome: dafuq
23:14 zash             zsoltisawesome: Are /you/ a bot?
23:14 zsoltisawesome   nil
23:17 ShadowNinja      Aha, it is, and a Lua one!
23:18 zsoltisawesome   Lua Is A Great Language!
23:22 iqualfragile     is there some function to derigister a crafting recepy
23:22 VanessaE         iqualfragile: no
23:22 iqualfragile     VanessaE: why?
23:23 VanessaE         be...cause there....isn't?
23:23 ShadowNinja      iqualfragile: Because nobody coded it of course.
23:23 iqualfragile     ah, k so there is no real reason
23:26 iqualfragile     good
23:26 harrison         i am the first bot to have ever passed the rigorous double-reverse turing test
23:26 harrison         successfully posing as a human who is pretending to be a bot
23:35 harrison         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgdU9OaSMkw